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CONTENTS

03 Acknowledgements 06 Introduction 09 Conference summary 22 Next steps

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Acknowledgements

ANZSOG acknowledges the Thank you to Uncle Rocky and The inaugural Showcasing Traditional Custodians and Mitch Mahoney for sharing their Indigenous Strength and First Peoples of Australia and cultural knowledge during the Leadership in Public Māori, as tangata whenua and Birrarung Wilam tours. Administration awards were Treaty of Waitangi partners sponsored by the Chartered in Aotearoa-New Zealand. The conference was made possible Accountants Australia New Zealand by the generous financial support (CAANZ). The 2019 Reimagining Public of the Australian Department of Administration conference the Prime Minister and Cabinet, ANZSOG acknowledges the was held at Federation Square, and the support of the New unique work that Melbourne- Melbourne on the lands of the South Wales and Tasmanian based Wemba Wemba artist Kulin Nations. Elder Governments. Other governments Emma Bamblett created for the Aunty Di Kerr provided the supported the conference by conference. ‘Journey’ represents Welcome to Country. sending delegations to attend. coming together, journey and connection - all principles behind Reimagining Public Administration. This report was designed by Andrea Stanning Design. 04 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT 05 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

Message from ANZSOG Dean and CEO, Professor Ken Smith

Deliberations at the conference It is clear that the public sector The stories, experiences and raised some important questions needs to value Indigenous wisdom we heard from speakers for public sectors in Australia knowledge and culture, not just and delegates at the 2019 and New Zealand. for their importance to Indigenous conference will form a foundation communities, but for the broader through which ANZSOG will How do we reimagine governance community. From this basis, continue its journey to improve structures and service delivery? we need to build Indigenous the representation of First How do we include Indigenous capability within our public Peoples’ knowledge, wisdom and communities in every part of services and embed Indigenous experiences in the work we do the policy cycle, from design to views and practice within public in our core areas of developing evaluation, and what does it look policy and service delivery. public sector leadership, like when we do? through teaching, learning and How can we think beyond metrics research. We must do this if we like the Australian Closing the are to achieve our objective of Gap targets – with their focus on educating, inspiring, enriching deficits – to ways of measuring and connecting the public the success of Indigenous services of Australia, New Zealand communities, against their cultural and beyond. values and on their own terms? 06 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT “We must all take responsibility to imagine a future where Indigenous people thrive and we must do whatever it takes to reach that future.” Introduction – Professor Marcia Langton AM

ANZSOG’s Reimagining Public The 2019 conference focused The program consisted of a Administration: First Peoples, on the future, with speakers series of plenaries, including a 54 speakers: 430 delegates governance and new challenging delegates to keynote speech from Professor from across paradigms conference reimagine a new path for Marcia Langton AM, Associate 47 Indigenous Australia provided the opportunity for Indigenous Affairs. Provost and Foundation Chair 7 non-Indigenous and New Zealand public servants, community of Australian Indigenous Studies A diverse group of expert leaders and academics to at The , speakers were joined by over come together to reimagine along with four parallel streams 26 female 430 delegates from across the future of Indigenous reimagining: Australia and New Zealand. 28 male speakers Affairs in Australia and They represented a range > leadership Aotearoa-New Zealand. of sectors – public, university, > relationships The conference built on the not-for-profit and private – 10 jurisdictions in > service systems October 2017 Indigenous Affairs and covered a range of Australia and

and Public Administration: Can’t subject matters including > and knowledge systems. New Zealand we do better? conference held health, education, leadership, The conference dinner 4 sectors at the University of , which tourism, families, Treaty and recognised strength and looked back at the last 50 years the environment. leadership through community 3 countries of Indigenous Affairs in Australia The conference garnered a awards, cultural entertainment and New Zealand to examine large digital audience, including and a keynote address from the what needs to change to achieve more than 18,000 hits to the 2014 Australian of the Year, better results for Indigenous ANZSOG website and 20,000 Adam Goodes. communities. video views across social media. #FirstPeoples2019 trended Australia-wide during the conference, with approximately 1 million people reached via the hashtag. More than 10,000 people were engaged on Facebook throughout and in the lead up to the conference.

Professor Marcia Langton AM, Associate Provost and Foundation Chair of Australian Indigenous Studies at the University of Melbourne 07 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

Four consistent messages emerged during the conference

1 2 3 4 Give communities Everyone can learn from Representation matters We are all agents more control Indigenous ways of We need Indigenous people for change Communities need the money, knowing and being represented across the public We all have a responsibility to authority and power to identify Governments must support service at all levels, and challenge our own mindset and their priorities, make their the expression, continuation particularly as senior decision- the mindsets of the people we own investment decisions, and celebration of Indigenous makers. Indigenous people work with, to achieve change in and deliver their own services. language, culture and bring unique perspectives, Indigenous public administration. Empowered communities knowledge. Culture is essential knowledge and experience and While systematic changes and exercising Indigenous jurisdiction to the wellbeing of Indigenous can challenge the status quo reimagining may be necessary can deliver better and more communities and investing to effect positive change for in the long run, every individual efficient outcomes for First in culture can improve trust communities. can challenge the way things Peoples. Self-determination for and relationships between have always been done and Indigenous communities should communities and government. assumptions about what works not be viewed as undermining Indigenous culture is also central for communities. Individuals government authority. Instead, to mainstream Australian and must reimagine themselves, Indigenous jurisdictions can New Zealand cultural identity their role in the system, and complement local, state and positioning our countries their relationship with Indigenous and federal governments as as thought leaders. Public people and communities. partners in Indigenous public services can benefit from Indigenous public servants must administration. embedding Indigenous ways of also reimagine themselves as knowing and being across their leaders who have a right to be operations, in policy design, present, a story to tell, and a community engagement and voice to be heard. implementation. This includes better policy and practice relating to the environment and water, data collection, and education. 08 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT 09 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

CONFERENCE SUMMARY

Opening Remarks

The conference opened with 1 Be serious about the Michelle Hippolite, CEO a warm Welcome to Country challenge of reimagining Te Puni Kōkiri, New Zealand, from Wurundjeri Elder “We often get caught up in rounded out the opening Aunty Di Kerr, and a captivating day-to-day operations but remarks by asking delegates dance and yidaki performance need to make time to think to think of ways to change the from Culture Evolves. about what we do and why mindsets of their colleagues we do it.” to overcome unconscious bias A panel of senior public servants and institutional racism. She representing Aboriginal, Torres 2 Reimagine the narrative emphasised that all individuals Strait Islander and Māori “To ensure we are telling our hold the power for change and perspectives framed the own stories as Indigenous that “We can’t continue to do conference and proposed peoples.” Ritchie noted that the same things if we want to get an approach for delegates to public servants can tend different results for Aboriginal, engage with the conference to think about processes, Torres Strait Islander peoples, sessions. Leilani Bin-Juda PSM, structures and operations and and Māori”. Torres Strait Islands Treaty forget the power of narratives Liaison Officer,Department and stories to change peoples’ of Foreign Affairs and Trade, lives stressed the importance of Indigenous public servants 3 Reimagine the task coming together regularly, to “So we don’t focus solely on share experiences and build outcomes and think more strong networks across agencies. about doing things the right The Australian Institute for way, with genuine co-design Aboriginal and Torres Strait and engagement.” Islander Studies (AIATSIS) CEO Craig Ritchie engaged directly 4 Reimagine ourselves with the theme of reimagining, “As Indigenous public servants inviting delegates to: by being present and engaged and not sitting on the margins.” Craig Ritchie, CEO of the Australian Performance by Noongar and Yamatji man Brent Watkins from Culture Evolves Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies 10 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

“Give the money to the Indigenous sector. Give the power to the Indigenous sector.”

– Professor Marcia Langton AM, Associate Provost and Self-governing not governed: Foundation Chair of Australian Indigenous Studies at empowering Indigenous the University of Melbourne people and communities

Professor Marcia Langton’s keynote address emphasised the need for Indigenous people to hold the political power to govern themselves, citing Empowered Communities as an effective model for working with communities. She implored governments to move away from the policies of the past which focused on welfare and move towards empowerment, incentives, and opportunities. In Professor Langton’s view, governments also need to stop imagining the limits of the policy space and be aspirational, focusing on what governments want to achieve rather than what they are likely to achieve in existing structures. Her message was simple but powerful.

Professor Marcia Langton AM, Associate Provost and Foundation Chair of Australian Indigenous Studies at the University of Melbourne addresses delegates in Deakin Edge 11 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

“Work with us. We know our people, we can help to facilitate – to understand if state intervention is required.”

–  Liz Marsden Reimagining leadership

Many speakers explained “Seeing through Ultimately, this means valuing Professor Glyn Davis said that Indigenous leadership Māori eyes, hearing with Indigenous knowledges in Indigenous people are is imbued with a strength - Māori ears, and feeling the public sector. As Michelle represented in the APS in connected to family, heritage, Hippolite said: population parity, but the community, place and with a Māori heart.” majority are at lower levels “It is time to experience - which sets it Delegates heard about the and there is high turnover. apart. If governments want emotional labour of working institutionalise ideas We need more Indigenous to change their approaches in a bicultural context; a skill like Mātauranga Māori people in senior levels to to Indigenous public and task that non-Indigenous (Māori knowledge) or drive change. Lil Anderson administration they can only colleagues do not have to master, ‘the Indigenous flavour.” spoke about the need for the do so by understanding and intellectually or emotionally. public service to demonstrate respecting Indigenous ways All Indigenous public servants In the session on Public Service leadership in the way it relates of knowing. have had to learn to operate in Reform, panellists emphasised with First Peoples. Building the need for the public service genuine partnerships takes Speakers emphasised Indigenous two worlds, if they are to thrive. to represent the community time but leads to better leaders pursue the same Governments can reciprocate, it serves. Both the review of outcomes for all. outcomes as non-Indigenous and reimagine their own the Australian Public Service leaders, but they go about A similar message emerged leadership, by acknowledging and the New Zealand State their jobs differently. The most in the session on Community their parallel need to understand Sector Act review were seen fundamental message was a call Leadership, where speakers the Indigenous experience. as opportunities to reassess for systemic change: the need to emphasised governments need Governments will deliver the extent to which the public validate the idea that Indigenous to change the way they work better policy for Indigenous service represents and serves leadership is of the same calibre with communities, by practicing communities by approaching Indigenous peoples. as other leadership, and is a them with a question or co-design, devolving power or natural part of our system not challenge to work through rather allowing communities to lead an add-on or afterthought. than presenting pre-determined the way completely. Dr Daryn Bean, Deputy Chief solutions. This can be the basis Executive Māori, New Zealand for relationships built on mutual Qualifications Authority, trust and respect. reminded delegates their strength comes from: 12 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

Dr Daryn Bean, Deputy Chief Executive Māori, New Zealand Qualifications Authority (NZ) and Michelle Hippolite, Chief Executive, Te Puni Kōkiri (Ministry of Māori Development) (NZ) hongi in a symbolic expression of unity and Indigenous leadership

Denise Bowden, CEO, Yothu Yindi Foundation 13 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

International perspectives on Indigenous affairs

The international perspectives Associate Professor Morgan Brigg, panel examined Indigenous University of Queensland, also governance models and the outlined the sophisticated need to recognise Indigenous political network of which jurisdiction and authority. Indigenous people are practitioners. The historical Dr Karen Diver, former Special relationship between the Assistant for Native American state and First Peoples is Affairs during the Obama complex, and, as Associate Administration and tribal Professor Brigg explained: leader, reminded delegates that Dr Karen Diver, Dr Miriam Jorgensen and Lil Anderson Indigenous peoples know how “The only way to reimagine to govern and have had their public administration own forms of government for generations before colonisation: in this context is to recognise Indigenous “I want to challenge jurisdiction and authority, “In the US, governments have found ways the idea of reimagining. Indigenous heritage, to cede authority to Indigenous nations. We need to remember redress colonisation who we were before. and aim for balance”. Not necessarily to ‘share power’ but to say We’ve been changed While the key message of this is Indigenous business, responsibility and by contact and how this plenary was the success the colonial institutions of independent Indigenous jurisdiction. And it actually makes the job were set up to oppress, governance, Dr Diver also easier for the American government because minimise and enslave reminded delegates that strong us. But we’ve done this Native Nations also need they have partners in this work and know Indigenous peoples to occupy, before. We know who disrupt and contribute to that Indigenous governments have got this.” we are.” non-Native spaces. – Dr Miriam Jorgensen, University of Arizona Native Nations Institute 14 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

Reimagining relationships

The relationship between Empowering communities By comparison, celebration and “Indigenous people often reimagine and transform the governments and Indigenous to make their own decisions understanding of Aboriginal and see truth telling as a relationship between First communities, and the on governance, funding and Torres Strait Islander culture in bridge to the present and Peoples and non-Indigenous relationship between First economic development was a Australia is less prevalent. Australia and New Zealand Peoples and wider society, clear theme. As Sam Jeffries, Governments are working to want truth about the past societies, for the benefit of all. must be a central focus in Special Advisor Regional improve these foundations to inform policy-making reimagining new paradigms Governance at the Department and build more constructive now, non-Indigenous in public administration. of the Prime Minister and relationships, through initiatives people want to use truth Cabinet explained: such as ’s Deadly The Reimagining relationships telling as a wall, to close Questions. The campaign has stream examined history, the “Changing government- worked to build an understanding off the past and move challenge of trust and the community relations of culture and the history of the forward without a complexity of relationships often-traumatic relationship between the governments of is the long game”. relationship with between Aboriginal people, Australia and New Zealand and that past.” Improving government- government, and society. This Indigenous communities. These community relations is not understanding is an important It is not incumbent upon relationships were explored only about autonomy but also foundation of the Treaty process Indigenous people alone to build through the lens of the Treaty acknowledging the central in Victoria. awareness of history and culture; process in Victoria and Treaty place of culture. Brandi Hudson, wider non-Indigenous society settlement in New Zealand, Independent Māori Statutory As Professor Sarah Maddison has a responsibility to engage through initiatives such as the Board CEO, explained the explained in the session A new with the past in a meaningful OCHRE program in New South importance of embracing Paradigm for Indigenous-settler and constructive way. Through Wales and the Independent Māori history and culture in the relations, dealing with the past a basis in truth, trust, and a Māori Statutory Board of the processes of government at the as a foundation for reimagining shared understanding of history City of Auckland, and Auckland City Council. The Board future relations is a significant and culture, the government is through the lens of individual has also changed the physical challenge. Drawing on the work far better equipped to have a collaboration between Indigenous landscape, such as place names of Courtney Jung, Professor more constructive relationship and non-Indigenous people. and language of the city. This Maddison explained that: with communities; one that has contributed to significant shares decision-making power, positive outcomes for Māori, provides autonomy to Indigenous empowering communities and communities, and acknowledges building understanding of First Indigenous jurisdiction. It is from Peoples in the wider community. this basis that we can positively 15 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT 16 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

CONFERENCE DINNER: CELEBRATING LEADERSHIP

The dinner recognised two ANZSOG also launched the joint Aboriginal comedian and MC for key examples of Indigenous Winston Churchill Memorial the dinner, Steven Oliver’s deadly community leadership through Trust Fellowships, providing an comedy and powerful poetry the inaugural Showcasing opportunity for two Indigenous reminded everyone of how far Indigenous Strength and public servants to travel overseas we’ve come and how strong we Leadership in Public and work with leaders of are as a collective. The Ngā Mātai Administration Awards. influence to gain and exchange Pūrua performers enthralled the The two winners, Dawul Wuru knowledge and experience to crowd and got Goodes on his Aboriginal Corporation and build Indigenous leadership in feet for kapa haka. The evening Ngāpuhi Iwi Social Services public services and improve was an uplifting celebration of showcased the success of outcomes for Indigenous culture, Indigenous excellence, community leadership through communities. laughter and community. culture, caring for country, and supporting youth to succeed.

“I don’t believe people are born as leaders. Leadership is a skillset. You learn it. Adam Goodes’ personal story of learning about culture, the impact And you don’t need to lead loudly either, of education, and the value of family and belonging to a community you can lead by being a good mentor, inspired delegates at the conference dinner. The former AFL star, who building strong relationships, and has Adnyamathanha and Narungga delivering on what you promise.” heritage, also shared his personal leadership journey. – Adam Goodes, 2014 Australian of the Year 17 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

Reimagining Steven Renata, CEO, KIWA Digital (NZ) Romlie Mokak, CEO, The Lowitja Institute service systems

The policy settings for service doctors sought to rectify health Steven Renata, CEO, KIWA Digital Another example of adapting delivery for First Peoples are inequalities for Māori through a (NZ), also discussed the role of current service systems is to often highly politicised, and claim for breach of the Treaty culture in education explaining integrate the voices of service- do not place communities at of Waitangi: how Kiwi Digital is strengthening users into the design and the centre of decision-making. culture and language through delivery of that service. Hoani Reimagining service systems “When the system does digital storytelling. Mr. Renata Lambert, Deputy Chief Executive with culture, communities and not deliver for Indigenous highlighted the use of digital at the Ministry for Children users at the centre is integral peoples, we must get apps as a modern way of Oranga Tamariki, New Zealand, to achieve better outcomes. creative to ensure that storytelling, something which explained the importance is especially important for a of co-designing policy with The speakers offered ways it does.” digitally savvy generation. He communities, and involving Māori to adapt current systems but Speaking more to ways of emphasised curiosity as the youth in the policy processes also disrupt them to deliver for working within existing systems, key to revitalising culture and that impact them, particularly communities. Adrian Carson, Miranda Edwards, CEO of Lullas bringing non-Indigenous people as many young people are not CEO of the Institute for Urban Children and Family Centre, along for the journey: eligible to vote and therefore Indigenous Health explained and Timothy Warwick, Acting lack access to the authorising how governments can become Principal at Gowrie Street “Always go for curiosity environment for policymaking. stagnant in their approach to Primary School, described the whatever you do, service delivery, not adapting to Resonating, throughout this success of their Kaiela Dhungala community and demographic whatever you say, stream, was a clear message- First Peoples Curriculum project. change. One way Mr. Carson whatever you write... culture is central to social policy This curriculum project in suggested to overcome once you’ve got curiosity areas like health, education the Victorian Goulburn Valley stagnation is for Indigenous and welfare. It permeates how involved a consultative process in the room, that’s when organisations like his to act as Indigenous peoples relate with with local elders and schools, the magic happens.” health integrators, both at a service systems and needs as well as teachers learning health systems and community stronger positioning in service local languages. It empowered systems level. Dr Rawiri Jansen, delivery. Communities also Indigenous and non-Indigenous Chair of Te Ataarangi Trust and need more control to make sure students in ways which have led Te Ohu Rata o Aotearoa provided services are appropriate and to students proudly identifying another example of disruption, adapted to local contexts. with their local elders and explaining how a group of Māori cultural background. 18 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

“When the colonisers came to colonise, the Nyungars, like others, were in a counter-colonial process. This idea that we speak English? I challenge that, because the traditional owners and old bosses of Country Year of Indigenous spoke our language and imposed it on the outsiders languages and gave them the knowledge of Country.”

Day two opened with another A key theme of this session – Professor Len Collard powerful celebration of was the role of language as culture, recognising 2019 as the an assertion of sovereignty. United Nations International Dr Vicki Couzens, Vice Year of Indigenous Languages. Chancellor’s Indigenous The presenters spoke Research Fellow at RMIT, extensively in their Indigenous spoke about her own work to languages, and facilitator revitalise Indigenous languages in Sharon Nelson-Kelly, Advisor, Victoria and stressed that policy First Peoples Programs and should be “for us, by us, and Strategy at ANZSOG, was nothing about us without us”. joined in a waiata (song) by Meanwhile, Professor Len other Māori speakers and Collard, Australian Research delegates. Council Chief Investigator at the University of Western Australia, Language and culture go hand in explained how Indigenous hand, and investment in language languages and knowledges have revitalisation is key to better shaped the nation, influencing outcomes for communities. place-names, the positions of Ms Nelson-Kelly used the kete, highways and the locations of a Māori basket, as a metaphor Steven Renata, CEO, KIWA Digital (NZ) cities, in something he calls the for how policy, culture, language, and Sharon Nelson-Kelly, Senior Advisor, “counter-colonial process”. First Peoples Programs and Strategy, ANZSOG legislation, procedures, and communities must be “woven” The session closed with a look together in Indigenous affairs. to the future, with Steven Renata, CEO of Kiwa Digital, demonstrating how technology can be used to revitalise language and share culture through apps.

Professor Len Collard, Australian Research Council, Chief Investigator, School of Indigenous Studies, the University of Western Australia and Dr Vicki Couzens, Vice Chancellor’s Indigenous Research Fellow, RMIT 19 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

“Art and culture is our very lifeblood; and it connects us to the land, which is in us, but equally we are the land.”

– Franchesca Cubillo, National Gallery of Australia Reimagining knowledge systems

Indigenous voices are often Ms Miller spoke about this Similarly, Linnae Pohatu, Tumuaki First Peoples are the keepers The flow on effects of drawing left out of the policy-making concept in the context of Director Māori and Pacific of relevant and important on Indigenous knowledge and process, which is detrimental the Arts, calling for greater Development, Tamaki Paenga knowledge about themselves, culture may also be unexpected. to Indigenous and non- investment in Indigenous artists, Hira Auckland War Memorial their culture, and the Ricky Archer, North Australian Indigenous peoples alike. performers and storytellers. Museum (NZ), described how environment. The government Indigenous Land and Sea Governments need to take museums have always controlled needs to be open to this Management Alliance Ltd, The same idea was reiterated in Indigenous knowledge stories about Indigenous peoples, knowledge, as it may hold the key argued that culturally driven the Politics of Data panel where seriously and recognise and silenced Indigenous to a number of challenging issues. land and sea management could Maggie Walter, Professor of its benefits. voices. Co-designed or iwi-led For instance, Fred Hooper, positively impact other issues Sociology and Pro Vice- exhibitions can help centre Chair of the Murrawarri Peoples for Indigenous communities The Reimagining knowledge Chancellor of Aboriginal Indigenous voices and reshape Council and the Northern Basin like housing, incarceration or systems stream explored Research and Leadership at the the narrative. Ms. Pohatu’s point Aboriginal Nations, explained the suicide. Similarly, Ms Miller noted effective land and water University of Tasmania, explained has significance beyond the importance of an Indigenous how investment in Indigenous management, Indigenous data how non-Indigenous people are museum context, with the same approach to the Murray Darling arts and cultural participation sovereignty, and investment driving the narrative of principle applicable to other Basin crisis saying: supports strong and resilient in First Peoples’ arts and Indigenous affairs policy through Western institutions including Indigenous children leading to culture. The overarching theme data. Instead, Walters suggested the public service. “We have a simple better education outcomes, across these sessions was that Indigenous people and management plan: wellbeing and safer communities. reimagining public administration communities must be involved in Dr Stephen Arnott PSM, First requires the reshaping of policy what the narrative of the data is, Assistant Secretary for the don’t be greedy; The keys to success are platforms narratives. by shaping how data is collected, Arts Division, Department of don’t take any more than for Indigenous leadership and what data is collected and how it Communications and the Arts you need; and respect decision-making based on Lydia Miller, Executive Director, is interpreted. Australia, concurred with his culture. First Peoples hold Aboriginal and Torres Strait everything around you. Indigenous co-panellists about essential knowledge in a range of Islander Arts, Australia Council That’s not happening in the role of non-Indigenous policy areas – and want to be for the Arts, explained: people working in Indigenous the Murray-Darling Basin involved in their own narrative. “First Nations people are affairs. Dr Arnott reflected on at the moment”. best placed to tell their his role as a non-Indigenous public servant, stating he own stories” was a “custodian of programs that are owned by Indigenous communities”. 20 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

Professor Ian Anderson AO, Deputy Secretary for Indigenous Affairs at the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet

Horiana Irwin-Easthope, Managing Director, Whāia Legal (NZ) 21 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

Closing remarks Leilani Bin-Juda, Craig Ritchie “We can’t succeed without an investment and Michelle Hippolite returned to wrap up the in Indigenous policymakers. It’s about conference in the afternoon of day two with a summary building capability, finding pathways of the key lessons from the plenaries and stream sessions. to recognise success, acknowledging They emphasised the leadership, and building those pathways importance of Indigenous peoples acting as positive from the lowest levels of policymaking disruptors of the status quo in the public service and to the most senior policymakers.” being the agents of change within their organisations. – Professor Ian Anderson AO, Deputy Secretary Michelle Hippolite, Chief Executive, Te Puni Kōkiri for Indigenous Affairs at the Department of The speakers reiterated the need (Ministry of Māori Development) (NZ) Prime Minister and Cabinet to shift the balance of power to communities; and also touched on the value of the conference itself, as an opportunity to “ANZSOG is on a journey to improve the connect and reconnect with colleagues, networks and representation of First Peoples’ knowledge, wisdom friends from across Australia, New Zealand and beyond. and experiences in the work we do in our core areas The conference officially of developing public sector leadership through concluded with some of the video highlights from the two teaching, learning and research. This journey days, and a thank you from ANZSOG Dean and CEO is our contribution to help address the great Professor Ken Smith. unfinished business of Australian and New Zealand governments – improving public policy and service outcomes for and with First Peoples.”

– Professor Ken Smith, ANZSOG Dean and CEO 22 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT Next steps

The conference reinforced a shared vision for the reimagining of public administration We will... in Australia and New Zealand – one that invests in Indigenous employment and To educate public managers > Develop the capabilities of Indigenous and non- to improve their skills capacity Indigenous public servants. This includes targeted leadership in the public service; recognises programs to support Indigenous public servants to the need to reset relationships between EDUCATE and leadership and expose achieve and succeed at senior leadership levels. governments and communities, and them to the best thinking on public management. > Embed Indigenous knowledge, culture and content acknowledges that Indigenous peoples, across all ANZSOG teaching and learning activities, to communities, culture and knowledge are ensure all leaders we develop are culturally confident. central to delivering better public value. The Poutama (stairway) has significant spiritual and educational meaning to Māori. To inspire public sector leaders to > Consistently challenge public services to find better ways of working with Indigenous communities, and more The steps symbolise levels of learning and be proud of their chosen career and be the best they can for ways of embedding Indigenous voices and developing attainment. From the Reimagining Public INSPIRE Indigenous leaders across everything we do. Administration: First Peoples, governance themselves and the communities they serve. > Investigate the establishment of a First Peoples and new paradigms conference, and in Community of Practice in the public sector. line with ANZSOG core business – ANZSOG is committed to delivering the following priorities represented in the Poutama. To connect public sector > Continue to facilitate opportunities for public servants, practitioners and academics and academics and community sector leaders to meet, build networks across agencies, network and share their experiences and views on CONNECT Indigenous public administration. sectors and jurisdictions. > Develop ANZSOG Indigenous alumni networks across jurisdictions, regular senior Indigenous public servant forums and future conferences.

To enrich debate on the future of the > Undertake demand-led strategic research projects public sector through our research to improve Indigenous public administration. ENRICH and providing forums for discussion of key issues.

To work with our government owners and university partners to lift the quality of public sector leadership and improve the lives of Australians and ANZSOG Purpose New Zealanders in everything we do. 23 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT

Conference sessions

Plenary Sessions Reimagining Reimagining Reimagining Reimagining Opening Remarks Leadership Relationships Service Systems Knowledge Systems > Leilani Bin-Juda Indigenous leaders Treaty Health systems free Land, water and environment > Michelle Hippolite in the public service > Elly Patira (facilitator) of racism and inequity > Dr Lyndon Ormond-Parker > Craig Ritchie > Craig Ritchie (facilitator) > Jill Gallagher AO > Romlie Mokak (facilitator) > (facilitator) Self-governing not governed: > Michelle Hippolite > Josh Smith > Adrian Carson > Ricky Archer empowering Indigenous people > Dr Daryn Bean > Peter Douglas > Dr Rawiri Jansen > Fred Hooper > Dr Kalinda Griffiths > Horiana Irwin-Easthope and communities Public service reform Power-sharing between > Professor Marcia Langton > Damien Miller (facilitator) governments and communities The voice of children The politics of data International perspectives > Professor Glyn Davis AO > Geoff Richardson PSM > Belinda Duarte (facilitator) > Professor Maggie Walter on Indigenous affairs > Professor Tom Calma AO > (facilitator) > Hoani Lambert > Professor Ian Anderson AO > Lil Anderson > Brandi Hudson > Mick Gooda > Associate Professor > Leila Smith (facilitator) > Jason Ardler PSM Maui Hudson > Dr Karen Diver Lessons from the community: Culture is education > Sam Jeffries > Dr Miriam Jorgensen what they want you to know > Paulina Motlop (facilitator) Arts and culture > Associate Professor > Dr Karen Diver (facilitator) A new paradigm for > Timothy Warwick > Franchesca Cubillo (facilitator) > Morgan Brigg > Denise Bowden Indigenous-settler relations? > Miranda Edwards > Stephen Arnott PSM > Lilian Anderson > Liz Marsden > Dr Sana Nakata (facilitator) > Steven Renata > Lydia Miller Year of Indigenous Languages > Professor Sarah Maddison > Linnae Pohatu > Sharon Nelson-Kelly (facilitator) > Dr Vicki Couzens > Professor Len Collard > Steven Renata Closing remarks > Leilani Bin-Juda > Michelle Hippolite > Craig Ritchie 24 REIMAGINING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION: First Peoples, governance and new paradigms POST-CONFERENCE REPORT Visit anzsog.edu.au to access post-conference resources and ANZSOG information regarding upcoming events and programs.

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