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Vol. 31 No. 5 September-October, 1969
SECOND ~· NATIONAL ~ ONE AND TWO CYLINDER TOUR JUNE 4 - 5 -6 -7 1969 WICHITA ~~~~ KANSAS __I Horseless Carriage Club of America Founded in Los Angeles November 14, 1937 A nonprofit corporation founded by and for automotive antiquarians and dedicated to the preservation of motor vehicles of ancient age and historical value, their acces sories, archives and romantic lore.
OFFICERS Dr. E. C. Lawrence ...... ______President Roy Davis ...... Vice President Dave Goerlich ...... Secretary Edwin N. Saville ...... Treasurer Joe Straub ...... Board Chairman
DIRECTORS AND TERMS OF OFFICE
1967-69 1968-70 1969-71 Ralph Cherry Roy Davis Peter Bechtel Clarence Kay Louis Giacometti Frank Harris Dr. E. C. Lawrence David H. Goerlich Dr. Merle Ledford Herb Schoenfeld Sandy Grover Joe Morris Joe Straub Edwin N. Saville Les Thomas
COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN Activities...... Dr. Merle Ledford Regional Groups ...... Peter Bechtel Publications ...... Joe Straub Visit Budget...... Louis Giacometti Bylaws ...... Ra lph Cherry * * Safety ------...... Joe Morris Old Car Museum
HONORARY DIRECTORS Union City, Tennessee Lester H. Barnett Harry B. Johnson Lindley F. Bothwell Dr. Alfred S. Lewerenz Ernie Boyer W. Everett Miller Floyd Clymer John B. Ogden Sam DeBolt Herb Prentice :t»V<~··•c~··• ("'<~··•..-"'<~··• ....-··~<~···.,....~....:·•• ~ Warwick Eastwood Dr. Geo. E. Shafer l ... •'"••·;;~ ...... ~ ••. :-~ .... .;.~=-~'1;-o .... :.-~···- ~·~~"" .... , ~ John G. Gillespie Ken Sorensen . ~ HORSELESS CARRI AGE GAZETTES ~ :-7 $1.25 a copy X ~ (1954) Volume 16: #1, #3, #4, #5 & #6 ~\" '~'J (1955)Volume17:#1,#2,#3 MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION J r. (1956) Volume 18: #2, #3, #4 r" Active Members, Men, Women, Minors must own a Horseless Carriage of ~~ (1957) Volume 19: #3 ~ year 1915 or earli er; they hove a ll privil eges of the club. Annual dues, ¥\ (1959) Volume 21: #4 ~ $9.00 (Canada and foreign, $9.50 ) , $7.00 of which is for a one year ~~·,· (1960) Volume 22: #2, #3 ~~,•. subscription to the Horseless Carriage Gazette. (1961) Volume 23: #1 Associate Members, Men, Women, Minors hove a ll privil eges of the clu b ( 1962) Volume 24: #4 & #5 except holding a Notional office and voting. Ann ua l dues $7.00 (Canada v~· (1963) Volume 25: #2, #4, #5 & #6 • : and foreign, $7.50 ) whi ch includes a year Gazette subscription. • (1964) Volume 26: #1, #2, #3 & #5 ~t" Wives of Members may become either Active or Associate members, v, (1965) Volume 27: #1, #2, #3, #4 & #5 ' ~ corresponding to t~ u sband's membership. Only one copy of the (1966) Volume 28: #2, #3, #5 & #6 • 1 Gazette, the Roster and other mai li ngs wi ll be sent jointly to hu sband • (1967) Volume 29: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5 & #6 " and wife. Ann ua l dues, $2.00. However, fu ll membership is encouraged. ~ (1968) Volume 30: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5 & #6 1, Life Members ore Active or Associate Members for life upon payment v~· (1969) Volume 31: #1, #2, #3 & #4 X of $ 12,5•.00 dues. t Horseless Carriage Club of America (" Regional Group Members, who must be Notional Active or Associate members, pay additi onal dues as establi shed by the local clubs. tJ E o;:x~>~~>:.~:1 !.~:renee Ave~·~""'':.::.:.-~ •.. •.. ,.) Gazette Subscriptions, $7.00 per year. 3
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~------~~·~~------==----~ED ITOR W. Everett Miller Volume 31 No.5 FEATURE EDITOR Dick Philippi September-October 1969 RESEARCH HISTORIAN Dr. Alfred S. Lewerenz COVER PHOTOGRAPHER Mike Roberts TECHNICAL EDITOR Vaun Rodgers FASHION EDITOR Helen Frye REGIONAL NEWS EDITOR Sandy Grover a copy ARTISTS Ward Kimball, Hel•n Frye, Ben Sharpsteen, Ed Pranger $1.2S DISPLAY ADVERTISING MANAGER Robert Babcock
~ IN THIS ISSUE The Horse le ss Ca rriage Gaze tt e is ~ published bimonthl y by the Horse less 11~~(1 Carriage Clu b of America. In c .. 9031 E. Florence Aven ue. Down ey. Ca li· ~ National Comments - Edwin N. Savi ll e ...... 4 fornia 90240. Se con d cla ss po stage Coming Events ...... 4 paid at Downey. Cal ifornia. and at (I)' Panhard & Levassor ...... 5 additional mailing office. Sub sc rip Second Annual One & Two Cylinder Tour - Jane Cox ...... 6 tion : $7 .00 a year . ~ Pride & Joy ...... 12 Big Wheels Are People - Gordon Hoot on ...... 14 ~ Corpus Christi Texas Tour - Russe ll Edkins, Tour Chairman .... . 16 Grand Rapids WOODland Tour -· C. E. Bl ac k ...... 20 Articles appearing in this publication ~ express the individual opinions of the Pioneer Village ...... 25 writers and are not ne ce ssarily the (~), La Jolla Carnation Tour - Cille Lucas ...... 26 opinions of the Editors or the HCCA, Our Family Photo Album ...... 29 Written permission must be obtained from the HCCA Board of Directors for ~ Fashion Views - Helen Frye ...... 30 the reproduction of any material Asinine Alley - Wa rd Kinball ...... 34 appearing in the Horseless Carria ge ~ Letters To The Editors ...... 36 Gazette. Book Reviews ...... 37 ~ Obituaries ...... 38 - ~.·~.' Memory Museum ...... 41 m Regional Highlights - Sandy Grover ...... 42 Address all correspondence to ~.~·. Central Ca lifornia Sequoia National Park Tour -Aggie Young .. . 46 HORSELESS CARRIAGE m What Is It? - Dr. A lf red S. Lewerenz ...... 50 GAZETTE ~ Restoration Hints - Vaun Rodgers ...... 56 9031 E. Florence Avenue ~ Arrington Square Current Restorations - Cec il Frye ...... 57 Downey, California ~ Classified Advertising - Robert W. Babcock ...... 58
90240 ~------~~~------~~ ~ PHONE : (213) 862·6210 !I) ~ !1)€~~~------~~·~~------~~3.~ c~ A free Gazette will be sent to any potential HCCA member, along with an illustrated fact sheet pictur ~ o~!.-.. ,F;<~Ef: CC>:J.VII~G F:"'" F:~':rS Predictions abound for the next decade. History seems to depend on time intervals. Soon we will be asked to give out vital statistics to Uncle Sam for the next census. It will PLEASE MARK YOUR CALENDAR NOW SO YOU WILL relate in a way to each of us in our decisions in our Hob by, NOT MISS THE MEETINGS YOU WISH TO ATTEND. especially to the source of our future members. Where will they come from? Will they still be re-working and repairing OCTOBER 1969 all of the running stock you and I have now, or as we, one by 10-11-12!15th ANNUAL AUTUMN LEAF TOUR San Diego (California) Region, Horseless Carriage Club one, disappear to our final resting grounds, find their way 11-12/ 0NE AND TWO CYLINDER TOUR, La Jolla (Cal.) Region HCCA 17/MOVIE NIGHT into static collections or museums for the 21st century Manitoba Classic & Antique Auto Club, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada inhabitants to gaze at in wonderment? 17-18-19/TOUR San Diego (California) Region, Horseless Carriage Club 17-18-19/ANN. FALL MEET & FLEA MARKET, BABCOCK-WILCOX Recreation Park, West Point, Miss. Mid-America Old-Time Auto Assoc. The beginning of the push for the scuttling of the 17-18-19/STEAM AUTO MEET (LOCATION NOT ANNOUNCED) Western Region, Steam Automobile Club of America combustible engine as a power source for the future 18-19/ 0VERNIGHT FALL TOUR Canton (Ohio) Region, Horseless Carriage Club transportation vehicle is very much in current events articles. 18-19-20/0AKHURST MOUNTAINEER DAYS Central (California) Region, Horseless Carriage Club If such should evolve, would our pet antique cars be 19/MYSTERY TOUR restricted from all the by-ways? Southern California Region, Horseless Carriage Club 19/FOURTH ANNUAL SWAP MEET, AUBURN, CALIFORNIA, FAIR GROUNDS, Auburn A's of the Model A Ford Club of America 19/GENERAL MEETING There is no intention here to disturb your equilibrium. It Manitoba Classic & Antique Auto Club, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 24-25-26/0KLAHOMA CITY AUTUMN TOUR just brings out the fact that nothing remains status-quo. If Sooner Region, Horseless Carriage Club (Ted Huddleston) 25-26/AUTUMN LEAF TOUR TO WARNER HOT SPRINGS, (CALIF.) you, as an individual do not engage in thinking about such Newport Beach (California) Region, Horseless Carriage Club 26/BAROSSA VALLEY RALLY, SOUTH AUSTRALIA things, there is a perpetual entity chosen by you to do it on Veteran Car Club of Australia (Victoria) your behalf. It is YOUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS. NOVEMBER 1969 2/ LONDON TO BRIGHTON EMANCIPATION RUN (ENGLAND) Beside the duties of your Board Officers, of which there Veteran Car Club of Great Britain 2/(DATE CHANGE) WATSONVILLE SWAP MEET, SANTA CRUZ are 4, and the other 11 who are appointed to look after a FAIRGROUNDS, Cabrillo Region, Antique Automobile Club, Watsonville 9/SWAP MEET, WATSONVILLE, CALIFORNIA multitude of items concerning you, one of them keeps a Cabrillo Region, Antique Automobile Club of America 14/ANNUAL DINNER sharp eye out for any proposed legislation on State and Newport Beach (California) Region, Horseless Carriage Club 15-16/ ANNUAL RALLY TO WARBURTON, SOUTH AUSTRALIA National levels affecting the very future of your activity. Veteran Car Club of Australia (Victoria) 14-15-16/STEAM CAR MEET, RAMADA INN, DEERFIELD, FLA. Steam Automobile .Club of America Each of you, upon becoming a member receive a copy of 15/ANNUAL ELECTION OF OFFICERS Canton (Ohio) Region, Horseless Carriage Club the Club By-Laws. Over the years, since the founding in 16/ GENERAL MEETING Manitoba Classic & Antique Auto Club, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 1937, there have been some necessary and beneficial changes, 16/ WEST COAST REGION SHOW, B. CUNNINGHAM AUTO MU SEUM, COSTA MESA, CALIFORNIA and your last Roster of May, 1967, which at this moment is Contemporary Historical Vehicle Assoc. Johnson, 1319 Missouri, S.D., Cal. in the process of being updated for distribution in the near 21-22-23/21st ANNUAL NATIONAL AUTORAMA, CONNECTICUT STATE ARMORY, Hartford, Connecticut, The Autorama Corporation future, hopefully with much more detailed information, has the By-Laws printed for you. I admonish you to take a quiet DECEMBER 1969 6/ANNUAL CHRISTMAS PARTY respite away from everything else and read, and re-read what Canton (Ohio) Region, Horseless Carriage Club 12/ ANNUAL DINNER it says. To the very best of the abilities of those elected by Southern California Region, Horseless Carriage Club 13/ANNUAL CHRISTMAS PARTY you, this is the 'Bible' upon which all decisions are attempted Newport Beach (California) Region, Horseless Carriage Club 20/REGIONAL GROUP INSTALLATION DINNER to be made. Central California Region, Horseless Carriage Club of America JANUARY 1970 Custom has been, since 1961 when Sam DeBolt was 23-24/NATIONAL CONVENTION & ANTIQUE CAR EXHIBITION, your President, that the President delegate certain ones of his PASADENA, CALIFORNIA Horseless Carriage Club of America, Huntington-Sheraton Hotel choosing to write a letter to you under the above heading. Personally I believe they should be presented in such a FEBRUARY 1970 15/VETERAN HILL CLIMB DAY manner that you may have food for thought, that you may Veteran Car Club of Australia (Victoria) 20-21/ANNUAL MEETING, BELLEVUE-STRATFORD HOTEL, PHILA. have more appreciation and understanding, and that it might Antique Automobile Club of America inspire you to write a letter to the Board occasionally, either MARCH 1970 complimentary or otherwise. It is indeed invited and would 8/ANNUAL SWAP MEET help considerably in knowing if we are doing our job the way Central California Region, Horseless Carriage Club of America you would like to have it done. If I put a plug in for the APRIL 1970 4-to-18/AUSTRALIAN BICENTENARY INTERNATIONAL RALLY NATIONAL CONVENTION next Jan. 23-24, perhaps you (Clarence or Dorothy Kay) 553 Fir Lane, Los Altos, California 94022 could guess what one of my jobs is about. You won't want to JUNE 1970 miss it. 21/AROUND-THE-HOUSE RUN, NORTH OF THE CITY Veteran Car Club of Australia (Victoria) 7/SWAP MEET, BAYFAIR SHOPPING CENTER. SAN LEANDRO, CAL. Northern California Modei-T Ford Club JULY 1971 - Ed N. Saville NATIONAL TOUR, PORTLAND, OREGON, HORSELESS CARRIAGE National Treasurer CLUB OF AMERICA HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 J .Panhard et Levassor car with the sleeve valve Knight engine. S-S on the radiator emblem indicates "Sans Soupapes" (without valves: poppets, that is). It was M. Levassor who first used the Daimler ·engin e to propel a four wheel car, and he devised the sli ding gear transmission. This encouraged Gottlieb Daimler to use his own engines to construct automobiles. Otherwise, who knows, there maY never liove been, Mercedes automobiles! Walter McCarthy is the lucky owner. ·. - ·.C .· • .. - Ul 6 SECDDD ADDUAb DATIDD -g' Q) a: <.i > c .s0 c <1: > .0 ...0 0 ..c a. An interesting telephoto shot of the tour cars entering Lake Afton 1902 Curved Dash, one cylinder Oldsmobile; Dale King, 1910 Maxwell Park. The cars and riders are: Lester and Fern Andrews, 1911 Brush Modei-AA; Ross and Marge Erickson, 1910 Reo one cylinder; Model E-10; Charles and Dorothy lvey, 1910 Reo one cylinder; Howard and Margaret Reed, 1906 Buick Model-33 two cylinder Gilbert and Pearl Johnson, 1911 Brush Model-4; Dr. E. C. Bill roadster; Joe and Sue Morris, 1907 Maxwell roadster; Berlin and Lawrence, HCCA National President and Miss Virginia Babcock, Mildred Cox, 1908 Reo one cylinder. by Jane Cox Did you ever glance up and see a silent 2-seat buggy which all present quickly applied themselves to the business whizzing past you, with no horses, no reins, and only a kid at hand; first the judging of the beautiful little automobiles, holding onto a steering wheel (which is fastened to absolute and then a tour to the park at Bentley, Kansas, for a ly nothing), sitting on the front seat - driving the 'thing'? If bountiful picnic lunch. Although plans were made for a slow not, you didn't see Hayden Talliferro's newly restored Grout group and a faster group of cars to be led on the tours, and steam car in the National 1 and 2 Cylinder Horseless Carriage maps had been prepared for everyone, there were some strays Tour held in Wichita, Kansas, June 4 through 7 _The Wichita to be rounded up as the tour progressed. The total mileage Regional Group HCCA was most happy to host the second for Thursday was approximately 40 miles, and the accom annual National 1 and 2 Cylinder Tour, and the excitement panying sun and wind were enough to start some unusually began on Tuesday evening, June 3, when some six cars and brilliant sunburned noses. At every banquet, MC Vern their owners arrived at tour headquarters in the Diamond Thornton kept things moving at a fast pace ; and everyone Inn. When registrations were completed at 5:00 p.m. was most happy to hear Dr. E. C. Lawrence, National HCCA Wednesday, June 4, a total of 39 cars from 8 states, with a President from Saratoga, California, speak each evening, in head count of about 85 people plus children, were registered addition to the other entertainment provided. Dr. Lawrence and ready to go. Promptly at 7:00p.m., after a social hour, seemed quite impressed to find himself driven in from the all participants boarded buses for a ride to J oyland Amuse Airport in a fine 1916 Studebaker Touring Car owned by ment Park in southeast Wichita, for a fine picnic dinner and Wichitan Bud Cox. As a further enticement to return to an evening of entertainment in the facilities of the amuse Wichita some day, Bud had thoughtfully arranged for Dr. ment park, as guests of Herb and Jerry Ottaway_ Lawrence to drive his nicely restored 1903 Curved Dash Olds Thursday, June 5, brought a beautiful sunny day, during during the tour. Dr. Lawrence was vocal in his praise of the HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 7 All I &2 CYbiDDER TOUR Fording the creek to Lake Afton Park. The cars and riders are; 1910 Reo; Jerry and Joan Smith and family, 1908 Buick Modei-F Gilbert and Pearl Johnson, 1911 Brush; Charles and Dorothy lvey, two cylinder; Dr. E. C. "Bill" Lawrence, 1902 Oldsmobile. mechanical ability of the little 'bomb'. Saturday, June 7, dawned clea r and a little cooler than By the beginning of the second actual day of touring, the previous day, and everyone found the traveling much Friday, June 6, most of the people were getting acquainted more enjoyable; so that finally at day's end, Tour Chairman and thoroughly enjoying conversations with their fellow Richard Mann was able to surprise almost everyone with the tourers. A little midnight oil had been burned during fact that they had toured almost 80 miles that day. The tour Thursday night to repair Jerry Ottaway's Milwaukee Steamer included a stop in Rose Hill, Kansas, and a final picnic lunch and Jerry Smith's 2-cylinder Buick. Friday proved to be the in the park at Augusta, Kansas. Saturday night's banquet most trouble-provoking as well as the warmest day of the featured the farewell speeches of Wichita Regional Group tour. It was 93° with a strong wind, and everyone was President Berlin Cox, Tour Chairman Richard Mann , and of anxious to get started back from a tour to Lake Afton some National President Dr. E. C. Lawrence. MC Vern Thornton twenty miles southwest of the city where lunch had been again kept the pace fast and the conversation entertaining, as served. All of the cars took two trips around the lake, to take presentation of the trophies along with the usual gag trophies pictures, and also to give the tow trucks time to return to the was accomplished. Trophy winners were: Motel and unload the casualties, and get back to the lake to One Cylinder Gasoline Cars: follow the tour home. Bobby Babcock, who with his sister 1st Place - 1903 0 Ids driven by Dr. E. C. Lawrence of Saratoga, Virginia, had traveled all the way from Vietnam (via his California 2nd Place- 1907 Jewel driven by Bud Cox of Wi ch ita, Kansas home in Garden Grove, California) had the extreme misfor 3rd Pl ace- 1909 Brush driven by Bud Voth of Wichita, Kansas tune to have his 1909 Reo develop a broken crankshaft which also broke the block. Woefully we thought how far he Oldest Car: 1899 Locomobile Steamer driven by George Dossett of Mission, had come, and how happy he had been, only to be Kansas eliminated from the tour in such a manner; but both Bobby Most Original Unrestored Car: and Virginia proved to be great sports, and after seeing the 1906 Rambler driven by Richard Mann of Augusta, Kansas Reo safely aboard the tow truck, they obtained rides in other Hard Luck Trophy: cars, and proved to be excellent company. 1909 Reo driven by Bobby Babcock of Garden Grove, California I 1909 Reo one cylinder, Robert W. Babcock and sister, Virginia, George and Della Dossett: 1899 Locomobile Steamer. Garden Grove, Calif. 1910 Buick Modei-F two cylinder, J. R. (Bob) Cox, Wichita, Kansas. Connie and Jimmie Missimer: 1908 Renault Model AX. 1907 Jewel Modei-C: Bud and Ruth Ann Cox. 1908 Maxwell Modei-LD: Doc and Sharee Brandes. Three Buicks and a Maxwell at a pop stop. 1906 Buick Modei-G : Richard D. Johnson HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 9 Two Cylinder Gasoline Cars: Lauderrnilk. Vern and Eileen Thornton provided a parody of 1st Place - 1910 Buick driven by J. R. (Bob) Cox of Wichita, Kansas Bob Hope's theme song, which the Wichita people sang at the 2nd Place - 1910 Schacht driven by Alvin White of Grand Island, last banquet to their guests from outside Wichita - it best Nebraska 3rd Place - 1906 Buick driven by Richard D. Johnston of Bartlesville, expressed the feeling of the Wichita members, who can only Oklahoma now have the happiest memories of tllis National Tour. Longest Distance Traveled to Tour: Following are the words they sang: Les Andrews of Los Altos, California Steam Cars: 1st Place - 1900 Grout driven by Hayden Talliferro of San Diego, Thanks for the memory, Of sunny afternoons California Singing old-time tunes 2nd Place - 1900 Milwaukee driven by Jerry Ottaway of Wichita, And motor trips and burning lips Kansas From Kansas sun in June 3rd Place- Locomobile driven by Herb Ottaway of Wichita, Kansas Most Popular Car or Best in Show: How lovely it was. 1908 Renault driven by Jim Missimer of Santa Barbara, California Many's the time that we feasted Sunday morning's final event for the tour was a farewell And many's the good laugh we shared breakfast; which seemed to be greatly appreciated by the We made many minor repairs visitors and a fitting conclusion to Wichita's first attempt at We did have fun hosting a National Tour. Credit should be given to all who And no harm done. worked in advance and during the tour to make it a success - namely every Wichita Group member who owned or drove a So thanks for the memory 1 or 2 cylinder car in the events, and other members of the Of sunburns on your face Board of Directors. Dale Voth efficiently drove the truck Tours at a hectic pace, pulling the necessities for the Oasis Stops and cheerfully You might have had a headache dispensed the cold drinks each time. Tow trucks were driven But you took it all with grace - by Frank Chacon, Bob Thornton, Bert Dawson, and Warren So thank you so much! Herb Ottaway's steamers; 1901 Locomobile and 1900 Toledo. 1900 Milwaukee Steamer, Jerry Ottaway trouble shooting. 1909 Reo two cylinder touring: Richard and Anna Grogen. Pop stop in the shade: Brush, three Reos and an I.H.C. 10 Dr. Geor11e E. Shafer, S9n Bernardino, Calif. charter HCCA member and past president never misses a National ' 1907 Maxwell: Joe and Sue Morris. HCCA meet Ready for the day's run, Margaret Reed (?), Della Dossett, Ruth Cox, Diane Mann and Virginia Babcock. 1907 I. H. C. Autobuggy: Dr. Georger E. Shafer National Past President: 1906 Mason Runabout (Duesenberg design) : Merl and Dorothy Goodman. 1906 Buick. Bert and Bonnie Lehman. Bud and Ruth Ann Cox: 1907 Jewel. Robert W. Babcock, tire trouble on the Reo. 1901 Frazee Roadster: Harry E. Surd. Alvin and Jane White: 1910 Schacht Paul and Della Goheen: 1908 Reo Model-G. 1900 Grout Steam Surrey, Hayden Taliaferro and Warren Laudermilk, San Diego, Calif. 11 1901 Conrad Steamer: Vern and Eileen Thornton. Ross and Marge Erickson: 1910 Reo. Lester and Fern Andrews: 1911 Brush. --...._ Richard and Diane Mann: 1906 Rambler Type-Three. Dr. H . S. Bennie: 1904 Oldsmobile Modei-T. Harold and Rita Hanson: 1909 Maxwell ; - Dr. E. C. Lawrence, National HCCA President: 1903 Olds 1907 Reo Model-S: Wally and Vivian Johnson. Bud and Loretta Voth: 1909 Brush. 1910 Buick Modei-F : Merv and Marcia Criser. Berlin and Mildred Cox: 1908 Reo Model-G. 1906 Buick : Howard and Margaret Reed . 12 RECENT RESTORATIONS BY HCCA MEMBERS ....."' .,0 0. E .,"'X ., c :;:: (/) :E.... c(/) ~ ...... ,0 I ~ lL ·c; a: HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 13 ...... "' ~ "3 ~ ~ ~ ~ :ii £ 2 0 ~ -ro (.) 0 +-' ~ z0 .... 0 .... Ql > Ql E c: Ql "'5l ~ .n co0 .!a ~ Ql E -ro .<: (.) :.cen ....+-' 0 a; c: ~ "0 ;;;) ea. Ql .<: 1- 14 BID WBBBLS ARE PEIPlE By GORDON B. HOOTON Corona del Mar, CA. The stocky gent standing next to me in sport jacket and tively, I let him view snapshots of my old Flanders* hot rod, a robust tan, eyed the Shakespeare reel in the showcase. The but of that he seemed unappreciative. (Wasn't it Everitt, salesman handed it out. Stubby fingers twirled the spool, ears Metzgar and Flanders who promoted Studebaker Wagon into pricked for bearing noises. Here stood a mechanic. automotive prominence with their phrase "Horseless Harry C. Stutz. Carriage?) I found that out when after a few friendly exchanges Anyway, his 80 footer came out a beautiful and and purchase of the reel, he handed me his card and went - commodious floating menage - with nary a spark of speed. fishing, I suppose. Lotsa smoke, though, and so much noise you couldn't hear Knocking around where the Automotive Greats occur, his remarks across his goblet in the aft salon. Just as well, you're bound to bump into a few. In my recollections from they tell me. Seems as though the engine builders still up to 55 years back there persists a feeling of easy warmth in weren't up to such a colossal jump in planing-type tonnage. each such contact. Good Joe's all. Big names, yes. Big people, Nevertheless, the gist of my impressions regarding Automo too. Mind if I reminisce? tive Greats remains unshaken. Old Walter E. never blamed There were the Dodge brothers. Horace and John. Chris Smith. Nor even that impertinent little designer. Horace had a fast Chris Smith boat (before they· called 'em Another contact, though brief and unproductive, came ChrisCraft) and he'd gun it up across Luke St. Claire to when a tallish angular gent wanted to see some cruiser plans Algonac, where I worked for Chris, to palaver with the and gave his name as R. E. Olds. Well, our first gasoline management. He thought he'd like a faster package. buggy was a side-winder one lung Olds, patent leather dash, Although nothing ever came of it, because the one he had whip-socket and all that. Unimpressed with our designs, he was about as fast as could be safe in those days, everyone had politely heard through my impressions of his early achieve a rousing time and his boat went faster on the way home, ments and that was that. These people are just like everyone thanks to expert tuning in the Smith shops. else. Only more so. Courteous, friendly - but they gotta I think he really just enjoyed the ride and a yak with old conserve their time and energy for the important things in Christopher Columbus Smith, who was just as fine a Joe as life. Like fishing and boating. any of 'em. C. Harold Wills (Wills Sainte Claire) had a fast boat too, It was Dodge Brother John who gave us some exciting a sleek black 36 footer. I saw Mr. Wills only once, when he days. Not to be outdone, he wanted something fast, all right. was so busy pushing out and pulling in big gold-colored chips But BIG, too. Would you believe 100 ft.? Pretty big for us - at a Grosse Point gaming table that he couldn't have seen me but we designed one for him and brought it to his panelled if I'd resembled the Blue Goose from one of his fabulous office in the old Dodge plant at Hamtramck. Needles and cars. But I did cross Lake St. Claire in his speeder - against a pins. stiff October chop which sheeted spray over all 36 feet of us, Well, it didn't take. When he contemplated all those also sent me soaked and shivering back to Algonac on the staterooms and galleys and considered how many raucous trolley. Anyone who loved to play like Wills MUST A been a celebrants he'd hafta keep checking in and out, the project real Joe. went phfft. John was a good Joe, all right. But by no means In 1917 Chris Smith was already a tradition. Many a full dull. day he'd spend in his front office chair, chewing a black cigar The ship would have been a flop anyhow, so far as speed and never a piece of paper in his hand. Just thinkin'. He was concerned. They just didn't build enough engine then. knew more about what went on underneath a boat than most We found that out when Walter E. Flanders (the FinE M F) guys know about stepping aboard. He and his sons had walked in and made noises about an 80 footer. Flanders had painfully developed championship hydroplanes like Com jowls, a quiet joviality and he was a bachelor. He wanted modore Blackton's Baby Reliance's and Gar Wood's Miss speed too and he knew right where to buy the engines for it. Minneapolis and the Miss Detroits. No standardized line of We did him a design and by golly he signed. Apprecia- runabouts yet. With the nation entering War I, business slowed down. About that time Gar Wood, originator of the Wood Hydraulic Hoist for dump trucks, bought out the *See ·~n Ode to Flanders" by the same author in "The Smith enterprise and moved into the house next door. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE" July-August, 1969, He usta paint his W-H flag on the bow of all his race pages 50-51. boats. Of course that stood for Wood Hydraulic. The prestige HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 15 of unbeaten racers naturally boosted sales of the hoists and Tri-motor Ford airplane - other ventures too - but he also truck bodies - so what more logical than a hefty write-off for built a car. The Scarab. V-W call theirs a bug. Stout's was the advertising? Wood was always having ideas. He said, "When original and far buggier. It even sported a toilet. Before that ever I get an idea that looks just great I tell myself 'Now one he mocked up a unitized body-and-chassis job of that's no good' and then I go to work on the bugs." That plywood, with 'independent-four-wheel suspension and an little habit saved him a lotta false starts. Also gave him some air-cooled four which could be quickly uncoupled and slid most profitable ones. out through the front grill for servicing. Took the wraps off Gar and his gracious wife were friendly neighbors. One that one only for very special people, like Ford's Sorenson November night I kept polishing up the Flanders drawing, no and Eddie Rickenbacker. heat in the plant, ink freezing in the bottle- and they saw me The day Eddie came in we showed him blueprints of the at it. "Just lugged home some extra-good Chow Mein," they Batwing monoplane coupe' which Bert Acosta later flew with phoned. "Come over and help us out." The Woods helped one wheel missing. (Bert didn't know it.) Eddie OK'd the out a lotta folks. Batwing, also the plywood compact. Then he got hungry and The Wood formula for winning races centered on two it was my pleasure, as junior designer, to drive him and the main ingredients: superb jockeying (they called him The Boss down to the D.A.C. for lunch. In the old Nelson yet. Grey Fox), and lotsa Horses. When the Liberty Engines From such notables you'd expect weighty pronounce became available after the war, he bid in a flock of 'em and ments all the way downtown. All I got was a few rhymes, not installed 'em in cruisers by singles and pairs, then in his Miss so printable, which each gent repeated and polished to a America by fours, you bet. It didn't bother him that the nicety until all were well memorized. I've often wondered British challengers, who couldn't compete with such lavish whether any of 'em came back to assuage those tormentous power,. gazed down their sporting noses at the practice. If days for Eddie on his life-raft. they'd installed four, he'd have gone for eight. Bill Stout designed the first all-metal shipboard airplane I never knew a greater guy than Garfield A. Wood. for the Navy. Also one of the first streamlined high-speed rail Among other contacts with the auto crowd, I recall trains. And, I believe, the first expandable trailer home. He pleasantly a day's work for E. A. Nelson, designer of the was editor, preacher, artist. Something else he accomplished: rugged Hupp 32 and papa of his own too-advanced Nelson took me to lunch one day and when I ordered spinach he Four. Fresh from the service and attracted by his car, I looked sorta sidewise and cracked "I've stepped in it but I applied at the little Detroit plant and became his draftsman. never ate any." He helped me kick the spinach habit. It took me most of the day to get the hang of that new At least it all re-inforces my point: with good solid guys rear-end transmission he'd sketched up, so he finally told me, populating the top, U.S. industry ain't agonna de-humanize "Don't you try to do the thinkin'. I've done that. Just you us yet awhile. draw it."- Well, after flying the old Jennies an indoor job felt The image of Eddie recalls earlier days, 1914, when the sorta dismal so I departed for livelier fields. Grand Prix came to Santa Monica. All the Greats. Barney But I did buy one of his cars, the fore-runner of much Oldfield, Bob Berman, Teddy Tetzlaff, Ralph de Palma. that became industry standard. Overhead cams, force-feed Fiats, Sunbeams, Mercedes, Isotta Fraschini. An assemblage lubrication, counterbalanced crankshaft, double-drop frame - to remember. The Sunbeam sounded and ran like a well and many other features so far ahead of his time that Mr. honed product. All the rest as though they'd just begun to Nelson inevitably was doomed to fold. Don't they say "A work on 'em. prophet is without profit," or some such? His rakish little Bob Berman, who'd tuned his Blitzen Benz to cop the gem never did get that new rear end. And did I find out we world speed title from Oldfield, hung around Long Beach, needed it!! Cal., for awhile. He'd approach his downtown garage as if Mr. Nelson too was friendly and kind. He'd have intending to zoom right past it, then clamp his rear wheels coached me along, mebbe someday hazarded a Hootmobile and lay the tail of that racer right into the entrance and back had I played ball. it on into his stall. Rain or shine; hard on tires, but never It was in the twenties that Packard packed prestige. nicked a wheel. I got so I could do it with the old Flanders. Merlin 'Bud' Cudlip started there as Assistant Personnel But the day it rained I nicked. Manager, displayed the talent to advance to Vice President, Well, that about cleans my slate on Automotive Greats. Assistant to President Macauley. An old friend, he rolled out Unless by stretching a point I could crowd in outboard No. I Packard Straight Eight and let me parade it around the motors. There was Lew Johnson, who fished me out of a block before it was public news. One day on a putting green I chilly Lake Michigan when I got as far as his Waukegan in the watched him hunched over the little white pill giving it the Milwaukee-Chicago Marathon. Darn white of him, con same all-out concentration he'd assign to affairs of corporate sidering I was driving an Evinrude. Didn't even bug me about finance. "Packard's next president," flashed through my the name 'Safety Plane' in ten inch letters on my capsized mind. hydro. But that didn't happen. I think it was when they And that recalls Ralph Evinrude, who I assisted in brought down engineers from Pontiac to 'cost down' their dragging a swimless driver from a frigid Milwaukee River product that Mr. Cudlip found attraction at McClouth Steel, where they'd been testing one of my race-boats in a where he became their president and introduced the oxygen snowstorm. I guess you'd call those guys Automotive. furnace to American industry. Bud qualified as a Great. He Whatever motes on its own qualifies, doesn't it? These people never lost the personal touch. did. And Ralph had me out to Papa Ole's for dinner that Tired of history? You wouldn't quit on William B. Stout night- so he too was a Great Joe. and Eddie Rickenbacker? Stout became famous for his . THEY ALL WERE. 16 16th T~xas Tour l:ondu[t~d By Russell Edkins, Tour Chairman The 16th Texas Tour at Corpus Christi is over and no 2nd - 1925 Willys-Knight Touring - Cecil Martin, Corpus one came up with ulcers or flipped his lid. Registration was Christi, Texas 3rd- 1928 Chevrolet Cabriolet - James Miller, Houston, Texas confusing as always. The total was 124 cars, 346 people and, VII. 6 or more Cylinders- 1925 to 1931 as W. E. Webb, our regional editor noted, a few dogs but no 1st - 1925 Buick Sedan - Ed Goetz, Victoria, Texas cats. Headquarters was at the Downtowner Motor Inn 2nd - 1929 Chevrolet Roadster- 0. H. Clinch, Ft. Worth, Texas overlooking Corpus Christi Bay. They furnished registration 3rd - 1927 Packard Convertable Coupe - Joe Messins, Houston, Texas space in the lobby and a room for our convenienc~ . Judging VIII . 6 or more Cylinders - 1932 to 1942 began early Friday morning. This was preceded by some all 1st - 1936 Ford Phaeton- Jay B. Massey, Dallas, Texas 2nd night preparation by several owners. ·1941 Buick Coupe - Allen Glenney, Grand Prairie, Texas Parade line-up started to form on Shoreline Drive about 3rd - 1934 Pontiac- Karl Binner, West, Texas 10:00 a.m. creating a traffic hazard due to surprise reaction IX. Classics & Foreign up to 1942 1st - 1931 Packard Coupe- Barney Calvert, Pasadena, Texas of passers-by. Our previously arranged police escort" got 2nd- 1931 Cadillac V-16 Coupe- Jim Ellis, Pasadena, Texas things under control and the tour got under way at about 3rd - 1929 Packard Roadster - Harry Hughes, Houston, Texas 10:30. We paraded through the downtown area and then up X. Special Interest- All years over the harbor bridge and across the causeway between 1st- 1931 Ford Coupe- Bill Belew, Dallas, Texas Corpus Christi Bay and Nueces Bay. We kept to the coast 2nd - 1934 Ford Sedan- Bruce Smith, Dallas, Texas 3rd - 1915 Ford Speedster - R. C. Richards, Rockdale, Texas passing through the communities of Portland and Ingleside. X I. Brass T Fords - 1909 to 1916 We stopped for a coffee break in Aransas Pass where we were 1st- 1910 Ford Touring- Bill Barber, Okla. City, Okla. parked double-rowed in the center of the street. We created 2nd - 1914 Ford Touring- Les Bryant, Baytown, Texas quite a stir for nothing like this had been seen here since our 3rd - 1912 Ford Touring- Carlton Walling, Houston, Texas XII. Steel T Fords - 1917 to 1927 cars were new. Our destination and lunch was Fulton Beach, 1st- 1924 Ford Roadster- Roger Spillars, Austin, Texas a coastal community just north of Rockport. 2nd - Ford Touring -John Copes, Baton Rouge, La. Mechanical problems were few and of minor nature. 3rd- 1927 Ford Coupe- Steve Hawkins, Dallas, Texas Everyone starting was able to complete the tour. The round XIII. Commercial Vehicles- All years trip was an even 100 miles. Free time was planned from tour 1st - 1920 Ford Express Wagon - W. C. Whiteman, Jr., return until 8:00 p.m. dinner and style show. The show was Galveston, Texas 2nd - 1929 Ford Station Wagon- Bill Wahlbert, Houston, Texas impressive and well-planned. The seafood dinner went well 3rd - 1929 Ford Pickup- Robert York, Dallas, Texas and was plentiful. XIV. Model A Fords Open- 1928 to 1929 Saturday broke clear and hot. The 9:00 a.m. driving 1st- 1929 Ford Phaeton- Jim Davie, Dallas, Texas events got off to a slow start but almost everyone partici 2nd- 1929 Ford Phaeton- Lester Richards, Groves, Texas pated and we had a huge spectator crowd. The Parkdale Plaza 3rd - 1928 Ford Touring - Jake Westmoreland, San Antonio, Texas Shopping Center furnished a large section of their huge XV. Model A Fords Closed - 1928 to 1929 parking lot for these events. At noon we had hot fried 1st- 1929 Ford Sedan- Lester Richards, Grove, Texas chicken dinner in one of the city parks and then free time 2nd - 1929 Ford Sedan - C. P. Smith, Dallas, Texas until the awards banquet Saturday night. 3rd- 1928 Ford Coupe - J.P. Allison, Corpus Christi, Texas The following awards in the seventeen classes and special XVI. Model A Fords Open- 1930 to 1931 1st - 1931 Ford Roadster- Ed Heath, Corpus Christi, Texas awards were made: 2nd 1931 Ford Roadster - Terry Williams, Olney, Texas 3rd - 1930 Ford Roadster - Donald Bragg, San Antonio, Texas CLASSES : XVII. Model A Fords Closed- 1930 to 1931 I. All Years - 1 & 2 Cylinders 1st - 1930 Ford 2-door Sedan - Joe Distefans, Port Arthur, No entries Texas II. 4 or more Cylinders, gas I ights - 1900 to 1915 2nd - 1930 Ford Coupe- Hubert Linenberger, Bastrop, Texas 1st- 1912 Chalmers Touring- Jack Zimmerman, San Antonio, 3rd - 1930 Ford 4-door Sedan -Tommy Moore, Austin, Texas Tex. 2nd - 1910 Maxwell Speedster- Bobby Warren, Houston, Texas 16th TEXAS TOUR- SPECIAL AWARDS Ill. 4 or more Cylinders, electric lights -1900 to 1915 1st - 1915 Packard Touring - Liston Zander, San Antonio, National H.C.C.A. Awards: Texas Best Pre-1915 IV. 4 Cylinders, 1916 to 1924 1912 Chalmers - Jack Zemmerman, San Antonio, Texas 1st - 1923 Star Touring- Casey Slocomb, Houston, Texas Best Post-1915 2nd - 1917 Maxwell Touring - Maury Apfel, San Antonio, 1924 Ford Roadster - Roger Spillars, Austin, Texas Texas Liston Zander Award: V. 6 or More Cylinders -1916 to 1924 Most Popular Car on Tour 1st- 1924 Packard - Tom Lyte, Garland, Texas 1931 Cadillac V-16 Coupe - Jim Ellis, Pasadena, Texas 2nd -1916Studebaker - Ike Perry, Waco, Texas Walker Edwards Commercial Vehicle Award: VI. 4 Cylinders - T925 to 1942 1920 Ford Express Wagon - W. C. Whiteman, Jr., Galveston, 1st- 1928 Chevrolet Sedan - Russell Edkins, Alice, Texas Texas HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 17 by [orpus [hristi Jun~ 12-15 Photos By Russel l Edkins 1925 Buick 1924 Packard 1931 Cadillac V-16 1915 Packard 1910 Ford 1912 Chalmers 18 1931 Packard 1929 Ford Sedan 1923 Star 1928 Chevrolet 1931 Ford Roadster 1924 Ford Roadster 1931 Ford Coupe 1929 Ford Touring HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/ September-October 1969 19 The UNIVERSAL TIRE COMPANY Manufacturers and Distributors of Antique and Classic Tires BRASS RUBBER EXCISE RIM ACTUAL WHITE EXCISE STEM SIZE TYPE BLACK STEM TAX SIZE · PLIES WALL TAX TUBES TUBES ':' 28x3 22" 4 CL $41.00 $48.00 $1.18 $5.50 $8.50 $.18 ':' 30x3- l/2 23" 4 CL 43.00 51.50 1.40 5.50 8.50 .26 31x4 23" 4 ss 48.00 57 .50 2.00 5.50 8.50 .30 33x5(600x23) 23" 4 ss 52.50 63.00 2.60 9.00 12.00 .44 ':' 30x3 23" 4 CL 41.00 48.50 1.20 7.50 10.50 .22 32x4 24" 4 ss 45.00 56.00 1.90 5.50 8.50 .30 33x4-1!2 24" 4 ss 52. 00 61.00 2.00 7.00 10.00 .44 32x3 -l/2/33x4 25" 4 ss 46.00 57 .00 2.00 5.50 8.50 .30 32x3-l/2/33x4 25" 4 CL 57 .00 69 .00 1.80 5.50 8.50 .30 34x4·112 25" 4 ss 52 .00 62.50 2.60 7.00 10.00 .43 35x5 25" 4 ss 60.50 69 .50 3.50 9.00 12.00 .44 34x4 26" 4 ss 47 .00 58.00 2.35 5.50 8.50 .30 35x4-l/2 26" 4 CL 62.00 73.00 2.60 10.00 13.00 .43 36x5 26" 4 ss 70.00 81.00 4.20 10.00 13.00 .49 36x4·112 27" 4 ss 59 .50 68.50 2.90 10.00 13.00 .49 36x4·1 12 27" 4 CL 73.00 93 .50 2.80 10.00 13.00 .49 37x5 27" 4 ss 71.50 84.00 3.90 10.00 13.00 .49 36x4 28" 4 ss 59 .00 69 .00 2.00 10.00 13.00 .43 36x4 28" 4 CL 75.00 87 .00 1.90 10.00 13.00 .43 37x4·112 28" 4 ss 71 .50 82.00 3.10 10.00 13.00 .49 36x3-1 /2 /37x4 29" 4 CL 99.00 107.00 1.90 10.00 13.00 .49 41x4-1 /2 32" 4 ss 125.00 145.00 3.30 43x5 33" 4 ss 650x16 4 33.50 43 .50 2.70 5.50 8.50 .26 7001750x17 4 60.00 65.00 4.00 6.50 9.50 .41 700x18 4 62.00 68.00 4.30 8.00 11.00 .44 475x19 4 20.00 30.00 1.60 6.00 9.00 .25 700x19 4 57.50 68.00 3.50 7.00 10.00 .44 450 / 475x20 4 23.00 32.00 2.20 6.00 9.00 .24 440x21 4 20.00 30.00 1.60 6.00 9.00 .24 600x21 4 50.50 61.50 2.80 8.00 11.00 .32 700x21 4 69 .00 78.00 4.30 9.00 12.00 .47 600x22 4 51.00 62 .00 4.25 10.00 13.00 .32 AIRCRAFT TIRES-(Smooth Tread) 26x4 18" 4 CL 56.00 62 .00 1.30 7.00 10.00 .47 30x5 20" 4 ss 64.00 75.00 2.00 7.00 10.00 .24 ':":' SINGLE TUBE TIRES-(W ithout Lugs) 75.00 90.00 .85 26x2·112 21" 4 THIS PRICE LIST 28x 2· 112 23" 4 80.00 95.00 .95 32x3 26" 4 95.00 110.00 1.20 EFFECTIVE APRIL 1, 19"69 36x3 30" 4 115.00 130.00 1.30 ':' Availab le in Black or all White smooth tread . 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Black of Grand Rapids stands proudly by his handsome excellent 1930 Model A Ford Phaeton, awarded to John Veltkamp of 1933 Packard 8 sport coupe which was awarded a trophy for the car Cedar Springs, Michigan. with the most interesting history. ::r: 0 ~ ~r-. V)~ Q ~ ~ ~ Cl ~ Cl ::to. ...,~ ~ ---V) ~ ~ <:::t ~ ";" ...,0 c <:::t ~.., ..._ '0o '0 23 assembled at Old Kent Bank downtown Grand Rapids where included Larry Baum, Joe Niewiek, C. E. Black, Ralph the tour group, guests and public witnessed the start of the Grooters, Steve Joblonicky, Bill Colley, Larry Kaiser, tour. From 9:00 to 9:30 a.m., WOOD Radio and TV put on Gerhard Ritsema, Doyle Stratton, Paul Jones and Carl a simulcast broadcast, featuring introductions and question Sellner. Cars were shown taking off on the tour and parading ing of some 11 men who have driven on all 15 tours. These through downtown Grand Rapids. Most unusual car on the tout was this interesting 1915 White touring-brougham, owned by Joe Niewiek of Grand Rapids. 2nd RUNNER UP award was given to James Kaboos of Jenison, Michigan, and his fine 1911 Model T Ford torpedo roadster. 24 Recognition was given to the costume category on the annual WOODland Tour with the winner shown above. Not necessarily in the order shown, were the following awards: Original through 1910: Jackie Niewiek; Original 1911 through 1920: Ellen Lehnert; Original 1921 through ?: Christine Epley; Homemade: Betty Thomas; Family: Ronald McDonald Family; Couple Eugene and Henrietta Clark; Children through 9: Gail Reenders; and 10 to 16: Angela Clark. The caravan headed towards Hastings, via U.S. Highway 37, where a coffee break was scheduled, then on to Gull Lake for lunch. Costume judging took place during the lunch period, as well as car judging. The tour continued on to Battle Creek, the overnight destination, where local police escorted the caravan through town for a parade. The group was housed at the Holiday Inn and Howard Johnson motels. Dinner was served at Lakeview High School, followed by some good speakers and awarding of pocket watches to the This nicely restored 1915 Model T Ford depot hack, owned by Bill Proos of Wyoming, Michigan was awarded the car with the most aforenamed 11 drivers who have completed the entire 15 appeal. tours, awards presented to costume winners, then a drive back to the Holiday Inn for an evening of dancing and Route of the 15th Annual entertainment of pantomime put on by the various members WOOD Antique Auto Tour of the group. On Sunday morning it was raining hard. After a good KENTBANK June 7-8 1969 _,_,.,..~-S~ , breakfast the group assembled and took off in the rain for Grand Rapids, leaving at 8:00 a.m., stopping at Middleville for a well deserved coffee break, and arrived back at Old Kent Bank by noon, by which time the rain had stopped. A hearty lunch of 'Kentucky Colonel' fried chicken was enjoyed by all, after which the award winning cars and drivers and those winning costume awards were assembled on the Radio and TV show from 1:30 to 2:00p.m. A special category award was made to Larry Baum of Hastings, Mich., for his having completed all 15 tours in his 1914 Apperson Jackrabbit Speedster. There was no question that this was the best of the 15 tours. The group had its share of flat tires, burned out clutches, but plans are already afoot to plan the 16th annual TOUR DIRECTORS tour. ••• ANDY AMYX, TOUR MARSHAL WOOD & WOOD-TV IIU ICHIOIDIR JACK MMKWAID GAZETTE MIKI LAIIAU MARY CHAUV IN IILL KNOWUI JOHN COO"l DICK CHIYIRTON back issues GRAND RAPIDS REGIONAL GROUP HORSELESS CARRIAGE CLUB Wll MV.ICK lAlPH L, 01:001111 C. I. ILACK VIC JOHNSON IONNII GROOTIU IILI. PROOI OIIALD UHNilT BATTLE CREEK $1.25 a copy INN HOWARD JOHNSON HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 25 negative. PR10R TO 190 0, STEAM, ElECTRIC AND AIR·COOLED CARS OUT SOLD UQUID·COOU: D AUTOS, BUT TIME PROVID THEM LESS PRACTICAL. In January, 1896, there were few gasoline buggies T J-1 1;5~ WI;RE TJ..IE LEADERS in the United States. The second Duryea Motor Wa gon, built in 1894, the Mueller-Benz of 1895, the De LaVergne-Hunting Trap, the Macy-Benz, the Morris & Salom Electrobat, and the Sturges Electric com peted in America's first automobile race, held Thanksgiving Day 1895, from Chicago to Evanston and return (52 miles). The winner was J . Frank Duryea at a little over 7 miles per hour. A contest for the selection of a suitable name for self propelled vehicles was initiated to generate publi city for the first American horseless carriage race by H. H. Kohlsaat, owner of the then Chicago Times Herald. A mundane sum of $500 generated thousands of THREE MOTIVE POWERS entries. After much judging and publicity three peo Wil l the cycle complete itself? The Air C ooled, Electric ple divided this sum for their entree: "Motocycle". and Steam ca rs we re the leade rs in the 1900's but gradu Needless to say, this name was unsuccesful and died a lly disappeared as the gasolin e e ngine took the lead. the death it deserved. However, the new name did Now, it seems tha t th e leade rship is being cha ll enged by give birth to a publication called, "The Motocycle". successors of the three cars pictured above. This too, gasped its last breath shortly thereafter. Many names took wing among the circle of friends of the early inventors. The list, a copywriters dream, HAROLD WARP PIONEER VILLAGE included as many names as there were invention. What's in a name? Recently we have seen a syn Among these were: Autobat, Autocar, Autogen, Auto drome of name changes that has affected the Amer motor, Autovic, Motor Wagon, Buckmbile, Gas ican public's buying habits, and has involved the mobile, Ottomobile, Pneumobile, Buggyaut, Petrocar, recognition of companies and products that were and Trundler. household words for generations. For example, Duryea, who formed the first Amer "Is this odd? Not really", explains Harold Warp, ican business developed expressly for building and a Chicago plastics manufacturer who is an authority selling "petro-engined" cars in 1895, called his inven of Early Americana including the horseless carriage, tion the Motor Wagon, while Henry Ford, who intro having some three hundred on display at the Pioneer duced his inspiration a year later christened it the Village he founded 15 years ago in south central Quadricycle. Nebraska. "How did the word Automobile evolved?", asks Most of us own automobiles. Yet not many of us Harold Warp. ''The history and origin is vague on know the name changes that evolved with the new this point, research has not turned up any knowl motor driven vehicle that attracted the attention of edgeable facts that provided a basis for even an edu the populace of the 1890's and affected the future cated guess. However, it may be safe to say that the generations of the entire world. term Automobile became a generic one by popular No one seemed to know what to name it- then. acclaim thru the years. By odd coincidence, Augustus To illustrate the point, many octogenarians who Otto, who invented the internal combustion engine are alive today can recall the "eighties" when talk in 1876, had a similar name. of "horseless carriages" parallel our moon landings Usage of the word itself predates most of the of today. Predicated on the future, it postulates many horseless carriages that were evented. Dutton, in his "if's" for most of the citizenry. book Antique Automobile, features a French adver Among these was Hattie Greibenow, then a tisement that invited visitors to a Parisian show to bouncy teen-ager (now mother-in-law of Harold come and see the "exposition de Locomotion Auto Warp) who even taxing her imagination could not mobile Paris, 1895". envision a carriage coming down the street without So it seems that a descriptive adjective became the the customary horse pulling it. name of man's singularly great contribution to the Yet in 1895, when she viewed her first horseless history of man's progress. carriage in Chicago, as most onlookers, she was ap "Another question is", states Harold Warp, "that palled at it appearance without "old Dobbin" out although man speeds along at 70 mph or more today, in front. when he comes to heavy populated areas, what hap The term "horseless carriage", was fairly popular pens? More than three score years have passed and but even back then the people responsible for this the average speed of the automobile on New York important new invention realized that it needed streets is a little more than 11 mph. When compared something more positive. After all, the adjective to the 5 mph speed in 1895, one wonders about "horseless" was more a diatribe and was really progress .. ." 26 By Cille Lucas Photos by E. H. Taliaferro, E. R. Bourne, and John Daley. Four exciting days including three days of delightful The gentlemen looked their finest, but the ladies stole touring were provided by the La Jolla Regional Group for the show. There was, that third day of our tour, the most their third annual Carnation tour. Registration all day beautiful collection of ball gowns ever seen under one roof. Monday, June 23rd, listed 107 cars and 287 people. That The weather took a turn for the better and we toured evening after the get-acquainted dinner, the group took an San Diego's North County in Sunshine, the fourth day. Our hour tour of Mission Bay aboard the Bahia Belle. first stop was at John and Helen Porter's Poway Village for a The next morning, the first tour day, we left the coffee break, then on through Escondido, Vista and San Luis Catamaran Hotel driving south to the International Border Rey Mission. Lunch was served in an old sea side landmark, where we were met by the Mayor of Tijuana, Mexico and the Twin Inns in Carlsbad. welcomed to tour to Rosarita Beach. Now we were ready for the big test, the- Torrey Pines Music, dancing and a well prepared lunch made us forget Hill Climb! This was set up to time each car electronically. that it had been raining most of the morning. When we To keep emphasizing that the La Jolla Group does everything returned to Tijuana, we were met by the local representatives perfectly would begin to bring about some raised eyebrows of the tourist department who provided us with a Mexican and the Hill Climb is where we learned they are liurnan too. Fiesta band. Everyone managed to get back to the Catamaran The electronic system and walkie-talkie got fouled up with Hotel in time to board buses to the San Diego Zoo. police calls, airline pilot instructions, ship to shore communi We took a "Sky-Fari" trip and guided bus tour through cations and local Ham operators. We will never know who one of the world's largest and most fascinating zoos. won the hill climb. Line up over 100 antique cars, head down the road, and All was put right again at the Awards Banquet. The La even if the military is always ready for an invasion, we must Jolla Group introduced an innovation this last night by have looked like something out of Orsen Wells when we eliminating the best dressed award for the ladies and arrived at Miramar Air Station on the next day. The Navy gentl~men. The Carr~ation tour has always been in favor of received us with applause all along the route and the contrast family participation and for this reason each of the 36 to modern jet fighters was quite graphic. children on the tour was presented with an impressive From there, the tour led to Del Mar Fair Grounds where trophy. The balance of the trophies were awarded as follows: we led a parade into the Exposition. While some of us visited the various exhibits and others watched· a grand stage show, a BEST CAR THROUGH 1909 few of us prepared for the challenge races on Del Mar's Bob Robinson- 1907 Stevens Duryea - 1st Ed Saville - 1909 Stoddard Dayton- 2nd famous dirt track. Bill Borba- 1909 Packard - 3rd Results of the Races: BEST CAR 1910 THROUGH 1912 RACE No. 1 One Cylinder cars Leo Plamondeon - 1910 Stevens Duryea - 1st E. R. Bourne - 1902 Pope Hartford Bob Wiedenmayer- 1911 Chalmers- 2nd John Carra - 1910 Buick - 3rd RACE No. 2 Steam Cars Dick Philippi - 1910 Stanley Steamer - Winner BEST CAR 1913THROUGH 1915 Hayden Taliaferro -Second Neil La Rosa - 1914 Overland - 1st RACE No. 3 Two Cylinder Clarence Scheidle - 1913 Cadillac - 2nd Howard Ashead - 1911 Overland - Winner Henry Rootlieb- 1914 Reo - 3rd Mike Woods - 1910 Buick - Second CAR DRIVEN LONGEST DISTANCE RACE No.4 Four Cylinder Cars Roland Zillmer - 1911 Hudson Howard McJilton - 1914 Ford- Winner Howard Reed -1912 Buick -Second CAR COMING LONGEST DISTANCE John Carroll - 1915 - Ford -Third Duplicate Award- Both from Santa Rosa Orin Campion- 1909 Cadillac RACE No. 5 Four Cylinder Cars John Esposti - 1915 Ford John Carra- 1910 Buick - Winner Bob Hopkins - 1914 Mitchell - Second OLDEST CAR ON TOUR Jim Guinn- 1915 Dodge - Third Howard Ashead- 1905 Buick RACE No.6 Four Cylinder Cars Bob Hopkins - 1914 Mitchell - Winner MOST DESIRABLE CAR Wayne Jessee - 1909 Corbin - Second Leo Plamondon - 1910 Stevens Duryea RACE No.7 Six Cylinder Class MOST TROUBLE ON TOUR Dick Adams - 1908 Rolls Don Bernard - 1913 Locomobile Free For All SPEC IAL AWARD Gerry Dishong- 1912 Flanders Harry Johnson- 1911 Ford Three Cylinder Class Don Bernard- 1913 Locomobile - Champion OUR HERO AWARD - Joe Gest. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 27 28 --~~ lhotoftlhum Lawrence McCallum, father-in-law of member, George Stoker of Ada and Alvin Estep, grandparents of member Carl J . Estep of San Bernardino, Calif., proudly posed with his 1920 Modei-T Ford. Kansas City, Mo., brave the muddy roads in their trusty 1921 Dodge Closed cars were in the minority in those days and were a source of Brothers to take them to church. pride. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 29 FIRST RELEASE! from the Jerome D. Biederman Collection I j ~(1 11!'ood(ttdt~iu~ j I t t 1 ·,jd .[ --·--- -- ·----- _____ .J Style C • 1913 American Underslung Style C • 1910 Stanley Steamer Now available for the first time. Four sturdy wall plaques made with authentic renderings by world famous artist - Jerorrie D. Biederman. Printed on quality oatmeal paper and permanently bonded and glazed in full color. Styled to fit any environment, they are a true conversation piece as well as a valuable collector's item. PRICE: $3.00 plus 50c postage each. SAVE by buying the set of 4 or more and we will prepay postage anywhere in U.S.A. Please specify style of border and make of auto. Style C -Contemporary-Gold Coved Border or Style A - Antique- free-form brown distressed border. SIZE: 111/2 by 14 inches . ...: I Style A • 1910 Simplex Style A • 1911 Locomobile Send your check or money order to: JEROME D. BIEDERMAN COLLECTION 9348 SANTA MONICA BOULEVARD • BEVERLY HILLS, CALIFORNIA 90210 GIFT CARDS: Free gift card enclosed with your name if desired. • ALSO AVAILABLE ORIGINAL PAINTINGS. LIST OF AUTOS AND PRICES SENT UPON REQUEST. 30 FlPJ~~ISf.t ~IEW~ F®~ 1®12 by H elen Frye o/~ctw11. K HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 31 :·: : . ·.' I ! ;:• I . L 32 l THE DES1GJVE'J{_, .JIP1{_1L, 1912 · HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 33 A l' I.OW.:HF.Il MULL IH,\':'\f-:k GOWN wnrrE J..INEN WITll VJo:L\'ET SA811 • HARPf;R's BAZAR, July 1912 36 LETTERS TO THE EDITORS Standard i'vf,,.J cl A -2 HYDRO-FLUORIC ACID Dear Sir: Looking through some back issues of the Horseless Carriage Gazette, I notice a Mr. Rosekilly wrote in the May-June 1968 issue: "HYDROFLUORIC ACID is one of the most corrosive acids. There would be no parts left after a few minutes in solution ... " E _g Commercial metal cleaner is generally phosphoric acid. As I notice in my college chemistry test- Hydrofluoric acid is owned a 1912 Detroiter and just for the fun of it I have been WEAKER than phosphoric but SLIGHTLY stronger than trying to collect all relevant history of tllis marque, including acetic acid . a roster of now known Detroiter cars. This surely has been a Hydrofluoric acid will etch glass, however, and was delightful experience; one I believe no one else ever probably mistaken for being strong because of this property. undertook. Interesting etched glass pieces can be made by covering I have assembled quite a bit of information on the car glass with wax and exposing the desired part to HF acid. (But itself, but of the rather mysterious Mr. Briggs I have not been it is an EXCELLENT metal cleaner.) able to gather much information. - Fred Heinemann Two very important matters I have not yet been able to Hot Springs, Ark. 71901 ascertain. 1. When did Mr. C. S. Briggs leave the firm? He is prominently mentioned in the 1913 catalog but the 1914 says not a word about him. Yet, strangely THE AMERICAN BOY for September 1914, page 27, still lists the firm as the THE McKAY CAR Briggs-Detroiter Company. I cannot figure tllis out yet. Question 2. When did the Detroiter close up for good? Dear Editor: I am always interested in articles on cars that I 1917 seems the answer according to Mr. Applequist. Only am not familiar with or have ever seen. The McKay in the 145 automobiles were built in 1917, compared to the already May-June issue was very interesting, only I do not think that declining figure of 330 for 1916. it is like the Penn automobile. Throughout tllis whole delightful project I have In the Horseless Age, July 17-1912, page 96-98 there is a assiduously tried to follow the rules of scholarly research and ddescription of the Pullman 4-44,1913 model that looks very have carefully documented everytlling I know on the much like the McKay 40 even to the Ever-Ready spring Detroiter. starter in front of the Radiator. Yet somehow I still know very little of Mr. Briggs. I have The Automobile, July 18, 1912, page 140-143 gives a carefully studied what you and Dr. Lewerenz wrote in the very good description of the car with a lot of cuts of motor, GAZETTE, November-December 1966, page 52. (Krit refer chassis and other parts. ence.) I know that Briggs was somehow connected with the - AI Ziniker Brush Runabout Company before he was working jointly on Sherw ood, Oregon 97140 the Briggs-Detroiter and K.R.l.T. automobiles. Whatever became of him? Has !lis biography ever appeared in any of the three national antique automobile magazines? I would be grateful for any information that might be available from the BRIGGS-DETROITER HISTORY WANTED club members. - Ronald J. Putz Dear Mr. Miller: Before I get to the subject of tllis letter, I Bay City, Michigan desire to state how much I admire the HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE under your fine and talented editor CELEBRATION sllip. There never appears an uninteresting issue thanks to your ability to keep fine articles constantly appearing. Then AT KITCHENER, ONT., CANADA too, I always thoroughly enjoy the excellent contributions written for every issue by Dr. Alfred S. Lewerenz. May you Dear Mr. Miller: I am forwarding an application for member and Dr. Lewerenz continue to serve the club so ably for a ship in the 'Horseless Carriage Club of America'. This was good many years to come! brought to my attention by Mr. Dick Hermansen who, I The reason I am writing to you is to inquire what you believe, called on you while he was in California recently. know about the Briggs-Detroiter gasoline powered automo The Visitors and Convention Bureau of the Kitchener bile and its founder, Mr. Claude S. Briggs. (He was married to Chamber of Commerce has several events planned for the Robert C. Hupp's sister, and he participated in the dental near future in which we might find mutual interest. apparatus business of his father, Arthur C. Briggs of the - D. W. Clay Briggs-Kessler Dental Supply Company of Detroit. -Editor) Chairman, Visitors My late grandfather, John W. Putz (1872-1937), once and Convention Bureau HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 37 NEW ZEALAND ENTHUSIASM The adventure of one of a large English family that mi grated to Australia in 1851 and of his grandson who became associated with the automobile industry in the pioneering days. The book deals with many interesting facets of the development of the manufacturing and selling of Australian automobiles and coach work for automobiles since a high import duty was imposed especially to protect the latter industry. A trip to Detroit exposed Mr. Cheney to intimate contact with the American automobile industry, its personalities, history and workings. Back in Australia he became the agent for the original Dodge-Brothers cars. His association with the products of England, Scotland and the European Continent provides material for an interesting view of the world's great automotive history. It is a desirable book both for entertaining reading and for historical reference. ANTIQUE AUTO BODY THREE VOLUMES OF FIVE VOLUME SET NOW AVAILABLE FOR ANTIQUE BODY RESTORERS ASSEMBLED FROM HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS AND PUBLISHED BY DAN POST MOTOR BOOKS, P.O. BOX 150. ARCADIA, CAL. 6" X 9" . 127 PAGES EACH VOLUME. ILLUSTRATED. BOUND IN Dear Editor: Herewith a photo of my recently restored 1912 FLEXIBLE "LEATHERETTE" PAPER COVERS AT $4.00 POSTPAID Austin Ten Phaeton. Herb and Mrs. Schoenfeld saw it when EACH (CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ADD 5 PERCENT TAX. l they were here, but we did not have the time to go motoring. METAL WORK Is a story on this car any use to you, and if so, how many words and pictures? It has a photogenic engine with This volume is devoted to the layout and fabrication of sheet metal work for the application to the wooden body four separate cylinde~s and lots of brass and copper. framework, for fenders, hood and valences. It simplifies the I am a bit of a collector of this make -also have a 1924 problems for automotive hobbiests and makes it possible and a 1928, Tourers, and as good in their way as this one. for him to do his own restoration work in these days of We do a lot of rallying and touring with the cars, at least high labor costs. one run a month with one of the clubs, and several weekends WOOD WORK annually if we can fit it in with fishing and boating. - Douglas E. Wood The second volume deals with layout of body framing, Epsom, Auckland, N.Z. the selection of proper lumber for body construction, the e Welcome to stories and photos from our overseas cutting of the individual components and the framing of the body structure. This is a rare treatise on the subject members, as well as our U.S. members. which lifts the craft out of the mere cabinet-maker's ap proach to the problems. Every restorer of automobiles should have this book, as well as the other volumes in this series. SEND IN YOUR MODEL-T SPEEDSTER LEATHER WORK STORIES AND PHOTOS The third book in this set explains the methods of layout for upholstering. The constructing of the foundation springs Dear Editor: Keep up the good work on this fine publica for cushions and backs are explained and illustrated. These tion. Would it be possible for a feature on "T" speedsters in instructions should enable the amateur restorer to tackle his own upholstering problems with confidence, and pride in the future? the finished product. - David Ker Other volumes in preparation will add valuable knowledge Tempe, Ariz. 85281 for the perfecting of other skills required in restoring an tique automobiles. 3SSSSSBSSSSSSSSSSSSSE Official Emblem $3.50 LARGE SIZE - 3 Y2 INCHES IN DIAMETER. HEAVY BRASS WITH DESIGN IN RED, BLUE AND BLACK VITREOUS ENAMEL. FOR RADIATOR OR DASH. California Residents Add St FROM HORSE TO HORSEPOWER for Every Dollar (Sales Tax) BY S. A. CHENEY. 296 PAGES 5-5/8" X 8-718". 32 ILLUSTRA Horseless Carriage Club of America TIONS. PUBLISHED BY RIGBY LIMITED. ADELAIDE, AUSTRALIA, AND AVAILABLE AT $6.75 FROM TRI-OCEAN BOOKS. 62 TOWN 9031 E. Florence Avenue SEND STREET. SAN FRANCISCO. CAL. 94107. * * * * * Downey, California 90240 * * * * * 38 OBITUARIES WAYNE R. WEAVER, March 28, 1969 ... Clarion, Pa. MARVIN L. DAVIS, July 19, 1969 ...... Flint, Mich. FIIJ. 1. Tho "Benner Six" a · new G·cyllnder c.:H 11t $1,750.00. 'l'ho motor has cyli nders cast In pairs wnrS D. W. PRICE, JR. Integral water jackets, 3Y.. x 4 Inches, rnted as 25·30 U. P. 'l'ho engine and two speed sliding chango gear lor nJC. !\ unit with llywh &el at tho front, flex ibly mounted on threo point:!, Clutch, mulUplo disc, drive by crt.rda/'f"" Mr. Price was the founder of the Rochester .(N.Y.) Region shart. of the HCCA and served as director of the group. In 1954 he was presented with the AI Nagle award for contribu It was powered by the six cylinder Brownell engine and tions to the Genesee Vally Antique Car Society of which he transmission unit. The tight money market of that period was founder. He owned a 1913 Overland touring car, a shut off the supply of capital after the building of nearly 1934 Rolls-Royce and a 1937 Cadillac. 200 automobiles. At one time he was in charge of the publication of The Jn 1910 Mr. Benner operated a garage in Washington, DC. Rolls-Royce Owner's Club bulletin, "The Flying Lady." He Mr. Benner died in April at Sa n Diego, California at was a member of the Livingston County Antique Car Club the age of 89. plus other fraternal organizations. His death occurred in the Rochester General Hospital on April 21, 1969 from a cerebral hemorrhage at the age of 45. EDNA LOUISE FERRETT The mother of HCCA members Charles and Fred Perrett of San Jacinto, Calif., passed in August 1969 at a few days less than 75 years. She was known to many at the swap meets for the period costumes she offered. Her services to COMPARING 1913 MERCER RACEABOUTS the womenfolk and her cordial manner will be missed. The reprinting of the newspaper story of the latest auction OWEN R. SKELTON sale of a Mercer Raceabout in the May-June issue of the The prominent automotive engineer died in Palm Beach, GAZETTE, pages 28-29, caused some embarrassment to the Florida on July 22, 1969 at 81 years of age. He skyrocketed former owner and restorer of the car which had recently to fame when he joined his talents to those of Fred M. Zeder been sold in a previous auction for $45,000. This revolved and Carl Breer. They formed a company of "Zeder, Skelton around the term, "more 'authentic' ". But both cars were & Breer" to develop a new car with a highspeed engine. entirely authentic, except fOI; the modifications related by This design was adopted by the Willy-Overland Company, the original owner of the Gray /Royston machine in the then under the headship of W. P. Chrysler, and a plant was same pages of the GAZETTE. Harry Johnson bought a erected at Elizabeth, N.J. Mercer Raceabout without the Mercer engine. In time he Meanwhile, Maxwell-Chalmers was heading for the "rocks" found an authentic engine and restored the car to its original and Chrysler was selected to salvage the company. The 1923 condition. Harry has long been known for his superb res Chalmers was the first quantity production car to be equipped torations. His attention to historical accuracy is most me with Lockheed Hydraulic front wheel brakes. The follow ticulous and his craftsmanship is admired by everyone. There ing year the new Chrysler car supplanted the Chalmers and is no question as to the desirability for the car that he Zeder, Skelton & Breer became engineers and directors of proudly owned and drove for many years. the Chrysler Corporation. 0. R. Skelton served as an execu tive engineer until 1951 and as a consultant until 1954. LESTER TIRE COMPANY APPOINTMENTS OLIVER E. BARTHEL, PIONEER AUTO DESIGNER E. L. North has been appointed president of Lester Tire Company, Bedford Heights, Ohio, a division of Lester Sales Mr. Barthel, 91, died August 28, 1969 at Livonia, Michi Co., Inc. He had been vice-president in charge of operations. gan. His first position was with Charles B. King, who built the first automobile driven in Detroit in 1895. It had four The appointment was announced by Joseph P. Kish, presi cylinders 'enbloc'. dent of Lester Sales. From 1901 to 1904 he worked as a designer for Henry Before joining Lester Tire, North was president of the Ford, and helped to make the Ford racing cars. He was also North Racing Car Equipment Co. Lester Tire was founded by associated with Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Maxwell and Standard, Thomas J. Lester as the Lincoln Highway Tire Co. in 1968 and briefly ran his own company. and its name was changed early this year. Mr. Barthel was credited with 34 patents. He retired as Kish also announced his appointment of Gerold E. Mann consulting automotive and mechanical engineer in 1955. as vice-president of Lester Tire Co. Lester Tire markets tires for antique and classic cars both REGINALD P. BENNER, AUTO MAKER here and in foreign countries, and is a major buyer, restorer R. P. Benner, A. 1. Michelbacher and J. C. Welwood and seller of antique and classic automobiles. formed the Benner Motor Car Company in New York City The Lester Tire plant and offices are at 26881 Cannon in 1908 and announced the Benner car for the 1909 season. Road, Bedford Heights. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 39 DISPLAY YOUR CLUB !HS!GH!A! HCCA OFFICIAL ENAMELED EMBLEM 3112" diam., 3 colors and gold. A must for your Horseless Carriage...... $3.50 HCCA EMBLEM PINS - ENAMELED HCCA ASH TRAY - CHROME PLATED 4V2" diameter...... 50 ORDER FROM Horseless Carriage Club of America 9031 E. Florence Avenue Downey, California 90240 25% discount on Regional Group orders of $25.00 Ca lifornia Residents Add 5c for Every Dolla r (Sales Tax) 40 'S: t~' CHJtiSTMAS GIFT SUGGESTIONS 1. Au tocar Sc ri pt 85. Lafayette 2. American Motors, NY 86 . Liberty 3. American Motors, In d. 87. Lincoln Ford Motor Co. 4. American Austin 88. Lincoln oval red 5. American Locomotive Car 89. Lincoln oval blue 6. Apperson Auto Co. 90 . Linco ln V-12 7. Auburn 91. Lincoln Continental 8. Ajax 6 92. Lin coln Zepher 9. Bentley 93. Little 10. Bantam 94. Locomobile 11. Buick Script 95 . Locomob ile Script 12. Buick 96. Lozier Script 13. Bugatti 97. Lozier 14. Case Script 98. Marquette 15. Case 99 . Maxwell Script 16. Cadillac 100. Maxwell 17. Cad illac 30 101. Mercer 18. Cadillac Script 102. Mercer Sc ri pt 19. Cadillac V-16 103. Metz 20. Chevrolet 104. Moon 21. Chev. Bo Tie 105. Moon 22. Chalmers 106. Minerva 23 . Chandler 6 107. Mitchell 24. Chrysler 108. Mitchell Script 25. Chrysler Imperial 109. Nash 26. Cleveland 110. Oakland 27. Cole Script 111. Oldsmobile 28. Cole 112. Oldsmobile Sc ri pt 29. Columbia 6 113. Overland 30. Cord 114. Overland Sc ript 31. Crow Elkhart 115. Overland Whippet 32. Cunningham 116. Packard Script 33. Cutting Script 117. Packard 34. Daimler 118. Paige Script JEWELRY WITH YOUR CHOICE OF EMBLEMS OR SCRIPTS 35. DeSoto 119. Paige 36. DeVeaux 120. Pan See our " MINI" BRASS RADIATOR SCRIPTS OR " MINI" AUTO EMBLEMS. Beautiful color, fine 37. Diana 121. Peerless detail, authentic, :Y•" approximately in size. 38. Doble Steam 122. Peerless 8 1. Neck Chain and Lacey disc, available in gold filled sterling silver, 18" chain ...... $5.95 39. Dodge 123. Pierce 8 2. Tie Tac ...... 1.50 40. Dort 124. Pi erce Script 3. Tie Clips, available in T-Roadster, T-Touring oval FORD or Mini Emblems or Scripts .... 1.50 41. Dover 125. Pierce 12 4. Key chain, yellow or nickel polished ...... 1.50 42. Duesenberg 126. Pierce 1928 5. Bracelet, in gold filled or sterling silver ...... 3.95 43. Duesenberg Round 127. Plymouth 6. Charm discs, yellow gold filler or sterling silver ...... • ... .• .. .. • ..• ...... 2.95 44. Duesenberg Wing 128 . Pontiac 7. Lighter, as shown flip top ...... • ...... • . . • . • . . • ...... 1.95 45. Durant 129. Prem ier Sc ript 8. Telescopic Tie Clip pen, shown as It appears on Tie 46. Dupont ~~eomier also shown pulled out ready to use as pen ...... • .. .. • .. .. 1.50 47. Elcar m: 9. Lighter, slim, flip top ...... • . . . . • . . • ...... • . 1.95 48. Elgin 132 . Reo Sc ript 10. Cuff Links, pair ...... 3.95 49. EMF 133. Rickenbacher 11 . Money Clip, gold or silver (not shown) ...... 3.95 50. EMF Script 134. Rockne 51. Essex 135. Rambl er Script You have 162 Miniature Auto Emblems and Radiator Scripts to Make a Selection for Any of the 52. Essex Terra. 6 136. Rollin Jewelry as Shown and Price Includes the Emblem or Scripts. See List of Emblems or Scripts 53. Erskine Available On This Page. Orders $5.00 or less add SOc. 137. Roll s Royce Script 54. Ford A 138. Rol ls Royce 55. Ford Sc ri pt 139. Roosevelt 56. Ford T 140. Ru xton 57. Flanders 141. Saxon 58. Flanders Script 142. Sc ripps Booth 59 . Flanders 143. Star 60 . Flint 144. Stanley 61. Frankl in 145. Stanley Script 62. Franklin Round 146. Stearns Knight 63 . Franklin Script 147. Stevens-Duryea 64. Frazier 148. Stoddard Dayton 65. Gardner 149. Studebaker Script 66. Graham Paige 150. Studebaker 67. Graham 151. Stutz 68. Gray 1 ~2. Stutz 8 69. Hay nes 153. T. Flyer 70. Hispano Su iza 154. Tourist Sc ript # 1 HORN $49.95 # 2 HORN $39.95 # 3 HORN $29.95 71. Hudson Script 155. Tucker 72. Hu dson 1 ~. Ve lie Large Solid Brass Windshield Mount Mirror 73. Hupmobile 157. Velie Sc ri pt (Rear View). Adjusts all directions, 5Y2" x 74. Hupmobile Script 158. Willys-Knight 7y, ". Beveled Glass, Finest Quality. $22.95 75. Hupmobile Round 159. Wills-St. Clair 76. lsotta Fraschini 160. Willys 6 1. ADAPTE R (b rass) allaches to horn also holds reed ...... $ .75 77. Jackson 161. Wh ite Script 2. ADAPTER and Reed Cover (brass) also used as bu lb connector, each 1.00 78. Jeffery 162. Winton 6 3. TUB lNG brass (flexible for all old style horns, per foot 1.00 79. Jewett 163. Crossley 4. BULB MOUNTING BR ACKET brass o ri g inal design, each 3.00 80. Jo rd an 164. Kri t 5. BLACK RUB BER BULB w ith brass ferrule, each, Large or Smal l . . . . 2.50 81. Ka iser 165. Mark Ill NOTE : All threaded items above carry a %" x 32 thread. Thread design varied 82. King 166. Marmon with manufacturers. To assure fit, items 1 and 2 ana 4 should be ordered 83 . Kissel Kar 167. Red Stop Sign together. 84. LaSall e New Solid Brass Generators, dup. of originals for '08-'12 Fords & other cars, complete ready to add carbide and BRASS MIRRORS $12.95 water and make acetylene for headlights, po lished and coated. Ht. 12'12" Send 10c for New Illustrated Catalog eire. 5%" approx. freight prepaid. $79.95. California Residents Add 5% Sales Tax ALL PRICES POSTPAID Manufactured on Our Own Exclusive Dies. Fine Quality. 3761 HILLWAY DRIVE, GLENDALE, CALIFORNIA 91208 Fin e Workmanship Guaranteed! OR BOX 332, VERDUGO CITY, CALIFORNIA 91046 HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 41 IMIBMDRY MUSBUM 1907 Oldsmobile Flying Roadster Model-H. The back of the photo indicates that it was printed in Soerabaia, Java, a long way from home for the Olds. The identity of the people in the picture is unknown. Note the "cozy" rumble seat - the passenger doesn't need a seat belt! Photo submitted by Ronald J. Knight, Pacific President William Howard Taft and his family in a 40 H .P. White Palisades, Calif. 90272. Steamer in 1908. from th e W. E. Miller library of Ve hicl es 42 /..!''( ,--.. ~~· · .· ~ ~- _ .... .: ···· PORTLAND'S SCENIC TOUR The 4th annual scenic tour conducted by the Portland, Oregon, Regional Group was held June 27-29, with 50 REGIONAL NEWS WANTED horseless carriages in the caravan. The tour headquartered at Club Paper Editors: Please Sweetbrier Inn, located at the gateway to the beautiful send a copy of your paper or Tualatin Valley. The 89 mile tour wound its way through other news items to: delightful regions of varied terrain with the Saturday run starting promptly at 9:00 a.m. Costumes were especially Sandy Grover, becoming to the lovely ladies and dapper gentlemen. A Regional News Editor welcome coffee stop was held inside the warm and friendly 901 West 4th Street Bonny Slope Schoolhouse, for it had been raining enroute. Madera, California 93637 Lunch was served at the famous Damon Trout Ranch, during which the car judges took note of the beautiful autos for the award competition. Following lunch the tour returned to Sweetbrier. The awards banquet Saturday evening was preceded by some most enjoyable organ music. Master of Mr. and Mrs. Bill Lehr, Sr., ride proudly in the 1915 Modei-T Glenn Slack, Master of Ceremonies at the Awards Banquet. Glenn Ford Touring. also garnered a 2nd place for his 1913 Modei-T Ford. Way in Washington, and also from Eugene, Oregon. Jack ceremonies Glenn Slack was introduced by club president Davis served as tour chairman, assisted by his lovely wife Dan Tabert, and the presentation of awards followed, plus Beverly. (Thanks to Bill Lehr, Sr. for sending in the tour numerous door prizes. Jack and Carol Lunceford and Bob facts and pix.-SCG) and Betty Duncan were celebrated for their wedding anniver saries, and Vi Williams was presented a prize for winning the I st ANNUAL CAR SHOW AND baby naming contest which had been held during registration Friday evening on the eve of the tour. Sunday's tour was SWAP MEET FOR GOODING RG under bright, warm sunshine for a short but enjoyable run, The Gooding Regional Group, Idaho, held its first returning to the Inn for some swimming and picture taking. annual swap meet and car show Sunday, July 13th, with 44 Visitors on the tour included those from Walla Walla, old cars, the oldest being a 1903 Oldsmobile, showing in Richland, Kennewick, Underwood, Orchards and Federal downtown Twin Falls. The show was a preclude to the club HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 43 Bishop, of Wendell, a 1905 Sears; Gary Wolverton, Twin Falls, a 1907 Thomas-Detroit; and Don Wolverton, also of Twin Falls, the 1903 Oldsmobile. ·Correspondent Fred W. Van Englen noted that "the Gooding Club was well pleased with the outcome of their first swap meet, which net the club $350, and drew large crowds all day long. Later events for the Gooding Regional included their August meeting held at the summer cottage of Ben and Opal Box in the Gagerman Valley on the Snake River. On August 22-24 the club participated in the Wagon Days at Sun Valley, Ketchum, where from 80 to 100 cars were shown, coming from Salt Lake City, Boise, Twin Falls and Idaho Falls. The Gooding group hosted the camp grounds for those camping out the night before the event. Club President Dan Talbert's fine 1913 Overland touring car on the Portland tour, plus loyal followers. PACIFIC NORTHWEST TOUR HOSTED BY SEATTLE-TACOMA The Seattle-Tacoma club held its Pacific Northwest tour July 18-20 with headquarters at Lakewood near Tacoma. Roy Berrens and wife Carol with .their committee did a tremendous job in the planning department, according to Myrl M. Johnson, club correspondent. Fifty-five cars were registered on the tour which made the trek from Hoods Canal and Fort Lewis. Of special note was the appearance of George and Evelyn Breitung of Everett, Washington, in their newly restored 1910 Rambler, Model 54. They made a 5,000 mile trip, starting on June 20th, driving the Rambler through Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, and Wisconsin, thence returning through Michigan, Minnesota, N. Dakota, Montana, Idaho, and arriving in Tacoma on July 18th. It was reported that they traveled about 50 MPH, averaging 400 miles daily. This is proof, certainly, of a fine 1907 Thomas-Detroit Speedster owned by Gary Wolverton of the restoration within the S-T club. Gooding Regional Group. The car is the "grandpappy" of the Chryler car. TRENTON, NEW JERSEY, CLUB HOLDS ANTIQUE AUTO SHOW The second annual New Jersey State Fair Antique Auto Show at Trenton was held Saturday, September 13 , with the club hosting other regional groups and auto clubs that desired to participate in the event. Plaques were presented to all entrants and trophies were awarded to winners in the auto judging and costume departments. Free admission, as well as box lunches, were provided to all registrants. LA JOLLA REGIONAL HELPS INAUGURATE CORONADO BRIDGE Past National Director Roger Taecker wrote to report Gooding Regional Swap Meet at Twin Falls, Idaho, July 13, 1969. the important event that the La Jolla Regional Group participated in on August 2nd for the opening of the new San Diego-Coronado Bay Bridge. The La Jolla group had the tour scheduled the following weekend. The show, appropri lead 35 antique autos in a parade of some 55 other pre-'16 ately enough, took place as part of the grand opening of the and vintage cars that made the last official trip over the now Twin Falls County Historical Museum at the old Union retired ferries, and turned about to make the first official trip School building. In charge of the day-long event were Gary over the new bridge. Opening ceremonies included speeches and Don Wolverton, Loyal Cooper, Clinton Kerr, Kennedy by California Gov. Ronald R~agan, and the mayors of the Stuart, Walt Rudolph and AI Osterhoudt. Among the very, two cities of San Diego and Cotonado. A huge luncheon for very older makes of autos were those belonging to Roy 1.,500 persons was served at the historic old Del Coronado 44 Hotel, built in 1880, and all the antique car drivers and their Three planned outings have been carried out by the passengers were decked out in full costume for the affair. All Hoquiam Regional Group in the State of Washington, as were given certificates by the Ferry Company for the last reported by club secretary Cecil L. Herrington. On June 8 ride on the ferry boats. Pictures have been submitted to the the group toured to McCleary for a picnic in city park where editorial staff for subsequent publication. they were joined by the "Cars of Yesteryear", an independ ent club from Shelton. A total of 18 cars showed. The second tour, held on June 12, celebrated Montesano's "Farm HOQUIAM REGIONAL REPORTS Days", with 14 cars in the parade. Member Marion Bogdono SUMMER TOURS IN WASHINGTON vich's son and daughter drove a miniature Model T, followed by dad's prize winning 1913 Model T Ford. Following the parade the group went to the Bogdonovich's home for a picnic dinner. The group won first place in the special division and took "Grand Sweepstakes" as well. The third tour, which was on July 13th, saw the club drive to Lake Quinault where the participants picnicked on the lake shore back of the lodge. Eleven cars made the trip, and the first outing for Chuck Erwin's newly restored 1932 Rockne coupe. Drawing much attention on the trip was club president Paul Smith's "Old Tom", his fine running 1917 unrestored Model T Ford which was driven from Nielton, 35 miles away. The Hoquiam Regional also held an "Autorama" on September 7th with approximately 25 cars lined up for the show. Paul Smith, Hoquiam Reg ional Group, driving " O ld Tom" , his unrestored 1917 Ford Modei-T. EUGENE REGIONAL KEEPS BiUSY IN OREGON AREAS The Eugene, Oregon, Regional Group, while partici pating in many neighboring regional events, such as Reedsport's Fleet Days, Florence's Rhododendron Festival, Roseburg's Crater Lake Tour, the Concours d'Elegance, Portland RG's big tour and various swap meets, Eugene conducted its own annual "Little Glidden" Tour under the able leadership of Bill and Nancy Bauer, held in June. Another big weekend was enjoyed by the membership in July when 20 families enjoyed the annual Field Meet and an old fashioned campout. Cliff and Nina Kocks had charge of setting up the field events which proved to be quite original and tremendously successful. (Thanks to Betty Lajoie of the Eugene RG for the news item.) Ra lph Major, member of the Hoquiam Regional Group, driving his right-hand drive Canad ian built 1912 Ford Modei-T. HCC OF COLORADO AND CASPER, WYO., GET TOGETHER The annual campout held by the Casper, Wyoming, RG was held in the Medicine Bow National Forest in July with weather threatening most of the time. While the Model T's on the tour didn't have much trouble on the slippery dirt roads, the same cannot be said for Bruce Thompson's 1913 Little which seemed to require woman and man power to get it over the hilly areas. An old sawmill settlement was visited, with Sunday's drive pretty much on their own by way of exploring the area. An ice cream social was scheduled in September for the club with the women furnishing pies, cakes, etc., the club providing the ice cream, and the men, as usual, furnishing their good company and appetites. Thanks to Don Couture, President of the Casper Regional, HCCA for Hoquiam Regional Group cars at Quinault, July 13, 1969. the news. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 45 CASPER CAMPS OUT AT MEDICINE BOW PORTABLE GARAGES rlflij The Horseless Carriage Club of Colorado Regional Group A Necessity for Every Antique Car. · -=~ was invited to join the Wyoming Group of the HCCA for a tour of the area surrounding Casper on August 16-17, PROTECT your car from dust, moisture and fingers in the garage and on tour with a durable, heavy (.00375) Dupont according. to correspondent Harlan L: Fletcher, secretary of polyethylene clear PORTABLE GARAGE. Strong stitched the Colorado club. Also to close out the busy summer of seams and elastic band at bottom. Will not crack in cold touring, the annual Aspen Lodge Tour held September 27-28 weather. Folds into compact bundle for tours. took the group to the high mountain counhy n'ear Longs 13' long x 142" wide ... (small, low cars) .... $ 9.50 Peak. 16' long x 162" wide .. . (most T's and A's) .. $11.00 19' long x 162" wide . .. (large tourings) .... $12.50 21' lon~ x 162" wide . .. (Grand Monsters) •.. $15.00 ORDER YOURS TODAY! Send check or money order today to: IDAHO'S SOUTHWESTERN REGIONAL HOLDS 17th ANNUAL McCALL TOUR WAYZATA AUTOMOTIVE SUPPLIES: DEPT. G 16230 Fifth Ave. North - Wayzata, Minn. 55391 A. W. Pete Sorlien of Caldwell, Idaho, sent in a brochure about the Southwestern Regional Group, Idaho, annual McCall Tour scheduled for August 30 through Sept. 1. Departure was from Boise, arriving at McCall via Emmet, Banks, Donnelly, with water hole stops and coffee breaks enroute. Lunch was served at Big Eddy Campgrounds. On the first night of the tour the group enjoyed a beach party barbecue at Ponderosa Park Beach, during which movies of the 1962 Reno Tour were shown, plus some Laurel and Hardy slapstick movies. On Sunday, the next day, the main activity was the car showing and style show in McCall with the awards banquet held at the Shore Lodge. Club President Richard Gasparotti passed out awards to those qualifying for trophies in the car classes and costumes. On Labor Day a Hillbilly breakfast was served, followed by a drive to the Old Fiddler's Museum at Weiser, thence homeward bound for all. Tour co-chairman were Pete Sorlien and John Deringer. Doing the style show commentary was Jean Lundell. Fifty cars were expected to participate. A North Carolina HCCA member cranks a one cylinder Brush run about during a recent tour of the Marine Base at Camp Lejeune, N.C. Official U. S. Marine Corps Photo by Sargeant W. S. Barleston. OLYMPIA, WASHINGTON GROUP HOLDS BACK ROADS TOUR Tour chairman Hans Sjoboen of the Olympia, Washing ton RG, writes that his group held its annual "Trail Days Back Roads Tour" on July 26, covering 60 miles of scenic State of Washington farming country, and included a parade at Tenino, celebrating their Pioneer Trail Days. The club won first place with 20 cars in the line-up. The evening banquet was held in the famous Tyre Motor Inn at Tumwater, with erttertainment furnisped by longtime member Weldon Johnson's Dixieland band. In other news, the Olympia Group took two first place winners in the Seattle Concours last April, with club president Dr. Deshaye placing with his 1927 Lincoln sedan, and past president Clyde Sinclair receiving a prize for his fine 1915 Model T Ford touring. In June many members of the club also took part in Tacoma's Centennial Lejeune Marines inspect a 1924 Buick owned by Robert L. Baldridge Parade. Among them was Steve Davison, driving his dad's of the North Carolina HCCA. The antiques, ranging in scope from the famed "Tin-Lizzy" to the forerunner of the modern station wagon 1909 Stoddard Dayton with U. S. Senator Jackson as a were displayed aboard the base to provide the Marines a glimpse of passenger. American Automobile Antiquity. Official U.S. Marine Corps photo. 46 CENTRAL CALIFORNIA REGIONAL GOES TO SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK 1907 Stevens-Duryea - Most Desirable Car Trophy Award, Bob and Frankie Robinson, Fresno. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 47 1910 Warren-Detroit- Hard Luck Trophy, Stan and Beverly Vollmer, Orin and Theresa Campion, Santa Rosa Regional Group, joined with Visalia. their immaculate 1909 Cadillac Demi-Tonneau. By Aggie Young, et al. Soults and Vic Groah. The Youngs- Marlin, Aggie, Lloyd and Photos by Sandy Grover Kenneth, together with Mrs. Phillips, handled the printing of brochures and forms. Others contributed, too, such as the The year 1969 claimed the great Sequoia National Park Fresno Bee's Ken Hanson and KMJ Radio. Johnny Robert area as the site for the annual Central California Regional son and Jim Rucker of Sonora made the three hard luck Groups tour, June 20-22, with nine different regionals trophies, donating them to the club. participating and a total of 53 antique, vintage and classic The tour departed. from the Fresno area at the Eastgate autos on the tour roster. There were 19 different makes with Shopping Center and things proceeded smoothly all the way nine being one of a kind. Tour Chairman W. H. 'Bill' Phillips to 'The Stump', where a lunch stop was held as one enters and his committee did a grand job of staging the tour and the Kings Canyon National Park proper. Shortly after the carrying out this annual event to a highly successful caravan moved out Marlin Young's 1907 Locomobile broke assignment for the pleasure of everyone. His wife Jeanne and its crankshaft. So onto the trailer it went and homeward Chris Thomas served in many capacities on the committee, as bound. Son Lloyd was driving the 1914 Model T and did George Radanovich, Dick and Louise Avakian, Dave Covered Wagon rig, so they weren't left high and dry for Goerlich and Doug Judy. Service truck drivers were Bob rides. 1913 Model T Runabout - Best Model T Trophy Award, Don and Ray and Ella Pope, of Rippon, from Modesto Regional Group in their Cherrie Fowler, Bakersfield. 1915 Model T Ford roadster. 48 1932 Cadillac V-16 Phaeton - Hard Luck Trophy, Don and Martha 1931 Pierce-Arrow Sports Phaeton- Car Driven Longest Distance, C. Jones, Terra Bella. B. and Lillian Dickey, Arvin. A contingent of cars from the Tulare County Regional visiting regional groups. There were nearly 150 persons on left the Vic Kimzey home in Visalia and joined the convoy the tour, including 20 children. The scenery was magnificent, enroute. Saturday's big drive saw the group travel to Moro and, being held a short time after the snows had melted, the Rock where most took the climb to the 6,725 ft. elevation trees were extra rich in color. The pictures accompanying lookout vantage point. The view was simply breathtaking this story list the winners of various awards and special from here. Onward, the caravan descended down the 20% attractions. The tour for 1969 was indeed a wonderful event grade to Buck Eye Flats Campground on the Kaweah River, and one to be long remembered. wondering if they could climb back up! This was some drive. They all made it back, however, with several stopping for 1928 Chevrolet 1924 Packard Roadster cooling spells. 1923 Star 1915 Packard The awards banquet held Saturday night was in the 1912 Chalmers 1931 Cadiallac V-16 Sequoia Lodge, preceded by the usual social hour. National 1931 Ford Roadster 1929 Ford Sedan 1929 Ford Touring 1924 Ford Roadster Directors and their wives, Mr. and Mrs. Dave Goerlich and 1910 Ford Touring 1931 Ford Coupe Mr. and Mrs. Sandy Grover were present, and a number from 1931 Packard Coupe 1925 Buick Coupe This excellent example of a 1915 center door Model T Ford sedan with John and Dina Esposti of Santa Rosa added much interest Max and Ann Toby's beautiful 1909 Model T Ford mother-in-law seat among the varieties of antique autos. runabout added its charm to the tour from the San Francisco area . HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 49 1907 Locomobile Touring - Oldest Car Award and Hard Luck Trophy, Marlin and Aggie Young, Fresno. Giant sequoias. dwarf the Model T Fords. Bob and Letitia Scott, Pasadena, came from So. Calif. Regional Group with their fine 1912 Reo Touring. Cliff and Ella Jamison's 1914 Model T Ford roadster stands in Central California Regional Group's president W. G. 'Pop' Turner and foregre~und of the General Sherman Tree, the largest and one of the wife Ned strike a pose in their 1910 Flanders speedster parked atop oldest of living things (over 3,000 years old) . the 'Auto Log'. 50 \?>U\\."t~ WH . '1'-l~S \"t AT WAS THE ORIGINAL COlOR? WHAT SIZE TIRES? ::::.: THE YEAR? IS fT? ~HAT o\scoN't\NU£0? WHAT DID IT COST? WH£N WAS \l Correspondence for this department should be addressed to: Dr. ALFRED S. LEWERENZ 4107 HOLLY KNOLL DRIVE HOLLYWOOD 27, CALIFORN lA 90027 To receive a reply, inquiries MUST include a self-addressed, stamped envelope. Send front and side view photos, engine and serial numbers, bore, stroke, wheelbase, etc. HALE FIRE ENGINE Dear Sir: Congratulations on your July/August issue! It is (l)"' undoubtedly the best yet and will really put us on our u :.c mettle. (l) >.... With particular reference to Mr. Alan H. Lerner's inquiry 0 on page 46, the Hale Fire Pump Company are neighbors and former clients of mine. I telephoned and talked to a Mrs. Rae Januzelli, who tells me that if she can obtain the pump type, ... but particularly the serial number, she will be able to supply (l) all information including owner's manual, etc. She should be ~ addressed at the Hale Fire Pump Company, 708 Spring Mill Mea High-tension Magneto Mounted on Trunnions. u.i Avenue,Conshohocken,Pa. 19428. ~ E - Hyde W. Ballard 2 Barto, Pa. 19504 u.. A RARE GERMAN MEA MAGNETO FOUND Sir: A friend of mine obtained a very unusual magneto. I am hoping you can tell what car used it. The label on its side reads as follows: Mea Type BH4D No. 21443 Marbury Bro. New York. It is a high tension magneto. - Neil C. La Rosa San Diego, California e In reply to your inquiry of August 7th, the Mea Bell-shaped Field-Magnets of Mea Magneto Magneto was foreign produced having been manufactured in Stuttgart, Germany, by the Unionwerk Mea, G.m.b.H. ING by J. W. Brand, August 1914, Don Haag, Holland. This The Type BH4 was designed for average size four-cylinder reference on page 127 includes a picture of the Mea Type motors. The Mea was used by a number of European makes BH4 magneto. If your friend's Mea differs greatly from this before and after World War I. magneto was optional. illustration please let me know in what way. The chances are that the Mea your friend owns was used on a four-cylinder car made in Europe, possibly prior to the Great War. I do not know how a specific make could be pin pointed. A 1911 SCHACHT MODEL B TWO-CYLINDER For further information on the Mea magneto I am CAR SHOWN IN "WHAT IS IT?" enclosing photo-copies of pages 260-262 from the CYCLO PEDIA OF AUTOMOBILE ENGINEERING, Vol. II , 1915 Dr. Lewerenz: Re the 'What is it' car top page 46 in the Edition, American Technical Society, Chicago. Also pages 'Gazette' - you missed the absence of a crank in front! But 126-131, from DE AUTOMIBIEL EN HAAR BEHANDEL- I'm cheating - I know the car and have the photo too - it's a HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/ September-October 1969 51 e We thank you for solving the identification problem pictured on page 46 of the HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE for July-August, 1969. A good picture of the 1911 Schacht Model B Surrey appears on page 15 5 of the CYCLE AND AUTOMOBILE TRADE JOURNAL for March, 1911. Included are brief specifications for this two-cylinder model. See also Page 36 of July-August issue of the HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE for pictures of a 1910 Model-R Schacht restored by Alvin White of Grand Island, Nebraska. TWO PICTURES- A 1914 CADILLAC AND A 7 7 7 7 Sir: I have called upon you a few times before to identify 1911 Modei-B Schacht Two Cylinder. old cars. Again I am enclosing two photos which I found in an old 1911 Schacht Model 'B' or '3-in-1' Surrey- two-cylinder. It photo album. was owned by Laverne Skoglund of Minneapolis 15 years Also if space is available in the Horseless Gazette maybe ago. It was made in Cincinnati, of course. other readers would enjoy looking at them. Do any of your readers have any other photos of - William T. Wright, Jr. Cincinnati-manufactured automobiles? Elmer, New Jersey - Cornelius W. Hauck 8400 Summerhouse Road Cincinnati 43, Ohio 1914 Cadillac Phaeton, the last four cylinder model. It had the double ring arid pinion two-speed rear axle which was patented by Austin of Grand Rapids. A law suit financially embarassed Cadillac Motor Car Company. 1909 Schacht two cylinder pie wagon owned by Ted and Matt Oney of Oklahoma City. They were participants in this year's National One and Two Cylinder Tour at Wichita, Kansas. 1906-1907 I sotta-F rasch in i ( ?) . e Many thanks for sending the two pictures of old time cars with your letter of July 23rd. One snapshot was no problem to identify as it depicted a 1914 Cadillac four-cylinder Phaeton. The landaulet in the other picture was more of a puzzle, resembling a number of U.S. and foreign makes of the 1907-1909 period. To narrow 52 down the field I sent the picture to David Rait who reported that the car, in his opinion, was about a 1906-1907 20 HP Isotta-Fraschini. In going through my file on Isotta-Fraschini I found no illustration of a model exactly like the one in the picture that you sent. However, there are enough correspond ing details to support the possibility that the car is on the small chassis of the Isotta-Fraschini of that period, i.e., 1907-1909. As an aid to further checking, we believe that running the picture in the HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE would 10 perhaps lead to reader verification of the above identification Ruedu or result in another conclusion. Bai)quieP Paris DUTCH HCCA MEMBER NEEDS INFORMATION ABOUT HIS 1909 DELAHA YE Sir: I possess a Delahaye, type 32, motor number 425(0?). March 1907 advertisement for the Delahaye. Nine different size In my opinion this car dates from 1909. However, I doubt if chassis were offered. Most bodies were custom built, rarely two the body is original. Enclosed you will find a design of the alike. car in question. I should very much appreciate if you can supply me further information about this type. If this would t 0 not be possible, could you mention me a person who is the __Q owner of such a car, respectively an authority that can give ::; me the information I want. - M. M. H. Lips Grotestraat 62 Drunen, Holland ,gE 0 CARROSSERIE ...] A large Delahaye formal limousine shown at the 1907 Paris Sa lon. SIDE Vlli.\N 1909 Delahaye 9-11 H.P. 4 cylinder with 62mm x 100mm bore and stroke. r='•'o-=--1 !,J ••• ' ..3_ mkn-,.:~-FT ~,.,.--.:.J . FRON'T VUW MURI<: OlMt::NSio"'" ToP Vl E w e Your letter of August 7th to the Horseless Carriage Club of America has been forwarded to me for reply. I assume that your Delahaye has a maker's rating of 12/16 HP with a four-cylinder 1.9 litre motor having a bore and stroke of 75 x 110 m/m and L-head monobloc construction. If details of your motor are different please send me the correct data. I do not seem to have in my files a picture of a Delahaye Type 32 nor can I find listed an owner of such a car in this country. However, it is possible that a reader of the HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE can help you out when your letter is published in that journal. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 53 The left side of the 9-11 H.P. Delahaye engine. The right side of the 9-11 H .P. Delahaye engine. The 9-11 H.P. Delahaye controls and dash equipment. The rear view of the 9-11 H .P. De Iahaye chassis. Note the rear view of the roadster ahead. CHASSIS REMAINS IDENTIFIED AS A RARE BUICK Dear Mr. Leon, Los Gatos, Cal.: Thanks to the eagle eye of GAZETTE reader Dan Baumgarten, your chassis pictured on pages 45 and 46 of the May-June 1969, issue has been identified as being from a 1907 Buick ModelS Runabout. The Model S along with the Model D Touring Car were offered by Buick in 1907 and 1908. During the two years, less than 1700 of the two models together were built. You may have the only remains of a Model S still in existence. At least, not one is listed in the ANTIQUE CAR REGISTER for 1961 or 1968 nor do I have in my Buick file any pictures of a restored Model S. Enclosed are photo-copies of five references on the Model S. The first four of these provided the basis for the final verification of Mr. Baumgart's identification. The fifth item is a sketch made by Mr. Baumgart of the unusual Model S. engine which had cylinders cast separately. Though Mr. 54 Plan view of the Model-S Buick chassis. Baumgart does not have a Buick Model S, he has a number of other early Buick models. The originals of the five photo-copies are as follows: "0 1. Car Engine Data, 1904-1910, Buick Motor Company 0 2. CYCLE AND AUTOMOBILE TRADE JOURNAL 0s: 3. THE HORSELESS AGE, January 16, 1907, pages 80 1ii UJ"' and 81 .:,/. 4. 1907 Buick Model S from a color print u - ~ 5. Sketch of a Model S engine made by Mr. Baumgart If you care to consult further with Don Baumgart his $:"' 0 address is 413 N. Green River Road, Evansville, Indiana c 47711. .g u - Dr. Alfred S. Lewerenz .S! 0 u Q) -E Ee LL The Modei-H touring car and the Modei-K roadster was equipped with this planetary two speed transmission, which constituted the only difference between the Modei-D touring car and the Model-S roadster. 1907 Model-S four cylinder T -head Buick engine in unit with the sliding gear transmission. According to the late J. Frank Duryea, the Buick powerplant was a copy of his Stevens Duryea. (Editor) Dear Dr. Lewerenz: I'd like to thank you and David Rait for your time and assistance in the identification of my 1907 Model S buick. Thanks also to the editor of HCG and to John Baumgart who I will contact personally. A feeling of surprise and relief was my first reaction. However, I must admit that I have mixed emotions about the identity of the Model S Buick; happy because it's a Buick, a car which I much admire; sad because it may be so rare that I may be HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 55 ' MODELS "S" AND "K" and Model S. Roadster had transmissions of the sliding gear Owing to the demand for a high grade mnabout we now offer models "S" type. and "K.'' These <•ars, while they embody many of the mechanical features of 3. In the cases of the Roadsters K and S, the selective our four cylinder touring cars, are of a spec·ial design. :Model "S" is equipped planetary transmission cost $500 more though in other with a sliding gear transmission, gh·ing. three speeds forward and re,·erse; details the two models appeared to be the same. model "K" with a seleetiYe type planetary tmnsmission, giving two speeds forward and n .• ve1-se. 4. There are no Buick 4-cylinder models for 1907 listed in the 1968 REGISTER OF ANTIQUE AUTOMOBILES. The body has the appearan<·e of a scmi-ra(·er, and has long graceful lines. 5. Enclosed are photo-copies of pages 11-13 from a 1907 A notieeahlc feature of these cars is their easy riding qualities. This is due not <1nly t<; the wheel base which is lOll inches long (or 4 inches longer Buick catalog which give specifications for the T-Head than the wheel base on our four-cylinder touring cars), but also to the excep four-cylinder cars. tionally fine springs and to the fact that the rider is not seated over the rear Perhaps with some publicity for your 1907 Buick axle, hut is pla<·ed in a piYotal position between the fmnt and rear axles, four-cylinder chassis, needed parts will be turned up. where the greatest case of riding is to he obtained. Certainly so rare a chassis would seem worth preserving . Both models are handsomely finished in French gray, the striping being . . . done in a dclieatc green. The upholstering is of selected leather and an extra fine quality of curled hair. The seal' are extremely easy aitd hold the O<·cu ROLLS-ROYCE SILVER GHOST TOUR pants firmly, CWJl m·er the roughest roads. Skilled auto mechanic Martin Forrer of Elizabethtown, Pa., traded his tool box for a watering can recently to care for the world's most valuable car - the 1907 Silver Ghost Rolls-Royce - on a two-week tour of the Eastern United States. His most important job to keep the $200,000 dowager of the automotive world purring along contentedly was to water her wheels daily to swell the wood so the screws holding the spokes wouldn't work loose and puncture the tubes. Forrer, an employee of Universal Tire Company of Elizabethtown, was chosen to give up his coveralls for a waterproof apron because his company is the sole U.S. distributor of the Dunlop Cord antique car tires that fit the Silver Ghost. According to Stanley J. Panek of Dunlop's The 1907 f.aur cylinder T-head Buick roadster. The same roadster Buffalo, New York, office, only three women in the body was also available with a planetary two speed gear, designated company's Birmingham, England, plant still build the out as the Modei-K. size, high-pressure beaded edge tires required for antique Rolls-Royces. unable to restore it. Again, thanks for the assistance. Aside from the wheel watering, the Silver Ghost, and her - Henry A. Leon entourage of 18 other vintage Rolls-Royces owned by Los Gatos, Calif. 95030 England's 20 Ghost club, needed Forrer's skill only for e Since writing you on July 17 about the identification routine servicing on a 1 ,000 mile good will tour of as a 1907 Buick Model S Runabout of the chassis pictured on Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, Delaware and Wash pages 45 and 46 of the HORSELESS CARRIAGE ington, D.C. GAZETTE, Editor Everett Miller 'and I have done some Dennis Miller-Williams of London, the only man author further research into the car. Our joint findings include the ized to drive the Silver Ghost on her tour, said that despite following items: the half-million miles on her odometer, the car can travel at 1. According to the Buick Motor Co. CAR AND 55 miles an hour - faster than she could go when new. He ENGINE DATA of which I sent you a photo-copy of page 1, credited the increased performance to better maintenance there were four models using the four-cylinder motor chassis and better roads and tires. in 1907. "She's a swinger," Forrer confirmed, "but like any 62 2. Model H Touring and Model K Roadster had a year old girl who is constantly on the go, she feels good at selective planetary type of transmission. Model D Touring the end of the day when she can stop and soak her feet." 56 ------Paint Stripper Oakite has a bulletin F789e that will help in selecting the type of paint stripper you should use for different types of finishes. Often it is almost impossible to remove a finish ·------~ with a normal paint remover. This bulletin will give you the information necessary to select the right one. Write Oakite Products Inc.- 46A Rector, New York City, N.Y. Rust Removal A new chemical rust remover has been introduced by Bradford Park Corporation which is harmless to the skin, non-flammable, and has no noxious fumes. It is available in YOUR REPAIR AND RESTORATION SUGGESTIONS liquid or paste form and will not harm paint, plastic, fabrics, WILL BE APPRECIATED BY rubber or wood and may be used on non-ferrous metals as Vaun E. Rodgers well. This allows a dipping of assemblies consisting of 407 Lombardy~ El Paso, Texas 79922 non-ferrous materials. Because the material is not of the usual phosphoric or ~------~ previous article. This material soaks into the rotted area and hydrochloric base, dipped parts can be left for any reason hardens and strengthens the area. Filling the holes eliminates able time without fear of over-application. Neutralizing is not places of moisture retention and more rot. Nail holes may be necessary. For information, see your jobber or write the B. P. driven with a prick punch through the sheet metal which Corporation, 7 Tamarick Lane, Elnora, New York. counter sinks the metal and secures it to the wood. Nails should be drive type which have long spiral flutes, or barbed. Combustion Leaks If these are not available, use cement coated nails which hold A sure way to check head gasket leaks as well as cracked better than common type. heads, blocks, etc., as far as combustion gases are concerned has been developed. Screws will hold better than nails and should be used on A tool consisting of a rubber cone which fits into your any structural support area. A good practice, rather than radiator filler neck is attached to a clear plastic cylinder. This counter sinking the screw head in the thin sheet metal which in turn has a rubber bulb screwed to the top, a chameleon enlarges the hole for the head and removes solid material is type fluid is installed in the cylinder which is blue to start to countersink the metal with a punch ground to the angle of with. It is sensitive to combustion gases to the extent that the screw head. This locates the metal in the wood and when air in which combustion gas is present is drawn through maintains the sheet metal thickness. Countersinking the it by the rubber bulb, the liquid turns yellow. After the test, back-up material with a brace and bit may help form the drawing unpolluted air through the liquid restores the blue sheet metal when driving with a punch. Coat the wood with color. paint before adding sheet metal to eliminate possible rot areas. (See sketch I & II.) With the tool, you can, using your imagination, check which bank of a V type engine is leaking or which cylinder of a block has a leak. Pulling the right spark plug wires gives the answer. P & G Mfg. Co., 300 Jackson Tower, Portland, Oregon, 97205 has the tool - SE1997- Bloc- Chek Kit and the liquid. Your local truck service center may have a unit and will make the check for a nominal charge. Carburetor Float Round, doughnut type floats such as those used on 12 Securing Sheet Metal Overlands may have a substitute in the Cushman float part When replacing sheet metal panels to wood framework, 111984 which is used on the OBM engine. This metal consider the following for permanent repairs. Try to work in doughnut may be reworked to fit Sch e bier Model I and 0 wood that is solid by moving the nails or screw holes. and others. You should check the I. D. of this float however Always fill the unused holes with filler and treat any rotted before buying as the float is small and may not be big enough area with a reconditioner such as Calig:num mentioned in a to fit the obstructions in your carburetor. ~ HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 57 Current Restorations LIST INGS FOR THIS DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE SENT TO: DEADLINES Ceci l Frye 140 N. Bridge Street December First for the JAN-FEB issue San Gabriel, Cal. 91775 February First for the MAR-APR issue SEND DETAILS OF EACH CAR ON A SEPARATE POST CARD IN April First for the MAY-JUNE issue THE SAME FORM USED ON THIS PAGE. SUBMIT NO OFTENER June First for the JULY-AUG issue THAN EVERY OTHER ISSUE. BE SURE TO INCLUDE YOUR CUR RENT HCCA MEMBERSHIP CARD NUMBER. LIMIT NEEDS TO August First for the SEPT-OCT issue 20 WORDS. October First for the NOV-DEC issue MAKE YEAR CYLS. MODEL BODY MAKE YEAR CYLS. MODEL BODY BUGA TTl 1937 Grand Prix FRANKLIN 1926 6 cyl. 11 A ______Boattail Needed: Oil and air pressure guage, hand air pump, tach Needed: Original % turn gas tank cap. Serial number plate ometer, rear shock absorber assembly and pair of 175MM with instructions that goes onto firewall under hood. Cor (7") Marshall head lamps. Top prices paid. rect running board moulding; 3 rib %" aluminum. Stop Lite Dave Allison, 2013 S. Beverly Glen Blvd., Los Angeles, lens. Calif. 90025 (213) 474-6105 Emerson Clave!, Box 98, Wauchula, Fla. 33873 BUICK 1907 2 cyl. Model "F" ______Touring HOLS•MAN 1907-1 0? 2 cyl. Model K .. Runabout Needed: Front cylinder and jacket or engine, complete top Needed: Two friction chains, rear wheel sheaves (pulleys), with bows and irons. nameplate for tool box. Buggy is fully restored except for R. C. Sprague, Jr., Williamstown, Mass. 01267 these parts. BUICK 1908 2 cyl. Model F Ben Bronk, Watson's Bay N.S.W., Australia Needed: Front springs, spring hangers, exhaust manifold, OLDSMOBILE 1904 1 cyl. ------Runabout hub caps, muffler, rear hub, wheels other parts. Needed: Literature, manual, sales brochure, pictures, or any Gary Doty, 1133 Osage, Augusta, Kansas 67010 information on this car. BUICK 1928 6 Mod 27 .. _.. ______.4 Dr. Sedan Foster Fike, 737 W. Main S(, Somerset, Pa. 15501 Needed: Sunvisor brackets, radiator cap, radiator shell, body OLDSMO'BILE 1912 4 cyl. Defender Model Touring parts book, shop manual ( 1927), other literature, pr. mint Needed: Windshield assembly, top, Dragon bulb horn, #1208 Calif. matching tags. Castle gas headlamps, #220 Castle tail lamp, manual or lit John Peddicord, 150 D St., Tustin, Calif. 92680 erature. CADILLAC 1906 4 cyl. Model "H" ______Touring Tom Martindale, 4325 Nova Dr., Santa Cruz, Calif. 95060 Needed: Original carburetor, governor. PIERCE ARROW Bicycle circa 1917 R. S. Sprague, Jr., Williamstown, Mass. 01267 Needed: Restoring a basket case and need to know appear CADILLAC 1912 4 cyl. ------Touring ance details. A picture would be worth a thousand words. Needed: Differential, wheels and rims, operator's manual. Bob Gegen, 5221 N.W. 5th St., Miami, Fla. 33126 B. L. Birchall, 16 Lewis St., Blockhouse Bay, Auckland, REO 1912 4 cyl. ------Speedster New Zealand Needed: Rear fenders or patterns, tail lite, speedometer, CASE 1916 4 cyl. Model 4-40 ______Touring rear bucket seats. Needed: Floor accelerators, carburetor, tail light assembly C. A. Conaway, 1002 Sacramento, San Antonio, Tex. 78201 complete, any operating or maintenance manuals. REO 1925 Model T6 Series C Duane Wainwright, Spring Creek Nat. Fish Hatchery, Needed: Water pump, hood latches, 5th edition owners' Underwood, Wash. 98651. manual, parts book, mechanics book, information. DODGE 1915 4 cyl. ------Touring Alfred E. Thunelius, 172 Throop St., West Babylon, N.Y. Needed: Emergency brake complete, Bezel for speedometer 11704 (thumb button type) , battery indicator (not ammeter), en SIMPLEX, CRANE 1915 6 cyl. Model 5 .... Phaeton gine mounted air pump, front hub and hub cap for 25" Needed: Carburetor, muffler, Bosch ZR6 dual mag., speed knock-off wire wheels, low radiator and shell, brake rods, ometer drive, engine splash pans, tire pump, luggage rack, door knobs gas cap, rear foot rail, 2 head light rings (clip bumpers, tail light. Names of present and former Crane type), priming cocks, grease cups, muffler/muffler pipe model owners. (plans?), rearview mirror, Eisemann switch and key, glove Harrison P . Bridge, 50 Fernwood Rd., Chestnut Hill, box key and lock. Mass. 02167 Harley Pulliam, 329 Camellie Way, Modesto, Calif. 95351 STANDARD 1922 Model 98 V8 ------7 Pas. Sedan FORD 1911 4 ------Touring Needed: Pair headlights, clock, front bumper, radiator shell, Needed: E & J or John Brown tail lamp, Kingston five-ball parking lights, or lenses, inside window and door handles, o~ Holley ( #4150) carb. manual. Correspondence with owners of similar cars. Dr. V. F. Heinemann, 200 Richard St., Hot Springs, Ark. Nat Adelstein, 1776 Calhoun St., Trenton, N.J. 08638 71901 ·fORD 1915 4 cyl. Model T ______Speedster STAR 1925 Model F ------Roadster Needed: Body parts, rear springs, seats, top irons, brake Needed: Left front fender, seats, 30 x 3 tires and tubes, rods. 3 to 1 gears, lowering parts, reproduction booklet on care Don Nelson, 30 Seward Ave., Springfield, Oregon 97477 and adjustment of Ruckstell. John MacSweeney, 470 Straits Tpke., Watertown, Ct. STUDEBAKER 1914 SC Four ------Touring 06795 Needed: Schebler Carburetor Model R, Gray & Davis head lights, sidelights, original handbook, any information, etc. -·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-Something to Remember • • • • • Bryce F. Craze, 6 Wood Road, Griffith, N .S.W., Australia About gasoline: In case of fire do not try to put it out WHITE 1911 4 cyl.-gas Needed: any type of body, fenders, windshield, spare tire with water for the burning gasoline will float and spread the carrier, lamps. fire, Dykes Encyclopedia, 1914. Edgar H. Baird, 3150 Louis Rd., Palo Alto, Calif. 94303 58 General Requirements Restrictions (1) Members: one ad of about 50 words free each issue. (1) The classified adverti sing section is limited to the Photo, $1.00. exchange of noncommercial items. Persons selling or (2) Nonmembers: $6.00 for a 50-word ad. producing automobiliana on a business basis are con Photo, $4 .00 extra. sidered commercial advertisers and must use Display ads or th e Service Directory. Write for rates. (3) Payment must accompany all ads. (2) Persons requiring ads longer than the standard 50- (4) Ads should be submitted on an ordinary postcard; word group, or who require special typography or space, print clearly or typewrite in the form of ads you must use Di splay space; write for information on rates. see below. Notice (5) Write your membership card number at the top of th e postca rd, and state whether ad is For Sale, While every effort is made to assure accuracy, neither Swap or Wanted. the Gazette staff nor the HCCA can be held accountable for misleading or unclear statements in ads. In the event (6) Ads offering a car fo r sale must include the price. of typographical errors, responsibility to the advertiser (7) Ads are accepted for one insertion only. cannot extend beyond agreement to publish a corrected (8 ) Photos (1 per ad) should be black-white glossies. insertion. HORSELESS CARRIAGE CLUB OF AMERICA • 9031 E. FLORENCE AVE. • DOWNEY, CALIFORNIA 90240 ~------...() ~ () ~()~(}~()~()~()~ ( )~(}411------·~ FOR SALE 1932 HARLEY DAVIDSON motor cycle $2 75.00. Prouty & 1923 STUDEBAKER Coupe. Needs pain t. original upholstery Glass pie wagon body (circa. 1908-14) $285.00. Small race car is usabl e, runs good, spare engine, rear end, transmission body similar to one man fronty $75.00. 1 pr. 1912 Ford mar with less than 10,000 ori gin a l mil es, $1200 . 1951 MG-TD touring fenders $45.00 . Rear windscreen for large touring ROADSTER. Good original condition, body very good, runs $65 .00. Nyle Reed, 1111 E. Pontiac, Fresno, Calif. 93704. good, needs upholstering, $900.00. G. K. Hirtel, 418 Carolina Street, Vallejo, California 94590. POCKET WATCHES for sale. Choose from my private col lection the watch you like best to wear at meets or on tours. 1923 BUICK Taming, 4-cyl. , runs good $1500. 1948 Anglia, For detailed descriptions send a self addressed envelope to ori ginal $450. Two early 1928 Ford wheels, $10 each. Four Joel Feldman, 3256 Butler Ave., Los Ange les, Cali f. 90066 or wire 1927 Ford wheels, $10 each. One nice carbide search phone area code (213) 837-027:1 . li ght on mounting fork, complete except burner. Make offer. Don Ellison, 2014 40th St., Lubbock, Texas 79412. 1957 ELDORADO BROUGHAM, Series 70 Cadillac. Stainless Steel Top, aluminum bumpers and wheels, two 4-barrel car HUBCAPS, Late 20's and early 30's-Stude, Chev, Auburn, buretors. Origina l price over $13, 000. Excell ent original con Buick, Olds, LaSalle, Graham, Hupp, Chrysler, Dodge, Reo, dition $31 00 with service manual and some spare parts. Hudson, Terraplane, Velie, Willys, Nash, Erskine, Austin, Phone (714) 745-1608. Lee Uran, 701 So. Juniper St.. Escon etc. Sketch, dimensions and SASE please. 1935 Stude radi dido, Cali fo rnia 92025. ator cap, bird in oval ring, $36.50. Model A Ford trans. $35. Irvin Blonder, 1119 W . Orange Grove, Burbank, Calif. 91502. 1938 MERCEDES 540 KA Cabrolet. New maroon paint, top, leather upholstery and tires. Super charged. Received 91.75 '23 STUTZ Sedan, ori gin al, 1 owner, drive anywhere $3500. points at 1969 Grand Classic. Price $14,5 00. James H. South Blackhawk coupe $1500 . Early Caddy-8 lamps. Fur driving ard , 440 South Central Avenue, Marshfield, Wisconsin 54449. coat. Wire wheels. Stutz, Roll s Royce, Franklin parts. Pack Phone (715 ) 384-3178 or (715) 887-1 034 . a rd 29 radiator, '3 1 rds tr top, others. '13 Buick, '14 Packard lamps, others. Speedster gas tank, seat. New , used tires, 1915 WHITE TRUCK MOTOR. Radiator in very good condi most sizes 28x3-35x4'/z , low prices. AK Mill er, Montclair, tion. All other parts complete and restorable. $200.00. Elsa New Jersey. Imhoff, 2002 Colton Blvd .. Billings. Montana 591 02. 1937 PACKARD Model 115C 6 cy l. 4-door Sedan. Rebuilt 1936 ALVIS SPEED '25'-special two door touring body by engine. New bumper chrome, headliner, seat covers, no Charlesworth ; fi ne example of this Engli sh Classic-excellent dents or rust. Like new tires. Good paint (Packard green] . order. Price $2,900 . 1939 Amilcar / DelaHaye two door sports Asking $850.00. C. W. Felker, 928 Victoria Dr., Arcadia, Cal. saloon ; Rare Classic in excell ent condition. Price $1400. 91006. Phone (213) 447-7503. Prices include shipping; full de tail s and photo from: 4, Deeping Road. Baston. Peterborough. No rthants. ENGLAND. 1916 4 CYLINDER CONTINENTAL motor and transmission, 4'/z" bore, Motor No. 18296-E, $250. One Continental motor PAIR OF BLUE CUT-GLASS opera side lamps- oil, with and transmission, Motor No. 66938-N, 3% " bore, $250. One side spade mountings ; about 4'h" square. Price $180.00 or Fageol truck radiator. George Stoddart, 2245 National Ave., nearest offer, postage and package free. 4, Deeping Road, San Di ego, California 9211::1 . Batson, Peterborough, No rthants, ENGLAND. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 59 FOR SAtE 1967 ROLLS ROYCE Silver Shadow, 4,000 actual miles, black lff'ld'F SILENT TIMING CHAINS~~ pearl, lovely red hide interior, AM-FM radio, air conditioned, one owner, still in warranty, will take trade, show room Custom Made To Original Specifications condition, absolutely new. Richard G. Gold, 8607 Westmore Write for full information ,_ ~ land Lane, Minneapolis, Minn. 55426. (612) 544-1904. RAMSEY PRODUCTS CORPORATION ~~~ 1922 FORD COUPE, recent complete authentic restoration 724 Gesco St. Tel.: 704 376-6477 to:! ~ from bare frame up. Excellent closed tour car with electric Charlotte, North Carolina 28208 starter, ruckster, rocky mountain brakes and many acces sories. AACA Winner. See photos vintage Ford Sept./ Oct. 1932 BUICK 50 series Coupe, unrestored, made into pick-up 1968 pages 7 thru 18, $2500. Dave Ayers, 119 Estates Drive, $195. Excellent Stav engine $45. 1920 National V-1 2 Chassis. Santa Cruz, California 95060. (408) 423-8076. We need any parts for 1907-08 Thomas Detroit. M. G. John son, 266 Orange Ave., Patterson, California 95363 . 1937 LINCOLN Convertible $3500; 1938 Cadillac V-16 Sedan $4000;1953 Lincoln Cosmopolitan Sedan $750;1939 Ford Con 30 MODERN and obselete Automobile name plates $100. H. vertible $750; 1930 Ford Roadster $1,000; 1930 Ford Sedan L. Jennison, 1561 S. E. Linn St., Portland, Oregon 97202. $750; 1950 Ford Six Sedan $400; 1940 Ford Sedan $1000; 1954 1938 BUICK SPECIAL, 4-door sedan, color brown. Runs well Imperial Sedan $750. Dr. Teu, II. [area code 703) 836-0401. and is in excellent condition. $1,200. Francis L. McReynolds, 1911 FORD Torpedo Roadster chassis finished with all new 475 Flower Avenue, Santa Rosa, California 95405. parts. Engine bored to Model "A" size (3.875") all new parts 4-27" WHEELS and 2 rim sets, one wheel good, 3 need com incl. crank shaft con rods, valves, trans. gears. Engine not plete wood replacement, $175. Jim Walker, Fossil, Ore. 97830. assembled. Original upholstery in body. All parts to com plete. More details for S.A.E. $2000. Ray Hove, 5606 Clinton NEW, OLD STOCK ENGINE Gaskets, teens to forties, write Avenue, Minneapolis, Minnesota 55419. n eeds giving accurate information as to make, model and year. SSAE please. Wanted: Lincoln literature of all types. CYCLOPEDIA of Automobile Engineering 1920 Edition 6 vol Give accurate description including price and condition in umes; Automobile Ignition, Starting, & Lighting 1924 Edition; first letter. Harrison P. Bridge, 50 Fernwood Road, Chestnut The Model T Ford Car by Page 1918 Edition; The Gasoline Hill, Massachusetts 02167. Automobile 1920 Edition; Automobile Ignition, Starting and Lighting 1924 Edition; The Gasoline Automobile 1920 Edi 1932 GRAHAM PAIGE 4 door sedan, complete with trunk. tion; S.A.E. Handbook 1933 Edition; Pre WWII VW Sales Good restorable condition. All glass good including head Lit. All in outstanding .condition. Write for full details. All lamps and taillight. Right and left fender mounted tires $550. inquiries answered. M. L. Edwards, Emerson 147-1001, Mex P. Alvin Zamba, RD #1, Freedom, Pa 15042. 774-7099. ico 5, D.F. MEXICO. 1913 BUICK Model 31. In good restored condition. Engine and transmission rebuilt, brakes relined. Body repainted in '68 BUICK Grey body, black fenders, dark blue wheels. Excellent PATTERN tour car $4,500. Ted Fox, 4640-U Street, Sacramento, Cali OR OLD fornia 95817, Phone (916) 456-8260. HEAD GASI(ET HORSELESS CARRIAGE CLUB GAZETTES. Starting Vol. 14 ~ R.EQUIR.ED #2 June 1952 through Vol. 30 #6 Dec. '68. 8 issues missing. All in mailing envelopes. Mint $95. 8 original 9 x 12, 15 page brochures, Doble Steam Cars. Specifications and detail of chassis, body design and equipment. 9 excellent illustrations. Q>PPER·ASBESTOS HEAD GASKETS Mint $5.00 each. W. R. Willan, 4610 MacArthur Blvd., Oak land, California 94619. OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY 1919 MODEL "TT" TRUCK, cute but not running, open to offers. Partly restored 1910 Pianolin nickelodeon with pipes §sket mfg. co. me. 319W. 17th St. Richmond 9A06) and mandoline-new rolls are available, priced way under Los Angeles,l5 market value. Other nickelodeons wanted and sometimes sold. F·. M. Rider, 1062 Alber, Wabash, Indiana 46992. AMERICAN LaFRANCE fire engine, 1922 pumper, not easily ORIGINAL FORD SERVICE BULLETINS 1934-1936, very good restored but mostly intact and good for parts. Located in Canton, Ohio. $200. May sell parts. Tim Elder, RR#1, Box condition. $2 each, post paid U.S.A. Rich Fischbach, 3040 376, Lockport, Illinois 60441. (815) 838-5208. El Caminito, La Crescenta, California 91214. E & J LIGHTS, a nice set [left side, right side and rear) all brass, $135. Dick Brown, 1520 Greenview Drive, La Habra, Put New Life~ Since1112 . California 90631. (213) OW. 7-2181. into those Priceless Early O 1~30 SPOR~SCOUPE, good paint, upholstery, new top, runs Model Cars UUl~.AliJY fme, good tires, no restoration needed, $850. 1931 Standard with ... Roadster, complete exception top bows, new paint and up holstery, runs good, $1395. 1931 Deluxe Roadster dual fender Jahns has been making custom pistons for the automotive wells, good upholstery and paint, new 19" tires, rebuilt industry practically from the time the horseless carriage Model B engine and a good running car, top bows less cov was introduced. If you have a piston problem that's keeping ering, $1850. Sheldon A. Greenland, 3761 Hillway Dr., Glen your antique in the garage, don't despair. Write our factory. dale, California 91208. Tel. (21~) 249-8344. --CURRENT RESTORATIONS-- 1914 MINERVA • LE RHONE 80 • 1926 BENTLEY 1905 FORD (2 cylinder) • 1912 CASE (4 cylinder) Mention the GAZETTE when wr it ing advert isers 2662 Lacy Street I Los Angeles, California 90031 Telephone: (213) 225·8177 or (213) 225·1568 60 FOR SALE $200 FOR THE BEGINNER. For vacation wages I took model "T" parts. Built myself a "T" roadster and have left over ooooooooooooo G A 5 K E T 5 enough parts for a complete "T" chassis. Come and get it need money and room. Chris Reimuller Jr., 9509 Oak Glen 0 000~000 0 FOR ALL ENGINES ~ Road, Cherry Valley, California 9222;3 .. Custom·made copper and asbestos cylinder head, manifold and ex haust gaskets for all makes and models of antique, foreign, racing, 1958 BMW 1 CYL ISETTA. Motor disassembled $200. Con rf.orine, Diesel and industrial equipment. Will need old gasket or sider trade on Jeepster or pre 1942 Willys pick-up. Gene pattern for sample. Whitney, 808 West 5th, Hutchinson, Kansas. ALSO We have available an assortment of new stock head and manifold 1915 STUDEBAKER Roadster, professionally restored, all ori gaskets for cars 1916 to 1948. State your needs; give make, model, ginal $3,500. Ralph C. Alter, 2632 N. 70th Street, Scottsdale, year of car, etc. Arizona 85251. HEAD GASKET COMPANY A 230 PIECE NAMEPLATE collection, all different, mounted C/0 Fred Stelli129 465 Bryant Street in six frames, $2,000. The following are all different, mounted Son Francisco, Cal ifornia PHoN< EXbraok 7·3111 in frames: 38 Pontiac $190; 45 Chrysler $225; 48 Ford $240; 45 Olds $225; 45 Dodge $225; 48 Plymouth $240; 40 Chevrolet 1929 WHIPPET Collegiate Roadster, dual side mounts, rumble $200. John F. Weis, 7237 Metropolitan Avenue, Middle seat, complete, unrestored, $2,000. Or offer. 1915 Ford jitney, Village, New York 11379. Rocky Mountain brakes, Ruckstell axle, a runner, $2,500. Want 1912 Auburn Parts. D. K. Gast, 1555 Murray Avenue, ...... a .. n't"fq"u"a ...... c"i"a"ffi"e"s"""""'·· El Cajon, California 92020. Phone: 714-447-5059. 1912·13 CHALMERS "36". Large touring in excellent condi FOR SALE: Antique clothing and accessories for tion. 4 speed transmission, functional air starter, 28" wheels, HCC functions. Suns. Dresses. Jewelry. Petticoats. Parasols. Blouses. Feathers. Buttons and Trimmings. side curtains and boot, right hand steering, combination kero sene and electric lights $7,500. Consider trade for open classic BOXES WILL BE SENT ON CONSIGNMENT TO RESPONSIBLE PARTIES. or earlier quality car in restored/unrestored condition. John 6 Bakich, 1097 W. Westfield Ave., Porterville, California 93257. MRS. EVELYN DOY ER ~t~ .~=: f.r~o!~· When in ScoHsdale, Arizona do visit "Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe" for 1928 CHEVROLET CABRIOLET, top goes down, rumble seat, all your Antique Clothing needs. 43 East First Avenue !Pima Plaza) disc wheels $895. 1930 Model "A" touring, complete but needs Tel.: 947-3062 restoration $1250. 1931 Chevrolet fire truck, pumper, dual tires, runs good $800. 1937 Packard model 120, 4 door con vertible. New top (not installed). Ralph Day, East Holden, 1935 NASH LA FAYETTE 2 dr. 5 new tires. No rust. Green, Main 04429, Tel. Eddington 207-843-6331. good original upholstery $600. Marty Natrop, 1007 E. Main Street, Little Chute, Wisconsin 54140, Phone 788-1116. 1929 FORD "A" Sport Roadster. Completely restored to mint condition 4 months ago. Has original trunk, rumble seat, 1896 HOLLEY AUTO BUGGY. One of only two made in windwings, fan shroud, etc. light green and black paint, new machine-blacksmith shop in New York area. Only 1 existing, upholstery, chrome, top. Must be seen to appreciate. $2700 unbelievable original, 1 cyl chain drive, believed to be oldest includes many extra parts. Tom Martindale, 4325 Nova Dr., U. S. made auto, outside museum. First $5500 takes. Photos Santa Cruz, California 95060. (408) 475-4039. $1.00 in color, Phone 305-889-2921 or 299-0297. 1953 KAISER Manhattan Sedan. Good body, no rust, no 1911 MERCER Touring car gas tank $25. 1912 Hudson Radi dents, no broken glass-$300. Joseph H. Dias, 11460 16th ator, Hood, and former $100. Pair of 1913-14 Ford-Brown 110 Ave., Lemoore, California. Phone 582-4680. sidelamps with matching tailamps $75. Four 24 inch split rims $40. Large round gas tank with big center filler $25. All items HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTES from March 1955 thru F.O.B. Prof. Cain, Texas Tech. Lubbock, Texas. 1968 except 2 in '55. $48.00 F.O.B.-clean and like new, 81 issues. 1 Packard hub cap, 71/z" opening, $1.00. R. Miller, CAR TRUNK. Nice condition. Black with chrome trim. Says 4140 Edison Avertue, Sacramento, California 95821. Packard Motor Car Co., Detroit, Michigan. Rounded top, measures 18 in. deep, 36 in. long, 22 in. high. $95. Fisler, 2557 1929 FORD Roadster Pickup, in good unrestored condition, Huffstatler, Fallbrook, California 92028. $1000 or best offer. Also 1939 Plymouth convertible in good unrestored condition, $1175 or best offer. Both cars drive FORD June 1928 Chassis, matched engine and frame A172519 able and titled. Richard Moeller, 2902 Center Point Rd. N.E., as pictured in figure 13 in "A" Instruction Book and original Cedar Rapids, Iowa 52402. except: wheels, generator, cutout, shocks, wiring, emergency brake rods, running board brackets.· Drive line free. $100. FOR SALE Dugan, 4460 Midas Ave., Rocklin, California 95677. 1928 STUTZ Black Hawk four door touring car in LARGE ACCORDIAN LUGGAGE RACK $15.00; 1919 Ford complete and original condition. Completely re model "T" Radiator cover $10.00; Two Ford Model "A" stored throughout and in very good running order, Bumpers, incomplete, $5.00 each; Ford model "A" wing new tyres, new paint etc. A truly outstanding ex window, $5.00; 1935 or 1936 Hubcap with center lock for ample of this rare car. £2,250. 0. 0. spare tire. $10.00. Alfred L. Fifield, 3982 Edwards Ave., Oak ROLLS ROYCE-a collection of genuine low mile land, California 94605, 632-0398. age Rolls Royce cars available for sale. Touring AUDELS AUTO GUIDE book $7.50. The Buffalo Motorist cars including Silver Ghost, Phantom I's, Phantom 1910-Dec. $3.00, Auto Wireing Diagrams 1927 $4., Auto II's and Phantom III's. All cars in exceptional con Chasses 1923 $4., Auto Power Plants 1923 $4., Use and Abuse dition. Write for details. of Auto 1912 $4., Brooks Auto Handbook 1908 $10. Auto Es PETER BREWER DEVELOPMENTS sentials 1938 $6., Internal Combustion Engines 1942 $5., Auto Station Road Wilmslow, Cheshire, U.K. Digest 1926 issues $2.50 ea., 1937 Olds Shop manuel $9.00, Telephone Wilmslow 27100 others. Sam Sherman, 88-08 32nd Ave., East Elmhurst, New York 11369. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 &1 FOR SALE P-Ill ROLLS ROYCE (1937) V-12 dual ignition 5 pass. sun roof sedan with division. 69,000 miles, 64,000 RR maintained. Upholstery, chassis, chrome good. 3rd owner drove car only 45 miles. $3850. E. R. Baker, Rt. 4, Box 176, Sumter, S. C. 29150. (Wanted: cycle car). 1936 BUICK PHAETON convertible with sidemounts-unre stored. Good condition, includes new w.w. tires, 7 skins original tanned leather, new canvas and carpet, $1500. 1913 Cadillac clock, excellent. 1940 Buick front end with. side mounts limited. Bob Rife, 4329 Polk St., Omaha, Nebraska 68107. (402) 734-2324. 1922 MODEL "T" Ford Touring. Completely restored. Eng. & Trans. Prof. rebuilt and balanced. All original. Must part with for another antique. Mechanically excellent, looks sharp. $1850. Chris Chiearidas, Jr., 8265 W. 4th St., Los An geles, California 90048 (213) 653-7546. THIS BEAUTIFUL HORSE DRAWN 1881 Holloway chemical wagon about 98% restored. Only 15 of these were built. $4900 F.O.B. or will take partial trade. Can finance. Louis Izydore, 838 W. Grant Ave., Duquesne, Pa. 15110. Phone (412) 466-1535. Please, no collect calls. Color pictures avail able at $1.00 each. 1929 HUDSON Super Six Victoria Coupe. 21,000 miles, wire wheels, dual sidemounts. Biddle & Smart body. Needs paint and upholstery. A large appealing car with new top, landau irons and large rear trunk, some parts, $1100. Pies 50c. J. J. Beach, 3452 Jordan St., Rohnerville, Calif. 95540. BENTLEY 1929 41/z LITRE with replica V.D.P. body. Blue/ dark blue with grey leather upholstery. Completely and superbly rebuilt by specialists in 1968, $10,800. Only serious inquiries for details and history write M. L. Murphy, 13 Beaumont Street, Oxford, England. 1914 CANADIAN MODEL "T" Station Wagon. Complete res toration 1968. Nothing spared. Fine Family, Tour or Fun Car. Go anywhere. Beautiful paint. Also would make good adver tising car for Motel, Business or Hunting and Fishing Lodge. Firm $3,500. Phone (209) 634-7019 after 6:00 P.M. Jess C. Blaker, 1000 Johnson Road, Turlock, California 95380. 1931 DESOTO Roadster. Complete, restorable, in good run ning condition. 6 cylinder engine, 4 wheel hydraulic brakes, free wheeling transmission, $1825. Walter A. Lockwood, 3217 San Pasqua! St., Pasadena, Calif. 91107. Phone 792-7057. NEW, NEVER USED Covered Express Body for Model T Ford, Mahogany, Completely Upholstered, $445.00 F.O.B., Crated. Have a new Runningboard Carbide Generator, solid brass, polished, lacquered, mint condition, no age-cracks or dents, $80.00 prepaid. Polaroids, 35c. AI Davis, Box 2060C-RI, Apache Junction, Arizona 85220. Phone (602) 982-2041. 1930 "A" FORD Cabriolet. Very good condition, rebuilt en gine, new tires, $800. 1922 Model T center door body parts. Both ~eft and right doors with glass, $30.00. Side panels and rear window metal, $15.00. Front seats, $25.00. Bob Pauliny, 3123 E. Poppy St., Long Beach, Calif. 90805. (213) 638-5906. 1934 S.S. TWO TOURER (Jaguar), very rare collector's car in excellent running condition and restoration, very sporty, comfortable and fun to drive anywhere. Complete informa tion available upon inquiry. Best offer over $2500. J. Charles Dergins, 4059 Weymouth Drive, S.E ., Grand Rapids, Mich. 49507. Tele. (616) 245-7347 or 245-9780. 1953 PACKARD Caribbean white convertible straight 8. Nict:J white and black leather, all chrome 15" wire . wheels, power top & windows, new extra windshield in crate, $500 spent on motor and brake cylinders, lots of rubber, needs brake shoes. $3250 with $1000 down, rest in 1970 or consider '31 Ford side mount roadster in trade. Eldon Neibling, 730 N.W. 35th Street, Topeka, Kansas 66617. 62 FOR SALE FOR SALE 1932 V·12161A Auburn Phaeton. Completely restored from bumper to bumper. Everything NEW including paint, tires, engine, uphol stery, chrome, etc. Only known comp letely restored V-12 phaeton in the country. Authentically restored. Price $28,500. Will take unrestored Auburn in trade. Interested parties contact Carl Hahn, Phone (415) 349-3238 or Mort Kresteller (415) 474-7736. Brass Conduit 1/4" and 5/16" $1.00 ft. Asbestos Exhaust pipe covering for 2" and 2%" Exhaust pipe $1.35 ft. Packard Side mount mir rors for spare tires $,75.00 pr. with bracket. Water pump packing all sizes $2.50 per set, state size needed. Clutch and Brake Pedal Pads for pedals 2V2 "x3V2" and 2'14 "x3'!4" $2.75 each. Hood Lacing Flat & Channell 40c ft. Trippe light wrenches $2.50 1927 AMERICAN LA FRANCE Pumper Restored Model 91 each, trippe light bolts (long) 50c each. Rebuilt startix $40.00 with large hose, small hose, nozzles, ax, ladder, crowbar, charge. Gas & Oil Gauge Fluid Red & Green $2.25 each. Bijur red light, spot light, siren, 12" bell, hose reel, extra coup Jars (chrome) $11.00 when ordering please add in a reasonable lings, duals. Runs well. An antique or working fire truck, amount for postage and insurance. Calif. res idents add in 5% $2200 or trade for foreign vintage sports, classic, or what Sales Tax. Auburn parts for all models 1931-1936, 8 & U-12 cy l. have you? Paul E. Hatmon, 11306 Thompson, Independence, Will sell, buy or swap. MORT KRESTELLER Missouri 64050. P.O. Box 15426, Sta. A, San Francisco, Calif. 94115 NEW 6:50x20" TIRE $25.; pair used 6:50x18" tires $10. new (~1fi} 474-77Cl6 5:50x17" and 5:50x18" tires $15. each or 4 for $50.; used llllllllllllll!lllll l l\!lllllllllllllllltllllllli 'U II!IImiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i ii i iii i i i iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i iiiiiiiiiiiiii i iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i iOUI IIII!I IIIIIl l l llllllllllllllllll 5 :25x5 :50x18" tires $3. each or 4 for $10., used tubes for same ''''''''''''''''''''''''"'''"'''''''"""""''" "'""'''''''''''""''''''' '''''''"'"'''''"'''"" ' " ""'''''''''''"''''''''''''''"'''''' ' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''" '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''" ''''''''"''''' ' "'""'"''"'"'"'''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''"'''''''''''''" $1.50 each. Some old number plates to sell or trade. Shipping extra. Pictures $1.00, SASE. Hurlburt, 27 West St., Green field, Mass. 01:101. SWAP 1912 TORPEDO ROADSTER, Price $2,500. firm. Marvin Young, P.O. Box 35, Matteson, Ill. 60443. Phone (312) 748-6563. CLOVERLEAF TYPE BUCKET SEATS. Circa 1918, 1919 Reo Speedwagon parts, 1921 Pierce Arrow rear end, front end, etc. Front fenders. Misc. seat cushions, 25" Baker split rim, 23" and 25" Kelsey one piece rim, 25" one piece Firestone rims. 30 x 31/2 all wood Firestone rear wheel and rim. Harold M. Gilbert, 15 Jefferson Street, Dansville, N. Y. 14437. SLEEVE TYPE RECORDS for 1890 thru 1910. Edison Phono graph, many selections, some by famous artists of that period $5.00 each. Donald H. Dunn, !Hl Vance Jackson Rd., San Antonio, Texas 78201. 1930 KJ HENDERSON MOTORCYCLE for open car. Runs good. White and chrome, windshield and bags, parts list 1919 BUICK H-6-45 Touring, restoration started. Some extra and riders manual. I have 3 of these beautiful four cyl. parts. Need room. $800. Herb Tourtellotte, 242 Goodwin St., machines but want a car. What have you to trade? Bruce East Hartford, Conn. 06108, (203} 289-1231. Aikin, 11771 MacNab, Garden Grove, Cal. 92641, 714-537-4279. COMPLETE COLLECTION of car radios. Have over 200 on HAVE '50 PONTIAC straight eight sedan. Sell or trade for hand. Write your needs, maybe I can help you. Also quite guns, motorcycle or what have you. Excellent running con a few old time car heaters. Send S.S.A.E., also have quite dition. Radio, heater, automatic spotlight, '69 license, ready a few old car radio parts. Nat AdelstP.in, 1776 Calhoun St., to drive anywhere. Ernest J. Carny, 143 Valencia St., Salinas, Trenton, New Jersey 08638. Cali fornia 93901. Phone (208} 424-9694. STUDEBAKER PARTS- 1920 through 1940, almost all new. HAVE SET of 26" wood wheels with 5 Firestone demount Send your car serial No. and S.A.S.E. please. Thompson able, detachable, rims. Rear wheels have 12 spokes, front Repair and tune up Manuals, 1939 to 1948 - 27 books in a 10. Will trade for set of 28" wood wheels, with 5 demount set- $35. Want copies of the "Studebaker Wheel"-1925-35, able rims. (same as above). Fit a 1912 Oldsmobile "Defender". can you help me? M. Margerum, Elizabethville, Pa. 17023. Any leads greatly appreciated. Tom Martindale, 4325 Nova Drive, Santa Cruz, California 95060. (408} 475-4039. PARKARD 1936. Model120B four door touring sedan, original right hand drive, twin side mounted spares, custom extras, 1906 N FORD ENGINE, 1910 Haynes front seat, 21" Buick original radio etc., excellent original condition. $1950. K. wheels and rims. Trade for 29" Clincher type demountable Vincent, 10440 Hopland Street, Bellflower, Califomia 90706. rims for 1912 Olds Autocrat. Have very good 1911-12 Indian Phone (213} 866-4566. Gas Tank for trade for a 1913 Indian tank. 11-11 Tank has no rust, few very small dents and all fittings and cap. C. A. BUICK SEVEN PASSENGER C-55 Touring, Completely re Fanucci, 5043 Winkle Ave., Santa Cruz, California 95060. stored by professionals 15,000 miles. $8,000. Harold Black burn, 1206 South Oak Grove, Springfield, Missouri 65804. Phone (417} 881-4700. Mention the GAZETTE when writing advertisers ONE REAR END car trunk with two slid-out suitcases en closed 17 inches wide, 341/z in. long. 22 in. tall $65. Floyd Hall, 2421 Alder St., Bakersfield, Calif. 93301. Ph. FA. 3-5559. The deadline for new or revised commercial advertising copy for the 20" WIRE WHEELS, 4 each, 6 Lug, 3" apart on about 6" dia November-December issue is OCTOBER FIRST. For the January·Febru· meter circle. Complete updraft carb and manifold assembly ary issue it is DECEMBER FIRST. Mail copy to Robert Babcock, Horse- for 31 or 32 Cadillac V-8. Also complete distributor and plug less Carriage GAZETTE, 9031 East Florence Ave., Arrington Square, wiring looms for same. Make offers. E. L. Sly, 6106 Helio Downey, California 90240. trope. Maywood. Ca lifornia 90270. HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 63 WANTED 1951-1953 MG w ithin 300 miles of Kansas City, Mo. Also will FOR 1909 MODEL "T" FORD, Brass radiator in good condi buy, trade or sell Railroad Switch Keys to Locks. Charles tion, three-tie r all- brass tailight, carbide headlights, head A. Smith, 2410 Vernon, North Kansas City, Mo. 64116. light forks, Monical w indshield for s teering column. Also want man's raccon coat in good condition. Send price, pic BRASS ERA CAR. Pre-1915. Restore_d preferred, but will tures returned. David Ker, 534 W.16th St., Tempe, Ariz. 85281. consider unrestored or comple te basket case. Prefer larger type, but will consid er o thers. Also need 1929 Chandler hub FOR 1912 OLDSMOBILE "Defender" 5 passenger touring car. caps and radiator cap, and Hl24 Dodge front fe nders in Castle Gas Head Lamps # 1208, Castle tail lamp #220, com prime condition. john Lemmo. :l717 Euclid Avenue, Cleve plete windshield assembly, top, dragon bulb h orn, literature. land, Oh io 4411!1. Want to correspond with "Defender" owners. All le tters an swered. Tom ~artinda l e, 4325 Nova Dr .. Santa Cruz, Cali VINTAGE VEHICLES, Vol. 1 No.3, September-October issue. fornia 95060. (408) 475-4039. Write: Geo. P. Larson , !112 Caroline St., Neenaw, Wis. 54956. COLLECTOR WANTS NICKELODEON (any make), Regina CAST ALUMINUM OIL PAN for 1927 Packard "8", 336-343. Music Box, Duo-Art Electric Piano Rolls, "A" Piano Rolls and Phil Hill, 266 20th StreP. t, Santa Monica, California 90402, Mills, Dewey or Owl Floor Model Slot Machine. Don C. Real, (21:l) Ex 5-9674. 3724 Li sbon St .. Kettering, Ohio 45429, Phone 299-2842. 1932 FORD PHAETON and 19:l6 Ford Phaeton. Finders fee CARBURETOR CATALOGS, application books, sheets, parts paid. Bill Elliott, 1601 TennesseP. StreP.t, Valle jo, California list breakdowns covering 1915 to 1940 carburetors, all makes. 94590 AC 707-644-4475. Want any new parts for carter updraft carbs. Want early 1929 THROUGH 1938 STUDEBAKER Passenger Car Sales Lit Au tolile, Remy, Delco and Delco Remy ignition catalogs. e rature. Also want 1946 through 1951 Studebaker Truck Sales Particula rs and price first letter please. John Baumgartrm. 15 Literature, as well as passenge r Car Sales Literature for the jericho Road, Bainbridge, New York 137:'!3. years from 1946 through 1949. Need shop manual for 1937 HORSELESS CARRIAGE CLUB Gazette Volume 28 No. 4. Studebaker Dictator. Raymond C. Cla rk. RoutP. #1, Waukee, (july-1\ugust 1966).lnformation on a 1915 Mitch ell Car. Would Iowa 0,0263. (5Hi) !l87-432fl. like to corr espond with an owner of one. james C. Roth, 1932 BUICK SHOPMANUAL, specifications and adjus tments, 870, Tartm·ian Way. Sunnyvale, Cal. 94087. Ph. (408) 738-0274. and early 1930's Fisher Body manual. Also 1932 Buick Sales HUP 32. This will be a 1912-13-14 that will include Hup 32 and Service litP.ratmP.. C. FP.ilP-r, fl26 Moundale Dr .. St. Louis, Models. Will pay cash. j. W. Carroll , 8620 Elmira Street, M i ssomi fl3130,. Detroit, Michigan 48204. Phone 933-4492. 1903 FORD 'A' : Tai llamp, sidelamps, Holley ca rbu retor, rear hubcaps, horn. l?.A.RTS 1909-1910 & 1911 FORDS: 5-ball Kingston ca rburetor, Holley carburetor, one piece pan, sq uare hole transmission cover, 13" stee rin g wheel, Kingston coilbox. 1909 FRANKLIN 'G': Rear ax le and hubs, headlamps, sidelamps, fenders, horn , serial number plate, front hu bs, rear seat for tou ring. 1910 FRANKLIN 'D' : Two brass rear hubcaps having 2%" thread, speedometer. 1914 FRANKLIN: Sta rter and starter switch, hubcaps, throttle control, taillamp. 1916 FRANKLIN : 12-volt Newtone horn. 1912 GAR FORD '6-50': 10V2" magnifying lenses, windshield, touring top, rear fenders and brackets. 1910 HUPMOBILE 'B': All lamps, sidelamp brackets, eng in e (approx. number range 2500-4000). 1913 MARMON '32': 26" wheels or rim s only, Lunkenheimer oi ler, Warne r speedometer and cloC'k combination, touring top, rear fe nd ers, ca rbu retor (1 V•" updraft). 1910 MAXWELL 'AA ' : All lamps, Rubes horn bug sc reen. 1914 MAXWELL '35': R.oadster top, windshield, hood, gas tank cap, 1%" updraft Holl ey 'D' carbure tor. generator pulley. 1909 NAPIER: Carburetor, brass hubcaps. 1906 PACKARD '24': Touring top , top rest, tool kit, horn, crossflow 1. Lunkenheimer 7. Early Gray & Davis 10. Continental radiator, spare tire brackets, Trufault-Hartford shocks, rea r luggage rack, brass g rease cups, jump seat bases. spring shackle grease sidelamp clincher rim s 1913 PACKARD '38 ': Weston ammeter. fitting (Reliance #1) 1907 PIERCE 'Great Arrow' : Carburetor. 8. Remy H-3 magneto 11. Rolls Royce shock 1913 RAMBLER '83' : Radiator cap, taillight, stee ring whee l, ignition 2. Goodrich rim s 4-cyl. altern ating absorber sw itch, crankhole cover. 26", 27", 28", 29" current 1910 ROLLS ROYCE : Shock absorbers as pictured, rea r ax le, drive shaft, radiator. 12. V'd crankhole 1910 STERNS '30-60 ': Carbu retor and manifold made as a unit, Gary 3. Dome light 9. Brass carburetor cover and Davis #839 sidelamps, Gray and Davis #119 with "Stearns" script 5-1 / 16" dia. (Make unknown) on head lamp smoke bonnet, large trip le twist Nonpariel bulb horn with round be ll, Gray and Davis #917 taillamp, Lunkenheimer exhaust pressure regulator. Please Send Offers of Cars for Sa le to Bud Catlett. 1905 WINTON 'C' : Brass cow l rai ling, Gray and Davis ligh ts and ca rbid e tank, fan sh roud, muffler, exhaust pipe, bulb horn, Dow coil Still need most items advertised for in last 4 ads. 4Y," x 4V2" x 8V2" (make by Newport). RALPH DUNWOODIE Please Give Full Details and Price In First Letter. Pictures Very Helpful. Any assistance or leads will be greatly appreciated. HRRR..nH'S AUTOMOBILE COLLECTION p. 0 . B 0 X 1 0' R EN 0' N EvA D A 8 9 50 4 64 WANTED 26 MARMON "74" combination Delco key and light switch. STUDEBAKER 1906-07: Engine-trans. radiator. Need body Gas cap, carb, control lever. 36 Auburn straight 8. Aluminum parts and information/literature. I am willing to pay top head. Bob Rollo, 9312 Nichols St., Bellflower, California 90706. price for above. Jack Nicholson, 1330 Carter Road, Sacra mento, California 95825. Phone (916) 489-6511. FOR 1913 PIERCE ARROW 38, Rushmore headlights Number 829. Lynn W. Sidwell, 619 W. 3100 So., Bountiful, Utah 84010. DIETZ SENTINEL #20 Tail Lamp. Ronald D. Knight, 1141 Villa View Drive, Pacific Palisades, California. GL. 4-8473. SEARS OR WARDS complete mail order catalog. Prefer around 1915 era. AI Michaelian, 10638 Holman Ave., Los Angeles, California 90024. 1928 "A" FORD Touring or Roadster. John H. Walker, U. S. Route 20, Fredonia, New York 14063. 1933 STUDEBAKER SIX GRILL. Last item needed for full restoration. Lester Temple, 658 Carla, Chula Vista, California 92010. Phone 714-422-9155. WOULD YOU CARE TO DONATE a subscription of the Horseless Carriage Gazette to your nearest V. A. Hospital? NEED ENGINE as pictured, 4-cyl., "T"-Head type, cast "en Send all subscriptions to the Gazette. Thank you. J. D. Bloc", 29" rims and/or wheels for 38x41/z tire. Fan, Radiator, Harr, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19128. large Rayfield carb, Solar taillamp. Can use any parts or literature for American Underslung. All letters answered. FOR 1929 SERIES 328 LA SALLE SEDAN: Two parking lamps R. D. Toney, 1350 Gloria Drive, Hollister, Calif. 95023. Phone and staunchions, instrument fascia and control knobs, cigar (408) 637-7323. lighter, steering column levers, Walthem stem-wind 8 day dash clock, running board step plates and trim, foot rest and robe rail, interior blinds, one wheel hub, two hub caps, ignition switch and key, any other electrical switches, rear ENGINE ,ARTS tyre carrier lock, tool kit. D. H. Thorn, P.O. Box 71, Kal MADE TO ORDER goorlie, Western Australia, 6430. p~ Valves - Valve Guides - Valve Springs A Bushings - Alloy PIStons - PISton R1ngs - 1907 or 1908 BUICK Model K motor. 4 cylinder. Cast sepa King Bolts - Pin Bush1ngs and Piston Pins rately. Also other early Buick parts. A. Leon, 365 S. Clark R Avenue, Los Altos, California. (415) 948-9590. T IN ANY OVERSIZE ~ McFARLAN LITERATURE: catalogues, manuals, photos, ads. S .· PHONE 1814 SO. GRAND AVENUE Will pay summit prices. Please describe fully. A. J. Arnheim, eF<; c (213) 748-3700 LOS ANGELES 15, CALIF. 10 W. 66th St., New York, New York 10023. COMPLETE REAR AXLE for '10-'14 IHC highwheeler, condi tion of wheels or lack of same unimportant, also need pas senger side bracket for holding jackshaft parts No. 288E, and good usuable front wheels, 36"; IHC script hubcaps, muffler, need many other parts, will buy or have a few parts to trade. Gary Doty, 1133 Osage, Augusta, Kansas 67010. SPLITDORF COIL BOX with fittings for one cylinder 1907' Cadillac. L. W . Pingree, 2643 State Street, Apartment X4, Santa Barbara, California 93105. GEAR FOR GENERATOR shaft for 1919 Olds. model 37 coupe. Generator model 234A. Glenn Rohde, Rt. #2 Echo, WOULD LIKE TO TRADE 1911 Cadillac engine for a 1912 Oregon 97826. Cadillac engine. I would be interested in any other parts OLD TOYS and trains made before 1950. Tootsie Toys, pertaining to a 1912 Cadillac. I also would like to locate a American Flyer, Keystone, Lionel, Structo, Buddy-L Marx, 1904 Holsman engine. Please write or call William J. Becker, Arcade, Hubley, Ives Bing, train and toy catalogs. Old Iron 6222 N. Missouri, Portland, Ore. 97217. Phone (503) 285-7147. Banks. Would like to correspond with other collectors. Buy-Sell, trade. Geo. R. Zaninovich, 1718 Miracosta St., San Pedro, California 90732, Phone (213) 832-2282. ~"'ICI' ~~~~caJ~I~ \ IJ Carburetor for Renault Model 45 as shown: J. B. NETHERCUTT 221 S. Rockingham Ave. • Los Angeles, Calif. 90049 I Phones 213 I 641 -3000 (bus.) 213 I EX 5-3943 (home] I INTAKE MANIFOLD for 1911-1912 Flanders. Would consider I complete engine. Allen Riebe, Rt. 3, Kalispell, Mont. 59901. ~ HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE/September-October 1969 65 WANTED FOR 1922 CADILLAC Touring 61- Rear body section, 33x5 sssssaaaaassaaassaaaa and 600x23 tires, 4 tubes, spare tire carrier, rims, top bows, ~ GRABER & SONS • owner's manual. Edgar H. Baird, 3150 Louis Road, Palo Alto, California 94303. ~ WHEELWRIGHTS ~ Wood spoke wheels made to order using kiln·dryed hickory. BODY OR ENGINE PARTS for 1911' Kissell Kar. Wheels All metal parts must be furnished by you. Wood completely Artillery type. 12 Hickory spoke for model 83 Overland. Parts treated with special sealer to resist moisture. Wheels ready of any kind for 1909 two cylinder Reo. One cylinder engine for sanding and painting. Minimum price, set of 4 wheels for 1905 Pope. Literature for 12-14 Maxwell. Lester Jacobsen, $100. per wheel· FOB Petaluma. 2136 Magnolia Ave., Petal• uma;Calif. 94952 (707) 763-6217 1151 North Chester, Pasadena, California 91104. LOCOMOBILE STEAM CAR PARTS. Need front and rear saassaasaassaaaaaaaaa axles any condition. Robert Babcock, 12762 Ninth St., Garden HOR S ELESS C' ARHIACE GAZETTES Grove, California. 92640. $/.25 a copy 1 STEWART MODEL 24 or 26 with sweep hand to 60 M.P.H. [brass head only). John Carra, Jr., 5833 Costello Ave., Van ( 1954) Volume 16: #1, #3, #4, #5 & #6 Nuys, California 91401, Phone 782-6363. (1955) Volume 17: #1, #2, #3 & #6 1910 CADILLAC PARTS, engine, transmission, radiator, body (1956) Volume 18: #2, #3, #4 or for pattern wheels and all 1910 Cadillac Parts. Have large (1957) Volume 19: #3 "L" head type engine 45 hp. and transmission for sale. Bruce (1959) Volume 21: #4 Hampton, 3431 Cherryland Sp-0, Stockton, California 95205. (1960) Volume 22: #2, #3 (1961) Volume 23: #1 FOR OLDSMOBILE 1921, Model 43A complete 4-cylinder Igni tion distributor Remy Model 350A or 366P or parts therefor. (1962) Volume 24: #4 & #5 Chevrolets 1918 to 1926 use the same distributor. Also light (1963) Volume 25 : #2, #4, #5 & #6 and ignition switch. J. S. Wyatt, 951 Maple Lane, Meadville, (1964) Volume26: #1,#2, # 3& #5 Pennsylvania 16335. (1965) Volume 27: # 1, #2, #3, #4 & #5 (1966) Volume 28: #2, #3, #5 & #6 NEED COMPLETE CORD 1937-812 Transmission or second speed gear. Right windshield frame. Two cylinder heads, (1967) Volume 29: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5 & #6 water pump kit. Front motor mount. Do you need 1910 Over (1968) Volume 30: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5 & #6 land engine parts or frame for 2 cylinder Reo? R. H. Fuchs (1969) Volume 31: #1, #2, #3 & #4 401-405 N. Fulton Ave., Evansville, Indiana. Horseless Carriage Club of America OWNERS MANUAL for 1933 Standard Eight packard-also 9031 E. Florence Ave., Downey, California 90240 Reference books. Will pay top price. Also Stone Guard and ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 17 in. Wire Wheel Hub caps - Stamped Packard Motor Co., ~ ~ Detroit, Michigan. B. Slootmaker, 3048 Perry Ave., S. W., ~ ~ Grand Rapids, Michigan 49509. ~ ~ 1903 CADILLAC front spring horns and perch, rear spring § GAUNTLETS § ~ ~ horns and perch, rear brake drums with internal gear. Cliff ~ ~ Jamison, 156 Meridian, Fresno, California 93702. ~ Authentically Styled ~ FOR 1916 CASE 7 PASS TOURING. Carburetor and com ~ ~ plete tail light assembly. Any condition or parts. Need lit g MEN'S DRIVING GLOVES ~ erature, particularly shop and operator's manual, copies of ~ ~ literature fine. Duane L. Wainwright, Spring Creek Nat. Fish ~ (Ideal for wear with ~ Hatchery, Underwood, Washington 98651, (509) 493-9163. ~ ~ ~ DUSTERS while touring!) ~ FOR A 1914 CADILLAC-Head light lens, clear and convex, ~ ~ grease cups, elbow for grease cup on rear spring, 27" rim ~ ~ ~ Black Capeskin- sizes S- M- L- XL ~ with rings, Jug bolt and Jug with nut, spring wing nuts for ~ ~ top bows, voltage regulator, cut out for generator, horn and ~ Price ...... $8.95 pair ~ bracket, good 36 x 4 1/2 non skid black tire. G. Butts, 3710 ~ ~ SW 171 Street, Seattle, Washington 98166. ~ ~ ~ Enclose check or money order with order. ~ 1923 HUDSON 4 Pass. Speedster, Rear Half Touring body, ~ ~ Top Irons, Crank Pully, Steering Wheel, Generator, Horn, ~ Ship via P.P. Prepaid in USA ~ Muffler, Seats. Also 1927 Essix Boatial Speedster. Windshield ~ ~ post and frame. Top Irons, Seats, Radiator, Rear Fenders, ~ ~ ~ DUSTERS (men's & ladies) . . .. $12.95 each ~ Dash and Instruments, Doors, Horn Switch. Anything for above cars. Don Nelson, 30 Seward Avenue, Springfield, ~ DUSTER CAPS ...... $ 3.95 each ~ Oregon 97477. ~ ~ ~ ~ 2 REAR FENDERS for 1940 110 Packard Sedan. E. D. Chauncy, 6749 South Chicago Ave., Chicago, Illinois 60637. § Donovan Industries ~ ~ ~ FOR 1910 E.M.F. body pattern any style, cylinder block, ~ ~ crankshaft, w ater pipes, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, ~ PHONE 741-3971 ~ fan assembly, intake yoke, water pump, carburetor, crank ~ P. 0. BOX 10184 • DALLAS, TEXAS 75207 ~ case cover, timing gear case, connecting rods, oil valve body ~ ~ assembly, would buy complete engine .. 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