New series: religion in schools Sydney FM Station to cover The Australian )c FIRST PUBLISHED IN 1880 London Crusade CHURCH Sydney's Radio Station, 2 CBA-FM, will be church organizations are tooling up to part of a world wide radio network, when persuade millions to listen, and to it broadcasts the Luis Palau meetings in provide counsel to those who heed London, during the first week of July. The Palau's appeal to become followers of coverage of the meetings will be heard Christ ' CORD from Monday July 2nd to Saturday, July The Palau Team is working with the 1805 JULY 9. 1984 Registered by Australia Post Publication No. NAR1678 Telephone 264 8349 PRICE 50 CENTS 7th at 7.00 p.m. Chicago-based Moody Broadcasting /ea When international evangelist Luis Network in planning U.S. radio coverage Palau speaks at the 20,000 seat stadium in of the London meetings over Moody's 65 London, virtually the entire English- affiliate stations. Canada, Australia, and speaking world will be able to listen-in, New Zealand will also be among the through the COMMONWEALTH '84" nations listening in as Palau preaches the project. gospel in the West London soccer stadium. Australian Incredulity Over English Bps The campaign, supported by approximately 1,600 London churches, is This summer's London campaign is the to be held in the Queen's Park Rangers second phase of a year-long effort for Stadium six nights a week, for a duration Palau. Last year, he and several associates The Uavid Jenkins affair, as it is being called, this Jesus was a unique event from God miracles, the virgin birth and the doesn't matter very much. "Do you think Liz Gilbert, lather Graeme Koine,, Ellie M.1, Pherson, Colleen Cook, John Macperson, of six weeks, in June and July. British preached to more than 200,000 in a series has expanded out from Durham to the rest doesn't seem to me, reading the records resurrection might not have happened that it is a weakness in modern society that Peter Wilkinson and Stuart Monad Telecom International has arranged to of rallies around London, netting 8,000 of England and now Australia where even and what Paul says in 1 Corinthians that exactly as described in the Bible. Christians looks for all sorts of panaceas without transmit same-day radio broadcasts of public affirmations to receive Christ or secular commentators are disturbed. Prof. there was any one event which you could need not believe that Jesus Christ was God, worrying too much about their validity?", A novel series designed to appeal to local Church Hall. Some of the themes the Stadium rallies, during the final week follow him more closely. David Jenkins, a University Theologian in identify with the resurrection". some said. 19 said that it was enough to asked Kennedy. He also noted that the children in the eight to 11 age group has they explore in this current series include: England, has been the subject of a bishop's replies indicated that they thought of June. Church leaders organizing the Graham The English lay unhappiness at the look on Christ as "God's supreme agent". begun on ABC Radio 2 and 3. The series How Christianity Spread; Different Ways widespread lay and clerical petition to the the Bible a pretty shonky document. Major missionary broadcasters, whose and Palau crusades say they have not prospect of Prof. Jenkins becoming the new About half said miracles in the New is called Open Up, and the theme for of Praying in Different World Religions; Archbishop of Canterbury, Ronald Runcie, stations blanket most of the earth with seen such unity and evangelistic interest Bishop of Durham, spread further when Testament were later additions to the Jesus Even if the English situation was to mean 1984 emphasises the need for chldren to Friendship, its Benefits and asking that Jenkin's appointment to the religious and cultural programming, have among Christians in Britain in decades. London Week-end Television surveyed 31 of story. the end of the Church of England as we open up — that is, to grow and expand in Responsibilities, Being Thoughtful and bishopric of Durham be not confirmed. some are predicting a revival this summer the 39 English Bishops as to what they know it, Peter Jensen said in reply to a tolerance and understanding. Considerate to Others; and Belonging. agreed to air the one-hour broadcasts to Most Bishops said that Jesus came back English-speaking people in 31 countries, on a scale not seen since the visit of Recently, David Jenkins had said on TV thought Christians needed to believe about from the dead, whether as flesh and blood, question, "then it doesn't really matter, Ss The programs are devised around a group The Open Up programs are heard on ABC many of them classified as Third Wold. In Chicago evangelist D. Moody 100 years that "I think it quite likely that Jesus our Lord's virgin birth and his true manhood or as a spirit in human form. But nine said the church of God is not the same thing as of teenagers from a Church Youth Club Radio 2 and 3 at 10.45 a.m. each those countries, churches and para- ago. performed miracles, or was thought to have and Godhood as the Gospels and the Creed that the resurrection was "a series of the Church of England. God's work will go who come together under the guidance Wednesday during school term. The performed miracles", 'The virgin birth I am teach. Only 11 of the 31 English Bishops experiences" after Jesus death, which on in the world anyway". "The institutional of Father Graeme Kaines. The group of broadcast time varies in some states so pretty clear, is a story told after the event in unreservedly upheld orthodox belief, the convinced his followers "he was alive churches, of which the Church of England is singers and players act out Bible stories or please check your local radio guide. order to express and symbolise a faith that rest had reservations. Many said that Christ's among them". one, certainly face the problem of typical life situations by story telling, Program notes offering suggestions on extinction within the next one hundred The television programme also said that comedy, drama, song and dialogue. how to use the series are available — free years. This sort of teaching will certainly Record priesthood students at theological colleges Sometimes they are invited to attend —each term from ABC Religious hasten this," school scripture classes, or Sunday Programs at the address below. were taught both the traditional and new schools or worship services. Evangelist Luis Palau Slams approaches to the Christian doctrines. As to Australia, some leaders hold these ABC Religious Programs, GPO Box 9994, enrolment views, but a majority of Christians are fairly They work out their ideas and themes in Sydney, NSW 2001. NEM Sydney — Adelaide — Melbourne conventional, Dr. Jensen concluded. a series of workshop situations in the There are 104 students on the Campus for lectures (plus 80 part-time/evening British Clergy Critics The secular media in Australia has been Proper Shepherds students) which means a capacity quick to pick up the survey, Buzz Kennedy, enrolment. host of a radio talk-back programme on 2BL Sydney was not the only city to see an Australian reaction to the English situation. The Rev. Ray Wheeler, says: "Many of MUT interviewed Dr. Peter Jensen of Sydney. A gift from the Bible Society The ACR spoke with Father John Fleming, our supporters have prayed and we thank "Coming from a battery of bishops, this is Rector of the Church of the Good them for their faithfulness over a number surprizing news indeed", said Mr. Kennedy. Shepherd, Plymton SA, host of a talk-back It is colourful, attractive, informative and featuring information about spiritually of years. Facilities provided allow for a 'To my simple mind, this seems an show on 5KA, and a regular columnist for unique. needy countries, prayer points and the maximum number of about 100 students, impossible position for any church minister, The Adelaide Advertiser. John Fleming told way the Bible Society is meeting these already several applications have been PEOPLE let alone a bishop to hold". It is the Bible Society's 1984-1985 Bible-a- needs. received for 1985 and intending students us that although the poll doesn't say that Month Calendar, a genuine date calendar Dr. Jensen replied that he was not really should seek information as soon as the bishops themselves necessarily believe DIOCESE OF SYDNEY surprized since these sorts of views have possible. that Jesus is only "God's supreme agent", Rev. P. R. Watson will resign as Rector, St. been debated for over 150 years. However, they are, however, prepared to tolerate that An increasing number of students I uke's, Miranda on 1st November, 1984 to Peter Jensen added, he thought it was sort of belief as being sufficient for a become Rector, St. Thomas' North Sydney. New Archdeacon Appointed reveal the desire to undertake a course of incredible that the people reported to be Christian. in-depth Bible training in order to live the Rev. V. W. Roberts will resign as Rector, St holding those sorts of views should still be But Mr. Fleming went on, the role of an The Archbishop of Sydney, Donald served in England for two years in the Christian life and communicate the Clement's Mosman on 31st August, 1984 to in the church. Of course, Jensen said, the Anglican Bishop is "to drive away all false Robinson has announced that the Rev. dioceses of Winchester and Chelmsford, Gospel to their contemporaries. become full time Archdeacon of Wollongong. newspapers may not have reported the poll and strange doctrine which is contrary to Victor Roberts, rector of St. Clement's and for six years was General Secretary of The Diploma of Bible and Mission correctly. DIOCESE OF ADELAIDE God's word". It is inconsistent for a bishop Mosman, has been appointed as the new the Australian branch of the South (obtained after 2 years study), provides Rev. P. L. Miller Rector of Berri-Barmera, to claim to be a defender of the faith, while archdeacon to oversee the Wollongong American Missionary Society. Mr. Roberts an adequate basis for the development of Blasphemy Diocese of The Murray, will become Rector, St at the same time being prepared to region of Sydney diocese. visited South America extensively as an Christian character and training for Buzz Kennedy responded, "this cuts the Stephen's Glenunga from 12th September, condone obviously heretical views by executive of this organisation. He still effective service in local church situations ground directly from underneath Mr. Roberts will take up this position in 1984. church members. retains a very strong commitment to Christianity". The views expounded by the September. He was trained at Moore in Australia and overseas. Rev. W.f. Ogle will become Rector of the missionary outreach in general. He and "Bishops who do not want to do what Theological College in Sydney and has The Board of the College expects a Parish of Holy Redeemer, Ingle Farm on 31st ti English bishops just make Jesus another they promised to do ought to resign, so that been rector of three Sydney parishes. He his wife Delle have three children. large enrolment in 1985. luly, 1984. man, allbeit, a remarkable one. Mr, . Professors and Clergy representing alcoholism. He never worked. Now he's Kennedy continued, "if we worship Jesus — the church can appoint proper shepherds of King's College, London, the Church of decent,clean, a Godly man, serving the placing him, a human being upon a par the flock", said John Fleming. 'Those like England Mission and Unity Board, St. Giles Lord." with God — this is blasphemy!" David Jenkins should never present themselves for consecration since although Church, Camberwell, Deans College, Dr. Jensen admitted that Mr. Kennedy Wanted: new subscribers 'That's social action that is the result of a man has a right to believe what he wishes, Cambridge, St. James Church, Piccadilly, was perfectly right and that it is outside the onversion." he has no right to the episcopate." We are making a special otter to present 4) When you have three new subscribers (you and others claimed on a popular London realm of understanding as to why the 'Think of all the teenagers and college- The Australian Church Record has been bringing the subscribers. For every three new subscribers have up to 12 months to obtain them — you television program that evangelists such as English church leaders cannot see it too. 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. . . . lain Murray returning to UK Quick Cuts by Reverend Mark Tronson After serving St. Giles Presbyterian Church, closes on July 1, his weekly-broadcast, 'The New ministry, Christians in Sport Hurstville, since 1981, lain Murray, who has Bread of Life' (FM 91.1) will be able to remained General Editor of the publications continue by means of tapes. Though Australia is a sports loving nation. However up to now there has been little thought given The very language used by some sports were: of the Banner of Truth Trust during this intended for South Sydney, the organisers of to how to evangelise or minister to sport's men and women. Rev. Mark Tronson has The IQ syndrome people, 'hate, killer instincts', etc. highlights Reverend David Tyndall (Rugby), Rainer period, is returning to Scotland in July. He ;his broadcast have been thankful to pioneered some thinking and work in this area and the ACR asked him to share with us the seriousness of the issue. Has regards his years at St. Giles as among the discover that it appears to reach many parts some of his insights. Ratinac (Squash), Betty Moore (Athletics), competition to be taken to the point where of the metropolitan area. Tom Treseder (Rowing), Brian & Bernice happiest of his life, both for the joy of I don't know who invented the blessed deepest of fools, and the child may be the language used seems more appropriate Tanswell & Bruce Townsend (Basketball), pastoral ministry in an evangelical The Murray family (two of whom are to words 'intelligence quotient' (shortened the wisest of all. The biblical criterion is Before putting pen to paper on this issue, for military battle or a Roman theatre of • competitiveness itself (business is Brett David (Surfing) and this author congregation and also for the opportunity remain in Sydney) are known enthusiasts (or to IQ), but whoever he was did not do gladiators? not IQ. I spent a number of agonising weeks similar). Is there value in competition! (hockey). (Representing people from South to be in NSW at a period when the Australia, and they anticipate seeing many the human race a great favour. I suppose In the Bible the fool is one who does thinking about the subject and how to Australia and Neyv South Wales). Australian Presbyterian Church is markedly Australian friends again as opportunities it was inevitable that we should try to not honour God. This is folly, because it approach it, and how inadequate whatever One alternative is growing stronger in her testimony to the to rationalise the As a result of that conference, on occur for visits in the future. measure intelligence; I suppose it was is based on the great untruth that there is I said; for Australian culture could be dilemma by saying: Word of God. reflection the Australian delegates noted Meanwhile, Mr. Murray continues as inevitable that we should try to do it no God in the world. The Bible says 'The summed up on the 'bumper sticker' "rd 2. A growing theology lain Murray has also had closer contact rationally; I suppose that some benefits rather be sailing". "To honour your opponent you must do these distinctives about sport ministries: Editor of The Banner of Truth magazine (11 testimony of the Lord is sure, making Having asked all those questions, the very best you can. You dishonour your • a personal commitment to 'love' each with ministers and students of various issues per year, available through 4 Patrick have come to us from the exercise, wise the simple.' The wisest man is the I attended an International Christian questions which have been about for some opponent, and God who has given you the other in fellowship was featured; denominations in Australia, New Zealand Street, Hurstville 2220). One of the It has long been recognised, however, one who knows God and his word and Sports Conference in Hong Kong 1982, and time in Christian thinking sporting circles, I talent (gift) you possess, if you perform • the brotherhood concept was and the Far East, and it is anticipated that immediate duties before him is the that in the hands of the non-expert (and serves him. it became readily evidenced that ministering don't think anyone has the answers yet, but below your known best, or your best on the highlighted — supporting your brother/ this will serve to strengthen the work of the completion of his biography of Dr. Martyn perhaps in the hands of the expert, too) This says something important about within 'sports' in Australia was as every bit day." sister in Christ because they Banner of Truth Trust in Australasia in days we are getting there and the following short are that, not Lloyd-Jones, the first volume of which, The these results can be abused. Some of us our children and us, doesn't it? Are you advanced and theologically sound as was because they play sport; to come. Mr. Murray's preaching at St. Giles appraisal suggests areas where we are First Forty Years, was published in 1982, have far too high an esteem for the IQ looking for the IQ? How much better that anything else seen and heard in the western working and thinking. Competitiveness is a means to maximise • the Australian Christian Ministry lacked during his period here is all available on and has been among the bestsellers in test and we tend to judge our children your child should be thoroughly world. ability. But what is the price to be paid? sports ministries; cassette tape (Catalogue available from Mr. Take Sport and Recreation, for example. Christian literature. and other people's children by any results acquainted with the word of God. Your What the Australian contingent found, • the need for theological reflection was John Currie, 4 Patrick Street, Hurstville The win/lose nature of such The ACR will publish an interview with we can glean about them. How we preen child may be average, brilliant, or dull: was this: our ministering roles within sports Sport has been described as a means of paramount; 2220). competitiveness has serious repercussions Mr. Murray in a future edition. ourselves on having a 'bright' child! How what difference? If they know the word where christians participated seemed to be recreation. This is, recreation of the body • strong emphasis on servanthood for both winner and loser, and in the very While his actual ministry at St. Giles down-cast we are, how ashamed, how they are wise; they know sin when they every bit as effective and perhaps more (fitness, rejuvenation, new life) and of the extreme competitiveness of top level sports Out of that conference three deflated to discover that our child is see it and they will avoid it; they will 'down-to-earth' realistic than the 'super-ego' mind (alertness, awareness). where winning is the only thing that really developments have occurred in an 'average' or even worse. How foolish we know when friends are leading them motifs of some of the situations that came to. This can be very important for our life, matters, there has to be a lot of losers. are, either way! Australian direction: astray and will resist They will be wiser our attention. improving our health, our sense of well What is the theologian to say on this News from SAMS The Bible agrees that men, women and than all the great ones of the world. Does being; part of realising our full humanity, 1. The Australian Christian Sports whole issue? children can be foolish or 'simple'; your child know the Bible? Have you 1. Theological questions necessary in our society, where we drive to Fellowship in its "unstructured" manner is Canberra Vow/Lula furthermore it agrees that this state is taught him God's Word? Has he seen it in In submitting this section, I make no work and our car precludes very often the undesirable. The foolish, simple person is your life? If the answer is no, you are physical exertion of walking. Our work Dr. Ted Newing recently appointed Rev. Greg and Mrs. Judy 131axland of pretence in answering all the questions. much to be pitied. But it does not tailing him. Forget his IQ—concentrate generally is not physically demanding, and Federal Secretary of SAMS engages in a SAMS left on Monday, 11 June, to head up But here are some of the questions: southern safari for the Society to the an Australian church planting team in measure simplicity by speed with the on his wisdom — teach him the Bible! we are generally a non-physically active multiplication table. Indeed, in its terms, Question of Conflict: society (apart from sport). Dioceses of Canberra-Goulburn, Caracas, Venezuela. They will be followed Peter Jensen • conflict between — pride in winning and Melbourne, Ballarat, Bendigo, Adelaide and in September by Mrs. Morna Bissett, form,' the greatest of intellectuals may be the achievement; Recreation is something that the Apostle Bathurst from June 22 through July 16. CMS missionary in Peru, Bolivia and Paul has something to say, for he speaks of • competitiveness and Christian love; Argentina. Already in Venezuela are Peter • giving all and being true to self, being a 'new creation' in Christ. Overtones and Val Clifford and Joan Ross. of this being 'made new' come across in the Question of Awareness of Limits: activities of sport and leisure, but of course World trip • the has beens; Paul took it to a new level, for it is 'in Christ' Dc Ted Newing of SAMS leaves on • those on the downward path after that the new creation is complete. peaking; 1 August 6 for a round the world trip. In AN OPEN LETTER TO SUBSCRIBERS OF THE Recreation can be part of having fun, of • the failures (those who consider August after a Conference in Seoul he AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD themselves to be such). enjoying life and activities with other hopes to negotiate in Singapore for the people. Obviously we need some deeper establishment of a SAMS base there. He wd Question of Distinctions: theological reflection about sport and visit his counterparts in UK, Canada and • coming first, or doing your best and leisure as recreation. USA. September and October he will visit coming last. In Australia sporting culture, Another example, SAMS missionaries in Venezuela, Brazil, the latter is 'failure' — what response Competitiveness in Sport. Argentina, Paraguay and Chile. On his \ On May 28th., we launched an appeal through an does the christian make?; home he will visit NZ SAMS. • stress — on such things as expectations, The issue of competition is a major one inserted letter from the directors of this paper. The conflict between work demands/study for christians in sport. It has theological and purpose of the appeal was to enable us to fund the future demands and training/preparation; personal dimensions to it. pressure to keep at a peak, etc.; One leading international sports person of the paper. • sports such as boxing, etc., where (tennis) said that once having become a NZ, Apartheid a 'heresy' physical damage is just part of the christian, it paralleled with a string of losses activity, part of the competitive nature of in crucial matches because no longer could The response to date has been encouraging to the extent The Anglican Province of New Zealand has Council of Churches, was not a primary the sport: she 'hall an opponent Mark Tronson become the first New Zealand Church to source of information upon which a synod that the directors feel led to continue with their declare officially that the system of could make a theological judgement. A final example, Evangelism and Sport. attempting to minister through its members, apartheid is "a heresy". investigations into the feasibility of the project. However, Later, after a debate on the mi.'s; of the In recent years in.the USA there has been in the sports those members are involved. The Church's forty-sixth General Synod, Eloff Commission, which was investigating as of this date the response has not been sufficient to peakt4L9 TO TRAVEL ? concern by 'thinking' christians involved in An initial attempt at a magazine, 'ACCESS' at Christchurch last month, endorsed the the affairs of the South African Council of cover the costs associated with the project. sports ministries, how many new christians proved exciting. 1983 WCC resolution that any theology Churches, the Synod resolved to send who are 'Sports Champions' are 'used' by 2. Brett Davis the Christian Surfers which supported or condoned apartheid "warm greetings" to the SASCC and its christian organisations, who think they are delegate at the conference has been was heretical. It also endorsed the view of general secretary, Bishop Desmond Tutu, doing God's work. The purpose of this letter is to let you, the readers, know INTERNATIONAL appointed as 'National Co-Ordinator' of the the Church of the Province of South Africa, assuring them of "our continued prayer and Se' Once the sports star has been 'used' for Christian Surfers in Australia, on a 'faith which declared the system to be a heresy support in their struggles against apartheid.' that we are currently pressing on, but that there is still a TRAVEL God and on the 'downhill' run of his/her support' basis. by passing a unanimous resolution in 1982. It was also agreed to ask the New career, past the 'peak', they are very often need for further donations/loans if the plans are to be ALLIANCE 3. The author in conjunction with the The Dean-elect of Christchurch, the Very Zealand Government to communicate to unceremoniously dumped, till the next star InterChurch Trade & Industry Mission (ITIM) Rev. D. J. Coles, told the Synod that the the South African Government "its own implemented. shines in the 'wilderness'. is ministering. motion was theological rather than political abhorrence to such pressure against a Is this an abuse rather than the use of International Travel Alliance has gained a wealth of 4. My own involvement and a matter of basic Christian doctrine. Christian organisation — and to call on the experience getting Missionaries to & from their strange persons? South African Government to allow the We have had no negative responses and would ask that and far away fields. You are now invited to avail I enter the sphere of sports ministries in The Synod agreed to support it, even No one doubts there is an evangelical Council to pursue its path of allegiance to yourself of the friendly service I.T.A. offers. two areas, that of a member of the though some members felt that a special you prayerfully considered what committment you are concern in sports ministry, and in some of the dictates of the gospel." Australian Christian Sports Fellowship, and paper entitled Apartheid as a Heresy, the South American countries, the sports prepared to offer this paper. through a new ministry part of the 'ITIM' prepared by the New Zealand National Church Time, 4,4e$ ministry is that to the spectators, with tracts ministry, initiating Chaplaincies in sporting 414 You have the advantage of our wide by the 'thousand' handed out, and street 7 organisations, called 'Sports & Leisure 24 , experience. Itle costsfre .Ween o more. 0ur airlinef l preaching 'carts' as the people line up for bookingservices are agents or l Ministry (ITIMI'. By order of the Board of Directors, r shipping, airline & coach operators. Your tickets ... (talk about captured audiences). As part of the Christian Sports Fellowship B.C.A. Youth Secretary Resigns itinerary can be tailored to your best advantage. It is presently claimed by some US sports Is accredited by the International Air Transport Assoc. I minister in my own sport of hockey. I write ministries, that within 20 years the US The Bush Church Aid Society has denominational organisation called Jesus (1.A.T.A.) hockey for the Sydney Daily Telegraph and R. Berkley, evangelist will be the sports star, and in that released a statement saying that Mr. Peter is Alive Ministries. He said that it :s under the 'Hockey Circle', the official organ of the culture it is happening now. The sprint Sinclair resigned as National Youth the auspices of Calvary Chapel. Chairman Australian Hockey Association. I'm the Secretary on 30th June. Mr. Sinclair is sensation of the decade, Carl Lewis, a very Greenacre. We assist with travel documentation, author of two books, 'Esanda's Hockey in active christian, gives testimonies on nation commencing work with a non- including passport, visas, advice on Australia' and 'Esanda's World Hockey', the 74dai' ta" ee health requirements. travellers wide television in his track interviews. cheques & Insurance. latter published in April 1984. CLASSIFIEDS Positions Vacant Again, there is a lot more homework to In each book are testimonies of christian Classified advertisements may be lea al Me office or phoned he done on Evangelism and Sport. CHRIST CHURCH ANGLICAN CHURCH SLACKTOWN to 264 8349 up to noon 14 days before date al publication . hockey players, this latest one that of Brian PARISH-YOUTH WORKER urgently needed lor large oartsh nut Charges 04 10 per column r onlimelre 3. Some Australian beginnings Booth. 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Church's part in PNG translation work ACR and China, by Roy Gwyther-Ames the view from the other side

In their publication "In Unity" the Australian 'Two church papers were particular!) Council of Churches discussed the visit of hostile to the delegation. The Australian the Chinese delegation. Included was a Church Record and New Life both printed Marriage or section on the media coverage. extensive articles on China, most of as I The ACC's view of what we wrote will revealed an unwillingness to be open tii prove of interest to our readers. change and alternative points of view and living together: were sometimes headed by remarkable Beyond the pale "Bishop Ting is a man of precision and honesty. It was largely he who took headlines such as the Australian Church new evidence responsibility for fielding questions from the Record's 'China Delegation — Christian or Cover Up?' and 'Local Chinese Upset over press on behalf of the group although in TSM Delegation.' public meetings and private discussions Lesley Hicks team members played equal roles in "Bishop Ting said he and Mr. Han were answering the many questions put to them. furious to read this. 'We were very warmly received by our fellow Chinese Christians in "Church press were, of course, Alan Craddock Sydey, Cairns and Canberra,' he said. particularly interested in the delegation's 'Elsewhere we didn't meet them except for visit. After such a long silence, many were some individuals here and there, and they eager to hear of developments in the all didn't seem to be upset.' Chinese Church since liberation. Yet it seemed many had also made judgements "However, Bishop Ting was not hesitant prior to the team's arrival and it was in coming forward and responding to disheartening to see, as Bishop Ting said, articles which either misrepresented the Many members of the St. Paul's Anglican the Wau area. There had been some 'that some people cannot be reconciled to Chinese Church or which presented an air 'There are certain things beyond the pale," was significant. The feminist women were Church, Carlingford have played an mission contact for many generations but the rightful existence of People's China. of hostility. Nor was he slow in his praise of About a year ago I dealt in this column with Mr. Wran is reported to have said after the angry and upset by what was shown. On important part in the production of the New this was the first complete translation of the were taken into account statistically, the Their hostility is extended to our church extensions of friendship and views concerning living together screening for State MPs of samples of videos the other hand, the men and women on the Testament for a language group in the New Testament in their own language. main findings still remained and hence there. See how unscrupulous they can be.' understanding." (cohabitation) compared to conventional currently available in NSW for home censorship board, except for Chief Censor reale highlands of Papua New Guinea: could not be accounted for simply by these At the dedication a drama group depicted marriage (ACR 11-7-831. I referred to a viewing. The question is, where will that Mrs. Janet Strickland, now retired, seemed over the past 22 years they have prayed for not unexpected group differences. the first Lutheran missionaries bringing the research paper which indicated that boundary fence, beyond which is total to show by their leniency and blase attitude and supported their fellow members One can speculate as to why the gospel in Kate, a church language. Next marriage, after cohabitation, had not been unacceptability for this community, be the inevitable desensitization caused by the Maurice and Helen Boxwell of Wycliffe cohabiting couples were so significantly less came the Melanesian Pidgin version of the made easier by the trial period since higher placed? job — that's if they were not already Bible Translators. satisfied and perceived lower New Testament but still most of the people average levels of marital adjustment were A few years ago, thanks largely to the extremely permissive in order to be chosen Their faithfulness was rewarded on June 9 Joni to visit Australia communciation quality compared to the could not understand it. Now that it has obtained by couples who had not lived alerting work of the Festival of Light in for it in the first place. when the Weri New Testament was other couples. It is possible to argue that arrived in their own language the way has together compared to previously cohabiting bringing about public awareness and dedicated in Sim village in the Morobe Joni Eareckson-Tada is to slit Australia in A movie version of her tirst book, cohabiting couples tend to have their been opened to a thorough understanding married couples. (Watson, R. "Pre-marital protest, child pornography was banned in Permissive guidelines ' Province of PNG. Aug.-Sept. this year. Details have been produced by World Wide Pictures fthe doubts about marriage, themselves or their of the gospel. cohabitation vs traditional courtship. Their Australia at all levels, thank God. So is There are two major problems here. One released by Mr. Kevin Crack: evangelistic film outreach of the Billy partner. Thus they regard the trial period as It was the fulfilment of a long-term effects on subsequent marital adjustment" bestiality, but very little else, it seems. is that the Film Censorship Board's The cost of printing the New Testaments "In June of 1967, at the age of 1Z Joni Graham Association), in which Joni portrays a means of removing doubt. This lack of commitment for Maurice and Helen. For Family Relations, 1983, 32, (1), 139-147) 'Detailed and gratuitous acts of significant guidelines for classification seem far too years they were dogged by ill health and was underwritten jointly by the World Eareckson was voted the most outstanding her own role, has received world wide confidence could stem from the fact that I argued then that psychologically, living cruelty; explicit and gratuitous acts of sexual permissive in where they draw the line in had to spend an extended period in Home Bible League and friends from the girl athlete in her high school graduating acclaim. some signs of incompatibility are already together is different from marriage, and that violence against non-consenting persons" every category from G to X and beyond. Australia when Maurice was recovering congregation at St. Paul's, Carlingford. class. In order to respond effectively to the present and that the cohabiting group is a adjustment to marriage can only be are ostensibly banned, but it is hard to see Therefore in categories R and X at least are from a tropical virus disease. Nearly 300 copies were sold within three ministry that has opened up to Joni through less confident and less compatible group to Tragedy! properly achieved within the framework of how else some material permitted within films and tapes which no society concerned days of the dedication. her books and the movie, she has begun a begin with. When the Boxwells arrived in Sim village attitudes, values and expectations which the X rating can be described. There are no for real quality control would countenance One month later, a reckless dive into the non-profit organisation, Joni and Friends. If this is true, the trial period might simply limits on language, none on blasphemy. in 1962 they were almost the first Europeans The Weri New Testament is the 42nd to apply to marriage. The question remains in any form — certainly not for intimate Chesapeake Bay left this active honours This new venture is based in California and accentuate this incompatibility and the to make contact with the Weri people. They be completed by Wycliffe Bible Translators however, are couples who cohabit just as The Record of May 14 dealt very fully home viewing, whether or not they could student paralysed from the shoulders down seeks to counsel, help and reach those who couple will separate or it will simply were scattered in 30 mountain villages in in Papua New Guinea. satisfied as married couples as long as they with the facts of this issue, with material be accessible to children. without the use of her hands or legs. suffer. postpone the process of forming and giving Hospitalised for the next two years, Joni don't to transform cohabitation into supplied by FOL and followed up by the The ministry of Joni and Friends has expression to a relationship characterized Rotating censors began developing a latent artistic talent by marriage? editor. The editorial, while commending the expanded further recently with a program by trust and commitment. The latter process Secondly, some meaures are needed to learning to sketch with a pen held between It is almost impossible to satisfactorily work of a watchdog body like the FOL, broadcast daily over 200 radio stations and can lead to couples deciding to marry, no counteract the deadening effects of her teeth, research this question since it is hardly fair pointed out that its effectiveness is limited Bible Society V1i'eek the Moody satellite. It is estimated that there better informed or adjusted than they were to compare the "performance" of the two unless the churches as a whole, and the vast pornography's assaults on the sensibilities of In the years since her paralysis, she has are over two million regular listeners. before they started living together. When numbers of apathetic individual Christians censors. Perhaps the task needs to be Bible Society Week, July 28 to August 5, is crucial role the Bible Society is playing in patiently worked to develop her unusual groups (married vs cohabiting) since their they do marry their doubts and basic back up that work by living more consistent constantly rotated amongst a cross-section the climax of the Bible Society's yearly church growth. technique and at the same time has shared Seminar Series iibjectives and standards of success are differences hinder the process of making a of the public, like jury service. likely to be quite different. One simply lives, and by speaking up. Only then can a promotional effort, this year based on the . her vibrant faith in Jesus Christ with people A special program that Joni is presently good marital adjustment. In South-East Asia, there are more than annot regard their different criteria for Government be compelled, even against theme Focus on South-East Asia. all over the world. She signs her work, loni spearheading is her "People Plus" Seminars. Another possibility is that cohabiting Therapeutic? Harmless? 200 million people, yet only about five per success and satisfaction as equivalent. the ideology of some of its leaders, to act to Churches of many different PTL", which stands for "Praise The Lord" — These are designed to help build awareness couples have their doubts because they restrain wickedness and vice. Besides, there cent are Christian. Senator Evans holds the theory that denominations will be celebrating the week she wants the credit to go to the One who and practical guides in ministry to disabled However, this comparison could turn out have very high expectations. Could are thousands of troubled, decent people certain sexually deprived (depraved?) with special services, some having guest is the source of her creativity. people. to be not only misleading but somewhat The task of making the Bible available to cohabiting couples expect more from their outside the churches prepared to deplore individuals need pornography for its speakers telling the story of what the Bible pointless. Research evidence from the USA all people at a price they can afford is Joni's visit to Australia is the result of a relatoinships? If so filly will be more likely the proliferation of porn, but not knowing "therapeutic" qualities. On the other hand, Society is doing in the translation, Her first book indicates that the majority of cohabiting staggering and it is hoped that Christians long-standing invitation issued by Christian to be more disappointed and less satisfied any way of effective protest. who knows how many more Truro-type couples do intend to consider marriage and production and distribution of the Bible. In 1976 the Zondervan Publishing House Youth Travel. Australians are fortunate to than non-cohabiting couples. murders the murderer had quantities of around Australia will respond to the need that they do regard cohabitation as a trial Some supporters will be holding special released the book loni". It has now been have her visit here as this will be only her But they might also fear more. Perhaps Four Corners on porn bondage-type pornographic magazines) will and the challenge presented in this for marriage. Two examples of such studies functions to increase awareness of the important week. read by millions in nearly 40 different second overseas tour. they have been exposed to very negative The Four Corners programme of June 9th result from sick minds feeding on cruel and are: Macklin, E. D. "Heterosexual languages. views and models of marriage. This fear dealing with pornographic videos must violent video images, and going on to act cohabitation among unmarried college leads to caution and doubt and hence to a have alerted a great many more people to them out? Apparently the stuff is addictive students". Family Coordinator, 1972, 21, strong desire to test the relationship first the menace. For me, the horror of what was for many, and a taste once acquired 463-472; Lewis, RA, et al "Commitment in before making a final commitment. But this glimpsed on that programme will always be becomes obsessively demanding. The National apostasy available New Dean of Newcastle married and unmarried cohabitation" caution can lead to an unnatural and incongruously associated with the fun of proportion of porn videos being hired is Sociological Focus, 1977, 10, 367-373. Dean Graeme Lawrence commenced his unrealistic style of relationship which stems fireworks. Outside, while my husband and I estimated at 25% of the whole and growing Last October, in our special Reformation gave them the English address we also 1963 he entered St. John's College at ministry in Newcastle at a service on 29th Marriage is their goal and the question of from a fear of failure, undue avoidance of were watching it in the line of duty, our The field is a favourite for the Issue, we published a supplement from the promised to obtain limited numbers of Morpeth to study theology and was June in Christ Church Cathedral. He was the adequacy of the trial period as a means teenage son and friend were celebrating entrepreneurial activities of organised Protestant Reformation Society. Included in ordained as a priest in 1966. any kind of conflict and little real openness copies for our readers. These have now Installed as Dean of Newcastle and of ensuring a sound choice of partner and cracker night with a selection of colourful crime. it was reference to a booklet called between the partners. This can't last arrived. They are available to those who are Inducted as Rector of the Cathedral parish, good marital adjustment is a critical issue for fireworks. Whenever I could no longer bear "National Apostasy". In a later issue we Bishop Holland said that Dean Lawrence however and the process does little to aid If we wish to foster a cruel society we al first to send for them. They cost $1.20 each by the Bishop of Newcastle, the Right such couples. to watch what was on the screen I could reviewed that booklet, recommending it as will make a fine contribution to the life of adjustment to a life-long marital going about it the right way, by allowing this includes postage). Reverend Alfred Holland. look out the window and see their laughing a valuable addition to our thinking on the Christ Church Cathedral and to the It is clear that the adequacy of a trial relationship. such food for people's fantasies. National Apostasy: 150 Years of the young faces lit up by cascades of colour. state of our Church today. Dean Lawrence was till recently community of Newcastle. He is a priest with period depends upon what is being aimed I'll let Dr. Maris and Leslie have the last Oxford Movement is a lecture delivered by Archdeacon of the Riverina and Dean of the for in the long run. If it is marriage, and In that programme the cameras and Action A number of readers enquired about warmth and love for people while having word: "While other sociologists have D. N. Samuel and we highly recommend it. Cathedral in Griffith. He was born in Sydney marriage is structurally and psychologically microphones were trained on two groups of We need to bombard both Federal and obtaining copies of the booklet. Whilst we great ability in the area of administration, suggested that cohabitation can serve as an and grew up there. He is 41 years old. In different from cohabitation, it should come viewers of film showing scenes of rape and State governments with reasoned teaching and liturgical organisation. effective training period for marriage or . . as no surprise that cohabitation does not violence — the Commonwealth censors complaints; the Federal Government will result in improved mate selection ... enhance subsequent marital adjustment. engaged in classifying the material, the because of the inadequate guidelines and these contentions are not supported by the women from the feminist group, Women attitude of censors, and their responsibility WANTED A recent study from the University of data. The evidence accumulated to date Against Violence. The difference in reactions for Customs controls, and the States whose Nebraska, USA provides further evidence would indicate that, while living together task is to enforce classifications and point or that cohabitation does not necessarily before marriage is increasingly becoming a sale or hire controls. I understand that produce higher levels of marital adjustment common phase of courtship, cohabitation STAINED GLASS WINDOWS Queensland, Tasmania and Western compared to couples who have not has no particular advantage over more K. J. Little Australia have all banned X-rated videos. cohabited: De Maris, A. and Leslie, G. R. traditional practices in assuming couple But unless all the States do the same, the "Cohabitation with the future spouse: Its compatibility in marriage." (p. 83). No, I'll 19 J3arden Street only result will be flourishing border- influence upon marital satisfaction and have the last word, I'd go further. 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Sherlock As far as I understand it, it does. hopeless) You will not normally find defenders of the ordination-of-men-only Al our invitation, knowing that the ACR is a positional paper, the Movement for the Ordination of Women kindly agreed to discuss Forsyth Why? saying that, but the implication is sometimes the theological issues raised by their current moves to have women ordained for christian ministry on the same basis as men. By Charles Sherlock is a lecturer at Ridley College, Melbourne. Woodhouse What about the Monday of his got across. agreement, so as to enable critical questions to be raised and answered by all concerned we set up the discussion in the form of Robert Forsyth is Rector of St Barnabas' Broadway, serving the University of incarnate life, and the Tuesday of his a debate. We are presenting the debate in four parts. Susanne Glover is a graduate in theology from Moore College and London University, is doing One preliminary paper we all read in post graduate research at the University incarnate life? I don't mean to be ridiculous The ACR wishes to unreservedly thank the participants for the generous way of Sydney, and serves in her local church. preparation for this discussion comes close in which they gave not only of their time, but also . . . but you are saying that a person cannot to this point of view when it says: 'Thus of themselves. Gordon Preece is Curate at Christ Church, Blacktown in the western area of Sydney. John Woodhouse is a lecturer at Moore College, Sydney. he fully subordinate and fully God — Christ when God is spoken of in scripture, or but rather that the Father is the Father and Father literally Father or metaphorically manhood. Elsewhere he is always called cannot be fully subordinate and fully God when he became incarnate in human form not the Son. Quite often, I think, the Father? anthropos Sherlock That Christ has his origin in God. deity are unless the moment before that he is masculine because he displays the (human being) or son of the very texts which also claim solution in which every text 'clicks'. I don't difference between subordination and Woodhouse This has only got to do with subordination he was not subordinate. male attributes par excellence as these are Forsyth Metaphorically. anthropos and so on. The important point subordination, why must you then say "no, think that is a particularly biblical way to particularity is confused. origin, nothing to do with subordination or distinct in the male/female polarity. To is that Jesus became human. But the world they are inconsistent", if in Jesus' mind they exegete. In contrast, look at the way the Sherlock It is not the moment before, People think that in the classical doctrine Sherlock Then, he isn't a father? into which Jesus became human is anything like that? creation at large, God is neither masculine seem to be not inconsistent, but two sides Canon develops in the Old Testament, or because remember that we are talking as if of the Trinity God has "three persons" who of the one coin? time nor feminine. To mankind he is masculine Forsyth That's right, I ... conditioned, not so much by culture as by Sherlock It is one thing to talk about the way the New develops the Old. was a constraint upon God. I think you are fully equal and yet, two of them are sin. will recognise that. We are saying that you (though the scriptures do not affirm that he Sherlock Well, that's a difficult position. subordination in terms of Christ's earthly Sherlock I am not saying they are subordinate, as an illustration of how you But there is a substantial picture of God cannot have permanent essential is male but uses the masculine pronouns) mission and in terms of Christ bringing inconsistent, I am saying there are two sides can put equality and subordination Forsyth No it's not. being revealed and growing in biblical and in Jesus he became incarnate as a God's kingdom to completion when he will to the one coin. But only the one who is subordination without there being .1 together. Yet that is not the classical revelation, and it is within that framework man." Sherlock Classical orthodoxy is that neither hand it over to the Father. It is quite another eternally as God, as any other member of distinction in ontological being. doctrine of the Trinity, which is that we have that individual texts ate to be intepreted. As of these alternatives is right. It is the Different approaches to doing thing to project that back into eternity or the Trinity is, can fully and joyfully submit or Yesterday, however, being Mothers' Day I three "persons" of whom none is afore and I read the scriptures in the light of the whole relationship of filialness and the ... theology better, out into eternity. Now, I know that subordinate to the will of the entire Trinity. heard an excellent sermon on "Our Mother none is after, but who are different. The classical tradition it seems to me that the Permanent voluntary Forsyth That's a relationship of this is a metaphysical exercise which is That's the question here. in heaven". The person preaching asked Father could not have become incarnate. Forsyth The fundamental difference major picture there is of God revealed in subordination subordination. dangerous. But I am equally aware from the -Who is it who is always there when we Why? I do not know except that the between us goes way way back in "the Forsyth No. No. It's the will of the Father such a way as to intimate that human Christian tradition that to come to any other Forsyth Can you have permanent volitnt.i,‘ need them?" "Who is responsible for Sherlock No it's not. It's a relationship that history of how we do theology." that is crucial, I stand against you here. beings made in the divine image are scriptural revelation leads you to that conclusion in the long run undermines the subordination? bringing us into the world?" "Who cares for is a human analogy given to us by God in brought into relationships with each other conclusion. There would be a whole Sherlock Oh yeah. genuineness of our Lord's deity, which as It is in his sonship, not in his humanity us?" "Who is ready to hear us when we the scriptures which is the least distorting. in Christ by the Spirit. This is such that Sherlock Yes. different reality if it wasn't the Son who you are obviously familiar, will undermine that he subordinates the Father. It is have got complaints?" Well, from one point Forsyth It goes historically right back, and permanent structural bars to their ministry became incarnate. So if the distinctions Forsyth Of a reality which includes the reality of our salvation. because he is Son, not because he is simply Forsyth Great. of view its "super mum", but from another my claiming of Luther to my sides suggests to each other distort the larger picture, even within the Trinity are to be preserved they in sub6rdination. human. Woodhouse Well, that is what we believe point of view we could equally be talking a sharp distinction in our approaches to Woodhouse This is at the heart of what we though there are small texts in the New no way can have anything to do with Sherlock Well, that's true, but the point is there is. about God. It is not a question of talking Sherlock It transcends our ... theology. That is whether you let the word are talking about of course, because you Testament which go against that main flow. subordination. Subordination within the that in being Son he is not subordinate, or about God being "female". run you, or you try and get behind the can't see equality and subordination And as I have already intimated and Forsyth That's what we believe is to be Son. Trinity is a subordination in the "economic" "Maleness, femaleness" and God word. together in deity, you can't see equality of else he is not the Son. It is simply saying that God's attributes order, that is, in history when Jesus came for discussed, I think there are ways of reading Sherlock But you see, to say therefore that Forsyth You see, I stand with Luther when us and for our salvation. My problem is that I hear you really saying, "The Bible is man and woman and headship. Forsyth That's wrong. That's the challenge. those texts in the light of that main flow. women are to be permanently voluntary transcend out maleness and femaleness. We he said "God in his own majesty and being are made in God's image, not the other way Christians try to build a reasonable case for conditioned to our sinful world, we can and Forsyth Exactly. Woodhouse I want Charles to correct me if subordinate to all men is to lake the word we cannot know, but only as clothed in his A code behind the Bible? round. Now, I hope that is common maintaining some sort of "headship" priority must therefore in a sense read the code, I have misunderstood him. I understand "voluntary" away. word." and get behind the text. If it says God is Different world views ACR May I ask a question? Charles, is God ground. of fathers over the family, and then ministers you to be saying that if the Son is Further, the Father in another sense is father, and yet of course we know he isn't in himself as he is towards us? over the congregation, by taking such And I want to go back to the first point Sherlock But if I can put another plea in we subordinate to the Father then he is less voluntarily subordinate to the Son and The Trinity priority back into God. They end up also, I am not committed to defending the a father, says he changes his mind, well we are talking about "world building". The Sherlock As we perceive it, yes. than God? Spirit, that is the whole doctrine of maleness of God. know he doesn't change his mind . . It When you come to the doctrine of the compromising the very classical doctrines of world that I see built by those who are Now, theologically for us in our situation Sherlock If that is meant as eternal and perichoresis, or "mutual interdependence" says all this but we really know." Now I am Trinity, the church began by realising that God that over centuries were thought out Sherlock That was a clearing ground point. defending the exclusion of women from the permanent. in the Trinity. very nervous of that sort of approach. it appears to me unwise to go talking, to they confessed Jesus Christ as Lord and to defend Salvation. presbyterate requires a structure of Forsyth But I disagree with the conclusion praying to God as mother. But it does not Woodhouse Are you saying that for the Forsyth I agree with you, as long as you God. Such confession was made because it headship, and a number of other things, you drew. Sherlock So am I, I would reject that seem to me to be wrong. And the period of time that he is subordinate to the have the words "in a sense" . was necessary for salvation to be real, which eventually to me builds up almost an important thing after all to remember with Eternal equality and subordination Sherlock Which was? operation. Father he is less than God? Sherlock The subordinate element is because only God can save, and it is human alternative world-view. It is a different way Jesus' use of the word Father is that the Forsyth For the life of me I can see no Sherlock No. something which is a mutual service of all beings who need to be saved. Therefore Forsyth Can I reply? Forsyth I think there is a reason why the of looking at the world. "Father" is the intimate sort of "daddy reason why what is a massive stream of the members in their Trinity to each other. Jesus Christ needed to be both true God Sherlock If you understand the difference scriptures talk more of God as "he" than Woodhouse I am sure that in the end that element". That seems to me to be the key Woodhouse Then, how can he be fully God evidence at every level of tradition in the and truly human. The early churches were between particularity and subordination ... "she" and that that has some, I am not quite is right. That's why our differences are so thing. The Son cannot subordinate himself and subordinate to the Father for a period Forsyth Yes. faced with the question: how do we think sure exactly how and why, but that has New Testament — of Jesus in his most Forsyth That's the challenge I am going to great. to the will of the Father, or as I think you of time, but yet, can't be eternally? Sherlock So you have the wonderful of the relationship between Jesus Christ the some significance. There is something intimate moments.of the prayer of John 17, make, I agree with you that they are Sherlock And in the long run it all impinges will find if you go into classical theology, the Sherlock That is the mystery of the cross understanding of the "mutual indwelling Son of God — as related in the divine particularly inappropriate with "God our the prayer of Matthew 11, the most intimate different. upon a different understanding of God. I will of the whole Trinity, unless the Son is and the incarnation. the divine Persons, which is the basis of nature — to the Father? mother". Perhaps one day "mother" will be moments of a relationship between Father have to simply say that when I realised that fully equal and not subordinate. perichoresis. But why cannot subordination be part of so transformed we might loose whatever is and Son, saying "Abba Father", which is his Woodhouse Well, it's the mystery of the They came up with slogans like, 'The Son the difference? Why cannot Jesus' inappropriate. unique phrase and is subordination in — and I reflected long and seriously — I ACR One more question, and then John. Is Godhead, surely? You are saying there is no Woodhouse. Yes, but it is not symmetrical, is equal to the Father as touching his deity, statement of his own relationship with the tremendous love — is not to be taken to be have to say that the gospel as I read it in the God more in himself than he is towards us? logical contradiction between Jesus being that is to say that the Father is not the Son, inferior to the Father as touching his Sherlock Yes, exactly. But why is it the Bible Father when on earth mirror an eternal true in the heavenly, eternal sphere. Jesus is Bible is about a God who is a unity in And if your answer is yes, from whence do God in his incarnate life and submitted to and the Son is not the Father. humanity", from the Athanasian Creed. Or is not exclusively masculine in its diversity. God, who in the divine harmony relationship? Why must that be excluded? I not just being a human being at this point. you get that information? Is he more in the Father in his incarnate life ... Sherlock Oh exactly. That's important, the again, 'That Father, Son and Holy Spirit be terminology for God. It is certainly and fellowship calls us to a mode of mutual himself than he is towards us? am not saying that it is the case, but why I believe that reflects the very essence of Sherlock There is every logical particularity is important. all three equal, the glory the same, the overwhelmingly so, but not exclusively. submission within a co-operative society, an could not the very essence of fatherhood be Sonhood, and I don't see for the life of me Sherlock I have to say it is a question that contradiction majesty co-equal, and there is neither one Forsyth Yes, that's right. organism, rather than a God who calls us to Woodhouse Yes, so you can have an to give in love and to command in love? why that would deny Jesus being "God I do not like being asked. The fundamental afore nor one after in this Trinity." discipleship and submission within a Woodhouse Right, if you say they cannot asymmetrical relationship with equality. And the very essence of sonship even from Sherlock The answer is simply (as with all from God, light from light, true God from thing is that God is incomprehensible, God hierarchically structured society; although in be both true at the same time. Can they So they came to see that the New eternity be to receive and to obey? Why these arguments we have had), conditioned true God." That is one of the wonders of is God. I don't think we should even begin Sherlock Oh yes, that is not denying that a sinful world obviously some form of both he true at the same time? Testament confessed, on the one hand, can't his words on earth: "my meat is to do upon the fact that we are in a fallen the gospel, all of Jesus claims to deity never to think about asking those sorts of males are males and females are females. organisation and hierarchy is necessary. But that's quite a different thing from saying Christ as Lord and God in the same sense in the will of him who sent me"; be a creation. It is sin which introduces point to himself so much as to a relationship questions. In his incarnate life was Jesus fully-God which the Father and the Spirit are. And on and at the same time subordinate to his therefore one has to be subordinate to the reflection of the divine reality? Why would domination and it is ... to another. Forsyth This fundamental difference has Forsyth It is exactly what you are doing, the other, the New Testament insists that that be precluded from the particularity? I come out now in our view of God. Father? other permanently. Forsyth But there is another answer also. Sherlock Oh yes, that's quite true. Charles. You have gone behind the text, and Christ had "for us and for our salvation am not saying it is the essence of Sherlock Oh, yes. you have told us that when Jesus' says, "the Sherlock Yes. Forsyth Can you have voluntary come down from heaven": in his incarnate particularity, but why must subordination be Sherlock Just a minute. Oh I know there is Forsyth It is a relationship of equality as to subordination with equality? Father loved the Son and has given all Woodhouse Why is it impossible, life and work he submitted himself to the excluded from particularity? another answer, that it somehow reflects touching his Godhead, but it is not a Forsyth See, I don't know how it is that you things into hands, my food is to do his will," Sherlock In a sense it is the only way you whole Triune Godhead's will. Putting those something in God. relationship of equality of function. And know more! theologically impossible, for that which was Sherlock Because as the fathers saw very you said "that looks like, for all intended can have equality. If there isn't equality you two things together they ended up saying Forsyth That's right. trying to get beyond the Bible to some sort You know what is going on behind the true in his incarnate life, to be true for clearly in the 4th century, if the Son is less purposes, a statement of a relationship, but eternity? can't have voluntary subordination. that God acts in a Triune way which is of pure understanding by saying that "this is scenes, I've only got what is on the stage, in rank to the Father permanently, the Son Sherlock But if you are going to take the No, no, it is the incarnate Son that says this, suborcjinationist, but God is in a Triune way just because of sin ..." It is not just sin, it Sherlock Because it could not have been Forsyth Right. My claim is, that for all is less in being than the Father, and classical tradition seriously, that is fraught and I've only got Jesus talking to the Father. and really in eternity it's different." Now, which is not subordinationist. Unless these is the way things always are. It may be that possible in his incarnate life unless it were eternity, not merely for the sake of the therefore the Son is less than God in being. with all sorts of difficulties, the main one That's all I've got. When I see that, I see him you are reading, I believe actually imposing two things are held in tension you couldn't the reason why God is described in male true in eternity. incarnation — (which of course now And it comes out as clearly as that. Its like being that we are forced in the long run to, not merely saying, "for the sake of them I do full justice to salvation. terms rather than female terms might be not (nonetheless for good philosophical reasons continues by the way, Jesus continues as the distinction between the temporal and in some sense, make God in our image. And become a man", but especially if you read as I think the early fathers did) an alien Woodhouse We have been affirming that it because of sin, it could actually be the incarnate, and creates difficulties on your What I fear is that in current discussion of the eternal missions of the Spirit. the scriptural revelation of God is something John, the theme is "the Father". 'The structure ... is true in eternity. reality. view about the present relationship) — from "headship", which is not a biblical word, which comes about because of our fallen Father" is the whole theme of John's Forsyth I read your earlier article on this Sherlock It is not an alien structure. What I Sherlock No, no, no. It would not be eternity the Son's delight was to do the will though the phrase "head" is, people try to plight. In other words, God saves in order to Sherlock I know, but that is the whole Gospel, not 'Jesus alone", Jesus in some and remember thinking: no, as I read John am doing is adopting a theological . possible for him to be subordinate in his of the Father. In the creation of the world, prove too much. By insisting that the reveal, rather than reveals in order to save. problem. You are then saying that there is special way. and Paul I am convinced you cannot be incarnate life unless he were not and before there was a world, the Father husband is the head of the wife, and God is an eternal hierarchy to creation because At every point where Jesus makes a claim Forsyth Getting behind the New Testament. right that there is a relationship between the Forsyth I have some real difficulty with this subordinate in eternity. was constantly loving the Son and giving all the head of Christ, they reach the point there is an eternal hierarchy to God. for his deity, there are also claims for his Father and the Son very different from the issue ... Woodhouse I don't see ... things into his hands, the Son was always where the "there is none afore and none joyful and glad and non dignity-destroying, Sherlock ... I am adopting a theological relationship I see before me in John's Forsyth Yes, I am. responding in love to the Father and doing after in the Trinity" becomes questioned or Sherlock So that coming to the incarnation, life fulfilling, subordination to the one rather than a logical method of exegesis. Sherlock That's the whole point. Gospel, or in Paul's discussion of the Christ it is not that Christ became a male which is Sherlock I really must say that I just find that And this is perhaps an important nub here. his will. compromised. For example, Elizabeth Elliott whom he calls "the Father". And in fact, he Forsyth I can't see it. Why? Why on earth "through whom" are all things, the Father significant. The only one text in the New horrifying. I mean that really is questioning in Southern Cross was asked, "Is there a goes as far as to say that "the doing of the Where the Arians made their mistake, and I would you say that? ACR We are now going to move on to the "for whom" are all things. Further, in 1 Cor. Tesatment is Christ referred to as male, and the whole structure of the classical hierarchy in the Trinity?" She said, "Yes." For will of the Father is his life". Not a believe where many modern evangelicals next issue. Now, John and Susan, who 11 we read that "the head of Christ is God". that is in Ephesians 4:13 where it says that understanding of Christian revelation. are making their mistake, is they are Preece Are you saying that's in terms of the wants to start first on headship? a theologian who knows his or her business All these references are talking about a concession. It is his very meat, his very "we should all grow up into full manhood" Woodhouse What do you understand by exegeting the Bible as if it were a jigsaw of very voluntary nature of sub-ordination? that is a statement which gets you into a lot present relationship. food. You are denying that . . . of hot water. and believe it or not the word is male "the head of Christ is God?" propositions which have to be fitted Sherlock Yes. Footnote I don't believe that subordination ought Sherlock I am not. But it is one thing ... together until everything clicks. Now, the early church fathers did make a Preece And that it must be based on an to be excluded, because, as you point out Forsyth Why can't the Son's subordination The MOW Committee insist that the word used Propaganda in You often see this in discussions. You set ontological, fundamental equality? distinction between the Father and the Son, subordination is very broad, it just means Schools be (407nal' If the very texts which claim was 'Motherhood". Two transcribers have on the grounds of what they called all the texts out, and you get a sort of "to order under the order". I believe from Are You Concerned? Sherlock There is no meaningful independently concluded that the word is as "particularity". The eastern churches insist all eternity the Son subordinates himself to subordination without the ontological printed "mother". The editor, after listening to the tape at a slower speed, although noting that that the Father is arche, the origin, the the order of a father/son relationship. And I equality of the one who subordinates. NATIONAL EDUCATION the speech is not fully distinct is satisfied with source of deity from which the Son and the think that the creed has caught that. Forsyth Well, I agree with that. Spirit proceed or are begotten. The point is the transcribers' conclusion. "Eternally begotten,, God from God, light Woodhouse We will go along with that. not that the Father is superior to the Son, from light, very God from very God," those CONFERENCE Forsyth We agree with that. distinctions imply a total equality of the Theme: PROVERBS 22:6 Speakers- PROF. L. CHIPMAN, deity, and I assure you I am not an Arian. Woodhouse That is the very thing we are (Next time, in the final segment♦ the REMOVALS And yet why must subordination be DR. J. WHITEHALL & affirming, ontological equality, that he is debate looks at 1 Corinthians 11 Small or Large precluded? others fully God and the question of headship). STORAGE-PACKING TAXI TRUCKS Sherlock Where does the creed put it? See at BAPTIST THEOLOGICAL COLLEGE Sherlock Take this argument further and you must conclude that it is up to particular Reasonable and Reliable it says, "for us and for our salvation he 120 HERRING ROAD, EASTWOOD Bill Worner THE AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, Edi- came down." women to say whether they are to be • SMITH ON/ENS SERVICE Dates: 3rd-5th AUGUST, 1984 torial and Business, First Floor, St. Forsyth Oh yes, I am not denying that. I am Mittagong subordinate in such a way as they will not Andrew's House, Sydney Square, Sydney 9 PIONEER AVE., THORNLEIGH Entry by Registration only offer for ordination; rather than for 2000. This is a National paper issued Phone 84 6467 just saying that the essence of sonship, the phone (048) 711044 A/1-1: L. Owens 48 1539 essence of sonhoodship is subordination, Please phone (02) 467 2179 or (02) 498 4415 particular men to say they may not. fortnightly on alternate Mondaya. Subscrip- MAZDA and Volkswagens — Sales and Services SP0.60RED aY FESTIVAI OF Woodhouse Keep that on the agenda. tion is $16.00 per year, posted. Sherlock If I can ask a dirty question, is the Printed by J. Bell & Co. Pty. Ltd., 13 It still seems to me that for "tomorrow" 6 — AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, JULY 9, 1984 McCauley Street, Alexandria, N.S.W. 2015. Jesus to be subordinate to the will of God,

AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, JULY 9, 1934 — 7 4,1 LETTERS Sexist psychology Crabb not booked out Rabaul sit uation An I; priludiCe?

Dear Sir, Dear Sir, Dear Sir, Dear Sir, In reply to your editorial, Tune 11,1 must protest The visit to Sydney in July and August of Dr. Recently I visited Rabaul, New Britain, in Papua Your report on the NSW Anti Discrimination your assumption that the principle of liberation is Larry Crabb is arousing great interest. New Guinea. Board's rulings on Religious Conviction 111/6/841 is the governing Hermeneutic of MOW. In fact, the indeed alarming, and I look forward to your "full governing principle of MOW is the same as your However, his lectures are not booked out as Rabaul has received a lot of attention from the critical review" in ACR's next issue. Until then I AGREEMENT AT LAST own — the Doctrine of God, and you suggested in your article dated June 11th media in view of an anticipated volcanic eruption. misunderstanding that actually distorts our (page 12). The last serious eruption, which took many lives suggest ANTI DISCRIMINATION is a misnomer position. Liberation is an important aspect of NT and caused widespread damage, was in 1937. and should be ANTI PREJUDICE. Life itself is an The three Level I lectures at Summer Hill duly exercise in discrimination and if the Board's aim is teaching with relevance to women as also is The discussion with MOW over the theological implications of their current move 21), Figtree (July 23, 24) and Blacktown (July 25, On my recent visit it was a pleasure to meet to destroy Christianity, it could ban the Bible Augustine reconciliation and mutual submission. 261 still have hundreds of vacancies. again the Dean and Rector of Rabaul, the Very to have women ordained to the ministry on the same grounds as men has not which is discriminatory throughout Had they A generation later, in the western church, Augustine no longer places John 5:19 With respect however, the Doctrine of the Unfortunately, the Level II residential school is Rev. John Farrant and his wife Marjory, who are in added the legal term WITHOUT PREJUDICE been an easy one — But at last, towards the end of this segment as the under the heading of "form of Man" meaning simply Jesus subordination to the Trinity provides the framework for the Doctrine of completely booked out and there is an extensive their seventh year of missionary service in Papua which means "without impairing any preexisting participants discussed the Doctrine of the Trinity, an important agreement has God but it is not the sum of its contents. What New Guinea. Father in his human nature. Now, Augustine insists that although Jn 5:19 does waiting list. right", it would put the Church on safer ground. you referred to in passing is what is pastorally been reached. Both sides now agree that you can nave permanent voluntary Applicants to Level 1 lectures should write to The Anglican Parish Church in Rabaul, which is Yours in anticipation, speak of Jesus in "the form of Man", it directly tells us that the Christ, the eternal crucial to the ordination debate and that is the subordination within the Godhead, and further, that subordination has to be P.O. Box 631, Liverpool, 2170. also the Pro-Cathedral and headquarters of the Phyllis Crease), Son of God, although equal, is from the Father. character of God. It was the discovery of the Bishop of New Guinea Islands, Bishop Bevan based on equality. Yours faithfully, "Work is given to the Son from him of whom he himself is, that is, from the glaring inconsistence between the attitude of Meredith, is situated, together with the Rectory Jesus towards women and that of His church now, lames Ramsay Before we can consider the question "What must this mean for women's Father; and the Son so sees the Father, as that he is the Son in very seeing him and the Bishop's House, in the major disaster ordination?," it is necessary to examine this agreement a little further, and to which raised the consciousness of Christian area. Rectory swap .... the working of both the Father and the Son is indivisible and equal, but it women all over the world. The Rabaul' Rectory has been stripped of comment on the way the agreement was arrived at. Dear Sir, is from the Father to the Son". (NPNF, vol 3, page 38) It is on the basis of God's righteous judgement virtually all its contents, as these have been It is along this line of reasoning that Augustine insists that there is a right way that we can appeal to a right relationship between removed to Kokopo, so the Farrants are living Could you please arrange to have the following men and women, one that is just of mutual of viewing the eternal relationship between the Father and the Son so that we with the barest necessities of life. The Bishop who notice included Ind the next edition of "Church respect and mutual submission. Camberwell FOL meeting is often away from Rabaul on episcopal visitation Record"— Philosophy, not fundamentalism can truly call the Father the Sender and the Son the Sent: that is, there is an We also appeal to God's holiness to affirm the lives in a similar situation. The Rector of St. Aidan's, East Launceston, eternal order in the Trinity. Dear Editor, It was stated in the debate that the Arians were mistaken about the relationship holiness and purity of women which is intrinsic to No doubt the Rabaul Parish would value any Tasmania, would like to exchange with a Rector between the Father and the Son because they exegeted the Bible wrongly; and In much the same sort of way Basil wrestles with Matthew 24:36, First of all, salvation. That the holiness of women is in doubt, May I appeal to all of your readers to financial support that Anglicans can give over and from the Diocese of Sydney for the month of some modern evangelicals are in danger of making the same error. Arians, it was Basil explains this ignorance of Jesus according to his status "in the form of Man." is not pron&unced in any dogma, but it surfaces thoughtfully consider attending the Camberwell above their normal missionary commitment. I feel January, 1985. Willing to conduct Sunday Servk said, exegete the Bible as if it were a jigsaw of propositions which have to be unconsciously in peoples' attitudes and language. Civic Hall on the evening of Friday 27th July. sure that John and Marjory Farrant would value and essential ministries. Contact: The Revd. However, he is not content to leave it there. "Now let us enquire into the It reflects the old Testament division of things into Warwick Humphries, 20 Lanoma Street, East fitted together until everything 'clicks.' But, to see the Arian controversy in those This public meeting is to give people an the assurance of Christian people in Australia that meaning of the text from a higher point of view. Let me knock at the door of clean or unclean. Women too often fall into the awareness of the real issues at stake in the video we are standing beside them in prayerful concern Launceston, Tas 7250. Phone (003) 31 1627. terms is a fundamental misunderstanding of the real issue that lay behind that knowledge, if happily I may awake the master of the house," Basil then goes on latter category. This surfaced in the recent debate pornography debate. Some of the facts do not at this very tense time. Their address is: P.O. Box (Permission of the Archbishop of Sydney granted) when it was commented that "mothering" great heretical movement. to show that it is the Son's proper function, as the eternal Son of the Father, to make for pleasant reading, but they have to be 159, Rabaul, Papua New Guinea. Many thanks, language could never be applied to God until faced up to. Yours sincerely Put simply, there is just not enough evidence to say that Biblical propositions point towards the fount of Godhead: that is, to the Father. whatever the "something" was that was Sincerely, Doug!, Ahhoit were moved around by the Arians until they 'clicked'. It is true that Biblical "Only the Father, he says, knows, since he is himself the end and the ultimate inappropriate about motherhood itself passed The special guest speaker is John Smyth a Q.C. ?Ctrs,,, propositions were moved around, but instead of clicking, some were in fact away. from England who is a fine Christian and seasoned blessedness." "For all material knowledge is said to be the kingdom of Christ, performer in the defence of moral justice in the discarded by being reinterpreted according to current philosophical beliefs. That while immaterial knowledge, and so, to say, the knowledge of actual Godhead, It surfaces also in your editorial with the ready English courts. is, behind the Arian controversy, there is not a certain sort of "fundamentalism", is that of God the Father." (ANPN Vol. 8, pages 118-119) What Basil is tentatively association of women with sexuality including all its dubious aspects. Why stop with If we fill the hall there is no telling what an but a philosophical culture which could not at all believe that what the Bible said suggesting is that even the difficult text of Matthew 24:36 truly says something homosexuality? Your argument would carry the • impact we can have on those who want to censor about Jesus was true. Even modern defenders of Arius concede that his problem about Jesus' eternal relation to the Father: that is, Jesus in the form of God, not same logic by saying "if women ... then truth and moral justice, and those who make the was philosophical. "Arius was seriously inhibited by the rigidity of the just in the form of Man. prostitutes". They too could argue that they had laws. philosophical framework within which he was operating" (Maurice Wiles, 'In been misunderstood. It is very significant that into Our unity will be recorded by radio and T.V. for defence of Arius,' Working Papers in Doctrine, 1976, p37). God is in himself as he is towards us the category of dubious morality you so readily all to see. associated women. Yours for a brighter Victoria. The Greek philosophy which dominated the early church conceived of divinity The importance of this for the current debate on women's ordination is that, The claim that the principle of liberation would as "infinite essence". The revelation of God as a relational being — Father, Son in the end, the Bible must be allowed to speak for itself. We must be wary of Roger Marks. lead us into ordinary homosexuals, let you down Director seeking a code behind the Bible. When it comes to the knowledge of God, which on two counts — one is that liberation is always and Holy Spirit — completely cut across that idea, Further, it was inconceivable Victorian Festival of Light within the framework of Greek philosophy that God, if he was really God, could the Bible presents to us, we have to say that God is in himself as he is towards liberation from sin, not into, and the second was A nit Vilma Dorota us, Further, we have to say that we cannot, dare not say more about God in that when you indicated God's judgement on become a man. The battle the early church fathers faced was to assert the homosexuality as sinful, you had forfeited the truthfulness of what the New Testament said about God against the pressure of himself than he is towards us in the pages of Scripture. principle of liberation at that stage, and what was the surrounding cultural philosophy. The triumph of these fathers, although not To do that is to go beyond the Bible, and worse still, to seriously question tying women's ordination and homosexuality together in your mind was that both were under perfect, was that they discarded much of their philosophy to assert the Biblical whether we have any true knowledge of God at all. If God is not in himself as Peterborough centenary truths. God's judgement. What I would also maintain is he is towards us, then it is anyone's guess as to what God is really like. Jesus said, that the association was already there beforehand The problem has only really changed its expression. Our own philosophical "He who has seen me, has seen the Father." Because we trust Jesus Christ (and not between women's ordination and Dear Sir, We know no Christ except Christ clothed with his Gospel), then we know with homosexuality but between women and culture is just as likely to force modern Christians into treating the Bible in a On behalf of the Centenary Committee of St. homosexuality. similarity unhelpful manner. With respect to women's ordination, the assertion by full assurance that we have true knowledge of the Father given to us in our Lord's Peters Anglican Church, Peterborough. I am Susanne Glover secular feminism that women can only be equal to men if they are able to carry earthly life, death and resurrection. When we see in John's Gospel that Jesus writing to inform readers about the forthcoming ',111.1.1 I 1111 Jose l'14,res out the same functions as men, is an obvious pressure. On the other hand, male subordinates himself to the will of the Father, we know that it directly tells us Centenary celebrations. domination, or male "bossyness" which characterises so much of Australian something true about the eternal relationships within the Trinity. If this is not the There may be old Peterborough Anglicans family life is also a pressure which could lead Christians to disregard the Bible's case, then it is anyone's guess as to what God is really like, and anyone's guess scattered thoughout the country who may per chance read this article and endeavour to return clear teachings on relationships. In the end it is what the Bible actually says which as to what he is really like towards us now. If this is not true we must even doubt for this historic occasion. must the forgiveness of sins. determine how we interpret it. The celebrations will be held on the Labour The philosophy of the world cannot believe that equality of personhood is Day Holiday week end of Saturday October 6th consistent with any permanent subordination between those persons. Christians and Sundary October 7th 1984. The following he, "Particularity" and subordination must not allow that philosophy to change our understanding of the Godhead as been arranged:— it has been clearly revealed in our Lord's life. Saturday 6th October 1984 Contemporary Another point raised in the course of the debate concerned "particularity". On Worship St. Peters Sacred Dance Group. Thiindile I gt man Stacie Ceguerre famil Ebuenga Zewde Aseffa this view (which was held by the fathers of the eastern part of the Christian The German god Followed by tea in St. Peters Hall. Then Sung church in the early days) Father, Son and Holy Spirit are "particulars" of the divine Evensong (1662) — "Quire St. Nicholas" Preacher It is no coincidence, when Christians have let cultural philosophy dictate the Archdeacon Ian Barlow — Rector of Pt. Pine SA. unity, not so much "persons" in the way we normally understand that word. ors are needed now to rescue these way they interpret the Bible, that they have sometimes created a God which was However, even with the eastern fathers, particularity does not in the end limit Sunday 7th October 1984 Sung Eucharist (2nd Sponsand more than 1000 other children from poverty, after their own image and not the God who has drawn us to fellowship with the Order AAPB) "Quire St. Nicholas" Preacher — subordination to the historical or economic order. This can be seen in the way Father, by the Son, and in the Spirit. Arianism is a case in point. A more recent Bishop Bruce Rosier Followed by lunch in St. disease and hopeless ignorance they handled the biblical texts used by Arians in their attempt to disprove the true Peters Hall. example is that of the German Christians. In the nineteenth century German divinity of Jesus Christ. theologians started to interpret the New Testament through German culture and A Centenary booklet is being produced and will he available at that time. Two texts will serve as examples. John 5:19, 'Jesus gave them this answer, ' I learning. They started with current psychological knowledge, with religious Mature tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself, he can do only what he experience. By the turn of the century some believed that when German culture It you have any old photographs of interest, Christians please bring them. sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does'." spoke, the Holy Spirit was speaking. 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6 — AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, JULY 9, 1964 AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, JULY 9, 1984 — 9 Chronicle WORLD REVIEW MARANATHA The Message of True Religion Hudson Taylor, joyful pioneer Massacre at Shortcomings in Anglican 100,000 People Galatians 3 God's Truth — Faith Not Law Hear Evangelist Anglican college atheist Church aids I o offset the confusion caused in the In fact by faith came all the blessings of Accounts were emerging this week of Galatian churches by the teachings of the righteousness (v. 8), life (v. 11,12) and the atrocities by Ugandan soldiers who raided propaganda Spirit (v. 14). "Depend upon it, God's work done in God's way will never lack God's supplies." This was Luis Palau in Circumcision Party, Paul has established 10,000 destitute an Anglican theological college and killed one of the chief principles by which Hudson Taylor lived. The China Inland Mission was that his authority did not come from man the principal and four others, including the founded by him in 1865 and to its members Taylor repeated another of his principles, "you Soccer Stadium acknowledged hut through a revelation of Jesus Christ. Burmese farm manager. Intertwined with that argument is must look not to the Mission, but to God." In two recent articles 01 the Soviet daily 2. Paul's Gospel Assigns the Law Billed by the British News Media as "the Reports describe how the Rev. Godfrey another. His gospel was God's gospel. In James Hudson Taylor had first sailed to China at the age of twenty-one, leaving Liverpool The Anglican Church in Thailand has joined Sovetskaya Rossiya (Soviet Russia) there ordinary man's evangelist," Luis Palau in the Bazira, principal of Martyrs' Seminary this chapter he continues to argue this its Proper Place: 3:15-29. in September, 1853. He went out with the China Evangelization Society, and the venture forces with World Vision and several other have been admissions that atheist first 15 days of his Mission to London has Namugongo, near the Ugandan capital, point while at the same time giving us The Law notonly proclaims the gospel fulfilled a desire he had cherished since soon after his conversion. Christian agencies to direct a $167,000 relief propaganda is less than adequate. The spoken to over 100,000 persons in Queens Kampala, was beaten, shot in the leg, more information about this gospel. of grace but it also can only perform its program helping up to 10,000 Karen second is a letter published on 18 May frond It was in June, 1849, when he was seventeen years old, that he came to faith in Christ. On Park Rangers Soccer Stadium. tortured then killed. right function within the gospel of grace. refugees living in camps in northwest Yu. KARACHAROV, Secretary of the Already it has been stated and a half-holiday he whiled away time with a desultory reading of a tract he found in his father's Londoners have not seen anything like Thailand. The attack on the college was made Regional Committee of the Communist defended against the common objection. A man's will (Diatheke) cannot be library. Knowledge of the finished work of Christ overwhelmed him. this in more than a decade, and on some The refugees — mainly women and apparently because it was rumoured to be Party, replying to the first. That was an Simply, it is "A man is declared right by annuled so certainly God's covenant evenings, the crowd has ben amongst the Not serious, but joyful children — have fled the Karen areas of harbouring guerillas. The army had spent article in which it was reported that A. I. faith in Christ. A man cannot be declared (Diatheke) can't be. Abraham was largest for an evangelistic service in London the day searching the area for guerillas after right by works of the law," declared right by faith. That promise was Recording these events in his only autobiographical work, A Retrospect, Taylor said, "it was Burma where fighting between government DZYUBA, First Secretary of the Kirov City in more than a quarter of a century. an attempt had been made to sabotage the made also to Abraham's offspring. Note it not uncommon in those days to call conversion 'becoming serious'; Would it not be well if and rebel forces has been going on for Council Communist Party, was "released" With active and expressed support from ground satellite telecommunication centre 1. Paul's Gospel Does Come is singular. Who is the man of faith? It is the people of God has always telltale faces, evincing the blessings and gladness of salvation severol years. Many of them left with only from his post because his son-in-law sings in over 2,000 churches representing more than at nearby Mpoma. from God: 3:1-14 Christ Who are the offspring? It is all so clearly that unconverted people might have to call conversion 'becoming joyful' instead of the dothpc on their backs. a church choir. 20 Christian denominations, many church those "in Christ", the people of faith. The 'becoming serious'? First reports said that more than 20 The letter's author acknowledges the Already Paul has argued for the divine leaders are praying that the mission will people had been killed by the army in law of Moses given 430 years after can't . Great spiritual joy swept over him. He recalled his prayers to God "to give me some work shortcomings in atheist propaganda and origin of his gospel because it came ignite a full scale religious revival Namugongo but subsequent estimates put of Christ and it had change this covenant. to do for Him, as an outlet for love and gratitude ... something with which He would be education concerning the region's workers through a revelation throughout London. the total as high as 87. been approved by the apostles. To this he Well what is the point of the law? God pleased, and that I might do for Him who had done so much for me." and particularly the problem of dealing with Church attendance in and around the The massacre took place on May 29. At believers at one's place of employment on adds two more arguments. was at unity of purpose in giving the law. The need of China was strongly impressed upon Hudson Taylor only months after this. He capital has dropped to an all time low. In the college there were savage attacks on the an individual level, and states that The experience should convince them It was not given so people could gain life read all he could about China. He tried to toughen his body by exercise, as he said, "in order the inner-city area, less than t% of the students and the buildings were ransacked. "measures have been taken to rectify this"; that justification is by faith. (v.1-5). by keeping it. Rather its function was to to prepare myself for rougher lines of life." Actively he worked, distributing tracts, visiting the population attends church. Forty-seven furthermore, some music workers have They received the Holy Spirit by. show that all men are sinners. sick and the poor, and teaching the gospel to children. percent of London's churches have fewer Mr. Bazira's funeral was held in Namirembe Cathedral, Kapala, on Tuesday abandoned their participation in church hearing with faith the gospel of grace The law could aptly be described as a While training in medical work Taylor imagined his future. "When I get out to China," hi. than 60 members. last week. He had studied for a time at choirs in the region. All editors of regional preached by Paul and Barnabas (Acts prison which bound people till faith in thought, "I shall have no claim on anyone for anything; my only claim will be on God. How newspapers have been issued instructions Palau has been showered with media Trinity College, Bristol, through the EFAC 13 & 14). Miracles were done in their Christ was revealed. Equally it could be important, therefore, to learn before leaving England to move man, through God, by prayer attention, much of it surprisingly favourable bursary scheme. He was married last year on how to step up atheist propaganda in midst, such as the case of the cripple called a Pedagogue, a slave whose task it alone." in a city where journalists are not known for and his wife, who is expecting their first the press, and at the Kirov Pedagogical at Lystra. he was healed because he was to ensure the chidren didn't play Time and again he experienced God's faithfulness. Near the end of A Retrospect he told their charity towards evangelists. child, is among those from the college Institute a special course has been had faith (Acts 14:8-10). They would truant and did do their lessons, who of a time in China when he had no money and no food: "we again tried to the Lord in our British war veteran Fred Elcock was on recovering in Mengo Hospital after being organised, entitled "Ways of fulfilling atheist certainly be foolish (3:1,3) to deny drove people to faith in Christ. The law work in schools", an open course in then does not provide another way of trouble, and the Lord heard and saved us out of all our distresses. While we were still upon the platform with Palau one evening and attacked. their experience and add to this our knees a letter arrived from England containing a remittance." scientific atheism, gospel. being right with God rather its purpose is recalled the first day of the allied invasion in The killings gave added poignancy to last Keston College to bring people to the same place of faith Hudson Taylor remains a splendid and inspiring example of mighty faith. After the 1894 war Normandy-D-Day. He told the rapt crusade Sunday's annual pilgrimmage to Their scriptures also preached audience how he was wounded during the that Abraham had. between China and japan, taxation in China increased as the value of silver dropped. This put Namugongo by thousands of Christians to justification by faith in Christ (v. the CIM, Taylor said, "face to face with a very serious matter." He encouraged himself and landing and lost his leg in a shell blast the commemorate the martyrdom of Christians 10-18). Despite what the circumcision So then "in Christ" there is no others with the recollection of God's provision of manna, and he made this comment on 2 next day, but how his faith in Christ who were burnt there for their faith 99 party claimed, their reading of the Old distinction as to standing before God. sustained him. Testament was wrong. God promised Racial, social or sexual differences count Cor. 9:8, "it is a great delight to feel that we have a great and glorious God to deal with, and The Anglican Church, along with World years ago. The national memorial stands in the Gentiles would be blessed in for nothing in being justified. We all One who loves to supply His people's need, and to show Himself strong on behalf of those Vision, the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, "May this be D-Day for you, the day you the college grounds. Abraham (Genesis 12:3). Abraham was become heirs because of promise. In who put their trust in Him before the sons of men." the Thailand Baptist Mission and the discover Christ," he exhorted. The college serves the three Anglican justified by faith (Gen. 15:6) in the God Christ, by faith, we become sons of God. Hudson Taylor had to trust God not only for material needs, but also for a life partner. Before Thailand Baptist Missionary Fellowship, is Moved nearly to tears and with choking dioceses which comprise the Buganda area: who promised him and his wife a son he left England he became engaged to a Miss Vaughan. But she did not share his vision, nor providing food, medicine, clothing, blankets voice, Palau warned that Britain is in the What Lessons are there for us? Namirembe, Mityana and West Buganda. It Consultant even when they were both so old. would she marry him, From China he corresponded with another English girl, Elizabeth Sissons, and utensils to the refugee families. throes of "Another war, a spiritual one, and is likely that all members of the college were There was nothing either of them Firstly God's salvation has always been but she too declined his offers of marriage. if you lose it, England could fall." World Vision has contributed about Buganda. opens could have done at their age to cause the same. In the Old Testament and the Maria $56,000 to the Burmese Refugee Relief fund First press reaction to the massacre came Isaac to be conceived. It was a case of new, God has always declared his people to help the Karen people. Much of the from the Roman Catholic paper Munno. On faith not works! So the people of faith right by faith. It was in China that Taylor met and fell in love with Maria Dyer. She was tall and vivacious, bookshop in distribution work has been done by the the same day Uganda Radio broadcast an are the offspring of Abraham. Secondly, the law has been given to with dark hair and eyes. After many vicissitudes they married in 1858. He testified: "my dear Thailand Baptist Fellowship. announcement that the government had wife was not only a precious gift to me; God blessed her to many others during the twelve Moreover the Law and the Prophets bring us to faith in Christ. It would be Relief co-ordinator for the World Vision learned with great regret of the incident and eventful years through which she was spared to those who loved her and to China." New use for Argentina teach the same gospel. Deut. 27:26, 28:1 folly to be decieved into thinking we are Foundation of Thailand, Philip Passmore, that troops who had carried out "these states a curse falls on all who don't obey to return to law keeping to receive By 1860 Maria had been near death through illness, and Hudson was gravely ill. New Literature consultant Kevin Engel arrived has reported that the seasonal cold weather lawless acts" would be arrested. all the law. Deut. 21:28 says that he who greater blessing in the gospel. workers were needed for the hospital he had taken over. Further medical training was back in Australia at the weekend after three in northern Thailand has worsened supermarket Namirembe diocese, in which the college hangs on a tree (cross) is cursed. Hab. 2:4 Thirdly, faith in Christ gives us identity necessary if he were to improve his work. They returned to England. Taylor earned conditions for the refugees and some of the weeks in South America which included An evangelical protestant church in Brest, is situated, still has more than half of its 60 says by faith the righteous shall live. and blessing. In Christ we have roots qualifications in midwifery and surgery. children are showing signs of malnutrition. opening a new Christian bookshop iii La France, with an English pastor, has just parishes closed in the rural area north of Putting it altogether it comes out like this. which go back to Abraham (3:29), a He found apathy everywhere. "The Church is asleep", he wrote, "and cushions and sofas Plata. The relief agencies have supplied 'o the signed a contract to buy a disused Kampala. It is from this area that the anti- Christ the righteous one became family that embraces all differences (3:28) and English comforts possess more attraction than perishing souls". He turned again to the Mr. Engel, a Church Missionary Society camps more than 1600 bags of rice, 500 tins supermarket on one of the town's main government guerilla activities have been accursed for the sake of the Gentiles who and an eternal family at that with God as missionary on secondment to the Australian Bible. of salted fish, chillies, salt, clothes, medicine streets. They plan to renovate the property launched. In their search for guerillas the were under the curse because they could Father (3.26). Christian Literature Society, spends most of "In the study of that divine word," he recorded, "I learned that, to obtain successful and other emegency items. as a church, which will seat 200, window army has often made very savage reprisals not keep the law. By faith the Gentiles the year running workshops and training Reg Piper labourers, not elaborate appeals for help, but first, earnest prayer to God to thrust forth text and literature displays, youth facilities against the general public. er rived this righteousness. Mr. Passmore said the refugees now have CEN courses in publishing, bookselling, editing labourers, and second, the deepening of the spiritual life of the Church, so that men would a good supply of medicine and that three and a pastor's office. be unable to stay at home, were what was needed. I saw that the apostolic plan was not to and marketing for indigenous Christian French medical groups are working in the Jim Percy is a church-planting missionary workers in Asia. It was his first trip to South raise ways and means, but to go and do the work, trusting in His sure Word." area. The Thai government and other working with France Mission Trust. Since America. Taylor shrank from the responsibility of beginning a new enterprise, but the thought of voluntary agencies are also working with 1974 he, and his wife, Delia, have been He went there for the World Association thousands "passing away to Christless graves" was never out of his mind. the refugees. pastoring an evangelical church in Brest. for Christian Communications and the HONG KONG - They have seen what is, for France, nothing The government has granted the Karen Society for Prompting Christian Knowledge China Inland Mission founded short of spectacular church growth, from a Billy to extend THE PARISH CHURCH OF ST. ANDREW, people temporary asylum but is not helping (UK). A crisis point was reached during a Visa to Brighton. "On Sunday, June 25, 1865, unable to resistance fighters in eastern Burma. Relief nucleus of just a few believers in 1974 to a KOWLOON bear the sight of a congregation of a thousand or more Christian people rejoicing in their own from the Christian agencies is being healthy church of over 100 which has twice The shop will be opened by ABUA, the mission Applications are invited for the position of Vicar of St. Andrew's Kowloon, security, while millions were perishing for lack of knowledge, I wandered out on the sands distributed in the refugee camps only. outgrown its premises. Evangelical student ministry in Argentina, of alone, in great spiritual agony; and there the Lord conquered my unbelief, and I surrendered I he unexpectedly large response to Billy which the General Secretary is John which is one of the English-speaking parishes in the Diocese of Hong Kong Many of the Karen are Christians and They have been searching for a new myself to God for this service." Graham's Mission: England rallies have Harrower, Australian CMS missionary. He and Macau, and will become vacant in January 1985. This is a City Church several ordained ministers are among the building for three years and say this one is prompted the organisers to extend the final The China Inland Mission was founded. Peace returned to Hudson Taylor's mind and heart. also chairs Ediciones Certeza, the publishing with a cosmopolitan congregation coming from many Church backgrounds: refugees. perfect". mission by a further day. Workers came forward. Money was given, and late in May, 1866 sixteen missionaries sailed arm of the student movement. the emphasis of the ministry is a biblical expository one. Previous involvement for China on the "Lammermuir". The mission — the second leg of the East On returning, Mr. Engel said: 'The new in a cross-cultural ministry would be an advantage. Anglican crusade — is at Ipswich Town's bookshop is very small, but it is strategically Great hardships went hand in hand with great fruitfulness in Christian service. The infant SIR WILLIAM LILEY MEMORIAL LECTURE Full details of the post and terms of employment may be obtained by written Portman Road football ground. It will now located in the commercial centre of La mission was plagued by division. Some members resigned. Illness was frequent. The Taylors' finish on Saturday afternoon, July 28. Plata. It's like having a shop in an arcade application to the Secretary, Board of Patronage, Bishop's House, 1 Lower eldest child died, aged eight years. Rioters threatened the missionaries. In 1869 Hudson sank CEN between Collins and Swanston Streets. Albert Road, HONG KONG. Applications which should be sent air mail, should into a pit of black depression. The next year his five-year-old son died, and another died aged "ABORTION RE-VISITED" be accompanied by a curriculum vitae, and the names and addresses of three thirteen days. In July, Maria died too. referees. Two years after this Hudson Taylor returned to England. Thousands attended the meetings FOUNDATION GENESIS: FREE AD he addressed. He married Jennie Faulding, who had led the CIM work among women at Hang- Wishes to announce a public meeting to be held on Tuesday 17th July at 7.45 p.m. this service to readers I, a tom, of bee advertising A person chow. wishing to buy or sell anything can place a free advertisement at Macquarie Theatre, Macquarie University. of up to three lines . HOLIDAY ACCOMMODATION If She advertisement is successful, the advertiser is asked in "Have faith iii God" Guest speaker will be Dr. Nathanson. pay The Church Record 10 per cent of the value of the sale Bowral WELFARE WORKERS In 1876 CIM workers, led by Hudson, were able for the first time to penetrate into the inland. Cost $5.00 or $2.00 for pensioners. price, up to a maximum of $10 per advertisement. Married couple required for live-in ORGANIST required for St. Jude's The service is known as FREE AD and runs on an honour Annesley-Westwood Guest The task was formidable, but as Dr. Howard Taylor, Hudson's son, put it "not to go forward system. The advertiser will be responsible for forwarding to position at Aratoro: a home for men on Church, Bowral. To play at 2 Sunday services and weekday choir practice as would be to cripple and hinder the work; to throw away opportunities God had given, and ALSO The Church Record office what is owing. House parole in Sydney. Responsibilities in this Christian ministry include supervision, minimum. Must be a committed 11 Aitken Road to close, before long, stations that had been opened at great cost." David Bentley-Taylor A dinner will be held on 20th July at 7 p.m in the Union, Sydney University. FOR SALE. NT. 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The Rector, PO Box 554, Moderate twill, special rates for groups, may The Director, PO Box 520. BOWRAL 2576. But through it all Hudson Taylor laboured on until his sudden death in the heart of China, Or write to: FOR SALE 2 Black Clerical Suits Fir 40-42 regular. Nominate NSW Baptist Homes Trust, also do own catering if required. aged seventy-three, in June, 1905. Across the years his life and work still bear a powerful Strathfield 2135 own price 2 Double-Sided Liturgical Sides 4 colours $170 153 Epping Road, Marsfield 2122 (BROCADE) Phone 887 1038 message for us today, with this strong encouragement: "have faith in God". AUSTRALIAN CHURCH REL.:C.4AD, JULY 9. 1984 — 11 10 — AUSTRALIAN CHURCH RECORD, JULY 9, 1984