Eigbth Series, V(.I. XXXVII, No 25 Tuesday t March 29, 1988 Cbaitra 9, 1910 (Saka)
LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Tenth Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)
( Vol. X.XXVII contains Nos. 21 to 30)
LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI . Price : Ra. 6.00 [Original Enalish proceedlDp IDChJded In Fn,llsb Venioo aDd OrIelDa) BlD4I proceedlop included In Hindt Vc:nIoD wm be treated II autboritatiWl ud DOt cbc uu.lltiou thereof.l CONtENTS
:Bi,bth Serie., Volumc XXXV, Tenth Session, 1988/1910 (Saka)}
No. 25, TU61day. March 29, 1988!Chaltra 9, 1910 (Saka)
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WeicQ)C to German Democratic Republic Parliamentary Delegation 1 Or"l Aswers to Questions: 2-28
*tarred Questions No!. 491, 494, 496 to 498. SOO and 501
WriUcn\nswers to Questions : 28-248
Stared Questions Nos. 492, 493 495.499 and 502 to 510 28-41 Untarred Questions Nos. 5136 to 5278, 52~O. to S296
and 5298 to 5366 41-248
PAPERS .. AID ON THE TABLE 249-256
MESSA~S FROM RAJY A SABHA -256
COMMIlfEE ON PRIVATE MEMBERS' BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS-
Fiftieth Report -Presented 251
PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE-
Hurdred and tenth to Hundred and Fifteenth Reports-Presented 257
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC UNDERTAKINGS-
Thirty-eighth Report-presented 2S1
STATEMENT CORRECTING ANSWER TO S.Q. NO. 117 dated 1.3,1988 Re. PROVISION OF TELEX FACILITIES FOR BLOCK HEADQUAR TERS-
Sbri Vasant Sathe 258
-The Sign + marked above tbe name of a M~mber indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. ( ii )
MATTERS UNDER~RULE)77-
(i) Demand for financial assistallce to Madhya Pradesh Government for improvlDg gas· leak affected areas in Bhopal
Shri K.N. Pradhan 259
(ii) Demand for disseminating, specially o,er tbe AIR and Doordarsban, the benefits of eating vegetarian foods-
Shrimati Usha Rani Tomar 2S9
(iii) Steps for llpliftment of the Bidi workers- Shri Nandlal Choudhary 260
(iv) Steps to meet water scarcity in Kbandwa (Madhya Pradesh)-
Shri Kahcharan Sakargayen 261
(v) Provision of water connectlC'm to re~ldents of Mangolpuri, Sultan- puri, t'angloi and other J J ColoDJes of DeIhl at a mimmum fee- Shri Bharat Smgh 261
(vi) Short and long term rrea'ure~ Ie check t1ood~ 10 Bibar-
Sbri S}ed Sbahabuddm 262
(vii) Steps to establIsh the propo5ed Od Refinery at Lalhlmpur-
Shri Gokul Saikia 263
(viii) Financial assistance to farrrers cf Ah\ar dlstTlCl (Rajasthan) whme crops were destroyed hy hail-storm- Shri Ram Singh Yadav 263 lllega] Migrants (De crmination by Tfltur:ah.) Amendrr.cDt BII!- Motion to consider-
Sbri Syed Shababudc:r. 264 Shri Dincsh Goswaml 269 Shri Zainul Ballher 28l Shri Ramlshray Prasad 510gh tl87 Prof. Saifuddin Soz 211 Shri Piyus Tirak), i90 ( lit )
Shri C. Madhav Reddi 292 295 Shri Mobd., Mahfooz Ali Khan Shri O. M. Banatwalla 29' Sbri Amar Ro),pradban 303 Shri SaifuddiD Ahmed 307 Shrimati D. K. Bhandari 308 Shri Abdul Hamid 310 Shri P. Cbidambaram 314
Clauses 2 to 1e and 1
Motion to pass-
Shri P. Chidarobaram 327-310
DEMANDS FOR GRANTS, J988 .. 89- Ministry of HumaD Resource Development- 370-400
Dr. T. Kalpana Devi 371 Shri Mukul Wasnik 379 Shri V. S. Krishna lyer 31' Shri Ram Singh Yadav 396 Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 40l
LOK SABRA DEBATES
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LOK SABRA box. We wish the-n 8 happy and fruitful stay in our country. We also convey our warm greetmgs and very best wishes through them to His Excellency the Chairman of the Council of State of aD:t Chairman, Council Tuesday, March 29.1988/Chaitra 9, 1910 of Ministers, the Peop\e's Chamber and the (Saka) friendly people of tbe German Democratic Republic.
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Th, Lok Sabha met ot Eleven 0/ the Clock [English} (MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] Kannada Programmes on Natioaal Holidays (English]
WELCOME TO GERMAN DEMOCRATIC "491. SHRI V S. KRISHNA IYER: PARLIAMENTAR Y DELEGATION Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to MR. SPEAKER: Hon'ble Mem~rs. I state: have to make an announcement. On my own behalf and on behalf of the Honourable (a) \\ hether it is a fact that there are Members of the House, I hlVe r.reat pleasure no Kannada programmes througbout the in extending our warm welcome to HIS day on National holidayc; viz Independence Excellency Mr. Horst Siodermann. President Day, Rerublic Day a~·d Gandhi Jayan~i on of the People's Chamber of German Demo- Baogalore Doordar~hatl ; and cratic Republic and Hon'ble Members of German Democratic Republic Parlia- (b) if so, \\berber Government propose mentary Delegation who are on a visit to to telecast Kano.J.da programmes and India as our honoured guests. Kannada feature films depic~ing the story of freedom fi~htefS or inspiring people on The other Hon'ble Members of the nationalism and noti.:nal integration in the delegation are: afternoons on those National holidays hy Bangalore Doordar'hhl1 ? J. Mr. Herbert Ziegenbann, MP
2. Mr. Manfred Scheler, MP THE DEPUTY ~UN,STER IN THE MINI~TRY OF l"-lFORMATION AND 3. Dr. (Mrs.) BaeIbel Schindler- BROADCASTING (SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR): (8' and 'b). A statement is g,ven Sa~fkow. MP below. 4. Mr. Lutz Ahnfeld, MP
S. Mr. Gerhard Holtz-Baumert, MP Statement I
The Delegation arrived Delhi today. DoorJarshan Kendra. Bangalore does morning. They are now seated in the special telecast Kannada pro,;;rammes on National s MAR.CH 29. 1988 4 holidays in its normal evening transmission sugestions in view subject to prOlrame wbich is DOW for a duration of 130 minutes production (aciJit,. We are for giving more daily commencing at 1830 bours. and more programmes in Kannada. The hon. Member had already thanked me, Besides the live telecast of Flal Hoisting ceremony at Red Fort and Republic Day SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER: I once Parade, special programmes on Patriotic again thank bim Sir. Now, I would like to themes are telecast on national bolida)s. bring to the notice of tbe hon. Minister Tbere is, however, no proposal to extend the that out of 90 emp)oyees, who are there, transmission to afternoon on these days. hardly ten people know Kannada. How can you produce Kanoada programmes 'l Who SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : Sir. win produce Kannada programmes? Suppose Doordarsban is really an affront to the if a Kannada man has to come and sit in people of Kamataka in general and the Assam, can you ask him to produce pro- people of Bangalore in particular. Door- grammes in A~samese. I wrote a letter to darshan is meant to educate the people of the Hon. Minister and he said "according to the region and also to entertain the people rules, we do not go by language" Then, of the region. Now what is happening Sii, what is the meaning in it? Should they not is that out of 3 J 0 minutes programme. know the language of that )ocality? I do hitherto only 90 minutes programme was in not mind if a Hindi man comes aod siCS Kannada, and particularly in twelve other there and produce Kannad programmes ... centres in Karnataka, everything is relayed (Inte""ptionJ) from Delhi. What is tbe use of having Doordarshan like that 'l Only very recently SHRI BHADRESW AR T ANTI : The when Sbri Bhagat took over. he enhanced it same thing is happening in Assam also. by thirty minutes. Of course, I must thank. him for that. Sir, the people of Karnataka are really agitated -hitherto they were saying SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: May I that first studio will be constructed and request the hon Mmister to take steps to see afterwards the timings will be enhanced. that people knowing Kannada are appointed tberCl r (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : Put the question please. SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT: I allrce witb the Hon. Member tbat tbose wbo are expect- SHRI V. S KRISHNA IYER: 1 am ed to produce programmes in a particula r very sorry to say that out of 300 mlDules language should know that language; sbould programme, only 120 minutes programme is be conversant with language aDd should be beiog telecast in Kannada (Interruptions) able to do that programme. I will have a check-up done on tbat. So rar as tbe Tbe demand of the people in Kamat ka recruitment of services is concerned, there is that we should have at leas t three haurs is no State-wise or language-wise quotas programme in Kannada just as you ha ve go t fixed; but in a particular language wbere in other States like Hyderabad, Madras and the programme is supposed to be produced, other centres. Will the Governmeot take 1 will have a look at it and see that tbe initiative to enhance the time limit to at people who produce programmes bave least three bOUIS immediately ? sufficient proper knowledge of the language.
THE MINISTER OF PARL1A- SHRI VEERENDRA PATJL: So rar MEN TARy AFFAIRS AND MINISTER as the Kanoada programmes are concerned, OF INFORMATION AND BROADCAS- during these days it is bardly one to ODe TING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT) : The bon. and a half hours. I agree with tbe Hon. Member knows that be had tbanket1 us for Member Shri Krishna Jyer that tbe feeling tbat. The programme is being progressively in Karnataka is that more time should be increased and tbe bon. Member haa written devoted for Kannada prognmme. Tbat is to m. thankins for that. We shall keep your one demand. (lrrterruptitJrrs) CHAltRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) (Jr.' .t4aIw,,,
PROP. N. O. RANOA: In Baulalore. loter·MIDlsterlal GrOllp 011 Coal (/n/~r'lIPtlonl) Sapplle. to Power Plaa. + *494. SHRI BA~WARI LAL SHRl VEERENDRA PATIL: Not only PUROHIT~ in Banaalore but in the entire Karnataka. DR. G. S. RAJHANS : Sir, I am laying more emphasis on the quality of the Kannada programme. I am very sorry to say that so far as the quality Will the Minister of ENERGY be·pleas- of the Kannada programme is concerned, ed to state: it appears as if tbose wbo are in charge of Kannada programmes koow bow to fin tbe (8) wbether Government have recently gap by all sorts of programmes which are set up an inter-Ministerial ,roup to coordi- of no interest to the viewers at aU-either nate and ensure coal supplies to the power those who are in charge of the Kannada plaots in the country; programmes are short of resources-it is for tbe Minister to tell us-or as Mr. Krishna (b) if so, tbe composition of the group; Iyer bas said, they do not bave ABC knowledge of Kaonada; they do not have and either imagination or vision about producing good quality programmes. I will oot agree (c) the estimated loss to power plaots with any Member If he says tbat Karoataka due to non-supply of adequate coal during is short of talent. It is not short of talent the last three years and further steps and Karnataka bas produced good artists Government propose to take to boost the who are well known throughout India and coal .. upplies to power plants? also in the entire world. Wben thIS is the state of affairs, I would like to know why THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND tbe programme in Kannada, whiCh is being MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS produced and put on T.V. is so poor; and (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). A wbat are the concrete steps that Government statement is given below. proposes to take in order to improve tbe quality of Kanoada programme. Tbe Hoo. MiOlster can very well compare the quality Statemeot of programmes produced in Marathi, Tamil, Bengali with that of Kannada programmes. As I said and I repeat it, less said the better (a) to (c). Coal supply to power stations about lhe quality of Kannada programmes. ID tbe country is monitored by Central Government and pnority is accorded to supply of coal to tbe power sector. A Stand- ing Linkage Committee functions in tbe PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: To Department of Coal with representatives of bring them at par, do not deteriorate the Department of Coal, Department of Power. quality of Marathi programmes. Ministry of Railways, the Central Electricity Autbority (CBA) aDd Coal Companies which decids linkages on quarterly basis. Supply of SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT: What the coal to power stations is monitored closely Hoo. Member bas said, I certaioly agree by CoaJ India Limited, Ministry of Railways that we need to improve the quality of and Departments of Coal and Power. and Doordarshan programmes including the CEA in order to ensure that adequate proarammes in Kannada. I agree witb him supplies of coal are available with the power tbat tbere is a lot of taleot io Kannada. I stations to maintain tbe level of generatioD will certainly consider this matter. J will required. By and large. the position in discuss this matter with tbe Members of regard to supply of coal to power statioos Parliament from Karnataka also in order in tbe country bas been satisfactory and to soo wbat best we can do to furtber tbermal aeneration in tbe tbree years from improve the quality of proarammcs. 198 S· 86 bas exceeded the tarsetl. ; MARCH 29, 1988 8
A special Inter-Ministerial Group was and tbe Central Electricity Authority is set up by the Department of Coal to co.. obtained and action is taken on that basis. ordinate and ensure adequate and regular It is true that certain power plants are not coal suppJies to tbermal power stations in interested in increasing tbeir stocks. Shri tbe country as a part of Action PJan -to build Purohit is we]) aware that it results in lock- adequate coal stocks with the p~)wer stations up of funds and therefore, they try to in view of the 6-day strike call by workers maintain the stock a t the minimum level. in coal industry from 15.3.1988. But, when there is a short supply due to non-arrival of wagons or rakes, then they The Group comprised representatives rush in. Therefore, we aro making efforts of Ministry of Railwa.ys. Departments of to ensure that stocks keep increasing and as Coal and Power, Coal India Limited and we bave witnessed recently when there was tbe Central Electricity Authority. a tbreat of strike and our friends, the 10" called ... (Interruptions) I said so-calJed ... (Trtua.darion) MR. SPEAKER: Tbe translation is SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: correct. Should we allow it ? Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Government deserves congratulations for comtituting this Perma- SHRI VASANT SATHE: The 'so called' nent Standing Committee. However, the is all right. We had increased the stock. point of concern is that many times coal But, it depends on the fact that production stock gets almost eXhaU stations are not closing down and power give aod take. We have suggested to tbe generation is al.o not being stopped. On Central Government to take measures to the contrary, you will find that power improve present situation of the power generation has increased whicb proves the stations and to find out ways to solve tbe fact tbat tbe supply of coal is ~regular . . problem of recovery of the amount outstand- ing against them. A sum of Rs. 80 crores SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: Sir, it is to be recovered from the Government of is true that tbls year power generation bas Uttar Pradesh. Now, with whom should we increased by about 56 per cent In the quarrel 1 It is like piercing your own lips Thermal Power Stations anJ Its credit goes with your own teeth and which will be like to the Government. Though both the sheddmg your own blood. We cannot stop Departments of Energy and Coal are Wltb supply of coal. If it was possible to adopt him and there IS a regular supply of coal, commercial attitude, ~e could have said but Sir I want to raise a fund SHRI VASr\NT SATHE: It is not the (b) If so, tbe extent t hereof and the concern of the Linkage Committee to fix main rea' ODS therefor; and the rates or to recover the arrears. Tbe function of the Linkage Comnllttee is to ensure tba t coal is available regularly, but (c) the steps taken to step up power we are trapped in such a vicious circle that generation by the existing power plaots? we have to recover tbe cost of coal from those to whom we are supplying it and the power stations have to recover their dues THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of the power supply from those to whom DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THB they have supplied power and the parties MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI concerned are not making payment due SUSHI LA ROHATGI) : Ca) to (c:). A State • ,aiDal them. Thus, this is all a matter of ment is given below . it MAkes 29, .,.8 ti Statemeat HOUSe, sufficient coal and that too of tbe best grade is a\railable in Orissa. As such. No. As regards Orissa and Ganjam t it is varies with the requirement of the country good coal and I think you can check up with and as tbe demand grows UP. we will be the Ministry there. able to supply more and we are able to make greater availability. This year we excepted PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Do a shortage of 9 per cent but because of tbe you want us to Jive with ashes ? drought, tbe sbortage went up to It per cent. But by tbe end of the Seventb Plan, SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: we hope that the shortage will be of the Asbes are very im .')ortant. order of S.4 per cent. MR. SPEAKER: He is a sportsman Regarding the amount of money. this is and he is talking about the other ashes. a pf'ority sector. We ha\e to say tbat we are getting more money for tbat. Even for SHRI VASANT SATHE: You will never starting the project for the 8th Plan. we win ashes. have allotted Rs. 11,000 crores more in addition to what we bave done so tbat the SHRI SOM'NATH RATH : I would like Project in tbe Eighth Plan can be started to know from the Hon. Minister what is the right now Contingency Plan and what is the require- ment of power tn tbe country and to what SHRI DINESH GOSW AMI: The Hon. extent electricity is being generated and Minister has said that tbere is a decline in wbetber the Government has made any the bydro power because of the drought. But short ·term and long-term plan to meet the there is one area which bas tbe bighest demand. If so, \\ SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: very much hi,her. The averaae is about 22 This is a valid question. I am glad we have per cent for the whole country. Therefore, all the potential of hyde} sector. We have a we started rigbt from the beginnlna of tho potential of about 84,000 MW of hyde) in last year-I mean this financial year-and the country of which about 38 per is located we took Zonal meetings of every State. We in the North-East and we have a Scheme made it necessary for every State Board- for about 24,000 MW as per the Brahma- along with the Power Ministers - to realise putra Board But it requires colossal amount that the transmission and distribution 10lses of funding. So, we ar" going into it. should be made up. They ~bouJd be reduced. As a matter of fact, reduction of 1 per cent SHRICHANDRA PRATAP NARAIN 10)5 is equivalent to about saving of Rs. 4S0 SINGH: You need more funding. You go crores and with tbis amount "'e can set up for huge therma 1 plants instead of Micro one Super-thermal Power Plant. Therefore, and Minihydel generations. this is a very important aspect and every step has been taken (Interruptions). I bave SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI : No. already told about it. At the same time, We do not go in for tbat. We are going for we have also started some incentive prize mini and Micro Projects al~o. We are trying scheme for reduction of transmission and to start many small and mi.;ro projects also. distribution losses. It pertains not only to We are also gaing into the viability and the tbe workers frC'm each Electricity Board, tbe commercial asp!ct of it. Personally, I feel Chairman but anyone from the public. from there is a great potentialIty for it and we any profession, can come out witb any will try to give it a thru:it so that this will be innovative scheme and tbey sball be given cheaper, this will be pollution-free and this some special prize for it, ] would be very will be a permanent solution. happy if we can reduce this loss. We are conscious of this defect. We want to bring MR. SPEAKER: Brahmaputra is itself .. it down. a store-house of energy. 2' lakh casecs is discharged in that Quick -flo ",ing big river SHR I SRIHARI RAO: Mr. Speaker. Sir, I want to know from the Hon. Minister SHRI RAM SINGH Y ADA V: Sir, in one thing. There is plenty of gas available Part (b) of the question it bas been asked in the Krishna-Godavari basin and in East that if there is a sh~rtfa\\, the extent tbereof and West Goda\ ari. To make use of tbis and the main reasons therefor. I feel that gas, is thrre any proposal to set up higber one of tbe areas is that of transmission losses capacify turbines to generate a power unit in the country. That area has not been East-Godavari? I would like to know the toucbed by the Hon MiOlster in her reply. categorical answer. Sir. I would like to say that in this very House about one year back. we amended tbe Electricity Supply Act. T"ere are possibilities SHRI VASANT SATHE: Sir, I want of high lossses in transmission. The res- to say s( mething on tI.e earher question. I ponsibility bas been fixed upon the officials wiU say it aftetwards. But arout the first concerned and tbe field staff. I would like question regarding gas, we are already along to know whether any actIon has bee-n taken the pipeline setting up tbree gas-based by tbe State Electricity Board or by the thermal plaDts at Anta. Kawas and Auraiya. Central Blectr!city Authority or wbether you There is a proposal to set up lias-based bave fixed up some programme or some plant also at Dad,' and for the c,apital region modalities a§ to how to implement tbose of Delhi When we have sufficient ~as in proviSions of the Act. Even today, in my Godavari basin, one of the users of this is State of Rajasthan, the transmission losses the power generation people. Tbe question are to tbe extent of 30-35 per cent. This is that Bas is to be used eitber for mak ing 10. is tbe loss to tbe nation. How the fertillzers or for generation of power. So. it Ministry is going to avert this loss and what will depend upon how much gas is available measures have been taken ? for power generation. It is true that gesta- tion period for gas-bar-ed thermal power SHRlMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: plant is tbe lowest and we can produce This traDsmis.sioD and distribution loss is power at tbe eal1iest. So, therefore, if sas 17 0,111 .""" CHAITRA 9, '910 (SAICA) Drill AM,,,,, 18 I. available, we would definitely like to make hlgb power (lOKW) TV transmitter each at use of it for leneration of power. Regard- Katihar and DaltongBnj and a low power In. tbe earlier question, I would like to add (100 W) TV transmitter each at Beptarai, that it Is true that due to transmission Bo~aro. Cbaibasa, Forbelganj, Giridih, Josses, much of our power revenue is loat Gopalganj, Madhubani, Motihari, Sabarll, and utilisation of power purpose is affected Sasaram, Siwan and Sitamarhi. So, transmission and distribution losses, actually, mean-I have stated earlier also- (Tram/at/on] SO per cent of it is theft. Tecbnicalloss is only 10 per cent. In Rajasthan, if it is 3S percent, you easily take it that nearly 20 per SHRIM ... Tf PRABHAwATl GUPTA: cent is due to theft and theft means straigh- Doordarshan hac; become a powedul medium tway loss to the revenue because those of communication througb its transmitting people have stolen and utilised power with· centres and national programmes. You out paying for it. That is why we have have stated in your reply tbat 60 new framed a law-Central legislation and also transmitters are schedl!led to be let up in State legislation. It is necessary that this the wbole country I want to know from law should be implemented firmly. the bon. Minister tbat out of those what WIll be the number of the low-power and the higb power transmitters separately. How CommiSSioning of Doordarsban is it justified tbat ignoring the selected transmitters locations, you bave set up Doordanban centres at tbe locations which were not *497. SHRI\f \11 PRABHAWATI selected for tbe purpose and what is the GUPTA: Will tbe Minister of INFORMA- number of such locations? TION AND BRODCASTING be pleased to state: ~Eng1i.rh] (a) the name of places where low power SHRI S KRISHNA KUMU: Sir. transmitters or bigb power transmitters of in the remaining two year period of the Doornarshan will be commissioned during Seventh Plan, in Bihar, two high-power 1988-89; transmitters will he installed at Katihar and Daltonganj and 12 low-power transmit- (b) whether there js any proposal to set ters as listed out in the answer to the main up low power transmitters or high power question. (Interruptions) transmitters in North Bihar; and THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT· (c) jf so, the details thereof? ARY AFFAIRS ANO MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (SHRI H K.L. BHAGAT): The HOD. MINISTRY OF INFORMA TION AND Member wants a 1I,t of high·power and low· BROADCASTIVG (SHRI S. KRISHNA power transmitters functtoninB in the country KUMAR) : (a) to (c). A Statement is given or proposed to be brought about. I will below. send her a list. Statement MR. SPEAKER . We might all Ute to have it (a) About 60 new TV transmitters are tentatively scheduled to be commission ed (Tran .. lolion) into service during 1988·89. The locations of these transmitters havo still to be decided. SHRIMATI PR.,-\BHAWATI GUPTA: Two high-power and 12 low-power trans- (b) and (c). The Seventh Plan of Door- mitters are likely to be installed in Bibar. darshan io respect of the State of Bihar My conslituency-Motihari is also there includes, inter alia, tbe establisbment of a in this hst. Motihllfl is a border district ·19 Oral "-wI MARCH 29. J988 DIGI"_', 20 Delr Nepal. You have proposed to install machine depends OR a oumber of,tbiDII. we a low·power transmitter thore. But keep- bave to see every thing. we have to ICC its iDa in view its geograpbical and natural channel etc It baa. therefore, been proposed conditions and tbe fact tbat tbe Government to set up a low pt.wor transmitter. First )'ou of Nepal has set up a bigb power transmitter have the low·power transmitter. in Viraanj, a hiah-power transmitter should be set up there because if a low-power transmitter is set up there, tben the program- SHRIMATI VIDY AVATI eHATUR· mes will be intercepted by tbe transmitting VBDI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, may) know from Centre of Nepal. The Government have set the hon. Minister whether it is true that up mICrowave station in Jammu cl Kashmir. his predecessor Mr. Panja, tbe tben Minister The same arrangement sbould also be made of Information and Broadcasting, bad visited bere. A high power transmitter sho uld be Khajurabo last year and tbere in tbe presence .installed in Motihari and an all powerful Door- of correspondents, public representatives and darsban studio should be set up in local respected persons, he declared to set Muzaffarpur. This is a backward and up a TV. transmitter at Cbhatarpur before rural area. (Interruplion8) tbe commencement of Kbajurabo Festival in Marcb. But, sir, the transmitter bas not SHRI NAWAL KISHORB SHARMA: been IDstalled as yet. Although equipments Hon Minister, kindly speak in Hindi. You and other necessary items have been received know Hindi. there but installation wor k bas not yet started. They have demanded two rooms [Engl""] from tbe State Government. The State SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT : I very much Government has provided two rooms in tbe appreciate and understand the concern of rest h:>use tbere but the transmitter bas not tbe Hon. Member for Motihari, her consti- yet been instatJed Now, they are demanding tuency and her request for high power the transfer of the whole of the rest house. transmitter. I just wish to bring to her Tbe tben Minister of Information and Broad· kind notice that the low power transmitters. casting had assured tbat tbe transmitter (Inter,,/prlons) , would be installed by '985-86 but now It 15 1988 and tbe same bas not been installed (TrcmslatlolU1 as yet. A U H.P. power traosmitter IS proposed to be set up there. I would Jake SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI : Ever},one is to know from tbe hon. Mmister the time requestiDa you to speak in Hindi. You can by whicb it IS like)y to be instalJed tbere? speak • . , (lnterruptlo",) SHRI H.K L. BHAGAT: Mr. Speaker, MR. SPEAKER : Wbat is this fun? Sir. 1 aOil not aware if any commitment regar- dlDg installation of tbe transmitter before lEt-gill"] Marcb 19"8 was made by my bon. predeces- What is tbis? (Interruptiolll) I don't sor. However, I would like to tell, particularly allow anybody. (/n,eTTuptlolU) wben it bas been aiked by tbe hoo. Member in the House, tbat tbe matter regardinl the NobodY has my permission. installation of transmitter in Cbbatarpur is in (Tra"./ariolu) process. You can speak in any language you like. SHIU MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Mr. Speaker, Sir. the people of Rajasthan, ( InterrllPtioru) s,ecially from tbe two district of Jhunjhunu and Sikar, are also aspiring for tbe T.V. SHRI H K.L BHAG AT : I appreciate transmitter to be installed tbere. Pirst one tbe concern of the Hon Member for ber is my constituency and the later is yours. constitueDCY. M otibari is a lread)' w ,be even tben tbere is no proposal for a setting lilt. She bas requested to lOt up tbere a up a transmetter there. The Hon. Minister HiP-power transmitter in stead of a 10w- bas been kind enougb to us. I. therefore, power. But. we have to lee maDy things hope that our area may also bave aT.V • for setting up a bigb power transmitter. Its transmitter loon if be pays some attention 21 CHAITaA " 1910 (SAKAl to it and wUl provide aT.V • transmitter in URAL GAS (SHill BRAHMA DV'IT): (I) my constituency Jbunjbunu? to (d). There is a proposal under CODIidcra. tion for tbe exten.ion of tbc HBJ Pipeline MR.. SPEAKBll: Mr. Khan, you to Delbi and to ,upply PI to DESU (ot remind bon. Minister about tbe assurance. power generation. GAIL have held prelimi- nary discuuions with contracton, iDcludiDl Spie Cap.. , in this resard. SHRI MOHO. AVUB KHAN: Yes sir. HOIl. Minister bas given an assurance. May I know by wbat time he will be able to SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY: implement it? The Mini.ter hu admitted tbat the proposal do exist for tbe extension of tbe HBJ pipeline to Delbi. That being the case, will SHlU H K.L. BHAGAT: Sir, the he be good enouah to gjve us some detail. original question is related to Bihar. But, including tbe cost involved? He also stated now you have raised a question about tbat some preliminary negotiations hav. Rajasthan. There is aT.V. expansion been held; in whicb case with what result? proaramme for Rajasthan also. The bon Member wanted to know certain tbinp about his area. I will Jot him know. But SHRI BRAHMA Dun: Negotiations are 1D a very preliminary stage. We are with due regard. I would like to make an bumble submission that tbe speed by which talkIng to the contractors of HBJ includinl the programme bas been carried out during Sple Capas and also their sub contractors. ThiS proposal has not yet been cleared by tbe last one and half year in India bas no paraJlet in tbe world. the Government. We have not yet decided wbat to do. It is under consideration but to aVOid delay we are also talking. Extension MR. SPEAKER: We want tbis speed of tb IS pipeline will take place in three to be malDtalDed. The question as sucb was parts -purchasing of pipes. coating of pipes not there but it has now been raised. and laying of pipes. These negotiations Ire being carried on just to avoid delay but no (English] firm decision bas been taken that it should be extended upto Oclhi. Edension of HBJ Pipeline Co Delhi SHRI DHAITAM SRIRAMA MURTY: Tbe point is this IS a new line That being *498. SHRI BHATfAM SRIRAMA so why should negotiations be confined only MURTY: Will tbe Minister of PETRO- to the previous contractors? Why not it be LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased opened to ncw contractors so tbat tbey also to state: participate in the discussions? Their rates may be cheaper. Wby not tbat possibility whetber Government propose to be explored? Tbe hne which was oriainally extend tbe Hazira-BJjapur-Jagdlshpur aas planned and in\talled was mainly for the pipeline to Delhi for power generation by purpose of fertiliser plants. The fertiliser 1989; plants were Dot able to utilise the gas availablo. In viow of that GAIL was iocurrinl tremendous loss. It was in that (b) if so, the cost tbereof; light tbat PI was chosen to be diverted to New Delhi or there are other valid rcasoos (c) whetber preliminary talks were hold involved? What is the loss involved and in this regard with tbe HDJ pipelinc contrac- what is tbe basis of thinking of this? What ton; Spie Capag; and is the specific purpose and the details about it and tbe names of the coDtracton? (d) if so, tbe results tbereof? SHRI BRAHMA DUT r: As far IS tbe first part of tbe question is cooc:emcd I THB MINISTBll OF STATE OF THE would say we are only initiating tbe neaotia- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NAT- dons aDd if we think tbat rc-invitiDa ~ MARCH 29, 198H quotations and tenders from other parties is cbemical complex of Gujarat has been required tbat we will do but tbis can only cleared but the MlDister in his reply has said be done after a firm decIsion bas been that final deCIsion on tbese applications will taken. AI. reaards extension of pipehne some be taken. Already it has come in the of our fertiliser plants have been delayed, newspapers that petro-chemical complex of namely. Shabjabanpur, Sawaimadhopur, etc. Gujarat bas been cleared ... (/nle""plionl) and our power plants are also delayed to tbat extent. So we arc thinking of having SHRf J VENGAL RAO: It is not yet some fallback consumers we can use for tbe cleared. ps already available to us. Tben DESU plant is consuming lot of liquid fuel like naphtba which can be replaced by gas and SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA: In West it will be instrumental in saving the environ- Bengal Haldia petrochemical complex is ment of Delhi. It is all under examination, already behind tbe schedule by 1 8 months. The delay in the impJemention of tbis project caused a grea t harm. In view of tbis. I want Petrochemical Complex in Gujarat to know wben the petro-chemical project of Baldia will be cleared by the Central + Government. *~OO. SllRI AliT KUMAR SAHA\ : SHRI HA" NAN MOLLAH : SHRI J VENGAL RAO: I know that Will the MlOister of INDUSTRY be the Hon. Member will ask about Haldia pleased to state : also. I give tbat information. All the clearance from the Government of India have been given. Now its implementation (a) whether any cecl"lon bas been taken duty is with the West Bengal Industrial on tbe request of GO'iernmeot of Gujarat Development Corporation and the joint for setting up a pctrochemkal complex lQ venture of Mr. Gocllka. the State; SHRI J. BASUDEB ACHARIA: He has cleared. (b) if so, the details thereof; and SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHAR Y : reason~ (e) if not, the for delay in takJDg NothlDg is left with you DOW? final decision thereon 7 lHE MINISTER OF Il'DUSTR Y SHR} AMAL DATTA : Can yOU show a Jetter. (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (c). Some applications for the setting up of a petro- SHRI VENGAL RAO: I have chemical complex in Gujarat have been J. categorically told you that all the clearances received. Final decIsion on these applications \\ere given by us. Now the implementation will be taken after a number of issues is with the West Bengal Industrial Develop- relating to availabIlity of feed stock. tie up of resources. etc. are resolved. ment Corporation and jOint venture person is Shri Goenka. SHRI AlIT KUMAR SAHf\: Sir, my questien is probably clubbed with Hannan SHRI AJIT K U MR SAHA : May Monab's. The head of my question 8nd 1 know from the Hon. Minister when the tail of his question have been clubbed tbe apphcations for setting up tbis petro- toaetber tactfully 8,oidina the question 1 cacmical complex in Gujarat were taken and wanted to ask. the date of approval of tbis project? Mil. SPEAKER. ! That is bow marriagaes SHRI l. VENGAL RAO: From Baldia. take place. I come to Gujarat. The first application whicb was filed, was rejected. Now in SHlU AlIT KUMAR SABA: What is October 1985, the application was filed by die ""? Sir, 1 am happy that petro- Oujarat State Petro-chemical Corporation Oral .,4",."" CHAlTllA 9, 1910 (SAKA) 24 Ltd and Reliance Industries for this project. May I koow from the han. Minister as to They are under tbe consideration of the what is the reaction of the Government in Government. this reprd because no final decision in the matter has .0 far been takeD. 1 want to SHlU HANNAN MOLLAH: Sir, I know whether the Hon. Minister proposes request tbe Minister to tell us whether our to grant a petro-cbemical complex in Bihar country is facing a serious shortage in the or tbe proposal as such bas been shelved? supply of HOP. LLDEP, and PVC. And because of that shortage, whether we are MR. SPEAKER: Is it a question related forced to spend our hard-earned bard to Bihar? curency. In view of tbat, I would also like to know whether tbe country and the Govern- ment are concerned for the immediate settlDg up of petro-chemical complex to save our SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: There is a foreign excbange. In this context, wbetber proposal for Barauni. We are sending a it is in the national interest to keep Haldia team in the first week of April •... (Interrp- petro-cbemical project pending for seven tion,) years and still it is not commissioned? It should bave been commiSSioned a few years Capacity Utili,ation of Cemeat back. What is the reason? I would like to Industry know categorical1y whether there is a political motivation or whether because it is * 50 t. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHB in West Bengal, they are not doing it. PATIL : Wall the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : I wrote a letter to the Prime Minister. He wrote to me that it Is still under consi- whether the cement industry bas deration. He is now saying that 1t was lately been work 109 at a very low capacity cleared. I would like to know when it was utilisation of 70 per cent ; cleared and and when it will be commis- sioned. (b) if so, tbe reasons therefor ; and SHRI J. VENGAL RAO; About (c) tbe steps taken to improvo tbe capa- HaldiB, all the Ministry clearances city utilisation of the industry? are over. The implementation portion is witb tbe West Bengal Industrial Develop- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTY ment Corporation .... ( Inttrruption,) (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) wbether there iI any proposal to yetbylene. higb density polyethylene, and set up manufacturing units under his Minis- PVC resin has sbot up by over '0 per cent try in Kerala during the Seventh Plan; and in the world market; (b) if so, the details thereof? (c) whether the Indian Petrocbemicals Limited and the State Trading CoroporatioD THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND are importing tbis material; and MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHR1 VASANT SATHE) : (a) and (b) The (d) If so. from whicb country? Ministry has set up a unit of Indian Telephone Industries at Palghat in Kerala. The unit is presently implementing a THE MINISTFR OF INDUSTKY major expansion programme to manufac- (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) and (0). At ture Digital Trunk Automatic Exchanges, present the domestic availability of plastics RAX. and PABX. is not adequate to meet the inc.'genous demand in full and therefore the deficit is being met throu@h imports. The inter- Employment to Persons wbose Land national prices of plastics have gone up by bas been acquired by ONGC more than SOper cent during the last one year. The uptrend in international prices • 93. SARI G.I. PATEL: Will the continues. Minister of PFTROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS be pleased to state : (c) Yes S'r. (a) whether the oil and Natural Gas (d) Braz ol , France, ltaJy. Qatar, Saudi Commission give employment to at least one Arabia and Yugoslavia. person from eD ;;h family whose land bas been acquired b) them in GUJarat; Hydtl Potential in Kef81a (b) if so, the details tbereof; and *49Q Sl1RI K. MOHANDAS: Will (b) jf not, tre reasons therefor? the Mhister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a tt-e total ~ydel potential in Kerala; NATURAL GAS ,SHRI BRAHMADUTT): (a) to (c). Oil and natural Gas Commi- (b) ho\\ much has been exploited so far; sion has been following the instructions of Government with regard to giving preference (C' whether there is any plan to tap this in employment to rersons whose land has potential fu':\'; and been acquired. In G ujara t during the last three years employment has been gi .. en to (d) if so, the details thereof? 59 such persons. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Rise in Price of Plastics DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MlNl~TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI *495 SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: SUSHl' A ROHATGI): (a) The total hydel Will the Ministry of INDUSTRY be pleased potential in Kerala is estimated at to state: about 1 ~O I MW at 60 per cent load factor. (a) whether tbe pla,tics WIll cost more (h) The instal:ed capacity in Kerala, in tbe country in the near future; atpre.;;cnt, is about 1476 MW. (c) and fd) . Hyde) projects with a total (b) if so, whether the price of ~Jfferent ~ varieties of plastiCii such as low denSIty pol- capacity of about 11 MW are under implo- 31 MARCH 2'. 1988 ",rllI,,, .4MtH1. 32 mentation in Kerala. In addition, the Cen- (e) if so, the details tbereof? tral Electricity Authority has accepted, in principle, a capacity of about 200 MW for THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY implementation in the State. (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. Prices of Harmooe Preparations (b) Use of stainless steel has reduced the overall weight of the bus. However, as the bus bas just been put into service, it *SO'l. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI : Will is too early to assess the impact on fuel the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to performance. state: (c) The bus body has been fabricated (a) whether the hormone preparations at the Namakkal (Tamil Nadu) Workshop are beina sold at very higb prices in tbe of Anna Transport Corporation. country; and (b) if so, the steps being taken to make (d) and (e). Stainless steel buses have these preparations available at reasonable just been introduced in Tamil Nadu and prices? Maharashtra. Large scale manufacture and usage of stainless steel buses will depend on the cost factor as well as savings in the THB MINISTER OF INDUSTRY fuel and maintenance expenditure, the per- (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : Maoufacture of Stainless Steel Boses (a) whether Government of Gujarat has demanded to raise tbe royalty on crude oil from Rs. 192 to Rs. 800 per metric .S03. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : tonne; SHRIMOHANBHAIPATEL: (b) whether Government of Assam, a Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be major crude producing State, has put up a pleased to state : claim of Rs. 350 per metric tonne; (a> whether it is a fact that a stainJeu (c) if so, wbether Union Government steel bus with aerodyoamJc design bas been propose to give different rates of royalty to launcbed in Salem; different States; and (b) whether it wilJ Jead to substantial (d) if so, tbe reasons therefor? fucl economy due to weight reduction as well as lower maintenance expenditure; THE MIN1STER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (c) the factory in which it has bten NATURAL GAS (SHRI RRAHMA DUTT): manufactured; (8) and (b). Government of Gujarat and Government of Assam have demanded Cd) whether Government propose to increase in rate of royalty on crude oil manuracture this type of buses on a large production (,om Rs. 192.00 per MT to acale and introduce them in other cities Rs. 683.50 and Rs. 34000 per MT also; and respectively. 5S W"" .. AnIwt. CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAltA) 34 (c) No, Sir. The department will like to undertake tbe plan provided the necessary resources (d) Does Dot arise. could be a1located. Telephones On Asking [Trans/alion] ·505. S!iRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS l\fRTP enquiry into spare parts sopplied be pleased to state : to steel entrepreneurs (a) by which year Government propose to provide telephones to tbe people on asking; and *506. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased (b) the details as to bow Government to state: propose to achieve this objective ? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND (a) whether the Monopolies and Restric- MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS tive Trade Practices Commission has received (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) and [b). A complaints about various irregularities statement is given below. committed in supply of goods and spare parts to the public and private sector steel entrepreneurs; Staf~ment (a) and (b). The Department of Tele- (b) if so, the details tbereof; communications has prepared a perspective plan to provide telephones practically on demand by the year "0 10 A D. (c) whether Government have lakco action tbereon; and It has. been estimated that this will call for increasing the number of direct excbange (d) if so, the details thereof? lines to about 190 lakhs by the turn of the century from tbe present 36 lakhs. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. It has been further estimated that this will call for an investment of the order of Rs. 50,000 crores at current prices. (b) to (d). 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MANDAL : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Joint Venture "'th BalJraln (a) whether the attention of Govern- ment has been drawn to the news item *509. SHRI TARIQ ANWAR: Will captioned ·'JBRD to study drug industry" tb~ Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to appearing in tbe Calcutta edition of Business state: Standard dated 3 March, 1988, and (a) whether it is a fact that proposals have come from Bahrain to set up joint (b) if so, what are the considerations ventures ; and which have weighed with Government in approaching the Wor Id Bank to make a study of tIJe Indian drug lDdustry ? (b} if so, in which field the joint ven- tures will be set up ? THB MINISTER OF 1" DUSTRY (SHRl J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY A news item to thiS effect bas appeared in (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) and (b). Business Standard. Howew, no such study The Minister for Development and Industries of Bahram visited India from 21 st to 26th bas been entrusted (0 World Bank.. February, 1988 at the inVitation of the MlDlster of Industry DUring discussions, Speed Post Scheme BabralDlan side showed mterest in coope- ration with India ID the fields of Petro- *508. SHRI ANOOrCHAND SHAH: chemicals, alummium, automobile tyres and 'Vill tb~ MlOister of COMMUNICATIONS tubes, Iron and steel, fertilIzers and small be pleased to state : medium industries. No speCific proposals for tbe setting up of Jomt ventures 10 any of these fields have been received. (a) whether the • Speed Post~' scheme prOVides for refund If a letter despatched by means of sucb post is not dell vered by tbe Production of T"o and Four Wheeler stipulated time ; Automobiles (b) if so, to what extent and if not, the ·510. SHRl BRAJA MOHAN reasons therefor; and MOHANTY: Will tbe Mmister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : (c) what i& the public response to tbis scheme 'I (a) whether any steps are being taken to reduc! the productIOn of two-wheeler aod four-wheeler automobiles operated by petrol THE MINIS1ER OF ENERGY AND t , ... heck the consumption of petrol ; Mt-IISTER OF COMM UNICATIONS (SHRJ VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yel.. Sir. (a) if so, the details tbereof ; and (b) In the InJand speed post service, tbe speed post fee is refunded If the item is (c) whether Government are taking any not delivered withlD the stipulaled time. 1he other steps for reducing the consumption of scbeme of International Speed Post provides petrol and if so, the details thereof ? for tbe refund of tbe dl fference between the speed post charge and the airmail postage THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY applicable for a re.iatered item of tbe same (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO) : (a) No, Sir. 41 W,ittd "4118.",, CllAITR.A 9, 1910 (SAKA) (b) Does not arise. (b) whether these points are dangerous, especialJy during rains ; and (c) Production of fuel efficient vehicles is being encouraged through upgradation of (c) if so, whether Government propose technology, fiscal iocentives and fuel to improve the embarkment/disembarkment efficiency norms. facilities and if so. the details thereof? Coal reserves in Rajmahal area Bihar THE MINIS1ER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE 5135. SHRIMATI MADHUREE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SINGH: Will the Minister of ENERGY be SUSHI LA ROHTAGI): THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Power Corporation. Iofrastructural works DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL on the project and survey of associated DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF transmission lines is in proarcss. INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a> to (d). An evaluation of tbis scbeme in lastallatlon of 25.lloe Exchanlel some selected districts of U.P. and Orissa was conducted by Oiri Institute, Lucknow in July 1987 for the cases sanctioned during S139. PROF. NARA~ CHAND 1983-84 and 1984-85 wblcb shows tbat PARASHAR: Will tbe Minister of bousehold income increased by 62.23 per COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: cent and tbe per unit annual net income increased to about 2 1 per cent ir:l tbe (a) whetber instructions bave been earnings over 1 or 2 years. The study team issued for preparics a circJewise list of bas observed tbat the SEEUY Scbeme has sanctioned 2 S-line excbanles and the pro. helped in employment generation, Improving gramme for tbeir installation in accordance the household income and has benefitted the with the 10lh payment (final payment) ; needy persons in establishing their own ventures offoring full time employment besIdes (b) if so, the details of instructions creating a favourable impact over tbe eco- issued; nomie scene of the area. Katlaalgari Project in -\ssam (c) the programme of Himacbal Pradesb Telecom. Circle and the names of tbe exchanges to be taken up for installation ; 5138. PROF. PARAG CHALIHA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (d) whether any time hmit of six state: mODtbs has been fixed for en5urina the Installation of a 25 -line SAX after tbe data (a) the factors causing transmISSIon loss of 10th final payment; and in supply of electricity ; (e) whether the entire waitlDg list in all (b) whether transmission lo~s is increasing the SAXs sanctioned during tbe last tbree and if so. the position in tbis regard, State- yeals would be Wiped out by providmg all wise and in centrally operated systems for tbe connections ? the last three yean ; and (c) the details of tbe present position of THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND the Kathalauri Project in Assam ? MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes. Sir. THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (b) Instruction issued arc aiven in the MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI statement below. SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (bl. Tbe transmission losses are due to energy dissi- pation in the conductors used for the (c) Tbe new excbanges programmed for transmission of power and very mucb depend installa tion in Himacbal Pradesb Telecom. upon the loadinl level of tbe transmission Circle are Mair f S.P. Terrace. Rishiksb, lines. The continued augmentation of Patlandar. Ladroc. DbaroUtalan, Bbuari, transmission systems is reducing tbe loading Dwebar, Salooni, Uhal, Janaleberi, Mabori, levels on the transmission lines thereby Haccbakian, JOULajue and Ruh. restricting the losses in the transmission • )'Items. (d) No, Sir• (c) The execution of Oas-based power project at Kathalluri in Ataam has been le) Yes, Sir. proarelsively lubJect to catnutod to the Nortb·EastetD Elcctrig technical feasibility and avail_billt, of itOI'll. 45 41 S 140. SHRI R. JEEV ARATHINAM : THE MINISTER OF PARLJAME'!T- wm the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased AR Y AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF to state: INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H K L. BHAGAT) : (a) to (d)- It (a) the total number of emplo}ces work- ha~ always been the endeav('ur of Door- ing in BHEL plant at Ranipet, North Arcot darshan to in-prove upon its programmes district. Tamil Nadu; including the programmes produced by Doordarshan Kendra. Cu~tack. The Pro- gramme Advi"ory Committee attached to (b) out of them, how many are from Doordarshan Kendra, Cuttack suggtsts and the North Arcol dbtrict and how maoy from advises improvement in programmes telecast other districts; and by that Kendra. Staff of Doordarshan Kendra. Cutt~ck is sponsored for attending (c) whether there is any proposal to Workshops and trainings to improve upon recruit only hands from North Arcot district their skills from time to time. Surveys during the course of eXf'an~ioo of the conducted by the Audience Research Unit above project? and the letters received from the viewer~ are taken into consideration for improve- ment of the prograrrmes. This is a conti- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY nuous process. (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO) : (a) and (b). The number of employees at the Ranipet unit of DHEL is 1634. The number of on production by ONGC employees who have been recruited through Employment Excba nge /lTIJPo\ytecbnicJ\and 5142. CH. RAM PARKASH: Will the losers category is 176ft, out of the non- Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL executive category of 232 I. GAS be plea!.ed to state: (c). There is no oroposal at present for (a) v.hether the Oil and Natural Gas expansion of the Unit. Any requirement of Commislon (ONGC) bah achieved a recQrd man-power that may arise io future will be monthly elude oil production dunng tbe met as per the prescribed procedure. first six months of the current financial year; and Regional Programmes Telecast by Cuttack TV Centre (b) if so, the details thereof? 5J41. SHRIMATI JAYANTI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE PATNAIK: Will the Minister of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE ALAM) : be pleased to state : (a) and (b), ONGe produced 13.98 million Wrltl,,, An.rwe" MARCH 2'. 1,88 tonnes of crude oil during April-Scptem- THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THB ber, 1987 as against 13.48 million tonncs DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- planned. LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a> and (bl. The target for 1988-89 under Moclerni5atiOD of Telephone Exchanges in Self-employment scheme for educated Kottayam District of f(erala unemployed youth will be fixed after 315t March, 1988 after tbe budget is passed by the Parliament. Under tbe Scheme the S143. SHRI SURESH KURUP: WIll Central Government allocates to States/UTa the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be only physical targets in terms of number of pleased to state . beneficiariec; and do not allot funds to implement the scheme The loans arc sanc- (a) the number of telephone e~changes tioned by the banks on the recommendations whicb have been modernised in KottByam of the Ole Task Forces. The capital district of Kera I!; ; subsidy to the extent of 2S% on each loan contracted IS paid out of Central Budget (b) whether the remammg exchanges routed thrvu~h Reserve Bank of India. will be modernised before tbe end of the Seventh Plan; and Decentralisation of Procurement of Stores. lo\ent(\ries by Central (c) if so, tbe j.!t:t1s thereof? Coalfields Limited THE MINIS fER OF E~ERG Y AND 5145. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA MINISTER OF COM'v1UNICATIONS MALIK: Will the MInister of ENERGY be (SHRI VASANT S\THE la) There are pleased to state: S3 exchanges an Kottayaro di .. tnct of Kerala out of which 2 ex:banges at Changanacherr} (a) whether the Central Coalfields LimIted have decided to decentralise procure- and Vaikom h tV': been converted IOto electronic exchanges. ment of Slores and mventones; (b) whether It Will help the lDdustry; (b) and (c> The exchan~es planned for conversion into electronIC exchanges before tbe end of 7th plan are Kottayam and (C) whether the employees of the Central Kudavocboor while tfte rest are planned to Coalfields LImited have opposed it; aDd be modernised progressIvely durmg the .uccessive five year plans subject to availabi- (d) If so, Lhe details of theu obJections? lity of equipment. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE Target for self-employmeot Scheme for MINISTR Y OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. Educated UnelDployed Youtb JAFFER SHARIEF): (a) to (d). Central Coalfields Limited has a Central Purchase 5144. SHRf ANANDA PATHAK: office 10 Calcutta. This purchase office is Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased not beIDg wound up but Will continue to to state : function. It IS only the purchase of a few Items of low value and low consumption de-centralisation. However, the de-centrali- Telephone Niasm have placed orden for sation will allow the Calcutta purchase supply of 4 lakh Push Button Telephooel office to concentrate on procurement of vital at an estimated cost of Rs. 40 crores for and high value items of stores and avoid Delhi and Bombay_ delay. in procurement. (b) Purchase orders have been placed OD the basis of offers received in response SettlDg op' of Rubber based Industries to open tenders S t 46. SHRI AJOY BISWAS: Will the (c) The Indian Telephone Industries Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: have taken up the manufacture of push button telephones but their sapply is stiJI (a) wh~ther there is any proposal to set not commenced. up rubber ba.ed industries in the country, particularly in Tripura where plenty of raw Setting op electronfc telephone exchange In material is nailable; Bhbhum district of West Bengal (b) if so, the details thereof; and 5148. SHRI GADADHAR SAHA: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (c) if not, the reasons therefor? be pleased to state: THE MINI~TP~ OF INDUSTRY (8) whether there is any proposal to (SHRI J VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). set up an electronic telephone exchange in Proposals for the setting up of any the Birbhum district. West Bengal; industry, includmg rubber based industry, are considered on merits as per existing guide- (b) if so, when and the details thereof; lines. No proposal for the setting up of any and rubber based industry in Tripura is pendmg with the Government. (c) if not, the reasons therefor '? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Purchase of Bush Button telephones MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). A S 147. DR. B. L. SHAILESH: Will 100 line electronic excbange was proposed the Mmister of COM MUNICATIONS be to be set up at Sainthla in Birbbum district pleased to state: of West Bengal. The same has been com- missioned on 14. '1.87. tbere is no further (a) the num' er and estimated cost of proposal to set up any other electronic push-button telephones whIch tbe Mahansgar exchange ID Btrbhum dIstrict durina remain- Telephone Nigam Ltd. Delhi and Bombay ing period of 7th five year plan. is purchasing presently; Industrial units in Central sector (b) the mode of purchase, whether anY tenders were floated or the p'Jrchase is being 5149 SHRIMA II BIBHA GHOSH made by negotiations only; and GOSW AMI: WIll the Minister of INDUS- TR Y be pleased to stare : (cl the reasons for not taking up the (a) the number and names of the manufacture of thiS type of telephone industnal units in the central or centraU, instruments at the Indian Telephone Indus- sponsored sectors set up during tbe last tries Ltd • Bangalore or 10 its Naini UDlt 1 three years, State-wise; and THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND (b) the details of the investment mado MINl,TER OF COMMUNICATIONS in these units during the above period, (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) ~abaDagar State-wise? 5. "",,,.~, $2 THB MIN,STBR OF INDUSTRY (SHIll J. VENGAL llAO) : Ca) Details 1 2 of tbo unit. so far set up in tbe Central 23. Cbaodiprh public sector have beeD liven in page 18 1 0.S4- to t 98 of Volume-t of Public Bnterprises lif. Delhi 689.65 Survoy 1986·87 placed on tbe Tab}e of 25. Goa 17.48 the House on 2Stb February, 1988. Details 26. PODdicherry of important projects costing more than 0.87 Rs. 100 crores under implementation as on 27. Otben and UnaJJoca&ed • 614.J3 31.3.1981 have beeb given in paaes 86 to 90 of the same Public Enterprise. Survey. Total: 20728.60 Information for tbe last three years alone is not avanable. Production AP A (b) A statement showing tbe State-wise .r (; break-up of increase in Gross Block duril'g S , SO. SHRI R. L. BHATIA: Will tbe the three years upto 31. 3 .198 7 is gi vcn Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state: below. (a) whetber tbe small scele units are StatellleDt banned for setting up new units for produc- tion 0' 6 APA, wbereas large scale units (Rs. in crores) nre allowed to do so and Government are grantiflg registr.tion for the same; and 81. Name of State/ Increase in Gross (b) if so, lbe reaction of Government No. Union Tcrritory Block during the thereto? three years upto 31.3.1987 THE MIN1STER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGALA ;tAO) : (a) Creation ] Andbra Pradesh 2778.40 . of further capacity for 6 APA is be;ng 2. Assam 1357.57 restricted for aJl sectors. 3. Bihar )135.43 (b) Does not arise. 4. Gujarat J426.02 S. Haryaoa 237.89 6. Himachal Pradesh 316.38 ,. Jammu and Kashmir 69.~6 Rajebat Hydro-Electric Project, 8. Karnataka 393.99 Madbya Prade.sb 9. KcraJa 243.22 5151. SfiRIMATl VJDYAVATI 10. Madhya Pradesh 3l7S.S 7 CHATURVEDI: Will the Minister of It. Mabarasbtra 3303.: 8 ENERGY be pleased to state : 12. Maoipur 8.36 13. Meabalaya 2.18 (a) the tjme by which approval is likely to be accorded to 3x1.S Meaawatt Ra.i&hat )4. NapJand 5.19 Hydro-Electric Project of Madhya Pradesh IS. Orissa 1639.91 under the Forest Conserv'tion Act, J 980; 16. Punjab 77.40 aod 17. Rajasthan 133.'3 18. Tamit Nadu 46996 (b) the time by wbich Planoio, Com.. J 9. Tripura 67.4S mission is likely to accord approval to 20. Uttar Pradesb 1381.19 tbe project report ? 21. West Bonpl 1179.S7 mE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 22. Andamao and Nicobar 3.68 DEP1T. OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY CllArtu " 1910 (AAkA) "rltt", ~", 0; ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA Det4ils of varioUi incenti_ are livea in l\OarAOI) : (a) and Settiog .p of Iadll.trles in Ea.tera .ad (b) whether aU these companies have North Easten Regioos forwarded the requisite information; and 5152. SHlU SYED MASUDAL HUS- (c) if so, tbe details thereof? SAIN: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Government prop;)sc to DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DBVE- req"est industrialists to set up tbelr industnes LOPMENT IN THB MINISTRY OF 10 Eastern and North Eastern Region'; INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA- CHALAM): \ 983-84 '984-85 '985-86 1. T"repcneless esstntial oil Two soft drink manufacturers have depletion of reserves of superior grade and started that tbey are not directly importinl nereased production from mines bavina te- aDJ items. but are purchasing certain im- serves of inferior grade of coal. It is not ported ingredients locally which are used in possible to quantify tbe effect on the gene- tbe manufacture of soft dnoks. AU otbers ration of power due to such problems of bave stated tbat tbey ale not importinl raw quality. However, during tbe current year materials of using ind!gcnously available (April 1987 - February 1988) thermal imported raw materials. generation reacbed 135.5 Billion Units against the programme of 130.1 Billion One of the concentrate manufacturers units and the PLF acbieved during this had earlier started tbat natural essential oils period was 56.0 per cent dgainst tbe target and vegetables extracts, wbich are permitted of 53.2 per ccnt. under OGL to tbe actual users, were being imported for tbe manufacture of beverage (d) Steps taken by Government to im- concentrates. Now they bave started tbat prove the quality of coal include setting up tbey are Dot importing any raw materials for of a quality control organisation in each the manufacture of soft drinks. Coal Company, installation of coal bandling and screening plants in a phased manner. Supply of poor qualit~ of coal to State breaking of oversized coal and removal Electricity Boards of extraneous material manually to the extent possible at tbe loading points where- 5154. SHRI R. M, BHOYE: Will the ever coal handhng plants are not available Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: and providing of facilities of pre-inspection to consumers at loading points. wbether complalOts bave been re- ceived resarding tbe poor quality of coal Merger of National Antibiotics Ltd. with aupplied to State Electricll) Boards; Jndian Drugs aod Pharmaceuticals Limited (b) if so, to what extent poor quality of coal suppbed to State Electricity Boards has resulted in failure of power generation, 5' 55. PROF. SAfF-UD-DIN SOZ: Will State-wise; the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) whether the quality of coal so sup- plied bas deteriorated; If so, tbe reasons (a) whether tbere b any proposal under therefor; and consideration of Government for merger of National Antibiotics Limited, Pune witb tbe Indian Drugs ard Pharmaceuticals Limited; (d) tbe stepa taken by Government to restore/improve tbe quality of coa] to the and lausfacwlY level? (b) If so, tbe details tbereof ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PGWER IN THE THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (SHIlaints occur Hydro-Electric Projects la Orissa mainly because in some coal seams, stones, abales etc. are found interbedded witb coal. Indian coal is generally found to contain 5156. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: hiab asb content which bas been iD'creasing Will tbe Minister of ENERGY be pleased widI ,...~ of time on a~UDt of .radual to .late ; , CHAITkA 9. 1910 (SAKA) Written A",Wh, (a) whetber tbe esecution of sOlDe THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY bydro·electric projects in Oriua was under (SHRI G. VENGALA RAO) : Tho total tbe consideration of Government; claim of MIs. Indian Drugs and Pbarmac:eu- ticals Ltd. and MIs. Htndustan Antibiotics (b) if so, bow many of them have been Ltd. from the Drug Prices Equalisation cleared as on 31st December, 1987; and Account in respect of GAPA and other drop received from time to time_iS Rs. 1189.1' lakhs (upto September, 1987) and (c) tbe steps taken to expedite clearance Rs. 347.68 lakh (upto December, 19a5) tof all tbo bydro·elcctric projects proposed respectively. o be executed in Orissa ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) 1 be details of" on accounts" pay- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE ments made against tbe claims of tbeae MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI public sector units are given below : SUSHILA ROHT AGI) : (a) and (b). As on 3 t st December, 1981, 6 bydro-electric pro- Rupee, t. lakh jects which bave been approved were under implcmcntation in Orissa. UplO 85-86 86·87 87·08 Total6 (c) The clearance of projects for execu- M/s.IOPL 533.'15 92.33 292.88 918.96 tion depends upon tbe comprehensiveness of MIs. HAL 18S.50 33.98 76.87 296.35 tbe project reports, expeditiOUS response of the project authorities to tbe vanoUi (c) No, Su. comments/ob;,ervations of the Central Electricity Authority/Ccntral Water Com mission and tbe relative pnoClty accorded to (d) Does not arise. the project by the SUlte Government In terms of allocation of funds. All etlorts Programmes Telecast by Bugalore are being made to expedite clearal;lcc of DoordarsbaD projects for execution. Scbeme of Subsidy for GAPA 5158. SHRI SlUKANTHA DAnA NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR : Will S157. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD the Minister of INFORMATION AND SINGH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY BROADCASTING be pleased to state: be pleased to state: (a) whether the programmes telecast by (a) what was the claim of subsidy by Bangalore Doordarshan need improvements; the Jndian Drugs and Pharmaceutjcals Ltd. and the Hindustan Antibiotics Limited in respect of GAPA during the years from the (b) whether regional programmes are not initiating of Gheme of subsidy for GAPA; given importance in that DoordarsbaD Kendra; (b) the payment made to tbese public sector units during each year, year-wise; (c) If so, tbe steps taken to give more time for Kannada programmes; and (c) whether any ovor payments have heeD made; and (d) the details thereof ? (d) if so, on what basis and whetber the Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited THE MINISTER. OF PARLIAMEN- and tbe Hindustan Antibiotics Limited are to TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER Of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING return sucb IICesS payments with interest or (SHRI H.K.I,... BHAGAT) : (a> to (d). It hal Dot' MAtCH 29, 1 ~81 always been the constant endeavour of SDlln Seale Induskies D.)ordarsban includiog Balllalore Kendra, to improve upon its programmes. The sfatl' S 160. DR. T. KALPANA DEVI: workmg in this Kendra IS sponsored or Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be attendin& Workshops and trainings from pleased to state tbe number of sman scale time to time. Letters received from tbe industries, State·wise as on date? viewers are also taken into consideration for improvement in the programmes. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): A statement Till 1.2.' 988. the Doordarshan Kendra showing state-wise cumulative number of Banlalare bad only an intenm set up wltb SIDO Units granted permanent registration limited programme product10n faclhties. by State/U.T. Directorates of Industries With the commissioning of fun-fi~dged TV upto 31.12.1986 is liven below. studio on 1.2.88. this Kendra i'as started telecast of regional prOlrammes from 6.30 p.m. to 8.40 p.m. with effect from 18.3.~8. StatemeDt Expal!SiOD Programme of Mahan~gar S. State/Union Cumulative number of Telephone Nigam Ltd. No. Territory SIDO units granted permanent ~gistration 5159. S8&1 HARIHAR SOREN: as on 3 lat December, WIn the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 1986. be pleased to state : 1. Andhra Pradesh 53749 (a) whether Mahanaaar Telephone 2. Assam 7362 Nipm Ltd. propose to implement its vast expansion programms during the Seventh ~. Bihar 53540 Plan period ; 4. GUJarat 53433 5. Haryana 51310 (b) if so. the amount earmarked to implement the expansion programme ; and 6. Himachal Pradesh 8067 (c) the details of the programme inclu- 7. Jammu & Kashmir 15473 ded under the expansion programme in Delhi 8. Karnataka 49462 and Bombay? 9. Kerala 333243{P) THB MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 10. Madhya Pradesh 107271 MINISTER OF COMUNNICATJONS (SHRI It. Maharashtra 45227· VASANT SAmE): (a) and (b). Yes Sir. 12. Manipur 4220 The amount expected to be sper t to imple- 13. Mcchalaya 643 ment tbe exNlnsion programme is given 14. Nagaland 419 belo" : t S. Orissa 14120 1988·89 1989·90 16. Punjab 77331 Delbi RI. 2,8 Crores RI. 325 Crores 17. Rajastban 53135 68846 Bombay Rs. 31 S Crores Rs. 338 Crores 18. Tamilnadu 19. Tripura 2031(P) (C) The followinl expanlion of capacity 20. Uttar Pradesh 105746 in Delhi and Bombay has been planned durioa the remaining 7th Plan period. 21. Weat Benp) 1250'7 22. Sikkim 10 1988·89 1989-90 23. ADdaman &: Nicobar 424 97.000 linea 109.000 tines 24. Arunancbal Pradesb 248 98,100 linea 93,000 linea. 25. Chandiprb 2135 'I CHAITllA 9. JtlO (SAKA) W,ltttJt "4",.,, proarammes produced at Doordat.ban I 2 Kendra, Jalandhar and establisbment of a hi,h power TV transmitter at Fazilta. a low 26. Dadra " Nagllr Haveli 217 power transmitter at Gurdaspur and a tranI-- 27. Delbi 21240 poser at Talwara are ibcluded in the seventh Plan. 28. Ooa, Daman &. Diu 3700 29. Laksbadweep NIL {b) and (c). 30. Mizoram 1191 Akashva"t..,.Sites required for tbe new 31. Pondicherry 1840 schemes have been taken over. BLilding work are in progreqs. Orders have been Total 961330 placed for procuring equipments. The Akasb- vani projects are expected to be ready for commiSSIOning during 1989-90. Akashvao' and Ooorclarshao projects for Punjab Doorda'sha1l-Civil works at TV Centre. JaJaodhar are in progress. Orders for the S 161. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: part equipment for the projects ha\'c alOlio Wilt the Minister of INFORMATION AND been placed. BROADCASTING be pleased to state: MicrOW3\'e end-link at Bhatinda is (a) the details of the Akashv8ni and envi..;aged to be commis<;ioned during the l)oordarshan proj~cts approved for Punjab current Plan period, except tbe transmitter for the current PIe. a period ; at Fazilka whIch is expected t('l ta~e about 3 years for Implementation wl'ich is the (b) the etTorts made for tbe ilnplemen- normal lead tIme for completion (If proje1:t" tation of tbese proJects; and of this. nature. (c) the time likely to be taken for setting Reorientation of Production Prog"1lmme up tbese projects ? of Coal THE MINISTER OF PARLlA- 516'. SHRI VASHWANTRAO MENTARY AFFA.IRS AND MINISTER GADAKH PATIL: Will the Minister of OF INFORMATION AND BROADCAS- ENERGY be pleased to state: TING (SHRI H.K. L. BHAGAT): (a) AktUhvolfi-Duriog tbe current pJan peflod ,a) whether a stud} bas been made on new radio stations are proposed to be set up the need for reorientatton of tbe ploduction at Dbatinda and Patiala in Punjab Each of programme of coal ; and these stations Will be equipped witb 2 X 3 KW FM transmitter multi-purpose studJOs, (b) If so, the detaIls thereof and the action receiving facilities and staff quarters. Besides, plOrosed to be! ta"eD in this regard? at the AIR Station Jalandhar, it is proposed to upgrade the existing 50 KW MW Trans- mllter to 300 KW, mstal 2" 5 KW FM THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB transmitter for AddItional Channel and DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THB refurbbb and modernIse the old studiOS. MINIS1RY OF ENERGY (SARI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF): (a) and (b). Consi- D?Ordar" "ol'l-Besi des rephcen'ent of dering the importance of coal as the primary black and white ~tlJdi(l equipment by colour source of energy, Advisory Board on Enere equipment and augmentati0n of Programme entrU"ted to Shn K.S R. Chari, former Production facilities at Doordarshan Kendra Secretary. Department of Coal to stud, most pre~sJng problem~ lalandhar. replclcement of the existtng TV of \hlS industry. The transmitter at Amritsar which h's eerved its study COHo red s.)me a'aJor issu~s concerning useful hf" by a tran\mitter, provision of a coal lndu'>try iocl'.ldtng the issue related to microwave end-link at Sbadnda for relay of rroduction. The r~pol1 submitted by Sbri " MAltCH 29. 1988 ""I" .. .4",.,." Chari is being considered by a Sub- 12. 'Decontrol' of coal hu certain Committee of AdVisory Board on Energy to positive aspects tbat ma)' commend its adop- facilitate consideration of report by full tion. Board. According to the procedure laid down. Board's recommendations will be 13. Board o( Directors of Coal India considered by a special Committee of Limited needs to be reorganised and subsi- Secretaries to facilitate fo))ow up action. diary companies should be freed from interference by bolding company. E"ecutives should be permitted extension till the age of Tbe salient features of tbe report are 65 years. briefly set out below : 1. Though production bas increased, STD Facility In Ken.a the objective of oationalisation cannot be said to bave been fully achieved. 5163. SHRI P.A. ANTONY: Will the Minister of COMMU~ICATIONS be 2. Massive investments in import of pleased to state: technology and equipment have not reduced cost of production. (a) whether there is any proposal to provide STD facility at different places in 3. Import of coking coal can and sbould Kerala during 1988 and 1989 ; and be avoided by improving the performance of wasberies and delinking the suspect sources (b) if so, the details thereof? of supply. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 4. Quality base for statistical report MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS should be in terms of standard coal. (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yell, Sir. S. Concept of OMS should include all (b) Subject to timely availability of inputs instead of manpower alone. equipment, fol1owinl places in Kerala are likely to be provided witb STD facility 6. Undue emphasis on opencast mining during 19P 8 and 1989. sbould be avoided, 7. Oradewise price structure needs to be Du,i"g 1988. rationalised. Haripad, KanjirapaJly, Karunga pally , Kolc:ncberry, Mala, Mannarghat, MunnaT, 8. Exploration should be demand based and not project based for creating a sbelf of Nedumangady, Nilesbwar t Nilarnbur, projects from wbich a choice could be made Pandalam. Sboranur and Vadilkkancberry. baled on least cost options. During 1989. 9. Oetting land, sand for stowing. adequate power. timely supply of equipments, Mavelikara. Perintalamanna, OUlpalam delay in environmental clearance are some of aod Varkala. the major problems Low Standards of Industrial Goods J O. In order to achieve the desired production level by 20t'O, the pr<,jects need 5164. SHRI MURLlDHAR MANE to be planned from today. considering the Will tbe Mimster of INDUSTRY be pleased IODg gestation period. to state: 11. lblria Reconstruction project sbould (a) wbetber it is a fact that the indus- include proper definition of scope (or proper trialloods produced in the country are far utilisation of coal from lower seams. below tbe international standards and their ",Itt. ,4",w'" CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Wrlttq AaIwuI price_ In domestic market. are allO vet"J THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY" lJiIII;and (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO) : and (b). Target for cement production (or the year (b) wbetber Government propose to 1988-89 is yet to be finalised. Power cuts mvestilate iota tbe causes and take remedial imposed by varioos Statn do affect tbe mealures for improving the standard of achievement of target fixed for cement pro-- industrialloods? duction. It is not possible to anticipate precisely the intensity and duration of power THE MINJSTER OF STATE I~ THE cuts in veriou. States in the year 1988-89 DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- at tbis stage. However target would be fixed LOPMENT IN THB MINISTRY OF after a dialogue with the industry to make it INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHA- as realistic as possible. LAM): (a) It will not be correct to make a general statement that tbe industrial goods Selection of Industrial Units Ie producted in India are rar below the inter- priority Areas national standards and tbeir prices in domestic markets, too are very higb. So far as quality aspect is concerned, tbe Bureau S t 66. SHRI MUKUL W ASNIK.: Will of Jndian Standards under its Certification tbe Minister of INDUSTRY oe pleased to Marking Scheme, ensures quality levels con- state: forming to relevant Indian Standards. In order to make the Indian industry quality (a) whether it has been lUgested by the conscious, efforts are made to expose tbe Planning Commission that Governmeat Indian industries to international markets b, sbould select 500 industrial mterprises 'rom allowing imports of certain goods under both tbe public and private leCtors in fbe OGL and lor making BIS standards manda- priority areas and nourish them throuah tory for large number of good!t/commodi- policy interventions for eosurina maximmn tfes. production; (b) if so, whether any specific criteria As regards prices, there are a number of bas been laid down for selection of soeb products for whlcb our prices are lower than mdustrial enterprises; and international prices. Government's main tbrust is also to make the Indian industries internally competitive and cost efficient. (c) tbe details tbereof? (b) In specific areas. where quahty levels THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB of industrial goods are below tbe required DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- standards. BIS identifies tbe deficiencies and LOPMENT IN THB MINISTRY OF causes thereof and provides guidance and INDUSTRY (SHRI M ARUNACHALAM): assistance for quality improvement. (a) to (c). Planning Commission is of the view that in order to maximise production. selective and well designed interventions may Production of Cement be concentrated on say t 500 industrial eoter... prises instend of spreading the efforts tbiD.,. S 165. DR. V. VENKATESH : Wi1I The details in tb is regard arc yet to be tbe Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to worked out. state: Joint venture with USSR (b) if so, how Government propose to (a) wbether several joint ventUICS with have tbe target fixed for cement production the USSR bave been establisbed in India durina 1988 -89 ? durio8 J987: ",1". AII_." MARCH 29, ttl' 'I (b) 1f so, tbe details thereof; Letter. Copies of this pul)licatioa are Ie8t replarly to tbe Parliament Library. (c) the details of the new ventgres pro- posed to be established with the USSR. in (c) A statement showing the details of India; the proposals which are under various stagel of processing is given below. (d) whether some ventures are being processed for which contemporary t~hnology (d) and (e). Foreign collaborations are is available in India; and approved in the followina cases : (e) if so. the reasons for establishing 1. in sophisticated and hiah priority such ventures ? areas. THE MINISTER OF JNDUSTR Y 2. in export-oriented and import sub- (SHRI J. VENAGALA RAO): (a> and (b). titution manufacture. 6 proposals of foreign collabol11tion with USSR firms have been approved by Govern- 3. for enabling indigenous industry to update existing technology, to meet ment in 1987. Out of these, 2 proposa Is efficiently the domestic reQuinments involved financial participation by II SSR firms. amounting to Rs. 29.60 lakhs. The and/or to become competitive in the particulars of foreign collaboration proposals elfpOTf market. approved viz. name of the Indian Company, foreign collaborator. item of manufacture; Where import of tecbnology is contcmps nature of collaboration are publisbed on a lated, the level to which technology ha- monthly basis by the Indian Investment been developed or in current use within tbe Centre as a supplement to its monthly News country is taken into consideration. Statement D~talll 0/ coll"boratio" propo,als wIth USSR. UIId~r consideration o/the Government 81_ No. Name of Indian Co. Name of Collaborator Item 1. MIs. VCB Chern: Ltd., MIs- Neftecb;mpromexport, Rubber Hyderabad. USSR. Butyl 2. M/s. Pratap Steel Ltd., MIs. Tractor Bxport, Tractors New Delhi. USSR. 3. MIs. H.B.C. Ltd •. MIs. Prommub Bxport of Draalinc Ranchi. USSR. 4. -do- -do- Excavator ,. MI •. BHEL, Ranipar. MIs. Blcctrosila. USSR. Turbo-pne- rator spare partl. W,ll,'" Au"." caAt I kA 9 J 1910 (SAKA) Wrill,• ..." io I)Urereat pay leal_ 'or Group·A politi (d) the arraoaemeotl beiDa made to ID Coamaaalc:atiOll Beard/Director avoid RI. J .20 Jones por day by GAIL ? General of TeleCoDl.aaleatlODI THB DBPUTY MINISTER IN THB S 168. SHRI RAM DBAN: Will the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AJID Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased NATURAL GAS (SHRI llAPIQUB to stato : ALAM): (a) Yes, Sir. The tecODd sectieD of tbe HBJ Pipeline from Bijaipur to AooIa wbether different scales of pay and has been commiSlioned on 24th March emoluments are in VOIue for the Group-A 1988. Work on tbe seament from Aurai,a poSti in tbe offices of tbe Communication to Jagdisbpur is in progress and wi11 be Board/Director-General of Telecommuni- completed in time to meet the schedule of cations; requirement of gas as feedstock by tbe Jagrlishpur Fertilizer Plant, (b) if so, tbe rOlsons for such different treatment; and (b) Three fertilizer plants at Swaimadho- pur Sbahjabanpur a' d Babrala are ex~ (c) tbe action being taken to remove to be delayed. Delay in commissions of • this disparity ? fertilizer plant, whicb CODlUlDeS 1.65 M MeMO gas, results in a loss of revenue of THB MINISTER OF ENERGY AND a bout RI. 37 laths per fertilizer plant per MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS day to Gas Authority of India Ltd. and (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) The ONGC. officen of the Group-A attacbed to the Tele- communication Board/Director General (c) lo"respect of the two fertilizer plants Telecom. consists of two distinct groups viz at Swaimadhopur and Babrala, tbe delay in non-organised and orgclnised services. The Implementation is mainly due to problems pay scales of tbe various grades of Group-A relatlDg to acquisition of land, obtainina officen are identical, in each of the above environmeotal clearance, ~c. The Letter of groups. IDtent issued to MIs. Apeejay Fertilizers Ltd. (or implementing the Sbahjahanpur (b) and (c). Since there IS no difference Fertlhzer Project, has lapsed on 20.2.18. witbin tbe same type of service, tbe question sIDce effective steps bad not been taken by does not arise. tbe promoters to implement tbe project. (d) Efforts are being made to locate Losses to GAIL additional consumers so that the pipeline is utilised to tbe maximum extent possible. S 169. SHRI NARSING SURYA- VANSI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM PerIIUlIIODt ..telite earth statiGu AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 5170. SHRI MUu..APPALLY RAMA- (a) whether the second and third phases CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of of Hazira-Bijaipur-Jaadisbpur (H8J) Plpelme COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: will be ready as per scbedule; (b) if so, wbether the Gas Authonty of (a) whetber Government propose to India Ltd (GAIL) is expected ito incur a loss set up permanent satellite eartb statiODS in of Rs. 1.20 crore per day in 1988-89 and tbe hilly areas of Kerala during the CUfteDt 1989-90 because the six fertilizer plants or tbe next 1ear; and wbicb are expected to take gas from tbis pipeline are not coming up on scbedule; (b) if so, tbo details of the proposed locations, estimated cost and expected time (c) tho reasons for delay in tbe comple- within which tbose are proposed to be set tiOD of these plants; and up? MAttea 29, 1988 THE MINISTBR OF ENERGY AND services limited to a muJmum of £ '.14 MINISTBR OF COMMUNICATIONS million. (SHill VASANT SATHE): (a> A perma- oeat Satollite earth station at Ernakulam in (TrtuUlaliora) Kerala is already existing. No otber perma- DODt satellite earth station in the billy areas of Kerala is proposed during tbe eul'rcnt or Reglltered Companies c:ommiDl year. 5172. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: (b) Question does not arise. Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleued to state: Sa_arlDe cables establlsbmeat sebeme (a) the number of companies reai8tored in private and public sectors in tbe country 5171. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: Will during 1985-86, 1986-87 and upto 31st tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be December. 1987, State·wise; and pleased to state : (b) wbetber many companies out of (.) wbether tbe submarine cables tbem have been found functioning against tbe establishment scheme under the joint venture rules and if so, tbe number of companies of Indo-Arab countries exists in the country; aaainst whom cases were filed in courts for (b) if so, whether some foreign countries violatjon of provisions of the Companies bave extended financial asssistance during Act? 1916-87; and (c) if so. which are tbose countries and THE MINISTER OF INDUSTR Y the extent of their assistance? (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): A state- ment is given below. THB MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (b) Number of companies prosecuted (SHRI VASANT SA 1 HE) : (8' A submarine during 1885-86, 1986-87 and J 987-88 teJepnoDC cable bas been laid between (April to December) for violation of the Bombay in India and fUJcirab in tbe United provisions of the Companies Act, 1956 are Arab Bmirates (U.A.E.). The system was shown below : formally commissioned OD ) 0.11 . I 98 7. The Government of India through Vidt Ib Sanchar Y~Qr Number 0/ COtnpIUI146 N"JIIUD Limited (VSNL) and ETJSALAT tbe 1985-86 6,039 aathoriled public telecommunication autho- ritJ of VAS are equal joint owners of the 1986-87 S,727 IUbmariDe cable system. 1987-88 4.532 (b) and (e). Under an agreement signed (April to Dooember) ill December. 1987. tbe U.K. Government have made available a grant to tbe extent of Data on prosecution of companies as per 2S per CCDt of the payments to be made by tbeir year of registration ia not beiDg collec- VSNL in respect of U.K. 800ds and U.K. ted by the Department. 13 W", ...... , caAliltA 9. 1910 (SAKA) W,UI_ Aa,'" 1. Stat.... t Sllllewll. RlgI"fm/on of new GO,.fnment fltId No"·Go,e,."".,,t companlu ''''''ted '" ,.11 du"", the ,eM' 198'·86, 1986-81 tIIrd 1981-88 (A.pr" to D«mIber) State/Union 1985-86 1986-87 1981·88 Territory (April to December) Oovt. Non-Oovt Govt. Non-GoYl. Govt NOD- Govt. 1. ADdbra Pradesh 1 903 1 986 804 2. Al1lD&Cbal Pradesh 3 , 1 l 3. Assam 1 129 134 138 4. Bihar 1 188 1 279 225 S. Goa 56* 44* 7,- 6. Gujarat 785 9JO 682 7. Haryana U3 179 1 131 8. Hunacbal Pradesh 86 122 96 9. Jammu & Kasbmir 94 1 83 '2 10. Kamala"a 4 728 2 713 1 542 11. Kerala Z 272 279 1 204 12. Madbya Pradesh 3 531 1 '35 391 13. Maharaahtra 2 3.567 3.574 2,696 14. Manipur Z 2 1 S IS. Megbala),a 8 10 S 16. Mizoram 1 17. Napland 14 S 9 18. Orissa 1 148 164 139 19. Punjab 3,56 358 266 20. Ilajastban 1 31~ 338 31S 21. Tamil Nadu 4 1.146 2 1.334 1.032 22. Tripura 2 1 1 23. Uttar Pradosh 2 683 3 845 580 24. West Benaal 2 1.681 V 1.674 2 1,421 25. Andman & Nicobar Island 26. Chandiprb 108 147 119 27. Dadr. ct NIPI' I Have1l • 28. Delhi 3 3,023 3 3,483 2,54' a9. Pondicherry 3 78 2 86 .3 TOTAL 33 15,023 23 16,218 13 12.575 • _Iu_ JJamaD " Diu. 1S MAltCll 29. 1988 Higla prlees of medlelaes of multinational (c) No, Sir, drag companies (d) Tho reports are yot to be lub. mitted. 517~. SHRI KAMLA PR.ASAD RAWAT : Will tbe Minister of INDUSTR Y be '))leased to state: [Trans/ation] (a) wbetber it bas come to tbe notice Mereary IIgbt on the road between or Government tbat some foreign and multi- Nanaloi and Tlkr. Border national drill companies are causing loss of revenue by quoting high prices of their SI7S. SHRI BHARAT SINGH: Will medicines and formulations ; the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) if so, the names of sucb companies; (c) whether Government had consti- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY tuted a committee to go into the pace of (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) to progress of the construction work of the (c). Tbe target of production of Coir project and also to go into other matters ; Fibre for the Seventb Five Year has and been set at 2.23 lakh tonnes against tbe production of 1.4Q lakh tonnes and that of (d) if so, tbe details of tbe report of employment a 9.23 lakh perscns against S.90 this Commitlee and the further new steps lakh persoDs by the terminal year of Sixth being taken by Government? Plan (198 4·8 5 ) . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Tbe year-wise targets of production for DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE Seventh Plan and achievements for the first MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI two years and the anticipated production for SUSHI LA ROHTAGI) : (a) and (b) Thein 1987-88 are given below: Dam Project was originally sanctioned in April, 1982, for installation of 4 x 120 M W Year Ta,get .. chinem~nt8 at an estimated cost of Rs. 242.32 crore~. In May 1986, the installed capacity was (Figures in '000 tonnes) increased to 4 XIS 0 MW and tbe estimated 1985-86 183_~0 1€6.S8 cost of the Project was revised to Rs. 760,00 190.60 )85.00 crores. As per tbe latest revised estimate 1986·87 furnished by tbe project authorities, the cost t 98 7· 88 200.30 193.30 of tbe project is likely to 10 up to Rs. 952 1988-89 21 J.SO crores. t 989·90 22 '.50 (c) and (d). This project is beiDI executed The employment at the end of 1981-88 is by the GoV\!mmeDt of Puniat- wbo cor sti. likely to be around 8.S3 lath penons ...iDat " MARCH 29. 1988 .,.""." .,"", the Seventh Five Year Plan taratt of 9.23 ment hal approved 752,1024,157 and 853 lath penons. The GovernmeDt of Kerala i.. proposals for (orelan conaboration durina Itowever. reassessiDi tbe number of people 1984. 1985, 1986 and 1987 respectively. employed in Coir Industry. The particula" of Coreian collaboration proposals approved viz the name of Indian (d) The Coic Board is implementing company. foreign collaborator, item of various schemes during Seventh Five Year manufacture, nature of collaboration are Plan. Financial assistance is beinl provioci published on monthly basis by the Indian to attract entrepreneurs puticularly in brown Investment Centre as a supplement to the fibre sector to give a fillip to production. monthly news letter. Copies of this public- Adequate publicity measures to improve the ation are sent regularly to Parliament demand are being taken. Library. A statement showing industry wise break-up of Fe approvals during this period is given below. Foreign Collaborations (b) Technology may be allowed import S DAS : the 179. SHRl R.P. Will for similar items from different sources, Minister of INDUSTRY pleased to state: be with a view to meet increasing local demands export, generation, technological StatelDeDt Lilt n! Industry- W18~ Bua/c-up 0/ Fo"i,,, Collaboration Cales 4ppro,«/ by the Go,e",,,,.,., during the Year 0/ 1984 to 87 81. Name of the Industry 1;84 1985 1986 1987 No. --- I 2 3 4 5 6 ------1. Mettallurgical Industries Ui 53 45 29 2. Fuels 4 20 3 3. Boilon & Steam Generating Plants 3 11 S 4. Prime Movers (Other than Blect. Generators) 6 15 5. Electrical Equipment 157 205 175 18S •• Telecommunication 3 36 37 16 7. Transportation 63 101 S3 39 8. Industrial Machinery 131 152 J08 132 ,. Machine Tools 34 32 13 10 10. Agricultural Machinery 2 3 3 H. Barth Movin. Machinery 4 11 8' ",1"." MI." CHAlTIlA 9. 19 to (SAKA) Wrltt'" ..,_" 82 1 2 3 4 $ 12. Misc. Mechanical & Eng Industry 44 45 47 50 1 ,. Commercial, Offices & House Hold Equipments 3 20 10 1 14. Medical & Surgical Appliances t S 12 10 IS. Industrial Instruments 56 52 20 47 16. Scientific Instruments 2 13 4 17. Mathematical Surveying & Drawing Instruments 1 18. Fertilizers 1 1 1 19. Chemical (Other than Fertilizers) 69 69 107 84 20. Photographic Raw Film and paper 7 5 2 21- Dyestuffs 1 1 22. Drugs & Pharmaecuticals 8 S 10 13 23. Textiles (including those dyes. printed or otherwise processed) S 10 13 6 24. Paper & Pulp tncluding paper products 2 3 7 6 25. Sugar 2 t 26. Formentation Industries 3 t 6 6 27. Food Processing Industries 4 S 8 16 28. Vegetable Oil & Vanaspatl 1 1 29. Soap. Cosmetics & Toilet preparations 2 2 2 30. Rubber Goods 19 1 11 10 31. Leather. Leather Goods & Packers 4 J9 8 4 32. Glue &. Gelatine 1 33. Glass 13 9 8 8 34. Ceramics 15 27 20 18 3S. Cement & Gypsum products 7 9 11 7 36. Timber Products 1 '37. Defence Industries 38. Cigarettes 39. Consultancy 14 2~ S 47 40. Misc. Industrres 35 74 186 94 TOTAL: 7~2 1024 957 853 in respect of Indo-German jomt veDtuies In Strlk.. Ie Pablle Sector UDdertaklDP India. It Is learnt that some private orJlDiza· Ud MudaYI LoIt tion bal carried OUt a survey for some of tbe joiDt "eDfurea bew..u Indiaft l1\a Genaan 5180. SHRI BHAORBSWAR TANTI : companies. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Polish otrer to develop Coal I .....' (b) if so, tbe number of mandays lost in Will tbe Minister of ENERGY be these undertakings as a result thereof? pleased to state: THB MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (a) whether Poland bas offered fresh (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b)' collaboration proposals to develop the coal Yes. Sir. Calendar ,ear-wise informatiol'l as industry in India; available about strikes/lockouts and lJ1an- days lost is as under : (b) if so, the exteftt to which these fresb proposals hsYe been accepted by Jndia; and 1986 1987 (c) to what extent it will be beneficial? ( Provisional) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE No. of strikes! DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- lockouts 389 443 TRY OF ENERGY (SHIU C. K. JAFFER Loss of Mandays '2,571,830 3,173,433 SHARIEF) : (a) In tbe last meeting of the Indo. Polish Joint Commission held a t Warsaw in October. 1 9g 7. Poland offtred to help in lodo GermaD conaboratiODI tbe devei()pment of coal mininl projects includina areas such as shaft sinking, mme 518 J. SHRI S.B. SIDNAL : Will the construction. wasberies, m<,derr isalion of Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: rescue stations, mine electronification as well as in openeast mininl and coal handling wbetber a survey of 1 30 Indo- plants. Poland also exp'essed willingness to German collaborations bas shown that these enter into collaboff tions with suitable Indian projects earned more foreign exchange In companies for this purpose. It also sbov.ed India tban tbey spent on impOrts; interest in tbe lignite mining-com-power project in Rajas'baa Ind williogness to (b) if so, wbether 1985-86 Indo- conllider Government credit for tbls regar(l. German Collaborations were responSible for (b) and Ccl. Sptcific Polisb offers, when total foreign exchange outflow of Rs. 7 ~ . I I received, will be liven due consideration by crores: the Government, taking into account similar offer. from other sources, if any. (c) if 10. the other main features of the surYC)' report of the Indo-German Colla bora- [Tran.dQlion] tiODl; and Employees la Departmeatl of Po.t. (d) to what extent India bu improved aDd TelecODlllluolcatloDi ID roreip excbanae earninp ? Ut'ar Prade.h SI8~. THB MINISTER Of INDUSTRY SHRI ASHKARAN SANKHA- , WAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNI- (SHlll J. VENGAL ItA-O): to (d • CATIONS be pleased 10 state : Goverameot bas conducted no aucb su f vey Wrl'"'' ..." (a' the DUmber of .employees in (d) POllal-No aucb cues NVC hcco Depart_ats or .Posts aDd Telec:omtnuaica- reported. tiou. ia Uttar Pradesh suspended or removed from service duriDi the finaucial ,ear 19B7 Telecom-No SD'b cases have MD oo.coouot 0( CGl'ruptioD, iDeflioialq. 1.te reported. dispolU of work. tbeir indecent behaviour aDd comin.a office late. (e) POllal-Doea Dot arise in view 01 (b) if so, tbe details tbereof; (d) above. (c) the OUlllVer of employees, out of tbem. reinstated and the rcuon tberefor; Teluom-Does DOt ariae iD view of (d) above. (d) wbetber Government are aware of [Eq/llh) the fact thai in spite of five-day week, a number of employees do not come to office in time leave tbe office early in the evening Use of forer .. trade mara and enjoy one bour Junch jnstead of ball an hour and efficiency bas not yet improved; sa4. SHlU PARASRAM BHAR- and D WAJ: Will tbe Mini,ter of INDVSTJt y be pleased to state : (e) jf BO, the corrective seeps proposed by Govcrnm~nt ? (a) wbether it is a fact tbat many com- panies are usins foreign trade marks. eveD THE MINlSTER OF ENERGY AND tbougb they arc specjfically forbidden to MIN1STBll Of COMMUNJCATIONS use tbem; (SHRI \lASANT SATHE); (a) Posta/- 57 officials were suspended and 1 S were (b) what is the existiDJ system for removed from service. monitorina tbe UJC of trade marks; 1'tlecom-42 employees were suspended (c) whether any cases of violation of llnd three removed from service. prescribed rules bave come to the DOticc of Government; (b) POJlal-Suspended for corruptjoD 9, metJiciency 29. Jate disposal of work nil. (d) if so, the details thereof; and indoceat behaviour 19 and coming office late nil. (e) tbe action tak.en/proposed to be Removed from service for corruption taken by Government against the cooc:croed companies 1 -IS. T.i«Clm--Suspcoded 00 account of THE MINISTER. OF INDUSTR. Y (SURI corruption 16, inefficiency 12, improper J. VENGAL RAO) :C.) to (e). Under tho bebaviour 14, lale disposal of work IHI and c)tistiDI lav.. there is no restriction on the comina office late nil. use of (DRip trade mark.s if it docs not in- volve any direc:t or indirect consideration in Removed from service for submission foreign eXCbaDje. Further, trade marks caD of false certi6catea-3. be used witbout reaistration or before or after the expiry of tbe registration without (c) Po.'tll-Sqspcnsion of 14 employees the protection .fforded by the Tnde a were revoked on review. One of the removed Mercbandise Marks Act. officiaJs wu relDstated OD appeal. While appro\'ing fore ian collaboration rllcom-Suaponsioo bas been revoked iD aaroomcnts, a condition is laid don that tho 32 CUes as disciplinary pr0cec4ioas have use of foreign brand Dames will not be _laitiated apiQlt tbeln. allowed 00 prod~s _tDC tor iDtOluJ .... Ita case or violation of any condition of THB MINISTER OF PARLIA- approval of foreign coUabOl alion, the agrcc- MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER. mont is liable to be cancelled. OF INFORMA liON AND BROADCAST- 1NG (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT) : (a) A copy of the Advertising Policy of the Govern- (TrtlII,latlo"J ment is laid on tbe 1 able of tbe House. Approval for Jodustrial Projects (Placed in Library, See No. LT.'847/S8) ID Bibar (b) The Advertisements are released to S 18S. SHRI KUNWAR RAM: Will newspapers/journals keeping in view Govern- the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to ment policy, publicity requirements and availability of funds. state : (a> the names of the projects in Bihar (c) An those newspapers/journals which approval of which was stressed upon by the have paid circulation of over 1,000 copies Bihar Government in February. 1988; and and fulfil tbe criteria of regularity, print area etc, as laid down in tbe advertisinl (b) the decision taken by Union Govern- Policy become eligIble to get Government ment thereon ? advertisements. Relaxation, bowever, is made in tbe case of tbe following: THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE (i) Specialised scientific/technical jour- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE- nals witb a paid circulation of S00 LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF copies per issue. INDUSTRY ISHRI M ARUNACHALAM): (ii) and (b). In November, 1987 the pend- Sanskrit newspapers/journals and iDg applications for grant of lndustnal newspapers/journals published in Licences for locations in Bihar was dlscus~ed backward, border or remote areas with tbe representatives of Govt. of Blbar or in tribal languages or primarily with a view to expediting thetr disposal. As meant for tribal readers, and those at present tbere are 21 applications wblch publlsbed from Jammu & Kashmir arc under different srages of processing. It with a mi Dimum paid circulation of is tbe constant elldeavour of tbe Government 500 copies per issue. to dispose of all pending Industrial Licence (d) The number of ne"'spapers languge- applications as expeditIOusly as possible, wise and periodicity-wise whicb received advertisements during the current year (April [&If/1M] '87 to September '87) is Jaid on the Table of tbe House. AdYertiliDg Policy (PJaced in Library, See No. LT-5841/88) S116. SHRI5YED SHAHABUDDIN: Will tbe Miniflter of INFORMATION AND Electrification of ,mages 10 AU,.r. BROADCASTING be pleased to state : di5trict of Uttar Pradesh MINISTRY OF ENBRGY (SHRIMATI Efforts are being made to reduce tho COlt SUSHILA ROHTAGI): Ca) As 011 of production by improving tbe efficiency of 1.1.1988. ]03 inhabited villages in Aligarh operations. by reducing administrative"- District of Uttar Pradesh have not been penses. by better utilisation of men and electrifi ed. machinery and by introduction of better management practices and technology. (b) All the remaining villages are expec' ted to be electrified by the end of tbe 8 th Technology mission on TelecomDlIIDI- Plan, subject to availability of resources and other inputs. estion in Kera .. S 189. PROF. P. J. K.URIEN : Will Cost of coal production tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: . 5 J 88. SHRIMATJ KISHORI SINHA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (a) whether the technology miSSion on state : telecommunication is in operation in Kerala; Ca) the cost of coal production per tonne in Coal India Limited; (b) if so. tbe details thereof; (b) how does tbjs cost compare with Cc) the details of the improvement mteroatlonal cost of coal; and brougbt about by the mission in telecom- munication service in the State; and (c) whether the domestic cost of coal is high aod if so. what steps are bemg taken to (d) the details of the future plan ? bring it at par with IOlernational cost? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF C.OMMUNICATIONS DEPART\1ENT OF COAL IN THE (SHRI VASANT SA fHE): (a) Yes. Sir. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C. K. A National Mission under the name 'Mission JAFFER SHARIEF): (a) The estimated Better Communkatlontt has been mounted cost of productIon lD Coal India Limited since April 1986 which includes Kcrala during 1987-88 IS around Rs. 240 per also. tonne. (b) Under tb~ Misssion the followina (b) and (c). The data regardial inter- activities have been envisaaed : national cost of production is not available. However, the cost of productloo of coal in (i) Improve quality of service. India wal. upto 1982 considerably lo~er (ii) Increase Urban Public Call tban that in many other producing countnes Offices. with the exception of South Africa among the leading producers as could be judged (iii) Improve delivery of te1earams. from data regardiog average mine head sleam coal pri~es in selected countries publisbed by (iv) Provide Telex on demand. the World Bank based on statistics collected by the European Economic Community. (v) Improve rural communicatioD. However steam coal export prices of leading (vi) Build-up national diaital network exporte'; like Australia and South Africa ~re down to District Headquarters. around $ US 30. Allowing for quality differences and sbe rising cost of indigenous production. there is a trcnd for .tbe gap (c) The improvements brouaht about b, between domestic mine bead pnccs and the Mission in important indicators of international FOB prices to become nar· Telecom. services in tbe Kera). State ara rOWer. indicated below: W,'"", AnNe" httIicator. SlOW In StfUUS tn (a) whether towns of ••b-came... of AprIl' 86 F.b.' 88 Weat DeDlal are proposed to bo pr~ with STD facility daring 1988-89, and I. CaU Success Rate : -Local Calis 79% ~S.7% (b) if so, tbe details thereof? -S.T.D. Calls ~8% 75% 2. Fault Rate : tHE MINISIEa. OF BNS&OY AND MiNISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (No. of faults per 100 (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (4) DIRECTORATE OF FIELD Statement PUBLICITY The Administrative Offices of the The following offices have switched over Directorate have switched over to to S-day week system: S-day week, i.e. Directorate have switched over to S-day week. j e. I. Press Information Bureau; Directorate Headquarter in New D!lhi and its 22 Regional Offices. 2. Registrar for Newspapers of India; 257 Field Publicity Units are or-serving 6 -day week. l. Directorate of Field Publicity; (5) PHOTO DIVISION 4. Research and Reference Division: and 6·day week. S. Press Council of India Production of Films on National Unity Other Media Units are partly following 5192. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: sy~tem the Soda)' week as indicated below :_ WIll the MiOister of INFORMAlION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (1) DTRECTOR.ATE GENERAL: RADIO AIL 11'f"A (a) whether Government propose to encourage production of feature and TV The head quater office is observing films by way of offering awards to producers S day week. However, non- of filmli aimt"d at promoting national soli- administrative offices including field darity and discouraging disruptIve and offices, operational units, project disintegrating forces; and offices, etc. of All India Radio have not switched over to 5-day (b) If so, the details in this regard? week and continlJe to fune-tion on 6-day wet"k pattern, THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- (2) DtRECTORATE GENERAL: MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER DOORDARSHAN OF INFOR M ""nON AND BROADCAST- 1NG (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT) : As a matter of policy. Doordarshan also THE MINlSTER OF STATE IN THE encourages production or programmes fJEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE promoting national integration and commu- MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. nal harmony. Doordarshan have a scheme JAFFER SHARIEF) : (a) Mineral Explora- of Annual Awards under which Best tion Corporation bas been carrying out Production and Individual excellence awards exploration for lignite in Kapurdi and Jalipa arc given for various productions, The scope areas of Barmer district in Rajasthan since of the scheme is proposed to be expanded July, 1983. to give awards to Doordarshan programmes promoting national integration (b) The eltplorations indicate, tentatively, lignite reserves of about 78 million tonnes in Kapurdi areas Bod about 182 million Recommeodatioo~ of Cha1Vada Committee tonnes in Jalipa area. S193. SHRI NIRMAL KHATRI: WilJ (c) and (d). No, Sir, the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: [Engli.fh1 (a) tbe detail:; of recommendations of tbe Cbawada Committee constituted in 1978 Shortfall/Offshore Crude 011 Production on canalisation of basic drugs; and (b) the action taken by Government on S 195. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the recommendations of tbe above the Micister of PETROLEUM AND Committee? NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (a) whether there is any shortfall in the (SHRI J. VENG~L RAO) : (a) and (b). The production of crude oil from offshore information is being collected and will be explorations ~ laid on tbe Table of the House. (bJ jf so tbe details tbereof and the precise reasons therefor ; and (TrQII6latlonJ (c) the specific steps Government have Exploration of Lignite in Ka pardi taken or propose to take to ensure that the Areas of Rajasthan production of crude oil from offshore does not fan below the targets filted therefor? S 194. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: WjJJ the Minister of ENERGY be . THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE pleased to state: MINiSTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NA TURAL GAS (SHRI RAFJQUE O,r.tllal.le tea, IadatfrJ of optical instruments and apparatus and optical goods from 1983-84 to 1985 .. 86 '196. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: are as follows : Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to .tato : 'Value In RI. 1dch6 Q (a) whether the Optic Fair India-88 has 19 3-84 1571.92 been held recentJy in India to focus atten- 1984-85 J 376.26 tion on India's progress in tbat field; 1985-86 1631.96 (b) if so, that details thereof; Allotment of Microwave for tramnl.- lion of T.V. Programmel ID Ker.'. (c) whether the ophtbalmic lense indus- try is largely -dependent on imports both for 5197, SHRI V. S. VJJAYARA- eye-care and fashion ware including binocu- GUAVAN: Will the Minister of COM- lars, etc; and MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (d) the total annual market for optical (a) whether his Ministry is considering industry and how much of this has been any request for allotment of microwave in through indigencu4il manufacture and how Kerala for transmission of T.V. programmes much through imports during tbe last three from Trivandrum to aU T.V. Stations in years? Kerala ; and (b) if so, the decision taken thereon 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b). Yes, (SURt VASANT SATHE) : (a) Doordars- Sir. Optics Fair International ~8 was held ban placed a firm demand for Microwave from 20th to .. ~nd February, 1988 in New TV. bearer channel between Trivaodrum- Delhi. Apart from !leneral and technical Calicut and Trivandrum-Cochin in t 985. se4lsions. an exhibition was held of the Jatest products in lenses, spectacle frames. optical instruments, machinery, tools, accessories (b) The equipment for tbe T.V. bearer etc. both manufuctured in India and channel bas been imported and in under abroad. installation. (c' Bharat Ophthalmic Gla~s Ltd., a Manufacture of Diesel P.sseapr Government of India Undertaking. is Cars currently manufacturing only flint buttons made of glass. However, 8S the production 5198. SHRIM"TI D. K. THAltA is not adequate, the item is permitted to be DEVI SIDDHARTHA: Will tbe NiDister imported on restricted basis. The import of INDUSTRY be pteased to state: of ophthalmic blanks is currently allowed under 'OGL' Some units in organised (a) whether in view of the high cost of sector recently commenced production of petro}, Government propose to manufacture plastic blanks (CR-39) in the country. more diesel passenger caJS ; (d) No study has been made for the (b) whether there is a proposal for tbe total annual market for ophthalmic industry manufacture of new diesel passenger cars in the country. However, 8S per a study in collaboration with Volks W8l00 of West made by the lodian lnstitute of Manage- Germany ; and ment, Calcutta, the DGTD Panel of Glass and Glassware Industry bas projected the demand for ophthalmic h~nses to the tune (c) if so, the details of the above of 1809 MT for 198B. The total imports proposal? ,. MARCH 2', 1m "'rltt." .1Wf'. too THB MINISTER OF INDUSTRY ALAM) : (8) Upto Jttly, 1987 ONGC (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a). No. have establisbed geological reserves of about Sir. 13.20 million tonnes of on and about 12870 million cubic metres of natural .IS (b) No, Sir. in onland and offshore areas of Krishna- Godavari Basin. (c) Does not arise. (b) ONGC have already signed coo- Expansion of Refineries tracts with some consumers for supply of about 1 4 lakh cubic metres of gas and a S 199; SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the 70 km. gas pipeline is being laid from Minister of PEl ROLEUM AND NATURAL Nars8Pur to Kovur to supply gas to GAS be pleased to state : tbem. (a) the e~timated amount involved in Working capital of Public Sector tbe expansion of existing refining capacities Undertakings of the refineries ; and ~201. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the (b) the time by which tbe expansion Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to work is likely to be completed ? state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ra) whether Government have examined MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND the study report of the InStitute of Cost NATURAL GAS (SHRT RAFIQUE and Work~ Accountants of ll1dia on the ALAM) : (a) and (b). At present capacities working capital management in respect of of the Mathura and Koyali Refineries are public ~ector undertakings pointing out that being increased to 7.S MTPA and 9.S there wac; enough scope for reduction of MTPA respectively. The Mathura Rdlflery working capital of public sector under- expansion is estimated to cost Rs. ".5 taking') ; crores and scheduled to be completed by July, 1988. The Koyah Refinery expan- (b) what aie tbe finding\> and recom- sion is estimta ted to cost Rs. 27.62 crores mendations in the r('port ; and and is also expected to be completed by July, 1988. (c) Government's response to each one of them? Oil and Gas Reserves in Krisbna Godavari baSis THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) to (c). S200. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES The Institute of Cost and Works Accoun- WARA RAO: Will the Minister of tants of India undertook a study on tbe PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS Working Capital Management in a few be pleased to state: selected Public Sector Undertakings at the instance of Government aad submitted its (a) the latest assessment of crude oil report in August, 1987. The report has and gas available in onsbore and otrc;hore pOlO ted out the common areas of block.ade ,reas of Krishna-Godavari basin for of fuods in Public Sector and bas pointed exploration by tbe ONGC ; aod out possib,lity for reduction of working capital of the Public Sector Undertakings (b) tbe steps proposed to be taken to covered by the study. utilise tbe natural gas available in tbe said baain'l The recommendations contained in tbe report are liven in the statement below. THB DEPUTY MINISTER IN lHE The report is under consideration of the MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND Government in consultation witb the con- NA TURAL GAS \SHRI RAFIQUE cerned Public Sector Undertakinas. 101 Wrltt .. iIn",." CHAIT&A 9. l' 1 0 (SAKA) lei State.. t Convenion of Revenue Spares to Capital Stock may be decided OD JIM:otnmnldatlo", and Guideline, tbe merit of individual C88C1. 2.7 The Government should establish 2.1 Enterprises with extreme working an AirlinCl Maintcaaace Corpora- capital situations liko Neyveli tion to undertake maintenaace of Lilnite Corporation (with high Airlines of both Air India and working capital to Turnover Ratio) Indian Airlines in addition to and Enterprises witb negative releasin8 its servicea to other Workins Capital Turnover Ratio Forei8l1 Airlines. This will heJp tbe like Hindustan Fertilizers Corpora- corporation holding only one SCt of tion and Delhi Transport Corpora- spares at a time for a partic II Jar tion should rcorient tbeir wOTkinS type of fleet and will bring capital strategies to bring a balaDcc substan- tial reduction in stocks of stores in workinl capital structure of tbe and spares. Company. The holding of Sundry Creditors should be stronaly 2.8 Similar common maintenanc:e discouraged. organisations may also be formed 2.2 The Companies should adopt for IndUitry Groups with common Budgetary Control System for source/country of imports havina Working Capital Control. Over the requirenxnts of maintenance of period proper steps should be taken Insurance speres and other impor- for Scientific Assessment of Work- ted/original designed sparCl. iog Capital requirement with specific Targets of reduction of the 2.9 The billing systea in every PEs levels every year. need to be linked with delivel'J of Soads/services. In maoy a caao 2.3 There should be a Senior Executive billing process itself causes delay in Finance (Financial Controller in initiating Sundry Debton and above) primarily responsi':Jle for Collection System. controlling Working Capital at the Corporate level, and Deputy 2.10 Intra-Ministry and Inter-MinistrY General Manager and above co-ordination team to be formed responsible at unit level. for prompt settlement of iasUCI rclated to Working Capital boldin. 2 4 Specific guidelines identifying tbe of enteJl)rises. limits and targets (botb in terms of •. Days" consumption/sales and 2.11 Credit Polie) as assigned by the Monetary impact) for every com- Management must be adhered to pany unitwise must be specified and and no deviation be allowed under followed up by the coordinatins any circumstances. executive. Unless specific respon- sibility is assigned to the indIVI- 2. t 2 One of the major recommendations duals, the task of Working Capital of this study is that the entire Control cannot be carried out. monitoring of inventory must be done on a cor tinuous basis by a 2.S Every company is to form a small professional Cost Accountant inde- team of 2/3 members under Senior pendent of tbe Unit and he must Financial Executives (incharae of undertake physical verification of Wo.king Capital Control) who will stocks. status of the same and be coordinating and intra-transfer- usaae in terms of requirements (not ring the materials betwecn the units in terms of norms). work before disposing off any non- This can be termed as ··INVENTORY moving/surplus material. A UDIT" and should form part of 2.6 Faat-Slow-Non-movin. analysis is tbe effective steps to be taken to to be carried out periodi<:ally. roduco inventories in the ~ ib4 2.13 The units should be given more Action Plan which will address itself to functional liberty regarding their identifyina the Jong-term rehabilitation need, decisions of ownina own inventory. of the victims takinl into account tbe But stric.t norms should be set for physical and medh:al conditions of tbe every item and effective efforts to victims. be put for reducing such levels/ norms evdy year. This must be closely monitored and followed up Directives Regarding Telecast aDd at a senior level and reported in tbe Broadeast of Programmes CbairmaD's Report at the end of every year. Tbe manaaer/team S204. SHRI RAM SWARUP RAM: responsible for inventolY reduction may be suita bly recognised which Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND must act as an incentive. BROADCASTING be pleased to state : (a) whether special directives have been lodustria' Comple1 In And bra Pradesh issued to All India Radio and Doordarshan to accept or reject the programmes based OD S202. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: religion: Will tbe Minister of INDUS IR Y be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof; Bnd (8) whether it is proposed to establisb an industrial complex in Andhra Pradesh; (c) the details of the directives issued regarding broadcast/telecast of films/pro- (b) if so, the details of the amount grammes wbicb spread superstition and fear aam:tioned for it; and of ghosts? (c) if not, tbe reasons therefor 7 THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- THE MINISTER OF STA TE IN THE TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING DEVELOPMENT IN TI1F MINISTRY OF (SHRI H.K L. BHAGAT): (a). In keeping INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): with secular principles enshrined in our tal to (c). The info'matlon is t-eing collected Constitution botb AIR and Doordarsban and will be laid on the Tahle (f the House. follow a policy according to which no religi- ous programmes as such ar~ either broad- RellabilitatiOD of Bhopal Gas Victims cast or telecast. Programmes are so formula- ted tbat they draw upon deeper cultural, SHRI K.N. PRADHAN: Will '203. philosophic and spiritual content of all tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to religions and that would inculcate equal state: respects for all religions. (a) wbether during hls visit to Bhopal at the end of 1987, the Prime Minister had (b) and (c). Keeping these objectives in also visited the areas affected by the Union view, obscurantist and ritualistic content of Carbide Bhopal gas tragedy; all re1iaious practices is not allowed to form any part of the programmes produced by (b) if so. whether any new scheme h~s AIR and Doordarshan. Advertisement whicb been prepared for providing relief au 1 t.Jke advantage of the superstition or rehabilitation to gas affected people; and ignorance of the general public are prohibi. ted over AIR and Doordarshan. Cc) if 10, the detail. thereof? Telecast of old TV Serials THE MINISTER OF INDUSTR Y (SBlU J. VENGAL RAO) : (a). Yel, Sir. S 20S. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHA& TRIPATHI : Will the Minister of INFOR. (b) and (c). Tbe Government of MATION AND BROADCASTING be Madb)" Prad.h is prepariDi a 10Dl-term pleased to state : CHAItRA 9; 1910 (SAKA) (b) whetber new serials arc not llvailable THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dth the Government; DEPARTMENT OF )NDUS~ DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (c) if so, whetber Government have INDUSTRY(SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : taken any steps to obtain new serials; and (a> According to tbe current policy, mini cement plants upto 100/2000 tonnes per (d) if so, tbe details thereof and If not, day capacity based on vertical shaft kiln tbe reasons tberefor; technology arc encouraged subject to tbe State Government's certifyioa tbat mini cement plants will be located in an area THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- where the deposits of hme stone cannot TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF sustain large sized plants. The establishment INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING of mini cement plants based on rotary kiln (SHRI H.K L. BHAGAT): (a). Some tecbnology is not encouraaed except in the selected old serials/dramas have been repea- north eastern states and billy regions. ted on Doordarsban. Existing mini cement plants having potentia- lity of bigher production witb the same (b) to (d). Doordarshan has adequate kiln(s) through instaJlation of energy savina number of new serials in the pipeline for devices like pre-calcinators etc. are allowed scheduling/telecast during tbe year. Govern- expansion from 200 TPD to 300 TPD ment bas also introduced a new scbeme for and eventually upto 600 TPD under certain empanelling Producers/Directors for invitlDg conditions. fresb proposals for new serials. (b) and (c). Applications received for [English] establishment of cement units in various parts of tbe country including Bihar and merita Expansion of Cement Industry in Uttar Pradesh are considered on in accordance with the policy. So far as these Bihar aod U ftar Pradesh two states are cODcerned, the letters of intent and DGTD registration issued so far arc 5206. SHRI RAM BHAGAT detailed in the statement below. In addition, PASWAN : Will tbe Minister of INDUS- applications for grant of industrial licence TR Y be pleased to state: under I (D&R) Act for setting up of cement plants/expansion of existing capacity have (a) whetber Government have recently been received in respect of Bihar from tho drawn up any guidelines/scbeme for the M/s. Bihar State Industrial Development establishment of new mini cement plants in Corporation and MIs. Kalyanpur Lime and the country; Cement Works respectively. Details of the industrial licence applications are not (b) whether Government have taken a divulged till Government have taken a finaJ number of ~teps for the expansion of the decision thereon. .e1 10. StatemeDt UII." o/IIII.nl issu.d/DGTD Re,Ulrflllon grtJIIled lor ,ettlng up 0/ c.IMBt pia,,', I_ Bihar and U.P. Name of tbe Party Location Almuel (i) DGTO Rqistration Capacity (Tonnes) Bihar 1. MIs. Jamsbedpur Cement Singbbhum 33,000 2. Mis. Mehta Agencies Ltd. Rancbi 1',000 3. MIs. Bihar State Ind. Hazaribagb 66.000 Dev. Corporation 4. Mis. Narsiogh Cement Giridib 33,000 Pvt. Ltd. 5. MIs RishJ Cement Co. Hazaribaab 30,000 Limited. (ii) Uttar Pradesh LETTER OF INTENT 1. Rajmani R. Singh MirzapuT Dlstt. 66,000 2. Mysore Cement Ltd. Jhanli 3.6 lakbb DGTD RBGISTRATION 1. Shivalik Cement Ltd. Paurigarwal 33,000 2. Barisb RastogI Nainital 16.S( 0 3. Parmanand Garg Almorab J6.500 4. C.S. Chauhan NalData} 33,000 5. Raj Cement Co. Ltd. PJlboragarb 16.500 LiKiog of Rajkot T.V. Centre "ith (c) TV transmitters in GUJarat arc A_edabad T.V. Ceutre envl~aged to be hn~ed to Doordarsban Kendra, Ahmedabad throuab INSAT-IJ 5207. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN scheduled to be launcbed in early 19905. RAMJIBHAI MA VANI: Will the Minister ProviSion for satellite uplink facihty at of INFORMATION AND BROADCAS- Doordarsban Kendra, Abmedabad for tbis TING be pleased to state : purpose bas been made In tbe Seventb Plan. (a) wbether Government have received MocJerD COlD Box public telepa.o.. any demand. to bnk RaJkot T.V. Centre with Ahmedabad T.V. Centre: 5208. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN (b) if so, tbe details thereof ; and SINHA: Will tbe Minister of COMMUNI- CATIONS be pleased to state : (c) the action taken thereon? (a) wbetber modern coin box public OF PARLIAMENTARY THE MINISTER telepboDCI are beinl provided in plaec of AFFAIRS A~D MINISTER OF INfOR· existina coin box Public Call Offices : MA rION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) and (b) . YeI, Sir. (b) if so, tbe detail. thereof; Demands bave been received from time to time from various quarters (includina one (c) wbether there are plans for crodit from the Hon"'e M.P. askina tbis question) card Public Call Offices ; and for transmitters Gujeret liDkiDa TV in (d) if not, tbe reasons thereof 1 indudiDa tbat at Rajkot with Doordanhan KeDdra. Ahmedabad for relay of pr08l'emma THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND produced at Ahmedabad. MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS t09 .rlt,. All,.., CHAITRA 9, 19 to (SAICA) 11' (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) aDd (b). Maaafaeture of DleMl Eledrie LoeomoCI •• AD impreved vemOD of present coin collcc- Eaglne tina boKe. (CCB) called CDT-SO bas been. planned for manufacture by Telecom. 5210. SHRJ P.M. SAYBED: Will the Pactory, Bombay. About S,OOO sucb phones Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to are expected to be supplied during 1988-89 state: nOW and replacement of CCD Public Telephones by Telecom. Factory, Bombay. (a) whether a 700 horse power diesel electric locomotive engine has been IT'anu- Manufacture of STD paypbones by factured ill our country; Telecom. Factory. Bombay bas also been planned during 1988-89. (b) if so. the name of tbe company which has manufactured it and other details (c) Yes. Sir. thereof; (d) Does not arise in view of reply to (c) whether it is totally indigenous; and part (c) above. (d) the main advantages of thi~ engine as compared to the existing low power Report of Cement Corporation of India locomotive engines? Review Committee THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY 5209. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Will (SHRI J. VENGAL Ri\O): (a) to (d). tbe Minister of IN 0 \. STR Y be pleased to Dharat Heavy Electrlcals ltd.. have state: established cap~city for the manufacture of 700 HP diesel-electric locomotive. This locomotive has tbe advantage of better per- (a) wbetber the final report of the formance. le~s maintenance, higher avail- Cement Corporation of India Review ability and lower operating cost as c "lmpared Committee has becn received; to the existing locomotives (b) if so I tbe salient recommendations (Translation) thereof ; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor '? Operating of a branch of Nat.oaal Small Industries Corporation in Gorakbpur THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI ) VENGAL RAO): (a' Yes, Sir. 5211. SHRI MADA~ PANDEY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased (b) The main recommendations relate to state: to : (a) whether Government prCfJ)Osc to (i) financial restructuring of tbe com- open a branch of National Small Industries pany Corpora tion for developmont of Gorakhpur division in Uttar Pradesh whi:h is industrially (in reduction in cost of production backward; and expenditure on sales (b) if so. the time by which this brancb (iii) taking appropriate measures in the will be opened ; aod marketing operations with a view to improve sales realisation. (c) if not, the reasons therefor '? THE MIN1S1ER. OF INDUSTllY (SHRI J VENOAL RAO): No. Sir. (c) Does not arise. ttl Wrltl• .4lUtNr, MARCH 29. 1918 Writ ....., '112 (b) Does not arise. technique to predict sickness at the earl, Itaae and the importance or auldanee by (c) According to tbe National Small • tbe ftnanclal institutions to the Impendlnl Industries Corporation. it bas Regional sick units have also been stressed. The Offices at Delhi. Bombay. Calcutta, Madras Association bas ravoured the revival of and Gaubati to meet tbe requirements of viable sick units and closure of !'Ion-viable Northern. Eastern. Western, Southern and units and also sUlgested tbat cases rela'lnR North-Eastern Regions. Under each Regional to amalgamations are cleared within a Office tbere are Branch Offices in each of tbe specified period. Certain s11ggestions have States. Branch Office looks after the entire also been made for protecting the interests of needs of the Districts in each of tbe States labour. by deputing Field Officers periodically. Gorakbpur is serviced by their Kanpur Most of tbe suggestions made by tbe Brancb Office. Association are in keeping with the Central Government policy towards industrial sick- (English] ness. As the Board for Industrial and Financial Reconstruction have been given Study on Industrial Sickness vast powers with reference to Section 72A of the Income Tax Act, it is expected that amalgamations in cases relating to sick S212. SHRI H.A. DORA: industrial companies will be achieved SHRI YASHWANTRAO expeditiously. Rehabilitation packages for GADAKH PATIL : sick IDdustrial units which are evolved by banks and financial institutions in consulta- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be tion with various agencies including the pleased to sta te: Government take care of labours interest as well. (a) whetber Government are aware that the Associated Chambers of Commerce and Proposed Coal Slurry Pipeline Scheme by Industry has brought out a study entitled Gujarat State Electricity Board "wby Industrial Sickness"; S213. SARI RANJIT SINGH (b) whether it is a fact that certain GAEKWAD: WIll the Minister of ENERGY sugestions relating to sick industrial units be pleased to state: have been made in that study; and (a) whether the Gujarat Electricity . (c) if so, the reaction of Government Board submitted a scheme about coal slurry thereto? pipeline about a deCAde ago; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (b) the progress thereof and wbether Government have given approval to the (SHR) J. VENGAL R~O): (a) The Associated Chambers of Commerce and above scheme; and Industry of India had prepared a compre- hensive background paper-Industrial Sick- (c) if so, the details tbereof and if not, ness: Causes and Remedie9- for a the reasons therefor? workshop organised by tbem on 23rd December 19 ~ 7 at Calcutta. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE (b) and (cL The A9sociated Chambers MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. of Commerce and Industry has suglested JAFFER SHARIEF): (a) to (c). Gujarat tbat performance of industrial units sbould State Electricity Board had commissioned be watcbed continuously by commercial banks Engineers India Ltd.. to prepare a pre- and tbe financial institutions to see whether liminary techno-economic fea&ibilily teport they are running on the right track. The on pipeline transportation of coal from nccc ssity to develop a suitable quantitative Singrauli to thermal power statioDs in 113 W,'II•• .4nN,,, CHAITltA ,. l,ao (SAKA) W,ltt.. ,*"-,, 114 Qujarat. A presentltion on £indin.. of the There appean to be a scope for eaodrt .mdY conducted by ElL on tbe subject of certain oil field chemicals and equipment was made to Planning Commission. FoJJow- to Soviet Union. Concerned industrial tDI this Planning Commission asked ElL units are taking appropriate follow up to conduct another indepth study. ElL action. completed this study in '83. Based on this study. Planning Commission suggested that Generatloa of EleririeJtY from Noa- with a view to establish scope of coal Conventional and Renewable slurry transportation in India a short Energy Sources distance demonstration pipeline of SO-60 Kros. connecting the coal sources to a new selected power plant to be taken up. Conse- 5215. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will quently, Government decided to take up the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to an experimental project from New Mazri state: mine to Chandrapur Thermal Power Station of Madhya Pradesh State Electricity Board. (a) whether Government have received Work on the preparation of feasibility or invited proposals from private industrial report for this project is in progress. Before undertakings to generate electricity by using taking up such projects over long distances non-conventional and renewable ~nergy in other parts of the country, Government sources; intends to have the technology successfully tested on an experi~ental basis. (b) if so, tbe States selected for locating power houses to generate electricity from the Supply of Oil Field Equipment and alternative energy sources; Cbemicals to USSR (c) whether these stations have to opente 52 t 4. SHRI SRlBALLAV PANIGRAHI: as supplemental to the main power SuPPly Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND .ystem; and NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (d) if so, the conditions tbat would (d) if 80, details tbereof? (d) Does not arise. Sch~du/~ 0/ SAVE Programmel May 1988 to Dlumbu 1988 ------~- ---- Date Country Tttle TELEVISION May 1 Bangladesh Musical Instruments of Bangladesh lune 1 India Beyond the Storm July 1 Nepal Royal Cbitwan National Park August 1 Pakistan Bolan Rang September I Sri Lanka Pratibha October 1 Bangladesh Dances of Bangladesb November I India J ndradhanush RADIO May IS Sri Lanka Traditional Music of Sri Lanka- Nari Baena Folk play June, 15 Bangladesh Mystic Songs of Bangladesh July, 15 Bhutan The Marriage Customs of NOlthcm and Souther Bhutan Ausult IS India Boa t Sonas of India September t 5 Nepal Folk Tunes of Nepal October 15 Pakistan Dance Tunes of Pakistan November IS Sri Lanka Contemporary Soogs ",Itt", ...." CHAt1'RA 9, 1910 (SAKA) tl8 SeIIIDS .f Video C ....Uea by NIlDC (c) if 10, tbe number of projects Oovernment propose to undertake in ocar future; and 5217. SHIU DAULATSINHlI JADBlA: Will tbe Minister or INFORMA- (d) if not, tbe reasons therefor ? TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (a) wbether National Film Development MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Corporation seUa video cassettes to leadinl SUSHILA ROHTAOn: Sikkim il libraries ; estimated to bave a total bydro potential of about 1283 MW at 60% load factor. (b) if so, tbe revenues generated from sucb sales during 1987-88 ; (b) and (c). Two hydroelectric schemes are presently under construction for (c) tbe revenues from advertisements benefits during Seventb Five Year Plan and on sucb video cassettes; and three bydroelectric scbemes are proposed to be implemented iD Sikkim durina tbe (d) wbether there are complaints from Eightb Five Year Plan. viewers about frequent interruption and untimely advertisements of National Film (d) Docs not arise. Development Corporation ? Puwer Geaerated by Ceotral Power Statloas for private sector THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN· TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING 5219. PROF. RAMAKRISHNA (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAn: (a) wbetber Government are aware tbat Development of No-Iodastry there is a va.t potential for byde} power in Districts Sikkim; S220. SHRI RADHAKANTA (b) if 10, whether Government bave DIGAL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY any propoaal to tap lucb natural resource' ; be pleased to stato ; tit MAR-eM 29, 1988 Written A",.,." [Trat1.~/atio"J (b) The efforts taken to industrialise lndmtry Districts have yielded results as No Construction of Post Office Buildings may be seen .rom the letters of IDlentl in Banswara and DUDgarpur industrial licences and DGTD RegIstrations Districts granted to No Industry Districts during the years 1985 to 1987, the details of which are as follows : 5222. SHRI PRABHU LAL RAWAT: Will the MiDlster of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: YelU' Lette,s Industrial DGTD 0/ Intent L,cenus R~glSlra(lon (a) the number of Post Office buildings 1985 114 33 243 con~tructed In Banswara and Dungarpur 1986 94 29 112 districts ot It aJ3sthan ; 1987 69 19 99 (b) If Post Office buildings have not been constructed, the reasons therefor; OD-aoing coal mine projech uDder- and takeD b) Coal India Limited (c) the number of tuildmgs proposed 5221. SUR I H.B. PATIL: Will tbe to be constructed for Post and Telegraph Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Offices dunng tbe next financial year? state: (a) whether a number of on -going coal THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND mine projects, being undertaken by Coal MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS India Limited, may suffer a setback a!> this f~HRI VASANT SATHE): (a) SIX Post Iiant public sector undertak ing has tak.en office buildlDgs have been constructed in a policy decis,on to prULe its capital Banswara and Dungarpur districts of expenditure for tbe remainJng pent d of tbe Rajasthan current financial year in view of non- availability of adequate funds; and "') Does not arise in view of (a) ato\le. (b) if so, tbe reaction of Governm II thereon so far as tbe Queation of change of (c) One post ofllce building is proposed policy is concerned ? to be constructed in Duogarpur District during the next finaocial year, subject to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE availability of funds. 1 here is 00 proposal DEPARTMENT Of <-OAL IN THE to construct separate Departmental Telegraph MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. Office build illS durioS the next financial JAFfER SHAPIEF): (a) Generation of year. 121 CItAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) W,itt", ~." Petrol .Dd diesel bulk depot.t Uni" PLF % Sagar io Madbya Pradesb du,t", A"I1· 81 to Feb.' 88. 5223. SHRINANDLAL CHOUDHARY: U.P. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Harduaganj "B' Unit-7 55.0 NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Paricba Unit-l 23.3 (a) whether a decision has b:en taken Parieha Unit-2 51.3 to start a petrol and diesel bulk depot at Sagar in Madhya Pradesh; and Orissa Talcher Unit-' 48.4 (b) if so, the date by which it is likely Talcher Unit-6 27 •• to start? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TIlE The Plant Load Factor of these unitl MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND dUring April-Feb., 1 988 was below the NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE National average. ALAM): (a) No, Sir. (d) Tbe o:easures being taken to improve tbe Plant Load Factor of these units include (b) D~es not arise in view of tbe answer penodic field VISitS by Roving Teams aDd to (a). Task Forces when specific action plans are drawn up to help the power stations in over- (English) coming their problems. Unit-7 at Hardua- ganja ·B' Station has also been covered under the Centrally sponsored Renovation and Plant load factor of Geocrating units by Modernisation programme. Assistance is BHEL to U.P. aod Orissa States also belDg prOVided to the SEBs in matters such as training of personnel, procuring of 5224. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK; spare parts from fon-ign and indiaenous Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to sources and in the supply of requisite quality state: and quantity of coal. (a) whether some States like U.P. and (Translation] Orissa have 110 MW generatmg units sup· plied by BUEL; Memoraodum apiast Agarwal (b) if so, their number, power station- Committee report wise; 5225. SURI MANVENDRA SINGH: (c) whether the plant load factor of Will the Minister of COMMUNICATlONS tbese units is much below the national be pleased to state : average; and (a) >Nhethcr the Bhartiya Telecom. Bmployt:es FederatIon submitted a memo- (d) if so, the steps being taken by randum to Government on 13 January. 1988 Union Government to increase the plant apinst the report of Committee; load factor of these units? Aaarwal (b) if so. the demands contaiDeCi THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE therein; and DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a> to (c). The (c) the action pr.posed to be taken by required information is liven below : Government thereon? MARCH 29. 1988 THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 2, Cable splicers/phone Macbentcl dolnl MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS cable work be alvon a special pay of (SHRt VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. Rs. 100/- per month. (b) A summary of the demands is given 3. Sub-IDlpector cadre be pouped with in the statement below. Telecom. Assistant's cadre. 4. S.O. Cable suppliers be slven I arade of Rs. 1400-2300/-. (c) Tbe whole issue is under considera- tion of the Government. Technicians: Statement I. Entry educational qualifications of Briel olckmanth by B.T.E.F. on technicians should not be reduced Aggarwal Committee Report from diploma to 12th standard ht class. General: 2. Technicians be given a scale of Rs. 1400-2300/-. I. Many cadres are grouped with lower cadres and tbeir pay scales are reduced. 3 • Technical Supervisors be given a scale This is not acceptable to B.T.E P. of Rs. 1640-2900/-. 2. Date of implementation of report be 4. Technicians be designated as Junior from 1.1.1986 as was done in case of Ensineers. restruCturing of Junior Enginneer Cadre. S. Technical Supervisors be designated as higher grade Junior Engineers. 3. Officials baving more than five years of service should be exempted from R.S.A./P I./A.E.A./W.O. : qualifying the examination and be upgraded in new proposed restructured J. RSA/PI/ AEA/WOs be merged with skills. JTO cadre lD the grade of Rs. 1640- 2900. as their nature of duties arc 4. Special pay for supervisory duties be similar. • Equal pay for equal work" doubled. a verdict of Supreme Court be honoured. S. Gazetted promotional post enmarked for technical and administrative cadres be increased as per tbe strength of 2. 16 years promotional cadre for RSA/ statIo PI/AEA!WOs be of Rs. 2000-'200/-. 6. Technical staff be allowed to qualify Telepboae Operaton : the TES Group B examinations. I . Telep'tone Operators are recruited with PIIoae Mazdoor : bisber educational qualification and have to qualify a teat of leucra! knowledge includinl Ensliah, Geo- 1. Pbone Mazdoon be given a scale of sraphy. Science etc. Hence their .Ra. 82S/- to 1200/-. qualification should be treated u 2. Oroup CD' Staff workioa at other units Graduates. shaJl have entry in Phone Mazdoon cadre dependins upon their talents 2. Telephone Operator. be liven a ecalo aDd aptitude. of Rs. 1320-2040. 3. Telophone OperatOR workiDl. III modern tecbnolOlY be liven two III- 1. Plmoe mechanics cadre be liven • crements for knowiol the workiDa Iud tcale of Ill. 97'-1640. two iDCNmeDts for actual world.,.. tl' CHAITaA '. 1'10 (SAKA) W,1t 1l1li dtuwr. 4. 16 ,ears promotional grade for tbis Telegraphllt. : cadre be of Rs. 1640·'900. I. Telegraphist be given a scale of RI. Telepboae Supervisors : 1320-2040/-. 2. 16 years promotional scale be of RI. I. Scale of Telcphooe Supervisors be of 1640-2900/-. RI. 1640-2900. 2. Telephone Supervisors be liven a 3. H.S.G. Scale for this cadre of RI. special pay of Rs. 70/- per 2000-3200-/. month. Assistant Superintendent Telegraph Traffic : Seolor Supervisor. : J. The cadre of A.S.T.T. be given a scale of Rs J 64 ')-2900/-. 1. Senior Supervisors be given a scale of Rs. 2000-3200/-. 2. Senior A.S.T.T. be given Grocp '8· promotion. 2. Senior Supervisors be given group 'B' promotion on seniority. as A.E. Traffic. Left Oot Cadres : Telecom Office Assistant : J • Restructuring be done for the cadre of L.D.C. and U.D.C. in Adminis- 1. The entry qualification for this cadre trative Offices. be treated as Graduates considering their mode of recruitment. Motor Drivers in telecom be given a scale of Reo. t 150-'500/. 2. T/OjAs be given a scale of Rs. 1320- 2040/-. [English] 3. 16 years promotional grade for tt is cadre be of Rs. J 640-2900/-. Opening of Post Office in Nirman Vibar, Delhi Section Snpervisors : 5226. SHRI K-'MAL NATH: Will the Minister of COM MUNICATIONS be I . Section Supervisors be given a scale of pleased to state: Rs. 1640-2900/-. 2, Section Supervisors doing supervisory (a) whether it is a fact that the Delhi duties be .given a special pay of Rs. Development Authority has allotted two 7~/- P.M. units of shops built in Nirman Vibar Market, East Delhi for a Post Office; Sen.lor Supervisors: • (b) if so. the reasons for delay in open- ing a Post Office there; and J. Senior supervisors be given a scaJe of Rs. 200~-3200/-· (c) the time by which the Post Office will start functioning there? 2. Senior supervisors be given Group 'B' promotion. THE M I~ISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS Telearaphman : (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. 1. Telearaphman be given a scale of Rs. (b) On the basis of norms prescribed 82S-1200/-, for opening of post offices in urban areas. 127 MARCH 29. 1988 Wrllt.. "",.,." 128 no post office was found justified in Nirman (d) Docs not arise in view of tbo reply Vibar. to parts (a to c) above. (c) It is not possible to indicate at this (c) and (f). No Sir, as the allocation stage when tbe post office will start already made to And bra Pradesh for the functioning. current Summer Block (March to June, Allocation of Kerosene to 1988) at the growth rate of 7 per cent is considered adequate to meet the demand of Andbra Pradesb the genuine consumers in the State. 5227. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL KuUr Jyoti Scheme for electricity GAS be pleased to state: connectioDs ID rural areas (a) the details of kerosene oil allotted to 52'1l. SHRIMATI USHA CHOU· Andhra Pradesh from I July to 31 December, DHARY : Will the Minister of ENERGY 1987; be pleased to ~tate : (b) whether this quota was allotted at enbanced rate; (a) whether Government have since formulated the 'Kutir Jyoti Scheme' to (c) if so, the details thereof; provide electricity connections to five lakh rural dwellings as per announcement of the (d) if not, tbe reasons therefor; Finance Minister in his Budget Speecb ; (b) if so, the details thereof; (c) whetber Government propose to increase the quota in view of the flood and drought conditions in that State; and (c) whethe! Government propose to provide such electricity at concessional rate (f) if so, the details thereof? to enable the economically weaker sections to avaIl of this facility; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (b) if so, the details thereof; NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE ALAM): (a) to (d. Allocations of kerosene (c) whether Government propose to oil for July to December, 1987 were made to provide such electricity at concessional rate Andbra Pradesh, like other States and Union to enable the economically weaker sections Territories, at an enbanced growth rate of 7 to avail of this facihty ; and to 7 i per cent over the allocations given (or tbe same period of last year. Tbe details of (d) if so, the details thereof? the allocations made are given below : THE MJNJSTER OF STATE IN THE Mon.h Quantity DEPAR1MENT OF POWER IN THE 1987 (Tonnt's) MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI,· (8) and (b). A July 39000 'Kutir Jyoti' programme is being launched August 39,000 whicb envisages providing financial assistance September 39,000 to the State Electricity Boards for extend 109 single point light connections to the bouse- October 39,000 holds of rural poor, below the poverty line. November 46,120 During 1988-89. about S lakh household~ December 46,120 of such families are propcsed to be covered. ------(c) and (d). The tariff of power supplie'i Total: 2,48,240 to different categories of consumers IS _.~-- decided by tbe State autboritics. J2' CHAITR.A '. 1910 (SAKA) 130 IGltallatlon of Pnbllc Call Oftlcel Statement ... MAaR S,stem Detail. of locatio", I" Himachal Pl'IIIk,h 5229. PROF. NARAIN CHAND where long distance public Ittlephones are proposed 10 be pro,ltkd unde, PARASHAR: Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: multi acceu rural radio Ichern. SI. Name 0/ Name 0/ Name of LDI'T (a) whether the installation of Public No. Base d/smct locatio,., Call Offices under the Multi Access Rural Station Radio System has not made any headway in the Seventh Plan in the country; J. Hamirpuf Hamirpur 1. Didwasb 2. Agbar (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the 3. Ham names of the thirteen MARR schemes sanc- tioned for Himachal Pradesh alongwith the (Glore) names of the peos, under each scheme; 4. Balyut S. Bhiar (c) whether even one such scheme (out 6. Kosar of J 3) would be implemented and tbe 7. DiaD Public Can Offices covered by it installed 8. JarJog durins 1 Q88-89 the penultimate year of the Seventh PIan; and 9. BiDa] 10. Sialkar (d) if so, the dHails thereof including LPG BotUing Plants In Del" the dates for installation and tbe names of the places selected for Public Call Offices under the concerned scheme ? 5230. SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (8) tbe location of cooking gas bottling (SHRI VASANl SATHE): (a) 135 Long plants of tbe Indian Oil Corporation, Bharat Distance Public Telephones (LDPTs) have Petroleum Corporation and Hiudustan already been provided in the country under Petroleum Corpor&t1on in Delhi and tbe Multi Access Rural Radio (MARR) scbemes filling capacity of each plant; during 7th Five Year Plan and more schemes are likely to be introduced. (b) whether these plants are not in a position to meet tbe demand of cook iDS gas in tbe capital ; (b) Only one scheme for Hamirpur witb 10 LDPTs bas been sanctioned so far. (c) if so, whether Government propose to establish more LPG bottling plants in (c) Hamirpur MARR scheme is expected Delhi to meet the demand of the Capital ; to be implemented during 1988·89. and (d) if so, the details thereof? (d) The Dames of the places selected for providing LDPTs under Hanlirpur scheme are given in the statement below. Their THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE in~tallation is likely to be completed by MINISTR.Y OF PETROLBUM AND 31.3. i989. N'TURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUB ALM) : III ",,", ..,." MARCH 29. 1988 .. 1'2 Ncrme 0/ the Locatio" Capacity In 011 CO"'IHUIY MTPA 5231. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA Indian Oil Shakurbasti 50,000 MALIK : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Corporation Hindustan ·do- 15,000 Petrolem (a) whether it is a fact that the Eastern Corporation and North-Eastern regions are being neg· Bharat Petroleum • do- 40,000 lected in regard to industrial licences and letters of intent for setting up industrial Corporation units there ; and (b) Yes Sir; (c) and Cd). In order to meot better the (b) if so, the reasons therefor? demand of Delhi and to achieve the resite· ment of some Shakurbasti bottlina plants, two bottling plants are being set up as THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY follows: (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) and (b). Letters of intent and industrial licences are Location Capacity Anticipated granted against applications from .entre- in MTPA date 0/ preneurs and as such the question of commissionrng Government neglecting or favouring any region for purposes of grant of industrial Tikrikalan, Delhi 7S ,000 June, ) 988 licences and letters of intent does not arise. (Indian Oil Cor- poration) Asaoti/Piyala. 7 S ,000 March, 1988 State-wise and year-wise break·up of num· Haryana (Bharat ber of letters of intent and industrial licences Issued during the calendar years 1985 to J 987 Petroleum for setting up of mdustriel in Eastern and Corporation) North-Eastern regions is given below. Statement Slate· wise Break-up of Lett."a 0/ tnune (LOIs) & lndustrial Licence! (ILa) it~ued dUring the years 1985, 1986 & 1987 fo, Ealte,n & North·Eastern Reg/onJ Eastern Region State/Union Terriroty 1985 1986 1987 LO! IL LOI lL LOI JL 1. Bihar 22 20 18 9 14 9 2. Orissa 39 2S 17 12 18 8 3. West Bengal 66 51 42 21 39 25 North-Eastern Region 4. Ambacha) Pradesh 1 6 1 I I 5. Assam 12 12 20 5 12 3 6. Manipur 1 1 7. Megbalaya 1 1 1 1 8. Mizoram 9. Nagaland 4 1 10. Sikkim 1 lJ. Tripura CFlAlTR.A 9, 1910 (SAKA) WrltJea ,4",.,." .34 Anotmeat or LPG Ageaclel aad (e) wbat measures are being taken to Petrol Pumps aHot these agencies to tbe needy persons 'I 5232. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: THB DBPUTY MINISTBR IN THB Wlli the Minister of PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: NATURAL GAS (SHRI llAFIQUB ALAM) : (a) and (b). The required infor- (a) the number of LPG agencies and mation is given in the statement below. petrol pumps allotted during the year 1987 in each State : (c) to (e). Selection of candidatel for (b) the Statewise-number of unemploycd allotment of luch agencies is being made by graduates and other educated youngmen who the four Oil Selection Boards, which are have been allotted LPG agencies and petrol functionally independent. Comptaints pumps during the above period; received regarding irregularities in allotment of such agencies are investigated by these (c) whether Government have received OSSs, and appropriate action taken wberever any complaints regarding irregularities in the necessary. There are adequate safeguards in allotment of such agencies giving preference the dealership agreements against runniDa of to the candidates belonging to the rich aoy • Ben ami' dealerships. The Selection community; Boards make tbe selections on tbe basis of suita bility, taking into account the compa- (d \ if so, the details thereof; and rative merit of the candidates. Statement Slate-wi,~ 10lal numb" of PG Di&lribuloTlhip, and Pelrol Pump, allotled durill6 1987 and Numb~, aut of Ih~m a 110 ted 10 Ihe Unemplay~d G,adualel/UMmployed Engineering Graduat~.s (UG/UEG) Name of tbe Statel LPG DIstri- Allotted to Retail Outlets Allotted to Union Territory butorships UG/UEG (PetrOl/Diesel UG/UEG Pumps) 1. Andhra Pradesh 2 1 45 5 2. Arunachal Pradesh 2 4 1 3. Assam S 11 1 4. Bihar 5 28 6 S. Goa 1 6. Gujarat 3 11 4 V. Haryana 8 1 17 1 8. Himachal Pradesh 1 3 1 9. Jammu & Kashmir 1 3 1 10. Karnataka 6 3 24 1 11. Kerala V 2 13 1 12. Madhya Pradesh 10 1 9 2 13. Maharashtra 8 2 9 2 14. Manipur 2 1 IS. Mizoram 1 1 3 1 16. Naaaland 4 3 it~ "r',t,. AIr,.,." MAtCH 29, 19.8 WrltUli 1111' ••,' l~a t 2 3 4 17. Orissa 3 18. Punjab 2 5 2 19. Rajasthan 1 27 4 20. Sikkim Tamil Nadu 21. 8 1 34 4 22. Tripura 3 23. Uttar Pradesh 15 1 48 5 24. West Bengal 5 2 JO 2 2.5. Andaman & Nicobar 1 26. Chapdigarh 1 27. Delhi 3 2 28. Meghalaya (; 1 100 18 319 50 Medical Relmbursemeot to Corporate remuneration including medical expenses in Executhes respect of only Managing or Whole-time Directors of public companies and private 5233. SHRI SANAT KUMAR companies, which are subsidiaries of public MANDAL : Will the Mmister of INDUS- companies. In additIon. approval of TRY be pleased to state: Central Government IS also necessary where remuneration, inciudlDg medical reimburse- (a) whether it is a fact ti-18t medIcal ment. exceeds Rs. 3,000/. per month in the bills of Corporate ExecutIves and their case of a relation of a Director or a Manager families run into several lakhs of rupees of such a company, during a year; S,T.D. Facility 10 Birbhum District of (b) if so, whether Government contemp- West Bengal late introducing medical Insurance in place of reimbursement of medical bills; and 5234. SHRI GADADHAR SARA: Will the Minlster of COMMUNICATIONS (c) jf Dot, how it is proposed to check. be plea~ed to state: luch huge medical reimbursements? (a) the number of places of Birbhum THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY district 80 far connected with S.T.0. (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Govern- f ICllity; ment do not have any information in t,l <; rcaard. (b) the names of those places and wben connected; (b) There is no such proposal under (c) whether there is any proposal to consideratioD of the GovcrnmclJ t. connect some more places through S.T.D.; (c) Under the Comranies Act, 19.56 (d) if so, when and tbe nlmes of those Oovcmment exercises check over tbe places; and I 1~1 Writ,,,, ~" CHAItaA 9, 1910 ($AUi is. (0) if not, the reason. thereof? Telephoae Escbaaget Ia Dlrb•• Diltrict THB MINISTBR OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS 5235. SHRI GADADHAR SAHA: the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI V ASANT SATHE): (a) Three places WiJI of Birbhum district have so far been CODnec- be pleased to state: ted with STD facility. (a) tbe number of telephone excban&a in Btrbbum district commissioned so far; and (b> The tbree places viz., Bolpur. Suri, and Saintbia were. connected with STD (b) tbe names of those exchanges and facility in March. 1984, December, 1984 wben tbese were commissioned? and November, 19 81 respectively. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) No. Sir. (SHRI VASANT SATHE): Twenty Four. Sir. (d) Docs not arise in view of (c) above. (b) Information is given in tho statement (e) Due to resource constraint. below: Statement Exchongl8 Commissioned are given below :- S. No. Slation Date/Year 0/ Commls,ioninz 1. Abmedpur During 1963 2. Blsbaopur .. 1958 3. Bolpur ., 1958 4. Chatra t. 1956 Dubrajpur 1956 5. " 6. llIum Bazar 30.3.79 7. Kiranbar 14.2.85 8. Labpur 14.1.84 9. Lobapur 14.2.85 10. Mayureswar 14.1.84 11. Mobammed Bazar 1971 " 12. Mollarpur 31.3.83 13. Murarai 31.3.83 14. Nalbati 31.3.83 15. Narayanpur 31.3.83 16. Pancbami 31.3.83 17. Puranderpur 15.3.81 18. Raj nagar 29.3.85 1948 19. Rampurhat " 139 "',UI.. 41&9"' ..., MARCH 29, 1988 tvrl" .. AII.tIHr, 1~ 1 2 3 20. Sainthia I, J 948 but cODverted into electronic excbaDse OD 14.11.87 21. Suri " 1948 22. Tantipura 1 S.3.81 23. Tarapith lS.1.84 24. Khairasole 31.3.86 Connecting of Rolpur, Sbaotiniketan (c) the Dumber of "ost offices to be wltII Speed Post Service opened during 1988·89: and 5236. SHRI GADADHAR SABA: (d) the location of tbose post offices and Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS When the same would be opened ? be pleased to state : THE NINISTER OF ENERGY AND (a) whether there is any proposal to MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS connect Bolpur, Sbantiniketan with speed (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) Three new post service; Post Offices have been sanctioned in Bir bhum district during t 987·88. (b) if so, when and tbe details thrroof; and (b) The Post Offices sanctioned are for Jay Krishnapur, Uttar Banagram and (c) if not tbe reasons thereof? Gerala. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND (c) and Cd). The number of new post MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS offices to be opened in Birbhum district in (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (b) and (c). Does not arise in view of Production of Pencillin 1st Crystals reply above. The Principal requlfemcnt for tbe introduction of this service is the availa- bility of air services with suitable arrival/ 5238. SHRI R.L. BHATIA: departure timings vis .. a-vis despatch and SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD receipt of mail. The proposed service from SINGH: Bolpur J Sbantiniketan does Dot fulfil this requirement. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Opening of Post Offices in Birbhum District (a) whether tbe public sector units have been able to produce Penicillin G t st Crys- S23 7. SHRI GADADHAR SABA ~ tals as claimed by them, on tbe basis of Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS wbich the ratio between indiaeDous and be pJeased to state : imported Penci11in for production of 6 APA baa been fixed; the Dumber of post offices opened in (b) if so, tbe dctaJls thereof; the Birbhum district durins 1987-88; (c) wbether there is a reduction in pro- (b) tbe names of those post offices and duction by pubJic sector units aDd tbe their location; availability has declined; and 141 W,ltten AnlWerJ CHAITRA 9. 1910 (SAKA) 142 (d) if so, the steps beinl contemplated these approvals envisage NRI investment of to chanle tbe above ratio ? Rs 199.80 crores and the total investment in fixed assets in these project' is estimated THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY at Rs. 1261.43 crores. (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. Performances of Paper Mills (b) Apart from captive consumption, to 5240. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: the extent information available MIs Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased Hindustan Antibiotics Ltd. and Indian Drugs to state: and Pharmaceuticals Ltd. have supplied appx. 311 MMU of Penicillin G 1st Crys- (a' whether any review bas been made tals to tbe producers of 6 APA alone from on the financial position of different large April 81 Feb. 1988. integrated paper rr iJJs in the country; (c) No, Sir. (b) if so, the names of the paper mills facing financial problem; (d) Does not arise. Industries set up by NRls (C) the other factors affecting the paper industry; 5239. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA- MURTY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY (d) the performance of tbe various paper be pleased to ~tate : mills during the last three years; (a) the number and names of places (e) the measures proposed to be taken where industries have been set up by NRIs to improve tbe ~rformances of paper mills during the last three years; during the year 1988-89; (b) the financial outlay and tbe nature (f) whether it is proposed to establisb of these industries; new paper mills in the country in public sector in near future; and (c) whether it is a fact that a large number of prop'"'sals for setting up of pro- (g) if so, the details tbereof? jects in India by NRls have been approved between 1983 and October 1986; and THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). (d) if so, the details thereof and the No review has been made by Government latest position in this regard? with speCific reference to the financial posi- tion of different lar[Ze integrated paper mills THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY in the country. (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (8) to (d). Smce November, 198~. when the Special Appro- (c) The paper industry is mainly val Committee (NRl) was set up to consider confronted with the problems of availability industrial applications from non-resident of cellulosic raw materials. shortage of power Indians, 193 letters of intent have been and coal and technological obsolescence. issued to non-resident Indians UpfO Dec., 1987 to set up indu~trial units in IndIa. (d) The over all performance of thc Details of the letters of intent issued by the Industry in terms of capacity build-up and Govt. (like name of the applicant, location production is considered to be satisfactory. of the unit, item of manufacture etc.) are The installed capacity of the industry has mentioned in tbe 'Monthly Newsletter' gone up flom 24 ldkh tonnes in 1984-15 published by tbe Indian Investment Centre, to 28.51 lakh tonnes at the beginning of New Delbi. copy of which is available in tbe 19j18. The production of paper and paper- Parliament Library. The projects covered by board whicb was 13.70 lakb tonoes in 1984 14S MARCH 29, 1'88 ""1".,, ...." 144 bas also lODe up to 16.80 lakb tonnca subsidy and infrastructural sublidy Ichemes (estimated) durin, 1981. for development of rural as well as other areas categorised as industrially backward, (e) The problems of paper industry are rebate on the sale of khadi and other hand- kept in view while formulatinl policies and loom products etc. programmes for the development of the Industry from time to time. Various reliefs Power generation target and achievement and concessiolls have been extended in recent years to enable the paper industry in S?42. SHRI R. M BHOYE: Will the aeneral to improve its capacity utlJhation Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: and financial viability. (a) the target p1an of power generation (f) and (g). No proposal to establish a in eacb Five Year P1an; new paper mill io the Central Public Sector is under consideration of Government at present. (b) the achievements in each Plan period up tm now; Rural Industries (c) whether there was a vast gap between S241. SHR! AMARSINH RATHAWA: the tarllets and achievements in each Five Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased Year Plan: to state: (d) what was the difference between the targets and aehievefT'ents in each Five Year (c) if so, the details of main reasons Power productioD therefor; and 5243. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will (d) the measures being taken or propo- the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Bed to be taken to improve the condition of state: rural industry ? (a) whether the power production bas THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY suffered due to the drought in 1987; (SHRI J. VBN~AL RAO) : (a) No, Sir. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) and (c). Do not arise. (c1 the steps being taken to auament power production ? (d) For the promotion of rural industries Government is taking various promotional THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE measures. Tjaey inclode differential taxation, DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE provision of funds at low rate of interest, MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI ..istancc for research. development of SUSHILA ROHTAGl): (a) and (b). A appropriate technology, subsidised ioterest 5hortfaH of about 9 billion units is expected rates, transport subsidy. centrar inve,tments in hydro generation during 1987·88 mainly 145 CHAITRA 9. t 910 (SAKA) "',Itt_ ""' ••, 14. on account of Jow reservoir levels due to Prodactioa .... Import of PestJehIes inadequate rainfaU. 5244. SHIll SURESH KURUP: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (c) In order to offset tbe shortran in state: hyde) generation. a continlency plan bad (a) tbe total quantity of Ben~enc Hna- been formulated and implemented to augment chloride, D.D.T., Parathion and Endosulphan thermal generation which is expected to produced in each of the years from 1982 exceed the target in the current year by over to 1986; 6 billion units. Tbe measures being taken (b) whether any of these ))esticides wtre to increase the availability of power also imported during to 1986; and include expediting cOmmlSSJODlng new 19B2 capacity, implementation of short-gestation (c) if so, the quantity of tbe item projccts, improving the performance of imported and the year in which the import existing power station§. reducing transmission was made? and distribution losses and implementation THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI of demand management aDd energy conserva- J. VENGAL RAO): Statement Qty. in M.T. Item 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 Production B.H.C. 33565 31726 31783 24845 24488 D.D.T. 4569 6325 7199 58'27 6973 Parathion 3115 2208 2082 1730 1041 Endosulfan 1700 2687 2710 2508 2217 Item 1982-83 1983-84 1984-85 t 985-86 Imports B.a.C. Neg. 1.00 D.D.T. 1491 459 4623 3720 Parathion 327 52 367 194 Note: I. Import figures are maintained financial year wise. 2. The item 'Endosulpban' is not separately classified in ITC Rev. 2 on the basis of which Foreign Trade Statistics are maintained. 3. DDT is imported from USSR under tbe Annual Trade Plans. 141 MARCH 29, 1988 148 Muaf.ctDre of Mobile DelaUnatioa Plant TV lerlal on life of freedom 8gbten by DHEL S246. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: 5245. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND NAIl{ : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY BROADCASTING be pleased to state: be pleased to state : (a) whether Doordarshan bas received any proposal for a TV serial on the life of (a) whether the Dharat Hcavy Electricals freedom figbters similar to • Kahan Gaye limited has been asked to manufacture Woh Log' for approval; mobile desalination plant for converting brackish water into potable water; (b) if so, the details of the said proposal, jncJudin~ its title number of episodes it (b) whether the Dbarat Heavy Electricals consists of and the date from which Door- Limited has designed such plant; darshan will start telecast of the same; Cc) if so, the capacity of the "lant; (c) if not, whetber Doordarsban is going to invite Bny proposals for such a TV (d) the experiment made thereon; serial; and (e) the approximate cost thereof; (d) the details thereof? tf) whether it can be used by the people; and THE MINtSTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFOR- MATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI (g) if so, the steps taken to popularise H. K. L. BHAGAT): Ca) No, Sir, tbe use of such plant? (b) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (d'. BHEL bas developed a mobile plant b3sed (c) and (d) Government have announced on reverse osmosis process wbich remo'\es a new scheme for approval of sponsored not only salt from tbe brackisb water programmes on Doordarshan. As per this but also harmful matter and bacteria scheme, future proposals of sponsored tbereby turning it into safe and healtby programmes wi11 be invited only from a potable water. Tbe design is based on basic panel of Directors/Producers to be registered know-bow from the Central Salt Marine with Doordarsban. Tbe proce!s of registra- and Chemical Research Institute, Bbavnagar, tion is on. a constitutent laboratory of CSIR. BBEL bas already supphed two mobile plants of Complaints received by MRTP CommissioD 15,000 Jitresfday and three stationary plants of SO,OO() IItres/day. BHEl has got 5247. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: some more orders in hand. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (e) The approximate cost of tbe mobile (a) the number of complaints received Desalination Plant of J S ,000 Htres/day by tbe Monopolies and Restrictive Trade capacity is RI. 6 laths ex-works excluding Practices Commission during the last tbree taxes and duties. years, year-wise; (f) Yes, Sir. (b) tbe manner in wbich tbey were dealt witb: and (g) BHEL, is higblighting the benefits of these plants to tbe State Government~ (c) the details of complaints in whicb and otber user agencies. (acts stated were wbolly or partially proved 14~ CHAITkA 9, HHO (SAKA) 150 before the Commission and action taken of overmanning of enterprises -and to see thereon? that public sector enterprises are operated of commercially viable level and are able to THE. MINIStER OF INDUSTRY generate adequate internal resources. With (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). Tbe a view to providing the dispossessed familia positioD regarding complaints received by with alternative means of livelihood. tbey M.R.T .P • Commission during the last three would be encouraged to take to useful years is as under :. avocations like poultry farming, animal busbandry etc. No yardstick bas been laid down to determine the financial assistancel Calendar Complaint. received loans to be given to the persons/families. Year during the year whose land is acquired. Each sucb case will depend upon the prevailing circumstancoa which will be assessed generaJly by the 1985 484 concerned State Governments and Project 1986 883 Authorities. 1987 2925 {Trandationl The Commission deals with these complaints as per the provisions of the M.R.T.P. Act, Sale of Handicraft Item. )969 and the rules made thereunder. The time and effort lDvo)ved in the compilation 5249. SHRIMATI _ VIDYAVATI of details of these complaints will not be CHATURVEDI: WIll the MIDister of commensurate with the purpose sougbt to be IN D USTR Y be pleased to state : achieved. (a) whether it is a fact that all the jtems manufactured by the Khadi and VilJage Employment to Members of Displaced Industries are not available for sale in sale Families by Public Sector outlets of the Kbadi and Village Industries Undertakings CommiSSion; 5248. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT· NAIK : Wi)) tbe Minister of INDUSTRY (b) if so, the reasons therefor; be pleased to state. (c) whether it is also a fact that preference is given for selling handicraft (a) whether the Bureau of Public Enter- items and other goods purcbased from prises has issued a circular to all Central private societies on a large scale; and and State Government offices and Public (d) whether Government propose to Sector Undertakings revoking the earlier conduct an inquiry into aU these matters? decision to provide at least one job to the member of each displaced family who are displaced following the execution ot" any THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB project: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) if so. the reasons for reversing its INDUSTRY (SHRl M. ARUNACHALAM) : (8) and (b). Khadi and ViUage Industries earlier decision to provide a job to a member Commission (KVIC) docs not manufacture of eacb displaced family; and any item directly. except for a few items in (c) the details thereof? its departmeDtal production centres. Oeoee rally tbe sales outlets of KVIC sell aU the items of Kbadi and vma", Industries sector THE MINISTER OF INDUSIRY (SHRI keeping in view customer preference and J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. demand in the locality. (c) No, Sir. (b) and (c). The main reason for cbanae in peJiq i. to luard apinst tbo continaency (d) Does not arise, MAttea 29. 1988 "'"n.. ~n t,2 !teenltmeat of Etaployees iD KVle (English] 5250. SHRIMATI VIDYAVATI New Advertisement Policy CHATURVEDI: Win tbe Minister of INDUSTR y b~ pleased to state : 52S I. DR. B.L. SHAILESH : Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD. (a) whether any fixed criterja has been CASTING be pleased to state: laid down in regard to the educational qaalificltiens. experience etc. for direct (a> whether Government propose to ~ruitment and promotion of employees in formulate a new advertisement polJCY to the Kbadi and Village Industries Commission remove tbe distortions which have crept aDd its sales establishments; into the exilting policy; (b) jf so, tbe details tbereof and jf not, (b) if so, tbe broad features thereof; the reasons tberdor; and and (c) whether any blueprint has been (c) whether it is proposed to frame prepared and bow it is an improvement over rules in this regard to be followed for all tbe existing policy? times to come? THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MJNISTER THE MINISTER OF INOUSTRY OF INFOR.MATION AND BROADCAST- (SURI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) and (b). The ING tSHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) whether it is a fact that very few For promotion to other posts belonging compaoi'!s were registered in Bihar 1D to c:Iasa III and upto tbe level of Directors, comparisJD to other States during the last recruitment is based on seniority-cum-merit tbfee : cars and duc to fC'gistration of lesser sobject to the conditi< n tbat tbe promotee nUiI,\)er of companies in the small scale is a matriculate and bas pat in three years' .,e.:tor. development pro,ramme bas hampe- service in the lower post in tbe line of rcd in tbat State~ and promotion. However, jf an employee has passed the prescribed Hindi examination, the (b) if so, tbe reasons tbereror? coadidon or matriculation is rei.t.xed. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (c) Recruitment rules are reviewed from (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) and (b). time to time dependin~ upon requirements Number of companies situated in the State of job. of Bibar and regiltered under the CompaDics 153 Wrltt." dll6Wer, CHAltaA 9, 1910 (SAltA) W"tlen~' 1S4 Act. 1956, since 1984-8.5 and tbe sbare terod in tbe country. bas consittendy of Bihar In tbe number of companies relis- increased as shown in tbe followiDi table : Year Number 0/ companies Perce"tage 0/ companie, 'egi'tered registered in Bihar I" Bihar /0 thole regl,tered In all lhe State,. Union Te"',orie, 1984-85 148 1.11 1985-86 189 1.26 1986·81 280 1.72 1987-88 252 1.81 (April, 1987 to January, 1988). The number of S.I.D.O. units granted 1984, 198) and 1986 and their percentages permanent registration by State Director of to All India position is as follows :- Industries, Bibar, during tbe calendar years 1984 1985 1986 1. Bihar 4,519 6,457 9,231 2. All-India 69,797 9'.404 1,06.834 Percentage of lover 2 6.S 6.6 8.6 Development and improvement of total demand and production of power in energy projects in Delhi Delhi durina 1987-88, 1988-89. 1989-90 and 1990-91 after these projects start 5253. SHRI KAlI PRASAD fUDCtioning '1 PANDEY: Wdl tbe MlDister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPAR.TMENT OF POWER IN THB (a) whetber a proposal to sanction MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRJMATI an amount of Rs. 55 crores for development SUSHILA ROHTAGI): to (d). The and improvement of different energy projects information is being collected and will be in Delhi in tbe comming year is under laid on the Table of tbe House. consideration of Government; (b) wh:ther Delhi Administration is [English) working on a power project also for whicb an amount of RI. 48 crores is required; Foreigo CollaboratiODl (c) whether besides tbis, Delbi AdmiDls- tration bas demanded Rs 100 crores for 5254. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: two more cneray projects which will be Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleasocl approved on receipt of the report of tbe to state: Central Electricity Autbority; and (a) whother the foreian collaboratioos (d) if so. the time by which theae are allowed in both essential and DOD- works will be started and the details of tbo -essential items ; and .. MARCH 29, 1988 ",rllI.. AIutH" • 5' (b) if so, whether in such collaborations, Forelgll ColiaboratioD' provisioo is made for know how fOf establishing suitable auxiliary industries ? 52'S. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: Will tbe Miniatel: of INDUSTR.Y be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY wbether there have been any (SHRI J. VBNGAL RAO) : Statement LI" o/IndIu"y-Wise break-up til fore"" collabo,a,ion cases approvtd by ,h, go,'. during ,~ year of /983 to 1987 SI. No. Name of the Industr)' 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 ~-~.------_------2 3 4 5 6 7 1. Mettalluraical Industries 20 26 53 45 29 2. Foell 2 4 20 J 1 3. Boilers-Steam Gaoeratinl Plants 2 3 13 5 t 4. Prime Moven (Other tban Elect. GcDerators) 2 6 1$ 1~7 ",'ttd Au"." CHAITRA 9. 1910 (SAKA) "rllI.. A",.,." lSi t 2 3 4 S 6 1 S. Electrical Equipmant 129 ISV 20S 175 183 6. Telecommunication 7 3 36 37 16 7. Transportation 39 63 tot S3 39 8. Industrial Machinery 115 138 152 108 132 9. Machine Tools 44 34 32 13 10 to. Agricultural Machinery 2 2 3 3 J 1. Earth Moving Machinery 8 4 11 12. Misc. Mechanical and Engg. Industry 35 44 45 47 50 J 3. Commercial, Offices and House Hold Equipments 9 3 20 10 7 J 4. Medical and Surgical Appliances 2 5 12 10 IS. Industrial Instruments 37 56 52 20 47 16. Scientific Instruments 2 J3 4 17. Mathematical Surveying and Drawing Instruments t 8. Fertilizers 19. Chemical (Other than Fertillzersl 62 69 69 107 P4 20. Photographic Raw Film and Paper 2 7 5 2 21. Dyestuffs t 1 22. Drugs and Pharmaceuticals 5 8 5 10 13 23. Textiles (includmg those dyes, printed or otherwise processed) 4 5 JO 13 6 24. Paper and Pulp includlDg Paper products 3 2 3 7 6 25. Sugar 2 J 26. Fermentation Industries 3 3 6 6 27. Food Processing Industries 6 4 5 8 16 28. Vegetable Oil and Vanaspati I 1 29. Soap, Cosmetics and Toilet preparations 2 2 2 30. Rubber Goods 11 19 1 11 10 159 MAaCH 29, 19s8 W,ltt,. ""nIe" 1(0 t 2 3 4 6 7 31. Leather. Leather Goods and Packers 2 4 19 8 4 32. Glue and Gelatine 1 33. Glass 6 13 9 8 8 ~4. Ceramics 3' 15 27 20 18 35. Cement and Gypsum products 7 7 9 11 7 36. Timber Products 37. Defence Industries 38. Cigarettes 39. Consultancy 13 14 23 5 47 40. Misc. Industries 72 35 74 186 94 Total: 673 VS2 1024 957 853 lado-Amerlcan Joint Projects THE MINISTER OF INDUSTR Y (SARI J VENGAL RAO) : (a) Nine Rand 5256. SHRIMATI BASAVARA· D projects being undertaken jointly by JESWARl: wIn the Minister of Indian and US companies, were sanctioned INDUSTRY be pleased to state: as on October 31. 1987. under the Programme for Advancement of Commercial (a) whether nioe Indo-American joint Technology (PACT). projects have been approved to help small and medium size companies to develop market oriented technologies within India; (b) A statement is given below. (b) if 10. the details of the above Indo- US Projects; (c) and (d). These Projects involve an aggregate outlay of US $ 5.9 million and (c) the total cost involved ; and are belDg fUDded partly by tbe sponsoring companies (US $ 3.2 million) and partly by (d) to what extent tbe United States assistance under PACT (US $ 2.7 has ....eed to belp ? milhon). J61 CHAITM " 1910 (SAKA) .62 Statement P10grell of PACT Au/lled Unit, S. No. Name of tbe Company Name of tbe US Partner Product/Process I. Pond. (India) Ltd., Madras Giorgio Foods Inc., Higb grade but to mush- Temple, Pennsylvania rooms usiog unconventional materials. 2. Seahasayee Paper and Beloic Corp., Beloit, Process improvements in Boards Ltd .• Erode Wisconsin bagasse newsprint manu- facture. 3. Sudarashan Chemieal Indus- Aitac Corp., Development of process tries Ltd., Pune California for manufacture of )soprocuron. 4. Four Byes Research Private Alcos Corp., Pittsburg, Spent-wash treatment by Limited. Pune Pennsylvania membrane technolOlY. S. Globe Auto (Gujarat) Scott Motors Inc., New Permanent magnet alterna· Limited, Bombay Mexico tor and allied electronic controls. 6. Heechst India Limited, Hoechst Ruussel Pharma- Development of a new Bombay ceuticals Inc., Sooerville, forskoHn based drug (or New Jersey glucona. 7. Inrosys Consultants Pvt. Anco Engineers Inc., Expert systems in medical Ltd .• Bangalore Culver City. Calirornia field. S. Pennwalt India Limited, Pennwalt Corporation, Dewaxing of rice bran Bombay Pennsylvania oil. 9. Pest Control (India) Pvt. Fernone Chemicals Inc., Pberonones and controlled Ltd .• Bombay Phoenix, Arizona release formulations for cotton. Reeoonet'Uorr charges oa disCODDected (c) whether te1ephones ate disconnected telepboues io Bangalore in cases where the telephone bi)) is Dot received by tbe subscriber; 5257. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (d) whether it is a fact tbat tbe recoD- be pleased to state : nection charges are very high; and (e) if so, whether Government propose (a) the reconnection charges levied for to reduce it to a reasonable amount to help disconnected telephones at prescnt in the subscribers ? Banaalore city; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND (b) whether any intimation either by MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS phone or by Jetter is given to subscribers (SHRI VASANT SA THE) : (a) Reconnec- before disconnectinl the telephone; tiOD charges levied for telepbones dis- W,i"en An.twer, MARCH 29, 1988 Writl. An,"" 164 connected due to non-payment of dues are and acnerally confined at one tbeatrel Rs. 1 00/- in Dangatore City as elsewhere in auditorium. In Dangatore. bowever. the fitms the country. were screened at two auditoria. (b) Yes. Sir. Defore disconnecting tbe Complaints regarding Improper functioning pbone. telephonic reminder is given to tbe of manual telephone exchanKe at subscriber. The subscriber who request in Vittal in Karoatak. writing for issue of a registered reminder is reminded by registered post on a cbar~e of S259. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : Rs. 6/- included in bis next telepbone bill. Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (c) Yes, Sir. (a) whether Government bave received (d) No Sir, Reconnection charges are any complaints from tbe public about not bigh but reasonable. improper functioning of manual telephone exchange at Vitta) in Karnataka; (e) In view of (d) above, tbe question does not arise. (b) whether Government are aware that the above exchange does not have enough USSR Film Festival in Baagalore city operators; and S2~8. SHRf V. S. KRISHNA IYER : (c' if so, whether Government propose Wi1l the Minister of INFORMATION AND to post sufficient number of operators at thIS BROADCASTING be pleased to state: t:x~hange ? (a) whether any USSR Film Fest ivai THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND was held in Dangalore city; MINIS1ER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SAl HE): (8) Few com- plaints were received and the same were (b) if so, when did it commence; disposed of after attending to tbe complaints. (c) the duration of the film festival; (b) and (c). Eleven Telephone Operators (d) whether the films were screened in are working in the exchange. There is several cinema houses in Bangalore cay alld justification for two more operators. Posting if not. the reasons thereof; and of additional operators will be taken up when some manual exchanges io Karnataka (e) whether Government propose to are automatlsed. screen such films in many cinema houses witb wide publicity in fUlure ? Price of LPG in Karoataka THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 5260. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : TARY AFFAIRS ANO MINISTER OF Will the ),1inisler of PETROLEUM AND INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether Government are aware that Cb) and (c). The USSR Film Festival price of LPG is not uniform tbroughout was held at Dangalore between January ; 0- Karnataka; February 5, 1988. as a part of the film segment of the Festival of USSR in India. (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (d) aad (e). In accordance witb arranle- ments finalised under the protocol signed (c) tbe steps being taken or proposed between Governments of India and USSR. to be taLen to ensure uniformity in the price such screenings are to be Don-cornn'ercial of LPG in Karnataka ? 165 CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAltA) W,I,ten ~r, THB DEPUTY MINISTER IN THB (c) jf BO, the details thereof? MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUB THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THB ALAM): (a) Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUB (b) Tbe ex-storage point price of LPG ALAM) : (a) The number of LPG distri- is uniform throughout the country. However, butorships functioning at Nagpur as on the retail prices vary from place to place March 1, t 988 is 24. depending on (reight, loeal levies etc. (b) and (c). Under the Annual Marketing (c) It is not proposed to bring in Plans being implemeated 80 far, the 011 uniformity in prices at the retail level. companies are in the process of establishina new LPG distributorsbips at Nagpur as Appointments in Gujarat Office of follows: O.N.G.C. 5261. SHRI C. I. PATEL: Will the Indian Oil Corporation Limited 1 Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL Hindustan Petroleum Corporation G AS be pleased to state : Limited 3 Bbarat Petroleum Corporation (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas Commission has appointed persons in Groups Limited 1 'C' and '0' for their Gujarat Office from outside Gujarat; and New LPG bottliog pJant in Delhi (b) if so, the reasons therefor? 5263. SHRI BANWART LAL THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE PUROHIT: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CHOWDHARY AKHTAR NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE HASAN: ALAM): (a) and (h). All the posts in SHRI P. M. SA YEED : Groups 'c' and '0" except the posts In the Will the Minister of PETROLEUM pay scale of Rs. 725·14~O (the highest posts AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : ID Group 'C'). are filled up from amongst the candidates sponsored by local employ- (a) whether the country's largest LPG ment exchanges. Recruitment to posts in bottling plant is being commissioned by the tbe pay scale of Rs. 725-1480 is done by Indian Oil Corporation in the capital; the respective ONGC's Regional Offices through advertisements in the local news papen. (b) if so, tbe time by which tbe said plant is likely to start functioning; LPG agencies in Nagpur (c) what will be its capacity to refit the cylinders; and 5262, SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO· HIT: Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM (d) wbether the persons in waiting list AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: for Gas connections in Deihl are likely to be cleared and if so, to what extent ? (a) the number of LPG agencies of the different oil companies functioning in Nagpur as on I March, 1988; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTR Y OF PETROL EUM AND (b) whether in view of the mounting NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE waiting list for new LPG connections, ALAM) : (a) and (b}. One of Indian Oil Government propose to open more LPG Corporation's largest LPG bottling plants is agencies in Na,pur during the current Plan being commissioned by June, ! 98 8 at period~ and TikrikaJan near Delhi. MARCH 29. 1988 t~B (c) When funy commissioned, this plant mobilised will supplement tbe fioaocial will have a capacity of 7 ~ .000 Metric resources required for ongoins/new projects of tonnes per annum. tbe Corporation. (d) Release of LPG connections is done by tbe oil industry all over tbe country, Loan from Japaaese market to in.:luding Ddbi. in a pbased manner under N.T.P.C. its annual programme for enrolment of customers. subject to augmentation in avail- 5265. SHRI H. N. NANJE GOWDA: ability of LPG and bottling capacity. SHRI P. M. SAYBED: Issue of Power Bonds by N.T.P.C. Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleal. ed to state: 5264. SHRI H· N. NANJE GOWDA: SURI BHADRESWAR TANTI: (a) wbetber tbe National Thermal Power Corporation is taking biggest ever Joan of Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleas- 30 billion Yen (Rs. 300 crores) from Japanese ed to state: market; (a> whether the National Thermal Power (b) if so. in bow maoy instalments tbis Corporation is launchlO8 the tbird public loan will be repayable; issue of Power Bonds to raise Rs. 400 crores for supplementing tbe finance required (c) tbe interest to be paid to tbe for its leveral on-going and new power Japanese market; and projects; (b) whetber this 101n will help tbe (d) wbat are the other terms and con- National Thermal Power Corporation to ditions of loan ? improve its position; TEE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE the time by whIch tbe present Issue (c) DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE will be opened for subSCription; and MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHllA ROHTAGI): (a) to (d). Tbe (d) wbetber the NatIOnal Thermal Power Nallonal Thermal Power Corporation Corporation is getting good response tbJS (NTPC) bave raised a loan of Japanese Yen time or not 1 30 billion-tbrough a syndicate of inauranee companies, long term credit banks and otber THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE institutions led by tbe Industrial Bank of DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE Japan and tbe Nippon Life Insurance MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Company - for financing some of their on- SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a> to (d). The III going projects. The loan amQunt is divided Public Issue of the NTPC's Power Bonds in four Brancbes with final maturity of 15 of Rs. 400 crores, offered for subscription years from the date of loan agreement. Tbe from 10th Marcb to 19 h March, 19811. repayment of loan Rnd the interest payable baa been over-subscrIbed. The funds tbereon are as fonows : ",,.IIIe,, A",w" CHAITRA 9, 1'10 (SAICA) W,llIftI AlUtHrl 110 Amount of loan in Repayment Interest payable Japanese Yen Tranche 1 1 billion Bullet repayment 0.35% per annum (p.a.) over on maturity of Japanese Long Term Prime loan. Rate ULTPR) on the date of draw-down. Tranche 2 '1 bUJion J 7 semi-annual 0.2% p.A. over JLTPB. OD instalments fol- the date of draw-down, to lowing the grace be refixed on the 10tb period of 7 anniversary of loan with ycars. reference to the tben pre- vailing JLTPR plus a margin of 0.2%. Tranche 3 (; billion Same as Trancbe JLTPR fiat prevailing on 2 above. the draw-down rate. to be refixed on tbe 5 th and lOtb anniversary of the loan agreement with reference to the then prevailing JLTPR. Tranche 4 J 0 billion I S semi-annual 0.25% p.a. over 3-6 montha instalments fol- LIBOR for first 8 years lowing the grace from tbe date of Loan period of 8 agreement and at 0.315% yean. p.a. over 3-6 months LIBOR thereafter. Setting .p of AIR Stations in Orissa (c) tbe places in Orissa where All lndia Radio stations have been set up for commer- 5266. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : Will cial broadcasting and tbe area covered by the Minister of INFORMATION AND each such station; and BROADCASTING be pleased to .tate : (d) whether commercial broadcaltq (a) the places In Orilsa where tbe All radio stations are proposed to be set up at India Radio stations will be set up during Berhampur, Sambalpur, Rourkela, Sunabada. Seventb Five Year Plan and tbe capacity An.oJ and Damanjodi which are Jl'owtb tbereof; contres? (b, the action taken so far to set up THE MINISTER OF PAR,LIA- tbe All India Radio stationl at sucb places; MBNTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTEIt. 111 MAkCH 29, 1988 112 INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING According to .he J 3 rb Power Survey Report, (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT): (a) The the estimated peak load of Orissa for 198V- Seventh Five Year Plan 098S-90) envisages 88 is IS 8 4 MW wbich is anticipated to setting up of new radio stations in Orissa at 3283 MW by 1994-9.5. tbe following places : Opening of Dew post offices during Piau, Capacity 1988·89 1. Bbawanipatna With 2 X 130 KW MW Transmitter. 5268. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Berbampur With 2X5 KW 2, pleased to state : (Local) FM Transmitter. (a) whether Government have a proposal 3. Baripada With 2 X 3 KW under tbeir consideration to open some new post offices in 1988-89; and (Local) FM Transmitter. 4. RourkeJa (Local) With 2+3 KW (b) tbe number of existing post offices PM Transmitter. proposed to be upgraded in Orissa in 1988-89 ? S. Bolangir (Local) With 2+3 KW FM Transmitter. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY It NO MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (b) Sites have been tak en over for these (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. project excoept for setting up of studio at Rourkela, where it is expected to be taken (b) There are no proposals at present over shortly and all the projects are likely for upgradation of any of the existiDg post to be completed by 1989-90. offices in Orissa. (c) Only one radio itation at Cuttack Increase in Coal losses has been set up for commercial broadcasting in Orissa. It covers an area of about 2800 5269. SHRI BHATT AM Sq. kms. SRIRAMA MURTY: CHOWDHRY AKHTAR (d) No, Sir. HASAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased IllCI'eue in power demand of Ori Isa to state: 5267. SHRI SOMNATH RATH; Will (a) whether it is a fact that the produc- tbe Minister of ENERG Y be pleased to tion of coal as well as its price have been state: increasing ever since coal nationalisation; (a) whetber Orissa's present power (b) whether tbe losses have also been demand at 1000 M.W. ",ill increase to increasing; and 2200 M.W. by t 994-9'; and (c) tbe magnitude of losses during the last three years separately and the reasons (b) if so, the details thereof? therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE DBPARTMENT OF COAL IN THB MINIS11tY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C. K. SUSHlLA ROHTAGI): (a> aDd (b). JAfFER SHARIEF): (a) Yes, Sir. 173 CHAITRA 9. 1910 (SARA) 1704 (b) and (c). After nationalisatioo, Coat -40,000 lines per annum of India Limited, al. whole, bas been iocurr- Electronic Private Automatic in. lones exceptiog durinl the year ,981-8 2 Branch Exchanle (EPABX). when it earned a profit of Rs. 34.20 50,000 lines per annum of Clores. Electronic Rural Automatic Exchange (ERAX). Losses suffered by Coal India Limited during the last three years were as under: The project was approved for a capital c 1985-86 404.18 Setting np of Small Scale Industries 1986-87 331. 75 S 271. SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA : SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : Tbe main reasons for losses by Coal SHRJ ZAINAL ABEDIN : India Limited have been steep increase in tbe SHRI P.M. SAYEED : cost of projuction due to increase in tbe SHRI SAIFUDDIN wage bill, increase in the cost of other CHOWDHARY: inputs, like timber, explosives, petro}, oil SHRI R.P. DAS: and lubricanf (POL), higher incidence of SHRI AJOY BISWAS : depreciation and interec:t charges. higher SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: production of inferior grades of coal in the SHRI ANIL BASU : total production, etc. wbich have not been SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : fully compensated by increases in adminis- tered prices effected from time to time. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : Expansion of Telephone Industries in Kerala (a) whether Government's attention has heen drawn to tbe news item captioned 5270. SHRI K MOHANDAS: Will "Bu'iinessmen launch wives througb DSIDC the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Scheme' appeared in Hindi (Delhi Edition) pleased to state: of 24 February, 1988; (a) whether there is any proposal to (b) whether tbe Delhi State Industrial expand tbe existing telephone industries in Development Corporation and' organised Kerala; and programmes in February, J 988 to impart traming to indlvidllal entrepreneurs to set up (b) if so, the details tbereof ? small scale iodustries; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND (c) if so, the number of applications MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS received from such entrepreneurs to parti- (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. cipate in tt-e above programme; A project to expand the Electronic Switchin& Unit of the Indian Telephone Industries at Palghat is in progress. (d) tbe ~eta ils of persons who actually atteaded the programme. out of them bow many were women participants and the (b) Project envisages production of : background about their bUSIness; - 30,000 lines oer annum of Digital Trunk Automatic Ex- (e) the steps Government propose to change (DTAX) equivalent to take to mitigate the difficulties cllcountered 60,000 hnes of Jocal exchanges. by the prospective iC'dustrialists; and 115 MARCH 19, 1988 1'" (f) tho number of small scaJe W units set (a) and (b). ROSlerina 01 location. j, done up tbrough tbe DSIDC durina tbe last two by tbe OUlndustry annually in the Market- years till 31 De<::ember, J 987 ? in. Plans. From tbe year J t85 .. 86 to date tbe oil companies bave allotted' 3 Retai THB MINISTER OF INDUSTRY outlets (Petrol/Diesel) in Mabaraahtra. (SHRI 1. VENGAL RAO) : (8) Yes, Sir. includinl 7 in Ahmednaaar. (b) Yes, Sir. Uoder the Scheme of 011 Blockade In A.sam Entrepreneurial Development, which is a part of Tecbnical Consultancy Organisation. training programme. exclusively for women 5273. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHB entrepreneurs, was organised by DSIDC in PATIL: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM collaboration of Indian Council of Women AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to stato: Entrepreneurs (ICWE) during the period from 22,2.1988 to 2~.7.t988, (a) whether oil blockade in Assam still continues; and (c) Applications were received from 26 women for partIcipation in tbe programme. (b) if so, the remedial measures taken or are proposed to be taken in this regard? (d) 2S wom!n participated in the Pro- gramme. Only two women were employed- one fuU time and the other part-time. The THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN mE remaining 2 J women were house WIVes or MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND unemployed. NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE ALAM): (a) No, Sir. (e) Government is provldmg assistance to prospective entrepreneurs by way of (b) Does not arise. financial assistaoce. technical know how, supply of scarce raw mat~rials, marketing facilities for finished goods etc. Training Programme by Natloaa) Drllllog Training Centre. Nagpar (f) During tbe last two years upto 3 1.12. 87. DSI DC have allotted 103 indus- ~274. SARI BALASAHEB VIKHE trial sheds under Self Fanancang Scheme. PA TIL :WiII tbe Minister of PETROLEUM Tbey bave also allotted 22 7 work sbeds 10 AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: various commonity work centres. (a) whether tbe National Drilliog Tran- AUot.eat or Petrol Pamps in Mabarubtra ining Centre provides training at Nal'Pur to personnel in tbe field of exploratory 52'72. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHB drilling; PATJL: Will tbe MlDilter of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to (b) whether the centre allo conducts state: another induction course for drillinl opera- tions; and (a> tbe Dumber of petro) pumps allotted to Mahara,hara in tbe current plan period; (c if 10, tbe details thereof? an4 (b) the number of petrol pumps allotted THB DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to AbtDe4napr? MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE ALAN): THE DEPUTY MINISTBR IN THE la) No, Sir. MJNISrkY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SURI RAFJQUE AL~M): (b) and (c). Do not Iriac. 1,7 ""ltU" ""It,,,, CHAITRA 9, l' 10 (SARA) W,ltte" Atuwe" 1,. Coal Gattl8eatlon Pilot Project In required for collection of tbe same will not N ortb Gojarat be commensurate with the results~ likely to q~eachieved. 527S. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHB PATIL: WiJt the Minister of PETROLEUM Con,ideration of Representations on AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to DPCO by Kelkar Committee slato: 5277. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI (a) whether the Coal Gasification Pilot Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased Project in North Gujarat has started to state: operating; (b) if so, whether this project is designed (a) whether the Kelkar Committee bas to solve energy crisis in the country; and considered the representations received from different agencies about removal of anolD()oo lies and discrepancies in identification of (c) if so, the details thereof'? Drugs (Prices Control) Order, t 987; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) if so, the outcome thereof; and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NA TURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE ALAM) (a) to (c). It is an R&D Pilot Project. (c) if not, the time by which the work So far only one inf urmation well has been of the: Committee would complete? drilled. The extent of its contribution in meeting the energy requirements in the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY region/country would depend upon the (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (c). The success of the pilot project. Kelkar Committee is reviewing the represen- tations. prices of Vitamin MediCines TV Relay Centre at Agatti IslaDd ~276. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAJ: Will the Minister of Il'DUSTRY be pleased 5278. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA to state: REDDY: wm the Minister of INFORMA- TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (a) whether the prices of all brand of vitamin medicines have gone up during the (a) whether the Prime Minister opened a last one month; and television relay centre at Agatti Island on 30 December, 1987; (b) if so, what were the prices of each before the announcement of the Drugs (b) whether there was breakdown of this (Prices Control) Order, 1987 and what are relay centre; if so, the causes thereof; the prices at present'? (c) whether it has since been repaired: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY and (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) and (b). The prices of some single Itlgredient vitamlD (d) the total amount incurred on its formulations have gone up as the manufac- construction and subsequent repairs'? turers are free to revise the prices as per provisions of Drugs (Prices Control) Order, 1987. A large number of manufacturers are THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- producing vitamin formulations, the prices MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER of which are controlled. The details required OF INFORMAlION AND BROAD- in the question are quite voluminous and CASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) are not readily available. Time and efforts to (c). Yes, Sir. 179 MARCH 2.9, 1988 Written .4nsw" 180 (d) TV transmitter at Agatti has been Advisory Committee from 26 February, lOt up at an estimated capital expendittcre 1987 to 31 January, J 988, date-wise; and of Ra. 28.85 laths. No expenditure bas been incurred on its repairs which was due to (c) tbe reasons for appointing new failure of component, as the equipment is members and tbe present streD8tb of tbe still under guarantee and tbe repairs where Committee ., carried out by the manufacturer, free of cost. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS [Tra"iation] (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) Members of Telephone Advisory Committee for Bombay Supply of HBJ Pipeline Gas to have been nominated fol1owing the normal Industries procedure to represent various interests from the recommendations received from General Manager Telephones, 80mbay and those SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : 5280. received directly in the Headquarter. The Wilt the MlDister of PETROLEUM AND recommendatIons for nominations of NATURAL GAS be pleased to stale: Members of Parliament are obtained from Minic;try of Parhamentary Affairs A member (a) whether it is a fact that tbe 011 and of the Committee should normany be Natural Gas Commission has intImated residing in the ,zeographical juri~diction of about non-supply of Hazira-BIJalpur the Telephone District. Jagd~bpur pipeline gas for the next three months to the industries set up along the (b) The number of members nominated DBJ Pipeline; on Bombay Telephone Advisory Committee from 26th February, 1987 to 31st January, (b) if so, whether these industries are 1988, montbwise is given below: likely to be adversely affected; and March, 198; 1 (c) if so, the comprehensive steps taken April, 1987 - by Government in this regard ? Sept, 1987 2 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Nov., 1987 2 MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Dec., 1987 S NATURAL GAS (SHRf RAFJQUE Jan., t 988 2 AlAM) : (b) and (c). Do not arise. (c) Some of tbe Members initially nomina ted on Bombay Telephone Advisory Committee did not accept the nomination. The present strength of Bombay Telephone Advisory Committee as on date is ~ 3. Norms for Telephoue Advisory Committee, Bombay Import of LPG 5281. SHRI ANOOPCHAND SHAH: S282. SHRJ ANOOPCHAND SHAH: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND be pleased to state: NA TURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) the norms fonowtd for appointment (a) whether Government are Importing of members on Telephone Advl\ory LPG in huge quantIty to meet the present Committee in Bombay; demand in the country; (b) if so. the estimated quantity of LPG Cb) bow many new members were to be imported in J988-89 and 1989-90; appointed after tbe constitution of the new and 111 CHAIT.R.A 9, 1910 (SAKA) Iii (c) tbe foreian excbange involved therein, (b) Information relating to the pumPlOll year-wise? out of order and out of usc is not beina cgUated. THE DEPUTY MINJSTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NA- [Traniation] TURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE ALAM): (a) to (c). LPG bas to be imported into tbe S.T.D. facility ID States country to meet tbe gap between indigenous demand and supply. I t is expected tbat in tbe year 1988-89 and' 989-90 quantities of 5284. SHRI ASHKARAN SANKHA· 250,000 tonnes and 222,000 tonnes would WAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- be imported. As per present estimates, the TIONS be pJeased to state: value of imports in 1988-89 would be around Rs. 86 crores. As the pnces keep (a) the parts of tbe country where STD changing in the international market, it facility has been provided; would not be po3sible to estimate the value of imports in 1989-90. (b) tbe State-wise details in tbis regard; and Electrification of villages and pump set. energisaUon (c) tbe namel of tbe other places where Government propose to provide this facility 5283 SHRI BRAJAMOHAN during the current year 1 MOHANTY : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: lHE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINI~TER OF COMMUNICATIONS (a) the names of the States which have (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) and (b). List failed to achieve the targets for vlllage showmg tbe names of the places provided electrlficallon and pump sets energlsation With STD facility is laid on tbe table of tbe during first two and a balf )ears of Seventh House. Plan and tbe reasons tberefor; and [Placed in Library. See No. LT- (b) the number of pump sets which are 5848/Sts) out of order and out of use, State and Union Territory-wise? (c) Other places wbere tbis facility is proposed to be provided dunna 1987-88 are: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE 1. BongaigaoD (Assam) MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATl SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) Assam, Blbar. 2. Srivilliputtur (Tamilnadu) Orissa, West Bengal. Megbalaya, Arunacbal 3. Tundla (U.P.) Pradesh, Gujarat, Jammu and Kasbum. 4. Bijnore (U.P) Mizoram and Sdtklm could not achieve the targets fixed for village electnficatlon dUflDg S. Pitboraaarh (U .P) the fint two and a balf years of tbe Seventh 6. Hajipur (Bihar) Plan. Assam, Bibar. Manipur, Megbalaya. 7. Noaore (Tamimadu) Orissa. Nasaland and West DenIal could not achieve tbe taraets in respect of pumpsets energisation during the first two and a balf year of tbe Seventb Plan. Opening of Post otBces 1ft Rural There are various reaaons for non- Area. ID Kaaplll' achievement of the targets which include short supply of construction materials, 5285. SHRI ASHKARAN SANKHA- diflicult terrain in biIJy and tribal areas, lack WAR: Will tbeMinisterofCOMMUNICA- of demand, orpnisational deficiencies. ctG, lIONS be pleased to ltato : M,.aCH 29. t 988 In addition. Central Government provides Self Sufficiency in power geoeratioa various incentives and concessions. sucb as Central Investment Subsidy, Concesslona) Finance, Exemption from Income-tax etc, 5289. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will to entrepreneurs are for setting up industries the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 10 centrally declared backward districts areas. The entrepreneurs are eligible for Centra) Subsidy @ 25% subject to a maXlnlum of (a) the annual rate of increase in tbe Rs. 25 lakhs fN seUIDS up IDdustfles in the demand and generation of power; 'No Industry Districts' Assistance limited to 1/3rd of the total cost vf infra::.tructural (b) whetber any time-frame has beeen development. subject to a maximum of fixed for achieving self sufficiency in power Rs. 2 crores per 'No Industry District' is generation; and also provided for development of infrastruc- ture} facilities in identified !!ro\\tb centres iD these 'No Indus try Districts'. (c) if so, the details tbereof and the steps being taken in this regard? Defects in HBJ Pipeline THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 5288. SHRIMA TI KISHORI SINHA: DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE Will tbe Minl:.lcr of PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI NATURAL G\S be pleased to state: SUSHILA ROHTAGI) (a>: The growth in overaJI eDl'rgy requirement and eDCfIY (a) whether any defect bas been noticed generation in tbe country during the year in the construction of tbe HBJ Gas 1985-86, 1986·87 and 1987-88 is liven Pipelioe; below; t87 writ,." AluwtIr8 MARCH 29, 1988 W,III." A",."." 188 BMw r,qul,.,m."t % growth ON, E""6Y G.",rallon % po'Wth (a) whether as a part of strategy A number of mter-dialhng and group chalked out by Mission Better Communica- dialling :;chemes connecting various towns tion. Government propose to provide, have been planned all over the country. prompt. updated and efficient telecommuni- These schemes will connect vanous exchanges cation faCilities in the rural areas in tbe m a dIstrict which have community of Seventb Five Year PJan; mterest with each other. Some of the schemes have been implemented also and (b) if so, whether, the programme of others are being implemented dependlDg expansion of STD has been drawn to upon availability of resources. introduce this facility Within all the Small Auto Exchanges in a district and particularly (d) Question does not arise in view of to con~t in the first instance all exchanges (b) and (c). within a district to district headquarter and Tebsil/Block headquarters and with one Achievements of MissioD Better another and also to ensure the introduction Commuicatioo of STD between the neighbourina district headquarters exchanges within a State; 5291. PROf. NARAIN CHAND (c) if so, a brief outline thereof; and PARASHAR : Will the Minister of COM- MUNICATIONS be plellsed to state: (d) it not tbe reasons therefor and the reasons for ~rding priority to Jinkina (b) whether equal attention is paid by THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND the Mission to the needs of the rural areas MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS and the prompt expan~ion of telecom. (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a> The achieve- facilities through installation of Public ments made under the 'Mission Better Telephones both local and long distance Communications' since its inception (1 -4-86) and Telegraph Offices on the Morse Code; in respect of important indicators are as and under :- Indicator Status as on Status as on 1-4-86 1-2-88 1. % of delivery of telegrams within 12 22 75.0 day light hours between 500 cities. 2. Telephone faults (Faults per 100 3S 19.9 stations per month) 3. Telex faults (Faults per J 00 stations 60 32 8 per month) 4. Call Success Rate STO calJs 20 71.7 S. Can success rate of special services 40 78 such as 180. 181, 197, 198, and 199 etc. 6. Call Success rate special services 30 64.5 (answered within to Seconds) In addition 4,67,000 new telepbone Incentive scheme speedy delivery of connections and 6550 new telex conf'lections telegrams have been given during the penod from April, P6 to December, 1987. 5292. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR: Will the Minister of COM .. (b) Yes, Sir. MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) During the period from Arril 1986 THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT OF 'POWER IN THB (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (8) All the inhabit- ed villages in Punjab have been electrified. (b) The revised incentive scheme for The number of pumpsets onergised upto Te1egraphmen (outdoor) was introduced with 31-12-1987 is S,07.245 (provisional). effect from "9.1986 Under this scheme, an incentive is paid on telegrams delivered beyond 8" telegrams in a weekly speU of (b) and (c). Tbe Rural Electnt'ication duty in plain areas and beyond 60 telegrams schemes recf"ived from Punjab State Electri- in a week in specified hilly areas on the city Board are being sanctioned by the followIng slab rate basis: Rural Electrification Corporation subject to their being technicalJy and economicaJly Plain Areas feasible. Upto 84 NIL Estimated use of Energy 8S·IOO 20 Paise per message lOt-ISO 40 Paise per message 5294. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI : lSI and above SO Paise per message Will the MiDlster of ENERGY be pleased to state: Hilly Areas 1 to 60 NIL (a) whether any steps have been taken for tbe correct estimate of the energy used 61 to 75 20 Paise per telegrams JD the country and derived from non- 76 to 126 40 Paise per telegrams commerCial fuel; and 126 and above SO Paise per telegrams (b) if so, the details thereof? In addition a Trip Incentive of SO paise per Trip beyond 3 Trips is paid provided a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Telegraphman delivers more than 20 tele- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE arams per duty. For hilly areas this incentive MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI is paid beyond 2 Trips provided a telegraph- SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). Non- man delivers 15 telegrams per duty. commercial energy IS consumed mainly In the household sector. Based on the data available from sample surveys carried out EleCtrification of villages aDd tubewf nl by the National Council of Applied Ecooo- in Punjab mlC Research and tbe National Sample Survey Organisation, the per capital energy 5293. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: consumption ID the household sector has Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased been estimated as 0.38 tonnes of coal to state: replacement per capita per year in tbe rural areas and 0 4 tonnes of coal replacement per capita per year in tbe urban areas. (a) the number of villages and tube wells After estimf.'tmg tbe total energy consumptIon in Punjab which have been provided electri- using these norms, tbe commercial energy city till December. 1987; used is deducted to arrive at the estimate of non-commercial energy used. (b) wbether Union Government propose to saDCtion rural electrification schemes recommended by Punjab Government on Hike io aooual outlay for Natiooal priority basis; aDd Thermal Power Corporatioo 529'. SHRI BH-\ORESWAR TANTI . (c) if so. the time likely to be takeo in Wall tbe Mioi'1ter of ENERGY be plea! cd sanctioning these schelDes ? to state: I" CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) W,ltten dlllWe" 194 (a) wbetber there bas been a hike in (b) the number of cooking gas consume,. the National Thermal Power Corporation provided and tbe number of applicants who annual outlay; are on the waiting lists in Calcutta till February, 1988; and (b) if so, whether Government have taken any steps to compensate the hike in (c) the time by wbich they are likely the annual outlay; and to be provided with L.P.G. connections? (c) if so, tbe details thereof? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND DBPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI ALAM) : (a) to Ccl. As on January t. J 988 SUSHILA ROHTAGJ): (a) to (c). The upto which date figures are available, there proposed annual plan outlay of the National were about 4 56 Ja kh LPG customers and Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC) for the 1 .09 lakh persons on the waiting Jist in year 1988-89 is Rs. 2\85.34 crores, as Calcutta. Release of nf'W LPG connections against an outlay of Rs. 169".89 crores is done by the oil industry all over tbe for 1 987·88. The proposed Government country, including Calcutta, in a pbased budgetary support for 1988·89 is manner under its annual programme for Rs. 986.34 crores, as against Rs. 470.90 enrolment of customers, subject to augmen- crores for 1987-88 tation in availability of LPG and bottling capacity. Complaint. regarding selection of Shortage of vital drug' T. V. scripts for serials 5299. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: 52Q6. SHRI BHADRESWAR-TANTI : wm tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Will the Minister of INFOR'VIATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: state: (a) whether it is a fact that tbere is an (a) whether Government had received acute shortage of vital drugs in the capital; any complaints relating to tbe selection of T. V. scripts for different serials during (b) if so, the reason therefor; and 1986-87 and 1987-88; (c) whether any measures are contemp- (b) if so, the details thereof; and lated to make these drugs available in the (C) whether any investigation was made capital? into these complaints? THE MnnSTER OF I~DUSTRY THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (c). No, TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF Sir. All vital drugs are adequately available INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING in the capital. Shortages wberever reported (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT): (8) No, Sir. are of brand nature and theraoeutic equiva- No complaint duly substantiated by facts has lents are generally available. However. an been received by the Government. imported anti-cancer drug. Adriyamicin was under short supply. MIs Walter Busbnell (b) and (c). Do not arise. who is marketing this drug, bave informed significant improvement in the availability LPG connections on Calcutta of tbe drug. registered with Registrar 5298. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will Newspaper the Minister of PETROLEUM AND of Newspapers for Joel'. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 5300. DR. PHULRENU aURA: (a) the time·gap in providing cooking Will the Minister of INfORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: gas connection to consumers in Calcutta; 195 W,ltt." AluwlrI MARCH 29. 1988 Wrltt,,, """",., THB MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF Statement INFORMATION AND BROADCASTlNG (SHRI H K.L BHAGAT): (a) There were 8.13. We are of the view that, for 26,614 publications on the Jive register of better mar·agement and discipline, aJJ tbe Registrar of Newspapers for India a" on companies whose paid-up capital is not 3 t -12-1986. less than twenty-five lakh rupees. should be statutorily required to employ a Chief (b) 1,767 newspapers were allotted full Accountant or Financial Controller and, If year's quota of newsprint during i 98":;- such a company is engaged in any manufac- 87. turing or other specified activity. should also employ a Cost Accountant. The Manufae- t'uing and other Companies lAuditors' (c) Allocation of newsprint is rna de in Report) Order I 1975 requires tbat tbe terms of the Newsprint Allocation Polley statutory audItors should report on tbe 8noounced by the Government from time to adequacy of both internal control and time. internal audit systems in case of companies baving a paid-up capital of twenty-five lakh Sadaar Committee recommendations rupees or mort. We, therefore, suggest 1be .. cost aceOUDting profession followwg in respe( t of companic!s having a paid-up capital of twent}-five lakh rupees or more : __ 5301. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Will tbe Minister of IN DUSTR Y (i) Accountant. who is 10 char(2e of be plea~ to state: tbe financial books of account of the company, should be one who (a) tbe recommendations made by the is a member of the Institute of High Power Committee appointed under the Chartered Accountants of India. Chairmanship of Justice Rajendra Sachar However. any indivjdual. who is J1!IardiDg cost accounting profession ; holding such an office at tbe tIme this provision is enacted, shall (b) whether these recommendatIons continue to function as such though have been accepted and IDcorporated in tbe he may not be a member of the Companies Act ; and Institute of Chartered Accountants of India. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (ii) If sucb a company is engaged mainly in the construction of ships THE MJ~'STER OF INDUSTRY ISHRJ or in the manufacture or processing J. VENOAL RAO) : (a) Recommendauons of goods or in mining/or in genera- of tbe Hiab-powered Expert Committee on tion and distribution of electricity, Companies and M.R.T.P. Act. regardin. it should have in its employment cost accountioC profession are given In I he Cost Accountant who is a member Jtatemoot belOW. of tbe IDItitute of Cost and Works WIlt/en Aliiw'" CHAitllA 9, 19i6 (SAKA) Accountants of India. However, Cost Auditor. Besides, in keeping with our any individual, who is holding such recommendations to confer greater rights on an office at the time this provision the shareholders, we suggest that all tbe is enacted, shall continue to provisions relating to the appointment, function as such though he may resignation, etc. of a statutory auditor under not be a member of tbe Institute section 224 of the Act by the shareholders of Cost and Works Accountants of be made applicable for the appointment of India. a Cost Auditor also by amending suitably section 233B (2). (Hi) A company referred to at (H) above should also bave an internal [Translation] Auditor. 8.14. We suggest that in respect of Compensation to Gram Sabhas companies engaged mainly in the construc- affected by Matbura Refinery tion of ships or in the manufacture or processing of goods or in mining or in 5302. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH : generation and distribution of electricity and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND having a paid up capital of twenty-five lakh NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: rupees or more, in addition to tbe Manage- ment, the Cost Audit for, if cost audit for (a) whether the compensation has not tbat industry bas been ordered, should certify so far been paid for the land of Gram Sabhas in the balancesbeet the figures shown as acquired at the time of setting up of the stock-in- trade, stores, spares, raw materials, Mathura Refinery; tools and work -in progress. (b) if so, the reasons therefor ; and 8.21. Section 2338 (c) the time by which the compensation We are of the opinion that maintenance will be given to them? of Cost Accounting Records in certain types of industries and their continuous audit by an appropriate Cost Auditor will not only be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE a steps in the direction of consumer pro- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND tection but also will be an advantage to the NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE company itself. We feel tbat the present ALAM): (a) Compensation due to the practice of conducting Cost Audits intermit- land of Gram Sabhas acquired through the tently is not of any particular assistance to State Government of Uttar Pradesh has the companies or to tbe consumers at large. already been paid by the Indian Oil We must add here that managements of Corporation to the district authorities. progressive companies .have, as a matter of prudence, instituted Cost Accounting Systems (b) and (c). Do not arise. and have also authorised Cost Audits even when not so ordered' in any appropriate [English] order. We recommend tbat, when Cost Audit is ordered In respect of any particular industry under the provisions of section Power transmission projects behind 233B, sucb audit should be continued every schedule year unless the Central Government, for reasons to be specified, decides to discontinue 5303. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN : such audit in any particolar industry. DR, B,L. SHAILESH : 8.22. Under the provisions of the' Act. a Cost Aud1tor should be appointed by the Board of directors of the company with Will the Minister of ENERGY be the previoos approval of the Central pleased to state: Government. We see no reason for a distinction in the procedure followed for the (a) whether it is a fact that many power appointment of a Financial Auditor and a transmission projects are behind schedule; MAR.CH 29i 1988 Writ/I. AIuwft, 200 (b) if so, wbat will be tbe effect of sgreements with the World Bank are conclu- these delays on tbe supply of electric power ded. to industries, agriculture as well as to tbe consumeR ; and Escalation in cost of Korba Project (c) what steps have beeD taken by Government to expedite completion of the 5305. SHRI MUKUL WASNIK : Will pending transmission projects and the the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to results tbereof ? state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the proposed National DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE Thermal Power Corporation's Korba plant MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI is supposed to supply electricity to Chandra- SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). The pur; power transmission projects are being planned and implemented in a maDner that (b) whether the project is likely to be they match wltb the capacity additions delayed as the Maharashtra State Electricity programmes on the generation front. Power Board (MSEB) has Dot built the power sub- supply to the various categories of consumers station at Chandrapur; and is being effected by the State Electricity Board/Departments through the existing transmission and dish ibution networks. (c) if so, the estimated escalation of the cost of the Korba Project and the likely date (c) The implementation of important of its commencement? transmission projects is being regularly monitored by the Central Electricity Authority/Department cf Po\\er, with a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE view to ensure their timely completion. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : \a) to (c). The power torelgD aid for Electrification of Villages generated at the Korba Super Thermal Power Project h supplied, in bulk. over the 400 5304. SHRI R.M. BHOYE: Will the K V transmission network of the National Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Thermal Power Corporation to States in the Western Region includmg Maharashtra-who further distribute tbe same to various consu- (a) whether Government have sought mers through their own transmission systems. foreip aid for the electrification of Villages A 400 KV line from Bhilai to Chandrapur, tbe country; in WIth a sub-station at Cbandrapur, has been proposed with the Korba project; this sub- (b) if so, the details thereof and the station wbould be inter-connected with the terlDl and (;Onditions in regard thereto; and sub-station of the Maharashtra State Electri- city Board at Cbandrapur. (c) the number of villages likely to be ,overed by this aid ? Tnc 200 MW units of the Korba project THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE we, t: generally commissioned on schedule and DBPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE lh\: two 500 MW units have been commis- MINISTRY OF El--ERGY (SHRIMA 11 sl_ned ahead of schedule. The a&;proved cost SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). DISCU~~ioD ot tbe project. alon8 with associated traD5 4 was beld with the teem of W..>rld Bank mission hnCl, is Rs. 1138.44 crores. Office" in February, J I.j t 8 in regard to the Fourth Rural Electrification Project envisag- Stept to stop films glamorillDg smokiDg ina World Bank assistanco of $ S 7 S million which would help in electnficatioD of 40,000 villaps. The amount of loan and other S306. SHkl MUKUL WASNIK: Will tcnDI and (;Onditions would be known only the Minister of INFORMATION AND II"" tbe projea ""PC ia firmed up aDd BROADCASTING be pleased to state; 201 Wrltlea blrHrI CHAITRA 9. 1910 (SAKA) W,I"•• JI4,u...,. 202 (a) whetber Government are eXAmining a distributor is completed by Oil Selection bow to stop films wbicb glamorise smoking Board (Soutb), on television; Setting up of Thermal Power Plant (b) if so, wbetber any strategy to this at Tirkaripur effect bas been worked out; and 5308. SHRI MULLAPALLY RAMA- (c) if 80, tbe details tbereof? CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PARLTAMEN- TAR Y AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF (a) whether any fresh proposal to set up INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING Thermal Power Plant at Trikaripur bas been (SHRI H.K L. BHAGAT) : (a) to (c). Door- received from Kerala Government; and darsban telecasts only sucb feature films wbich arc duly certified by the Centera) Board of \b) if so, the decision taken in this Film Certification of India. The present guide- regard? lines approved for telecast of such films do not prohibit films having smoking sequences from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE being put on tbe air. In case of films directly DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE procured from abroad or produced locally by MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Doordarshan (for whicb Doordarsban is its SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) and (b). own censor), care is taken to ensure that Tbe project feasibility report in respect of out-of-context sequences glamorising smoking a thermal power station (2 x 210 MW), at are minimised. Trikaripur in Kasargode district, was received in the Central Electricity Authority (CEA) LPG agenCies in Palgbat district of in November, 1987, from the Kerala State Kera)a Electricity Board (KSEB). The proposal could be coniidered for technoeconomic S307. SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHA- appraisal by the CEA after statutory require- VAN: Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM ments as per Section 29 of the Electricity AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to (Supply) Act, 1948 have been complied state: with by the KSEB, necessary inputs, such as coal linkage, availability of water, etc., have (a) whether there is any proposal to been tied up aDd requisite clearances, incJud· sanction new cooking gas agencies in Palghat ing clearance from the environmental angie, district of Kerala during 1988-89; have become available. (b) if so, the details thereof; and Telephone Adalats (c) the time by which these agencies are likely to be sanctioned 7 5309. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- CHANDRAN : Will tbe Minister of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND (a) whether tbe Telecommunications NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE Departmt'nt has been bolding AdaJats to ALAM): (a) and (b). An LPG distributor- decide n ltters/complaints relating to tele- ship at Kollcngoda in Palgbat district in phone users; Kerala is planned to be sel up by IOC in addition to the Letters of Intent Issued to (b) if so, tbe details of location,at whicb the selected candidates by IOC and HPC for such Adalats were held, frequency of holdina new distributonhips in the district at sueb Adalats, number of complaints received Mannarghat, PalahatjPuddusseri and and number decided during 1987; and pa1ahat; (c) whether Government propose to bold (c) The distributorship planned by IDC more such Adalats, if so, the details will be awarded as soon as the selection of thereof? { MARCH 29, 1988 Written AlI,",., , THB MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Demand of power iD Keral. MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) Ye't Sir. 5311. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- CHANDRAN : Will the Minister of (b) From the date of introduction since ENERGY be pleased to state : 12.8.1987, Telephone Adalats have been held at Deihl, Bombay, Calcutta, Madras, (a) the total demlDd of power in the Baop.)ore, Kanpur, Ahmedabad, Hyderabad, State of Kerah! durinl 1985 J 986 and Pune and Goa. The Adalats are held at an 1987; • interval of 3 months. 1486 cases were received. Out of these, 1470 cases were (b) the total output of puwer from decided on ·the-spot. For tbe remaining Kerala's power projects during these three cases, anotber date was given and these also years; have since been decided. (c) whether any allocation has been made (c) IDlual1y, the concept was introduced for increasing the capacity of power projects an experimental basis in metro/major in Kerala; and districts. Bued upon the en:ouraging results choieved, orders have been issued 10 Febru- ary 1988 to cover all the districts of the (d) if so. the details thereof? country. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE Offering of shares of public sec tor MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI ODits to general public SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) The energy requarement of Kerala during 1985-86, 5310. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- 1986-87 and 1987-88 (upto Feb.' 88) was CHANDRAN: Will tbe Mimster of 5225 million units, 5S 6 7 million units and INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : 5595 million unlts respectively. (a) whether Union Govt'rnment provose (b) The energy generation In Kerala to offer shares of tbe public sector units to durmg 1985-~6, 1986-87 and 1987-88 the general public; (upto Feb.' 88) was 5357 Imlhon units. 4647 million UDits and 3701 million DOlts respectively. (b) if so, the reasons therefor; (c) and (d). The Seventh Plan envisaged an outlay of Rs. 396.80 crores for the power (c) whether any steps have been initlat- sector in Kerala. target of addition of ed towards implementation of thl' proposal; A 530 MW of new capacity was fixed for the Seventh Plan out of which capacity totalliog (d) if so, the details thereof; and 465 MW bas already been commissioned. (e) what has been the response of the public ? Programme to provide cooking gas THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY 5312. DR. V. VENKATESH: win tbe (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (e). One Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL of tbe recommendation of the Conference of G AS be pleased to state : Chief Executives of Public Sector Under- takinp held in January 1988 is that, wh~re (a) whether the fourth phase of tbe pouible, the successful public sector under- Government's proaramme to provide cookiDa takiogs shoJud be able to off-load upto 25 ps has commenced tbis year; per ccmt of their shares to their employees and general public at market value. The (b) if so, whether preference will be recommendations of tbe Conference are given to remote ureas and biJJy area. UDder under consideration of tbe Government. this proarammc; aDd 205 W"t~" .4a1W., CHAITRA 9. 1910 (SAKA) Wrltte" lInIwer. 206 (c) bow mucb time it will take to supply Will the Minister of PETROLEUM cookiDa gas to small towns 7 AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state t THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether the crude import plan MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND through term contracts and spot purchases NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE for ! 98 8·89 has t-een tina Used? ALAM): (a) and (b). Yes. Sir. LPG connections will continue to be released by the Oil Industry all over the country incJud- (b) if so. the details thereof? ing remote and hilly areas, \througb its existing distributorships, in addition to new (c) whether some urgent short-term and distributorships under its Annual Marketing long-term measures are proposed to be taken Plans, subject to viable marketing of to reduce the imports of crude cit and LPG; petroleum products in the year 1988-89; and (c) The Oil Industry is normally taking up, in a phased manner, locations in the (d) if so, the details thereof; country, with a population of around 20.0~O and above (as per 19M 1 Census) THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE which offer sufficient potential for viable VIN1STRY OF PETROLEUM A'\IO marketing of LPG. NATUR~L GAS (SHRI RAElQUE ALAM): fa) a1)d (b). During the }ear Applications ror telepbone conoections 1988 V9, it is prorosed to ilI'port a quantity in Karnataka of 18.06 million tonnes of crude od. While part of it will be thr0ugb term contracts, spot purcha~es are made as and when 53 J 3. DR. V. VENKATESH : Will the required. Mmister of COM M UNICATIONS be pleas- ed to state: (c) and (d). The important steps. among others. to reduce imports are to intensify (a) whether any applications have been exploration efforts. curb consumption of received for telephone connectIOns in POL and promote conservation through Karnataka in the last three quarters up-to- various measures. date; and (b) if '10, the number of applications Sick Industries in Aodhra Pradesh pending with Government at present? 531 5. SHRI M RAGHUMA REDDY: THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Will the Ministe~ of INDUSTRY be pleased MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS to state: [SARI VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Su. 25109 applications have been receiwd for (a) whether it is a fact that the sick telephone connections in Karnataka in the industries in Andhra Pradesh are likely to be last three quartrrs i e. from J st June. 1987 nationali<;ed or reviewed; to 29th February. 1988. (b) From the applications received a!> (b) if so, whethet any Jist of sick mentioned above, 2 J 821 applications are indmtr es or any recommendations in relation pending as on 29.2.t9~8. The total waitmg therto have been received from the State list as on 29.2 1988 in Karnataka is Government; and 67.368. (c) if so, the detaIls thereof'? Import bUt for OU BDd Petroleum products 5314. DR. A.K. PATEL: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY SHRI C. JANGA RIDDY : (SHR1 1. VENGAL RAO): (a). For revival SHRIRADHAKANTA of sick industrial units Government of India DIGAL: have got a uniform policy for tbe whole 207 MARCH 29. 1988 208 country including tbe State of ADdhra regarding sick industries have been received Pradesh. Some of the important aspects of in this Ministry. the same are as follows: (c) Does not arise. (i) The Government have enacted a comprehensive legislation namely. Power Generation RChemes In 'The Sick Industrial Companies Andhra Pradesh by N.T.P.C. (Special Provisions) Act, 1985'. A quasi judicial body designated S 116. SHRI M. RAGHUMA as 'The Board for Industrial and REDDY: Will tbe Minister of ENERGY be Financial Reconstruction' (BIFR) pleased to state : has been set up under the Act to deal with the problems of sick industria) companies in an effective (a) whether any scheme has been framed manner. which has become opera- by tbe National Thermal Power Corporation tional with effect from the 1 Sth to increase the power generating capacity May. 1987. of its projects during the Seventh Five Year Plan period in Andhra Pradesh to meet tbe (ii) The Reserve Bank of India have power shortage; and issued guidelines to the banks for strengthening the monitoring systems (b) if so, the details tbereof alongwith and for arresting industrial sickness the funds earmarked for this purpose? at the incipient stage so that corrective measures are taken in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE time. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE M INISTR Y OF ENERGY (SHRIMATJ (iii) The banks have also been directed SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). The by the Reserve Bank of India to formulate rehabilitation package for National Thermal Power Corporation(NTPC) is implementir'g the Ramagundam Super the revival of potentially viable units. The banks and financial Thermal Power Project (3+200+ 3 X 500 MW) in Andhra Pradesh for supply of Institutions evolve rehabilitation power to the State in the Southern Region. packages for the revival of sick While the 200 MW units have come into units. commercial operation, the SOO MW units (iv) Reserve Bank of India have also are in various stages of construction. The issued guidelines separately to the first two 300 MW units are expected to be banks indicating parameters within commissioned in July, 1988 and July, 1989 which banks could grant reliefs and respectively. concession!> for rehabilitation of potentially viable sick units without An allocation of R s. 11 CO 70 crores reference to RBI both in the large has been made for the power station and and small scale sectors. its associated transmission lines during the (v) Government of India introduced Seventh plan period. a 'Margin Money Scheme' with a Production of Gal from Coal view to supplementing the efforts of tbe State Governments in reduc- S317. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: ing the incidence of sickness in the Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to small scale sector. Under the state: liberalised scbeme the maximum amount of assistance per unit available to sick small scale units (a) whether any project for producing for rehabilitation has been increased gas from coal and for use of such las in from Rs. 20000 to Rs. 50000. tbe aPenllal power stations has been c\'alua· ted kl Andhra Pradesh; and (b) From tbe Government of Andhra Pradesb, no recommendations/sulFstions (b) if so, tbe details thereof? 209 CHA'TR~ 9, 1910 (SAKA) W,lttm "tfltf'~" 210 THE MINISTER OF STA TE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHR] C.K. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE JAFFER SHARIEF): (a) Yes Sir. There MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI ha ve been some complaints on quality of SUSHILA ROHTAOI): (a) No, Sir, coal which mainly relate to supplies of oversized coal, mixture of ellttraneous (b) Does not arjle, material alongwith coal and supplies of coal with high ash content. Such complaints T . V. Serials mainly o::cur because in some coal seams stones, shale etc. aTe found interbedded with 5318. SHRJ SURESH KURUP: Will COlI. Indian coal" are generaHy found to the Minister of INFORMATION AND contain high ash content, which has been BROADCASTING be pleased to state: increasing with the passage of time on account of gradual depletion of reserves of (8) what has been the public response superior grade and increased production to the T.Y. serial 'Tamas'; from mines having reserves of inferior grade of coal. (b) whether Government intend to tele- cast some more serials like 'Tamas'; and (b) Each of these complaints is investi- gated and corrective act on taken. Important (c) if so, the details thereof? steps taken to improve tbe quality of coal supplied to the consumers include : THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER -setting up of a Quality Control OF INFORMATION AND BROAD- Organisation in each coal company; CASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) While some parties 'organisations wanted -installation of coal handliag and Doordarshan to stop the telecast of this screening plants in a phased manner. serial, an opinion pDlI conducted in Bombay OD behalf of a newspaper, while the serial -breaking of oversized coal and removal was on. showed that a majority of respon- of extraneous material manually to deDts wanted the telecast of the serial to the extent p:Jssible at loading points continue. where coal handling plants are not available. (b) and (c). Doordar<;han Will continue to produce and telecast programmes up- holding secular values and exposing {English] communalism and anti-social elements. Investigation info Gift Schemes aoo [Tran.tlallon} Price Revision of Consumer Goods Fall in quality of Coal 5'320. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY 5319. SHRI K.N. PRADHAN: Will be pleased to state : the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) wb-!ther Go, ernment are aware that the manufacturers of reputed consumer (<1) whether some :O;01all mdu~tries have items offer gifts 'other schemes and frequent made a complaint to the effect that quality revislOn of prices with a view to promote and of coal has been f..tlllng continuousl); and manipulation of s:.tles which is forbidden under tbe Monopolies and Restrictive Trade (b) jf so, the action taken in this Practices Act;- regard? (b) whetber the Director General. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Iovestigation and Registration proposes to DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE investigate into these matters; and III MAttCH 29. t 988 212 (c) If so, the details thereof and if not, whether the power lenorttlon of the reasons therefor '1 Bjhar is lees as compared to population; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (b) if so. the timo by whicb Government J. VENGALA RAO) : (8) to (c). As per the propose to give approval to tbe Tcnughat provisions of the MRTP Act. 19~9, relating (Pbase-II and Bihta (Patna) Thermal Power to unfair trade practices, tbe Director Projects and arrange financial assistance from General of I and R has, during the period outside for tbe execution of these projects in August, 1984 to December. 1987. submit- view of the limited financial resources of ted iDvestisation reports to the MRTP Bihar; Commission in a large number of cases of manufacturers of consumer items offering (c) whether Tenughat TbelDlal Power gifts/other schemes for promoting !'ale of Station Phase-n bas been given technical their products. The time and effort involved approve) by tbe Central Electricity Autho- in the compilation of details of these cases rity but it is pending with the Ministry of will not be commensurate with tbe purpose Environment and Forest for clearance from sought to be achieved. environmental point of view; (TrOM/Olioll] (d) tbe action proposed to be taken by Government to ensure dearness and execu- Appro'a' to Sbakbjal Power Project, tion of power generation projects as early as Bihar passible at all Jevcls; aod (e> the details thercof ? S321. SHRIMATI MADHllREE SINGH: Will the Minister of ENERGY: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be pleased to state : DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SBRIMATI (a) whether the project report of tbe SUSHILA ROHTAGl): (a) During the Shakbjal Power Project of Bihar Srate has period April. 19.87 to February. 1988, as been given technical and financial approval; agamst the power rcquirement of 4695 million !.lnitCl in Bi"ar, the availability was (b) if not, the reasons for the delay; 3795 million UDitS. and (b) to (e). The proposed Tenugbat (c) the time by which tbis work Ie; I kc]} tbermal power project Stage 11 (3 X 2 J0 to be completed ? MW) bas been techno-economically cleared by the CEA at an estimated cost of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Rs. 669. I 0 crores. Clearance from the DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE environmental angle is awaited_ A proJcct MINISTR Y OF ENERGY (SHR I MAT I feasibiht\' report in regard to the proposed SUSHILA ROHT AGI): (a) No project Bibta tbermal power project (2 X 70 MW) report for Sbakhjal power project In Bihar is undcr exemmation in tbe CEA In consult a . State hal beea recejved by tbe C( ntrat tion wltb the various appraising agencies Electricity Autbority for tecbno-economic aod could be conSidered for techno ecoDomlC clearance. clearance after all necessary inputs have beon tied up. (b) and (c). Do not arise in view of abOve. (Engl/d] C'learure to Teaugbat aDd Blbta MeetinK of Cblef M'DI.tell aad TIaema.t Power Project. of BUlar Energy Mln'ster' of State. '322. SHRIMATI MADHPREE 5323. SHRI KALI PRASAD SINGH: Will tbe Minilter of EN ERG Y PANDEY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be ,leased to state : be picaRd to state : Jjlrm,,, bIW", CHAtTRA 9. 1910 (SAKA) Wrlll,. ,4",." (8) whether it was decided in the recen- Taking up of Power Project b, T.... tly concluded meeting of Cbief Ministers la Collaboratloa "Ith Karaatab and Bnergy Ministers of States that Uuion Go,.rnment Government sbould immediateJy give power to State Electricity Boards to is!ue deben- 53 2S. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJIiS tures to mobilise resources for on going and W ARI : Will the Minister of BNERGY be new power projects; pleased to state : (b) if so, the reaction of Government to (a) whether it is a fact that Talas bave the above demand to States and tbe details expressed interest in taking up a power of tbe action taken so far; and project in Karnataka in collaboration with (c) the reasons for not giving such an the State Government; epproval by Union Government and the time by whicb the necessary approval is (b) if so, whether Union Ooveroment hkcly to be given to the above suggestion? have examined the proposal made by the Tatas for taking up the power project in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Kamataka; DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTR Y OF ENERGY (SHRIMA TI CC) if so, the details of the proposal; SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). In and State Power Ministers' Conference held on 27.2. I 988, the representatives of some (d) tbe time by which Union Govern- States and suggested that the State Electri- ment will clear tbi~ project? city Boards might be allowed to raise bonds to mobilize resourees. It was decided, inter THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE alia, that a Working Group consistjn~ of DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE representatives of the Department of Power} MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Central Electricity AuthOrity and the State SCSHILA ROHTAGI): 5324. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: Power Geaeratioa Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to stat: 5326. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- (a) whether Government have a proposal WARI : Will the Minister of ENERGY be to set up a separate Coal Division exclusi- pleased to state : vely for Orissa; (a) whether total generation of power (b) whether such proposal is going to be during 1988-89 will be bigher than that implemented during 1988-89; and duriog the corresponding period last year; (c) if so, tbe steps taken in tbis regard? (b) if so, whether thermal generation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE bas also cx~eded tbe tarlet; DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. (c) if so, to wbat extent the power JAFfER SHARIBF) : (a) No, Sir. generation bas exceed(d the tallet up till 1987. and (b) and (c). Do Dot arise. ~lS W,itten AlUwers MARCH 29, 1988 Wrlll~n .t4",'tHf' ~16 (d) tbe efforts being made to improve THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE further in 1988 '/ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUB THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ALAM) : (a) Karnataka Electricity Board, DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE on behalf 'Of Southern Region Electricity MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI Board (SREB), had requested the Govern- SUSHILA ROHTAGl): (a) The energy ment to consider laYlDg a natural gas generation target f(lr tbe year 1988-89 pipeline to at least one of tbe States in the would be higher tban tbe generation during Southern Region> 1987-88. (b) to (d). As the quantum of natural (b) Tbermal generation during 1987-88 gas presently available in Cauvery and wauJd be over 6 billion Units more than the Knsbaa Godavari Basins in tbe Soutbern target. Region is very small, it IS not found feaSible to lay an HBJ-ltke gas pipehne in the region (c) Duriug the perIod April, i 987- at present. February, 1988 the total power generation was about 98.2 per cent of tbe target mamly (TranslatIOn) on account of low hydel generatIon due to inadequate ralDfall. Re\ ision of prices of cine films by Cd) Various rnea~ures bemg taken to Hindustsn Photo Films Manufac- increase the availability of power mclude tUring Com pan) Ltd. expeditIOUS commissiomng of new capacIty. implementation of short gestdtlOn projects, 5 1 28. SHRI BALWANT SINGH jmprovmg the performance of eXI~tlDg power RAMOOWALIA: W,ll the M.Dlster of statIons, reduclDg transml'>Slon and dlstnbu- INDUSTRY be pleased to state. tion losses, ImplementatIon of demand management and enc'gy conservatloo (a) whl!ther the prices of cloe films have measures. been revised four times durmg the last three :>ears by tbe Hmdustan Photo FIlms ManufacturlDg Company Ltd.; HOJ type gas pipeline in harnataka (b) If so, tbe facts JD thIS regard; and 5327. SHRIMATl BASA\tARAJES- WARI : Will the MJDIster ot PETROLEUM (c) the dates on whIch tbese pnces were AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: re\,lst:d and the extent to v.hlch pnccs were JDcreased each tlmC! ? whether Karnataka Government bas requested Union Government to sanc- tion an HBJ Type gas pipeline lD the THE MINISTER OF I~DUSTR Y southern region WIth a view to utll,:,IDg the (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO) : (a) to (c). aas available there; Due to increase m the pnces of major raw matenals like silver, chemIcals etc. and tb) If so. whether tte request of adverse exchange rate variatIon, changes in K,arnataka Governmcnt has been conSIdered; duty stru ... ture, vanatlon in the pnces of imported Jumbo rolls etc.; Hindustan Photo (c) If so, the time by whIch tbe sanction Films Manufactunng Company Ltd. bad to is lakely to be accorded; and JL \ I~e the prices of elDe films. The dates of IeVl~lon and the percentage increase arc as (d) If not, tbe reasonl thereof ? belov. ; CaAITaA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Wrille. AluWI', 218 1.4.85 18.4.86 22.12.86 2J.I0.87 15.3.88 Cine positive (B & W) 6% 4% 10% 10% Cine Sound 6% 4% 10% 10% Cine Colour (G 9) 6% 19% 11.7% S% 4% Cine Colour (R 4 H) 6% 14% 5% 5.5% Cine Colour (07) 6% 15% 9% Cine Colour (Fiji) 4% (a) whether the cost of power generation in Imiia is high as compared to power Shifting of office of Additional generation costs in several advanced and Postmaster General from developing countries; Siliguri to Jalpajguri (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and 5329. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (c) what steps have been taken to bring be pleased to state : these costs at par with the norms accepted internationally? (a) whether Government have decided to shift the office of the AdditIonal Postmaster THE MIN ISTER OF STATE IN THE General from Slliguri to Jalpaiguri; DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (b) if so, the reasons therefor; SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (0:). It is not possible to make a comparison of the (c) whether the proposal had evoked cost of power generation in India with the cost protest from dlfferent quarters; and of power generatIOn in various countries. Variations in the cost of power generation (d) if so, whether Government propose would, inter alia depend upon several factors to reconsider the decision ? like variatIOns in cost and quality input the demand pattern of the system, capital THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND cost of equipment thereof depreciation, MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS the pattern of financing and the policy (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. adopted With regard to norms of profitability. (b) The headquarters of the Divisional Setting up of man made fibre uaits Commissioner is )oca~ed at Jalpaiguri and in public sector therefore if Additional PMG is also located at Jalpaiguri he can have better liaison with tbe State Government through the Divisional 5331. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN Commissioner. Jalpaigur j. SINHA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) A number of representations for and against hilve been received. (8) whether there are any proposals to set up man made fibre units in public sector (d) There IS no proposal for reconsidera· using intermediates manufactured by the tion of the decision. public sector units like the Indian Petro- chemicals Corporation Limited; Increase in cost of power generation (b) if not, the reasons therefor; 5330. SHRI SATYBNDRA NARAYAN SINHA: Will tbe Minister of ENERGY be (c) whether there are high profits in man pleased to .tate : made fibre units; 219 W,lt,." A,.",.,s MARCH 29. 1988 Wrl,t." AIISWI" 2~O (d) whether beneRts of the raw materials (b) Pauri, Lansdown. which go to make man made fibres and which are made in the public sector alone (c) No, Sir. go to private sector; and • (e) if so. the reasons therefor? Cd) Tbe question does not arise. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY [English) (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (8) and (b). Intermediates for the production of Synthetic New telephone exchanges and esteal'on Fibres viz. DMT and MEG manufactured of lines witb nsers' asslstaDce by the Indian PetrochclJlicals Corporation Ltd. (IPCl) are utilised at present by the ~333. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: existing Synthetic Fibre units. However. WilJ tbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS MIs. Bongaigaon Refinery and Petrochemi- be pleased to state : cals Ltd. (BRPL). a public sector unit. would be utilising their own IDtermedlate viz. DMT to the extent neceS')8ry in the (a) wbether Government arc considering manufacture of Polyester Staple Fibre. a proposal to undertake settlng up new telephone excbanges aod extending telepbone connections on priority for which the users (c) While man made fibre units are come forward to share the expenses; aod expected to make re850nable profit. these units have been representing regardlDg low return on investment due to marketing (b) if so. the details tbereof? constraints, etc. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND (d) and (e). Raw materials for Synthetic MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS Fibres are at present produced by tbe units (SHRI VASANT SATHE) (a) No. Su. in both Public and Private sectors. (b) Does not arise in view of reply to [TrlUUlatlon] part (a) above. V.H.F. system in hill areas of Pendiol application (or telephone Vttar Pradesh connections SlJ2. SHRI HAIUSH RAWAT· Will the Ministor of COMMUNICATIONS be 5334. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS pleased to state : Will tbe MlDister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (a) whether tbere IS a proposal to extend the benefit of UHf system to some of the (a) the number of pcndinl applications cities in bill areas of Uttar Pradesh duriog for telephones in Tbiruvalla, CbeDgannur. 1988-89; Mavelikkara, Kayamkulam and Pandalam telephone exchanges; and (b) if 10, tbe names of tbose cities; (c) wbetber Ranikbet is also included in (b) tbe steps taken to clear tbe applica- them; and lioDJ on tbe waitiol list ? (d) if se, tbe time by which lbe work to implement tbe scheme to provide the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND benefit of UHF .Yltem to tbis city will be MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS started ? (SHRI VASANT SATHB) : (a) The number or pending applications as on J st Marc:b, THS MINISTER OF ENeRGY AND J 988 for telephones in Thiruvalla. Cbenpn- MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS Dur. Mavelittara, Kayamkulam aDd (SBlU VASANT SATHE); (a) Yes, Sir. PaadaJam telephone exGbanlCl arc II UDder ; 22J CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Wrlttell Alllwu, 222 Pendln, application, (c) the steps taken by Government to I. rhiruvalla 1053 increase the production of children·s fUms? 2. Chenssnnur 513 THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY 3. Ma velikka ra 473 AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFOR· 4. Kayamkulam 332 MATION AND BROADCASTING (SHill H K.L. BHAGAT) : (a) and (b). Production S. PandaJam 28' of films in India is primarily in the Private Sector. No Government agency maintains (b) The steps take~ to clear the waiting statistics about the number of films pwduced list applications are as under: in tbe country. However, Centra) Board of Film Certification under the Department of 1. Thlruvalla: A 3000 lines ICP ex- Culture maintains statistics relating to certi- changes has been allotted. The exchange ficates issued to feature films and children's equipment is to be supplied during 1989-9.). films for public exhibition. Accordingly. tbe An expansion from 3000 to 4000 lines has number of children's films certified during also been allotted for 1991-92. the years 1985, 1986 and 1987isas follows :- 2. Chengannur: 900 lines expansion has Year No. of No. of Children's been allotted. These are likely to be com- feature Films missioned by the end of 7th Plan period. films In addition, construction of a building has Feature Short started for instaBation o~ a 4000 lines films films MAX·I exchange. The equipment has bean allotted for year 199')-91. 1985 912 11 2 1986 840 3 4 3. Mavellkkara: Equipment for 400 !ines expansion (603 to 1 OC 0 lines) has 1987 P06 3 4 been allotted and is likely to be commission· ed by end of 7tb Plan period. (c). The childrell's Films Society. India. a registered Society. has been set up by the 4. KayamkuJam: 2000 Jines Main Government for promotina chlldren's film exchange hal been allotted for 1990 -91 and movement in the country. In pursuit of further expansion by 1000 lines (20CO-300J this objectIve, the society has been producing lines) has been allotted for 1 ~ 91-9? children films in different languages using formats like puppet films, animation films. feature films and short films. Further, the 5 Pa"dafam: '00 lines exchange ex- Government has exempted all children films. panded by J00 lines (200-300 line'!:) during irrespective of width, certified as such by the 1987,88. Further expansion by another Central Board of Flm Certification, from the 100 lines is likely to be completed in levy excise duty. 1989-90. Transfer of State Sector Power Production of Children's Films Projed to Central Sector ~33~. CH. RAM PRAKASH: Will the S 336. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHO}: Minister of INFORMATION AND BRO- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to ADCASTING be pleased to state: stale: (a) the number of children's films pro- (8) whether some power projects under duced in the country during the years 1985, the State Sector have now been transferred 1986 snd 1987; to the Central Sector; (b) the Dumber of features films pro- {b) if so, the power projects which have duced during the same period; and now been transferred to Central Sector; and 223 MARCH 29, 1988 Wrlll'" A",.. " (c) tbe details thereof! THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) to (c). THE MINISTER OF STA TE IN THE Tbe positioll as on 22.3.1988 is tbat DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THB three Industrial Licence appUcalions MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI for setting up mdustries in district Gorakb- SUSHILA ROHTAGI' : pur, U.P. are at different stages of process- ing It is the constant endeavour of tbe Government to dispose of a11 pending Indus- (a) to (c). The information is being trial Licence applications as expeditiously as collected and wIll be laid on the Table of the possible. To ensure this, procedures have House. been streamll ned. Details of pending pro- posals are however, not dtVulged till tbe l TralU latlon1 Government have taken tinal decision there- on. Tracing-cum-Training Center }n Gorakbpur [English] Workshop on thermal power station 5337. SHRI MADAN PANDEY: Will engineering the minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 5339. SHRI S. B. SIDNAL: Will the TH'E MINISTER OF STATE IN THE {bl if so. what was the main purpose of DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE. this workshop; LOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY t~HR( M ARUNACHALAM): Ca) No, Sir. (c),rhow many delegates attended the worksbop; and (b) and (c). OJ not arise. (d) whetber the recommendations made in tbe workshop have beeD examined by Settiog up of big industries in Government? Gor_kbpur. U.p. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE 5338. SHRI MADAN PANDEY: WIll MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI the Minister of IN DUSTR Y be pleased to SUSHILA ROHTAGJ): (a) to (d) The state: information is beio~ collected and WIll he laid on the Table of (he House. (a) tbe details of the new gas fields (a) sector discovored in Oujarat during the last three whether some public manu- years; facturing units have ShOWD profit dUrilll 1987-88; (b) the Dumber of wells drilled and (b) if so, the details thereof; and names of places where such wells were drilled; (c) the amount of net profit earned by thesepubhc sector units in J987-88? (c) the quantity of gas found from tbese weJls; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRV (d) whether the Oit and Natural Gas (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) to (c). Commissio'l is considering to supply natural Detai1-; of profitability of public sector gas for dome'itic purpo"e~ in the citie~ around undertakin2S durin&! 1987-88 will be tbe gas fields, particularly, when gas i5 being available only after the vear ends on 31 st flared up; March, 1988 and the accounts are finalised thereafter. (e) if so, the details thereof; and «() if not. the reasons therefor? Contracts ba~ged by National Pro- jects Construction Corporation THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND 5242. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFlQUE SINGH: Will the Minister of ENERGY ALAM): (a) to (c). DUring the last 3 be pleased to state : years, gas has been dlc;covered at 'Karjlsan' in Gujarat. The anI) well drtlled fh"lwed (a) the number of contracts bagged by gas @ 38.12'2 M 1/day from the interval the National Projects Construction Corpora- 1336-13 8 metres through 5 mm beam, tion (NPCC) during the last three years; during milia) testing. (b) the total cost involved in these (d) and (e). Commitments of gas for cc,otracts; domestic supply in GUJarat have been made as follows: (c) whether NPCC has carried out tbe contracts itself or given further sub-contracts (i) Surant MunicIpal Corpn. 0.10 to private parties; MMCMD (d) if so, the cost thereof; (ii) Broach town 0 03 MMCMD. (iii) AnkJeshwar town 0 01' MMCMD. (e) the reasons for giving sub-contracts to prtvate parties; and (iv) Baroda MUnicipal Corpn. 0 05 MMCMD ProHI hy PlJblic "ector mltnufacturing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE unib DEPARTMENT ()F POWER IN THB MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI S 341. DR KRUPAStNDHU BHOI : SUSHILA ROHTAGl): (8) and (b). SHRIMA 1 J JAY ANTI Dunng the last three years. the NPCC bagged 60 contracts of the total value of PATNAIK' about Rs. 353.45 crores. Will the MlOister of INDUSTRY be (c) to (f). Most of the works are .pleased 10 state : . carried out by the NPCC • departmentally 127 ",1",. AlI,."" MAIlCH 29. 19.' with its own major equipments and man- (c) bow many new JH)It oftices are power. However, some works such as proposed to be opened in Orissa in die those in areas of specialisation wbich invo'tve above Plan period? use of sophisticated equipment and special technique/skills, works as per agreements with clients and some works of short time THB MINISTER OF ENERGY AND duration involving bigh financial constraints MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS are sublet. The value of such works amoun- (SHRI VASANT SA THE): (a) The ted to Rs. 35.08 crores. which comes to Seventh Plan envisages opening of '000 new about 9.9% of tbe total works bigged. durin. post offices. While the new post offices are, tbe last three years. by and lllrge, branch offices, a small number of departmental lub post offices is also covered io the faraet. Opening of post offices in Orissa 5343. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : (b) The details are given in the statement Will the Minister of COMMUNICA1IONS below. be pleased to state : (c) Up to 1987·88, 15 new post Statement Expansion Programme lor Orissa during the Seventh Plan S. No. Item. Status as on Expansion Proposed Likely Status as .1.4.84 during 7th Plan on 1.4 90 ----- 1. Switcbing Capacity (No. 42C05 26610 68615 of Lines) 2. Working Telephone COD- 34887 23436 58~21 ncctions (Nos.) 3. Telex Capacity (No. of 320 ~'O 8'0 Lines) 4. Telex Connections (Nos.) 248 5S 2 800 s. Long Distance Public 745 800 1545 Telephones (Nos.) 6. Trunk Automatic ExchaDae 2000 2000 Capacity (No. of lioes) 229 CHAlTIlA 9, 1910 (SAKA> Wrlll,. Aniw" THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (d) whether the State Government of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Orissa bas also taken up the matter with NATURAL GAS (SaRI RAFIQUE Union Government; and ALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. GOI and ONGC have signed a contract on 19.2.88 with BHP (e) if so, the progless so far made in Petroleum (India) Inc. for Exploration of this regard ? hydrocarbon in the block KK-OS-VI in Kerala Konkan offshore basin. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) The foreign oil Co. is required to start operations within six (6) months of the (l't) and (c). PST UDtts including MIs sIgning of the contract. Onssa Synthetics Ltd. have been facing marketing constraints for a variety of reasons Establisbment of co-operative sector inc1udlDg bunching of commissioning of a power based industries in number of PSF units. rural areas (d) Yes, Sir. 5348. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: Will the Minister of ENlRGY be pleased (e) In tbe Finance Bill 1988. Excise to state: Duty on Pol},e::.ter Staple Fibre has been reduced by Rs. 10 !Kg. (a) whether Government have been liberally allowmg for estdbllshment of tbe A!lia Palcific T elecommuoicatioDs co-operative sector power ba ~ed industries Development Conference in rural areas of the COU'ltry to meet the demands of tbe rural populatIOn; and 5350. DR. B. L. SHAILESH: Will {b) if so. tbe salient features of tbe said tbe MInister of COM\1UNICATIONS be scheme and when it will be Implemented 1 pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether tbe ASIa Pacific Telecom- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN 1HE munications Development Conference was MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI recently held to the capital; SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). The lOformation is being collected and will be (b) if so, the important decisions taken laid on tbe Table of the House. at tbis Conference sucb as tbe cbange 10 the Telcom status critenon, setting up of rural telephone exchanges and development Loss by Orissa SYDtbetlcs Ltd. of technology; and S349. SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA: (c) the follow·up action beiog taken by Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased the Telecommunications Department? to state: (a) whether the Orissa Synthetics Ltd. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND (OSL) a new grass root unit of IPICOL to MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS. manufacture t ~ 000 tonnes of Polyester (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. Staple Fibre (PSP) wal set up In Minch, The Asia Pacific Telecommunications Deve 1987; lopmcn' Conference of tbe International- CHA1TaA 9, 1~)10 (SAKA) Telecommunication Union, Geneva was held (b) whether Government propose to in the capital at Vigy~m Bbawan from 22 to increase the number of Punjabi fiJms to be 26 February 1988. telecalt during 19 g 8; and (b) The Conference adopted a number (c) if not. the reasons thereof 1 of Recommendations and Resolutions on various aspects of Telecommunications Development in the Region, which inter-alia, THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- hishlighted the following : TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (i) Higher priority to the Telecommuni- (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT): (a) The infor- cations sector in national develop- mation is given below: ment plans; Year No. 01 film, telecast (ii) Increased funding to this sector by international, multilateral and 1985 2 bilateral aid/funding agencies; 1986 2 (iii) Emphasis on improvement of 1987 1 "Teiephone Accessibility" especially in rural areas; tb) and (c). As a matter of policy. Doordar5han has always been keen to give (iv) Progressive digitalization of telecom. equal repre~entatioo to films in different network; more lDvestment on languages in its 1"'ational telecast; however, improvement of out~ide plant and it is subject to availability of films fulfilling cable network; the eligibility criterion. (v) Cooperative approach by developing countries in design, development, With a view to telecasting feature films manufacture and operatlon of JD those regional languages/dialects which telecom. equipment and services, are oot eligible for NatIonal Network, a new and in human resource development chunk has been introduced w.eJ. 11.7.87 ineluGing availing of expertise for telecast of films from Delhi and linked of specialJsed international agencies Transmitters on every 2nd and 4th Saturday like the International T~ lecommuni- of each month. cation Union (lTV), Asia Pacific Telecommunity (APT) etc., wbere Revision in Seventh Plan targets for appropriate. Power and Coal Seetors (c) The decisions of the Conference will 5352. SHRI H. B. PATIL : WiU the be kept in view by the Department of Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state ~ Telecommunications for various actions connected with the development of Indian (a) whether the Seventh Plan targets TelecommUnicatIOn Net\\ork and in inter- for key infrastructure sectors like power and actIOn with telei.:oID. authorities in other coal have been revised downwards; countries of the Region as also with concern- ed international/regional organizations. (b) If so, to what ex.tent: and Telecast of PUDja bi films (c) what further steps Government propose to take in this regard? 53SI. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will the Minister of INFORMA nON AND BROADCASTING be pleased to Hate: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (a) the number of Punjabi films telecast MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI by Doordarshan during the last three years SVSHILA ROHTAG1): (a) According to the Plannins Commission, tbe Vtb plaQ CDdiD& 31 ~cmbcr. 1987. )'car-wise; 23$ ff'"" •• Nl,rW." MAaCH 29, I,.S targels for power and coal sectors have not Deviatio.a III seript or fHaa been revised downwards. •• La Nult Beapll" (b) and (c). Do not arise in view of tbe 5354. SHRI SANAT KUMAR above. MANDAL: Will the Minister of INFOR- MATION AND BROADCASTING be Guidelines for Technical know-bow and pleased to state : Foreign Collaborations (a) whether some deviations in the 5)S3. SHRIMATI PATEL RAM-'BEN script of the French film "La Nuit Bengali" RAMJIBHAI MA V ANI : Will the Minister have been brought to the notice of Govern- of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: ment; (a) tbe guidelines for granting tbe per- (b) if so, the reaction of Government mission to avail technical know-how from thereto; and abroad and foreign collaborations; and (b) the delailed procedure for availing (c) tbe action taken to resolve the foreign collaborations '1 matters? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTR Y (SHRl J. VENGAlA RAO): (a) and (b). THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- Government bas laid down tbe Foreign MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER Collaboration gUldelmes which are based on OF INFORMA1ION AND BROADCAST- national priorities. Import of technical know- ING (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT..): (a) to how is permitted in sophisticated and high (c). Fllm·makIng belDg a creative activity. priority areas, in export oriented or import some minor changes are permitted to be substitution manufacturing or for enabling made in the script at the time of shooting, indigenous industry to upJate exiiting tecbno- The Producer/Director of the film "La Nuit logy in India to meet efficiently domestic Bengali" also made some deviations in the requirements and or to become competitive script wlthm tbe permiSSible limits. The in the export market. Foreign collaboration final film, before It5 release, is however approvals cover financial or tecbnical colla- subject to clearance by our Emba~sy. If borations or a combination of both. anything objectionable is found in the film. the same can be got deleted at that stage. Technology selection is primarily left to the Indian Eotrepreueurs!Parties, who after exploring the alternative sources of tecbno- Establishment of Film Academy logy and tecbno -economic analysis select tbe one that suits tbem tbe best. Thereafter, 5355. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will tbey apply for Government's approval in the the Minister of INFORMATION AND prescribed form and sucb an application. BROADCASTING be pleased to state: when received. is examined in consultation with the authorities concerned including tbe relevant administrative ministry and Tecbnical (a) whether Government intend to take Evaluation Committee wbich is chaired by steps to establish a Film Academy; and Secretary and DG\TD) and bas members from Department of Science and Technology, (b) if so, the details thereof? Council of Scientific and Industrial Research and National Researcb and Development Corporation etc. After the detailed sccutiny THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- by tbis high level technical committee, the MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER proposals are placed before tbe Approval OF INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- Bodies like Poreign Investment Bo ard, ING (SHRI H, K. L. BHAGAT): No Project Approval Board, Special Approval sucb proposal is under consideration. Commit&ee for Non-Resident Indians, etc. for a dccssioD. (b) 1)ocs not arise. 2'7 CHAITRA 9. t9tl (lAttA) 23' Postllll of T.V. reportlpg tea_ at THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY State Capitals (SHRI J. VENGAlA RAO): (a) Whenever export obligations are imposed, the compani- 5156. SHRt SYED SHAHABUDDIN : es have to execute a bond with Government Will tbe Minister of INFORMATION AND as a safeguard against the non-fulfilment of BROADCASTING be pleased to state: export obligation. The bond is forfeited and penal action is initiated if tbey fail to dis- (a) wbether Doordarshan has TV report- cbarge tbe export obligation. ing teams in every State/Union TerritolY Capital; (b) The Chief Controller of Imports and Exports are required to enforce and (b) if so, the particulars of tbe staff monitor export obligations. No centralillled posted at the State capitals by Doordarshan information is available in Secretariat for for TV coverage; and Industrial Approvals in the Ministry of (c) the minimum size of a viable TV Industry. reporting team? (c) Tbe penalties for non-fulfilment of THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- export obligation imposed against the foreign MENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER collaboration approvals are as under: OF INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- ING (SHRI H K L. BHAGAT) : (a) No, (i) Handing over goods produced by Sir. the firm to MMTC/STC/PEC or any otber agency nominated by (b) There are twelve news units of Government for export; Doordarshan ea~h of which is manned by profe'lsional news staff. The work as compo- (ii) recovery of liquidated damage @ site functional team, where staff members S per cent of annual export obli- function according to the requirements in- gation subject to a maximum of cluding reporting assignments. Rs. 5 lakhs. (c) A lV reporting team normally consists of a correspondent, recordist/Engi- Concession to Agra-based neering ASSistant, cameraman and Lightmg Paper Jndostry A c;sistant/Helper. S~58 SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : Export Commitment by .Foreign SHRI NARSINGH Collaborated Com ponies SURYAV ANSI : 5357. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: Will tbe MlOister of INDUSTRY t-e Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pl~ased pleased to state : to state: (a) the steps proposed to be taken to (a) tbe number of agro-based paper ensure tbat foreign collaborated compames mitIs in India. State·wise: adhere to their eAport commitment; (b) the number of companIes which (b) whether it is a fact that tbe agro- have given export commitment when seeking based paper mills supply 25 per cent of tbe foreign collaboration. the value of export demand for paper at persent: guaranteed and the actual exports executt-d and (c) whether it is also 8 f.let tbat the Indian Agro Paper Mills Association has (c) the action being taken against submitted a memorandum to Gavemment for companies not complying with -export facllitie'i and concessions in order to promote commitments? the agro-based paper industry: and MARCH 29. t 918 ""'"'" "", 240 (dl the response of Government to the (v) Flexibility bas been allowed to tbe suggestions and demands made in the Industry to manufacture all varie- memorandum? ties of paper and paper grade pulp including paper board/straw board THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TUE within the overall licensed capacity. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVB- LOPMENT IN THB MINISTRY OF IN- (vi) Requirement of Industrial licence DUSTR.Y (SURI M. ARUNACHALAM): has been dispensed within the case of manufacture of writing, printing and wrapping paper from (a) There are, at present, about 60 units which are engaged in the manufacture agricultural residues, wastes and bagasse. of paper aDd paperboard based mainly on agricultural residues, wastes and bagasse. (vii) Restriction!! on export of paper Most of these mills are located in Uttar have been removed, Pradesh, Mabarashtra and Andbra Pradesb. (viii) A reduction in the rate of excise (b) These mills produce approximately duty on paper and paperboard 25 per cent of the total production of paper manufactured by small paper mills and paperboard in the country at present. having production upto 24,000 tonnes per annum, by Rs. tOO/- (c) Yes, Sir. per tonne from the existing rates, for each of the existing slabs. has (d) The suggestions made by the Asso- been announced in the recent ciation would be kept in view While formula- Budget. ting policies and programmes for the development of the industry from tIme to time. Various rehefs and concessions bave OpE'ning of Complaint Cell by IOC been extended to enable the paper IDdustry in generai to improve its eapaCIty utilisatIon 5359. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD and financial vldbility. Among them tbe SINGH: Will the Mimster of PETRO- following reliefs and concessIons are expected LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to directly benefit the small paper mills in- to state: cluding those mainly based on agricultural residues, wastes and bagasse: (a) whether It is a fact that the Indian Oil Corporation has opened a complaint cell (i) Import of pulp and waste paper for redressel of grievances of the LPG have been placed on OGL. Import domestic consumers; of pulp is allowed free of customs levies. (b) If so, the number of complaints made to tbis cell ull date and what action (ii) Manufacture of Writing, printing has been taken thereon; and kraft paper containing not less (c) whether it is also a fact tbat thiS than 75 per cent by weight of pulp complaint cell is very inactive to redress made from bagasse is exempted the grievances of the LPG domestic consu- from payment of excise duty. mers; and (iii) Paper and paperboard manufactur- (b) if so. what steps Government ed by small paper mills out of propose to take further for redressal of the pulp. containing I'ot less than 50 grievances of the LPG domestic consumers per cent by weight, made from to ensure tImely ~upply of LPG refills and other non-conventional materials also for supplYlDg refills With proper seals 1 are charged excise duty at conces- sio"al rates. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (iv) The facility of payment of excise GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE ALAM): la) duty on incremental basis for Customer Service Cells ex.clusively for LPG successive slabs bas been extended cODsU~et s bave been opened by the Indian to small paper mms from 1 4.1986. Oil Corporation at 30 Indaoe Area Offices, CHAITRA ,. 1'10 (SAU) W,ltten AutH" 242 tb) and (c). During the perlod from on to the concerned Government aDder- April 1,1987 to January 31, 1988,a total takings have gone up several times u number of 2 t 14S complaints bave been compared to royalty percentage increase; received by the Customer Service Cells. Eaeb complaint is investigated and appro- (d) whether Government are considerina priate action is taken to redress tbe grievan- any differentiation between the supply of ces of LPG consumers; and gas from tbe main source supply line and (d) Efforts are being made to maximise from isolated value supply; LPG production in the refineries and also augment supplies through imports to tbe (e) whether Government have fixed any extent feasible, in addition to augmenting Dorms (or supply of gas to infrastructure LPG bottling capacity. PVC/Aluminium industries and commodity produciog indus- seaJs have been introduced at an the bottHng tries; and plants to ensure proper sealing of filled cylinders. The situation is being closely (0 if so, the details thereof? monitored by tbe oil industry with a view to ensurlOg regular LPG supplies to the consumers. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Opening of Post Offices aDd Telegraph NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAFIQUE Offices in Gujarat ALAM) : (a) The difference between tbe base price for oil paid to producinl campa- 5360. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN nies and the selling price to refineries comilll RAMJIBHAI MA VANl: Will the MlOister only of royalty, cess and applicable Sales of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state Tax. the number of Post Offices and 1 elegraph Offices opened in GUJarat during the last (b) All petroleum products are derived three years? from crude oil and oil companies are allowed a return of 12 per cent post tax on net THE MIN(STER OF ENERGY AND worth only_ MINISTER OF COM\1.UNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): One Post (c) The rate of royalty was Rs. 7.S0 Office and 197 telegraph offices have been per MT OD 31. t 2. t 967 and Rs. 192 per opened in Gujarat Circle during three years MT on 31.12.1987. The increase in royalty ending '31.3.1987. during tbis period is more than 25 times but the return to oil companies as indicated at Prices of Crude Oil (b) above is on a normative basis and is Dot relatable either to the price of crude oil or to 5361. SHRIMATIl'ATEL RAMABEN the rate of royalty. RAMJIBHAI MAVA"}: Will the MlOister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAl. GAS be pleased to state : (d) to (0. W.ef 31.1.1987. the price for onshore and offshore gas at landfall point was fixed at Rs. 1400/1000 MI wbile for (a) the difference be\ween the 011 well the North-East it was fixed at Rs. 1000/ head pnce of crude 011 and the selling 1000 M3 with a provision for discOUDt upto pnce to rel1nene~ and how It IS determined; Rs. SOO/1000 MS. The price of ps a)oDI the HBJ pipeline bas been fixed at Rs. 22so1 (b) the on-hoe products and by-products 1000 MS. These are exclusive of royalty. produced from crude oil and the total taxes etc.. and will be in force tnl lDCome and profit derived from It; 31.3.1989. A rebate of J Sex, will be liven to consumers to whom gaa is sold on a fall· (c) whether durio8 the last twenty years, back basis. Concession a) price may also be the royalty OD crude oil has increased oy applicable to consumers getting gas from three times While total earninp out of crude fields u"lder development. 244 24' ""1,,.. MstHr, MARCH 29. 1-988 """.. ~" )7Wr"datioIl1 Ratio of Hyde' and Thermal Power Shifting of Drfllfag Rigs In Assam Geoeration 10 Eastern Relloo 5362. SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD 5363. PROP. PARAG CHAlIHA: Will the Minaster of ENERGY be pleased to Will tbe Minister of PETROLEUM AND state: NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : Hydro Th~rmal 5364. SHRIMATI MADHUREE (% Share) 'ncludiug SINGH· WIll the MInIster of INDUSTRY Nuclear be pleased to etate : (% Share) Northern 39.1 60.9 (a) wbether a letter of mtent was Issued Western 13 1 8~ 9 for seumg up a Process Control Instruments Plant to Bihar State ElectroDics Development Southern 58.5 41 S Corpora lion; Eastern 14.5 8 S S North-Eastern 390 61.0 (b) whether a Memorandum of Under- standing was Signed With the Instrumentation Ltd , KOla as Jomt promoter With Bihar State (b) The major reason for uneven ratio ElectrOnics Development CorporatIon; of hydro power development IS that the potential for such development varies from • region to region Different regions ha ve (c) whether the Instrumentation Ltd, different resource endowments. The feaSibI- Kota have now shown loa blhty to go ahead lity of development of the hydro potential With the proJect; and depends on variouc; technical and economiC (d) If so, the present status of the pro- factors apart from the pohcies aod pnontJes Ject and tbe ~teps UDion Government pro- of tbe Government from time to time. pose to expedite the seUmg t'P of the plant? (c) To Improve the ratio of hydro rHE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY power development several new hydol (SHRI l. VENGAlA RAO) : (a) The Bihar IChemes ~re bemg taken up for (:OnstruclJon State ElectroDlcs Development Corporation in tbe Central and State Sectors External was granted a Letter of Intent in January, assistance JS also proposed to be avaJled of T 983 for e.tabJJsbioS tacdjtJOS tor manufac- for bydel development. ture of various process control instruments. cilAl1'RA 9, t 910 (SAKA) The Letter of Intent lapsed in January, Publicity of Blo-Mus Valu 1984. S 366. SHRI P. PENCHALLIAH: Will (b) The Bibar State Electronics Develop- the Minister of ENERGY be p1cued to ment entered lOto a Memorandum of Under- state : standing witb Instrumentation Ltd., Kota in May in. 1982 for setting up of a joint International Mining Machinery (d) wbether some collaboration and joint [English 1 venture negotiations were held and if so, their number and nature? SHRI M. S. GILL (Ludhiana): The farmers of Punjab and Haryana are being THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE looted. There is a firm of the name of Nilan DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE Chemicals and Fertilizers Ltd. near Ambala. MINISTRY OF ENERGY ISHRI C K Tbey are selhng sheer dust in the name of JAFFER SHARIEF): (a) Yes. SIr. The di·ammonia phosphate and whereas tbe ratio Second International Mining Machmery of phosphorus should be 46 per cent. Exhibition (IMMB'S8) was held in Calcutta it is only '.2 per cent and wbcreas from 9-14 February, t 988. nitrogen should be 1 8 per cent, it is only 2.' per cent. (b) 70 Indian and 60 overseas compa. nies from 12 countries participated in tbe [Traa.tlal ;011) exhibition. (c) and (d). Enquiries worth about Rs. MR. SP)3AKER: Shri Mewa Singh. 2S crorea were received by the participants. please give it fD writinl. } will wlite to the Ten colJaborations/joint venture negotiations Ministry of Agriculture, Ministry of Ho_ tnatcriaUsed. Affairs aDd also to Mr. Governor. 241 ,. ",I'''iI Aluwers PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: Shankaracharya of Puri is not above law. And set tbem punished. MR. SPEAKER: He is not. SHRI M. S. GILL: People say that there is tbe blessing of the Minister_ PROF. MADHU DANDA VATE : But (/1II.".tlon,) he has challenged the Supreme Court _. (lnter,uptlons) • (T,..,.rIatlon) MR. SPEAKER: Law would tak.e its MR. SPEAKER: Don't worry. Give it own course in writing, I will get it investigated. (English] SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji): Many Members have given notices of calhng SHltI M. S. GILL: O.K., we will give attention On drug abuses going on in the it .• (Interruptions). country ... PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Raja- pur) : I bave one request to you; please [Translation] take it very seriously. On 25th of March, Supreme Court has dehvered a judgement me MR. SPEAKER; We have done It astina Sbtmkaracbarya of Pun not to have earher also. We will again do it. It wIll a fenction to glorify sart system. He has take time. publicly cballeoged the Women's organiza- tions and said: ·'1 shall go ahead." [Engli.sh] [Tranl.,ton) We are running short of time; we will MR. SPEAKaR : Prof. Sahib, the tbing do it. fa tbat SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK : We have [Eirglt,h) got laws passed by the House JD thIS country. We have to dISCUSS it thoroughly The law wiIJ take its own cour~e. and the role of parents is a]so there. (InterruptIOns). [Tranl/ation] What you and I have to do with it ? You can also get it done, I can also let it dODe. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI (Ghosi): Mr. Speaker, Sir, about I.T.I. Allahabad (Hngll,h) the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh .... PIlOF. MADHU DANDAVATB: At (Interruptions)· * least make some observations on this. The law passed by this House is being challenged (English] by the Sbankarachar} a of Pori and he said : "Whatever Supreme Ceurt may say, I am (Interruptlon,). DOt loiDg to abide by that" ... MR. SPEAKER = Not allowed; nothmg I think, the Home Minister must take care doing.. no question. State wi11 do it. of tbat. MR. SPEAKER: He is also under law. Be is Dot above law; an,body iD this country it DOl above law. * *Not recorded. 249 Pap'''' Laid CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Paper' [AId 250 11.00 hr•. (2) Two statements (Hindi and Bnalish versions) showing reasons for delay PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE in laying tbe papers mentioned at (I) above. [Englj,h] [Placed in Library. See No. LT-Slll and Statement ,.. : Review on and Annual Report of S812/881 Lagan Jute Machinery Co. Ltd, Calcutta (or 1986-87, Andrew Yule and Co. Ltd., Calcutta (3) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi for 1986·87. Statements r~: delay in laying and Bnglish versions) of tbe these papers and Anoual Report aDd Review Petrofils Co-operative Limited. for on Petrofils Co-operative Ltd. for 1986.87. the year J986· 87 aJong with Audit- Report of CAG o( India for 1986-Union ed Accounts. Government (Commercial)-Part VIII and for 1987-Uoion Government (CommerciaJ)- (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and Part I Bnglish versions) by the Government on the working of the Petrofils THE MINISTER OF INDUSTR Y Cooperative Limited, for tbe year 1986-87. (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO) : I beg to Jay on the Table- [Placed in Library. See No. LT-S813/88] (1) A copy each of the following papers (Hindi and English versions) under sub- Report of tbe CAG of India for 1986 - UnlOil section (I) of section 619A of the Government (Commercial) -Put VIII aad Companies Act, 1956 : for 1987 Union Government (Commercial)- Part I (a) (i) A statement regarding Review by the Government on the work- ( 1) A copy each of the following Reports ing of tbe Lagan Jute Machinery (Hindi and English versions) under Company Limited, Calcutta. for article, 15) (1) of the Constitution: the year 1986-87. (i) Report of the Comptroller and (ii) Annual Report of the Lagan Auditor General of India for the Jute Machinery Company Limit- year 1986-Union Government ed. Calcutta. for the year 1986- (Commercial)-Part VIII-Audit 87 along with Audited Accounts Observations on Individual topics. and the comments of the Compt- roller and Auditor General (Placed in Library. See No. LT-SI14/881 thereon. (ii) Report of tbe Comptroller and (Placed in Library. See No. LT-58J 1/88] Auditor General of India for the year 1987-Union Government (Com- (b) (i) A statement regarding Review mercial)-Part-I-Introduction. by tbe Government on the work- ing of tbe Andrew Yule and (Placed in Library. s,. No. LT-SSl5/181 Company Limited. Calcutta, for the year 1986-87. Notifications under Indian Telegraph Ad, Review on aod Aonual Report of Videsla (it) Annual Report of tbe Andrew Saacbar Nigam Ltd. Bombay for 1987-11 Yule and Company Limited. and Statement ,.e: rejectioD of Award by BoanI Calcutta, for the year 1986-8 7 of Arbitration for Central Go'el'lUlat along with Audited Accounts employees regarding reduetiOll of workiJII and tbe comments of the hour. of operative ofticen of P&T Deptt. ComptroUer and Auditor General thereon. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND [Placod in Library. S,e No. LT .. S812/S81 MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS 251 Pa~" Laid MARCH 29. 1988 (SHRI VASANT SATHE) I beg to Jay on tion of the working hours of the the Table- Operative Officers of the P & T Depart. mente (1) A copy each of the followmg Notifica- [Placed in Library. See No. LT.S819j88) tions (Hindi aod English versions) under sub-section (5) of section 7 of the Indian [Tran.tlation) Telegraph Act, 1985 : (i) The Indian Telegraph (Sixth Amend- Detailed Demand, for ,rants of the ment) Rules, 1987 publisbed in Mimltr), of ,Azrzculture lor 1988-89 Notification No G S R. 989 E) in Gazette of IndIa datcd the 17th THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE December. 1" 87. (SHRI BHAJAN LAL) : Mr. Speaker, SIr, I beg to lay on the 1 able a copy of the (il) The Indian Telegraph (Amendmcnt) Detailed Demands for Grants (Hindi and Rules, 1988, published to Notifica- English versions) of the MIDlstry of Agn- hon No. G.S.R. 33i(E) in Gazette culture for 1988-89. of India dated the 11 th March, 1988. [Placed 1D Library . •*)ee No. LT·'820j88] (Iii) The Indian Post Office (Seventh MR. SPEAKER: Have you beard about Amendment) Rules, 1988 pubhshed fertlhzer ? Please get It investIgated. in Notification No. G.S R. 34 (E) in Gazette of IndIa dated the 15th SHRI BHAJAN LAL: Mr. Speaker. March. 1988. SIC, they had mentioned that they have some [Placed in Library. See No. LT-SS16/88] packets of the fertilizer. I request tht Hon. Member to send them to me, so that I may (2) A COpy each of the followmg papers get the matter IOvestlgated and I will send {Hindi and Eng1i&h versions) under sub- you complete enquuy-report wlthm one section (l) of sectIOn 619A of the week and the Government Will take actloD Companies Act, 1956 ; agalDst the defaulter, whosoever he may be. (i) Review by tbe Government on the SHRI M. S. GILL (Ludh,ana): Thank worklDg of the VJde~h Sanchar you very much. Nilam Limited, Bombay, for the year 1986-87. Detailed Demands for Grants of tbe Ministry (ij) Annua) Report of the Vldesh of Parliamentary Affairs for 1988.89 San char Nigam Limited, Bombay, for the year 1986-8 7 along with [English] Audited Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTAR Y AFFAIRS AND MINISTER [Placed in Library. See No. LT-S817/88} OF INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- 1NG (SHRI H K. L. BHAGAT) :' I beg (3) A copy of the Detailed Demands for to lay on the Table a copy of the Detailed Grants (Hindi -and Enghsh versions) of Demands for Grants (Hindi and English the MlOistry of Energy for 1988-89. venions) of the Ministry of Parliamentary [Placed!n LIbrary. S~e No. LT-S818/88] Affairs for 1988-89. {Placed in LIbrary, See No. LT-S821!88j (4) A statement (Hindi and English versions) regarding rejection of the Award given Notification regarding Central GoverDment by tbe Board of Arbitration under the Market Loans Joint Consultative Machinery and Compulsory Arbitration for the Central THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Government Employees reaardinl reduc- DBPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS 25. CHAITRA 9, 1918'(SAKA) POp" Laid IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI over of management or Messrs India EDUARDO FALEIRO) : I beg to lay on Macbinery Company Limited, Howrah, the Table a copy of the Notification No. beyond five years, under sub-section F. 4 (S)-W &. M/S7 (Hindi and English (2) of section 18A of the Industries versions) dated the 22nd March, 1988 (Development and Regulation) Act, regardiog Central Government Market 1951. Loans, (2) A copy of Notification No SO. [Placed in Library, See No. LT-5822/89] 270 (E) (Hindi and English vt'rsions) Report of tbe CAG of India for tbe year published in Gazette of India dated ending 31.3.87 -Union Government (Posts the 18th March, 1988 making and Telecommunications), Union Government certain amendments to Notifi- Appropriation Accounts (Postal Services) cation No S.O. 98 (E) dated the for 1986-68, etc. 16th February, 1973 so as to add and delete certain item'> reserved for production in the small scale SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: I beg under sub-section (2H) of section also to lay on the Table: 29B of the Industries (Development (1) A copy of the Report (HlDdi and and Regulation) Act, 1951. EnglIsh versions) of the Comptroller (Placed in Library. See No. LT 5823/881 and Auditor General of India for the year ended the 31st MaTch, ('~) A copy each of the following Noti- 1987- Union Government (Posts fication" (Hindi and English versions) and Telecomunications). under under section 396 of the Companies article I 5 J (1) of the Constitution Act, 1956 : (2) A copy of the Union Government (i) The Ch01an Engineering Corpo- Appropriation Accounts (Postal ration Limited (Amalgamation) Services) for the year ' 986-87 Order. 1986 published in Noti- (Hindi and Engiish versions). fication No SO. 3098 in Gazette of India dated the 13th Septem- (3) A CODY of the Union Government ber, 1986. Appropnation Accounts (Telecom- munication ServIces) for the year (ii) The Madurai Pandiyan Engineer- 1985-87 (Hmdi and English ing Corporation Limited (Amal- versions). gamatian) Ordor, t 987 published in NotIfication No. S.O. 1037(E) [Placed in Library. See No. LT-S828/88] in Gazette of India dated the 7th December, J 91 7. Notifications under Industries (Development [Placed ID Llbran See No. LT-S824/88] and Regulation) Act, under Companies Act, statemeot and review on and Annual Report (4) A copy each of the following Notifi- of National Small Indu~tries Corporation cations (Hindi and En~lish versions) Ltd; New Delbi, for 1986-87 of Indian under section 620A of the Companies Plywood Industries Research Institute, Act 1956: Bangalore, for 1986 87 and re: deJa) in laying the last two papt"rs til G S. ~. 353 published in Gazette THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY of India dated the 9th May, (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): On behalf I 987 declaring Messrs The of SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM. I beg to Fund of Thanjavur Limited, to Jay on the Table: be a 'Nidhi'. (1) A copy of Notification No. SO. \ Ii) G S R ~ 6 ~ published in Gazette 1009 (E) (Hindi and English ver- of India dated the 16th May. sions) published in Gazelle of India t 987 declaring Messrs Jawabar dated the 2()th November, 1987 Nagar Nidhi (Madras) Limited to regarding extension of period of take be a 'Nidbi". MARCH 29. 1981 (iii) O.S.1l. 430 published in Gazette tbe Government on tbe workin. of India dated tbe 6th June, of the Indian Plywood Industries 1987 declaring Messrs Sbenoy Research Institute. BangaJore, Nagar Saswatba Nidhi Limited for the year 1986-87. to be a 'Njdhi'. (?) A statement (Hindi and English (iv) G.S.R. 597 publisbed in Gazette versions) showing reasons for delay of India dated the 8th August. in laying the papers mentioned at (6); 1987 dedaring Sabu Investment above. Mutual Benefit Company limited. to be a cNidhi·. [Placed in Ubl ary. See No. L T .S 827/88] (v) G.S.R. 598 published in Gazette of India dated the 8th August. 1987 declaring tbe Annanagar Benefit Fund Limited to be a 1203 brs. 'Nidhi·. (vi) G.S.R. 921 publisbed in Gazette MESSAGES FROM RAJY A SABRA of lodia dated the 12th Decem- ber, 1987 declaring Messrs [EngIi8h] Kayanat Permanent Fund Limited to be a 'Nidhl'. SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I bave to report tbe following messages received (vii) O.S.R. 922 published in Gazette from the Secretary-General of Rajya of India dated the 12th Decem- Sabha : ber, t 98 7 declaring Messrs Plravom Funds Limited to be a 'Nldhi', (i) • 'In accordance with the provisions of sub-rule (6) of rule 186 of the [Placed in Library. See No. LT-S825!881 Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the Rajya Sabha, I am (5) A copy each of the following papers directed to return herewith the (Hindi and Bnglish versions) under Punjab Appropriation (Vote on lub section (1) of section 6 19A of Account) Bill 1988. wbich was the Companies Act. J 9SC : passed by tbe Lok Sabha at its sitting (i) A statement regarding Review held on the 24th March. 1988. and by the Government on the work- tranc;mitted to tbe Rajya Sabba ing of the National Sman Indus- for its recommendations and to tries Corporation Limited, New state that this House bas no recom- Delhi, for tbe year \ 986 -8 7. mendations to make to the Lok (il) Annual Report of the National Sabha in regard to the said Bill •• Small InduStiles Corporation Limited, New Delhi, for the year (ii) "In accordance with tbe provisions 1986-~7 along with Audited of sub· rule (6) of rule 186 of the Accounts and the comments of R utes of Procedure and Conduct of tbe ComptrolJer and Audhor Business io the Rajya Sabha, I am General tbereon. directed to return herewith the Punjab Appropriatron Bill, t 988, (Placed in Library. See No. LT-S826!881 which was passed by the Lolc Sabba (6) (i) A copy of the Annua) Report at its sitting held on the 24th (Hindi and English versions) of March. 1988, and transmitted to the Indian PI)wood Industries the Rajya Sabha for its recommen- Research Institute, Bangalore, dations and to state tbat thIS House for the year 1986-87 along with has no recommendatioDa to make Audited Accounts. to the Lok Sabha in regard to the said Bm." (ii) A statement (Hindi and English versions) regllrdins review by P.A.C. R~po,tl CHAITRA 9,19tO (SAKA) Statement Correctl", 258 An.we, to Queltlo. 12.031 brs. (6) Hundred and Fifteenth Report on LOIs of revenue du~ to non-revision COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEMBES of ron tab on Action taken on 21st BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS Report (8tb Lok Sabha). Fiftieth Report [Engl/.rhJ COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SHRI M. THAMBI DURAl (Oharma- UNDERT AKJNG puri): I beg to present the Fiftieth Report Thirty-eighth Report (Hindi and English versions)' of tbe Commiuee on Private Memben' Bills and [English] ~esolutioni. SHRT VAKKOM PURUSHOTHAMAN (Alleppey): I beg to present the Thirty- 12.04 brs. eighth Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Co;:nmittee on Public Undertakings on PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE Aetion Taken by Government 00 the recom- mendations contained in their Twenty-ninth [English] Report on Indian Drug! aDd Pharmaceuticals Limited. Hundred and r. t h to Hundred and Fifteenth Reports SHRI AMAL DATTA (Harbour 12.05 brs. Diamond): I beg to present the following Reports (Hmdi and E[lghsh versions) of the STATEMENT CORRECTING ANSWEIl Public Accounts Committee : TO S. Q. NO. 1'7 DATED 1.1.1981 RE. PROVISION OF TELEX (1) Hundred and Tenth Report on FACILITIES FOR BLOCK Umon Excise Duties-Fraudulent HEAD QUARTERS. Procurement of Central Excise stamps by match factories. [English] (2) HIJnJred and Fourteenth Report on THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND E~tra expend'ture due to delay in MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS development of an equIpment. (SHRT VASANT SA THE): In reply to (3) Hlll1dred and E'eventh Report on Lok Sabha starred Question No. 117 replied Customs Rec'!lpts-ShJrt levy due to on 1.3.88 regarding provision of Telex facil- mk:IJ<;5Ificatlon - W""lollen Waste or ities for block Head Quarters the minimum Wool on Action taken on 55th number of Telex demands for opening Report (Rth Lok Sahha). a telex exchange was given as 6 instead of '4' which was a typographical error. (4) Hundred and Twelfth Report on ExcessIve procurement of cameras- "As investigatIon had to be made to Inadequate utlll"atlon on Action find out how the typographical error taken on 74th Report (8th lok has happened between the draft reply Sabba). and the final reply. there has been some delay with reference to the «) Hundred and Tblrteenth Report on prescribed limit, which is regretted:' Union Excise Duties-Non-levy of duty on product .. captlve)y consumed The inconvenience caused is very much -Cellulose Xanthate on Action regretted. taken on 77th Report (8th Lok Sabba). 259 Motter' Unde, Rule.'" MARCH 2'•• '88 Malin' Un.' Rule·]" 260 J2.0S1brs. ODe takes vegetarian food and if be is pro· vided with correct information about its MATTERS UNDER RULE 3V7 nutritious values. Mainly people become victim of malnutrition because tbey do not [Translation] know about tbe amount of deficiency of protein. vitamin and iodine in their meals. (I) Demand for financial assistance to In my constituency-Aligarb, most of the Madbya Pradesh Go'Veroment for people working in cottage industries are improving gas leak affected areas suffering from the diseases viz. eyes, bones In Bbopal. and diabetes. Malnutrition is the root cause of these diseases. I request the Ministry of SHRI K. N. PRADHAN (Bhopal): Health to propagate the advantages and Mr. Speaker, Sir, residents of Bnopal are qualities of vegetarian food on Doordarsban still affected by gas and becoming victims of and AIR so that the people may remain new diseases. Not only the cases of T.B., cautious and protect themselves from various Cancer and beart diseases are increasing, but di~eases. people are also dying of them. Due to scanty rain-fall, the wlter level (iii) Steps for upliftment of tbe Bldl of tbe small and tbe big pond there has workers dropped considerably and filtb has increased to dangerous proportion. Instead of remov- ing the same, it is increasing unabatedly. SHRI NANDLAL CHOUDHARY On the one hand, the work of shifting the (Sagar) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the people residing near the banks of ponds IS pI ght of millions of bidi workers is verv being neglected and on the other hand, miserable. They ar~ badly exploited. They people are being allowed to settle there and are paid less wages than the fixed rates. in this manner habitation is increasing These unfortunate bidi workers, living below there. the poverty line, are falling victims to serious diseases caused by tbe harmful effects of At present, the small pond totally and tobacco and malnutntion. The bidi workers the big pond to a great extent have become have to work day and night along with their septic tanks and stench has started emitting families inclUding ~mall children. They are from them. not given the benefits of provident fund, gratuity, maternity benefits and other faCili- If the Central Government will not J!lve ties which are obligatory and provided under financial help to tbe State Government the Bidl and Cigar Workers (Condition of urgently for maklDg the environment healthy Employment) Act. There are crores of in the gas affected areas, for cleaning the rupees accumulated in the Bidi workers ponds and for implementatien of schemes to Welfare Fund established by the Central prevent filth falling in the tank then an Government which )s raistd in the form epidemic can spread there any time and the of levy of excise on bldi. It is very life of mor~ than 10 lakb people will be 10 essential that schemes for opening more danger. hospitals, pruv.d ng residential accommoda- tion, sellmg up entertalOment centers and 12.07 brs. community centres for the bidi workers and for granting speCial scholarship for higber education of their children should be (MR DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] implemented and financed from this fund. I storngly demand tbat every bidl worker (ill Demand for disseminating. especially should be insured for atleast Rs. 5000 and oyer the AIR and Doordarsban the the premium should be paid from the Bidl benefits of eating vegetarian foods. Workers Welfare Fund so tbat bidi worker., may lead the life free from anxiety and may SHRIMATI USHA RA.NI TOMAR not remain worried about their dark future. (Aligarh): Mr. Deputy Speaker, ,Sir. one Keeping in view the price rise. rate of wages caD save himself from varioQS diseases if for bidi workers shoyld also be enhanced. ~6t Mall~'3 tinder /(uJ.-371 CHAITRA 9, 19JO (SAltA) Malt~r. Untkr R.ule-371 26i (iv) Step. to meet water scarcity ID (D.D.A.). Earlier there was no such condi- KbaDdwa (Madbya Pradesb) tion, for getting a water connection. Already ~ 0 per cent of residents have been provided SHRI KALICHARAN SAKARGAYEN water connection on a payment of Rs.4.S0 (Khandwa): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, the only without producing no objection cert'fi- level of underground water in District cate. So. I request the Government that it Khandwa of Madhya Pradesh is steadily going should direct tbe D.D.A. not to compel tbe down for the last five years. There has been people seeking water connection to furnisb scanty rain for the last few years in this no objection certificate and to provide tbem district. In a few parts of this district, water connection at tbe minimum fce of Rs. drought condition has been prevailing for the 4 SC/-. So tbat these poor people may get last three years or more. The rivulets which clean drinking water. unsually had the water flow even in March become dry in the month of December The (vi) Sbort and long term measures to water level in the walls, which were the main check Hoods in Bihar. source for small irrigation and drinking water, has gone down and in most of the wells water bas dried up completely. In most [English] of the tubewells which were installed by the Government for supp~y of drinking water.. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN (Kishall" enough water is not available io them and ganj): Bihar faced unprecedented floods in as a result, there is a serious crisis of drink- 1987-unprecedented in intensity and in ing water for human beings as well as cattle. extent of damage to life and property. But If ground water level is not raised to the the damage was underassessed and tbe earlier level, a serious famine condition may administrative response and the relief develop in tbis district. and rebabilitation programmes bave been IDadequate; limited resources were provided Therefore, I request to the Central and limited areas covered. Free ration was Government to start work immediately on limited to one week and that too did not warfootmg through technological miSSIon and reach Ihe distant villages at all or reacbed other modern devIces to solve this problem them very late. No grant for repair or reco- of water crisis and implement only such nstruction of bouses has yet been provided. schemes with which level of underground Ex gratia payment in respect of loss of life water could be raised. is yet to be paid in many cases. The infra- structure particularly roads and bigbways, (v) Provision of "ater connections to culverts and bridges are yet to be rebuilt. residents of Maogolpuri, SuUanpuri, Agriculture credit, distributed througb pri- Nangloi and otber J. J. Colonies of mary cooperatives with great fanfare bas Delhi at a minimum fee. been thoroughly mismanaged. Due to selection of beneficiaries through a centrali- sed computer installed in Patna, the State SHRI BHARAT SINGH lOuter Delhi) capital, less than 5 per cent of the applicants Mr. Deputy-Speaker, SIr, {he Government received loan in time for Rabi sowing. Ferti- had allotted plots of 25 sq. yards to the lizer was distributed so late that tbe culti- poor workers in 1975 and thereafter they vators purchased it by one hand and sold it were also provided with water and electricity by the other, at 25 per cent discount. 8t certalD places. There are certain localities Instead of certified seeds, a mix of ordinary in Delhi such as M~D~olpuri. Sultanpuri. grain was supplied resulting in poor germina- Nagloi and Jwalapun where se\\er line has tion and differential rate of growth in tho not been laid so far which ii leading to same plot. unhygienic conditions and mosquitio breedlD& places which may cause Malal ia in an epide- mic form The D D.A has now put a condi- The ftood affected people have lost their tion for the residents of these localities that Kharif crop and the much publicised Ram they would be provided with water connec- campailn in these areas has ended in fiasco. tion only after their furnishing a no object- Nature may help but some blocks in fI~ ion certificate from the Slum DepartnlcDt ravaged distri,ts face a scarcity situatioG, Maller' Under Rule-377 MAkeH 29, 1988 Illegal MigrQllt. 264 (Determination by Tribunals) Arndt. Bill The central allocation for short-term the wbole crop of tbe farmen was ruined. central relief has been limited to about Rs. These farmers are facing dlouaht and famine crores, but tbat too bas been released conditions for tbe last four years successively. I'anO utilised only to the extent of about Rs. Farmers took crop loans and loans for 20 crores. pump sets and electric-motors for lowin. and irrigating tbeir crol'S. They took crop I 1ll'8e upon the Union Government to loans from the District Central Co-operative ask tbe State GoVe[Dment to talc effective Bank, Land Development Bank and other steps immediately so that people may not public sector banks. Because of total have to face the same situation that tbey did destruction of their crops by tbe bailstorm in- 1987. tbey cannot payoff the loans. Farmers and farm labourers of these bailstorm affected SHRI SYED MAS UDAL HOSSAIN vilJages are in emergent need of financial (Murshidabad): Tbere IS no Quorum in tbe assistance for their survival. Tbey have HOAISC. no means of subsistence to provide basic necessities of life to members of thelr MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Let the families. 1, t.berefore, urge upon tbe Union Quorum bell be rung ••• N ow there is Quo- Government to p ovide financial assistance rum. Shri Gokul SalKla. to tbe affected people. I suggest that farmers should be given compensation at tbe rate of (Yii) Steps to estabJish the proposed rupees one tbousand per acre of damaged Oil RefiDery at Lakbimpur. crops and each farm labour family should be provided rupees one thousand immediately. SHRI GOKUL SAIKIA :(lakbimpur) SettioR up of another 011 refinery in Assam is one of tbe main clauses of As:,am Accord. 12.19. brs. Lakhimpur Parliameot"ry Constituency IS unfortunately declared as 'no·industry area". ILLEGAL MIGRANTS (DETERMINA- So I request tbe Centra) Government to set TJON BY TRIBUNALS) AMENDMENT up tbe proposed oil refio::ry if. l...akhlmpur BILL·CONTD Parliamentary Constituency. The most economic backlround of this proposal Is [English] tbat Lakhimpur Parliamentary Constituency is nealeSt to the oil fields of Duliajan. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Next Secondly if this oil refinery is establisbed at Item. Item No. 13. Further consideration Lakbimpur tben tor tbe first time tbis will of the following motion moved by Shri P. link the south bank witb the north bank of Cbidambaram, on tbe 28tb March. 1988, Brahmaputra. Tbirdly, tbe unemployment namely: problem will be solved to some extent. I request the Central Government to take up ··Tbat the Bill to amend the IlJegal immediate steps to establisb the proposed Migrants (Determination by Tri- oil refiaery at Lakbimpur Parliamentary bunals) Act, 1983, be taken into Coostituency • considera tion." (",i) FID8Dela. Assistance to farmers Shn Syed Shahabuddin may now of AI"ar distdel Rajasthan "bere continue his speech. crops "ere destroyed by bail- .tona. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDJN (Kishanganj): I am alad that some Hon. smu RAM SINGH YADAV (AI.ar): Members have pointed out that the Bengali- Agricu lture crops of about fifty villages in speaking Muslims or the Hindu refugees BebroR, Mandawar, Laxmanaarh and from the erstwhile Pakistan are not tile Rajaralt Tebsils of District Alwar. Rajastban targets. Now, tbe Question arises who bad been comolctely d¢vaatated by hailstorm tben are tbe targets? Nepalese Indianll from on March 10, 1988. This time the other parts of tbe country-Who arc jDteDSit)' 01 hailstorm was so mucb II.., ,.~ ~'y1 26$ lJJegal MigrQII11 CHA11RA 9, 19 J 0 (SAKA) lJJegal MIITDlrl8 2'; (Determination by Tribunals) Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Arndt. Bill Perhaps the case is made out thlt A4Jsam Government has refused to cooperate an infiltration is going on all the time and with the Central Government in boldina a more and more people 8re entering megany census in Assam. into Assam every day. During all tbese years on so many times Here, I have got some figures given by I have railed tbis question, and I was given tbe Government which gives us an idea of a reply that the Alisam Government does the level of infiltration In an open border, not feel tbat tbey could provide tbe neces .. inftltration cannot be ruled out; and sary staff for tbe census operations. especially because of tbe economic disparities Therefore, we are not in a position to fell on the two sides of the border. But here, what is that extra quantum of people wbo we bave got the figures for tbe year 1987 have entered from somewhere or dropped as a whole, given by the Government in from the heavens, or come out of the earth. reply to Parliamentary Unstarred Question We have ab::..olutety DO Idea; and the level of No. 4466 in tbis House. It give! tbe infiltration, I have just indicated to you, is number of people apprehended at border absolute]y minimal. during the wbole year 1987 was 177, out of wbom 118 were p"Jsbed back, and S9 Assam is now returning to normalcy. were banded over to the State police for The green land is smiling apm. Then why necessary action. do we wish to disturb it again; \\ hy do we want tbe waters of Brahmaputra to turn red again? I do not say that this. in absolute terms. misht be the full picture. No; but certainly It was well said yesterday by my Hon. it is an indicator of tbe level of infiltration; colleague Mr. Blpin Pal Das that social and this does not provide a very alarming harmony was the only guarantee for picture. communal peace. But social harmony cannot be maintained by arbitrary administrahve I come to this conclusion tberefore .•. action, or by a police force which is partisan, " and which is regarded as partisan by Jarae hcctions of tbe people. by an administratioD SHRI ATAUR RAHMAN (Barpeta): which is at tbe beck and cal1 of the chauvi- May I clarify one thing ? nist forces. aod by a Government which bas come into power as a result of an aaitatioll SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: You on an ethnic issue. Tbe fear of administra" may clarify when your turn comes. tion in the minds of the minori ties of Assam is genuine. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, Mr. Rahman. I am going to call you. Please Sir: I will take 2 or 3 minutes more. speak at that time. The minorities are facing discriminatiod SHRI AT A VR RAHMAN: There are at every step. in every walk of life: in no Bengali Muslims. They are all Assamese. public employment, in education. The They are regIstered, and they have studIed Assamese language is beina imposed Od Assamese also in their schools. unwilling groups. Fifty years' residence requireme' t is prescribed for a domicile SHRI SYBD SHAHABUDDIN: I bave certificate in ordcr to get an entry into said yesterday that there was no extraor- in~titutions of higher learning. Massacres 10 dinary rise in population of certain social unpunished; and even for payment of the groups wbich are the target of this agitation, ex-gratia amounts, people are graded into between 1,5 1 and 1 97 1 . And between cate,ories-some get Rs. JO,OOO; some get 1971 and P 81, we do aot know the Rs. ,0.000; and borne are sought to be picture. although the As~am Accord, as it given Rs- sO,oro. And a quota is g\Ven was said, was intended to detect thos~ who to every police officer that he must detect had entered between J 9 i I and 19f '. No and identify and expel a certain number of "'e baa been made out, so Car, because persons. And eviction of IODs-settW ~61 illegal Migrant.J MARCH 29, 198~ IJlegai Migrants (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill agricultural communities in the Brahmaputra Assam to such continuous harassmont and Valley today is the norm of hfe, in which yet thIs goes OD. there h Dot only condonation of action by armed private groups. but in which there is Assam cannot be regarded as an total collaboration by the State machinery. exclusive homeland of any particular people In this situation, the fear in the minds of as no part of India, no part of our the minorities is absolutely genuine. Motherland can be regarded as an exclusive homeland. for anybody. This is a basic I would like to answer i1 question Some assumption which is false and which say : 'Look ; the progress so far has been has given rise to all these pro- very slow and, therefore. we must do some- blems. We cannot accept this narrow, thing about it.' The progress has been slow. chauvinistic vision. We cannot allow our because in the first place, there are not that couotry to sub-divided in this manner. many people that we thought there were; Therefore. If we would like to bring peace to and secondly, it is not certainly because A~sam, then we have to move away from Judges could not be found. but because of this sort of thinking under this law, every the terms and conditions of their appoint- member of the minority in Assam is Hable ment. It was because the tnbunals were to be charged with being a foreigner or not properly managed. I know of cases charged at least with beiog a returnee; having where Judges from outside had to depend been expelled, he has re-entered into Assam even for pencils and pins. on some local and thiS is bemg done or charged with belDg functionary. an infilterator on absolutely illusory evidence or categorised into post 1960 or post- J 971 There was no central organisation to mfiltrator Without any ground. This is what provide them with the necessary support. is happeoing~ and tbe Bill Will reinforce the They could not get even their salary in time. process, thiS arbitrary process, under this Many of them resigned and went away. The Bill whkh is before us. I would suggest progress has not been slow only because that, the government instead of coming with there were three judges and not two judges or ,uch an arbitrary piece of legislation. such that there was a distancelimit or that there injustice breeding legislation, should consider was an inbuilt penalty for perjury. The pro· the basic fact that citizenship is a central gress has been slow if at all for other reasons sutject; vigilance of the border is a central and the government must go into those reasons responsibIlity 1 would welcome any ratber than come up With this amendment machinery set up in Assam provided it is whicb strikes at the very root of fundamental directly under tbe Central Government. After rights, at the right to life and liberty and all, the Central Government is paYing for it; erodes the rule of law and places a higher it is their Job; It IS the job of the Centre to burden on the people who are likely to be detect foreigners and intercept them at tbe subjected to all these exercises and increases border and detect tbose who are inside: but the power of police over the people almost let not a vast majority of the linguistic establishes a police raj and may give rise to minority, millions of them, be subjected to a massive witch-hunting, because armed harassment and placed them at the mercy with these powers, the police may go of a police administration, whicb is totally absolutely wayward. alien; which bas no sympthy for them: which finds notbing in common with tbem; which has been known to be hostile to their interest. This Amendment Bill seeks to deliver the lamb to a tiger; not only that, it seeks to bind its hands and feet before delivery and With these words, I would like to oppose that to me is a very absurd situation. We the Bill that is before us. Once again, I are doubling the possibility of an harassment request the government to re-consider tbe which is taking place. The government matter and think about the larger interest itself is on record in tbe Parliamentary involved and the larger issue involved and Consultative Committee and on the Floor not merely surrender to the political demand of the House that many instances of of tbe present government in Assam where unwarranted harassment of the minority as you know. tbe tail is twisting the body. have come to their notice and they havo It is AASU wbich is the real force behind 9rawll 'lao attoDtioll of tho 10vcrnmoDt of tho AGP OOVOfomODt 104 \110 AOP OOYOl'll' 269 lll~al Migrant, CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Illegal Migrant. 2'70 (Determination by Tribunals) (Determinc.tion by Tribunals) Arndt Bill. Arndt. Bill ment has been forced into a political blind theD federalism will only be in name but alley and you are trying to help them out. not iD substance. Wbat have we felt in Thank you. Assam? We have felt that because of the massive migration of populatioD from across SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI (Guwahati) : our border, our culture and our language is Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, after relentlessly going to be swamped; our way of economic fighting with the Government on a number prosperity Will be lost; aDd the people of of issues 1 find myself in an interesting Assam will have no right to determiDe tbe posjtion that I stand here to support a Bill political future of this country to whicb we brought forward by the Government which are entitled and that is why. there wr s the is being opposed by most of the opposition siK-years lorg Assam Movement.. The members here. Mr. Somnath Chatterjee, massive migration has completel) upset the my distinguished friend. made an appeal to demographic character and has suffocated AGP MPs. AGP Government and the the language and tbe culture of Assam. I people. He pointed out that we should will give some figures whicb will show that make an attempt to maiDtain the federdl the pIcture presented by Mr. Shahabuddin structure. We should fight with them IS DOt corre.;t. together, the executive abuses of the CODsti- tution He appealed to us not to divide Federalism in this couDtry mmt mtan- the society in Assam. He asked us not to the people of every State must feel- that do anythtng which would help the ruling they are not oDly a part of the integrated party. He asked us to respect the national uDited whole Jndia, but also that the umt commitment to the people given by Panduji, safeguards the speCific character of its Gandhiji and others. He asked us not to - peopJe and protects tbem under the scheme compromise with the forces of divlsioD. of things. Therefore, "e launched a move- His last complaint was, while the Bill was ment for SIX years and supported it iD order brought, a compldlDt which also has been to safeguard the federal character of made by Sbri Shahabuddin, that there was the ConstitutlOD. My fnend there has said, DO consultation with the OppositioD. 'Do not do anythlDg which would help the ruling party'. I feel it my duty to respond to sorre of these appeals fJ'Iade by Honourable Shri SIr, the As"am Movement fought with Chatterjee. We are committed as aJ1yone the ruling part) for six years. More than else if not more. for maintainmg the federa- four hundred men, "omen and children died Ii'itic structure of this country. ID fact, ",hat dUTlng this agitation. Our boys aDd girls IS the genesis of the Assam Movement? could not live for years together iD their The genesis of the Assam Movem\!nt is that homes and they had to llve ID the oeJds to the Movement was launched to protect avoid police utroclties Untold miseries had the independence and integnly of the country to be faced t-y the people (If Assam 10 the and the federal'stic character of the Indian name of Constitutional compulsion. When Polity. Federalism does nN mean a mere the election ~ as impost"d in 19~ 3, more geographical entity, merely becau'e the than ,even thomand people died but we State is carved out with a geographical did not compromIse with the ruling parry; boundary aDd a Dame is given to it,-one and in the matters of executive abuo;es and cannot say that a federalistll' character cf in the fight for dem(lcratic rights, we never the pollt) ha~ beeD establhht:d Federall!)m comprcmised and wtll not compromise. means, in tbe context of India. 'enity in divercity'. Federalic;m pre-supposes that there are constituent units in India which lr fact, I have got a complaint against have different cultures, which has different ~r. Somn~th Chatterjee and his party. At languages aDd which have different ways of the time ,"hen the election was imposed in life; and the culture, the langl age, the way the Stale and when thr e-ntire people of of life and aspirations of dlffel ent people Assam in (lie voice said that the election must fiDd its fulfilment in that constituent of ! 98 3 should not t2ke place- iD that units. If for one reason or the other, the election out of tNal voters of seventy language, the culture and the way of life thousand In a consfttuercy sixty nine does oot nod response iD a particular area, thousand nine hundred and thirty eight .,t INt,o/ M",tJIIt, MAItCH 2f, 198. II_tJI MIl,." (fhalermhlatJo. by Tribunals) (Deterfilinati on by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill. ~ers decided not to cast their votes and by Mr. Ouluri Lal NeDda; the commltmeDt Membeftl were elocted only by the virtoc was reiterated by Iiorarji Desai; the 'Of pottioa sixty two votes Mr. Cbatterjt.. s commitment was thea reiterate4 by Indira party helped the rutina party on tllat day Gandhi. Does it mean that thie commitment and SCJootI by them. I bope, they have learnt to tbe people of A... has DO 'political a Iea.OQ. bindins? Therefore, there is a commitment to tbe people of Assam tbat the question Sir, Mr. Somnath Chatterjee bas said of foreigners must be solved. So wben about a commitment of Nehru, Patel and Mr. Somnath Chatterjee speaks about the Gandhi. What was the commitment ? The commitment. I think, he distorts history. commitment was, in tbe process of parti- tion, tfaosc pool'le wbo have suffered and tbosc, who at tbtt point of time being, He further said: Do not divide Assam. acceptOd Pakistan's citizenship, if they We have no intention of dividing Assam. waDt to return tbey would be given shelter, In fact, Assam is probably one of those Does it mean tbat tbe commitment stands States which can claim that tIM people for ever? Does it mean that any person there have laved in amity even under the who is in Bang'adesb or in Pakistan bas times of extreme stresses. We have seen for the rigbt to become our ci tizen for all tbe the last SUt years during tbe Assam move- times to come -wa'i this a commitment that ment polarisation of communities. But the if be comes to tbis country, he will be able fact remains that when tbe country was to stay bere as Indian Citizen for an time burning in Men-ut a few months back, to come. If this commItment 'We give to tbe Assam was one State where there was no Hindu population there, does it not follow - tbe tbreat of communal disturbance. Here tbat General Zla can say that he is the is a State-Mr. Chidambaram will bear lUarciian of tbe Muslim population and he me out and Mr. Buta Singb did bear me i. tbe protector of Muslim interest in this out-with such tradition that ~hen in couatry? But there was anotber commit- Meerut and other places there were commn- a.ot--commitment given by Nehru. com- nal disturbances, on the day of Id warning mitment given by Shastriji. commitment signals were put to different States that liven by Morarji Desai, commitment given there were possibilities of ugly forces of by GuJzari Lal Nanda and then commitment communalism ral.ll'lg their ugly heads. liven by Indira Gandhi-and that commit- Mr. Chidambaram did not have to bother ment was that Assam will be saved from ab~ut Assam because in Assam the strength the influx of foreigners. of the people is such that communal forces cannot bave any play. Hero I want to draw your attention to a specific commitment made in this House Let me point out to Mr. Shahabuddin by Nehru in 1962. When a question was that Ram Janam Bhumi and Babri Masjid put to him. not by All Assam Students quarrel is going on io Uttar Pradesh. But Union, Dot by tbe AAGSP, but tbe question in AS4lam we have got the Hayagnb Madhab was put by 9 Members of tbe Assam Mandir at Hajo and Poa Mecca-ooe Conarets asking protection from the ma!osive religious place of Hindus and other religious influx, what was bis reply 1 His reply was: place of Muc;lims-facing face to face One You referred to Pakistani infiltration This who goes to Poa Mecca a1 4i1 o goes to Haya- is perfectly troe But you appr~iatf' the grib Madbab Mandir with equal rc"erence. fact that this infiftration is taking place for Whether he is a Hindu or Musfim. one a long time. This infiltrati{)n sbould be who goes to the Hayagrib Madhab Mandir. stopped and effectively dealt with Probably he makec; it a point to go to Poa Mecca in it will be diflicult to deal now witb the reverence and vice versa. So, Assam's jUepl immilrants \\ ho came from 19S 2. tradition is built on emity. We know what We might, tberefore, take' 951. as tbe date attempt was made by polilical forccs to of eftquiry. The commitment was that risbt divide and destroy that amity for their from 1952 the influx in Assam would be narrow political ends. We are uot interested MOpped. J wDi give some figures to teU you in diversion of the Assamese Society. You what happens. In 19 S 2 the commitment bave seen that there are six Mombers of ,.. made Tb-e commi'mont was re-iterated AGP in (1)'1 House. We arc here for tbe m 1I/tfJGI M16f'/IfII. CHAITRA 9. t918 (SAKA) IIk,tJI ."._" 114 (D.NrmlJJation by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribll1lO/,) / Amdt. Bill Arndt. Bill last two,_._ Have we, at any point of SHIU BIPIN PAL DAS (Tezpar): Sil'. time. dep1dte4 • ., sign of communalism I did not say tbat, I only quoted the Chief aod chauvinism itl our behaviour, in our Minister of Assam. prODoUncemeats 1 SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: 1 am quoting the Chief Minister. And the cues In Assam we are running a Government. disposed of by the tribunals is 3854. What I know that whether AGP wiIJ be there on do these figures indicate? These figures th~ political map or not will be dependent prove that the Government of Assam bas on two factors. One. how much we are been extremely careful towards the minorities. able to convince the majority population of Now what ha~ happened? '{here is a Assam about our genuine desire to solve commitment of tbe people of Assam that Assam problem including tbe foreigners' people wbo bave come after t 966-that problem. Equal1y we know tbat we must is the Assam accord that the people who carry conviction with the minorities becau~e have come in between 1966 and 1971. if we cannot carry conviction with different their names are to be defranchised for 10 sections of the population, no Government years. I need not give justification of it. in Assam can last. Therefore, we are more After all, the nation has accepted it the concerned than anyone else about tbe amity people who have come after J 971 have to be and understanding of diff.:rent communities detected, their names are to be deleted, they in Assam. are to be deported. Sir, we do not want the Damocles' sword to hang over tbe minorities of Assam for all times to come because wo Mr. Somnath Chatterjee and Mr. know that there are political parties who Shahabuddin made a point as to why the go to the minorities and say. 'If you do Opposition was not consulted. It is a point not vote for us, you will not be tJ~atecJ u to which Mr. Chidambaram will reply. ] Indian citizens.' (Intt>,.,.uptlollS). AGP .... strongly believe that in all these matters the that the minoritits should for oace laow Opposition should be consulted. But may whether they are Indian citiZOM Of not, I point out to them that in 1983 Vvhen the as lakhs of people cannot be kept ill • state Illegal MIgrants (Determination by Tribunals) of uncertainty and therefOt"e. iD respect of Act was passed, As"am was unrepresented those who have come after 1'. MIl before in the Lok Sabha. In 1983 I myself was 1 97 1 we want to confa' on them fuD rights one of the main spokesmen of the Assam to which they are entitled UDder the Assam cause in Rajya Sabba. I ask Mr. Somnalh accord except the right of fraochise. We waDt Chatterjee and Mr. Shahabuddin: "Did you to tell those who are Indian citizens by at that point of time tell the Goverrment, virtue of tbeir coming before 1966 or 'Consult the Assam leaders. consult them tbose coming after 1966 that. -do not fear. at 1east once before tbe Bill is passed' ?" If you have come after 1966 and ~fore You do not mind when the voice of As"am 1971, well, you have all tbe rights. but was throttled. At that tIme the consultation not tbe right of franchise. If you have was not there and if you go through the come before 1966, you have aU the rights. records of the Rajya Sabba, you will find the rightc; of Indian citizens. But how do we that I opposed the BItt on that day tooth do it? The one way in which we are goiDg and nail I said, 'this is again a nail in the ahead is. we have decided to compare coffin of the solutIon of A~sam problem'. the voters' lists of J 97; and 1966 and Therefore, when we talk or bUIld up of tbose names which dId find place in 197 t conventions. the conventions mu~t be built but did not find p1ace in 1966 we asked up in a manner that the voices of every- our poJicemen to go and ask them indivi- body can be heard. dually that 'gentleman. your Dame is there in tbe 1971 voters' Jist but not in tbe 1966 Jist. Will you kindly tell us as to Mr. Bipin Pal Das, my esteemed friend, why your name is not there l' And if he quoted certain figures. Mr. Dipin Pa1 Das can satisfactorily reply that 'this is the said that there have been inquiric5 cOt'lducted ground as to why my name is Dot then-. for 3,'5,0(10; number of cases referred to h;s case is not sent to the Tribunal. fa tribunals is 21,000. fact, at DO point of time duriua thaIe 2" III,." AI.... , MARCH 29. 1988 11,.,' Ml8rtm1l 216 (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amit.Bill Amdt Bill 40 ycars soch reaularisation of namas toolt AOP bas come to power. it is not at the place and tbat is wby we did inquire mercy of Mr. Rajiv Gandbi or Mr. Bipin about the three lalths of names. But wbat Pal Das. We have come to power because. happened? If AGP had been vindictive, out for 6 yean we foulht tbe opprossion, tbe of these three lakhs. at least I,SO,OOO cases terrible oppression perpetrated upon us by would bave been referred to the tribunals. Congress· I. We have come to power No. AU our machinery found out is because the people in Assam felt tbat, to tbat out of it, only 21 ,000 people could protect the interests of our people not satisfactorily say as (0 why tbeir names were there in 1971 and oot in 1966 and these cases had b.-,oo seat to the SHRI BIPIN PAL DAB: J never saId tribunal. Tbese figures. I tbint, belie tbe tbat they have come to power at the mercy apprehension tbat tbe AGP Government is of Mr. Rajiv Gandhi. I only said that tryina to harass tbe minorities. It may be Mr. Rajiv Gandhi was serious and .incere in that the system we have followed may not solving the problem of Assam. That is why, be to your satisfaction. If you can suggest the Assam Accord came. When the Assam an alternative good system, we will definitely Accord came. later on, by fighting tbe consider it. But after all. even during tbe elections, tbey have come to power. Tbese movement and eveo now and during the are all consequential. Congress was serious consultations witb the Home Minister we and sincere in solving the Assam problem. have said times witbout number tbat certain That is why Assam Accord was signed. documents sball bave to be taken into account. One of these documents is tbe SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: Assam electoral .roll. Accord did come, not because Mr. Rajiv Gandhi wanted. Now, I want to make it clear tbat no notice bas been served on any of the foreigners and witb all tbe empbasis at my SARI BIPIN PAL DAS : It is because, command and tbe responsibility. I challenge he wanted it. tbose who have said t notices have been served. Kindly produce one notice before SHRI DINESH GOSW AMI: Wben us which was served on any person as tbe people of a State relentlessly fight for alleged foreigner. We have discllsse1 this a right for 6 years. whetber it is Mr. Rajlv threadbare in our parly meeting. No notice Gandhi or anyone else. at some point of has been served to anyone. Oalya prelImi- history, tbe authorities sball have to concede nary enquiry has been made and we have th,s right. That was the historical imperative. decided tbat after tbe preliminary enquiry. tbose persons against whom it will be establisbed tbat tbey have come either before Mr. Bipin Pdl Das said, we did not '966 or 1971, we will regularise them accept 1971 and we are responsible for the and we will take action against them. killings of 1980-83? He bas forgotten tbat Oamocte's sword would not be kept hanging the elections in 1 Q8 3 was imposed In the over them. We will not tell tbem. jf YOIl name of Constitutional ob)j~ation and the only vote for us. we wilJ treat you as Indian ground was that in Assam, tbe President rule citizens. We have told them, you may cannot be extended for more tban one year. support us, you may Dot support us, but What have we done now in Punjab 1 We we waot this problem to be solved. have passed Constitutional amendment tbat tbis one year bar is not applicable to Now. Mr. Bipin Pal DaB bas said thar Punjab. Look to tbe proceedinas of we sbould thank Mr. Rajiv Gandhi for Rajya Sabha. I urged them to have similar AGP bas come to power because provisions for Assam. ) pleaded tbat Jet Mr. a.,jiv Gandhi come up with the As~am us at Jeast keCJ) it pendinl for one year Accord. If tbat araument fa aaceptecl. and that was not heeded to. According 10 pr.Wy one can say tbat Pandit lawabarlal tbe Government's own statistics, 3500 N.... became tbe first Prime MlOi~ter people were killed in tbe process of .,_. tile Britishers 4ecided to Je1ve eJection. Constitution i. meant for men l..,.'" '!II. have 'ousbt f., • yearl. If tbe and not men for the CODstitutioD. If a 277 Illegal Migrants CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAK:A) lIIegai Migrants 2'8 (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt . Bill Constitution leads to the killing of 3500 What is the conclusion from these people, there is either something inherently figures? I am quoting from a paragraph of wrong with that Government which manages that Document : that Constitution or the Constitution itself. "The obvious conclusion from an Mr. Shahabuddin quoted certain figures. analysis of the census figures of Let me also quote 'certain figures. In t 957, Pakistan is that there is considerable the total number of voters in Assam were migration from 8 to 17 East Pakistan 44,93,357. In 1970, the total numbers districts during the decade of 195 1 to were 57,01,805. It means, in 13 years, 1961." the number of voters increased by 13 lakhs, one lakh for each year. But. in 1979 ...• , I wiil also show that in East Pakistan whereas in the district of Noakhali, the people (If the age group of 1 to 14, the SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: How percentage rise was 12.1. The people above can you cite just one arbitrary set of years. ~O. their percentage rise was 70.5, there It may be that in t 957, they were under was no rise in the age group of 15-59. enumerated. That takes away the entire There was, in fact, a decline of population basis of your argument. to the extent of 5.5 %. This Document concluded that in a highly dense population of Bangladesh, people up to 15, there was a SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: I am percentage rise in the case of people above saying that every election shows the percent- 60, there was a percentage rise. How was there age rise of voters or the rise' of electors a decline of 5.5% in the age group of ''Was about one lakh per year. In 1979, 15-59? This Document concludes, not the number of voters rose "to 85,37,497, my document, the Government of India's a rise of 28,35,692-in 8 years, i.e. document, reiterated by another Document 3,5 lakhs per year. All India population of the Assam Pradesh Congress Committee rises at 21.57 rate. The Assam's population that people of the age group of 15-59 rises 34.95. 'At least, up till now nobody could migrate easily and that is why such has said that the women of Assam an: demographical absurdities took place. more fertile tban women of the rest of the country. Coming to the Bill itself, we are not very happy with the Bill. We wanted more I wili quote a particular Document which amendments. We pleaded with Mr. P. is a Document of the Government of India Chidambaram. I know about the negotiations published by the DA VP and that Document as I myself was present in one or two ° shows that during the ten years from 1951 discussions. Ultimately we said let us to 1962, the total increase of population agree to disagree. We knew tbat there are in the neighbouring States of the then some shortcomings. What are the amend- East Pakistan was to the extent of ments that have been made? Why one 34,12,045 and this Document has further should have all these apprehensions? In analysed the census figures of West Bengal, the case of the number of tribunals, the Assam, Tripura and East Pakistan and number of the members has been reduced came to the conclusion that there has been from 3 to 2. A tribunal is constituted by a an increase of 34,12,045 people over the judge who must be a district judge. A normal biological growth of Assam, West District Judge can determine civil cases to Bengal and Tripura and there has been a an unlimited jurisdiction every day. While decrease of 34 lakhs of people in East one District Judge can determine the cases, Pakistan than the normal biological growth why do you want 3 ? Mr. Somnath Chatterjee of the people of East Pakistan. I am not will bear me out that even. Even in High quoting my Document. This is a Document Court when you want to have a case before which has been published by the Directorate a three Member bench, it creates much of Advertisement and Visual Publicity, more complications, much more difficulties Ministry of Information and Broadcasting of than when you have a bond of one or two tbe Government of India. judges. We wanted to have tribunal of 9PQ 2i~ JIl,gal Migrants MARCH 29, 1988 Illegal Migrants 286 (Determination by Tribll'1a/s) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt Bill judge. Will it make any difference jf three autbority or jurisdiction to tbe Police Officer 'judFs are brought to 2 ? Will the minorities to bind him. Tbe result was tbat person be harassed merely because from 3. we are left tbat place and went to some other place. bringing it down to 2? We say tbat, after Therefore, a provision has been made that if aU, you bave asked fOT a fee of Rs. 25/-. a person is found to be a foreigner, he will You want that if somebody wants to be directed to appear before the Tribunal -complain apinst a foreigner. he must and also if the Police Officer Le. tbe rank liw a fee of Rs. 25/- and sign two not below that of a Superintendent of Police affidavit. Now I shall have to pay Rs. 25/- feels tbat an undertaking should be taken and So to a lawyer. engage him by paying from bim, then an undertaking will be taken. him Rs. 200/- and sign two affidavit. Do That is the normal, rouHne, legal provision yau tbink tbat tbe people of tbis country which was left out, whicb unfortunately did have become so national conscious that they not find a place in the Act. But the amend- will take aU this burden to appeal to some- ments for which we fought very heavily and body tbat somebody is a foreigner ? wltb which Mr. Chidambaram did not agree and ultimately the matter was referred to tbe SHRI SYED SHAHABUODIN: Don't Attorney-General. was the burden of proof. underestimate our patriotism. I Will speak about tbe same when my amendment to which I have given nouce SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: have comes up for discussion. I know tbat my Dever underestimated your patriotism. amendment will not be accepted. But I will make my own submissions. So rar as High COJrt Appellate Tribunal Sir, I would submit that tbe Central is concerned. it is constituted of Judges. Agam, Government should go all-out to implement tbe number IS reduced from three to two. the Assam Accord b~cause the situation in Can you say tbat if there are three members As\am IS again getting complicated. There- in tbe Appellate Tribunal. the mmontles Will fore. unless the State Government and the get justice and if it IS of 2 members, tbe Central Government implement the Assam minorities will not get Justice? we wanted Accord, we may come back to square one. tbat tbe re'lisional POWCIS should be done There are many pOlOtS. But this is not the away witb ? In fact in the very Act that was occa.,ion where we can have another general brought into existence In 198 t. it was diSCUSSIOn l-n the Assam Accord. But the specifically mentioned th..1 t the Act bas been fenc·r,g and the road committment is there. brouBht for speedy trial. How can you have Not much progress bas been done. We have speedy trial? Tbe tribunal will first deCide. gIven certam proposals for constitutional Tben, there will be an Appellate Tribunal safeguards which were accepted UDder Clause consisting of tbe Higb Court Judges. In the 6 of the Assam Accord. So far as I know, eonstitution and in cases of all other Tribu- no discussion with the Government has taken nals, there is no power of the High Court. place. I will urge upon the Central Govern- The matter goes directlj to tbe S~preme ment to expedite whatever is to be done for Court. Therefore, here we have said that as the Assam Accord. the cases are going to be decided by two or three Higb Court Judges. Again, you want I will conclude wltb an appeal. as Mr. tbe High Court Judges to have tbe revisional Somnalb Chatterjee made an appeal and power. The High Court bas the power of 1 will wcclude also by maklUg an appeal to .uperinlcncience Lnder Article 226 of the n.) fHends both at tbe Treasury Benches as Constitution. which is a wider power than \\dl as the OpPosltioo. tbe revisional power. Therefore. do not confer two powers. That is wby one of the .forms bas been taken away. I do not know Sir, tbe Government of youngmen have bow my friends suddenly fecI that because of come to power in the State of Assam. Here this tbe minorities will be affected. There is a Government of men who stood for certain has been an tmpowerment to bind persons. principles for the last six years of the move- What happened was that supposing the ment. We know how attempts were made to Police O.ffieer went and found that somebody divide. how attempts were made to purchase it a fOfeip.cr, dliJ h;t did DOt plovidc aDY them aDd what type of at{ocitic. the, bad to 21 t likrtJ "lgranl, CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Illegal Migrants ~8~ (Determination by Tribunals) (Determinatiol( by Tribunals) A.mdt Bill. Arndt. Bill suffer. But they stood by their commitment. tbat atrocities are being committed OD the Whether tbis commitment was correct or not, minorities after A.G.P. Government came to whether we fougbt with a wrong cause or a power. right cause, I am not going to submit here. History will be the ultimate judge of it. But SHRI BHADRESWAR T ANTI (Kalia- no people can carryon a battle for six loog bor): It is not correct. .. (Inte"uptions) years witb all the suffering uoless there is a commitment to the cause. These boys who are in the Government of Assam are facing SHRI ZAINUL BASHBR: We have criticism saying that tbey are not doiog not f orgotton tbe Assam movement yet. enough to remove the foreigners. In fact, tbe When this Honse was constituted in 1980 ... figures have been thrown at us. Wby is it (Interruptions) that ooly 3000 cases have been sent to the Tribunal and why oot more? Why not you [English] send lakhs of cases to the Tribunal? Their own supporters today are criticising them. If SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI : Don't we also start criticising them by saying wby mislead tbe House. did you send 3000 cases and wby are you not doing tbis, why are you not doing that, SHRI AZIZ QURESHI (Satna) : I strongly then tbe situation will not ease. ] will tbere- object to that. Wbat is tbis? (Interruption,) fore appeal to tbe Members of both the sides to give proper guidance and chance to SHRI BHADRESWAR T ANTI : This the young Government in Assam so that the is after the Accord. (InterruptionS) ommunal disharmony which did appear during the six years of tbe movement, tbe cstralDs tbat appeared in the social life of MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : He is Assam, can be repaired. And. Assam can express 109 bls point. Wby are you objecting? once more flourish for new politicaJ economIc (Inlerruptions) and social progress. MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER It is not [Translation} unparliamentary. SHRl ZAINUL BASHER (Gbazipur) : (Interruptions) Tbe Han. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am unable to understand why this Bill bas been brought THE MIN1STER OF STATE IN THB forward .•. (Interruptions) MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENS10NS AND [English] MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI P. Are you having lunch, Sir? CHIDAMBARAM) : This is not fair at all. We beard Sbri Dinesh Goswami MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. no. without a word of interruptio". We heard Carryon. Already we have agreed that there Mr. Somnatb Chatterjee yesterday without won't be any lunch. a word of lnterruption. The first speaker on our side Mr. Bipin Pal Das was interrupted {Translatian] yesterday. They should alia\\' our members to speak. T!1is is not fair at all. He will get SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: I am not at a chance to speak. You cannot go on inter- all satisfied witb the arguments given by tbe ,uplillg debate after debate. Minister of Homt' Affairs while moving the At the time of Assam Accord and Bill. [Translation] thereafter during the ejections tbere, tbe Government of India and tbe Congress party bad given tbis assurance to the minorities of SHR) ZAJNUL BASHER· Mr. Deputy Assam that the minoritie! would not be Speaker. Sir. tbe Assam movement w~s harassed in any way. But I am sorry to say discus~d in this very House after the ~oos u- 283 Illegal Migrant, MARca 29, 1988 Illegal Utrani' ~A4 (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill tution of 7 th Lok Sabha. I can recollect him, "Have you any proof tbat you are that practically all the Members of this his son 1" Mr. Chidambaram, you House had expressed this view that the are a learned lawyer, you plea.e Jet us administration ant) police of Assam was know any law by which a man can prove supporting the movement. Probably this is that he is the son of his fatber. HoW will why tbe Assam Movement could be sustained he prove? Such type of questions are asked so long. When we were unable to cbange the in Assam. attitude and tbinking of administration and police of Assam even during tbe President's I was just now listening Sbri Dinesb rule or tbe Congress Party rule. how can we Goswami. He is a senior Member and I sure that the police and administration of have great regard for bim. He was emotional Assam under the rule of those past agitat:Jfs when be was speaking. I know him perso- will make proper use of the additional nally. Tbis is rigbt tbat we sbould bave powers being provided to them? Whether mutual understanding and the spirit of tbere were not enough powers with the police communalism must not exist among tbe that you are providing additional powers people and this is tbe history of Assam. If that police would make enquiries only when we look 7· 8 years back tben we will find it will receive proper applicatioa. ·You have tb\t tbere has never been a communal frenzy certainly provided that no officer below the in Assam. The people of Assam have been rank of Superintendant of Police will super- living with mutual understanding. Wbatever vise. may be the good intentions of A.G.P. Gove- rnment in Assam but it is true that "tbe (Tt1IIISlation1 Government is now working under tbe pre- ssures of hardcore agitators. The A.G.P. Keeping in view tbe amendmenl made in Government is now feeling tbat if it does the Act, it is boped tbat tbe Police Depart· Dot wurk according to the situation pre- ment will receive complaints at a very large vailing in pre-agitation period, then perhaps scale aDd then, not the Police Suprintendcnt it will not be in a position to win the but tbe Inspector. Head Constable or a Assemblyelection in future. A.G.P. Gove- Constable may go for verification and as it rnment is under pressure now-a-days. The is usually dQne, a cycJostyled form will be way in which Shri Dinesh Goswami was siaoed by the Superintendent of Police in rou· speaking. I can very well guess about his tine manner. Ttae policeman will go and only anguish. Shri Dinesh Goswami is one of harass the people and \'ictimise them. Pfe- those persons who always stands against viously. any penon residing within tbe three every type of oppression. As tbe election knometer area could lodge a complaint but date is approaching fast, the sections of now tbe entire Tbana area bas been covered. A.A.S.U. and A.G.P. or Assam whicb can The poliOe stations of our area are situated be termed as extremists are putting ideologi- at the radius of 20·25 kilometers and I cal pressure on the Government. The A.G.P. think tbat in Assam the police stations are Government is also excercising pressure on situated in tbe radius of 50 or 60 or 70 kilo- Government of India. In view of this I' meters. How a person living 70 kilometers would like to ask tbe Hon. Minister of away will ascertain that a particular person Home Affairs whether tbe Indian Govern- is an outsider or be is resident of tbat place ment is going to yield to this prelsure ? I and how be would be able to lodge a know. that the A.G.P. Government bas been complaint against him. The only possibility presurizing the Government of India to is that a stereotype complaint on large scale introduce tbis BiJJ and perhaps it was will be sent. I think effort will be made to pressurizing to include stringent measures in . entrap aU the perSODS belonging to minority this Bill but the Government of India bas communities this net. The Policemen would not agreed to the same as yet. There is no 10. barass them, ask them to produces proof sucb provision in the Assam Accord by aDd also ask different types of irrelevant which the Government is bound to introduce queStiODS. Previously, when I went to such type of Bill. It is duty of the Centra-r A'lam 1 lot many complaints. When Government to find out the foreiancn and any person tells tbem tbat he is our fatber. -deport tbem and they are on the job. How. bis ace is 75.60 or 70 Yearl and he wal the minor and petty tbinp have taken place \lOrD in Allam. Tllen tho poliQCmoD uk tba' iostead of tbree judi" you aarocd to 285 111~R'll1 Migrant' CHAITitA 9, 19 J 0 (SARA) lll~gal Migrants 286 (Determination by Tribunals) Determination b»Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Arndt. Bill appoint ooly two judges. There was a I say that because Congress' is a political prOVision in the accord that among three party, it will have to care for the vote bank. jOdges one will be from Assam and the rest Up-to-now majority of this SO per cent of tho two would be from outside. But now minority community bas been a vote bank of the Government bas appointed only two Congress party. In the recent elections also judges, one from Assam and another from had the United Minority Front Assam has outside Assam. Suppose, these two judges not been constituted and not contested tbe differ from one another on a particular point ~Iections in Assam, then, the election results then. it wi)) bave to go through a very long would have been quite different. Thf I e are process. First of all, it will be seot to the no two opinion about tbis fact. BUI what Tribunal and the Tribunal would refer it to we aTe doing for tbem except creating com- some other district and then, only a judge of plications by introducing this amendment. some other district will take a decision' Slf, This an,endment will create only problems the people of Assam are very poor, laboJrers for them. Mr. Cbidambaram, will you tell us and uneducated persons. Mr. Chidambaram, in your reply that this provision WIll not be perhaps you are not aware that a very large misused and tbe Assam administration dnd section of the minorities in Assam is unedu- police will not harass the people under this cated. Most of them could not get education provision. I want to know, bow will you and they do not know even this much that take care of the minorities. when the.ir forefathels migrated to Assam,' whether they had any documentary proof to At last, I want to say that the Indian tbat effect. All that they know is that their Government should not ignore the minorities forefathers used to make a living by cutting of As~am. The minorities of Assam have a forests and cultivating tbe fields. Perhaps grievance that they were neither taken into they do not know tbat the Government of confidence nor they were consulted at the Assam is depriving them of tbeir livelihood. time when the Assam Accord was sillDed, The area along the BrahmClputra is flooded Although, 1 am a suppDrter of Assam Accord every year. Farmers come to that area after and think that the As<;am problem hac; been the flood waters recede and engage them- solved through this Accord and it i~ also in selves in agricultural activities, build house~ the interest of minorities. We try to convince and thus make both ends meet. This year the A~5~meC;e that their interests bave beeon also when there was flood havoc in Brahma- tal-en care of in tte Accord. But today putra river they Jeft their respective homes their complaint against the A.G.P. Govern- but now they are not being allowed to return ment ic; that this Government is not a to tbeir homes. They are being stopped hy unanirrously elected Government, the police and the agitators of Assam. They are taking possessio[Js of their lands. The people of minority commonity are facing The A.G. p" Government is a majority Government. There are also oppOSition these problems everywhere in Assam. I parties. The Congre.;s Party and tbe Unite d think. you must be aware of it. I could not Minority Front are also there. Tben= are understand bow and in what way Central several minorit} organisations. Why wete Government are fulfilling the assurance and their opinion was not taken into confidence the guarantee which our party and Govern- about 'his amendment? Why their opinion ment bad given to the Assamese that they was not taken in this regard? They have will not be subject to any atrocity or hara~<; subrniued a [lumb~r of mefl'oranda to the ment under the A.G.P. Government. Mino- Government. The Government on its part nt OS D Assam is not t~rmed as ordinary should have laken all of th: m into confi- minority. In fdet it !Deludes Bengali Hindu. dence. The As~am problem can be solved Bengali Muslim, tbe persons migrated from only \\ hen steps are taken by taking all other parts of India and settled in Assam, sections of the people into confidence. Tribals or the Nepalese. The minority community in Assam is not ic; small commu- nity, it forms SO per cent population of J may make one thing clear tbat it wiU Assam. They cannot be hmored. our Hon, not pe proper jf f he Government succumbed collea,ue, Shri Vipin Pdl Das, for whom I to the wi&hes of the agitators and extremists. have Ifeat regard was saying that the Cong- AASU had threatened to stop oil supply and ress Party docs not cafC for vote bank. But tbey actually stopped oil supply, So sbould DB7 1I1qal Migrll1lt' MARCH 29, 1988 11/~6111 MIg,Illlt4 288 (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Am4t.Bill Arndt. Bill we take it tbat' this amendment bas been comes from Madras and settles in Bibar, introduced because of their pressure. If \t should he be treated as a foreigner? It is so tben they will be encouraged to take should not be like this as ours is a federal furtber steps and tbe A.G.P. will not be able country-and anybody can settle anywhere to cbeelc tbem. Though the A.G.P. has good be likes. I, therefore. request the Govern- intentions but it is under pressure. These ment that keeping in view of the Accord it e'ements will exert more and more pressure should make endeavours to establish peace. on tbe A.G P. as tbe elections come closer. How many Bill· you will b. ing forward and Tbe Government should take ateps to cbeck how much power you need. Since ruling this pressure. party has majority, it can introduce as many Bi1ls as it wishes. The Government can With these words, I conclude. acquire enormous powers by getting more and more Bills pas1cd. In spite of tbat, I urge the Government to reconsider this SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH matter. Though we are in opposition, it (Jabanabad): Me. Deputy Spealcer. Sir, should not be construed that whatever we this Bill deals witb identification of foreign say is wrong, 1f the Government commits nationals. In tois connection, I would like anything wrong, its own Members should to point out that at the time of signing of also point it out that the action of the Assam Accord. the Congress Pdrty. had Government is useful or harmful to the made some commitments in respect of mino- nation rities. Then what was the need of bringing tbis amendment in a hurry when tbe above I would like to say this mucb only on commitemnl is yet to be fulfilled. The most this Bill and do not want to take more esseDtial thing is tbat ours is a federal time. country. No State is a country. It is very dangerous to treat a State as a country. A citizen of tbe country has a right to settle in [Euglish] any State he likes. It is not proper to dis- place a person from a place where he has PROP. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla) : living for the last 40- 5 0 years and has Sir, our esteemed fnend, Me. Cbidambaram established the means of his livelihood. He is on a weak wicket today. I will not take should be accorded the cilizenship. As tbis much Hme of the House and I wjll be brief. .mae. it will Dot be a good thing to equip It is very difficult to believe that these the police with unrestricted authority through amendments have substantialJy improved the tbis Bill. Complaints agai nst police have situation under the rules that you have in been received from several places. Tbere your hand I feel that these amendments to are complaints from the minorities tbat the an extent institutionalise harassment. I would police in Uttar Pradesh, where the Govern- start from the prinCiples that you have. You ment bas good hold, w JS working hand in could declare S!Jb-section (2) of Section (8) glove with the commun:!} forces indulging in as redundant and could be deleted because riots. In the present circumstances. if the Government has enough powers. Govern- police wilt be given more powers, it will ment could feel tbat at a certain point of encourage secessionist forces. It will not be time, somebody is ilIesal in A'sam and he possible to maintain peace If tbe Govern- can be removed and asked to leave the ment wi shes to establish pea:e in that Slate country But you give this ri~bt and you it should take up the ma,ter with the State create a situation by Sub-section (2) wh ich Government and sort it out The minority says' 'Without prejudice to the power con- section of the State is not a minority as such ferred on tbe Central Government by Sub- rather it is a very large in number. Had tbe seclion (')'. In 8A, it is given "Any person Government implemented the Accord, tbere may make an application to the Central would have been no need to introduce this Governmtnt, for decision by a Tribunal, as Bill. This Bill will leali to a conflict which to whether the person whose name and other i. totally uncalled for. Those people, whom particulars arc givtn in the application. is or tbe Government considers to be foreigners is not an illegal migrant". Now. if Mr. are not (oreisoers in real sense. This aspect Chidambaram has not deleted it and if you needs to be. rc·~D5idered. If somebody say tbat pou have improved it by these 2'9 (D II/eta! MIgrant, CHAITRA " '9'0 (SAICA) 1116101 J//ptJnI, 2~1J etA::~~a~fu by Tribunals) (Determination by rribllllll18j . Am~.Bm amendments, you say that such a person will record properJy whicb I think tbey have, lie pay Rs. 10 instead of Rs. 25. You bave s aid that there bas been barasslDCllt. I facilitated tbose complaints by people who wouJd like to say tbgt be made a wrona may be concerned or who may not be con- statement. When be was referriDi to tIM cerned. Hence, 1 ask for deletion of Sub- Coo gress, Shri Zainul Basber questioned section (2) of Section (8) of tbe Act tbat is back appropriately. He said tbat 10 rat as already in your band. Now, since you say the vote bank is concerned. the Mutlim tbat you have improved the. llituation I minority in Assam ha! a lot of clout: to they came forward for the deletion of sub-section should feel concerned about that. Shri .Bipin (1) of Section (~). I was referring tbese to Pal Das referred to a constituency. invite your attention to tllese amendments. Tbese have not improved tbe situation at all. SHRI DIPIN PAL DAS: I would lite Similarly, you say in"tead of three members to correct him. What I said was that the it will be two members, It is a very strang; electoral base of tbe Congress which is the situation Mr. Dinesh Goswami wants to vote bank covers all communities and not convince Mr. Shahabuddin tbat by reducing particularly one or two communities. That from 3 to 2 will not alter the situation for the minorities adversely. Mr. Shahabuddin is wbat I said. is not getting convinced. I don't get con- PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: You ate • vinced. YOo.l say that it is improving tbe very senior Member and we have all respect situation. But you have not improved the for you but you referred to a particular situation. The High Court is saying that there are already powers relating to High constituency and that was not in a aood taste because you are a senior aacl wile Courts. What do Y.)U gain by specifically Member. You said tbat barassment ... bceD mentioning that HIgh Courts will not have there and it will not be allowed. TbeD. jurio;diction. These are the amendments. I Sbri Zainul Basber said tbat .. cautioo- feel that by amendment.. you have institut- baa ed the Central Govemmeul OD two tlonalised harassment. by giving the powers thiop and that is that tile av;UMDeDt to the -Superintendent of Police for the first CeaIJal should not feel the ~ 01 AGP time. WIde ranging powers are given without JIIJP. itself is under our pressure. eaaaot any restriction. There is no logic in this. So. ,. You don't explain anything in the Aims and surrender to pressure. 1'beftfoIe. J feel convinced that there iI DO need of Objectives that you have narrated here. Why thiI amendment, i.e. sub-section 2 of Sectioa I are you arming the Superintendent of Police of the principal Act aod it should be deleted. with these pllwers 7 What wl1\ the Superin- If the Minister is so eager to rusb throop tendent of Police do? ·He wiJI bave the tbe Bill and set it pa< sed, which he po do. power to arrest witbout giving any reason tben I would request him to bind the and if Mr. Chidambaram will agree-because Superintendent of PoHce, wbolD they are I feel tnat he will pass this Bill whatever the siving a lot of powers. tbat be ...... if the amount of argument we will put fOlward. circumstances warrant bim to aen:iIe power. So far as the Superintendent of Police is give in writing as to.by Iae ... eaten tbe con.cerned, be would add 'provided that tbe particular action. circumstances warranting such an action shan be recorded in writing·, That is not there. So, by amendment I would suggest SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY (Alipurduan) : to add a provison and say that the circum- Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. J wonder the stances warranting such action shall be wisdom of brinling tbis ameDdment BiU. recorded in writing This is Section (t 3) The people are not asking for tbe citizenship and you can add this proviso there. Since. of Assam. if I am correct. They arc askina I have promised to be brief, I will not make for the Indian citizensbip. Tbe Central a long speech. Very fine speeches have been Government bas the power to de<:ide as to made by Mr. Bipin Pal Das, Mr. Dinesh who are the foreigneR and who are not. Ooswami and Shri Shababuddin. I feel that The power has been liven to tbe Stat. it is a very delicate problem. Among many Government of A$sam which baa created other things, Sbri Bipin Pal Das had said fear in abe minds of tbe minority people that tbat be bas a suspicion that harassment will there may be some harassment. I would like be tbere. If .be proccedjnss bave sone on to say tbat Assam is not for Assamesc 0DI7. .,1 Dice' MlgrGllt. MAR.CH 29, 1988 rllSlal A/WrlJteU 292 (Determination by Tribunals) (Determillatioll by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill ·For huodred of ,cars many outsiders are hundreds of years and who cODtrib"ted a livina tbere and they havo made a lot of 101 to the State's wealth. But the Assam .contributions for the State. They are not Government has Dot given recognition to troated as tbe second-class citizens of Assam. these tribaJs who are still in Madhya Thoy have the equal rights as those of the Pradesh. Bibar, Chota Nagpur and other citizens of India. If the people of Assam places. You must really see their reaction. .have tbe right to keep tbe cultural and They feel that the Government will get linguistic traditions, then tbe otber people imbalanced if these tribals were to be given also have the right to keep their religious recognition. I really do not understand how aod linguistic traditions So, tbe Govern- the Government can be imbalanced. If some ment must be careful about it. No commu- tribal become the Chief Minister of a State, nity can be harassed on account of the does the Government of India get im~alanc· language it speaks or the kind of culture it ed? I do not really understand this sort has. Tbe Central Government should give of an attitude. There must be somebody tbem the guarantee that they will not be to rule or govern a State. But is it necessary harassed on these accounts. It is the duty that Assam should be governed only by of the Central Government to see that Assamese and nobody else and Bengal should no community is harassed by any Slate be ruled by Bengalis alone and so on and Government. so forth? Does our Constitution allow such things? As Indians, we all have equal This Bill is a cowardy Bill. You are rights and these equal rights must be pro- feeJing sby with the Government of Pakistan t~cted by the Central Government only. and Bangladesh. It is your duty to talk WIth the Government of Bangladesh as to why Therefore Sir, I say tbat tbis Bill disturbs people from their part, from their territory, the entire Irdian people. All the States are are coming over here, But you are not going to get disturbed because of this Bill. discussing it with them and instead al~owing If Assamese are to think of Assamese alone the people to come over bere. In this way, and feel that everybody else other than Y"U are neglecting your duties. It is your Assamese are foreigners and if this type of duty to talk with tbe G Jvemment of Bangla- ideas go 00 dod spread elsewh~e too, then desh and Pakistan as to why people from the minm ities everywhere in the country their territory are coming over here. So, be will feel greatly di'\turbed. That is why, I harsh with them otherwise, you canDot run request you to send this Bill for the consi- the Government. It is not the question of deration of a Select Committee comprising . people of Assam; the Government is respon- members of both the Houses. Let the sible (or it. They cannot encourage the members of the Select Committee meet . people to come over here and stay bere. various people, find out their opinion and In my constituency, still 4000 people wbo then come to a considered decision. are outsiders. are living there. Nobody IS taking care of tbem. lhe Central Govern- ment is not giving them any help. The State SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI (Adilabad) : Government is pres8unsmg the Central Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I stand to speak briefly in support of this Bill. Sir, our party Government to see to it. After all it is the duty of Central GGv.!rnment to see ,hat hao; supported the Assam Accord and many J)Cople do not come to our country from other parties have supported the Accord outside. too. This Bill is claimed to be in consonp.nce with the spirit of the Accord. though it does not go too far. But Sir, I am surprised at The main que~tion is that the economy should nol be disturbed. By bringing this tbe way the debate is going on in this House. Two Congressmen spoke on the Bitl before tbe Parliamentary, t feel that Bill but I do not know whether they have you want to disturb the communi.y there supported the Bill or opposed it. and you ako want to disturb the Gonrn- meat there. Because of tbis Bill, there is SHR.I BIPIN PAL DAS: have IGing to be iDtecurity amonl the miDoritiet- supported it. I said so very clearly. tbe lioluistic minorities and other minorities and more especially amo I tbe tea garden SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI: Well, as triba1., wbo are workins in tbe State for can be seeD ftom the speech. ),ou bave not ~9S Illegal Migrant. CHAITRA 9. 1910 (SAKA) Illegal MilWJnb ~94 (Determination by Tribunals) Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill supported the amendments of the Bill. You supports tbe Amendment. Anyway I was bave not supported a single amendment. hearing the speech made by my load friend You said ultimately tbat you supported tbe Shri Zainul Basher. He wu l1tJtP01'tiDl tile Bill. I really do not know as to whose baby Accord but not the Bill. He _id: ··why this Bill is. Whose baby are you bolding, are you giving these powers to police Mr. Chidambaram? It Jooks as tboug1] you people 1" Perhaps his anger is agaialt an are likely to ditch your baby at the earliest Amendment relating to Section 20 or Section opportunity and throw it it'to the dustbin. 2 I of the Act. They are absolutely harmJas I say this because I do not see any political Amendments. 1 do not see any realon wby witt to support the amendments of the Bill anybody should read too much into this on the part of the Treasury Benches. Why? thing tbat the fundamental rights are being Is it because yoU have no political will in taken away from the citizens of this country. the implementation of the Accord ? FIrst of all, it is notbing to do witb our citizens, with our triba)s or with our minorities going from other States. Our SARI BIPIN PAL DAS: Please do people are tbere from Andhra Pradesh. I not distort, Mr. Madbav Reddi! We have have seen a lot of peopJe are tbere in Assam. given on; hundred per cent surport for tbe They are very bappy. There is no qoarrel Btli. agamst the minorities coming from any part of the country. Actually it is against the SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Were you migrants or against the people wbo are Dot there when he spoke yesterday? our nationals. Why don't you understand thl"? May be that you have some sym- SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: Yes. I pathies with those foreign migrants. That js was not only present ID the House when be dJ1ferent, I do not know. spoke, but I absorbed it entirely. Wbile he said that he was supporting the B·lI, he SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Perbaps opposed all tbe amendments. your friend Sbri Somnatb Chatterjee should be here to bear tbis. SHRI BIPIN PAL OAS: I have saId that the amendments are just minor changes. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: Well. fflends or foes. I do not see any difference. SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI: I referred to wbat you said. You have said that the~e Sir. in detecting foreign nationals, amendments are minor amendments and certain procedures have to be laid down. There were certain difficulties in the implc* frivolous amendments. mentation of tbe Illegal Migrants Act. It is a SHRI BJPJN PAL DAS: I dId not use fact. It is very obvious. It is because if you the word 'frivolous'. I have said that I deal with foreigners in any other State you supported all the amendments. They are go to Foreigners Act. What is tbere in the just minor cbanges. That was what I said. Forei~ners Act ? In the Foreigners Act, the burden of proof is on the foreigners, on tbe (Interrupt ;OltS) man who has been accused and not on the State. Here, this Bil1 is a very-very mild SHRI BIPIN PAL DAS: I said, the Bill. It is an innocuous Bill. The burden Bill is a minor Amendment because It does of proof is on tbe State Government. The not bring about any fundamental cbange in Tribunal bas to determine that he is a tbe basic structure of tbe main Act. There- foreigner. I feel in the speech which was fore I said it is minor and I support it. made by Sbri Dinesh Goswami. he made Nobody sbo~ld object to it. This 1S v. bat a very strong case in favour of the Bill. I I ba ve said. I never used tbe word do not tbink there is any need for me to 'frivolous'. I am very sorry you used that go into all those aspects. I support the spirit word. with whicb be appealed to the Government to see that this Bill is passed and also it is SHRI C. MADHAV REDDl: I am implemented and any other impediment in very bapp)' now tbat be clarifies that be tbe enforcement of fhe BiU must be remo~ ~t~ JJkgal Milranll MAACH 29•• 988 IIkgal Mlgranls 19~ (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt.Bi/l Amdt Bill I have all praise for the Government of the Tho Government, bas reduced the 10UGI people who had come to power in number of judges from three to two out of Astam. Any insinuations made against them, which one will 'be from Assam and the otber .aaaios, their Government or against tbeir aD out-sider. It is absolutely wrona. There attitude or &piOlt die style of functioning must be at least three judges. Though it is of that Government are uncalled for. I think an established fact tbat whatever Bills or we mould support tbat Government. amendments will be brought \)y tbe Govern- Boc:ouraae them. Otherwise, why is it tbat ment, will be adopted in tbis House, but it 001, ISO or 160 people have been deported will be an injustice to tbe minorities of 10 far 'l In the last two years what is tbe A,sam. There are no two opinions tbat total number of people wbo bave been minorities of Assam have already been deIocted and finaJly deported? Such a wronged. I. therefore, oppose tbe Bill and II1I8I1 number of people have been deported request tbe Hon. Minister of State in tbe so far. Wby are tbey making so much hue Ministry of Home Affairs to reconsider the and cry apinst this? Tbe Assam Govern- amendments. ment is very fair in dealing with this problem. I do not tbink we can accuse them [Engll.sh] of beina chauvinistic. I do Dot see tbeir cbauvillistic attitude in this. SHRI G,M. BANATWALLA (Ponnanj): I apport this Bdl. I hope that without Sir, J rise in total opposition to tbis ..,. Ameodmeat this BIU will be passed. Amending Bill. J strongly plead witb tbe Government and witb this House to realize (7'''''''d,,.j tbe fact that the amendments incorporated in this Bill will turn tbe principal Act of 1983 SHIlI'MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN into an instrument of a oppression, fear and (Stab): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I oppose lawlessness. dais Bill and the amendment. As has been aid by Sbri Madhav Reddy, Shri Basber No one is against detection of foreigners. aDd Ski Bipin did not support tbe Bill J The Hon. Member. Shri Dinesh Goswami appreciate their feelmp. The views expressed need not wax eloquent on that parttcular ." Sbri Zainul Basber on this Bill and tbe aspect; and tbe Hon. Member Shri Madhav ameadmeats are absolutely correct. Only Reddi must understand tbat the point being .. 1NUCI' knows wbere t be sboe pinches. raised here is with respect to tbe persecution The miDoritia in that State realise tbe tbat is being launched, that is going on difticulties tbey hive to pass tbrougb's J, under tbe pretext of detection of foreigners . . tllercfore, feci tbat the Allam Accord was The Bill will open the flood-gates for the .ot a riPt step. It bal not been implemen- barassment of tbe genuine citizens. The ted. Sbri Zainul Basher bas drawn a true point that must be understood is that the picture of tbe situation prevailing tbere. provisions are being so callously relaxed that Ey_ tboulb be beJonp to tbe ruling party, they w iII open the door to the persecution be ... come out with tbe truth. I appreciate of tbe poor, to the persecution of the bIa feeliDp. Shri Madbav Reddi said tbat minorities, to the prosecution of tbe very it is tbe duty of tbe State Governmcut to peop!e who have already been subjected to fiad out as to who are tbe migrants and inhuman atrocities. These are the realities wbere from bad they come. Shri Zainul of the situation. One can, therefore, only Baber made a valid point that bow to prove say that the present, intended, .mending tbe ..reat. of a cbild. B,ll is nothing but a law for the harassment of those who have already been barassed The wa, the Government ia deleptina a lot. ,_,.. to tbe Superinteodcnt of Police in tIIat State it absolutel, wronl. We know ,..... our daily ezperiaace 10 Uttar Pradesb The principal Act of 1 983 was put tllat bow tbe Polioe commitl acessel. There- on the Statute with tbe solemn assurancc tbat fore, we can very well imqioe tbe type 01 it represented a balance, throuah its in .. Jit_ttoa tbal trill be created iD Auam built safeguards. Thlt is wbat tbe then .... , Homo Mmittel', Mr. P.C. Setbi iakt ia our 291 111.601 Migrant, cttAltkA 9. 1910 (SAKA) llk6aJ Migrant. 2tt (Determination by Tribunals) (Determina/;o. hy Tribunal.) Amdt Bill. Arndt. Bill House-I quote from the Lok Sabba December. 1983. as follows: I am quodna Debates of ISth December 1983. at column from tbe Lok Sabba Debates, col. :3 8' : 367 : "Tbe government bas struck a balaDCC we have ellsured tbat tbe by providing this limit of 3 km interests of minorities are also safe- between tbese two extreme views- guarded, and tbere is no undue one view SU88cstiog tbat there should barassment to· any minority groups be no restriction at all. and the wbile eDsuring the detection and other view sugesting a restriction." expulsion of the post-19 71 migrants." So, this restrictioD with respect to 3 Itm Now all that balance is being destroyed. was not arbjtrary and unca)(;ulated restriction imposed. I t was a solemn assurancc aiven Now all these safeguards are being to this House tbat tbis restriction with jettjsoned. Jt is to this tbat tbe objection respect to 3 km represented a balance, a and a strong protest IS being raised. balance witb a view to see tbat there is no harassmeot. Tbe Hon. Minister. Sbri P. Cbidam- baram, bas been kiDd enough to edumbrate Witb respect to the number of judaes the cbanges tbat are sought to be introduced. on tbe tribunal. we were, once again, told Sbri BIPID Pal Das bas very lightly 5aid iD this House by the then Home Minilter, tbat tbey are mlDor cbanges. BUl th~se very Sbri P.C. Setbi. points were highlighted in the House as tbe salient lealures of the Act of 1983. J3.49 brI. These very POlDtS in the words of tbe Manister. Sbri P. Cbldambaram blmself. were [SHRI SOMNATH RATH i" 1M Chair] planted in tbls Hou~e as the sahent features. quote from tbe Lok Sabba Debates as tbe cardinal features of tbe Act. These dated 14.12.1983, col. 437. He IBid a. included. among others. ( stlpulallOn 1) follows: regardmg the area from which a compldint can be Jodged against aUedged immigrants; U) paymeDt of tees for such complaints; "Witb a view to ensure tbat the (3) tbe number of members on each machinery commands confidence of aD tribunal; (4) revision of authority of tbe concerned, it is provided in the Bill High Court. J would bke to remJDd tbe that the Appellate Tribunal shall Hon. Minister. Shri P. Chidambaram. that consist of not less than 3 and not he bimseJf bad said here 10 tbis House on more tban 6 members." 2nd December, 1987 tbat it would be unfair to tamper with these cardinal features. Therefore. let it be known that these are 1 ask him to read bis own speech in tbis not minor changes, tbe features of the Houae on the 2nd December, J9b7. Tbe Principal Act of 1'983 which were flaunted Hon. Minister, ~bf1 1'. Chidambaram, was bere as tbe cardinal features of the Act kindly enougb to quote The Sialellman in are today beinl in a cavalier and callous this very House pointing out tbat these fashion presented as minor features and are were the cardinal features. TheD be said in being jettisoned. the Lok Sabba on 2nd December. 1 987 Sir, "hy are tbe Dumber of judles from as follows: I quote from col. 309. tbe Tribunal beina reduced? How does it •'Independent opinion also supports smoothen detection of the foreigncn? It Cenual Government -position. It bas already been pointed out that if you would be unfair to tamper witb the reduce the number from three to two and cardiaal features of the Act." if those two judps differ, the matter lOCI to another Tribunal. This is not at all Suddenly. all these cardinal features are smootbening of tbe f~tions but then heioa liven a by. The then Home creating more and more difficulties, apart ,0 f~t Minister, Shr i I) ,C. Setbi, said on 1,tb from tbe tbat the 6aute tbree wat 2t' lilqa/ M;,nu.11 MARCH 29. 1988 Illegal Mil/rats (ihtermination by TribulIl#s) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill .. a&l M'bitrary figure iacorporatcd in the baseless propa.andft and you arc encouraging principal Act. Such people by the attitude that is heiDI taken of surrender. despicable surrender to It must be understood that tbere is no those forces of chauvinism. paucit, of the judges also. The Hon. Minister Sbri P. Cbidambaram himself bad told us The Bill therefore represents a be traya} in this House and I quote bim from the of tbe bapless and a surrender, total surren- Lot Sabba Inbates for tbe 2nd April, 1987, der, to chauvinist forces. column 3tl3 : " ••. We were able to identify t 8 What do the figures IDdicate? And we judges from outside Assam to man the have here the figures the t are being played Tribunals; 1 8 judges were found inside witb; The fact is tbat 4.79,890 inqulfles Assam to man the Tribunals. We set were initiated. Out of tbis total figure up 20 functioning tribunals. What has 3,67.057 inquiries were initiated under the happened in the last few months? Foreigners' Act of 1946. And 1,12.€33 Everyono of these 18 outside judges has inquiries were iOltiated under the JlJegal been. so to say. encouraged to leave MIgrants (Determination by Tribunals) Act after the end of his tenure. There was of 1983. Sir, out of 3.67,057 inquiries no effort to request them to stay on initiated under the Foreigners' Act, 2,24,7jO after tbe end of the in;tlal tenure and inq uiries were completed; only 19.253 cases continue the work. Everyone of tbe were referred to tribunals; and only 2.695 18 judges has lone now. And of tbe persons were declared foreigners. This does insiders, tbe 18 judges from Assam. not show tbe caution with which they are six have been released. Today. tbere working. On tbe contrary, it shows the are only 12 judges manning four vendetta witb wbicb the inquiries are being functioning tribunals.·' initiated wit bout any basis wbatsoever against the minorities and the hapless You will find, therefore, tbat there was people. no paucity as sucb of judges to be found to man the tribunals. Tbere was no polttical will Sir, under tbe Illegal Migrants Tribunal on the part of the Government of Assam Act. 1,12,833 mquiries were lDitiated for to see that these tribunals may function detection of post 197 1 infiltrators and as properly. many as 68.916 inquiries were completed. But again, how many inquiries Were referred The cordinal features of the principal to the tribunal? 8.908. How many were Act cannot be amended in such a callous declared jllegal migrants? Only 72 i. Ju~t manner only to suit the political exigencies understand the level. and the intensity of of auy party tbat may be in power in the persecution. Out of 1.12,833 irquiries are State of Assam. The Amendment Bill is initiated under tbis Act, hardly 727 persons the out come, not of the genuine convictions were found to be illegal . migrants. This of the Hon. Minister of the Central Govern- shows the vendetta with which the work is ment. 1 curse that tbe Bill represents a loing on. This shows tbe prejudice and despicable surrender to the forces of the persecution of the genuine citizens of chauvinism. These arc bound to have very Assam. serious consequences. They are already _viol serious consequence encouraged by .-ucb aD attitude of the Government, forces Mr. Chairman Sir, tbis fact has to be bave become acti¥e in severa) States. Even taken into account while you are relaxing to Bomba" a HIP member is carrying on a tbe various provisions. The provisions of :rekados! eampailn ,bat names of a large tbe principal Act of 1983 and this amending uw.ber of foreigners bave entered the Act must be viewed in the context of tho electoral roll. in Bombay. And very shame- situation in Assam. It is a sad state of ~y without aoy basis whatsoever, tbe affair. aod a sad comment to make thai electoral roll. of preponderantly Muslim tbe chauvinist fon:cs in Assam are well tMalitin haw beaI presented. It i.. entrenched. 301 111~lal Migrants CHAITRA 9 1910 (SA (Determination by Tribunals) , llA)(D l~ltl~ Mlgrant~ 3e~ Amdt. Bill etermmatr.on by Tnbu1lDls-) Amdt. Bill Sir, while the alOnizing experience is Not to talk about punishing the perpetrators, that local police has harassed minorIties ~e ,find that even the casel that were under the preted of detection and has ln~tltuted against the perpetratoJ's of tDe subjected them to inhuman atrocities the cnme, have all been withdrawn and tbose Bill adds only salt to injury. Wider p~wers arrested are free men today. Sucb is the are given to polite. Power is given to senior situation. police officers to bind tbe person, to seek bonds from them and on their failure to I have bad tbe occasion to 10 to A!SaDl execute bonds to the satisfaction of the and talk to the people over tbe(e. "'[be police. to even arrest them. Tbese powers villagers of Nellie aUege tbat they were' paid are being given notwithstanding tbe pro- Rs. 5000 a family as compensation but tbe villions of any law in force. The provisiJns attackers, wbo were killed by CRPF, were of all laws in force in our civilized nation are declared martyrs, and their families weN being tbrown to wind. 11 is specifically paId Rs. 35.000 by tbe State GovernO"lent. provided in the amending Bill that notwithst- anding what is given in any law in force. This is such wide powers are hereby being given. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: totally wrong. I therefore say that this is a conspiracy to turn the entire State of Assam into Police Raj. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Tbese are the facts of the situation I do Dot yield. I hereby emphatically demand that the powers regarding detection be withdrawn from the local police and the Government of And then we are being told that with India itself should take up the direct responsi- all the tongue ID the check that tbere is no bility of detection through its o ..... n exhibItIon whatsoever of chauvinistic sentiments. Genuine people from minorities machinery. and tribal reSidents of Assam are being 14.00 brs. harassed by poliCies like making Assamese as a compulsory language at primary School Sir. I have already submitted that the level. large scale eviction of landless peasants, prOVisions should '1e viewed Jn the context eVIctIOn forCibly even by armed gaanlS tbat of the Clituation 1'1 Assam. What is the are tbere. That is the situation that is going situation? on There are discriminatory policies that are bemg followed in emplo),meot. There Look at the manner 10 which tbe things are IDhuman conditions being laid witb are going on. Ac;;ording to Lok Sabha respect to the is<;ue of domicile certificates. Question No. 383 dated 22 December, These are all black records, unfortunate 1987, 3637 foreigners have been expelled records of the State Government of Assam ... since the Assam accord upto September, 8'. ( Interruption) Now, the spe.;ifh.: question was: Whether they were handed over to the Bangla Desb Government or not and what was their SHRI D1NESH GOSWAMI : I am on a position. And the repl) was that these point of order .. (lnre,.,uption6) foreigners were simply pu<;bed across the border. That is the consideration being SHRI G M. BANATWALLA: Nobody given. That is tbe inhuman manner in here can browbeat me . (IntetrUplions) which the" hole problem 15 being viewed that these were simply nushed acro<;s tht: ~HR 1 DINESH GOSWAMI: I do not border without any C'oQ'IiderJtion wh.·tsoever expect anything better from the Member who to the buman aspect of the wh01e problem. represent~ a communal party (IlIt~,,,up,;o,,,) When such is the <;ituation. then the need is that the safeguard<; in the Act be further MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. strengthened rather than being allowed to be washed away. SHRl G. M. BANATWALLA: 1 was, therefore, submitting that the need of the Look at the position in Assam, Five four is to further strengtben tbe various years have passed since the Nellie massacre. !03 Illegal M/grtlftu MARCH 29, 1988 1UelOl~" ~04 (Determination by Tribnnals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt Bill safeguards tbat are there in the Act. is a systematic attempt to forcibly dislodge (r"te"upIlOll') Let the pressing need be the families belonging to tbe linguistic and realised. That is the situation. religious minorities. As I have submitted, it is strange now Sir, tbis is the Bill which will causo tbat the Governmnnt bas come forward buman misery; tbis is tbe Bill wbicb will aaainst its own convictions and come forward harass the genuine citizens of India wbo are witb tbis Amending Bill. They do not find staying in AS'8m: and this is the Bill which supporters even among the Congress peorle will create a police raj and amount to tbe who speak. Strangely, their supporters are total surrender to the chauvin istic forces. from the AGP and tbe Teluau Desam. This Bill. tberefore i, a grave injU5tice tbat is heiDI done. This Bill represents dereliction Before 1 go to this Bill in detail. I would ot duty (/"terl'up',ons). They cantt stifle like to quote the figures that were supplied my voice, Sir. You ask them to behlVe and already quoted by Mr. Banatwalla. properly in tbe HoUle. They can't stifle my This is from tbe Lot Sabbs Starred Question voice. (/nt~,uPliOIU). No. 38' dated 2nd December J 987. The answer to parts (a) and (b) to this question says: MR. CH4IRMAN: Please conclude. (8) According to the State Government SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: They 36':\ 7 foreigners have been expelled do not have tbe courage to face the truth. from Assam since the Assam Tbey bave bad tbeir say in the matter. I, Accord up to September, 1987. conclude by saying that tbe Bill represents a (h) Upto September 1987. 15292 dereliction of duty. (8 term borrowed from ca"es had been referred t<' the tbe Hon. Minister. Shri Cbtdambaram Foreigntrs Tribunals and 8094 himself) tbat tbe Bill repre;ents tbe derelic- cases referred to the Illegal Migrants tion -of duty on tbe part of the Central (Determination) Tribunals Government to safeguard tbe interests of tbese bapless minorities and genuine citizens. (I.terrllption. ). Sir. according to the "two years old A~sam accord," I think Mr. Dinesh Goswami will not oppose to it, tbe num )~r 0 Witb these words. Sir, I strongly oppose inquiries initiated, 2,86,596 ... every clause or this Bill. SHRI ATAUR RAHMAN (Barpeta): SHRf DINESH GOS W AMI: These are What about the Parti lion of India '? the figures given by us. (/nle"lIPtlonJ). SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Yes, MR. CHAIRMAN: Please ordor. Mr. in Two years Assam accord. Amar Roypradban. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: We have given tbese figures. MR. CHAIRMAN: Except Mr. Amar SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Yes. Roypradban, nothing will go on record. It it clear from these figures how many people bave been harassed. After their (Intel rupllon.)* * names came in the list the police will run to those people and they will a~k many que!- SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN (Cooch tio" and in this way they harass tbe Bebar): Mr. Cbairman, I would like to linguistic minorities and the religious oppose this 'llIeaal Migrants (Determanation minorities (/nterruptlon$). bJ Tribunals) Amendment Bill. This Bill SaRI DI~ESH GOSW AMJ; Tbe •• Not recorded. Problem i8, everybody say.. We are alliDlt !05 IU.al Mlgrll1lt, CHA1TllA 9. 19'0 (SAICA) nkltll J/lpMtl "' (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by TribUIUJl1j Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill foreigners, we want them to be deported, categories aDd fulfil your required but don't do anything. If you do something, monthly quota, i.e. 10 cases- AiD a we are opposed to it ••• (lnterruptlonl). month as per instruction referred to 8 bove. besides your normal aJlotteci SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: We duties. this will reftect in your ACR are opposed to roreigners. The ilJegal accordingly, which may please tie migrants. noted." (l11terruptlon6). SHRT DINESH GOSWAMI : You are MR. CHAIRMAN: You please con- opposed to anything done by the clude. Goyernment. (Interruptions). SHlU AMAR ROYPRADBAN : It ~ SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Sir. rightly said yesterday by Sbri Som~ bow tbe foreigners were treated? They bave Chatterjee about tbe commitments made by given many powers to the police. How the Pandit Jawabar1al Nehru and Sardar Patel poJice are working jn tbe Assam area? and Mabatma Gandhi. Wby those commit- ments have been made? I agree with Sflri Sir, with your permission I am quoting Bipin Pal Das that tbere was tbe Aet of t a letter. The subject of this letter is: 1950 regarding Assam Illegal Migrants. llu. I would like to know, whether it was execut- "Implication of Assam Accord-submis- ed at tbat time? (In1eTruptio1lS). Wu it sion of JJlegal Migrants (Determina- properly executed. no. Because of tbis fact, tion) Tribunal Act cases as well as I would like to draw your attention to the detection of fOI eigners under 1966-71 b:>okJet Rehabilitation by P. N. Luth~, and post 1 971 streams thereof." 25th Anniversary of Independence Series, Publications Division, Government of IDdia. "This office Memo. Nos. (B) IAA! J 972. In that report, it bas been sta.. : 86/667-707, dated 25th March, 1986 and SiNo. (B) I1A/R6/1504- Tbe refugee influx from East Pakistan in 21. dated 7.6.1986. West Bengal is '39.~6 000 In other Stata, itis 13,27,000. Tota1 comes to 52.83,000. " In this connection, it is to be noted Before N~hru Liaquat Pact in April, 1950, that you have thoroughly been briefed abtfut 40 lakh rerugees entered into Indi•• through detailed discussion OD this particular Where are tbey sta)'jn~? 75 per cent Of nature of work and you have been asked to tbem have gone to West Bengal; 13 per cent submit at least • 0 cases, if not more in each to Assam. In Assam, it is only 13 per cent. month. I G P. (B). Assam, Guwahati and 10 per cent d tbem have gone to Tripara D.I.G.P. (S.R.) Assam. Sllcbar has taken and 2 per cent bave lone to otber States serious view on the performance of the staff in India. of this district as a whole. Tbere is also the repOrt about the refuaee In view of above. I wou1d like to remind families according to type proof: you once again that unless you sbow improvement in submitting cases under Citizenship cc;rtificate 1.1% I.M. (D)T (Interruptions) Migration certificate 5.1% Optce Govt. servant 1~% MR. CHAIRMAN: No cross-talking. Refugee Relistration 35.9% Let him say. certificate Border Slip SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN It Border Ration Card further says : Certified copy of NRC "Unless you show improvement in submittins cases under I.M. (D)T. in Total: detectioD of /orcipcrs UDder tbe above S" Migrllllt' MAR.CH 29, t 988 II1~a' Mlera"t, 308 (DeterminationII.' hy Trihunals) (Determination hy Trihunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill About the rest. namely 55.3 per cent, cular State. From that time, Assam has there is no proof furnished to them. These seen the influx of linguistic minorities. Now 55.3 per cent people. Staying in Assam the minorities are taken to Assam with a would be the worst sufferers. If you talk different aim. Sometimes tbey are trying to about me that I am also refugee I have to create a differentism in Assam. It is not a show the proof, otherwise I will be treated as design only against Assam but against the foreigner what will happen? Is it whole of India. Not only Assam but the whole so '1 If I ask you" Are you from Bangla- North Eastern States are going to be grabbed desh 1" Can you prove only with your by that ism. When A~sam accord is signed name? This is the condition of the people. and the Illegal M jgrants Act is going to be It was mentioned in the report itself. By amended against their evi) design. they are this Bill, we are comming to this percentage going sgainst it, it was detected by the of population, those who have no certificate Assamese people in the pear 1979 and they to prove and they like to evict all these are fighting against it and, therefore, all people whether they are Jinguistic minoritits linguistic minorities, religi(\us minorities, or religious minorities, Anyway. it is not a infiltrated into Assam from foreign States. question of culture. Your culture is Auamese are fighting to grab Assam by all possible culture. These are different cultures through- means. Therefore, these things should be out India, Bengali culture, Assami culture, tsken into consideration. Sir, J am a Muslim. Punjabi culture and Oriya culture, With all I belong to Assam. I know better the inter- these cultures, India is one. (lnterruption,s) ests of the Muslim people of Assam. Not a single Muslim is harassed in Assam. Not a MR. CHAIRMA"C: let the H on. single minority community person is harassed Member speak. .. (Inte,.ruptions). Had there been any such harassment, would have been the first man from Assam I toplace the matter before the SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : In the House. Statement of Objects and Reasons, you have mentioned that the fees sbould be less, In- stead of Rs. 25/-. it should be Rs lOr· Wbv is this done when the price index is Sir. there jc; a2itation in Boat Club by goi~g up? At that time, you were advertis- the interested political parties :llJegmg harass· ing that there were many complaints and ment of minorities. But there is not a people should come up with less fee. In this single agitation in Assam. There is no particular case, it should be minimum Rs. latbi·charge. There is nothing of this sort. 100/- so tbat many people may not file But what is going on the whole of the cases. Previously, the jurisdiction was within country except Assam? 3 km. Now, going to a 'potice station means 100 km. If it is so. tben, anybody Finany, would like to make only one can make this complaint and the number of I point. There has been communal agitation frivolous apolications wi1l be more and It in other places But in Assam, during J 983, will help the Police in taking bribes. I there was a disturbance in between the pro- oppose tbis Bill. (Interruption,) ele:tionists and the anti-electionists and that was not a commural disturbance in Assam. SHRI SAIFUDDIN AHMED (Mang}l- This all I want to say. dai). Sir, there was an attempt to make A,sam a linguistic minority province by tbe British wben Sir Syed lSadulla became the SHRIMATI D. K. BHANDARI Prime Minister in Assam. The Act of I 935 (Sikkim): Sir, this Bm is against the inter- was passed by British Parliament by dint of ests of the millions of people who have been which Sir Syed Sadutla became the Prime living in Assam for generations and who Minister of A~sam and he was Mudim have come after 1947. While I do appre- League leader, He took many reJi.;oUl ciate the feelings of the Assamese people for minorities from Bengal by creating line their protection, preservation and promotion system. By creating tbis line sYlltem, all the of tbeir cultural, social and linguistic identity wasteland of Assam was covered by all the and heritage of AS5amese people, I also feel rcli~iou, cum-Ur.,uistic minorities of a parti- that utmost caution should be taken wbile 3b9 J/~gal Migrant! CifAITRA 9.1910 (SAKA) Illegal Mfgranl6 JiO (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunall) Arndt . .8ill Arndt. Bill determining tbe illegal mlarants and no one Here, J would like to request tbe sbould be subjected to barassment by tbe • Government to come out with clear cut chauvnistic elements. I am saying tbis polley to differentiate these people as to who because several times we receive report from are the Indian Nepalese and as to who arc Assam of harassment perpetrated on mino- the people wbo have come from Nepal under raties by sucb elements. this Indo-Nepal Treaty. This misunderstand- ing bas already created .. a problem in Gorkbaland who are asking Gorkhaland as Sir, tbe Government should be clear in a separate entity in Darjeeling. (Interruption.) tbeir minds and policies as to who are tbe people tbey are go 109 to differentiate or determine as illegal migrants. Who are then Tberefore, there should be a clear policy targets? Take tbe case of Nepalese-speaking of the Central Government so that no people in Assam. Nepalese speaking mino- genuine Indian citizen should be subjected to nty people are bemg baras~ed not only in sucb harassment by such tribunab. In that Assam but in Megbalaya aJso. A few montbs case, tbat will be a grave injustice to the back, large number of peopJe were uprooted people not only injustice but that will be from tbelr bomes. Tbey are sull in tbe most humiliatmg to those people, who are rofugee camps in and around Sbillong. In proud to protect their motherland gallantly. tbe name of Nepalese from Nepal. Nepali No one can deny it. More tban once, I --speak 109 people, genulOe, Indian citizens suggest that utmost caution should be takn are also belDg harassed. They are bemg to avoid misgivings, and feeling of insecurity uprooted in tbelr own country and in their in the mmds of the people in their own 'Own homeland. It IS a serious matter. But country. I bope with tbe change In the Jeadershlp in Megbalaya also, tbey will take stringent steps SHRI ABDUL HAMID (Dhubri): Sir, not only to rehabilitate these people but also I op,).Jse tbis BJll because we are the targets, to protect their lives and property also. In we the minorities in Assam are the targets Assam, the Nepalese-speaking people are of'tbe Bill. In the name of Assam Accord, subjected to undue harassments .. (Inlerrup- tbe mmorities of Assam are harassed. Tbere.. tltJnSI. Yes. thiS IS a fact. (lnlerruprzonl). fore tbe minorities in Assam are not On a large scale, the names of bonafide acce~ting any amendment or any law passed voters were deleted. Even the family members by the House because in the name of Assam of freedom fighters were also affected. More Accord, there are so many people who are tban 200l) Nepale$e-speakmg people were facing human problems. 111egally, lots of served with notices by one of the students people have been deleted from the votors' organisations. They have issued the notice list. They are unable to enltst their names in the local language. That notice says in the votors' list even now. The Central "From the Accord-that is tbe Assam Government and tbe State Government has Accord-with the Pfime Minister we have not taken any action for the enlistment of been convinced that you are a foreigner and their names in the votors' list. In the name so you are not eligible to ca:it vote even lD of Assam Accord, near about one lakh the elections of cooperative society". Sir. people have become homeless and hearthless once this Bill is passed and enacted, cases by way of eviction as encroachment by the of such harassment will incr.ase manifold. suspected foreigners. StilI, they are living I am not blaming the AGP or the Students under disguise. Neither State Government tbere. But it is due to the lack of a clear- nor Central Government is taking any cut polh;y on the part of the Central Govern- decision for their survival. ment that tbis harassment is increasing. This barassment has been increasing. The Govern- ment of India and the Hon. Minister also We arc a minority people of Assam. must be aware that in India, there are Several times. we have met the Prime Minis· Nepalese who are equal citizens and tbey are ter. We have submitted several memoranda proud of their country and motherland. to the Prime Minister and to Shri B~Jta Sinah Th:re are other Nepalese also who have about the prevailing situation in Assam. come to India under the Protection of Indo· Some Hon. Members have stated tbat n;Uno- ~cpll Treat)'. Article 7, ~~t~C$ have DOt been harassed by tllia A~~ _.t t'''';~, 'lreta/~' ~i~ (~..",r_i01l 'by TriblUlals) (Determination liy Trillutuzls) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill ...... 11Iappeeed in Atsam 'I One cab go KUmar Pau), son of late Bagala Moban Paut ..... ,~ of Gobindapally. Hojal Town, P.S. 80jal, .. Dist. Napon was deported througb Gop.'- lti 1biJ D'IliDC of bOtdbr road and fencing. ganj Border on 3rd August, 1987. No JDMT ie·1tiail;WmiUt:'S ba~ been ~victtd and no notice was served against bim or any form- ~ lUiS been paid. No alternative ality was observed to establisb Ajit Paal as ~ his been made for tbeir re- a foreigner or entered Assam after 25th ~. March 197 t • Sbri Ajit Paul wbo was born Bnd brought up at Pikepara (West Bengal) was serving in I st Battalion Nagaland Police In the Dame of Assam Accord today we from 29.7.70 to 24.8.79. As he was '" ctisouBIIiP. about tbe amendmeats . to tbe mentally imbalanced. now and tben be was 1IJeIa\ 'Mipanta {Determhlauon of TribWlals) discharged from Nagaland Police on 24.8.79. ¥t. .'8'1. I am sayiog about tbe untold From bis discbarge order it is very mucb llieeriCIB of the BIU because of tbe eXlstwg clear tbat he was witnin the country prior to is IMDT Act. Wbat tbe outcome of this '2 ~th March, 197 J and clause 5.8 is not ~"Bill 'I I have got something with applicable to him and he cannot be depor- _. I have lOt specific case. In the name ted. Tbere are many sucb cases. pi dclocUoo and deportation of Foreianers frOID A .... while going to implement the '.2. S.l. 5.4. S.S, 5.7 aDd ~,8 clauses of MR. CHAJRMAN: You have cited ,._ Acoord, the Government of Assam one. tbat is aU. Please conclude. ... etarted barusing the Indian citizeDS. Tbere are several instances. I am submlttlDg • very few instances here. SHRl ABDUL HAMID: There are many cases which I have submitted to Home ID isauiDa tbe Foreigners notices and Mimster. the President of IndIa and others. 'MOr notices tbe valid documents like 1966 In tbis Bill, whatever is placed before the Voter lijts or prior to it, citizens certificates. House is very sCrlou!lJy against tbe interests prior to 1966, NRC 1951, Schoo) certifi- of the mlDorities. Jt will hamper the inter- cates prior to 1966. Emplo),ment certlficate- ests of the rolDOntleS Bnd lakbs of people Prior to 1966 etc., are not bonoured in many Will be forcibly converted into foreignen. c.s-. there are some verdi.;t from the tnbuoal where dae judges dir~ted tbe party to IIJIDIDOI1 the issuing officer to certificates Section 8A (l) enables any person living to ItaDd .. the witoeas. In many cases the beyond the limIts of the same police station lisaiOa Officers i_ued the certificates 30 years to make an application to the Central ... aDd some of them already left tbe Government for reference to a Tribuna). But Wod4. How it is possible for the party to it is hampenng the interests of tbe minorities ~ to such directions from the Tribunal very much. (lnte,ruptlolJs) •.. ~! '1\a:c are many instances wher. the The power of the Central Government Iaqt.i" Officers are not satisfied witb ooly proposed to be given under section SA il , ... 4ocumcots prior to 1966. They press for not limited by any geographical limit as in till poat-1966 documents also. tbe reason the:: cahe of private coroplaants i.e. area of a i;t bell kftO.n to them. In mOlt cases even police station. It also does oat provide for aft. the Boquiey Officers beioa satisfied WHb any application fee as in Section S( 3). This .U tbe valid documents people are served power of -the Central Government is discri- widI tho PoreiaoCl'l Notices aDd IMDT minatory. It introduces double standard in ...., Notides ooce served, the people the Act. Wbile in tbe case of private com- tIII'faa", to attcDd the court DOW aDd tbeo plaint geographical limitation so introduced ,. moatbt 10ptber I.vioa aside all their in Section (8), no such limitation is provided ...., wotn. in tbe case of Section 8 A. This will encouraac frivolous applications. Moreover I For iDataDcc, 1 bay. aot a list of aboaat the same person may be required to face two ,., .;;r;.. wllo .,. baratie4. iliri AJlt lJtiJatiOJJ8 JimulWlCOUll)" MJrNnt, C:.llAltllA 9, 1910 (gAt<.:A) Illegal ,*"*,,t, (Dt'fermination"_ill by Tribunals) (Determi1ftltion'Iiy'Trilnznal,; Amdt. Bill Arndt. Bill Section 12(2) of the proposed Bill cies. Perbaps it is necessary for them to speaks of rderrinl the matter-it is very take that position but I would like them serious Sir-by tbe Cbairman of the to look at the problem from a natiooal poiDt Appellate Tribunal to a Member of another of view. Mr. Somnatb Cbaite~, for Tribunal baving jurisdiction under him and example, spoke about commitment to the tbe opinion of tbat Member WI)) deter- nation. I believe that tbe Auam accord i. a mine tbe matter. This sort of reference to commitment made to the whole nation. I a place outside tbe jurisdiction and beyond was just going tbrough the debates wheD tbe local limits of tbe Tribunal ID which the 198 \ Bill was enacted and I found to the aHeled illeaal migrant resides will my pleasant surprise tbat Mr. Cbatterjee introduce hardship for him to conduct among other speakers categorically stated sucb cases outside as most of these people tbat be stood by tbe commitment that those are poor and cannot afford to go to a dic;tant Who came into Assam after 24th March, place and as sucb In case of differences by 1971 would be foreigners, would be ilIesal ~ Members of the original Tribunal, the matter immigrants and would bave to be required J shall be referred to the Appellate Tribunal to leave the country. That -is tbe commit- who shall finally decide the maller instead ment which we are trying to implement. To of referring the matter to a third Tribunal. that commitment, witb great respect. it is not relevant to quote Pandit Nehru or Section 20(2) is a very serious provision Sardar Patel said in 1947 or 1950. In Sir. This amendment empowers a pohce 1 9 ~ 7 and 1 9 S0 no-onc could have aati- officer not below the rank of a Superinten- cipated that Pakistan will break-np No 0_ dent of Police to bind certain persons. Tbis could have anticipated that Banlladesb provision will introduce large scale bar'fss- would be free nation and no one could have ment to the minorities. The police will go anticipated tbat lakhs and millions of people to tbe villages, barass the people, give would migrate from Banlladesb into India them threat of arrest, obtain land and wtll and into Assam in particular. collect mon~y against unnecessary tbreat of asrest and deportation which is being done Sir, when the 1983 Bill was enacted very often new-a-days. (Interruptions) If the with the hope tbat it wiJl beal tbe wounds of Bill is passed then the minOrities of Assam the Assam people and brina peace to AaIam. will not accept it and there will be anotber Unfortunately that did not happen. The Palestine as Sri Lanka in Assam. (lnlerrup- aaitation continued. It was left to ·Prime tlolU). So, I oppose it and In protest I walk Minister. Sbri Rajiv Gandhi. -levIn mondls out from the House. after tbe Government was fo~. In f~ I remember the day quite vividly when be 14.35 brs. ran up the steps of Red Fort and unfurled tbe national fiaa and announced tbat in the (Shrl Abdul Hamid then left the House) early bours of 15th August. 1915 Govern- ment of India have been able to reach an THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 'alJ'eemcnt with the representatives of tbe MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC Assam people. That accord bas to be GIUEVANCES AND PENSIONS AND implemented. That accord is the promise. MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY That accord is the commitment. Clause 4 of OF HOMB AFFAIRS (SHRI P. CHIDAM- the accord says and I quote: BARAM): Mr. Chairman, Sir, it is not Oftcn that Mr. Somnath Cbatterjee and Mr. Dioesb Goswami disagree. • 'Keeping aU the aspects of the problem includinl ConstitutioRBl aDd SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: legal provisionSs International aarce- Tbat is your acbievcment. ments, national commitments and humanitarian consider.liou it· baa been decided to proceed as follows." SHRI P. CHJDAMBARAM: Sir, I wish to point out that I was left witb ~be Clause 5.3 'the Accord reads )ike feeUoa thiu maoy speakers were addr~salDg 'of tbit 'bomSclves to particular narrow constltuen- and I quote. 3i~ Ill-gal MilrQllu MARCH 29, 1988 II/~gal Mlpant, i J ~ (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Arndt. Bill ··Foreigners who came to Assam difficulties in expelling tbose who are admit- after 1.1.1966 inclusive and upto the tedly megal immigrants as determined by tbe 24th March. 1971 shall be detected tribunal and, tberefore, we should look into in accordance with the provisions of tbe matter. tbe Foreigners Act. 195 I .. ' .. On some principles, we have stood aod the Foreigners Tribunal Order, 1964:' extremely firm. We bave not relented, Mr. Goswami bimself said that there was 10 paragraph 5.8, tbe Accord said and hard bargaining. In fact, many meetinls quote: were held between tbe Chief Mini~ler of Assam and the Prime Minister of India. It was very hard bargaining. But we stood ·'Foreigners who came to Assam on firm and said, we will not yield on certain or after March 2S. 197 1. shall matters because these are matters where if continue to be detected. doleted and we yield. we wilt be opening a Pandora '8 expelled in accordance witb law. box. We will be commilling a breach of Immediate and practical steps shall be faith. However, on matters which are not taken to expel such foreigners." material, on matters which we think if we make some concessions, ths perceptions of Government did not relent from its the people of Assam will change, on matters position that the cut-off date shall be 2 4 tb where we were satisfied that there were of Marcb 197 J • genuine difficulties, we have agreed and we have brougbt forward thi~ Amendment Bill. We must pay a tribute to Mrs. Gandhi who stood firm by this principle. No amount of qitatioa. no amount of tbreats, no This Bill does nothing more than tak.e amount of protests made her yield from care of certain practical administrative this principle that the cut-off dale sball be matters. For example. it is ask.ed: Why only tbe 24th of March 1 j71. I must should you reduce tbe strength of a tribunal conaratulate AASU and the leaders of from three members to two members? Sir. AASU woo eventually saw reason and what is the magic of three? Why should aceepted 24th of March \ 97 l as tbe date it be thrc-e? Why should it not be five? for the expulsion of foreigners. However, The point is aU litigation in this country is. the' leaden of Assam represented and this by and large, decided by a single judge or a is recorded in the agreement in paragraph single member of a tribunal. On appeal, it 5.9 : normally goes to the High Court where also It is beard only by a single judge. Ocassion- "The Government will Itive due consi- ally. a division bench is constituted. It is deration to certain difficulties expres- rarely that a case is heard by three members sed by tbe AASU. AAGSP regarding either of a tribunal or of a court. tbe implementation of tbe llleial Mipants (Determination by Tribunals) What has been our experience bas been Act. 1983:' that we required 40 jud,es from outside to man 10 tribunals at the rate of two outside This wu catered into on J 5th August judges per tribunal. Despite strenuous t 98S. We are now on tbe 29tb March eft'oru. we were able to find only 16 or 17 1981. It bas taken over two years or judges who were willing to ,0 to Assam to ..tieDt DeIOtiatiODI to arrive at lome serve on these tribunals. How we solved CODIenSUI. Implementing an accord is tbis problem was, we appointed tbe same DOt a matter of issuing orderl. It i. a judge to be a member of more tban one matter of perception. Jt is • matter of tribunal wbich IS hardly a aatis(actory way creatioa tbe ript eDvVooment. The Govern- of resolving the problem. Subaequcntly, meat of Assam. AASU aDd other oraanisa- maDY of those jud,e, desired to leave Alum. dODS io Assam repraented to the Govero- I pointed ont in this House earlier apinat meat that there are practical diflicultia in tbe protests of Shri Goswami tbat Govern- ;.p..adDf tile aoc:ont, tbere an practkal moat 01 Allam did Dot do all it QOUId .." '17 III~al Mlgranl, CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SARA) Illegal MIgrQllt8 '1' (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill done to persuade the judges to remian in area as in a rural area. It can be smaller Assam and complete th" work. The net as in an urban area. It is not as though every result was the number of Tribunals was police station will have a radius of 3 kms. reduced from '20 to 4. Today we have It depends upon the density of tbe popula- reached an agreement that these Tribunals tion. But Jooking into the actuality or the will be manned by two judges. one from reality on the ground, since inquiries have outside Assam and one from inside Assam to be made by the police authorities wbo and they will dispose of these cases quickly. belong to a police station, we have accepted The Government of Assam has also made a the principle that the complainant can promise 0 us that th("y will increase the reside, the complaint can arise from a number of Tribunals from 4 to 18 at the person residing within tbe same police fate of one Tribunal per district. If there station as a respondant to 3n application. is a difference of opinion which could happen Therefore, by amending the 3 kms. radius in a rare case, the case will go before a principle to the principle ·of a police station third member to be nominated by the area, no damage has been done to the Chairman of the Appellate Tnbunal. structure of the Act. Similarly, on an appeal, the case will be heard by two members of the Tribunal and SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: The io a rare case of a difference, it will be i!lsue was not about tbe capacity of the resolved in a High Court as it is resolved jurisdiction of the police officer. It was in many other Tribunals today, by about the personal knowledge of the referring the matter to a third judge. I do complainant. not think that any gra~e damage is done to the basic pTlDciples of this Act by reducing SARI P. CHIDAMBARAM: The the number of judges from three to two, personal knowledge of the complainant is both in the Tribunal as well as in the not really a material factor •••... (Intl!r- Appellate Tribunal. rupt;ons 1 When you bave asked a quesrion, please have the courtesy to wait We have cbanged the area from which for the answer. My dear friends are not complaints can come The point was why readmg the Act and tbe various provisions dId we change from 3 kms. to the same of the Act. On a complaint beina made by police station are 1. We found tt-at botb a person. it is not as though. immediately an under Section 8(t and S~ction 8(2) of the inquiry is ordered. Kiodly see the provisions. parent Act. the inqulO ha<; to be made by Read Section 11, It reads: the police: otfi.::ers who will belong to a police station Under Sec[lon 8( I). the Government "On receipt of an application under can m.lke a reference suo moto to the Sub-section (2) of Section 8, the Tribunal. Under Section 8: 2). a person can Tribunal shall issue a notice, accom- apply to the Tribunal against another person panied by a copy of the application. who IS de .. crtbed a<; an ilkgal migrant. In to the prescribed autbority calling either case, the principal Act requires an upon it to furnish, after makins such inquiry to be made, and a report ta be inquiry as that authority may deem submitted to the Tribunal, And after that, fit a report to the Tribunal with the Tribunal m.ly eilher reject the apP'lcarion regard to the avertments made in tbe summarily or may pro;:eed to hold an application ... inquiry in accordance with Sed ion Q or 10, The resDondant is Dot in tbe picture at that etc. and d!llver a verdict. Therefore, whether stage. A report is called for from. the it is under Section 8t 1) or under Section prescribed authority and the prescrIbed 8(2), tbe :nqUlry has 10 be conducted ~Y authority is the police authority aDd the the local police: authorities who Will local revenue authorities. Then, under submit a repnrt. Once this position is Sub.section 2 of Section I', it is provided as conceded, there is no problem in comi~g foHows: to the conc1u",ion that we can expand ('If 10 some casc§ re~trict the jurisdiction, the "If on a consideration of tbe report area within which a complainant can make made by tbe prescribed authority, the a complaint to th: police station area. Tribunal is satisfied that - Now, the police station area can be a large MAReH "9. t9., 11,." MllwlrttJ 320 '"f(lhlermiJlll1iOll I"'~. by Tribllnals) (Determinatioll by Tribllllal8) Amdt,. Bi/~ Amit. Bill (a) tbe person oamed in the BDplica- you aoawer my question? •• t' ('",er- lion ia not an itlep.l migrant or nqJlkHQ). Shri Cbidambaram is try iDa to tbat the application is frivolous or show tbat tbe earlier Bill was wroal. veatioDl, or lias not been made in 800d faidl. the Tribu.net shall. SMRI P. CHIDAMBARAM : No, we after aivioa the applicant an are not changing tbe section. You are not opportunity to be beard; reject the reading the provisions . ..plication; SHRI SOM~ATH CHATTERJEE: Tbis pro\tision still mDains If tbe Tribunal Only you are reading the provisions a.od iI ..ti.fiect on a ~port given by tbe authority others are all ignorant. that the complainant bad no personal know- IedIe aod tbe complainant did not matce SURI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Tbis is this application in 800d faitb, tbis is a because I did not bear you read it. I am frivolous COII'Ip'aint or it is a fictitious reading Section t t whicb bas not been complaint, or that tb! respondent is not touched at all. Tbe two-stage enquiry still an llIeaal migrant, it shall reject the applica- continues ••... (Interruptions). tion .....,iIy. In Net. tbe respondent would ... appeM before the Tribunal. He would not even know about bis application SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: if it is rejected ~ummarily But it is only Wby was t\lrce kms included earlier '1 in claose (b) that it is provided: SHR' P. CHIDAMBARAM: Tbere is no magic in 3 kms, tbere is no magic in ~lf there are reasonable grounds to 8 kms, there is no magic in a police station believe tbat the person named in the area •.•. (l1l1"ruptioM). There is no lotic application is an illegal migrant.... " eitber ..... (/"terruptioru). It is after eoaait'erinl the report. MR. CHAIRMAN: No interruptions ,. • • •• the Tribunal shaJJ issue a plea~e. notice aecompanied by a copy of tbe application to tbe person named in SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: It bas tbe ~plication calliog upon him to become a habit with tbem. They will not make within 10 days of tbe receipt of hear, they will not listen . (Interrupt lOlls). tbe notice sucb representation with You are disparaging the police of Assam nward to the 8verments made in tbe and Shri Goswami sbould have protested. application aod to produce sucb 00 his beba1f. I am protestlDg. You cannot evidence a~ be may think fit in disparage tbe pollee of Assam, you cannot aapport of bis defeoce.·' disparage the revenue authorities of Assam_ (/"Urruption,) . TIle ...... , i. a tWG-stage enquiry. At the tint staae, tbeft n a sc:reeD1nl done through SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: You • pletClibed authority. have tried to live an impression tbat until the report comes in. tbe person against SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: wbom tbe complaint is made is not affected. Police will make the enquiry. Police will DOt The police bas to make an enquiry witb aaake a lubjective report.... (lnte,· regard to tbat person. ,.",10111 ). SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: That is SHill P. CHIDAMBARAM; I would the Section in the 19ti 3 Act. Tbat bu not __ &bat the police in other pal1l of the been affected. OOIIDtry are .. aood or as bad as tbe police ia West Berapl .•.• «("t~"uptloU). SHRI SOMNATH CRATTER.JEB : As Sbri Sbababuddin bas jOlt now riabtly laid. 111&1 SOMNA'tH CHATTERJEE: Why tbe informant wes expected to koow per- do you bri.... w_ ..... ? Wby can't lOOell)' of tlle caat. J21 In~1 M1tfftlnt. CHATTRA 9. 1910 ~SARA) IlI,gal Mlgfa"t, : ~'22 (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by 'irlBinal,) Arndt. Bill Amdt. Bill SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Whether revisiona} power shbuld be ;U'ke~' ....y. it is 3 kms, eight kms, or it is the police Now. we extracted a committneDt 1rom1»the station area, the enquiry has to be conducted Assam Government that tbey will af' DO only by the revenue and police authorities time, take an objection that tbe High -tdurt within the jurisdiction. Whether you call it does not have. Jurisdiction. In fact. '1-1bc, 3 kms (Tnte"uption,). have agreed with us tbat the 'Hig'b ~urt i has jurisdiction to revise orders ot > the You must allow me to speak •• (lnter,up- Appellate Tribunals. The High Cor.rfs 'tiave lion,). You are in the habit of never aHowing jurisdiction to supervise and control 'the anybody else to ~peak. I heard you patiently. tribunals and once this pot;ition is made I did not interrupt you. I could have inter- very clear, there is no purpose in havlos a rupted you,. (TnterruptioM). totally superfluous provision jn the Act. MR. CHAIRMAN: No interruptions SHIU SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: He please. is giving the voice of tbe GoVerdlbent of India. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: There is SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: 'Yes. I no great magic in a particular geographical am speaking for the GovernMent of Ilwdia, area, because the enquiry would stiJJ have certainly not for your party. to be conducted by the prescribed authority and the prescribed authonty is an authority SHRI SOMNATH CHATT!RBm: prescribed under the rules. It may be a Therefore. I would like to know I~ber revenue authority, i: may be a police autho- uDder Articles 226 and 227, tbe Hip COurt rity. The enquiry will still be conducted. can correct an order on the gn,und of When the complamt comes from 3 kms, material irregularity. 4 kms, or 7 kms, it is the authority which is going to hold the enquiry and that SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: J aID'not position fema ins unchanged .• (Inrerruptio,n) goipg to cross swords with my learned friend on law here because this is not a court of It is difficult to convince people wbo are law. High Courts have corrected orden. addressing peculiarly narrow constItuencies. issued writs of certiorari on the groun4'that One haq to look at the people of Assam. there are material irreaularities, or Imtltrial their perceptions, aspirations and one bas megalities or tbat the orden are pcrvtrso. also to look to at problems in the light of I am not going to enter into an araument the Assam Accord. We solemnly agreed in on law. If be tbinks tbe provision is il\ep1, Clauc;e ~. 9 that we would Jook into the be knows wbere to go and 6ght the pro- practical dlflkulties and we nre looking into vision The point is the jurisdiction UDder the practical difficulties There is no grave Article 226 and 227 bas been expadded. danger or damlile. 8S has been suggested. For the last 12 years, the Supreme Courts done to the structllre of the Act by making and High Courts have expanded their the area, as police stallnn area, rather than jurisdictions UDder AI tic'e 226 and 227. 3 Km. In fact Sir, I am agbast at the s1JllCStioD that 226 and 227 are less wide mao' the provisions of this Act. Accordins to me Tben. Sir, the criticism was levened this proposition bas to be staled to be alainst taking away the revis'onal jurisdic- rejected. tion of the High Court. Here again I am not able to understand tbis criticism. It is not in dispute that under Article 226 and SURI SOMNATH CHATTB1UEB: 1 Article 227 tbe High Court has got ample have not said it. jurisdiction to interfere with the tribu~al orders It has got jurisdiction of superin- SHRI P. CUIDAMBARAM: Finally. tendence and control. In fact, the jurisdic- tbe criticism was levelled aaainst tion is constitutional. plenary and wider the new Clause 13 and Clause 14, by tban the revisional power provided in the which certain powers are aifeo to tho Act. It was poioted out to us that the .323 ll1qo1 MIgrtlnt, MARCH 29. 1988 lllqaJ Mitra"" (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt.Bill Police authorities. I would like to dispel Where a matter is pending, be bas to record all misapprehensions in tbat behalf. Mr. bis reasons and wbere a final order bas been Soz, I believe. must have read tbe provisions pronounced by a tribunal or an appallate carefuUy but he may bave missed the point. tribunal, tben be shall arrest the person Clause 13 applies only if an order of ex- and ensure tbat he is removed from the pulsion bas been made by the Tribunal. )n country. such a case it is the duty of tbe executive to ensure that the illegal migrant is removed I cannot see what objection can be taken from the country, removed from tbe Stat(', to tbese provisions. These provisions have and "it is only in such ca"SCS tbat tbe power been made in order to implement the of arrest bas been conferred upon the Accord If \\c are serious about the Assam superintendent of the police. Under Clause Accord: if we are seriouc; about tbe cut off ) 4. which introduce Se,=tion 21 A ••• date of 2S March 197', and jf we are (lnt~rruptlons ) serious about expelling people who have been pronounced as illegal migrants, tben MR. CHAIRMAN: Please take your I think these provisions are absolutely seat. necessary. (lnlerruplionl) SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Ye.;, I will answer it. Clause 13 adds sub-section 2 These are the major chaoges which have to Section 20. Yoo mu,t kindly read the been brought about by thiS Act I would existing sub-section 1 of Section 20. SlIb- submit that thIS amending Bill is inteoded section 1 of Section 70 provides for a to remove misapprehensions in tbe minds SItuation where a person has been determtned of people and to meet the perceptions and by the tribunal or as tbe case may be, by ac;plrations of the people of Assam. the Appellate tribunal to be an Illegal migrant, tbe Central Government shall by However Sir. before I conclude, J wish orders servt"d 00 such person direct such to add a word of caution. We held, during person to remove himself from India \\ IthlD our dl~cuCisions with the Chief Minister {If $u.:h· time and by such route as may be Assam and other representatives of Assam, specified in the order and may give such impre<;sed upon them that they should not directions in regard to his removal from give room fo' any klOd of executive abu<;('. India as it may be considered necessary or There ba\le b~en Instances i-\hich ha\'e been expedient. It is only in such a case, after brought to our notice of executive authontlc" he bas been decJared as an illegaJ immiliZrant ab.Jsing the provisions of law. It IS not and after orders have been made that he confined to this law~ It iii not confined to should be removed from India, if the per~on Alisam. Executive abuse is s(lmelhlOg which does not remove himself from J.,dia then j<, prevalent throughout the country and It the power is now conferred upon t be arises under various laws. But I believe and Superintendent of Police to arr~t bim dod I accept tbe words of Shrl GO$wami and to ensure tbat tbe order is complied with. others who ~poke that tbey will imprt'<;s It is not in a C8\e where the matter IS upon theIr Government that wbile imple- pending before the tribunal. In clt"e the menting thi~ Act as amended. tbey would matter is pending before the tribunal it IS not give room for any kind of bara~\ment dealt with under Clause '4 which hAS or any kind of oppre'ision of Ihe OllDorlty introduced new Section 2 I A and kindly see community I am bappy that many members tbat Section Mr. Soz. have spoken up and aaid tbat tbe Act and tbe Asaam Accord and this whole exercise 1500 ..... are not directed against the minorities. This Act is not directed against anyone belonging There it 18)'5 : to any faith. It is directed against person' who have come into Assam after 2'th "if be is satisfied tbat tbe circum- March , 97 t and who are, therefore, illegal .taDCel 10 reqoire and for reason. to m;grant~. be recorded in "ritinl, to direct any peI'IOD _,ain.t wbom • reference or all applicatioD baa beca made under Upto January 1988, under the JMDT tbi, Act to enter into a botld ••• •• Act, 9121 references were 018"-, out of ~~! )U.gal Mlgralll. CaAltltA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Illegal M(frantl ~2G" (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Arndt. Bill Arndt. Bill whicb 5 14 references bave been disposed of Witb tbis appeal. let me commeod thit and 639 persons have been pronounced as amending BiJI to this Hoose and request this illegal migrants. Tbere arc 8807 cases House to adopt this amending Bill. pending before the Tribunals. Out of tbe 639 persons pronounced as illegal immi- grants, 140 bave been expelled. Now, ) SHRI BASUDBB ACHARIA(Bankura) : Yes. I want to speak on the Amendments. am not pronouncing any value judgment wbetber tbis is good or bad. From one point of view, this may be good and from MR. CHAIRMAN: You have already another point of view, tbis may be bad. spoken. But the point is, in all these matters, it is wise to basten slowly. Wbat is important SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: I bave is tbat persons should not be expelled moved my Amendments. I have not spoken. without fair and just procedure. Even if procedures are slightly dilatory, I would MR. CHAIRMAN: The speeches are appeal to the Government of AS9am to already over. Members have already spoken. ensure tbat ju!tice and fairness are not jeopardised in the proce5s of identifying or SHRI 8ASUDEB ACH \RIA : I only expelling illegal migrants. It is not a game moved my Amendments at tbat time. I want of numbers. There is no satIsfaction in to speak on my Amendments now. I should saying tbat we have expelled ten tbousand be allowed to speak now. people or twenty tbousand people. Even jf it takes a little longer, I thmk tbe Assam Government must-as tbey promised aod MR. CHAIRMAN: Not now. This is assured us during the course of our dls- not the practice. You should bave spoken cussions-eosure tbat every person against then whom a reference has been made, gets a fair inquiry and a just inquiry and he is SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: I was allowed due process of law It does Dot not asked to speak. I have not spoken. 1-was matter if it takes a little longer. But we only asked to move my Amendments. must ensure that nobody is left with a feeling that he bas not heen ghen a MR. CHAJRMA N: Wben you ·are fair tnal asked to move, you bave to move as well u to speak. As regards people who came between 1.1.1966 and 29.3.1971, while tbe number SHRI BASUDEA ACHARIA: It wu of inquiries initiated was 3,8S,103. the not known to me. number of cases actually referred to tbe Foreigners' Tribunals was only 21.501 out MR. CHAIRMAN: I can't bell' it. of which 2854 were declared as persons fallina witbin the category of 'persons who came between 1966 and 1971'. Tbese SHRI BASUDBB ACH "RIA: I was people will enjoy all the rights except (he only asked to move my Amendmeots. I Qnly right of vote for a period of ten ye.lfs. Here moved my Amendments. I wanted to sVeat again, I would urgc upon the Government on my Amendments. of Assam, rather I would appeal to the Government of Assam throu,h this House MR. CHAIRMAN: No. to bastoo slowly in these matters. Tbese are people who will live with us and they wnl get citizenship after tcn years. So, rar SHRI BASUDEB ACH.\RlA: Sir. yoU' people who came between ! 966 and J 971. kindly allow me to speak. I want to speak. we mu~t ensure tbat there is 00 barassment 00 my Amendments. aod no oppression aod we must see tbat no inconvenience is causCd to this stream of people. They will live witb us, they will MR. CHAIRMAN: You can sticak c()ns\~t.~ be o_.r brothors and sisters aod tbey will wben the Clauses are taken into Yoto wltll UI toa , ..... from ,04.,. \iOD aDd Dot DOW. MARCli 29, 1988 Illegal AiIgrlJnt, (DcterminatiOll.by Tribunals) Arndt. JJill I PIJ~, Atl\Cnd~J;l.t1 nu~pers 24 and 25 SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: 1 beg m~~ ~ ~bsi ~sudcb I Aclaaria to tbe vote to move: of 1M Ho~.,!-, "Page 1. line 7,- ~JlT !los. 24 and..25 ~r~ put a"d ~!~fl, ~ for "two members" lubstitute- Mil. CHAIRMAN: The question is: "five members who shall be from outside "'DIat :.tbe. Billt to amad the Illega 1 Assam" (S4) Migrants (Determination by Tribunals) Act. 198 1, be taken into consideration." PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I beg to move: MR.. ~HAlRM"N : The,House will.now "Page J. line 7.- takc,pp (;Iause by Clause consideration of the Bill~ Clause 2. after' 'two members" insert- "appointed by the Central Government with the concurrence of Chief Justice of Claute 1 India." (66) (Amendment 0/ section S) SHR} BASUDEB ACHARIA: Sir. SHlU BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): under Clause 2, I bea Jo move : "Page t, "ne 6,- I have given my Amendment which is as follows: tlll~ '"(hePeinafter referred to as the priooipal A~t)." "after tbe words 'State" the words truert c'in sub-section ('Z) after the "after consultation with Chief Justice of words "State·· the words ' after India", shall be inserted." c:oDiOltatiQD with Chief JUStice of ~.~ sball be inserted and' (3) So I would say that after tbe consulta- "Page J, line 7,- tion with the Chief Justice of India, the Members of tbe Tribunal should be appoin- forL"two" mb,tilute "five" (4) ted. The Amendment bere is tbat the State Government will take steps to appoint the SHill SVEO SHAHABUDDIN: I beg Members of the Tribunal. I think tbat it to~; would be proper jf the Members whose quali- fications will be equivalent to District Judge "p. I, line 7,- will be appointed by the Chief Justice of after "two lDeOlbeI~" in'e,,- India. I think. this will be proper and this "bot~ Jof ,,vhOm sball be from outside way, you can earn confidence of tbe people. Assam' (32) In the present Act, three Members are there in the Tribunal. So, the argument advanced DY Shri Chidambaram is that it may be one SH1U G.M. BANATWAl.LA: I beg lO or two or three. Then why in the present move: Act, the number is three? Why do you want to change it, or to reduce the number; what ",q., I, line 9.- is the ground? Why do you want to red~ tbe number to two, from three? (Interrup- after "two members" ',.,e,.,- tion,) The Minister has not stated tbat tbe "appointed by tbe Central Govern- reason is tbe shortage of Judges. (Interrup. ~, -.in c:oncJJ~ence" with the Cbief lions) So, my amendment is that from two, Justij:C 9f India and botb of whom shall the number of mem~n of the tribunal .,. rRim outtide Allam ..',', (41) .bould be nliHd $0 nvo. :h, Ilk,al Mlgr.', CHAITRA'9. 1910 (SAKA) IIIqIlI MJKrlllll6 334 (Determinlltion by Tribunals) (Determt'natiDn By Tribunal,) Amdl. Bill AmcJI.. lJ ill SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : I Will number of Additional District Ju~ aDd just clarify. I am not convinced by wbat tbe District Judges outside Assam, to go to bon. Minister has said, that the number is Assam. (lnte,ruplions) We. therefore. think Dot sacred. About tbe Dumber three, there is that 18 or :!O tribfJnals can be manned by a point. Three is an add number. Therefore, two Judges each, one of whom will.be from it can be a one-stage, ratber than a two- outside Assam, and the other from inside stage decision. All the same, the point has Assam. been conceded that some of these members of the tribUnal must be from outside. That I am sorry, Sir, I cannot accept these is why I have suggested that in view of the amendments. (InlerruptJOnJ) •• special- situation prevaiHng in Assam., if the Dumber is sought to be reduced to two, MR. CHAIRMAN : No; not allowed. It because the requisite number of members are will not go on record. (Inte,.,.uptlomV•• not available in the market, in that case they should be brought in from outside. I now put a11 the amendments to They should not be from within Asc;am. Clause 2 together to the vote of the House. SHRlI G. M. BANATWALLA : I would Amendment, No.3, 4, 32, 41, 54 au 66 like to reiterate that the number should were put QIUi negatived. remain at three. What is this Government saying that in the whole of India, we cannot find out 40 Judges from out~ide Assam? MR CHAIRMAN : The question is : What kind of maoagcrs are they, that from the whole of India they cannot find out the • 'That Clause 2 stand part of tbe requisite number? But even If you want to BiU." take two, both should be from outside Assam; and they must be appointed with the The mOlion wal adopted concurrence of the Chief Justice of India. This will ensure full confidence ID tbe Clause 2 ".s added to tile Bill. machinery, and will also provide for tbe smooth functioning of the tribunal. MR. CHAIRMAN: There is no amend- ment to Clause 3. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : I want that the memben should be free from pre- The question is : judice, whether linguistic or religious. So, I "That Clause 3 stand part of tbo ,t. have said that the Judges should be more. Bdl." Five members should be there, from outside Assam. I think there should not be any The motion was adopted scarcity of Judges. There is so much of unemployment. So, you recruit them. Clause 3 was added to the Bill. PROF SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I wanted to Clause 4 (Ameademeat 01 Seet'oa ') suggest only one tbmg, viz. that Government of India should appoint these Judges in saRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: I consultation with. with the concurrence of, beg to move the Chief J uc_;tice of India. Page 2. lines 5 to 7,- SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM : I am sorry. (Interruplions) I have already said that the fol' • 'within the jurisdiction of the . tribunal shall consist of members who are same police station wherein the qualified to be appointed as District Judge or appliC8nt.bas his place of resid~" as an Additional District Judge; we cannot ,ubstitute "at a place within two just pick up any lawyer and appoint him kilometres from the place of residence here. He has to be qualified to be a District of the applicant." (5) Judge or an Additional District Judge. We baw bad- diffi~\llties io 6ndiq adequato ~3i 11.1 MigI'M/. MARCH ~ », 1981 Ii/egal M"'tlIII8 (DetermiJUltion by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill A.mdt. Bill Page 2, line 11,- Page 2,- lor "the jurisdiction of the same afler line 28, insert police station" "(6) Every reference under sub- sub6titlle "two kilometers of the section (1) or section 8A sball be area"' 6 accompanied by a statement giving full particulars of such facts, proof and cvidence on basis of which the Page 2. line 12,- reference has been made. (52) CI/or "tco" substitule "fifty" (7) SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: I beg to move: Page 2, lino 16,- after "sub-section (*) .. insert" aod Page 2, lines 5 to 7,- sub-section every application under lor "within the jurisdiction of the 0)" I same police station wherein the applicant bas his place of residence" Pate 2,- sub,rtlue "at a place withjn two kilometres from the place of residence Omit lines 20 to 28. (9) of the applicant or within jurisdiction of the same gram paDehayst or SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN! I beg Revenue Village-Mowza of the place to ~ve: of residence of tbe applicant" (S5) Page 2" line 6,- Page 2, line 11,- for "p'llice station" lor "the Junsdiction of the same lubllilute "police outpost" (33) police station" lubstltute '·two kilometres of the area Pap 2, line 11,- or the jurisdiction of the same gram panchayat or tbe jurisdiction lor "police station" of the sub,tilute "police outpost" (34) same Revenue Village Mowza" (56) Paao 2. line 20,- Page ?,- after "no" omit lines 20 to 28. 111#1'1 C 'fixed or permanent" (36) PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOz.: I beg to Page 2. line 27.- move: after "his" Pale 2, line 12,- tme" "fixed or permanent" (37) lor "tcn" SHRIO. M. BANATWALLA: I beg 8ubllitute "thirty" (67) to move: PalO 2, line 20,- Pate 2, line 12,- after "no" for "ten" tMer' "permanont or temporary" (68) lub,tittlte Hseventy-tlvc" (42) Pqe 2, line 27.- hae 2,- after • 'his" (ltnit line to "1 (44) tnHr' "pcrmanent or temporary" (69) '33 111$1 Mlg,llIIl, CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Illegal MI,rtl1lt. ~.. 3~4 (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Arndt. Bill Arndt. Bill SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: On Station. Now, there are two types of pro- Clause 4 I have given several amendmentl- ceedings contemplated. One is 'ou ",DIu refer- S, 6.7.8 and 9-but I want to speak only ence to the tribunal by the Central Govern- on two of them, that is amendment no. S. ment. The other is on the basis to be With all the articulation of the HOD. initiated on an application to be made by a Minister who replied and although he has compl~i"ant. There is a departure. Now jettisoned and denigraded his senior collea- the difference is being made between the gue, who was the Home Minister earlier, location of tbe territorial jurisdiction with when he moved that Bill, I have not beeo regard to these two types of proceediogc:. able to understand the reasons for removing When a reference is made to the Tflbunal this 6 km boundary which was very by the Government, then it shall be m:..de to c')n~ciou'ity incorporated under the previous the Tribunal within the territorial limits of law; and Mr. p.e Sethi-I read out that-he whose jurisdiction the place of residence of always ignores inconvenient things; naturally. tbe person named in such rcfernnce is at the he is learning very fast. There was a time of making such reference, situated. conscious inclusion of thi~ and Mr. PC. Kindly note the word • 'residence is situated Sethi justified that without this there will be within the territorial limits of that tribunal". misery caused to the people who are intended Now see the difference tbat is being made, to be proceeded against. Now, the very in respect of 8 (2) proceedings. basis was the personal knowl~dge of a complainant and to avoid harassing baseless, Kindly see sub-section (S). vindictive complaint. It is no good saying, 'Every application under sub-section well, why are you bothered because it is the (2)"-namely the complaint may be police report which will really initiate the filed without there being a reference- pro:eedings agaimt that person. This is the diffi ;ulty. When tbiq government relies only "shall be made to the Tribunal within on police and the police raj is sought to be the territorial limits of whose jurisdiction set uP. they lose balance of proper perspec- the person named in such application is tive in this matter. Why th:n it is a police found or. as the ca~e may be, bas bis station area? Why can't it be tbe whole place of residence ...... district, tbe whole State because every- thing depends on the police report. Tben Supposing one per'llon from one district why you restrictmg to a police station? goes to another district, for two days, Therefore. we say that something which was three dd),s. even one day, then on that very consclou"ly incorporated in the law as day if a complaint is made-it may be containing a It inimum safe~uard is being mady to the Tribunal having jurisdiction taken away. because, according to the pre- in the place Where he may be fortuitously sent Minister, the police report will be there. found-now ~by this distinction between Why do you bother '1 I submit there is no 8(1) proceed,ngs and 8(2) proceedings. In rationale, no basis ha.. been given for the one case it has to be residence. In another cf-)anges that are made except the government case, residence plus fortuitous finding of that haC! come to 8n alrangement with the Chief person. fherefore, if one has gone to a friend Minister of A .. sam. You .. ay that Don't of his, or a relative of his, for two days, three try to ;ustlfy it. Now, the next amend- days, then in that place a complaiot may be ment. made by a man and before tbe tribunal of that place, that is far away from his home. PROF. Mi\OHU DANDAVATE What is the logic behind it? What is the (Rajapur) : Railwa) station is better than tte principle of justice behind this? Police Station. MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Shahabuddin. SHRI SOMANATH CHATTERJEE: SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir, Sir, the next amendment whl,:h I wish to you should aHow the last sentence. You stress on is Amendme1ls No.8 and 9. are finishing these people. You are pre- Would you kindly look at it? Othuwise siding over that, unfortunately. You you will not appreciate the mischief. What should leave the Chair now and give it to happened? The Hon. Minister stressed on somebody else, because you bear Illy that, it will be residence within tbe Police name. 135 I"'" MI"at, MAIlCHf29. '988 (Det~IIli.IulI;(}n Hl_'trl Mttrtm'8 '!3tJ by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) >Amdl. Bill Amdt.Bill ,-MR. CHAl&MAN: You llave SpokOD MR. CHAtRMAN: Please leave it. Mr. about it. Chatterjee bas already spoken about it. 1 SMRI SOMNATH CHATrBRJBE: I SHRI SYBD SHAHABUDDIN: There 'UIl ••Jios "1Vith all the solemnity t why we may be certam number of itlDerant labour have moved tbis amendment, that you who might be travelling from place to place. ··brioa in' within this jurisdiction both 8( I) but a lot of people who are in the electoral and 8(2)- proceedings, and do not create rolls, (I know, they bave used the electoral this distinction, which may create havoc and rolls and they shall use It for fillDg objec- it will create havoc because of frivolent t;ons) have a fixed abode. Therefore, and motivated complaints. So. I am strictly atleast there should be a reference to a mewing this amendment. permanant or fixed place of residence. because that Will reduce the possiblhty of SURI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Mr. mischief That is the amendment that I Chairman, the lab:>rious explanation by the have propo~ed. HOD. Minj~ter bas not cOllvinced me of the Deed for reducing the distance limit from FlDally, I am afraid that the police may three kilometres to what is stated now. He not find It difficult even to arrest or detain has been taking of the magic of numbers. I periODS some wbere and take him to another am talking of the logic of n11mber. And the place, another Dilltrict or an('ther jurisdic- Minister's exphnation harps on a different tion and then lay the charge agamst bim in point altogether and does not reany take that jurisdiction. ThiS has happened 10 our into account the point being made by all of country and I am sure tbi.. can happen ID us, that when you are vestmg an authOrity m Assam also. Tberefore. that pos~Jblhly also a private individual. you do it only because need to be looked into before \\c enact tbls be has penional knowledge He cannot amendment That IS why. 1 have suggest~d possibly have personal knowledge, of all t"e tbat there may \:le a reference to a fixed place people within a large area And that IS of residence, where alone the tr:bunal shall why you reduce it from a State to the be competent to look mto the case. district and finally you reduce it to ju,t a circle of a certain numb r of kil('metres SHR( G M. BANATWALlA: Mr. radius. Now yoo have sougbt to enlarge it Chairman Sir, thi.. stipulation regarding 3 to a Police Station. My amendment is that K Ms of area from whicb a complaint can be at least within a Police S'alion tbere are a IOOled agalOst so-called illegal migrant is a number of Po'ice Posts. So reduce at teast very important feature of the prinCipal Act. te tbe mana~able area of a police post. The figure of 3 Kms was very consciously chosen and I may quote here what the tben That is my first amendment. Home MIDlster Shn PC. Sethi has .. aid on 15 th Dec. 198 3-Column 38~. My second amendment is on tbe question of tbe fee that is p1yable. A fee was levied, "1 he Government has struck a balance as the Hon. MID,ster himself admitted, in by providing thiS limit of 3 Kms order to reduce tbe possibility of frivolous or between two extreme views-one view iDfcuctuoUi objections. Now by reducing tbe ~uLZgesting that tbere should be no fee from as. 2S'- to Rs. 10/-, youare restriction at all, and the other view iofacc incrUne. it in the same proportion, suggesting a restriction • .. tbe Dumber of cases of frivolous applications that miabt be made. In fact Sir, durin, Therefore, a balance which is being ddt period siDee tbe Bd) was enacted. the maintaineJ. IS being destroyed today. r s"'y value of the ..J\1peo bas lone down. Tbero tbat thIS balance was maintained in order to is a lood cue for uPiradiog the fee. There lee that tbere are DO frivolous maliciou'l II DO cue at all for reducioJ tbe fee. complaints. Sir, sufficient unto the dely IS the evil hereof Let \15 therefore not add to Sir. tDY tbird p()int was - apin tbe Hon. the miseries of the people. I rberef,'re UiDiltCr .... made my task mucb easier ... request the Hon. Minister to sec that Ihis (llJIerr." 10" I). balance is not upset. 337 Illegal Migrants CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Illegal MigrantJ 33S (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribuna/s) Amdt. Bill Arndt. Bill The question about tbe fee is also there. iust request the Hon. Minister to convince Now, the fee is reduced to ten rupees. The me on the existence of sub-clause 2 of question involved is the citizenship of a section 8. They should all together go. person and it is being so callously treated that any person coming from such a wide SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I-am area by paying just Rupees ten can challenge sorry, I cannot accept any of these amend- the citizenship. Then we know, who wi1l be ments. I only want to clarify the point wbieh paying this money Therefore, it is absolu- Mr. Somnatb Chatterjee has raised. tely necessary that in the interest of justice, proper balance is maintained. In the principal Act, a suo motu SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Mr. reference can be made under section 8(1) Chairman Sir, the police station area is a and the Trib1lnal to which you shall make vast area. or course, it is true in urban that application was set (lut in section 8( O. areas, it may two square kIlometres or four The two sub-sections which are relevant square kilometres. But in rural areas, it is are section 8(3) and old sectIon 8(4). Now more than one hundred square kilometres. 8 (4) has been replaced by 8(~) for an So, it is very difficult to know a person application under section 8 '2). But section personally. If police station is there, then 8(5) is fo be read af!er section (3). If ydu it will be helpful for the fictitious and read section 8\3) and 8 5) together you frivolous cases. Therefore it should be will find why we are using the words 'found' struck down. I have gone through the and 'residence'. It is a matter of drafting. speech of Hon. Mini<:ter. He has said that Kindly read section 8( 3) which is not 3 kms is not proper because of the fact touched. 8 ( 3) has been amended only to that it is sometimes confusin~. If it is so, replace 3 kms by police station area and then I have made my amendment properly the rest of it remains untouched. I am that let it be a gram panchayat area or reading 8(3) : revenue village pancbayat. ~ hich is very much accurate as much as the police station • 'Every application made under sub- section (2) shall be made in such is accurate It has got a border. So, I form and in such manner as may be think, at this moment, the Hon Minister will prescribed and shall t-e accompanied accept my amendments. by affidavits sworn by Dot less thtm PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: 1 had made two persons residing (now it is police three amendmf"nts but I will speak only on station area) in which the person one. It is for the consideratIon of the HOn. referred to in the application is Mil1ister, who is a very capable barrister, found, or residing. corroboratmg the that this sub·clause (2) of section 8 in my averments made in the application ... " opinion. is redundant and should be deleted, because why should an individual citizen SHRI SOMNATH 'CHATTERJEB: That have the nght to go with a complamt. He 'found' is for the person who makes tbe should have no right be~ause fhe Governmert affidavit? of India or the State Government can take notice of the illegal migrants existmg at SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: 'Fomur any point of time in Assam. So, why is is for the person against whom the complaint it necessary that you ask IDdivldual members has been made. of the socIety to come forward with com- plaints? And now you say that you ha\e SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: straitened the law. I beg to dIffer with you Then he has to attend the hearing before the because that indiVidual member hitherto Tribunal ..• had to pay Rs 25 ~nd now you "ant hIm to pay Rs. 10/-. which Mr. Banatwalla says, is very cheap because somebody else's SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: First be citizenship is at stake So I have said tbat said that 'found' is for tbe complainaat. Wben I told him tbat 'found' is not for the instead of Rs. 25 It should be Rs. 30. I wanted to say Rs. 100. This is how I complainant but the respondant, be accepts reacted to this Provision. Therefore, I would tbat. 339 Illegal Migrants MARCH 29, 1988 Illegal Migrants 3aJO (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill Now. tbere is a Dew sectiOD 8(5). It Pale 2, line 11,- reads like tbis. AfW_ you read section B(3), tbe new section 1{S) reads tbus; "Every for "police station" substitute "police application under sub-section (2) sball be outpost" (34) made to tbe Tribunal witbin tbe territorial Page 2, line 20,- limits of wbose jurisdiction the person named in such application is found or, as the case after "no" insert "fixed or perma- may be, bas his place of residence, at tbe nent" (36) time of making such application." It follows logically from tbe language of sub-section (3) Page 2, line 27,- of section 8. In SUb-section ('3) of section 8, the words used are 'found or residing', and after "his" insert "fixed or perma- bere again in sub-section (5), it says 'found nent" (~7) or as tbe case may be, residinl'· Both are co~sistent with eacb otber. Page 2, Jine -I 2,- MR. CHAIRMAN: I shall now put for "ten" substitute • 'seventy-five" (42) all tbe amendments moved to clause 4 of tbe Bill to the vote of tbe House. Page 2,- The question is : om/lline J to 7. (44) Page 2, lines S to 7,- Page 2,- for • 'witbin tbe jurisdiction of the same police station wberein tbe appli- after !ine 28, iasert- cant bas bis place of residence" "(6) Every reference under sub-section (1) or section 8A, shall be accont- substitute "at a place within two kilo- panied by a statement giving full metres from tbe place of residtloce of particolars of such facts, proof and the applicant" (5) evid(nce OD basis of wblcb the reference has been ma after sub-section (1) Page 2, line t 1.- true" "and every application under lub..section (2)". (8) for "the jurisdiction of tbe same police station" substitute "kilometres of the area or Page 2,- the jurisdiction of tbe lame &ram omil Iincs 20 to 28. (9) pancha),at or the jurisdiction of the lame Revenue ViJlage-Mowza" (56) Pap 2, line 6,- Pap 2,- for ··police station" substitute "police outpost" (33) 9mll ,ines 20 t9 28. ('8) 341 Illegal Migrants CHAltRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Illegai Migralltl §d (Determination by Tribuna/s) (Determination by Tribuna/s) Arndt. Bill Arndt. Bill Page 2, Iino J 2,- Barrow. Sbri A. B. T. for "ten" substitute "thirty" (67) Bbarat Singb, Shri Bbardwaj, Shri Parasram Page 2, linc 20.- Bbo!. Dr. Krupasindbu after ·'no'· insert "permanent or Bhumij, Sbri Haren temporary" (68) Birbal, Sbri Dirinder Singh, Shri Page 2. line lJ,- Budania, Sbri Narendra after "bis" insert "permanent or Cbandrakar, Sbri Cbandulal temporary'" (69) Cbaturvedi. Sbri Naresh Chandra The Lok Sabha divided: Cbaudhary, Shri Manpbool Singh Chidambaram. Shri P. Divisioo No. 7] [15.41 brs. Choudhary, Sbri Japnnath Cboudhury, Shri Samar Brahma AYES Das, Shri R. P. Dennis, Shri N. Acharia, Shri Dasudeb Dhariwal, Sbri Shanti Banatwalla. Shri G. M. Dighe, Shri Sharad Basu, Shri Anil Digvijay Sinh, Sbri Chowdhary. Shri Saifuddin Dandavate, Prof. Madhu Dlksbit, Shrimati Sheila Hannan Mollah, Shri Dube, Sbri Bhisbma Dco Engti, Sbri Diren Singh Hansda, Shri Matilal Gaekwad, Shri Ranjit Singb Iyer, Shri V. S. Krishna Ghosh, Sbri Bimal Kanti Kban. Sbri Mobd. Mahfooz Ali Ghosb, Shri Tarun Kanti Malik, Sbri Purna Chandra G 'Jpeshwar, Shri Misra. Shri Satyagopal Goswami, Shri Dinesh Riyan, Shri Baju Ban Guha, Dr. Phulrenu Roypradhan, Shri Amar Gupta. Sbrimati Prabhawati Saha, Sbri Ajit Kumar Jagannatb Prasad, Sbri Saba, Sbri Gadadbar Jain, Shri Virdhi Chander Sait, Shri Ebrahim Sulaimao Jangde, Sbri Khelan Ram Sbababuddin. Sbri Syed Soz, Prof. Saifuddin Jatav, Sbri Kammodilal Tiraky. Sbri Piyus Jena, Shri Cbintamani KaJpana Devi, Dr. T. NOES Keyur, Bbusban. Sbri Khan, Shri Mohd. Ayub Abdul Gha(oor. Sbri Kinder Lal, Sbri ADaari, Shri Abdul Hannan Kujur, Sbri Maurice Arunacbalam, Sbri M. Lachchbi Ram, Shri Ataur Rahman, Sbri Law, Shri Asutosh Balhel. Sbri Pratapainb Madhurco Sin8h. Shrimati Baaun Sumbrui, Shr~ Mehta, Sbri Haroobhai ~43 Illegal Migrants MA~CH .29, 1988 Illegal Migrants ~44 (Determination "by Trlb.unals) (Dnterminatlon by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill Misbra, Sbri G. S. Sparrow. Shri R. S. Misbra, Shri Urnakant Sreenivasa Prasad, Sbri V. Misra, Sbri Nityananda Sukhbuns Kaur. Sbrimati Naik, Sbri Shantaram Swami Prasad SlOgb, Shri Pandey, Sbri Damodar Tanti. Shri Bhadreswar Pandey. Sbri Madan Thakkar, Shrimati Usb. Pandey I Shri Manoj Tigga, Shri Simon Panika. Shri Ram pyare Tripathi, Dr. Cbandra Shekhar Parashar, Prof. Narain ChaDd Vyas. Sbri Girdhari La) Pardhi, Sbri Keshaorao Wasmk, Shri Mukul Pradban, Shri K. N. Yadav, Shri Ram Singb Pradh~i. Sbri K. Yadava, Shri D. P. Puran Chandra. Sbri Zainul Basber. Shri Purohit, Shri Banwan Lal Pusbpa Devi. Kumari MR. CHAIRMAN: Subject to cor~· Qureshi. Sbri Aziz tion, the result* of the dlvls",n IS : Rai. Sbri I. Rama Ayes: 019 Raj Karan Singb. Sbri Rajhans, Dr. G. S. Noes: 106 Ram Awadb Prasad, Shri The mOlion was negatlv~d Ram Dhan, Sbri MR. CHAIRMAN : The queslion is : Ram Samujhawan, Sbn Ram Singh. Shri '"1 hat clause 4 stand part of the Ranga, Prof. N. G. BIll". Rao, Sbn P. V. NarasHnba The motIOn was adopted. Rathod. Sbri Uttam Rawat. Shri Prabbu Lal Clause 4 was added to the Bill. Reddi. Shri C. Madbav Reddy. Shri M. Ragbmua Clause 6 (Iosection of New Section 8A) Saikia. Shri M. R. Sakarpym. Sbri KaJicbaran SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : I beg to move: Sa,ccd, Sbri P. M. SeD. Sbri Bbolanath Page 2 and 3, lines 43 and 1 and 2 Sethi, Shri Ananta Prasad respective]y- Sbailelh, Dr. B. L. /0' oe the jurtsdiction of tbe same re- Sharma. Shri Chiranji La) venue sub·division in which the Surma. Shri Nand Kisbore apphcant resides" Sharma, Sbri Nawallt.ilhore ,ubsilure • 'two kilometres of the area in wbich the p~rson referred to in the Shastri. Shri Hari Krishna application is found or residing". (10) Siddiq, Sbri Hafiz Mohd. Sinab. Shri Kamla Prasad *The following members also recorded liDIh Dea, Shri K. P. their votes :- AYES: Shri Somnath Chatterjee and Sbri SoIanki, Sbri KaI)'an SiDJh S.M. Guraddi SOI'ID, Sbri Harihar NOES: Sbri Paras Cbaliba t j4~ 1J/egal"Migrants CHAITRA 9, 191() (SAKA) Illegal Mig'41lts j4& (Determination by Migrants] (Determination by Migrants) Amdt. Bill Arndt. Bill Page 3. line 5,- PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I beg to move: lor "ten" subltltute "two" l t 1 ) Page 3. line 11.- Page 3, line 6,- after "00" insert "permanent or fiN "tcn" ,ub,tltUle "two" (12) temporary" (0) SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: r beg MR. CHAIRMAN: I shall put all tbe to move: amcodments to clauses 5 togetber to the vote of tbe house. Page 3, line 1,- Ame"dmenll Nos. 10 to 12, 38, 39. 46, lor ·'revcoue sub·divisioo" subslitflle- 47, 59, 60 and 70 were put and .' Gram Panchayat or Revenue negatIved. Village" (38) MR. CHAIRMAN: I shaH now put Page 3, lioe 11,- clause S to tbe vote of tbe House. a/ttr "00" Inser' "fixed or perma- oent (39) The Question is : • The clause S stand part of tbe BiD." SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: I beg to move: The motion wal adop/~d. Clause 5 was added to the Bin. Page 2.- a/ler hne 40. tnsert- MR. CHAIRMAN: There is no amend- ment to clause 6 : The question is : "Provided tbat no such apphcation shall be entertained by tbe Central "Tbat clause 6 stand part of tbe Governmeot uoless the person 10 Biil." relation to whom the apphcation IS made. resides, at a place wlthlQ three The motion was adopted. kilometres from tbc place of residence of tbe apphcant." (46) Clause 6 Was added to tbe Bill. Clause 7 (Am_meat of sectioa 12) Page 2, line 43,- for "a declaration by aoother persoo" saRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : I beg to ,ub!tiIUle- move: "affidavits sworn by not less than two persons" (47) Page 3,- omillin.:s 23 to 33. (13) SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: I beg to move: SHRI DJ NBSH GOSWAMI: J bel to move: Page '. line 43,- /or: • 'another person" ~ub$'itute Page 3, line 22.- "two persoos" (59) I odd at the eod~- Page 3, liDe 1.- 'and after tbe existing proviso ~ lor "reveuue sub·division" sub,'llll/~ following proviso sbaD be iosertcd, ",ram pancbayat of Revenue Villase· Damely:- Mowzatt (60) 341 Illegal Migrants MAkCH 29, 1988 Illegal Migrants ~4A (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Arndt. Bill Arndt. Bill "Provided further that notwithstand· speCial situation in Assam, for people who ing anything contained in the Indian came after 2'tb March, 1971. People wbo Evidence Act. 18'12 or the foregoing came in between J 966 and 197 I. arc governed provisions of the Act or any other by tbe Foreigners' Act. People who came law for tbe time beiog io . force, in after 25tb Marcb, 1971 are governed by decidinl tbe question in a reference the Illegal Migrants (Determination by under sub-section (1) of section 8 or Tribunals) Act, SCGtion 12 of this Act is a section 8A or an application under wbolesome provisioo. We have explained sub-section (2) of section 8 of the it to tbe leaders of Assam. As early as Act. the onus of proving whether a 1920. in tbe Privy CouDcil. tbe proposition person is or is oot an illegal migrant, was laid down: "Tbat wben tbe entire shall be in accordance with the evidence of both sides is before the court, provisions of the ForeigneR Act. the debate as to onus is purely academical". 1946." (27) If you will kindly read section 12. it says: that tbe entire evidence shall be taken into Sir. this amendment relates to the point account. on which we bad the bardest of hargaini nB and neither Mr. Chidambaram could con- "The Tribunal can make such inquiry vince me nor I could convince him. My as it may think fit and lather such amendment is that on the question of burden evidence as it deems fit." of proof, the ilIepl Migrants (Determina- In such a case. the question of burden tion by Tribunals) Act should have the same of proof is immaterial. When we could not provisions as is prevalent in the Foreigners, agree to it we agreed to refer the matter to Act. Today the situation is that if a pe-rson tbe Attorney General and to abide by his is arrested in Nagaland, Meghalaya and advice. The Attorney General of IndIa bas West Bengal or in other parts of the country. given his written opinion wbicb bas been the burden will be upon him to whom tbe shared witb the Government of Assam tbat notice is given to prove that he is not a section 12 as it stands, is a wbolesome foreiper. provision and no amendment sbould or need be made on the question of burden. If a notice goes under the Foreign:rs' Act. where a person is alleged tbat he is a I once again appeal to Mr. Dinesh foreigner. io all otber parts of tbe country, Goswami and to tbe leaders of Assam not except Assam, tbe burden would be upon to open up tbis' controversy again but to him to prove tbat he is not a foreigner. But accept section 12 as it is and not to move in Assam. the burden would be upon tbe any amenJment in this behalf. person wbo afteaes. Secondly. if the com- plaint relates to a period prior to 24th March, 1971. tbat beina a case which is SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA You covered by the Foreigners' Act. tbe burden cannot put his amendment to the vote. This would be upon the persons concerned is my point of order. It is violative of tbe &pinst whom notices arc given. If it is Constitution. Tbe Hon. Minister has said after that period, tbe burden would be Upon ahat tbe Attorney General bas also said tbe applicant. I foel, it is discriminatory. about it. (Interrupllons) There sbould be one law-whether you decide to put tbe burden on the applicant or MR. CHAIRMAN: Tbere is no point tbe person apinst wbom the allegation is of order. I will now put the amendment made. Tbere .bouJd be one Ja fI in the moved by Shri Basudeb Acharia to vote. COIIIltry. We are opposed to tbi. discrimi- natory treatmellt. Tberefore, my amendment AtMndm~nl No. 1J waf put and .egatiNd. om, restores back tbe position of tho Poroiaoen' Act. MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, I will put amendment No, 17 moved by Shri Dineah SHIU P. CHIDAMBARAM: am GOIwami to vote. lorry, J am not acceptioa tbit amctndmeor. W. baw made it \Wf elcar tJaat this it. .4tMtIIIment ND. 27 WQI put tIIId IlflltUb•• 349 Illegal Migrants CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) Illegal Migrants 350 (Determination by Tribunals)' (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill MR. CHAIRMAN: Tbe question is: Page 4, line 3,- "That clause 7 stand part of the Bill." for "not IFsS than" ,ub.tltute "not more tban" (28) The motion wao! adopted. Mr. Chidambaram. kindly look to sub-section (6) of section S. Tbe language, Clause 7 "as added to tbe Bill as an: ended. will be : • 'The powers and functions of au Tbere is no amendment to clauses 8 and 9. Appellant lribunal may be exercised MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is and discharged by the President that: there(.'f, from amongst tbe members thereof and whicb may be either a singJe member bench or benches "That clauses 8 and 9 stand part of constituted of not Jess than two the Bill". members." The motion wao! adopted. Now, it should not be more tban two members. The idea is that it should be Clauses 8 and 9 "ere added to tbe Bill either a single member bencb or members must be one. Then you are saying not less than two. Clause 10 (Amendment of section 15) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, we come to Thank God, you did vot say not less than clause 10. Shrl Basudeb Acharia. one! SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : I beg to SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI : I do not move: know wby the matters are treated so )jehUy. The words mean there can be any number. Page 3,- It may be either a single member bench. aller line 4', in"ut_ SHRI P. CHJDAMBARAM : This is to "(a) in sub-section {2), after the provide for interiocutory applications, words ··High Court" the words "and interim applications, adjournments. Tbese without consultation with the Chief can be disposed of by a single member Justice of India" sball be inserted .' bench. Sub... tantive matters can be heard (14) , by a bench of not less tbaD 2 members. SHRI DINESH GOSW AMI: Please Page ~, line 45,- make it clear. lor ··less than two" 8ubstilute "Jess than five" ( , 5) SHRI P. CH1DAMBARAM ; It is clear. You please leave It to the Chairman to Page 4.- decide administratively. The Chief Justice of the High Court decides always adminis- for Jines J to 4, substltUfe- tratively. '(b) in sub·section (6), for the words SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: I do not· "two members", the words "five understand. We are saying that it should be members" shdU be substiTuted;' (t 6) a single member bench or benches consistiDl of not less tban two members. The second SHill DINESH GOSWAMI: I beg to part takes away tbe power to consist a berdl mov~ : of one member. 351 Illegal Migrants MARCH 29, 1988 Illegal Migrants 351. (Determinatioll by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill SHRr P. CHIDAMBARAM: No. It MR. CHAIRMAN: Sbri Dincab Oos- should be either a sinlle member bench or wami. are you moving your amendment ~ it should be a bench of 2 or 3 or 4 mem- bers. This must be left to the Chairman to SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: 1 beg to decide which matter should be disposed of move: by a single member bencb, which will be Page 4_ interlocutory matters and adjournments, petitions and ciarifications. Substantive after line 10, insert_ matters will be beard by benches of not less "(a) in sub-flection (2) the words. than 2 or 3 depending on the importance "the decision on such point sban, of the case. You must trust the -:'bairman. where there is a majority. be accord- A High Court Judge is going to preside in~ to the opinion of such majority. over it, and where there is no majority and the Memb~rs are equally divided in. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: In view their opinion, "lbaH be omitted." of tbe clarification, I am not pressing tbe amendment. (29) MR. CHA1R~AN : I shall now put MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you want to tbe amendments Nos. t 4, 15 and 16 to speak? Clause to moved by Sbri Basude!: Acbaria to the vote of tbe House SHRl D1NESH GOSW AMI: No. I am A~nd~nt' NOl. 14 10 16 wer~ put and not speaking. n~alivt'd MR. CHAIRMAN: 1 shall now put MR. CHAIRM AN: Mr. Dinesh Gos- the amendment No. 17 moved by Shri wami, are you witbdrawing your amendment Basudeb Acbuia to the vote of t he House. No. 28. SURI DINESH GOSWAMf : Yes, Aml'"dm~nt No 11 was put a"d ",gtJlfwJ. MR. CHAIRMAN: Has Sbri Dinesh MR. CHAIRMAN: I shan now put the Goawami tbe leave of tbe House to witbdra90 amendment No, ., 9 moved by Shri Dineab his amendment? Goswami to the vote of tbe House. SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes. Am,ndment No. 29 was put aud "tgatived A~fldme"t No. 28, by leave. withdrawn MR. CHAIR MAN: The question is: Tbis question is : "That Clause 11 stand part of the Bill." "That Clause to stand part of the Bill." The motio,. was adopted The moli.)n was adopted. Clause 11 was addtd to tbe Bill Clause JO was added to tbe Bill Clause 12 (substitutioD of Dew sectJoo aUIie J I (AllleDdmeat of section 16) for sectien .". MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Basudeb Acbaria, are you movina your amendment? SHRf BASUDEB ACHARIA: Sir, I beg to move : SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: I bel to move: Pale 4,- Paae 4- Omll lines 17 and 18" (17) alter lioc 29 f I""rl- '$3 1!*~1 MIINJ"!' CHAtTtlA 9. 1910 (SAKA) Illegal M/gfD." " .. (Deternunatlon by !'flbunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Arndt. BIll Amdt. Bill '(3) The Higb Court may call for the may make lucb order in the case as it' record of any case wbicb has been thinks fit where such Tribunals or Appellate decided by a Tribunal or by tbe Tribunal commits an error of law or fact. Appellate Tribuna.l situated within its So, tbis safeguard must be tbere in the Act. jurisdiction and may make such order in the case as it thinks fit where such Tribunals or Appellate Tribunal com- SHRI G M. BANATWALLA: Mr. mits ao error of law or fact. Chairman. Sir, my amendment is to retain the revisionary pDwer!> of the High court. Explaffll'ion-Jn tbis sub-section. the Now, Sir. the only objection tbat the Hon. expression "any case wbich has been Minister bas is - tbat the retention of the decided" includes any order made or revi-:;ionaTY power of the High Court vide any order decidiog ao issue in the this Bill is superfluouli. He has referred to course of proceedings before the Article 216 and Article 227 of tbe Consti- Tribunal or the AppeJlate Tribunal'. It bllS, (18) tution. however. been pointed out to him that there are cl!rtaio difficulties witb SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Sir, I respect to Articles 226 and 227. There is beg to move: no very basic cr fundamental objection by the Hon. Minister except sa) ing tbat it is Page 4,- merely sl.perfluous. I will. therefore, say lor clause 12. substitute- that in view of the difficulties alr~ady point- ed out with respect to Articles 226 and 227. tC 12. After section 16 of the principal this provision fer t"le revisionary power of Act. the following section shall be 1 the High Court should be retained in this substituted nal. ely :- very Act i1self. "16A. (1) Every Appellate Tribunal shall have superintendence over all the SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: Sir, I am Tribunals in the State. sorry. I bave already explained that the (~) Without prejudice to tbe gene- powers under Articles 226 and 227 are mucb rality of the foregoing provisions, the wider than tbe reVisionary powers conferred Appellate Tribunal may- by Sectioo 17 In fact, I do not know why Section J 7 was put in the first place. (a) call for returns from any Tribu- (Interruptions) A provision like tbis cuts into Dal; tbe amplitude of Articles 226 and 227. (b) make general rule~ and specify Articles 226 and 22'" confer much wider forms for regulating the practice powers than Section 17. We are now retain- and ptoceedmas of Tribunals ~ ing tbe wider provision and deleting this and provision. (c) specify the forms in which books, eotries aod accounts shall be MR. CHAIRMAN: I shaH now put the kept by the officers of Tribu- amendment moved by Shri Basudeb Acbaria nals.".' (49) to the vote of the House. SHRI BASVDEB ACHARIA: Sir. this is an important amen.!ment. The power of Amendment No. 18 wa~ put and Mgati"ed. the Hish Court for revision of any decision takeo by the Tribunal, that power is :lOW beiDa taken away. Only if there is any MR. CHAIRMAN: I shall now put the injustice or any error under Article 226 be amendment moved by Shri G. M. Banatwalla can make an appeal. But tbis is one of the to the vote of the House. aafeauard~ apinst any error or against any frivolous complaint. That safeguard has Amendment No. 49 wa' put and ItegQIMd. hoen provided in the preseot Act. So, my amen(fment is that the High Court may call for tbe record of any case which bas been MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is : decided by a Tribunal or by the Appellate "That Oause J 2 stand part of tbe Tribunal situated withio itli jurisdiction and Bill" • 35 5 '"~ol Mtgrontl MAR.CH 29,1988 11I~(d MlgrtJnt, 356 (Determination bl' Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunal,) Amdt. Bill I Arndt. Bill Th~ motion was Qdopt~d. 16 hr•• Clause 12 was added to the Bm. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : Sir, in two Clause 13 (Amendment of Section 20) places in this Bill, we have been re-assured and it has been written "into the law", that SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : Sir. I the police officer shall not be below the rank bel to move: of a superintendent of police. But we know Page 4,- that the Superintendents of Police do not always act by themselves Therefore, thIS 10, Jines 33 to 38, $ubditute protection is illusory. They act on the advice finally of tne constable as the H()n. Minister "(2) The Central Government may apply thinks the Superintendent of Police to be. I to the High Court for directions, if have suggested tbat as a matter of safeguard, necessary. for carrying out an order let the police officer whosoever passes the made under sub·section (1) of tbls order, who shall be of the rank not below section". (19) the Superintendent of Police should, if the circumstances so require and for reasons to SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Sir, I be recorded in writting, exercise tbe powers beg to move: that are vested in bim. That is to say, ordinarily a person who bas been determined Page 4, line 34,- to be a foreigner and bas been put on notice to leave the country should be- arrested only ofter- • 'Police"l"s~'t- if he does not comply with the order in a • 'if tbe circumstances so require and bona /ilk manner and wishes to bold up the for reasons to be recorded in wrIting". process of law for reasons to be recorded in (40) writing giving the circumstances. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Sir. I beg to move: SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Mr. Page 4.- Chclirman. I bave only to say that there should be certain reasonable terms in order for lines 33 to 38, lub'tlut~- to see tbat A~am does not turn into a Polke Raj. I. therefore. say that if it is so neces- "(2) Any police officer not below the sary for the police officer to bind a person rank of Superintendent of p'JUce then he can make a reference to the tribunal may. make a reference to the Tri- and draw his autbority to do so from the bunal to obtain authonty to requIre tribuna1. It is a very reasonable restriction a bond from any persan for the due and I hope this WIll be accepted by the compliance of an order under sub- Government. section (I) and to arre<;t such person in the event of his failure to furnish such bond as may have SHRI P. C'HIDAMB.'.RAM : Sir Clause been laid down by tbe Tribuna'''. I , introduces ~ub-section (2) to Section (20) (43) and I have tried to explain earlier that sub- section (2) to Section (20) appJies only in tbe case of sub-section (I) to (20) where SURI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Sir. I a person has already been determined to be beg to move: an illegal migrant and an order for his removal has been passed by the tribunal. This is reatly a power in aid of executing Page S. 4, lines 33 and 34,- tbe order. lor ·'Superintendent of Police" "blll- IU"- MR. CHAIRMAN: I shall DOW put all the amendments to Clause 1 3 to tbe vote of "pirector General of Police'·. (63) the House. 35' ll/qal Migranl6 CHAITRA 9, 1910 ~SAkA) Illegal Migranl8 3;1 (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill Amendment, NOl. 19. 40. 43 and 63 were '"Notwitbstanding allytbing contained put and negatIved. in any other Jaw for the time being fn force, it shall be lawful for a police MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is : officer not below the rank of a Superintendent r of Police. if be is ·'That Clause 13 stand part of the satisfied tbat the circumstances ..... Bill." The molion wa, adopted It is totally a subjective appreciation of tbe police officer in relation to a particular Clause J3 was added to the Bill. person against whom complaints will he Claule 14 (Insertion of new Section 21 A made tbat tbe said police officer can bind blm at his discretion. This is giving excess- SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHA R Y : ive powers, un-qualified powers to the police beg to move: officers. I understand what you say about Section 13A. When a verdict is pronounced, Page 5,- tben it is a matter of execution. No doubt for lines 3 to 13. substiluu about it. Here, wben reference bas been "21 A. The Central Government may given, no verdict has been pronounced. It is depute an officer not below the rank a total denial of justice. It is a provocation of Director General of P'llice belong- to the police officer to harass the innocent ing to a cadre outsIde the State of citizens I wanted to remove ttis Clause from Assam for tbe purpose of just and thiS Bill. Tbat is why, I moved mt amend- and proper implementation of the ments. I believe. tbe Minister. in all fairness provisions of tbe Act." (20) will understand the apprehensions regarding thiS Clause and will accept it. . SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA : I beg to move: SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: Mr. Cbairman. this clause adds one more section Page 5. hne 3,- to the Principal Act whereby sweeping powers are given to tbe police officers to ask for for a bond and restrict tbe movement of a person against whom enquiries are beill8 "Notwithstanding anything contained made. Look at the clallse. The whole thing in any otber law." is there. Wbile I object to tbis, I must also point out tbat tbis autbority is given to tbe ,ubsti/ute police officer notwithstanding anything con- tained in any otber law for tbe time being in I 'Subject to the provisions of any force. So, in Assam it is provided tbat no law." (SO) law sball apply with respect to any restriction upon tbe police officers. Tbe police officers SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN I beg are entitled to seek bonds at their pleasure. to move: Tbis is Assam and aU restrictions on police officers to act in Assam shall be outside Assam; shaU not be in Assam. Pale S.- for lines 3 to 13, ,ubst;tute Wbat is this? The civilised laws of the land are all jettisoned in order to give sweep· "2 1 A. The Central Government may ing powers to the police officers in Assam. depute an officer not below tbe rank of Director Genc:ral of Police belonging I bave already said wbat is tbe situation to a cadre outside tbe State of Assam in Assam. I don't want to repeat it. But at for tbe pllrpose of just and proper tbis late juncture also I appeal to the implementation of tbe Act." (64) Government not to have tbe law of tIM jungle and no~ to have absolute lawlessness SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHAR Y in Assam. At least tbe police officers must If we: scc: the position, it 5&)'8 i fet subject 'Q (he laws that have bccIl __ 3~9 1t1.1 Migrants . MAR.CH 29, 1988 IHqill AtttrMt8 '346 (Det~,.mi'lfllti/m by Tribunals) (Deurmination by Tribunals) . Amtlt. lli II Amdt. ~ill '6y this PatJiament fl.. t Assam as also for SOME HON. MEMBERS: Yes. We ot'be( places. There is 1\0 teas on wby tbese wan t division. an otb~r laws be jettisoned whatsoever. MR. CHAIRMAN: Let the lobbies be cleared. While I object to the very right beiDg MR. CHAIR MAN: Lobbies have been JiveD to tbe police officers. I also say tbat cleared. The questioo is : it is tbe height of callousness and dereliction Page S.- or duty to safe&uard tbe hapless persons to say tbat tbe police officers will bave tbese lor Jines 3 tod 13. substilute ripts notwitbstanding the provisions of BDY c, 2 , A. Tbe Central Government may 1.. for the time being in force in our depute an officer not below tbe rank country••• ( I" ter,uptions) of Director General of Police belong- ing to a cadre outside the State of saRI A'MAR ROYPRADHAN : 10 this Assam for tbe purpose of just and new provision. tbe Jaw of tbe Jand bas been proper implementation of the pro- denied and the police ba\e been given more visions of the Act." (20) powers. So my amendment is very mucb clear tbat at least to safeguard the citizens against Page 5. line 3.- its being a police raj. the Central Govern- for ment may depute an officer not below the "Notwithstanding anything contained rank of Director General of PolIce belonging to a cadre outside the Slate of Assam for tbe in any other law". purpose of just and proper implementation sub"lltule of the Act. I think the Hon. Minister will ~""Cpt my amendment. "Subject to the provisions of any law'>. (50) SllRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I can understand tbe apprehensions of Hon. Page 5,- Members. But the point is. reany one has for lines 3 to I 3, substitute to read the new sectIon 21 A. with Clause ·'2IA. The Central Government may 16(c) of th: Btll which provides that the depute an officer not below the rank manner of arre!t and dch.ntion \. nder tbe of Director General of Police belong- proviso to sectIon 2 1 A Wl!! be regulated by iog to a cadre outside the State of rules. Why we introduced t}-lit; is, If a person Assam tor tbe purpose of just and apinst whom an application is pendlDg or proper Implementation of tbe Act. tt a reference is pendmg changes bas re5idence, (69) there is no way in which we can proceed witb tbe enquiry which requIre his atten- danee. lberefore, tbe first step is that The Lok Sabha divided tbe Superintendent of Police l~ required that he may enter into a oond. It is 001, when be does not furnish a bond, the question of his Division No.8] [J6.14bn 1lt'rest and cktention arises. Therefore, he should furnish a bood biodinl himself. to AYES make bimself available fot the enquiry. If a per80D enters into a bond saying tbat be y, III Acbaria, Shri Basudeb eppeer for the enquiry, this provision will . vt Banatwalla. Shri G. M. pose any grave problem to bim. 1 bave abo auured Hon. Members that wben tbe rules Chowdharyt Sbri Saifuddin are framed, we ",m eDlure that there is r,o Dandavate. Prof. Madhu pr~sion for exccuti"e abuse. It is only to Datta. Shri Amal ~e that persons apinst whom references are made, make tbemselves available for Hannan Mollab, Shri eaqmry. Hansdat Sbri Matila) . ·Ma. CHAIRMAN: Sha111 put all. Iyer. Sbri V. S. Krishna puw amendments toaetbor 1 KbaD, Shri Mobd, Mahfooz AU 361 1I/qaj Jltp_. CHAttiA '.,ltlO (tAKA) IIltg'aJ NlIIMtt,.. H~ (Determinlltion by Tribunals) tDetermintltitHt /Jy TribUlftlls) Amdt. Sill Amdt.~1 Malik. Shri Purna Chandra Jain. Shti Virdbi 'CbMlder MIsra, Sbri satyaaopal Kalpana Devi. Dr. T. &iyan. Slad ~ju Ban Khan. Shri Mohd. A"", Roypradban, Shri Amar Kindtr Lal. Shll Saba. Sbti Ajit Komar Kujur. Shri Maurice Sa.ha, Sbri Gadadbar Lacbcbhi Ram, Sbri Saito Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman Law, Sbri Asotosb Sbahabuddin, Sbri Syed Madhuree Singh. Silrimati Soz, Prof. Saifuddin Mallick~ Sbd Laktbman Tlraky. Shri Piyus Mavaoi. Shrimati Patel RamabeD aamjibbai NOES Misbra. Shri G. S. Misbra, Shri Slaripati Akhtar Hassan. Sbri Misbra. Shri Umakant Anlari, Sbri Abdul Hannan Misra. Sbri Nltyanand. Arunachalam, Sbri M. Naik. Shri Shantaram Awastbi. Sbri Jagdisb Pandey. Shri Madan Ba,bel .. Shri Pratapsinb Panika. Sbri R.am Pyare Baaun Sumbrui, Sbri Panwar, Sbri Satyanaray.n Barrow, Shri A. E. T. Parashar, Prof. Narain Chaad Bbardwaj. Shr; Parasram Pardhi, Shri Kcshaorao Bhoi. Dr. Krupasindbu Pasw8n, Shri Ram Bbapt Bbumij. Shri Haren Pradhan, Shti K. N. Bubat. Sbri Puran Chandra, Shri Barinder Singh. Sbri Pushpa Devi. Kumari Budania, Sbri Narendra Qureshi, Shd A2.iz Cbaturvedi. Sbri Naresb Cbandra Raj Karan Singh. Shrj Chaudbary, Sbri Manpbool Sinah Rajbans. Dr. G. S. CbJdambaram, Sbri P. Ram. Sbri Ram Ratan Cboudbury, Shri Samar Brahma Ram, Shri &amswllJ'DOl) Das Sbri R. P. Ram Awadh Prasad. Shri Dennis, Sbri N. Ram Dban. Sbri DilVij11 Sinb, Sbri Ram Samujhawan, Sbd Dlksbit, Sbrimati Shiela Ram Smgh, Sbri Bnati, Shri Biren Sinah Ranll, Peof. N. G. Gadall. Sbri V. N. RIo, 8bri A. 1. V. B. MaIleawara Gaekwad, 8.bri Ranjit Singh RIo, Shei J. Vengala Gaikwad, Sbri Udaysinlrao Rao. Shri P. V. Narasimha Gbosh, Shri Bimal Kanti RI thod, Sbri Uttam Goawami. Sbri Dins Rawat, Sbri Kamla Prasad Gube. Dr. PbulreDu Re4di, Shri C. Madbav Gupta, Sbtimati Prabbawati Reddy. Sbri M. Raabuma Japooatb Prasad, Shri Saiki .. SIItI M. B. 3'~ IJJ.gal MilrtIIIlI MAkeH 21». 1988 llkgal Mlgranl, ~64 (Determination by Tribuna/s) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdl.Bili Anult. Bill Sakarg.ym. Shri KaUcbaran The molion wa.r adopted. Sayeed. Shri P. M. Clause 14 ... lU lidded to 1o the Bill Sethi, Sbri ADapt. Prasad Clause 15 (Amendment of Secti... 25) Shahi, Sbri Lalitcsbwar Sbarma, Sbri Cbiraojl Lal SHRI BASUDEB ACHA.tUA: I beg to Sharma, Sbri Nand Kisbmc move: Pagc S- Sharma, Shri Nawal Kisborc Shastri. Sbri Bari Krishna lor clause 1 S, subslilute- Sbcrvani, Sbri Saleem I. 'I S. 10 section 2S of the principal Act, for tbe words Siddiq, Sbri Hafiz Mobd. Sinah, Sbri Kamla Prasad , 'Tbree years and shall also be hable to fine" tbe words "three montbs or Smgb, Sbri La! Vijay Pratap Ii fine of Jcss tban tbreCi bundr~d Smgb Dca, Sbri K. P. rupees" shall be subsututed." (2.1) SoJanki, Shri Ka)yan Slngb Soren, Sbn Haribar SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: I beg to move: Sukbbuna Kaur. Sbrimati Sunder SiD8h. Ch. Page S,- Swami Prasad S.ingb, Sbd after hne 23, In6tTI- Tanti, Shri Bbadrcswar Tewary, Prof. K. K. '(b) afler section '2'. tbe following sub- Thakkar, Sbrimati Usba sectIon (2) sball be rnserted, namely: Tiaa, Shri Simon Verma. Shrimati Usba II ( 2) If the Tn bunal is satisfied that any application under Vyas. Sbri Girdbari La} sub-section (2) of scclion 8 Wasnik, Sbri Mukul IS frivolous or vexatious or Yadav. Sbri Ram Siogb bas not been made in good faitb, tbe Tribunal sball Yadava. Sbri D. P. record the fact and the Zasnul Basber, Shri applicant shall be punishable MR.. CHAIRMAN: Subject to corrcc- witb imprisooment for a term tion tbe result· of the Division is : wbich may extend to tbree years and sban also be liable to fioe. (53) Ayea: 19 u: Noea: 100 SIf. some provision must be tbere for action aaainst complaints which arc frivolous The motion was negatiVed. and mala6de in nature. lberefore, my amcndment wishes to provide for action MR.. CBAlllMAN: Tbe qucstion is : apinst luch persons wbo file applicatioos "That clause 14 stand part of tbc in a mala fide manDer. J hope tbis will be Bill." acceptablc: -The followina members also recorded SHIll P. CHI DAMBARAM: This bas their votes : Dotbina to do with section 2~ which is beinl amended by clause J ,. I dOD9 t tbink the AYES: Shri Kama.hray Prasad Sinab rules permit Hon. Member to aivo notice of Sbri Abdul Hamid; aDd ameDdment wbich bas DotblOI to be witb the NOES; Sbri Paraa ChaUba. aectiOD whicb i. beinl amended. g~5 n/~o/ Mlgftl"t, CHAltRA 9. 1910 (SAteA) nkgtll MI6r-" 'IS' (Determination by Tribunals) (Determination by Tribunal,) Amdt. Bill Amdt. Bill MR. CHAIRMAN: Shall 1 put? MR.. CHAIRMAN: The question is : SHRI O. M. BANATWALLA: Why is "That clause I. a8 amended, stand be fighting shy to proceed against people who part of tbe Bill." are reany persecuting '1 The motion was adopted. MR. CHAIRMAN: I sball now put Amendments No 2 J and S 3 to the vote of Clau6e 1. a, 'c..i.e ,ded. was added to ,lte Bill. tbe House, Amendments 'Nos, 21 and 53 w're put Enacting Formala and Pltgativ~d Amendmtnt mad!! : MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is : Page J, line. 1,- "That c1ause 1 5 stand part of the Bill.' , Jor "Thirty-eighth" sUbslitule-- The motion was adopted. "Thirty-ninth" (I) Clause 15 was added 10 the Bill. (Slt,.j P. Chidamba,am) Ciause 16 (Amendment of section 28) MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is : SHRJ BASUDEB ACHARIA: I beg to "That the Enacting Formula, as move: amended, stand part of the BilL" Page 5.- The moltoll wal adopted Enacting Formula, a~ amt!nded WO.:l, omit lines 3" to 37. (22) added to the Bill. MR. CHAIRMAN: I shaIJ now put MR CHAIRMAN: The question is : amendment No, 22. moved by Shri Basudeb Acharia, to the vole of the House. "That tbe lon~ title stand part of tbe Bill." Amendment No, 22 waf 'u, and n gOliv~d. Tltt! motion wa.r adopted. MR. CHAIRMAN . The questions is : The Long Tir/e was addt!d to the Bill. '"That clause J 6 stand part of the BilL" SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: 1 beg to The motion was adopteJ. move: Clause 16 "01 uddtd to rht Bzli. "That the Bill, as amended, be Clause J (Short Fiftbs) passed." Amendment made: MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is : Pale It linc 4,-- "That tbe BIH, as amended, be passed." lor", 987" sub.stllute "t 988" (2) (Sit" P. Chldamba,am) Tht LaIc Sabha diJltkd : .., II,.,. """.. IIlI60I N"'_', 3" (DetRmiJlafJ"" "" T"';6111U1l$) (Determination by Tribunals) Amdt\IJJJIJ Arndt. Bill DlVISION NO. 9 16.25 brI. Lacbchhi Ram, Sbri Law, Sbri Ausutosb Madbutee Silllb. Shrimati Maltic'k. Shri Laksbmao AYES Mavani. Sbrimati Patel Ramaben Ramjibbai Akhtar Hasan, Shri Misbra. Sbri G. S. Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannan Mi!lbra. Shri Sbripati Arunachalam. Sbri Y. Miwa. Shri Umakant Awasthi, Shri Jagdish Misra. Shri Nityananda BqheI, Shri Pratapsinh Naik, Shri Shantaram Baaun Sumbrui, Shri Pandey. Shri Madan Barrow. Sbri A. E. T. Panika. Shri Ram Pyare Bhardwaj Sbrj Parasram Panwar. Shri Satyanarayan BIaoi, Dr. Krupuindhu Parashar. Prof, Narain Chand JIbumij. ShN Haren Pard hi, Shri Keshaorao Birbal. Shri Paswan, Shri Ram Bhagat BiIiDcIer 5iD1b. Sbri Patil, Shri Veerendra Budania. Shri Narendra Pradhan. Sbri K. N, ChaIiba. Sbri Pang Puran Chandra. Shri Cbaodbary Shri Manpbool Singh Pushpa Devi, Kumari Chida..... m.Ari P. Qureshi, Sbri AZIZ Choudhury. Shri Samar Brahma Rai. Shri I. Rama Da. Shri Il. P. Raj Karan Singh, Shri Deanis. Sbri N. Rajhans, Dr. G. S. Dlpijay Sinh. Sbri Ram, Shri Ram RatBD Diklbit. Sbrimati Sheila Ram Awadh Prasad, Shri EaP. Sbri B iren Singh Ram Dban Shri OacJail. Sbri V. N. Ilam Samujhawan, Sbri Oaekwad, SMi hojit SiD&h Ram Singh, Shri Gaikwad. Sbri Udaysin8r&O Ramachandran, Sbri MulJappaJly Ghosh. Sbri Bima} Kanti Ra~ Prof. N. O. Goswami, Sbri Dioesh Reo, Shri A. J. V. B. Mabeswara Gulla, Dr. Pholrenu Rao, Dr. O. VIJaya Rama Gupta, Shrima~i Pcabbawati. Rao, Shri J. Vengala Japonatb Prasad, Shri Rao. Shri P. V. Narasimba Jain Sbri Virdbi Chander Rao. Shri Sribari ICalpana Devi, Dc. T. Rathod. Shri Uttam K.,...... 0, Sbti Rawat. Shri Kamla Prasad KbaD, Sbri Mobel. Ayub Ileddi, Shri C. Madhav KiDder LaI, Sbri I Reddy, Sbri M. Raahuma* Criabna Kumar. Shri S Sailda. Shri M R. KUjar, Sbri Meerice s.waa,m, Sbri -Kalicbarao 5,., 11l,ItJ'Mlg,.,'. CHAITRA' .910 (SAKA) D.O, 88-89-MIII til (Determination by Tribunals) , H.R.D. Arndt. Bill Sayeed, Shri P. M. Soz, Prof. Saifoddin Sethi, Sbri Ananta Prasad Tiraky, Sbri Piyus Sbababuddin. Sbri Syed MR. CHAIRMAN: Subject to correc- Sbarma, Sbri Nand Kishore tion, the result· of tbe division is : Sbarma, Shri NawaJ Kisbore Shastri, Shri H,Hi Krishna Ayes: 103 Sbervani. Shri Saleem I. Noes: J9 Siddiq, Shri Hafiz Mohd. Singb, Shri Karola Prasad TIt~ motion was adopted. Singh, Sbri La) Vijay Pratap SHRI BASUDBB ACHARIA: We walk Singh Deo, Shri K. P. out in protest. Solanki. Shri Kalyan Singb Sukhbuns Kaur. Shrimati 16.25 brl. Sunder Singh, Ch. Swami Prasad Singh. Shri Shrt Bosudeb AchtJrla and 3aIM otMr Tanti, Shri Bhadreswar Hon. M~mbe'$ .hen 1./1 the HOIl ... Tewary. Prof. K K. Thakkar, Shrimati Usba Tripatbi. Dr Chandra Shekbar 16.27 brI. Verma, Shrirtlati Usha Vyas, Shri Girdhari La) DEMANDS FOR GRANTS, 1988·19 Wasnik, Shri Muku) MINISTERY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT. Yadava. Shri D. P. Zainul Basher, Shri (Engll,h] NOES MR. CHAIRMAN: The House "ill Abdul Hamid. Sbri now take up discussion and votiaa 011 Demand No!. 46 to 49 relatiDl to the Acbaria, Sbri Basudeb Ministryof Human Resource Development 8&natwalla, Sbri G. M. for which six hours have been anotted. Cbowdhary, Shri Saifuddin Hon. Members present in tho House Hannan Mollab, Shri wbouse cut motions to tbe Demands for Hansda. Shri MatHai Grants have been circulated may, if they Iyer. Shri V. S. Krishna desire to move their cut motions, send alips to the Table within IS minutes indicadlta Malik. Shri Purna Chandra tbe serial numbers of the cut motioDS tbeJ Masudal Hossain, Shri Syed wouJd like to movo. Those cut motiom 00» Misra, Sbri Satyagopal wjJJ be treated as moved. Ramasbray Prasad Singh, Sbri *Tbe following Members also recorded lUyan. Shri Baju Ban their notes : Roy. Dr Sudhir AYES : Sbri Laliteshwar Prasad Sbahi, Shri Roypradban. Shri Arnar Rams"aroop Ram; Sbri Haribar Saba. Sbri Ajit Kumar Soren, Shri Ihm Singh Yadav and Sbri Simon Tigga. Saha, Sbri Gadadbar NOES: Sbri Mabfooz Ali KhaD. Sait. Sbri Ebrahim Sulaiman Mobd. D.G. 88.89-Maft of MARCH 29, 1988 D.G. 88-89-Man of 372 H.RD. H.R.D. A list showiog the serial numbers of cut fourth column of the Order Paper be motions treated as moved will be put up granted to tbe President, out of the on tbe Notice Board shortly. In case any Consolidated Fund of India to com- Member finds any discrepancy in tbe list. plete tbe sums necessary to defray he may kindly bring it to tbe notice of tbe the cbarges that will come in course Offi.Je1 at tbe Table without delay. of payment during tbe year ending the 31st day of Marcb, 1989, in Motion moved: . respect of the heads of Demands entered in the second column thereof '"That the respective sums not exceed- against Demands Nos. 46 to 49 ing the amounts on Revenue Account relating to tbe Ministry of Human and Capital Accouu t shown in tbe Resource Developmcnt". Demands /01 Grallt., 1988.89, in 'e~JH!ct of tht Mlnin,y 0/ Human Resource Dne/opmelll, submitted 10 the vole 0/ Lok SQbho No. of Name of Demand Amount of Demand for Grant on Amount of De- Demand Account voted by tbe House on mand for Grant 18th March. 1988 submitted to tbe vote of tbe House 1 2 3 4 Revenue Capital Revenue Capital Rs. Rs. Rs. Rs. Miai• ...,. or HamaD Resource De.elopmeat 46. Department of Education 261,85,00,000 12,00,000 1319.l7.00.000 62,00,000 47. Department of Youth Affain and Sports 15,14.00,(,00 47,00,000 7tl. 7~.OO,0~0 2,11,00,000 48. Art aDd Culture 25,57.00,000 3,42,00,000 81.82,00,000 17,r8.00,000 49. Department of Women aod Cbild Development 44,06,00.000 205,40,00.000 DR. T. KALPANA DEVI (Warangal) : utilize tbis manpower for nation bUlldmg Mr. Chairman. Sir. I thank you (or ,ivlng and for making the country self-reliant me t"is opportunity to participate in tbe debate on tbe Demand. for Grants of the Ministry of Human Resource Development. The objective of this Ministry is to bring about coordinated and integration of various programmes like education, nutrition, cbild devolopmeDt and women welfare, which are The basic idea behind tile creation of vcry important (or the progress and develop- tile Ministry it laudable, I am happy that ment of the nation. the GOYetDment bas realised that the buman factor ud buman context il of supreme moe. We have sufficient technical man- If we Joo~ into the activities or this power. but we bavc DOt beoD able to fully Mini.tr, relatin, t9 tile WOllJCQ ",0lf8re, I D.G. 88-~9-Man 01 CHAliRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) D.G. 88-89-Man 0/ ~?4 H.R.D. H.R.D. feel tbat tbe Ministry bas not given much between the rural and urban women litoraay attention to this aspect. Women arc considered by creating more primary scbools in tbe to be universal teachers. Educating a woman rural areas. This will belp in decreasiDl tho means educating a family. Educatjon is a illiteracy rate. . major tool for improving the status of women in the country. thus leading to their Our Constitution also guarantee equal overall welfare. The uplift of tbe women right of education and property to meo and must come first and only then, there can women. I do not understand why the Union be any real good for the country. Government is hasitating to bring amend- ments to Hindu Succession Act, 1956 td In the 7th Plan document. the Govern- give equal rights on property along with ment have stressed the importance of human tbe men? The Telugu Desham party in resource development. but if we look at the Andhra Pradesh had taken the decision' to budget allocations. it is only Rs. 2 ~5 crores. confer equal rights on Hindu women alon; a meagre amount for tbis. If tbe develop- with the male members so as to achieve ment is hasically about the people and more the constitutiolJal mandate of equality by tban sixty per cent are women and children. suitably amcnding the Hindu Succession Act, bow do tbe Government propose to achieve 19!i 6 in its application to the State of tbe development witb just Rs. 235 crores ? Andbra Pradesh. I feel it is the time to' review the provi~ions of Hindu Succession Though in the last forty years, there Act, I 956 by tbe Parliament for the benefit has been a marked improvement in the of en tire Indian women. I request the Hon. field of women's education. yet the problem Mintster to take up the issue. If women of women illiteracy is still very grave. The are educated and if they have socio- n\lmber of illiterate women in India in 1971 economic status, most of their problems like was 21 5.3 million and the figure has gone dowry deaths will be solved. up to 241.6 million in 198 t. It shows tbe number of illiterate women is proportionately I f we look into women employment' increasing wltb tbe growth of the population. position, according to '981 figures, in t~c Again, there is variation 10 literacy rate organised sector women workers constitute among rural women, whicb is below 10 per only 13.3 per cent. The latest employment cent and further low in the case of scheduled exchange figures reveal that 5 1 lakh matri- caste and scbeduled tribe women. I thlDk culate girls arc unemployed and only 994 the main reasons for women illiteracy are as women are holding Administrative posts as follows. against 15,993 men in similar post~: There are only 21 women officers in Indian Police Firstly. the non-availability of schools Services as against 2,439 men. i.e. 9 per cent. in the localities they live or In the vilIsges In Indian Administrative Services there are they livc. 339 women as against 4209 men, i.e. about 7.S per cent. Secondly, the dropping out from tbe schools to assist their parents to earo their Taking into consideration all these livelihood . factors in employment. there must be reservation in the employment for women as tbe Government of Andhra' Pradesh has Thirdly, tbe socio-economic conditions given 30 per cent reservation in employment. of the family. The Plan should pay special attention Fourthly the lack of adequate aware- to rural women who are doubly discriminat- ness and m~tivation on the part of their ed. Unless women are educated and parcnts. economically independent, our country would not progress. Keeping in view tbi. background, special effort. sbould be made by tbe Government Keeping all these factors in view, dle . by allocatinl more funds to fill up the lap Government should plan in SUQb a way to" 315 D.G.88-89-Mano/ MA.R.Ct! 29, 1.988 D.G. 88-89-Man 0/ 376 H.R.D. H.R.D. prcmde women tbe educational facUities in constitutinl 272 millions. Out of tbese, one arbaa and rural areas. Vocational education third of tbe children are socially backward Iboald be emphasised. Economic status and below tbe poverty linc. I do not think. IhouId be improved by amending the Hindus these projects can cater to tbc needs of the Successioo Act, ) 956; by increaSing employ- cbildren. To acbieve bctter results, the meat opportunities by reservation of jobs; number of tbese projects sbould be incrcased b7 proper trainioa and supportive services arcatly. for ilDprovioa womens' productive capacity aacl b)' eocouraaing the voluntary organisa- Looking at education, real education ia tioDI wortiDa for women upliftmcnt. tbat whicb enables a man or a woman to stand on bis or ber legs. The education tbat I think, I will not justify if I do not we are receiving today in schools and uk the reservation for womcn in thc politics colleges is only making a race of dyspeptics. aIIo because we coDStitute 5 1 per cent of I regret to note that only 3 per cent of the the total population. national income bas been allocated for education to which top priority should have Tbere must be effective implementation been given, next only to Defcnce. Then of aU the women welfare programmes and alone, the objectives of tbe Human Resource IIlinitoriDI or the proarammes is vcry impor- Development can be acbieved and thcreby taot. But ono should not think tbat it is the prosperaty and progress of tbe nation. tile d"" of thc Government alone. Unless dIIro is the iDvoivOlDcnt of tbc people, it If we look into tbe various aspects of iI dilicult to achieve the results. cducatlon, primary education is the sector which needs more and more attention of the Government because primary education alonc As it is. we have good infrastructure on can he]p in achieving the literacy ratc to the ..per. But lack of funds and Jack of some extent in rural India. thrust to implement the programmes in tbe CODCCmcd officials and lack of the peoples' lavo)ftlDCDt arc to be examined seriously Tbe scheme of 'Operation Blackboard' fdr' the better and sua:essful Implementation was formulated to achieve the goal of of abe proarammes. universalisation of elementary education. Its aim is to bring about substantial improve- ment with regard to facilIties in the pIimary Laetl" regarding the women wel- schools where we have no basic infrastruc- fare. J request the HOD. Mir..ister to ban ture even today. One hundred crores of tile Amaio-Cantcsia teats for the sex rupees were provided for this scheme during ...... ioa. tbe year 1987-88. I would like to know as to bow much or these funds have really Rtlardioa child development and the been spent gainfully by tbe Government. JCOI pAt8l'8lDme. it is a fact that human I understand tbat due to lethargy 00 tbe part fCIOUrcc is a key factor in developmeN. The of the officials. the programme has not been Nadooal Policy of Cbildren describes the implemented' successfully. It also came to c:auatrJ., ebildrcn .. 'a supremel, important my knowledge that even tbe funds allotted ...... are not spent fuJly. Then, how would tbey spend the proposed demand for Rs. 219.' 9 crores for this project during 1988-69? The objective of leDS proaramme is to improve tbe Dutritiooal 8DCI healtb status of The s~beme is still on paper only and tbe frUIl-> of the scheme are not noticed so far cbilclma in tbe alC gr(iUP or 0 to 6 yean to redoce the iDlant mortality rate, malnutrition, and the actual improvement in tbe infraatruc- _. 1Jut the iDfrastrueluraJ network that we tural facilities in rural schools is ytt to be ..,. toda1 it inadequate to lerVe the pur- scene ,.. DatiaI tbe,., J986-". the number or ...... 0, IPODIOnId projeeta was 1 480 Comins to introduction of computers in ... dariDa die )'ear 1981-88, oDI, 40 pro- Kbool., on tbe one band tbe Government ~ .. adf.aI, wIIich il almost a nealiaible admits tbat tbere are not eveo black boards __ to ... CO Ibf ..of the cbBdren, ID scbools io rural India, and 00 tbe other. 3'11 D.G. 88-89-Man of CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) D.G. 88-89-Man 0/ 318 H.R.D. H.R.D. the Government is encouraging the urban Regarding v0C8tionalisation, I would say students to use computers. This shows a that we must give morc importaoc:e to tbe dichotomy in the thinkinl of the Govern- vocationalisation of education. It will help ment. I feel that tbus the Government us ia solving. to some extent. tbe unemploy- wants to widen the gap between tbe urban ment problem in our country. elite and the impoverished students of rural India. This is notbing but gross injustice. Last year, while replying to the Demands for Grants the Hon. Minister stated tbat in I appreciate the Government', stand to reality an amount of Rs. 351.71 crorcs was start Navodaya VidyaJayas to provide good sanctioned. It was not made available to quality modern education to the talented us. Out of tbe amount sanctioned, as much children from rural areas. I hope tbe as Rs. 36 crores went as a cut, This is tbe Navodaya Schools would help to fill the gap way tbe Government is encouraging education between the rural students and the elite by cutting tbe allotted funds. I request tbe urban students. But the number of Navodaya Government that ;they sho Id not do so in Vidyalayas opened upto the year: 986- 8 7 the near future. They should not make it was only 83 and the number of these as a habit. schools sanctioned during 1987-P8 is 126. If we are to progress at this slow pace, we Regarding sports, I want to mention cannot bridge the gap between the rural and some points. So far as sports is concerned. urban students in the short period of t 2 the Government is only trying to develop ycars before we enter the 21st Century. sports in urban ar:as. No efforts are being made to identify tbe sports talents in rural So, I request the Government to take up areas and also for encouraaing the rural education as a priority sector and allocate sports talents. So efforts are not being made more funds and monitor tbe progress so tbit to identify sports talcnts in rural schools. tbe fuods allotted are spent in tIme to acbieve the de~jred goal. Efforts should be made for proving fund for developing the-play grounds and acquir- Rqarding higher education, I would like ing minimum equipment or sports aid in all to mention one thing. In a C0untry with the scbools in rural areas. 50 per cent of population below poverty line and a buge unemployment problem, expan- Efforts should be made to organise sports sion of higher education in pure sciences, activities at villaae level. ta)uq and district arts faculties is a national waste. Already levels. A proper balance should be made we have about 130 universities in the in tbe allocation of funds for rural sports. A country. Out of that only 24 universities lage number of people are living in sural areas are agriculture universities. Tbese Unhersi- In spite of that, 70 per cent to 80 per cent of ties produce only the graduates which the funds are spent for urban areas. This increases unemployment and Ul1deremploy- increases the gap between urban and rural mente children and the youtb. This imbalance should be corrected. 16.41 larl. MR. DEPU 1 Y SI EAKER In the chair: The Government's much publicised I think we don't need such priority to Human Resource is an empty universities r. ny more but we need more talk. It caD be seen from the Finance agriculture universities and medical Minister's Budget Speech that no reference universities. bad been made regarding human resource development although there were incr~s. in 1 am happy to note that during 1987·88 the outlays of the various other MlD1Strtes. four universities were established and out of such as Defence. Agriculture and Coopera- them ODe was a Medical University. It was tion. They have Rs. 1550 crores ooly for edu\:&tioD. For women's welfare they have OItabUshed in Andhra Pradesh. Two given only Rs. crorea. The total COIIlCI a.riculture universities and one academic 235 UDimsit, wore eatablished in Oujarat. to Rs. 178' croros. 379 D.G. 88-89-Man 0/ MARCH 29, 1910 (SAKA) D.G. 88·89-.'fIJan 0/ 380 H.R.D. H.R.D. Sir the Government should have a strong The results will come only after ten or twelve will to implement tbe things in time and years from now. But various commissions must have time bound programmes for and committees had earlier also given several implementing all the scbemes, for achieving recommendations for the development of better progress. education. They had iood intentions in their minds; but what happened? Whenever With these few words. I conclude my we discussed here the performance and speech. implementation of tbose recommendations- whether they were of the Radhakrishnao Commission or those of tbe Kothari Com- SHRI MUKUL W ASNIK (Buldhana): mission or the Committee of Members of Sir, I rise to support the Demands of the Parliament-we aU were of one opinioc, Ministry of Human Resource Development. namely tbat most of the recommendations This Ministry has been formed to develop- were gooci. except that the implementation man as a whole and not in pieces and was not proper. fragments. Therefore, this MlDistry has brought together several Departments-the Depanments of Education, Youth Affairs. This New Education Policy is also good It was welcomed by all. But what happened? We saw that the WbY in which the New Sports, Woman and Child De\lclopment, Education Policy should have been Culture and Arts. But in the limited time implemented in the very first year, it was available to me to express my opinion, I not implemented 10 tbat manner, as was feel that I do not have the time to cover expected by the people of India. and as or to say even a few words on the vanous expected by me also in thiS House. We felt, Departments of this huge MlDlstry of Human happy that there was a nse 10 the allocation Resource Development and therefore. I will from Rs. 352 erores to R!. 800 crores, a try to express only a few points regarding the rise of nearly J 24%; but what we saw this Department of Education which I feel IS one year was that the Department of Education of the most important Departments of the could utilize only R~. 700 crores, and Rs. Ministry of Human Resource Development. 100 crores were left unspent. It IS said that We have accepted that upon tbe educatIOn this was so because the Department was of the people of this country. the fate of late ID finaliZing the vanous schemes and this country depends. And, therefore, we programmes which were given in the Pro- tbougbt that this important resource, the gramme of Action. So, the money which resource towards which we had not given was allocated for the implementation of the adequate attention in the past. ne eded more Policy in the last fiscal year could not be attention. So. we announced that the nation utilized in toto; and Rs. 100 crores had to would be given a New Education Policy, and lapse. that education pohey would try to imbibe into tbe minds of the student community the moral, ethical, social and spiritual values of The other Hon. Member who had just now the Indian society. After a lengthy discus- spoken. had said that in the Hon. Finance sion in Parliament and outside, and lots of Minister's Budget speech, there was no men- debate in various sections of the society. tion of the human resource developmcnt. But I wbich included studen ts, teachers and feel tbat either the Hon. Mcmber did not go pareots, we gave to the natlOr: the through the speech of Mr. Tiwari or else National Education Policy, and we raised she might have just overlooked the section hopes-because tbis Policy was full of where the Han. Finance Mmister has made innovative ideas, programmes and schemes. a mention of buman resource development. We raised tbe expectations of the people of We have seen tbat a similar mention was India that this Policy would start immedia- made in tbe Address delivered by the Hon. tely. and it would give results immedia tely. President at the joint session of both tbe and thow to the country tbat it has started Houses, just before our Session started tbis yielding results. What happened? We saw time. that the Policy in rea1ity, as it is, is not a policy which wiU bring immediate results But even thouih there have been certain ADd tbat it caoBOt brin. immediate result.: ~b.mc. wbich bave been launcbcd- 381 D.G, 88-89-Man of CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) D.G. 88-89-Man 0/ H.R.D. H.R,D. Novodaya School, tbe Operation Black Board behind the teach~rs; it was not the number or vocationalisation aDd literacy mission- of teachers who bad gone on strike. The I fee) that the amount of thrust which should public sympathy is not an inexbaustible have been behind all these programmes was commodity; it can exhaust any time and it missing; there is a need to have a bigger bas already started exhausting. Therefore, J thrust behind a1) these programmes or after will appeal to the teachers community that a few years we will again say that the they should not resort to such means, tbe ~oJiCY was good. but it was not properly means which wiH keep educational institutions lm~lemented. It is not the government only closed; and at tbe same time I wBi appeal ~hlch should be blamed for the improper to the Hon. Minister that a provision should )[nplementation of policy. I will say that be made to ensure that the teaching com- tbere has been a consistent effort from some mUDlty do not g\J on strike. people to sabotage tbe implementation of the policy. We launched a policy last year and we saw that simultaneously there was a It has always been said by member in launching of the teachers strike at tbe the house as well as in the meeting~ of the national level; there used to be a strike from Consultative Committee of Human Resource Development that education is for the tbe teaching community t but it was restricted will to one university. two universities or 10 students. and this education which universities. But this time when we decide the fate of the country will at the same time decide the fate of the generation launched a national policy on education wbich is going under edueation in the present Simultaneously there ..vas a launching of the system Therefore, it was always urged tbat teachers' strike at the national level. I feel the students community should be given an that the teachin" community is a community opportunity to voice their oplDlons in which is an exam Dle to the students. The various forums of decisions making in the students are to l~arn from them and if the universities, colleges and other educational teachers are to teach to the students com· inc;titutions. 1 had felt that when All India munity. that this is the way to fight for the Council of Tl!cbnical Education Bill was demand, this is the way to keep the institu· passed in the House, the representation of tions closed. tbis is the way to harass the the studen' s community will definitely be government. this is the way to waste the there on the Council of Technical Education. finance') given for funning the institutions: But it was very unfortunate to notice that if tbis is the example which the teachers are tbere ",as no representation of the student to set for the !tlldeots community of Jndia. community in tbis Council. I appeal and I fear that no policy will succeed and if the again request the Hon. Minister of Human policy has to succeed, it can only succeed Resource De\ eioprnent tbat this matter with the coordinated efforts of tbe students, should be gone into again. It should be the teachers, the government and the studied in detail again and the student university authontie~. If tbe teachers are community should be given effective represen- to teach the students the way how to go on tation in not only this Council but in various strike, there is a fear that no polIcy. whether bodies whIch are the decision making bodies this policy or any other policy, can succeed in the univ;:rslties and colleges. and therefore I feel that, if on the appeal from the government side ()r the university authorities-the teachers do not call their It has been pointed out that the students, strike back, then the government should who will be most affected by the educational make a provision to make education an system, are not experienced, they are not old essential ~ervice and bring It under ESMA. enough to give opini0Ds in various forums, Otherwise. you would go on wastmg tbe and therrfore even if they are full of resources given for educathm. Wbe(l the strength. they should not be given represen- teacbers were on strike, there was a thinking tation in these bodies. And, what we see. among the leadefS of the teaching communi:v as a result? We see. as a result. that that they were powelful, Hnc that they had there 3re student protests everywhere. They all the strength bebind trem. But the protest on the streets because they bave been strength behind the teachers was not the denied their rightful place of representation strength of the number of teachers involved in these bodies. If you involve them in these in tbe strike but it was the public sympathy bodies, if you give them a chance to D.G. 88-89-Man 01 MARCH 29, 1988 D.G. 88-89-Man 01 384 H.R.D. H.R.D. represent their views in these bodies then SHRI NARAIN CHOUBEY (Midna. do you not think that they will not go 'on the pore): He is frustrated. Mr. Mukul. you road~ to shout for their demands? If tbey are frustrated today. (Interruptions) liven these opportunities, I feel that they u:e 17.00 hrs will. not I~ on tbe raods to shout slogans (or Betting tbelr demands sanctioned. SHR} MUKUL WASNIK: I am not frustrated. I am just giving my opinion. The students protest not only at tbe (Interruptions). Saying the facts is not provocation of an mcident or two or three frustration. I am saying these facts on]y incidents, but as many scholars who have with a bope and confidence tbat these facts lone into thrs, bave pointed out tbat tbe will be looked into and proper action will be students protest because of lIeveral reasons taken If frustration is tbere. tben tbis is not which include unwieldy type of universities the remedy. J would Dot have said whatever the social and distance p~ycbological betwee~ I have said if I was a frustrated man. the teachers and the taugbt. the deteriorating (Interruptiom). I would like to draw the standards, the outmoded system of educa- attention of the Hon. Minister tbat the tion. thanks to the Government that they norms for setting up the central schools in have bro~ht in a New Education Policy, our country are very rigid and because of the tbe growing upempJoyment-which bas not rigid norms. the central schools are not yet .tarted decliDln8. it has to dechne- tbe coming up in tbe rural areas and in the erosion of the hierarchical structure of backward Districts of our country. The society and the inter-generational gap. Government employees tend to run away request th It these things should also be I from tbe backward areas because their cbild· gone into. A major mission bas been laun- ren do not get opportunity for uniform ched, the literacy mission. I will request the education in the rural areas. Therefore Hon. Minister tbat it is a Herculean ta!>k. efforts should be made to relax the condi~ the goal which has been set is not an easy tions for setting up central scbools in tbe goal to achieve because there are at least rural areas and backward Districts of the 243 districts in the country having literacy country. Many programmes and many rate below the national level and there are scbemes have been relaxed for backward about 193 districts with fem!1le literacy areas. Industrially backward areas have ~low 20 per cent. Tnese are the figures been given several concessions. Slmilar)y for given by tbe annual report 1984-85 educationally backward areas some conces- the Ministry of Education itself. of sions should be given. It should come up Also, it has been found tbat literacy by way of relaxing tbe conditions for setting amonl women too is very low and though up central schools in tbe rural areas. efforts have been started to promote edeca- tion among glds. stjIJ-rnore efforts should Sir, a problem wbicb bas surfaced in the be made. It should be seen tbat proper newspapers these days is about fake degrees bostel accommodation, if necessary at every and diplomas given by bogus institutIOns. taluka should be made to see tbat girls ge in Recently. in Nagpur, an institution bad for education not only till the primary level given Diplomas of Sanitary Inspector to but to the secondary and higher secondary about one hundred and twenty students by aDd college levels of education. taking two tbousand rupees from each stu- dent. This Diploma is not recognised in the State of Maharashtra. A complaint had been Tbe availability of primary scbools in made by the local Member of Parliament rural areas for 1000 girls between the age Shri Banwari Lal Purohit to the Commis- group of six to eleven years was only. sioner of Police. and no action has been 37 schools. taken till now. This is one incident. Tbere are s~veral bogus institutions which are giving fake Dc-grees and Diplomas, and No ODe caD say that tbis is satisfactory. urgent steps should be taken to close down It bas to be made satisfactory because if tbe these institutions, because they just inVIte the girk' education sutlers, tben rbe whole' students whoever are in search of good education system will suffer. education and tbey are befooled by these 385 D.G. 88-89-Mln. 01 CHAITRA 9. 1910 (SAKA) D.G. 88-89-Min. of H.R.D. H.R.D. bogus institutions. Tberofore, immediate '·That the demand under tbe bead action sbould be taken against them. Department of Education be reduced by Rs. 100," I would like to point out that thouah we bave started tbe implementation of the (Need to review tbe functionina of tie policy. it needs further vigour and thrust. I University Grants Commission.) (4\ am hopeful that under the experienced Minister. Shri Narasimha Rao. proper • 'That the demand under the bead action will be taken and it will be seen that Department of Education be reduced by wbatever we bad left behind in tbe last year Rs. J 00." will not be left bebind again, and we will march ahead with the proper implementation (Need for concrete strategies for tb. of the policy in the coming year. improvement of education in Colleges.) (5) At the end, I would like to say tbat only SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN the educated are free and the uneducated (Kisbanganj) I beg to move : will always be slave. Therefore. aU efforts should be made at the earliest to give educa- "That tbe demand under tbe he,d tional opportunities to aU. and then only Department of Education be reduced to we will mak e a 11 the people of India free Re. I." citizens of this free country. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA (Pannani) : (Failure to grant tbe status of a statvtory I beg to move : university to lamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi.) (6) "That the demand under the head Department of Education be reduced "That the demand under the bead to Re. I." Department of Education be reduced to Re. 1." [Failure to grant the status of a fulI- fledged UniverSity to Jamia Millia (Failure to implement tbe Three Laoao- Islamla.} (1) age Formula in tbe Central syllabul fer secondary scbools.) (7) SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD SINGH (Jahanabad) : I beg to move: "That tbe demand under the bead "That the demand under the head Department of Education be reduced to Department of Education be reduced Re. I." by Rs. tOO." (Failure to manage tbe Bureau for the [Need to open a Navodya School at promotion of Urdu efficiency and produc- Bakhtiyarpur vitJage of Patna district tively.) (8) in Bihar which consists majority of Harijans and backward classes.} (2) "Tbat tbe demand under tbe head Department of Education be reduced to SHRI A. E. T. BARROW: (Nominated Re. 1" Anglo IndIans) I beg to move: (Failure to protect the rights of linguistic "That the demand under the head minorities in education all over the country.) Department of Education be reduced by Rs. 100.\ {9} (Need to rearrange priorities of the "Tbat the demand undClr tbe bead National Education Policy because of in- Department of Education be reduced to adequate funds. (3) Re. I." 387 D.G. 88-89-Min. 01 MARCH 29, 1988 D.O. 88-89-Min. 01 388 H.R.D. HR.D. failure to implement the Operation country depends on tbe progress made in Black-board to a meaningful extent.) (10) education. Unlike my friend, wbo just preceded me, I am still having faitb in the . 'That the demand' under the head Ministry because it is headed by a competent Department of Education be reduced to Minister ably assisted by a lady Minister. Re.l." If Mr. Narasimba Rao and Mr. Alva are failed. I tbink. this Government will com- (FaDure to purge school text books in pletely fail in its efforts. Since tbey are languages. literature. history and SOCIal still in tbe initial stage, of implementation studies from objectionable content whIch we still have faith. impair the process of nationnl integration) (II) After tbe advent of Independence. we had appointed several commissions. Imme- diately after independence, we had Dr. ·'That the demand under tbe head Radhakrisbnan's Commission. Later 00 in Department of Education be reduced to 50s we had Lakshmanaswamy Mudaliar Re. I." Commission In 1965-f6 we had Kotbari Commission. But unfortunately, the re- \Failure to acbieve any significant pro- commendations of tbese Commissions were gress in education in respect of religious not implemented because the Central mioorities even in tbe areas of their con- Government had not taken up the question centration.) (t 2) of educathm seriously as it was not in the Central List. It is when it came to the ·~That the demand under the head Concurrent List that some attention IS being Department of Education be reduced to paid. Re. I:' Th~ entire House has accepted the new (Failure to implement the report of the education policy \\ith one voice and wel- Oujaral Committee on Urdu) (I 3) c9med It. ThIS was approved by Parliament on 8th of May, t 986 and agam the Pro- "That the demand under the head gramme of ActIOn was approved bv Parha- Department of Education be reduced to ment on 22 August, 1986. It ts but natural Re. 1." that the whole country lS anxIous to know what progress thIS MlDlstry has made ID (Failure to ensure the proper functIoning re"pect of the new education policy, of Aligarh Muslim University and to prevent tbe .rosion of the authority of tbe statutory I would like to take up only a few bodies of the Univer~it)'.) (14) POlOtS. Just now, one of the Hon ~embers while speakmg, saId that out of Rs. 8('0 ·'That tbe demand under the head crores that were allotted during 1987-88, Department of Education be reduced to nearly Rs. 100 crores were not spent. Re. I." THE MINISTER OF HUMAN RE- (Failure to restore the right of .vorship SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI P. V. in the protected mosques. subject to apDfO- NARASIMHA RAO) : 1 would like to save priate conditions, al agreed to in March, a lot or effort on the part of the Mem- 1984.) (1~) • bers wbo will be speaking subsequentJy, by pointing out that since the Finance Minister SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER (Banga- made hiS speech in Parliament. much water lore South) : I am very happy to has flowed down the bridge and the figures participate in tbe discussion on tbe Demands jud quoted by our fnend Mr. Mukul for GraDts of tbe Ministry of Human Wasnlk ard by you, are no Jonger valid. Resource Development. J do realise that it In my reply J would hke to say bow much is poe of tbe moat important MiDislrie~ of more has been spent during the Jast one the Government wbere the progress of the montb and there is re41JJ)' nothillS (I10fC to ~89 D.G. 88-89-Min. 0/ CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) D.G. 88-89-Min. 0/ H.R.D. H.R.D. spend. This is the position. So, please Rs. to crores more than tbe amount allo- take it as a new piece of statistics that our cated. I will be very happy if that bas been expenditure is almost 99 per cent of what done .. . 1nttl'ruptiOtll). has been alJoued. On this basis if further criticism is to be levelled or comments to be made, they are welcome. I am just correct- SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO: Yea. it is. ing these figures because many. things have been in the pipeline. And since most of these things have been disposed of. all the SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : It is an programmes are now in the field and money right. Sir. I have seen the newspaper ,.,.. has been spent and usefuJly spent. ports and also I have seen the proceediop of their central body. According to tbat, many of the States have not taken up thit SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER: I am scheme enthusiastical1y. This shou1d be glad that you have given this clarification. taken up as a movement. If the New Educa- I will easily skip one or two puagraphs. tion Policy were to be implemented faith- fully and in good spirit, al1 the States must In the education policy, there are a take up this scheme with enthusiasm. Not number of schemes. I had a glance only all the States should provide funds bot over the implementation portion of the also there should be entbusiasm to imple- education policy which was given to us only ment it because it is a new scheme in which yesterday. I would like to know whether aU people of our country have fuU faith. So. the schemes which a~e enuml!rated in the I would like to know from the Hon. Minister education policy are being implemented in bis reply whether tbe States have given because I read in the newspapers that due to their share. Of. course. in the implementa- severe drought conditions the Secretariat of tion Report which he has given to us, he the Prime Minister as well as the MlIlistry bas said Rs. 250 crores States' share ~ of Finance asked you to cut down the been given. So. according to the New e~p:nditure on edLlcation by Rs. 300 crores. Education PoJicy. for Operation Blackboard you have to cover 20 per cent of the Blocks SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO: I am during this year, another 30 per cent in the only submitting that in respect of whatever next year t and the remaining in the last ycar bas been allotted in the current year i.e of the Seventh Plan. for which you had 1987-88. In 1987-88 when tbe Finance provided Rs. 100 crores in 198 7 - 8 8 ycar Minister allotted Rs. 800 crores, it was said and Rs. 130 crores you have provided now. that only R.,. iOO crores were spent and But 1 would only like to know from Ule Rs. 100 crores were left unspent. I just Hon. Minister - of course, we are on tIJe wanted to correct that figure giving the latest 29th today; there are still two more days f9r position, and tbat latest position happens to him-whether tbey have released the mon~y be tbat this Rs. 100 crores leeway is no for aU the States. The pre-condition for longer there. For the next year, of course. them to release any money is that the in- wbatever comments the Han. M~mbers want frastructure shall be provided by the Staf,C, to mak.e. they are welcome. I will certainly that is, if tbere is one room. another room respond to those commenlS later. should be provided; if there is no school room at all, tben one school room is to be SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER: Very provided. You are providing the equipmept well, Sir. I may now come to some of the and one extra teacher, preferably a lady main points. The main thrust of the New teacher. So. at least let us know because I Bducation PQlicy was on elementary educa- could not find out the progress bit."",'! tion, on primary education. In the Plan of lions). Action, oDe of tbe most important scbemes which they have undertaken is the 'Opera- tion Blackboard'. A sum of Rs. 100 crores SHRI P. V. NARASIMHA RAO:. 1 was provided for that. Now, accordiDl to will give you Block-wise details-the number them. and allo according to the implementa- of Blocks and the names of the BIOQks ta~D tion report which we bave just re<:eived, tbey up for this programme in each State. In r•• have SpeDt tbat amount, over-speDt, ev~~ I waDted tbo Mombcrs to bavc ,his Jist, You 391 D.G. 88·89-Min. 0/ MARCH 29, 1988 ./).G. 88-89-Min. 0/ 392 H.R.D. H.R.D. will have tbis list and you may kindly check in many of the schools. That is tbe position. up at tbe field level and Jet me know. So. what you stated on the floor of tbe House tben and now. bow are you goinl SHill V. S. KRISHNA IYBa: Sir, I to implement it? When I asked some of went throuab your performancc Budget only tbe people in my State, tbey said, Whatever Jut. Di8bt. The success of tbe New Education tbe Government pays is just sufficient for Policy depends uoon its implementation. our salary. How could we give mid-day Tbil is the elementary thing, this is the meal or nutritious food to the children l' ... thia it the foundation of the New Leave alone nutritious food, they are not fl4uca~D Policy. So. 1 would like to know even getting their wards medically examined Wbctbor dais bas been implemented faith- at least once in a year. That is also not fu,Uy. In the press reports, in tbe Ministers' being done. So, thiS is very important aspect CoDf~ report and in tbe speech of the of NEP and I request you to go into it. Bon. Minister. everywhere what is said is tIaat they have told the States that they So far as non-formal education is con- UO DOt implementing it. Some of the States cerned, you are glVlDg J 00 per cent "7: ··We do not have funds. You give _ fund., tben only we "ill implement it." assistance for voluntary orgaDisations Even tbere could not find out in the rbooks AU that has happened. That is why it is I .., dlhl to know the euct facts with regard supplied to us how many centres are tbere who arc implementing this programme. &8 &be Operation Blackboard Scbeme. Are you satisfied witb tbe success of t'Be non-formal education in the 8\,1100Is? It is Just • nOW the lady Member who spoke, because we find not much pr6grds in the ..Id--of course, I do not want to elaborate field of non-formal educatIOn, which bas OS that-about the women education. What become necessary because we have a number lias been done on tbal? Are tbey still on of drop·outs in the schools. According tM pilot projects or are tbey extending the to a recent survey, I find that out of Icbeme to various instltuuons 7 How much 10 children that go to tbe elementary mone, has been provided separately for tbe schools or that are enrolled In the elementary women·. ed~tion because the thrust of scbools, only two go up to the Eighth tile New Bducation Pohcy is also on tbe Standard. Even now the drop-outs are so deteIopmeot of women's education? many. Anotber important point whlcb we should bear in mlDd Is-the Hon. Minister Sir, .. you are aware, tbe literacy among knows It-that now in the field of cbild WOIDCD. according to tbe 1981 census. is labour in our country-that is also in tbe 17 per cent whereas it is 47 per cent among survey which I mentioned-one crore tile males. Sir. as a part of this elementary cbildren are employed in various factories .....don or primary education, when you and other fields, and nearly two crores of wore rcplyina to the debates in tbe last children are engaged to tbe family work, two yean, J was keenly observing that you as members of tbeir famIly assisting their lAid that tbe maio object will be tbe all parents. So, nearly three crores are tbere, rouod development of tbe cbild. You were tbat is two- thirds of the children are enaaged tben boldinl the Health portfolio alao. l~ke tbat. Of tbem, how many are you able You were saying tbat not onl, tbe tcacbing to attract to join the maInstream, I mean, 3-&8. in tbe claa room, but also Govern- take up the primary education? Those meat "ill take care to see tbat the health figures are very Important because 1 know of tbe dlild is also maintained and the cbild very well, you have already staled in one it aIIo liven nutdtiOUl food. May I know statement somewhere that the year 1987-88 whether it il only on paper or "bether it is bas been spent on endless preparation for beIItt implemented in all tbe States '1 If various thIDBs. I know you bave appointed Ie is beioa implemented, who is loing to a number of committees, one press report tlDaDce tbat ICbeme 'I So far as my know- says that you bave lot 100 Committees .._ .,a, moat of the States cannot to look after ODe facet or the other of the implement 'hat, they are nor able to do Dew education policy, So, all these Baures tbM. You find today tbat even tbe ordinary are vcT)' neccssary for UI because we want IIIC4ical aamioatioo i. DOt bein, eond~ to appreciate, because we want to know 393 D.G. 88-89-Min. 01 CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) D.G. 88-89-Min. of 394 H.R.D. H.R.D. how NEP is progressing. I am sure the get snction to tbis scbeme. Even yesterday. Hon. Minister will supply to us all these one officer had come here. I will request things. the Hon. Minister to see that at least tomorrow that amount is released. I am Then, 1 come to vocational education. sure you will do it because you have That is a very important thing. The thrust provided Rs. 36 crores in the current year of the new education policy is again as expenditure. vocatlonalisation of secondary education. In that scheme, I should admit that you have About tbe adult education, not much failed. You have not reached the target is said here. We have heard about so many tbere and I should say, if at all anything is schemes and the technical mission. Even done so far as vocational education is tbere, I am not bappy about it. Our State concerned, you might have done only is a pioneer in the area of adult education. something during this month, the month Adult education started in Karnataka when of March. Even the amount of Rs. 60 a European professor Eagleton started in crores that was allocated for that, you have Karnataka SO years back. Even now we been able to spend only Rs. 32 crores. I have got so many schemes like Aksha,a Sen" do not know whether you would be able etc. But somehow it bas not been working to reach 10 per cent of tbe schools well. You bave also so many schemes. by tbe end of the plan period. At this You bave given the figures saying about rate it won't do, unless you do sometbing. 90 lakbs bave become literate from this So, I do belkve in vocationallsation. But scbeme. Wbo is monitoring the whole one thing. I 10 not know whether the Hon. thing 1 Are you satisfied witb it because MlOister has observed. This bas not yet statistics can be easily produced. become popular because parents are still We do not see tbe movement at attracted to degrees. You have saiJ in all. We should see that adult education your education policy that degrees will be is taken in right earnest and people have delinked with jobs. You have a scheme for become earnest about it. It is very necessary that. You have some training scheme. because we have to eradicate illiteracy in But that has not been implemented. That our country because ours is the secopd has not stili come about. So, from my largest illerate country in tbe world. I do point of View, the vocational education not know whether it is still second or Will bec.)me attractive only If you assure otherwise. I would request the HOD. jobs for those persons who are trained Minister to see that tbe schemes which arc vocationally. So, you should have a formulated for this purpose are implemented dialogue with the industry, inter-action effectively. ] know, you alone canDot do it. between industry and education authorities. The States most also do it. I request YOU You should find out what type of people to monitor it. You are holdins so many they want--civil engineering, mechanical. meetings with the Stale Ministers. I request people etc. That type of inter-a:;tion must you that you should have a separate meeting be tbere and the parents and the students with the Ministers with regard to adult must come to know that this vocational education and see that tbe scbemc is education will be useful. In this connection, implemented effectively. I will give one instance. Till yesterday Karoataka had not received even a pie About tbe examination reform, it was for this vocational education. expected that the UGC should submit a come from Bangalore ooly y;;sterday. They scheme. But I find from the report tbat have sent a scheme for Rs. 7 crores. Even till today tbey bave not come out with a before the new education policy came into scheme. It docs not cost anything. I do forco Karnataka had started it. I think, not know why this scheme has DOt yet tho Hon. MlDister knows it very well. We been implemented. I request you to find arc now imparting vocational education out tbis. in 200 institutions and our Government has submitted a scheme for 7 crores, for the Seventb Plan period. I do not know About the three-language formula, whether you will release it tomorrow because yesterday also ] spoke about this. 1 bave lome of tbe officers bad come here to seen this 3-1anluaae formula scbeme. You 395 D.G. 88-89-Min. 0/ MARCH 29, 1988 D.G. 88-89-Min. 0/ 396 N.RD. N.R.D. have provided funds for the development [Trans la lion) of Hindi, Englisb and Sanskrit. But funds provided for tbe development of regional SHRI RA M SINGH Y ADA V (AI"ar): languages. I sbould say. arc very meagre Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I support tbe and disappointing. 1 draw the attention of Demands for Grants of tbe Ministry of the Hon. Minister to the importance of Human Resource Development. Sir, our development of regional languages What you Human Resource Development Minister t have provided is very meagre and you have Sbri Narasimha Rao is in him~elf an institu- not made any attempts to improve them. tion and a great scholar. He is a source You have made attempts to develop Hindi. of inspiration to tbe Hudents and educa· We wet.:ome it; it is a hnk language. But tionists not of any particular region but the what attempts have you made? What entire country. We can very' well see the provision have you made to teach any of results of his inspiration throughout the the South Indian languages jn the Northern country. I thank the Hon. Minister for bis States? Notbing. I can understand and taking various steps for making the education speak Hindi but can the other Members a strong medium for promotion and propaga- understand if I speak in Kannada language? tion of education. We also welcome the national policy of education formulated SHRI P. V. NARASIMH -\ RAO: We by him. He has also given concrete sbape arc talking about primary education, not to it. about adult education. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER: Sir, first Qf all, I thank him for his repeat the same argument which I mdde achievt:ments in the propagation and expan- last time with regard to the Navodaya sion of education. schools. In the Navodaya schools, you pick up stDdents from the Sixth Standard His Opera lion black-board policy has When they come to Navodaya Schoo), provided great encouragement. The Hon. they forget the regional language. You Minister bas paid special attention towards should make some provision to teacb the providing school buildi[1gs, trained teachers rCiional language also in N d vodaya and teaching materials at places where they schools. In the Navodaya Schools, the were backing. curriculum ii in Enghsh and Hindi. That is why. many of the States are oppos'ng it, This scheme benefited the field of thougb we are implementing it in Karnataka, education and more particularly the students Tbere are a number of women voluntary receiving education in the primary schools. institutions in our country. There are also It is hoped that we will be able to achieve a number of Mahila Samajams engaged the objectives of tbe education policy that in the service of women and children. You we had set in 1986 through this special are glVtng unancial assistance to these scheme by 1990. In the meantime we can institutions but it is only token assistance. pro'tide admission to children between the You must givc fuU financial assistance to age group of 6 to 14 years and impart tbem the orpnisations cnpged in the service of - free educ_ tlOn. In this way, we will be destitute women. There is one Institute for able to achieve the objectives we bad set in b.>y5 in Baoplore which is run by Shrimati this regard. P. R. Jayalaksbmamma which is doina very good work. All these Homes engaged in Sir, here I may refer to the recent the service of women and cbildren should be announcement made by tbe Hon. Minister liven funds in time. of Finance that some more money will be provided through tbe budget for tbe current I request you to see tbat sports are )lear viz 1988-89 but I would like to draw extended to tbe rural parts also. It should bis attention to the fact tbat less money bas not be mere lip sympatby. Plu'e take been allocated for Primary Education in action. comparison to Higher Education, despite I hope that whcn the Bon. Minisier tbe thrust of the Government on tbe primary replies, be will answer all these points. education. The Hon. Minister can himself ~9' D.G. 88-89-Mln. 0/ CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) D.G. 88-89-Mln. 0/ ~98 H.R.D. H.R.D. observe the figures tbat more money bas been addition to teaching material. Third object- allocated under plan expenditure. For tbe year ive was that the teachers appointed should 1988-89 for school education Rs. 413 crore be trained one and who should bave seJf- bas been allocated under plan and Rs. 13l confidence about their teaching capabilities crore under Non-Plan and for University and because a teacher can be a person who bas Higher Education Rs. 148 crore and R~. self-~nfidence and knows that he can satisfy 454 crore have been allocated under Plan the curiosity of the students and answering and Non-Plan respectively. It means that their questions likely to be raised in the less money has been allocated for payment class on the b:: J; > of his knowledge and ex- of salaries to ttte teachers teaching in primary perience. For this purpose, teacher h mself schools under Non-Plan and higher salaries should be well trained. This also h..l~ two are paid to Teach"rs of Universities and stages-first is the same that one gets train- colleges. In the National Teachers Report- ing before joining service and then a refrellb- Teachers and tbe Society and The Report of ing ccurse after joining the service and National Commission on Teachers-Volume through other media. I appreciate the target 1 -grades given in re"pe:;t of Primary and fixed by the Government for training five Higher Secondary reachers are for less than lakh teachers every year which in itself is the Grades of University Teachers. In fact, very commendable. Be'ildes, Teachers Com- primary school teacher is supposed to lay mission has submitted his report. AI, the good foundation for the developmt>nt of the Commissions appointed present different child SWlmi Vlvekananda, said the exposure view POints and create more ambiguity. They of the talpnts inherent in the man starts have st3ted tha t in some States XI passed from Primary School EducaHon and if the candidates are appointed teachers and given Government also expect" of any Teacher to one year training. In our State Xl passed build the founjation of students, then it candidates are given two year~ trairing. Tbi~ must look after him. Therefore the credit CommiSSion's recommendation i~ that X and the faCilities should be gIVen to Primary passsed candidates be given four year's Teachers because even today they are under- training which is impracticable because paid in relation to the labour done by them. there should be no training Althoup.h their contribution in teaching and Iastmg more than two years. There- dlflicultieo; faced by them during postingc; in rYe. we shollid not give importance to such rural areas are enormous. There is neither thing'> which are not practicable But ,n any provision for payment of some village addItion, it is neCe5<:ary to see that if some - allowance to them nor any medical expenses one wants to become doctor be must acquire reimbursl!ment allowance. Even after great MBBS dl!gree For becoming engineer. B.E. efforts they fail to get medical, travellini and or Polytechnic deKree is a must, but for other allowances from Panchayat Samitis. becoming teacher any body can go and join Therefore, if we really want to give priority s.:hool Right to teach in a scbool should to elementary education as we should not be granted to everybody as long as one because it i" the ba ... e which must be strong not trained upto a national level because if then we will have to review our options and right to teach is granted to an untrained remove the anomaliec;. I except the Hon. per<;o;'1 who has no knowledge of teaching Minister who has been closely ac;sociateri then it will mean that Government is not with the rural life and knows the difficulties sedan, about nation building. Due to tbis of the teachers working In Primary S.::hools faulty syc;tem, nobod} from rural Preas, not there. to do something so that maxirr..um a single child comes upto the high national needs of the teacher" of Primarv C;chools level, vi::, lAS, JPS, Indian Education could be met after cc,eeking more allocation of Service. 'ndian Engineering Service, Indian funds from the current budget. Medical Service and other services Students of only selected educational institutions Here, I would also like to mention that !\uccee-d in the competitive examinstions. As in accordance with the edu.:at on p()licy a re'\ult of thi,. a vested interest bas been 19f6. our firc;t and foremost objective \vas ~evel0ped in the country that only students to spread elementary edu.::ation everywhere of selected schools and colleges succeed into by enrolling the children of the age group important services. In order to bring an end of 6 to 14 years, Second objective was to to this practice, Government must consider provide buildings to primary schools in the question of academic level of teachets D.G. 88-89-Mi". 0/ MARCH 29, 1988 D.G. 88-89-Mi". 0/ H.R.D. H.R.D. aDd the training given to tbem. the Government has not resolved to give it a practical shape in aDY if its papers. per- Now I would like to dwell on new edu" formance Reports or Implementation cation policy. Under new education policy. Programmes. I feel tbat the Government we hope that Government will make the should think over it aDd consider it an issue education job oriented and in addition to of national importance. I agree tbat tbe this more and more technical knowledge will Centre cannot accomplish tbis task on its also be imported. But today, tbe Hon. own and co-operation of States is necessary Minister ••• (Interruptiolll). You arc disturb- for its implemt"ntation. Education Ministers ina me unnecessarily. I want to give you of States are members of the Central some useful information, please listen. It Advisory Board ••• (lnterTuptlons). I shall does not behave an Hon Member to disturb take five minutes more. others. They must understand these things. We have been elected to this august House9 timo bas been allotted, we are educated Anotber question arising in the field of people and want to place our point of view, technical education is how to vocationalise please listen to me. It is up to tbe Govern- it. As the Hon. Members who spoke before ment to take any action on our proposals or me also said, it has not been clearly spelt not.. . (lnierruptionS). I was expressing my oot bow to go about achieving this objective. views on new education policy. The thrust It is very important to clearly define tbe of new oducation policy whicb bas also been steps to be taken. My constituency of Alwar discussed in detail in tbe House and you bad bas an industrial area. But tbere is no also studied it. The main reason was that coordination between tbe high" scbools. common man wanted a change in education higher secondary schools. colleges, polytech- aDd education policy. The common man, nics or Industria] Training Institutes with tbe teacbers and parents expected tbat new edu· industry. Tbe Government sbould think cation policy should help the children about tbe manner in wbicb industry has to studying in schools and colleges to achieve co-ordinate with the educational sector J something in life and should not become Although the New Education Policy lays a liabilities on tbeir parents. With this end in lot of emphasis on this aspect, but this has view Government resolved to make education not been made clear towards whicb we job oriented. The Government wants to give should have paid maximum attention. Ex- importance to technical education instead of penditure earmarked for tecbnical education aeneral education, which has also been in the Plan is Rs. 141 crores wbile Non· adopted by some western countries. The Plan expenditure is Rs. 104 crores. Tbis is students do not become liability on their quite insufficient. parents if tbe)' have vocational education. I request that emphasis should be laid on Besides this, the curriculum or syllabus settina up Industrial Training Institutes. evolved for secondary education under tbe Polytechnics and otber sucb insti tutions for New Education Policy has no provision for promoting technical education in the country. teaching commerce subjects in classe, IX, X, In this connection, my suggestion iii that XI and XU. Commerce subjects are taught polytechnics sbould be set up at block level in tbe college and primary levels but not to and tbore should be a phased programme for clauses IX, X, XI, XII in secondary schools. it. Several difficulties especiaJJy shortage of This i!l certainly a great lapse and an retOurces caD arise in this task. But atleast improvement is asked for. One faculty is tbis should be tbe approach of Central missing for four consecutive years. The new Advisory Boud of Education and they should prospectus and syllabus whicb has been lot us know as to when tbey can set up prepared should be reconsidered. Polytechnics at block level-by 1990 or 1995. Up to what year the Government Similarly, a standard should be set for plans to set up Industrial Training Institutes teacbers. There is no need for option•. at Pancbayat level in the country because Non-matriculates sbould not be appointed tbese institutions are tbe only sourcc of pro- as teachers. Such people can be given the vidiDa tecbnical know-bow. Tbis is the onl, option of passina the class X examination aJternative in tbe technical field wbich can and an in-service traininl within two help tbe students at tbe rcaiona1 level. But 401 D.G. BB-89-Min. of CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) D.O. 88-89-Mln. 0/ 402 H.R.D. B.R.D. yean, faiUnl which their services should be of l~al panchayats aod municipalitiel. terminated. EducatIon in every State should be brouaht Another thing I want to say rela tes to under the Directorate of Education. The tho National Council of Educational Re- Centre should advise the States on these searcb and Training's (N.C.E.R.T.) ~roject Jines, only then can orimary education come in our state of Rajasthan. Under this project up to the right standards and education can opportunities are proposed to be given to be imparted in a proper way. It is wrOOI students who have passed class VIII and • to say that teachers do not reach the schools. live in the same village to work as teachers Some people talk in these terms deliberately. just because other well-qualified teachers Supposing a teacher is transferred SO kilo- do not reach there. It is also said that metres away. Tbe 'Pradhan', Members of regular teachers who are already there may the Panchayat Samiti or the ·Sarpanch' of be withdrawn. This is totally against the th e area will certainly be angry ~itb tbat Education Policy. The Education Policy teacher. Therefore Education should be says that an untrained teacher going to a brought under the Directorate of Education. Government school is a trespasser. Such a I suggest that the new project proposed person has no right to assume the role of to be started in Rajasthan should not be a Government teacher unless he is trained approved by the Government. for the job. Page 49 of the Report of the National Commission on Teachers says; With these \\'ords, support the Demands for Grants of the Ministry. (English) SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN "Cunsidering that the elementary is (Barmer) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, fint so crucial a level we are strongly of of al1. I thank the Hon Education Minilter the view that the professional training for the commendable steps taken under the for the elementary should begin only New Education Policy. after the twelfth class and the train- ing should be of at least two ~ears Areas of Rajasthan specially the district duration." of Barmer. are way behind the rest of the country in terms of literacy. Only 11 per (Translation1 cent of tbe population in Barmer. 16 per When the Government expects teachers cent in Jaisalmer and 13 per ceot in JalaUf to have read up to class XII and then gone are literate. Of the overall population in through a two year training. how are boys Rajasthan 24.8 per cent are literate while who have passed class VIII appointed as the literacy level in Arunachal Pradesh is teachers? Can there be any greater injustice '; 0 per cent. Rajasthan comes after to the children of those schools? The Arunachal Pradesh so far as education is Government should not sanction such concerned. Just 3 per cent of the female projects. This partic1J}ar project in the State population in my district of Barmer are of Rajasthan is very much in violation of literate. The entire State of Rajasthan, laws, the Constitution and the Education especially my district of Banner is much Policy. Only vested interests launch a propa- behind other States Only 20 per cent of ganda that teachc:rs are not available in the female population in Rajasthan is literate. Rajasthan. Because one can see thousands Such a low rate of literacy among females of trained teachers in Raja~than ready to does not exist anywhere. offer their services. They are in search of Now the question arises as to what steps a job but do not get it. They do not want the Governmeot has taken in this direction. to offer ~hem a job but want to send students In 1986-8 7 Rs ! 50 crores were provided who have passed chss VIII to teach in for education and in 1987-88 Rs. 800 primary schools. The Government should crores have been provided for. The Govern- be wary of such vested interests. Projects ment has done a remarkable job by spendina which actually seek to degenerate the stan- tbe entire amount of Rs. 800 crores. The dard of education must not be approved. education sector is very much imbalanced. At places which luspectors do not visit LiterACY levels vary from 25 per cent to education should be freed from the clutche; 33 per cont to 50 per cont. In my distric;t 403 , D.G. 88-89-M;II. 01 MARCH 29, 1988 D.G. 88-89-Min. 01 404 H.R.D. H.R.D. tho literacy rate is I 1 per cent. In order to Block Samitis. At present this programme remove tbese imbalances primary education is g~ing on in only one Block Samiti. The must be given priority in tbese areas. ·Operation Black-Board' programme should be started in every Block Samiti. The people The Government bas decided to open have welcomed this programme and it bas 3000 primary scbools in Rajasthan. Rajas- proved to be very successful. Therefore, than bas lOO Vidhan Sabba Constituencies. thi:; facility should be provided in all Block My Vidhan Sabba constituency covers 90 • Samitis. If tbere is u sbortage of funds then primary schools. I request the Government this programme should also be incorporated to draw up a special programme for the in the Border Area Development "Programme border diltrict of Barmer. Bnd provisions for funds should be made. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am not in This year Rs. 2 S crores have been favour of non-formal education programme. provided for this purpose, according to the There the eighth class pass students are tea- literature circulated by the Government. ching and at certain places seventh class pass Today there is beavy demand for primary students are teaching. Thus the standard of schools in that area. Ten years before the students is fa !li ng. A provision of 38.4 demand of this kind did not exist but today crore rupees has been made for it which is the absence of primary schools is being felt. totally wasted, I would suggest that all the The Government should open primary non-formal scbouls should be converted ~choots there keeping in view the necessity. into primary schools. In this manner wastage There is ample scope for opening 300 v.ill be stopped and a liviOg standard of the primacy scbools in Baemer district and 100 students will not fall. If the living standard primary schools in laiulmer district. Each of students falls then it will not be good 40 of them could have a strength of for the nation. So, I vehemently oppose it. students. Therefore. we should Jay emphasis You wish to promote education through on primary education. If the Rajastban this programme but it can never be useful Government cannot make any provisions if standard of students goes down. There to this effect then 200 primary schools fore. this non-formal education scheme sllouM be opened for tbe benefit of students should be dIscontinued. under tbe Border Area Development Pro- aramme. Students bave to walk 5 -10 kilometre41 to teach their schools. In these I appreciate your programme of provid- times of drought their health bas so much ing looms of 25 X 20 f~et for middle deteriorated tbat it is sheer torture to schools, bigher secondary schools etc. I traverse tbat distnnce on foot. :rbis is also re~uest you to build 2S x 20 feet rooms for one of the reasons why the attendance of remaining schooh of the backward border students is so thin. Each Revenue village area Beside~ this, there is a need for has spread over a distance of 50·60 kilo- constructing boarding houscl1 because there is no arrangement for the stay of students metres. It is no use opening one school per village as our area is divided into hamlets. coming from a distance of 25,30 or 50 One primary sehoul "should te opened for miles. There i, a need to construct Boarding every Iroup of 150 hamlets. Revenue villages Houses in Mohangarh and Nachoa of sbould not be taken a5 tbe basis for opening Jaisalmer. where Indira Gandhi Canal bas orimary schools Tbis is because eacb reached. Similarly, tbere is a need for cons- Revenue village is spread over a distance tructing Boarding House in Chohatan, of 50 kilometres. In view of this such Maiyajalar. Shiv Bnd Gadara road of directives should be given to tbe Rajasthan Barmer. An amount of 45 crore rupees has Governm~nt, been provided for the trainin8 of teachers and result of which bas been very mucb appreciated. It bas also raised their stan- The second tbing I want to say relates dard. The programme of establisbing Navo- to ·Operation Black·Board.' This program- daya schools is also a very good as it bas me should also be incorporated in tbe provided tbe pc,'ple of rural areas the Border Area Development Programme. opportunities of makiDg more progress. Tbe 'rbis pr~mme sbould be introduced in all locturers, readers aod professors in bieber 40S D.G. 88-89-Min. 01 CHAITRA 9, 1910 (SAKA) D.G. 88-89-Mln. 01 406 H.R.D. H.R.D. education are not selected on merit but vice- 4 fore. fUDds saDdioned by the Goveromeat chancellors and Heads of the Departments are not used properly, they are rather milu- behave in arbitrary manner. They select the ' sed. There is no coordination between the candidates of their respective universities and Department of Health and C D.P.O. The appoint them. Whether it is Jawahar Lal doctors are not appointed on permanent Nehru University or any other big university basis whereas it should be done. In view of they appoint their own lecturers, as Readers this no useful purpose is being served and Professors. No priority is given to the through this proaramme. Government peopl~ coming from other places of India should find out the lacunae and try to and selection is not made on merit. They remove them in order to bring necessary should be provided with guidelines. At pre- improvements. sent the situation has so much deteriorated that such teachers are being appointed in the Now I would like to say about technical universities who have no publications or education. Eighty per cent are unemployed literary contributions to their credit and who among our polytechnic Diploma holders who have never taken part in any seminar or have passed it in three years. They are not symposium. Thus standard of education is maintaining any contacts with industries. falling. Nepotism is order of the day. A tben how will they make use of their study. panel of experts should be set up on national 1 he technical education used to be imparted level for this purpose and the vice-chancel1ors in multi-purpose schools, but was not useful and Heads of Departments should ask for from the point of view of earning livelihood. those names only and not according to their own sweet wilL As a result of the present Such education should be imparted which system, standard of lectures is faJling aDd this should help them in earning their livelihood. is not in the interest of the nation. There- The standard of our education should be forf, steps should be taken to improve the high and necessary emphasis should be laid situation. on moral education as no attention is being paid towards it at present. There is no code I.C.D.S. blocks have been established in of conduct at present. Government should Barmer and Jaisalmer districts. They have evol ve a code of conduct and bring an end forgonen Pokhran area of Jaisalmer district to tUlioD-system. which is worst drought affected area. I C.D S block should be set up in Pokhran. WIth these words, I support the demands Forty·five paisa for children and seventy of Ministry of Human Resource Develop- paisa for pregnant women have been fixed ment. for food provided to them. It was fixed ten years ago and the same is continuing till [English] today. This food includes gur. wheat and oil. How can the children get aU this with MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House 45 paise. They are unable to ~et any thing stands adjourned to meet 11.00 A.M. especially when area js drought-affected. tommorrow. Therefore, it is of no use. Similarly. 70 or .8.03 brs. 75 paise have been fixed for the pregnant worren. This should be increased keeping in view the high prices. One rupee for children The Lok Sabha ,h," adjourlft>d till Eleven upto six years and Rs 1.50 for pregnant 0/ the Clock on Wednesday, March 30, 1988/ Chailra 10, 1910 (StIka). women should be fix~d immediately. The C.D.P O. appointed there is a corrupt man. The honest officer is not sent there. There- PlB. 40. xxxvn 25-88 750 @ 1988 By LoK SABRA SECRETARIAT Published under Rules 379 and 382 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha (Sixth Edition) and printed by Printwell Printers, Delhi-92.