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Discover the Truth at: http://www.theblackvault.com ... --- -·- ·· .. ···-·-···------------------------- JFK Assassination System Date: 5/19/201 Identification Form Agency Information AGENCY: FBI RECORD NUMBER : 124-10278-10340 RECORD SERIES : HQ AGENCY FlLE NUtv1BER : 92-6054-771 Document Information ORIGINATOR: FBI FROM: SAC, PH TO: DIRECTOR, FBI TITLE: DATE : 10/01/1964 ' PAGES: 21 SUBJECTS: LCN, MEMBERS, TRANSCRIPT, CONVERSATION, COMMISSION DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT CLASSIFlCA TION : Unclassified RESlRJCTIONS : 4 CURRENT STATUS: Redact DATE OF I.AST REVIEW: 06/26/1998 OPENING CRITERIA : INDEFINITE COMMENrS: INC MEMO •• ~1 9 NW 45839 Docid:32301505 Page 1 ( ·.- ... ___...;. ,,.._') r0·36 ( Rev. 5-22- 64 ) FBI Date: OCT 1 1964 Transmit the following in -----------,=------,,.....,....----:--:------- - -,1 ( Type in plaintext or code) V i a _____________AIRTEL_ REGISTtRED MAIL I . (Priority) - -----------------~: ----- ---- ---- ----- --- --- TO: -'Director, FBI (92-6054) ......~ ... : . .: ·. 1~<ZM: SAC ; Philadelphia ( 92-1027 ) 0 .... ·:.-..., i . ~/'~JECT: ( _,...- LA COSA NOSTRA, aka f ._::_· AR;CONSPIRACY (OO:New York) ' ~.,..,. •' . '@_/ ' i . "~"./ Enclosed for the Bureau and .··.1 ch office with "Commission '' . I tnan s cr.i.p1: I members is one copy of a :er:at:· ~ of a conversation OTHER 4 between ROCCO SCAFIDI . and ! _ -~ lfapodecina, Philadelphi~ Family, La Cosa Nostra, in w l.C defines the "Commission", identifies some -of the members , etc. The conversation mentions JOSEPH BONANNO but does not .Jtouch on BONANNO's problems with the Con~ission . .:. ~ c::>c.-: ~~~} - ' :-.··. "!.. • .. - J "" ." < i't..:: .... , 1~cw~ m · ;~~ · _·, ,· c.3> - Burei~· · ( 92..:.:~054) (RM) (En.c. 1) • ~ 2 - New icf:i-k (9:~-2300 (RM) (Enc. 1) ' ·· -~ · V, 2 - Buffalo (92-377) CRMHEnc . 1) Cl 1 ,..,M· ~ O f>.., ..!.. ..;,.; 2- Pittsburgh . (92-S99X RM ) (Enc. 1) I~ 2 - Newark (92-1203) ( RM) (Enc. 1) ~---- ____ 3 - Philadelphia 2 92-102 7 t OC T 2 1964 1 - 137-~049 Sub B JRP : ARM - - (14) Per ___________ Sent------ M NVl 4 5839 Doc i d: 32301 505 Page 2 ... --- ·•. c 0 UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT M E M 0 R A N D U M OCT 1 1964 .OTHER 4 · TO: SAC (137- 4049 Sub B) j I FRO.M: SA J. ROBERT .PEARCE I· SUBJECT: PH 702 - C* I i On 9/24/64 , t h e apove source furnished the results of a conversation between ! ~n d ROCCO ~CAFID I • . ~ .. In the conversation SCAFIDI is identified as S andl as c. "-----...J .... ... It is apparent that EXTREME CAUTI ON BE USED IN REPORTING THIS INFORMATION. IT SHOULD BE REPORTED IN LHM PARAPHRAstn, AND WITH THE NAME OF ROCCO s¢AFIDI _DELETED vd THOUT EXCEPTION. ~- Bureau (92-6054) 1 - New York (92- 2300) i ·- Buffalo (92-377) 1 - Pittsburgh (92- 599) 'I 1 - · Newark (9·2-l203 J 32 ~ - Philadelphia I 7 92-1027 (LA COSA NOSTRA) I 2 9?- 616 (JOSEPH BONANNO) ·l 1 s2- 444 (ANGELO BRUNO) · 1 - 92-1141 (JOHN CAPPELLO) 1 92-97& CfGNAZIO DENARO) . 2 92-524 (CARLO GAMBINO) '\ ·2 92-474 (JOSEPH IDA) l 2 92- 512 (THOMAS LUCHESE) j 2 92 - i346 (JOSEPH LANCIANA, aka JACK WILLIAMS) 2 - 92-1079 (PASQUALE MASSI) 1 - 92-1067 (FRANK MONTE) 1 - 92-106.8 (FRANK "CHICKIE" NARDU CCI) i 2 - 92- 564 "(JOSEPH PROFACI) I 1 92 - 445 (ANTONIO DOMINICK POLLINA) I 1 92 - 1316 (ROCCO SCAFIDI) 1 - 9.2-117 3 (SAM SCAFIDI; PHILADELPHIA) 1 92- 1073 (PHILIP TESTA) 2 1 37-4049 Sub B· JRP :ARM ,. (37) ' NW 45839 Docid :32301505 Page 3 ()- OTHER 4 · PH 137-40~9 Sub B Information en.closed in parenthesis is explanation of the meaning of \he conversation as explained by source to fully identify persons mentioned and to indicate portions tha·t are not audible or garbled. On 9/24/64 C: What? • S. About 1: 30 we were over there, nothing happened ·C: Did you go see ANGE? s: .r went to see him last night, and I told him. C: t.-7here did he _go? S: I don't know. And I told him. So, for next week, he better go see him and strai~h~ en out. - C: Yeah . btit a a a 0 (Good m~rning' I Istranger speaks to '-1____ _, s: Yeah. W~ were there until 1~30 and the guy didn't show up. I ain't got no luck. (As-ide to unidentified person, SCAFIDI ·says, "How you doing, buddy?" Customers ame and qf during ~he conver~ation . · Conversatio~ in f~-~~-:---:---'- store, NJ.nth and Fl. tzwater Streets, PhJ.la delphia). (' ...... .. What do you want, a quart or a gallon? talking to customer in his store) . '-------'1 S: ~?.~'t worry,~'--------~ I'd have been here. You- kn6w that. · C: I was worried. I swear to God . I even called :him yesterday. I mean. State~~ w-I don w t know. · But . what I don't know don't hurt me. S: Relax. You know I would h~ve been hereand wet your palm, buddy. I'm not. that way. (SCAFIDI and .FRANK MONTE attempted to hold up a "Jewish Guy" on night of 9/21-22/64. They remained until 1 ~ 30a . m . , - ~/22/64 _waiting for t .l}e man to show. The intended victim· cashes c~ecks i and . carried la~ge sums of money on his '. - . 2 INW 45839 Docid:32301505 Page 4 ·-·-··- ·---- ---- 0 0 OTHER 4 PH 137-4049 Sub B person. He didn't show at his usual place. ~ I had been told by SCAFIDI if. he had made goode would have q i :ven I lsome of the money . ) Regardless, I I you know I'm not _that hungary because ..... C: No, I wasn't thinking of that. S: I went to see GNATZ (IGNAZIO DENARO, under boss La Cosa Nostra, Philadelphia, ANGELO BRUNO, Boss, La Cosa Nostra CLCN), Philadelphia, arid Commi ssion ....... .. ~ember~departed for Miami night of 9/23/64, so IGNATZ is in charge urttil BRUNO return's) yesterday. I s·aid, ., ·.· did FRANK come and see you? He said not yet. He'll ' be over. It would have been nice . I would have paid •.. TONY off. l· . ., C: But you see , he should have went and seen him, being I. .';'. that you went down . That's why . I told you. Did you get in touch with .him (MONTE ) any time? (FRANK MONTE I. shoulq have reported his attempted holdup · activity .I to DENARO like SCAFIDI did) . s: No , I couldn't see him. :: ·. C: Maybe, because •• • • was with yorr, you know, he'd figure, what the (obscene) i s he doing with you •••• S: Well , I got him protected tooG ~= Huh? s :·. I got him protected too. I wanted GNATZ t o think that ~~ ~""""' . "·,""'-·...... he didn' t do ito I want to wait until he talks to you. See. I'm waiting to see him. See why the guy· didn't show up. It's funny the guy didn't show up. C: Oh, he wasn't with you, FRANK? ' .; ':. ~- S: Yeah, we both. "ffp was on the corner. I was on the side. The guy didn't show up. There is somethi ng funny there. He's t here every Tuesday. All the people were waiting for him at the luncheonette to cash some checks. No . luck. (Customer intervenes here aboui steaks). I t would all have been all right ,I I. o o I went to s.ee my prother ( SAM SCAFIDI, also member LCN) yesterday, and thought I was; going to •••· .. ,. 1 ·'· . ., .. , •• .. - 3 - ·--- ---- ----------·-· ...... ---- ------' '· NW 4 5839 Docld:323 01505 Page 5 . ... PBDBRAL BORBAO OF DVBS"l'IGA'l'IOII POSTPOli'EIIEIIT DIPORIIA'l'IOII SilUi' (JPK KATBIU.ALS) ~Page {s) .withheld entirely at this location in the file. 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Z-IPO~ -ej· if -0 s;«-t. - 7 7 J xxxxxxxxxx XII ,-1YXXXX xxxxxxxxxx ' xxxxxxxxxx .. xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx Page 6 NW 45839 Docid:32301 505 0 0 PH 137-4049 Sub B C: Look, I mean, that·' s t-1ho I was going to go see o I said that, you knowo S: But it didn't work out. Didn't pan out. C ... But, ah, beinga that I, ah. I called him and he said he~' 11 (tell me?) the next time I cali himo Not that .I - want .him to thin~ that I know, becaus~ the. less I . know the better off I am . You understand what I mean? I'm not concerned or anything-~- ~=-~~ a case .