"" "'* =" -~'~---_»- i - I;-~:~___.,_.., ~--»11¢»=;:!i :~: a V w - ~ _ > 13,! . - _ _.* , - c . :.'-', ~ .2-. _ _» . - .. -p_. , NM . , _ ». _ »- '7Q ' _ _ '1 .. < . _ ,- '~ ~ = " - :.. u »- J, :, -2 - , x i--' .SOBLE states he has not seen the Interviews of SOBLE continuing. scam again protested he desired to make full =nd complete statement, but that his '1 nemory had not returned as yet to previous vigor. SOBLE denied that he was attempting to protectROBERT SOBLE or others. Denied he had made a deal to protect ROBERT SOBLE or any other person. SOBLE claims he formerly had good memory, but that incarceration, Bellevue Hospital, had hindered it. Interviews continue to proceed slowly as SOBLE speaks in generalities and must be pressed for details in each and every instance. KELLY 2 I -5 923 I P -n .. _ _ -,.'. 1. ._ . ~ ii 4- ;:4.__|.-i.__~__-_.'.92 -_--' --~"-*4 -*5- --$5..-'_-'l/L;/-2- -1'-i=_ »:; _,',_--1;,-,:_;._5.=L:.;-£u:>~;i,;-A.,; ¢Q_L,-.;>:, i * . ".='.I." .1- 0 _2 Y 5 ! _ 4/as/51 .44 ,_ .' .92' - ~_ _-- _ " 1 - .. _,>_ _ F 2 ~ - 0 0 41- I. 'R-.!" l_-,L_.-'ffTI'§. ~- 1 , , . ~ , - ~ ' » *1 . > vv ff . ~ ' - 92 - "~¢* ~ » . s . 'l .3:.n . Y I l, 7 l - "i:T7>'I: M Ix>~ .a_,_ . _, -~. . - __._ .r.~ Fnou: mm tom: 00-eases!¢ . k ms ~ JLCKSOBIE, was E3? - H 'aw: 80B1E'interrieIed'morning of 4/as/67 at Federal Correctional Inetitntioii, Danhnry; c<>nn., re JANE and GEORGE ZLATOVSKIQ 80818 etateahe waaintredueed to JAKE at hone of , l!AR1!H1'ned ALFR8D'8!EH_ in m"'mmy after her retrun fran Indonesia -HovenberofoD'eoe"mber§1945!. 8081-E blained 8!EEH' touched fer"JAIB'8 reliability. " BOBIE denied that be knew or was told that JAKE Ind workedter 088 in Indonesia or U. S. . 'SOBIE admits receiving in presence of STERN a report by JANE on Indoneeia. SOBLE etatee reportwas typed in the office of a mane oi JAH8'8 in Iaehington, 1*. 6. rims» em oi report an shortly after henet JANE; SOBIE turned report over to O-' 80313 recalled that later he noticed eimileritybetween contenti of report and speech by HAHUIIBKY, Soviet delegate at UI, on ndeneeia. 1 SOBIE amen Ieveral other meetinge with JANE" and the 1 l STERN8frequently. A100 admits 'borr'mring about "$3,000.00 front JANE but states that thia loan was made on personal basil. " " SOBLE denies that he asked JAKE to go to Ganada ihen she ne't__BORIB BOBLE; Y gt claim! that JANE insisted 6n' n'92akin'g' trip to Canada for win r sports. SOBIE denied that he instructed oi- asked JAN'B'to go to France in 1947. Admits that in 1947 he arranged through KOUSHETZOV in Paris that JANE meet Soviet cen- taet in Vienna. 1 -3 - Bureen ; / W Ll _~ _ _,;; _ 4 . , 0; Q i»;4eeC0NTAmE0 0 ~__; /.;, 0T. ; v * If f-_-":11:i- Q 1____ 1*-- n xx 00-eases! -es-14102» s92a>-n!.--- - _,QA_{E gt]UNC%J~_§>3$fF{ED _ 1 '¢ nuoo-aeaee! P- nr' oo- Bupvnbsee Sub n! bu, EFIHJHQK . ew- p .. , 1 _ _ J . .___ | . ___ _.. i.-~.i:»_ .i.i -:1-. _'a;,,;_, .Le-.;:.'.i - _ - 1" $1--:'_T-; -a ~-/;>_.4-1.1;;-2.:--1__-._~ " _ 4 _ - , -,..<= .-Y. -.-,. I ..»-..92:. .11. 4 _..._ p I Q -' _..92.>._.' '.' - P V 1 NH YORK, H. Y. l 4/zz/s1 . *~ 92'~.~ ' . gs. ~; V , , 1., nriov-sew- - = . -~ .'.. : "' -1 - _ " -~-I E? -' -:" I; 2 » s 9 -esoneswas eae*<>r u . 8~i Iiiw . n?1'meet1a.q;'n'sf1n~pq;s,;;g,-scam . A» 5, describes first meeting iith ZLATOVSKI at 42nd Street * ' Cafeteria, NW in larch, 1949, SOBIE and i21Ai 0V_8K I iere ob-» served to meet at 42nd_-8treet Cafeteria after ZLATGVBKI had telephoned SOBLE requesting such meeting!. 8OBI2'o1e.iiz's at this meeting GEORGE was trying 'to'g'et SOBLE to repay loan frau JANE. SOBLE denies receiving infomationfrom GEORGE concerning immm military intelligence in Austria. sonm also denies instructing GEORGE to obtain job with U. 8. military authorities in urep. in ioso but mm. that esoaos was trying toget any jobs on his own and_d.id attempt to get job with military au iorities in 1950. $0813 also denies that he q instruoted JANE and GEOHIE to make trips to Austria in 1960_to oontaot U. S. intelligenee personnel they knew there. 8031.3 admits paying GEORGE and JAKE Ql5_0.00 per month. B0313 was vigorously interrogated at all points and was told hesrae withholding information and not making full disclosures. _ It is apparent that 808LE_when questioned oonoerning the obtaining of national defense information refuses to admit that be and other persons involved in this oase have obtained and were instructed to obtain such information. BOBLE appears to be attempting to build up o/story that he was an unirilling victim of Soviet pressure and now desires to oonvey a story as tohow persons snob as hinseli were uiedby Soviets for espionage as _92m1rilling tooiaqo: the Soviets. _Interviews continuing. KELLY QQ. x .» . 1 J" l< W '..J n;/.._. _ V __, __ H L 4 7 V. Q 4/23/57 AIR-TEL i. DIRECTOR, 00-352336! FBI ~ V '_ f£4 ~ . T0vw:-. .',. '".~_-.< - -21-.,1-__->2 .. __ ;,.2"}, _ , _-}.. ~: ,~ . -- » 5'V ;_~ . ,%~ _Q-Q > 92_;_=-;- 4-, ¢ F 1' ~~ ~-1 . - * »- i. - - - . 1 ~~~ »- = ..»' : ~ - .. »,1 . §¢.¢+.~.~~ -vi »§. -~./4.. '°5 Q ~ ' .~ '1» ', .¢ 6-- V-, - . p-sill ;... Y; x¬,5'*' -£51 ; Y»a"'_*> ,l' Z :2-*5_*_ i ,5, ii.» =I5;-37...'7:92*~'»92¢ "11 _~§"!"- 1»1.4 .~;4j ; _:';5 .~: !u'¬§ .>A_2-'1 lg Mai: . -#s _ 11~;"",.~ ~f~1?. 6 ;- :" T. » ,2? _~;¢ wVG ;. < ..*~~ » ~ ,~v: ;~1:#,':§ .="'=~.-.» . -:iv;~.» <é».11l..# a 15:7" 95¢ PW. ESP E» R 1* '-=;»;-;*;', ~-.~.-;,»'_vt. v"-"' ' ' '~3 -»-K * ' exW ,$ a*5,: -.{'~»'{ - 3». r: %§'*.3»?'4,.-:1-=1Iv: D"?-. "3', {»f~_»-W ;L : ti,&>.§: 1? -" . SOBLE interviewed p.m., 4/23/57, Federal Correctional Institution, Danbury, Connecticut. SOBLE stated that he new recalled knowing that JANE ZLATOVSKIwas with DONOVAN GeneralWILLIAM F. DONOVAN- OSS!, and that JANE_met DONOVANpersonally. SOBLE W88 unable to recall if JANE ZLATOVSKIhad a code name at the time he met her. SOBLE denied asking GEORGE ZLATOVSKI to look for a US Government Job in Europe and recalled that GEORGE ZLATOVSKIhad also located a Job at UNESCO on his own initiative. SOBLE claimed that he could not recall if he had asked MORROSto carry reports for him to Vienna. He denied knowledge of MORROSever making a report on DEWEY and WARREN. SOBLE at first claimed he could not recall, but later remembered that he introduced ZLATOVSKI to MORROS inParis. SOBLE claimed he could not recaD.stating that he was going to have JEANNIE OMTVEDTobtain a Job for GEORGE ZLATOVSKI with Marshall Plan in Europe. .~ Bureau 00-325386! RM! Los Angeles RAM! San Francisco RAM! Washington Field RM! NY 100-91470 NY 1Q0¬655§8@fV§ ,;7w' . ,T. ».1vf»',-.~~ ~ * *1 * f *."T~ @:3$- » v ~'.'. - » 2'., J1 ~,»:,, .-3;. NY .65 -,-14.702;SUB ;1> . v, ,=._.¢ .,, _,¢¢_* _~.<» »».- Q -x»»,§§_~:-,;.~,~-1-. -_;_ 1@Br4'36596=SUB.~#I{;%~-*"-_.:*1~<,[email protected] " - - Q. ~» ,92z5;;_»__g#92. I V»N¥,.19QTi3§8.9.6i.£7l¥§=§§:;?.:=- <,_ ;= 3 ._ ~ .. or s .,. ::~1l""- I E ...... .. v_ J l ._ " -~,;.. / 2 . ' 4,7,, DY;. we 3. _ , . r'=V ~,_ . ,_ '.'_;> u; ._-_ t =- »._.4 ~. { A-'£8 *1 _92 "' EFM:pcs #60!. _- : ~ 1! ' -".=v;; 1i Q4414 /W zz,m- /~' -Xca, ~-»----....._~...,* _...... ai>e»_-».a..Li..>:.=-~..=;._. .,_,___*; _ :...... --..-...,;._ . _ 4 . ~ I -_--7--.4/_a.i.»-_~l=1' ' . . _..__ ,_,» l92 -' A _J_ __.4 >-..a ,___1._h,_,id.'.~__¢_--,_ _ . -. J; 1 _.M. . .hv:. _. _ K 5 0 q " ' 1 z NY 100-86895 1 >v. J _~ -», .. »_, , _ "92~ - t __ 92 4.. -.1. . . <-_-_- _ . . _.; 1 -_ _ 2 V . SOBLEc1aimed.he was.unablet9 recall r§§eivin8' » reports ofJANE ZLATOVSKI concerning intelligence Us F-i» 92 agants Au8tria__i SOBLEadmitted-that~when he=went¢to;. -»~ {» Moscowhad beenin Indonesia19117 in né*~ss1a* ,- and wasS.oyiet1B.*J5hE~..tYa theclose friend of MARTHA_ Jljnsiylztawovsigil STERN. SOBLEclaimed thathis recollection was that he first met GEORGE ZLATOVSKIin a cafeteria on 42nd Street in New YorkCity, but SOBLEalso admitted that he had metGEORGE JANE and ZLATOVSKIat the apartment ofthe STERNS Newin YorkCity, probably in l9H6. SOBLE statedhe had definite recollection of such meeting becauseZLATOVSKIS' troubles marital were discussed toon recallwhether this occasion. meeting in STERNS' SOBLE a artmentclaimedinability tookplace before hemet GEORGEZLATOVSKI the at 2nd Street cafeteria. _ . SOBLE also recalled meeting JANEZLATOVSKI at a small hotel in NewYork City, but claimed inability to recall in whose roomJANE was staying. SOBLE claimed inability to recall statement that he had agentat_ Encyclopedia Britannica.SOBLE recalledthat meetingwith the ZLATOVSKISin Paris were at the CafeRotund, at the 2 Coupole Restaurant and L'AiglonHotel. 1 '4. @ . < . 15 i 2 2 2 1-AA__A u .Jlvn=<- L¢J .t~9292.»¢ _'92 Q:92-92ud-a.~..L_¢:_t>.u¢-u.:.,:>.'- A .... -1 ,-~,;.- . --. -Aiih --4.. 4 ~ _ - .__-_.~ __ ~ -:~".'_ _l_~.~._;;~'._-_-.a_l4 - _.g. ,"-"" '92"'.._>92_,u,.-.4._J. 4-/» _ - 1'-';' _si-4._.- _3__v_,_;_ _.3* .-4. AA. ' l""" . . _92-;._;____92V__r:!h _. '~ ~~»._.._...._-..._.__...._i¢ _ _.< _ ~- -'-1.'=~-~-_ .. . ---~ S 9 NY 100-86896 A Y. »'- '_. - w . . , -_ ~ ;. ' ..> . -- ; . ,<.SOBLE;claimed that MYRA SOBLEYfirst met, .2.» "* the.ZLATOVSKISFatiDeauville, France in 1950;. SOBLE at p claimed inability_to¢recall if JANE ZEATOVSKIever §3Q, mentioned WILLIAM and EARL BROWDER, but stated that" the STERNS mentioned BROWDERS. Other than mention of names by STERNS, SOBLE claimed he recalled no other incident concerning the BROWDERS. SOBLE denied that he had stated that JANE ZLATOVSKI had produced a "pile of papers" for MARTHA STERN. with reference to house in Washington which STERN took SOBLE to visit in 1945, SOBLE stated that STERN had probably used the house for clandestine purposes on prior occasions since STERN knewthe owners of the house well VAN CASTEEL!. SOBLE advised that MARTHA STERN had probably told him that JANE ZLATOVSKI had been in espionage work before he, SOBLE met JANE. SOBLE denied making a statement that JANE had furnished "two valises" of information on Indonesia which was used by the Soviets. SOBLE again claimed that he did not recall giving MORROS' re- ports on ZLATOVSKI and OMTVEDT to carry to Vienna for him.to paiSOBLEJANE denied ZLATOVSKI having$11,000 made the after statementhis return that from he had Moscow in 19 9. SOBLE denied that he had paid money or given gifts to JANE FOSTER in the United States. He again admitted paying the ZLATOVSKIS $150 per month in Europe and stated that the ZLATOVSKIS gave him receipts for this money signed "JANE" and "GEORGE." SOBLE stated that these receipts were given by him to KOUSNETZOV. SOBLE stated that at one time he was contacting two different Soviet superiors in Europe, that is the Vice Consul at Berne, Switzerland and KOUSNETZOV in Paris. SOBLE stated he did not recall the name of the person who came from Moscow to Paris and contacted him in 1950. He denied urging MORROS to make up with STERN or to enter another Soviet Cover Company after MORROS and STERN separated O . . - ' .~ *" - ,- . - ,-_ - .~ ' . - ,. ' » K _ __ ____, .' , v .} '" V '1. - I . . z § . .8 3 _ -- -._.-s--~...¢._..-.,,'__ . , -.'-, _. " it __._",.<' ' -".L- ~A L;4 _ ' ._W..- -1_~;4r I~. _ .-_-»-.,<.'..». ;L*:-& -§§I> ij_.4.-_.1->._,_ ,,,__y_h.; ;;*~_:_;,_t '» . / _,, 1-is ~ I _ _ 5 NY 100-86896 .~_ ;i_.A. ~_'_' _ _=- . Io < . . _,-I . _ g ~~ y _-, :j - . ' _ .~,_ , 92.'_e. ;w..-~-» » » ».» - - W :7». A92. ' 6 v~ ,__§r I' ?. 'oIie_de riied-telling -I-Mo3__13;$_s¥.'iiélsévé t <1 § Ythe' fs§viét§"id 1;a has ~P¢PQ1 :5?t°n icW1.@¢11m;t.he,; nwent OR-RQSE*E!.1r<>1éfe 31¢ R111 #9i ¢ 92._:3 ~ **1a947*.~in 1947_ because~SOBLEi _admitted._that'5he§'met . _ CHOUNDENKO instructed-the'}wSoviets;@-in him, P3,to do so¢.~_~z» IEuro when hegot hisUS passport.SOBLE advisedwas again that hewas notmaking fulldisclosure andclaimed that if this were so it was becauseof faulty memory. At eachpoint in the aboveinterrogation hewas assured that his inability to recall or his denialof certain matters didnot correspondwith knownfacts. During this interviewas in prior interviewsSQBLE wasasked if there were anyother personsconnected withhim or with the Sovietsabout whomhe hadnot makedisclosure. Interviews continuing. KELLY. ._ ,1;; .__= Lg : '_ .'. '~5.,.: <. .~,. . .§. ',_ __ __-;- t ~ .__. ._; _ __. - . -..---_ _ _ - ~~ M __._, _ W ,A_,r-' _ ~ a.-._,.. I _ f4_4->L 7_'>92 l7' .._ ;'-3...:-.:,_;_;. :'~._i'___- -1'4 a LL;;.._.*.". ; ~* I , , 1*-,-'-_-. / 3 __ _ ul ''~ _ '- 6 - =~A~-'4. 1..."-.-_:,.,:__,:;_..'_i , ...... ,...... _....-_.i,..-...__-.~.o»< L..'_':.-92* -**<*.-:r'r", .!* _'>:'f>, ; ,,_T-_ II;}-.i -_ _'> _ "' F34 -.1 _ .92 I __<1~ - . _ . ~ ~ »"~ __., AC _, -~ = -,, _v~ . ._ -0 86896», , K ,, __ _ e., 0 v , V. »L ? :_;__ _ J. ; 92 3;.!" V ' " A "f~-Z:-14" "~' " ~. ->.:..= --. " Ii1..'*'- Q» 2-...-... i"* ,___> " .'.;g *1" - i 4 "' § M i ~ -/ .- "=. ' "_';n, -1",, ~ ~~*.7. ° _;. ..,! #3.-._1. -». 1 »-_.92. -. ,-. Q? ., v"§# * * *"?'1-§" f5< él:~~Ij =}' §;Fi§T;'"~. '~f-:&*>§ >3-'7'?"¢.""* *3 ~""" r a ' '1'' -~ "n'-3 v._. - 4/23/57 AIRTEL "svswve kifDIBE¢T0B§.FBIéIl0°s352335! 4* {v =;s.z i Q ;~ *~l'.¬i??é;:*.?%?¥?§?@§%%3;?.as s . a. *'¢»~:~§4:1@5rse ?**i;@9; *,T;¢*<"¢3 ;%q?~1,,"-I ~ now .13 _. a wft . ya ,;~a;»% .§$= la? am»? g _<~;~!L.-0-1.,ESPIONAGEj. .A> .¥~ 1¢,_}"!.-.' ;~'92"::iR,_+. -'- §;,-;~~V 3,»_~_"_-..;- , x 1,; -5k Q é _ vi {¬'f§_?»; ' ~ can -:_,i,,_ -~_ "_;_f92.._,.- $.v'§* '5¢; :'*..¢§' her JACK-~'SOBLE'*<,AL mas.-;..% ~ - J. . '?i%.,~:¢i<._ , ' ii MOCASE! _ v f >9 »4 Y 09¢ -';"'¢., /jg 7 .r was' MYRASOBLE, in interview 4/23 instant, stated recalls that on day in 1948 when@KOROTKOY requested ¢. to send money to Argentina, JACK SOBLE toldher, it I notfor two tailors. MYRA cannot recall amount, but believes more than $400.00, namewas a short one, and Jewish, possibly MINTZ.She believes.KOROEK !save hercash with which she purchased a money order at Credit Suisse, Geneva. /. Denied knowing of other transfer through MORROS,or ZLATOVSKIS. ~ MYRA cannot recall any meeting with.JAHES1HAREIH July 4, 1950 andis very confused ondates andevents. Cannot recall meeting OSCARYOLLES inMontreal during July, 1950, when shecontacted LADSKYand ELIASfor reports. New York letter to Bureau ll/2/50, page 3, 1 reflects JACK SOBLEon Z/3/50 in contact with YOLLESand § told him MYRAwould contacthim duringher visitto Montreal , s July, 1950. MYRA advisedknew YOLLESas an Austrian living g i in Leipzig andBerlin, Germany1929; thathe was a Comunist *| then turned Trotskyite; could not make living in Germany, 1 was supportedby SOBLB;thru funds furnished by SOBLE, § went and to Canada about 1929, works as real estate manager for rich cousin named YOLLESat Toronto. MYRAstill maintains . YOLLES not involved. Stated ELIAShas beenvery depressed 8.115 very scared of being arrested since the IGOR GOUZENKO Burea1_1, 00¢,352386,! R?4.-! __ p , - 3_ ,8- !<~. 3-':§-""~LO$ AnSe1¢8 BAH!Ei]f@&7~ ;5*5?a*»x¥a57f 1§ é!fw*.." ¢~., 1,. ., .~:~> _.e fol. 1 _,1; . washing'toi1*:.Field'..; "R'M'! 7wY.65-147o2~suhlb:~==* .ALL?W,F9KMAT?¬3f§a HEREINnsuwcmsscra nsIBQN.TA!NE9,; _ 1 . _ . _ V y _ =*:»::-_.-_- ~-._~_=._,_..;_,.-.4::_z.;5:1:1-.1 "_'__' NY;. .,10°-$5896 _, 4 v- - ' X . 1- ~..,_92 ... .__ -_ ,. _. '_ V nV . - _ ~ . . Y, ~ _ _ .. Q; ., - _ . . 3 -:» .1- - » _-» ..-' - .. V - a . - _ _ '=~~ .*' ' .. ~' : »=..,' - » ~ . . : defectionin Canadaland ha§Iexpressed;s oh_fears-in.§§§?K'W ' Q1 MYRA!B presen¢e.?iKn°Wl§¢é§Z0f;re¢eiP?from JACKSOBLE whilein'Eurbpe. allegedly through;TZ¬@i>*§§L;@ vii bfif hd81i9H7:¥259§5J% Black marketchannels andlater dispositionreviewed again with MYRA,with little results. She cannotrecall dates, amounts fromor whomreceived. Maintainsmoneys madeby SOBLEin bristle business. SOBLEexecuted letters directed toCredit Suisseand CreditLyonaiss requesting transcripts. Lettersairmailed 4/23instant. Scarf given toMYRA ESTHER by RANDI*sentfrom Paris by SOBLE 1948, obtained. MYRA tobe interviewed#/24 next. GEORGE WOLF subject's attorneynow plans visit to JACK Danbury,at latter part of week. will requestUSA permissionto bring MYRA with him. KELLY. . . _ _ ",1 I+ »_ - 2 - - _._¢'...... - ". ' Q 4/9*/57 Q = ¬>9~35 8<.5! L - Y»; .1 <> .,_. :~ I; Q"- = ucx sears, was ' t use - n mam! ~ e JACK SEEK interviewed lggderal correctional Inst-itntim, Danbum, Connecticut, artemoonly _/57. . saw: gain denied that esem zones met er his seesaw! uithhol eapioaagengonnec intonation. one. SOB!-E 303:3 again dmied. protested that he that ever he made was a.not - statement or that he had knowledge or e. conference among B53008, BOHLSH, TRUMAN and H . eoneeming SOBLE offering repeated 01' bristles story that tc N318 F914!!! SOB-LB of Amtorg in Canada. amt in letter1942. JACK SGJBLE denied knowing at that time the siguifioenee of this letter, altheugh he admitted that the Soviets in Russia. bed told him they would make contact with balm in this manner. 8012-E than repeated story of meeting rem: and ZUBII-IN in New York City. SOBLE stated that it was not until the third or fourth meet1ngu1thzU;BILDl thethemet zez lnl . $03-Eatatedthat at that tine, ROME $3 was not in teueh with the seviets, but that he, JMZK, intmqlueed MEET be ZUBILIH later in 19#2. SEES repeated story that mzaxmm net ZUBILIH in Rea: York Ci-W and placed this eate as probably in early month. 1943, $9313 SOHLE atatedthatELI&8ImeIZOBII=IRwaatromsoei.et§nte111gen¢¢.claimed he coul not eqalain why ELIAS wished to meet the Soviets but that E1158 knew SO33 had contact men the Soviets. %?£ i Je£i2i .'¬i§3?-$3 " 1-».~ ,.*92.,,/ n ,_ .. zmsciaee {Ln mg 7 §_; ;:evt~:?z;ef*e f z AINEQ ?}%;§»%i5EN SS U ti <;:;SEFlED %-1§?'%'§'§;-w3:1lLB§1~BY§.E; ].BlQQ/_.Q,B < new rm: 00-86896! _ . V. . .. __ I _ v_ ._ _ :- -4% £4-A 8%» ri -' 28" -». . - . . . - > _ . ,_ ___ ___ ,-__ - _ ~ -/. ,1 g L >/ . zwmzm 1:¢1a Mn the aovieta poaseasicm at the ramhauae.1 $93.8» 'l_u§$_.n!baeow!.al.9'§8. a amaz gzm sovieba mp° 1i1m& that EH18 ha not ame anything for the sovietsq. 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A A I W Fnowi" 's Ac, sw"vcR1< P as s "'i{>0;8e;8<é-6! " ALLmFORMmz** ~¢comma ~ 1 R * .~ % §§ fRS%?¢ 6§As%? . Q; 9-ATE._2_L&*1HEREIN -"L UNCLASSWIEQl b. BY§.E..:Z;:1iw~ ._ F§:i5 7 IL .5 MYRA SOBLE,on interview h/2h instant, identified scarf received from ESTHERRAND l9hB, sent to MYRA bySOBLE from Paris. Also identified small piece costume jewelrygiven to MYRAby A. K. STERN, Christmas,l9h¢. Stated now positive ROBERT SOBLE,during December,1956, statedthe individual with whom he had a fight on 57th Street, NYC, was the "Professor". JACK told MYRAZUBILIN didnot like ROBERT SCBLE because he acted like a "Sphinx". Stated ROBERTand JACK did not discuss the Boris Morros musicCompany in front of her, but she is almost sure that ROBERTknew JACKwas introducedto MORROSand STERNby ZUBILIN. MYRAbelieves RDBERTknows ALBAM'Sbackground and involvement. Stated about l9h2-l9h3, ROBERTtold JACKand MYRA the recordat Paris Prefectureof Police on "SOBOLEVICIUS" applied tohim, andthat he was askedto leave Paris, 1937; that while in Paris, 1937, ROBERThailed a taxi, one night an 0 entered it; the driver was one "MOLINERE"a well-known Trotskyite 9 ROBERT hadbeen a Trotskyite, had just returned from $pain where he served in medical corps of "Revolutionists". MYRA cannotrecall what ROBERT wasdoing in Paris, but a couple of days after meeting "MOLINERE", ROBERT qas called to Prefectureof Police and requestedto leave France. Stated JACKsaid he met ROBERTin Paris, while he, JACK, wason Soviet Mission against the Trotskyites at Paris. ROBERTnever mentionedif he knew ZBOROWSKI,even after his name appearedin newspapers. " '. Stated ROBERT treatedGUBITCHEV, whocame to him from- H.I.P.- that GUBITCHEVtime one presented. 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Does not know if report prepared by JANE on "STEPCZYK". - Knows JANE and GEORGE received $1¬O monthly salary from JACK. Stated does not recall GEORGE, at JAGK'srequest, sought US Government job. Recalls while at ZLATOVSKI apaetment GEORGE read her a letter he waswriting to someone, protestingrefusal of some position because GEORGE wasconsidered a security risk. JANE laughingl Y told MYRA, after listening to GEORGE'Sprotests in the letter, she, JANE,was almost convinced GEORGEwas not a security risk. JAOK told MYRA in19b? about trip to Canada, 19b7,with JANE and meeting BORIS SOBLE. JACK told MYRA he met JANE accidently at railroad station. JACK, on b/16 last, admitted to MYRA of his "affairs" with JANE in NYC, l9h7. t 'MYRA Willbe re-interviewed A/2% next. Phonograph records, made by Boris Morros Music Co. 5 /0"" obtained by JACK ip to Hollywood with STERN, l9h , furnished NYO by A/2b instant. will be exhibited to subjects for identification. _ KELLY , 4 s a ,4. > _ A - P134, - . . _ . ._.1_....,~.V_-.-.-.:_. _ _ _ __ ._ 5" .- ' - ~-. g Q I _ _.& 1.C '___,___D!V. 1 ___._._..Dl92'. 2 . _,__.DW. 3 4/25/51 ____S£C.1DIV. 4 _.___SEG.2 _____S£8.8 ;___..SEC.4 ____$Ic.s e, _ ___¬§?c.s no = n:cmcacn,r.o: oo-ssa } c _ - =*°-Y " v o L d . .ALLolF~EF0RW;1~=*:=@;» -LuNTAlNEt§E§"§ * Haaemuxsuméi isserlm as: JACK- seam, n mamas!no 'DAT£w[25 w§;p;y_@g1wz:§§§§§ " '~ Dmtmry, coma. SQBLE was Besaid interviewed that hcnonip 4/25/57 rm-1; I. 1!. at surethe thathtcr g 3.6.1.,-" meeting with Gmm zmmvm occurred at the ¬%8! . 80$-8 coated that in his opinion, zmrovm mew that he mmfé uasasovietagent at thattimc. $0BLEmanotaurcvdw§:cr-- znmovw learned this from JANE ZLMOVBKI, the 3%.? or himcen ' SOBLE recalled hearing that ZLATOVSKI, while in the US Anny, had the aaaiment or interrogating people cmlains 1ntotheUszoncs1nE92u'opc. SOB!-Ewaaunabletorecalluhohc heard this tron. 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Went for expresspurpose havingof JACK SOBLE contact Soviets to makearrangements SOBLES for get to outof Lithuania. MYRA advised that JACKSOBLE a sawSoviet official in Moscow, thatand shelater learnedthat thisofficial was BERIA.Stated sheis not certain thatROBERT SOBLE saw BERIA,but doesknow thatROBERT SOBLEknew that JACK sawBERIA and was awareof purpose of JACK SOBLE'S interview withBERIA and also hadknowledge subsequent of arrangementsfor made fraudulent passports get to EDBLES out of Lithuania. 4 Interview withMYRA sosm continuing 4/27/57. KELLY 3-Bureau 00-sszsss! Rm! 1-Los Angeles RM! 1-San Francisco RM! l-Washington Field RM! _ l-New-_Ycrk es-14702sub n! 1-Nevrifiork , oo=ssseeY Q @_3_Ne.w 00-asses York SubN! '~s JEM:me'b 0! ~ /W %A'%""/1/ .3=/M M I 1. ~ .. ».».,.»V '.~ . ' , " -* a ~ <-» .;l_.,' ' _. _ V, .... _ = -_._._:_*;_-_;--_ .__. M,C 3 ,2 , 0 _ P Y F 1. ix &".' , . " 5., .92 , » M,5.aw,L Mx1 » A if. .. -§.:_-92.-*__ Q < ;~;.._..- A. 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" ; ,.lE5THER.R1iND hei'd"to_ld,hi-m'_~littl"e ahoutfher,pas_t _vlif_e", *j;¢ ' " 5 .»= tho92i g}{f S'OBLE "admitted 'that-. he knew Ygs had? é'eL1&is ed- 1? ti law. SOBLE stated that he did not tell ESTHER,of his. own past except that he came from ussia and was an old time CP member. SOBLE recalled that MYRA SOBLE had told him that in 1948 when MYRA applied for a passport, the passport was delayed. MYRA mentioned thedelay. to ESTHER and ES'liEQ_R_ told MYRA that there was a lawyer associated wi illewish organizations in Washington who took care of passports for t"-e organization and that ZBSTBIER would expedite MYRA's passport through such a lawyer. MYRA also told ,'JACK that ESTBEI} had told l."YRA that ESTHER had contacted the lawyer, and the lawyer had gone to the passport office and expedited MYRA's passport. Y'RA~ later received the passport through the mail. MYRA X SOBLEwill be interviewed concerning this matter, including possibility that lawyer had Soviet connections. JACK SOBLE claims his last meeting with ESTHER was in Paris in 1948, and he did not subsequently meet her in New York. SOBLE stated that recently before arrest, he inquired of ROBERT SOBLE who told him that¢ESTHER~v was still a patient of ROBERTS. SOBLE claimed that the last Soviet contact he had withi.'li §_,4"ZHE_1§_ RAND was in late 1945, that is a month or two before he last saw CHOUNDENKO. SOBLE reiterated that reports of ESTHER RAND dealt solely with Jewish organizations, Arab Jewish relations and Mid-East oil concessions. He stated that the reports»§31lTHEB gave to himwere typewritten and about two to four pages in length. Claimed he could not recall the nmnber of such reports. SOBLE denied that he ever took any reports of ESTHER to the Soviets in Europe. SOBLE stated that ESTHER RAND gave him a copy of "B1ack Book", which 1! concerned Nazi atrocieties, and on parts of which ESTHER claimed recallthe tohave ,,$oviet worked. code' name _SOBLE of ca E'nor§;¥ain claimed he he..pcou1d_,not-now_ 'name , -:1 . rt .. g H 6 was i ;h"she_ signed her reports, though he believed "his Seifiét /' v ' contacts refe_rre_d.to her as? . Ir_1"l949 'KQRO'I I{QX I. i'5;; ;= ', ,3 3 2 *1 mentioned ."Je'wish5Cpsmopolita1i",_' and told SOBLE to stary away from Jews. 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SOBLE intensively questionedabout meetingswith BOOKERor other persons whofurnished him with information of any nature includingTrotskyite information.no denied any recollection meetingof anypersons withBOOKER, getting and information fromBOOKER'S apartment,other thanthat supplied bySYLVIA DOXSEE.SOBLE deniedmeeting any personsuch asMILLER withROBERT SOBLE.SOBLE would not makea clear denial on these matters but statedhe could notrecall. During interview, SOBLEcontinued toassert that he formerly hadgood memory,but blamed stay at Bellevue Hospital forpoor memory now. e stated that hemay recollect in the future butvvas againvigorously informed that it was necessaryfor him to supply all information immediately.During interview, Warden HETSTROM,1-"01, Danbury, Connecticut,advised SOBLEin presence of Agents, that in accordance withinstructions of AUSA GILCHRIST, SOBE tois be sent toNew YorkCity on4/29 nextBor con- ference with SOBLE's attorney. Interviews continuing. 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