September 10, 198#, CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 24663 They didn't expect the Reagan ad And yes there are some things we I got into it because I believed in the ministration to triple Federal deficits. will spend money on. social gospel and the force for justice People wanted a reasonable balance We will invest in those items neces that I thought government could be. between jobs and the environment. sary to secure a competitive future for I am a Christian. They didn't want James Watt and our country. I believe christianity and democracy Ann Gorsuch to strip mine national We will support Government action are both based in the value of the indi forests and declare unilateral disarma that enables business to modernize its vidual and are closely related. ment in the war against toxic waste. plants and equipment to meet interna I believe that the major task of People wanted the work ethnic tional competition. modem religion is to help people un strengthened. We will also support investments in derstand their responsibilities toward They didn't want the sick and the science, in education, and teacher one another. helpless taken off disability. training that will guarantee us the I believe the task of Government is And they didn't want a welfare most skillful, informed, and competi to enable people to meet those respon system so screwed up that even the tive work force in the world. sibilities in an effective and decent author of the theory behind Reagan We will support the rebuilding of way. omics, . And I think Americans know that wanted to pass bills. I'm in it because I Where no religious body seeks to impose the Democratic Party is their best bet have a restlessness about some of the its rule directly or indirectly upon the gen to meet the test of fairness in paying shortcomings of our society, some of eral populace in the public acts of its offi those bills. its weaknesses, and inequities. cials. 24664 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE September 10, 1984 I believe in an America where every is some politicians. They often try to all our constituents, the judgment as person has the same right to attend or not sen.• under a religious label, something to what is enforceable and workable in attend the church of his choice. which would not stand on its own. Do a society as multifacited as ours? I believe these things. Not because it we need any sillier example than Jerry I believe it is not only permissible is convenient, but because it is neces Falwell's Moral Majority rollcall but imperative for public officials to sary. It is necessary for two reasons: which counts votes against Reaganom reserve to themselves questions about First, to preserve my own religious ics and for a nuclear freeze as votes strategies, the efficacy of those strate liberty. against God and morality. gies, even in pursuing agreed ends. In Second, to find the truth as much as Fourth, the morality that some fact the oath that we take each 2 it is possible for any human being to groups seek to impose is often directed years requires it. find it. to strategy rather than to principle . And even recognizing the primacy of This country was founded, its Con and it is, oh, so selective. ISsues that effect life itself, is it legiti stitution was written by patriots who Example: Abortion. mate for people who say they are pro fled religious persecution. They wrote I happen to agree with Jerry Fal life to limit their concern for life to into the Constitution a hard, firm line well, most religious fundamentalists that period between conception and between church and state. A line and the Catholic bishops that abor: birth. What about afterwards? which stands not as a monument to tion-at least in most cases-is immor Are there not other issues that are antagonism between church and state, al. pro-life in the most fundmental sense? but stands rather as the one sure pro But does that mean that in America What about the basic question about tection of all churches against the when discussing the application of public policy to people of all religions, how we wage and perpare for war? Are heavy hand of Government and there not moral standards that need against the domination of public af there IS no room for a Catholic-or any one else who agrees on sub t'? be applied there too in judging can fairs by any one organized church. didates for office? Do they not hold They understood that a government stance-to differ about legitimate ex ceptions or about what remedy is en the potential to effect as many lives which today can impose religious and more as abortion? views in accordance with one church forceable or reasonable-especially in a country where most people seem to Do not good, virtuous, God-fearing could tomorrow impose views antithet p~ople need to weigh that issue along ical to our own. disagree with our view of abortion? I happen to believe that the court With others in deciding whether the That is why we do not tax churches course of Government and the actions and why we do not bestow the benefits decision on abortion is long-term bad law because it will become medically of individual political leaders are of taxation upon churches. moral? That is why Government neither re outmoded. But is it really moral to say that abortions are OK to save the life And is not any person who claims quires individual prayer nor precludes morality for his cause required to it. of a mother but immoral if you ask that same question about a 15-year-old direct those questions to economic af Government can never give nor take fairs as well? away the right of any American to girl who is the victim of rape or incest? Does any religious spokesman have Can a .g?~ernment, a political party, pray at any time. or a politician really pursue economic There are four things wrong with such a corner on the truth that there is no room for argument about that? and social Darwinism and be truly those who try to impose their religious moral? I don't think so. orthodoxy on Government and socie With all due respect, I don't think so. Is it really immoral to question Can capitalist competition be pur ty, or who try to suggest that they sued without any regard whatsoever to have a corner on God's will: whether a constitutional amendment on abortion will be any more enforcea justice and mercy? I don't think so and First, no one has a corner on God's neither do most respected religious au will. As the liturgical conference said ble than prohibition was in the 1920's? With all due respect, I don't think so. thorities. in 1968: Papal encylicals from Pope Leo XIII When any man or any group of men think Is it not legitimate to ask people what kinds of criminal penalties they through Pope Pious John XXIII and that they have such a firm grip on the will John Paul II have called for govern of God that they know it all, they become would levy against someone's mother dangerous both to themselves and to others. wife, or daughter if we had a constitu: ment action to address the imbalance Their pride becomes insufferable and they tional amendment and States adopted between rich and poor, to feed the mask their oppression of others with the legislation to enforce that act? Would hungry, to assist underdeveloped na pretense of divine authority. it be life imprisonment? Would it be tions, to reduce unemployment to That goes for American politicians the death penalty-an eye for an eye? eliminate racial injustice. Leading and for American religious leaders. How many years imprisonment would Protestant and Jewish theologians Second, public officials who cry the it be? When you get down to questions have preached the same message. loudest about religion are often more like that, what is advisable and what is Some examples: pharisee than prophet. All too often enforceable. Dr. N .A. Larson of Iowa, bishop of when politicians begin posing for holy Do not public officials have an obli the Norwegian Lutheran Church of pictures, it is time for people to hang gation higher than anyone else's to America in 1940 said: on to their prayer books and their wal make sure that what is adopted is en I_ndustrialists have a tendency of using re lets because they are probably about forceable in order to preserve the re ligiOn and church membership as a cloak to cover a wrong attitude toward labor. A man to steal both. The cynical use of patri spect for law that is necessary in any may be a pirate in business but throw a otism may, in the words of Samuel society? cloak of religion over his life by giving to Johnson, be the last refuge of a scoun When the Catholic bishops them pet charities. The modem materialistic civi drel, but the cynical use of religion is selves split openly on the question of a lization has developed a doctrine of the all too often a close second. total versus a State-by-State approach divine right of property. Third, the third problem with many to a constitutional amendment, cannot And that is wrong. of those who seek to impose their own moral men and women who oppose In October 1946, 122 religious lead brand of religion on public affairs or abortion debate whether either will be ers of Catholics, Protestants, and Jews imply a closer link to God than others effective or appropriate without being drew up a declaration of economic jus is that what they really are promoting called proabortion and anti-life? tice which said: is not so much religion, but a commer Is it not legitmate for public officials Private property is limited by moral obli cial or political message wrapped in a to weigh and consider heavily the gation-the moral purpose of economic life religious ribbon. That is as much true moral advice of the clergy, but reserve is social justice-to distribute God's gifts eq as some so-called religious leaders as it for themselves, as representatives of uitably. It is the duty of the state to inter- September 10, 1981, CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 24665 vene in economic life whenever necessary to I am against trickle-down economics HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, protect the rights of individuals and groups. not just because it does not work, but COMM:ITTEE ON THE BUDGET, Does that view allow caveat emptor because it is not right. Washington, DC, September 5, 1984. Hon. THOMAS P. O'NEILL, Jr., policies to be promoted by govern I believe in the social gospel, not ment? I don't think so. Speaker, House of Representatives, social Darwinism. Washington, DC. In 1943, Jewish, Protestant, and And I believe the whole spectrum of DEAR MR. SPEAKER: On January 30, 1976, Catholic representatives adopted a res public issues should be examined from the Committee on the Budget outlined the olution that declared for "A standard a moral perspective. not just one or procedure which it had adopted in connec of living adequate for self-develop two. tion with its responsibilities under Section ment and family life, decent condi 311 of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 tions of work and participation of I believe God has intended the es to provide estimates of the current level of labor in decisions affecting its wel- tablishment of certain rules and revenues and spending. fare... · norms and standards, but in the words Pursuant to Committee Rule 10, I am Pope Leo XIII, in his encylical of the liturgical conference in 1968: herewith transmitting the status report "rerum novarum:• spelled out clearly "He made the all-encompassing norm under H. Con. Res. 91, the First Concurrent of love tower so high above all other Resolution on the Budget for Fiscal Year the rights of workers to organize and 1984. This report reflects the adjusted reso bargain collectively to counter the that empathy took the place of human lution of October 25, 1983, and the current "hard heartedness of employers and judgment... CBO estimates of budget authority, outlays, the greed of unchecked competition:• I believe that Jesus took a dim view and revenues. He spoke clearly for the requirement of self-styled goodness that was "so ex The procedural situation with regard to that the state "promote to the highest clusively preoccupied with rules that the spending ceiling is affected this year by degree the interests of the poor... Can the raw life of human beings draws Section 5(b) of H. Con. Res. 91. As I ex you believe that and vote to weaken only its contempt... plained during debate on the conference child nutrition programs, weaken The pharisees of his time were not report on that resolution, enforcement health and safety enforcement in the against breaches of the spending ceiling bad people. They were ordinarily good, under 311(a) of the Budget Act do not apply workplace, or to take the disabled off virtuous, God-fearing people. where a measure would not cause a commit welfare? They were good, respectable people tee to exceed its appropriate allocation pur Pope Leo XIII warned against per who were healthy, wealthy, and wise suant to Section 302 of the Budget Act. mitting the "accumulation of power In the House, the appropriate 302 alloca which is a result of limit-free competi in the rules of the Lord, but who tion includes "new discretionary budget au tion which permits the survival of strongly felt the need to impress their thority" and "new entitlement authority" those who are the strongest. which interpretation of the law upon every only. It should be noted that under this pro often means those who fight more re one else that they forgot that the cedure neither the total level of outlays nor lentlessly and pay the least head to main purpose of law was not to stand a committee's outlay allocation is consid supreme but to serve the needs of ered. This exception is only provided be the limitations of conscience ... cause an automatic budget resolution is in Pope Leo warned that "the poor and people in all of their complexity and effect and will cease to apply if Congress re helpless have claim to special consider individuality and they are still with us vises the budget resolution for fiscal year ation. The richer population have today. 1984. many ways of protecting themselves Many of them still do not really The intent of the Section 302 "discre and stand less in need of help from heed the words of Jesus or their truly tionary budget authority" and "new entitle the state; those who are badly off revolutionary meaning: ment authority" subceiling provided by Sec tion 5(b) of the resolution is to protect a have no resources of their own to fall "Blessed are the peacemakers... committee that has stayed within its spend back upon, and must rely chiefly upon Or for that matter: "Judge not that ing allocation-discretionary budget author the assistance of the state... Can you you be not judged... ity and new entitlement authority-from believe that and cut disability and So let us not be pharisees pretending points of order if the total spending ceiling food stamps for the poor? to be prophets. has been breached for reasons outside of its Pope Pious the XII, under whom I Let us recognize our own fallibility control. The 302(a) allocations to House grew up, warned against policies that committees made pursuant to the confer as well as that of our opponents. ence report on H. Con. Res. 91 were printed promoted the growth of the large at Let us as lawmakers get about the in the Congressional Record, June 22, 1983, the expense of the small. business of fitting law to man's needs H. 4326. Adjustments to such allocations And religious leaders in their teach and let God do the measuring and the made pursuant to Section 2 of House Con ings have also applied a somewhat dif judging. He will anyway in the end re current Resolution 91, the reserve fund, are ferent measuring stick to foreign af gardless of what any of us might say. reflected in House Reports 98-313, 93-354, fairs than Mr. Falwell's Moral Majori 98-381, and 98-439. ty on occasion does. The attached tables show where each As far back as 1935 Catholic bishops committee currently stands compared to its 302 allocation of discretionary budget au spoke to the real cause of violence and thority and of new entitlement authority. the revolution in this world when they 0 1500 With best wishes, said: "The real authors of violent and Sincerely, bloody revolutions in our times are not CURRENT LEVEL OF SPENDING JAMES R. JONES, the radicals and communists but the AND REVENUES Chainnan. autocratic possessors of wealth and e (Mr. JONES of Oklahoma asked Fiscal year 1984 budget authority compari power, who use their position to op son of current level and adjusted budget press their fellow men... Can you and was given permission to extend his resolution allocation by committee remarks at this point in the RECORD doubt their wisdom as we have [In millions of dollars] watched developments in Central and to include extraneous matter.) Current level' America in past decades and even Mr. JONES of Oklahoma. Mr. House committee: Total current today? Speaker. pursuant to the procedures level...... -546 I believe that a truly moral govern of the Committee on the Budget and ment and a truly savvy and moral soci section 311(b) of the Congressional Appropriations Committee-Dis- ety will not mistake public piety for Budget Act of 1974, I am submitting to cretionary ...... (-225) public morality. the RECORD a letter to the Speaker ad Authorizing committee-Discre I believe that they would seek to re vising him of the current level of tionary action: dress the differences between the rich spending and revenues for fiscal year Agriculture...... (-383) and poor, not to expand them. 1984. Armed Services ...... (-4) 24666 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE September 10, 1981,. Current level 1 Banking, Finance and Urban [In millions of dollars] Mr. GREEN, 60 minutes, on Septem Affairs ...... <...... ) ber 25. Mr. LUNGREN, for 5 minutes, today. District of Columbia ...... <...... ) a=~ Outlays Revenues Education and Labor...... <...... ) Mr. BURTON of Indiana, for 60 min (-192) utes, September 11. Energy and Commerce ...... 3. Continuing resolution authority...... Foreign Affairs ...... <. ...•. ) 4. Conference agreements ratified by both or under <- > their 302(a) allocation. [In millions of dollars] extraneous matter:) Note.-Detail may not add due to rounding. Mr. CORCORAN. a~~~~ Outlays Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. FISCAL YEAR 1984 NEW ENTITLEMENT AUTHORITY, COM Mr. DANNEMEYER. PARISON OF CURRENT LEVEL AND BUDGET RESOLUTION I. Enacted: Mr. KEMP. Permanent appropriations and trust funds ...... $535,903 $491,993 :L """" " "'"' "'""' Mr. A.NNUNZIO in six instances. 98-396) ...... 6,127 2,978 ~~~s~~~~ ::::::::::: : ::::::: :: :: : :::::::~:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : :::::::::::::::::::::::: Offsetting receipts ...... -232 -232 Mr. JoNEs of Tennessee in 10 in Veterans' Affairs ...... 187 214 160 Total ...... 922,431 853,489 stances. Ways and Means ...... 1,584 1,102 4,023 Mr. BoNER of Tennessee in five in- II . Entitlement authority and other mandatory items requiring further appropriation action: stances. U.S. CONGRESS, Claims, Defense ...... 63 57 Mr. WAXMAN. CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE, 2 I Mr. OTTINGER. Washington, DC, September 4, 1984. ~~ie.. ~~.~~.~~.~ .:::::::::::::::::::: : : ::: :: :: :::: : ::::::::: 33 33 Medicaid ...... 571 571 Mr. MRAZEK. Hon. JAMEs R. JoNES, Advances to unemployment: Chairman, Committee on the Budget, Trust fund ...... 3,932 3,932 Mr. STARK in three instances. Offsetting receipts...... -3,932 -3,932 Mr. BENNETT. House of Representatives, Washington, DC. Special benefits, disabled coal miners ...... 20 20 DEAR MR. CHAIRMAN: Pursuant to section Special benefits, Federal employees...... 12 12 Mr. GARCIA. 308(b) and in aid of section 31l. 1 Agriculture; Foreign Assistance; Treasury, Postal Service and General This report for fiscal year 1984 is based on Government and other selected appropriations are funded under continuing Speaker's table and, under the rule, re our estimates of budget authority, outlays, resolution authority (P.L 98-151/ for the full fiscal year and, therefore, are ferred as follows: and revenues using the assumptions and es included in the enacted category o this report. Note: Detail may not add due to rounding.e S.J. Res. 253. Joint resolution to authorize timates consistent with H. Con. Res. 91. and request the President to designate Sep Since my last report the Congress has tember 30, 1984, as "Ethnic American Day"; cleared and the President has signed H.R. to the Committee on Post Office and Civil 6040, making supplemental appropriations SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED Service. for 1984 and H.R. 4325, Child Support En forcement Amendments of 1984. The bills By unanimous consent, permission affect both budget authority and outlays. to address the House, following the SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION legislative program and any special orders heretofore entered, was granted A joint resolution of the Senate of [In millions of dollars] to: the following title was taken from the ; jointly, to the ; jointly, to the Committee on Clerk for printing and reference to the o'clock noon. Energy and Commerce and Interior and In proper calendar, as follows: sular Affairs. Mr. SAM B. HALL, JR.: Committee on the EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, Judiciary. H.R. 3623. A bill for the relief of ETC. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON certain former flight engineers of Western PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLU Airlines; with an amendment . Referred to the Com report on commercial and governmental mittee of the Whole House. [Pursuant to the order of the House on Sep Mr. SAM B. HALL, JR.: Committee on the military exports, together with list of all de tember 6, 1984, the following reports were fense requirement surveys authorized for Judiciary. H.R. 1362. A bill for the relief of filed on September 7, 1984] Joseph Karel Hasek, with an amendment foreign countries for the third quarter of Mr. HUGHES: Committee on the Judici fiscal year 1984, April 1 to June 30, 1984, ; to the the United States Code to strengthen the Committee on Foreign Affairs. laws against counterfeiting trademarks, and 3991. A letter from the Director, Defense for other purposes; with an amendment Security Assistance Agency, transmitting an PUBLIC BILLS AND (92 Stat. 993); to the Commit mittee on Interior and Insular Affairs. Coordination Act; with an amendment By Mr. BIAGGI: tee on Foreign Affairs. . Referred to the Commit health care system in the District of Colum ury; to the Committee on the Judiciary. tee of the Whole House on the State of the bia, and for other purposes; to the Commit 3996. A letter from the Secretary of Union. tee on the District of Columbia. Transportation, transmitting a draft of pro Mr. SAM B. HALL, JR.: Committee on the By Mr. FAUNTROY: posed legislation to make the basic pay of Judiciary. H.R. 5189. A bill to amend section H.R. 6209. A bill to amend the act provid the Commandant of the Coast Guard com 3056 of title 18, United States Code, to ing for the incorporation of certain persons parable to the basic pay of the Chiefs of the update the authorities of the U.S. Secret as Group Hospitalization, Inc.; to the Com other Armed Forces, and; for other pur Service, and for other purposes; with mittee on the District of Columbia. poses; to the Committee on Merchant amendments ; jointly, to the ment of Nassau County, NY, for necessary Mr. CONYERS, Mr. TORRICELLI, Mr. Committee on Agriculture and Interior and security-related expenses associated with YATES, Mr. MITCHELL, Mr. McHUGH, Insular Affairs. hosting the 1984 International Games for Mr. MINETA, Mr. BERMAN, Mrs. 3998. A letter from the Secretary of the Disabled; with an amendment : Mr. McCANDLESs, Mr. LEwis of California, Mr. MORRISON of Washington, Mr. PRITCH H.R. 6210. A bill to provide for a compre Mr. SMITH of Nebraska, Mr. SAM B. HALL, ARD, Mr. FoLEY, Mr. LoWRY of Washington, hensive bilateral and verifiable freeze be JR., Mr. McCURDY, Mr. RINALDO, Mr. SILJAN Mr. PATTERSON, Mr. SHANNON, Mr. FRANK, tween the United States and Soviet Union DER, Mr. LUNGREN, Mrs. LLOYD, Mr. MAv Mr. BoLAND, Mr. MOAKLEY, Mr. HOWARD, Mr. on the testing, production, and deployment ROULES, Mr. NIELSON of Utah, Mr. KEMP, Mr. TRAxLER, Mr. JEFFORDS, Mr. SCHAEFER, Mr. of nuclear weapons; jointly, to the Commit WRIGHT, and Mr. MicA. DOWDY of Mississippi, Mr. RICHARDSON, Mr. tees on Foreign Affairs, Armed Services, and H.R. 6054: Mr. FRosT, Mr. MITCHELL, Mr. EvANs of Iowa, Mr. BARTLETT, Mr. WEiss, Rules. BROWN of California, Mr. BENNETT, Mr. Mr. O'BRIEN, Mr. SUNIA, Mr. BARNEs, Mr. SIMON, Mr. COUGHLIN, Mr. FISH, and Mr. FAUNTROY, Mr. SISISKY, Mr. MURTHA, Mr. ADDITIONAL SPONSORS BIAGGI. GRAY, Mr. KOLTER, Mr. MONTGOMERY, Mr. H.R. 6069: Mr. McGRATH, Mr. APPLEGATE, WALGREN, Mr. MURPHY, Mr. D'AMoURS, Mr. Under clause 4 of rule XXII, spon Ms. FIEDLER, and Mr. BILIRAKIS. DWYER of New Jersey, Mr. WINN, Mr. sors were added to public bills and res H.J. Res. 392: Mr. KRAMER, Mr. RODINO, STRATTON, Mr. COUGHLIN, Mr. TORRICELLI, Ol'!ltions as follows: Mr. FoLEY, Mr. GEPHARDT, Mr. FAscELL, Mr. Mr. DANIEL, Mr. WoLF, and Mr. RoE.