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12.04 hrs. 12.03 hr*. UTTAR PRADESH STATE LEGISLATURE COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEMBERS' (DELEGATION OF POWERS) BILL* BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS [English] Fourth Report MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Shri Indrajit Gupta. [English] SHRI RAM NAIK ( North) : Sir. I have given a notice to oppose the introduction of the Bill which is PROF PREM SINGH CHANDUMAJRA (Patiala) : listed as Item No. 13 of the List of Business Sh I beg to present the Fourth Report (Hindi and English ...(Interruptions) visions) of the Committee on Private Members' Bills Resolution. SHRI PRAMOD MAHAJAN (Mumbai-North East) : But where is the Home Minister to introduce the Bill’ SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR (Bareilly) : Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, I have also objected to it. 12.03% hrs. [English] COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC UNDERTAKINGS THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI ) : He is introducing the Bill in Rajya First, Second end Third Reports Sabha... (Interruptions)The Home Minister is in the . He is coming within two minutes. {English] SHRI G. VENKAT SWA MY (Peddapalli) : Sir. I beg [Translation] to present the following Reports (Hindi and English MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You can ask other minister versions) of the Committee on Public Undertakings: to introduce it. (1) First Report on Action Taken by Government on the recommendations contained in their [English] Forty-Third Report (Tenth Lok Sabha) on SHRI RAM NAIK : The Minister must in fo rm Mazagon Dock Limited. you ..(Interruptions) <2) Second Report on Action Taken by SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN : This is only Government on the recommendations introduction. He Is in the Rajya Sabha. He is coming contained in their Fifty-Fourth Report (Tenth just now. Lok Sabha) on Rural Electrification MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : He is in the Rajya Sabha Corporation Limited.

(3) Third Report on Action Taken by Government * Published in the Gazette 6f india extraordinary. Part-H. on the recommendations contained in their Section-2 dated 18.12.96. 277 Uttar Pradesh State AQRAHAYANA 87, 19.18 (Saka) Legislature BHI 278

SHRI PRAMOD MAHAJAN : That cannot be an MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : No side-taiks, please. excuse... (Interruptions) This is a vary important BW which SHRI RAM NAIK : I am also referring to the Kaul ha would Ilka to introduce in tha Housa. But whan tha and Shakdher with regard to the Introduction of a Bffl. time comes lor its introduction, everybody has gone Rule 64 ia relevant here, 't pertains to the publications o u \. (Interruptions) of a BHI in the gazette before the introduction. It SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN : Sir. the Minister of saya : State for the Home is present here. ...(Interruptions) "The Speaker may, on request being made [Translation] to him, order the publication of any Bid in the Gazette although no motion has been made SHRI PRAMOD MAHAJAN (Mumbai-North-East) : for leave to introduce the BIN In that caae It You please adjourn the House and call the Minister shall not be necessary to move tor leave to from Rajya Sabha ...(Interruptions) introduce the Bill and If the Bid is afterwards introduced, it shall not be necessary..." [English] So, if the BUI is not published in the Gazette what MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER . Please listen to him. is to be done is the next alternative because this Bill has not been obviously published in the Gazette. When [Translation] the Bill is not published in the Gazette and when the SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN . If a minister has to Minister wants to introduce it hore, the Directions of the introduce the Bill both in Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha Speaker are very important. at the same time then, he can not be present in both I draw your attention to those Directions. Direction the Houses simultaneously. There are two ministers in No. 19A is with regard to notice for leave to Introduce the Ministry of Home Affairs. The Home Minister is Government Bids. It says : engaged in Rajya Sabha. The Minister of State of Home Affairs is present here. What is the objection if he wants **(1) A Minister desiring to move for leave to to introduce the Bill. He is not the minister of any other introduce a BHI shall give notice in writing of department. his Intention to do so. (2) The period of notice of a motion tor leave to introduce a Bill under [English] this Direction shall be seven days, unless the Speaker allows the motion to be made at SHRI RAM NAIK . Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, now I shorter notice .* want to oppose the introduction of the Bill. Let the Minister reply to it. This Bill is dated 12th December. So. definitely seven days' advance notice has not been given in SHRI ANIL BASU (Arambagh) : Before the accordance with th» Direction. I do not know whether introduction how can he oppose it? the Speaker has allowed him to introduce the BHI using SHRI PRAMOD MAHAJAN : By giving a notice one his discretion. You might be better aware of this. But I can oppose it at the introduction level. am sure that neither such a notice nor the permission THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI has been given because you are naturally trying to INDRAJIT GUPTA) : I beg to move for leave to introduce adhere to the rules. That is what is expected from the a Bill to confer on the President the power of the Chair also. When the seven days' notice has not been Legislature of the State of Uttar Pradesh to make laws. given in advance by the Minister. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Motion moved : SHRI P.C. THOMAS (Muvattupuzha) . I am on a point of order on this. "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to confer on the President the power of the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER ; Let him finish first. Legislature of the State of Utter Pradesh 1o SHRI P.C. THOMAS : At this stage the introduction make laws." of the Bin can be opposed only... (Interruptions) SHRI RAM NAIK : I have given the notice to oppose SHRI PRAMOD MAHAJAN : He can make his the Uttar Pradeah State Legislature (Delegation of submission later. Powers) BIH. For making laws we are trying to give SHRI P.C. THOMAS : Please hear my point cf order authority to the President. So. according to the rotes. I first. Sir. have given a notice saying that I want to oppose the Bid because it cannot be introduced without complying with MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Under what rule? certain formalities. SHRI P.C. THOMAS : I am referring to Rule 72 As Mow what is the issue? I am referring to the rules per Rue 72. at this stage the introduction of the Bid can antf to the Directions... (Interruptions) be opposed only on one or two grounds. The firet ground ' ; Vttar P m & h 8tata DECEMBER 18, 1086 Legislature Bttt 280 to fhst t Is outside* the togtetetlv* competence of this IEnglish] ffpiiae and tha second ground is that It is (Interruptions) unconstitutional. Only on these two grounds the introduction of the Bill can be opposed at this stage. No * SHRI RAM NAIK : Sir, direction 198 says : other ground can be taken up now. If at- all, "No Bill shall be included for introduction in the objections which are being raised are to be the list of business for a day until after copies heard as a matter between the Speaker and the thereof have been made available for the Government. use of Members for at least two days before MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Pleaee sit down now. I the day on which the Bill is proposed to be have heard you. Let him complete. introduced SHRI P.C. THOMAS : I would request for ydlir ruling. This is the point that I am raising. This Bill has been MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Only the Minister will circulated only yesterday. So, this Bill cannot be have to reply. The Minister will reply to it. introduced. (Interruptions) But there is another provision. I am drawing your attention to that provision also. That provision Is very SHRI RAM NAIK : It is for the Chair to give a ruling. important and 'It shall not be included’, it says : He has to examine the point. The Minister has to reply and it is for the Chair to give a ruling...(Interruptions) “Provided further that in other cases where the Minister desires that the Bill may be [Translation] introduced earlier than two days after the circulation of copies or even without prior MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Let one person raise the circulation, he shall give full reasons in a point of order, you raise it later on. Let him complete it first. At least let him complete first. memorandum for the consideration of the Speaker explaining as to why the Bill is (Interruptions) sought to be introduced without making available to Members copies thereof in (English] advance, and if the Speaker gives SHRI P.C. THOMAS : I would like to say that the permission, the Bill shall be included in the hon. Member, Shri Ram Naik - I have a great respect list of business for the day on which the Bill for him - very well knows this rule and knows whether is proposed to be introduced." he can oppose it on this point, as stated by him. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS At this stage, I would submit that it would be a AND MINISTER OF TOURISM (SHRI SRIKANTA JENA): wrong precedent to allow the objection raised by Shri The Speaker's permission is there. Ram Naik in this way because rule 72 clearly bars any MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please, let him conclude. objection at this stage. It could be allowed only on the point of the legislative competence of the House. My SHRI RAM NAIK : The provision says that he shall hon. friend, Shri Ram Naik has not raised that objection give full reasons. What are the reasons which are given . at all. I would like to submit that under rule 72 this in this memorandum? objection could not be raised. Therefore, I would humbly SHRI SRIKANTA JENA : That Is precisely the pray for a ruling of the Chair on this point of order first. business of the Speaker. SHRI RAM NAIK ; On this point of order, I would SHRI RAM NAIK : I am arguing with the Chair; I am submit this. I am not at all challenging the Bill on the not arguing with you. basis of the Constitution, Sir, what does this memorandum say? It says, There I am opposing it because the rules which are to be Is an Ordinance pertaining to Uttar Pradesh which is followed while introducing a Bill have not been followed. required to be replaced by an Act on or before 1.1.1997'. I am objecting only on that point. Everybody knows that. But the memorandum does not Now, I am coming to the Direction by Speaker which say which Ordinance has to be replaced. Nothing has deals with prior circulation of Bills for introduction. It been said In the memorandum. And, finally the says : memorandum says: 'It Is requested that direction 199 of “No Bill shall be included for introduction in the Directions of the Speaker may kindly be relaxed in the List of Business... respect of Uttar Pradesh State (Delegation of Powers) Bill in order to permit the Bill being introduced'. So, no (Interruptions) reason has been given as to why the Qovernment wants MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : O.K., you have already a relaxation, if the relaxation haa been given, I appeal had your say. to you that i oppose the introduction. 281 Uttar Pradesh Slate AQRAHAYANA 27. 1918 (S aka) Legislature BUI 282

This Government is so lethargic that they do not whether it is constitutionally valid or not has to come observe the propriety of what is being done. They say from the Chair. The Minister has nothing to do with that they do not want a BJP Government to be formed it ...(Interruptions) in Uttar Pradesh. SHRI RAM NAIK : Sir, though I am not satisfied with But at the same time, they can bring at least a Bill the ruling, I will have to abide by it. I am not going to well in time. The Bill has not been brought in time and behave like those persons, those Ministers who do not it has not been circulated in time. That is why i am follow the rules. I know the rules...(7nferrupffons,J That is opposing this. This cannot be called a reason. At this why when you gave the ruling, i said I will have to point, we cannot allow the House to be taken for a ride abide by it ...(Interruptions) by this inefficient Government. The rules are there and SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE : This should they have to be followed. On the point of rule, I pray be expunged... (interruptions) that this Bill should not be allowed to be passed. SHRI RAM NAIK : What is there to be [Translation] expunged?... (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : There are two questions SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE : The words here. First, the Home Minister is not present here. He those persons' should be expunged... (Interruptions) is engaged In the other House. It has been said from SHRI RAM NAIK : I withdraw those words. Please here that minister of state is present here. At a times, substitute it with ‘hon. Members and hon. Ministers'. a minister can be present in one House only. Now the Home Minister has arrived. Secondly, it is not known Sir, I can only appeal to you that in future such whether or not the Speaker has accorded the relaxation. relaxations should not be g'ven to this incompetent I want to inform the House that he has already accorded Govemm ent... (Interruptions) the relaxation. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE Sir. this is very (Interruptions) unfortunate. Shri Ram Nalk is not a back bencher. He is a front bencher trying to replace Vajpayn^u [English] MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Back benchers are also SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur): He cannot respectable Members. question the Speaker's decision. ..(Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI P.C. THOMAS : Rule 72 is very clear. His SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Certainly, all of objection cannot be taken or sustained at this stage. them are respectable. The Speaker has already permitted this. Now, whether the action of the Speaker is correct or not is not to be In spite of the self-opinionated view of Shri Ram discussed in the House. That cannot be discussed. That Naik, what he is trying to do is to challenge the ruling would be improper... (Interruptions) of the Speak er...(Interruptions) He is implicitly trying to challenge the ruling of the chair... (Interruptions) SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE (Dumdum) : Sir, even when the Minister of Home was not present, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please sit down. the Minister of State was present. That is the first point. (Interruptions) The second point is that the ruling has to be given not MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please listen to me. by the Minister but by the Chair. So, the ruling to the effect whether the Bill can be introduced or not should (Interruptions) be given by the Chair and not by the Minister. Therefore, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Let me say a few words. the question of competence and the level of Minister is not relevant at all. That is my submission. (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Will you please listen to [Translation] me? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I have already stated that (Interruptions) (h® Minister of State is already present here, Mr. Speaker, has already accorded the relaxation. You are saying MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Madam Rita Verma ji, will nothing new. you please listen to me? (Interruptions) {English] SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE : Since you [Translation] have said that the Cabinet Minister wac not here and MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : 1 would like to tell Hon'ble J9 has come now. I am making thia potoA...(Interruptions) Shri Chatterjee Saheb that on his Insistence he has if there is any obfagtion, the ruling to the-effect withdrawn hie words. However it is not proper to say 2 * 8 U m r F m m * 9tate DGCEMBER 1», 10M Legfaiature BW 284

that ho it no# a baok-benoher. Baok-benehera, too, aro SOME HON. MEMBERS : The 'Noes’ have It. hon'ble Memiwa...(Tnt»mjptton*> MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Do you want division? [Engtoh] SOME HON. MEMBERS : Yaa. 8HRI 80MNATH CHATTERJEE : It la vary MR. D E P U TY -8P EA K ER : Let the lobbies be unfortunate. What I aaM ia, Shri Ram Natk, baeauaa of cleared— hla long experience, Is not a back Now, the Lobbiea have been cleared. bencher... (Interruption*) Before the dlvlelon starts, every Members ahould MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Ha ia competent enough occupy hie or her own eeat and operate the aystem to do that. Ha wU defend himeeff. from that aeat only. (Interruptions) A Member haa to preaa two buttona almultaneously SHRI 80MNATH CHATTERJEE : But he ia for caating hla or her vote. occupying a front bench. That la all I wanted to One of the buttona to be preaaed la on the railing say... (Interruption*) of the bench In front of the Member. It la called the vote DR. MURLI MANOHAR J08HI (Allahabad): I would Initiation awitch. request Shri Chattarjee to atand up and aay that he A Member haa alao topress one of the three push wtthdrawe It...(Interruption*) buttona in front of hie or her aeat (green (A) for 'ayes', SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : Why? red (N) for 'noea' and yellow (O) for 'abataln') according ^.(Interruption*) to hla or her choice. The vote Initiation switch and one of the three push DR. MURLI MANOHAR JO S H I: You are aaying that buttona are to be preaaed almultaneoualy for a duration he ia not a back bencher aa If being a back bencher la of ten aeconda which ia indicated in two waya. First, by not good... (Interruption*) a count-down on the total reeult dlaplay board, that is, SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE : If what I said haa 10,9,8...0. Second, the period between aounding of two any unintentional effect, then I withdraw ft...(lntemiptlona) audlo-alarma. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : He haa withdrawn It. So, The actual proceae of dlviaion atart8 with the first the matter haa ended now. audlo-alarm. A Member ahould preaa the buttons only (Interruption*) after the firat audio-alarm ia heard. After the expiry of ten aeconda, the audlo-alarm aounda for the second SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN (Murshidabad) : time, when the two buttona being preaaed 8hould be Hon’ble Former Speaker of thla very House often uaed releaaed. to eey tha* there ia no time for baok-benehera that day. He used to repeat theae workea quite often. Therefore, (Interruption*) there is a precedent to call back-benohera MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The queation la : ...(interruption*) That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to confer on the Preeident the power of the [Engtfh] Legialature of the State of Uttar Pradesh to MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : What ia the laaue now? make lawa." He haa withdrawn and the matter haa ended tftere. The Lok Sabha divided : (Interruption*) Dlviaion No. 1 12.30 hrs. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The question is : Ayee "That leave be granted to introduce a BUI to cpnfer on the PresMant the power of the Agaiwal, Shri Jai Prakaah legislature Of the State of Uttar Pradesh to Ahmed, Shri M. Kamaluddln m^ce laws." AJay Kumar, Shri S. Those in favour wM pleaae aay ‘Aye.’ Alagiri, Shri 8amy. V. SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS : 'Aye.' Antulay, Shri Abdul Rahman MR. DEPITPWPEAKER : Those against wM piewe Anwar, Shri Tarlq aay *No.r Baaki, Shri T.R. SOME HQN. MEMBERS : 'No.' BanatwaWa, Shri Q.M. MR. DEPUTY-8P6AKER : l thihk the ‘Ayes' hava It. The Vtyee tawe It. tmnmfae, Kumtrl Mamaita 285 AGRAHAYANA 27, 1918 ( Saka) 286

Barman, Shri Ranen Mukharjaa, Shri Subrata Barq, Shri Shafiqur Rahman Muniyappa, Shri K.H. Basu, Shri Anil Murmu, Shri Rup Chand Basu, Shri China Namgyal, Shri P. Bauri, Smt. Sandhya Nandi, Shri Yallaiah Baxia, Shri Joachim Netam, Shrimati Chhabila Arvind Begum Noor Bano Pal, Dr. Debi Prosad Bhagora, Shri Tarachand Panabaka, Shrimati Lakahmi Bhagwati Devi, Shrimati Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav Bhoi, Dr. Kripasindhu Paswan, Shri Ram Vilas Biswai. Shri Ranjib Patal, Shri Jang Bahadur Singh Budania, Shri Narendra Patil, Shri B.R. Chacko, Shri PC. Patnaik, Shri Biju Chatterjee, Shri Nirmal Kanti Pattanayak, Shri Sarat Chaudhary, Shrimati Nisha A. Pilot, Shri Rajaah Chavan, Shri Prithviraj D. Premchandran, Shri N.K. Chennithala, Shri Ramesh Raghavan, Shri V.V. Choudhury, Shri Badal Rajesh Ranjan alia Pappu Yadav, Shri Damor, Shri Somjibhai Ram Babu, Shri A.Q.S. Das, Shri Bhakta Charan Ramana, Shri L. Das, Prof. Jitendra Nath Ramanathan, Shri M. Dasmunsi, Shri P.R. Ray, Shri Balai Chandra Dennis, Shri N. Reddy, Shri K. Vljaya Bhaskara Farook, Shri M.O.H. Reddy, Dr. T. Subbarami Giri, Shri Sudhir Reddy, Dr. Y.S. Raja Sakhara Hazarlka, Shri Iswar Prasanna Riyan, Shri Baju Ban Islam, Shri Nurul Roy Pradhan, Shri Amar Jos, Shri A.C. Sahu, Shri A.C. Kandasamy, Shri K. Sardar, Shri Madhaba Karma, Shri Mahendra Scindia, Shri Madhavrao Khan, Shri Sunil Selja, Kumari Kodikunnil, Shri Suresh Shakya, Shri Ram Singh Kurien, Prof. P.J. Silvera, Dr. C. Lahiri, Shri Samlk Sudhearan, Shri V.M. Magani, Shri Gulam Mohd. Mir Suttanpuri, Shri K.O. Mahato, Shri Bir Singh Swell, Shri G.Q. Maena, Shri Bheru Lai Thammlnenl, Shri Vaarabhadram Maana, Shrimati Usha Thomas, Shri P.C. Magha, Shri Datta Tiriya, Kumari Suahila Mehta, Prof. Ajft Kumar Topdar, Shri Tarit Baran Mati, Shri H.Y. Upendra, 8hri P. Miara, Shri Ptnaki Venkateawartu, Prof. Ummareddy 287 DECEMBER 18, 1998 288

Yadav, Shri O.P. Paranjpe, Shri Dada Baburao Yadav, Shri Qlrdhari Paranjpe, Shri Prakash Vishwanath Yadav, Shri Ramakant Paswan, Shri Kameshwar Yadav, Shri Ram Krlpal Patel, Shri Vijay Noaa Patldar, Shri Rameshwar Adsul, Shri Anandrao Vlthoba Premi, Shri Mangal Ram Anant Kumar Shri Rana, Shri Kashi Ram Badado, Shri Bhimrao Vlahnuji Rana, Shri Raju Baitha, Shri Mahendra Rawale, Shrl Mohan Banshiwal, Shri Shyam Lai Rawat, Shrl Bachl Singh ‘Bachda’ Barnaia, Sardar Surjit Singh Sai, Shri Nandkumar Bhati, Shri Mahandra Singh Shah, Shri Manabendra Chaubey,' Shri Lalmuni Singh, Shri Chandrabhushan Chaudhary, Shri flam Tahal Singh, Shri Darbara Choudhary, Shri P.L. Singh, Prof. Ompal 'Nidar' Chowdhary, Shri PanKaj Singh, Shri Prahlad Darbar, Shri Chhatar Singh Singh, Col. Rao Ram Das, Shri Dwaraka Nath Singh, Shri Sartaj Drona, Shri Jagat Vir Singh Singh, Shri Satya Deo Fernandes. Shri George Sinku, Shri Chitrasen Gadhavi. Shri P.S. Sonker, Shri Vidyasagar Gangwar, Shri Santosh Kumar Subhash Chandra Baheria, Shri Geete, Shri Anant Gangaram Swaraj, Shrimatl Sushma Jag Mohan, Shri Tripathi, Lt. Gen. Prakash Mani Jai Prakash, Shri Uma Bharati, Kumari Jain, Shri Satya Pat Verma, Shri R.L.P. Jaiswal, Shri S.P. 13.00 hra. Jatia, Dr. Satyanarayan MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Subject to the Correction' Joshi, Dr. Murii Manohar the result of the division Is : Joshl, Valdya Dau Dayal Ayes : 173 Kamal Rani, Shrimatl Noes : 111 Kumar, Shri V. Dhananjaya (Corrected result-Ayes 172, Noes : 111) Mahajan, Shri Pramod * The following members also recorded their votes Mahajan, Shrimatl Sumitra Ayea Mandat, Shri Brahamanand 1. ShM Indrajit Gupta oMaurya, Shri Anand Ratna 2. Shri Srikanta Jena * * Mollah, Shri Hannan 3. Shri Kinjarappu Yerran Naldu Naik, Shri Ram 4. Shri R.L. J a lappa Nimbalkar, Shrl Hindurao Naik 5. Shrimatl Kanti Singh Nttlsh Kumar, Shrl 6. Shri Ramakant D. Khalap Pandey. Dr. Laxminarayan 7.0 Dr. S. Venugopala Chari * * Wrongly voted for NoatK 8. Shri Mohd, Maqbool Dar 289 AGRAHAYANA 27, 1018 (Saka) 290

9. Shri Chandra Deo Prasad Verma 51. Shri Ajay Chakraborty 10. Shri Ayyanna Patrudu 52. Shri Ajay Kumar 11. Shri Sukdeo Paswan 53. Shri Pramothes Mukherjae 12. Shri Nawal Kishore Rai 54. Shri Bhupinder Singh Hooda 13. Shri Sydaiah Kota 55. Shri Sandipan Thorat 14. Shri Lai Babu Yadav 56. Shri Kallappa Awade 15. Shri Pitamber Paswan 57. Shri Bhuma Nagi Reddy 16. Dr. M. Jagannath 58. Shri Mohammad Idris Ali 17. Shri Virendra Kumar Singh 59. Shri Chitturi Ravindra 18. Shri B.L. Shankar 60. Shri Madan Patil 19. Shri P. Kodandaramaiah 61. Shri V. Pradeep Dev 20. Shri N.S.V. Chftthan 62. Shri Giridhar Garrcang 21. Shri Krishna 63. Shri Kalp Nath Rai 22. Shri A. Siddaraju 64. Dr. 23. Shri K. Kandasamy 65. Shri Paban Singh Ghatowar 24. Shri P. Theertharaman 66. Kumari Frida Topno 25. Smt. Ratnmala D Savanoor 67. Shri Ishwarbhai Khodabhai Chavada 26. Shri Shivanand Hemappa Kougalgi 68. Shri Chhitubhai 27. Shrimati Sarada Tadiparthi 69. Shri Udayslngrao Gaikwad 28. Shri Anchal Das 70. Shri Sat Mahajan 29. Shri Somnath Chatterjae 71. Dr. Atmacharan Raddy 30. Smt. Geeta Mukherjee 72. Shri Th. Chaoba Singh 31. Shri Hannan Moliah 73. Shri Lakshman Singh 32. Shri Sanat Kumar Mandal 74. Shri Venkataraman Reddy 33. Shri Syed Masudai Hossain 75. Shri S. Bangarappa 34. Shri D. Venugopal Noea 35. Shri V.P. Sharmuga Sundaram 1. Smt. Maneka Gandhi 36. Shri Soda Ramaiah 2. Shri Prem Singh Chandumajra 37. Shri Keshab Mahanta 3. Shri Surender Singh 38. Shri Haradhan Roy 4. Shri O.P. Jindai 39. Shri P.N. Siva 5. Shrimaft * Purnima Verma 40. Shri Pratap Siftgh 6. Dr. Ramesh Chand Tomar 41. Shri Tiiak Raj Singh 7. Shri Rajiv Pratap Rudy 42. Dr. K.P. Ramalingam 8. Shri Dhlrandra Agarwai 43. Shri V. Ganesan 9. Dr. Ramviias Vedanti 44. Shri P. Sharmugam 10. Shri Prabhu Dayat Katheria 45. Shri R. Gnanaguruswamy 11. Shri Sureah R. Jadhav 46. Shri Mukhtar Anaes 12. Shri Munni Lai 47. Shri Shatrughan Praaad Singh 13. Shri Ashok Pradhan 48. Smt. Subhawati Devi 14. Shri Narayan Athawatay 49. Shri Harivansh Sahay 15. Shri Thawar Chand Gahtot 50. Shri S.P. Udayappan 16. Dr. Ramkriahna Kuamaria DECEMBER 18,1996 292

17. Shrl Shivraj Singh [English] 18. Shrl Rajaram P. Godase MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now, Shrl Surjit Singh 19. Shrl Mahavlr Vlshwakarma Bamala will speak.

20. Shri Uttamaingh Pawar * [ Translation] 21. Shrl M.K. Annaeahlb Patil DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI (Allahabad) : Mr. 22. Shri Manharan Lai Panday Deputy Speaker, Sir, i raised a question. In that context. I would like to say that the manner In which the 23. Shrl Aahok Sharma Government has imported wheat, smalls foul. It would 24. Shrl Ravinder Kumar Panday not only affect the growers but also the consumers and the Government and also the amount involved. You just 25. Shri Braj Mohan Ram cast a glance at today's newspapers. It says : 26. Shri Vijay Annaji Mudo [English] 27. Shri Namdao Diwathe 28. Shri Aahok Argal “Government bungling led to wheat crisis" 29. Shrl Virandra Kumar [ Translation] 30. Shri Mano) Kumar Sinha Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, where is the Hon’ble Food 31. Shri Madhukar Sarpotdar Minister is heading for?... (Interruptions) 32. Prof. Raaa Singh Rawat SHRIMATI : (South ) : Hon'ble Minister Sir, this question relates to your 33. Prof. Rita Varma Ministry. 34. Prof. Chaman Lai Gupta DR. MURLI MANOHAR JOSHI : This is an open 35. Shri Ram Nagina Mishra bungling. You say that we shall import wheat and the standing committees of the Food Ministry say that there 36. Dr. G.R. Sarode is no need of wheat import. I read out for you from 37. Shri Rajandra Singh Q. Rana today’s “Indian Express". 38. Shri Chandraah Patel [EnglishJ 39. Shri Vinay Katiyar “The Government's decision to hurriedly 40. Dr. Mahadeapak Singh Shakya import 2 million tonnes of wheat has erected 41. Shri Rajabhau Thakre . a flutter in the Food Ministry with officials pointing out that according to current 42. Shri Kishan Lai Dilar estimates, stocks for P.D.S. stands at 8.4 43. Shri Bhanu Pratap Singh million tonne, enough last until May, 1997.” 44. Shri Jayainh Chauhan [ Translation] 45. Dr. Vallabh Bhai Kathiria If we have got enough foodgrains stock until May, 46. Shri Ram Shakal 1997 then, what is need for this import. The manner in 47. Shri Nakli Singh which the import is being carried out, is horrible... (Interruptions) Adjournment Motion Comes first. 48. Dr. Amrit Lai Bharti Shri Bamala ji would also speak. However, why are you 49. Shri Shri-Ram Chauhan feeling uncomfortable? Shri Bamala ji haa given me the opportunity... (Interruptions). Tha Government has not 50. Shrl Padamaan Chaudhary yet made It clear as to with which company he has The motion was adapted. signed the agreement, at which place and at what rates. I fear that on the basis of what has published in the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Tha Mlnlater may now newspapers and the rates at international level, after introduce tha Bill. the Sugar Scam, It ia going to be another Scam, so to THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI say wheat Scam. Tha manner In whloh tha Qovamment INDRAJIT QUPTA) : I introduce ** tha Bill. made the imports of Sugar at an Inappropriate time, similarly today wheat Import ia being carried out at an inappropriate time and at an unrealised rates ** Introduced wtth the recommendation of the President. ...(Interruptions)