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2266 ASSEMBLY Wednesday, 19 May 1993 by that company of a relative of a person on the class of authorised investment. That measure is board who is a subagent. As the honourable member aimed at rectifying a problem raised by the Victorian for Melbourne correctly said, the former government Government Solicitor. enacted legislation some years ago which took some time to come into operation; it was designed to The honourable member for Werribee referred to prevent the practice of licence lending. Alert Digest, No. 6 of the Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee dated 27 April 1993, which That legislation has been successful in preventing refers to the new definition of "authorised the practice of licence lending but it had an investment" and specifically the provision inadvertent effect on family companies, 67 of which authorising the Treasurer to approve an investment had to restructure in such a way that the wives and or class of investments. The committee questioned mothers on boards had to resign and other whether that may be: arrangements had to be made. That was extremely unfortunate because those women had put ... an inappropriate delegation of legislative power ... enormous effort into the family businesses. Very because it removes an important matter from the often they were employed as receptionists or typists capacity of the legislature to make a positive input as to when the businesses commenced. They may have its content. spent many years working in the businesses, making them successful and serving on the boards. It states:

I was approached by a number of family businesses The committee's concern would be met if the because in these hard times - particularly in investments approved by the Treasurer were expressly country towns - there a few job opportunities for subject to Parliament's scrutiny by tabling. children apart from in the family businesses. I was alerted to the appalling catch-22 situation that if a That comment underlines the importance of the child came into the family business the mother had committee examining Bills. The sort of provision the to step down - that is, a decision had to be made committee draws attention to appears in a large about which family member would be employed. I number of Acts, and I refer particularly to the discovered this problem about 18 months ago. I Borrowing and Investment Powers Act. It is useful considered the issue to be important and raised it to have the committee direct such issues to the with the former Premier, the honourable member for attention of the House. Williamstown, and requested that she correct the anomaly. My request was unsuccessful. I responded to the committee by saying I felt it was inappropriate to deal with and isolated instance of I am committed to equal opportunity ideals. I that type of provision by asking the Treasurer to certainly have given equal opportunity a high table the specific approvals. I thought the issue priority and one of the first law reform measures should be taken up as a general issue rather than an referred to the Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations issue relating to this Bill. However, I considered Committee by this government was the review of there to be considerable merit in the committee the Equal Opportunity Act. It was intended that the raising this point. I informed the committee that review should pick up the government's policy of until the issue is examined more broadly - which is including age discrimination in the legislation as a matter for the Treasurer -the approvals under well as other issues relating to the procedures of the this Bill will be specified in the annual report of the Commissioner for Equal Opportunity and the Equal Estate Agents Board. Opportunity Board. It would be unfortunate to embark on equal opportunity legislation while that I understood that that was an acceptable inquiry is proceeding and before the government compromise, but perhaps I was under a receives a report. However, the need for this Bill is misapprehension. That was the basis upon which quite clear. the Bill was amended in another place so that it now contains the provision to require the Estate Agents The other provisions in the Bill relate to investment Board to include certain information in its annual provisions in the principal Act. They have been report. withdrawn and replaced by up-to-date provisions which describe the types of investments permitted. Motion agreed to. The new provisions also clarify the fact that the Treasurer may approve an authorised investment or Read second time. ESTA TE AGENTS (AMENDMENT) BILL

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The DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! Is leave of the to be the position of the Scrutiny of Acts and House granted to proceed to the third reading? Regulations Committee was not at all the position of the committee. Or Coghill - Leave is refused. The concern of the committee was not that Committed. information should be made available to the public; the concern of the committee was that the Committee legislature - one or both Houses of Parliament - have the opportunity to influence this action by the Clauses 1 to 4 agreed to. Treasurer. For example, if the approval were tabled in the House an opportunity would be provided for Clause 5 the House to express a view about the approval that had been given by the Treasurer. That is the Or COG HILL (Werribee) - I listened carefully to fundamental point, and it has not been picked up in the Attorney-General's response in closing the the amendment made in the other place and now second-reading debate, particularly her response to incorporated in clause 5 of the Bill. That is a matter this clause and the capacity of the Treasurer to on which the Attorney-General should report and approve investments or classes of investments. advise the House. She should respond to the comments I have made. In the absence of the honourable member for Doncaster, I find myself having to speak as a It is the central concern of the committee that there member of the Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations be accountability of the executive - in this case the Committee. Treasurer - to Parliament. It is not just a matter of providing information to the public and to members A number of issues arise, and I suspect that one of of Parliament as part of the general public. It is a them may well be that the Attorney-General has had matter of the legislature having an opportunity to previous conversations with the Chairman of the express a view about an executive decision by the Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee which Treasurer. led her to believe that the suggestions made about amendments in the other place would be acceptable Mr STOCKDALE (Treasurer) - There could be to the committee. That is certainly not my few contributions more pompous and arrogant than recollection of the report of the committee. that of the honourable member for Werribee. It is clear from the course of debate that the I suggest to the Attorney-General that it is important Attorney-General has done no more than try to to take note of the formal position of the committee accommodate the views of members of the Scrutiny rather than something that has been discussed of Acts and Regulations Committee. The subsequent informally in whatever forum with individual events have demonstrated only that she was most members of the committee, whether they be the unwise in pursuing that course. chairman or any other members. There seems to be some misunderstanding by the Minister in the other Apparently the committee does not have its act place. With the indulgence of the House, I will quote together and has not reached agreement on all his words: matters. If the arguments mounted by the honourable member for Werribee are representative The amendment flows from consideration of the Bill by of the views of the committee, I for one think the the Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee, which committee ought to be disbanded. recommended that any approval issued by the Treasurer regarding the nature of funds ought to be The committee is pushing its charter to a point that incorporated into the annual report of the Estate will make governments unworkable. It is fatuous Agents Board. The amendment will ensure that the nonsense to argue that Parliament surrenders information is made available to the public. The control by delegating discretions to Ministers. For Committee should support the amendment. literally decades Acts of Parliament have conferred discretions on Ministers in terms either limited by In the latter case the Minister refers to the criteria spelt out by Parliament or unfettered in Committee of the Whole in another place. As would order to enable a class of investments which cannot be clear from my comments in the second-reading be foreseen, as in this case, to be defined to protect debate, what the Minister in the other place asserted the public interest; such Acts are absolutely legion. ESTA TE AGENTS (AMENDMENT) BILL

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It is fatuous to suggest that the House surrenders accountable to Parliament. The response of the sovereignty by conferring a discretion. The decision Attorney-General on a number of similar Bills has to confer the discretion is enshrined in legislation. In been extremely meritorious. Indeed the approach some cases discretion is limited. If both Houses she has adopted on similar legislation has been to choose not to limit discretion, Parliament is still ensure that reports of those sorts of decisions are exercising control. To suggest that every executive made to Parliament. It is not a matter of members of decision ought to be referred back to the Parliament the committee frolicking on their own; it is not a in order to protect the sovereignty of Parliament flies matter of pomposity on the part of the committee. in the face of centuries of history of the Westminster system. The comments of the honourable member for Werribee were perhaps poorly expressed or even The Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee is misunderstood. The concern is not to hamper the going overboard on a range of issues that it true workings of government or the executive, but constantly raises in its yellow peril documents merely to allow the executive to report to Parliament delivered in Parliament. on the exercise of those forms of discretion.

Honourable members interjecting. I note that the committee has reported to Parliament on commencement clauses, inviting subsequent Mr STOCKDALE - I must confess that, as has comment from members on provisions that did not been pointed out to me, the Liberal and National meet the views of the committee on commencement parties established the committee. The history of the clauses. The committee has merely noted the committee so far would give me cause for concern as variations and expected some explanation from to whether we did the right thing. It is probably Ministers. It certainly has not in any way sought to appropriate at the end of the sessional period for the hamper the proper workings of government. House and the government to review whether the committee ought to continue to function in that way. In this case, as in others, the Attorney-General deserves credit for meeting the criticism of the For example, the committee's views on committee by ensuring that the exercise of discretion commencement clauses mistake entirely the by the executive is reported to Parliament. She question of the proper relationship between the deserves congratulations. I was not in the House at executive and Parliament. Parliament does not cede the time the honourable member for Werribee authority by allowing the executive the flexibility to commenced his contribution to the debate. Perhaps put in place building blocks to make legislation if I had been in the House and had addressed this work effectively. These are in the main issue before he did, no misunderstanding would administrative matters. have arisen and the Attorney-General would have received the credit due to her. The line of reasoning pushed by the honourable member for Werribee is fatuous and threatens the Mr ROPER (Coburg) - The House has heard a very workings of Parliament and the executive rather sycophantic contribution from the Chairman government. His criticisms of the Attorney-General of the Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee. are entirely misplaced. She has done no more than In the very limited time available, the government endeavour to do what the members of the having guillotined debate, I mention that in almost committee wanted - namely, to have ongoing all instances there has been agreement among consultation and endeavour to accommodate their members of the Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations views. It was churlish of him to have phrased his Committee. On the rare occasions that agreement criticisms in that manner. was not reached, the committee dealt with the matter. Mr PERTON (Doncaster) - The debate on the clause is an indication that the House is under some The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr Richardson) - stress in sitting this late at night, which has been Order! The honourable member's time has expired. made necessary because the opposition has filibustered on a number of Bills. Clause agreed to; clause 6 agreed to.

My understanding of the approach of the Scrutiny of Reported to House without amendment. Acts and Regulations Committee to these sorts of clauses is that essentially the executive ought to be Passed remaining stages. CLUB KENO BILL

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CLUB KENO BILL Loney, Mr Vaughan, Or

Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and Motion agreed to. Em ployment) - I move: Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and That this Bill be considered an urgent Bill. Employment) - I move:

Required number of members rose indicating That the time allotted for the remaining stages of the approval of motion being put. Bill be until 2.45 a.m. this day.

House divided on motion: Mr ROPER (Coburg) - The guillotine motion again demonstrates the government's absolute Ayes, 58 contempt for Parliament. The Club Keno Bill was Ashley, Mr McNamara, Mr introduced only 13 days ago and was read a second Bild stien, Mr Maughan, Mr time on 6 May. It is a small but important Bill that Brown, Mr Napthine, Or significantly expands the range of gambling Clark, Mr Paterson, Mr opportunities in Victoria. I do not intend in speaking Coleman,Mr Perrin, Mr on the question of time to canvass all the issues Cooper, Mr Perton, Mr involved in the legislation. However, that should be Oavis,Mr Pescott, Mr done even thought there is not adequate time to Oean,Mr Peulich, Mrs consider the legislation. Ooyle,Mr Phillips, Mr Elder, Mr Plowman, Mr A.F. Again the Leader of the House, with the support of Elliott, Mrs Plowman, Mr S.J. the government, has said, 'We do not care about Finn, Mr (Teller) Reynolds, Mr debate on this Bill, we will simply use our numbers Gude,Mr Richardson, Mr to ram it through". In doing so the government is Hayward,Mr Rowe,Mr moving towards guillotining its 50th Bill in the space Heffeman, Mr Ryan, Mr of 10 weeks of Parliamentary sittings. Henderson, Mrs (Teller) Smith, Mr E.R. Honeywood, Mr Smith, MrI.W. I introduced this Bill in a different form in 1991. In Hyams, Mr Spry, Mr the debate we need ask the Treasurer to explain the jasper, Mr Steggall, Mr differences between the two pieces of legislation jenkins, Mr Stockdale, Mr because he did not do so in his second-reading Kennett, Mr Tanner, Mr speech. Kilgour, Mr Tehan, Mrs Leigh, Mr Thompson, Mr I know that the Treasurer and the Chairman of the Lupton, Mr Traynor, Mr Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee, the McArthur, Mr Treasure, Mr honourable member for Doncaster, are in deep McGill,Mrs Tumer,Mr conversation, and one can understand why that is McGrath, Mr j.F. Wade,Mrs thecase-- McGrath, Mr W.O. Weideman, Mr McLellan,Mr Wells,Mr The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable member for Coburg should come back to the question of time. Noes,24 Andrianopoulos, Mr (Teller) Marple, Ms Mr ROPER - I am trying to address my remarks Baker, Mr Micallef, Mr to the Treasurer, who at the moment has ears only Coghill, Or Mildenhall, Mr for the honourable member for Doncaster. Cole,Mr Pandazopoulos, Mr Cunningham, Mr Roper,Mr The SPEAKER - Order! After 20 years in this Dollis,Mr Sandon,Mr place the honourable member for Coburg knows Garbutt, Mrs Seitz, Mr that he should address his remarks to the Chair and Haermeyer, Mr (Teller) Sercombe, Mr not to the Minister at the table. Hamilton,Mr Sheehan, Mr Kennan, Mr Thomson, Mr Mr ROPER - Certainly, Mr Speaker. On the Leighton, Mr Thwaites, Mr question of time, I introduced this legislation in a CLUB KENO BILL

2270 ASSEMBLY Wednesday, 19 May 1993 different form in 1991. On that occasion members of Running Parliament like this does not ensure good the coalition requested additional time to consider legislation, as was demonstrated on the previous the Bill if that was required, and the government at Bill, when the Leader of the House guillotined the time undertook to provide that. In the end, the debate even though a member wished to raise a current Treasurer said he did not need additional reasonable question during the Committee stage and time and proceeded with the debate a fortnight or so time expired before the answer could be given. The later. On that occasion there was no attempt by the result was that we still do not know precisely what former government to guillotine the debate, unlike answer the Attorney-General intended to give. I the position adopted by the current Leader of the think she was a bit thrown off by the speech of the House. Treasurer. Nonetheless, it would have been appropriate for that opportunity to have been In dealing with this Bill the House will be dealing available. There may well be issues in relation to the not only with the issue of club keno. Club keno must Club Keno Bill on which we also want answers on be seen in the overall context of gambling from the Treasurer. arrangements, which have undergone major changes since the original Bill was introduced in Firstly, we should not be asking the Treasurer those 1991. Honourable members should have the questions after 2 o'clock on a Thursday morning. opportunity of discussing the changes that have However, if that is to be done it would be reasonable occurred since that time to determine whether the for time to be allowed for those questions to be club keno game should be allowed to proceed. answered.

Earlier in the day there seemed to be some sense in The opposition will not take up the time of the the way the House was operating. The Leader of the House by moving an amendment on the motion House is now full of complaints about delays in concerning time. It has become clear that the processing the Racing (Amendment) Bill, yet he government is not prepared to be reasonable when it personally intervened to prevent the Minister for comes to allowing time for debate. I simply make Sport, Recreation and Racing from responding to the protest that the guillotining of debate in the early issues raised by me and the honourable member for hours of the morning is not a good Parliamentary or Morwell. If the Leader of the House had had any democratic process. intelligence he would have known that that response from the Minister for Sport, Recreation and Racing Mr LEIGHTON (Preston) -It becomes clear as would have concluded that phase of the debate. the night goes on that the government has Instead, the Leader of the House did not care for the guillotined debate on this and other Bills because it judgment of his colleague and rode roughshod over is trying to disguise the fact that it wanted to whip him in his mad determination to get to the Freedom the Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill of Information (Amendment) Bill so he could move through. The government now feels obliged to the guillotine motion, as was always his intention. guillotine other Bills so that that Bill does not stand out. The opposition strongly supports the Standing Orders Committee considering the question of An honourable member interjected. adequate time for debate and reporting on that matter during the next sessional period. As a Mr LEIGHTON - If time permitted, honourable Parliament we need to prevent a government from members would be delighted to debate the merits of running the place by a combination of guillotine Bills, but only half an hour to an hour and a half has motions - which are rapidly approaching 50 in been allowed for debate on Bills. That is no way to number in this Parliament - and late sittings. The deal with legislation. In the early hours of the government is deliberately keeping the Parliament morning it is not subject to the scrutiny of the press sitting each night as late as possible. I do not know and members of the community cannot be present what the government believes it will achieve by for the debate. guillotining this Bill through at 2.45 on a Thursday morning, except to demonstrate its contempt for The government !'as control not only over the timing Parliament. It is particularly difficult for members of of the introduction of each Bill and how much time the House Committee, who I understand have to it allows for debate but also over the management of meet later in the morning. the whole session. Debate after debate has been guillotined near the end of the sessional period because the government decided that Parliament did CLUB KENO BILL

Wednesday, 19 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2271 not need to sit until 9 March; this sessional period allowing members of both sides the opportunity of could have started earlier. Even after the participating in debates. government delayed the commencement of the sessional period until March, it had no legislation to By guillotining debates the government is not proceed with. The House had to wait until the end allowing the House to go into Committee to discuss of March before any real legislation came forward. Bills. The only time the House gets a chance to go into Committee is when the government has Honourable members, including members of the amendments to move, and then the House is forced government, have not had any real opportunity to to go into Committee. In the past couple of weeks debate legislation because in the past couple of the government has privately acknowledged the weeks Bills have been rushed through. Sitting five need for amendments but it has refused to introduce weeks in a row has also been unsatisfactory. If the them in this House so that it can avoid going into government had any sense it would have extended Committee and so that the Ministers can avoid the sessional period by a couple of weeks to allow responding to individual clauses. As a result debates more time for scrutiny of Bills. That would have are truncated. Ministers do not even have to close given all honourable members time to debate each the second-reading debates let alone be forced to go Bill. through Bills clause by clause.

One of the obscene things about the way the The government is using the guillotine to protect its government has been managing the business of the Ministers; it is also using the guillotine to protect its House is that it is determined to ram all legislation oncers. The guillotine is a convenient device. through in the next couple of days so that the Premier can get to China. While the government and Mr Kennett interjected. the Premier are worried about how it would appear to the Chinese if the Premier did not arrive on time it Mr LEIGHTON - The Premier can look around is trampling over the Westminster tradition. While and see that some members will not be coming back we still have a Parliamentary system the Premier next time. should see that his first obligation is to the Parliament; but that obviously is not the case. The The SPEAKER - Order! Exchanges across the government is guillotining debate on Bills so that the Chamber at this time of night are disorderly. I ask Premier can flee to China. the Premier to stop interjecting. The honourable member for Preston should debate the question of It is obvious that the Premier is desperate to avoid time and not respond to interjections. any extra Sitting days. It is predicted that tomorrow will be the last sitting day of this House even though Mr LEIGHTON - When only an hour or two is all honourable members understood that the House available to debate a Bill only one or two speakers would be sitting on Friday. If the government were are able to debate. The guillotine is a convenient prepared to adopt sensible Sitting hours each day device for the oncers to go back to their electorates and to add extra days to the session there would be and say that there was not enough time to speak on no need to guillotine debate on Bills night after Bills. The fact is that if they do not use that time night. But the government wants to avoid extra before 1996 they will never have an opportunity to sitting days so that it does not have to have extra participate in the affairs of the House. question times or adjournment debates. While the oncers are content to be rolled time after Mr Kennett interjected. time and be part of guillotine motions, they do not appreciate that ultimately they are doing a Mr LEIGHTON - You are in a real hurry to get disservice to this House and to themselves. More out of this place and get to China. importantly they are doing their communities a disservice because they ensure that the government The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable is able to continually ram legislation through member for Preston should address his remarks without proper opportunity for debate or scrutiny. through the Chair. Instead of guillotining debate on one Bill after Mr LEIGHTON - The Premier is making it clear another in the early hours of the morning Parliament that the government has no commitment to the could sit on Friday. The opposition is prepared to Westminster system and that it is not committed to come back in the next couple of weeks. CLUB KENO BILL

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The SPEAKER - Order! I believe the honourable that and there were occasions on which the member for Preston has mentioned that before. honourable member for Coburg approached me about Bills saying that he reached understandings Mr LEIGHTON -It is not surprising when one with the opposition Leader of the House and that Bill after another is guillotined. members were not adhering to it and the coalition endeavoured to arrange for members to shorten The SPEAKER - Order! The Chair was their speeches in order to have as much compliance remarking that the speech of the member is as possible with the government's timetable. becoming repetitive. The reason the Labor Party in government did not Mr LEIGHTON - Approximately 20 guillotine use the guillotine was because the coalition in motions have been moved this sessional period and opposition did not behave as the Labor Party is approximately 20 were moved during the last behaving. sessional period. There is no excuse for guillotining the same number of debates in this session as were Mr Leighton interjected. guillotined in the previous session. The justification for guillotining debates in the previous session was Mr STOCKDALE -It is not absolute nonsense; because it was only a three-week sitting and the you are seeking to go around the Press Gallery government needed to move quickly with tonight beating up an issue out of the government legislation. That excuse is not available to the endeavouring to compromise on the one hand the government this time and it should have ensured right of opposition members to debate matters and that this session was a full one. on the other hand to get the government's legislative program through when your members stand here The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable using virtually the same sentences one after member's time has expired. another - up to 27 of them on time - complaining that there is no time for substantive debate. The Mr STOCKDALE (Treasurer) - This is another opposition is deliberately using up the time that is example of an attempt by the Labor Party to rewrite available debating the issue of time. The opposition history. The government has been forced to the knows it as well as the government. measure it is now employing because the opposition has not behaved in the way the coalition behaved Nothing can more illustrate the absurd behaviour of when in opposition. There have been occasions in the opposition's suitability to remain in opposition the current sessional period when Ministers and in perpetuity than its behaviour during the spring shadow Ministers have reached agreement on time, sessional period last year when we had the situation and there has been an orderly processing of debate when not only did the Labor Party debate time for with members having a reasonable opportunity to the whole of the time available for anyone subject participate without disagreement. but called divisions on everything; even the fatuous behaviour of calling divisions insisting that the three I speak with some authority because on a number of questions be put separately to take a Bill into occasions the honourable member for Sunshine has Committee when the opposition and the been prepared to do that and we have had a debate government had no amendments and even when the that suited both sides and have even allocated time opposition supported the Bill. between Bills to facilitate debate as the opposition wanted and at the same time facilitate the orderly The community has a right to know that the Labor passage of the legislation. Party set out with no lesser an intention than to make Parliament unworkable, and it succeeded We have had the fatuous exercise tonight where the before the government reluctantly took the step of Labor Party said it should take only 10 minutes to setting a time at the beginning of debate on each Bill. deal with a Bill but its members then proceeded to debate time for an hour and a half. Why? It was The Labor Party has nobody but itself to blame for done to make a political point. the fact that the government is having to use the guillotine motion. It is a hypocritical argument When the coalition was in opposition the normal because the Labor Party has deliberately engineered procedure was that the government sought and this situation in order to have the basis for the claims usually obtained agreement on the duration of the that have been made around the Press Gallery debate. I concede there was not always adherence to tonight that the government is somehow responsible CLUB KENO BILL

Wednesday, 19 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2273 for this action when it is the Labor Party that is these hyenas get up on their hind legs and bray bringing it on the House. about it so they can run around the Press Gallery and peddle an argument to the people of Victoria Why? Because the Labor Party has nothing of that the government is undermining democracy. substance to contribute in the debate; it cannot be bothered doing the work of developing policy This is not the first time the Labor Party has positions; it wants to avoid having to declare its undermined democracy. It is constantly putting as hand on Bills; it is not prepared to put in the an issue the legitimacy of the electoral process in this intellectual effort to participate in substantive debate State; yet the actions of the Labor Party are and it wants to fritter away the time on sterile debate fundamentally undemocratic. The actions of the about time. Halfpennys who have been quoted in the newspapers calling for people to refuse to allow the Mr Leighton interjected. government to govern for its term and these debates on time in this place are clear examples of the Labor Mr STOCKDALE - I am responding to the Party fundamentally rejecting democracy. It does drivel that you have been peddling around the not adhere to the basic values of the acceptance of gallery tOnight that it is the responsibility of the the judgment of the electorate. It will be held to government that the House is behaving in this account for that at the next election. fashion which is not compatible with orderly processing of legislation. OppOSition members have Mr MILDENHALL (Footscray) - I have been giving trivial speeches about time for an hour managed to refrain from participating in the debate and a half. It did not debate the Freedom of on time on the last 46 occasions when Bills have Information (Amendment) Bill, it spent most of the been guillotined, but at 2 o'clock in the morning and time available debating time. having been one of the targets of the tirade of abuse from the Treasurer I feel compelled to say a few Mr Leighton interjected. words about it on this occasion.

Mr STOCKDALE - You took all the time If the plea from the government is for cooperation, available debating time; you are one of the biggest then the least likely strategy to achieve that is more offenders of the lot. abuse. Some attempt should have been made to come to agreement about the conduct of the The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable government and the business of the House. My member for Preston will remain silent and I ask the understanding is that there has been a large degree Treasurer to address the Chair. . of irritation on the government side about the duration of the Racing (Amendment) Bill and that Mr STOCKDALE - The honourable member for has led to some of the guillotining of debate on Bills Preston is the leader of the faction but does not have tonight. One of my assignments was to read some of the wit to think up new arguments, he simply those previous debates on the Racing (Amendment) repeats again and again the same point. You, Bill. It is clear that only one or two speakers from Mr Speaker, had to caution him about tedious both sides contributed to that debate. repetition because he does not have the wit to come up with a new argument and put interest into the The SPEAKER - Order! I have allowed the debate; he wants to talk out the 10 minutes so that honourable member a deal of latitude, but he must he can then complain that he did not have time to speak on the question of time on this Bill. put forward his views on the substance of the Bill. Mr MILDENHALL - The amount of time What are his views on the substance of the Bill: allocated to this Bill is a little over an hour. That time where are the speeches that he has given on the sends a message to the House and to the wider substance of issues? He does not have the community about the significance of the issue and commitment to debate the substance of Bills; it is too the relative importance of the Bill. easy to engineer these frivolous debates on time. If the opposition wants to debate this Bill in the time The government allocated a little more than 1 hour that is left it now has enough time for a number of for debate on this Bill, about 2 hours for the Estate members to make substantive contributions on the Agents (Amendment) Bill and about one and a half issues raised in the Bill. Let us have that debate. I hours for the Freedom of Information (Amendment) predict we will not! We will have another string of Bill. The amount of time allocated for those Bills CLUB KENO BILL

2274 ASSEMBLY Wednesday, 19 May 1993 sends a message to the community about the members to take part in debates, as we were elected government's view of the relative importance of the to do. That is an inherent right that we all have. issues. Honourable members, like the honourable member for Footscray who has done some work on the Club A number of opposition members and I were keen Keno Bill, should have the right to take part in the to debate the Fol Bill because of its importance. The debate. I have not spoken in many earlier debates on issue was the subject of articles in today's Australian the question of time, but when I have I have raised Financial Review and Age newspapers; it is a matter issues that I feel strongly about. I believe my rights of national importance and of interest to many and the rights of other honourable members have honourable members. But when debate commences been curtailed in this debate. The government on the Club Keno Bill there may be only two should allow more time. speakers on either side. There is a dramatic difference in the importance of these Bills. The second issue is that you, Mr Speaker, and the Leader of the House have a legal and moral Honourable members interjecting. responsibility to provide a safe working environment - and that responsibility should be Mr MILD EN HALL - It amazes me that the taken seriously. I suggest that you are not above the system under which Parliament operates has law, neither is the Leader of the House. The laws of allowed that to occur. Surely there must be a better this State make it clear -- system than the one we have. We must examine what happens in Federal Parliament, where I The SPEAKER - Order! It is not a question of understand that Bills are brought on for debate, time the Speaker being above the law. I interrupt the is allocated and the debate ensues from that point. honourable member because he has made a The recommendations that have been made by reflection on the Chair. I have no power to curtail former Standing Orders Committees should be debate in any manner whatsoever. The honourable examined to ascertain whether a better system can member's reflection is disorderly. be found. Mr MICALLEF - Then I direct my remarks to I had undertaken some work on the Club Keno Bill the Leader of the House. The Leader of the House is and was looking forward to debating it. It was responsible for the health and wellbeing of interesting to read the Hansard record of the debate honourable members and the staff of Parliament on the original Bill. As the honourable member for House. In line with Victorian occupational health Coburg said, complaints were made that the Bill was and safety legislation members of the House and allowed to lie over before it came on for debate. We staff have a right to issue a provisional infringement are now getting a repeat of the earlier argument and notice on Parliament. If they feel their health and we have learnt nothing from it. wellbeing is in danger they can put a prohibition notice on the House. The Hansard staff, the door It is now two days from the end of the sessional staff, the general staff and the dining-room staff period. I hope wiser heads will prevail over the could put a prohibition notice on the House and an 14-week recess and that a commonsense approach inspector would then be required to adjudicate on will be taken to the management of government the issue. business. Mr Steggall - Is that what you want? Mr MICALLEF (Springvale) - On the question of time, Mr Speaker, I feel compelled to contribute to Mr MICALLEF - I believe they have those the debate after listening to the incredible statement rights. It is a wonder that no-one has taken up those made by the Treasurer. In the past the Treasurer has rights under the legislation. Again I point out that spent many hours debating Bills on behalf of his the government is not above the law. It must party, so it is almost unbelievable for him to make consider what it is doing by making honourable the contribution he made this morning. His speech members and staff work hours well beyond what is was inconsistent with the way he behaved when he considered to be a normal spread of working hours. was in oppOSition. He should take a good look at The government is putting the health of honourable himself. members and staff at risk. The Leader of the House should take a good look at the legislation and act I shall refer the House to two serious issues on the . responsibly so that we can all work in a reasonable question of time. The first is the right of honourable manner. There is no reason why the House cannot CLUB KENO BILL

Wednesday, 19 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2275 sit reasonable hours on Thursday and Friday of this if 1 hour is set for this debate there will be an week. opportunity for only one opposition member to speak. I understand we may not be sitting on Friday because it is not in the interests of those who make I note that when time limits have been placed on the decisions. I again put on the record that if debates a government member usually takes up anything happens to the people working in some time. That occurred to me during a debate on Parliament, including members and staff, the which I was very keen to speak. A member of the government is responsible. The government is government wanted his opportunity, which is a fair leaving itself liable to either prosecution or litigation thing, but as a result I was unable to speak on the by anyone who is adversely affected by working Bill. That happened to me during the debate on the these ridiculous hours. It is about time" the mini-Budget when I had prepared what I thought government got its house in order, got its act was a sensible contribution that I hoped would help together and started acting responsibly so that we the House in some small way. However I was can all live like decent human beings and ordinary prevented from making any contribution at all members of the community rather than being because of the use of the guillotine. subjected to this nonsense. It also happened to me tonight when a group of my Mr THWAITES (Albert Park) - This guillotine constituents were here to watch Parliament. They motion, like the other guillotine motions the were not terribly impressed with what they saw. government has moved time and again, makes a They asked me how it was that the House could deal mockery of the whole process of Parliament and is with the Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill consistent with the attitude the government seems to in an hour and a half. I indicated to those people that have that Parliament is just an impediment, I had expected I would be making a speech on that something that ought to be avoided at all costs, Bill and I was as disappointed as they were that that something that ought to be ignored. opportunity did not present itself; it was denied me because the government persists in playing the In his contribution the Treasurer appeared to be numbers game and gagging members. putting the blame on the opposition for the House sitting at 2.20 a.m. The Treasurer seems to be When the House sat a few weeks ago for 26 hours forgetting that the government controls the business under the leadership of General Maclellan the of the House - the government has the numbers. opposition hoped that when the Leader of the You can determine the time; you can determine to sit House, the Minister for Industry and Employment, proper hours; you can determine to give adequate returned commonsense would prevail. The morning time for debate; you can determine to sit on Friday after the all-night sitting the Minister said on radio of this week, or even next week, but you are not that it was the government's intention to maintain prepared to do so! The government seems to the orderly conduct of this House. Here we are only vacillate from one extreme to the other. Sometimes a week later with opposition members trying to the House will sit all day and all night, and finish at have their say -with government members 11 a.m. or 12 midday the following day so that the sprawled half asleep or dead asleep on the whole afternoon is wasted. That is not proper benches - but being unable to make any leadership. The government is showing no contribution on anything at all. What happened to leadership at all in the way it is managing the the intentions of the Leader of the House about the business of the House or running the State. The orderly conduct of this House? government simply moves from one thing to another. The Leader of the House has referred to the Commonwealth system and the way Bills in Federal The Treasurer claimed that opposition members did Parliament are allotted a certain time for debate. not have any substantive policies and did not want Indeed the guillotine may be applied in the to talk on issues but just wanted to debate time. The Commonwealth Parliament. I challenge members of fact is that opposition members want to debate the the government to provide evidence of any Federal Bill, but they will not have the opportunity of doing legislation being rammed through in an hour with so. no chance for debate at all - it has not happened.

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Information Bill was debated, and that was raised Mr THWAITES - The time the government earlier tonight. However, that Bill was extensively allows for debate on legislation is not in proportion debated in the other place. to the importance of it; one-line bits of legislation can be debated for hours and important Bills are The Premier comes into the Chamber smiling as if it rammed through. This House saw that in the last is all a joke. I should have thought that there is still a session when it debated for 8 hours the deduction of role for Parliament and for members like me - union fees from Public Service payrolls whereas the humble backbenchers - to contribute to debates on Employee Relations Bill and the WorkCover Bills. Honourable members should have the legislation were rammed through before anyone had opportunity of debating the Club Keno Bill just as a chance to debate them properly. we should have the opportunity to make a contribution to the mini-Budget, the Freedom of What is the risk apart from the risk to democracy? Information (Amendment) Bill, the Sentencing The risk is that in haste mistakes are made, and it (Amendment) Bill or any other piece of legislation. It could well be that this Bill has mistakes in it and it is not as though this legislation is of no importance will have to be returned to Parliament at another whatsoever; criminal penalties are involved, and time to be fixed up. Are we going to come back here that is an issue that should be debated in the House next week to agree to some amendments made in to ensure that the legislation is appropriate in that the other place because it has found that the regard. government has stuffed this Bill up? That is what it is about - proper consideration. The legislation empowers the Governor in Council to make regulations. There should be an opportunity The DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! The for the House to consider whether that honourable member's time has expired. regulation-making power is consistent with the sorts of rules the House has decided on other occasions Mr Roper - Mr Deputy Speaker, I direct your are appropriate. Does it delegate too much power; attention to the state of the House. does it allow the Governor in Council to amend the legislation under which the regulations are made? Quorum formed. We are not going to have any chance to consider that. The Bill comes in and is whipped out before The DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! The question you can see it! is:

None of the members who are nodding - and That the remaining stages of this Bill be until 2.45 a.m. nodding off - on the government side know what is this day. in the legislation; they have no opportunity to know because it is going to go through so qUickly. This is Motion agreed to. not democracy - this is the jackboot approach. It is the same sort of approach adopted by the Second reading government when it attacked the newspapers that had the temerity to raise an issue the government Debate resumed from 6 May; motion of did not like. The government will withdraw its Mr STOCKDALE (Treasurer). advertising from the newspapers it does not like - that will be the next thing. What will be the next Mr ROPER (Coburg) -In November 1990 the step? Closing them down altogether? Labor government sought to introduce club keno by means of the Tattersall Consultations (Further Mr Kennett - Close what down? Amendment) Bill to complement the successful introduction of the game in South Australia. The Mr THWAITES - Any newspaper you do not then opposition used its numbers in the Upper like. That is your attitude to democracy - close House to block the Bill. A reading of the debate in them down. the other place shows that the then opposition knocked back the Bill because it believed it The DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! The question interfered with the existing arrangements with before the Chair is one of time. The honourable Tattersalls. member for A1bert Park got a bit sidetracked, and I draw him back to the question of time. Victoria suffered twice as a result. Firstly, many potential players were deprived of the opportunity CLUB KENO BILL

Wednesday, 19 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2277 of enjoying the game; and secondly, the State lost a gaming machines but which have Pub tabs, because great deal of revenue, a subject the current Treasurer not every hotel with a Pub tab wants or needs is constantly bleating about. Had club keno been gaming machines. That is particularly so in the introduced two and a half years ago the State would non-metropolitan areas where there may be some have received more than $40 million in revenue. sense in making the game more widely available Although the exact figure may be less than that, the rather than simply relying on licensed venues. estimates provided by Tattersalls were favourable. It is expected that under the new game the rate of As I said, the introduction of the game into Victoria return to players will be set at 75 per cent. There will would have complemented the successful be an expanded version of the existing keno game, introduction of the game in South Australia and with draws conducted electronically at 5-minute New South Wales. The keno game was originally intervals. Players will be able to play the game introduced in Victoria in 1989-90 under the through on-line computer terminals to be placed in Tattersall Consultations Act. The broadly based way all electronic gaming machine-licensed clubs and in which keno was introduced was a world first, and hotels throughout the State. The results of draws the game then expanded into Tasmania, where it will be made available to players by means of TV enjoyed Significant popularity. monitors mounted in all outlets and connected to the Tattersalls on-line gaming system. Although I do not need to explain the nature of keno to the House, it is played on an on-line computer Those honourable members who have visited system through 670 Victorian and 67 Tasmanian casinos throughout Australia will be familiar with accredited retail outlets. Draws are held every night the way the game is presented. If they had visited of the week and the results are screened on South Australia three years ago they would have television. seen club keno played in that State, just as they could have seen it operating in New South Wales In 1990 the government agreed with Tattersalls' less than two years ago. If the then opposition had proposal to introduce a more broadly based version supported the Bill introduced by the Labor of club keno that would have involved more points government, members of the coalition would have of sale and would have significantly increased had two years to familiarise themselves with the returns to players. The normal return to players on way the game is played. all Tattersall consultations is 60 per cent, but the Bill proposed to increase the returns by reducing the Over the past nine months the keno game has kept applicable duty rate. the interest of players throughout Victoria. Some $52.83 million had been invested in the nine months The Bill is different from the measure introduced by to the end of March, compared with the previous the Labor government, because in that instance year's figure of $51.33 million. Keno has not been questions were raised about whether the Tattersalls Significantly affected by the introduction of club keno would be operated only in Tattersall electronic gaming machines, unlike Tattslotto, which venues by Tattersall agents or whether it would be in the nine months to the end of March experienced made more widely available. A number of members a $32 million drop in turnover. This game will of the Liberal Party expressed concern about the attract particular interest because it is based in the proposed widespread availability of the game. growing number of electronic gaming venues. If it is more widely available, it will become even more Under the Bill club keno will not be available popular. The projections Tattersalls provided to me through the network of accredited Tattersall and presumably to the government are based on agents - I understand the agents are concerned participation only of venues licensed under the about that, and I would appreciate the Treasurer's Gaming Machine Control Act, which reinforces advising the House whether he has received any what I said before - that is, that there are virtues in representations on the matter - but through venues examining other gaming venues, particularly in the licensed for the purposes of gaming machines, outer metropolitan areas. which may include venues operated by Tattersalls and the Totalizator Agency Board. The projections suggest there will be 260 operating venues in the first year and 500 in the second year. I ask the Treasurer to tell the House whether he has The gross turnover will be $93.6 million in the first had discussions about whether the game will also be year and $234 million in the second year. The avai:able in hotels which are not registered for government duty revenue is estimated at ADJOURNMENT

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$19.2 million in the first year and $48 million in the Motion agreed to. second year. In New South Wales, a club keno game that operated last year under similar circumstances Read second time. at 2SO venues turned over nearly $3 million a week. Passed remaining stages. The opposition does not oppose the Bill. I would have liked the opportunity of raising general issues ADJOURNMENT about the way gambling and gaming is developing, but that is not possible in the time available. Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and Employment) - I move: I know my colleague, the honourable member for Footscray, wishes to participate in the debate. That the House do now adjourn. Although the opposition does not oppose the legislation, there should be additional opportunities Financial Counselling and Consumer for the Treasurer and Tattersalls to pursue and the Information Service opposition would support Tattersalls in doing so. Mr LONEY (Geelong North) - The matter I raise Mr MILD EN HALL (Footscray) - The Tattersall is for the attention of the Minister for Fair Trading Consultations (Further Amendment) Bill debated in and relates to the Financial Counselling and November 1990 sought to introduce a similar game, Consumer Information Service in Geelong, which but it would have been provided at different venues. provides a very important support mechanism for The essential difference between that Bill and this the Geelong community. The government-funded Bill is that in the intervening period the responsible and community-operated agency provides a free authorities have deemed that gaming machine service for consumers in Geelong and surrounding venues are more appropriate than Tattersalls outlets districts. It is particularly aimed at advising those for the operation of gaming. Perhaps that is a good experiencing financial or consumer difficulties. thing, because the honourable member for Ripon was concerned that club keno would operate The service provides information about consumer through Tattersalls outlets and he thought that rights and advice on appropriate remedies about would create a sleazy atmosphere. such things as purchase of car contracts, faulty repairs, lay-bys, exchange of goods, door-to-door The venues are a critical difference in the two Bills sales, and so on. The service has proved to be and it is ironic to note that the then shadow invaluable in Geelong in recent years; its customers Treasurer, now the Treasurer, complained during have totalled approximately 60 a week, and a the debate on the earlier Bill that the notice given consumer support worker is employed by the was too short to properly debate the Bill and that service. even though the Bill had been delayed for 12 days it was too early to conclude a view on it. The then Yesterday the service was advised by the Minister Leader of the Opposition, the honourable member that its budget for this year was to be cut by an for Burwood, complained that the debate had been amount representing 44 per cent of its former brought on at 1 o'clock in the morning. budget - even more than the amount recommended in the Schilling report. Club keno will have Significant financial advantages for Victoria. The Treasurer's second-reading speech The action by the Minister appears to be remarkably notes a net gain to gambling revenue of $4 million in insensitive and obviously has been based on poor 1993-94, but the honourable member for Coburg advice because the Minister's reason for the noted that the government duty revenue is projected reduction in funding is on a presumption, as stated to raise $19.2 million in the first year and $48 million in a letter from her office, that points out that the in the second year. That is a dramatic difference. It service did not have a coordinator for some months demonstrates the folly of not passing the earlier Bill and, therefore, obviously did not need full funding. and the necessity for clarification of the financial arrangements. In fact, the funding for the position of a coordinator was used by the service to fund an extension of The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable hours for the employment of additional personnel; member's time has expired. The time appointed by in that way an extended and complete service was the House for me to interrupt the debate has arrived. provided to the Geelong community. ADJOURNMENT

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The effect of the cuts means that the consumer ambitious to become the shadow Minister for Public service person there is now to be employed on a Transport - this article shows that he seeks to basis equal to approximately 80 per cent of full-time replace the Leader of the OppOSition as well. I am employment. This basis of employment will prove to not so sure about the Labor Star, but I am most be totally inadequate for the community being concerned from a motorist's point of view about the served. The Geelong community is becoming upset proposals of the honourable member for Pascoe Vale about the funding cut because most people consider and I live in fear of the prospect of his becoming that the service is sorely needed. shadow Minister for Public Transport.

I ask the Minister to address the matter of funding Police violence for the service and to look at the mistake she has made; perhaps the Minister may restore the funding Mr HAMILTON (Morwell) - I bring to the to its proper level. attention of the Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs a most serious matter concerning racist, Labor Party public transport policies completely unacceptable, despicable goings on in Robinvale in northern Victoria. I have with me six Mr LEIGH (Mordialloc) - The matter I direct to affidavits from people who were witnesses to an the attention of the Minister for Public Transport event on 6 May. A Koori was bashed by police. He concerns the April edition of the Labor Star, and to was kicked while on the ground by police and hit what may be described in that newspaper as the with a baton. This is completely unacceptable policy agenda of the aspiring Deputy Leader of the behaviour. It is outrageous that this should happen Opposition and the aspiring shadow Minister for in Australia; it should not be allowed to occur. Public Transport, the honourable member for Pascoe Vale. I will read briefly from one of the affidavits to give the House some idea of what happened. I read from In directing this matter to the attention of the a statement by Kevin John Pearce: Minister I note that the honourable member's policy agenda for transport also criticises the industry When Janice Whitton and I received the phone call policy of the Keating Federal government. I will from Janet we both went around to the flats in Warier quote from what the honourable member for Pascoe A venue. I saw the two policemen hitting William Vale says on transport in the Labor Star: Bowden while he was falling out of the police ute and they kept hitting him while he was on the ground. I ran We need to examine, as other cities have done( a over to them and told them to stop hitting him as you registration fee or licence fee for the right to travel into might kill him. The policeman said that he had broken the inner city area. Such a fee would discourage the rear window of the utility. I said that there was driver-only cars travelling into the city during peak enough of them to control him enough to put handcuffs period and provide a fund to support better public on him without this continual bashing of him. The only transport alternatives. reason that I yelled at the police was that I had grave concerns of William's safety. Honourable members would be aware that about 50 per cent of transport going through the city is Mr E. R. SMITH (Glen Waverley) -On a point driver-only cars. It is very difficult to get around the of order, Mr Speaker, is this matter before the city of Melbourne. I drive a car and am concerned courts? Is it sub judice? about this suggestion from the point of view of motorists driving into the city. I am curious to know The SPEAKER - Order! I have to ask the what action the Minister for Public Transport will honourable member for Morwell whether this take on this proposal. Does he support not only this matter is sub judice and whether it is before the proposal but also the proposal that the honourable courts. member for Thomastown be replaced by the honourable member for Pascoe Vale as shadow Mr HAMILTON (Morwell) - To the best of my Minister for Public Transport? knowledge, it is not. The information was given to me by a solicitor, who would I imagine have been The Labor Star is a most interesting document, and of aware of that. particular interest is the article headed "New Policy Directions Needed for Labor". Perhaps the The SPEAKER -Order! Dare I say that that is honourable member for Pascoe Vale is not only no guarantee, sir. ADJOURNMENT

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Mr HAMILTON - It is an extremely serious I am aware that in the inner east region there is matter. We are all only too aware of the Rodney disproportionate spending on health services. In King episode in Los Angeles and the dreadful Fitzroy $60 a head is being spent on health services, outcome of that. It is something we do not need in but in other parts of Melbourne such as Doncaster Australia. We should not have police treating people and Templestowe 60 cents a head is being spent. of any race, colour or creed brutally. The House Will the Minister give an assurance to the House should take extremely serious note of that that the hospital is valued by the government and behaviour. It does not matter whether it happens in that its services can be expected to continue and be Robinvale, Rainbow, Rosebud or Rye. I trust the maintained at the same standard as in the past. Minister will take the matter seriously. I have given him copies of the affidavits and I am sure he will Offensive advertising take up the matter on behalf of all of us and not just the government. Ms MARPLE (Altona) - I direct to the attention of the Minister responsible for Women's Affairs a Box Hill Hospital postcard which has been placed in letterboxes in my electorate and the surrounding areas and which has Mr PERRIN (Bulleen) - I advise the Minister for sexual connotations. I am reluctant to give the Health that I have a copy of the Doncaster and roofing company any publicity, but I am sure the Templestowe News of 5 May which puts the Box Hill Minister finds the postcard as offensive as many Hospital in a bad light. This is an excellent hospital others do, including some men who have contacted and it is one that many people in Doncaster and me. The postcard says, "She's not much to look at Templestowe, including my family, have a lot to do down below but up top she looks a million dollars". with. It is strongly supported in the area. The article That type of advertising engenders a poor attitude in headed "Hospital jobs vanish following Budget society towards women. It encourages society to cuts" states: treat women as lesser beings. There is no doubt that the subject should be tackled at every opportunity, Near extinct public health services in even though those of us who complain are told we Doncaster-Templestowe have been dealt a blow with are lacking in humour. the Box Hill Hospital announcing a $3.3 million cut. I believe the card is an outdated depiction of women It is the third year in a row the regional hospital has and should be condemned. I am sure the Minister been subject to funding cuts. A $2.2 million cut was finds the card offensive, as do many others. I hope made in the 1992-93 Budget, while the 1991-92 Budget the women who receive the card will not use the saw a reduction of $1.3 million. services of the company. I ask the Minister what action she and the government are taking to change The hospital expects staff redundancies in the the attitudes of companies such as this, which emergency department - which treats 50 per cent of distribute advertising of this type directly into admissions - as well as the closure of at least 17 beds, letterboxes. including 2 in the intensive care unit, and privatisation of surgical outpatient clinics. Defence Housing Authority

The article then refers to comments by the Chief Mr FINN (Tullamarine) - I direct to the attention Executive Officer of Box Hill Hospital, Mr Alasdair of the Minister for Planning the recent approval of Macdonald: Werribee Planning Scheme Amendment No. L47 to rezone 32.5 hectares of former RAAF land at Point Regardless of the size of the Budget cut, we will be Cook Road, Laverton, which is now owned by the expected to treat the same number of patients as in the Defence Housing Authority. The Minister may wish past," he said. '1t will all depend on our efficiency and to advise the House what he has achieved in that whether we can reduce the length patients stay. We area. need to increase our productivity - there is room for improvement. Given that a coup has been achieved in Commonwealth-State relations on this issue, The article gives the impression that the facilities at perhaps some goodwill can be extended to resolving the hospital will not be available to my constituents the issue of the naval ammunition storage dump in Doncaster and Templestowe and others in the next to the Greenvale reservoir. I have been area. approached by a number of residents, particularly ADJOURNMENT

Wednesday, 19 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2281 from Roxburgh Park and Somerton, who are most advertising industry appears to be concerned about concerned that one day they will wake up and find the fact that Mr Bennett was formally a director and they are no longer there! The residents are concerned chairman of DDB Needham Melbourne Pty Ltd and that an ammunition storage dump should be located a long-term colleague of Mr Leeds, who was also a so close to a residential area and are concerned for director of that company. It is also important that their own safety and the safety of their families. the chairman of DDB Needham has admitted that his company is a part owner of Leeds Media and Honourable members may wonder why I am raising Communication Services. a matter on behalf of Roxburgh Park and Somerton, neither of which are in my electorate of Tullamarine. I call on the Premier to investigate the matter and, I asked the residents who approached me why they following that investigation, to ensure that Leeds had not approached their own local members, the Media, if it is to handle advertising contracts for the honourable members for Yan Yean and government, does not hand out any contracts to its Broadmeadows. They explained that they had had related company, DDB Needham. dealings with their local members in an attempt to get some action but that, as one resident of the area Sewer collapses said - I will not say whose constituent he was - '1t was hard to get any sense out of him let alone any Mr TANNER (Caulfield) - I direct the attention action". of the Minister for Natural Resources to a sewer collapse at the weekend at the intersection of Although it is not my normal practice to represent Shoobra Road and Riddell Parade, Elsternwick. the constituents of other honourable members, one Honourable members will be aware that that is a feels obliged to do so in this sort of situation. I have picturesque part of Melbourne. Honourable sympathy for their predicament. I ask the Minister members are also no doubt aware of the history of to extend the goodwill he has so successfully Tommy Bent and his association with the area and applied to the situation in Werribee to solving the the old Rosstown railway. I also inform the Minister problem of the naval ammunition storage dump at that on Wednesday there was a further sewer Greenvale. collapse in that area, which is of concern to local residents. The sewer was built around 1906 and is a Leeds Media and Communication Services tribute to the people who built it. However, due to the collapse sewerage has been discharged into the Mr THW AITES (Albert Park) - I direct the street and effluent is making its way into Elster attention of the Premier to the advertising industry's Creek. concern over the appointment and administration of the master agency media service for government Is the Minister aware of the latest sewer collapse? advertising. The scandal over the appointment of When will the sewer be fixed? What will be the cost Leeds Media and Communication Services has been to the community and to the Elsternwick area in widely reported and should be the subject of a full particular of the repair of that sewer? Can the and impartial investigation. Indeed, the Herald Sun residents of that area expect further problems? reported that it was a fledgling organisation that had received a lucrative contract worth some $25 million. Fire shelter at Panton Hill

A government press release of 10 May states that Mr HAERMEYER (yan Yean) - In the absence Leeds Media was one of the specialist media of the Minister for Education I ask the Minister for companies invited to tender on 23 November last Industry and Employment to direct to his attention year. A companies search revealed the company was the allocation of $225 000 last year to the Panton Hill not incorporated until about 30 November last year, Primary School for the construction of a fire shelter. later than the date on which the government has That project had already gone to tender when this said it was invited to tender. It could hardly be government came to office, but it was deferred. The described as an experienced company at that stage. Panton Hill area is an extreme fire-risk area. Indeed five firefighters were killed there during the Ash The principal of the company both then and now is Wednesday bushfires. Paul Leeds. The person in the government responsible for the appointment of Mr Leeds was The existing shelter in the Panton Hill area is totally Peter Bennett, who is the director of inadequate for its population. The original proposal communications in the office of the Premier. The was for the fire shelter to double as a classroom. At ADJOURNMENT

2282 ASSEMBLY Wednesday, 19 May 1993 the moment the school has some 130 children and is leads to a sense of excitement. A better warning considerably overcrowded. That overcrowding would be the face of a child with tears running would have been alleviated by the construction of down its cheeks. This is a serious issue, as serious as the fire shelter. children drowning in swimming pools. Will the Minister for Fair Trading address the matter? One of the parents of two children at the Panton Hill Primary School, Mr Georges Bernard, told the Leongatha rail service Diamond Valley News: Mr PANDAZOPOULOS (Dandenong) - I direct The only refuges for the whole community from Smiths the attention of the Minister for Public Transport to Gully down to Kangaroo Ground is the hall across the the government's decision to close the Leongatha road (from the school) and the emergency area at rail service, which serves part of the Cranbourne Kangaroo Ground ... Children from the kinder and area. I have had a number of discussions with and primary school would fill that hall easily ... I think it received telephone calls from regular users of the (State government) has a moral responsibility to ensure current service. Last Monday I received a telephone the children of Panton Hill are housed in a proper fire call from a resident of Lang Lang who was refuge building ... it is irresponsible to take such a risk concerned about the advertisement in the Age a few with children's lives. weekends ago in which the Public Transport Corporation sought tenders to remove rail track The school principal said that the area is categorised between Leongatha and Barry Beach. as a fire hazard area and that the government is putting at risk the lives of children and teachers at The residents of the area were hoping there would that school. This is an urgent safety issue, and I ask be a reprieve, as there has been for other rail the government to address the matter. services. Is the government initiating a process to remove the rail track between Cranbourne and Unsafe buckets Leongatha? I seek an assurance from the Minister that the track will not be removed, so that there will Mr A. F. PLOWMAN (Benambra) - I direct the be options for the future if any government decides attention of the Minister for Fair Trading to the safe to expand the rail service to those rural areas. use of buckets in the household, especially those used as nappy buckets. The issue relates to either The people who use the service regularly are drownings or near-drownings and came to my concerned that although freight will continue to run attention when I was looking at the statistics relating on the line there will be no passenger service to drownings or near-drownings in swimming between Cranbourne and Dandenong. The Shire of pools. Drownings were found to be the single Cranbourne is supportive of improved public biggest cause of accidental death among children transport in the area. under the age of four years. The statistics show that in Victoria in 1988-89, of the 27 reported cases of The shire preSident, Peter Giles, said he was drowning or near-drowning, 2 involved toddlers concerned about the closure of the line from under the age of 2 who were nearly drowned in Cranbourne to Dandenong. An article in the liquid in buckets but were resuscitated. Cranbourne Independent of 5 May records him as saying: For the years 1985-88, of the 21 cases of children under 3 years of age who drowned, 2 died as a result Our original understanding was that the passenger of liquid in buckets. Many drownings could be service would remain open on that stretch. avoided. Most buckets used in households have straight sides. It is easy to see that if a bucket has a It's hardly a justifiable cut when the two services into base smaller than the top a toddler leaning over the the city are virtually standing room only. side would be over the fulcrum, so the bucket would tip over. There was also concern that commuters woUld change their travelling habits if they did not have a I direct to the attention of the Minister that not only rail service for two years. I ask the Minister what is the shape of the bucket important, but buckets do commitment he can provide to the Cranbourne and not have warnings that are useful in aVOiding child Dandenong areas and will he explain why there is a drownings. They often bear the usual skull and freight service but no passenger service between cross-bones sign of danger, but to most children that Cranbourne and Dandenong? ADJOURNMENT

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Responses service was slightly under the level of service achieved by other regional services. Over the next Mrs WADE (Attorney-General) - The year I will be looking at all the organisations that honourable member for Geelong North referred to receive funding to see how they operate and I will funding of the Financial Counselling and Consumer be endeavouring to ensure that the various criteria I Information Service at Geelong. He is correct in mentioned are taken into consideration in a more saying that the funding for the service decreased by specific way over the next year. The funding for the 44 per cent from $82 598 last year to $46 548 this following year will be reassessed. year. Offers have been sent to community organisations that participate in the community The other matter raised with me in my capacity as support program run by the Office of Fair Trading. Minister for Fair Trading was the issue of nappy buckets. This matter has been raised with me by the These cuts are another unfortunate effect of the honourable member for Benambra on a number of budgetary position the government has had to face occasions since he became aware of the problem a as a result of the profligate attitude of the previous couple of months ago. Both he and I have government. The money that is not now available undertaken some research into the incidence of for the Financial Counselling and Consumer babies drowning in nappy buckets, and it appears Information Service at Geelong was squandered by that between 1985 and 1990 two babies drowned in the former government over its 10 years in office. nappy buckets and there were two incidences where The money was wasted on the Victorian Economic children were hospitalised as a result of falling into Development Corporation, the Victorian Investment nappy buckets. It is often said that one death in a Corporation Lld, Tricontinental Corporation ltd and way that could be prevented is one death too many. a range of other programs across all departments, including $250 million spent on consultancy fees This is an important issue and it appears to be over the life of the Labor administration. related to the fact that the buckets used as nappy Unfortunately organisations that provide services to buckets have straight sides. If a child falls into such a the community are suffering now as a result of the bucket it is difficult for the child to get out again. If former government's profligate behaviour. the bucket had sloping sides and a child fell in, the bucket would simply fall over. The community support program has been cut back, not quite as much as the Schilling report I have asked the Office of Fair Trading to raise this recommended, which was 35 per cent, but the cuts matter with the Standards Association of Australia have not been uniform across all agencies. Funding to determine whether a standard might be produced in the metropolitan area has been reduced in either for buckets generally or for nappy buckets in agencies where clients will have access to the Office particular so that these situations can be avoided in of Fair Trading. In remote country areas the funding the future. has virtually remained as it was last year. Some agencies have lost funding altogether and others, The honourable member for Altona directed to my such as the service mentioned by the honourable attention a number of complaints she has received member, have been severely cut back. from people in her electorate about an extremely tasteless postcard that is being put in letterboxes by The basis for the decision on that service involved a a roofing company. The postcard compares a roof on range of issues. The decision was recommended a house with a cartoon character of a woman both by the Schilling report and by the Office of Fair standing in front of the house. It is obviously Trading. I was advised that the level of funding is offensive to both women and men and totally more in line with the needs-based funding model lacking in humour. I have also had calls to my than was the case last year. It puts the service on a electoral office about the postcard and a number of similar level to other services that are on a needs people have expressed extreme distaste for that sort basis. I am also advised that the service will remain of advertiSing. viable at this level and that the 0.5 position that was funded before was basically a policy pOSition. I emphasise that the calls I have received have come from both men and women. Those people have Another matter taken into account was the services asked me to do something about the postcard in my provided by organisations over the past year - capacity as Minister responsible for Women's those organisations that provided the best level of Affairs, but I have to say that my powers in that service got a better level of funding. That particular ADJOURNMENT

2284 ASSEMBLY Wednesday, 19 May 1993 regard are somewhat limited; in fact, they are I give the honourable member an assurance that the possibly better described as non-existent. line will be electrified before the next State election. We will not promise to do it, we will do it -with In view of the tacky nature of the card and the calls I the help of the Premier's friends in Canberra! Well received, a couple of weeks ago I wrote to the before the next election the honourable member for company involved suggesting that its advertising Dandenong will have the pleasure of seeing the was counterproductive and more likely to result in Premier and I perform the opening ceremony. the company going out of business rather than generating more business. I have not received a The coalition government does not believe in response to that letter, but I will let the honourable making hollow promises and holding out false hope member for Altona know if I receive any further to the people of Cranboume as the Labor Party did informa tion. during four consecutive election campaigns. The people of Cranboume were sold down the drain by Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - the Labor government. They know that, which is The honourable member for Dandenong directed to why they are looking forward with great pleasure to my attention the railway line between Leongatha the electrification of the service during the coalition and Barry Beach, which the Labor government government's first term in office. closed down in the latter part of its 10 years in office. There is little sense in allowing the railway tracks to One of my colleagues directed to my attention the rust and the sleepers to rot into the ground. For that statements made about the Labor Party's transport reason the government has decided to derive some policy by the honourable member for Pascoe Vale. benefit from the value of what is in effect scrap When I asked for the removal of the then shadow metal. I give the honourable member a guarantee Minister for Public Transport two weeks ago I that we will not do what his Leader did during his expected to at least see him in the House. But I am time as Minister for Transport in selling $500 000 advised that he has fled the country. The honourable worth of MetTicket equipment for scrap for $1500! member for Thomastown was discredited long The government will get a good price for the tracks. before he assumed the role of shadow Minister, but he totally discredited himself in the short time he I have received a large number of inquiries from was the opposition spokesman by raiSing allegations around the world seeking to purchase the railway that had no substance. He was shown up as a tracks. The government has called for tenders for the shadow Minister who constantly got things wrong, sale of the tracks, along with a number of other and the coalition is certainly delighted that he is disused railway tracks throughout the State which gone. in most cases have been lying dormant for many years. After having experienced that success, I did not think that only a week and a half later the man who The government has no plans to pull up the railway replaced him would have done so much damage to tracks on the Dandenong-Leongatha line. Although his party. I recall a young bloke in my street back the service is not yet closed it will be replaced in a home with whom I was kicking a football, along few weeks by modem, airconditioned coaches. We with another young bloke. One of the young fellows have no immediate plans to pull up the tracks. The kicked the football over a fence onto a property near government also has no plans to sell the railway where we were playing. The young kid who was easement. I assure the House that the surrounding supposed to mark the ball said to his friend, ''You're land will remain in the ownership of the Crown for a real loser, Basil" - Basil being a nickname. How the benefit of future generations. appropriate that is for the honourable member for Pascoe Vale - Basil, you're a real loser! The honourable member also raised the railway service between Dandenong and Cranboume, which Honourable members interjecting. the Labor government promised to electrify during four consecutive election campaigns over 10 years. The SPEAKER - Order! The Minister is out of That is another example of the Labor government's order. failure to honour its so-called cast iron promises. By contrast in its seven months in office the coalition Mr BROWN - The honourable member for government has proved that it honours its Pascoe Vale has proposed a new policy that is commitments. outlined in the Labor Star. I quote from the ADJOURNMENT

Wednesday, 19 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2285 honourable member's comments as reported in the Australia said so, and, tragically, we are all suffering CAbor Star: from the disease from Canberra.

I believe there is a real need for, if you like, left wing The Royal Automobile Club of Victoria will be "think tanks" to produce alternative ideas and social interested in the Labor Party's new policy, and it visions. The policy committees of the Labor Party itself will learn about it. The RACV wants its more than should be one such alternative. 1 million members to know the latest left-wing policies to help motorists in Melbourne! I think the I am not making this up. That is a direct quote from Melbourne City Council, trade associations and the honourable member for Pascoe Vale. My operators of car parks in the city will be interested to colleague quoted another extract from the so-called learn of the Labor Party's new policy in this time of policy document about motor traffic in the central recession. When the government contacts these business district. I shall quote the honourable groups it will be interested to hear their reactions to member word for word, again as reported in the what is the clear anti-CBD policy of the ALP. It is an CAbor Star: anti-Melbourne policy and a kick in the guts for every motorist. We need to examine, as other cities have done, a registration fee or licence fee for the right to travel into The honourable member proposes a licence fee to the inner city area. Such a fee would discourage drive into the city - what an outrageous policy! The driver-only cars travelling into the city- fallen star puts into the CAbor Star a policy that stinks - he did it and he will have to suffer the how right he is - odium of putting that policy forward!

during peak periods and provide a fund to support Several of my colleagues have conducted a survey of better public transport alternatives. the travelling habits of opposition members. It appears that 94 per cent, including the honourable This is the opposition's policy and the government member for Pascoe Vale who proposed this lunatic wants Victorians to know it. It is an article in the policy, use their private motor vehicles as the Labor Party's official publication, the CAbor Star, but primary means of conveyance. They do not use unfortunately not all Victorians are avid readers of public transport, yet they have the gall to say that if that rag. We shall make sure hundreds of thousands ever their party was inflicted as a government upon of Victorians become aware of that policy. Victorians again, people will have to pay to bring their cars into the city. The public will love that I would have thought the Labor Party would have policy! more brains than to put forward left-wing lunatic policies. At the present time many businesses are You were there for 10 years and you are now casting bleeding and pleading to have more vehicular traffic around for a new left-wing policy of indescribable flowing into the city, but the Labor Party wants to lunacy-- ban cars from the central business district! Business people want more people coming into the city and Mr Thomson interjected. more people using their motor vehicles as well as using public transport. Mr BROWN - You say we do not need more people in the CBD - try to find one person in Honourable members interjecting. Swanston Street! It is virtually deserted because of your policies, not ours. The SPEAKER - Order! The barrage of interjections from my left is far too high and I ask The SPEAKER - Order! The Chair has been very the House to come to order. tolerant of the Minister for Public Transport. I ask him to address the Chair. Mr BROWN - The business interests in the central business district will be delighted with this Mr BROWN - Now Melbourne has two suggestion to reduce further their already morgues - one known as Swanston Street, the dead recession-ravaged businesses! heart of Melbourne as a result of the Labor government policies. It cost Victorians $10 million, I admit it is the recession we had to have because the yet the honourable member for Pascoe Vale says, honourable member's mate, the Prime Minister of 'What are you doing about traffic congestion?" The ADJOURNMENT

2286 ASSEMBLY Wednesday, 19 May 1993 city is crying out for life and for more business. It is of the transport portfolio - I plead with the Leader crying out for more people to come into the heart of of the Opposition to pick someone who is rational the city, into what was once a heart that beat but and balanced, and not a loser. now is a heart that must be resuscitated, as it surely will be by this government. Mrs TEHAN (Minister for Health) - The honourable member for Bulleen raised with me an A balanced policy, not a left-wing ideology, is article in his local newspaper about funding cuts needed for transport, as even the unions now Box Hill Hospital has suffered over the past two understand. If most people are like the present years and community concern about that. members of the opposition and use their private Mr Alasdair Macdonald, the Chief Executive Officer motor vehicles, of course they must be catered for. of Box Hill Hospital, was quoted in the article as The majority of honourable members opposite use indicating that, despite budget savings imposed by their motor cars as their primary means of the previous government in years gone by and a conveyance. jOint budget saving in the current year imposed first by the budget brought down by the previous The point is this, and it is one Victorians will come government and again by the new government in to understand clearly: the primary means of the October statement, Box Hill Hospital has been transport of 85 per cent of Melburnians is their able to treat as many patients as it has in the past. private motor car; 15 per cent of Melburnians use The honourable member for Bulleen should take public transport regularly. The honourable member that lesson back to his constituents. for Springvale nods his head because he knows that is true. There is an opportunity for continuing quality services and even for expanding services if the The government has to have a policy for roads, for efficiencies and savings that are still in the system the central business district and for the parking of and that have been pointed out in recent days by the vehicles to cater for the 85 per cent of Victorians and Victorian Commission of Audit are found. From Melburnians who use private cars. It also has to 1 July the government is attempting to move -and have a policy for the other 15 per cent of people who will move - the focus in hospital funding so that choose to use public transport or who have no other there are incentives for hospitals to address those choice than to use public transport. Policies have to efficiencies and therefore attract more work, more be financed rationally and sensibly. The way to do money and more positiOns. This will enable that is to run the system economically and not hospitals to continue to treat patients despite the without consideration of the cost. The government is difficult economic climate in which the State finds running transport. Reforms in place and more itself. reforms to come will save $245 million a year. Some of those savings will go to expanding, upgrading It is late, so I simply repeat briefly that hospitals are and modernising the service. being asked to meet two requirements: there is the need to address the overall financial situation of It took seven months to get rid of the first Labor Victoria and to work towards ensuring that Victoria Party spokesman on transport. Regretfully, I now is put back on a sound financial footing through the have to call on the Leader of the Opposition to government's October and April statements; at the remove the second spokesman. This guy is a loser. same time hospitals must treat patients at the level He has done the opposition much harm in floating of quality and standards needed. this policy of lunacy and defending it as something needed by the Labor Party - by left-wing, It must change its emphasis in the way it provides think-tank ideology. When the opposition takes its its services. It is an efficient hospital, as the policies to representative organisations, great honourable member said. The hospital should damage will be done and people will desert the position itself so that it continues to treat patients in Labor Party in droves. the area it has served over many years. Despite the efficiencies that must be made, the hospital will be When the Labor Party gets rid of this discredited better managed and will be more flexible, with an spokesman on transport it will have difficulty emphasis on patient care rather than systems and picking someone else because of the lack of talent on unions, as was the case in past. its backbench. When the Labor Party picks spokesman No. 3 next week - preferably tomorrow Mr MACLELLAN (Minister for Planning) - The for the sake of Victoria, considering the importance honourable member for Tullamarine raised the ADJOURNMENT

Wednesday, 19 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2287 inappropriateness of the Commonwealth defence recession, and ask them to sharpen their pencils forces - namely, the Navy - continuing to store again. large quantities of ammunition adjacent to the Greenvale reservoir, an area that is fast becoming Following further work on the tenders by the suburban'. The honourable member is correct in tenderers, the same company won again. It is saying that the Commonwealth and State extremely unusual for any group that has been governments have been cooperating closely on through a tender process and has won fairly and planning matters with some success. I will take up squarely to be again put through a test of that sort the matter with the Commonwealth, and I simply to protect the process itself. However, that encourage all honourable members to take up this occurred in this case. ma tter up with Commonwealth members of Parliament and Federal Ministers. There is no $3O-million contract, simply the placement of work for which there is a commission. The storage facility should be relocated in a more The success or otherwise of the bidding process is suitable place. I know it is difficult to find locations determined by the size of the commission the client, for such storages but unless a decision is made to in this case the government, pays for the placement relocate the depot we can only await a tragedy. I of that work. believe we have all learnt the lesson from Coode Island and we do not want a repetition of that The Victorian Government Solicitor put together a difficulty or that sort of threat in any suburb of contract with all the t's crossed and the i's dotted, Melbourne. which is why there was a delay in awarding the contract. It had nothing to do with the tender The honourable member is to be congratulated for process; it was simply ensuring that the legalities bringing the matter to the attention of the House. I were right. Unfortunately the former government join him in urging the Commonwealth to cooperate signed a contract with the newspapers just before with the State to search for a more remote location the last State election which locked the newspaper where ammunition storage will be less threatening side of the media in until 30 June this year. The so that we can ensure that our suburbs are safe and former government was also negligent in not secure. I do not suggest that the Navy has been gaining the benefit that comes when a client exceeds negligent in the way it has managed its storage the level of discount as they spend more money. facility, but the changing land use suggests there should be a change in the use of the land by the The other failing of the former government was that Navy. I look forward to working with the it abandoned the tender process altogether nine Commonwealth to relocate the storage. months before the election and a number of companids were handling that government The honourable member commented on the success advertising. we have had in negotiating new planning arrangements in Werribee with the Defence Housing At the end of the day the Victorian community Authority. If the honourable member would like to could literally be tens of millions of dollars better off ask me a question later today about this matter, I over a period as a result of this process. The contract will be only too happy to give him the details. the government has secured in Victoria through the good work of Mr Bennett, because of his knowledge Mr KENNETI (Premier) - The honourable of the industry, is substantially better than the member for Albert Park raised a matter that the contract that was secured by the New South Wales temporary Leader of the Opposition has raised a government. couple of times. As the Leader's lackey he is continuing the process. The contract was put out, I The honourable member, in his lust to claim that believe the honourable member said, late last year. It everything the government does has something went through the tender process. The winning wrong with it, has in this instance drawn a long company won the contract fair and square. I was bow. The process was carried out twice because of aware that one of the advertising companies was the potential for the situation that has eventuated: making some public comment and I said that, given that some organisations, having missed out on the that there was this association, I believed it to be contract, would bleat. That does not mean that important that we ensured it had been properly people in the industry who know people employed tendered. I asked that we go to the three short-listed in the service of the government should be denied tenderers, on the basis that we are in a time of ADJOURNMENT

2288 ASSEMBLY Wednesday, 19 May 1993 an opportunity of participating in fair and proper Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and competition. That has happened in this case. Employment) - The honourable member for Morwell raised a matter of considerable concern I thank Mr Bennett for the work he has done in involving an attack on a Koori person in his district. introducing professionalism into the way the He is concerned about the allegations that have been government of Victoria deals with promotion, made and has passed over documentation to the advertising and the media, because at the end of the Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs who day we will all be substantially better off. shares those concerns. The Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs has said that he will refer the Mr COLEMAN (Minister for Natural matter to the Minister for Police and Emergency Resources) -A long time ago the honourable Services so that the Chief Commissioner of Police member for Caulfield raised an issue concerning a can properly investigate the allegations and take sewage spill in Elsternwick. There has been a further whatever appropriate action is necessary. sewer collapse in Elsternwick. A 9-inch concrete reticulation main, not a trunk sewer, collapsed. As The honourable member for Yan Yean raised for the the honourable member said, the main was built in attention of the Minister for Education a fire shelter 1906 in an area named in the Sewer Safe program. at the Panton Hill Primary School. I understand that a tender worth $225 000 will be let to build a fire An honourable member interjected. shelter which will double as a classroom. I will ensure that the matter is drawn to the attention of Mr COLEMAN - The honourable member the Minister for Education to see what can be actually implicated Tommy Bent. I do not know achieved. whether it was included in a project Tommy Bent built. The former Labor government had no process Motion agreed to. in place for the maintenance of the system. The government has put in place the Sewer Safe House adjourned 3.56 a.m. (Thursday). program, which has a $140 million allocation over the next 10 years, $40 million of which will be spent in the current financial year.

A sewer bypass is being built. A 33-metre section of the sewer will be reconstructed and completed by 28 May at a cost of between $30 000 and $35 000. DISTINGUISHED VISITORS

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Thursday, 20 May 1993 particular case will be followed even if they are not those of the lowest cost.

3. That although premiums are collected simultaneously with car registration the interests The SPEAKER (Hon. J. E. Delzoppo) took the chair of train, tram and bus victims will continue to be at 10.5 a.m. and read the prayer. covered by the new insurers. 4. That immediate payment to accident victims of DISTINGUISHED VISITORS medical and rehabilitation costs will be guaranteed irrespective of fault or blame on the part of the The SPEAKER - Order! It is my pleasure and victim. privilege to welcome to the House today a number of members of a delegation from the Yunnan Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that your Province, People's Republic of China Commission of honourable House will protect all transport accident Education. The delegation is accompanied by Or victims and their families by introducing the Doug White, the Dean of the School of Education at abovementioned safeguards. La Trobe University. I apologise for my appalling pronunciation but I welcome Mr Hai Song, And your petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever pray. Commissioner, Educational Department of Yunnan Province; Mr Li Yuan, Division Chief, Foreign By Mr Kennan (1408 signatures) and Mrs Garbutt Affairs, Yunnan Education Commission; Mr Lian (1385 signatures) Liquan, President, Kunming Medical College; Mr Ziao Huichong, President, Yunnan Institute of Emergency teacher employment Traditional Chinese Medicine; Mr Yang Jiashou, President, Kunyung Teachers College and Mr Chen To the Honourable the Speaker and members of the Fuqiang, Deputy Director, Yunnan University Legislative Assembly in Parliament assembled: Administrative Affairs Committee. You are very welcome. The humble petition of the undersigned citizens of the State of Victoria sheweth: Honourable Members - Hear, hear! Recent cuts to the staffing entitlement and the PETITIONS reduction in the number of short-term replacement teachers have left students without appropriate The Clerk - I have received the following education. petitions for presentation to Parliament: Your petitioners therefore pray that the staffing Protection for transport accident victims entitlement be returned to the level of 1992 and that the Directorate of School Education reinstate the To the Honourable the Speaker and members of the employment of emergency teachers as in 1992. Legislative Assembly in Parliament assembled: And your petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever pray. The humble petition of the undersigned citizens of Victoria, Australia respectfully showeth: By Mr Dean (233 signatures)

That we the undersigned, having great concern that State deficit levy interests of accident victims and their families may be prejudiced by sale of the Transport Accident To the Honourable the Speaker and members of the Commission to private enterprise, call upon the Legislative Assembly in Parliament assembled: government to introduce immediate legislation to ensure: The humble petition of the undersigned citizens of the State of Victoria wish to strongly voice objection to the 1. That accident victims within the Transport Accident $100 levy imposed on all rateable properties. Commission system will be transferred to coverage by the new system without any loss or diminution Your petitioners therefore pray that the House will take of care or privilege. all necessary steps to ensure that this decision to 2. That the purchaser companies will pledge that the impose this horrendous tax on the citizens of Victoria is options for treatment by the medical advisers in a withdrawn. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMI'ITEE

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And your petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever pray. detrimental to the health of residents of Flemington, Travancore, West Brunswick, Ascot Vale, Essendon, By Mr Pandazopoulos (432 signatures) Pascoe Vale, Kensington, Footscray, South Melbourne, Middle Park, Albert Park, St Kilda, West Parkville and Doveton Cluster Welfare Service West Melbourne because of the increases in traffic, pollution, road accidents, noise and loss of amenity. To the Honourable the Speaker and members of the Legislative Assembly in Parliament assembled: We therefore demand that a full range of transportation, social and environment alternatives be The humble petition of the Doveton Cluster sheweth fully investigated until a non-detrimental and equitable that the services of the Doveton Cluster welfare worker solution is found. The $200 million expenditure can be are much needed in these difficult economic times. better used to meet pressing community needs.

Your petitioners therefore pray that the Doveton And your petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever pray. Cluster Welfare Service be maintained. By Mr Davis (171 signatures) And your petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever pray. To the Honourable the Speaker and members of the By Mr Pandazopoulos (79 signatures) Legislative Assembly in Parliament assembled:

Western bypass The humble petition of the undersigned citizens of the State of Victoria sheweth that the Western bypass will To the Honourable the Speaker and members of the be extremely detrimental to the health of the residents Legislative Assembly in Parliament assembled: of Flemington and North Melbourne because of the increase in traffic, noise and air pollution. We therefore The humble petition of the undersigned citizens of the demand that a non-detrimental solution environmental State of Victoria showeth: impact study of the effects of the Western bypass particularly in Flemington, North Melbourne and That the proposed Western bypass freeway through Moonee Ponds Creek valley communities be carried Flemington/Kensington and closure 'of the Upfield out. railway will be extr~mely detrimental to the wellbeing of residents of Flemington, Travancore, Brunswick, And your petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever pray. Coburg, Ascot Vale, Essendon, Pascoe Vale, Kensington, Footscray, South Melbourne, Middle Park, By Mr Davis (223 signatures) Albert Park, St Kilda, West Parkville and West Melbourne because of expected increases in traffic, Laid on table. road accidents, pollution, noise, and related illnesses and loss of health, residential amenity, local access and ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT property values. COMMITTEE

We therefore demand that a full range of Victorian building and construction transportation, social and environment alternatives be industry fully investigated until a non-detrimental and equitable solution is found. The $200 million expenditure can be Mr LEIGHTON (Preston) presented first report of better used to meet pressing community needs. Economic Development Committee on inquiry into the Victorian building and construction And your petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever pray. industry, together with appendices and minutes of evidence. By Mr Davis (708 signatures) Laid on table. To the Honourable the Speaker and members of the Legislative Assembly in Parliament assembled: Ordered that report and appendices be printed.

The humble petition of the undersigned citizens of the State of Victoria sheweth that the proposed Western bypass freeway through Flemington will be extremely AUDITOR-GENERAL'S REPORTS

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AUDITOR-GENERAL'S REPORTS Second reading

Open-cut production in Latrobe Valley Debate resumed from 14 May; motion of Mr I. W. SMITH (Minister for Finance). The SPEAKER presented special report No. 24 on open-cut production in the Latrobe Valley The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr J. F. McGrath) - pursuant to the Audit Act 1958. Order! Before calling the honourable member for Sunshine, I inform the House that I am of the Laid on table. opinion that the second reading of this Bill requires to be passed by an absolute majority. Ordered to be printed. Mr BAKER (Sunshine) - This is one of the few Loy Yang B Act compliance occasions when I don't relish having a guernsey in a debate. The SPEAKER presented Auditor-General's report on compliance with section 35 of the Loy Yang B An honourable member interjected. Act 1992. Mr BAKER - I shall go on at length if you give Laid on table. me a hard time.

REPORT OF COUNCIL OF The DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! The MAGISTRATES honourable member should not threaten other members in the Chamber. Mrs WADE (Attorney-General) presented, by command of His Excellency the Governor, report Mr BAKER - It was more of a delicate promise, of Council of Magistrates for 1991-92. Sir. Suddenly I find I am warming to the task!

Laid on table. The opposition does not oppose the Bill, as it essentially provides for compliance with PAPERS Commonwealth legislation in this area - namely, the Superannuation Guarantee (Administration) Act Laid on table by Clerk: 1992. I sound a note of caution to the Minister for Finance that taking up these compliance provisiOns Annual reporting Act 1983 - means the Minister and the government will be held to their commitment to superannuation compliance Notification by the Minister for Finance of issues both in this debate and in respect of future extensions of time granted to Ministers under superannuation legislation that comes before section 8 in relation to 1991-92 Parliament. Notification by the Minister for Finance of directions or exemptions from provisions or from The Minister has laboured mightily and brought regulations granted to publiC bodies and details of forward a mouse in the form of this Bill. I observe extensions of time granted under section 15 in with a wry sense of amusement that, for all the relation to 1991-92 hairy-chested pronouncements, noise and beating of the big stick that we saw last month about what Chiropractors and Osteopaths Registration Board - would happen to superannuation schemes, the Report for the year 1991 result is proposed legislation which, on the Minister's own say-so, will add $3 million to the tab. Members of Parliament (Register of Interests) Act It seems that he has put aside all other options he 1978 - Summary of Variations notified between 2 canvassed and proposed to canvass in his exercise of March and 18 May 1993 -Ordered to be printed. vaudeville with members of both Houses meeting in SUPERANNUATION (COMPLIANCE) this Chamber subject to something called "further BILL negotiations". I suggest that if ever there was a model for how not to handle complex and sensitive negotiations and financial matters this is it. Message read recommending further appropriation. SUPERANNUATION (COMPLIANCE) BILL

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The Bill deals with the direct interests of some further point that this Bill is before Parliament only 400 ()()() members of superannuation funds and their as a consequence of those negotiations because, as I dependants. It has been calculated that the ripple understand it, it was only then that it became effect takes the interest group or the footprint that is apparent to the government that there was a need affected by State superannuation schemes up to for compliance procedures to be brought before some 1.5 million members of the Victorian Parliament. Therefore, I once again crave your community who have a direct or indirect interest in indulgence, Sir, to allow me to build the what happens to superannuation entitlements. chronological chain of events that led to the Therefore, you do not just charge out and make production of this Bill. pronouncements that dramatic changes will be made. Within that framework the opposition understands the significant cost burden superannuation schemes The Minister must be severely rebuked, at least impose on public finances. However, the increasing admonished, for the way he has gone about what burden is not new. The government has led the now constitutes a bungle of major and embarrassing community to believe that the financial problems proportions. There was no need for those people created by State superannuation schemes have all with an interest, direct and indirect, to have been happened over the past 10 years, but that is not the frightened in the way they have been frightened and case. The problems have built up over many years. the way they are still frightened. We have this Bill, but the Minister has made no attempt to make clear One reason why the issue has come to public his intentions for the future. All we have had are attention is that various reports have lumped some public statements and some indications to superannuation and other unfunded liabilities in Parliament, albeit rather rudely interrupted, about with State debt. The government, in its own political what the Minister saw were the options. There have interests, has decided that modem accounting been some public indications since then that we will practice requires that unfunded liabilities be shown have to wait and see. That is really not good enough. as part of the public accounts. That was not the case in the past. The DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! I remind the honourable member that the Bill does not provide Another reason is that when credit agencies assess the opportunity to debate all the relevant issues credit ratings - and Victoria has had only one since relating to superannuation. It is a narrow Bill 1989 - they require unfunded liabilities to be dealing with compliance, and at this stage I ask him shown. The full projections of unfunded to bear that in mind as he proceeds with his superannuation scheme liabilities were collated for contribution to the debate. the first time in the 1980s, when the Labor government was in office. Mr BAKER - Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I am aware of that, but I also ask you to bear in mind The first State superannuation fund, which that this is the first opportunity that I, as lead commenced in 1925, provided 50 per cent of salary opposition speaker in this House on these matters, as a pension at the retirement age of 65 years have had a formal opportunity to canvass these without indexation. In the 1950s it was amended to issues because the previous opportunity was denied provide 66.6 per cent of salary as a pension, which during the abortive attempt to have some form of was also not indexed. bastardised joint sitting of Parliament. I crave some modest indulgence on your part, Sir, with that in In 1966 the Bolte government indexed pensions mind. against the consumer price index. If the Minister for Finance were to proceed with his favourite option The DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! The Chair for the future of superannuation schemes, which will be moderate in its view, but I remind the proposed to remove indexation, he would be honourable member that if some of the concerns he breaching an undertaking given by Sir Henry Bolte, expresses are to bear fruit, the Minister will be a man for whom he had strong personal regard - bringing in another Bill before Parliament, at which and I understand it was reciprocated. If the Minister time the honourable member will be able to fully is proposing to remove indexation from pensions at debate the contents of that Bill. some future point, which would be a convenient quick-grab attempt at picking up $5 billion, apart Mr BAKER - Mr Deputy Speaker, I accept your from the difficulties it would cause in compliance wisdom, as always, but nevertheless I make the with the Federal scheme, he would seriously affect SUPERANNUATION (COMPLIANCE) BILL

Thursday. 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2293 the financial wellbeing of many people in the The Minister for Finance has also discovered that community and would welsh on the undertaking any attempt to interfere with the accrued rights of given by Sir Henry Bolte. superannuants can, given the recent decision of the High Court in the Shell case, constitute grounds for Although inflation has not been high in recent times, giving notification of a dispute to the Australian a widow or widower who first received an indexed Industrial Relations Commission. I commend the pension of $300 a week 17 years ago would now Australian Services Union for the zeal with which it receive $900 a week. If indexation had not applied has acted on behalf of not only some 20 000 of its the pension would still be $300 a week, which is a members in Victoria but also many anxious significant difference. superannuants who rang the union in giving notification of a dispute to the AIRC. The The Minister had the idea that if he took indexation commission said it would be more than interested if away everything in the garden would be rosy. It the Minister pursued the action he had would certainly help the financial position of the foreshadowed. State, but it would not assist the many widows, widowers and pensioners who had an expectation as In 1975 the schemes provided 66.67 per cent of part of their contracts of employment or the superannuation pensions for those aged 60. The contracts of their former spouses, that they would be costs of the schemes started to take off in the 1970s cared for in their old age. and 1980s because of the significant growth in the Victorian Public Service throughout both those The government's proposal is a horrifying prospect decades. In 1984 some adjustments were made to the for many people. I am sure many government method of financing indexation, as well as the backbench members have been feeling the heat of introduction of lump sum options. the superannuation issue in their electorate offices. Many members of the community, not only those In 1988 the previous government downgraded the who support the Labor Party, have expressed future benefits for new entrants to the schemes by concern about the government's proposals. We are reducing the employer contribution from 21 per cent talking about everyone's Nanna or Auntie Grace! If to 10 per cent of annual salary. Emerging evidence this security rug is pulled from under them, it will from top-class sources shows that that option will cause heartache not only to them but also to their produce a turnaround in the circumstances of the families. There is enormous confusion about schemes earlier than expected - especially as superannuation entitlements in the community. regards the lump sum option.

When the Minister commenced on this bumpy road I know from my experience both in carrying out he did not recognise that Federal regulations computations for accident compensation schemes provide protection for superannuants in schemes, and as a former head of the insurance policy branch whether they be Federal, State, public or private. of the Treasury before I entered Parliament that the The Federal Insurance Commissioner can wield insurance industry prefers to make insurance certain powers to protect the rights of people who scheme payouts of any kind in lump sums rather are members of superannuation schemes. If there is than in pensions, weekly payments or income any indication that a government, an insurer or an maintenance for one very good reason - not employer wants retrospectively to vary the accrued because of any sense of goodness in its black heart rights of superannuants, the Federal Insurance but because it is cheaper. That is especially so in a Commissioner can wield a big stick. society where people are tending to live longer than they did a generation ago. Figures show that on I understand the commissioner was showing close average Victorians tend to live three months longer interest in the proposals put publicly by the Minister than other Australians, perhaps because of what was for Finance on the Victorian State superannuation the State's excellent health system. schemes. The commissioner has the power to vary the tax rate from the beneficial level to the prevailing The Bill contains a number of amendments to eight company tax level, which would have a serious superannuation schemes. The precise nature of the effect on the financial capacity of many schemes. It amendments vary according to the peculiarities of would have a dramatic effect on the financial each scheme and whether they are defined benefits viability of superannuation schemes in Victoria. schemes, accumulated benefits schemes, or a combination of both. Before the debate commenced I had the opportunity to speak to the Minister and to SUPERANNUATION (COMPLIANCE) BILL

2294 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 one of his advisers, and I thank the Minister for The comparisons that are invariably made are based extending me that courtesy. I understand that on outdated notions of lifetime Public Service during the Committee stage the government will employment. As the compulsory contribution rate propose two amendments which the opposition will rises to 9 per cent, the relative nature of the public support. The amendments are similar to those I had sector schemes will be negligible, and only those intended to move. public servants of many years service will be in receipt of benefits more advantageous than the The defined benefits schemes include the State standard. superannuation scheme, which is the largest of the 10 State superannuation schemes and which The old notions about Public Service employment accounts for some 73 per cent of unfunded and the benefits attached to it have changed a great superannuation liabilities. It also includes the deal. I do not make any criticism of that, because the emergency services superannuation scheme, the Public Service must reflect the changing nature of Parliamentarians scheme, amendments to which the world. Nevertheless, the old notion was that, most honourable members will devote especially firstly, a person who took a Public Service job keen interest, the State employees retirement scheme accepted a lower level of salary in return for and the transport superannuation scheme. The guaranteed security of tenure, which has been hospitals superannuation scheme is in the abolished. Security of tenure will not be accumulated benefits and defined benefits category; reintroduced, because changes such as those are all and the State casual employees scheme is in the one way. accumulated benefits category. Secondly, most people in those days received a Because the Bill does not require the making of superannuation scheme entitlement. I well specific contributions it anticipates levels of remember my grandfather who raised me, and who payments based on actuarial assessments of what was a diesel maintenance fitter in the ways and funds would have returned on notional works section of the then Victorian Railways, came contributions at levels required by Federal home one day and was very pleased because he had legislation. Superannuants then receive the higher of been allowed to join the railways superannuation the two amounts - that is, either the benefits that scheme. At that stage he had about 6 or 7 years to the schemes would have delivered or the amounts work before his retirement. It was certainly an actuarially calculated as the minimum entitlements occasion for many beers at home that night because under Commonwealth legislation. my grandfather had finally made it to the white-collar class! A separate provision is required to deal with judges superannuation. They do not fall within the He was a master fitter, trained in Irish shipyards as a definition of a prescribed scheme because their boy at a level, he claimed, far superior to the basic pensions are paid under the Constitution Act and, fitting standards in Australia. He was not allowed therefore, no fund exists as such. I point out to the into the superannuation scheme because he worked Minister that opportunities probably exist for in the sheds and wore blue overalls. The people in including the judges in other schemes. That would the office wore white collars and they were allowed seem appropriate, and it is a matter he may consider to belong to the scheme. It was mainly through the during the recess. efforts of the trade union movement that the opportunities were provided for workers to be It is estimated that after about six or seven years in enrolled in superannuation schemes. the State scheme the benefits payable to an employee will exceed those payable under the People like my late grandfather, and their widows Commonwealth legislation. In other words, for an and dependants out there in the streets, are employee who has fewer than seven years of service, extremely confused and worried because of the the current superannuation arrangements are unnecessary behaviour of the Minister for Finance. significantly less than the minimum industry He has behaved, dare I say, like a schoolyard bully. standard. Given the increasing turnover in public He has taken the bully's option of saying, '1t will all sector employment - that is putting it delicately - be done in, we will look at everything, we will it is clearly no longer the case that public sector examine your indexation, we will rip up the book, schemes are more generous than the norm. the history and the understandings that everybody had; and we will rip up the understanding that the community had about how the schemes would SUPERANNUATION (COMPLIANCE) BILL

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2295 operate, and the shared sense within the community I think the Minister and his advisers have that accrued benefits, once received, must be discovered that some people know a lot about protected and were untouchable". superannuation and about financial projections in complex schemes of this kind. The Minister may do This Bill puts a band of extra hoops around the cask, well to adopt a more conciliatory approach to seek so to speak, thereby ensuring that at least minimum some way of problem solving in this area. Options standards and minimum principles will not be are available to help solve any problems. breached. The opposition applauds that. It notes for the record with a great sense of amusement that the These matters are very difficult because one is option has been taken up only because the Minister dealing with the expectations of people and making has suddenly begun to discover what a mire he has projections about their longevity. From my own got himself into. training, the mathematics involved is rather hairy. One can have very large swings in numbers for an The opposition's position on superannuation is that error factor as small as 0.5 per cent. Even so, there is a deal has been made with people; employees have a body of evidence from people with those made contractual arrangements and have a lifetime mathematical and actuarial skills to suggest that our understanding that benefits will be of a certain scheme is in better shape than was originally order, and that benefits cannot be varied thought. downwards retrospectively. Any changes to be made must be made for people on a first-day-start There have been varying estimates about the total basis. Then the employee knows what he or she will unfunded liabilities, and about when the funds will be entitled to; the employee will know what the deal turn around and start to be restored. One figure is and has an option of saying from day 1, "No, I do bandied about was that the total unfunded liability not want that". The opposition's policy is not to would reach the frightening level of between breach the basic legal standard to take something $57 billion and $60 billion by 2023. However, more from people retrospectively. It is not on and is recent analyses and computations suggest that it will offensive. It is insensitive and can only cause great be much earlier - perhaps 2011 or 2013 - and that hurt and hann. those changes made to the scheme in 1988 will actually have the effect of bringing the Victorian This Bill will help put an extra comforting ann, if schemes into financial health much more quickly you like, around those people. That has not been than the changes made in New South Wales in the done out of the goodness of the Minister's heart, or 1980s by the former Premier, Nick Greiner. with any sense of goodwill, or in a spontaneous outbreak of sensitivity. It has been forced upon the There should be some feel by the government for the Minister because he has blundered into an area that impact of the massive retrenchment programs that is virtually a hot spot. He was - and perhaps still the government has undertaken, is undertaking, and is - in real danger of bringing down the wrath of is continuing to undertake, especially where the the Federal industrial relations system on his and the people involved are prepared to take lump sums government's heads in very much the same way that instead of pensions. his colleague, the Minister for Industry and Employment, did in the early unfortunate months of In the future the cost of the schemes will be reduced the life of this government. and they will not be such a drain on the public purse. The effect will not be seen immediately, but The opposition supports the Bill. It has some ideas by the turn of the century the improvement will about how the problems of costs of these funds can have taken place. be met in the future. I have given some hints to the Minister along the way. I have spoken to some The Minister deserves a brickbat for the way he sophisticated, modem trade unions who represent handled this sensitive, complex issue. He caused employees and who run large funds themselves. For great fear and confusion in the community, which example, the Australian Services Union has an was totally unnecessary. Elderly people are entitled approved deposit fund of about $17 million - a to enjoy their retirement without fear of some good earner which has been around for a long time politician announcing that the superannuation and which is run by some very sharp people. They benefits they have accrued with their partners have the best legal and actuarial advice in this city during a lifetime of good citizenship, of paying their available to them. They are not dills, and they know taxes and bringing up their families, will suddenly what they are doing. be reduced rendering some almost destitute. Those SUPERANNUATION (COMPLIANCE) BILL

2296 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 people believed they were assured of a secure complies with the Commonwealth scheme. Until retirement with a little extra to indulge themselves now in a sense judges have had their own in an occasional trip or a few modest luxuries superannuation scheme, but their pension beyond those that they could get if they were on the entitlements have been made through the basic pension. The Minister's action was dreadful; it Constitution Act. The third subject area concerns the was ill-considered, ill-conceived, insensitive and Superannuation (Portability) Act. That is an displayed a patrician approach to the management important area, to which I will refer later. of government. It is important to note that the Minister made his The Bill is a step in the right direction. It goes a small second-reading speech on 14 May -only a week way towards giving an assurance of increased ago. The Bill should be examined closely. Public protection of superannuation rights to those people servants contributing to the various superannuation who have been sorely troubled. We need to find out schemes and retired public servants and their what the Minister had in mind, how he intends to dependents who have continuing entitlements to solve the problems and what that will mean for pensions do not trust the government. those people on superannuation benefits in the community that the opposition takes to its heart. In his second-reading speech the Minister spoke about consultation. He claimed that he had received The DEPUTY SPEAKER - Order! I remind the positive responses. That was not his position a House that the Chair has been extremely liberal with couple of weeks ago when he proposed introducing the lead opposition speaker during his contribution a raft of changes without consultation. To its to the debate. As I mentioned earlier it is a narrow surprise the government found this issue to be very debate and the Chair will restrict speakers to the much alive; they realised its potential to bite. narrow contents of the Bill. I remind honourable members that in the Minister's second-reading The Minister did not understand that it was speech a persistent theme came through that more necessary to comply with the Commonwealth consultation would take place, and that is why the Superannuation Guarantee (Administration) Act. Bill is narrow. Victoria is not an independent republic; it is required to comply with certain Federal Acts and In view of the fact that more consultation will take national standards. It was only after the government place and that Parliament will be dealing with the had opened up the superannuation debate that it larger issue of superannuation when the legislation found it must comply with the Commonwealth Act. is introduced during the spring sessional period, That is the sole reason for the Bill's introduction. The which will provide adequate opportunity for government has until the end of the financial year to honourable members to canvass their views, I ask comply with the Commonwealth legislation or it that honourable members restrict their contributions will face tax penalties. to the subject of the Bill. I understand honourable members have passionate views about the subject As the debate on superannuation continues the and it will be appropriate to air those views during government will find that it has further obligations debate on a later Bill rather than this Bill. to fulfil. Whereas a few weeks ago the government was endeavouring to ram through massive changes, Mr LEIGHTON (Preston) - I note your advice to it now finds that because of a combination of the House, Mc Deputy Speaker. I intend to confine sensible and fair Commonwealth requirements and my comments to the Bill but I shall make passing a backlash from the community it cannot proceed reference to consultation. The Minister's with the haste it originally intended. The second-reading speech canvassed consultation, but I government will find further requirements. with reject the suggestion that it will be quite as he put it. which it must comply. For example, the government I believe it will be a little different. will not be able to touch the accrued benefits of public servants and other public sector employees. The Superannuation (Compliance) Bill deals with three main areas, the most important of which The Bill amends eight State public sector involves ensuring that the various Victorian superannuation schemes, which fall into three superannuation schemes comply with the categories: firstly, defined benefits schemes; Commonwealth superannuation Act. The second secondly, accumulated benefit schemes; and thirdly, subject area concerns changes to judges' pensions. a combination of both. Again the amendment will ensure that their scheme SUPERANNUA TION (COMPLIANCE) BILL

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The eight schemes the Bill amends fall into three people did not get back much more than their own categories. The first category, the defined benefits contributions. scheme, covers the State Superannuation Fund, the Emergency Services Superannuation Fund, the The Bill brings superannuation into line with the Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation Fund, Federal legislation to introduce the notion of vesting, the State Employees Retirement Benefits Fund and particularly for public servants and other public the Transport Superannuation Fund. The second sector employees who serve for only a few years category, the accumulated benefits scheme, includes before moving on. The legislation does not require the State Casual Employees Superannuation Fund an annual contribution to be made, rather it and the third category, which is a combination of anticipates a level of payment based on an actuarial both defined benefits and accumulated benefits, assessment of what a fund would return on a includes the Hospital Superannuation Fund. Clearly, notional contribution at a level required by the the number of schemes available has increased over Federal legislation. That implies that there is a level the past few years. When I was a public sector trade of vesting, but the final figure will not be known for union official in the health area only one scheme was those public sector employees who depart early available for public servants - the State until the departure occurs. The employees then Superannuation Fund. receive the higher of the two amounts; either the benefit that the scheme would have delivered or the If a person was lucky enough to be a permanent amount actuarially calculated as a minimum public servant, to have served 30 years by the time entitlement under the Commonwealth legislation. he or she reached the age of 65 and to have had a reasonable or senior salary for those years, then that It is estimated that after six or seven years in the person could look forward to a comfortable State Superannuation Fund the benefit payable will retirement on 70 per cent of his or her final salary. exceed the benefit payable under the However that scheme had limitations in several Commonwealth legislation. That means public areas. It applied only to permanent public servants, servants and public sector employees with less than so those public servants who had not been able to seven years service will have standards significantly get permanency had no access to any other scheme. behind the minimum industry standard. That is why It was only in 1979 that the Employees Retirement it is important to refer to the basic conditions of the Benefits Act came into existence. For the first time State Superannuation Fund. Much of that is now non-permanent public servants, particularly those being turned on its head by the legislation working in the health area who could not get introduced in the life of this Parliament. There is permanency, had access to superannuation. really no such thing as a career public servant or the Previously all those people had to look forward to notion of permanency. upon retirement was a gratuity of about $100 for every year of service. That was peanuts compared to Traditionally public servants would be paid some of the benefits of the other schemes. up-front salary entitlements which differed from their counterparts in private industry. In return they One of the difficulties with the State Superannuation had access to other benefits that were higher than Fund - this is where the Commonwealth the community standards. That is no longer the case. government is to be congratulated for introducing Not only do they now have permanency but also the its compliance scheme -was that it was based on wider community has well and truly caught up with the notion of career public servants. People had to Public SerVice superannuation entitlements, enter the Public Service early in their working lives particularly for those employees who do not serve and continue in the service until they retired. They more than 30 years before retiring. were stuck in the Public Service and there was no opportunity for them to move between the Public That is why the Commonwealth legislation ensures Service and the wider public sector or to move and why the State government is legislating to between the public sector and private industry. ensure that people who retire or who move on for whatever reason receive something more than their As I said, if a person was lucky enough to accept own contributions. In other words, the State that he or she was a career public servant, work for government is required to ensure - even if it is not 30 years and then retire at age 65, that person going to make its own contributions up front - that departed on a pension of 70 per cent of salary the employee upon his or her departure receives indexed for life. However, there were substantial additional benefits. penalties for those who left early. In many cases SUPERANNUATION (COMPLIANCE) BILL

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The opposition welcomes clause 13, which amends The legislation is the first step. If the government the Superannuation (Portability) Act 1989 and believes for one moment it is out of the woods it is corrects one of the problems with the State wrong; it has in the space of a few months lost any Superannuation Fund. If a person moved to another goodwill and trust that it could have expected from area of the public sector he or she would have had to public servants and public sector employees. resign from the State scheme and could not carry those benefits over. All that person would receive Despite what the Minister said in his second-reading would be his or her contributions. That was crazy, speech, I do not accept that there is a real particularly in the psychiatric area that I represented commitment to consult with public servants, but as a trade union official. Many of the nursing staff because of the Commonwealth Act the government working in psychiatric hospitals would often go to has a legal requirement to act in a certain way. The train in general hospitals and would have to resign government has no right to touch the accrued from the State Superannuation Fund. In those days benefits of its existing employees. people were not given the same incentive under the tax arrangements to roll over the money they I have spoken about the various types of schemes received as benefits. The nurses would go to general and whether they had a defined or accrued benefit. hospitals for three years training and then come One of the difficulties in the emergency services back to the psychiatric hospitals. They would have superannuation scheme is that it is based on a lump to apply once again for permanency, pass a medical sum payout; one can see what benefit one has examination and begin to qualify all over again. accrued. In other schemes, such as the previous State superannuation scheme that covered public servants It was a disincentive for staff to move through areas before it was closed off, employees were entitled to of the State public sector to obtain additional both a pension and a lump sum but there was the training and qualifications. They paid a heavy price argument about whether one had been accruing an for doing so. As a result, in the 1980s arrangements entitlement to a pension. were entered into, particularly in the mental health and the intellectually disabled persons services The government has a long way to go and must not areas, and provision was made in the Mental Health only accept the consultation to which it was Act that provided for public servants who moved committed but must go a step further by accepting into another area, such as a psychiatric unit in a in an area as basic as superannuation that people public hospital, to be seconded across and in that have a right to retire with dignity and comfort. The way they could maintain not only their salary government should consult and negotiate with its entitlements but also their status as permanent existing employees where the entitlements amount public servants with membership of the State to contracts of employment, and must negotiate and superannuation scheme. get agreement with trade unions and employees before changing the system. I welcome the amendment to the Superannuation (Portability) Act in clause 13 of the Bill, which will Mr MICALLEF (Springvale) - I, like many also further encourage mobility of public sector people in the community, have become an instant employees; it will potentially give a much wider expert on superannuation and I express my concerns definition of the government as an employer. Clause about superannuation issues. The Superannuation 13 inserts section 5(1)(c), which refers to a member (Compliance) Bill is a step in the right direction. of a scheme who changes employment to accept Although it has been introduced as a result of employment: Commonwealth legislation, I hope other States move towards uniformity not by coercion but by with an employer declared by Order of the Governor in agreement with all the benefits that accrue with a Council to be an approved employer for the purposes uniform scheme instead of having numerous of this section - ". individual schemes that have a multitude of benefits. This is a more sensible way to go. The Bill has been introduced because the government has been forced by the Federal The opposition supports the move towards government to comply with sensible arrangements. uniformity. Other aims in the Bill are to safeguard There are several other features of the Bill that I employees' entitlements. Under the Commonwealth welcome, and, as the honourable member for Act to which this Bill responds the relevant board Sunshine indicated, the opposition does not oppose will be empowered to increase the benefit amount the Bill. otherwise payable up to the amount of the SUPERANNUA TION (COMPLIANCE) BILL

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2299 minimum requirement. It will safeguard those in the be applying for social security and other scheme by applying a minimum level of benefit that Commonwealth benefits. It is better if schemes that satisfies Commonwealth requirements. attract community support are available to lessen the taxpayers' responsibilities in terms of directly The honourable member for Preston spoke about funding social security benefits. People are sensibly flexibility and the need for mobility. He spoke about planning their retirements by entering clause 13 and referred to portability of entitlements. superannuation schemes. Section 96 was used in the past to guarantee entitlements that accrued under superannuation Public servants who have taken retirement packages rather than people resigning from various funds, did so on the basis of projected incomes, and those taking up employment elsewhere and reapplying for incomes need to be guaranteed. The Bill helps to pennanency and superannuation. I support the provide that guarantee to public servants. It deals mobility clause. As a former trade union official it with eight schemes under eight Acts. was one of the matters that we were supporting and aiming towards for some time. It is pleasing that The government's timetable for sweeping changes these issues that have been discussed for many years seems to have been put on hold; the original are being dealt with. timetable was obviously extremely ambitious and unachievable. A longer period will be allowed for I commend the Commonwealth government for that proper consultation before major changes are made move and the State government for responding. to superannuation schemes. The original timetable Superannuation is a controversial issue in the was unrealistic and the government accepts that community. There are 1.5 million people affected by position; it seems to have backed off from the superannuation. They may not be directly involved original timetable. but there are families, beneficiaries and those who will seek benefits from superannuation. It covers a The Commonwealth schemes have been developed wide net within the community. after long and effective consultation with the trade unions and the community in general. The aim is to The superannuation issue has not been handled well provide a comprehensive superannuation coverage by the government. The move to introduce the for all employees, at a rate increasing to 9 per cent of discussion paper and the proposals earlier this year salary by 2002. If that can be achieved, Australians set up a chain reaction and the community who are out of the work force will have guaranteed responded in an angry and concerned way to income levels. Retirees will have the quality of life to potential changes to superannuation without an which they have been accustomed. effective and proper consultation process that would have taken the community with it. The Bill provides amendments to eight superannuation schemes, as I pointed out, and the The matter of unfunded liabilities was known about amendments will affect each scheme according to its before the State election; it was not an issue the structure. I do not propose to go into the detail of government suddenly discovered. The unfunded each of the schemes; previous speakers have done so liabilities were clearly spelt out in the Nicholls effectively. However, I believe the proposed report. legislation provides for a formula that delivers a level of payments. Employees will receive the higher I hope the government has learnt from that lesson. of two amounts that have been calculated under the As a local member I have received numerous formula, and that will provide a guaranteed level of telephone calls, letters and contacts from people benefits. The formula is based on the benefits that wanting to know what is happening with the scheme would have delivered or the amount superannuation. They needed reassurance. It is actuarially calculated as the minimum entitlement better for the government to deal with the matter under the Commonwealth legislation, which is in responsibly. line with Commonwealth requirements.

The concept of superannuation is strongly I believe it will take six to seven years for benefits supported by the Federal government and the paid under the State schemes to exceed payments community. The Federal government has negotiated made under the Commonwealth legislation. The effectively with the trade unions, which is a sensible shadow Treasurer pointed out that the benefits way of going about it. Australia has an ageing delivered under the so-called lucrative State population; as people reach retirement age they will schemes are not well in advance of those provided SUPERANNUA TION (COMPLIANCE) BILL

2300 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 under other schemes. The move towards consistency Commonwealth. If the Commonwealth continues and uniformity will help make the overall system down the track of complexity, which it is certainly more effective. on at the moment, it will be hard for the funds to keep up with the degree of change required of them This proposed legislation is important. The by the Commonwealth. Inevitably, as it already is, opposition's overall policy on superannuation is to that will impose additional costs on members. In oppose the removal of pension indexation and defined benefit schemes, like the ones in Victoria, reductions in accrued benefits. Those matters are that is perhaps not so serious for the members, important, although not flagged in the Bill. although it is certainly serious for the government. In schemes that do not have a defined benefit - that Superannuation is a matter of real concern in the is, the main private sector schemes - there will be, community. The opposition will monitor the as there already is, considerable cost imposed on situation carefully; it will consult with interest members by compliance. groups, retired employees, trade unions and others to ensure that people's rights are protected. The 1 appeal to the Commonwealth - which no doubt more people covered by superannuation schemes, will not listen - to try to bring a degree of the better for the whole country. If places like Italy simplicity and commonsense to bear on working can guarantee workers a retirement wage of an towards a reduction in the degree of difficulty in the average of 70 per cent of their income over their area, rather than adding to its complexity. They are working life Australia, with its traditional high the only comments 1 make on the Bill, standards and quality of life, should be able to acknowledging the contributions of honourable match that and deliver a level of benefits that will members. enable people who have worked for many years to retire with the quality of life to which they are The ACTING SPEAKER (Mr Perrin) - Order! entitled. As the second reading of this Bill is required to be passed by an absolute majority and there are not 45 Mr I. W. SMITH (Minister for Finance)-I members present in the Chamber, 1 ask the Clerk to acknowledge the contributions to the ring the bells. second-reading debate. Most, understandably, were not on the Bill, but on the issue of superannuation. A Bells rung. couple of points should be made. The government has always said that amendments to comply with Required number of members having assembled the Commonwealth Superannuation Guarantee in Chamber: (Administration) Act would be introduced this session, and that has been done. Motion agreed to by absolute majority.

The government also said it is determined to have a Read second time. proper process of consultation, and 1 invite members of the opposition to discuss this process with their Committed. trade union colleagues. They will find they will be pleasantly surprised with the extent of consultation Committee which has already taken place and which will continue. 1 think they would agree that nothing is Clause 1 agreed to. being shoved down their throats and that time for consultation will be allowed. The time agreed upon Clause 2 for that process to take place, if required, is until the end of August. Mr I. W. SMITH (Minister for Finance) -I move: 1. Clause 2, line 4, after "other than" insert "section 4(4) A matter that has become obvious is that the and". Commonwealth needs to pull up its socks a bit, so to speak, and try to make the provisions for 2. Clause 2, after line 5, insert - superannuation far less complicated than they are. "() Section 4(4) comes into operation on 1 July The industry around Australia is in considerable 1993." turmoil in trying to cope with the far-reaching effects of the changes already imposed on it by 1 apologise to the House for introducing any legislation and regulation introduced by the amendments. Those honourable members who have EMERGENCY SERVICES SUPERANNUATION (SPECIAL PAYMENTS) BILL

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followed the debate on the Bill will understand that Report adopted. in view of the number of schemes and their complexity and variety, it is inevitable that when Third reading many people examine proposed legislation such as the Bill some suggestions will be made. The SPEAKER -Order! I declare that the third reading of the Bill requires to be passed by an The two minor amendments are made simply to absolute majority. As there are not 45 members avoid the possibility of any retrospectivity in present, I ask the Clerk to ring the bells. changing the benefits that have already been paid out to people. There may not be any people in that Bells rung. category, but, to overcome that slight possible risk, the amendments have been introduced. The date is Required number of members having assembled changed to 1 July this year instead of 1 July last year. in Chamber:

Mr BAKER (Sunshine) - The opposition Motion agreed to by absolute majority. supports the amendments. It is understood they have been introduced as a result of concerns Read third time. expressed by the relevant trade unions during negotiations on the Bill. Particular concern was EMERGENCY SERVICES expressed about clause 4 which could, as the SUPERANNUATION (SPECIAL Minister said, have reduced the benefit PAYMENTS) BILL retrospectively. That was not acceptable and would have been contrary to the Federal regulations. Second reading Difficulties could have been encountered, and the opposition is pleased that the matter has been fixed. Debate resumed from 14 May; motion of Mr McNAMARA (Minister for Police and Amendments agreed to; amended clause agreed to. Emergency Services).

Clause 3 Mr SERCOMBE (Niddrie) - The opposition does not oppose the Bill, although it would like the Mr I. W. SMITH (Minister for Finance) - I move: opportunity to hear a response from the Minister for Finance in closing the second-reading debate in 3. Clause 3, page 3, line 40, and page 4, lines 1 to 5, omit clarifying some of the matters contained in the Bill, "the amount contributed by him or her to the and arising from the Bill. Scheme and interest at the prescribed rate calculated in accordance with the occupational The Bill arises from two elements of background. In superannuation standards on that amount" and January 1992 the government of the day merged the insert "rus or her adjusted total contributions Metropolitan Fire Brigades Superannuation Fund within the meaning of the Emergency Services into the Emergency Services Superannuation Superannuation Scheme Regulations 1987". Scheme, which involved a transfer of approximately The amendment has been introduced as a result of 400 pensioners and 6 remaining contributors at that representations from the Emergency Services stage, towards the end of 1991, from the old Superannuation Fund. For the purposes of that fund, Metropolitan Fire Brigade superannuation fund. members' contributions and interest are expressed in a defined benefit term as "adjusted total The government of the day regarded that as a contributions". On the advice of the fund's actuary measure that had considerable merit on the basis and board, it is considered appropriate to maintain that the old Metropolitan Fire Brigade that approach rather than introduce another superannuation fund was regarded as non-viable approach that would necessitate expensive systems and there were administrative savings and income and administrative changes. tax advantages to be gained through the measures that were taken at that point. Amendment agreed to; amended clause agreed to; clauses 4 to 13 agreed to. A feature of the old Metropolitan Fire Brigade superannuation fund was arrangements for special Reported to House with amendments. payments to be made to reduce the unfunded liability by having an arrangement where the EMERGENCY SERVICES SUPERANNUATION (SPECIAL PAYMENTS) BILL

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Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board and the However, considerable care should be taken to Consolidated Fund made payments to the scheme. ensure that the government measures, whether At the time the merger of the schemes occurred achieved by a reduction in Budget allocations or the those arrangements were carried forward into the provision currently before the House - they have merged Emergency Services Superannuation the same effect on the finances of the MFBB - can Scheme with the effect that for the year 1991-92 be achieved without downgrading the quality of the special payments were made to the tune of service, the central measure of which is the response $1.5 million from the Metropolitan Fire Brigades time to fires. Board and $3 million from the Consolidated Fund. The House must accept the government's assurance, In the current year those ratios are approximately a reflected in the second-reading speech of the call of $4.25 million on the Consolidated Fund and a Minister for Police and Emergency Services and call of $2.125 million on the Metropolitan Fire given on other occasions, that reductions to the Brigades Board itself. The Bill deals with that issue budget of the MFBB can be achieved without by transferring the total sum of that contribution to significant risk to the community. It is a serious the Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board and away matter because life and property is involved and the from the Consolidated Fund. government should closely scrutinise the implications of these provisions. The second element to the background of this Bill arises from the obvious difficulty the government If the government is determined to reduce the has in achieving budget savings with an resources available to the MFBB, there are more organisation like the Metropolitan Fire Brigade, appropriate ways to achieve savings for the given the mix of its statutory contributions and Consolidated Fund of $4.25 million than redUCing given that from the Consolidated Fund only the board's budget. The $4.25 million that the one-eighth of its budget is met. I cannot recall the government is saving for the Consolidated Fund is precise ratios, but the great bulk of the statutory significantly more than the 3 per cent saving the contributions to the Metropolitan Fire Brigade come Minister for Police and Emergency Services said from the insurance industry with 12.5 per cent from would be the call on the budget of the MFBB. That the State government and a small contribution from saving would have been about $3.76 million, so the local councils. government is taking resources of about $5()() 000 from the MFBB over and above what it first As the opposition has pointed out in debate in this indicated. place, if the government were to seek to achieve a saving in outlays to itself from cuts to the outlays of The opposition wants clarified, firstly, whether it is the Metropolitan Fire Brigade, that would have intended that similar arrangements will be made for draconian implications given the fact that the the superannuation liabilities of other outer-Budget government itself contributes only one-eighth of the agencies; secondly, whether the government will budget. confirm the opposition's expectation that the amendment to what is, in effect, a closed For example, given the funding mix, achieving the superannuation scheme will result in a decline of the reduction on the call on the Consolidated Fund of liability the MFBB is assuming from the $4.25 million would have required a reduction of Consolidated Fund. It is probable that the liability $34 million in the budget of the Metropolitan Fire will decline because of the inevitable effects of the Brigades Board. That would have had dramatic effluxion of time on the members who are the effects on fire services and was not a viable option. recipients of the superannuation benefits. If the In addition, it would have given the insurance opposition's assumption is correct, its concerns may industry a short-term windfall gain by saving be allayed if the increased call on the financial Significant amounts that the industry and local resources of the MFBB, being in excess of 3 per cent government are statutorily required to contribute to this year for emergency services, declines in the the funding mix of the MFBB. The government has future as a result of this amendment. decided on the measure before the House rather than a reduction in Budget outlays. Given the Thirdly, the opposition has previously raised with background I have outlined, it is not unreasonable to the Minister for Police and Emergency Services the achieve Budget savings in this way. decision of the Supreme Court in the Saint Catherine's School case, the effect of which was to deprive the MFBB of about $3 million in revenue LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2303 because the court found a defect in the Act that does not necessarily mean that they will all be prevented the brigade from collecting a fee for changed. attendance at a false alarm. That defect in the Act will have a dramatic effect on the board's revenue. l have emphasised on many occasions that an The opposition was critical of the government for intensive process of consultation is in progress. Until not introducing legislation to rectify the defect found that process is concluded, the government will not by the Supreme Court. It seemed that the make any decisions - and I stress that point. The Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board had lost its honourable member will have to be patient. The capacity to charge for attendance at false alarms. It government would welcome any suggestions the took the case from the Administrative Appeals honourable member may have in mind regarding Tribunal, where the matter originated, to the out-of-budget superannuation schemes. Supreme Court. The second point mentioned by the Deputy Leader One would assume the board would have taken of the Opposition was the potential for declining careful legal advice before it argued its case before liability of the scheme of the Metropolitan Fire the Supreme Court, but the Supreme Court Brigades Board. My understanding is that that supported the ruling of the Administrative Appeals would be the case through retirement and attrition. Tribunal. The result was a drain on resources and The Deputy Leader of the Opposition indicated that the inability of the brigade to maximise its revenue I may not be aware of his last point - that is, the flows. One would have hoped that the government legal case involving the Metropolitan Fire Brigades might have used this opportunity to clarify that and St Catherine's School, and he is correct. I shall matter and put forward legislation to deal with speak to the Minister for Police and Emergency other-aspects that impinge on the budget and Services when the Bill is between here and another financial viability of the Metropolitan Fire Brigades place and ask him to give attention to that request. Board. Motion agreed to. I indicated at the outset of my remarks on this point that they may be a little unfair to the Minister for Read second time. Finance because he may not be aware of the matter, but the opposition has raised the matter in the Passed remaining stages. House with the Minister for Police and Emergency Services. Given that this debate relates to the LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE finances of the fire services, it seems an appropriate (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL occasion to remind the government of that matter. Debate resumed from 19 May; motion of I do not intend to delay the House any longer. The Mrs WADE (Attorney-General). opposition does not oppose the Bill but would appreciate clarification from the Minister on the Mr CO LE (Melbourne) - The Bill is extremely concerns that I have raised during the course of important not only for law reform in Victoria - or debate, particularly on how the Minister regards the against law reform, depending on the way you look proposals relating to what he may be contemplating at it - but also for the Law Institute of Victoria. The for superannuation arrangements of outer-Budget opposition supports the amendments dealing with agencies. the Solicitors Guarantee Fund, however, at this stage it does not support in any way the creation of the Mr I. W. SMITH (Minister for Finance) - I Law Reform Account as part of that fund. acknowledge the contribution made by the Deputy Leader of the Opposition, who raised three The opposition proposes to move a reasoned opposition concerns. The honourable member amendment at the appropriate juncture as follows: requested information on the government's intention for outer-Budget agencies. I made it clear That all words after "That" be omitted with the view of in my statement of April that, although the inserting in place thereof the words "this House refuses government's focus was principally on to read this Bill a second time until the Law Reform superannuation outlays to the budget and the rapid Committee of the Parliament has inquired into and escalation in those outlays, all public sector reported upon the most appropriate way of funding superannuation schemes were being reviewed. That law reform and, in particular, the operation of a Law LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

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Reform Account as part of the Solicitors Guarantee Is there a seconder for the reasoned amendment Fund. moved by the honourable member for Melbourne?

Opposition members view this as being very close to Or COG HILL (Werribee) - I second the a money Bill, as is evidenced by their belief that the amendment. Bill should have had its inception in this House rather than the other House. lhat position reflects The ACTING SPEAKER - Order! The how important substantial amounts of public funds amendment has been seconded. Will the honourable are and not necessarily just funds from or to member for Melbourne please continue? consolidated revenue. I will go into more detail on that later. Mr COLE (Melbourne) - Before I was interrupted I said that a decision had been made that It is crucial that all members understand that we are solicitors' trust accounts should attract interest. talking about public funds. Controversy has There is also a requirement for solicitors to place surrounded the use of the Solicitors Guarantee Fund two-thirds of the lowest annual balance of their trust and much of that is addressed by the Bill. I am account into a separate account to be invested by the pleased the Attorney-General has introduced those Law Institute of Victoria. The purpose of that provisions of the Bill, but unfortunately they are not requirement is to create an account that will attract explained as well they should be. When the House the highest possible rate of interest. This Bill goes into Committee I would like further proposes to increase that figure from two-thirds to explanation of how it is intended to ensure that the 72 per cent - a welcome move that will increase the fund is accountable in the manner suggested in the size of the central pool of funds and, therefore, second-reading speech. I am not suggesting that the attract greater interest. fund will not achieve that purpose, and I acknowledge that a review will take place. I shall The application of the centralised banking system to talk about that later, also. the Solicitors Guarantee Fund is the best method of increasing the amount of interest by entering -- The opposition vehemently opposes the contents of the second-reading speech. At this stage it does not Or Coghill - Mr Acting Speaker, I draw your support the creation of the Law Reform Account; it attention to the state of the House. would prefer the matter to go to the Law Reform Committee for consideration. However the Quorum formed. opposition supports the Solicitors Guarantee Fund. There have been difficulties with the fund; it is Mr COLE - Before I was interrupted I was difficult at times to understand conceptually - I attempting to say that the Law Institute of Victoria is have certainly had difficulty getting around all the now in a better position, as is the community at different issues. large, to negotiate with banks on the interest payable on funds invested than it would be if the money It is important to understand that solicitors operate were still spread over separate accounts. trust accounts. Traditionally, although sometimes many millions of dollars were held in those The issue of authorised expenditure has been the accounts, because those funds were somebody else's subject of dispute within the community, and some money they did not attract interest. In the early of it vexatious. In the Committee stage I would like 1980s it was decided that was a waste and that the to have clarified exactly how the authorisation of banks were perhaps getting a bit of a free ride -- expenditure from the fund is to be monitored and how the amendment to section 53(4) of the principal Mr COOPER (Momington) - On a point of Act, although it seems reasonably specific, will order, Mr Acting Speaker, I understand that the work. What will be the method of ensuring that the honourable member for Melbourne has moved a Law Institute's expenditure is authorised? I do not reasoned amendment, but I did not hear whether suggest that it would not be authorised. that reasoned amendment had been seconded. I understand that it has not been seconded. I ask that Any increase in expenditure of funds will be limited you rule on the matter. to amounts approved by the Treasurer. This issue has been the subject of debate in the Scrutiny of Acts The ACTING SPEAKER (Mr Maughan) - and Regulations Committee. I consider a Order! The reasoned amendment was not seconded. requirement for an authority from the Treasurer to LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2305 be a good measure. The Treasurer was, and finding solutions to them. One aspect the government probably still is, a barrister and may wish one day to will be investigating in the coming months is the return to the bar, so I am sure he will not be too hard structure of the legal profession. on the Law Institute. I do not have any concern about the Treasurer authorising expenditure. I applaud the Attorney-General for that.

Aside from the faith we have in the Treasurer to Mrs Wade interjected. look after the public funds entrusted to the Law Institute, there is a need for the Attorney-General to Mr COLE - I do not think this issue is as clarify what is to be authorised expenditure. I do not courageous as some of the other things the understand it fully because I am not aware of all the Attorney-General has done, but I suppose it issues involved. depends on what comes out of it. My concern is with the comments: The term "public purposes moneys" is used in the Minister's second-reading speech. Although that Officers of the Department of Justice will be examining term describes money used for a public purpose, it is the many reports that have been produced in clearly also public money. The fund is to be audited Australian jurisdictions and overseas in recent years by the Auditor-General, who has been diligent in his with a view to producing a reform agenda for the approach to these sorts of matters. I am pleased that profession in this State. the repeal of section 56 of the principal Act will allow the Auditor-General to watch over the actions I do not know whether the Attorney-General will of the Law Institute. include the bar in that review or whether it will deal only with solicitors. I should be pleased if it were to Recently and over many years criticisms have been be a review of the generic legal profession, but my levelled at the Law Institute on this issue and at least concern is that it will be done only by departmental one person was sent to gaol over it. Many of the officers who will simply examine and consider fears held about the Law Institute should be allayed reports. by the provision allowing for the Auditor-General to scrutinise what the opposition accepts are public Some reviews of the legal profession have already funds. That independent government officer will be been done. Many good recommendations came from able to examine the use of the funds and determine the Law Reform Commission's review of the whether any criticism of the Law Institute regarding Victorian Bar Council. However, although the those funds is justified. working party consulted, it might have achieved better results if it had consulted more widely than The Minister stated in the second-reading speech with the Victorian Bar Council, which tends to want that for the first time the management of the funds to preserve its profeSSion rather than change it. will be open to the public purview, and that is a Market forces will probably play a big part in what good thing. In a sense it subjects the Law Institute happens to the bar in the future. and the legal profession to a new level of accountability. Much needs to be done with the legal profession to achieve easier access to justice, to reduce the costs The fact that it has cooperated shows the maturity of that are part of that access and to assist people in the Law Institute's approach to matters concerning coming to grips with the very nature of the legal the legal profession, specifically with regard to profession. A review by departmental officers solicitors. merely studying reports and then recommending legislative change is not the way to go. Other broad-ranging issues mentioned in the Attorney-General's second-reading speech do not On the odd occasion in the past I have been critical concern me but I wish to comment on the suggestion of the legal profeSSion, and I believe change is of reforms to the legal profession. The needed especially with the upper level of income of second-reading speech states: the bar and the cost that is associated with the provision of services, especially for litigation. But While the Bill makes an important contribution to law there are also many other issues to do with the reform and to improving the Solicitors Guarantee provision of legal aid that relate to restructuring the Fund, the government is aware of the many problems legal profeSSion and making access to it easier. I am confronting the justice system and is committed to not suggesting the legal profession has not been LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

2306 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 ready to give legal aid, but we must consider the It is interesting to examine the way that legal structure of the community legal centres, with which services in regional centres like BaHarat and Bendigo I have some experience because that is where I have evolved. In some ways they have been gained my professional experience. protected from the competitive changes and requirements that have occurred in the city. The We must also consider community education situation will change for those legal services, too. programs in the law as a way of reducing legal costs. The Attorney-General and the whole community We must look at substantive changes to the practice will have to address that matter at some stage. of law and to court proceedings to reduce the cost to BaHarat is only an hour's drive from Melbourne. the community. At the end of the day that is what Therefore it is reasonable to ask whether it is any review of the legal profession, which is necessary for circuit courts to operate there and suggested in the second-reading speech, should be whether the cost is becoming prohibitive if they no about. The only way to achieve reforms, whatever longer fulfil their intended functions. I am not they might be, is by collaboration with all aspects of suggesting that we should get rid of them; I am the law, not by examining reports. I say talking about people having access to the law and "collaboration" rather than "cooperation" because the legal profession. total cooperation on something as sensitive as changes to the legal profession is hard to get. I wonder what would happen to the legal profession in Ballarat if those changes took place. We are all too The outcome of reform should be to make the law quick to say that it does not matter because they are cheaper, more accessible and easier to understand. I only a pack of lawyers and they can go. The attitude believe reform of solicitors' practices has already is the same in the WorkCover debate; we tend to come a long way. For instance, 10 or 15 years ago think it does not matter and we can get rid of all the competition in conveyancing was introduced. lawyers involved. However, they provide a service Conveyancing costs were previously set on an ad and, like most things, if you upset the balance in the valorem scale but that has now changed and the fee economy, the people who have relied on and used a reflects the amount of work involved; the cost of service are no longer able to use it because it is no conveyancing has declined in real terms since then. longer there. Conveyancing was always regarded as the bread and butter of a solicitor's income. Although the legal This is an issue of major concern to me. It may aspects of conveyancing are still done by a solicitor, sound like I am a great supporter of the private the field of conveyancing has been opened up to lay profession. Indeed, I am. I worked in a legal service people. for almost 10 years - 7 years on a full-time basis and 3 years on a part-time basis. Even now, people As the shadow Minister for consumer affairs I am regularly come to see me seeking legal advice. I now also interested in solicitors competing in the refer them to private practitioners because I am not marketplace, and the value of suburban solicitors allowed to give advice any more. Perhaps it also has should not be underrated. The practice of law something to do with the fact that my advice is not should not be solely the domain of big legal firms in as good as it used to be! the city, because suburban solicitors provide the simplest and quickest access to the law for many in Certainly when I was working in the the community. Some legal firms do not now charge Flemington-Kensington legal service I found that the a fee for the first interview and solicitors are law firms in the city were very responsive, and I am generally helpful to people. not necessarily referring to the Labor law firms. They were certainly very responsive and we were If the shop-front suburban solicitor is taken away - able to develop good relations with them so they regardless of whether the practice is located in took on cases where people could not afford legal Sydney Road, Brunswick, or Station Street, Box representation or where it was not possible to fund Hill - that need will still exist. If a profession them through legal aid. Hundreds of thousands of continues to move towards total specialisation and if dollars worth of work was done by big, city firms on that is encouraged and promoted by some review family law cases and commercial matters. A lot of process to the point where it is too quick or even that work is forgotten; it is not because the firms are unacceptable we will lose that major area of access too humble but probably because they do not want to the law. to advertise the fact that they are doing this work because they might have people appearing on their doorstep asking them to do more. LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

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Using the Ballarat and Bendigo example was good, not really fault people for not taking cases on but Flemington and inner city areas - or even local because at least they tried. As I said, I do not wish to suburban firms - are better examples because big, belabour the point - although it may sound like I city firms are closer to people. If we restructure the am - but the other people that worry me are not profession and decide that all bets are off and that necessarily those on lower incomes who can get there will be no monopoly, no Law Institute and so legal aid but those in the slightly higher income on - I should like to see a debate take place on that bracket who do not qualify for legal aid. I refer to the matter - the downside is that people will have no people who, on paper, always look like they can hope of getting the service they now receive. I am afford the high legal fees but who cannot. not saying the current system is perfect, but it has improved under both previous Liberal and Labor It is a classic problem in the family law area that governments, and I have worked under both. The people in the middle-income bracket, particularly concept of legal aid had a meteoric rise under both women, who are not quite eligible for legal aid have Liberal and Labor governments, and certainly the to pay for legal representation themselves. In many commitment of both Liberal and Labor Federal cases, a person who owns a house literally loses it in governments was always high, although it is much order to pay the legal fees. It is a terrible thing. I am more so under the Labor government. involved in a such a matter at present. I will not go into it, but it is a catch-22 situation for people in that I do not want to go on at length and belabour the position. If the dispute is resolved by agreement, point too much, but I am concerned that as a result there is no problem and the person keeps the of this Bill access to the law will become more house - invariably it is the woman in a family law difficult, as it was in a sense in the late 1970s and case. However, if it is not resolved by agreement it early 1980s. I recall the debates that took place at can drag on and a person could end up losing the that time about conveyancing and the sort of house to pay the legal costs. That does not mean that bread-and-butter work of the legal profession. Once he or she would be left without some equity, but he you take away or reduce that sort of work, solicitors or she would have to sell the house to pay the legal have to look to other areas to make money. costs. That is one of the things I am concerned about.

People will say that you cannot argue against When we talk about these problems we must also cross-subsidisation. I know that that is an important talk about overservicing, and the Attorney-General issue and that you cannot use that argument for and others should address that in a consultative your costing, but it is important that we consider the way. It concerns me because in many cases in the effect of taking away a monopoly or other structure family law area, although it happens in other areas on costs for people who already cannot afford legal of the law as well, there are problems of representation. It will affect the very basic matters, overservicing and deliberately forcing people into such as the preparation of a will. The price for the litigation. In my opinion it happens all too often in preparation of a will will increase if other areas of family law. I know it is a Federal matter, but it work decrease. There is no doubt in my mind that affects people in Victoria and on the odd occasion that will happen. If people have to pay $300 to have Victorian solicitors may be among those who force a will prepared, the cost will be prohibitive. At the people into litigious situations when it may be end of the day, that would be a tax on the State, possible to get the parties to sit down in what is although it would be only marginal because the often a volatile emotional situation and come to an State would get a quid out of it if it is an intestate agreement. Some lawyers do not do that; they estate. deliberately force the dispute to go further.

It is not just a simple matter of deciding to reform Those inquiries could be resolved by further and deregulate the system and break down all the investigation and the collection of statistical data. barriers; it is not as simple as just abolishing the Law My concern about the law is that, after a decision is Institute so that all the solicitors compete in the made, we do not go back and ascertain what has marketplace because it does not work quite like that. happened, whether it be in the Family Court or the criminal courts. We should analyse why the case My concern is genuine. I have had considerable reached the point it did and whether it should have experience with private practitioners in both Labor reached the court. Worse still, no-one follows up the and non-Labor law firms. All have sought to help in access and custody arrangements in Family Court cases that I was working on when I was at the cases. I recognise that as it is a Federal issue it may Flemington-Kensington legal service. In fact, I could not concern the House, but it should concern the LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

2308 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 legal profession. I was pleased to see a report the of the community. It does not match the former Law other day that revealed that the separation of Reform Commission, which had hundreds of people marriage partners was not as hard on children as we involved in producing its reports - people such as had thought. Of course there is also the alternative Kate Gilmore from the Coalition Against Sexual view. Assault, Eamon Moran, and so on. It was a different group with a much broader agenda. The council We should be looking at what the system does to really has no authority; it is merely an advisory people and whether we can improve or truncate the council. The Attorney-General will now have access system, especially where harsh decisions are taken to a fund, the Law Reform Account, that previously on property settlement. Unless the legal profession would have been the fund of the Law Reform has the maturity to handle those issues and develop Commission, although not all of it. some new ethics it is in for a hard time. The legal profession will be deregulated because the I recall the debate when the Law Reform community outcry will be too strong. I do not know Commission was abolished and the many comments whether that will resolve the problem, but that will the Attorney-General had to make about the be the reaction. It is an important issue and I hope it commission. The first was that it had not been will be resolved. independent, which I disagreed with strongly because its charter required it to be independent. I would not dare suggest that the Law Reform The Attorney-General said it was a branch of the Committee should examine the issue because it is Attorney-General's office, which I assume was not something I believe it should do. It is an issue because it had to take references. She said it was a that should be addressed by a working party government research resource similar to the policy comprising representatives from a broad and research branch of the department. cross-section of the community. The Attorney-General said there was overlapping We must ask ourselves what reforms we want to because Or David Neal was a commissioner of the achieve in considering the legal profession. If we Law Reform Commission and had been seconded to approach it from that direction and get all the the pOSition of director of policy and research in the parties involved, I am sure we can solve the department. I did not know David Neal before he problems. It is not enough to pass the matter on to a was dismissed from the commission but since then I departmental officer and ask him to read a few have spoken with him and believe he is one of the reports and come up with a conclusion. That process brightest people I have ever met. He has written will not work. If officers were to read all the material many books and his curriculum vitae is and then refer it to a working party, that would be extraordinary. He is a very capable and independent different; it would have a better chance of working. person. That was not good enough for the This is an important issue to the community, to Attorney-General; she had him dismissed. Not only low-income earners and to me. that, Or Neal was dismissed from the commission without any compensation for loss of income - but I turn now to the trilogy of law reform introduced that is another story; it was distressing for both Or by the government last year. Firstly, it abolished the Neal and for his family. Law Reform Commission. Secondly, it established the Law Reform Committee, of which I am a The Attorney-General said the people on the Law member, and thirdly, it established the Scrutiny of Reform Commission were gifted amateurs. I will not Acts and Regulations Committee, of which I am not reiterate what I said in the earlier debate, but many a member because I am not powerful and important prominent people were members of the Law Reform enough for the all-powerful, all-party Parliamentary Commission. Only the commissioners were paid. Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - if it When the Attorney-General issued her recent press survives the wrath of the government! release she said the Law Reform Advisory Council was going back to the days when people did things I turn to the recent establishment of the Law Reform for nothing. I wonder whether the members of the Advisory Council. I do not wish to be critical of any council will be described as gifted amateurs. I am of the people on the council, including Professor not sure what the Attorney-General meant when she Greg Craven, the Crown Counsel (Advisings), said that they were voluntary. With all due respect, because all of them have ability. There are some no payment should be expected by Professor good people on the council but I express concern Crommelin or the Supreme and County court judges that it is an elite group; it is not a broad cross-section who will be members of the council. LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

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The Attorney-General also talked about the members of the commission - Professor Kelly had independence of the former Law Reform finished his term as chairman - she could have Commission. There is no relationship between the appointed others. Instead she chose to abolish the Law Reform Advisory Council and how the Law commission because she did not want an Reform Account will be used because it is at the independent body investigating issues of law reform. discretion of the Attorney-General. If the Law Reform Commission lacked independence and was The commission's control of its budget and keeping just an arm of the government, how can the council, of accounts were subject to the scrutiny of the which comprises an elite group, be different? Both Auditor-General and of Parliament through the groups include judges and other eminent people as tabling of reports. I have read most of the reports members. The Law Reform Commission had published by the commission, and I have always Rowena Armstrong as a member, as will the new found them to be sound. The Act provided that the council. Eamon Moran, Greg Craven and other Attorney-General had to present copies of the people from the Attorney-General's department will reports within 14 days of receiving them. be on the council. Where is the independence there? I do not want to canvass all the work done by the The Law Reform Advisory Council will not be at commission, although the work it did on the Vic arm's length from the government. It will comprise Statutes project quickly comes to mind. I shall hand people who the Attorney-General has selected. The to the Attorney-General a leaflet advertising the advice given by the advisory council will be no availability of Victorian statutes on CD-ROM. All of better or worse, to put it nicely - I do not mean to the statutes are now available on-line in the reflect on the abilities of the members of the Parliamentary Library, the extra 50 having recently advisory council - than the advice given to been added. previous Attorneys-General by the Law Reform Commission. The Law Reform Advisory Council Mrs Wade interjected. will not be independent of the Attorney-General in the sense that she believes such bodies should be Mr COLE - Do you already have one? Why independent. didn't you have a backbencher ask you a dorothy dixer? The statutes are now on-line in the The advisory council should have been established Parliamentary Library, and the Chief Librarian will by statute to consider issues of law reform and teach members of Parliament and others how to use should have been given responsibility for the the system. handling of the Law Reform Account. Althowgh the Attorney-General claims that the Law Reform Mrs Wade interjected. Commission was not independent, evidence of its independence can be gleaned from a reading of the Mr CO LE - Aren't they going to pay the Law Reform Commission Act. The Bill and the Act government any royalties? We will not discuss why are different in a number of ways. royalties are not being paid, even though I know why. When the Attorney-General spat the dummy The Bill establishes a fund, the Law Reform and decided she did not want to go ahead with the Account, and will enable the Attorney-General to contract, the company said, ''Forget it, we will go determine who will get the money. It also ahead and do it anyway". establishes an advisory council, the members of which will be selected by the Attorney-General but Mrs Wade interjected. which will have no real statUtory power and no responsibility over the allocation of money. Its sole Mr COLE - Whose fault was that? The purpose will be to give her advice. Some of the Attorney-General said in Parliament that the project members of the advisory council are officers of her never got off the ground. Later she said it had got off department, so it can hardly be said that they will be the ground, but had not reached as high as it should independent. have. The project is now completely off the ground!

The Law Reform Commission was given the power I hope the Vie Statutes project is successful, no to create and administer any trust fund. Sections 8 matter who was responsible for the delay and how and 9 of the Act provided that members were to be much money was spent. The project is an example of appointed by Governor in Council. If the lateral thinking. Fancy putting all of the statutes on Attorney-General had a problem with some of the CD-ROM! One day the barrier formed by the rows DISTINGUISHED VISITOR

2310 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 of statutes will no longer separate the government situation that faced the Law Reform Commission, from the opposition, and we will be able to lean which had to take references from the across and get stuck into each other! Attorney-General of the day.

Parliamentarians and others will be able to call up Debate interrupted. any of the statutes. I hope, in spite of all the issues raised by the Attorney-General, when Vic Statutes is Sitting suspended 1 p.m. until 2.4 p.m. on·line in every library throughout Victoria and members of the community can call up any statute DISTINGUISHED VISITOR in a few seconds, the Law Reform Commission will finally receive some credit for the work it did on the The SPEAKER - Order! I welcome to the gallery project. I hope to avail myself of the service offered Mr Tarmo Pickner, Charter President of Saareemaa by the Parliamentary Library; and when I can afford in Estonia. Mr Pickner is responSible for foreign to, I shall buy a CD-ROM to attach to my computer relations in Estonia. He is the guest of the so that I will be able to call up statutes whenever I honourable member for Dromana, and I welcome wish. him on behalf of the House.

The Law Reform Commission was a statutory body, Honourable Members - Hear, hear! the establishment of which in 1984 was supported by both sides of the House. That can be contrasted with the support for the Attorney-General's Law Reform Advisory Council and the operation of the QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE Law Reform Account. I am not sure of the sums involved, but the opposition believes that the Law Reform Commission's budget for this year would SCRUTINY OF ACTS AND have been $750 000. REGULATIONS COMMITTEE

A specific fund will be created so that money will no Mr KENNAN (Leader of the Opposition) - I longer need to be made available by the Victoria refer to the Premier the government's decision to Law Foundation at the direction of the establish a Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Attorney-General. The Attorney-General will have Committee and to the description by the Treasurer charge of three accounts - the Leo Cussen Institute yesterday of the committee's reports as yellow peril Account, the Victoria Law Foundation Account and documents and his comments that the committee the Law Reform Account. The Attorney-General was making the government unworkable and that it may allocate up to 15 per cent of the .income from ought to be disbanded. What action will the Premier the suspense account of the Solicitors Guarantee take to ensure that the views expressed by the Fund, but she has the discretion to decide how Treasurer are consistent with government policy? much, up to 5 per cent, will be allocated to the Leo Cussen Institute Account and how much, up to Mr KENNETI (Premier) - It is very difficult to 10 per cent, will be allocated to the Victoria Law know where to start. I never thought I would be Foundation Account. The allocations will not be that publicly defending my colleague, the honourable high, because money will also be paid into the Law member for Doncaster, as strongly and vehemently as I am about to do. Suffice it to say, I think the Reform ~ccount from the income suspense account of the Solicitors Guarantee Fund. Leader of the Opposition would understand that it was not the government that set up the committee, The fund is an Attorney-General's dream, because but the Parliament. You are up to your eyeballs in it she will have some $1.5 million to dispense. as well! Members of the advisory committee can say to the Attorney-General, ''We want you to examine the Honourable members interjecting. need for speedy trials". Rather than having her department examine the issue, she can say, "All Mr KENNETI - I understood that there was right, we will do it. We will examine speedy trials," some consternation about coming to a final decision and she may dispense money to have it examined. on the chairmanship of the committee but - as in everything else - with conciliation, arbitration, That is not necessarily a bad thing. Some $1.5 million discussion, commonsense and a little direction, we will be placed in the fund, which is unlike the got the result we wanted! QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

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I was not in the House last night when the Treasurer Gordon Technical College has expanded its made his remarks. Suffice it to say that anything the operations following an agreement with the State Treasurer says carries great weight in this place, and Training Board. The Black Rock sewage works, throughout Victoria and Australia. The committee which my colleague mentioned, have been and its work also carries great weight, and the only upgraded. The BWK wool scouring plant is going common theme I can pick up is that when I first saw ahead. Those projects will ensure that the growth in the yellow peril - volume No. 1 - it had a yellow Geelong continues. front cover, so members could easily jump to that sort of conclusion. I say to the Leader of the The Coopers and Lybrand report on the operation of Opposition: I would not lose any sleep over it - I Victorian ports is in its final stages. I am sure it will would just enjoy the day! enable us to deliver greater efficiencies and make productivity gains in the port of Geelong. Perhaps GEELONG REGIONAL GROWTH PLAN the greatest reform during the past seven and a half months has been the passage of the City of Greater Mrs HENDERSON (Geelong) - Will the Geelong Bill. Its proclamation will produce a major Premier inform the House of the government's change in the area; six municipalities will be progress to date in achieving the pre-election restructured into one. On Tuesday the Minister for commitment to the Geelong regional growth plan? Local Government announced the names of the commissioners who will drive through the reform. Mr KENNETI (Premier) - I thank the honourable member for Geelong, and the The legislation is exciting; it has brought an end to honourable members for South Barwon and 81 years of deadlock. It has also provided leadership Bellarine, for their work during the past few months for the other municipalities around the State that in helping the government - and Parliament - have been writing to the Minister for Local give back to the people of Geelong a very real Government and other Ministers asking for reforms. semblance of order and hope in the rebuilding of Over the next 10 years a major restructuring of local what is, of course, Victoria's second-largest city. government will be initiated by local government's desire both for structural greater efficiency and to We are probably coming to the end of the first phase benefit of the community it is elected to serve. of what will be a long period in office for this government. That is probably best recognised based The government has particular responsibility for the on the adjustments we have had to make to the activities in Geelong, given that members from that financial position we inherited. However, beneath area were elected at the last election. I am proud of that situation and along with it, a number of reforms what we have achieved and the way in which the have been proceeding that will have a major impact people of Geelong have responded to the rapid on the quality of this State in the years to come - in change. I believe that, like us, they are excited about education, health, transport and public what the future will hold when the City of Greater administration - as well as in Geelong. Geelong is created. The people of Geelong will have an opportunity to build on the changes and increase In the short seven and a half months we have been economic activity and jobs. But, at the end of the in office, although a lot of attention has day, the change will provide greater security and, understandably been focused on the restructuring importantly, engender greater pride in the City of required by the State's financial position, the reforms Geelong. the coalition articulated before the election have steadily been carried out. LEEDS MEDIA AND COMMUNICATION SERVICES About six or seven of the major commitments we made for Geelong prior to the election had been Mr KENNAN (Broadmeadows) - I refer the carried out within our first six months of Premier to the Leeds Media row, which was government. The establishment of a Deakin described in the Sunday Age last Sunday. In light of University campus at the old wool stores in Geelong the fact that Leeds Media was the only tenderer not has received the funding necessary to bring about a accredited by the Media Council of Australia, which major building development, as well as extending. is the shadow agency that is buying space for the and moving part of the university into the city of government on behalf of Leeds Media? Geelong. QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

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Mr KENNETT (Premier) - As I explained The report reveals that Victorians paid more for yesterday, the Leader of the Opposition does not their homes and major construction projects during know what he is talking about. At this stage the the 1980s than was necessary. The report exposed contract may be signed this week, maybe next. The the lack of regulation and due process to prevent contractor is not actually buying the space. The corrupt practices in government and private people buying the space are the people to whom the developments, but particularly in the government former Labor government awarded the contract. sector, which has cost taxpayers millions of dollars. This will be a new contract, but it has yet to be The facts unearthed by the committee are alarming. finalised. The delay has been caused by our legal people - that is, the people's legal people, the I support the committee's recommendation that a Victorian Government Solicitor - who are ensuring task force be established through the agency of the that the contract is correctly drawn up. Attorney-General as a matter of urgency to investigate the evidence presented to the committee. Eventually the company will receive accreditation, The task force will help to seek out the dollars lost to which is the normal process that buying agencies go Victorian taxpayers through costly deals put in place through to obtain discounts from the media - be it during that period. All honourable members would television, press or radio - for paying their bills want to see that recovery process undertaken as within 45 days of the end of any particular month. quickly as possible. The view of the committee was That is not a difficult process. It is part of the normal that the recovery process should be similar to that process of good management. which applied in New South Wales as a result of the Gyles inquiry. We always believed the malpractice I assure the honourable member that there is no row. and the poor practices in New South Wales stopped The only row is in the minds of those sitting at the River Murray, but I regret they have moved opposite and in the minds of those who wrote the south. The committee revealed that that is its view article last Sunday. I assure the honourable member as well. that the State will be served well by the contract because it will save considerable amounts of money It is important that the special task force is set up in a way the former government never saw fit to expeditiously so that funds that should rightfully be approach the management of the total advertising in the State coffers are returned. The issues that will and promotion budget of the people of Victoria. be dealt with by the task force will include collusive tendering - some 18 companies refused to sign Rather than continually knocking, the Leader of the statutory declarations saying they have not been Opposition would be better off supporting these involved in collusive tendering, and that is a matter matters. That would lead to greater efficiency and of concern to the committee and the State. effectiveness and ultimately it would show, on this last day of the autumn sittings, that the Leader of the Other practices that will be examined include cover Opposition and his colleagues are relevant. pricing, which has become endemic, payment of unsuccessful tenderer's fees and collusive price BUILDING INDUSTRY TENDERING fixing in the areas of roofing tiles and plasterboard. I PROCESS regret those practices have extended to the labour involved in the supply of the product. That is a Mr McLELLAN (Frankston East) - As a result of matter of concern because it involves employers and the tabling of the all-party Parliamentary Economic employees. Development Committee report on corruption in the tendering process in the building industry, will the Potentially illegal practices arise from government Minister for Industry and Employment inform the tendering processes themselves. Those damning House of the government's response? concerns were brought to the attention of the people and Parliament as a result of the fine work of the Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and committee. Employment) - The government will make a full and formal response to the Parliamentary Economic Two other matters bear comment: the Development Committee. I pay tribute to the work disappointment I know committee members felt - of the committee for the way it conducted the which the government shares - that no submissions inquiry, the thoroughness of its work and the speed were received from two key players in the industry. with which it responded to the matters of concern The Trades Hall Council saw fit not to make a that I know all parties in this House share. contribution to the committee. I believe it had a QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

Thursday. 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2313 responsibility on behalf of its membership to do so. important project. It represents the redevelopment The Australian Federation of Construction of the Magistrates Court and the City Watch House, Contractors -a national group -also failed to which was commenced improperly by the previous appear. Likewise, it has done its membership a government. The present Attorney-General took disservice by not having the integrity to appear action as soon as she became aware of some of the before the committee. A number of employers also problems. In agreement with the magistrates she failed to make an appearance at that hearing after reduced the number of magistrate suites from 24 to 3 being invited by the committee to do so. and reduced the number of chambers from 44 to 35.

The committee of inquiry has done a lot of work in Those actions created a saving of $1 million in the the few short months it has been established. It has fit-out, but the government has also had to deal with uncovered and confirmed the concerns the the disgraceful financing arrangements put in place government and the community had and, through by the previous government. The only real the establishment of this task force, has put the justification for those arrangements was that the government in a position to stamp out any former government sought to circumvent Loan malpractices and to make Victoria a clean and Council restrictions. Of course that fits into a pattern decent place in which to carry out major with which this House is all too familiar. Indeed, the construction and building projects. It becomes Victorian Commission of Audit found that since increasingly relevant as the State embarks on 1985 the Victorian Labor government overspent Agenda 21 that the diseases of the 19805 are stamped against the Loan Council allocation by $3 million out in the 1990s. compared with all other State governments underspending their Loan Council allocation by EMERGENCY TEACHERS $7000 million.

Mr SANDON (Carrum) - Is the Minister for The contract was signed six days after the former Education aware that schools have so little government called the election for 3 October last confidence in the government's arrangements for the year. It was, therefore, not only an improper provision of replacement teachers that parents at arrangement designed to circumvent the Loan Knox Gardens Primary School have been officially Council but it was also entered into in breach of the told by the school that children are required to bring conventions governing the actions of a caretaker to school every day activity booklets to keep government - hardly surprising when one sees the children occupied while there are no teachers nature of the deal. It was an extremely expensive available for normal classes? leasing arrangement backed up by government guarantees. Mr HAYWARD (Minister for Education) - The Directorate of School Education has in place The present government has now renegotiated a effective procedures to ensure replacement teachers fixed-price contract which will deliver the building are available for real emergencies. I have already in 1995. The government will then purchase the said in the House that more than $2 million has been building upon the completion of its construction so put in a fund this term for emergency teachers and that the people of Victoria will pay less and will that approximately 1600 teachers are available to actually own the building. The government will pay work as emergency teachers. From the third $38.5 million for the building, a saving of $16 million term onwards schools will have their own budgets in the construction of this major project and a saving for emergency teachers so that they can manage in proportionate terms of around 30 per cent. emergency teachers themselves. In the light of the Bayside and MetTicket fiascos the NEW MAGISTRATES COURT House will not be at all surprised to find out who was responsible for this - the Leader of the Mr A. F. PLOWMAN (Benambra) - Will the Opposition. He committed the people of Victoria to Treasurer advise the House of the action the $16 million that was flushed down one of the ensuite government is taking to reduce the cost to taxpayers toilets to no advantage of the people of Victoria. The of the new Magistrates Court project? government is not prepared to endorse that sort of scandalous waste to undermine the Australian Loan Mr STOCKDALE (Treasurer) - Only one Council's restrictions. It has renegotiated the deal: honourable member is at peril from the answer to $15 million has been clawed back on the building this question! The new Magistrates Court is an QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

2314 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 and $1 million has been clawed back on the fit-out, a I was told, "Of course, Minister, there is more". I saving of $16 million or 30 per cent. said, ''There couldn't be". They said, ''Minister, which story would you like; do you want one about V/LINE FREIGHT COSTS stuff-up Steve?"

Mr THOMSON (Pascoe Vale) - Will the The SPEAKER - Order! The Chair would like Minister for Public Transport confirm that the one about tow trucks. government is considering abolishing the current exemptions on V/Line freight charges for charitable Mr BROWN - I was then told, ''What about the organisations freighting food parcels, clothing and story of the disappearing tow trucks that were other items for distribution to disadvantaged tip-trucks?" Naturally this engendered a little Victorians? interest when it was mentioned. I was advised that, at the height of the MetTicket fiasco when hundreds Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - I of trams were stranded in the centre of the City of thank the honourable member for his question Melbourne nose to nose and one could not cross the because it will surely be his swan song for the road in places like Bourke Street, a decision was session. He will certainly not be back as shadow taken by the then Minister, the current Leader of the Minister for Public Transport when the next session Opposition, that as the unions would never resumes. negotiate and cooperate with any government --

This issue was placed before me in acknowledgment Mr McNamara - They do now. of the terrible financial mess in which the Labor government left the Public Transport Corporation. The SPEAKER - Order! The Minister will This government is conscious of the excellent work address the Chair and ignore interjections. done by such organisations and will ensure that those organisations, which on merit are worthy of Mr BROWN - The only way to get the trams out continuing government support, will receive the of the centre of the city was to tow them back to the same support as was always the case under former depots. Liberal governments. He had another flash idea: Jack decided, ''We will PTC TOW TRUCKS telephone some tow truck companies and get them in the still of the night to turn up unexpectedly, Mr FINN (Tullamarine) - Will the Minister for catch everybody off guard and tow the trams back to Public Transport advise the House whether the their depots". For some inexplicable reason private Public Transport Corporation has purchased any enterprise was not prepared to play ball and the tow trucks; if so, why were they purchased and will then government could not get one firm to agree to he authorise the purchase of more tow trucks? tow the stranded trams back to the depots.

Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - I Guess what this luminary, this learned gentleman was talking to the staff of the Public Transport decided to do? "Why don't we buy some of our Corporation about the amazing incompetence of the own?", he suggested. I thought my staff were former Labor government and was saying that when kidding me, but I was told he read a magazine those guys were in office what had transpired in entitled Deals on Wheels and there were two beauties transport was really something to behold - you advertised for the give-away price of $119000. could write a book about it. I also mentioned the MetTicket fiasco and all that involved. We talked One could imagine the telephone call, having seen about when Melbourne was brought to its knees for the advertisement in Deals on Wheels: I am sure the some weeks when the trams were stranded in the gentleman on the telephone would have said, '1s city and people could not cross Bourke Street at the this really the current Labor government phoning; is same time as the International Olympic Committee this really the PTC controlled by the learned delegates were in Melbourne and wondering what gentleman?" When he established it was true, no the hell was going on in this State. They could not doubt he said, ''Have we got a deal for you!". understand why the trams were stranded in the streets of such a fine city. Deals on Wheels is a magazine that advertises trucks for sale in Victoria. It was a Daylesford dealer, Daylesford Truck Sales Pty Ltd, that received a LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2315 cheque for $119 000 for the two trucks. In what was audit investigate in full what happened with this then described to me as sensitive circumstances, a latest fiasco. private contractor was engaged to drive these two tip-trucks that were filled with ballast to be used as Tomorrow I will announce the outcome of the tow trucks. However, the PTC was unable to tender process to get a firm to conduct the audit. The provide the proper paperwork to me to find out the name of that firm will be known to Victorians arrangements for that hire. I am advised that the tomorrow. arrangement was such with the firm that drove the trucks could use them at any time it wished for LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE private work. That arrangement was entered into in (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL lieu of payment so there would be no invoices from the PTC for the usage of those vehicles. That is an Second reading extraordinary situation! Debate resumed. The problem, however, was that the tow trucks were in fact tip-trucks and were used for only two days to Mr COLE (Melbourne) - As I was saying before move a few trams. The PTC was then surprised to the debate was interrupted, to a large extent, with an find that the tip-trucks-cum-tow trucks could not be additional sum of money, the Bill provides for funds located. They had effectively disappeared. previously given to the former Victorian Law Reform Commission, which had a separate charter An Honourable Member - Vanished! that was statutorily based to carry out law reform, to be transferred directly to a fund. The Mr BROWN - Correct. So far as the PTC was Attorney-General will decide whether to spend concerned they had disappeared off the face of the those funds on law reform or whatever; the account earth. I assume nobody in the government wanted is not specific to law reform and could be used for anybody to find out about the vanishing tow trucks. anyone of a number of things. The crucial point is I have made inquiries and found out what happened that it will be used at the discretion of the to the two trucks and, surprise, surprise, they went Attorney-General. to Twilight Lakes. I have discovered that Twilight Lakes is the company that purchased the two trucks The debate about public funds is also crucial. At the that the PTC had lost for a period. time of the demise of the Law Reform Commission the Attorney-General said that the funds involved Mr McNamara interjected. were public funds. At the time that was a misleading comment; it was intended to invoke a response that Mr BROWN - Deals on Wheels had disappeared taxpayers' funds per se were being used to fund the into the twilight. The tragedy of this situation is that Law Reform Commission and somehow the Law Twilight bought the trucks for $76 000. The Reform Commission was engaged in spreading tip-trucks-cum-tow trucks were purchased for largess at the expense of the taxpayer. That was not $119000 on the quiet. Nobody in the PTC could find true. The Auditor-General was required to audit the out where they had gone but they were sold for Law Reform Commission. There is not much $76 000. The two days work for those two tow trucks difference in respect to the public funds argument. cost Victorians $43 000. If honourable members think there is a whiff or a bit of a stench about the We believe the Law Reform Commission was using MetTicket fiasco they are right. public funds appropriately, but they were not taxpayers' funds. Yet, the Attorney-General now I indicated to the House last week that the says, ''No, these are not taxpayers' funds, they are department will carry out an internal audit into the public funds. It is not the same type of impost on the $63 million worth of scratch tickets that were community that taxation would be". We agree, but shredded and the like. This latest episode -no we still say they are public funds and, for that doubt there will be more as I continue to get into reason, exactly the same pOSition applies here as it - will also be referred to the internal audit. applied to the Law Reform Commission - the body is supposed to be an independent arm of We know that the two tip-trucks cost the taxpayers government. That was the reason for sacking the $43 000 for two days work. There are no invoices to Law Reform Commission. bill the PTC for the work. I will have the internal LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

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The Bill is clearly about law reform and the Law offer not taken up? Why is the Melbourne Reform Advisory Council, yet a Law Reform University involved and not Monash or La Trobe Account is being created which is totally subservient universities? to government, has no independence whatsoever from government and is totally at the discretion of Another important issue is the administrative cost of the Attorney-General. Not even the Law Reform law reform. If the entire amount of this money is AdviSOry Council which I referred to before and spent, it will be arguable that it is more than the cost which is mentioned in the second-reading speech of the Law Reform Commission because the Bill has any say or authority over how the funds are increases the overall cost that could go into the Law spent. The Attorney-General has the audacity to say, Reform Account. That may mean not as much 'We got rid of the Law Reform Commission because money is spent on administration because work will it was not independent of government and in future be given out to consultants after the law reform law reform will be independent". priorities are determined by the Attorney-General. However, law reform in this State will cost more in That principle has gone well and truly out the public funds than the costs associated with the Law window. Public funds will be used by the Reform Commission. Attorney-General to determine where money will be spent - we hope on law reform, but there is no That is not to say there will not be value for money, guarantee - because under the proposed legislation but it will cost more. I argue that the Law Reform the money does not have to be spent in that area. Commission brought in a whole range of people. As The Attorney-General can spend it almost where she I said in my last speech, the Who's Who of likes, although the Auditor-General may say, 'We Australian law reform was involved with the Law don't think it should be spent here because it is not Reform Commission. Many people from different in the spirit of the Act". backgrounds were involved: some of the best lawyers, sociologiSts and criminologists - the best The Melbourne University law school will be given a people we could muster - were involved. Their considerable sum of money to act as secretariat. That reports are exemplary. I cannot see that the new also concerns me. As we have three principal law process will attract people with the same degree of schools, Melbourne University, Monash University talent. In fact it will become a type of consultancy, and La Trobe University, consultation should take with the Attorney-General deciding who will get the place on which of those law schools will act as the jobs, unlike the Law Reform Commission, which secretariat for the Law Reform Advisory Council. involved different types of judges.

I understand the government received offers that the That is not to say the new system cannot be a good job would be done free of charge, but those offers thing. It may well be that the Attorney-General acts were rejected and the Melbourne University law in a consultative and pluralist fashion rather than school got the job, which may cost money. I shall be just simply as an Attorney-General. Then it would interested to learn from the Attorney-General how be possible for a whole range of people to be much the secretariat will cost. Let us not be too shrill involved in broad areas of law reform. The process about it. The opposition accepts that it is appropriate is not independent of the Attorney-General and little to have a secretariat; it has always said that prospect exists of that happening as of fact or administrative backup is reqUired. standing. It will only happen if the Attorney-General chooses to adopt an enlightened position. The Professor Sally Walker will be in charge of the pressure will be on the Attorney-General to cut back secretariat and I have no problem with her doing the departmental budgets. She will push money out to job. I am sure she will do it well. The Parliamentary policy reforms through this fund. That was the Law Reform Committee met with her, but I was accusation made by the Attorney-General about the otherwise engaged at the time on another of the Law Reform Commission, although the accusation Attorney-General's numerous Bills and could not was not correct. get to the meeting. All reports are that she is very enthusiastic and capable and we could not do any The Attorney-General had a power to give better or worse. We have no problems with her references to the Law Reform Commission, which it doing the job or with the Melbourne University. I had to follow up. And it did. This is not a case of a am only concerned about accountability in respect of reference; it is a case of, '1 am going to make a funds. That is the issue. If Monash University decision on criminal trials" which could be argued is offered to do the job without charge, why was that the province of the policy research section of the LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

Thursday. 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2317 department. That is the very real problem that we last night. The Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations will confront. Committee indicated that certain powers cannot be delegated to the Treasurer because some rights The law reform question must be taken in context. would be violated as a result. I do not know that I Reform of the law should never take second place to agree with the committee on that point. However, it other issues. It is imperative to have an ongoing is acting as part of the Parliamentary process; it does process of reform and to be constantly ready to not form part of the law reform process. review it. I refer to the not-so-powerful Law Reform The Bill provides for a larger sum of money to be Committee - chaired by the Honourable James taken from the Solicitors Guarantee Fund and put Guest with his dog Rumpole - of which I am a into a fund that can be used by the Attorney-General member. I deserve to be criticised for comments I at her whim and will. It will not necessarily be ·have made about references to the work of the directed towards law reform. Given the current committee. The other day the Honourable James economic climate, I am concerned that although the Guest could not chair the meeting because he was Crimes (Criminal Trials) Bill will, it is hoped, reduce attending a funeral. As the deputy, I chaired the the problem of the expense of criminal trials, the meeting at which unanimous agreement was money, which could amount to $1.5 million, will not reached on the references that had been received. go towards addressing the backlog in or providing Members of the committee agreed that the extra legal aid. references were important and, as difficult matters had to be considered, much more time was needed Law reform is important but priorities must be in which to consider them. I do not know whether balanced. If the money directed to the former Law the extension of time has been granted. I hope it has. Reform Commission had gone to legal aid, which had a shortage of funds, a problem would have been When the references were first given to the Law reduced. It may be a cynical view of law reform, but Reform Committee I said that it was a waste of time some of the money should have been directed and the references were a political stunt. It has towards assisting in the provision of legal aid rather turned out that they are not. The references are, than being directed to law reform projects. firstly, restitution of the proceeds of crime, an issue I know will be of interest to you, Mr Acting Speaker. The all-powerful Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations' The second reference is the corporations issue which Committee forms an interesting component of the is a difficult matter and is becoming more important tripartite arrangement established for law reform by every day. Both the references are major law reform the Attorney-General when she dismissed the Law issues. I am concerned that they cannot be properly Reform Commission. I cannot criticise the addressed by a Parliamentary committee. Attorney-General for not having a plan, and one Corporations law is an extremely difficult area. For certainly cannot criticise her for not carrying it out. I example, one must consider what should happen if a just disagree with the Attorney-General's plan. The person goes broke and sets up the same business arrangement consists of the Scrutiny of Acts and down the road. How can that be prevented? Should Regulations Committee, the Law Reform Committee it be prevented? What sorts of mechanisms can be and the Council of the Law Institute of Victoria introduced in such a case and how can they be which has responsibility for the Law Reform introduced on a national basis when State Account. The Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Parliament is considering the issue? As I said, it is a Committee is a committee of the Parliament and complex area of law. does not, strictly speaking, fit into law reform. It considers and becomes involved in many things, The third important reference relates to wills. I have some of which it should perhaps not be involved in. prepared thousands of wills and I am amazed at It has been established as part of the Parliamentary how much reliance one has on experts in the field, process and is not part of the law reform process per even if one is a trained lawyer. se. As I said during the debate on the Law Reform The charter for law reform refers to consideration of Commission (Repeal) Bill, the best thing that a Law rights and human rights that have been violated. Reform Committee can do is offer a bipartisan Certain human rights were violated by the Barley approach to controversial issues. A bipartisan Marketing Bill and one can go right across the approach to deregulation of the legal profession or spectrum to what the Treasurer quite rightly said to Corporations Law will be a significant LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

2318 ASSEMBLY Thursday. 20 May 1993 contribution to law reform that cannot be made by Our reasoned amendment is the way to go to reform anyone else because a Parliamentary committee is the law in this State. I could go on, but I have taken the only process by which a purely political up enough of Parliament's time. I feel strongly about approach can be taken to such issues in a structured the issue. The reforms to the legal profession sense. However, the Parliamentary committee foreshadowed in the second-reading speech by the system does not provide the type -- Attorney-General and the accountability of the funds of the Law Institute of Victoria have been in Ms Kimer - Or process. issue at times. All honourable members have received letters about the accountability of the Law Mr COLE - It does not provide the type of work Institute of Victoria, and this Bill goes some way or process that the former Law Reform Commission towards addressing that matter. provided. The Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee does not undertake law reform. It is an The fact that there will be no independent law important part of the Parliamentary process, reform but law reform at the whim of the certainly from the opposition's point of view, Attorney-General with a substantial fund - which because it scrutinises government business. will go beyond that of the Law Reform However, the Law Reform Committee has an Commission - is a terrible way to go. It is important role to play as well. As I said, I recant inconsistent of the Attorney-General to have her some of the comments I made in the past because own fund when she said the biggest problem with the references to the Law Reform Committee are the Law Reform Commission was that it was not worthwhile. As I said also, the issues that are the independent of government, that it was only a subject of the references are difficult because much policy section of the government, when that is work is required to be done and much reliance has exactly what will happen in this case. The to be placed on experts. Fortunately, the committee opposition strongly believes the Law Reform could not have done better in appointing staff. Account is inappropriate and a complete contradiction of what the Attorney-General said last Another aspect of the law reform process is the year about the Law Reform Commission: it beggars direction of money to consultants and other experts. belief that she could ever have been so critical of the The work of the Law Reform Committee is not the Law Reform Commission. same as that of an organisation driven by investigation into reform of the law and so attracting Mr Perton interjected. a range of people. I disagree with the system proposed by the Attorney-General because it is not Mr COLE - The honourable member for as good as the one used by the former Law Reform Doncaster is asking if I have anything more to say Commission, although it is a good system inasmuch about law reform. as it has established the Law Reform Committee. The committee has a better focus than the former Mr Perton - Anything positive. Legal and Constitutional Committee, because it will consider law reform. Mr CO LE - Unfortunately the honourable member for Doncaster has not been here during the I am concerned that much of the good work that was course of the debate. I think I made some positive almost entirely bipartisan - the codification of comments about the Attorney-General. I could go on contract law, plain English and other matters - will forhours-- not proceed as it should have proceeded. Without a statutory authority in charge of law reform there is a Mr Perton - Go on. danger that it will be undertaken on an ad hoc submission basis. As was suggested to the Mr CO LE - You might be in more trouble than Attorney-General, the Law Reform Committee you already are. I reiterate the opposition's position. should forthwith undertake all the unfinished The opposition supports the reasoned amendment. business of the former Law Reform Commission. A retrospective analysis should be undertaken of the Ms KIRNER (Williamstown) - The debate is priorities and of what has already been achieved, important because it goes to the heart of the process even if it is not to be announced publicly. The by which law reform is achieved. During the time of analysis should cover the work that has been done the opposition's term in government the inclusive to date to see whether it can be implemented. process of law reform was one of the key distinguishing features between our government's LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

Thursday. 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2319 progressive methods of law reform and the solutions which is part of ensuring equal conservative methods of this government. What opportunity. distinguished our view, at least in two areas, was that we saw law reform as required integration of all The second group was the Victorian Community the matters that affected the people for whom law Council against Violence, headed by Judy Dixon. reform is implemented. Consequently, law reform TIlat council is still in existence in the was seen as being owned not simply by the Attorney-General's department - at least I hope it is Attorney-General but by the people. still in existence because it is an important committee. We also included the Law Reform The people of Victoria will remember this coalition Commission. Finally, a very important group was government for a number of things, but they will not established to assist with the implementation of the forgive the government for its failure to allow the rape law reform recommendations of the Law community to make or share in the decisions about Reform Commission. It was known as the advisory its future. The two clearest examples of that failure group on rape. If that group is not still in existence, I so far are the peremptory closure of schools and the would like the Attorney-General to consider setting abolition of the Law Reform Commission. I do not up a similar group where those issues can be deny the commitment of the Attorney-General to worked on by women and for women and therefore taking action in the law area. Some of the reforms be eventually owned by women. are changes and some of the changes are reforms. In a recent adjournment debate I complimented the The Labor government had a women's advisory Attorney-General on her ability and determination committee on rape which was not a formal to stand up for women on issues of gender and the committee but which had all the reports of the Law law. However, I ask the Attorney-General to Reform Commission, six or more of them, referred consider carefully that she may be doing only half of to it for working through and agreement. If the what is needed. Attorney-General remembers - and I am sure she does because she took an active part in these I have, as the shadow Attorney-General said, no debates - we could not actually get agreement criticism of the excellent people who are on the new among all the women's organisations until they Law Advisory Council headed by Chief Justice were brought together to determine the quality and Phillips of the Supreme Court of Victoria. I do not content of the Act. believe the advisory council, together with what might be called, to paraphrase the Attorney-General, The Labor government took an inclusive and a bunch of amateurs on the Parliamentary Law integrated approach to law reform. The most Reform Committee or the Scrutiny of Acts and disappointing thing for me and many women in this Regulations Committee, are the groups to ensure State on the abolition of the Law Reform that women are confident that a key issue of law Commission was that it was about to undertake reform - gender and the law - is taken seriously what I believe should be a very important inquiry and considered appropriately in this State. for this State, the inquiry into gender and the law. When I found that the commission was going to be In order to deal with this issue appropriately there abolished and the Attorney-General was setting up should be a representative body and an inclusive in its place an advisory council and a Parliamentary process whereby women feel they have a say in their committee, which is her right to do, I decided I own right and not simply through a Minister or a would write to her and ask her to refer the matter to Parliamentary committee or an advisory council what the honourable member for Doncaster which does not have any statutory independence. considers is the all-important Parliamentary Law Reform Committee. When we were in government we made sure we had a broad, representative group of committees I suggested that the terms of reference for the reporting on these issues so tha t each sector of the committee, because the Law Reform Commission no community felt that it could have a real say. The longer existed, would include the attitudes of the Legal and Constitutional Committee was in magistracy to women in the law and women existence at the time, but the government did not involved in cases - didn't that turn out to be regard that committee as enough and certainly not prophetic -educational requirements of the as the fount of all wisdom; it was an important magistracy and judiciary, and that was also committee but did not have the ownership of prophetic; gender bias in the legal system, which is ongoing; and appointments in the legal profession, LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

2320 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 which I know the Minister is looking at. The frame an inquiry such as I am suggesting. I am sure opposition will congratulate her on the day that she Jocelynne Scutt and Kate Gilmour and other women appoints a female judge. previously on the Law Reform Commission and the advisory committee on rape would also contribute. My strong recommendation to the Attorney-General is to refer the matter to a committee for inquiry with It is important to involve the chief justices because a steering committee of women well versed in the reform of the law should come from within as well subject that could work with the Parliamentary as without. As with any profession, when people committee. I know the Federal government in its like me and others are critical of members of the announcement on the national agenda for women legal profeSSion, they tend to close ranks and defend has given a reference on gender and the law to themselves. I cannot help wondering whether the Justice Elizabeth Evatt, on which she is now doing sudden spate of outrageous and biased judges' preliminary work. I know that the issue of education comments on women is not just because it is being of judges has been referred to the appropriate board, reported at last, because people are sensitive about and that is useful, although I am not confident it will this issue, but because judges feel that they have to go where women want it to go, but it is a step in the comment to justify their position. These appalling right direction. attitudes - it may be just of some judges - are a worrying development in our judicial system. To Given Victoria's reputation for law reform, which is begin the necessary change of attitudes, it is progressive in terms of its processes and its important that the criticism comes not only from outcomes, we should not simply rely on the without but from within, and that judges themselves Commonwealth inquiry but we should have our do something about meeting that criticism. own review which ought to be conducted by either a specific committee or the Parliamentary committee To begin with judges need to get the definition of with a reference group. Such a group should be sexism right. It is often said, "Are these judges being supported by the group of people who were on the sexist?" People sometimes answer, "No, they really Law Reform Commission and the committee that like women!" An appropriate definition of sexism, of advised the commission on rape law reform, which judges should be aware is: because women would then feel they actually owned the process and the outcome. Sexism - the making of unjustified (or at least unsupported) assumptions about individual I am not raising this issue of a Victorian review of capabilities, interests, goals and social roles, solely on gender and the law in a point-scoring, political way; the basis of sex differences - is as easily discernible in I raise it because, as the shadow Attorney-General contemporary judicial opinions as racism ever was. said, the issue should be dealt with in a bipartisan way, here in Victoria as well as nationally. Women Given that definition it should not be hard for judges want it dealt with in a bipartisan way and they have or courts to recognise where judges are being sexist. demonstrated this - we could not get agreement Yet, some judges still say, as Judge Bland did, that from the Attorney-General initially, but I hope we when a women says no she really means yes. He will eventually. In the meantime women have taken says"a woman" as though there is some difference matters into their own hands and, with Deakin between yes and no according to gender. I believe University, are holding a seminar on 8 and 9 June to Mr Justice Phillips and Mr Justice Ma1colm do a examine the issue of gender and the law. The great service when they are prepared to say openly, principal speaker at that seminar will be Kathleen 'We have a degree of gender bias in our judicial Mahoney, the Professor of Law at the University of system and we must do all we can to remove it." Calgary, Canada, who has done Significant work on this issue and who will make an enormous Justice Elizabeth Evatt, in her foreword to the book contribution to our understanding of gender and the written by Regina Graycar and Jenny Morgan law. entitled The Hidden Gender of LAw, states:

I am pleased also that one of the key contributors to Australian lawyers can thank Reg Graycar and Jenny this debate is Mr Justice David Malcolm, the Chief Morgan for exploring these hidden areas of gender bias Justice of Western Australia. He, like Mr Justice in the law and exposing them for our attention. Phillips, the Chief Justice of Victoria, has taken a Sometimes no more is needed than to expose what great interest in the issue. Those two people would judges have actually said about women. For example: be very helpful in assisting the Attorney-General to many a married woman seeks work. She does so when LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

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the children grow up and leave the house. She does it, violence - pinching, squeezing and cuddling your not solely to earn money, helpful as it is: but to fill her wife! time with useful occupation, rather than sit idly at home waiting for her husband to return. The devil Mr Cole - What about a bit of 4 x 2? tempts those who have nothing to do. Ms KIRNER - I wonder what would be the It seems we should be grateful that the husband has reaction if the same action was taken by a woman, plenty to do. Obviously the wife is more involved in not that I intend to propose that. resisting the devil! That is an example of judicial attitudes. As the Attorney-General has pointed out, there is the opportunity for a bad judgment to be overturned The same book introduces us to the writing of through a proper appeal process, and that is very feminist jurists, who have thrown new light on old important. There were appeals to the judgments of concepts and revealed clearly the failure of the legal Justices Bollen and O'Bryan. Nevertheless my system to acknowledge let alone accept that there essential point remains that because the Law Reform could be another way to see these things. Justice Commission has been abolished its intention to Evatt continues: conduct a thorough investigation of gender in law has gone by the by, but we still need the This analysis brings to light a society permeated by investigation. gender bias - The Attorney-General now has in her hands the not simply a court system, but a society- opportunity to say, ''The government intends to have a thorough look at this matter of gender and a society in which women's role, women's work and the law". It could be done by way of the Minister's women's contribution are not given their full value, advisory council or a Parliamentary committee with and which has failed to protect women from male a womens' reference group attached to either. Such a violence and oppression. The message is that the legal group could include women - not just legal women system incorporates this bias and helps to perpetuate it. but women from the Centres Against Sexual Assault and other agencies. The Attorney-General has an Recently at least five cases have clearly helped to opportunity and an obligation to get her act together perpetuate that gender bias. For most people the on this matter. most appalling case was the judgment by Justice O'Bryan that a woman could not have been I welcome the new-found interest of the Herald Sun traumatised by being raped because she was in rape as a broader issue. I have been appalled in unconscious. That was a startling judgment. Almost the past by the view of rape in the Herald Sun; it was the entire community reacted to that - obviously only interested in sensational cases. That could be that judgment was based on the judge's attitude to said of print media for that matter, but I welcome women. In some ways the Hakkopian case reflected the new-found interest of the Herald Sun under its a more subtle gender bias but was equally insulting new editor, Steve Harris. The previous editor had to women and equally lacking in understanding that other attitudes to rape issues. rape is a violation of a person's integrity, independence and decision making - and that is I welcome the publication of statements by women not acceptable. who are prepared to and who feel strongly enough to say, "Rape happened to me. It should not happen Whatever a person's employment - be it a to other women. I want change". However I prostitute, a politician or a journalist - rape stands worry - and I have said this to the editor of the as a violation of whoever it is inflicted on, whether Herald Sun - that such articles do not go far enough male or female. Regardless of the reason, I welcome if they are run because they are about matters of the fact that the recent statements by judges have discussion for the moment. They do not get to the been publicised. Some of the more conservative or breadth and depth of the issue in a way which less understanding judges now feel they have to represents not only law but also attitudes and social explain what they meant. Justice Bollen made the provisions for women. situation even worse when he tried to explain what he had meant. In explanation he said that he didn't There are not many ways that this issue can be condone violence, he meant the normal kind of tackled thoroughly. Therefore the Attorney-General could well pick up the intention of the Herald Sun. LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

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Although the opposition disagreed with the run inquiry would enable these women to say, Sentencing (Amendment) Bill and with indefinite "There is someone who is prepared to listen to me, and cumulative sentencing, I appreciate that the there are people who understand; I can say what I Attorney-General has increased sentences for violent want to say without threats to me, my family or my sexual crimes. However, it is not enough to address future". sentencing and it is not enough to ensure that women's services remain, and I hope the I return to the words of Justice Elizabeth Evatt in her Attorney-General, as the Minister responsible for foreword to The Hidden Gender of LAw: Women's Affairs, ensures that that happens. The women's movement has already generated much What is needed is an in-depth examination of all the necessary law reform in Australia. Getting down to the issues. It might seem a bit strange that, as a member entrenched bias, however, is no easy task. While it is of the opposition, I am putting this so quietly and hard to change the system from outside, operating politely. But as the Bill actually gives the inside it causes a dilemma for women who are called Attorney-General the money and the overall control on to act in accordance with the established rules and and as there is no Law Reform Commission to hierarchies of that system - suggests its own references, I suggest to the Attorney-General that there is no better way for her and perhaps hierarchies is one of the things that the to use some of the fund than to have a proper gender in law inquiry should look at - investigation of gender in law. I am not absolutely certain that that is one of the powers of the Act, but I to compete with and behave in the same way as men, believe it is and I am sure the Attorney-General will and to take part in the essentially combative approach tell me that during her reply to the second-reading of the legal process. debate. The next sentence is important: Given all that has happened in this session of Parliament and given that the Attorney-General is in The twin dangers of either absorbing the culture and the position of having had a good deal of legislation ignoring its bias, or of totally rejecting its insensitivity passed through the House, she can consider the have to be overcome if a genuine attempt is to be made issue of "what next", and I hope she seriously to bring about a fundamental change in the institution considers the need for a Victorian inquiry into and its values. gender and the law. An inquiry is necessary not simply because of the decisions of judges, the The Law Reform Commission and the process that renewed interest of people such as the editor of the was in place, including the use of the Solicitors Herald Sun or disappointment of the community that Guarantee Fund, enabled a process that was able to the Law Reform Commission was abandoned; it is direct us towards cultural change. I believe the necessary because it is not possible to change the commission did that well. culture and the power in relationships between males and females unless those relationships are I acknowledge the Minister's right to set up a considered carefully, legally, SOCially, different set of institutions, if that is what she wishes environmentally and economically in a full inquiry. to do; but I do not believe what she now has in place is sufficient to do what the Law Reform Commission I would not suggest that it be an inquiry that simply did or to undertake an inquiry into gender in law. sits in a room, but that it should be an inquiry that However, I ask the Minister, now that she has most acts like Parliamentary inquiries usually act and of her changes in place, to go ahead with a goes out to the regions and listens to people. thoroughgoing inquiry by which Victoria can establish its continuing commitment to equity for I suggest by doing that -listening to people and, if women and continue its reputation as a leader on necessary, taking submissions in confidence - the law reform. group chosen by the Minister, it is to be hoped in consultation with the opposition, may start to Dr COGHILL (Werribee) - In opening my strengthen women, particularly women in rural remarks I generally endorse the remarks of the areas, who face an even more difficult task in being honourable members for Melbourne and confident. It is difficult for these women to say no to Williamstown. I was particularly interested in how violence or demand justice because in a small their contributions touched on the role to be played community that often rebounds on them. A properly by the Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

Thursday. 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2323 in the review of the Equal Opportunity Act. I am a considers and by the Legislative Assembly in its member of the committee and I can assure dealings that that financial privilege exists, is to be honourable members that the committee will be respected and is not to be questioned. That can be taking seriously its reference to review the Act and confirmed in a number of ways. However, in the will deal with it in the most competent and absence of any further resolution by the Legislative professional manner of which it is capable. Assembly or further legislation it resides with the Speaker of the day to interpret that financial I will certainly pay heed to the comments made in privilege on behalf of the House and to rule on it. the course of the debate about the capacity of such a committee to undertake such a review in the manner There are really two bases for the financial privilege members would wish. I will direct those comments of the Legislative Assembly. One is the body of to the attention of both the full committee and the precedent which, in Victoria's case, arises from subcommittee dealing with the specific reference so actions that occurred last century. The second is the that they may have regard to the comments that codification of the financial privilege, which is have been made. contained in section 62 of the Constitution Act 1975.

The committee has tentatively set aside a large I am aware from my study of the matter that this number of afternoons during the winter recess for issue was carefully reviewed when the Constitution public hearings in relation to the reference, having Act 1975 was being prepared and during its already received a large number of submissions on progress through Parliament. The issue has been it. The committee will hope to make a timely, reviewed and considered in relatively recent times. comprehensive and professional report on the reference with which it has been provided. Prior to the Bill coming before the House my understanding is that the most recent occasion on I will spend my limited time on the issue raised in which the financial privilege of the Legislative the point of order concerning the admissibility of the Assembly-- Bill when it was read a first time in this House on Tuesday, 18 May. In doing so I do not wish or intend Mrs WADE (Attorney-General) - On a point of to express dissent from the ruling made by order, Mr Acting Speaker, this is the Legal Mr Speaker in respect of the admissibility of the Bill, Profession Practice (Guarantee Fund) Bill. The but wish to canvass the issues that are important honourable member for Werribee is addressing a and that have tended to be glossed over, and to urge totally different issue, one on which the Speaker has that clarification be provided on those issues. already ruled. No objection would be taken to his referring to it in passing, but if he intends to use his It is important, particularly for the longer-term time in the debate merely to speak on a totally functioning of Parliament, that there be a clear different issue he is out of order. understanding of the financial privilege of the Legislative Assembly and the implications of that for Or COG HILL (Werribee) - On the point of the functioning of the entire government - that is, order, Mr Acting Speaker, the point I am addressing the two Houses of Parliament, the Governor of is the very basis of this Bill and the constitutional Victoria and the system of government operating in issues that surround it. Mr Acting Speaker, the the State. Speaker has ruled on this matter and I have made it clear that I have no intention of expressing dissent It is well established histOrically in Victoria and has from his ruling, but his ruling has raised important been acknowledged that ultimately it is for the issues that should be canvassed. I certainly intend to Legislative Assembly to define and assert its relate my remarks to the provisions of the Bill and financial privilege. As most honourable members the principal Act as I develop my argument. would be aware, during the early life of the Victorian Parliament, particularly in the last century, The ACTING SPEAKER (Mr Cooper) - Order! the Upper House was frequently at loggerheads It is within the scope of the debate for the with the Lower House and the issue of the financial honourable member to address the issue in passing. privilege of the Lower House was from that time So long as the point relates to the general matters accepted by the Legislative Council. contained in the Bill, I will not uphold the point of order, but I direct the honourable member's It has generally been acknowledged by the attention to the fact that he can refer to the matter Legislative Council in the Bills that it admits and only in passing. LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

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Or COG HILL - As I was saying in passing, Constitution Act. The honourable member for when the issue was previously raised it concerned Werribee has now gone beyond the question of a the Coroners Bill proposed to be introduced by the passing reference and is now canvassing that issue. Attorney-General of the day, who was a member of He is out of order in doing so and I suggest he deal the Legislative Council, into the Legislative Council, with the measures contained in the Bill. basically for convenience because the sponsoring Minister would obviously find it much easier to deal Or COG HILL - Obviously I am not about to with the Bill at its introduction than would a challenge your ruling, Sir, and it will probably be to Minister in another House, no matter how the disadvantage of the House that it will be unable competent that Minister. to have the full extent of this letter available to it. Be that as it may, the point about the Bill before the On that occasion it was proposed to include in the House is that it is a public Bill relating to a public Bill a provision to establish an institute of forensic Act and it relates to the finances of an institute science. An opinion was sought from Mr John established by the Legal Profession Practice Act. It Finemore, QC, then recently retired as Chief refers to the Solicitors Guarantee Fund established Parliamentary Counsel. That opinion has not been by statute -in other words, a public body. When made available but it is relevant that I quote from a proclaimed it will establish the Law Reform letter provided to me by the table of the House when Account, which will therefore be a statutory account I sought some further information about section 62 under the direct and personal control of the of the Constitution as it might apply to the Bill. Attorney-General, as argued at some length and appropriately by the honourable member for The advice that was provided to me is headed Melbourne. "Previous advice obtained relating to the financial privileges of the Legislative Assembly" and states: The first point about the Bill is that it deals with public statutory bodies' funds and accounts and Legal advice was sought from Mr John Finemore, QC, deals with what the Attorney-General has in November 1985 relating to the effects of sections previously conceded to be public funds. It deals 62-64 of the Constitution Act 1975 on the Coroners Bill. with an imposition on moneys of the fund, the The advice given by Mr Finemore can be summarised Solicitors Guarantee Fund, to appropriate those as follows: funds not for the Consolidated Fund but nonetheless for the use of the Attorney-General for the The Legislative Assembly, like the House of commissioning of law reform works. A number of Commons, maintains its claim to its financial provisions of the Bill make it clear that it is dealing privileges by refusing to take into consideration with public funds and applying them for a public measures which are initiated in the Council in purpose through public statutory bodies. breach of the privileges of the Legislative Assembly. Mr Finemore knew of no recent cases of The core of the admissibility of the Bill, which was Bills being laid aside by the Assembly because raised in the point of order - and again I emphasise during the last century the Legislative Council has that I am not challenging the ruling on the point of always accepted the existence and propriety of the order - is whether the imposition on the fund is Assembly's claim to this privilege. something which flows to the Consolidated Fund. It Mr Finemore noted that the extent of the privilege is not clear to me that section 62 of the Constitution claimed in Victoria is in some ways not as wide as Act is limited to impositions which flow to the that claimed by the House of Commons, in that it Consolidated Fund. I am in no position, as I am no does not extend to local rate measures or to more than a bush lawyer, to challenge the Speaker's matters not directly affecting the consolidated ruling on that point, and I do not intend to-do so. revenue. If another ruling had been given by the Speaker it In Victoria, the privilege has always been claimed might have led to another mechanism being used in in respect of legislation authorising the disposal of Victoria to circumvent this problem, and that might Crown lands -- have been used by the Attorney-General in 1985 in The ACTING SPEAKER - Order! I have now respect of the Coroners Bill. A procedure used by the come to the conclusion that the honourable member House of Lords and accepted by the House of for Werribee is dealing with a matter ruled upon by Commons at Westminster is something that should the Speaker on 18 May on the honourable member's be considered by the Attorney-General as perhaps point of order in regard to section 62 of the removing legal doubts that might arise in instances LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2325 such as this in the future. It may indeed be the best interests of the institution of government in considered not just by the Attorney-General but by Victoria and Parliament in particular. Parliamentary Counsel. Mrs WADE (Attorney-General) - The The provision used in the House of Lords is to have honourable members for Melbourne, Williamstown a final clause of the Bill first introduced into the and Werribee have given a variety of responses to House of Lords. It is referred to at page 746 of the the Bill and I shall endeavour to cover the 21st edition of May: comments, particularly those made by the honourable members for Williamstown and Nothing in this Act shall impose any charge on the Melbourne. The honourable member for Werribee people or on public funds, or vary the amount or raised a very interesting issue, but I do not believe it incidence of or otherwise alter any such charge in any is relevant to this Bill; in fact, the Speaker ruled that manner, or affect the assessment, levying, it was not relevant. administration or application of any money raised by any such charge. I shall deal firstly with the points raised by the honourable member for Williamstown. She raised If such a provision were to be used and accepted in some points of relevance to women in the legal Victoria it would enable any legal doubt to be system and asked me for a response to a number of resolved and may indeed facilitate the business of different issues. She pointed out that under the Parliament as a whole by enabling a greater number previous government a number of bodies had been of Bills to be introduced in the Legislative Council established to deal with issues relating to women rather than the overwhelming preponderance and the criminal justice system and referred having to be introduced in the Legislative Assembly, particularly to the Community Council Against as is the case at present because of the financial Violence and the Advisory Committee on Rape. privilege of this House. Those bodies have carried out some good work.

I simply suggest to the House that this is an issue I am particularly impressed by the reports of the that needs to be clarified because the wheel turns. Community Council Against Violence, and it is Currently the government has a majority in both important that that council's work continues. At Houses of Parliament, but that is really an historical present I am considering a slightly different aberration. It has been unusual in Victoria's composition for the council that will pick up and constitutional history for a government to have coordinate a number of issues that have been control of both Houses. I do not say it is certain, but examined in the past by that council as well as other it may be possible that in 1996 the situation could bodies. I must say that I have had considerable again revert to the historic norm, where a Labor assistance from Judy Dixon, who is the current government controls the Legislative Assembly but chairperson and executive officer of the council. the conservative parties retain control of the Upper When the new arrangements are in place I believe House. It is hard to see how they could lose that they will have the support of all parties. control in 1996 under any circumstances. The honourable member for Williamstown said she This important issue needs to be clarified and was particularly concerned about the abolition of the addressed by the House, because it really is a matter Victorian Law Reform Commission because it was for the House to consider. I put it to the about to embark on a very important inquiry at the Attorney-General that, although it is not a matter of time it was abolished. She referred, as she has done immediate relevance now with the government in the past, to an inquiry into gender bias in the law. controlling both Houses of Parliament, it could be The honourable member's recollection is a little relevant as early as October 1996. It is possible that unclear on this subject. When she first raised it I was that could be the situation then. surprised to hear her say that the Law Reform Commission was about to conduct an inquiry into In those circumstances I strongly urge the gend~r bias in the law because, shortly after coming Attorney-General to take the matter on board and to government, I was given a report by the give it some consideration. I do not ask necessarily commission on the matters then before it and urgent for the Attorney-General to respond in closing the decisions that needed to be made. There certainly second-reading debate today, but I ask her to have it was no reference in that substantial document to an considered by Parliamentary Counsel and others in inquiry into gender bias in the law. After the matter was raised again, I asked officers of my department LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

2326 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 whether there was any inquiry. The information I considered by women from a wide variety of have received was that there was no reference and backgrounds. In fact, I had almost lined up a no intended reference on that subject, so that myth chairperson for the council who would have been should be put to rest. particularly appropriately qualified to handle that sort of issue but, unfortunately, she has not been The honourable member for Williamstown also said able to take up the position. that, in view of the fact that the commission no longer exists, I should refer the issue of gender bias It seems to me that the council, which will meet in in the law to the Law Reform Advisory Council or metropolitan Melbourne and in country Victoria, possibly some other body. This issue, which has could pick up various legal and law-related issues, received considerable publicity in relation to a and specific issues could perhaps then be referred to particular area of the law in recent weeks, is very the Law Reform Advisory Council for further adVice important. Of course it is not restricted to the area of on how particular problems could be remedied. sexual offences, including rape; it is a matter that is relevant to virtually every area of the criminal law That matter is high on the agenda. However, I am and the civil justice system and is one that we not sure whether gender bias in the law or some should all be concerned about. I have not made any other legal issue will have first priority. It may be decision at this stage to refer the issue to the Law that after all the recent publicity other jurisdictions Reform Advisory Council. will decide to establish committees to examine gender bias in the law. I am not a great believer in I am considering whether a subject along the lines of duplication, so if that is the case I may consider a gender bias might be better examined by the slightly different form of reference. Victoria Women's Council, which is about to be established. The establishment of the council was The honourable member for Williamstown also announced in the coalition's women's policy prior to referred to Professor Kathleen Mahoney, a Canadian the last State election and it is a commitment the who is coming to Victoria shortly. Professor government is about to implement. Prior to the Mahoney has expertise in the area of gender bias election the coalition decided to replace the and has given lectures to judges in Canada and Victorian Women's Consultative Council with a other countries. I have arranged for Professor larger body that was more representative of Mahoney to speak at a late afternoon function to be Victorian women, and preparations are well in hand held in the Supreme Court and I will be inviting for the establishment of the Victoria Women's Supreme and County Court judges, magistrates, Council. members of Parliament, members of the Law Reform Advisory Council and other people who We have recently advertised widely in the may be interested in the topic to attend the function. metropolitan press, country papers, ethnic newspapers and the KoorieMail and have received The honourable member for Williamstown talked numerous expressions of interest. After those about the re-education of judges. Following the advertisements appeared more than 800 inquiries recent publicity I believe there is the likelihood that were received from women throughout Victoria judges and other decision-makers will turn their interested in being appointed to the council. Some minds to the possibility that they may be subject to 370 formal applications have now been received unacknowledged bias, which is a good thing. from women who wish to be members of the Honourable members will agree that they should council. The quality and quantity of those encourage the work of organisations such as the applications is very encouraging and we anticipate Australian Institute of Judicial Administration in that we will get a very good council representing examining education programs in this area. women with a range of experiences from a variety of backgrounds and locations and also from different There appear to be two sides to the remarks of age groups. judges that have been reported in recent newspapers. I am referring not to cases that have It occurs to me that that council may be the been overturned on appeal but to cases where appropriate body to initially examine the issue of judges have felt compelled to let the court have their gender bias. Of course, the women will not be own views on various aspects of life while lawyers. Although I am not excluding a lawyer on discussing issues with counsel. It is clear in those that council, I think it is important that the issue not cases that their remarks were not relevant to the be taken over by the legal profession and that it be decisions. Unfortunately the general public tends to LEGAL PROFESSION PRACTICE (GUARANTEE FUND) BILL

Thursday. 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2327 pick up those comments and believes judges are Attorney-General, who then approved the Law deciding cases on the basis of their own personal Reform Commission's budget. views or prejudices - and that can do considerable harm to the legal system. I suggest judges should I do not want to overlook the CD-ROM and Vic restrain themselves in order to preserve some Statutes project, because the government has put confidence in the legal system. considerable funds, about $250 000, into the project.

The other side is that the remarks have exposed the Mr Cole - Is that all? fact that some judges have outdated views of the world and that some have sexist views. I recognise Mrs WADE - It may not mean much to the that the publication of judges' remarks has caused honourable member for Melbourne but it is a considerable concern among other judges. It has significant amount to most people. The government probably caused them to examine their own expected to receive royalties from the project, but attitudes and ensure that they are not influenced in the Law Reform Commission failed to enter into a making their decisions by views which do not reflect proper agreement before the project started. The community attitudes and which have nothing to do Victorian Government Solicitor has written to the with the law. For that reason it has been useful that Computer Law Services company advising that it the comments of judges have been published; must not continue to market Vic Statutes without a although some judges may have fallen into an licence or authority and that it must cease marketing undesirable way of talking, others will take the statutes immediately. I would be disappointed if measures to ensure that they avoid that trap. any government departments or Parliament were considering entering into arrangements with that It is important that people from a wide range of life company to obtain Vic Statutes in circumstances experiences should be appointed to the bench. Not where the government is not receiving any proceeds all judges should come from one area or be of one from its investment. gender. It is important that more women be appointed to the bench. I express concern that after The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable 10 years of Labor government there is not one member's time has expired. woman sitting on the Supreme or County court benches. I look forward to remedying that situation House divided on omission (Members in favour in the near future. vote No):

The honourable member for Melbourne Ayes, 60 concentrated his remarks on the Law Reform Ashley, Mr Maclellan, Mr Account and expressed concern about the way the Bildstien, Mr McNamara, Mr funds would be spent. He seemed to suggest that Brown, Mr Maughan, Mr either an Attorney-General in the future or I could Clark, Mr Napthine, Dr misappropriate moneys from the account or use it Coleman, Mr Paterson, Mr for purposes unconnected with law reform, such as Cooper, Mr Perrin, Mr tow trucks or tip-trucks. Davis, Mr Perton, Mr Dean, Mr (Teller) Pescott, Mr Mr Brown - Scratch tickets! Doyle, Mr Peulich, Mrs (Teller) Elder, Mr Phillips, Mr Mrs WADE -Or even scratch tickets. The Elliott, Mrs Plowman, Mr A.F. honourable member seems to be judging me in light Finn, Mr Plowman, Mr 5.). of the standards that applied under the former Gude, Mr Reynolds, Mr Attorney-General. I assure him that I will not Hayward, Mr Richardson, Mr misappropriate funds under my administration. The Heffeman, Mr Rowe,Mr accounts will be audited by the Auditor-General. Henderson, Mrs Ryan, Mr Honeywood, Mr Smith, Mr E.R. Last year the Law Reform Commission had Hyams, Mr Smith, Mr I.W. considerable problems with its budget and could not Jasper, Mr Spry, Mr get it approved by the Victoria Law Foundation. It Jenkins, Mr Steggall, Mr was unable to provide the detail required by the John, Mr Stockdale, Mr foundation for the budget to be approved. In the end Kennett, Mr Tanner, Mr the foundation was overruled by the former Kilgour, Mr Tehan, Mrs RACING (AMENDMENT) BILL

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Leigh, Mr Thompson, Mr However, in recent times wagering on racing has Lupton,Mr Traynor, Mr levelled out; as mentioned yesterday in the McArthur, Mr Treasure, Mr second-reading debate, it is now considered by McGiII,Mrs Tumer,Mr many who have studied it that the industry has McGrath, Mr J.F. Wade,Mrs become more mature. The TAB has entered into a McGrath, Mr W.D. Weideman, Mr diversification program. Its first venture was into the McLellan,Mr Wells,Mr field of electronic gaming machines - or poker machines, as they are now better known in Victoria. Noes, 24 Andrianopoulos, Mr Micallef, Mr In allowing electronic gaming machines into dubs Baker,Mr Mildenhall, Mr and hotels in Victoria, the government decreed that Coghill,Or Pandazopoulos, Mr (Teller) 50 per cent of machines would be owned by the TAB Cole,Mr Roper,Mr and the remaining 50 per cent by Tattersalls. Given Cunningham, Mr Sandon,Mr that the machines were only introduced into Victoria Dollis,Mr Seitz, Mr on 16 July last, the industry is in the formative stages Garbutt, Mrs Sercombe, Mr and in the early days of discovering what effect the Haermeyer, Mr (Teller) Sheehan, Mr machines will have on other forms of gaming. Kimer,Ms Thomson,Mr Everyone knows people are betting on the machines, Leighton, Mr Thwaites, Mr and no doubt profits will flow from them. Loney, Mr Vaughan, Dr Marple,Ms Wilson,Mrs At this stage no-one knows when a casino will be built, but one will be established in Victoria. One Amendment negatived. bidder for the construction of the casino, Hudson Conway Ltd, has as its partner the TAB. By Motion agreed to. Christmas the TAB could well be directing its attention towards wagering, electronic gaming Read second time. machines and the operation of a casino. Therefore, a diversification program had to occur within the TAB. Passed remaining stages. In restructuring the board, the government was very RACING (AMENDMENT) BILL conscious of that need. The government's initiative has been supported in a number of areas; the Committee restructuring has been received in the racing industry in the main as necessary and progressive. Resumed from 19 May; further discussion of clause 8 and Mr ROPER's amendment: Macquarie Corporate Finance Ltd conducted a review of and on behalf of the racing industry. In (2) Clause 8, after line 20 insert - April 1993 the following statement was made in its '(4) A majority of the members of the Board must report: have experience in the horse racing industry, the harness racing industry or the greyhound The current management and board structure of the racing industry ... .'. TAB is based on Public Service guidelines. This structure is no longer appropriate given the investment Mr REYNOLDS (Minister for Sport, Recreation by the TAB into gaming and the fundamental change to and Racing) - After giving the matter due the gambling market arising from the introduction of consideration, the government cannot support the gaming and soon a casino. The racing industry amendment moved by the honourable member for proposes that a new TAB board be established to reflect Coburg, for the following reasons. the expanded commercial undertakings of the TAB. In recent years changes have occurred in the service That report has been adopted by the three codes of provided by, and the business of, the Totalizator racing. It is natural that the government, in Agency Board. Things have changed. Until a few endeavouring to ensure that the TAB keeps pace years ago the TAB directed all its attention towards with its modem directions in wagering and gaming, harnessing offcourse wagering, and it still has that considered that the board should reflect that change. as its primary business. That is why the government has proposed a board of seven constituted, as will be revealed in a short RACING (AMENDMENT) BILL

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2329 time, by people from strong business interests who We also took the view that the racing industry have connections with a wide range of industries. needed to be involved and represented in any restructuring, because while the board may be I take on board the views expressed by the capable - and we do not know whether that will be honourable members for Coburg and Footscray. I the case - I agree with the Chairman of the Victoria have had discussions with the Chairman of the Racing Club that the government should have Victoria Racing Club, Mr David Bourke, and have established board appointment procedures undertaken to examine amending legislation when it consistent with the representations actually made to may next be introduced, which will probably be in the government on this issue by the racing codes. the spring sessional period given that the current board will be appointed for three years. I will take It is inappropriate that the input from the racing those views on board. and give them serious industry is left to the discretion of the government or considera tion. the Minister of the day. That is why we moved the amendment. We believe the matter should be I must apologise to the Committee and, through it, addressed prior to the Bill being enacted. to the House for not declaring a pecuniary interest. I own animals that race in all three codes of racing. I It is all very well for the Minister to say, "Of course I should have declared this interest prior to now but it will look at it again during the spring sessional has taken me until now -- period". The Minister made that point yesterday; obviously he is going to propose further changes to Mr Roper - Did you want to forget them? the TAB at that time and therefore it would have been practical to continue the existing board with The CHAIRMAN - Order! I hope the animals the new chairman until the future shape of the TAB are a little quicker than the Minister. is known. The Minister went on to say that he might put some racing people on the body under the Mr REYNOLDS - So do I. It has often been said legislation he will introduce in the spring sitting. to me, ''You should race them yourself" -I have, That would mean he would have to remove a and 1 have beaten them! That great dog, Liberal number of people he had already appointed. Victory, has been retired from racing after 15 wins - a good performance. Liberal Magic has also The racing industry want to know that when a had 15 wins. My pacer, Lazy Meadow, ran third last decision is made on the future of the TAB there will Saturday night at Moonee Valley. They are not all be certainty and continuity. Now is the time to that slow! ensure that that occurs. 1 believe the majority of members of the board must have experience in the For the reasons I have outlined, 1 trust 1 have thoroughbred racing, harness racing or greyhound satisfied the concerns raised by the honourable racing codes. That does not mean that that would be members for Footscray and Coburg. their only interest or their only experience. Of course the reality will be that those codes will have people Mr ROPER (Coburg) -In the report quoted by skilled in business management, in finance and in the Minister the racing industry said it believed the law. there should be a restructuring of the TAB board. 1 assume the Minister has read the complete If the Minister were to support the amendment 1 Macquatie report but, unfortunately, he did not refer have moved he would still have a board with the to other parts of it which make it clear that the board cross-section of skills that the racing industry and I should be restructured. It recommends that a have mentioned. The amendment does not suggest specific ongoing racing code should be directly that board members would not have those other involved in the board. Unfortunately, the Minister skills, but it is important that a decision be made has not accepted that view. about the membership having experience and knowledge of the racing codes and a broad As I said during the second-reading debate, and as 1 experience of the world. have said publicly on a number of occasions, about 18 months ago I took the view that the Racing Act On behalf of the opposition and the many others needed to be amended to change the way in which who are interested in the racing industry, I say that the TAB operates. The opposition and the racing the government has shown an unfortunate lack of a industry strongly support that view. capacity to respond to the representations that have been made to it. It was not just the Victoria Racing RACING (AMENDMENT) BILL

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Club - which wrote on behalf of other clubs as The objects of the TAB are not laid down in the Act well - but the Harness Racing Board also wrote to and the Bill does not provide guidelines or criteria me on this matter. It is unfortunate that the Minister for the membership of the Totalizator Agency Board. is not prepared to accept the amendment - he I contrast this legislation with the gaming machine shook his head quite vigorously at the time. legislation. The TAB is tightly constrained in its ability to do particular things, but if one examines Information has been leaked about the kinds of the legislation to find guidelines for the board or a people who may be on the board. The Minister has mission statement one finds that the legislation is made it clear that he did not leak that information. I silent. It ought to provide a set of guidelines for the know a number of useful names have been future of the industry. We do not need to reiterate mentioned. The best test for the government would the overall corporate significance and economic size have been a preparedness of the Minister to accept of the operation. the views put to the Minister by Mr Bourke, but when they were not included in the legislation I It is of critical importance to the economy of the moved the amendment to do so. State and the future of the industry. Given the Significance of the legislation and the minute size of The time to ensure a proper membership balance on the amendment, the response of the government is the board is at the time members are appointed. As unreasonable. the honourable member for Melton has said, "Get it right the first time!" For that reason the opposition Mr REYNOLDS (Minister for Sport, Recreation will persist with its amendment. I hope at some and Racing) - The honourable member for Coburg future stage the government will say, ''Yes, we has suggested that changes may be made to the should have done that", and it will do so. Racing Act in the spring session. That may be so, but those changes will have nothing to do with the TAB. Mr MILD EN HALL (Footscray) -It appears The Act is very broad and I anticipate that it will from the Minister's comments that the government require amendment again. and the opposition are not far apart about the skills ultimately required for members of the board. We The current board will be appointed for a full appear to be agreeing about the sorts of people that three-year term, and nothing will change that. Both should be on the board and we are working towards honourable members have referred to requests they full agreement. I admit I am at a loss to understand have received from various groups seeking why the government will not accept the representation on the board. The three city racing amendment; it would not be hard logistically. clubs, the Victorian Country Racing Association, the harness racing industry, the greyhound racing In the face of convincing argument put by the industry and kindred bodies have all written to me opposition the government agreed to significant asking for appointments on the board, but they amendments to the Local Government Act. The real cannot all be representatives on the board, difficulty in proceeding the way we are is that the particularly while the industry is heading in its provision takes a blank-cheque approach. It places current direction and while the TAB performs the no constraints on the Minister in deciding the services that it does. composition of the board. It is not accurate to say that the government's approach has been well A few years ago the TAB was turnover driven, in received by the industry. other words, the more turnover the better the returns. However turnover is no longer expected to In the Age of 30 April-it was Friday's Age, a increase markedly in the future given the advent of respectable distance from Sunday - Mr Rod the casino and perhaps the full introduction of Johnson is reported as having said that the racing electronic gaming machines. Therefore the direction industry believes it was responsible for the of the TAB must be refocussed to become profit establishment and success of the TAB and its motivated rather than turnover driven. To that end investment in gaming, and therefore it should have the restructure is heading in that direction. a substantial influence on the composition of the board. I will take on board before the spring session of Parliament the requests that some members of the The opposition's amendment will give some basis board have industry experience. for those sorts of discussions and it will achieve the goal of a link between the industry and the board. RACING (AMENDMENT) BILL

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Committee divided on amendment: arrangements that are reflected in the clause were developed by the former Minister for Sport and Ayes, 26 Recreation, Mr Trezise, who was the Minister in Andrianopoulos, Mr Marple, Ms (Teller) charge of racing. Baker. Mr Mical\ef. Mr Coghill. Dr Mildenhall. Mr I believe his initiative, which is now endorsed by the Cole.Mr Pandazopoulos. Mr present government, will sufficiently improve the Cunningham. Mr Roper. Mr situation of the TAB. For a healthy racing industry Oollis.Mr Sandon. Mr and wagering environment in this State it is not Garbutt. Mrs Seitz. Mr sufficient simply to deal with the commissions so far Haenneyer. Mr Sercombe. Mr as the TAB is concerned; there should also be action, Hamilton. Mr Sheehan. Mr again as proposed by the former government, to Kennan. Mr Thomson.Mr ensure that bookmakers in the State remain viable. Kirner. Ms Thwaites. Mr Leighton. Mr Vaughan. Or There has been a phenomenal drop in the level of Loney. Mr (Teller) Wilson. Mrs money invested with bookmakers over the past nine months and the position has been getting worse for Noes, 56 some time. In the past nine months the level of Ashley. Mr McNamara. Mr investment has dropped from $389 million in the Bildstien, Mr Maughan.Mr previous year to $291 million this year. That is a Brown. Mr Napthine. Or severe drop. Clark. Mr Paterson. Mr Coleman.Mr Perrin. Mr Will the government follow the lead that was Cooper. Mr Perton. Mr initiated by the government last August and reduce Oavis. Mr Pescott, Mr the turnover tax paid by bookmakers by 25 Dean. Mr (Teller) Peulich.Mrs percentage points? It would be of significant Ooyle.Mr Phillips.Mr assistance to bookmakers at both city and country Elder. Mr Plowman. Mr A.F. race meetings and in all three codes. Unless Elliott.Mrs Plowman. Mr S.J. something of a dramatic nature such as this is done Finn.Mr Reynolds. Mr we will see the potential end of bookmaking in Gude.Mr Richardson. Mr Victoria. I know many places do not have Hayward. Mr Rowe.Mr bookmakers, but anyone who goes to a race meeting Heffernan. Mr Ryan. Mr (Teller) in Victoria, whether it be the Melbourne Cup, a race Henderson. Mrs Smith. Mr E.R. meeting at Yarra Glen, a harness meeting at Nyah or Honeywood. Mr Smith. MrI.W. the dogs, is greatly encouraged and the area Hyams. Mr Spry. Mr becomes more excited because of the presence of Jasper. Mr Steggall. Mr bookmakers. Jenkins. Mr Tanner. Mr John. Mr Tehan. Mrs The opposition is concerned that clause 10 assists the Kilgour.Mr Thompson. Mr TAB only. It may have the indirect effect of making Leigh. Mr Traynor, Mr it more difficult for bookmakers than is currently the Luplon. Mr Treasure. Mr situation. The Bill should be accompanied by the McArthur, Mr Turner, Mr other part of the package put forward by the former McGiII.Mrs Wade,Mrs Minister for Sport and Recreation which was to McGrath. Mr W.O. Weideman, Mr assist the viability of bookmakers by reducing their McLellan,Mr Wells,Mr turnover tax. Unfortunately the legislation deals only with the TAB and not with that other small part Amendment negatived. of the overall wagering industry, bookmakers.

Clause agreed to; clause 9 agreed to. It would be useful for the Minister to examine other forms of betting such as Sportsbook, which can be Clause 10 made more readily available in Victoria. That will add to the interest and excitement that exists in the Mr ROPER (Coburg) - During the wagering industry. second-reading debate I made it clear that the opposition supported clause 10, and the financial TA TTERSALL CONSULTATIONS (REPORTING) BILL

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Mr REYNOLDS (Minister for Sport, Recreation TATTERSALL CONSULTATIONS and Racing) - I thank the honourable member for (REPORTING) BILL Coburg for his support. I was not aware of any legislation presented to the Parliament by the former Second reading Minister for Sport and Recreation regarding the 14.5 per cent commission deduction. It is an Debate resumed from 6 May; motion of initiative of the government, and nobody can take Mr STOCKDALE (Treasurer). that away. Mr ROPER (Coburg) - The Bill results from The honourable member also suggested that views put forward by the Auditor-General, which bookmakers' turnover last year was $389 million were made public in his report on Ministerial and so far this year it is $291 million. That is a portfolios in May 1992. The opposition does not Significant downturn, but one must realise that the oppose the measure because it desirable and was $291 million represents only nine months of this agreed to while I was Treasurer. year. In July 1991 the Auditor-General communicated Mr Roper interjected. with my colleague the Honourable David White, the then Minister for Gaming, on the accountability Mr REYNOLDS - I apologise to the honourable status of Tattersalls in the context of the proposed member if I did not understand him correctly. I role under the Gaming Machine Control Bill, which assure the honourable member that the .25 per cent was then being considered by the Parliament. The reduction in turnover tax will be considered during Auditor-General took the view that the public budgetary considerations. Whether I can win that accountability framework for Tattersalls in respect argument is another matter, given the disastrous of its gaming operations should equate with the financial position the government inherited and the those of the other gaming operator, namely, the problems the State is faCing. It is a matter of Totalizator Agency Board (TAB). budgetary consideration. The audit encouraged action that would bring about Mr ROPER (Coburg) - I believe the former that situation. When the Gaming Machine Control Minister's initiative paved the way for this measure Bill was before the Parliament, amendments were and the work that he did in trying to get the introduced to provide for more Tattersall public maximum level of cooperation across the TABs in accountability. Another example occurred with the State would have been something that the amendments in the Club Keno Bill that was Minister should have been prepared to agree was guillotined through Parliament last night. highly desirable and has contributed to the provisions in the Bill. At the time the former Labor government was considering those gaming matters, the The former Minister made it clear to the racing Auditor-General communicated with me as the industry that he had given approval for the Minister responsible for Tattersalls expressing the legislation, and likewise for the reduction in the view that similar action should be initiated in regard commissions. That was publicly known. The to its lottery activities. I had not only no objection opposition supports the Bill because it had already but believed that was an appropriate step to take, debated the matter when it was in government. and discussions took place between officers of my However, there was no spring session of Parliament then department and Tattersalls and officers of the in which to introduce legislation to bring that or the Auditor-General's Department. bookmakers matter to fruition. Tattersalls was not necessarily enamoured of the Clause 10 agreed to; clauses 11 to 14 agreed to. provisions proposed, and that is the case with the provisions now before Parliament. But in January Reported to House without amendment. 1992 I advised the Auditor-General of my concurrence with his view that Tattersalls accounts Passed remaining stages. should be tabled in the Parliament. I said I would be proposing legislation to require the tabling of the accounts. THE VICTORIA RACING CLUB (AMENDMENT) BILL

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Although I agree with Tattersalls that it is not in the THE VICTORIA RACING CLUB same position vis-a-vis the Parliament or vis-a-vis (AMENDMENT) BILL the community as the TAB, which is very much a publicly owned corporation, because of the special The ACTING SPEAKER (Mr E. R. Smith) - arrangements of Tattersalls with the State in relation Order! I have examined The Victoria Racing Club to lotteries and other forms of gaming it requires a (Amendment) Bill and in my opinion it is a private level of accountability to Parliament and the public Bill. that would not apply to a normal private commercial company. Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and Employment) - I move: Treasury has always received significant amounts of information from Tattersalls, but not all of that That this Bill be dealt with as a public Bill. information has necessarily been available to members of Parliament who, from time to time, are Motion agreed to. called upon to legislate on Tattersalls, or to the community that contributes through gambling to the Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and profitability of Tattersalls. Employment)(By leave) - I advise that the sum required pursuant to Standing Order No. 168(d) to As I said, the Labor Party had already considered be paid has been paid into Treasury. the matter when in government. It had agreed that legislation should be prepared. It is now before the Second reading House and on behalf of the opposition, and I am sure Parliament, honourable members are able to see Debate resumed from 13 May; motion of that the benefits will be better information from Mr REYNOLDS (Minister for Sport, Recreation Tattersalls for the Parliament and the community of and Racing). Victoria in the near future. Mr ROPER (Coburg) - As the House has just In addition, the Bill addresses a couple of technical heard, The Victoria Racing Club (Amendment) Bill matters. Clause 4 relates to non-application of the is a private Bill that has been introduced into the ticket levy to a person who is selling Tattersalls House very late in the session. Representatives of the tickets overseas. Victoria Racing Club asked members of the opposition to consider expediting the passage of the The opposition considers that the amendment proposed legislation even though it was introduced contained in the provision is desirable and adds to so late in the session. Although it is not the normal the overall strength of Tattersall Consultations, process that such Bills proceed speedily, after which is to the advantage of Victoria. discussions with officers of the VRC and the Parliamentary Party Caucus Bill Committee on Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and Racing and Gaming it was agreed that the passage Employment) -On behalf of the Treasurer, I thank of the proposed legislation should be expedited the honourable member for Coburg for the work through the House and be transmitted to the other that he put in when in government and for his House. It will then be a matter for the other House to continuing support and the support of the determine whether it is passed during this session. opposition in general for the passage of the Tattersall Consultations (Reporting) Bill. The The discussions my colleagues and I have had with government shares the aspirations of the opposition the VRC were useful. As I said, we agreed that the for the legislation and hopes it will bring about the Bill should be supported and proceed because of the improvements in the reporting and procedures that advantages it offers particularly to the operations of all honourable members would wish to see. the VRC and, by assisting the VRC, the advantages it has for racing generally. Motion agreed to. The VRC is Victoria's major racing body. It is Read second time. responsible not only for a Significant portion of the overall management of racing in this State but also Passed remaining stages. provides an important standard-setting capacity both for racing per se and the presentation of racing. THE VICTORIA RACING CLUB (AMENDMENT) BILL

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The standards set can be seen in the excellence of the It is interesting to consider the way Parliament dealt performance of the VRC in carrying out its functions. with the 1871 Bill. The Victoria Racing Club Bill was introduced by a Mr Stephen and a number of The Victoria Racing Club (Amendment) Bill is the members took part in the debate. It was then sent to last of a long list of private Bills on the issue that a Select Committee to be considered. have come before Parliament over the past 122 years. The first legislation was Act No. 398 which There are some issues that relate to the legislation was enacted on 28 November 1871. I point out to which were raised by honourable members in 1871. honourable members that some experience in A Mr Vale, who I Wlderstand was the honourable reading Roman numerals is a help in making a member for Collingwood, said that: calculation as to the number of the Bill because it is shown as CCCXCV111. There was no reason why a certain portion of the land which was not required for the purposes of the Mr Reynolds interjected. racecourse should not be a free place of public resort when the races were not on. The racing ground itself Mr ROPER - Actually, Latin was one of my might be left perfectly intact, but it was too much to matriculation subjects. This has been one of the few expect that for that sport alone 300 acres of land in such times it has been useful! proximity to the city should be virtually locked up.

Mr Reynolds interjected. As we have seen over the years, the racecourse and the racing industry have used that land to its best Mr ROPER - The private Victoria Racing Club advantage. The legislation before us today provides Bill was introduced in 1871 following the granting in for uses apart from direct racing so long as those 1859 by the Crown of: uses are of direct benefit to racing.

three hundred and one acres three roods (be the same The legislation has some other rather quaint clauses more or less) ... in it. There are clauses that I Wlderstand are still in force which could at some future time cause So there was a bit of licence in respect of the size of difficulty. An honourable member referred to the land. section 22 of the 1871 Victoria Racing Club Act relating to the arrest of a transient offender, which The 1871 legislation provided that the grant of land stated: had been made: Any member officer or servant of the committee and all ... excepting nevertheless unto her Majesty her heirs persons called by him to his assistance may seize and and successors all such parts and so much of the said detain any person who shall have committed any land as might thereafter be required for making public offence against the provisions of this Act or of the ways canals railroad sewers or drains in over and bye-laws made under this Act and whose name and through the same to be set out by the Governor for the residence shall not be given to such member officer or time being of the said colony or some person duly servant upon his requiring the same to be given and authorised in that respect and also all mines of gold or give such offender in charge to a police constable who silver and of coal with full and free liberty and power shall convey him with all convenient dispatch before to search for dig and take away the same. some justice without any warrant ...

As far as I am aware, no engineering mining activity A very wise member back in August 1871 by the has been Wldertaken on the Flemington Racecourse. Wltypical name of Mr Smith had this to say: Certainly over the years a Significant amoWlt of both gold and silver has changed hands there. Suppose one of the stewards saw a jockey who was just about to ride in a race perform some slight act of Mr Reynolds - And lost, as well! omission or commission, if he had a heavy bet on the race he might order the jockey to be taken off the Mr ROPER - That happens only to those who course, and there being no jockey to ride the horse the are backing the slow horse you talked about in the bet might be lost, and a large amount of money debate on the previous Bill! improperly change hands. THE VICTORIA RACING CLUB (AMENDMENT) BILL

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While the Minister says money often does change there to prevent other people crossing into the area. hands no member of that committee over the At about that time the Wood end Racing Club was intervening 122 years has to my knowledge used the effectively losing its capacity to run its meetings substantial powers which are still in existence to separately. I remember it being put to one of the remove the jockey from a rival horse. One could staff or committee members of the VRC at the time imagine if Mick Dittman arrives back from the that we are sure there are other racing clubs such as United States of America and continues his Woodend that would love to have the occupancy of successful riding career it may well be that at some that useful land at Flemington Racecourse and future stage on the first Tuesday in November a would be almost certain not to discriminate against committee member could use these powers. the women who wished to enter into various parts of the course. Such lighthearted threats were never Part of the problem is that these pieces of necessary in the sense that the committee moved on legislation - the law as it relates to the operation of that issue. Flemington Racecourse - having been made so long ago are never fully revised. Small amendments are The legislation has three main purposes, the first of introduced when a legal problem presents, and that which is to permit the greater use of the Flemington is what is before the House today. Some purpose Racecourse for non-racing purposes. As I have said, may be served at some stage by the Victoria Racing that is not a new issue before the Parliament because Club looking at its parent Act and bringing it up to it was before the Parliament back in 1871 and before date with modern arrangements. I remember a the committee that dealt with it also. It is interesting number of bank Bills coming before the House that to listen to evidence given by the committee, which were similar to this measure. One may add by way said: of aside that the legislation provides that anyone who obstructs the officers of the committee or The committee have invariably refused all sorts of trespasses on the racecourse is committing an running matches and pigeon matches on the ground, offence and will be fined a sum not exceeding considering it would be a breach of the conditions of 10 pounds. the lease, not that it would hurt the ground; but it would be a violation of the lease. There is probably some purpose to be served by placing the penalties there in a modern context and I do not know what a pigeon match is; it could be in a currency that can be used. Section 44 of the 1871 quite an exciting event likely to attract a crowd of Act is Significant, and it states: 100 000 people! After all this time the government is empowering the VRC, through clause 4 of the Notwithstanding any thing in this Act contained Her present Bill, to use Flemington Racecourse for Majesty Her heirs or successors shall not be entitled to non-racing purposes - however they must be take or resume possession of the lands by this Act connected with or for the benefit of horseracing in vested or authorised to be vested in the chairman Victoria, which is a fairly wide definition. It could without previously paying to the chairman in trust for produce revenue which could assist the VRC at the club the value of all buildings then erected or being horse racing; it certainly overcomes any legal doubts upon such lands such value to be determined ... about whether there should be a Tabaret there, which under the existing legislation may be doubtful. It goes on to talk about an 1845 Act which would determine compensation. Again that is an It is equally and very importantly going to allow in a interesting concept because it means that at some much freer way the capacity for facilities on the future time if the government wished to take over course to be let. Some years ago when additional Flemington Racecourse it would have to pay for the stables were built a special Bill had to be passed by value of the buildings erected. There was a change Parliament to allow it to occur. Under clause 4 it in the committee work because originally it said would be possible for the VRC with the approval of "cost" rather than "value". One of the committee the Minister under the Conservation, Forests and members made the suggestion that value would be a Lands Act to allow this kind of letting of additional fairer way of describing compensation paid. stables.

I remember hearing a discussion at the time when However, any such activity should not prevent or there was a controversy at Flemington Racecourse hinder the remaining land being used as a public over paint that had been put in the members' area. racecourse. I know from the work done by the VRC The paint was in the form of a white line placed in developing its master plan that it believed THE VICTORIA RACING CLUB (AMENDMENT) BILL

2336 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 additional stables and training facilities could be The master plan, which the legislation will assist, is constructed at Flemington Racecourse, which clause like all master plans - subject to change. As it was 4 would make more effective. prepared in 1991 there have already been some changes, and additional prospects have been made One issue that arose during my discussions with the available to the VRC and the racecourse. An area of VRC that could be considered by the House, the development that I hope to see is the development Melbourne City Council and the VRC is the of a much better educational program in the racing proposition -it is not one that has to be industry. I know the T AFE college in the area has immediately put into effect - for the land along the done much work on that and it may be an Maribymong River next to the racecourse to be appropriate use for the now-closed Flemington High made available to continue the existing jogging and School, just as there is some good sense in the VRC potential bicycle path along that bank of the river. having its offices on the track rather than in Queens Over the past few years the paths and tracks along Road. our major creeks and rivers have been developed. Along that side of the Maribymong River extending The legislation also increases the borrowing limit of to Fairbairn Park there is provision for a path or the VRC. As I said before, the first and major bicycle track that will assist in the Greening amendment allows the greater use of Flemington Melbourne program. Some private houses abut the Racecourse for non-racing purposes. The legislation river and those private residences may concede will increase the borrowing powers of the club from some of their land for the development. Obviously $5 million to $10 million. Current limits have been in the racecourse and the horses would require proper place since 1976 and from time to time those security. restrictions have caused difficulty for the club.

My colleague the honourable member for Footscray, The original borrowing limit was 15 000 pounds, whose electorate is opposite the course, and I have which has been amended on three separate raised this issue with the VRC, and both occasions. The limit was increased to 100000 Mr Johnstone and the chairman, Mr Bourke, are pounds, then to 750 000 pounds and finally to willing to examine that proposition. They have $5 million in 1976. This is not borrOWings of the already made arrangements from time to time to State, but because the TAB distribution is received in allow joggers to use part of the course and, in the arrears twice each year, in August and October, long term, that would be a useful further public there is a need to fund operations, particularly development of that land which, as I said, was during the fourth quarter or during periods of high provided to the club in 1859. The project could come capital expenditure. The potential difficulty of the under the heading "Land required for making public club is heightened pending receipt of the approved ways", which is the wording in the original racecourse licence funding. The opposition does not legislation. The development fits in with the object to the increase in the borrowing limit. significant words in the master plan, which has as its fifth objective: Clause 6 provides for the financial year of the club to be amended from the normal financial year to one To improve the perception and use of the racecourse as more related to the birthday of horses. The provision part of the metropolitan open space system and will substitute 31 July for 30 June. The end of the improve links between the course and the Maribyrnong financial year has been 30 June since the legislation River. was originally prepared by Parliament in 1871, but the VRC has put to the opposition that from time to When I raised this issue with the representatives of time difficulties have been caused because it must the VRC they said they had already given thought to deal with the horse racing year and the financial it and believed it was worth pursuing. year, and there is some confusion between them.

It is the opposition's intention, because of the I have one query that may be corrected while the Bill interest of the honourable member for Footscray, to is between here and another place. The other have further discussions and inspections with provisions relating to the time at which accounts officers of the VRC during the winter recess. I was have to be made available should be amended. It pleased with the willingness of Mr Bourke to would be worth while for the Minister to examine investigate the possibilities of extending that path whether all the dates relating to the closing of the and we look forward to cooperating with him. financial year have been amended. I think they have, but it would be best if that were checked. THE VICTORIA RACING CLUB (AMENDMENT) BILL

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Section 40 of the Victoria Racing Club Act 1871 the Racing Act and listening to comments in states: previous debate on the future of that Act, it was quite obvious that the Racing Act needed review The books of the club shall before the thirty-first day of and redrafting. There is an obvious case for the same July in each and every year be balanced up to and review and redrafting of the Victoria Racing Club inclusive of the thirtieth day of June in the year Act. preceding ... The Act is a work of art in itself. One wonders That has been changed in the following way: for lithe whether for nostalgic and heritage considerations it thirty-first day of July" substitute "31 October"; and should be left in place. One also wonders whether for lithe thirtieth day of June in the year preceding" there is some sort of constraint that prevents us from substitute lithe preceding 31 July". I am not tampering too much with such a piece of history that absolutely certain whether that fits in with the is almost in its original form. timing of club annual general meetings and so on. I would like the Minister's department to check that As the honourable member for Coburg has said, and to make sure that the Bill provides the most there are some extraordinary provisions in the Act. effective mechanism for the Victoria Racing Club to There is a 21-year lease with a peppercorn rental, if change its financial year and to allow for the books demanded. It would be interesting to know whether to be in a proper and adequate form for the first that has ever been subject to demand. I note formal procedure of presenting its accounts. thankfully that the 21-year lease is qualified later in Certainly it is desirable that financial operations the Act by section 11, which allows the lands coincide with the racing year. That should enhance demised to remain vested in and held by the the administration and reporting procedures of the chairman. club. The main provisions that should concern members Over the past few years the VRC has shown that it is have been covered from a broad policy perspective prepared to change with the times. I mentioned by the honourable member for Coburg. My remarks before the white line episode. It is fair to say now are more from the perspective of a local member that the attitude of the club is significantly different. with some subregional interest in the future Indeed there is now a woman member of the development of the area and in particular in the committee of the club. That is one area where provisions that allow for ancillary uses - that is, significant inroads were made in the 1980s, with uses that are not directly linked to racing but that racing becoming more attractive to women who are can benefit racing. This reflects the reality of interested in following the races, punting or developments in the past few years. It allows and participating. recognises the need for the gaming facilities that have been built at the club. It also allows and The committee and its officers have become far more provides for some of the properties that are under conscious of the way in which they can promote not consideration by the VRC. only the club but racing in general and how they can link that with general tourism and development Members heard during debate on the racing activity that benefits the State's economy as a whole. industry a number of comments about the economic During the past decade the VRC has been at the and financial significance of the racing industry and forefront of getting full value out of carnivals such downstream industries. Because of the breadth of as the spring carnival for the Victorian economy. the ancillary industries, there will be pressure on the site. I am aware of proposals for the old Flemington It has been interesting to have been involved in the High School site. The racing analytical laboratory, amendment of the 1871 legislation. It has been the VRC headquarters and perhaps a national interesting to read the old legislation and the old industry training centre for the racing industry may debates. This Bill demonstrates that Parliament is be relocated there. constantly upgrading and updating legislation. I suppose it would be worthwhile for the club to Although members of the public would logically see consider at some future stage bringing its parent Act the Flemington High School site as the proper into the 1990s if not the next century. location for those sorts of industries, there would certainly be some doubt under the existing Mr MILDENHALL (Footscray) - The Victoria legislation as to whether that could be provided for. Racing Club Act is extraordinary. From glancing at The development of those industries does not THE VICTORIA RACING CLUB (AMENDMENT) BILL

2338 ASSEMBLY Thu~ay, 20 May 1993 legitimise what has happened to Flemington High the Woodend Racing Club until the/day it closed School. It may well have been the case that down. Given that it was in my electorate and closed Flemington High School would have become down a few months prior to the election it did not available anyway. become an issue, about which I was delighted.

There was detailed community consultation under I am sincerely grateful to the opposition for its way at the time the government took its precipitant support. The government did not intend to rush the action of closing the school. That has made it more Bill through the House but the VRC expressed a difficult for the site to be used because local preference for it to go through during this sessional community resentment and disdain will remain period to enable it to put in place financial and about the way the school was closed. It obviously accountancy arrangements to provide an would have been far better had that consultation opportunity for it to borrow additional money. I am process been allowed to take its due course; a more grateful to the opposition for cooperating so beneficial outcome would have resulted. willingly.

The other area available for alternative use is the The honourable member for Coburg gave us a riverfront. It is interesting to read comments made lesson in Roman numerals and Victorian legislative in the 18605 by the then honourable member for history. His speech and reminiscences were Collingwood. As times have changed, so have the informative and interesting, particularly his principles of access to beaches and access to major dissertation on the 1871 Act and its language. His waterways - and the Maribyrnong is not the speech probably demonstrates that there is a need to original major river in the metropolitan area. There look at that Act and the Racing Act. It would be nice, is a community expectation that Parliament should, however, to leave some of the grand historical Acts where it is able, seek reasonable access to the river. in their existing form if they are not doing us any harm. Given the amount of land available and the physical constraints at the site I believe it is possible to There are two aspects that need to be investigated. provide a layout along the riverbank that will allow The first is that the potential for growth and access, not only to those who may wish to use a development in the area has always interested me recreational park but also to people who frequently because I reside at Ascot Vale. Walking and bicycle go fishing there or who may wish to be involved in access tracks adjacent to the Maribyrnong River some fairly low-key pimicking activities. have been a commendable addition to the area over the past few years. There is an opportunity to study As the honourable member for Coburg said, the the future development of Flemington and the physical arrangements can be put in place to secure surrounding precinct. The area includes Lynch's the area and it is consistent with the planning done Bridge, the still undeveloped Newmarket saleyards, by the Victoria Racing Club itself. Local benefits may the Royal Melbourne Showground, Flemington well emerge as a result of development on the High School, and parkland adjacent to the racecourse, not only in the growth of industry at the Maribymong River, right up to the campus of the centre but also in increased opportunities for the Victoria University of Technology. local community, which has a level of access to open space that is lower than the metropolitan average. In some places the area has a tired look about it, but it could be made a beautiful part of Melbourne. The The other parts of the amending Bill are desirable area, which is served by excellent public transport and logical given past and expected future facilities and has excellent road access, has the developments in the racing industry. I join the potential to enhance Melbourne. Central to that honourable member for Coburg in supporting the potential development is Flemington Racecourse Bill and wish it a speedy passage. itself, probably the greatest racecourse in the world.

Mr REYNOLDS (Minister for Sport, Recreation The honourable member for Coburg asked whether and Racing) - I declare a pecuniary interest: I race all facets of the Act had been amended to allow a animals in all three codes of racing. In his change in the end of the financial year from 30 June entertaining and light-hearted dissertation the to 31 July. I understand that matter has been taken honourable member for Coburg demonstrated that account of and that the VRC, which has had an he had done quite a bit of research. I declare a opportunity of examining the Bill, is happy about it. further pecuniary interest in that I was a member of I am, however, happy to again refer that matter to CRIMES (AMENDMENT) BILL

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2339 the department for checking before the Bill comes on or to give a false name and address upon a request for debate next week in another place. from a police officer who reasonably believes that the person has committed, or is about to commit, I thought the honourable member for Footscray was any offence or may be able to assist in the a member of the National Party at first. The way he investigation of an indictable offence. took us up and down Ballarat Road and Smithfield Road was a parochial, parish-pump contribution. It There may be some concern that this power may be was, however, a thoughtful contribution that used to harass or intimidate persons. To enhance showed his great interest in the development of a accountability, a police officer who requests a facility close to his electorate. Obviously the member person's name and address is placed under a who represents the area in question will tell him to corresponding obligation to provide, in writing if mind his own business and to get back across the requested, his or her name, rank and place of duty. river! FINGERPRINTS I again thank honourable members for their contributions and wish the Bill a speedy passage. Proposed new section 464K, dealt with in clause 7, empowers police to take fingerprints from a person Motion agreed to. 15 years of age and above suspected of committing an indictable offence or a prescribed summary Read second time. offence. A police officer seeking fingerprints must first give a detailed caution. The giving of that Passed remaining stages. caution and the suspect's responses must be recorded. If the adult suspect refuses to give his or CRIMES (AMENDMENT) BILL her fingerprints police may use reasonable force to obtain them. Second reading Two significant safeguards apply where reasonable Mrs WADE (Attorney-General) - I move: force is used to obtain fingerprints. Firstly, a police officer must seek prior authorisation from a senior That this Bill be now read a second time. officer. Secondly, wherever practicable, a police officer involved in the investigation of the offence BACKGROUND will not be the officer who takes the fingerprints.

The coalition made a commitment prior to the The Bill reflects the government's belief that a election to enhance the investigative powers of the juvenile 15 years of age or older is sufficiently police. The Bill honours that commitment. It gives mature to be fingerprinted without court the police power: to obtain the name and address of supervision. However, the Bill provides specific a person reasonably suspected of committing an safeguards for these persons, namely: the juvenile's offence; fingerprint a person charged with or parent or guardian, or an independent person, must reasonably suspected of committing an offence; be present when police request fingerprints, caution conduct, following the consent of a magistrate, a the suspect and when the fingerprints are taken. If body search or obtain hair, blood or other samples reasonable force is required to take the fingerprints with the assistance of a medical practitioner. of a juvenile, the procedure will be videorecorded wherever practicable. NAMES AND ADDRESSES . Fingerprints cannot be sought from a child under In most cases, persons requested by police officers to 10 years of age. Fingerprints can be obtained only provide their names and addresses do so willingly. from a child between 10 and 14 years of age where However, in a small number of cases persons refuse the child's parent or guardian consents or where a to provide their names and addresses. The lack of court order is obtained. The recent murder of a very power to require persons to provide their names and young boy by two 10-year-olds in the United addresses hinders police operations and Kingdom is a reminder that investigative powers investiga tions. must apply to young offenders, with appropriate safeguards. Proposed section 456A makes it an offence for a person to refuse to give his or her name and address CRIMES (AMENDMENT) BILL

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Under proposed new section 464M the Children's The diSCiplinary reforms contained in the Police Court may make an order if it is satisfied that there Regulation (Discipline) Bill enhance the chief are reasonable grounds to believe that the child has commissioner's power to ensure that officers who committed an indictable offence or a prescribed exercise those powers improperly are subject to summary offence and, in all the circumstances, the swift and appropriate disciplinary action. making of the order is justified. FORENSIC PROCEDURES An application for a court order directing a child to give his or her fingerprints is a preliminary The Bill extends the power under the Crimes Act to proceeding in the course of police investigations; it is allow compulsory blood samples to be taken, subject not intended to be an opportunity to test the entire to court supervision, to include the full range of police case against the child. In order to remove any samples and examinations recommended by the doubt about the role of the child in such an Coldrey committee. These are: samples of hair, application, proposed new section 464M specifies including pubic hair; scrapings from under the that the child is not a party to the application, may fingernail or toenail; swabs from surface of the skin; not call or cross-examine any witnesses and has a swabs or washings for gunshot residue; and limited right of address before the court. physical examinations. The Bill also applies the compulsory procedures to scrapings taken from the Fingerprints taken pursuant to a court order will be mouth and dental impressions. videorecorded wherever possible and taken in the presence of the child's parent or guardian or an Proposed new section 464S extends the regime independent person. established under the Crimes Act for taking blood samples by consent to regulate the conduct of any DESTRUCTION OF FINGERPRINTS forensic procedure with the consent of the suspect. The suspect must be given a detailed caution and Under proposed new section 4640, the Chief the caution must be recorded. Where consent is Commissioner of Police is obliged to destroy refused, the forensic procedure can be conducted fingerprint records if, within six months of being only pursuant to a court order. fingerprinted that person has not been charged; or that person has been charged but the matter not The court must be satisfied that: proceeded with; or the person has been charged and (1) material believed to be from the offender's acquitted. body has been found at the scene of the offence, on the victim, or on an object or Proposed new section 464P authorises a person person believed to have been associated with whose fingerprints were retained because of an the commission of the offence; or offence committed as a juvenile to apply for the destruction of his or her fingerprint records if he or (2) material from the body or clothing of the she achieves an eight-year "clean slate" as an adult, victim is present on the body, clothing or that is, no finding of guilt in respect of any offence posseSSions of the person who committed the between 18 and 25 years of age. offence. Where police are seeking a swab or washing for However, if the juvenile offence for which the gunshot residue, the court must be satisfied that a person's fingerprints were retained was a violent firearm was discharged during the offence. offence, a sexual offence or arson, that person's fingerprints will be retained indefinitely. Where police are seeking to conduct a physical examination, the court must be satisfied that the COMPLAUNTPROCEDURES person who committed the offence has distinguishing marks or injuries. If police officers exercise the new name and address and fingerprinting powers inappropriately, To clarify ambiguities arising from the Loughnan aggrieved citizens may utilise the existing complaint case, proposed new section 464T specifies that the procedures. Public complaints may be made directly suspect on whom the police wish to conduct a to the Police Internal Investigations Department or forensic procedure: is not a party to the application; complaints can be made to the Deputy Ombudsman may not call or cross-examine any witnesses; and (Police Complaints). has a limited and specified right to address the court. The accused may be represented by counsel or CRIMES (AMENDMENT) BILL

Thursday. 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2341 a solicitor. A similar regime applies to police seeking sample. The DNA profile of such offender will be to conduct a forensic procedure on a child. analysed and retained.

The existing safeguards that apply to the taking of The government is satisfied that the retention of a blood samples such as the limitations on the use of DNA profile is justified in the case of a person who evidence obtained from blood samples have been has been found guilty of a serious sexual offence. incorporated in the Bill. Retaining a DNA record in such cases has significant value, both as a deterrent to the commission of URGENT ORDERS future offences and as an aid to detection if a further offence is committed. The Bill provides for urgent orders where the court is satisfied that the sample or evidence sought is IMMUNITY OF MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS, likely to be lost if the procedure is delayed until the DENTISTS AND OTHER PERSONS final determination of the application. No sample taken pursuant to an urgent order may be analysed Proposed new section 464ZH provides that a until the application has been fully reheard with the medical practitioner, a dentist or a person assisting a suspect present. If the court subsequently finds that medical practitioner or dentist is immune from legal the grounds for making an order are not made out, action in respect of anything properly or necessarily the evidence obtained is inadmissible and the done in the course of conducting a forensic sample obtained must be destroyed. procedure.

Proposed new section 464W establishes a procedure This provision alters or varies section 85 of the for obtaining an order by telephone in certain urgent Constitution Act 1975. Accordingly, I therefore wish cases. Telephone applications will be permitted to make a statement under section 85(5) of the where it is not possible to have the matter heard in Constitution Act of the reasons for altering or person and undue delay would result in the loss of varying that section. The reasons for preventing the evidence. The Bill requires the magistrate, if bringing of an action referred to above are that: possible, to hear the suspect over the telephone (1) without such protection, persons with the when a telephone application is made. The necessary skills may be unwilling to carry out safeguards that apply to urgent orders apply here. forensic procedures, which would undermine the objective of the legislation; In order to ensure that forensic procedures are conducted appropriately, wherever possible,. any (2) the protection presently applies to the taking of police officer assisting in the conduct of the forensic a blood sample. It would be inconsistent if it procedure must be of the same sex as the suspect did not apply to the carrying out of other and will not be one of the officers investigating the procedures authorised by the Bill. offence. The Bill significantly enhances the investigative powers of police by granting them the powers to Where a forensic procedure is being conducted on a obtain names, addresses and fingerprints from juvenile, the child's parent or guardian, or an suspects and establishing procedures for conducting independent person, must be present during the forensic procedures subject to court supervision. The conduct of a compulsory procedure. Bill balances these powers with various safeguards to ensure that the powers are exercised All compulsory procedures conducted in accordance appropriately. with a court order must be videorecorded or witnessed by an independent person, except in the I commend the Bill to the House. case of intimate samples, where videorecording is subject to the suspect's consent. Debate adjourned on motion of Mr SERCOMBE (Niddrie). RETENTION OF THE DNA PROFILE OF SERIOUS SEXUAL OFFENDERS Debate adjourned until Thursday, 3 June. Under proposed new section 464ZF, a person who has been found guilty of a certain serious sexual offence may be ordered by the court to give a blood WATER (AMENDMENT) BILL

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WATER (AMENDMENT) BILL Minister in making such appointments to have regard to the expertise required by the authority Second reading to perform its functions and exercise its powers.

Mr COLEMAN (Minister for Natural The amendment does not affect Melbourne Water or Resources) - I move: the Rural Water Corporation. The change is required to bring arrangements for the appointment of That this Bill be now read a second time. members of boards of management of the non-metropolitan water authorities into line with The purpose of the Bill is to increase the mineral Melbourne Water and Rural Water Corporation and water levy from 1 cent a litre to 1.5 cents a litre and to broaden the choices that the Minister has to make other amendments to the Water Act 1989. constitute the boards of water authorities. The amendment will enable the larger regional MINERAL WATER LEVY authorities to have members with the skills and expertise necessary to manage complex In Victoria mineral water has been recognised since organisations. The water industry has indicated its the 1860s as having special properties worth support for the amendment. protecting. In 1865 the first mineral spring reserve was created and in 1867 the first lease was issued for BORROWING POWERS bottling mineral water. A levy of 1 cent a litre was introduced in 1980 for mineral water extracted Under the current provisions of the Water Act 1989 by persons issued with a ground water licence. The the Minister is required to set a limit for financial 1 cent a litre levy has remained unchanged since it accommodation for each water authority other than was introduced. It is now proposed to increase the the Rural Water Corporation for each year and is levy to 1.5 cents a litre, which is considerably less able to subsequently increase that limit. The Bill than if the levy had been adjusted by the consumer gives the Minister greater flexibility in that it allows price index since its introduction. The increase in the him to also set more than one limit, including lower levy will provide an increase in revenue from limits for authorities during the year, which $360 000 a year to $540 000 a year. provides tighter control over financial accommodation levels. There is water industry The additional revenue will substantially assist in support for the amendment. the timely repayment of a Treasury Advance of $1.5 million that was used to assist the BULK SUPPLY CHARGES redevelopment of the Hepburn Spa complex. Further, the additional revenue from the levy will be For some two years the Rural Water Corporation has directed towards the upgrading of environmental been seeking to recover costs by a charge on urban works to protect the mineral springs. Increased water authorities which extract water from emphasis will be placed on on-ground protective waterways secured and regulated by works and works in the vicinity of the mineral water bores and storages managed by the corporation. The proposed within recognised mineral spring catchments. The amendments will assist the corporation to establish a quality and good name of Victorian mineral water commercial approach to bulk water pricing and will therefore be maintained and this will be of recover the full cost of providing secure bulk direct benefit to the manufacturers and consumers of supplies. The existing subSidy at some $3 million to natural mineral water. all bulk urban supplies will end.

MEMBERSHIP OF AUTHORITIES The amendments will allow the Rural Water Corporation to set charges for such bulk water The Water Act 1989 enables the Minister to appoint supplies in accordance with its business plan, which members of the boards of management of water is considered annually by the Minister for Natural authorities. However, the Water Act prevents the Resources. The government has given a commitment Minister from appointing more than three members that the Rural Water Corporation will consult water to a water authority unless the authority has no authorities during the development of its business functions other than waterway management. The plan regarding pricing and the level of services. The purpose of the amendment is to remove the amendments also provide for payment by an restriction on the number of members the Minister authority within 28 days. can appoint. The amendment also requires the LOY YANG B (AMENDMENT) BILL

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I commend the Bill to the House. Proposed new section 12A has been drafted on the advice of senior Parliamentary Counsel to make Debate adjourned on motion of Ms MARPLE clear that the two forms of rights are to coexist in (Altona). this transaction. It is also proposed to repeal sections 33, 35 and 36 of the Act. Debate adjourned until Thursday, 3 June. Section 33 requires that a nominee of the Leader of LOY YANG B (AMENDMENT) BILL the Parliamentary Liberal Party formally approve any provisions of the final contract documents not Second reading strictly in accordance with the original heads of agreement. At the conclusion of the transaction last Mr STOCKDALE (Treasurer) - I move: year, the Leader's nominee, the Minister for Energy and Minerals, ratified the actual contracts in final That this Bill be now read a second time. form. Accordingly, the arrangements established by section 33 are not necessary and it was decided that In 1992 the State Electricity Commission sold a section 33 should be repealed. 51 per cent interest in the Loy Yang B power station to the Mission Energy company. Although initiated Section 35 requires that the Auditor-General review by the previous government, the sale was supported Victoria's debt position to ensure that funds received by the coalition when in opposition and completed from the sale of the power station are used to reduce by this government after the October 1992 State State debt. The Auditor-General has advised that the election. net proceeds from the sale were used by the SEC to reduce its debt. The Auditor-General has indicated The Loy Yang B Act was passed before the that differences in the timing of agencies completing finalisation of the terms of the contracts for the sale. their financial accounts precludes the completion of It has since become clear that a number of an audit of the total State debt position by 30 June, amendments to the legislation are necessary. Some as required in the Act. The provision was included amendments are of a housekeeping nature and some in the Act to satisfy the then opposition that the net are more Significant. The present Bill will make the proceeds of the sale would be used to reduce State required amendments. The Act sets up debt. Accordingly, the audit mechanism is no longer arrangements to ensure the financial security of the necessary and it is therefore proposed to repeal transaction. The Bill introduces an amendment to section 35. overcome a technical legal problem within the security arrangements. It was originally intended that 11 per cent of the power station would be owned by the company The power station owners will have defined Victorian Power Station Investments Pty Ltd, which, financial obligations to the SEC such as payments in turn, would be owned by various public sector for ongoing construction of the station and for coal financial investors. Under section 36 of the Act the supply. As security for those obligations, the SEC Minister for Energy and Minerals is required to will have certain charges, or mortgages, over the report annually to Parliament which institutions are project. At the same time, under certain involved. As the company has no interest in the circumstances, the SEC will have a right to power station, that procedure is now redundant. For compulsorily purchase the power station - this is that reason it is proposed to repeal section 36. known as a call option. Although in practice those remedies are extremely unlikely to be needed, most I commend the Bill to the House. major commercial transactions include provisions like one of these. Debate adjourned on motion of Mr THOMSON (Pascoe Vale). Both charges and call options are agreed by the parties to be required in the Loy Yang B transaction. Debate adjourned until Thursday, 3 June. Legal advice has suggested that without statutory clarification the combination of charges and call ADJOURNMENT options could raise a technical legal difficulty known as a clog on the equity of redemption. Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and Employment) - I move: BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

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That the House, at its rising, adjourn until a day and committee, which the opposition suggests is the hour to be fixed by Mc Speaker, which time of meeting Standing Orders Committee, should inquire into shall be notified to each member of the House. and report on the programming of both government and general business of the House to provide for a Motion agreed to. more efficient and effective use of Parliamentary debating time. So far we have had to endure the BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE shocking tactics employed by the government. Members of Parliament on both sides of the House Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and have admitted to being tired, overtired or, in some Employment) - I move: obvious and understandable cases, exhausted, yet the government has provided no proper That remaining business be postponed. programming of Government Business for the orderly and proper debate of Bills. That has Mr KENNAN (Leader of the Opposition) - I happened because the government has sought not to move: communicate with the opposition; it has not even tried to tell the opposition what it is doing. That the following words be added to the motion: "after the House has considered a motion referring Last night was another example. One had to ask power to the Standing Orders Committee to inquire about rumours from Parliamentary attendants, and report on the programming of Government and drivers or Hansard as to whether the House would General Business of the House to provide for more adjourn at midnight or sit right through the night. efficient and effective use of Parliamentary debating Last night the rumours were rife around the time and directing the committee to report not later building. We did not know whether the House than the first sitting of the spring 1993 sittings period". would adjourn at midnight or 3 a.m. or whether the government would pull on another all-nighter and This is the second sessional period since the election wind up at 11 a.m. or 12 midday the following day. in October last year of the coalition government. There is no need for those guerrilla tactics to be held Neither sessional period has been in any sense over the heads of members of Parliament. I am not satisfactory in the programming of government or suggesting that government backbenchers were in general business. The government has not on it; I suspect they were as confused as the communicated anything to the opposition about opposition about when the House might rise. how it proposes to deal with Government Business. It appears from comments made by government Three weeks ago when the Minister for Planning members to me that that was also the case this deputised for the Leader of the House who he was afternoon. That is no way to run a Parliament. The interstate on government business, we had the orderly way for the matter to be resolved is to refer extraordinary situation where the Minister simply the matter to the Standing Orders Committee, which kept the House going all night. In an attempt to can examine the issues, consider what has happened prevent that situation arising again debates on some in the past two sessional periods and report to 46 Bills have been guillotined over an 11-week Parliament. Over the next 14 weeks when sitting period -a decade's worth of guillotines in Parliament is not sitting, the all-party Parliamentary 11 weeks. Standing Orders Committee has the opportunity to properly examine the issues, discuss them and The Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill was report to Parliament. wheeled in last night, guillotined and passed - and I understand this House is not sitting tonight or I hope the government will accept the amendment. tomorrow. It is obviously a form of guerrilla tactics If it does not, the opposition will be at a total loss to on the part of the government. The Standing Orders understand why it will not agree to the proper Committee issued a report in the previous running of the House. If the amendment is not Parliament, but as I understand it that committee acceptable to the government, it is proof that the has not met at all or only briefly since 3 October. government wishes to continue with its current program of guerrilla tactics on a serious and If the House is to retain any credibility as a proper important matter - the length and efficient use of debating Chamber, as a place where the minority is the debating time of Parliament for both government entitled to express its view on behalf of half the and general business. population of Victoria, it is clear that an appropriate BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

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It is ludicrous that the House should have a couple Australian model, the European model, the House of of late nights with debate on many Bills being Representatives model-particularly the daily guillotined and then suddenly, after honourable running sheets, or blue programs, that are members had expected to sit on Friday, for the prepared - and the Commonwealth Senate model. House not sit to on Friday. Only a few weeks ago the House sat right through the night and knocked off At the beginning of the 52nd Parliament the House just before midday. The public, the media and most established a new Standing Orders Committee, members of Parliament privately think it is absurd. which is one of the traditions of this place. I should There is no doubt that with goodwill this issue can like the committee to be given the opportunity to easily be resolved. The opposition is simply seeking examine the options paper, just as I would like to see to refer the matter to the Standing Orders the Standing Orders Committee re-examine and Committee as the appropriate committee to deal finalise the report that was so nearly finalised in with it. The opposition is at a loss to understand August and September last year. why the government is reluctant to use the Standing Orders Committee and why it has been reluctant to It is important that the government use the Standing use it since 3 October last year. Orders Committee to gain bipartisan advice on how Parliament may be better run. Because of the hours The opposition believes the proper way fo~ the that the House has been forced to sit since the House to deal with the matter is to require the election of the coalition government, it is only a Standing Orders Committee to inquire into the matter of time before a member of the House or a matter and report to the House so that honourable staff member keels over. It is inevitable that sooner members can more sensibly use the hours available or later the House will be speaking to a condolence for debating items of government and general motion because of the strains put on the health of business. members and staff.

Mr ROPER (Coburg) - I strongly support the There are many ways of dealing with the issue; it is amendment before the Chair. Over the past 11 not simply a matter of the better programming of weeks of sitting the House has seen, as the government business. As has happened in Canberra, honourable member for Springvale put so well last the existing Sessional Orders that govem opposition night, not only an assault on good sense and good and private members' business need to reviewed. legislative practice but also on the health of Those matters could be dealt with Simultaneously. members and staff. There have been more guillotine motions - nearly 50 - in the space of 11 weeks of The House would have been better served had the Parliamentary sittings under this government than government adopted the arrangements that applied there were in a decade of Labor government. during the last term of the Labor government, when late nights were a rarity and when, on most During the 10 sitting weeks of the coalition Thursday evenings, members were able to go home government the House has sat after midnight - on or to attend functions in their electorates at 7 o'clock, many nights, well after midnight - more often than rather than having to stay here until 4 o'clock the the House did during the last three years of the following moming. Those arrangements allowed Labor government, and even many members on the adequate debating time on Budgets and other other side of the House believe that to be important Bills. Between 50 and 60 members spoke undesirable. The contrast between the government's on each of the last three Budgets introduced by the management of the business of the House and the previous Labor government, each debate taking up way it was managed by the previous Labor more than 25 hours. government is stark. By contrast, the government has already guillotined Last year, after unsuccessful efforts to discuss the two Budget and Supply-type debates. Only 20 issue with the coalition parties, I moved that the members were given the chance to speak during Standing Orders Committee report to the House on those debates, six or seven of whom were the programming of government and general government members faced with the daunting task business. At the end of the 51st Parliament the of defending the Treasurer. committee had prepared an options paper in which a number of preferred models were suggested. I Last night members saw a classic example of bad commend that options paper to honourable programming. The Leader of the House allocated members, especially its analysis of the South only 1 hour and 30 minutes for debate on the ADJOURNMENT

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Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill. Tonight Honeywood, Mr Steggall,Mr the House will adjourn at dinner time; and the Hyams,Mr Stockdale, Mr Friday the Leader of the House advised all of us to }enkins, Mr Tanner, Mr keep available for Parliamentary business will not be John, Mr Tehan, Mrs needed because the government has run out of Bills. Kennett, Mr Thompson, Mr Of course the House has other matters to deal with. Kilgour, Mr Traynor, Mr It would be interesting to debate the motion moved Leigh,Mr Treasure, Mr by the honourable member for Doncaster seeking to Lupton, Mr Turner,Mr praise the Treasurer. That would be even more McArthur, Mr Wade,Mrs interesting after what happened last night! McGiII,Mrs Weideman, Mr McGrath, Mr J.F. Wells,Mr The matter is serious. The Leader of the House McLellan,Mr should have referred those issues to the Standing Orders Committee and asked it to prepare a report Amendment negatived. for the consideration of honourable members. That would have enabled the introduction of a new set of Motion agreed to. Standing Orders and Sessional Orders in time for the spring sessional period. The failure to refer matters ADJOURNMENT such as those to the Standing Orders Committee is a reflection on the government and its attitude to the Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and proper running of Parliament. Employment) - I move:

House divided on amendment: That the House do now adjourn.

Ayes, 25 Leeds Media and Communication Services Andrianopoulos, Mr Micallef, Mr Baker, Mr Mildenhall, Mr Mr KENNAN (Leader of the Opposition) - I Coghill, Or Pandazopoulos, Mr refer to the Premier the Leeds Media row and the Cunningham, Mr Roper,Mr scandal referred to in the Sunday Age. I refer him Oollis,Mr Sandon, Mr especially to the apparent quandary about what the Garbutt, Mrs Seitz, Mr Premier said to the House at question time today, Haermeyer, Mr Sercombe, Mr that the Mojo firm had the master media agency Hamilton,Mr Sheehan, Mr until December and that DDB Needham will take it Kennan, Mr Thomson,Mr over after then. Kirner, Ms Thwaites, Mr Leighton, Mr Vaughan, Or As was indicated at question time, Leeds Media and Loney, Mr (Teller) Wilson, Mrs Communication Services was the only tenderer that Marple, Ms (Teller) had not been accredited because its financial backing was inadequate. The House should know how it Noes, 55 was accepted as a tenderer when it was not Ashley, Mr McNamara, Mr accredited; on what basis it will get financial Bildstien, Mr Maughan, Mr backing; what assurances the government has given Brown, Mr Paterson, Mr that the financial backing will be forthcoming; and Clark,Mr Perrin, Mr whom it is from. It is suggested that the financial Coleman, Mr Perton, Mr backing may come from DDB Needham. Cooper, Mr Pescott, Mr Oavis, Mr (Teller) Peulich,Mrs The functions of the master media agency are Dean, Mr Phillips,Mr extensive - more extensive than those of a normal Doyle,Mr Plowman, Mr A.F. media unit. They include being responsible for Elder, Mr Plowman, Mr S.}. advertising by the government and its departments Elliott, Mrs Reynolds, Mr and planning and coordination of Ministerial needs. Finn, Mr Richardson, Mr In other words, Leeds Media will run all the Gude,Mr Rowe, Mr (Teller) government media and advertising. It is effectively a Hayward, Mr Smith, Mr E.R. privatised MiniStry of Truth. It will have powers to Heffernan, Mr Smith, Mr LW. choose advertisers and public relations companies, Henderson, Mrs Spry,Mr ADJOURNMENT

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2347 as well as developing media strategies on behalf of having been given the facts, refused to acknowledge the government. a particular fact and said that the House had been spending some $300 000 more than the money The community should know what the precise allocated in the Budget Papers on silver service in tender process was and whether all of the work is to the Parliamentary dining room. That is a be carried out by Leeds - the Premier was asked mistruth-- about this and failed to provide details. The opposition understands the Premier's extreme The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable sensitivity and the difficulties he is in on this issue. member for Frankston is debating the question.

The opposition wants to know whether the Dr COG HILL (Werribee) -On a point of order, specifications for the total work being carried out Mr Speaker -- and to be carried out by Leeds Media for the government, should the company receive Mr Weideman - You cannot have a point of accreditation and financial backing, were put before order-- the other tenderers. I want an answer from the Premier because he did not reply yesterday. What The SPEAKER - Order! I understood that the do they mean when they talk about the coordination honourable member had finished his point of order. of the government media services -- I rule that the matter raised by the honourable member for Frankston concerns Parliamentary The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable administration and I will not admit it. member's time has expired. Victorian Commission of Audit Parliament House dining room Mr THOMSON (Pascoe Vale) - I ask the Mr WEIDEMAN (Frankston) - I direct to the Minister against Public Transport whether, when he attention of the Minister for Industry and has the time between throwing the switch on Employment a situation that I find to be distasteful: vaudeville as part of his leadership aspirations and I refer to the way the Leader of the Opposition everything else he does, he will do the House the represented both sides of Parliament when talking courtesy of reading the report of the Victorian about the catering and refreshment services on the Commission of Audit. Some comments contained in Ranald Macdonald program on ABC radio last the media today suggest that the Minister is ignorant Tuesday morning. When questioned by of the findings of that commission and the Mr Macdonald about the Mitcham situation -- opposition asks the Minister for Public Transport - who is ignorant about the public transport system - The SPEAKER - Order! The matter raised by to read the recommendations as they relate to public the honourable member for Frankston is one of transport, and particularly the recommendations Parliamentary administration and not of Ministerial that the government should consider raising administration; therefore, I must rule it out of order. revenue from non-users of public transport who benefit from its provisions in order to contribute Mr WEIDEMAN - On a point of order, towards the cost of service improvements. Mr Speaker, I shall define my comments. The Leader of the OppOSition took the opportunity to A range of options is available to the government, misrepresent this House and particularly including a car parking levy, developer honourable members -- contributions on property rates, and a fuel levy to raise significant additional revenue. The Victorian Honourable members interjecting. Commission of Audit considered the revenue initiatives and stated that the options, if supported The SPEAKER - Order! I will allow the by the government, could generate additional honourable member for Frankston to complete his revenue to fund public transport. point of order. It refers to a levy on car parking having been Mr WEIDEMAN - This issue affects every adopted by the New South Wales Parliament, member of the House because the Leader of the indicates its support for that proposition and Opposition's answer followed a question by describes the developer contributions and property Mr Macdonald, and the Leader of the OppOSition, rates for public transport and the fuel levy. It refers ADJOURNMENT

2348 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 to the fact that in the United States some funds from erected, I find the rest of the channel quite safe. It gives the fuel levy are reserved for mass transit purposes easy and safe access to the water's edge. and are made available to local mass transit authorities in a number of forms. He goes on to say that he coaches a successful junior cricket team in Rushworth, the members of which This is not a proposition from some left-wing think get a great deal of enjoyment from fishing in the tank; it is the recommendation of the Victorian channel. Commission of Audit comprising Professor Officer, Russell Walker and others, and which was under the A letter of similar sentiment was contained in the guiding hand of the Institute of Public Affairs. If Waranga News dated 6 May 1993. Mr Graeme Wall of anything, it was a right-wing think tank and the Rushworth writes: proposals are more radical than anything I could insert in the Labour Star. Is this the start of the closure of all district channels? Some people are unaware of the consequence of this Victoria's misfortune is to have a Minister for Public closure as the corporation has the power to virtually Transport who is anti-public transport, who is ban fishing. Channel closures are devastating as it is running down the system and who has reduced the illegal to fish from bridges and extremely dangerous services; he has turned rolling stock into cattle cars, due to traffic. and his actions have resulted in a decline in patronage. Wake up, Minister! The closure will also affect local business. Tourists continually ask about fishing areas. If channels are The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable closed they won't require accommodation, food, bait or member should address the Chair. fishing tackle unless they have a boat to fish from in the Waranga Basin. Mr THOMSON - We know that the Minister has conducted no proper evaluation of any I have received a number of letters in similar vein. A suggestions, whether they be from the commission number of petitions for presentation to Parliament or other august bodies. We do not need his knee-jerk are at present circulating in Kyabram and reaction, demonstrating that the government has Rushworth requesting that the government given up on public transport, that it is dead from the reconsider the closure. neck up when it comes to ideas -- An article appeared in the Kyabram Free Press last The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable week. It quoted the well-known Kyabram outdoors member'S time has expired. enthusiast Mr Ray Kightly, who had expressed his dismay and disappointment at the action by the Waranga-Mallee water channel Rural Water Corporation. I pOint out to the Minister that the closure has particularly deprived elderly Mr MAUGHAN (Rodney) - I direct to the fishermen of a popular fishing spot. The closure will attention of the Minister of Natural Resources the have an adverse effect on tourism as well as closure of the Waranga-Mallee channel between the affecting local businesses because the sale of bait, Rushworth-Tatura Road and Middle Road at food, and so on has diminished. Rushworth. Apparently that channel has been closed to fishing. Local people are dismayed about the I ask the Minister to use his good offices to ensure denial of access to a favourite fishing spot. I add that that the Waranga-Mallee channel between the a tragic double drowning occurred in the channel Rushworth-Tatura Road and Middle Road is about two months ago and I believe the Rural Water reopened for public use and for fishing. Corporation has overreacted and has since virtually roped off the area, banning fishing in the channel. PTC voluntary departure packages

I have received a letter from Mr David Baldwin of Mr MILDENHALL (Footscray) - I bring a Rushworth. His letter is typical of many that I have matter to the attention of the Minister for Public received, when he states: Transport. Apparently 86 staff from passenger, train and coach operations have accepted the offer of I seldom fish myself but I get great pleasure in taking voluntary departure packages. The Public Transport children of friends of mine fishing in this area. Apart Corporation was required to accept their from the dropbars, which could have danger signs resignations by 30 June this year. Those resignations ADJOURNMENT

Thursday. 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2349 are yet to be lodged. The vrc has now requested The people of Knox and of Monbulk want a police that those employees defer their resignations until presence re-established on the east side of the the end of the year. They have been requested to railway line. I would like to know the current status respond to that request by 14 May this year. of the situation and the chance of getting a 24-hour police station in the area. It has been indicated that 60 to 70 of the staff who have been offered the package and have yet to take Train safety it up already are required to cover staff shortages and to keep services going. I ask the Minister to Ms MARPLE (Altona) - I direct to the Minister investigate and confirm the emerging shortage of for Public Transport the cancellation of the Transit staff and also to indicate what will happen to staff Community Relations Unit. who do not agree to the extension of service. Will the PTC adhere to the original offer that was made to Mr Sercombe interjected. those employees? The SPEAKER - Order! I warn the Deputy City of Knox police presence Leader of the Opposition. I have frowned at him a couple of times and that has had no effect. I tell him Mr LUPTON (Knox) - I refer the Minister for formally that he is out of order. Police and Emergency Services to a commitment given some time ago to the re-establishment of a Ms MARPLE - Five weeks ago that unit of the police presence on the east side of the railway line in Public Transport Corporation was scrapped. An the City of Knox. In response to the matter I raised article in today's Herald Sun headed "Train safety previously the Minister gave a couple of anger" states: undertakings. I am concerned about the timetable for the re-establishment of a police presence. a former inspector with the Transit Community Relations Unit, said he pleaded with the government One of the experiments of the former government not to axe the program which visited about 200 was the centralisation of police. This proved to be an primary and secondary schools a year. unmitigated disaster in the City of Knox. Three police stations were closed and one opened at an This unit delivered education programs on, for allegedly central position. That central position has example, public transport, behaviour while on not been able to feed the eastern area of the city. It is public transport and Neighbourhood Watch. The of great concern to the people of Ferntree Gully, former inspector continues: Bayswater, Boronia and The Basin that there is virtually no police presence whatsoever in the area. By scrapping the unit they've left themselves open because we covered safety and acceptable behaviour. The people of Knox would like that presence to be re-established. A number of options are available. It is amazing that we now have the Minister calling My preference is for a 24-hour police station. Several for an educational program in our schools after the sites are available; the number of vacant buildings is traffic accident at Williamstown. He is calling on due to the recession brought about by the Labor schools to deliver a program after all the cuts that government in Canberra. Unless something is done have already been imposed on them, resulting in shortly the crime rate will continue to climb and the larger classes and much stress in schools. people of the City of Knox will continue to be disadvantaged by the harebrained scheme Although I am pleased that the Minister has agreed introduced by the previous government. to meet with the honourable member for Williamstown, the police, the council and local It is worth noting that under the previous schools with regard to the specific accident, it is government $7 million was committed to the fairly unbelievable that he should be calling now for construction of a police headquarters. The Labor schools to deliver programs when there was already government ended up spending $3.4 million on a unit doing that before it was scrapped by the converting an office complex and then leasing it for Minister and his government. the next 10 years. Even when the building was leased we were paying $750 000 a year over 10 years, The implementation of the program provided by but after all that time we will not own a thing. that unit could easily have been increased in its scope if that was what the Minister wished, but ADJOURNMENT

2350 ASSEMBLY Thursday. 20 May 1993 obviously the government does not want that. The On behalf of my constituents I seek the guidance of Minister has stated that he believes education the Minister for Health as to whether there is any programs would be worthwhile, but will the substance to the press report so that the board of the Minister let us know how they can be delivered hospital can enter the health service arena and when the Transit Community Relations Unit has compete equally with other hospitals in Victoria already been cancelled and school budgets have under the government's case-mix funding policy been cut? without being concerned about having been earmarked for closure or sale. Sandringham and District Memorial Hospital Master agency media service

Mr THOMPSON (Sandringham) - I bring a Mr THWAITES (Albert Park) - I bring to the matter to the attention of the Minister for Health. On attention of the Premier a press release of 10 May 7 May 1993 the Herald Sun published an article this year which indicates that the functions of the headed "Report backs hospital sell-off". It states: proposed master agency media service are far more extensive than those in a normal agency media Public hospitals could be sold to the private sector buying service. In particular the press release under the Audit Commission's controversial provides that every government agency can have its prescription for reviving Victoria's ailing economy ... media done by the master agency media service. This will provide a central point of government Such hospitals could include St George's Hospital in advertising and campaigning. Kew as well as the Sandringham hospital, government sources say. The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable member for Albert Park raises an issue similar to This is a matter of serious concern to the local one raised earlier. community. I believe the board of Sandringham and District Memorial Hospital understands the Mr THWAITES - On a point of order, implications of case-mix funding. It is aware that Mr Speaker, I understand that a question was asked good hospitals that treat more patients will win out about the accreditation of Leeds Media, but I raise a under the new funding arrangement. The main aim general issue about media advertising and the way it of the government in prOViding health services is to can be controlled by the government. look after patients first with the emphasis being on patients and services and not on institutions. The Such a serious issue requires full investigation. board, senior medical staff, nursing staff, operational There could be a conflict of interest leading to staff and the wider Sandringham community would suggestions of jobs for the boys. If a system is like to have the opportunity of securing the established where one company can control all the hospital's future in the longer term and competing media, it is not a matter of whether Leeds Media is on an equal footing with other hospitals in Victoria. accredited. I am explaining why this matter is different from the earlier matter. One can avoid the The history of the hospital has been well defined by tendering process, because the company will not be Mr Harry Nunn, a local resident, sports enthusiast, a subject to the tender rules. It is totally different from former Keeper of Public Records and a man who the accreditation issue because it relates to tendering. served with the Australian Imperial Forces in New Guinea. His book entitled Sandringham: A Most The SPEAKER - Order! It is a fine line. I will Ingenious Hospital charts the history of the hospital. bring the matter to a head; the honourable member has 1 minute. The hospital was established over a 25-year period in the midst of great political and economic Mr THWAITES - There are real concerns about uncertainty. It was opened on 9 March 1964 as a the amount tendered. I am informed that the result of the considerable commitment and effort of successful company tendered for a 2.75 per cent many community groups, local auxiliaries, local commission whereas the unsuccessful tenderers sporting groups and other civic organisations. The asked for 2.5 per cent, which is a lesser amount. hospital fulfils an important role for the people of Earlier in the week the Minister said that Leeds Sandringham. Media estimated approximately half that amount. There is a clear conflict of interest. ADJOURNMENT

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Melbourne to Ballarat cycle race be forced to use buses to the top of Sydney Road and then use the North Coburg tram service, because Mr JENKINS (Ballarat West) - 1 direct to the their only way of getting into town would be by attention of the Minister for Police and Emergency tram along Sydney Road. Any honourable member Services the historic Melbourne to Ballarat cycle who has had the misfortune to use that service well race, which has been held each year since 1895. The knows the difficulties of travel in that area. The race is almost as popular as the Melbourne to honourable member for Tullamarine might not be Warrnambool race. The Sebastopol Cycling Club concerned about this, but the people from the organises the event. Many champions have northern suburbs from Craigieburn South are most competed in the event over the years. The concerned. I have written to the Minister twice to challenging race is held during the winter period ask him about this matter. On the latest along varied routes along the highway. occasion--

The plan is that the race will be run along the The SPEAKER - Order! The honourable freeway. Therein lies the problem. The club member's time has expired. approached the Police Force for permission to escort the cyclists, which has been the procedure each year. Responses However, the club was greeted with the news that it would cost between $3000 and $3500 for a police The SPEAKER - Order! The Minister for escort, which I believe is expensive, and so does the Industry and Employment will reply for the Premier. club! The race organisers are volunteers. They seek sponsorship for the race prizes, but now they are Mr KENNAN (Broadmeadows) - On a point of concerned about how they will raise the $3500. order, Mr Speaker, when the matter was raised the Premier was in the House. It is of great concern to As a regular traveller along that roadway 1 know the opposition that the Premier is not here to how the Police Force raises revenue using speed respond, because the matter was raised earlier cameras. 1 have calculated that 21 speeding fines during question time and is of public interest. would pay for the police escort. 1 ask the Minister to examine the matter to see whether, as a public Mr Honeywood interjected. relations exercise, the police will allow members of the road patrol to protect the race route. This would Mr KENNAN - Honourable members opposite be an excellent public relations exercise because, ought to remember that they often raised the same after all, we have a caring government. 1 should like point of order in the past. the race to continue and not be cancelled because of excessive charges for a police escort to protect The SPEAKER - Order! 1 have heard sufficient cycliSts. to rule on the point of order. The question raised by the Leader of the Opposition does not come within Upfield railway line the capacity of the Chair. There is no point of order.

Mr ROPER (Coburg) -I direct to the attention of Mr GUDE (Minister for Industry and the Minister for Public Transport his refusal to Employment) - It was interesting that the Leader of involve himself in consultations with commuters in the Opposition made reference to this particular the Brunswick, Coburg and Broadmeadows areas on event. It has been raised several times. 1 should have the Upfield railway line. The councils, other local thought it had been dealt with adequately; it has members and 1 have asked the Minister to involve been explained on several occasions by the Premier himself in consultations about the future of the and other Ministers. If only the Leader of the railway line, which is currently used by between OppOSition would close his mouth and give his ears 12000 and 16000 people a day. That is somewhat a chance! more than the number using the Alamein line which goes through the Premier's electorate but which 1 It was interesting that the honourable member understand was marked for closure some time later mentioned the Ministry of Truth. 1 should have this year. thought that if any honourable member in the House would know about the MiniStry of Truth it would Significant local concern has been expressed - certainly be the honourable member opposite. When whether people took a position on the light rail or his party was in office we saw the media in this State not - that the line will be removed and people will sanitised. A massive media structure was put in ADJOURNMENT

2352 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 place by the Cain government. It used its mates clear on current projections that more than 4000 will mercilessly throughout the media system. They have left by 30 June. wined and dined and wrote media press releases. As I have said previously in the House, there is no To return to the issue raised by the Leader of the doubt that we are doing our best to accommodate Opposition I shall quote from a statement made by the desires of those people to leave the service, many the Chairman of the State Tender Board, which puts of whom have made financial or other commitments the issue to rest once and for all. The matter has been such as moving interstate, purchasing or upgrading raised in the House and quoted previously. My accommodation or purchasing small businesses. I answer will also suffice for the honourable member have instructed the staff of the PTC so far as is for Albert Park, whose issue was basically the same, possible to accommodate the requests. despite his protestations to the contrary. The voluntary departures will lead to shortages of On 18 May 1993 the Chairman of the State Tender staff in some areas and we will need to transfer Board, Mr Steve Black, made the following people from within PTC to those areas. It is clear statement: that the government is prepared to look after the staff of the PTC, in marked contrast to the actions of The contract for the Master Media Buying Agency the former Labor government. I will continue to try Service was approved by the State Tender Board on 12 to help people depart if it helps them and their March 1993 in accordance with Treasury regulation 85. families and is in their long-term interests. I will do that even if it means creating shortages in some Approval followed an examination of the departmental areas and even though that creates difficulties for submission by officers of the State Tender Board over a the government because it becomes necessary to two-week period. The Tender Board also sought transfer people to fill the vacancies. further information from Mr Bennett at a hearing. Tender Board procedures followed were consistent The same situation exists, although the honourable with established practice and the requirements of the member did not raise this point, in the tram and bus Treasury regulations. areas - many people wish to leave the service. When the former government was in office the The issue should now be put at rest. Due process has natural attrition rate in some areas was 100 per cent been carried out and it is time the temporary Leader a year - in numerical terms there was a turnover of of the Opposition woke up to himself! the entire number of the staff in some areas because people were so disgruntled with the former Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - government and the way it had kicked them around. The honourable member for Footscray referred to the number of staff in the Public Transport I now turn to the question raised by the honourable Corporation and to train and coach operations. The member for Coburg about what is to happen in the government's expectations were exceeded by far future with the rail corridor and the service that is when it put on offer a voluntary redundancy known as the Up field line. Unlike the government of package. The government was surprised with the which he was part, the current government is not large number of people who wished to depart the prepared to indulge in doing the wrong thing when service of the corporation - they were clearly the proper processes are already in place. disgruntled after 10 years of being kicked from pillar to post by the former government and had made The honourable member for Coburg well knows that plans well before the State election to go on and do there is a process in place, which the government other things with their lives. has agreed with the unions to allow to run its course - something that is foreign to the We have had not dozens or hundreds, but honourable member for Coburg. thousands, of people tell us that they are more than happy to accept the voluntary redundancy package The honourable member for Coburg accused me of that is on offer. It is obvious those people see the being non-consultative. Over the years Labor package as very much in their financial interests members of Parliament have called me many things, because they have accepted it voluntarily. As of but the cruellest blow of all was to be called today, over the past seven months more than 3400 non-consultative, especially when I have held employees have accepted the voluntary redundancy discussions ad nauseam with people and interest package and have left the employ of the PTc. It is groups - something the honourable member for ADJOURNMENT

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Coburg as Minister for Transport refused point The Kids In Danger program, which aims to act as a blank to do. My preparedness to consult and deterrent to juveniles and first time offenders, is not negotiate has resulted in a great outcome for the sufficiently focused and is not presented in an members those unions represent, and a great appropriate manner. outcome for Victoria. What a pity the honourable member for Coburg did not see fit to do that when Mr ROPER (Coburg) - On a point of order, he was Minister for Transport! Mr Speaker, the Minister for Public Transport is referring to a number of pages of a document. Will As a result of the cooperation it received, the the Minister make that document available to the government agreed to await the outcome of the House once he has completed his answer? proper processes that are now in place. An environmental effects statement is currently being Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - I undertaken involving local and other groups. am quoting the relevant points and am not reading from all the pages. The answer is no. If one examines the agreement between the government and the rail unions one finds direct Mr ROPER (Coburg) - On a further point of reference to the government awaiting the outcome order, Mr Speaker, I direct to your attention the of the environmental effects study on the future of ruling on reading from a file. In particular, I direct to the Upfield line. The agreement was reached with your attention the ruling given in the case of the the government by the unions under the supervision Victorian Institute of Marine Sciences file which was of the Trades Hall Council. The last thing I would brought into this House by the then honourable want to do is interfere with the process that is now member for Polwarth during the debate on in place. The government will await the outcome of legislation of the marine sciences institute. During the process before deciding what will be the next that debate the Minister referred to a number of step in the future of the Up field rail corridor. If the pages of a document and the Speaker on that honourable member wants to see someone who is occasion said that when reference is made to a non-consultable and has proved it over the years, he number of pages of a file, the file must be made should look into the mirror in the morning when he available. shaves. The SPEAKER - Order! Previous Speakers have I regret the necessity to now turn to what will be a ruled in similar matters. In one case in point Speaker lengthy but important response to a question Plowman ruled: concerning recent events that I hope had no sinister overtones. I make it dear that the government was Members or Ministers quoting from public documents not happy with what was undertaken by the former in debate must be prepared to table those particular government in respect of educating children on documents - but not necessarily the complete file in safety in public transport. That education which such documents are contained- encompasses things such as using level crossings and the use of rolling stock, and the ever-present Is the Minister prepared to table the appropriate dangers that exist. It would take me more than 2 or 3 pages of that document? hours to read out the briefing note I received some months ago, so I will refer only to the Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - It recommendations on which the government is is not a public document; it is a Ministerial briefing taking action. file.

Part of the issues that were examined concerned the Mr ROPER (Coburg) - On the point of order, fact that the education unit that has been in place for Mr Speaker, any documents or files a member brings some years covers no more than a small percentage into this House from which statements are made to of the total number of schools in the State in a year. this House are public documents. The same rule The schools it visits are typically visited only once a applies if during the adjournment debate a member year. The program at present, as was the case under is reading out a letter containing a complaint. the former government, is generally presented in a Although the member has privilege, that letter does proactive way which, although it is positive, impacts not, and a demand can be made for it to be laid on on the availability of resources for reactive visits to the table. The point I am raising is that when a schools whose students regularly cause problems. Minister brings a document or a file into the Parliament and quotes from that file he is obligated ADJOURNMENT

2354 ASSEMBLY Thursday, 20 May 1993 to make that document or file available to the should be charging enterprises such as the Salvation Parliament. Army for carrying their freight around Victoria. In the early hours of this morning the government, on The Minister may not have been aware of the clear his behalf, outlined part of Labor's new policy in ruling made by Speaker Wheeler in the case of the transport, which relates to keeping motorists out of marine sciences institute file. I am aware of it Melbourne. because there were many useful matters contained in that file. Clearly the Labor Party policy is to adopt what was recommended by the audit commission. The Mr KENNAN (Leader of the Opposition) - On honourable member for Pascoe Vale has advocated the same point of order, Mr Speaker, the Minister that the present government should implement that does not want to table the document because it is a policy. The government is implementing the Ministerial brief. Is he saying that there are different strategy it has clearly spelt out and on which the classes of documents? The Minister is clearly government has reached agreement with the unions. covering something up. Obviously the contents of the document must contradict the impression that he The changes the government is making will not go has given and he is quoting selectively. as far as what has been advocated by the audit commission, because not all of its recommendations The SPEAKER - Order! I have heard sufficient should be accepted by any responsible government. on the point of order. The matter is clear and again I The honourable member for Pascoe Vale is refer to Speaker Plowman's ruling, which states: effectively putting forward Labor Party policy. Not all of the recommendations in the audit commission A request may be made for the tabling of a complete report are accepted by the government, the business file but this remains the choice of the member or community or me. Minister concerned. The tabling of private letters and memoranda, or public documents which are Mr McNAMARA (Minister for Police and confidential or which may cause injury to the public Emergency Services) - The honourable member for interest, cannot be insisted upon and, accordingly, Knox raised a matter relating to the lack of adequate members should refrain from quoting from these police services in the Boronia area. This is an documents in debate. important matter and has been raised on several occasions. I rule that the Minister must table the document unless he can classify it as being confidential. He can Mr ROPER (Coburg) - This point of order, do so at the conclusion of his speech. Mr Speaker, relates to the document that the Minister for Public Transport was instructed to Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - table. Governmenrmembers are now looking at the The government must now go to great lengths of document and I believe it is appropriate that the upgrading what was put in place by the former document should be provided to the Clerk so that it government, which knew that the program was can be tabled. nowhere near good enough. The government has taken great steps to improve this program. The SPEAKER - Order! The document will be tabled. The government has regard for the education process, but what has been provided by the PTC has Mr McNAMARA - In response to the not been adequate for the money that has been spent honourable member for Knox, the importance of on it. The Kids in Danger program has been in need having a police presence in the Boronia area is of upgrading for years. This government is Significant to that community. As the honourable conscious of that, and has taken steps so that can member pointed out, a number of police stations occur. serving that community were closed prior to the last election and a new police complex was built in the Once again the honourable member for Pascoe Vale Knox area some 8 kilometres from where the old has raised the matter of the Victorian Commission of Boronia police station was situated. The government Audit. This is most definitely his swan song in any must take measures to ensure that it commits itself way, shape or form in the handling of transport to providing a police presence in the Boronia area. issues on behalf of the Labor Party. Today at question time he suggested that the government ADJOURNMENT

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2355

I have been discussing several options with police me an article in the Herald Sun on 7 May headed command. The first is to take no action and continue "Report backs hospital sell-off". One of the hospitals to service the Boronia area from the Knox complex. referred to in that newspaper article is the 'That clearly is unsatisfactory so far as the Boronia Sandringham hospital. The honourable member for community is concerned. The second option is to Sandringham has diligently and dutifully reopen the old Boronia police station, which is an represented the interests in his electorate in the time old weatherboard building. I do not believe it meets he has been a member of this place. the requirement for the level of policing service that the community now wants. The third option is to He has indicated to me the concerns raised by the construct or lease a shop-front facility and provide a hospital board of management, the staff and the limited 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. service. The final option is to consumers of health services in that area. He has construct or lease a site for a 24-hour station to outlined the history of the Sandringham hospital, service the larger Boronia area. the community interest and input to retain that hospital since it started in 1984. The minimum establishment for a 24-hour station is 2 senior sergeants, 7 sergeants, 24 constables and at One of the attributes Sandringham hospital has, and least 2 to 3 public servants. I am confident that we will no doubt need in the coming years, is summed will move towards announcing the establishment of up in the title of a book by Harry Nunn, a new 24-hour station complex to service that Sandringham: A Most Ingenious Hospital. The book community. It will be done in consultation with gives a history of the hospital, and attributes such as local government and the local members who have ingeniousness will be put to the full test as we move agitated strongly. If it were not for the perseverance towards the implementation of changed funding of the honourable member for Knox the Boronia formulas and the dual goal of restoring financial community would not celebrate the establishment of stability and a surplus Budget while still providing a police service within that region. The community services in the health system. Hospitals will require owes a great debt to the honourable member for his a number of attributes and skills, and ingeniousness contribution to the Boronia community and his is one of them. commitment to ensuring that the area is well serviced. The Sandringham hospital will continue to provide services to its patients. Recently the hospital entered The honourable member for Ballarat directed my into a contract with the Monash Medical Centre to attention to the Melbourne to Ballarat cycle race for treat at the Sandringham hospital patients who are which police supervision will cost an estimated currently on the waiting list of the Monash Medical $3000. The honourable member may not be aware Centre. That ingenious arrangement between a that Cabinet recently accepted a procedure that was major hospital and a smaller feeder hospital is the adopted by the previous government for the sort of innovative and creative ways smaller charging of police services where those services hospitals must use to position themselves to take full place on police a requirement additional to what advantage of the changed funding arrangements would normally be required by the existing services. that will be introduced in Victoria from 1 July.

Options are available to organisations or bodies The honourable member for Sandringham wanted running events, especially when they do not have me to indicate to the people of Sandringham that the major sponsors, when there is not a large charge on government has no plan or intention of closing, the participants that would enable them to pay that amalgamating or privatising the Sandringham contribution or when events are conducted for hospital. charitable purposes and so on. The general thrust of government policy is that where they add to tourism We will plan to ensure that services to patients or provision of a major or community event throughout Victoria are maintained and increased. supervision will be provided. I will take up the We will be dependent on hospitals such as the matter raised by the honourable member to see if the Sandringham hospital in meeting that global event falls within those criteria; if it does a decision requirement. Those hospitals that are well will be made by me about whether a full charge will positioned, have the confidence of the community, be applied. the commitment of the staff, the skills of management and the dedication of their boards will Mrs TEHAN (Minister for Health) - The be able to meet that challenge, and Sandringham honourable member for Sandringham raised with hospital is one of those. ADJOURNMENT

2356 ASSEMBLY Thursday. 20 May 1993

Mr COLEMAN (Minister for Natural I will take up that matter with the corporation and Resources) - The honourable member for Rodney see what arrangements might be made for some sort raised the issue of the denial of access to water of managed access. In essence the situation is that channels coming out of the Waranga weir. The area the corporation will carry a public liability on behalf involved was the site of a double drowning tragedy of its constituent water users, which at the end of the in recent times. day has an impact on price.

These areas are under review by the Rural Water Motion agreed to. Corporation. The corporation was formed by legislation some 12 months or more ago with the House adjourned 7.52 p.m. clear intention of operating as a commercial organisation. On that basis it must fully cover public liability arrangements. The situation raised by the honourable member is one where continuing local access to the channel has been disturbed and I understand the sort of pressures that are felt in Rushworth as a result. QUESTIONS ON NOTICE

Tuesday. 4 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2357

Tuesday, 4 May 1993

QUESTIONS ON NOTICE

The jolluwing answers to questions on notice were circulated: WERRIBEE TRAIN SERVICE - PEAK HOUR PASSENGERS

(Question No. 5) Or COG HILL asked the Minister for Public Transport: What were the estimated numbers of passengers on each afternoon peak hour train service from Melbourne to Wenibee on each day for which records were collected in the periods 1 January 1993 to 26 March 1993 and 1 January 1992 to 24 December 1992, including any available figures on the number of passengers embarking and disembarking at each station on those occasions?

Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - The answer is: The following passenger counts were all taken at North Melbourne station as this is generally the peak loading point for Werribee line trains. The data is for the peak period between 4.00 p.m. and 6.00 p.m.

1993 TRAINS

16:12pm 16:31pm 16:51pm 17:15pm 17:32pm 17:50pm 5.1.93 210 500 140 420 500 230 11.1.93 220 300 160 420 430 190 19.1.93 430 490 190 560 570 250 27.1.93 390 480 180 510 Cancelled 730 4.2.93 350 500 330 450 430 160 8.2.93 230 340 290 560 570 180 17.3.93 460 520 280 560 580 350 18.3.93 470 550 430 380 590 350 22.3.93 330 450 280 570 630 260 QUESTIONS ON NOTICE

2358 ASSEMBLY Tuesday, 4 May 1993

1992 TRAINS

16:12pm 16:31pm 16:48pm 17:12pm 17:32pm 17:50 21.1.92 422 351 423 257 346 315 5.2.92 440 550 750# 560 450 500* 2.3.92 560 490 560 700 470 430 25.5.92 490 490 570 630 540 300 17.8.92 440 480 950* 790 Cancelled 510 6.10.92 520 480 520 750 420 340

# Previous Williamstown train cancelled * Previous St.Albans train cancelled

Figures on the number of passengers embarking and disembarking at each station are not available. However, for the information of the honourable member, the Public Transport Corporation estimates that of passengers travelling beyond Newport approximately 55 per cent travel on to either Werribee or Hoppers Crossing.

WERRIBEE TRAIN SERVICE - TIMETABLES

(Question No. 6) Or COGHILL asked the Minister for Transport: In respect of his letter dated 26 March 1993 indicating that the Public Transport Corporation had been developing new timetables for the Werribee train line based upon closure of the Williamstown line, but that as a consequence of retention of Williamstown services the current Werribee timetable would remain: 1. What precise factors prevent afternoon peak period Werribee line services being scheduled through the City Loop. 2. What intervals must be scheduled between trains using City Loop tracks during peak periods, indicating the reason(s) for maintaining such intervals. 3. What intervals exist between peak period trains using the City Loop track ordinarily used by Werribee trains. 4. What number of services were provided on the City Loop track used by Werribee line trains during the afternoon peak period for - (a) the timetable in operation up to 24 December 1992; and (b) the current timetable. QUESTIONS ON NOTICE

Tuesday, 4 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2359

Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - The answer is: 1. There are six Werribee line services currently scheduled through the underground loop in the afternoon peak period between 4.00 p.m. and 6.45 p.m. There are many factors which need to be taken into consideration in designing a timetable to fit into the metropolitan rail network. The first and most important considerations, of course, are operational safety and customer loadings.1n the case of the Werribee services, additional factors include: the current operating restraints of the platform facilities at Flinders Street and the track infrastructure, particularly to the north of the underground loop which must deal with country, urban and suburban services; the fact that the northern loop lines which serve Werribee are also being used for services to St Albans, Upfield, Williamstown and Broadmeadows; and the need to provide integrated/coordinated services at North Melbourne. 2. eSt 3.The Public Transport Corporation advises that, generally, the minimum safe interval which must be scheduled between trains using the City Loop tracks is 2 minutes. However, for the northern loop lines, the practical minimum interval is 3 minutes in the peak period. This interval is set by operational requirements mentioned above and restraints of the single platform at Flinders Street station (platform 6), which is the only platform accessible for Werribee loop trains. 4. The number of services provided to Werribee through the City Loop during the afternoon peak for 1992 and 1993 were as follows:

1992 1993 Timetable Timetable (4 pm - 6.45 pm) (4 pm - 6.45 pm)

Loop services 8 6

Total afternoon peak services 8 8 QUESTION ON NOTICE

2360 ASSEMBLY Tuesday. 18 May 1993

Tuesday, 18 May 1993

QUESTION ON NOTICE

The following answer to a question on notice was circulated: SMALL BUSINESS -ANNUAL REPORT

(Question No. 4) Mr ROPER asked the Minister for Small Business: In respect of the report of the Department of Small Business/Small Business Development Corporation dated 21 October and sent to the honourable member for Ivanhoe: 1. Why the report was provided to the honourable member for Ivanhoe. 2. How many copies were printed and at what cost. 3. What action has been taken to ensure a report is prepared in accordance with the Act specifying the number of copies that will be produced and at what cost.

Mr HEFFERNAN (Minister for Small Business) - The answer is: 1. On 21 October 1992, the annual report of the Small Business Development Corporation (SBOC) and the, then, Department of Small Business (DSB), was provided to the Honourable Vin Heffernan, Minister-Designate for Small Business. He was sworn in as Minister for Small Business on 9 November 1992. The annual report was subsequently tabled in the Parliament on 12 November 1992 with the Clerk of the Legislative Assembly. The report was tabled with the approval of, and on behalf of, the Minister for Small Business, the Honourable Vin Heffernan, in compliance with the provisions of the Annual Reporting Act. 2. 1500 copies of the annual report were printed at a total cost of $18 930. This number of reports provided for the normal distributional requirements of the annual report of the SBOC. 3. The annual report was prepared in accordance with the Annual Reporting Act. QUESTION ON NOTICE

Thursday, 20 May 1993 ASSEMBLY 2361

Thursday, 20 May 1993

QUESTION ON NOTICE

The following answer to a question on notice was circulated: (Question No. 12)

WERRIBEE TRAIN SERVICE - TIMETABLES Or COGHILL asked the Minister for Public Transport: Further to the answer to question on notice No. 6, what precise factors which prevent eight Werribee line train services being scheduled through the underground loop in the afternoon peak period between 4.00 p.m. and 6.00 p.m. as was the case prior to 24 December 1992, indicating in particular what factors prevent the 4.51 p.m. train or a train scheduled in substitution for that service, being scheduled through the underground loop.

Mr BROWN (Minister for Public Transport) - The answer is: The Public Transport Corporation advises that the overall factor which prevents two of the eight Werribee line train services being scheduled through the underground loop in the afternoon peak period is the unavailability of paths for the loop service from Flinders Street to Werribee within the 1993 timetable. The particular factors which prevent a train being scheduled to Werribee via the underground loop at about 4.51 p.m. include the use of platform 6 at Flinders Street for other services and the integration of train movements for both suburban and country trains at North Melbourne, South Kensington and other junctions on the Flinders Street to Werribee line. The agreement between the government and the unions regarding changes to the country train services, as outlined in my statement on 30 April 1993, will result in less train services to and from Spencer Street Station. The service alterations will be incorporated into a new timetable presently being developed by the Public Transport Corporation. The changes to the country services and the withdrawal of the City Circle loop trains, together with some other alterations consequential to the government's closure of the Jolimont Train Maintenance Depot, require the corporation to review the 1993 suburban timetable. The review will not significantly alter services, but some minor alterations associated with connecting services and the like in response to requests from patrons will be incorporated. As part of the review, the reconstruction of the timetable to provide a path for a Werribee loop train around 4.51 p.m. will be considered.

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INDEX

Autumn 1993 - VOLS 410, 411, 412

LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY

Index is divided into:

Bills 1-3 Subjects 4 -14 Members 15 -45 Questions on Notice 46

BILLS Accident Compensation (Work Cover Insurance) Caravan Parks and Movable Dwellings Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1258; second (Amendment) Bill - Introduction and first reading, reading, 1372, 1894, 1920; appropriation, 1503; 977; second reading, 1085, 1761; appropriation, 1503; declared urgent, 1918; third reading, 1926. remaining stages, 1764.

Appropriation (1992-93) Bill-Appropriation, 635; Casino Control (Amendment) Bill - Introduction and introduction and first reading, 635; second reading, first reading, 758; second reading, 845, 1422; 635,899, 1049, 1477; Treasurer's corrections, 809; appropriation, 899, 1422; second reading agreed to concurrent debate, 837; declared urgent, 1473; by absolute majority and Committee, 1440; third remaining stages, 1486. reading agreed to by absolute majority, 1445.

Appropriation (Parliament 1992-93) Bill - Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Appropriation, 656; introduction and first reading, Bill - Introduction and first reading, 969; second 656; second reading, 656, 1553; concurrent debate, reading, 1005, 1381; remaining stages, 1422. 837; declared urgent, 1545; Committee and remaining stages, 1555. City of Greater Geelong Bill-Introduction and first reading, 757; second reading, 837, 1152; Audit (Tender Board) Bill-Introduction and first appropriation, 899; second reading agreed to by reading, 976; second reading, 1082, 1764; absolute majority and Committee, 1206; third appropriation, 1503; remaining stages, 1769. reading agreed to by absolute majority, 1216.

Barley Marketing Bill - Introduction and first Club Keno Bill - Introduction and first reading, 1586; reading, 109; second reading, 169,682; Committee, second reading, 1683, 2276; appropriation, 2118; 705; remaining stages, 714. declared urgent, 2269; remaining stages, 2278. Board of Studies Bill-Introduction and first reading, Commercial Arbitration (Amendment) Bill - 512; second reading, 611, 1510; appropriation, 899; Introduction and first reading, 109; second reading, declared urgent, 1508; Committee, 1516; remaining 171,515; second and third readings agreed to by stages, 1545. absolute majority, 527. Council amendments: dealt with, 1618; agreed to by absolute majority, 1619. Business Franchise (Petroleum Products) (Amendment) Bill - Introduction and first reading, Corrections (Management) Bill -Introduction and 1501; second reading, 1592, 1914; appropriation, first reading, 262; second reading, 383, 810, 857, 867; 1634; declared urgent, 1909; Committee and appropriation, 419; Committee, 1007; third reading, remaining stages, 1918. 1023. (2) INDEX

Crimes (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first 1306, 1926, 1996; Committee, 2006; remaining stages, reading, 2193; second reading, 2339. 2008. Crimes (Criminal Trials) Bill-Introduction and first Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill - reading, 1258; second reading, 1357,2137; Introduction and first reading, 262; second reading, Committee, 2154; third reading, 2156. 379,1445; appropriation, 419,1144; Committee, 1459; declared urgent, 1464; Committee, 1472; Crimes (HIV) Bill - Received from Council and first remaining stages, 1473. reading, 1217; second reading, 1259, 1871; remaining stages, 1894. Health and Community Services (General Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, Crown Land Acts (Amendment) Bill- Introduction 1909; second reading, 2010, 2159; second reading and first reading, 1336; appropriation, 1503; second agreed to by absolute majority and Committee, reading, 1504, 2119; remaining stages, 2127. 2163; third reading agreed to by absolute majority, 2164. Debits Tax (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 419; second reading, 513, 1023; Historic Shipwrecks (Amendment) Bill - appropriation, 635; remaining stages, 1047. Introduction and first reading, 1859; second reading, 2008; appropriation, 2118. Docklands Authority (Amendment) Bill­ Introduction and first reading, 1258; second reading, Institute of Educational Administration (Repeal) 1369,1796; appropriation, 1503; remaining stages, Bill-Introduction and first reading, 976; second 1800. reading, 1082, 1719; appropriation, 1503; second and third readings agreed to by absolute majority, 1737. Education Acts (Teachers) Bill - Introduction and first reading, 1257; second reading, 1350,2053; Interpretation of Legislation (Amendment) Bill - appropriation, 1503; second reading agreed to by Second reading, 385, 758; Committee, 758; absolute majority, 2070; Committee, 2070, 2076; third remaining stages, 760. reading agreed to by absolute majority, 2082. Land (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill - Introduction and reading, 758; second reading, 848, 1378; first reading, 1258; second reading, 1367, 1813; appropriation, 899; remaining stages, 1381. Committee and remaining stages, 1828. Land (Crown Grants and Reserves) Bill - Emergency Services Superannuation (Special Introduction and first reading, 262; second reading, Payments) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 382,761; appropriation, 419; second reading agreed 1940; second reading, 2049, 2301; appropriation, to by absolute majority, 766; Committee, 767; third 2118; remaining stages, 2303. reading, 771; third reading agreed to by absolute majority,772. Equal Opportunity (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1859. Land (Miscellaneous Matters) Bill- Introduction and first reading, 977; second reading, 1088, 1800; Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill - Received from appropriation, 1503; second and third readings Council and first reading, 2082; second reading, agreed to by absolute majority, 1807. 2118,2264; declared urgent, 2256; Committee, 2267; remaining stages, 2268. Land Tax (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 513; second reading, 848, 1092; Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill- Introduction and appropriation, 899; remaining stages, 1101. first reading, 976; second reading, 1080, 1645; appropriation, 1503; declared urgent, 1634; Legal Profession Practice (Guarantee Fund) Bill­ remaining stages, 1662. Received from Council, 2115; first reading, 2156; second reading, 2205, 2303, 2315; remaining stages, Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill - Received from 2328. Council and first reading, 341; second reading, 384, 1600; remaining stages, 1618. Local Government (General Amendment) Bill - Introduction and first reading, 1258; second reading, Financial Institutions Duty (Amendment) Bill - 1370,2012; appropriation, 1503; second reading Introduction and first reading, 419; second reading, agreed to by absolute majority, 2038; Committee, 513, 1048; appropriation, 899; remaining stages, 1049. 2038,2087; third reading agreed to by absolute majority,2092. Fore&ts (S.E.A.S. Sapfor Lld Agreement) Bill - Introduction and first reading, 977; second reading, Loy Vang B (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and 1087,1787; remaining stages, 1796. first reading, 2194; second reading, 2343. Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill - Marine (Amendment) Bill - Received from Council Introduction and first reading, 1584; second reading, and first reading, 1048; second reading, 1091, 1807; 1737,1751,2250; appropriation, 2118; declared second and third readings agreed to by absolute urgent, 2239; Committee and third reading, 2255. majority, 1813. Funerals (Pre-Paid Money) Bill- Received from Council and first reading, 1217; second reading, LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (3)

Meat Industry Blll - Introduction and first reading, Superannuation (Compliance) Bill - Introduction 757; second reading, 841,1260; appropriation, 899; and first reading, 1940; second reading, 2049, 2291; Committee, 1279; remaining stages, 1280. appropriation, 2118, 2291; second reading agreed to by absolute majority and Committee, 2300; third Murray-Darling Basin BiIl-Introduction and first reading agreed to by absolute majority, 2301. reading, 513; second reading, 613, 1280; appropriation, 635; section 85 statement, 836; second Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill - Appropriation, 656; and third readings agreed to by absolute majority, introduction and first reading, 656; second reading, 1305. 656,899, 1049, 1477; concurrent debate, 837; declared urgent, 1473; remaining stages, 1486. Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Blll-Withdrawn, 30. Supply (Parliament 1993-94, No. 1) Bill - Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Blll (No. 2)­ Appropriation, 656; introduction and first reading, Introduction and first reading, 108; second reading, 657; second reading, 657, 1553; concurrent debate, 167,419; remaining stages, 434. 837; declared urgent, 1545; Committee and remaining stages, 1555. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Salary) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 108; Tattersall Consultations (Reporting) Bill - second reading, 168,434; appropriation, 202; Introduction and first reading, 1586; second reading, remaining stages, 471. 1683,2332; appropriation, 1719; remaining stages, 2333. Pay-roll Tax (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 758; second reading, 845, 1120; Tertiary Education Bill- Introduction and first appropriation, 899; remaining stages, 1124. reading, 977; second reading, 1083, 1663; appropriation, 1503; declared urgent, 1662; Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill - Introduction Committee, 1671; third reading, 1682. and first reading, 977; second reading, 1090, 1686; appropriation, 1503; declared urgent, 1684; second Treasury Corporation of Victoria (Debt and third readings agreed to by absolute majority, Centralisation) Blll - Introduction and first 1708. reading, 757; second reading, 844, 1144; appropriation, 899; remaining stages, 1152. Racing (Amendment) Bill - Introduction and first reading, 1258; second reading, 1360,2207,2214; Victoria Racing Club (Amendment) Bill, The­ appropriation, 1634; Committee, 2232, 2328; Introduction and first reading, 1859; second reading, remaining stages, 2332. 2009,2333; declared private and motion to treat as public agreed to, 2333; remaining stages, 2339. Residential Tenancies (Water and Utillties Charges) Bill - Introduction and first reading, 1305; second Victorian Plantations Corporation Bill- Introduction reading, 1352,2082; Committee, 2086; remaining and first reading, 1585; second reading, 1759,2127; stages, 2087. appropriatioq, 2118; second reading agreed to by absolute majority and Committee, 2136; third Sentencing (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and reading agreed to by absolute majority, 2137. first reading, 1258; second reading, 1354, 1953; declared urgent, 1941; Committee, 1958, 1968; third Vocational Education and Training (College reading, 1995. Employment) Blll- Introduction and first reading, 262; second reading, 381, 772; appropriation, 756; Sheep Owners Protection (Repeal) Bill - Committee, 808; remaining stages, 809. Council Introduction and first reading, 471; second reading, amendments dealt with, 1619. 514,569; remaining stages, 577. Water (Amendment) Blll-Introduction and first Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) reading, 2193; second reading, 2342. Blll - Introduction and first reading, 109; second reading, 172,527,577,596; Committee, 601, 714; remaining stages, 725.

Stamps (Amendment) BilI-Introduction and first reading, 1080; second reading, 1258, 1595; appropriation, 1503, 1592; declared urgent, 1594; Committee, 1596; remaining stages, 1600. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Blll-Introduction and first reading, 757; second reading, 843,1310; appropriation, 899; declared urgent, 1307; remaining stages, 1323. Subdivision (Amendment) Bill- Introduction and first reading, 1336; second reading, 1505,2157; Committee and remaining stages, 2158. Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Bill-Second reading, 385, 1618; remaining stages, 1618. (4) INDEX SUBJECTS

(liq" refers to question without notice) A ARFO Unit Tnast, 126, 129.

Asbestos - Safety regulations, q 1786. Abattoin (See "Meat Industry") Association of Post-Primary Institutions, 1487. Aboriginal Affain - United Nations International Year of Indigenous Peoples, 356. Royal Commission Attorney-General - Appointment of justices of the into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody, 356. Land rights, peace,883. 356. Health, 357. Funding equity, 358. Compassionate leave for Koori prisoner, 826, 832. Auditor-General- Reports: salinity, 106; National Criminal justice system, 1127, 1130. Racist remarks Tennis Centre Trust and Zoological Board of at AFL match, 1218, 1222. Alleged police brutality, Victoria, 569; visiting medical officer arrangements, 2279,2288. 1336, q 1364; Ministerial portfolios, 1841; timber industry strategy, 2114; infonnation technology in Acddent Compensation Commission (See the public sector, 2175; open-cut production in "WorkCover") Latrobe Valley, 2291; Loy Yang B Act compliance, 2291. Employment contracts, q 1136, q 1253. Address by Minister for Finance, 658, 735, 756. Australasia Marketing Investments - Private Address-In-Reply, 30, 109, 140, 165, 173,203,294,351, insurance cover scheme, Im, 1777. 379,386,849,1633. Australian Chamber of Manufadures - Survey, 489. Advertising - Activities of fonner government, q 1001, q 1964. Government contracts, q 1362. Offensive, 2280, 2283. Australian Football League - Racist remarks at Agenda 21 - Announcement, q 2202. Projects, q 2202. match, 1218, 1~.

Agriculture - Australian Home Insulation Pty Ltd, 1219, 1223. Dqartmnet - Objectives, 369. Veterinary services to racing industry, 1833, 1838. Funding of research Australian Industrial Relations Commission - institutes, 1931, 1936. Budget, 2041. Structure, q 1641, q 2072. Gneerlal- In East Gippsland, 121. Subsidies, 215. Rural assistance, 252, 259. Locust plague, q 292. Australian Institute of Family Studies - Report on 884. Funding, 318, 499. Production: primary industries, small bUSiness, 354; pasture, 369, 1073, 1077, q 1784. In Australian Institute of Judicial Administration - north-eastern Victoria, 372, 379. Liver fluke in Judicial in-service programs on sex offences, 1714. sheep and cattle, 401, 403. Chemicals, 561, 567: Proposed institute for horticultural development, Australian Labor Party - Election campaigns: Federal, q 755, 1073, 1077. Government policies, 977, 995. 210,247,319; State, 324. Record in government, 244, Occupational health and safety program, 1217, 247,249,294,299,300,302,314,316,324,327,335, 1221. Baimsdale Regional Veterinary Laboratory, 391,489,498, q 628, 1236, 1241, 1251, q 1362, 1486, 1712, 1717. Clover growers, 1770, 1774. Seed 1627, q 1746, q 1748, q 1780, q 1866, q 1868,2044, testing and certification, 1770, 1774. Benalla q 2101, q 2103, q 2104, q 2105,2166,2169,2172, regional veterinary laboratory, 2097. (See also q 2313, q 2314. Leadership, 302. Membership "Dairy Industry" and "Animals'') activities of Ms Mary Crooks, q 1967,2038,2042. Public transport policies, 2279, 2284, 2347, 2354. Air Services - Avalon airport upgrade, 402, 405. Australian Loan Council- Borrowing limits, q 13. Alcoa of Australia Ltd, 341.

Alcohol- Funding of dependency services, 1221, B 1224, 1830, 1836. Ballarat Regional Alcohol and Dnag Dependence Ambulance Services - Metropolitan: quality of Association - Funding, 1221, 1224, 1830, 1836. service, 250, 254; funding, 852; appointment of executive officer, 2095. In Goulburn Valley, 1831, Barro Group - Gisborne quarry, 122, 127, 622, 625, 1836. Mobile intensive care units, 1934, 1936. 1829,1834.

Ammunition - Naval storage at Greenvale, 2280, 2286. Batwon Information Network, 1931, 1935.

Animals - Liver fluke in sheep and cattle, 401, 403. Bills -Correction, 108. (See also ''Bills'' list) Dangerous dogs, 727, 730, q 2204. Duck hunting, 727, 730. Outbreak of disease at Kilmore Birds (See 11Animals'') thoroughbred stable, 1833, 1838. Leadbeater's possum, 2094, 2098. BLF Custodian - Reports Nos 21 and 22, 21. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (5)

Broadmeadows Tenant Information Service­ 1078. Closure of Caloola Training Centre, 1243. Funding, 728, 730. Regional residential associations, 1249. Management of residents' funds, 1555, 1559. Budget - Deficit, 208, 310, 353, 360, 363. Expenditure Ivanhoe-Diamond Valley Centre for intellectually ratio, 365. Autumn economic statement, q 411. disabled adults, 1770, 1776. Mayday Hills Training Treasury bills program, q 412, q 413, q 416, 506, Centre, 1933, 1935. q SOS. Cuts, 489, 491. Debt management, 499. General- Funding: for community groups, 151; for Borrowings, q 511. Of former government, q 628. Collective of Self-Help Groups, 151; for Grey Victorian Commission of Audit report, q 1641, Sisters, 153, q 893, q 2107, 2137; for Barwon q 1747, 1841. Agricultural industry, 2041. Information Network, 1931, 1935; for services in north-eastern suburbs, 1934, 1936; welfare, q 2102, Building and Construction Industry - OS eSt C q 2103, q 2104, q 2107, 2137. Supported Developments Pty Ltd, 1327, 1331. Electricity accommodation assistance programs, 149,474, supplies to urban subdivisions, 1770, 1774. Civic 479,1713,1717. Programs in Keilor Downs, 475, building projects, q 2202. Report of Economic 479. Neighbourhood houses, 1932, 1935. Development Committee, 2290. Tendering practices, q 2312. Conservation and Environment - Conservation and Burglar Alarms - Regulation of noise emission, 1623, productivity, 32. Fuel reduction burning, 123, 128, 1630. 398,403. Pollution of Mordialloc Creek, 179, 185. Noxious weed control, 401, 403. Pines Flora and Business and Employment, Department of - Fauna Reserve, 828, 833. South Clayton tip, 856. Employment contracts, q 1745. Private insurance Proposed EPA office in western suburbs, 971, 973. cover scheme, 1772, 1777. (See also ''Industry and Native forest operations, 1556, 1561. River works Employment") near Powelltown, 1773, 1776. In Sandringham electorate, 1774, 1776. Business of the House (See ''Parliament'') Conservation and Natural Resources, Department of - Compulsory unionism, 123, 128. Savings, 123, c 128.

Casinos (See "Gaming") Constitution, Australian - Review, q 891, q 1495, 1563, q 2101. Chemicals - Proposed Hamilton Park warehouse, 38, 42. Storage, 346, 349, 854. Agricultural, 561, 567. Consumer Advocacy and Advice Service - Funding, Dioxin, 855. 729,730.

Children (See "Community Services'') Consumer Affain (See "Fair Trading'')

Chiropradon and Osteopaths Registration Board - Corporations Law - Liquidations, 342, 346. Registrar, 1932,1936. Corrections - Citizens Advice Bureau - Funding, 1931, 1935. General - Rehabilitation for drug-dependent female City of Greater Geelong Bill-Community prisoners, q 634. Compassionate leave for Koori prisoner, 826, 832. Offences of Correctional consultation, 1239. Services Division employee, q 862. Juvenile Collective of Self-Help Groups, 151. offender program, 1711, 1716. Prisons -Security, q 10, q 12, q 14, q 15, q 197,334. Commonwealth Grants Commission - Grant Administration, 109, 142, q 2075. Drugs, 112. relativities, q 627. Reform, 112. Industrial action by officers, q 629. Sale, 1218, 1222. Fairlea, 1559, 1562. Use of Commonwealth-State Relations, 227, 353, q 375, Geelong site, 1769, 1776. q 1499, 1859, q 2200. Country Fire Authority (See ''Fire Services'') Community Services - Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Crime (See ''Police'') 47,75. Mandatory reporting of abuse, 149. Homeless, 150. Children's Court: psychiatric Crooks, Ms Mary - Comments on report of Victorian service closure, 159, 165; representation at, q 1785. Commission of Audit, q 1967,2038,2042. Preschool education budget, q 291. Abuse, q 633, 1220, 1711. Foster care services for disabled, q 865. D Funding for early childhood field officer, 1488. Kindergartens: employment contracts, q 1644; funding, 1930, 1935; Warrawong Day Care, 1932, Dairy Industry - Deregulation, 225. Productivity, 318, 368,499. Pasture production, 369, q 1784. Dairy 1935. Child care, 1711, 1717. Immunisation Week, 473, 477. Development initiatives, 623, 626. program, 1771, 1775. Drownings, 2282,2283. Investment, q 1784. Funding of research institutes, Disability Services - Moira Inc, 148. Turalla Respite 1931,1936. (See also "Agriculture'') Care Service, 180, 186. In Bayswater, 214. Foster care services for children, q 865. Funding, 1074, (6) INDEX

Deaths - Hon. Sir Murray Porter, 1. Hon. Sir George 211,229,245,247,248,320,325,336,487,2194. Reid, QC, 3. Hon. J. H. Smith, 887. Recovery, 174. Management, 317, 331,4B4. Bankruptcies, 330. Debt management, 339, 360, 393, Defence Housing Authority - Rezoning of Laverton q 411, q 511, q 1641, q 1747, q 1748, 1841. In properties, 2280, 2286. Asia-Pacific region, 366. Economic rationalism, 388. Reform, q 592. Survey on manufacturing industry, Distinguished Visitors (See ''Parliament'') q 1001, q 1964. National Australia Bank Quarterly Business Survey, q 1137. Activities of union Divisions -Correction of lists, 18, 1719, 1759. movement, q 1493, q 1496. Agenda 21 projects, Ministerial statement on child protection, 59. q 2202. Business of the House: Grievance days, 140; postponement, 398, 618, 1622, 2093, 2346; Education- continuation of sitting, 1546. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Salary) Bill, 471. Address Dep4rtment - Budget, q 290, 337, q 376, 491, q 893, by Minister for Finance on superannuation, 659, 662, 1128,1132,1624,1627. Carmichael competency 680, 681. Barley Marketing Bill, 713. Shop Trading projects allocations, 472, 476. Directorate of School (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Bill, 725. Land Education, q 629, q 630, q 634, q 863, q 2074. (Crown Grants and Reserves) Bill, 771. Vocational Voluntary departure packages, q 1004. Education and Training (College Employment) Bill, Gener41-School closures, 118, 127, 131,253,254, 807. Corrections (Management) Bill, 880, 1023. q 415, q 754, q 755, q 865, 1125, 1126, 1131, q 1135, Naming and suspension of member for Springvale, q 1139. Confidence in State system, 156. In Keilor, 1104. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1208, 1209, 1212, 219. South-Eastern Corridor Education Task Force, 1216. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 1307, 249, 254. Literacy standards, 253, 254. Services, 1310, 1322. Casino Control (Amendment) Bill, 1440, 313. Government policies, 325, 491. Language 1441. Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, studies, 340. School cleaning contracts, 346, 348, 1458, 1462, 1463, 1464, 1472, 1473. Appropriation 492,563,565,728,1126,1131,1132. Work (1992-93) Bill, 1473, 1476, 1477, 1485. Supply experience, 346, 402, 405. School Safe program, (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1473, 1476, 1477, 1485. Board of 403, 405. Kalparri program, 471, 476. Tottenham Studies Bill, 1508, 1510, 1516. Appropriation Language Centre, 475, 476. Victorian certificate of (Parliament 1992-93) Bill, 1545, 1553. Supply education, 493. School councils, 620, 624. School (Parliament 1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1545, 1553. Republic sports, 727, 731, 1127, 1132, 1241, 1243. Institute of Advisory Committee, 1584. Business Franchise Educational Administration, 880. Zoning of school (Petroleum Products) (Amendment) Bill, 1594, 1909, properties, 971, 973. School retention rate, 1129, 1913,1917. Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1594. Ethnic 1133. Schools of the Future, q 1254, q 1499, 2096. Affairs Commission Bill, 1634, 1640, 1661. Tertiary School grounds maintenance, q 1254. Education Bill, 1662,1682. Police Regulation Superannuation contributions, 1487, q 1497, (Discipline) Bill, 1684, 1685, 1707. Institute of q 1642. Role of school principals, 1622, 1627, 1708, Educational Administration (Repeal) Bill, 1736. 1713, q 2073. Assistance for deaf students, 1623, Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 1757, 1627. Facilities in Mill Park, 1625, 1627. Interest 1758,2239,2250,2255,2256. Victorian Commission subSidy program, q 1782. Teaching of Indonesian of Audit report, 1859. Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1894. language, q 1785. Accident Compensation (WorkCover Insurance) School EduC4tioft - In north-western suburbs, 33. Bill, 1909, 1918, 1919,1925, 1926. Sentencing Northlands Secondary College, 33. Reorganisation (Amendment) Bill, 1941, 1952, 1958, 1995. of schools, 40, 42. Debney Park High School, 158. Superannuation (Compliance) Bill, 2052. Education Flemington High School, 158. Monterey Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2081. Employment: Secondary College, 229. Essendon/East Keilor participation rate, 2193. Racing (Amendment) Bill, District College, 237. Redbank Primary School, 2236,2239,2331. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, q 291, q 292. Donvale Primary School, 312. 2256. Club Keno Bill, 2269. Legal Profession Practice Parkdale Secondary College, 343, 347. Sunbury (Guarantee Fund) Bill, 2327. Secondary College, 345, 348, 1324, 1330. Bairnsdale Primary School, q 377. Joseph Banks Secondary Dredging - In Western Port, q 1749. College, 387. Lakes Entrance Primary School, 399, 404. Oberon High School, 559, 564. Doncaster Park Drugs (See "Corrections" and ''Police'') Primary School, 560, 565. Merriang Special Developmental School, 621, 624. St Bernadette's DS &t C Developments Pty Ltd - Unfulfilled Primary School, 725. Greenwood Primary School, contracts, 1327, 1331. 728. Panton Hill Primary School, 829, 2281. Werribee Grange Secondary College, 1074. Clifton E Hill Primary School, 1126, 1132. Ballam Park Primary School, 1126. Parkdale Primary School, Economic Development Committee - Membership, 1126. Banksia Primary School, 1126. Meadow 1005. Report: Victorian building and construction Heights Primary School, 1126. Maffra Primary industry,2290. School, 1128, 1132. Bayswater High School, 1129. Doveton North Primary School, 1129. Watsonia Economy, The - Benefit of Premier's overseas North Primary School, 1129. Barwon Valley High mission, q 11. Investment in Victoria, 31, q 2106. School, q 1254. Lower Plenty Primary School, Decentralisation of industry, 32. Fightback package, 1324,1490. St Martin's Primary School, 1490. q 70, q 73, 120, q 160, q 161, q 163, q 193, q 196. Kennington Primary School, 1623, 1627. Wages accord, q 74. Government policies, 146,203, Tungamah Primary School, 1624, 1630. 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Primary School, 1624, 1627. Taylors Lakes Advisory Bureau, q 631. Interpreting services, 1124, Secondary College, 1626, 1628. Facilities in Mill 1129. Park, 1627. Merger of Banyule and Rosanna East high schools, q 1870. Goongerah Primary School, F 2166. Knox Gardens Primary School, q 2313. TelJchers - Emergency, 118, q 291, q 292, q 377, 399, 404,492,560,565, q 628, 829,1074,1126,1132, Fair Trading - q 1136, q 1140, 2281, q 2313. Industrial action, 340, GenerlJI - Fuel prices, 334, 338. Refurbishment of 343,344, 347. Misuse of position, 345, 348, 1324, office of former Minister for Consumer Affairs, 1330. Visiting teacher service, 560. Staffing, q 755. q 1004. Geelong Financial Counselling and Retrenchments, 1128, 1132. Negotiations, q 1365. Consumer Information Service, 2278, 2283. Safety In remote areas, 1624, 1627. Housing in remote of household and nappy buckets, 2282, 2283. areas, 2166. Office 01- Funding: of tenancy services, 728, 731; of TertilJry EduClJtion IJnd TrlJining - In Wodonga, 33. Consumer Advocacy and Advice Service, 729, 731. In rural Victoria, 39, 226, 334. TAFE: Moorabbin Footscray regional office, 827, 832, 884. College, 148; funding, 849. In Ballarat, 240. University places, 394. University of Melbourne, Fauna (See "Animals") 1144. Fightback Package (See "Economy, The") Egg and Poultry Industry - Dispute at Salvatore Egg Farm,q 752. Finance, Department of - Property leases, 1237. Electoral- Federal election, 203, 209, 212, 231, 247, Financial Counselling and Consumer Information 312,319,386,482. State election, 213, 217, 243, 324. Service, Geelong, 2278, 2283. Nunawading Province re-election, 300. Removal of election sign, 562, 567. Fire Services - Funding, q 412, 472, 476, 500. Charges for attendance of fire units, SOl. Country Fire Electorates - Benambra, 31. Berwick, 113. Gippsland Authority: vehicle manufacturing, 755. Shelter at East, 121. Sandringham, 148. Bentleigh, 154. Bendigo Panton Hill Primary School, 2281. West, 173. Oakleigh, 175. Dromana, 206, 209. Springvale, 210. Bayswater, 214. Keilor, 218, 619, Fishing Industry - Abalone poaching, 40, 42. In East 625. Ballarat West, 221, 223. Frankston East, 228. Gippsland, 121. Gippsland Lakes fishermen, 1323, Essendon, 236. Ballarat East, 239. Mornington, 242. 1328. Recreational use of Waranga-Mallee water Knox, 246. St Albans, 295. Mill Park, 296. channel, 2348, 2356. Mordialloc, 299. Doncaster, 312. Frankston, 324. Ivanhoe, 327. Shepparton, 331. Rodney, 338. Swan Fitzroy Adventure Playground, 153. Hill, 352. Bendigo East, 355. Seymour, 358. Food Development Authority, 623, 626. Wimmera,368. Murray Valley, 372. Clayton, 854. Food Processing Industry - H. J. Heinz Co. Australia Elgas Lld - Purchase of Heatane gas division, q 2071. Ltd, 124, 130.

Eltham Foodshare Network, 1934, 1936. Freedom of Information - Limitation by government, Emergency Services Superannuation Scheme, q 756. 143. Fightback package analysis, q 161. Release of documents, 483, 485. Employment (See ''Industry and Employment'') Fruit and Vegetable Industry - Melbourne Wholesale Energy and Minerals - Fruit and Vegetable Market Trust, q 1106. DeplJrtment - Restructure, q 1003, 1236. Mining approvals, 1220, 1224. G Energy - Toora wind farm project, 472, 476, 561, 566. Gas prices, q 754. Home Energy Advisory Service, Gaming - Melbourne casino, q 1779, q 1780, q 1782, 972,1219,1223, 1239. Concessions, q 1748. q 1785, q 1870, q 2199, q 2201. Briquettes, q 2074. Gas and Fuel Corporation - Gas prices, q 754. Sale of MinerlJIs - Mining in Chiltern Regional Park, 828, Heatane gas division, q 2071. 833. Goldmining in Bendigo, q 1138. Open-cut production in Latrobe Valley, 2291. Geelong and District Water Board - Black Rock treatment plant, q 1966, 2045. Environment (See "Conservation and Environment") Good Morning AmericlJ program, q 1588. Environment Protection Authority - Fallout from Clayton warehouse fire, 854. Proposed office in Government Departments and Instrumentalities - western suburbs, 971, 973. Regulation of burglar Defence force reserve volunteers, 399, 403. Female alarm emissions, 1623, 1630. appointments, q 414. Property leases, 1237. Tendering processes, q 1362, q 2101, q 2103, q 2104, Ethnic Affairs -Services in Keilor, 219. Abolition of 2166,2172, q 2203, 2281, 2287, q 2311, 2346, 23SO, programs, 298, 619, 623. National Police Ethnic 2351. (8) INDEX

Government Employee Housing Authority - Comments of secretary, q 1256, q 1365. Budget, Property management, q 376. Review of properties, q 2102, q 2103, q 2104, q 2107. 1624,1630. Health Computing Services Victoria Ltd - Report for Governmen~ The - Open government, 33. Policies: 1991-92,1633. public transport, 118,304; economic, 146, 203, 211, 229,245,247,248,320,325,336,487, q 592, 2194; Heinz, H. J., CO. Australia Ltd, 124, 130. industrial relations, 211, q 409, 483; health, 212; taxation, 231; education, 325,491; small business, Historic Buildings - Planning controls, q 2107. 327; agriculture, 977; in Geelong, q 1779. Conduct of Parliamentary business, 119. Principles, 145. Home Energy Advisory Service - Funding, 972, 974, Legislative program, 209. Standards, 315. Role, 352, 1219, 1223, 1239, q 1748. 367. Administration, 482. Advertising contracts, Hospitals - Proposed Epping, 41, 43,125, 130,562. q 1362. Media activities, q 1362, q 2203, 2281, 2287, Funding, 178, 184. Dandenong and District,212, q 2311, 2346, 2350, 2351. Preparation of legislation by 2168,2171. Kingston day, 213. St Kilda Day, 251, 255. private firms, 1488, q 1496. Car fleet, q 1868. Medicare agreement, q 293, 361, 849. In northern Privatisation program, q 2071. Agenda 21: suburbs, 297. Essendon campus, Royal Melbourne, announcement, q 2202; projects, q 2202. 342,347,387,1934,1937. Case-mix funding, q 379, Governor, The - Motion for adoption of 558,563,850, q 1142, q 1366,2165,2170. Caulfield Address-in-Reply to speech on opening of General Medical Centre, 394. Waiting lists, q 511, Parliament: debated, 30, 109, 140, 165, 173, 203, 294, 851. Annual reports, 729, 853. Closures, 852, q 866, 351,379,386,849;pnesented,I633. q 1142. Austin, 970. Alfred, 1073, 1078. Mayday Hills Training Centre, q 1257. In Beechworth, 1324, 1329. Grain Industry - Wheat subsidies, 215. Harvests, 369. Psychiatric services at Maroondah, 1326, 1330. Lakeside, q 1364. Box Hill, q 1366, 2280, 2286. Granlln Pty Ltd, 180. Correspondence of member for Coburg, 1832, 1837. Wangaratta District Base, 1833, 1838. Echuca Grantmore Engineering Pty Ltd, q 1746. District, 2165, 2170. Sandringham and District Memorial, 2350, 2355. Grey Sisten - Funding, 153, q 893, q 2107. Housing - Self-build schemes, 726. Home Grievances, 482, 1227. opportunity loans scheme, 1251. Unfulfilled contracts of OS & C Developments Pty Ltd, 1327, H 1331.

Hamilton Water Board, 38, 42.

Handicapped Persons (See "Community Services") Industry and Employment - Health- Department - Advertising contracts, q 1362. Employment - Wages accord, q 74. In Moorabbin, Diseases - Tuberculosis, q 1643. Meningitis, 1771, 155. Victorian Employment Committee, q 164. 1775. Youth Employment Committee, 179, 185. In Drugs - Funding of agencies, 1221, 1224, 1830, 1836. Latrobe Valley, 226. Public Service packages, 263. Genntd - Services: family planning, 123, 129, 158, Programs, 390. Job Bank scheme, q 627, q 632, 390,402,408,733,739; Essendon maternity, 342, q 633, q 1966. Western Region Commission, 1490. 347,1934,1937; provision,360; for women,882; Participation rate, 2175. funding of alcohol dependency, 1221, 1224; Industrial Relations - In workplace: justice, 118; privatisation, q 1499. Cancer screening for women, discrimination, 123, 128. Industry development, 178, 183. Government policies, 212. Medicare 147. Employment contracts: for Chief agreement, q 293, 353, 361, 849, q 1499, 1859. Commissioner of Police, 144; for women, 177, 182; Aboriginal,357. Community health centres, 852. for nurses, 178, 184; for Auditor-General and Maternal and Child Health Service, 972. Ombudsman, q 1136, q 1253; at Lakeside Hospital, Non-government organisations, q 1256. National q 1364; in kindergartens, q 1644; in Department of summit, q 1256, q 1497. United Kingdom Secretary Business and Employment, q 1745. Reforms, q 199, of State for Health, q 1257. Auditor-General's 337,366. Government policies, 211, q 409, 483. report on visiting medical officer arrangements, Federal award coverage, q 289, q 293, q 378, q 410, 1336, q 1364. HIB vaccine, 1771, 1775. Status 483, q 1102, q 1105, q 1963. SPC Ltd, 332. report, q 1783. Chiropractors and Osteopaths Campbell's Soups Australia, 333. Negotiations, Registration Board, 1932, 1936. Welfare funding, q 374. Commonwealth-State arrangements, q 375. q 2102, q 2103, q 2104, q 2107. Dispute at Salvatore Egg Farm, q 752. Unfair Nursing-Contracts, 178, 184. Professional dismissals, 828, 833. Australian Industrial standards, 881. Relations Commission, q 1641, q 2072. Transport Workers Union log of claims, 1830, 1835. (See also Health and Community Services, Department of - "Unions'') Closure of Corio Village office, 181, 186. Annual Unemployment - Rate, 120, q 162,329. Youth, 155, reports, 729, 853. Restructure, 850, q 893, q 896. 230,559. In Bendigo, 173,355. In Bayswater, 216. In Essendon, 238. In Ballarat, 239. In Knox, 247. In LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (9)

rural areas, 359. Of university graduates, 402. crime, proposed changes to the Wills Act, and Statistics, q 861. directors and managers of insolvent corporations, 1227. Industry Services - Coode Island chemical storage, 346, 349. Chemical fire at Mayne Nickless Leeds Media and Communication Services, 2203, warehouse, 854. Occupational health and safety 2281,2287, q 2311, 2346, 2350, 2351. program for farmers, 1217, 1221. Occupational Legal Aid - Funding, q 200. Health and Safety Act, q 1645. Asbestos safety regulations, q 1786. Legal Profession - Reforms, 116.

Institute for Sustainable Agriculture - Kyabram Legislative Council (See ''Parliament'') campus, 1931, 1936. Liberal Party - Philosophy, 114, 142, 154,203,209, Institute of Plant Sciences - Review, q 755. 232,312,387. Election promises, 117, 149.

Institute of Public Affairs - Schooling Victorians Library Services (See "Local Government'') booklet, q 1967, 2038, 2042. Local Government - International Rotary Convention, q 2105. Ballaraf - Library services, q 160, 166. International Women's Day, 177, 182. Diamond Valley - Disused Eltham aqueduct, 1557, 1560. Italy - Political system, q 1000, 1072. Essendon - Debt, 237. Ivanhoe-Diamond Valley Centre - Activities, 1770, Fratlksfon - Rates, 325. Quayside development, 326. 1776. Geelong - Community consultation on City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1239. J General - Charges, 330. Superannuation, 620, 624. Pensioner concessions, 827, 831. Amalgamations, Japan - Beef markets, q 865. 883, 885. Planning appeal rights, 884. State deficit levy, q 889. School crossing supervisors, 725,1323, Joint Printing Committee - Establishment, 1829. 1328, 1490. HIB vaccination program, 1771, 1775. Kindergarten funding, 1930, 1935. Joint Sittings of Parliament (See "Parliament") Heidelberg - Funding for school crossing supervisor, 725. K Keilor - Service road, 2094, 2097, 2098. Library Services - Ballarat, q 160, 166. Kryza Cabinets, 1327. Moorabbin - Employment opportunities, 155. Sale - Water responsibilities, 559, 565, 1239. Kyabram Animal and Irrigated Pastures Research Sherbrooke - Youth affairs programs, 2094, 2098. Institute - Funding, 1931, 1936. YaTTaville -Shopping centre, 2097. Kyabram Farming Services, 178, 184. YtlTTtlWotlga - Housing blocks, 125, 127.

L Local Government (Reporting and Accounting) Regulations 1992 - Report of Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee, 1787, 1940. Lands (See "Conservation and Environment")

Latrobe Region Water Authority, 1239. M

Law Courts -Criminal justice system, 36,109. Maccabiah Games, 728, 730. Reports: County Court judges, 1991-92,418; Supreme Court judges, 1991-92,418; Council of Manufacturing Industry - Transport costs, 148. Magistrates, 2291. Magistrates Court: Melbourne Survey of Australian Chamber of Manufactures, complex, q 893, q 2313; determination on q 1001, q 1964. Industry assistance, q 2106. employment contracts, q 1364. Supreme Court waiting lists, 1591. Comments of judiciary on Mayne Nickless Transport Management - women and sexual violence, 1709, 1713. Judicial Warehouse fire, 854. in-service programs on sex offences, 1714. Children's Court, q 1785. (See also Meat Industry - Abattoirs, 369. Vaccination against "Attorney-General" and ''Police'') liver fluke, 401, 403. Grass-fed beef exports, q 865.

Law Reform Commission - Incomplete references, Media - Government activities, 2203, 2281, 2287, 30. Abolition, 120, 157. Excesses, q 293. Vic Statutes q 2311, 2346, 2350. project, q 294, q 374, q 375, 400, 403, q 630. Medical Panels (See ''WorkCover'') Law Reform Committee - Law Reform Commission references, 30. Report on restitution for victims of Medicare (See "Health'') (10) INDEX

Melbourne Casino (See "Gaming") N Melbourne Home Insulation, Keysborough, 972, 974. National Australia Bank - Quarterly Business Suroey, Melbourne Hovercraft Club, 726, 729. q 1137.

Melbourne Water - Relocation of employee, 253, 257. National Road Transport Commission - First annual Debt, q 410. Clearing of tree branches in Knox,970, report, 202. 973. River works near Powelltown, 1773, 1776. Waste water spillage at Black Rock, q 1966,2040, National Tennis Centre Trust - Auditor-General's 2045. Use of Brimbank Park by community report, 569. organisations, 2039, 2045. Operation Sewer Safe, Nissan Australia - Closure of Clayton plant, 215. 2045,2288. Sewer collapse in Elsternwick, 2281, 2288. (See also "Water'') North Riding Community Action Group, 1934, 1936. Melbourne Wholesale Fruit and Vegetable Market Noxious Weeds - Serrated tussock, 401, 403. Trust - Administration, q 1106.

Members- o General- Length of speeches, 319, 498. Appreciation of services of former: Hon. Race Obstetric and Paediatric Mortality and Morbidity, Mathews, 175; Mr M. J. McDonald, 360. Naming Con8ultative Council on - Report for 1990, 1501. and suspension: of Hon. B. E. Davidson, MLC, 738; Mr Micallef, 1104, 1106, 1120. Conduct, 1110. Occupational Health and Safety Act - Provisions, Mr Roper: correspondence on hospital services, q 1645. 1832, 1837; service, 2214. Tourism promotion Ombudsman - Employment contracts, q 1136, q 1253. through electorate offices, 1933. Use of lap top computers in Chamber, 2118. Reports: investigation of complaint of unjust dismissal, 1787; for 1991-92,2175. Personal Explanations - Mr Stockdale, 809. Mr Sandon, 1143. Mr Jenkins, 1759. Mr Gude, Ombudsman, Deputy (Police Complaints) - Report 1786. Mr Reynolds, 2087. Mr Rowe,2137. on alleged suppression of police investigations, police intelligence and related matters, 1336. Mental Health (See "Community Services" and "Hospitals") Optus Communications - Tower construction, 1772. Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board (See "Fire Services") Overseas Projects Corporation of Victoria - Report for 1991-92, 733. Mining Industry - Mining in Chiltern Regional Park, 828,833. Goldmining in Bendigo, q 1138. Quarry in p Keilor, 1219, 1223. Application of Mineral Resources Development Act, 1220, 1224. Parks - Chiltern Regional, 828, 833. Pine trees in Ministerial Statements - By Mr John, 47, 75. Dandenong Valley, 970, 973. Kalorama, 1555, 1560. Brimbank, 2039, 2045. Ministry, The - Shadow, 409. Premier: wine sales, 495, q 590, q 592, q 594, 620; comments on Italian Parliament - political system, q 1000, 1072, 1075. Minister for Business of the House - Programming of Grievance Health: remarks, 562, 563; office accommodation, days, 133,202. Hours of sitting, 371, 1377. q 893, q 8%. Minister for Fair Trading: performance, Postponement, 394, 613, 682, 1620,2093,2344. q 630. Minister for Energy and Minerals: office Withdrawal of notices of motion, 835. accommodation, q 1003, 1236. Former Minister for Programming, 1501. Parliamentary reform, 1502. Consumer Affairs: refurbishment of office, q 1004. Strategic Management Review of the Parliament of Former Minister for Police and Emergency Services: Victoria, 1502. remarks, 1071, 1077, 1143, 1234, 1486, 1709, 1713. Committees - System, 854. Motion for Joint Select Minister for Industry and Employment: Committee on Parliamentary, 2118. correspondence with Australian Industrial Relations Commission, q 1641. Auditor-General's report on General-Tabling of reports, 106. Distinguished Ministerial portfolios, 1841. visitors, 160,289, 1135, 1253, 1361, 1587, 1865, 2289,2310. Role, q 753. Speaker: election, 853; Moira Inc., 148. dissent from ruling, 2118. Administration, 853. Photographing of proceedings, 1101. Employment Municipal Association of Victoria - State deficit levy contracts for Auditor-General and Ombudsman, proposal, q 889. q 1136, q 1253. Adjournment debate, 1227. Abolition of State, 1489. Availability of reports, Municipalities (See ''Local Government'') 1941,1953,2047,2053,2109,2110. Parliamentary dining room, 2347. Joint Sittings -Senate vacancy, 1047, 1152, 1305, 1332. Victorian Institute of Marine Sciences, Swinburne University of Technology, Victoria LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (11 )

University of Technology, Deakin University, Petroleum Products - Fuel prices, 334, 338. Petrol La Trobe University and Victorian Health levy, q 1493, q 1494. Promotion Foundation, 1047, 1152, 1305, 1332. Legislative Council-Comments by members in Planning - Proposed chemical warehouse in Assembly Chamber during address by Minister Hampton Park, 38, 42, 181, 187. Gisbome planning for Finance: Hon. M. A. Birrell, 737, Hon. D. R. scheme amendment, 122, 127, 622, 625,1829,1834. White, 737. Zoning: of Yarrawonga land, 125, 127; of school properties, 971, 973; rural in Monbulk, 1625. Questions without Notice - Standing Orders, 289, Metropolitan area improvement plan, 252, 257. 370, 379. Interruption of proceedings, 1106. Appeal rights, 884. Residential developments: Answers, 1114. Guidelines, 1750. inner-city, q 895; Southbank area, q 2075. Willsmere Urgent Public Questions - Family planning Hospital site, q 1139. Mining applications, 1220, services, 733. Employment: participation rate, 2175. 1224. Dual occupancy: in Eltham, 1325, 1331; in Sandringham, 1558, 1562. Werribee corridor, 1325, Pensioners (See "Senior Citizens'1 1331. Appointment of selection panels, 1326, 1331. Western Port, q 1749,2075. Historic buildings, Personal Explanations (See ''Members'1 q 2107. Rezoning of Laverton properties, 2280, 2286. Geelong regional growth, q 2311. (See also Petitions - Sexual abuse of children, 18. Odours from ''Housing'' and ''Local Government'1 landfill sites, South Clayton, 18. Human life experimentation, 18,836,897. Disabled children, Plant Research Institute - Review, 1073, 1077. Seed funding and staffing, 19. Emergency phones­ testing and certification, 1770, 1774. Frankston-Rosebud freeway, 19. Gardiner Park, Glen Iris, 19. School closures, 19. Passenger rail Point Gellibrand - Risk study, 1073, 1077. service - Cobram and Seymour, 20. Penalties for serious sexual offences, 20. State deficit levy, 20, 133, Police- 201,262,569,733,835,897,976,2047,2289. Kilmany Crime - Violence, 230. Public safety, 1626, 1631. Family Care, 106. Melbourne-Warmambool Drug raids, 1773, 1776. passenger train service, 133,201,481. Industrial and associated legislation, 200, 261, 1335. Coode Island General- Minister's visit to country Victoria, q 16. chemical storage facility, 201, 733,1633. Education Morale, 37, 109. Employment contract for chief budget, 201. Prostitution Regulation Act 1986,261. commissioner, 144. Services in Ballarat, 240. School crossing supervisors - City of W averley, Facilities, 334. Employment contracts, 341, 346. 261. Newport-WiIliamstown train service, 261. Presence in Knox, 400, 405, 2354. National Police Alfred, Royal Southern Memorial and Caulfield Ethnic Advisory Bureau, q 631. Report of Deputy hospitals, 351. Caulfield General Medical Centre, Ombudsman (Police Complaints), 1336. Traffic 417. Cuts to education, 417. Community health infringement payments, 2166. Escort for cycle race, funding in West Gippsland, 481. Mobile area 2351,2354. resource centre, 481. Pedestrian crossing in Grange Staff-Participation in political affairs, 1709, 1713. Road, Glenhuntly, 481. Emergency teachers, 481, Alleged brutality, 2279, 2288. 733,835, 1079,2289. Amendment of State Deficit Stations -Sunshine, 182. Carrum, 1071, 1077, 1143, Levy Act, 482. Increase of minimum sentences, 569. 1234, 1486. Mordialloc, 1221, 1222, 1234, 1709, Reintroduction of capital punishment, 569. Institute 1713. Moorabbin, 1486. Sandringham, 1487. of Educational Administration, 634, 835, 897, 975, Wangaratta, 2096, 2099. Numurkah, 2164. Knox, 1079,1143,1501,1563,1633,2047. School bus 2349,2354. service - Heywood and surrounds, 733. Municipal amalgamations, 836. University campus at Caloola Porter, The Late Hon. Sir Murray, 1. Training Centre, 836. Former Department of Planning and Housing, Bendigo, 836. Maffra Ports - Port of Melbourne Authority regulations, 482. Primary School, 897. Tertiary student transport Port of Geelong Authority audit, 1125, 1129. concessions, 975. R. E. Ross Industrial Centre, 975. Watsonia North Primary School, 975. Public rent Poverty Action Program, 220. increase, 975. Vinelander passenger rail service, 976. Fencing for pools and spas, 976. Pollutants in creeks, Preschools (See "Community Services'1 1143. Needs of disabled children, 1335. Macedon region future water resources, 1335. Funding for Primary Industries (See "Agriculture") family planning services, 1335, 1841, 1939. Track closure in Yarra Valley-Gembrook areas, 1563. Mobil Printing Committee, Joint - Establishment, 1829. refinery in Williamstown and Altona, 1563. Review of psychiatric hospitals and community services, Prostitution Regulation Act, q 289, 343, 347. 1719. Dimboola-Melbourne rail service, 1786. Public Advocate - Portfolio responsibility, 39,43. Ballarat University College, 1841. Evidence from ethnic persons, 1939. Protection for transport Public Service - Employee relations, 140. accident victims, 1939,2289. Kerang dental clinic, Employment packages, 263. Superannuation, q 409, 2047. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 2109. Funding q 411, 484, 486, 488, q 507, q 510, q 595,658,735,756, for Myrtleford Primary School, 2109. Essendon and q 890, q 1103, q 1136, 1245, 1486, 1487, 1488, q 1496, District Memorial Hospital, 2175. Doveton cluster q 1497, q 1587, q 1588, q 1642, q 1643, q 1783. Senior welfare service, 2290. Western bypass, 2290. career positions for women, q 414, 1323, 1327. Voluntary departure packages, q 889, q 890, q 1004. (12) INDEX

Industrial action, q 1104, q 1105, q 1587. Private Road Safety - Black spot intersection, 1072, 1077. insurance cover scheme, Im, 1777. Alleged Motorcycles, q 1749,2205. disclosure of information by Ministerial assistant, 1931. Auditor-General's report on information Road Safety Committee - Reports: motorcycle safety, technology, 2175. 2205. Public Transport- Roads Corporation - Bus Services - Tullamarine, 1710, 1714. Independent General-Compliance with occupational health and airport operations, 1832, 1839. Pensioner safety regulations, 1326, 1329. Heavy vehicle concessions, 1832, 1839. Relocation of curfews, 1831. Mooroolbark stop, 2039, 2044. Proposed Roads and Highways - In East Gippsland, 122. In interchange in Footscray, 2044. Essendon, 237. South Eastern Arterial sound Corportdion - Voluntary departure packages, 126, barriers, 971, 974. Noise pollution in Laverton, 130, q 1964, q 2073, 2348, 2352. Enterprise 1075. Domain tunnel and Western bypass projects, bargaining, 305. Staffing, 308, q 1964, 2348, 2352. q 1493, q 1494, q 1782, q 2071. Roadworks in Budget deficit, 310. WorkCare claims, 322. Werribee, 1834, 1839. Western Ring-road, q 1869. Property management, q 376. Ticket boxes Melrose Drive, Tullamarine, 2094, 2097, 2098. (See contract, q 1746. Payment of accounts, q 1746. Staff also "Local Government") uniforms, q 1780. Auditor-General's report, Signals and Crossings - Pedestrian crossing for q 1866. Lists of former employees, q 2073. Grange Road, Glenhuntly, 622, 625. School Purchase and sale of tow trucks, q 2314. Transit crossing supervisors, 725, 1323, 1329, 1490. Community Relations Unit, 2349, 2353. General - Government policies, 118, 304. Services: in Rural Water Corporation - Sunraysia Regional Craigieburn, 181, 187; in Mill Park, 298; rural, 311, Management Board, 1833, 1838. Recreational fishing 317; in Keilor, 1558; in Bairnsdale region, 1622, at Waranga-Mallee water channel, 2348, 2356. (See 1628. Reforms, q 194,320, q 415, q 1255, 1715. also ''Water'') MetTicket, 308, q 593, q 1780, q 1866, q 1867. Senior Citizens Week, 829. St Albans rail easement, 830, 834. Noise pollution, 1075. s Vandalism, 1558. Ticket inspections, 2040, 2045. Tottenham railway yards, 2168, 2169. ALP Safety ROPS (Aust.) Pty Ltd, 126, 129, 180. policies, 2279, 2284, 2347, 2354. Victorian Commission of Audit report, 2347, 2354. Train St Kilda Tenants Union - Funding, 2167, 2172. safety education, 2349, 2353. Scali, McCabe, Sloves Pty Ltd, 490. Rail Services - Closures, 118,305,306. Werribee, 124,13O,474,478,1557,1710,1715.Country,306, Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Alert 323,373,379. Underground loop, 306. Vineiander, Digest: No. 1,21; No. 2,202; No. 3,418; No. 4, 635; 881, q 1254, q 1590. Metropolitan, q 894, q 1002. No. 5, 898; No. 6, 1144; No. 7, 1787; No. 8, 1940,2110; Rosanna, 969, 974. Stations: Rosanna, 969, 974; availability, 1941, 1953, 2047, 2053, 2109, 2110; No. 9, Lalor; 1558, 1561; unmanned, Im, 1777; Jacana, 2205. Statutory Rules Series 1991, 106. Reports: first Im, 1777; Sunbury, 2167, 2169. Sprinter trains, cumulative, 418; Port of Melbourne Authority 1217,1221. In Altona, 1712, 1716. Crossings: regulations, 482; on commencement by Werribee, 2040, 2044; Yarraville, 2097; fatalities, proclamation, 898; Local Government (Reporting 2165,2169. Extension to South Morang, 2164, 2169. and Accounting) Regulations 1992, 1787, 1940. Leongatha, 2282, 2284. V I Line freight costs, Activities, q 2310. q 2314. Upfield, 2351, 2352. Tram Services -City circle tram loop, q 1745. SEAS Sapfor Ltd, 252, 257.

Pyramid Group, 314. Senate - Vacancy, 1047, 1152, 1305, 1332. Senior Citizens - Concessions, 827, 831, q 1748, Q q 1784, 1832, 1839. Senior Citizens Week, 829. Electricity reconnection services, 2041, 2046. Questions without Notice (See ''Parliament'') Sentencing Act - Amendment, q 17.

R Shipping -Supertankers, q 1749.

Racing (See "Sport, Recreation and Racing'') Small Business - Development Corporation - Abolition, 34, 41, 44, Racism - Racial Vilification Bill, q 1102. AFL incident, 473,477,502,1771,1776,1786. Annual report, 106. 1218,1222. General-Government policies, 34, 41, 44, 327. In Reid, The Late Hon. Sir George, QC, 3. Ballarat, 223. Encouragement, 229. Liquidation legislation, 342, 346. State deficit levy anomalies, Republic Advisory Committee - Review of 344,348. Australian Institute of Family Studies Australian Constitution, q 891. Membership, q 1362, report, 884. q 1495, 1563. Public debate, q 2101. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (13)

Smith, The Late Hon. J. H., 887. Technical and Further Education (See "Education") South Gippsland Water Board - Waste discharge, Tecoma Area Traffic Calming Residents Group, 1072, 1074,1078. 1077.

Sport, Recreation and Racing - Telecommunications -Optus tower, 1772.

Gene,," - Melbourne Hovercraft Club, 726, 729. Tenancies - Tenancy advice services, 2097, 2167, 2172. Maccabiah Games, 728, 730. School sports, 727, 731, 1127, 1132, 1241. Transfer of funds for Tendering (See "Government Departments and disabled, 1074, 1078. Racist remarks at AFL match, Instrumentalities") 1218,1222. Achievements of Victorians, 1241. Aquatic centre at Victoria University of Textile Industry - Work practices, 372. Technology, 2038, 2043, 2087. Use of Brimbank Park by community organisations, 2039, 2045. Timber Industry - In East Gippsland, 121. Melbourne to BaHarat cycle race, 2351, 2354. Sawmilling in Daylesford, 241. Softwood in Racing - Impact of Melbourne casino on revenue, south-western Victoria, 252, 257. Victorian q 1782, q 1870, q 2201. Equine research, Plantations Corporation, 726, 729. Proposed pulp development and veterinary services, 1833, 1838. and paper mill, 1556, 1561. Logging practices, 2094, 2098. Auditor-General's report on strategy, 2114. STAR Victorian Action on Intellectually Disabled, Tips - In South Clayton, 856. 152.

State Bank Victoria - Compensation, q 378. Employee Totalizator Agency Board - Deloitte Ross Tohmatsu medical benefits scheme, 826, 830. report, q 14. (See also "Gaming" and "Sport, Recreation and Racing'') State Deficit Levy (See ''Taxation'') Tottenham Language Centre,475, 476. State Electricity Commission - Charges, 40, 43, 1770, 1774. Restructure, 226. Staffing at Fishermen's Bend Tourism - In BaHarat, 222, 240. Publications: A New complex, q 1003. Corporatisation, 1079, 1334, 1336, Future for Victorian Tourism, q 1135; JolJs in Tourism, 1348. Electricity supplies to urban subdivisions, q 1590. Signage in Dandenong Ranges, 1219, 1222. 1770,1774. Electricity reconnection services, 2041, Swan Hill Pioneer Settlement, 1559, 1561. Good 2046. Privatisation of Loy Yang B, q 2071. Morwell Morning America program, q 1588. Promotion briquette factory, q 2074. Voluntary departure through electorate offices, 1933. Regional tourist packages,2095,2099. precincts, 2039, 2045. State Employees Retirement Benefits Board, 1487. Transport (See "Public Transport" and "Roads")

State Finance (See "Budget'') Turalla Respite Care Service, 180, 186. Sunraysia Youth Accommodation Service, 474, 479. u Superannuation - State schemes, q 409, q 507, q 510, Unemployment (See '1ndustry and Employment") q 595, q 890, q 1103, q 1136, 1245, 1486, 1487, 1488, q 1496, q 1497, q 1587, q 1588, q 1642, q 1643, q 1783. Unions - Unfunded liability, q 411, 484,486,488, q 595, q 1587, q 1588, q 1643. Local government, 620, 624. Australian Services Union - Superannuation Address by Minister for Finance, 658, 735, 756. dispute, 620, 624. Emergency services scheme, q 756. Donoughmore General- Membership, 123, 128,332. Enterprise (UK) report, 1246. bargaining, 124, 130, 305. Public transport reform package, q 415, q 1255, 1715. Public Service Swan Hill Pioneer Settlement - Management, 1559, industrial action, q 1104, q 1105, q 1587. Program 1561. of stoppages, q 1493, q 1496. Health and Community Services Staff T Association - Work practices negotiations, q 629. State Public Services Federation Victoria - Taxation - Industrial action by prison officers, q 629. General- Goods and services tax, 37, 42, 117. Teacher - Australian Teachers Union: policies, 37, Increased charges, 117. Avoidance, 180. 42; negotiations, q 1365. Victorian Secondary Government charges, 330. Teachers Association: industrial action, 343, 344, 347; negotiations, q 1365. Victorian Affiliated Payroll Tax - Fightback agreement, q 70, q 73. Teachers Federation: negotiations, q 1365. Petrol Levy - Use, q 1493, q 1494. Victorian Principals Federation: negotiations, State Deficit Levy - Relief, 250, 255. Anomalies, 344, q 1365; support of government reforms, q 1499. 348, 401,403. Application: to Golden Beach estate, Federated Teachers Union of Victoria: 475,479; to Yallambie elderly persons village, negotiations, q 1365. 1556, 1561. Municipal Association of Victoria Transport Workers Union - Log of claims, 1830, proposal, q 889. 1835. (14) INDEX

United Firefighters Union - Activities, q 412, 472, VlLlne (See ''Public Transport'') 477,500. w United Nations International Year of Indigenous Peoples, 356. Water - Hamilton Water Board, 38, 42. Impact of Universities (See ''Education'') goods and services tax, 38, 42. Proposed widening of Ruffey Creek, Templestowe, 251, 257. Latrobe Region Water Authority, 559, 565. Responsibilities of v City of Sale, 559, 565, 1239. Waste discharges to coastal, 1074, 1078. Saline water spill into Barwon Vehicle Industry - Closure of Nissan Australia River, 1557, 1560. Lough Calvert drainage scheme, Clayton plant, 215. Export of fire services 1557, 1560. Disused Eltham aqueduct, 1557, 1560. equipment, q 755. Pensioner concessions, q 1784. Rural services committees, 1833, 1838. Black Rock treatment plant, VIC ROADS (See "Roads") q 1966. (See also ''Melbourne Water" and "Rural Water Corporation'') Vic Statutes Project, q 294, q 374, q 375, 400, 403, q 630. Western Region Commission - Funding, 1490. Victoria Police (See ''Police'') Western Region Tenancy Support Service­ Victorian Abattoir and Meat Inspection Authority - Funding, 2097. Report for 1992,106. Wine Industry -In north-eastern Victoria, 372. Victorian Accident Rehabilitation Council (See 'WorkCover'') Women'. Affairs - Services: family planning, 123, 129, 158, 390, 402, 408, 733, 739; Essendon maternity, Victorian Chamber of Mines, 1220, 1224. 342,347,1934,1937; health,882. Government policies, 156. Employment contracts, 177, 182. Victorian Commission of Audit -Chainnan, q 861, Cancer screening, 178, 183. Senior career positions in q 862, q 864, q 1138, 1227, 1230, 1232. Tenns of Public Service, q 414,1323,1327. Sexual violence, reference, q 1589. Report, q 1641, 1645, q 1747, 1709,1713. Offensive advertising, 2280, 2283. q 1748, 1841, q 1967,2038,2042,2347,2354. Unfunded superannuation liability, q 1643. Wool Industry - Assistance for growers, 621, 625. Comments of Ms Mary Crooks, q 1967, 2038,2042. Collapse in floor price, 1247. Federal assistance, q 1253, q 1589. Victorian Council of Social Service, 152. WorkCare Appeals Board (See 'WorkCover'') Victorian Development Fund, 506, q 508. WorkCover- Victorian Employment Committee, q 164. Authority - Report No. 21,482,2044. WorkCare Victorian Family and Children's Services Council, reports: Accident Compensation Commission, 152. Medical Panels, Victorian Accident Rehabilitation Council, WorkCare Appeals Board,21. Victorian Farmers Federation -Occupational health Genertd - Rehabilitation, 319. WorkCare claims in and safety program, 1217, 1221. Public Transport Corporation, 322. Cessation of benefits, 1217, q 1498. Victorian Fishing Industry Federation - Levy, 1323, 1328. y Victorian Government Major Projects Unit - Report for 1991-92, 106. Youth Accommodation Coalition of Victoria, 1713, 1717. Victorian Health Promotion Foundation - Funding, 504. Youth Affairs - Homelessness, 150,474,479,502,559, 564, q 1500, 1713, 1717. Unemployment, 155, 230, Victorian Plantations Corporation - Location, 726, 502,559,564. Western suburbs refuge, q 1140. Street 729. Kids project, q 1500, 1713, 1717. Juvenile offenders, 1711,1716. Outreach program, 1716, 2095, 2098. (See Victorian Secondary School Sports Association, 727, also "Community Services'') 731, 1127, 1241. Youth Employment Committee, 179, 185. Victorian WorkCover Authority (See 'WorkCover'')

Violence - Public safety, 1626, 1631. Against women, z 1709,1713. Police raids, 1773, 1776. Alleged police brutality, 2279, 2288. Zoological Board of Victoria - Auditor-General's report, 569. Vistel Ltd - Report for 1991-92, 417. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (15) MEMBERS

(/Iq" refers to question without notice) Andrlanopoulos, Mr (Mill Park) Business Franchise (Petroleum Products) (Amendment) Bill, 1592, 1910, 1914. Address-in-Reply,295. Debits Tax (Amendment) Bill, 1023. Education - Facilities in Mill Park, 1625. Economy, The - Fightback package, q 163. Electorates - Mill Park, 296. Government policies, 203, 487. Debt management, Ethnic Affairs - Abolition of programs, 298, 619. q 511,1841. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1634, 1645. Education - Budget, q 290. Hospitals - Services in northern suburbs, 297. Electoral - Federal election, 203. Italy - Political system, 1072. Employment - Participation rate, 2182. Ministry, The - Premier's comments on Italian Financial Institutions Duty (Amendment) Bill, 1048. political system, 1072. Government, The - Economic policies, 203, 487. Petitions - State deficit levy, 133. Preparation of legislation by private firms, q 1496. Points of Order - Tabling of documents, 1653. Grievances, 487, 1232. Public Transport - In Mill Park, 298. Lalor railway Land Tax (Amendment) Bill, 1092. station, 1558. Vandalism, 1558. Ticket inspections, Liberal Party - Philosophy, 203. 2040. Local Government - Superannuation, 620. Public Transport Corporation - Voluntary departure Meat Industry Bill, 1274. packages, 126. Melbourne Casino, q 1780. Parliament - Questions without notice: answers 1119. Ashley, Mr (Bayswater) Pay-roll Tax (Amendment) Bill, 1120. Points of Order - Questions without notice: answers Address-in-Reply,213. 164,194. Offensive remarks, 511, 1970. Scope of Agriculture -Subsidies, 215. debate, 1042. Unparliamentary expression, 1593. Children - Representation at Children's Court, q 1785. Public Service - Superannuation, 488, q 890, q 1103, q 1136, 1486, q 1496, q 1643, q 1783. Disability Services - In Bayswater, 214. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Education - Schools of the Future, q 1254. Bill, 603. Electoral - State election, 213. Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1595, 1597, 1600. Electorates - Bayswater, 214. State Deficit Levy - Anomalies, 401. Grain Industry - Wheat subsidies, 215. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 1308, 1311. Hospitals - Case-mix funding, q 379. Subdivision (Amendment) Bill, 1507. Law Courts - Representation at Children's Court, Superannuation - Unfunded liability, 488, q 1643. q 1785. Local government, 620. State schemes, q 890, q 1103, Nissan Australia - Closure of Clayton plant, 215. q 1136, 1486, q 1496, q 1643, q 1783. Public Service - Voluntary departure packages, q 890. Superannuation (Compliance) Bill, 2051, 2291, 2301. Unemployment - In Bayswater, 216. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 899. Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, q 1747. Treasury Corporation of Victoria (Debt Centralisation) Bill, 1144. Victorian Commission of Audit -Chairman, q 862, 1232. Terms of reference, q 1589. Unfunded Baker, Mr (Sunshine) superannuation liability, q 1643. Report, 1841. Address-in-Reply, 203. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 899. Audit (Tender Board) Bill, 1764. Batchelor, Mr (Thomastown) Australian Services Union, 620. Address-in-Reply,304. Barley Marketing Bill, 700. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1057. Budget - Treasury bills program, q 412, q 413, q 416. Education - Merriang Special Developmental School, Cuts, 489. Borrowings, q 511. Victorian Commission 621. of Audit report, 1841. (16) INDEX

Grantmore Engineering Pty Ltd, q 1746. Brown, Mr (Gippsland West) (Minister for Public Marine (Amendment) Bill, 1807. Transport) Petitions -State deficit levy, 569. Address-in-Reply,308. Points of Order - Tabling of petitions, 20. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, Adjournment debate: responses to matters raised, q 1746, q 1780, q 1866,2044,2169, q 2314. Public 885. Questions without notice: answers 1746. transport policies, 2284, 2354. Public Transport - Budget - Deficit, 310. Corporation - Enterprise bargaining, 305. Ticket Government Employee Housing Authority - Property boxes contract, q 1746. Payment of accounts, management, q 376. q 1746. Grantmore Engineering Pty Ltd, q 1746. General - Government policies, 304. MetTicket, q 1866, q 1867. Local Government - Funding for school crossing supervisors, 1329. Rail Services -Closures, 305, 306. Country, 306. Underground loop, 306. Vinelander, 881, q 1254. Marine (Amendment) Bill, 1091, 1811. Metropolitan, q 894, q 1002. Werribee, 1710. Points of Order - Offensive remarks, 1965. Quoted documents, 2353. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 1321. Port of Geelong Authority - Audit, 1129. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1057. Public Transport - Unions - Enterprise bargaining, 305. Bus Seroices -Tullamarine, 1714. Proposed interchange in Footscray, 2044. Relocation of Mooroolbark stop, 2044. Bildstien, Mr (Mildura) Corporation - Staffing, 308, q 1965, 2352. Budget deficit, 310. Property management, q 376. Ticket Address-in-Reply,319. boxes contract, q 1746. Payment of accounts, q 1746. Staff uniforms, q 1780. Auditor-General's Agriculture - Rural assistance, 252. Locust plague, report, q 1866. Voluntary departure packages, q 292. Chemicals, 561. Government policies,977. q 1965, q 2073, 2352. Lists of former employees, Veterinary services to racing industry, 1833. q 2073. Purchase and sale of tow trucks, q 2314. Animals - Outbreak of disease at Kilmore Transit Community Relations Unit, 2353. thoroughbred stable, 1833. General- In Craigieburn, 187. Reforms, q 195, q 415, Australian Labor Party - Federal election campaign, q 1255, 1715. MetTicket, 308, q 593, q 1780, q 1868. 319. Rural services, 311. Services in Bairnsdale region, 1628. Ticket inspections, 2045. Tottenham railway Barley Marketing Bill, 688, 711. yards, 2169. Australian Labor Party policies, 2284, Chemicals - Agricultural, 561. 2354. Train safety education, 2353. Victorian Commission of Audit report, 2354. Economy, The - Government poliCies, 320. Rail Seroices - Werribee, 478, 1715. Metropolitan, Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill, 1816. q 894, q 1002. Sprinter trains, 1221. Vinelander, Electoral-Federal election, 319. q 1254. In Altona, 1716. Crossings: Werribee, 2044; fatalities, 2169. Extension to South Morang, 2169. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1638. Sunbury railway station, 2169. Leongatha, 2284. Government, The - Policies: economic, 320; V I Line freight costs, q 2314. Upfield, 2352. agriculture, 977. Tram Seroices - City circle tram loop, q 1745. Meat Industry Bill, 1263. Roads Corporation - Parliament - Business of the House: postponement, 616. General - Compliance with health and safety regulations at roadworks, 1329. Petitions - Disabled children - funding and staffing, 19. Human life experimentation, 897. Vinelander Roads and Highways - South Eastern Arterial sound passenger rail service, 976. barriers, 974. Signals and Crossings - Pedestrian crossing for Points of Order - Scope of debate, 615. Relevancy of Grange Road, Glenhuntly, 625. School crossing remarks,I639. supervisors, 1329. Public Transport - Reforms, 320. Country rail services, 323. Unions - Public transport reform package, q 1255, Public Transport Corporation - W orkCare claims, 322. 1715. Wool Industry - Assistance for growers, 621. Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, 2354. WorkCover - WorkCare claims in Public Transport Corporation, 322. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (17)

Chairman of Committees, The (Mr J. F. McGrath) Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 2258, 2265, 2267. Debate - Reference to debate from same session, Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 1585. 602. Scope, 606, 715, 716, 718. Quoted documents, Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1469. 723. Use of correct titles, 1520, 1541. Interjections, 1528, 1531, 1532, 2077. Unparliamentary Grievances, 1245. expressions, 1530. Members: to address Chair, Housing - Self-build scheme, 726. 1532; conduct, 1544. Remarks: offenSive, 1970, 1992; relevance, 1991,2077. Le~al Profession Practice (Guarantee Fund) Bill, 2322. Rulings and Statements as Deputy Speaker - Local Government (General Amendment) Bill, 2030, Debate - Remarks: relevance, 33,1916; offensive, 2090,2092. 1230, 1231, 1234, 1692, 1695, 1696, 1740. Meat Industry Bill, 1264, 1279. Interjections, 89, 1741, 1744, 1872, 1906, 1914. Use of correct titles, 307, 308, 390. Quoted documents, Members - Naming and suspension of member for 615. Scope, 660, 1309, 1569, 1694, 1739, 1740, 1742, Springvale, 1108. Use of laptop computers in 1743,1922,2292,2296. Audibility, 1509. Chamber, 2118. Admissibility of amendment motion, 1620. Murray-Darling Basin Bill, 1297. Relevancy of pOints of order, 1740, 1907. Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Bill (No. 2),429. Unparliamentary expressions, 1741. Members to address Chair, 1872. References to Public Gallery, Parliament - Business of the House: programming of 1949. Grievance days, 202; postponement, 396, 1621. Questions without notice: interruption of proceedings, 1108; answers, 1116; guidelines, 1750. Abolition of State body, 1489. Availability of reports, Clark, Mr (Box Hill) 2110. Motion for Joint Select Committee on Parliamentary committees, 2118. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 918. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Australian Loan Council - Borrowing limits, q 13. Salary) Bill, 441. Deaths - Hon. Sir George Reid, QC, 7. Planning - Werribee corridor, 1325. Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1470. Points of Order - Remarks: relevance, 255; offensive, Land Tax (Amendment) Bill, 1098. 1912. Adjournment debate: jurisdiction of matter raised, 568. Admissibility of motion, 658. Rule of Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Alert anticipation, 679. Wording of circulated motion, 739. Digest: availability of reports, 2048. Audibility, 1509. References to Public Gallery, 1949. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1974. Bill procedure under section 62 of Constitution Act, 2115. Standing Order No. 173,2115. Scope of debate, State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 1315. 2323. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 918. Public Service - Superannuation, 756, 1245. Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, 1850. Public Transport - Werribee rail service, 124,474, 1557; rail crossings in Werribee, 2040. Roads Corporation - Roadworks in Werribee, 1834. Coghlll, Dr (Werribee) Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Alert Digest: availability of reports, 2110. Address by Minister for Finance, 756. Sheep Owners Protection (Repeal) Bill, 571. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 966. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Appropriation (Parliament 1992-93) Bill, 1548. Bill,582. Barley Marketing Bill, 696, 709, 712. Speaker, The - Dissent from ruling, 2118. Business Franchise (Petroleum Products) State deficit levy, 250. (Amendment) Bill, 1912. Superannuation - Address by Minister for Finance, Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, 756. State schemes, 1245. Donoughmore (UK) report, 65. 1246. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 966. BiIl,1396. Supply (Parliament 1993-94, No.l) Bill, 1548. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1167. WorkCover - Cessation of benefits, 1217. Corrections (Management) Bill, 874. Crimes (Criminal Trials) Bill, 2155. Debits Tax (Amendment) Bill, 1036. Cole, Mr (Melbourne) Education - Werribee Grange Secondary College, 1074. Emergency teachers, 1074. Address by Minister for Finance, 675. Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill, 1824. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 922. (18) INDEX

Barley Marketing Bill, 707, 711,713. Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Bill, 1618. Board of Studies Bill, 1542. Superannuation - Address by Minister for Finance, Casino Control (Amendment) Bill, 1429. 675. State schemes, 1488. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 922. 76. Children's Court psychiatric service closure, 159, Vic Statutes Project, q 374, q 375, 400. 165. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Bill,1391. Coleman, Mr (Bennettswood) (Minister for Natural City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1200. Resources) Commercial Arbitration (Amendment) Bill, 515. Animals - Duck hunting, 730. Leadbeater's possum, Corrections (Management) Bill, 867, 1008, 1020. 2098. Crimes (Criminal Trials) Bill, 2137, 2154, 2155. Burglar Alarms - Regulation of noise emission, 1630. Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1871. Conservation and Environment - Fuel reduction Education - Flemington High School, 158. Debney burning, 128,403. Pollution of Mordialloc Creek, Park High School, 158. 185. Noxious weed control, 403. Pines Flora and Fauna Reserve, 833. Proposed Environment Equal Opportunity (Amendment) Bill, 1859. Protection Authority office in western suburbs, 973. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 2257, 2264. Native forest operations, 1561. River works near Powelltown, 1776. In Sandringham, 1776. Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill, 1600. Conservation and Natural Resources, Department of - Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 1739,2245, Savings, 128. Compulsory unionism, 128. 2250. Crown Land Acts (Amendment) Bill, 1336, 1504,2120, Funerals (Pre-Paid Money) Bill, 1926, 2007. 2126. Government, The - Preparation of legislation by Environment Protection Authority - Proposed office private firms, 1488. in western suburbs, 973. Regulation of burglar alarm Health - Family planning clinics, 158. emissions, 1630. Land Tax (Amendment) Bill, 1099. Fishing Industry - Abalone poaching, 42. Gippsland Law Reform Commission - Abolition, 157. Vic Lakes fishermen, 1328. Recreational use of Statutes project, q 374, q 375,400. Waranga-Mallee water channel, 2356. Law Reform Committee - Report on restitution for Forests (S.E.A.S. Sapfor Ltd Agreement) Bill, 977, 1087, victims of crime, proposed changes to the Wills Act 1795. and directors and managers of insolvent Geelong and District Water Board - Black Rock corporations, 1227. treatment plant, q 1966,2045. Legal Profession Practice (Guarantee Fund) Bill, 2303, Hamilton Water Board, 42. 2315. Land (Amendment) Bill, 1380. Library services - For Ballarat, 166. Land (Crown Grants and Reserves) Bill, 262, 382, 766, Meat Industry Bill, 1269. 769. Ministry, The - Minister (or Fair Trading: Land (Miscellaneous Matters) Bill, 977, 1088, 1806. performance, q 630. Latrobe Region Water Authority, 565. Points of Order - Questions without notice: answers Melbourne Hovercraft Club, 729. 17. Remarks: unparliamentary, 924; offensive, 1005, 1202, 1696, 1740; relevance, 1991. Scope of debate, Melbourne Water - Relocation of employee, 257. Debt, 1694. Bill procedure under section 62 of Constitution q 410. Clearing of tree branches in Knox, 973. River Act, 2116. Standing Order No. 173,2116. works near Powelltown, 1776. Black Rock treatment plant, q 1966,2045. Operation Sewer Safe, 2045, Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1693. 2288. Use of Brimbank Park by community Prostitution Regulation Act 343. organisations, 2045. Sewer collapse in Elsternwick, Public Service - Superannllation, 675, 1488. 2288. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2229. Minerals - Mining in Chiltern Regional Park, 833. Republic AdviSOry Committee - Membership, 1573. Murray-Darling Basin Bill, 513, 836. Residential Tenancies (Wat('r and Utilities Charges) Noxious Weeds - Serrated tussock,403. Bill, 2082, 2086, 2087. Parks - Chiltern Regional, 833. Pine trees in Sentencing Act - Amendment, q 17. Dandenong Valley Park, 973. Kalorama, 1560. Brimbank, 2045. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1948, 1953. Points of Order - Scope of debate, 1789. Shop Trading (Further Amt'ndment) (Amendment) Bill, 589, 597. Residential Tenancies (Water and Utilities Charges) Bill, 2086, 2087. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (19)

Rural Water Corporation - Sunraysia Regional Sheep Owners Protection (Repeal) Bill, 575. Management Board, 1838. Recreational use of Small Business - Liquidation legislation, 342. Waranga-Mallee water channel, 2356. State Bank Victoria - Employee medical benefits SEAS Sapfor Ltd, 257. scheme, 826. Senior Citizens - Concessions, q 1784. Ruli,.gs IJ,", StlJUmmts .. Acti,.g ChlJ;""IJ,. - South Gippsland Water Board - Waste discharge, Debate - Interjections, 1976. Scope, 1979. 1078. Timber Industry - Softwood sawmilling in Ruli,.gs lJ,.d StlJUmmts 11. Acti"g SpelJker - south-western Victoria, 257. Victorian Plantations Corporation, 729. Proposed pulp and paper mill, Debate - Imputations against members, 440. Calling 1561. Logging practices, 2098. of quorums, 586. Interjections, 953. Reading of speeches, 1054. Offensive remarks, 1054. Scope, Unions - Membership, 128. 1754,2323,2324. Victorian Fishing Industry Federation - Levy, 1328. Victorian Plantations Corporation - Location, 729. Victorian Plantations Corporation Bill, 1585, 1759,2134, 2137. Cunningham, Mr (Melton) Water - Levy, 42. Hamilton Water Board, 42. Proposed widening of Ruffey Creek, Templestowe, Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1454, 1467. 257. Latrobe Region Water Authority, 565. Fun~rals (Pre-Paid Money) BilI,2003. Responsibilities of City of Sale, 565. Waste Petitions - University campus at Caloola Training discharges to coastal waters, 1078. Disused aqueduct Centre, 836. in Eltham, 1560. Saline spill into Barwon River, 1560. Lough Calvert drainage scheme, 1560. Pensioner Public Transport - Sprinter trains, 1217. concessions, q 1784. Rural services committees, 1838. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2226. Water (Amendment) Bill, 2193, 2342. Ruli,.gs lI,.d StllUmmts liS Acti,.g SpelJker - Debate - Imputations against members, SOO. Interjections, 937. Offensive remarks, 1346. Cooper, Mr (Mornington)

Address-in-Reply,242. Davi., Mr (Essendon) Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 244. Caravan Parks and Movable Dwellings (Amendment) Address-in-Reply,235. Bill, 1762. Agenda 21 - Announcement, q 2202. Projects, q 2202. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Building and Construction Industry - Civic building 93. projects, q 2202. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1181. Children - Abuse, q 633. Corporations Law - Liquidations, 342. Economy, The - Agenda 21 projects, q 2202. Economy, The -Government policies, 245. Education - Essendon/East Keilor District College, Electoral-State election, 243. 237. Electorates - Mornington, 242. Electorates - Essendon, 236. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1636. Essendon, City of - Debt, 237. Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill, 1609. Government, The - Agenda 21: announcement, q 2202; projects, q 2202. Go'vernment, The - Economic policies, 245. Petitions -School closures, 19. Essendon and District Land (Crown Grants and Reserves) Bill, 770. Memorial Hospital, 2175. Western bypass, 2290. Local Government (General Amendment) Bill, 2017. Planning - Development of WiIlsmere Hospital site, Members - Naming and suspension of Mr Micallef, q 1139. 1106. Roads Corporation - Roads in Essendon, 237. Parliament -Questions without notice: interruption of Unemployment - In Essendon, 238. proceedings, 1106. Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, q 1748. Petitions - Penalties for serious sexual offences, 20. lNewport-WilIiamstown train service, 261. Poilnts of Order -Offensive remarks, 166, 1912. Use of correct titles, 307, 814. Imputations against Dean, Mr (Berwick) members, SOO, 2246. Scope of debate, 1309, 1467. Adjournment debate: only one matter to be raised, Address-in-Reply, 113. 1712. Seconding of reasoned amendment, 2304. (20) INDEX

Animals - Dangerous dogs, q 2204. Education - Victorian certificate of education, 493. Budget - Of fonner government, q 628. Schools of the Future program, q 1499. Interest subsidy program, q 1782. Casino Control (Amendment) Bill, 1432. Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2056. Commercial Arbitration (Amendment) Bill, 518. Grievances, 493. Economy, The - Activities of union movement, q 1493. Parliament - Role, q 753. Electorates - Berwick, 113. Petitions - Gardiner Park, Glen Iris, 19. Legal Aid - Funding, q 200. Public Transport - Reform, q 194. Legal Profession - Reform, 116. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2217. Liberal Party - Philosophy, 114. Tertiary Education Bill, 1671. Petitions - Emergency teacher employment, 2289. Victorian Principals Federation, q 1499. Unions - Program of stoppages, q 1493. Vocational Education and Training (College Employment) Bill, 781.

Deizoppo, Mr (Narracan) (See "Speaker, The (Hon. J. E. Delzoppo)") Elder, Mr (Ripon) Board of Studies Bill, 1529. Dollls, Mr (Richmond) Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2066. Institute of Educational Administration (Repeal) Bill, Address-in-Reply,231. 1733. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1053. Library Services - For Ballarat, q 160. Barro Group Pty Ltd - Gisborne quarry, 122,622, 1829. Points of Order - Quoted documents, 496, 498. Board of Studies Bill, 1538. Dredging - In Western Port, q 1749. Education - School cleaning contracts, 563, 1126. Elliott, Mrs (Mooroolbark) Clifton Hill Primary School, 1126. Ballam Park Primary School, 1126. Board of Studies Bill, 1539. Electoral- Federal election, 231. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, 69,75. Preschool education budget, q 291. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1635, 1655. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Government, The - Taxation policies, 231. Bill,l409. Land (Crown Grants and Reserves) Bill, 763, 767. Corrections - Rehabilitation for drug-dependent Liberal Party - Philosophy, 232. female prisoners, q 634. Parliament - Business of the House: postponement, Corrections (Management) Bill, 825. 617. Health - Family planning clinics, 402. Planning -Gisborne planning scheme amendment, Melbourne Hovercraft Club, n6. 122, 622, 1829. Petitions - Fencing for pools and spas, 976. Points of Order -Sexist language, 617. Imputations against members, 768. Reading of speeches, 1054. Public Transport -City circle tram loop, q 1745. Remarks: offensive, 1054; veracity, 1132. Reflections Relocation of Mooroolbark bus stop, 2039. on fonner statutory heads, 1651. Comments of Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, q 1967. member for Cranbourne, 2108. Women's Affairs - Family planning clinics, 402. Republic Advisory Committee - Membership, 1582. Prisoners, q 634. Shipping -Supertankers, q 1749. Subdivision (Amendment) Bill, 1506, 1507,2157. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1053. Finn, Mr (Tullamarine)

Ammunition - Naval storage at Greenvale, 2280. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 963. Doyle, Mr (Malvern) Community Services - Closure of Caloola Training Board of Studies Bill, 1520, 1544. Centre, 1243. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Conservation and Environment - Noxious weed Bill,139O. control, 401. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (21 )

Defence Housing Authority - Rezoning of Laverton Ivanhoe-Diamond Valley Centre - Activities, 1770. properties, 2280. Liberal Party - Election promises, 149. Electorates - Keilor, 619. Local Government - Funding for school crossing Grievances, 1243. supervisors, 1490. Keilor City Council - Service road, 2094. Ministry, The - Minister for Health: office accommodation, q 893, q 896. Noxious Weeds - Serrated tussock, 401. Parliament - Business of the House: postponement, Petitions - Essendon and District Memorial Hospital, 395,614. 2175. Petitions - State deficit levy, 201, 733. Review of Planning - Rezoning of Laverton properties, 2280. psychiatric hospitals and community services, 1719. Public Transport - MetTicket, q 593. Tullamarine bus Funding for family planning services, 1841. services, 1710. Protection for transport accident victims, 1939,2289. Public Transport Corporation - Purchase and sale of Points of Order - Quoted documents, 615. tow trucks, q 2314. Public Advocate - Portfolio responsibility, 39. Roads Corporation - Melrose Drive, Tullamarine, Public Transport - Rosanna railway station, 969. 2094. Roads Corporation - School crossing supervisors, Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 963. 1490. Youth Affairs - Western suburbs refuge, q 1140. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1976. Homelessness, q 1500. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Bill, 548, 716, 717. STAR Victorian Action on Intellectually Disabled, 152. Garbutt, Mrs (Bundoora) Sunraysia Youth Accommodation Service,474. Address-in-Reply, 149. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 940. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 940. Turalla Respite Care Service, 180. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Victorian Council of Social Service, 152. Bill,l381. Victorian Family and Children's Services Council, 152. Collective of Self-Help Groups, 151. Women's Affairs - Family planning services, 746. Community Services - Youth Affairs- Homelessness, 150,474. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, 52. Mandatory reporting of abuse, 149. Supported accommodation assistance program, 149,474. Homeless, 150. Abuse, 1220, 1711. Warrawong Gude, Mr (Hawthorn) (Minister for Industry and Day Care Kindergarten, 1932. Employment) Disability Services - Turalla Respite Care Service, 180. Regional residential associations, 1249. Aboriginal Affairs - Alleged police brutality, 2288. Management of residents' funds, 1555. Accident Compensation (WorkCover Insurance) Bill, Ivanhoe-Diamond Valley Centre for intellectually 1918. disabled adults, 1770. General- Funding: for community groups, 151; for Address by Minister for Finance, 658, 659, 660. Collective of Self-Help Groups, 151; welfare, Appropriation (Parliament 1992-93) Bill, 1545. q 2102, q 2104, q 2107. Audit (Tender Board) Bill, 1082, 1769. Education - Visiting teacher service, 560. School Australasia Marketing Investments - Private cleaning contracts, 728. Greenwood Primary School, insurance cover scheme, 1777. 728. Voluntary departure packages, 882. Budget, Australian Industrial Relations Commission- 1128, 1624. Teacher retrenchments, 1128. Bayswater Structure, q 1641, q 2072. High School, 1129. Doveton North Primary School, 1129. Watsonia North Primary School, 1129. Bills -Correction, 108. Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2065. Board of Studies Bill, 1508, 1509. Employment - Participation rate, 2190. Building and Construction Industry - Tendering practices, q 2312. Fitzroy Adventure Playground, 153. Business and Employment, Department of - Grey Sisters - Funding, 153, q 893, q 2107. Employment contracts, q 1745. Private insurance Grievances, 1249. cover scheme, 1777. Health - Family planning services, 746. Business Franchise (Petroleum Products) (Amendment) Bill, 1911. Health and Community Services, Department of - Comments of secretary, q 1256, q 1365. Budget, Club Keno Bill, 2269. q 2102, q 2104, q 2107. Deaths - Hon. Sir Murray Porter, 2. (22) INDEX

Disability Services - Ivanhoe-Diamond Valley centre, University of Technology, Victoria University of 1776. Technology, Deakin University, La Trobe Economic Development Committee - Membership, University and Victorian Health Promotion Foundation, 1047, 1332. 1005. Economy, The - Wages accord, q 74. Personal Explanations -Statement in debate, 1786. Education -Secondary school sports meetings, 731. Points of Order - Tabling of reports, 107. Calling of Misuse of position by teachers, 1330. Sunbury quorums, 493. Scope of debate, 715,1568, 1756,1757, Secondary College, 1330. 2113,2114. Motions: admissibility, 734, 1565; Egg and Poultry Industry - Dispute at Salvatore Egg wording of circulated, 740. Offensive remarks, 1201, Farm,q 752. 1330,1576,1755,1771,2257. Comments of member for Cranbourne, 2108. Equal Opportunity (Amendment) Bill, 1859. Police - Employment contracts, 346. Public safety, Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 2256, 2257. 1631. Alleged brutality, 2288. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1634. Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1684, 1685. Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 1757,2239, Public Service - Superannuation, 658, 659, 660. Private 2240. insurance cover scheme, 1777. Government Departments and Instrumentalities - Public Transport -St Albans rail easement, 834. Defence force reserve volunteers, 403. Tendering Stations: Rosanna, 974; Lalor, 1561; vandalism, 1561; processes, 2351. unmanned, 1777; Jacana, 1777. Government, The - Media activities, 2351. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2239. Home Energy Advisory Service - Funding, 974. Republic Advisory Committee - Membership, 1575. Hospitals - Lakeside, q 1364. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1941, 1942. Industry and Employment - Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Employment - Wages accord, q 74. Victorian BilI,588. Employment Committee, q 164. Youth Small Business - State deficit levy anomalies, 348. Employment Committee, 185. JobBank scheme, q 627, q 632, q 633. Participation rate, 2180. Small Business Development Corporation - Industrial Relations - Federal award coverage, q 289, Restructure, 1776, 1786. q 293, q 378, q 410, q 1106. Commonwealth-State Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1594, 1595. arrangements, q 376. Dispute at Salvatore Egg State Deficit Levy - Anomalies, 348. Farm, q 752. Unfair dismissals, 833. Employment contracts: at Lakeside Hospital, q 1364; Australian State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 1307, 1308. Industrial Relations Commission, 1641, q 2072. Superannuation - Address by Minister for Finance, Department of Business and Employment, q 1745. 658,659,660. Transport Workers Union log of claims, 18~5. Supply (Parliament 1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1545. Ivanhoe-Diamond Valley Centre - Activities, 1776. Tattersall Consultations (Reporting) Bill, 2333. Joint Printing Committee - Establishment, 1829. Tertiary Education Bill, 1662. Law Courts - Determination of Magistrates Court on Transport Workers Union - Log of claims, 1835. employment contracts, q 1364. Vic Statutes Project, 403. Law Reform Commission - Vic Statutes project, 403. Victoria Racing Club (Amendment) Bill, The, 2333. Leeds Media and Communication Services, 2351. Victorian Employment Committee, q 164. Melbourne Home Insulation, Keysborough, 974. Violence - Public safety, 1631. Alleged police Members - Naming and suspension: of Hon. B. E. brutality,2288. Davidson, MLC, 738; of member for Springvale, 1104. Youth Employment Committee, 185. Ministry, The - Minister for Industry and Employment: correspondence with Australian Industrial Relations Commission, q 1641. Haermeyer, Mr (Yan Yean) Overseas Projects Corporation of Victoria - Report for year 1991-92, 733. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1067. Parliament- Community Services - Funding of services in north-eastern suburbs, 1934. Business of the House - Programming of Grievance days, 133, 137. Programming, 1501. Parliamentary Education - School closures, 1125. Emergency reform, 1502. Strategic ManDgement Review of the teachers at Panton Hill Primary School, 2281. Parliament of Victoria, 1503. Postponement, 2093, Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill, 1818. 2344. Eltham Foodshare Network, 1934. Joint Sittings -Senate vacancy, 1047, 1332. Victorian Institute of Marine Sciences, Swinburne LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (23)

Fire Services - Shelter at Panton Hill Primary School, Local Government (General Amendment) Bill, 2029. 2281. Marine (Amendment) Bill, 1810. Hospitals - Proposed for Epping, 41,125,562. Meat Industry Bill, 1260. Local Government - Funding for school crossing Murray-Darling Basin Bill, 1301. supervisors, 1323. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Ministry, The - Remarks of Minister for Health, 562. Salary) Bill, 464. North Riding Community Action Group, 1934. Points of Order - Offensive remarks, 1193, 1346. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Police - Alleged brutality, 2279. Salary) Bill, 463. Racism - AFL incident, 1218. Points of Order - Reading of speeches, 1068. Reflections on members, 1234. Sport, Recreation and Racing - Racist remarks at AFL match, 1218. Public Transport - In Craigieburn, 181. Extension of railway line to South Morang, 2164. State Deficit Levy - Application to Yallambie elderly persons village, 1556. Roads Corporation - School crossing supervisors, 1323. State Electricity Commission - Restructure, 226. Corporatisation, 1344. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Bill, 542, 609. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 933. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1067. Tertiary Education Bill, 1663, 1679, 1680, 1681. Vic~orian Plantations Corporation Bill, 2131. Violence - Alleged police brutality, 2279. Hamilton, Mr (Morwell) Vocational Education and Training (College Employment) Bill, 772, BOB, 809. Aboriginal Affairs - Compassionate leave for Koori prisoner, 826. Racist remarks at AFL match, 1218. Alleged police brutality, 2279. Address-in-Reply,224. Hayward, Mr (Prahran) (Minister for Education) Agriculture - Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 1627. Department -Government policies, 989. Budget, Board of Studies Bill, 512, 611, 1517. 2041. General- Benalla regional veterinary laboratory, Education - 2097. Department - Budget, q 376, q 893, 1627. Carmichael Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 933. competenc;y project allocations, 476. Voluntary Australian Football League - Racist remarks at match, departure packages, q 1004. Directorate of School 1218. Education, q 629, q 630, q 634, q 863, q 2075. General-School closures, 138, 254, q 415, q 754, Barley Marketing Bill, 682, 687, 705, 706, 707, 708, 712. q 755, q 865, 1131, q 1135, q 1139. Literacy Board of Studies Bill, 1523. standards, 254. South-Eastern Corridor Education Task Force, 254. School cleaning contracts, 348, Children - Kindergarten funding, 1930. 565, 1132. Work experience, 348, 405. School Safe City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1193. program, 405. Kalparri program, 476. Tottenham Commonwealth-State Relations, 227. Language Centre, 476. School councils, 624. Directorate of School Education consultancies, Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1886. q 629, q 630, q 634, q 863. School sports, 1132. Crown Land Acts (Amendment) Bill, 2124. School retention rate, 1133. Schools of the Future, q 1254, q 1499. School grounds maintenance, Dairy Industry - Deregulation, 225. q 1255. Superannuation contributions, q 1497, Education - Tertiary education in rural Victoria, 39, q 1642. Assistance for deaf students, 1627. Role of 266. Maffra Primary School, 1128. Tubbut Primary school principals, 1627, 1713, q 2073. Interest School, 1624. Teachers in remote areas, 1624. subsidy program, q 1782. Teaching of Indonesian Goongerah Primary School, 2166. Teacher housing language, q 1785. in remote areas, 2166. School Education - Reorganisation of schools, 42. Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2062, 2078, 2079, 2081. Redbank Primary School, q 291, q 292. Parkdale Secondary College, 347. Sunbury Secondary Education, Department of - Directorate of School College, 348. Bairnsdale Primary School, q 377. Education, q 2074. Lakes Entrance Primary School, 404. Oberon High Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill, 1368, 1813. School, 564. Doncaster Park Primary School, 565. Merriang Special Developmental School, 624. Employment - In Latrobe Valley, 226. Clifton Hill Primary School, 1132. Maffra Primary Energy - Toora wind farm project, 561. School, 1132. Barwon Valley School, q 1255. Kennington Primary School, 1627. Tubbut Forests (S.E.A.S. Sapfor Ltd Agreement) Bill, 1791. Primary School, 1627. Facilities in Mill Park, 1627. (24) INDEX

Taylors Lakes Secondary College, 1628. Merger of Henderson, Mn (Geelong) Banyule and Rosanna East high schools, q .1870. Knox Gardens Primary School, q 2313. Children - Child-care services, 1711. Teachers - Emergency, q 291, q 292, q 377, 404, 565, Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) q 628, 1132, q 1136, q 1140, q 2313. Industrial Bill,1394. action,347. Misuse of position, 348. Staffing, q 755. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1165. Retrenchments, 1132. Negotiations, q 1365. In remote areas, 1627. (See also ''Unions'') Education - Industrial action by teachers, 344. Deakin University, Geelong campus, q 1779. Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 1257, 1350, 2069, 2078, Energy - Gas prices, q 754. 2079,2080,2081. Funerals (Pee-Paid Money) Bill, 1996. Institute of Educational Administration (Repeal) Bill, 976, 1082, 1735, 1736. Gas and Fuel Corporation - Gas prices, q 754. Public Service - Voluntary departure packages, Government, The -Policies in Geelong, q 1779. q 1004. Superannuation, q 1497, q 1642. Health - Tuberculosis, q 1643. Superannuation -State schemes, q 1497, q 1642. Institute of Educational Administration (Repeal) Bill, Tertiary Education Bill, 977,1083, 1679, 1680, 1681, 1682. 1723. Unions - Australian Teachers Union: policies, 42; Petitions - Melbourne-Warmambool passenger train negotiations, q 1365. Victorian Secondary Teachers service, 133,481. Emergency teachers, 481, 835. Association: industrial action, 347; negotiations, Institute of Educational Administration, 835. q 1365. Victorian Principals Federation: negotiations, Planning -Geelong regional growth, q 2311. q 1365; support for government reforms, q 1499. Tourism - A New Future for Victorian Tourism, q 1135. Federated Teachers Union of Victoria: negotiations, q 1365. Affiliated Teachers Federation: negotiations, Unions - Industrial action by teachers, 344. q 1365. Vocational Education and Training (College Employment) Bill, 262, 381, 807, 808, 809. Honeywood, Mr (Warrandyte) Crown Land Acts (Amendment) Bill, 2122. Heffeman, Mr (Ivanhoe) (Minister for Small Business, Deaths - Hon. Sir George Reid, QC, 8. and Minister responsible for Youth Affairs) Economy, The - Fightback package, q 71. Address-in-Reply, 327. Employment - Participation rate, 2188. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 327. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1635, 1651. Economy, The - Bankruptcies, 330. Land (Miscellaneous Matters) Bill, 1805. Electorates - Ivanhoe, 327. Points of Order - Tabling of documents, 1653, 1656. Relevancy of remarks, 1655. Government, The - Small business policies, 327. Victorian Employment Committee, q 164. Grievances, 502. Local Government - Charges, 330. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Salary) Bill, 456. Hyams, Mr (Dromana) Points of Order - Unparliamentary expressions, 564. Address-in-Reply, 206. Scope of debate, 716, 1043. Australian Chamber of Manufactures - Survey, q 1001. Sherbrooke, Shire of - Youth affairs programs, 2098. Budget, The - Deficit, 208. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Bill, 109, 172, 599, 724. Electorates - Dromana, 206. Small Business - Government Departments and Instrumentalities­ Tendering processes, q 2103. Development Corporation - Abolition, 44, 477, 502. Health - Auditor-General's report on visiting medical General - Government policies, 327 officer arrangements, q 1364.

Taxation - Government charges, 330. Law Reform Commission - Excesses, q 293. Unemployment - Levels, 329. Petitions - Emergency phones - Frankston-Rosebud freeway, 19. Emergency teachers, 835. Youth Affairs - Homelessness, 502,564, q 1500. Unemployment, 502, 564. Western suburbs refuge, Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, 1855. q 1140. Street Kids program, q 1500. Outreach programs, 2098. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (25)

Jasper, Mr (Murray Valley) Police - Escort for cycle race, 2351. Address-in-Reply, 370, 379. Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1705. Agriculture - In north-eastern Victoria, 372, 379. Small Business - In Ballarat, 223. Occupational health and safety program for farmers, Sport, Recreation and Racing - Melbourne to Ballarat 1217. Clover growers, 1770. Seed testing and cycle race, 2351. certification, 1770. State Electricity Commission - Morwell briquette Dairy Industry - Dairy Week, 473. factory, q 2074. Education - School cleaning contracts, 346. School Tourism - In Ballarat, 222. councils, 620. Tungamah Primary School, 1624. Vehicle Industry - Exports of fire services equipment, Electorates - Murray Valley, 372. q755. Government Employee Housing Authority - Review Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, q 1641. of properties, 1624. Hospitals - Wangaratta District Base, 1833. Industry Services -Occupational health and safety John, Mr (Bendigo East) (Minister for Community program for farmers, 1217. Services) Murray-Darling Basin Bill, 1285. Aboriginal Affairs - United Nations International Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Bill (No. 2),420. Year of Indigenous Peoples, 356. Royal Commission Parliament - Hours of sitting, 371. Questions without into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody, 356. Land rights, notice: Standing Orders, 370. 356. Health, 357. Funding equity, 358. Criminal justice system, 1130. Racist remarks at AFL match, Petitions - Passenger rail service - Cobram and 1222. Seymour, 20. Address-in-Reply, 355. Planning - Zoning of Yarrawonga land, 125. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, Police -Complexes: for Wangaratta, 2096; for q 2105. Numurkah,2164. Barwon Information Network, 1935. Public Transport - Country rail services, 373. Agreement with railway unions, 379. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) BilI,969, 1005, 1420. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Bill,538. Citizens Advice Bureaux - Funding, 1935. Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1598. Community Services - Textile Industry - Work practices, 372. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, 47. Preschool education budget, q 291. Abuse, Unemployment - Rate, q 162. q 633. Foster care services for disabled, q 865. Victorian Farmers Federation -Occupational health Kindergartens: employment contracts, q 1644; and safety program, 1217. funding, 1935; Warrawong Day Care, 1935. Child care, 1717. Representation at Children's Court, Vocational Education and Training (College q 1785. Employment) Bill, 792. Disability Services - Turalla Respite Care Service, Wine Industry - In north-eastern Victoria, 372. 186. Foster care for children, q 865. Funding, 1078. Yarrawonga - Housing blocks, 125. Management of residents' funds, 1559. Mayday Hills Training Centre, 1935. Rulings Ilnd Stlltements IlS Acting Spellker - General - Supported accommodation assistance Debate -Offensive remarks, 2257. programs, 479, 1717. Programs in Keilor Downs, 479. Neighbourhood houses, 1935. Funding: of services in north-eastem suburbs, 1936; welfare, q 2105; of Grey Sisters, q 2108. Jenkins, Mr (Ballarat West) Corrections - Juvenile offender program, 1716. Address-in-Reply,221. Electorates - Bendigo East, 355. Board of Studies Bill, 1543. Eltham Foodshare Network, 1936. Electorates - Ballarat West, 221, 223. Funerals (Pre-Paid Money) Bill, 1306, 2006, 2007, 2008. Fire Services - Country Fire AuthOrity: vehicle manufacturing, q 755. Grey Sisters - Funding, q 2108. Hospitals - Waiting lists, q 511. Health - Aboriginal, 357. Welfare funding, q 2105, q 2108. Personal ExplanatiOns - Correction of division lists, 1759. Health and Community Services, Department of - Closure of Corio Village office, 186. Restructure, Petitions - Institute of Educational Administration, q 896. Budget, q 2108. 1563. Historic Shipwrecks (Amendment) Bill, 1859,2008. (26) INDEX

Industry and Employment - Kindergarten Freedom of Information - Limitation by government, employment contracts, q 1644. 143. Fightback package analysis, q 161. Release ()If documents, 483. Law Courts - Children's Court, q 1785. Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 1584, 1743, Ministerial Statements - Child protection, 47. 1751,2240. MiniStry, The - Minister for Health: office Government Departments and Instrumentalilies - accommodation, q 896. Tendering processes, q 1362, q 2203, q 2311, 2346.. North Riding Community Action Group, 1936. Government, The -Industrial relations policies, q 409, Parliament - Business of the House: postponement, 483. Administration, 482. Advertising contracts, 397,614. 1362. Media activities, q 2203, q 2311, 2346. Points of Order - Unparliamentary expressions, 1717. Grievances, 482, 1227. Public Advocate - Portfolio responsibility, 43. Hospitals - Lakeside, q 1364. Racism - AFL incident, 1222. Industry and Employment - Sport, Recreation and Racing - Transfer of funds for Department - Advertising contracts, q 1362. disabled, 1078. Employment - Public Service packages, 263. Job Bank Sunraysia Youth Accommodation Service, 479. scheme, q 627, q 632, q 633, q 1966. Participation rate, 2175. Turalla Respite Care Service, 186. Industrilll Reliltions - Employment contracts: for Unemployment - In Bendigo, 355. Chief Commissioner of Police, 144; for Youth Affairs -Homelessness, 419,1717. Youth Auditor-General and Ombudsman, q 1136, q 1253; Outreach program, 1716. Juvenile offenders, 1716. Lakeside Hospital, q 1364; Department of Business Street Kids project, 1717. Youth Accommodation and Employment, q 1745. Federal award coverage Coalition of Victoria, 1717. for public sector employees, q 289, q 293, q 378, q 410, 483, q 1105, q 1963. Government policies, q 409, 483. Dispute at Salvatore Egg Farm, q 752. Australian Industrial Relations Commission, q 1641. Kenn~ Mr (Broadmeadows) (Leader of the Opposition from 22 March) Interpretation of Legislation (Amendment) Bill, 758, Address by Minister for Finance, 660, 662, 756. 759,760. Address-in-Reply, 140. Law Courts - Determination of Magistrates Court on Advertising - Government contracts, q 1362. employment contracts, q 1364. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1474, 1477. Leeds Media and Communication Services, 2203, q 2311,2346. Auditor-General- Employment contract, q 1136" q 1253. Liberal Party - Philosophy, 142. Australian Industrial Relations Commission - Manufacturing Industry - Industry assistance, q 2106. Structure, q 164t. Media -Government activities, 2203, q 2311, 2346. Business and Employment, Department of - Melbourne Casino, q 1779, q 1785, q 2199, q 2201. Employment contracts, q 1745. (See also "lndustry and Employment'1 Members - Naming and suspension of Mr Micallef, 1106,1111. Conduct, 1111. Casino Control (Amendment) Bill, 1426. Ministry, The - Shadow, 409. Premier: wine sales, Constitution, Australian - Review, q 891,1563,1567, q 590, q 592, q 594. Minister for Industry and q2101. Employment: correspondence with Australian Corrections - Prison administration, 142. Industrial Relations Commission, q 1641. Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 2193. Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Bill (No. 2),419. Deaths - Hon. J. H. Smith, 887. Ombudsman - Employment contract, q 1136, q 1253. Docklands Authority (Amendment) Bill, 1796. Parliament - Business of the House: programming of Grievance days, 134; postponement, 2344. Questions Economy, The - Fightback package, q 73, q 161. without notice: interruption of proceedings, 1106; Management, 484. Investment in Victoria, q 2106. answers, 1114. Joint sittings: Senate vacancy, 1332; Education - Emergency teachers, 1126. Parkdale Victorian Institute of Marine Sciences, Swinburne Primary School, 1126. Banksia Primary School, 1126. University of Technology, Victoria University of Meadow Heights Primary School, 1126. Role of Technology, Deakin University, La Trobe University school principals, 1622, 1708. and Victorian Health Promotion Foundation, 1332. Egg and Poultry Industry - Dispute at Salvatore Egg Availability of reports, 2048, 2111. Farm,q 752. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Electoral - Federal election, 482. Salary) Bill, 434. Employment - Public Service packages, 263. Petitions -State deficit levy, 897. Protection for transport accident victims, 2289. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (27)

Petroleum Products -Petrol levy, q 1493, q 1494. Constitution, Australian -Review, q 891, q 1495. Points of Order - Questions without notice: answers, Deaths - Hon. Sir Murray Porter, 1. Hon. Sir George 12, 13, 70, 71, 414, 416, 510, 593, 632, 2073; scope, 193; Reid, QC, 3. Hon. J. H. Smith, 887. not to be debated, 1138. Unparliamentary Economy, The - Benefit of Premier'S overseas mission, expressions, 564. Address by Minister for Finance, q 11. Fightback package, q 71, q 194, q 196. Debt 737. Offensive remarks, 1118, 1231, 1576, 1692, 1695. management, q 411, q 1641. Reform, q 592. Survey Scope of debate, 1569. Comments of member for on manufacturing activity, q 1001, q 1964. National Cranbourne, 2108. Adjournment debate: attendance Australia Bank QuIlrterly Business Survey, q 1137. of Minister, 2351. Quoted documents, 2354. Activities of union movement, q 1493, q 1496. Police - Employment contract for chief commissioner, Agenda 21 projects, q 2202. 144. Education - Deakin University, Geelong campus, Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1706. q 17'79. Public Service - Employee relations, 140. Employment Elgas Ltd - Purchase of Heatane gas division, q 2071. packages, 263. Superannuation, 484, q 507, q 510, Employment - JobBank scheme, q 1966. 660, 662, 756, 1487, q 1587, q 1588. Voluntary departure packages, q 889. Ethnic Affairs - Programs, 623. Racism - Racial Vilification Bill, q 1102. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 976, 1080, 1635, 1661. Republic Advisory Committee - Review of Australian Freedom of Information - Release of documents, 485. Constitution, q 891. Membership, 1563, 1567. Public Gas and Fuel Corporation - Sale of Heatane gas debate, q 2101. diviSion, q 2071. Roads Corporation - Domain tunnel and Western Government Departments and Instrumentalities - bypass projects, q 1493, q 1494, q 1782, q 2071. Female appointments, q 414. Tendering processes, Western Ring-road, q 1869. q 1362, q 2203, 2287, q 2312. Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Alert Government, The - Policies: industrial relations, q 409; Digest: availability of reports, 2048, 2111. Activities, in Geelong, q 1779. Media activities, q 1362, q 2203, q 2310. 2287, q 2312. Privatisation program, q 2071. Agenda Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1942, 1970. 21: announcement, q 2202; projects, q 2202. Superannuation - Unfunded liability, 484, q 1587, Grievances, 485. q 1588. State schemes, q 507, q 510, q 1587, q 1588. Hospitals - Proposed Epping, 563. Address by Minister for Finance, 660, 662, 756. Industrial Relations - Negotiations, q 374. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1474, 1477. Government policies, q 409. Federal award Taxation - Petrol levy, q 1493, q 1494. coverage, q 1102, q 1963. Employment contracts: for Auditor-General and Ombudsman, q 1136, q 1253. Victorian Commission of Audit - Chairman, q 861, q 864, q 1138, 1227. Report, 1848. Industry and Employment, Department of - Advertising contracts, q 1362. Italy - Political system, q 1000, 1075. Kennett, Mr (Burwood) (Premier, and Minister for Leeds Media and Communication Services, q 2203, Ethnic Affairs) 2287, q 2312. Library Services - For Ballarat, q 161. Advertising -Government contracts, q 1362. Local Government - Superannuation, 624. Municipal Agenda 21 - Announcement, q 2202. Projects, q 2202. amalgamations, 885. State deficit levy, q 890. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1475. Manufacturing Industry - Survey of Australian Auditor-General - Employment contract, q 1136, Chamber of Manufactures, q 1001, q 1964. q 1253. Media - Government activities, q 1362, q 2203, 2287, Australian Chamber of Manufactures - Survey, q 2312. q 1001, q 1964. Melbourne Casino, q 1779, q 2199. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, Ministry, The - Minister for Health: remarks, 563. q 1362. Premier: wine sales, q 591, q 592, q 594, 624; Budget - Autumn economic statement, q 411. comments on Italian political system, q 1000, 1075. Victorian Commission of Audit report, q 1641. Municipal Association of Victoria -State deficit levy Building and Construction Industry - Civic building proposal, q 890. projects, q 2202. Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Bill, 30, 433. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 757, 837, 1204, 1207, 1208, Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Bill (No. 2), 108, 167. 1209, 1210, 1212, 1214, 1215, 1216. National Australia Bank - QUllrterly Business Survey, Commonwealth Grants Commission - Grant q 1137. relativities, q 627. Ombudsman - Employment, contract, q 1136, q 1253. Commonwealth-State Relations - Government relationships, q 2200. (28) INDEX

Parliament - Role, q 753. Employment contracts for Petroleum Products - Fuel prices, 334. Auditor-General and Ombudsman, q 1136, q 1253. Police - Facilities, 334. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1703. Salary) Bill, 108, 168, 469. Tertiary Education Bill, 1675. Planning -Geelong regional growth, q 2311. Unions - Membership, 332. Points of Order -Statements in debate, 166. Documents: tabling, 344; quoted, 723. Questions Vocational Education and Training (College without notice: answers, 409,508. Address by Employment) Bill, 803. Minister for Finance, 736. Naming and suspension of member of Legislative Council, 738. Adjournment debate: responses to matters raised, 885. Offensive remarks, 892,893,1081. Pecuniary interests of Kimer, M. (WilIiamstown) (Leader of the Opposition members, 1215. until 22 March) Public Service -Superannuation, q 411,486, q 507, Address-in-Reply,386, q 510, q 1103. Female appointments, q 414. Voluntary departure packages, q 889. Industrial Board of Studies Bill, 1517. action, q 1104. Deaths - Hon. Sir Murray Porter, 1. Hon. Sir George Racial Vilification Bill, q 1102. Reid,QC,4. Republic Advisory Committee - Review of Australian Economy, The - Fightback package, q 70, q lOO, q 193, Constitution, q 891. Membership, q 1362, q 1495. q 196. Economic rationalism, 388. Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Education - Joseph Banks Secondary College, 387. Activities, q 2310. Carmichael competency project allocations, 472. School retention rate, 1129. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Bill, 721. Electoral - Federal election, 386. State Deficit Levy - Municipal Association of Victoria Employment - Public Service packages, 283. proposal, q 890. Programs, 390. State Electricity Commission - Privatisation of Loy Health - Family planning clinics, 390. Women, 882. Yang B, q 2071. Hospitals - Essendon campus, Royal Melbourne, 387. Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Bill, 385. Institute of Educational Administration (Repeal) Bill, Superannuation - Unfunded liability, q 411, 486. State 1729. schemes, q 507, q 510, q 1103. Local government, 624. Law Courts - Comments of judiciary on women and Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1475. sexual violence, 1709. Unemployment - Rates, q 162. Statistics, q 861. Legal Profession Practice (Guarantee Fund) Bill, 2318. Unions - Australian Services Union, 624. Public Liberal Party - Philosophy, 387, Service industrial action, q 1104, q 1105. Program of Murray-Darling Basin Bill, 1289. stoppages, q 1493, q 1496. Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Bill (No. 2), 168,424. Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, q 1641, 1645. Payroll Tax - Fightback agreement, q 70. Wool Industry - Federal assistance, q 1253. Petitions -Institute of Educational Administration, 1501. Mobil refinery in Williamstown and Altona, 1563. Kilgour, Mr (Shepparton) Point Gellibrand - Risk study, 1073. Address-in-Reply,331. Points of Order - Questions without notice: answers, 71. Ambulance Services -In Goulburn Valley, 1831. Public Service - Employment packages, 283. Senior City of Greater Geelong Bill - Community career positions for women, 1323. consultation, 1239. Public Transport - Fatalities at railway crossings, 2165. Corrections - Prison security, 334. Vocational Education and Training (College Corrections (Management) Bill, 1012. Employment) Bill, 788. Economy, The -Management, 331. Women's Affairs - Family planning clinics, 390. Education - Tertiary education in rural Victoria, 334. Health services, 882. Senior career positions in Public Service, 1323. Sexual violence, 1709. Electorates -Shepparton,331. Youth Employment Committee, 179. Fair Trading - Fuel prices, 334. Industrial Relations - SPC Ltd, 332. Meat Industry Bill, 1267. Petitions - Cuts to education, 417. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (29)

Leigh, Mr (Mordialloc) Leighton, Mr (Preston) Address-in-Reply,299. Accident Compensation (WorkCover Insurance) Bill, Advertising - Activities of fonner government, 489. 1905,1919. Ambulance Services - Metropolitan, 250. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1064. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 299, Appropriation (Parliament 1992-93) Bill, 1550. 489, 1236, 1486,2166. Leadership, 302. Public Australian Industrial Relations Commission- transport policies, 2279. Structure, q 2072. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Building and Construction Industry - Report of 101. Economic Development Committee, 2290. Conservation and Environment - Pollution of Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Mordialloc Creek, 179. Bill, 1405. Education - Industrial action by teachers, 343. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1195. Parkdale Secondary College, 343. Club Keno Bill, 2270. Electoral - Nunawading Province re-election, 300. Corrections (Management) Bill, 857,1009, 1017, 1019, Electorates - Mordialloc, 299. 1021. Employment - Participation rate, 2192. Debits Tax (Amendment) Bill, 1033. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1637. Economic Development Committee - Reports: Freedom of Infonnation (Amendment) Bill, 1752,2249. Victorian building and construction industry, 2290. Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1471. Education - In north-western suburbs, 33. Northlands Secondary College, 33. St Bernadette's Primary Government Departments and Instrumentalities - School, 725. Misuse of position by teachers, 1324. Tendering processes, 2166. Sunbury Secondary College, 1324. Grievances, 489, 1234. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 2259. Ministry, The - Remarks of fonner Minister for Police Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1455, and Emergency Services, 1071, 1234, 1486, 1709. 1462,1468. Parliament - Adjournment debate, 1227. Government, The - Open government, 33. Petitions - Industrial and associated legislation, 261. Heidelberg, City of - Funding for school crossing Pollutants in creeks, 1143. Institute of Educational supervisors, 725. Administration, 1143. Industrial Relations - Unfair dismissals, 828. Planning - Appointment of selection panels, 1326. Mayday Hills Training Centre, 1933. Points of Order - Matters raised: admissibility, 41; appropriateness, 620. Attendance of member at Members -Conduct, 1112. Naming and suspension of Community Development Committee, 448. Quoted Mr Micallef, 1112. documents, 562. Calling of quorums, 586. Scope of Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic debate, 606, 1740,2241. Pecuniary interests, 924. Salary) Bill, 436. Reading of speeches, 1054, 1070. Reflections on Points of Order - Tabling of reports, 106. Remarks: members, 1234. Reference to debate of same session, unparliamentary, 328; relevance, 1639, 1907; 1324. Televising of proceedings, 1471, 1472. offenSive, 1771. Calling of quorums, 586. Order of Attendance of Ministers at adjournment debate, call, 617. Division on question, 679. Scope of debate, 1489. 715,716,718. Questions without notice: not to be Police - Station for: Carrum, 1071, 1234, 1486; debated, 1141. Mordialloc, 1221, 1234, 1709; Moorabbin, 1486. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1982. Activities of officers in political affairs, 1709. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Public Transport - ALP policies, 2279. Bill, 527, 601, 723. Scali, McCabe, Sloves Pty Ltd, 490. Small Business - Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Development Corporation - Abolition, 34, 41, 473, Bill, 606. 1771. Annual report, 106. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 1310. General - Government policies, 34. State deficit levy Unemployment - Youth, 559. anomalies, 344. Unions - Industrial action by teachers, 343. Transport Workers Union log of claims, 1830. State Deficit Levy - Anomalies, 344. Youth - Homelessness, 559. Unemployment, 559. Superannuation (Compliance) Bill, 2296. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1064. Supply (Parliament 1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1550. Supported Accommodation Assistance Program, 1713. (30) INDEX

Youth Affairs - Homelessness, 1713. Youth Lupton, Mr (Knox) Accommodation Coalition of Victoria, 1713. Address-in-Reply, 246, 294. Agriculture - Proposed institute for horticultural development, q 755. Loney, Mr (Geelong North) Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 247. Air Services - A valon airport upgrade, 402. Federal election, 247. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 945. Economy, The - Government policies, 247. Barley Marketing Bill, 694. Electorates - Knox, 246. Barwon Information Network, 1931. Institute of Plant Sciences - Review, q 755. Board of Studies Bill, 1532. Petitions - Amendment of State Deficit Levy Act, 482. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Planning - Residential developments in Southbank 90. area, q 2075. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Police - Presence in Knox, 400,2349. Bill, 1410, 1414. Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1704. Citizens Advice Bureaux - Funding, 1931. Public Service - Superannuation, q 595. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1161, 1207, 1211. State Electricity Commission - Staffing at Fishennen's Corrections - Use of Geelong gaol site, 1769. Bend complex, q 1003. Corrections (Management) Bill, 871. Superannuation - Unfunded liability, q 595. Crown Land Acts (Amendment) Bill, 2125. Unemployment - In Knox, 247. Education - Institute of Educational Administration, 880. Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2058. McArthur, Mr (Monbulk) Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 226t. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Ethnic Affairs - Interpreting services, 1124. 86. Funding for early childhood field officer, 1488. Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill, 1611. Conservation and Natural Resources, Department of - Financial Counselling and Consumer Information Compulsory unionism, 123. Service, Geelong, 2278. Education - Budget, q 893. Health and Community Services, Department of - Electoral - Removal of election sign, 562. Closure of Corio Village office, 18t. Funerals (Pre-Paid Money) Bill, 2000. Institute of Educational Administration (Repeal) Bill, Government Departments and Instrumentalities­ 1725. Defence force reserve volunteers, 399. Land (Crown Grants and Reserves) Bill, 765. Health - United Kingdom Secretary of State for Local Government (General Amendment) Bill, 2020. Health, q 1257. National summit, q 1497. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic International Rotary Convention, q 2105. Salary) Bill, 459. Local Government - Pensioner concessions,827. Petitions - Coode Island chemical storage facility, 733, Meat Industry Bill, 1277. 1633. Municipal amalgamations, 836. Institute of Educational Administration, 1633. Melbourne Water - River works near Powelltown, 1773. Police - Traffic infringement payments, 2166. Parks - Kalorama, 1555. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2222. Petitions - Education budget, 20t. Track closure in Senior Citizens - Electricity reconnection services, Yarra Valley-Gembrook areas, 1563. Institute of 204t. Educational Administration, 2047. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Planning - Rural zoning in Monbulk, 1625. Bill, 549, 717, 718. Road Safety - Black spot intersections, 1072. State Deficit Levy - Application to Golden Beach estate, 475. Senior Citizens -Concessions,827. State Electricity Commission - Electricity reconnection Sherbrooke, Shire of - Youth affairs programs, 2005. services, 2041. Tecoma Area Traffic Calming Residents Group, len. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 945. Tourism -Signage in Dandenong Ranges, 1219. Tertiary Education Bill, 1673. Unions - Membership, 123. Vocational Education and Training (College Victorian Development Fund, q 508. Employment) Bill, 796. Youth -Outreach programs, 2095. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (31)

McGill, Mn (Oakleigh) Business Franchise (Petroleum Products) (Amendment) Bill, 1909, 1910, 1913. Children - Foster care services for disabled, q 865. Chemicals - Agricultural, 567. Education - Teaching of Indonesian language, q 1785. Dairy Industry - Productivity, 368. Pasture Electorates - Oakleigh, 175. production, 369, q 1784. Dairy Week, 477. Industrial Relations - Commonwealth-State Development initiatives, 626. Investment, q 1784. arrangements, q 375. Funding of research institutes, 1936. Members - Appreciation of services of former: Hon. Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill, 1258, 1367, 1368, 1827, Race Mathews, 175. 1828. Public Service - Female appointments, q 414. Electorates - Wimmera, 368. Keilor, 625. Food Development Authority, 626. Food Processing Industry - H. J., Heinz Co. Aust. Ltd, 130. McGrath, Mr J. F. (Warrnambool) Freedom of Information (Amendment) BiJI, 2247. Address-in-Reply, 315. Fruit and Vegetable Industry - Melbourne Wholesale Agriculture - Funding, 318, 499. Fruit and Vegetable Market Trust, q 1106. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 316, Government, The - Role, 367. 499. Grain Industry - Harvests, 369. Budget - Debt management, 499. Grievances, 1247. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Heinz, H. J. CO. Aust. Ltd, 130. 56. Institute for Sustainable Agriculture - Kyabram Dairy Industry - Productivity, 318, 499. campus, 1936. Economy, The - Management, 317. Institute of Plant Sciences - Review, q 755. Fishing Industry - Abalone poaching, 40. Japan - Beef markets, q 865. Grievances, 498. Kyabram Animal and Irrigated Pastures Research Members - Length of speeches, 319, 498. Institute, 1936. Petitions - Melbourne-Warrnambool passenger train Land Tax (Amendment) Bill, 682. service, 201. Dimboola-Melbourne rail service, 1786. Meat Industry - Abattoirs, 369. Vaccination against Public Transport - Rural services, 317. liver fluke, 403. Grass-fed beef exports, q 865. WorkCover - Rehabilitation, 319. Meat Industry Bill, 757, 841,1278,1280. (See also "Chairman of Committees, The'') Melbourne Wholesale Fruit and Vegetable Market Trust - Administration, q 1106. Murray-Darling Basin Bill, 613. McGrath, Mr W. D. (Wimmera) (Minister for Parliament - Business of the House: programming of Agriculture) Grievance days, 139; postponement, 613, 617. Plant Research Institute - Review, 1077. Seed testing Address-in-Reply, 367. and certification, 1774. Agriculture - Public Transport - Independent airport bus Department -Objectives, 369. Veterinary services to operations, 1839. racing industry, 1838. Funding of research Racing Industry - Equine research, development and institutes, 1936. veterinary services, 1838. General- Rural assistance, 259. Locust plague, q 292. Pasture production, 369,1077, q 1784. Vaccination Roads Corporation - Roadworks in Werribee, 1839. against liver fluke, 403. Chemicals, 567. Proposed Senior Citizens - Concessions, 1839. institute for horticultural development, q 755, Sheep Owners Protection (Repeal) Bill, 576. 1077. Government policies, 995. Regional Veterinary Laboratory at Bairnsdale, 1717. Clover Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 937. growers, 1774. Seed testing and certification, 1774. Supply (Parliament 1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1553. Unions - Enterprise bargaining, 130. Animals - Liver fluke in sheep and cattle, 403. Dangerous dogs, 730, 2204. Outbreak of disease at Victorian Abattoir and Meat Inspection Authority­ thoroughbred stable, Kilmore, 1838. Report for 1992, 106. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 937. Wool Industry - Assistance for growers, 625. Collapse in floor price, 1247. Federal assistance, q 1589. Appropriation (Parliament 1992-93) Bill, 1553. Barley Marketing Bill, 109, 169,703,705,706,707,708, 709,712,713, 714. (32) INDEX

McLellan, Mr (Franks ton East) amendment, 127,625, 1834. Zoning: of Yarrawon;ga land, 127; of school properties, 973. Metropolitan Address-in-Reply,228. area improvement plan, 257. Residential Building and Construction Industry - Tendering developments: inner-city, q 895; Southbank area, practices, q 2312. q 2075. Willsmere Hospital site, q 1139. Mining applications, 1224. Dual occupancy: in Eltham, 1331; Conservation and Environment - Pines Flora and in Sandringham, 1562. Werribee corridor, 1331. Fauna Reserve, 828. Appointment of selection panels, 1331. Western Economy, The -Government policies, 229. Port, q 1749. Historic buildings, q 2107. Rezoning of Laverton properties, 2286. Education - Monterey Secondary College, 229. Point Gellibrand - Risk study, 1977. Electorates - Frankston East, 228. Points of Order - Tabling of reports, 108. Wording of Government, The - Economic policies, 229. Car fleet, circulated motion, 739. Questions without notice: q 1868. answers, 866. Offensive remarks, 1004, 1193, 1346. Police - Violence, 230. Unparliamentary expressions, 1741. Public Transport - Reforms, q 1255. Public Service - Industrial action, q 1104. Small Business - Encouragement, 229. Republic Advisory Committee - Membership, 1580. Unemployment - Youth, 230. Roads Corporation - Melrose Drive, Tullamarine, 2098. Unions - Public transport reform package, q 1255. Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Youth - Unemployment, 230. Reports: Local Government (Reporting and Accounting) Regulations 1992, 1940. Shipping - Supertankers, q 1749. Mac1ellan, Mr (Pakenham) (Minister for Planning) Subdivision (Amendment) Bill, 1336, 1505, 1506,2158. Air Services - Avalon airport upgrade, 405. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1473. Ammunition - Naval storage at Greenvale, 2286. Unions - Public Service industrial action, q 1104. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1473. Victorian Chamber of Mines, 1224. Barro Group - Gisborne quarry, 127, 625, 1834. Victorian Government Major Projects Unit - Report for 1991-92, 106. Business of the House - Postponement, 394, 397. Yarrawonga - Housing blocks, 127. Caravan Parks and Movable Dwellings (A.mendment) Bill, 977, 1085, 1763. Chemicals - Proposed Hampton Park warehouse, 42. Defence Housing Authority - Rezoning of Laverton McNamara, Mr (Benalla) (Deputy Premier, Minister for properties, 2286. Police and Emergency Services, Minister for Corrections, and Minister for Tourism) Docklands Authority (Amendment) Bill, 1258, 1369, 1799. Aboriginal Affairs - Compassionate leave for Koori Dredging - In Western Port, q 1749. prisoner, 832. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, OS &: C Developments Pty Ltd - Unfulfilled contracts, 1331. q 2101. Education - Zoning of school properties, 973. Community Services - Welfare funding, q 2102. Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1464, 1467. Constitution, Australian - Review, 1571, q 2101. Historic Buildings - Planning controls, q 2107. Corrections- General- Rehabilitation for drug-dependent female Housing - Unfulfilled contracts of OS &: C Developments Pty Ltd, 1331. prisoners, q 634. Compassionate leave for Koori prisoner, 832. Offences of Correctional Services Keilor, City of - Service road, 2098. Division employee, q 863. Local Government (General Amendment) Bill, 1258, Prisons -Security, q 10, q 12, q 14, q 15. Industrial 1370,1372,2036,2087,2088,2089,2090,2091,2092. action by officers, q 629. Sale, 1222. Fairlea, 1562. Use of Geelong site, 1776. Administration, q 2075. Local Government (Reporting and Accounting) Regulations 1992 - Report of Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee, 1940. Corrections (Management) Bill, 262, 383, 878,1014, 1018, 1020, lOll, 1023. Mining Industry - Application of Mineral Resources Development Act, 1224. Deaths - Hon. Sir George Reid, QC, 5. Hon. J. H. Smith, 888. Parliament - Business of the House: hours of sitting, 1377. Drugs - Police raids, 1776. Planning - Proposed Hampton Park chemical Economy, The - Fightback package, q 70, q 160. warehouse,42. Gisborne planning scheme Investment in Victoria, q 2107. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (33)

Emergency Services Superannuation Scheme, q 756. Violence - Police raids, 1776. Emergency Services Superannuation (Special Women's Affairs - Prisoners, q 634. Payments) Bill, 1940,2049. Employment - Public Service packages, 272. Fire Services - Funding, q 412, 476. Country Fire Marple, Ms (Altona) Authority: vehicle manufacturing, q 755. Good Morning AmeriCll Program, q 1588. Advertising - Offensive, 2280. Government Departments and Instrumentalities - Agriculture - Government policies, 999. Tendering processes, q 2101. Animals - Duck hunting, 727. Leadbeater's possum, Health - Welfare funding, q 2102. 2094. Health and Community Services, Department of - Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 930. Budget, q 2102. Australian Institute of Family Studies - Report on International Rotary Convention, q 2105. small business, 884. Manufacturing Industry - Industry assistance, q 2107. Barley Marketing Bill, 692. Ministry, The - Remarks of former Minister for Police Board of Studies Bill, 1527. and Emergency Services, 1077. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Payroll Tax - Fightback agreement, q 70. 100. Points of Order - Questions without notice: answers, Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) 70,71; scope, 193. Admissibility of urgency motion, Bill, 1401. 1564. Offensive remarks, 1695. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1188. Police- Conservation and Environment - Fuel reduction Crime - Drug raids, 1776. burning, 398. Native forest operations, 1556. General- Minister's visit to country Victoria, q 16. Conservation and Natural Resources, Department of - Presence in Knox, 405, 2354. National Police Savings, 123. Ethnic AdviSOry Bureau, q 632. Escort for cycle Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1884. race, 2354. Staff - Participation of officers in political affairs, Crown Land Acts (Amendment) Bill, 2120. 1713. Forests (S.E.A.S. Sapfor Ltd Agreement) Bill, 1787. Stations - For Carrum, 1077. For Mordialloc, 1222, Funerals (Pre-Paid Money) Bill, 2001. 1713. Wangaratta, 2099. Knox,2354. Goods and Services Tax, 37. Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 977, 1090, 1685. Hamilton Water Board, 38. Public Service - Employment packages, 272. Health - Family planning services, 751. Superannuation, q 1587, q 1588. Industrial action, International Women's Day, 177. q 1587. Land (Amendment) Bill, 1378. Public Transport - Vinelander, q 1590. Minerals - Mining in Chiltern Regional Park, 828. Republic Advisory Committee - Membership, 1571. Public debate, q 2101. Murray-Darling Basin Bill, 1280, 1283. Road Safety - Motorcycles, q 1750. Parks - Chiltern Regional, 828. Sheep Owners Protection (Repeal) Bill, 471, 514, 577. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Salary) Bill, 468. Sport, Recreation and Racing - Melbourne to Ballarat cycle race, 23.54. Petitions - Industrial and associated legislation, 200. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 2109. Superannuation - Emergency services scheme, q 756. State schemes, q 1587, q 1588. Unfunded liability, Points of Order - Offensive remarks, 1683, 2242. q 1587, q 1588. Public Transport - Noise pollution, 1075. Rail services Swan Hill Pioneer Settlement - Management, 1561. in Altona, 1712. Train safety education, 2349. Transit Community Relations Unit, 2349. Tourism - Publications: A New Future for Victorian Tourism, q 1135; Jobs in Tourism, q 1590. Signage in Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2227. Dandenong Ranges, 1222. Swan Hill Pioneer Roads Corporation - Noise pollution in Laverton, Settlement, 1561. Good Morning AmeriCll program, 1075. Compliance with occupational health and q 1588. Regional tourist precincts, 2045. safety regulations for roadworks, 1326. Unions - United Firefighters Union, q 412, 477. State Rural Water Corporation - Sunraysia Regional Public Services Federation Victoria, q 629. Health Management Board, 1833. and Community Services Staff Association, q 629. Senior Citizens - Concessions, q 1784. Vehicle Industry - Exports of fire services equipment, q755. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1987. (34) INDEX

Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Unions - Enterprise bargaining, 124. Bill, 720. Ruli.. gs a ..d Statements as Acting Speaker - Small Business - Australian Institute of Family Debate - Scope, 1043. Studies report, 884. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) BiII,930. Timber Industry - Proposed pulp and paper mill, 1556. Logging practices, 2094. Mlcallef, Mr (Springvale) Victorian Plantations Corporation Bill, 2130. Accident Compensation (WorkCover Insurance) Bill, Vocational Education and Training (College 1377,1895, 1919. Employment) Bill, 783. Address-in-Reply,209. Water - Hamilton Water Board, 38. Pensioner Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 952. concessions, q 1784. Rural services committees, 1833. Appropriation (Parliament 1992-93) Bill, 1551. Women's Affairs - Family planning services, 751. Asbestos - Safety regulations, q 1786. Offensive advertising, 2280. Australasia Marketing Investments - Private insurance cover scheme, 1772. Business and Employment, Department of - Private Maush~ Mr (Rodney) insurance cover scheme, 1772. Address-in-Reply, 335. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, 96. Agriculture, Department of - Funding of research institutes, 1931. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) BiII,1419. Appropriation (1992-93) BiII,948. Club Keno Bill, 2274. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 335. Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1888. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, 98. Immunisation program, 1771. Economy, The -Government policies, 211. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Electoral- Federal election, 209, 210, 212. BiII,I399. Electorates - Dromana, 209; Springvale, 210. Dairy Industry - Funding of research institutes, 1931. Employment - Participation rate, 2186. Economy, The - Government policies, 336. Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1456, Education - Budget, 337. 1462,1471. Electorates - Rodney, 338. Government, The - Legislative program, 209, 211,212. Policies: economic, 211; industrial relations, 211; Fishing Industry - Recreational use of health, 212. Waranga-Mallee water channel, 2348. Health - Government policies, 212. Fuel-Prices, 338. Hospitals - Dandenong and District, 212. Kingston Government, The - Economic policies, 336. day, 213. Health - HIB vaccine, 1771. Industrial Relations -Government policies, 211. Heinz, H. J., CO. Australia Ltd - Dandenong factory, Industry Services - Occupational Health and Safety 124. Act, q 1645. Asbestos safety regulations, q 1786. Hospitals -Case-mix funding, 2165. &huca District, Liberal Party - Philosophy, 209. 2165. Meat Industry Bill, 1273. Industrial Relations - Reforms, 337. Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Bill (No. 2), 427. Institute for Sustainable Agriculture - Kyabram campus, 1931. Occupational Health and Safety Act - Provisions, q 1645. Kyabram Animal and Irrigated Pastures Research Institute - Funding, 1931. Parliament - Business of the House: postponement, 616. Kyabram Farming Services, 178. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Mutual Recognition (Victoria) Bill (No. 2),425. Salary) Bill, 447. Parliament - Business of the House: postponement, Petitions - State deficit levy, 133, 262. 616. Points of Order - Adjournment debate: Petitions -Increase of minimum sentences, 569. appropriateness of matter raised, 563. Reintroduction of capital punishment, 569. Former Unparliamentary expressions, 564. Remarks: Department of Planning and Housing, Bendigo, 836. offensive, 893, 1081,2042; relevance, 1651, 1991; Institute of Educational Administration, 1501. veracity, 1652. Questions without notice: answers Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 948. 1498. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (35)

Public Service - Private insurance cover scheme, 1772. Napthine, Dr (Portland) Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Aboriginal Affairs - Criminal justice system, 1127. Bill, 586, 719. Address by Minister for Finance, 672. Superannuation (Compliance) Bill, 2298. Agriculture - Horticultural research, 1073. Pasture Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 952. production, 1073. Supply (Parliament 1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1551. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1482. Vocational Education and Training (College Barley Marketing Bill, 710. Employment) Bill, 799. Commonwealth-State Relations - Medicare WorkCover - Cessation of benefits, q 1498. agreement, 1859. Conservation and Environment - Fuel reduction burning. 123. Mildenha11, Mr (Footscray) Education - Sunbury Secondary College, 345. Misuse of position by teachers, 345. Casino Control (Amendment) Bill, 1433. Forests (S.E.A.S. Sapfor Ltd Agreement) Bill, 1190. Chemicals - Storage, 346. Health - Family planning services, 749. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1177. Medicare - Agreement, 1859. Club Keno Bill, 2273, 2278. Parliament - Business of the House: postponement, Debits Tax (Amendment) Bill, 1043. 616. Disability Services - Funding, 1074. Petitions - School bus service - Heywood and Education - Tottenham Language Centre, 475. School surrounds, 733. Human life experimentation, 836. sports, 727,1241. Plant Research Institute - Review, 1073. Environment Protection Authority - Proposed office Points of Order - Tedious repetition, 136. Scope of in western suburbs, 971. debate, 718, 1486. Questions without notice: Fair Trading - Footscray regional office, 827, 884. answers, 1366. Offensive remarks, 1696. Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1452, Public Service - Superannuation, 672. 1460,1461. SEAS Sapfor Ltd, 252. Grievances, 1241. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 1319. Industry Services - Coode Island chemical storage, Superannuation - Address by Minister for Finance, 346. 672. Local Government (General Amendment) Bill, 2026. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1482. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Timber Industry - Softwood saw milling in Salary) Bill, 468. south-western Victoria, 252. Victorian Plantations Petitions - Public rent increase, 975. Corporation, 726. Planning - Metropolitan area improvement plan, 252. Victorian Plantations Corporation Bill, 1585. Police - Sunshine station, 182. Women's Affairs - Family planning services, 749. Public Transport - Yarraville railway level crossing, 2fYJ7. Tottenham railway yards, 2168. Voluntary departure packages, 2348. Staffing of corporation, Pandazopoulos, Mr (Dandenong) 2348. Racing (Amendment) Bill,2214,2239,2330. Accident Compensation (WorkCover Insurance) Bill, 1920. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Bill, 545, 714, 715. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 959. Sport, Recreation and Racing - Transfer of funds for Australian Home Insulation Pty Ltd, 1219. disabled, 1074. School sports, 1241. Achievements of Chemicals - Proposed Hampton Park warehouse, 38. Victorians, 1241. Aquatic centre at Victoria University of Technology, 2038. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1171. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 1320. Drugs - Police raids, 1773. Victoria Racing Club (Amendment) Bill, The, 2337. Education -So~th-Eastern Corridor Education Task Force, 249. School Safe program, 403. Schools of the Victorian Secondary School Sports Association, 1241. Future program, 2096. Yarraville - Shopping centre, 2097. Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill, 1820. Home Energy Advisory Service - Funding. 972, 1219. Hospitals - Dandenong and District, 2168. Melbourne Home Insulation, Keysborough, 972. (36) INDEX

Murray-Darling Basin Bill, 1302. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 314. Neighbourhood Houses, 1932. Crimes (Criminal Trials) Bill, 2150. Petitions -State deficit levy, 2289. Doveton Cluster Education - Donvale Primary School, 312. Services, Welfare Service, 2290. 313. Planning - Hampton Park chemical warehouse, 38. Electoral- Federal election, 312. Police - Drug raids, 1113. Electorates - Doncaster, 312. Public Transport - Independent airport bus Employment - Public Service packages, 288. operations, 1832. Leongatha rail service, 2282. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 2268. Senior Citizens -Concessions, 1832. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1636. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 1317. Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill, 1616. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 959. Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 1741, 2242. Government, The - Standards, 315. Interpretation of Legislation (Amendment) Bill, 760. Paterson, Mr (South Barwon) Land (Crown Grants and Reserves) Bill, 762, 767, 768. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1174. Liberal Party - Philosophy, 312. Economy, The - Reform, q 592. Parliament - Availability of reports, 1941. Geelong and District Water Board - Black Rock Points of Order-Scope of debate, 1739, 1742, 1751, treatment plant, q 1966. 2248. Offensive remarks, 1740, 1970,2246. Good Morning AmeriCll Program, q 1588. Reflections on former member, 2252. Misleading of House, 2252. Petitions - Emergency teachers at Victorian State primary schools, 733. Public Service - Employment packages, 288. Port of Geelong Authority - Audit, 1125. Pyramid Group, 314. Tourism - Good Morning AmeriCll program, q 1588. Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Alert Digest: No. 1,21; No. 2, 202; No. 3,418; No. 4, 635; Unemployment -Statistics, q 861. No. 5,898; No. 6, 1144; No. 7, 1787; No. 8, 1940,2110, 2112; availability, 1941; No. 9, 2205. Reports: Statutory Rules Series 1991, 106; first cumulative, 418; Port of Melbourne Authority Regulations, 482; Perrln, Mr (Bulleen) on commencement by proclamation, 898; Local Government (Reporting and Accounting) Accident Compensation (WorkCover Insurance) Bill, Regulations 1992, 1787. 1902. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1945, 1961, 1968. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, SO. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 927. Deaths - Hon. Sir George Reid, QC, 6. Tertiary Education Bill, 1679, 1680. Economy, The - Wages accord, q 74. Government Vocational Education and Training (College policies, 2194. Employment) BilI,809. Education - Doncaster Park Primary School, 560. Emergency teachers, 560. Employment - Participation rate, 2184. Pescott, Mr (Mitcham) (Minister for Industry Services)

Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1637. Accident Compensation (WorkCover Insurance) Bill, Government, The - Economic policies, 2194. 1258, 1372, 1311. Hospitals - Box Hill, 22SO. Agriculture - Occupational health and safety program for farmers, 1221. Petitions - Sexual abuse of children, 18. Points of Order - Relevancy of remarks, 1907. Asbestos - Safety regulations, q 1786. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1985. Chemicals - Storage, 349. Water - Proposed widening of Ruffey Creek, Industry Services - Coode Island chemical storage, 349. Occupational health and safety funding for Templestowe, 251. farmers, 1221. Occupational Health and Safety Act, q 1645. Asbestos safety regulations, q 1786. Kyabram Farming Services, 184. Occupational Health and Safety Act - Provisions, Perton, Mr (Doncaster) q 1645. Address-in-Reply,312. Points of Order - Reading of speeches, 1068. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 927. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (37)

Victorian Fanners Federation -Occupational health Building and Construction Industry - Electricity and safety program, 1221. supplies to urban subdivisions, 1770. WorkCover -Cessation of benefits, q 1498. Children - Drownings, 2282. Conservation and Environment - Conservation and productivity, 32. Peulich, Mrs (Bentleigh) Corrections - Offences of Correctional Services Division employee, q 862. Address-in-Reply, 154. Economy, The - Investment in Victoria, 30. Board of Studies Bill, 1524. Decentralisation of industry, 32. Education -Confidence in State system, 156. Education - Tertiary education in Wodonga, 33. Negotiations with teacher unions, q 1365. Role of Electorates - Benambra, 31. principals, q 2073. Fair Trading - Safety of household nappy buckets, Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2060. 2282. Electorates - Bentleigh, 154. Health - National summit, q 1256. Employment - In Moorabbin, 155. Hospitals - In Beechworth, 1324. Industrial Relations - Negotiations, q 374. Law Courts - Melbourne Magistrates Court complex, Liberal Party - Philosophy, 154. q 2313. Moorabbin - Employment opportunities, 155. Meat Industry Bill, 1272. Petitions - Prostitution Regulation Act 1986,261. Petitions - Funding for Myrtleford Primary School, 2109. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1980. State Electricity Commission - Electricity supplies to Unemployment - Youth, 155. urban subdivisions, 1770. Vocational Education and Training (College Tourism - Regional tourist precincts, 2039. Employment) Bill, 785. Wool Industry - Federal assistance, q 1589. Women's Affairs -Government policies, 156. Wool Industry - Federal assistance, q 1253. Youth Affairs - Unemployment, 155. Plowman, Mr S. J. (Evelyn) (Minister for Energy and Minerals, and Minister ASSisting the Treasurer on State Owned Enterprises) Phlllips, Mr (Eltham) Australian Home Insulation Pty Ltd, 1223. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, Building and Construction Industry - Electricity q 1780. supplies to urban subdivisions, 1774. Chiropractors and Osteopaths Registration Board - Energy and Minerals - Registrar, 1932. Department - Restructure, q 1003. Commonwealth Grants Commission - Grant Energy - Toora wind farm, 476, 566. Gas prices, relativities, q 627. q 754. Home Energy Advisory Service, 1223. Education - Merger between Banyule and Rosanna Concession, q 1748. Briquettes, q 2074. East high schools, q 1870. Eltham - Disused aqueduct, 1557. Gas and Fuel Corporation - Gas prices, q 754. Petitions - Watsonia North Primary School, 975. Home Energy AdviSOry Service - Funding, 1223. Energy concessions, q 1748. Planning - Inner-city residential development, q 895. Dual occupancy in Eltham, 1325. Mining Industry - Goldmining in Bendigo, q 1138. Quarry in Keilor, 1223. Public Transport - MetTicket, q 1780. Ministry, The - Minister for Energy and Minerals: Republic Advisory Committee - Nominations for office accommodation, q 1003. membership, q 1362. Senior Citizens - Energy concessions, q 1748. Water - Disused aqueduct in Eltham, 1557. Electricity reconnection services, 2046. State Electricity Commission of Victoria - Charges: for country areas, 43; increases, 1774. Staffing at Fishermen's Bend, q 1003. Corporatisation, 1079, Plowman, Mr A. F.(Benambra) 1336, 1348. Electricity supplies to urban subdivisions, 1774. Electricity reconnection services, Address-in-Reply, 30. 2046. Morwell briquette factory, q 2074. Voluntary departure packages, 2099. Agriculture - Vaccination against liver fluke, 401. Animals - Liver fluke in sheep and cattle, 401. (38) INDEX

Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Reynolds, Mr (Gisborne) (Minister for Sport, 59. Recreation and Racing) Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Casinos - Impact on racing revenue, q 1782. BiII,1419. Maccabiah Games, 730. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1214, 1215. Personal Explanations - Statement in debate, 2087. Club Keno Bill, 2269, 2276. Public Transport - Werribee railway service, 130. Community Services - Welfare funding, q 2103. Public Transport Corporation - Voluntary departure Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1890. packages, 130. Docklands Authority (Amendment) Bill, 1798. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 1258, 1360, 2230, 2234, 2235, Education - T AFE funding, 849. School sports, 1127. 2328, 2330, 2332. Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill, 1368. Sport, Recreation and Racing - Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 2257, 2268. General- Maccabiah Games, 730. Aquatic centre at Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 2243. Victoria University of Technology, 2043, 2087. Racing - Impact on revenue of Melbourne casino, Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1445, q 1782. 1459, 1460, 1461, 1464. Grievances, 504. Totalizator Agency Board - Deloitte Ross Tohmatsu Health - report, q 14. Drugs - Funding of agencies, 1221. Victoria Racing Club (Amendment) BiII, The, 1859, 2009,2010,2338. General-Services: family planning, 123,733,740; maternity in Essendon, 342,1934; privatisation, q 1499. Medicare agreement, 849, q 1499, 1863. Community health centres, 852. Richardson, Mr (Forest Hill) Nursing - Employment contracts, 178. Professional standards, 881. Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2076. Members - Naming and suspension of Mr Micallef, Health and Community Services, Department of - 1107, 1111. Conduct, 1111. Annual reports, 729, 853. Restructure, 850. Budget, Parliament - Questions without notice: interruption of q 2103. proceedings, 1107; answers, 1118. Health and Community Services (General Points of Order - Questions without notice: scope, Amendment) Bill, 2159, 2163. 193. Offensive remarks, 1119, 1330. References to Hospitals - Funding, 178. Essendon campus, Royal Public Gallery, 1949. Melbourne, 342,1934. Case-mix funding, 558, 850, Road Safety - Motorcycles, 2205. q 1142, q 1366. Annual reports, 729, 853. Medicare agreement, 849. Waiting lists, 851. Closures, 852, Road Safety Committee - Reports: motorcycle safety, q 866, q 1142. Austin, 970. Alfred, 1073. Mayday 2205. Hills Training Centre, q 1257. Psychiatric services at Maroondah, 1326. Box Hill, q 1366. Joint Printing Committee - Establishment, 1829. Roper, Mr (Coburg) Land (Miscellaneous Matters) Bill, 1805. Accident Compensation (WorkCover Insurance) Bill, Land Tax (Amendment) Bill, 682. 1918. Medicare - Agreement, 849, q 1499, 1863. Address by Minister for Finance, 658, 669. Melbourne Casino, q 1782, q 1870. Address-in-Reply, 849. Members - Naming and suspension: of Hon. B. E. Alcohol - Funding of dependency services, 1221, 1830. Davidson, MLC, 738; of member for Springvale, 1107,1120. Ambulance Services - Metropolitan: funding, 852; appointment of executive officer, 2095. Parliament - Business of the House: programming of Grievance days, 133, 137; postponement, 395, 613, Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 837, 1473. 1620,2093,2345; withdrawal of notices of motion, Appropriation (Parliament 1992-93) Bill, 837, 1545, 1553. 835; hours of sitting, 1377; programming, 1501; reform, 1502; Strategic Management Review of the Ballarat Regional Alcohol and Drug Dependence Parliament of Victoria, 1502, 1503. Questions without Association, 1221, 1830. notice: interruption of proceedings, 1107. Business Franchise (Petroleum Products) Availability of reports, 1941, 1953,2047,2110. (Amendment) Bill, 1593, 1910. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Casino Control (Amendment) Bill, 1422, 1440, 1442, Salary) Bill, 452. 1444. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (39)

Petitions - Funding for family planning services, 1335, Law Courts - Melbourne Magistrates Court complex, 1939. q893. Points of Order - Answers to questions without Personal Explanations - Interjection in debate, 2137. notice, 12, 15, 70, 71, 74,160, 194,409,508,596,866, Planning - Historic buildings, q 2107. 890,1366,1494,1868,1967. Tabling of reports, 107. Scope of debate, 137,660, 1309, 1467. Adjournment Points of Order - Scope of debate, 1694. matter to be addressed to Minister at table, 342. Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1705. Documents: tabling, 344; quoted, 615, 1328,2353, 2354. Calling of quorums, 494. Rule of anticipation, Public Transport Corporation - Auditor-General's 596. Order of call, 617. Motions: admissibility, 734, report, q 1866. 1564; wording of circulated, 739. Address by Youth Affairs - Juvenile offenders, 1711. Minister, 735. Members: naming and suspension of member of Legislative Council, 738; reflections on, 2112; imputations against, 2244. Offensive remarks, 1330. Debating of question, 2102. Bills should not Ryan, Mr (Gippsland South) proceed, 2117. Hours of sitting, 2257. Public Service -Superannuation, 658, 669. Accident Compensation (WorkCover Insurance) Bill, 1909,1924. Public Transport - Upfield rail service, 2351. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 1241. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2207, 2233, 2235, 2236, 2238, 2329,2331,2332. Casino Control (Amendment) Bill, 1427. Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Alert Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Digest: availability of reports, 1941, 1953,2047,2110. 104. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1944. City of Greater Geelong Bill-Community consultations, 1239. Sport, Recreation and Racing - Impact of Melbourne casino on revenue, q 1782, q 1870. Corrections - Sale Prison, 1218. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) BiB, 1308. Crimes (Criminal Trials) Bill, 2146. Subdivision (Amendment) Bill, 1506. Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1879. Superannuation - Address by Minister for Finance, Dairy Industry - Development initiatives, 623. 658,669. Debits Tax (Amendment) Bill, 1039. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 837,1473. Employment - Public Service packages, 280. Supply (Parliament 1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 837,1545,1553. Energy - Toora wind farm project, 472. Tattersall Consultations (Reporting) Bill, 2332. Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill, 1605. Treasury Corporation of Victoria (Debt Centralisation) Food Development Authority, 623. Bill,1148. Grievances, 1239. Victoria Racing Club (Amendment) Bill, The, 2010, 2333. Health -Status report, q 1783. Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, 1853. Latrobe Region Water AuthOrity, 559, 1239. Victorian Health Promotion Foundation - Funding, Law Courts - Supreme Court waiting lists, q 1591. 504. Law Reform Commission - Vic Statutes Project, q 630. Victorian Secondary School Sports Association, 1127. Petitions - Maffra Primary School, 897. Vocational Education and Training (College Prostitution Regulation Act, q 289. Employment) Bill, 804. Public Service - Employment packages, 280. Women's Affairs -Services: family planning, 123, 733, Sale, City of - Water responsibilities, 559, 1239. 740; maternity in Essendon, 342,1934. South Gippsland Water Board - Waste discharge, 1074. Vic Statutes project, q 630. Rowe, Mr (Cranbourne) Water - Latrobe Region Water Authority, 559. Board of Studies Bill, 1541. Responsibilities of City of Sale, 559, 1239. Discharges to coastal waters, 1074. Budget - Autumn economic statement, q 411. Corrections - Juvenile offender program, 1711. Corrections (Management) Bill, 860, 867. Education - Emergency teachers, q 1136. Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill, 1820. Historic Buildings - Planning controls, q 2107. (40) INDEX

Sandon, Mr (Carrum) Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Bill, 1417. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1060. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1198. Association of Post-Primary Institutions, 1487. Community Services - Programs in Keilor Downs, 475. Board of Studies Bill, 1509, 1510, 1541. OS &: C Developments Pty Lld - Unfulfilled contracts, Budget -Cuts, 491. 1327. Caravan Parks and Movable Dwellings (Amendment) Education - Facilities in Keilor, 219. Work experience, Bill, 1761. 346, 402. Taylors Lakes Secondary College, 1626. Education- Education Acts (Teachers) BilI,2068. Deptlrtmtnt - Budget, q 376, 491. Directorate of Electorates - Keilor, 218. School Education, q 629, q 630, q 634, q 863. Voluntary departure packages, q 1004. Employment - Funding of Western Region Commission, 1490. GtntTtll-School closures, 127, 253, q 415, q 754, q 755, q 865, 1126, q 1135, q 1139. Government Ethnic Affairs -Services in Keilor, 219. policies, 491. School cleaning contracts, 492. Health - Maternal and Child Health Service, 972. Zoning of school properties, 971. School grounds maintenance, q 1254. Superannuation Housing - Unfulfilled contracts of OS &: C contributions, 1487, q 1497, q 1642. Assistance for Developments Pty Lld, 1327. deaf students, 1623. Keilor City Council - Service road, 2CYJ7. School EduCJltion - Reorganisation of schools, 40. Kryza Cabinets, 1327. Redbank Primary School, q 291, q 292. Bairnsdale Primary School, q 377. Lakes Entrance Primary Melbourne Water - Use of Brimbank Park by School, 399. Oberon High School, 559. Barwon community organisations, 2039. Valley School, q 1254. Kennington Primary School, Mining Industry -Quarry in Keilor, 1219. 1623. Knox Gardens Primary School, q 2313. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic TtIlchtrs - Emergency, q 291, q 292, q 377, 399, 492, Salary) Bill, 465. q 628, q 1140, q 2313. Staffing, q 755. Points of Order - Scope of debate, 1742. Offensive remarks, 2CYJ5. Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2053. Poverty Action Program, 220. Government, The - Policies: education, 491. Public Transport - St Albans rail easement, 830. Grievances, 491. Services in Keilor, 1558. Institute of Educational Administration (Repeal) Bill, Roads Corporation - Melrose Drive, Tullamarine, 1719,1736. 2CYJ7. Ministry, The - Remarks of former Minister for Police Western Region Commission - Funding, 1490. and Emergency Services, 1143. Western Region Tenancy Support Service - Funding, Personal Explanations -Statements of Mr Leigh, 1143. 2CYJ7. Petitions - Institute of Educational Administration, 1079. Planning - Zoning of school properties, 971. Sercombe, Mr (Niddrie) Points of Order -Questions without notice: answers 292,404,415,863, 1139. Repetition of issue raised, Address by Minister for Finance, 673. 1486. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 955. Police - Station for Carrum, 1143. Corrections - Prisons: security, q 10, q 12, q 14, q 15; Public Service - Voluntary departure packages, administration, 109, q 2075; drugs, 112; reform, 112; q 1004. Superannuation, 1487, q 1497, q 1642. Fairlea, 1559. State Employees Retirement Benefits Board, 1487. Corrections (Management) Bill, 810, 1008, 1018, 1021. Superannuation -State schemes, 1487, q 1497, q 1642. Emergency Services Superannuation Scheme, q 756. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1060. Emergency Services Superannuation (Special Payments) Bill, 2301. Fire Services - Funding, 500. Charges for attendance of fire units, 501. Seia, Mr (Keilor) Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1466. Address-in-Reply,218. Grievances, 500. Attorney-General - Appointment of justices of the Italy - Political system, q 1000. peace, 883. Law Courts - Criminal justice system, 36, 109. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, 84. Members - Naming and suspension of Mr Micallef, llCYJ. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (41)

Ministry, The - Premier: comments on Italian political Parliament - Questions without notice: interruption of system, q 1000. proceedings, 1108. Parliament - Questions without notice: interruption of Petitions - School crossing supervisors - City of proceedings, 1109. Waverley, 261. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Points of Order - Quoted documents, 497. Salary) Bill,462. Imputations against members, 500. Offensive Petitions - Evidence from ethnic persons, 1939. remarks, 1692, 1992. Rule of sub judice,2279. Essendon and District Memorial Hospital, 2175. Police - Minister's visit to country Victoria, q 16. Points of Order - Imputations against members, 500. Public safety, 1626. Offensive remarks, 1110, 1576, 1695, 1965. Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1691. Unparliamentary expressions, 1741. Questions Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1989. without notice: answers, 2075. Sheep Owners Protection (Repeal) Bill, 570. Police - Morale, 37, 109. Employment contracts, 341. United Firefighters Union - Activities, 472. Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1685, 1686. Violence - Public safety, 1626. Public Service - Superannuation, 673. Rulings and Statements as Acting Chairman - Republic Advisory Committee - Membership, 1578. Debate - Pecuniary interests of members, 1215. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1947, 1959. Sheep Owners Protection (Repeal) Bill, 569. Rulings and Statements as Acting Speaker - Superannuation - Address by Minister for Finance, Debate -Scope, 1789. Interjections, 2035. Misleading 673. Emergency services scheme, q 756. of House, 2252. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill,955. United Firefighters Union - Activities, 500. Smith, Mr I. W. (Polwarth) (Minister for Finance)

Address by Minister for Finance, 668, 737. Sheeh,",* Mr (Northcote) Audit (Tender Board) Bill, 976. Australian Labor Party - Membership activities of Ms Australian Labor Party - Record in government, Mary Crooks, 2038. q 1868, q 2103. Crooks, Ms Mary - Comments on report of Victorian Education - Tungamah Primary School, 1630. Commission of Audit, 2038. Emergency Services Superannuation (Special Points of Order - Questions without notice: answers, Payments) Bill, 2302. 596. Offensive remarks, 1230. Government Departments and Instrumentalities - Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, 1856,2038. Tendering processes, q 2103. Comments of Ms Mary Crooks, 2038. Government Employee Housing Authority - Review of properties, 1630. Government, The - Preparation of legislation by Smith, Mr E. R. (Glen Waverley) private firms, q 1496. Car fleet, q 1868.

Ambulance Services - Mobile intensive care units, Land (Amendment) Bill, 758, 848. 1934. Points of Order - Unparliamentary expressions, 1869. Australian Teachers Union - Policies, 37. Public Service - Superannuation, q 595, 668, 737, Board of Studies Bill, 1535. q 890, q 1136, q 1496, q 1643, q 1783. Voluntary departure packages, q 890. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, 105. Residential Tenancies (Water and Utilities Charges) Bill, 1305, 1352. Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Bill,1404. Superannuation - Unfunded liability, q 595, q 1643. Address by Minister for Finance, 668, 737. State Corrections (Management) Bill, 817. schemes, q 890, q 1136, q 1496, q 1643, q 1783. Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1889. Superannuation (Compliance) Bill, 1940,2049,2300, Education - Literacy standards, 253. 2301. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1638. Victorian Commission of Audit - Unfunded superannuation liability, q 1643. Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill, 1615. Vistel Ltd - Report for 1991-92,417. Fire Services - Funding, 472. Members - Naming and suspension Mr Micallef, 1108. (42) INDEX

Speaker, The (Hon. J. E. Delzoppo) Parliament - Address by Minister for Finance, 737, 739. Business of the House - Tabling of reports, 108. Withdrawal of notice of motion, 835. Adjournment Debate - Matters raised: admissibility, General- Distinguished visitors, 160, 289, 1135, 41; to be addressed to Minister at table, 342; 1253,1361,1581,1865,2289,2310. Photographing responses, 404, 885; appropriateness, 563, 620; of proceedings, 1101. Availability of reports, 1941, jurisdiction,568; repetition, 1486; only one, 1712; 1953,2048,2053,2109. must relate to State Ministries, 1835; previously, 2097; must relate to government administration, Joint Sittings - Senate vacancy, 1047, 1305. Victorian 2347; similarity, 2350. Interjections, 124,2285,2349. Institute of Marine Sciences, Swinburne Unparliamentary expressions, 564, 1716. Rule of University of Technology, Victoria University of anticipation, 886. Remarks: veracity, 1132; offensive, Technology, Deakin University, La Trobe 1330, 1771, 2042, 2095. Reference to debate of same University and Victorian Health Promotion session, 1325. Quoted documents, 1328, 2353, Foundation, 1047, 1305. 2354. Scope, 1486. Attendance of Ministers, 1489, Questions without Notice -Interjections, 10, 17,71,73, 2351. Members: imputations against, 2038; to 892,1102,1103,1643,1967,2073,2074,2108. address Chair, 2285, 2348. Rule of sub judice, 2279. Answers, 12, 13, 16,11,10,11,14,160, 164, 196, Point of order not to be debated, 2347. 292,409,414,415,416,508,510,593,596,633,864, 866,890,1120,1139,1366,1495,1498,1746,1750, Auditor-General- Reports: salinity, 106; Special 1868,1967,2073,2076,2102. Admissibility, 163, No. 20 on National Tennis Centre Trust and 634,1102,1136. Not to seek opinions, 193. Not to Zoological Board of Victoria, 569; visiting medical be hypothetical, 193. Standing Orders, 289. officer arrangements, 1336; Ministerial portfolios, Behaviour of members, 292. Offensive remarks, 1841; information technology in the public sector, 512,893,1965. Anticipation of debate, 596. Sub 2175; open-cut production in Latrobe Valley, 2291; judice rule, 863. Interruption of proceedings, 1110. Loy Yang B Act compliance, 2291. Special No. 22 on Not to be debated, 1138, 1141. Guidelines, 1750. timber industry strategy, 2114. Unparliamentary expressions, 1869. Interpretation BLF Custodian - Reports: Nos 21 and 22,21. of interjection, 2108. Deaths - Hon. Sir Murray Porter, 3. Hon. Sir George Reid, QC, 9. Hon. J. H. Smith, 888. Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Alert Digest: availability of reports, 1941, 1953, 2048, 2053, Debate -Interjections, 13,53,110, 1408, 1889, 1911, 2109; closure motion, 2113, 2114. 1941,1946,1954,2033,2048. Remarks: offensive; 72, 166,571,1081,1110,1112,1119,1202,1576,1755, WorkCover - WorkCare reports: Accident 1912,2246; relevance, 255, 1119, 1202, 1639, 1652, Compensation Commission; Medical Panels; 1655, 1889,2066; unparliamentary, 288, 328, 924, Victorian Accident Rehabilitation Council; 1507, 1593, 2242,2244; veracity, 1652, 1890, 1943. WorkCare Appeals Board, 21. Victorian WorkCover Tedious repetition, 136. Scope, 137,615, 1438, 1467, Authority reports, 21, 482, 2049. 1549,1751,1756,1757,1913,2110,2111,2114,2241, Zoological Board of Victoria - Auditor-General's 2248. Statements, 166. Documents: quoted, 496, 497, report, 569. 498; tabling, 1653, 1656. Motions: closure, 616; admissibility, 659, 734, 740, 1567; urgency, 735; wording of circulated, 739, 740. Sexist language, 617. Order of call, 617. Procedure for putting question, Spry, Mr (Bellarine) 679. Use of correct titles, 814, 1470. Pecuniary interests, 924. Reading of speeches, 1068, 1070. Address-in-Reply,339. Televising of proceedings, 1471, 1472. Reflections on former statutory heads, 1651. Members: conduct, Alcoa of Australia Ltd, 341. 1699; reflections on, 1752,2113; to address Chair, Animals - Dangerous dogs, 727. 2033; accusations against, 2246. Admissibility of Australian Chamber of Manufactures - Survey, q 1964. reasoned amendment, 1917. Bill procedure under section 62 of the Constitution Act, 2117. Reflections City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1158. on Chair, 2274. Economy, The - Debt management, 339. Division Lists -Correction, 18, 1719. Education - Industrial action by teachers, 340. Governor, The - Address-in-Reply, 1633. Language studies, 340. Health - Auditor-General's report on visiting medical Education Acts (Teachers) Bill, 2063. officer arrangements, 1336. Fair Trading - Refurbishment of office of former Legal Profession Practice (Guarantee Fund) Bill­ Minister for Consumer Affairs, q 1004. Procedure, 2156. Institute of Educational Administration (Repeal) Bill. Members - Naming and suspension: of Hon. B. E. 1721. Davidson, MLC, 738; of Mr Micallef, 1104, lIlO, Petitions - Institute of Educational Administration, 1113. Conduct, 1113. Service of Mr Roper, 2214. 634,891. National Tennis Centre Trust - Auditor-General's Public Service - Industrial action, q 1587. report, 569. Public Transport - Reforms, q 415. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2224. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (43)

Residential Tenancies (Water and Utilities Charges) Education - Budget, q 290. BilI,2084. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 2267. Water - Saline spill into Barwon River, 1557. Lough Ethnic Affairs - Interpreting services, 1129. Calvert drainage scheme, 1557. Financial Institutions Duty (Amendment) Bill, 419, 513, 1049. Freedom of Information - Fightback package analysis, Steggall, Mr (Swan Hill) q 161. Address-in-Reply,351. Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1466. Agriculture - Production in primary industries, 354. Government Departments and Instrumentalities- Tendering processes, q 2104, 2172. Budget - Deficit, 353. Grey Sisters - Funding, q 893. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1191. Grievances, 506, 1230. Commonwealth-State Relations, 353. Health - Privatisation of services, q 1499. Economy, The - Benefit of Premier's overseas mission, q11. Industrial Relations - Reform, 366. Egg Industry (Deregulation) Bill, 1822. Institute of Public Affairs - Schooling Victorians booklet, q 1967, 2042. Electorates - Swan Hill, 352. Land Tax (Amendment) Bill - 513,848. Government, The - Role, 352. Law Courts - Melbourne Magistrates Court complex, Hospitals -Correspondence of Mr Roper, 1832. q 2313. Local Government (General Amendment) Bill, 2022. Local Government - Pensioner concessions, 831. Medicare - Agreement, 358. Loy Yang B (Amendment) Bill, 2194, 2343. Melbourne Water - Debt, q 410. Medicare - Agreement, q 1499. Members - Correspondence of Mr Roper on hospital Melbourne Casino, q 1780, q 1785, q 2201. services, 1832. Ministry, The - Minister for Health: office Murray-Darling Basin Bill, 1293. accommodation, q 893. Petitions - State deficit levy, 20. Kerang dental clinic, Parliament - Questions without notice: answers, 1115. 2047. Pay-roll Tax (Amendment) Bill, 758, 845, 1124. Personal Explanations, 809.

Stockdale, Mr (Brighton) (Treasurer) Petroleum Products - Petrol levy, q 1493, q 1494. Points of Order - Questions without notice: answers, Address-in-Reply, 362. 416. Interjections, 937. Offensive remarks, 1230, Agriculture, Department of - Budget, 2041. 1231, 1684, 2042. Admissibility of amendment motion, 1620. Imputations against members, 2038. Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 635, 809, 837. Road Safety - Black spot intersections, 1077. Appropriation (Parliament 1992-93) Bill, 656, 837, 1547. Roads Corporation - Domain tunnel and Western Australian Labor Party - Record in government, bypass projects, q 1493, q 1494, q 1782, q 2071. q 628, q 1748, q 2104, 2172, q 2313. Membership Western Ring-road, q 1869. activities of Ms Mary Crooks, q 1967, 2042. Senior Citizens - Concessions, 831. Australian Loan Council- Borrowing limits, q 13. Sport, Recreation and Racing - Impact of casino on Budget - Deficit, 363. Expenditure ratio, 365. Treasury revenue, q 1870. Bills program, q 412, q 413, q 416. Borrowings, q 511. Of former government, q 628. Victorian Commission Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1080, 1258, 1596, 1597, 1598, of Audit report, q 1747, 1845. Agricultural industry, 1599. 2041. State Bank Victoria - Compensation, q 378. Employee Business Franchise (Petroleum Products) medical benefits scheme, 830. (Amendment) Bill, 1501, 1592. State Deficit Levy (Amendment) Bill, 757, 843. Club Keno Bill, 1586, 1683,2272. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 656, 837. Commonwealth-State Relations, q 1499. Supply (Parliament 1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 657,837,1547. Crooks, Ms Mary -Comments on report of Victorian Tattersall Consultations (Reporting) Bill, 1586, 1683. Commission of Audit, q 1967,2042. Taxation - Debits Tax (Amendment) Bill, 419, 513, 1046. Petrol Levy - Use, q 1493, q 1494. Economy, The - Fightback package, q 73, q 161. In State Deficit Levy - Relief, 255. Application: to Asia-Pacific region, 366. Debt management, q 511, Golden Beach estate, 479; to Yallambie elderly q 1747, q 1748, 1845. persons village, 1561. (44) INDEX

Treasury Corporation of Victoria (Debt Centralisation) Chiropractors and Osteopaths Registration Board - Bill, 757,844, 1150. Registrar, 1936. Victorian Commission of Audit - Chairman, q 861, Community Services - Welfare funding, q 2103. q 862, q 864, q 1138, 1230. Terms of reference, q 1589. Economy, The - Debt management, 360. Report, q 1747, q 1748, 1845, q 1967,2042. Comments of Ms Mary Crooks, q 1967,2042. Electorates - Seymour, 358. Victorian Development Fund, 506, q SOS. Health- Diseases - Tuberculosis, q 1643. Meningitis, 1775. Drugs - Funding of alcohol and drug agencies, 1224. Services in Ballarat, 1836. Tanner, Mr (Caulfield) General-Cancer screening for women, 183. Address by Minister for Finance, 677. Medicare agreement, q 293, 361. Services: matemity in Essendon, 347,1937; provision, 360; Address-in-Reply, 391. family planning, 408, 744. Non-govemment health Australian Labor Party - Record in govemment, 391. organisations, q 1256. National summit, q 1256, q 1419. United Kingdom Secretary of State for Burglar Alarms - Regulation of noise emission, 1623. Health, q 1257. Auditor-General's report on Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) visiting medical officer arrangements, q 1364. HIB Bill,1414. vaccine, 1775. Status report, q 1783. Chiropractors Economy, The - Debt management, 393. and Osteopaths Registration Board, 1936. Welfare funding, q 2103. Education - University places, 394. Nursing - Employment contracts, 184. Environment Protection Authority - Burglar alarm emissions, 1623. Health and Community Services, Department of - Hospitals - Caulfield General Medical Centre, 394. Comments of secretary, q 1256, q 1365. Budget, q 2102. Maccabiah Games, 728. Health and Community Services (General Melboume Water -Sewer collapse in Elstemwick, Amendment) Bill, 1909,2010,2161,2163. 2281. Health Computing Services Victoria Lld - Report for Petitions - Melboume-Warmambool passenger train 1991-92,1633. service, 133. Alfred, Royal Southem Memorial and Caulfield hospitals, 351. Caulfield General Medical Hospitals - Proposed Epping, 43, 130. Funding, 184. Centre, 417. Community health funding in West St Kilda Day, 255. Medicare agreement, q 293, 361. Gippsland, 481. Mobile area resource centre, 481. Essendon campus, Royal Melboume, 347, 1937. Pedestrian crossing in Grange Road, Glenhuntly, Case-mix funding, q 319, 563, q 1142, q 1366,2170. 481. Tertiary student transport concessions, 975. R. Waiting lists, q 511. Closures, q 866, q 1142. Mayday E. Ross Industrial Centre, 975. Institute of Hills Training Centre, q 1257. In Beechworth, 1329. Educational Administration, 975. Emergency Psychiatric services at Maroondah, 1330. Box Hill, teachers, 1019. q 1366,2286. Correspondence of Mr Roper, 1837. Wangaratta District Base, 1838. Echuca District, Points of Order - Admissibility of question without 2170. Dandenong and District, 2171. Sandringham notice, 163. Unqualified withdrawal of remarks, 500. and District Memorial, 2355. Public Service - Superannuation, 677. Members - Appreciation of services of former: Roads Corporation - Pedestrian crossing for Grange Mr M. J. McDonald, 360. Correspondence of Road, Glenhuntly, 622. member for Coburg on hospital services, 1837. Superannuation - Address by Minister for Finance, Obstetric and Paediatric Mortality and Morbidity, 677. Consultative Council on - Report, 1501. Points of Order - Motions: admissibility, 734; wording of circulated, 740.

Tehan, Mn (Seymour) (Minister for Health) Unemployment - In rural areas, 359. Women's Affairs -Services: matemity in Essendon, Address-in-Reply, 358. 347, 1937; family planning, 408, 744. Alcohol- Funding of dependency services, 1224, 1836. Ambulance Services - Metropolitan, 254. In Goulbum Valley, 1836. Mobile intensive care units, 1936. Thompson, Mr (Sandringham) Auditor-General- Report on visiting medical officer arrangements, q 1364. Address-in-Reply,145. Ballarat Regional Alcohol and Drug Dependence Conservation and Environment - In Sandringham, Association, 1224, 1836. 1774. Budget - Defidt, 360. Disability Services - Moira Inc., 148. Children - Ministerial statement on child protection, Economy, The - National Australia Bank Quarterly 62. Immunisation programs, 1775. Business Survey, q 1137. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (45)

Ed ucation - Moorabbin College of T AFE, 148. Home Energy Advisory Service - Funding, 1239. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1659. Energy concessions, q 1748. Funerals (Pre-Paid Money) Bill, 2005. Industrial Relations - Workplace justice, 118. Land (Amendment) Bill, 1319. Government Departments and Instrumentalities - Tendering processes, q 2101. Land (Crown Grants and Reserves) Bill, 761, 767, 771. Government, The - Principles, 145. Economic policies, Land (Miscellaneous Matters) Bill, 1800. 146. Tender contracts, q 2101. Liberal Party - Election promises, 117. Hospitals - Sandringham and District Memorial, 2350. Local Government - Planning appeal rights, 884. Industrial Relations - Development, 147. Melbourne Water - Relocation of employee, 253. Manufacturing Industry - Transport costs, 148. Members - Naming and suspension of member for Melbourne Water - Black Rock treatment plant, 2040. Springvale, 1110. Conduct, 1110. Moira Inc., 148. Mining Industry - Application of Mineral Resources Development Act, 1220. Planning - Dual occupancy, 1558. Police -Sandringham station, 1487. Ministry, The - Minister for Energy and Minerals: office accommodation, q 1003, 1236. Public Service - Alleged disclosure of information by Ministerial assistant, 1931. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Salary) Bill, 466. Road Safety - Motorcycle safety, q 1749. Petitions -State deficit levy, 897, 976. Essendon and State Bank Victoria -Compensation, q 378. District Memorial Hospital, 2175. State Deficit Levy - Municipal Association of Victoria Planning - Appeal rights, 884. Mining applications, proposal, q 889. 1220. Public Service - Superannuation, 1488. Public Transport - Government policies, 118. Closure Thomson, Mr (Pascoe Vale) of rail services, 118. Senior Citizens Week, 829. Vintlllnder, q 1590. Railway stations: Jacana, 1772; Address-in-Reply, 117. unmanned, 1772; Sunbury, 2167. V I Line freight Appropriation (1992-93) Bill, 1049. costs, q 2314. Victorian Commission of Audit report, 2347. ARFO Unit Trust, 126. Public Transport Corporation - Staffing, q 1964. Lists Australian Labor Party - Public transport policies, of former employees, q 2073. 2347. Roads Corporation - Heavy vehicle curfews, 1831. Broadmeadows Tenant Information Service - Funding, 728. Safety ROPS (Aust.) Pty Ltd, 126, 180. Consumer Advocacy and Advice Service - Funding, Senior Citizens - Senior Citizens Week, 829. Energy 729. concession, q 1748. Crown Land Acts (Amendment) Bill, 2123. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Bill, 552, 720. Economy, The - Fightback package, 120. State Electricity Commission - Charges, 40. Education - Emergency teachers, 118. School closures, Corporatisation, 1336. Voluntary departure 118. packages, 2095. Energy and Minerals, Department of - Restructure, Superannuation -State schemes, 1488. 1236. Supply (1993-94, No. 1) Bill, 1049. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 2263. Swan Hill Pioneer Settlement - Management, 1559. Fair Trading, Office of - Funding of tenancy services, Taxation -Goods and services tax, 117. Increased 728. charges, 117. Finance, Department of - Property leases, 1237. Tourism - Jobs in Tourism publication, q 1590. Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 2247. Unemployment - Rate, 120. Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 1470. Victorian Chamber of Mines, 1220. Government Departments and Instrumentalities - Victorian Commission of Audit - Report, 2347. Property leases, 1237. Victorian Plantations Corporation Bill, 2127, 2137. Government, The - Public transport policies, 118. Conduct of Parliamentary business, 119. Preparation of legislation by private firms, 1488. Granlin Pty Ltd, 180. Grievances, 1236. (46) INDEX

Thwaltes, Mr (Albert Park) Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill, 1614. Audit (Tender Board) Bill, 1767. Gas and Fuel Corporation - Sale of Heatane gas division, q 2071. Casino Control (Amendment) Bill, 1436, 1442. Government, The - Privatisation program, q 2071. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1184. Industry and Employment - Kindergarten Club Keno Bill, 2275. employment contracts, q 1644. Commercial Arbitration (Amendment) Bill, 522. Melbourne Wholesale Fruit and Vegetable Trust - Corrections (Management) Bill, 821, 1012, 1019, 1022. Administration, q 1106. Crimes (Criminal Trials) Bill, 2143. Petitions - Ballarat University College, 1841. Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1881. Police - Services in Ballarat, 240. Employment - Public Service packages, 275. Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1697. Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill, 1607. Public Service - Industrial action, q 629. Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 1752. State Electricity Commission - Privatisation of Loy Yang B, q 2071. Government Departments and Instrumentalities - Tendering processes, 2281, 2350. Timber Industry -Sawmilling in Daylesford, 241. Grievances, 495. Tourism - In Ballarat, 240. Hospitals -St Kilda Day,2Sl. Unemployment - In Ballarat, 239. Land (Miscellaneous Matters) Bill, 1804. Leeds Media and Communication Services, 2281, 2350. Treasure, Mr (Gippsland East) Local Government - Municipal amalgamations, 883. Local Government (General Amendment) Bill, 2032, Address-in-Reply,120. 2088,2089,2091. Agriculture -In East Gippsland, 121. Regional Media - Government activities, 2281, 2350. Veterinary Laboratory at Bairnsdale, 1712. Ministry, The - Premier: wine sales, 495, 620. Australian Labor Party - Record in government, q 2104. Parliament -Availability of reports,2113. Dairy Industry -Investment, q 1784. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (Basic Salary) Bill, 443. Electorates - Gippsland East, 121. Petitions - Industrial and associated legislation, 1335. Fishing Industry - In East Gippsland, 121. Gippsland Lakes fishermen, 1323. Points of Order - Quoted documents, 496, 497. Offensive remarks, 1992. Scope of debate, 2114. Government Departments and Instrumentalities­ Adjournment debate: similarity of matters raised, Tendering processes, q 2104. 2350. Government Employee Housing Authority - Property Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1698. management, q 376. Public Service - Employment packages, 275. Japan - Beef markets, q 865. Residential Tenancies (Water and Utilities Charges) Meat Industry - Grass-fed beef exports, q 865. Bill,2OSS. Petitions - Kilmany Family Care, 106. St Kilda Tenants Union - Funding, 2167. Public Transport - Services in Bairnsdale region, 1622. Scrutiny of Acts and Regulations Committee - Alert Public Transport Corporation - Property Digest: availability of reports, 2113. management, q 376. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1942, 1992. Roads - In East Gippsland, 122. Tenancies - Tenancy advice service, 2167. Timber Industry - In East Gippsland, 121. Victorian Fishing Industry Federation - Levy, 1323.

Traynor, Mr (Ballarat East) Address-in-Reply, 239. Turner, Mr (Bendigo West) Children - Kindergarten employment contracts, Address-in-Reply,173. q 1644. Economy, The - Recovery, 174. Corrections - Industrial action by prison officers, q629. Electorates - Bendigo West, 173. Education - In Ballarat, 240. Ethnic Affairs - National Police Ethnic Advisory Bureau, q 631. Electorates - Ballarat East, 239. Fire Services - Fund ing, q 412. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (47)

Mining Industry - Goldmining in Bendigo, q 1138. Commercial Arbitration (Amendment) Bill, 109, 171, 525,1619. Petitions - Needs of disabled children, 1335. Macedon region future water resources, 1335. Institute of Consumer Advocacy and Advice Service - Funding, Educational Administration, 1563. 730. Police - National Police Ethnic Advisory Bureau, Corporations Law - Liquidations, 346. q 631. Crimes (Amendment) Bill, 2193, 2339. Police Regulation (Discipline) Bill, 1702. Crimes (Criminal Trials) Bill, 1258, 1357,2154,2155. Republic Advisory Committee - Membership, q 1495. Crimes (HIV) Bill, 1217, 1259, 1892. Unemployment - In Bendigo, 173. Deaths - Hon. Sir George Reid, QC, 5. United Firefighters Union - Activities, q 412. Electoral - Removal of election sign, 567. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 2082, 2118, 2262. Evidence (Unsworn Evidence) Bill, 341, 384,1617. Vaughan, Dr (Clayton) Fair Trading - Address-in-Reply, 853. General - Refurbishment of office of former Minister Chemicals - Storage, 854. Dioxin, 855. for Consumer Affairs, q 1004. Financial Counselling and Consumer Information Service, Children and Young Persons (Further Amendment) Geelong, 2283. Safety of household buckets, 2283. Bill,1415. Office - Funding: of tenancy services, 730; of City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1209, 1212, 1216. Consumer Advocacy and Advice Service, 731; Electorates - Clayton, 854. Footscray regional office, 832. Environment Protection Authority - Fallout from Clayton warehouse fire, 854. Financial Counselling and Consumer Information Service, Geelong, 2283. Ethnic Affairs Commission Bill, 1661. Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, 1584, 1585, Industry Services - Chemical fire at Mayne Nickless 1737,1739,2244,2245,2255. warehouse, 854. Funerals (Pre-Paid Money) Bill, 1217. Law Reform Commission - Incomplete references, 30. Gaming Machine Control (Amendment) Bill, 262, 379, Law Reform Committee - Law Reform Commission 1457, 1459, 1461. references, 30. Health - Family planning clinics, 129. Mayne Nickless Transport Management - Warehouse fire, 854. International Women's Day, 182. Parliament - Election of Speaker, 853. Administration, Interpretation of Legislation (Amendment) Bill, 385, 853. Committee system, 854. 758,759. Petitions - Human life experimentation, 18. Odours Law Courts - Reports: County Court judges, 418; from land fill sites, South Clayton, 18. State deficit Supreme Court judges, 418; Council of Magistrates, levy, 835, 2047. ' 2291. Melbourne Magistrates Court complex, q 894. Supreme Court waiting lists, q 1591. Comments of Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) judiciary on women and sexual violence, 1713. Bill, 579. Judicial in-service programs on sex offences, 1714. Tertiary Education Bill, 1677. Law Reform Commission - Excesses, q 293. Vic Tips - In South Clayton, 856. Statutes project, q 374, q 375, q 630. Victorian Plantations Corporation Bill, 2133. Law Reform Committee - Law Reform Commission references, 30. Legal Aid - Funding, q 200. Legal Profession Practice (Guarantee Fund) Bill, 2115, Wade, Mn (Kew) (Attorney-General, Minister for Fair 2205,2325. Trading, and Minister responsible for Women's Affairs) Ministry, The - Minister for Fair Trading: performance, q 631. Consumer Affairs: expenses of Advertising - Offensive, 2283. former Ministry, q 1004. ARFO Unit Trust, 129. Parliament - Business of the House: postponement, Australian Institute of Judicial Administration - 1620. In-service programs for judges on sex offences, 1714. Parliamentary Salaries and Superannuation (BasiC Broadmeadows Tenant Information Service - Salary) Bill, 450. Funding, 730. Points of Order - Motions: urgency, 735; wording of Casino Control (Amendment) Bill, 758, 845, 1438, 1440, circulated, 740; admissibility, 740. Remarks: veracity, 1441, 1442, 1443, 1444. 1890, 1942; relevance, 1991. Bill procedure under section 62 of Constitution Act, 2116. Standing Order Children - Drownings, 2283. No. 173,2116. Scope of debate, 2323. (48) INDEX

Prostitution Regulation Act, q 290, 347. Grievances, 1251. Public Service - Senior career positions for women, Hospitals - Medicare agreement, q 293. 1327. Housing - Home opportunity loan scheme, 1251. Safety ROPS (Aust.) Pty Ltd, 129. Industrial Relations - Federal award coverage, q 1102. St Kilda Tenants Union - Funding, 2172. Marine (Amendment) Bill, 1809. Sentencing Act - Amendment, q 17. Medicare - Agreement, q 293. Sentencing (Amendment) Bill, 1258, 1354, 1950. Melbourne Water - Clearing of tree branches in Knox, Small Business - Liquidation legislation, 346. 970. Subordinate Legislation (Amendment) Bill, 1618. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2221. Tenancies - Tenancy advice service, 2172. Unions - Program of stoppages, q 1496. Vic Statutes Project, q 374, q 375, q 630. Women's Affairs - Family planning clinics, 129. Senior career positions in Public Service, 1327. Wllson, Mn (Dandenong North) Sexual violence, 1713. Offensive advertising, 2283. City of Greater Geelong Bill, 1152, 1206, 1207, 1208, 1210, 1211, 1213. Education - Kalparri program, 471. Weideman, Mr (Frankston) Local Government (General Amendment) Bill, 2012, Address-in-Reply,324. 2088,2089,2090. Australian Labor Party - State election campaign, 324. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2218. Record in government, 324. Roads Corporation - South Eastern Arterial sound Economy, The -Government policies, 325. barriers, 971. Education - Government policies, 325. Electorates - Frankston, 324. Forests (S.E.A.S. Sapfor Ltd Agreement) Bill, 1794. Frankston, City of - Rates, 325. Quayside development, 326. Government, The - Education policies, 325. Health and Community Services (General Amendment) Bill, 2163. Members - Tourism promotion through electorate offices, 1933. Optus Communications - Tower construction, 1772. Parliament - Dining room, 2347. Points of Order - Matters raised during adjournment debate: to be directed to appropriate Minister, 562; to relate to government administration, 2347. Scope of debate, 1438. Racing (Amendment) Bill, 2238. Shop Trading (Further Amendment) (Amendment) Bill, 555, 577. Totalizator Agency Board - Deloitte Ross Tohmatsu report, q 14. Tourism - Promotion through electorate offices, 1933. Rulings and Statements as Acting Speaker - Debate -Offensive remarks, 1193.

Wells, Mr (Wantirna)

Australian Labor Party - Record in government, 1251. Commonwealth-State Relations - Government relationships, q 2200. Economy, The - Activities of union movement, q 1496. LEGIS LA TIVE ASSEMBLY (49)

QUESTIONS ON NOTICE

Listed in numerical order of questions on notice answered during period covered by this index.

Ministerial portfolios and abbreviations Aboriginal Affairs Ab Affs Agriculture Ag Attorney-General A-G Community Services CS Corrections Corr Education Ed Energy and Minerals E&tM Ethnic Affairs EA Fair Trading FT Finance Fin Health Health Industry and Employment I &t E Industry Services IS Natural Resources NR Planning Plan Police and Emergency Services Pat ES Premier Prem Public Transport PT Small Business SB Sport, Recreation and Racing SR&t R State Owned Enterprises SOE Tourism Tour Treasurer Treas Youth Affairs YA Womens' Affairs WA

Qn Date Page No. Subject mIltter Asked by Answered by No.

Questions on Notice - Or Coghill Mr Kennett (Prem) 9.3.93 191 Answers 2 Roads Corporation - DrCoghill Mr Kennett (Prem) 9.3.93 191 VIC Series 4 Small Business - Mr Roper Mr Heffeman (SB) 18.5.93 2360 Annual Report 5 Werribee Train Service - DrCoghill Mr Brown (PT) 4.5.93 2357 Peak Hour Passengers 6 Werribee Train Service- DrCoghill Mr Brown (PT) 4.5.93 2358 Timetables 12 Werribee Train Service- DrCoghill Mr Brown (PT) 20.5.93 2361 Timetables