Volume III Friday No. 2 21st April, 1961

PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES

DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES)

OFFICIAL REPORT

CONTENTS ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [Col. 171] MOTION— The Yang di-Pertuan Agong's Speech— Address of Thanks [Col. 171]

DI-CHETAK DI-JABATAN CHETAK KERAJAAN OLEH THOR BENG CHONG, PEMANGKU PENCHETAK KERAJAAN PERSEKUTUAN TANAH MELAYU 1962 FEDERATION OF MALAYA DEWAN RA'AYAT (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES)

Official Report

Third Session of the First Dewan Ra'ayat

Friday, 21st April 1961 The House met at half-past nine o'clock a.m.

PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Speaker, DATO' HAJI MOHAMED NOAH BIN OMAR, S.P.MJ., D.P.M.B., P.I.S., J.P. the Prime Minister and Minister of External Affairs, Y.T.M. TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN PUTRA AL-HAJ, K.O.M. (Kuala Kedah). the Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defence and Minister of Rural Development, TUN ABDUL RAZAK BIN DATO' HUSSAIN, S.M.N. (Pekan). the Minister of Internal Security, DATO' DR. ISMAIL BIN DATO' ABDUL RAHMAN, P.M.N. (Johore Timor). the Minister of Finance, ENCHE' TAN SIEW SIN, J.P. (Malacca Tengah). the Minister of Works, Posts and Telecommunications, DATO' V. T. SAMBANTHAN, P.M.N. (Sungei Siput). the Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives, ENCHE' ABDUL AZIZ BIN ISHAK (Kuala Langat). the Minister of Transport, ENCHE' SARDON BIN HAJI JUBIR (Pontian Utara). the Minister of Health and Social Welfare, DATO' ONG YOKE LIN, P.M.N. (Ulu Selangor). the Minister of Commerce and Industry, ENCHE' MOHAMED KHIR BIN JOHARI (Kedah Tengah). the Minister of Labour, ENCHE' BAHAMAN BIN SAMSUDIN (Kuala Pilah). the Assistant Minister of Education, ENCHE' ABDUL HAMID KHAN BIN HAJI SAKHAWAT ALI KHAN, J.M.N., J.P. (Batang Padang). the Assistant Minister of Rural Development, TUAN HAJI ABDUL KHALID BIN AWANG OSMAN (Kota Star Utara). the Assistant Minister of Commerce and Industry, ENCHE' CHEAH THEAM SWEE (Bukit Bintang). the Assistant Minister of Labour, ENCHE' V. MANICKA- VASAGAM, J.M.N., P.J.K. (Klang). the Assistant Minister of the Interior, ENCHE' MOHAMED ISMAIL BIN MOHAMED YUSOF (Jerai). ENCHE' ABDUL GHANI BIN ISHAK, A.M.N. (Malacca Utara). 21 APRIL 1961 168

The Honourable ENCHE' ABDUL RAUF BIN A. RAHMAN (Krian Laut). ENCHE' ABDUL SAMAD BIN OSMAN (Sungei Patani). TUAN HAJI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI ABDUL RAOF (Kuala Kangsar). TUAN HAJI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI MOHD. SALLEH, A.M.N., P.I.S. (Segamat Utara). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN ABDULLAH (Kota Bharu Hilir). ENCHE' AHMAD BIN ARSHAD, A.M.N. (Muar Utara). ENCHE' AHMAD BoESTAMAM.(Setapak). ENCHE' AHMAD BIN MOHAMED SHAH, S.M.J. (Johore Bharu Barat). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN SAAID (Seberang Utara). ENCHE' AHMAD BIN HAJI YUSOF, P.J.K. (Krian Darat). TUAN HAJI AZAHARI BIN HAJI IBRAHIM (Kubang Pasu Barat). ENCHE' AZIZ BIN ISHAK (Muar Dalam). DR. BURHANUDDIN BIN MOHD. NOOR (Besut). ENCHE' CHAN SIANG SUN (Bentong). ENCHE' CHAN SWEE HO (Ulu Kinta). ENCHE' CHAN YOON ONN (Kampar). ENCHE' V. DAVID (Bungsar). DATIN FATIMAH BINTI HAJI HASHIM, P.M.N. (Jitra-Padang Terap). ENCHE' GEH CHONG KEAT (Penang Utara). ENCHE' HAMZAH BIN ALANG, A.M.N. (Kapar). ENCHE' HANAFI BIN MOHD. YUNUS, A.M.N. (Kulim Utara). ENCHE' HARUN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Baling). ENCHE' HARUN BIN PILUS (Trengganu Tengah). TUAN HAJI HASAN ADLI BIN HAJI ARSHAD (Kuala Treng­ ganu Utara). TUAN HAJI HASSAN BIN HAJI AHMAD (Tumpat). ENCHE' HASSAN BIN MANSOR (Malacca Selatan). ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN TO' MUDA HASSAN (Raub). TUAN HAJI HUSSAIN RAHIMI BIN HAJI SAMAN (Kota Bharu Hulu). ENCHE' IBRAHIM BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Seberang Tengah). ENCHE' ISMAIL BIN IDRIS (Penang Selatan). ENCHE' KANG KOCK SENG (Batu Pahat). ENCHE' K. KARAM SINGH (Damansara). CHE' KHADIJAH BINTI MOHD. SIDEK (Dungun). ENCHE' LEE SAN CHOON (Kluang Utara). ENCHE' LEE SIOK YEW (Sepang). ENCHE' LIM JOO KONG (Alor Star). DR. LIM SWEE AUN, J.P. (Larut Selatan). ENCHE' LIU YOONG PENG (Rawang). ENCHE' MOHAMED ABBAS BIN AHMAD (Hilir Perak). 169 21 APRIL 1961 170

The Honourable ENCHE' MOHAMED ASRI BIN HAJI MUDA (Pasir Puteh). ENCHE' MOHAMED DAHARI BIN HAJI MOHD. ALI (Kuala Selangor). ENCHE' MOHAMED NOR BIN MOHD. DAHAN (Ulu Perak). DATO' MOHAMED HANIFAH BIN HAJI ABDUL GHANI, PJ.K. (Pasir Mas Hulu). ENCHE' MOHAMED SULONG BIN MOHD. ALI, J.M.N. (Lipis). ENCHE' MOHAMED YUSOF BIN MAHMUD, A.M.N. (Temerloh). TUAN HAJI MOKHTAR BIN HAJI ISMAIL (Perlis Selatan). NIK MAN BIN NIK MOHAMED (Pasir Mas Hilir). ENCHE' NG ANN TECK (Batu). DATO' ONN BIN JA'AFAR, D.K., D.P.M.J. (Kuala Trengganu Selatan). ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Tanah Merah). ENCHE' OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Perlis Utara). TUAN HAJI REDZA BIN HAJI MOHD. SAID (Rembau- Tampin). ENCHE' SEAH TENG NGIAB (Muar Pantai). ENCHE' D. R. SEENIVASAGAM (Ipoh). ENCHE' S. P. SEENIVASAGAM (Menglembu). TUAN SYED ESA BIN ALWEE, J.M.N., S.M.J., P.I.S. (Batu Pahat Dalam). TUAN SYED HASHIM BIN SYED AJAM, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Sabak Bernam). ENCHE' TAN CHENG BEE, J.P. (Bagan). ENCHE' TAN PHOCK KIN (Tanjong). ENCHE' TAN TYE CHEK (Kulim-Bandar Bahru). TENGKU INDRA PETRA IBNI AL-MARHUM SULTAN IBRAHIM, J.M.N. (Ulu Kelantan). DATO' TEOH CHZE CHONG, D.P.M.J., J.P. (Segamat Selatan). ENCHE' V. VEERAPPEN (Seberang Selatan). WAN SULAIMAN BIN WAN TAM, PJ.K. (Kota Star Selatan). WAN YAHYA BIN HAJI WAN MOHAMED (Kemaman). ENCHE' YAHYA BIN HAJI AHMAD (Bagan Datoh). ENCHE' YEOH TAT BENG (Bruas). ENCHE' YONG WOO MING (Sitiawan). PUAN HAJJAH ZAIN BINTI SULAIMAN, J.M.N., P.I.S. (Pontian Selatan). TUAN HAJI ZAKARIA BIN HAJI MOHD. TAIB (Langat). ENCHE' ZULKIFLEE BIN MUHAMMAD (Bachok).

ABSENT: The Honourable the Minister of the Interior, DATO' SULEIMAN BIN DATO' ABDUL RAHMAN, P.M.N. (Muar Selatan). the Minister of Education, ENCHE' ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAJI TALIB (Kuantan). 171 21 APRIL 1961 172 The Honourable the Assistant Minister of Information and Broadcasting, TUAN SYED JA'AFAR BIN HASAN ALBAR, J.M.N. (Johore Tenggara). ENCHE' CHAN CHONG WEN (Kluang Selatan). ENCHE' CHIN SEE YIN (Seremban Timor). ENCHE' HUSSEIN BIN MOHD. NOORDIN, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Parit). ENCHE' KHONG KOK YAT (Batu Gajah). ENCHE' LEE SECK FUN (Tanjong Malim). ENCHE' LIM KEAN SIEW (Dato Kramat). ENCHE' T. MAHIMA SINGH, J.P. (Port Dickson). ENCHE' MOHAMED BIN UJANG (Jelebu-Jempol). ENCHE' QUEK KAI DONG, J.P. (Seremban Barat). ENCHE' TAJUDIN BIN ALI, P.J.K. (Larut Utara). ENCHE' TAN KEE GAK (Bandar Malacca). WAN MUSTAPHA BIN HAJI ALI (Kelantan Hilir). IN ATTENDANCE: The Honourable the Minister of Justice, TUN LEONG YEW KOH, S.M.N.

"That an humble Address be presented to PRAYERS His Majesty the Yang di-Pertuan Agong as (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) follows— 'Your Majesty' ORAL ANSWERS TO We, the Speaker and Members of the QUESTIONS Dewan Ra'ayat of the Federation of Malaya in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer Your Majesty our humble thanks MENGADAKAN TEMPAT TIDOR for Gracious Speech with which the Third BAGI PENOMPANG KELAS TIGA Session of the Parliament has been 1. Enche9 K. Karam Singh (Daman- opened". (20th April, 1961). sara) bertanya kapada Menteri Pe- Question again proposed. ngangkutan ia-itu ada-kah Kerajaan akan mengadakan tempat tidor yang Enche' Zulkiflee bin Muhammad murah sewa-nya di-dalam gerabak (Bachok): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa- kereta api kelas tiga. bagaimana yang saya telah sebutkan sa- 9 malam dalam soal dasar luar negeri The Minister of Transport (Enche bagi Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah Sardon bin Haji Jubir): Tuan Speaker, Melayu pemikiran yang mendalam bagi Pentadbiran Kereta Api telah menim- menentukan dasar amat-lah mustahak. bang dengan sa-halus2-nya mengadakan 2 Kita lihat, umpama-nya, champor tempat tidor murah bagi penompang tangan dengan niat baik yang telah di- kelas tiga dan sudah pun ada chada- lakukan oleh Yang Teramat Mulia ngan hendak mengendalikan kerusi2 2 Perdana Menteri kita di-dalam perkara sandar sa-bagaimana di-dalam kapal Irian Barat. Kita tahu, Tuan Yang di- terbang dan sudah di-ranchangkan Pertua, sa-bagaimana yang telah di- mengadakan sa-buah coach tempat sebutkan oleh pehak saya dalam tidor kelas tiga buat perchubaan pada perkara ini dahulu bahawa hak bagi lewat tahun ini. kedaulatan di-atas Irian Barat itu ada- lah hak pehak Indonesia. Sunggoh pun MOTION kita berhadapan dengan soal penyele- saian, dan bukan berhadapan dengan THE YANG DI-PERTUAN soal memperkatakan siapa yang berhak AGONG'S SPEECH dan siapa yang tidak berhak, tetapi tidak-lah dapat Kerajaan Persekutuan ADDRESS OF THANKS Tanah Melayu ini memisahkan diri-nya Order read for resumption of debate daripada mengaku dengan penoh akan on Question, hak kedaulatan Irian Barat bagi negeri 173 21 APRIL 1961 174 Indonesia. Dasar yang saperti itu, Tuan bagi sa-sabuah negara di-dalam pertaro­ Yang di-Pertua, hanya dapat di-tentu- ngan belok faham kominis dan faham kan dengan 'azam daripada Kerajaan Barat itu amat-lah baik tetapi bahawa Persekutuan Tanah Melayu hendak kita dengan serta-merta memikul beban membela hak dan kebenaran walau tanggong-jawab dengan membelanjakan bagaimana keadaan itu dzahir kapada- wang sa-banyak 11 juta ringgit bagi nya. memberi senjata patut-lah kita fikirkan dengan halus-nya. Kita ketahui' pada Tuan Yang di-Pertua, tidak-lah mesti zaman peperangan Atom, pada zaman Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu Hydrogen, peperangan yang hendak menjadi hakim dalam semua masaalah menyerang Tanah Melayu ini bukan-lah International, tetapi yang mesti bagi mesti melalui Vietnam. Kita tahu Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu zaman ini bukan zaman menyerang ia-lah memahamkan keadaan itu dan dengan menggunakan senjata. Tuan bertindak di-atas asas yang di-rasai Yang di-Pertua, 11 juta ringgit itu ada- oleh Kerajaan itu benar hal itu di- lah satu angka yang besar kapada lakukan. Sunggoh pun telah ada di- ra'ayat, sa-hinggakan ra'ayat sendiri nyatakan dalam surat khabar pada pagi tidak dapat hendak menggunakan ini kesalah-fahaman tentang perkara senjata itu; hendak menembak tupai kedudokan Irian Barat, tetapi, Tuan pun tidak dapat. Yang di-Pertua, tentu-lah Yang Ber- hormat Perdana Menteri kita dapat Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam menerangkan dengan jelas bahawa perkara ini-lah saya katakan mustahak- Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu lah Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah memang menginsafi apa yang di- Melayu menjadikan dasar-nya sehat di- perjuangkan oleh umat Indonesia di- dalam menegakkan diri-nya di-dalam atas hak mereka sendiri. Ini ada-lah pertarongan International dan tidak satu perkara yang mustahak, sebab kita melakukan sa-suatu yang berlawanan tidak dapat mengatakan bahawa kita 2 dengan kepentingan negeri ini. Tuan sa-mata hendak menjaga keamanan Yang di-Pertua, perkara ini akan di- dunia, tetapi dalam menjaga keamanan 2 bahathkan dengan lebeh lanjut ketika ini terpaksa kita merosakkan hak satu saya mengemukakan pindaan saya. bangsa. Di-antara perkara2 yang di-kemukakan di-dalam Titah Seri Paduka Baginda Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini-lah maka Yang di-Pertuan Agong ia-lah masaalah saya katakan soal menentukan dasar sempati, perkara yang sadikit sa- luar negeri ini ada-lah satu soal yang banyak usaha-nya di-lakukan berkena­ besar. an dengan kedudokan Aljeria. Baharu2 ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu Sa-orang Ahli Yang Berhormat telah di-dalam dasar luar negeri telah meng- menyebutkan maka Kerajaan Perseku­ ambil tindakan berkenaan dengan keja- tuan Tanah Melayu hendak membantu dian, di-Vietnam. Tidak-lah penting ra'ayat Aljeria di-masa kedatangan bagi saya memperkatakan soal kedu­ Dr. Ferhat Abbas di-negeri ini. Tetapi dokan di-Vietnam dalam faham politik- sekarang masa-nya telah berlalu dan nya sendiri, itu bukan kerja kita; yang ketika perkembangan politik di-Aljeria menjadi kerja besar dan pertimbangan di-dalam menempoh perubahan maka yang besar bagi Parlimen Persekutuan tidak-lah banyak dapat di-bantu oleh Tanah Melayu ia-lah memikirkan $11 Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu juta harga senjata2 yang di-hadiahkan sa-bagai tanda bekerja menegakkan oleh Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah ke'adilan International atau bagi mem­ Melayu kapada Kerajaan Vietnam. Ini bela ra'ayat untok memechahkan rang- merupakan satu dasar yang di-pakai kaian penjajahan. Walau pun, Tuan oleh Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah Yang di-Pertua, kita tahu rundingan Melayu dalam perhubongan-nya dengan di-antara Perdana Menteri dengan lain2 negeri. Presiden de Gaule, tetapi amat-lah lebeh baik kalau Kerajaan Persekutuan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, bahawa kita telah awal2 mengakui kuasa Dr. Ferhat mengetahui akan kedudokan seterateji Abbas. Soal2 ini-lah, Tuan Yang 175 21 APRIL 1961 176 di-Pertua, yang patut kita jadikan per- yang menjadi masaalah kapada bekas binchangan kita hari ini. Pasokan Keselamatan ia-lah kehidupan- nya. Ada jaminan daripada Kerajaan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya ingin yang di-jalankan dengan aman supaya menyentoh sadikit berkenaan dengan mereka ini dapat hidup sa-mula pelajaran. Satu perkara yang telah di- dengan baik. Saya maseh ada lagi sebutkan dalam Titah Seri Paduka dalam file2, surat2 yang di-kirim oleh Baginda Yang di-Pertuan Agong ia-itu bekas2 Pasokan Keselamatan yang Kerajaan telah berchadang hendak menyatakan kesedehan mereka yang menubohkan University Kebangsaan. sudah di-janjikan oleh Kerajaan dan Akan tetapi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, banyak lagi di-antara mereka yang Titah Seri Paduka Baginda itu tidak tidak mendapat bantuan daripada Kera­ tegas apa-kah yang akan di-lakukan jaan. Pada fikiran saya $1 million yang kapada University yang ada sekarang akan di-belanjakan pada Tugu itu ini. Sebab-nya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kalau di-jadikan scholarship sahaja pun di-dalam mendaulatkan pelajaran 2 kebangsaan negeri ini dan di-dalam bagi kepentingan anak Pasokan mendaulatkan bahasa kebangsaan kita Keselamatan tentu-lah lebeh baik dan itu satu daripada perkara yang tidak banyak faedah-nya. dapat di-ketepikan ia-lah perlumbaan Dalam membela hidup orang2 yang yang timbul dengan ujud-nya dua sudah membela hidup kita dan dalam pertalian pelajaran di-dalam-nya. Kalau menyelamatkan hidup orang2 yang sa-buah University Kebangsaan di- sudah menyelamatkan kita maka adakan di-negeri ini dan kalau ada juga hendak-lah kita menggunakan semua University Malaya yang memakai tenaga dan semua saloran Kerajaan bahasa pengantar-nya bahasa Inggeris supaya mereka ini tidak di-abaikan, maka akan kalah-lah kita. sebab kalau tidak di-amalkan oleh Saya pandang, ada-lah menjadi pemerentah kita dalam prektek-nya dan kewajipan bagi Seri Paduka Baginda kalau tidak-lah kita balas budi merekali Yang di-Pertuan Agong menyatakan di- ini dengan terima kaseh dengan amalan maka akan lambat dan akan tidak dalam Titah-nya bahawa University 2 yang ada ini hendak-lah pada satu bersemangat orang pada masa hadapan masa yang tertentu di-tamatkan riwayat- memikul tanggong jawab bagi mem­ nya di-dalam bahasa Inggeris. Saya pertahankan negeri ini serta memikul fikir menjadi kewajipan-lah kapada tanggong jawab bagi menjaga kesela­ Kerajaan menentukan supaya Univer­ matan negeri ini pada masa yang akan datang. Maka yang saya harapkan dan sity yang tidak memakai bahasa 2 kebangsaan itu tidak-lah akan dapat yang saya tunggu kan dalam uchapan di-sokong oleh Kerajaan apa lagi akan ini ia-lah satu kenyataan yang tegas di-pikul perbelanjaan-nya oleh Kera­ bahawa kita tidak mengabaikan bekas Pasokan Keselamatan dengan meng- jaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu saperti 2 yang pada masa ini. adakan ranchangan yang tertentu bagi kepentingan mereka itu, tetapi malang- Tuan Yang di-Pertua, apabila kita nya dalam uchapan dahulu telah di- berhimpun di-sini jangan-lah kita lupa- sebut dan di-puji2, sa-balek-nya pada kan Pasokan Keselamatan yang sudah kali ini di-tugu2kan sahaja kehidupan menyelamatkan negeri ini daripada 2 mereka itu. Soal ini ada-lah soal hidup bahaya kominis yang sudah berjuang ra'ayat ia-itu bagi kepentingan mereka mempertahankan ra'ayat negeri ini 2 itu. Jadi dalam soal yang saperti ini daripada bahaya kominis. Sa-bagai- saya pandang bahawa Kerajaan hendak- mana yang kita dengar sa-malam lah mengemukakan pada Dewan ini bahawa Perdana Menteri telah men- ranchangan-nya yang benar2, tidak-lah dapat ilham pada masa beliau melawat sa-mata2 "kalau ada sadikit pertolongan di-Amerika ia-itu apabila beliau sampai kami akan bagi kapada Pasokan di-sana nampak-lah ia sa-buah tugu Keselamatan". yang besar dan terasa-lah kapada Yang Amat Berhormat Perdana Menteri itu Apabila saya bertanya kapada bahawa tugu besar itu patut di-adakan. Timbalan Perdana Menteri dahulu Tugu tidak tugu, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, berapa banyak mereka ini sudah 177 21 APRIL 1961 178 di-tolong dan berapa banyak mereka ini akan memelihara dasar ke*adilan di-dalam sikap-nya di-dalam masaalah2 antara bangsa yang tidak di-tolong dan berapa dengan tidak memileh dan membezakan banyak bilangan-nya. Jawapan-nya, pehak2 antara bangsa itu dan kerana tidak saya tidak tahu hal ini! Jadi, di-sebutkan di-dalam-nya janji Kerajaan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, jangan-lah Kebawah Duli tidak akan melakukan sa- suatu yang berlawanan dengan kepentingan kita sepikan orang yang saperti ini— negeri ini di-dalam masaalah antara bangsa di-panggil dukun, di-sambut dengan saperti menghadiahkan senjata2 berharga 11 baik tetapi sa-sudah ia mengubatkan juta ringgit kapada Kerajaan Vietnam sadikit kita di-suroh-nya balek tengah malam masa dahulu." gelap-gelita dengan tidak di-pedulikan Sekarang saya kemukakan pindaan sama ada ia berjumpa kemalangan di- ini bagi di-bahath. tengah jalan. Dato' Onn bin Ja'afar (Kuala Bagi merengkaskan uchapan per- Trengganu Selatan): Tuan Yang di- bahathan saya ini, saya akan sampai- Pertua, boleh-kah tidak dapat ter- kan kapada Tuan Yang di-Pertua satu jemahan dalam bahasa Inggeris? pindaan. Pindaan ini di-pinda dengan membuang titek akhir chadangan ini Mr. Speaker: Saya fikir boleh, tetapi dan dengan menambah perkataan2— hendak mengambil masa sadikit, sebab "Tetapi menyembahkan rasa dukachita Jawatan-Kuasa yang dudok kerana kerana tidak di-sebutkan di-dalam-nya membahathkan Standing Order itu ada dengan tegas 'azam Kerajaan Kebawah Duli menyebutkan—ada mengeshorkan supa­ akan memelihara dasar ke'adilan di-dalam ya pindaan itu di-beri satu hari terlebeh sikap-nya di-dalam masaalah2 antara bangsa dengan tidak memileh dan membezakan dahulu kapada Yang di-Pertua, malang- pehak2 antara bangsa itu dan kerana tidak nya report itu belum lagi di-luluskan di-sebutkan di-dalam-nya janji Kerajaan oleh Majlis ini dan akan di-bicharakan Kebawah Duli tidak akan melakukan sa- dalam masa yang akan datang. Jadi suatu yang berlawanan dengan kepentingan negeri ini di-dalam masaalah antara bangsa pada masa akan datang tentu-lah saperti menghadiahkan senjata2 berharga 11 pindaan-nya kapada Majlis ini akan juta ringgit kapada Kerajaan Vietnam sadikit mendapat terlebeh dahulu dalam kedua2 masa dahulu." bahasa—Inggeris dan Melayu. Pindaan ini saya kemukakan dengan Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam (Ipoh): tujuan supaya dapat-lah soal ini di- Mr. Speaker, Sir, the amendment just bahathkan sa-chara specific dan saya moved is of a general nature and tidak ingin memberi keterangan yang touches on several matters and several lebeh lanjut daripada apa yang telah Heads under which in fact a debate will berlaku. have to proceed on several points which (Pindaan di-hantar kapada Yang di- are mentioned in the Gracious Speech Pertua). itself. Therefore, whilst I speak now, I speak on the amendment, but in doing Dr. Burhanuddin bin Mohd. Noor so I will have to touch on several (Besut): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya matters in the Gracious Speech itself, bangun menyokong wakil dari Bachok because the amendment speaks of yang membawa pindaan ini sa-bagai- justice, of matters of international im­ mana yang telah di-sampaikan kapada portance and other general items. Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Mr. Speaker, Sir, every year we have Mr. Speaker: Ahli2 Yang Berhormat the privilege of debating a Speech from usul yang ada di-hadapan Majlis ini the throne, but, as in all constitutional telah di-pinda oleh wakil dari Bachok institutions, so too in Malaya the dan telah mendapat sokongan. Saya Gracious Speech is in actual fact the akan bachakan bunyi pindaan itu bagi programmes and policies of the Govern­ pengetahuan Ahli2 Yang Berhormat. ment of the day given out to the people Di-pinda dengan membuang titek akhir through His Majesty. Mr. Speaker, Sir, chadangan ini dan dengan menambah on the very first page of the Gracious perkataan2— Speech in English we have this—second paragraph— "Tetapi menyembahkan rasa dukachita kerana tidak di-sebutkan di-dalam-nya "Addressing you for the first time as Yang dengan tegas 'azam Kerajaan Kebawah Duli di-Pertuan Agong, I pledge myself, with the 179 21 APRIL 1961 180

Raja Permaisuri Agong, to serve the people Government to combat that violence of the Federation of Malaya and with God's guidance to uphold to the best of my ability and not sacrifice the democratic institu­ the principles of democracy and constitu­ tion of free election to the whims and tional rule." fancies of some violent men. Therefore, to enable Their Majesties to uphold Therefore, that means safeguarding democracy itself I would ask the justice and the subsequent ancillary Honourable Prime Minister and this matters thereto. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as a House to say that we will combat Parliament and as Members of Parlia­ violence—we will not sacrifice demo­ ment and as politicians—or statesmen, cracy to violence. as some like to call themselves—it is our duty to give every assistance Mr. Speaker, Sir, on the question of possible to Their Majesties to uphold justice, which has been stated in the the principles of democracy and consti­ amendment itself, the matter of gang­ tutional rule. Now, Mr. Speaker, Sir, sterism and thuggery has become im­ one of the foundation stones of demo­ portant in this debate, and I would refer cracy is free election in a country, and to the page—there is no page number, Malaya boasts of a Constitution which Sir—to the Speech where it says— makes provision for free elections in "The work of reducing the menace of this land. Now, in recent years— secret societies and kidnappers is continuing perhaps within the last two years— and my Government intends to introduce elections in this country—at least on legislation to deal with the latter." local level—are turning out to be more All right thinking citizens would be a battle of violence than a battle of happy to note that this Government is free elections, and here we can do a going to introduce more legislation to lot to enable Their Majesties to up­ combat violence and kidnapping in this hold the principles of democracy and country. Therefore, in a way the Speech the Constitution of this Country by does mention something about justice. each one of us examining our own Now secret society gangsterism in this political organisation and seeing that country has taken proportions of such our supporters do not indulge in magnitude that they have become a violence. We have in this country, national danger. Let us examine the Mr. Speaker, Sir, a police force under facts: let us examine whether the Alliance rule and Alliance power and responsibility for this increase can be Alliance direction and I assume that fairly and squarely placed on any police force is strong enough and political organisation. And today I will powerful enough to combat violence of show that gangsterism and thuggery any type in this country. I was indeed are being encouraged by the Malayan surprised this morning to read in the Chinese Association Youth Section famous Straits Times a statement by known as the Ma Cheng. Mr. Speaker, the Honourable the Prime Minister at Sir, yesterday the Honourable Mover Jinjang New Village, and the heading of this vote of thanks to His Majesty says "Election Violence—A Warning referred to the town of Menglembu and by the Tunku". Mr. Speaker, Sir, that said Menglembu is not under Alliance warning is a serious warning which control and that the Honourable I am sure the people of this country Member from Menglembu himself says will not appreciate because it is a warn­ that the people are in terror. Yes, the ing to say that the democratic institu­ people are in terror. So are the people tion of free election will be suspended of Taiping in terror. One has only to or may be suspended by the Alliance recall the ruthless killing of the manager Government in specific localities if of the Poh Sin Insurance Company in violence breaks out during elections. the heart of Taiping town, where some Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think for the first men were charged with the murder of time in the history of the world a the unfortunate man, where one of Prime Minister has said: "If there is those men was defended by me and violence, I will suspend elections." declared innocent by the court, where I regret that statement, and I think the the other men were defended by people of this country regret it, because Senator Yeoh Kian Teik and found if there is violence, it is the duty of the guilty, not of murder but of a lesser 181 21 APRIL 1961 182 offence, and sentenced to prison; where Mr. Speaker: That is a very serious the Honourable Member from Taiping allegation. Are you prepared to himself underwent an attempted extor­ substantiate it? tion where he did not have the courage or did not have the desire to have his Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Yes, I name brought out in court and there­ am prepared to substantiate it with fore the case failed although he did any amount of evidences. He is a well- report the matter to the police. known Wah Kee secret society gangster and known to be such when he was Dr. Lim Swee Aun (Larut Selatan): appointed the Chairman of the Mah Can I rise on a point of clarification? Ching, Chendrong. He was taken in by the Police subsequently when reports Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Yes. by villagers were made of attempted extortions and intimidations and other Dr. Lim Swee Aun: Mr. Speaker, Sir, unlawful acts. He was locked up in the I think that statement is not correct. Police Station for 40 days. Senator Yeoh There was an attempted extortion and Kian Teik intervened on his behalf. I went to court and my name was He is today a free man in Chendrong, published in the papers and there is no walking around the villages boasting, such thing as hiding the thing from "It was Yeoh Kian Teik who got me anyone. out of the lock-up after 40 days." Mr. Speaker, Sir, if you ask me to Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: I accept substantiate that he is a Wah Kee that. I still maintain that the Honour­ gangster, I will substantiate it by bring­ able Member did not want his name ing a hundred witnesses to the Court, mentioned in the papers and did not and Police records also will show that want his name mentioned in court and he is a Wah Kee gangster. And the in fact was very angry with the M.C.A. and Mah Ching dare to say Inspector when he did mention his name that the P.P.P. support gangsterism. (Laughter). Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have Show me one case where officials of heard that in Taiping town—the town our party are known to the Police as of peace—and in the nearby place of gangster. Show me one if you can. You Port Weld, gangster activities are have the material, you have every going on; we have heard of the "town resource within your power to do it. of peace" of Taiping where at funerals O.K., let us go further. Who is the bottles are hurled at each other, where Mah Ching chief in Malaya? Who is people do not dare to attend, what they the organiser of the Mah Ching in call, Cheng Beng festivities, and my Malaya today—Mr. Yap Yin Fah of Honourable friend the Member for that Menglembu town. area says Taiping is a town of peace under the Alliance control. Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Sir, last year three men Sir, gangsterism is all over the country of violent nature were arrested for and not in any localised area. Who rioting in Menglembu town—and riot­ encourages this? What are the facts? ing there means rioting in the most Often I have heard in this House violent manner. They were charged in insinuations that the P.P.P. encourages the Ipoh Magistrate's Court—case No. gangsterism. Let us see it today. Let PC. 1179 of 1960. Who went to the me prove it by facts, and I challenge Magistrate's Court in double-quick time any Alliance Member to prove similar to bail out those men? It was none facts against the P.P.P. other than the Mah Ching organiser, Mr. Yap Yin Fah himself. Those men Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is a village were bailed out, and who was their near Ipoh known as Chendrong New defence counsel? None other than the Village. The M.C.A. opened a branch firm of Solicitors of which Mr. Yeoh of its Youth Section at Chendrong New Kian Teik is a partner, who is an Village, and got as the Chairman of M.C.A. leader in Perak. What sub­ the Youth Section a man—and I dare sequently happened to this case? It was to mention names—by the name of postponed for a long time and the Choong Kok Kee, a well-known secret complainants mysteriously disappeared society—Wah Kee—gangster. as they were too terrified to appear in 183 21 APRIL 1961 184 Court. The Police could do nothing them there in truck-loads and bus­ except to say, "We offer no evidence at loads; and our Prime Minister says, this stage." Those men were discharged "If there is any violence, we will stop not amounting to an acquittal. They elections in this country." I have every are still roaming in the streets of confidence that this violence will cease Menglembu. Mr. Speaker, Sir, who if the Honourable the Minister of encourages gangsterism and thuggery Internal Security is prepared to take in this country? If you want more action in this matter, to review the examples, I can give dozens of examples Mah Ching organisation which is where men charged with extortion, becoming a militant organisation in this men charged with acts of violence, men country, believing in force and violence charged with intimidations, have all and intimidations of the people. been defended free of charge by none other than the M.C.A. chief in Perak, What is the trouble in Menglembu Mr. Yeoh Kian Teik and his friend. today? How did the trouble start? So, who encourages gangsterism in this There was a funeral in Menglembu. country? Socialist Front and Peoples' Gangster-youths carrying the Mah Progressive Party of Malaya? Mr. Ching banners—Mah Ching banners— Speaker, Sir, it is true that a lawyer is attended the funeral. At the time of bound by his code of ethics to defend that funeral there was a fight. From anybody who goes to him, but the that day onwards there is trouble in Alliance Organisation does not believe Menglembu. Who is to blame? Is it in it, and if they do not believe in it, not the Mah Ching, for allowing the "control your own men before you Mah Ching banners to be carried by speak about others." gangsters who attended the funeral in Menglembu? What control have you Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Mah Ching got over your organisation? organisation is today used in Malaya Mr. Speaker, Sir, before touching on as synonymous with Wah Kee organi­ the next question I would like to say sation. Wah Kee is Mah Ching and this: any time if I am called to prove Mah Ching is Wah Kee. That is a fact, the allegations I have made, I will a fact which cannot be denied, a fact prove them either inside or outside this which can be proved if the Honourable House. In fact, what I say today in this the Minister of the Internal Security House I have already said outside. I will call for a list of members of the repeat what I have said without any Mah Ching organisation, at least the privilege whatever, and I regret to say top officials, and you will find that that in Perak itself the leaders of the every other man is an undesirable M.C.A. are in fact to blame, because character, and the Alliance organisation they are encouraging this for their own dares or tries to put the blame on the political reasons. And what clearer doorsteps of the opposition political proof will any man in any part of this parties. world want than this action on the part Mr. Speaker, Sir, in elections in this of the Mah Ching organisation? At a country—and again I am speaking delegates conference or at some big under the head of democracy—it is a conference held in Kuala Lumpur well-known fact that there have been recently, they decided to form a fund small battles—let us call them— known as the Legal Defence Fund. For between Socialist Front and the Alli­ what purpose? "If our Members get ance or the P.P.P. and the Alliance. In into trouble we will supply them with every case you will find that those free lawyers." Is that not incitement who start the violence are the Mah to violence? Is that not telling them Ching as far as the P.P.P. group is indirectly "Go and fight; don't worry; concerned. In every case you will find we have lawyers; we will give you that the men who start the violence lawyers." Is that not so? What is the are gangster-looking young men in the necessity for a political organisation to Mah Ching organisation with over­ say, "We will get funds to engage grown hair, with Yankee pants, led by lawyers to fight for you if you get into the leaders of the M.C.A. who take trouble." Is that the work of a political 185 21 APRIL 1961 186 organisation? No doubt you have your failing to perform a duty which it legal service. Keep it there, do not should perform to the people of this collect money to defend gangsters and country, in particular the Chinese thugs, and I say that quite a good people of this country. number of Mah Chings are nothing but On public health, I have had a talk gangsters and thugs and known to be with the Honourable the Minister of such in Police Secret Society records. Health, and I am sure that he will not In the case of this man from Chendrong mind my mentioning it here: I am New Village, we are against the glad to hear that Ipoh is in his pro­ principle of detention without trial. gramme for progress on the health side, But this is an Alliance Police Force although it is regrettable that in the and I take it that an Alliance Police Speech itself only Seremban, Klang and Force will not be so ruthless as to Kuala Lumpur have been mentioned. arrest a person and to lock him up for However, I accept that assurance and 40 days if there are no reasonable I am sure that it will be kept. grounds for suspicion. They have locked him up for 40 days. We would Now, coming to international affairs, like to know why he was released with­ I would like to refer to the call recently out any condition whatsoever and made by the Prime Minister for a allowed to go back and roam in the Muslim bloc. It is always dangerous New Village—is it a policy of the to play on religion. We are a multi­ Government just to pick up people and racial, a multi-lingual nation. Islam is lock them up for 40 days without any no doubt the State Religion, but it is reason, or is it because of the inter­ my view, and the view of my Party, vention by Senator Yeoh Kian Tiek, that a political alliance based on reli­ or is it because he is a M.C.A. youth gion cannot serve any good cause. It section leader in the Chendrong New can only serve the cause of causing Village? These are questions which are fear and apprehension in the minds of raised; these are questions which will all those who are non-Muslims in this have to be answered. country. Therefore, I would ask the Honourable the Prime Minister to drop Therefore, let it never be said that the idea of a Muslim bloc, being the the P.P.P. is encouraging gangsterism; leader of a multi-racial and multi­ let us look at the facts and see who is lingual nation. encouraging it, who is knowingly Mr. Speaker, Sir, in the Speech encouraging it. reference has also been made to rural Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Peoples' Pro­ development and there is a call for a gressive Party of Malaya has a legal united effort. Particular mention has section, a legal section which does legal been made of a united effort and exer­ service for the people. Sometimes that tion on the part of new villagers. I legal service does good service for support that call. We of the Peoples' everyone in this country, but we do Progressive Party have never attacked not collect funds and encourage our the Rural Development Plan. We have members to commit acts of violence. always said in this House, and outside this House, "Let us see what the Govern­ Now, Sir, the Speech also refers to ment is going to do. On paper it is several other matters which the amend­ very nice, let us see how it is going to ment touches on. One of these matter be put into operation; we will comment is, of course, education and I say this, after that." Sir, I think that the time and I have said it many times—that has come when we can comment—at the Abdul Rahman Talib Report is least in respect of Kinta District, where not acceptable to a large section of the some of our members sit on the Rural population of Malaya. It is my sincere Development Boards. Now, rural deve­ hope that this Government will, before lopment should be for the benefit of all, it is too late, review that policy in the irrespective of colour, irrespective of light of observations made by respon­ creed and irrespective of race—and I sible educationalists in this country. If understand that is the policy of the the Government fails to do so, it will be Federal Government. 187 21 APRIL 1961 188

In the Kinta District, I regret very for the new villagers, who have paid up much to say that in the Batu Gajah all dues to the Government, for the areas there are hundreds and thousands past umpteen years—if I may use that of new villagers urgently in need of word—there is no indication when they land. There are also our Malay brethren are going to get the grants or title deeds. in the kampongs nearby who are in A question was put to the State As­ need of land. There is land to be sembly, Perak, asking when are they allotted by the State Government. How­ going to get the title deeds, and the ever, the State Government is adopting answer comes back saying "when the a policy which is, I say, unreasonable survey is finished". and unfair. Irrespective of what their demands are, irrespective of whether Mr. Speaker: Again, that is a State there are more Malays in the area who matter. want land, or there are more Chinese Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Yes, Sir, and Indians who want land, in the but that is referred to in the Speech particular case which I have come up in regard to Land Offices and the work with, the Government says, "Seventy they are doing. In reply to another per cent land to the Malays and 30 question whether land survey has per cent to the Indians and Chinese." started an Honourable Member says, They do not know who want land; "I do not know whether it is started— they do not know whether 70 per cent I cannot tell you." Is that efficiency, is too much to give, whether there are I ask the Federal Government, in res­ enough Malays to take it up. They say pect of the work of the State Govern­ that is the policy. ment as set out in His Majesty's Mr. Speaker: Land is a State matter. Speech? Mr. Speaker: Survey is a Federal Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Yes, it matter. is, but it is referred to in His Majesty's Speech—it says "co-operation Enche' D. R. Seenivasagam: Land between Federal and State authorities". Offices are mentioned here as doing a I ask the Federal authorities, the good job—"with regard to alienation Ministry of Rural Development to look of land to those of our citizens who into this matter in Perak. It is an im­ are in need of land, a good start has portant matter. Those who want land been made by both the Federal Land should be given it for rural develop­ Development Authority and by the ment. In some cases, there are not State Government." I am only trying enough of our Malay brethren to take to say that the State Governments are up 70 per cent of the land—which not doing a good job and the Federal the State Government says is the authority should hurry them up in policy—and our members on the Rural relation to title deeds and grants. It is Development Boards have protested years, almost ten years, and they have and the matter has gone back to the no indication of when they are getting State Government, and I ask the the title deeds. Honourable the Minister of Rural Development to call for those files and Mr. Speaker, Sir, coming now to the clarify the matter so that rural develop­ question of the Employees' Provident ment is really rural development for Fund, here again the amendment on the benefit of everyone. which I speak is a part of justice—it says here, "The Employees' Provident Again, Sir, in regard to the Speech Fund has now been established for and on the amendment which speaks ten years and has been a means of of justice, I would like to refer to the ensuring that employees are guaran­ question of Land Offices and the indi­ teed a reasonable sum with which to cation that work in the Land Offices provide for their old age." That is is progressing satisfactorily. Perhaps, quite true, but I would remind the it is so, but one fact still remains Alliance of the Manifesto promise in outstanding and that is this—hundreds 1955—a word-for-word written pro­ and thousands of grants or title deeds mise "that if elected to power in 1955, 189 21 APRIL 1961 190 it will review the Employees' Provi­ can make one race antagonistic towards dent Fund Ordinance"—it did not another. Here, I would read the relevant stop there—"with a view to allowing portions of the report in regard to the contributors to withdraw their funds Prime Minister's speech—he was speak­ in cases of urgent necessity." Those ing in England : were the qualifying words, those were 'The Tengku said: We will adhere strictly the important words, "with a view to to the terms of the treaty we have with allowing contributors to withdraw Britain providing for the stationing in their funds in time of urgent need." Malaya of British troops. Earlier, the Prime Minister flatly accused Chinese students in That promise has not been kept. No Malaya—a very strong force—of trying to attempt has been made in fulfilling it dominate Malaya and its people. He said and the people still cry out for money. these un-Malayan elements, in rejecting the You will see people, old people, along Government's policy of a united Malaya, thought only in terms of China and the the streets who have money in the Chinese. They were hoping to assume control Provident Fund but who have to beg of the country on the day China became the for money, because they cannot get controlling power in South-East Asia. But any more money, because they cannot they will not succeed." get employment, because they cannot Then it goes on further: get money to buy food for their fami­ "He severely chastised Chinese millionaires lies; and yet their money lies in the who collaborated with Communists, believing Provident Fund. Surely, somewhere at Red China would one day assume control in least, a special fund could be set up Malaya. He said: These people want the best of two worlds and they are performing to meet the circumstances—at least, the gravest disservice to our country. So far some sort of Employees' Provident as others are concerned, if the Communists Fund organisation from where it can did come here, they would be greatly dis­ hand money out to them on credit. illusioned." Something, somewhere, must be done Finally, the Tengku touched on the and I hope that the Government will subject of the merger between the do it for the benefit of every worker Federation and Singapore. in this country. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this large body Now, Mr. Speaker, Sir, to go back which the Honourable the Prime to the question of the maintenance of Minister referred to as "a very strong democracy and constitutional rule and force of school-children, un-Malayan how we can assist. It is, I think, a in outlook" are Federal Citizens of this well-known fact that if we want to country. They are lawful Federal maintain democracy in this country Citizens of Malaya. And how the there must be racial goodwill, there Honourable the Prime Minister forms must be communal harmony. That it the opinion that they are waiting for the day when China will take control does exist today is a fact. It has of South-East Asia, I do not under­ existed in this country for many gene­ stand. If there are any grounds for it, rations; it will exist for many years to let us have them. But I appeal to the come and, perhaps, for all time if Prime Minister and to every politician politicians are careful of what they in this country: do not accuse a race; say. do not accuse a large body or a section of people of disloyalty to this country I would again refer here—and I say when you cannot prove it; that is the this is an example of how racial good­ surest way of instilling no confidence, will can be destroyed—to the Straits of instilling frustration, of planting the Times of Monday the 3rd April under seed where Communism, perhaps, will a heading in page 1 which says: "War get a foothold. in West Irian in 30 days, says the Tengku,"; then on page 6, that report, Then again, on the question of under that heading, goes on—using millionaires. On what basis do you another sub-heading—to say "Tengku say that the millionaires are fence- on fence-sitting Chinese millionaires"— sitting? I think they are the people that statement is an example of how who have subscribed largely to the racial harmony can be destroyed, or Alliance Organisation Fund, and yet 191 21 APRIL 1961 192 an attack is made on them. I do not Station and I have given the number know, if that is an attack on a large of the vehicle. Witnesses have spoken section of the Chinese. What will the to the boys who played music and Prime Minister think of the Indian asked them where they came from community of Malaya? Perhaps, since and they said they came from Hui there is no M.I.C. really in existence, Nam School. Is that not using school­ they do not count. Anyway, this is an children? Is that not using persons example, I say, of not assisting His under 21 years in violation of the Majesty keep democracy alive and the Elections Offences Ordinance? Is that sparks of communal harmony alive, not using persons under 21 years but that it is a sure way of antagonising without formal authority, in violation sections of the Malayan people and— of the Election Offences Ordinance? I think I would not be wrong in saying Is that not encouraging these "un- it—the people, who elected me into Malayan school-children—a big and this House, who elected other Members powerful force, who are waiting for the of my Party into this House, from the day China will come into South-East Kinta Valley District, in all politeness Asia"? Mr. Speaker, Sir, the P.P.P. demand a retraction and an apology has never played on the feelings of from the Honourable the Prime Minis­ school-children. One top official of the ter for that statement. M.C.A. in Ipoh gave me an explana­ Mr. Speaker, Sir, again speaking on tion. He said, "They are Hui Nam fundamental rights, we have heard a boys, but they are also members of the lot about South Africa's apartheid Mah Ching." A political organisation policy; we have heard about heroes getting boys of 16 to join the Mah getting welcome songs in all parts of Ching—is that the way a responsible the world. Therefore, in Malaya, let Government party conduct itself in us not bring in apartheid in any form; this country? Therefore, I gave notice let us not bring in a modified apartheid, to the Honourable the Minister of because that is what is perhaps hap­ Education by telegram that if the pening in this country from day to M.C.A. does not stop using school­ day. children to boost up their campaigns, Now, speaking again on this question the P.P.P. will enter and do counter- of justice, it has been held and often propaganda in these schools. Then expressed by the Alliance Party that what are you going to have—What it is dangerous for school-children to are you going to have? You are going be involved in politics, it is dangerous to play with fire, and fire will consume to instil excitement in people of them. I hope the Minister of Internal school-going age. Yet, who offends Security or the Prime Minister himself that rule, who breaks that rule? The will see that school-children are not Alliance Party themselves—and here taken to election rallies to play music I must distinguish the U.M.N.O. from to boost Alliance campaigns, It has the others, because I have no com­ been done in Ipoh and if it is repeated plaints against it so far as that is there is going to be trouble. I ask the concerned. The M.I.C. does not exist Honourable the Prime Minister, the as a force, therefore it does not matter. Minister of Education and the Minister The people who offend that rule are, of Internal Security to see to it that again, the M.C.A.—the M.C.A. with this is not done by the M.C.A. their top leaders. In Ipoh there is an election going on. A few days ago the Mr. Speaker, Sir, I say this: demo­ M.C.A. or the Alliance Party held a cracy will stand or fall on whether we rally in Falim. Who came to boost up have free elections or we do not have that campaign? A Hui Nam High free elections. In Malaya we must have School bus carrying Hui Nam students free elections. Any violence in any playing music on an Alliance platform place cannot be the reason for suspen­ and where the Honourable the Minister ding them. As far as Ipoh is concerned, of Justice was addressing the rally. I I invite all the Honourable the Minis­ have reported that matter to the Police ters to come and address public rallies, 193 21 APRIL 1961 194 but Ipoh on the 13th of May will once his amendment to Members of this again fall back under the control of House. the People's Progressive Party of Malaya, and there is no use trying to Enche' Zulkiflee bin Muhammad: use school-children. There is no use, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya rasa chukup- again, to flout democracy by giving lah Yang Amat Berhormat itu mem- beri keterangan. Malam itu Yang Ber­ statements to the Press to cause fears hormat itu tidak ada di-sini, jadi in the hearts of the voters as the maksud saya ia-lah hendak memelihara Minister of Justice has done only dasar ke'adilan. Sa-malam sa-telah me- yesterday, saying that if the Opposi­ nerangkan bahawa di-dalam chara tion parties get control of local councils politik International baharu2 ini kita it may be difficult for the Federal champor tangan berkenaan dengan authority to do things for that town. Laos. Sebab2-nya kita champor tangan What is the meaning of this? Is the ia-lah hendak membela hak mereka itu Federal Government going to say di-dalam kebebasan berugama dan ke- because Socialist Front controls budayaan-nya. Penang, P.P.P. controls Ipoh, and P.M.I.P. controls the other two States Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini-lah saya in this country we are not going to do katakan patut dasar itu di-tetapkan dan anything for those towns? I am sure tidak memileh siapa juga tetapi men- the Honourable the Prime Minister jalankan-nya dengan 'adil-nya. Ada pun will be the first person to refute such berkenaan dengan Vietnam, Tuan Yang an insinuation. I am shocked! di-Pertua, oleh kerana kita memberi {Laughter). How can a Minister of banyak perbelanjaan kapada negeri itu Justice make such a statement that maka ia-itu berlawan dengan kepen- tingan negeri ini. Pertama untok me- "it may be difficult for the Federal 2 Government to do things if that town libatkan negeri kita dalam perkara falls to an Opposition Party". Mr. International di-dalam kedudokan mem- Speaker, Sir, say what you like, but bantu sa-buah negeri dengan senjata. Ipoh will fall into the hands of the The Prime Minister: Tuan Yang di- P.P.P. of Malaya: possibly Kampar, Pertua, menurut keterangan yang telah and possibly Teluk Anson too. Thank di-berikan oleh Yang Berhormat tadi, you. saya faham tujuan-nya dalam lapangan politik jangan-lah kita menyebelah ka- The Prime Minister: Mr. Speaker, 2 2 Sir, may I rise on a point of clarifica­ mana pehak dan kerana kita baharu tion. I have tried to study the amend­ ini telah menolong Vietnam kita sudah ment, but have not been able to menyebelah kapada satu pehak, itu-lah understand the literal meaning of it, or tujuan-nya saya faham. the purpose for it. The Honourable Mr. Speaker: Nampak-nya, masaalah mover would perhaps explain what he ini ada dua. Yang pertama memelihara intends by this amendment. From the dasar ke'adilan dan yang kedua masa­ English version, the first part says: alah yang berlawanan dengan kepen- "but regret the failure to mention in the tingan negeri. Betul-kah itu? Speech clearly the Government's determina­ tion to uphold the principle of justice in its The Prime Minister: Tuan Yang di- policy in international problems without race Pertua, saya memohon kebenaran dapat discrimination and the failure to mention in di-terjemahkan dengan betul ka-bahasa the Speech Government's promise not to act Inggeris kerana motion itu ia-lah di- contrary to the interests of the country . . ." terbitkan atau di-jalankan pada mula- —I do not know what promise he nya oleh wakil kita dari Larut, refers to— barangkali ia tidak faham, kalau dapat "... in international issues, such as making bekerjasama supaya membetulkan apa a gift of $11,000,000 maksud yang sa-benar-nya di-terjemah­ kan dalam bahasa Inggeris, kalau and so on. Therefore, I think, before tidak tentu jadi keliru. we could rightly deal with this amend­ ment, it would be better if the Enche' Zulkiflee bin Muhammad: Honourable Member would clarify Menurut fahaman saya tidak sedap 195 21 APRIL 1961 196 terjemahan itu. Itu menurut fahaman punya bas kerana berunding supaya saya. menerima share2 daripada orang2 Melayu. Mr. Speaker: Saya sendiri tidak ber- tanggong-jawab atas terjemahan itu. Enche' K. Karam Singh (Daman- Saya tidak tahu, pada siapa kita hendak sara): Mr. Speaker, Sir, on a point of tanggong-jawabkan. order, S.O. 36 (1). I do not like to interrupt the Honourable Minister, Sir, Enche' Zulkiflee bin Muhammad: but I think the Speech has no bearing Kalau saya hendak bertanggong-jawab, on the amendment. We are debating on dengan kemurahan hati Tuan Yang the amendment now. di-Pertua, boleh-lah saya keluar mem- buat-nya. Mr. Speaker: Yes, but he can also talk on the Speech as well. Dato9 Onn bin Ja'afar: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, itu ia-lah tanggong-jawab Enche' K. Karam Singh: He can? Dewan Ra'ayat (Ketawa). Mr. Speaker: Yes. Mr. Speaker: Tiap2 pindaan hendak Enche9 K. Karam Singh: Then I am di-bawa kapada Tuan Speaker, hendak- much obliged, Sir. lah datang 24 jam lebeh dahulu, supaya 9 boleh di-terjemahkan dengan betul. Enche Sardon: Tuan Yang di- Pertua, dengan sebab gangguan itu The meeting suspended for ten barangkali saya telah terlupa perkara2 minutes. yang saya hendak chakap. Semenjak Sitting suspended at 11 a.m. saya memegang jawatan Menteri Pengangkutan saya telah usahakan Sitting resumed at 11.15 a.m. 7 buah sharikat bas dan sa-buah dari­ pada 7 buah itu ada di-sebutkan di- (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) dalam Titah, Seri Paduka Baginda Yang Debate resumed. di-Pertuan Agong ia-itu sa-buah lagi itu siapa yang membacha surat khabar Amendment again proposed. tahu-lah saperti di-Jerantut, Pahang sana, Sabak Bernam. Saya menguchap­ The Minister of Transport (Enche' kan terima kaseh kapada Pengerusi Sardon bin Haji Jubir): Tuan Yang di- dan ahli2 Pelesen Pusat di-Kuala Pertua, saya suka hendak berchampor Lumpur yang telah banyak memberi dalam perbahathan dalam maudhu' bantuan ini dan Pesurohjaya Awam dan yang sedang di-bahathkan itu, per- lima orang ahli yang di-lantek dari­ tama sa-kali saya menguchapkan ber- 2 2 2 pada orang yang terkenal daripada segi banyak terima kaseh kapada Ahli kehakiman, dua orang doktor dan dua Yang Berhormat yang telah mengetahui orang lagi baharu kita lantek ia-itu di-dalam soal Kementerian saya, pada Enche' Cheah Ewe Keat, mereka itu dasar-nya hendak membaikkan ke- 2 2 hari ini juga se'dang bermeshuarat. adaan orang Melayu dari segi pengangkutan. Walau pun saya dengar Saya suka menerangkan kapada banyak pula pendapat2 yang tidak pehak Parti Pembangkang Yang Ber­ menyentoh Kementerian saya, ini ber- hormat wakil dari Bachok, Pesurohjaya ma'ana Ahli2 Yang Berhormat ber- Pengangkutan Jalan Raya sentiasa setuju atas TitahDuli YangMaha Mulia memberikan kerjasama-nya dan ini Seri Paduka Baginda Yang di-Pertuan menunjokkkan Kementerian Pengang­ Agong. Sekarang ini tiga ratus buah kutan sudah mengator kerja2-nya. Di- taxi telah di-berikan kapada orang2 dalam bulan lapan ini ia-itu pada 9hb Melayu. Saya perchaya dapat saya August ini pegawai yang menjadi memberikan sokongan penoh kapada Pesurohjaya itu akan belayar mening- pehak2 ra'ayat dan menjalankan ikhtiar galkan Tanah Melayu ini. Saya harap memberi taxi2 itu kapada tempat2 yang tolong-lah ambil ingatan. Sa-perkara berkehendakkan-nya supaya menye- lagi ada tudohan2 mengenai Kemen­ nangkan orang2 di-kampong2. Tetapi terian Pengangkutan ini sa-benar2-nya dalam soal bas, sunggoh pun tidak tidak betul ia-itu soal memelayanise- di-nyatakan saya telah memanggil tuan kan pegawai2 itu, sebab kalau sa-orang 197 21 APRIL 1961 198

sahaja yang tinggal lagi dan pula chuma payah sebutkan nama-nya—ia ada 4 bulan lagi akan meninggalkan Tanah di-sini. Jadi saya minta-lah mengata- Melayu ini, dan itu di-buat chontoh. kan yang saya konon-nya panggil Ini-lah menunjokkan bukti-nya tidak pegawai itu, berchakap dengan pegawai benar. Saya minta-lah pehak pembang- itu suroh menjalankan dasar policy, kang bertanggong-jawab sadikit kalau- konon-nya ia bilang kalau itu-lah lah barangkali tidak dapat keterangan policy-nya saya berhenti dan saya yang penoh maka saya bersedia mem- senyum diam. Ini-lah hendak menun­ berikan kerjasama kira-nya mereka jokkan barangkali salah orang, kalau- mahu tahu hal ini. lah Sardon Menteri Pengangkutan bukan -chakap ria (takbor)—tidak, Saya berasa silu, tetapi malam tadi muka ini-lah konon-nya hendak diam- sampai sayaberdiri kerana hendak mem­ kan dasar policy tentang soal ini maka beri penerangan supaya jangan sampai ini menunjokkan pada orang ramai panjang nanti Ahli Yang Berhormat Sardon tidak layak men jadi Menteri itu di-tudoh orang yang ta' tahu hujong Pengangkutan. Tetapi kalau Sardon pangkal dari segi policy dengan pen- tidak layak menjadi Menteri Pengang­ tadbiran, tetapi kata-nya—saya boleh kutan maka ra'ayat-lah yang menjadi jawab, ta' apa-lah saya dudok. Jadi hakim, dan kebolehan serta kemajuan hari ini saya hendak terangkan. Dalam yang saya telah dapat kerjasama yang Kerajaan Perikatan Menteri2 yang sa-penoh-nya daripada Pesurohjaya tugas-nya bertanggong jawab atas dasar yang ia pun pegawai kulit puteh policy dan policy itu ta' boleh di- dengan memberi kerjasama yang penoh masokkan sa-chara implementation yang telah menjalankan bukti2-nya itu atau menjalankan-nya, tetapi kalau-lah dan juga pegawai2 yang bukan ex­ menjalankan kuasa tidak betul atau patriate termasok pegawai2 dari seluroh tidak tetap,tolong Ahli Yang Berhormat bangsa dan ugama dalam Kementerian itu berhubong dengan Menteri yang saya konon-nya memberi kerjasama berkenaan, bukan saya sa-orang sahaja yang penoh menunjokkan bukti bahawa supaya kami menguchapkan terima sungutan2 yang bagitu lama itu dapat kaseh dan memperbaiki chara2 bagi di-jalankan dengan baik. menjalankan policy itu, tetapi saya berani berchakap dari segi Kementerian Ini sa-patut-nya dapat Ahli Yang Berhormat itu sa-kurang2-nya pun Pengangkutan Jalan Raya, kalau-lah 2 sudah 300 peratus mengeluarkan kereta menyebutkan jasa orang ini, bukan saya hendak tetapi sa-balek-nya kalau sewa kapada pehak orang Melayu dan 2 sudah terang berapa bulan sahaja tujuan parti pembangkang ini hanya- lah hendak melagakan Menteri2 dengan 6 bulan-7 bulan sudah 7 bas company 2 yang 100 peratus Melayu termasok dua Ketua Pejabat, ada-kah ini satu dasar sharikat bas yang paling besar dan tujuan parti PAS terhadap pehak kami. terkenal di-Persekutuan ini. Minta-lah tolong sadikit. Sa-balek-nya saya minta-lah nama pegawai saya Kalau ini juga pehak pembangkang— itu—Pesurohjaya yang ta' dapat men- Ahli Yang Berhormat sahabat saya jawab sa-bagai sa-orang Ahli Yang dari Bachok tidak puas konon-nya saya Berhormat di-sini supaya saya sa-bagai ini jadi patong kapada pehak dari Menteri yang menjawab-nya ia-itu ia pegawai Pesurohjaya maka saya ta' telah memberi kerja dengan ber- tahu-lah apa yang hendak saya jawab- sunggoh2 dengan mana telah menjaya- kan, tetapi saya sekarang ini menegas- kan segala tugas2 yang sa-benar-nya kan bahawa saya sa-bagai Menteri kita berikan kapada dia pada tahun Pengangkutan menapikan dengan sa- ini membetulkan susunan Majlis Pelesen keras2-nya tudohan Ahli Yang Ber­ Pusat dan Majlis Pelesen Tempatan hormat wakil dari Bachok yang telah dalam negeri2 yang ada 9 buah dan di-uchapkan lewat malam tadi mengata- ia telah mengatorkan kerja2 dan ia kan baharu2 ini ada cherita—konon- juga telah memberi peluang kapada nya cherita, tetapi lebeh umpama-nya timbalan-nya Enche' Jalani, sa-orang bercherita ta' bertanya dengan Menteri pemuda Melayu yang pada hari sendiri yang pegawai Pesurohjaya itu ini bersidang sa-bagai Pengerusi—me- pegawai kulit puteh konon-nya ta' shuarat ya'ani ada perkara yang di- 199 21 APRIL 1961 200 bicharakan ini tentu-lah kita uchapkan ada juga (Ketawa). Jadi apabila saya tahniah dan mudah2han bukan sahaja hendak balek wakil surat khabar tanya ia akan meninggalkan kita, tetapi akan saya macham mana comment daripada menggantikan segala pegawai2 dalam negeri Kelantan. Saya kata tanya pehak Kementerian Pengangkutan saya yang negeri Kelantan, saya datang dari akan memberi kerjasama yang penoh Persekutuan. Tentang janji saya kapada kapada pehak orang ramai dan saya ra'ayat saya akan memberi kesenangan minta-lah supaya Ahli Yang Berhormat sa-berapa daya yang boleh. Pener­ itu memberi kerjasama-nya. bangan dari Kuala Lumpur ka-Kota Berbalek kapada Pantai Timor Bahru hanya 84 minit dengan harga nasib saya juga, tetapi saya ada men- yang sa-paroh, ini janji saya sa-bagai dengar yang Menteri Pengangkutan ka- Menteri Pengangkutan, perjalanan dan Pantai Timor tudohan di-sana sini, perhubongan-nya elok, lekas, dan baik. tetapi saya mengaku buat diri saya-lah Ada-kah saya dapat kerjasama? Saya yang sa-benar-nya baharu pulang sa- tidak menuntut kerjasama. Saya tidak belum rombongan yang lima orang mendapat chadangan daripada pehak itu pergi—saya pergi sa-orang sahaja sa-belah sana sama ada hendak di- 2 adakan dua kali sa-minggu atau sa- (Ketawa). Saya terbang di-awang dari bagai-nya. Ini menunjokkan chontoh, Kuala Lumpur ka-Kota Bharu men- tidak usah-lah hanya melemparkan desak Malayan Airways mengadakan kapada pehak kami, saya bukan terbangan itu terus dari Kuala Lumpur melempar tudohan2, ini perkara hak dan ka-Kota Bharu bagi menyenangkan 2 ra'ayat Pantai Timor, bukan soal PAS benar. Kemudian timbul kata dalam atau Perikatan, tetapi kewajipan saya surat khabar bagitu dan bagini. sa-bagai Kementerian saya yang ber- Mengapa tidak talipon kapada saya, tanggong jawab atas soal penerbangan kita bukan tidak ada talipon? Perkara awam—sa-orang sahaja (Tepok). Saya ini tidak elok kalau di-antara sa-buah sampai di-sana saya fikir barangkali negeri dengan sa-buah negeri di-siar ada juga sa-siapa pehak Negeri yang dalam surat khabar, kerana kita ada hendak bertukar2 fikiran, hendak ber- peratoran, saya minta peratoran ini tanyakan apa2. Soal ini bukan saya dapat di-jalankan. yang mengator, Malayan Airways yang Yang kedua, tiap2 kali saya melawat mengator dan saya mendapat tahu Pantai Timor sa-bagai Menteri Pe­ daripada Manager Malayan Airways ngangkutan saya terlebeh dahulu telah menjemput Menteri Besar dan memang memberi tahu kapada pehak Setia-Usaha Kerajaan serta orang2 yang bertanggong jawab di-sana. Saya kenamaan, tetapi apabila saya sampai perchaya Ahli2 Yang Berhormat Dewan ka-padang kapal terbang tengok ka- Undangan Negeri atau pun Dewan timor ka-barat—eh ta' ada sa-orang Ra'ayat barangkali faham dan tahu. daripada pehak Negeri datang. Sudah- Saya minta kita hendak-lah bertimbang lah itu saya sabar juga kerana innallah rasa. ha ma'assabirin itu ada dalam hati. Sa-malam saya mendengar Yang (Ketawa). Sabar juga. (Ketawa). Berhormat dari Tanah Merah merah padam mabok dengan perkataan Mr. Speaker: Bahasa Arab itu ta' apartheid, tetapi ada-kah beliau faham boleh gunakan. (Ketawa). sa-benar2 apa ma'ana apartheid itu? Enche' Sardon: Saya akan terjemah- Kalau pehak pembangkang selalu kan, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. (Ketawa). mengatakan kita ini patong penjajah, stooge penjajah, sekarang ini pehak Tuhan akan beserta kapada mereka 2 yang sabar (Ketawa). Jadi sebab itu-lah pembangkang ia-itu PAS. sadikit pehak PAS atau Persatuan Islam tentu- apartheid. Saya dengar pun tidak sedap, kerana ma'ana-nya salah. Soal dasar lah barangkali menyokong saya atas apartheid telah kita perjuangkan, perkara itu. Alham-dulillah shukur kapada Allah Kemudian saya pergi ka-sabuah hotel yang Afrika Selatan telah menarek diri kerana di-sana di-adakan jamuan tengah daripada menjadi ahli Commonwealth. hari, saya menunggu kalau ada Menteri Ini menunjokkan kemenangan kita. Besar atau pun wakil-nya, tetapi tidak Tetapi ada-kah Kerajaan Perikatan dan 201 21 APRIL 1961 202

Perdana Menteri Persekutuan Tanah barangkali telinga-nya sa-belah men- Melayu yang telah menghadhiri dengar, sa-belah tidak. Persidangan Perdana2 Menteri Com­ monwealth di-London yang telah Mr. Speaker: Tarek balek! menjadi jagoh yang paling berani telah pun dapat dengan alasan2 dan Enche' Othman bin Abdullah (Tanah sokongan yang lain menyebabkan Merah): Saya tarek balek. South Africa menarek diri kerana tidak Mr. Speaker: Saya sendiri mendengar sesuai dengan keadaan, di-tudoh pula dia kata political apartheid (Ketawa). yang Kerajaan Perikatan menjalankan Please proceed! dasar apartheid dalam negeri ini—siapa yang mahuperchaya soal ini? Soal apar­ Enche' Sardon: Kalau political apar­ theid ini kita sendiri yang memperjuang- theid pun ma'ana-nya sa-rupa, dasar kan, kita sendiri tidak faham.Saya minta apartheid di-South Africa tidak ada sa- pehak PAS. yang selalu menyebutkan- kerat2. Rakan saya Yang Berhormat nya itu tukar dan chari-lah perkataan Menteri Keselamatan Dalam Negeri yang sesuai dengan keadaan negeri akan menjawab soal itu. Tetapi saya kita. Saya singgah 4 hari di-South minta kapada Ahli2 yang Berhormat Africa, di-dalam tahun 1941 saya tahu supaya soal menaikkan semangat me- dasar apartheid yang di-jalankan di- nyebut2 warna merah itu tidak usah-lah sana, ia-itu tidak memberi hak kapada di-sebut2, kerana saya sendiri orang orang yang warna-nya tidak puteh. muda (Ketawa) saya minta barangkali Kalau kami dan Kerajaan Perikatan orang yang lebeh tua dapat menolong menjalankan dasar apartheid, barang- orang muda supaya tidak menggunakan kali orang yang kita tidak suka tidak perkataan yang di-sebutkan warna sa-orang pun boleh masok dalam merah kerana berdensing2 telinga saya Dewan Yang Berhormat ini (Tepok) apabila mendengar-nya. Di-sini mabok dengan apartheid, saya ingatkan appetite, dalam bahasa Saya tidak suka berchakap panjang. Inggeris appetite itu selera (Ketawa). Walau bagaimana pun, saya sa-bagai Tetapi ini apartheid pun tidak, sa-orang daripada Menteri Perikatan appetite pun tidak. yang Kerajaan Perikatan telah berjanji 2 dan bukan hanya janji kosong bahkan Oleh itu, saya minta Yang Berhormat telah melaksanakan dan menjalankan, apabila mengeluarkan perkataan tolong bukan satu, dua, tiga dan empat perkara chermat sadikit. Di-ketawakan oleh bahkan banyak perkara. Tetapi perkara2 dunia, kerana penganjor Malaya telah yang belum dapat di-jalankan itu tentu- menentang dasar apartheid dan telah 2 lah sedang di-siasat, sedang di-laksana- berjaya, tiba di-katakan Kerajaan kan tentang soal yang bersangkutan, negeri ini menggunakan apartheid, di- terutama sa-kali bersangkutan dengan mana dudok-nya orang yang saperti kewangan. ini? Sa-belum saya dudok, saya suka Dato' Onn bin Ja'afar: On a point menerangkan kapada pehak pembang- of explanation, Sir, pada fahaman saya kang tentang perentah (directive) dari­ wakil dari Pasir Emas .... pada saya sa-bagai Menteri Pengang- 2 Enche' Sardon: Tanah Merah. kutan yang mana Ahli Yang Berhormat telah bacha telah mengeluarkan tiga Dato' Onn bin Ja'afar: tadi perentah. Yang pertama, terhadap tidak membangkitkan perkara "racial kapada taxi2 yang di-beri kapada orang apartheid" yang di-sebutkan-nya ia-lah Melayu yang di-kehendaki ia sendiri "political apartheid". membawa supaya ia dapat untong, tidak Enche' Sardon: Dia menyebutkan payah menggaji orang, tetapi kalau ia apartheid .... uzur dan sakit beri-lah kapada orang Melayu, kerana dengan jalan itu ia Enche' Othman bin Abdullah (Tanah memberi pertolongan kapada orang Merah): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, untok Melayu yang tidak ada kerja. Ini telah penjelasan. Yang sa-benar-nya, saya di-perentahkan ia-itu tidak boleh di- menyebutkan political apartheid, beri kapada orang yang bukan Melayu, 203 21 APRIL 1961 204 sebab ia dapat taxi itu kerana keisti- uchapan Duli Yang Maha Mulia itu mewaan ia-itu quota orang Melayu. berbunyi: "Beta bersama2 dengan Raja Saya perchaya pehak orang Melayu Permaisuri Agong akan memberi sa- memang menyokong penoh, terutama penoh2 perkhidmatan kapada ra'ayat sa-kali pembawa kereta yang kurang Persekutuan Tanah Melayu dan juga dapat kerja itu-lah peluang dapat kerja dengan sa-berapa daya Beta dengan dengan orang Melayu sendiri. Yang pertunjok Allah subhanahu wata'ala kedua, berkenaan dengan kampeni2 bas, memelihara atas dasar2 demokrasi dan lori yang bukan Melayu apabila mereka pemerentahan yang berpelembagaan". hendak minta tambah bilangan bas Di-dalam soal ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kerana hendak berjalan di-situ, maka saya merasa besar hati atas uchapan peratoran-nya di-mestikan menerima Duli Yang Maha Mulia itu. modal daripada orang Melayu dan 2 Tuan Yang di-Pertua, menurut nama orang Melayu itu hendak- uchapan itu bahawa ia akan memeli­ lah di-beri kapada Lembaga Pelesen hara seluroh ra'ayat Persekutuan Tanah supaya di-siasat, bukan-lah dengan Melayu ini, maka saya berpendapat nama sahaja. Dan bagitu juga Kemen- ra'ayat seluroh Persekutuan Tanah terian dan Lembaga Pelesenan akan Melayu ini bererti juga termasok ra'ayat mengetatkan lagi soal ini, dan perkara daripada negeri Kelantan dan Treng- yang telah terjadi meminjamkan nama ganu. Jangan-lah hendak-nya walau itu tidak sesuai dengan kehendak polisi pun sadikit di-perbedza2kan pelaksana- menolong orang Melayu. Yang ketiga, an apa juga tentang hal memajukan kita hari ini banyak membuka kampong ra'ayat. Saya minta kapada Kerajaan baharu, orang-nya tidak bagitu ramai, Duli Yang Maha Mulia itu sebab kalau mereka meniaga bas, barangkali baharu2 ini Yang Berhormat Menteri boleh jadi rugi atau pun tidak ada dalam lawatan-nya ka-Pantai Timor orang yang meminta. Kalau tidak ada telah mengatakan bahawa Kerajaan orang Melayu dalam lengkongan itu tidak akan memberikan bantuan meminta kerana jalan baharu tidak kapada ra'ayat di-Kelantan dan Treng- untong, maka kita akan menimbangkan ganu, jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kalau kapada sharikat yang modal orang bagitu perhubongan kerjasama antara Melayu lebeh, kalau tidak ada juga, State dengan Federal dalam memajukan barangkali kena-lah kita nasehatkan ra'ayat di-seluroh Persekutuan Tanah orang di-situ supaya berhubong dengan Melayu ini tidak-lah nampak-nya ber­ RIDA.I Apabila RIDA memohon jalan jalan dengan baik. yang baharu itu tempat yang tidak bagitu untong dapat bekerjasama Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sekarang saya dengan orang di-situ kita beri masok dalam bidang kesehatan .... keistimewaan kapada RIDA. Mr. Speaker: Kenapa-kah tidak di- tandakan lebeh dahulu (Ketawa). Ketiga2 perentah yang di-keluarkan oleh Kementerian saya ini mudah2an Che' Khadijah hinti Mohd. Sidek: dapat pandangan dan kerjasama dari Tidak ada bernombor, Tuan Yang di- Ahli2 Yang Berhormat dan orang Pertua. Di-dalam soal kesehatan, Tuan Melayu seluroh-nya, dan insha-allah Yang di-Pertua, memang bagus ia-itu kita akan dapat kemajuan yang besar mengikut uchapan Duli Yang Maha dari satu masa ka-satu masa dalam Mulia itu. Akan tetapi saya minta segi pengangkutan 'awam (Tepok). pertolongan daripada pehak Menteri Kesihatan supaya dapat memberi Che' Khadijah binti Mohd. Sidek nasihat kapada Doktor2 yang tidak (Dungun): Tuan Yang di-Pertua5 saya berapa bagitu mengambil indah kapada juga mengambil peluang menguchapkan ra'ayat yang datang berubat di-Hospital. sa-tinggi2 terima kaseh atas uchapan Kita mengharapkan orang2 kampong itu Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka pergi meminta ubat di-Hospital, kerana Baginda Yang di-Pertuan Agong dan orang2 kampong ini belum berapa sudah saya nampak dan pelajari perchaya dan yakin dengan ubat2 di- uchapan2-nya itu, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Hospital dan mereka maseh lagi per­ chaya berubat dengan bomoh2 di- maka ada-lah saya akan memberi buah 2 2 fikiran di-dalam soal ini. Pertama ia-itu kampong . Kalau boleh biar-lah doktor 205 21 APRIL 1961 206 itu memberi layanan yang baik kapada di-kampong akan bertambah bilangan- orang2 sakit itu supaya orang2 sakit itu nya, tetapi sayang-nya dukachita di- tertarek hati-lah dengan layanan2 yang nyatakan bahawa di-seluroh Perseku­ baik itu. Sa-tengah-nya mengatakan apa tuan Tanah Melayu ini tidak ada satu guna pergi ka-Hospital, bukan di- pun Sekolah Rumah-tangga khas bagi pereksa-nya, bahkan kadang2 di-tanya anak2 perempuan yang ada dalam pun tidak, terus di-beri satu surat Persekutuan Tanah Melayu ini, kechuali untok mendapat ubat. Tidak di-pereksa hanya satu di-Johor Bharu ia-itu yang betul2. di-adakan oleh Negeri Johor. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, jadi ada juga Saya mahu Kerajaan Persekutuan di-antara doktor2 itu daripada orang Tanah Melayu kalau betul2 hendak perempuan. Sa-patut-nya perempuan2 memajukan wanita kita Tanah Melayu itu biasa-nya bersifat lemah lembut, ini maka dasar yang utama sa-kali lebeh2 lagi kapada orang2 tua. Tetapi beri-lah pelajaran rumah-tangga dengan ada juga mereka berbuat kasar sifat- mengadakan Sekolah Rumah-tangga nya sa-hinggakan boleh mengechilkan yang lengkap pelajaran-nya termasok hati patient yang datang berubat itu. pelajaran berkenaan dengan memasak Saya bertanya ada doktor2 itu konon- dan menjahit serta lengkap dalam nya datang dari luar negeri bekerja di- pelajaran yang boleh di-gunakan untok sini dengan sa-chara konterek. Mung- mereka itu jikalau ada sa-suatu hal kin barangkali kerana mereka mahu menimpa kemalangan di-belakang hari tidak mahu dengan konterek-nya sakian2 maka ia boleh betulkan sendiri untok tahun maka dengan sebab itu menjaga anak2 dan rumah-tangga-nya, mereka bekerja tidak dengan sa-chara dan ia boleh menchari mata-pencharian- betul. Jadi itu, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, nya mengikut saloran yang di-ridzai saya bukan-lah hendak memburokkan, oleh Tuhan supaya tidak terpaksa sa- apa nama-nya Tuan Yang di-Pertua? . . bagaimana yang banyak sekarang wanita2 itu tidak mempunyai pelajaran Mr. Speaker: Jangan tanya kapada yang betul dalam soal rumah-tangga saya! (Ketawa). kerana tidak ada pendidekan dalam soal itu. Maka dengan yang demikian Che' Khadijah binti Mohd. Sidek: banyak-lah pemudi2 kita yang kechiwa Saya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, chuma dalam penghidupan bekerja di-kedai2 meminta kapada Yang Berhormat itu kopi sa-bagai pelayan, akhir-nya kerana Yang Berhormat itu sentiasa sudah pergi kapada perempuan yang memberi nasihat kapada orang2 yang 2 tidak kita ingini dari bangsa kita di-bawah-nya supaya membuat perkara dalam Tanah Melayu ini dan ini yang belum lagi memuaskan. Jadi saya akan merebak dengan sa-chara banyak minta kapada Menteri yang berkenaan 2 ia-itu kaum pelachor. Maka dengan menasihatkan doktor itu supaya mem­ ada-nya Sekolah Rumah-tangga itu beri pertolongan dalam soal memper- sa-kurang2-nya tiap2 bandar besar di- baiki kesihatan ra'ayat. adakan satu Sekolah Rumah-tangga Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sekarang saya yang boleh di-katakan berdasarkan pergi kapada soal pelajaran. Dalam soal dengan dasar pelajaran kampong ia-itu pelajaran ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dari darjah IV sa-kurang2-nya dua saya berulang lagi—ya, saya tidak akan tahun menerusi pelajaran mengikut bosan untok meminta Sekolah Rumah- kemahuan dan kerajinan wanita itu. tangga bagi anak2 perempuan di-buat di-seluroh Persekutuan Tanah Melayu. Di-sini di-sebutkan Sekolah Pertuka­ Walau pun uchapan Duli Yang Maha ngan Menengah. Alang-kah baik kalau sa-kira-nya Sekolah Pertukangan Mene­ Mulia menyebutkan bertambah-nya 2 2 ngah bagi anak laki itu dan juga bagi sekolah di-sana sini ia-itu Sekolah 2 2 Pertukangan Menengah dan Sekolah anak perempuan di-adakan di-tiap Teknik Menengah mengikut chara kampong. Sekarang saya teruskan baharu akan di-adakan dan bagitu juga kapada soal ugama. Uchapan Duli Sekolah Lanjutan Kampong di-kawasan Yang Maha Mulia itu berbunyi— Kapada ra'ayat Beta yang berugama luar bandar yang memberi pelajaran Islam, Beta suka hendak memberi sadikit yang berguna untok membuat sa-suatu nasihat ia-itu hendak-lah mereka bersikap 207 21 APRIL 1961 208 saling mengerti dan menghormati ugama letrek kerana menyewa rumah kechil lain. Koran dan Rasullu'llah mengajar kita yang tinggal di-bawah pokok getah. berbuat demikian. Kerajaan Beta sentiasa sedar yang Islam ada-lah ugama rasmi Ayer mesti di-angkat di-luar daripada negara ini. rumah kerana jauh, jadi terpaksa-lah ayer itu di-pikul dalam baldi untok Saya sangat bersetuju dengan isi 2 uchapan Duli Yang Maha Mulia itu, memandikan anak -nya. Maka ke- tetapi saya merasa sadikit mushkil, betulan pula saya berjalan di-rumah kenapa maka Duli Yang Maha Mulia beliau itu saya terlihat isteri-nya me- itu hanya memberi nasihat kapada nangis, kerana kata-nya suami-nya kena ra'ayat yang berugama Islam sahaja hukum 10 hari tidak boleh balek ka- rumah. Sekarang saya mesti kerja di- sedangkan tidak ada tersebut nasihat 2 2 rumah, anak -nya berumor kalau ta' kapada saudara ra'ayat Duli Yang 2 Maha Mulia itu yang berugama asing salah 8 tahun kechil lagi. Jadi dengan supaya juga menghormati ugama Islam itu saya telah mengirimkan sa-puchok kita ia-itu ugama rasmi dalam negeri taligram kapada Yang Berhormat kita ini. Kenapa, Tuan Yang di-Pertua? Menteri Pertahanan yang pada ketika Saya mendapat tahu dan mendengar itu tidak ada di-sini—Pantai Timor. juga di-sana sini maseh banyak lagi di- Saya tidak tahu, hanya membacha antara saudara2 yang berugama asing dalam surat khabar sahaja. Maka saya tidak berapa mengambil berat sa-akan2 minta-lah dengan kebijaksanaan dari­ merendahkan ugama kita di-mana tidak pada Kementerian Pertahanan supaya berapa lama dahulu ada terjadi dalam "chief" itu di-lepaskan, tetapi kerana Royal Malayan Navy (di-sampok). beliau tidak ada di-Kuala Lumpur pada Diam! ketika itu maka orang itu terus juga menjalankan hukuman-nya sa-lama 10 Mr. Speaker: Proceed! hari. Che9 Khadijah binti Mohd. Sidek: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa-orang pegawai Mr, Speaker: Saya hendak me- orang puteh telah menghina2kan ugama ngingatkan di-bawah Standing Order kita dan mengatakan orang "chief" 36 (8) ada di-sebutkan: Kelakuan atau yang berpangkat itu juga daripada sifat Duli Yang Maha Mulia Serf Paduka Baginda Yang di-Pertuan bangsa Melayu. Kata-nya tidak perlu 2 Agong atau Duli Yang Maha Mulia kamu pergi sembahyang juma'at dan 2 Raja Melayu atau Yang Terutama kalau pergi sembahyang Juma'at boleh Gubenor Pulau Pinang dan Melaka menghabiskan masa sahaja. Kalau atau Hakim2 dan lain2 orang yang boleh hari Juma'at ini mahu di-tukar- menjalankan ke'adilan mahkamah atau kan kapada hari minggu—Ahad. ahli2 Majlis Pasokan Bersenjata . . . . Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ada lagi kata2- tidak boleh di-sebutkan perkara itu— nya itu dan ini kalau sa-kira-nya pehak tidak boleh di-sebutkan, melainkan ada Kementerian berkehendakkan perkara dalam satu usul yang khas daripada orang itu dalam soal ini, saya ada me- yang ini. Dalam bahasa orang puteh- ngirimkan telegram kapada Yang Ber- nya: The conduct or character of His hormat Menteri Pertahanan dalam soal Majesty the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, of yang terjadi di-Royal Malayan Navy any of Their Highnesses the Rulers, of itu ia-itu beberapa orang daripada Their Excellencies the Governors of mereka yang pergi sembahyang Juma'at. Penang and Malacca, of Judges or Konon-nya dua jam pergi sembahyang other persons engaged in the adminis­ Juma'at itu maka sa-orang daripada tration of justice, of members of the mereka itu dua jam harus di-gantikan Armed Forces Council or of any hari Ahad—balek mesti kerja. Dan Service Commission established under sudah 6 jam di-gantikan 6 jam tetapi Part X of the Costitution, of members kerja tidak siap maka orang itu tidak of the Election Commission, or of di-keluarkan sa-lama 10 hari tidak sovereigns of friendly states shall not bolek keluar rumah ia-itu berjumpa be referred to except upon a substan­ dengan anak isteri-nya. Ini "chief" tive motion moved for that purpose. mempunyai sa-orang isteri, 10 orang Kapada members of the Armed Forces anak kechil, di-rumah tidak ada lampu Council tidak boleh di-sebutkan dalam 209 21 APRIL 1961 210 ini—ini khas. Saya hendak mengingat- government. It is to my surprise, Sir, kan, itu sahaja. that the Honourable Prime Minister in his speech last evening in one of the Che' Khadijah binti Mohd. Sidek: places in Kuala Lumpur had made Terima kaseh, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. certain statements, which cannot be left Di-sini kerana tadi Duli Yang Maha unchallenged or commented. His state­ Mulia itu memberi nasihat kapada ment goes on to say that the Govern­ ra'ayat Islam sahaja. ment can declare certain areas as black spots without having elections in future. Mr. Speaker: Jangan pergi kapada I am, Sir, now reading a statement of perentah saya itu. his made last evening. He says, Che9 Khadijah binti Mohd. Sidek: "My object in coming here is to warn and Terima kaseh. to advise that such an incident must not happen again. This incident has brought dis­ credit to democracy in Malaya. If such a Mr. Speaker: Berapa lama lagi thing happens again, the areas where they hendak berchakap. occur will be declared black spots and elec­ 9 tions may not be held again until the people Che Khadijah binti Mohd. Sidek: themselves understand the meaning of demo­ Sadikit lagi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. cracy and the purpose of having elections." Kalau bagitu saya sambong lagi. Sir, this is quite contrary to the Speech Mr. Speaker: Kalau sadikit lagi made by the King. This speech was habiskan. made by the Honourable the Prime Minister at Jinjang where the Socialist Che9 Khadijah binti Mohd. Sidek: Front had a complete victory in the Saya akan sambong lagi. recent local government elections. I must tell the Prime Minister that the Mr. Speaker: Majlis ini di-tempohkan people of Jinjang do understand and sa-hingga pukul 8.30 malam ini. are conscious of the democratic rights embodied in the Constitution of Sitting suspended at 1.00 o'clock p.m. this country. It is not for the Prime Minister or any member of the Alliance Sitting resumed at 8.30 p.m. to teach them democracy. He would be doing a great service to the people of (Mr. Speaker in the Chair) this country if he can teach democracy to the people under him, who are THE YANG DI-PERTUAN responsible for the ugly incidents during AGONG'S SPEECH local elections. Sir, this morning I understand ADDRESS OF THANKS the Honourable Member for Ipoh has Debate resumed. given a very clear analysis of local elections and the prominent role played Amendment again proposed. by the Malayan Chinese Association Youth Section in using violence in local Enche' V. David (Bungsar): Mr. elections. Sir, I will now challenge the Speaker, Sir, while making references Prime Minister that if he is really to the amendment proposed by the sincere in his attempt to uphold the P.M.I.P., at the same time I would high traditions of democracy he should like to touch on certain points men­ then institute a proper enquiry into tioned in the Gracious Speech itself in the Malayan Chinese Youth Section. order to avoid wasting time. Sir, on the If such an enquiry is instituted, the first page of the Speech we find that findings of the enquiry will bring home it says, the fact that whether or not these "You have shown that although our nation people who are members of this Organi­ is young we have been able to uphold the sation have been or would be respon­ high tradition of democratic government." sible for violence in the local elections. Sir, when we dwell on this subject, a Sir, it serves no purpose on the part of person normally can talk at length on the Prime Minister to make serious the various aspects of a democratic allegations against Opposition Parties, 211 21 APRIL 1961 212 but he must understand that the indirectly have been victimising wor­ Malayan Chinese Association, which is kers and have been intimidating the supposed to be partner of the Alliance, workers from joining trade unions. has failed completely to win over the Most of these employers are quite confidence of the people of this cultured employers. I should say, and country. As a result of that, today they are holding responsible positions in the have changed their name and colour public service; and some of the emplo­ by calling themselves the Malayan yers are within this House itself and Chinese Youth Section. Nobody in this some are in the Upper House. These country hear about the Malayan very employers, who are supposed to Chinese Association, but we do often lead the country, who are supposed to hear about the Youth Section and the set an example to the backward Youth Section is today accommodating employers, have been responsible to most of the "number one" thugs and intimidate workers from joining trade gangsters and it is for the police and unions. Sir, if this continues, I am the Government to probe into this to afraid, the only result would be that ascertain the accusations made by the the Government's declared policy on Opposition Members. But I must warn trade unions will be completely that if the Government has any inten­ defeated. To safeguard this, it would tion of declaring black spots wherever be desirable on the part of the they have failed in the Elections, then Ministry to set up an inquiry into the I am afraid to say that the real purpose transport industry itself, to scrutinize of democratic parliamentary system of the complicated system of the trans­ Government has been defeated. port industry and also as to how employers are acting towards the trade Sir, coming to industrial relations, unions in this country. I find here on one of the pages in the King's Speech, a passage which reads: Sir, through experience, I know of certain employers in certain areas "The harmonious relationship which has hitherto prevailed between employers and asking employees to sign certain docu­ employees has contributed significantly to ments providing the prerogative right the existing favourable investment climate. to employer to sack the employee, In order to maintain sound labour relations, my Government proposes to amend its prin­ without giving reason, at any time if cipal ordinance. The Industrial Courts he thinks so. By virtue of this, the Ordinance, 1948, may be amended in order employers possess certain prerogative to authorise the Minister of Labour to inter­ right that he can sack an employee vene in any dispute where such intervention is considered desirable in the public interest." without showing to the public and the Government that he is sacking the Sir, talking about Labour Ordinance— individual for trade union activities. and we are not commenting on this as Therefore he sacks the employee a new subject—remarks on the Ordin­ through some other pretext, without ance have been made repeatedly in bringing in that this individual is being this House. When we talk about sacked for his activities in the trade industrial relations, nobody can forget unions. I feel. Sir, this is a dangerous the human factor involved in indus­ situation. If this continues it would be trial relations. Though the Government, impossible for the trade unions in this through the appropriate Ministry, has country to organise the workers into openly declared its policy towards sound and responsible trade unions. I the encouragement of responsible hope the Ministry concerned will bear trade unions in this country, we still this in mind when Ordinances are find certain employers in several going to be amended. parts of the country refusing to recognise the rights of the workers to The Trade Disputes Ordinance, the organise into trade unions. I can safely Industrial Courts Ordinance and also make these remarks in respect of the Trade Unions Ordinance, 1959 certain employers in the transport need complete revision in the light of industry, who openly admit that they new developments which have risen are in favour of trade unions but during the last few months. 213 21 APRIL 1961 214

Sir, once again, I call upon the Coming to foreign policy, the Speech Minister concerned to take necessary says: action on such employers who are not "In international relations my Government only a menace to the workers but also will continue to pursue an independent a menace to the democratic running of foreign policy design to contribute towards the promotion and maintenance of world a Government. peace and prosperity based on the principles and purposes of the Charter of the United Sir, in a certain paragraph of the Nations. My Government will also continue Speech of the King, it is stated: to co-operate with all friendly countries, especially in the economic and cultural "The Employees Provident Fund has now fields. With this in view we have agreed been established for ten years and has been with Thailand and the Philippines to work a means of ensuring that employees are on a regional basis for economic and guaranteed a reasonable sum with which to cultural co-operation in South-East Asia. provide for their old age." The recent visit of President Garcia of the Philippines accompanied by his Secretary for Foreign Affairs and that of the Foreign Sir, the original intention of this Fund Minister of Thailand has furthered the was to assist the workers in time of case." retirement after certain age; and the Sir, it is a matter of regret that this trade unions in this country gave full country has completely made a mess backing to this Ordinance in the hope of its foreign policy not only in the that it would benefit the workers in past but also at present. The Govern­ this country. Unfortunately, to the ment has not formed a policy which regret of the Unions and the workers, is consistent, which is carried out the intended objects have not been properly and efficiently. The foreign fulfilled by persons responsible in the policy of this Government has been Government. Today millions of dollars repeatedly changed; it has been are being collected from the workers inconsistent and it has been too pro- but the administration has failed to win United States. The situation which has the confidence of the workers who are arisen in Cuba draws the attention of partly contributing towards this Fund. every individual in this House and all Firstly, we do not know where these should think for a moment what stand funds have been invested, who are the Malayan Government should take utilising these funds, how much of towards Cuba. The recent statement interest has been collected from the by President Kennedy has clearly various persons by lending this money, how the administration is being admitted that the United States had organised and how the funds are being been instrumental in the aggression safeguarded. Sir, according to my ex­ committed in the Cuban territory. perience, when one desires to withdraw Sir, the United States has been the money after retirement, he cannot responsible, and is responsible, for easily do so. The whole accounting leading the world into a cold war. If procedure and the entire system of we believe in good international rela­ running the Employees Provident Fund tions and international peace, I feel have not resulted in its efficient running. that the Malayan Government should These remarks have been repeatedly take a stand and make an outright brought to the attention of the Minister condemnation of the United States in concerned, and all these have not been regard to aggression in Cuba. Sir, no­ borne in mind for the improvement of body can deny the fact that the the administration of the funds of the American Government has been the public. cause of the troubles in Cuba. The revolutionary group, and anti-Govern­ Sir, I, therefore, call upon the ment ground, has been accommodated Government to take interest in by the United States Government in administering this Fund with a view to New York, and they have been provi­ ensuring that the money would not be ded with every facility to disrupt the misused and that it would be safe­ democratic Government administered guarded in the interests of the contri­ by Dr. Fidel Castro. Sir, if the United butors. States is going to interfere .... 215 21 APRIL 1961 216 Mr. Speaker: How is that relevant when such an establishment is created to the debate on the motion before the in this country the managerial side House. I have been very patient. would be made to realise that, among all factors, the human factor is the most Enche' V. David: I am touching on important factor. Thank you. international relations, Sir. While making remarks on the Cuban situation, Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah I am trying to emphasise that the (Kota Bharu Hilir): Tuan Yang di- Malayan Government should come out Pertua, saya bangun ada-lah menyo­ with a clear cut statement. If our kong pindaan yang telah di-buat oleh Government is really interested in Ahli Yang Berhormat wakil dari international peace, this is the right Bachok. Dalam uchapan saya bagi moment for the Government to state menyokong pindaan tersebut saya akan where it stands—whether it stands with menyentoh beberapa masaalah2 yang the people of Cuba, or is it going to be telah terkandong dalam titah di-raja the tool of President Kennedy and his yang ada di-hadapan kita ini. Dalam Government. titah di-raja pada muka yang pertama Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Sir, in the Gracious Speech, mention Baginda Yang di-Pertuan Agong ber- has been made of West Irian. At the titah kata-nya— last meeting of the previous Session, we discovered that the Prime Minister dan juga dengan sa-berapa daya had given up hope of his intention to upaya Beta dengan pertunjok Allah Subha- mediate in the West Irian problem, but nahu-wata'ala memelihara akan dasar^ demokrasi dan pemerentahan yang berper- today I understand that he is making lembagaan. further attempts. However, before making any attempt towards this direc­ Ini ia-lah satu uchapan yang sangat tion, I would call upon this Govern­ kena pada tempat-nya yang kita saka- ment to make a statement whether it is lian mesti mengikuti-nya. Ada-lah dasar with the people of Indonesia in their democracy ini ia-lah terkandong dalam struggle to obtain the West Irian terri­ Perlembagaan kita ia-itu satu dasar tory, or is it with the Dutch in respect yang sangat tinggi bagi kemajuan of the West Irian problem. Once such manusia dalam dunia ini, tetapi apa a statement is made in this House, we yang telah berlaku di-dalam amalan would know towards which direction Kerajaan Federal sangat-lah berlainan the Prime Minister is moving. daripada perkataan-nya. Kita pada pagi Further, we have discovered that the tadi maseh lagi ingat bahawa sa-nya Prime Ministers of various countries Yang Berhormat Menteri Pengangkutan have been invited to this country, and telah dengan nyaring berkata bahawa sa-nya Kerajaan Perikatan tidak sa- I fail to understand why an invitation 2 2 has not been extended to the President kali menganak-tirikan Kerajaan of Indonesia. I hope that in future Negeri yang di-pegang oleh Kerajaan PAS, dan dia sendiri telah menyebut- invitations, the Honourable the Prime 2 Minister will bear this in mind. kan banyak kenyataan yang kita telah dengar daripada-nya itu. Bagi men- Sir, I welcome the move by the jawab-nya suka-lah saya hendak Ministry concerned to set up a Produc­ menerangkan dan hendak memberi tivity Centre in this country. The kenyataan2 yang chukup terang dan setting up of a Productivity Centre has jelas bahawa sa-nya ada-lah political been a long overdue question and has apartheid telah dan sedang di-jalankan been of deep concern to the trade oleh Kerajaan Perikatan dalam Tanah unions in this country, and we are Melayu ini dan saya akan menyebut- happy to note that such a centre is kan satu persatu kenyataan2 yang tidak going to be established. However, even dapat di-napikan. Kita tahu sa-tengah though such a centre is established in daripada-nya bahawa sa-nya sa-belum this country, employers should not be pilehan raya Negeri pada tahun 1959 given the impression that productivity telah di-jalankan maka Kerajaan increase can be obtained through the Federal telah berchadang dan telah expense of human values. I hope that menetapkan bahawa sa-nya satu titi 217 21 APRIL 1961 218 yang besar akan di-buat, di-bena di- Tuan Yang di-Pertua, di-dalam Titah Pasir Mas dalam negeri Kelantan, di-Raja pada muka 4 ada di-sebutkan: tetapi sa-telah kechewa Parti Perikatan "Lembaga Kemajuan Kampong dan dalam pilehan raya tersebut maka titi Perusahaan yang telah mengambil bahagian 2 penting dalam usaha memajukan kawasan2 yang di-ura kan atau pun ketetapan 2 luar bandar akan terus menggalakkan orang yang telah di-buat untok hendak mem- kampong menubohkan perusahaan kampong bena titi itu sa-hingga sekarang ini dan perusahaan kechil dan juga akan meng- utamakan perkara mengadakan kemudahan2 tidak dapat di-buat. Ini ada-lah satu 2 tanda yang terang bahawa sa-nya bagi menyelenggara dan menjual barang political apartheid telah di-jalankan kampong." dan di-amalkan oleh Kerajaan Per­ Ini ia-lah dengan tujuan hendak ikatan. Banyak perkara2 yang lain lagi menambah pendapatan mereka itu. Per­ yang saya akan sebutkan buat pen- kara ini kita sakalian telah ketahui jelasan bagi Ahli2 Yang Berhormat bahawa RIDA telah menjalankan ber- dalam Majlis ini atau dalam Rumah ini. macham2 perusahaan di-kampong2. Tetapi, ada-kah perusahaan yang di- Kerajaan Kelantan telah membuat dirikan itu yang telah di-jalankan oleh satu ranchangan yang paling besar RIDA telah mendapat kejayaan? Kita faedah-nya kapada ra'ayat jelata di- maseh ingat lagi bahawa baharu2 ini sana ia-itu yang di-namakan Sekim kita ada mendengar Van yang di-penohi Kemubu. Sekim Kemubu ini ia-lah satu dengan barang2 yang di-buat daripada ranchangan untok membuat tali-ayer kampong2 dan di-jual ka-merata2 tem- yang akan memberi ayer kapada sawah pat dalam Tanah Melayu, tetapi padi yang tidak kurang daripada sekarang ini kita tidak mendengar lagi 44,000 ekar. Tetapi oleh kerana PAS apa yang telah di-jalankan itu, bahkan memerentah negeri Kelantan, maka yang kita dengar perusahaan itu tidak ranchangan itu di-ketepikan oleh dapat di-jual kerana tidak ada pasaran Kerajaan Perikatan .... atau pun susah hendak mendapat pasaran. Dan baharu2 ini pula kita AN HONOURABLE MEMBER: Buat mendengar dalam surat khabar me- sendiri! nyatakan bahawa Yang Berhormat Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah: Menteri Pertanian dan Sharikat Kerja- Ya, boleh buat sendiri kata Ahli Yang sama terpaksa menutup tidak kurang Berhormat itu, tetapi ia sendiri tahu daripada 60 sharikat kerjasama, kerana bahawa ini ada-lah kewajipan Kerajaan pada pandangan-nya bahawa sharikat Federal . . . itu tidak dapat berjalan sa-bagaimana yang di-chadangkan. Ini ada-lah satu Mr. Speaker: Saya chuma hendak kenyataan kapada kita bahawa sharikat mengingatkan, perkara2 yang tuan kerjasama itu meleset. Tetapi ada-kah chakapkan itu telah di-sebutkan oleh Menteri yang berkenaan menubohkan ahli yang dahulu daripada tuan. Kalau satu "Commission" untok menyiasat tuan mengulangi banyak masa Majlis apa-kah sebab2-nya maka 60 buah ini hilang, kalau hendak ulang saya sharikat kerjasama itu terpaksa di- benarkan, tetapi jangan panjang. Per­ tutup? Tidak ada "Commission" yang kara2 ini saya dengar sudah di-sebut­ tersebut untok menyiasat. 2 kan oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat Dalam Titah di-Raja pada muka 5 daripada PAS. ada mengatakan antara lain: Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah: "Berkenaan dengan perusahaan nanas, Kerajaan Beta akan menchuba dengan sa- Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya akan pen- berapa boleh, melaksanakan keputusan2 dekkan. Jadi dengan keterangan yang yang tersebut dalam Kertas Perentah Nom- saya sebutkan tadi nampak-lah dengan bor 19 Tahun 1960. Ada-lah di-harap dengan di-sempurnakan keputusan2 itu keadaan jelas-nya bahawa "political apartheid" perusahaan2 pada *am-nya akan bertambah sedang di-jalankan dan di-amalkan oleh baik. Dalam Ranchangan Kemajuan Lima Kerajaan Perikatan. Walhal Kerajaan Tahun Yang Kedua peruntokan bagi Perikatan beribu batu pergi menyokong menubohkan Kilang Kebangsaan Mengetin dan menolong atau pun hendak me- nanas telah di-sediakan." musnahkan Apartheid yang di-jalankan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam perkara di-South Africa. ini saya ada berchakap dahulu, tetapi 219 21 APRIL 1961 220 saya hendak tambah sadikit perkara2 negeri kita ini. Oleh yang demikian yang telah saya chakapkan dahulu itu. tetap 100 peratus ranchangan ini akan Perkara ini ia-lah ranchangan hendak berjaya kerana kita tahu 2/3 daripada mendirikan satu kilang nanas yang pendudok2 Tanah Melayu ini semua- akan memakan belanja sa-banyak $5 nya bekerja berchuchok tanam yang juta sa-bagaimana yang ada tersebut memang berhajatkan kapada baja, Tuan dalam Development Estimates itu ada- Yang di-Pertua. Akan tetapi apabila lah satu ranchangan yang sangat Menteri Pertanian kita meminta wang merbahaya. Sebab2-nya saya akan kapada Kerajaan untok mendirikan sebutkan satu persatu. Kita telah ke­ Kilang Urea itu Kerajaan tidak mahu tahui bahawa ada-lah nanas tin yang memberi-nya. Menteri tersebut telah di-keluarkan oleh South Africa, Hawai memaksa orang2 Melayu yang miskin dan West Indies dan lain2 negeri itu sa-bagaimana yang ada tersebut di- banyak yang mana telah menawan dalam Titah di-Raja: "Oleh kerana pasaran dunia, kerana mutu (quality) memikirkan betapa mustahak-nya ban- barang2 yang di-keluarkan oleh negeri2 tuan ekonomi negeri ini dan Kerajaan itu baik. Pasaran dunia telah di-tawan hendak mengurangkan angkara ke- oleh barang2 nanas yang di-keluarkan kurangan modal dan pengaroh2 orang oleh negeri2 yang saya sebutkan tadi. tengah itu ia-lah di-dalam perkara Tiba2 kita baharu chuba hendak men­ kesusahan orang2 kampong, maka dirikan satu kilang yang akan me­ Kerajaan Beta sentiasa akan mem- makan belanja sa-banyak $5 juta, yang perkuat dan menggalakkan" dan sa- mana berhajat kapada advertisements, bagai-nya, itu ada-lah fact. Orang2 management dan yang berhajat kapada Melayu dalam negeri ini kerana bermacham2 tenaga supaya kita dapat kemiskinan-nya tidak dapat hidup sa- masokkan nanas itu ka-dalam Inter­ umpama bangsa2 lain. Kerajaan hendak national market. Walhal kita tahu memaksa mereka itu juga supaya turun naik (fluctuation) harga nanas membeli sher2 Kilang Urea itu dan tin paling besar sa-kali, ini-lah satu kalau tidak, Kerajaan tidak akan diri- perkara yang sangat merbahaya yang kan kilang itu. Ini ada-lah policy akan merugikan ranchangan yang akan Kerajaan Perikatan terhadap orang2 di-churahkan wang $5 juta itu. Sunggoh Melayu. Walhal, kita tahu bahawa padi pun kedudokan ranchangan ini burok, dan beras yang di-usahakan oleh mereka tetapi oleh kerana Kerajaan hendak itu ada-lah makanan yang sangat membela satu pehak maka Kerajaan mustahak bagi pendudok2 negeri ini. telah persetujukan ranchangan ini Di-dalam muka 7 Duli Yang Maha walau $5 juta akan di-churahkan, Mulia ada menyebut berkenaan dengan walhal Yang Berhormat Menteri Per- pengkalan penerbangan 'am ia-itu sa- tanian kita dengan segala daya upaya- buah pengkalan kapal terbang antara- nya telah meminta kapada Kerajaan bangsa yang akan di-bena di-Kuala supaya menyokong ranchangan kilang Lumpur. Sa-bagaimana yang kita baja urea, tetapi apa-kah telah di-buat ketahui padang kapal terbang itu akan oleh Kerajaan kapada ranchangan-nya, memakan belanja tidak kurang dari­ kita maseh ingat lagi bahawa Menteri pada 50 juta ringgit. Dan bantahan2 tersebut membuat satu uchapan tentang daripada beberapa pehak dan sa- perkara Kilang Urea di-Pulau Pinang tengah daripada pegawai2 Kerajaan yang berkata bahawa Perdana Menteri terpaksa berhenti daripada jawatan-nya, Tunku Abdul Rahman telah me- kerana membantah ranchangan itu. nyokong-nya. Pada esok-nya kita telah Kuala Lumpur ini bukan-lah dudok- membacha satu siaran daripada Yang nya di-dalam jalan International Road Amat Berhormat Tunku Abdul atau pun di-tengah2 jalan antara kapal Rahman bahawa ia tidak ada masok terbang yang melalui' Singapura atau champor tangan di-dalam ranchangan Bangkok terus ka-Eropah. Berapa buah ini. Walhal ranchangan Kilang Urea ia- sahaja kapal2 terbang yang besar2 lah satu ranchangan baja yang kita yang turun di-padang kapal terbang di- sudah tahu bahawa market-nya tetap Kuala Lumpur ini. Bilangan2-nya ada di-dalam negeri ini dan demand- ada-lah sangat sadikit. Kalau kita nya pun 100 peratus terjamin di-dalam pandang dari segi investment dengan 221 21 APRIL 1961 222 wang yang kita akan churahkan sa- College, maka jawab-nya bagitu juga. banyak 50 juta ringgit itu sudah tentu Sakian-lah sahaja, Tuan Yang di- sadikit pun tidak akan mendatangkan Pertua. untong. Chuma nama sahaja. Oh! Malaya ada mempunyai satu padang Enche' Lee San Choon (Kluang kapal terbang antara-bangsa yang Utara): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I note that paling elok, walhal ra'ayat jelata di- the Honourable Member for Bungsar, kampong2 meleset di-dalam kehidupan a member of the Socialist Front which yang 'azab sangsara dan kemiskinan. is on the way to political bankruptcy, has at last joined the P.P.P. in blaming Di-dalam muka 7 ada pula tersebut the Malayan Chinese Association perkara labour—buroh. Berkenaan Youth Section. Mr. Speaker, Sir, dengan Menteri Buroh ia telah mem- although the Honourable Member for beri kapada saya buku2 kechil atau Ipoh is not here and neither is the risalat di-persidangan Parlimen bulan Honourable Member for Bungsar, I February yang lalu yang mana me- hope they will hear what I have to say ngandongi satu ranchangan untok somehow. hendak memberi pelajaran melateh 2 While debating on the amendment kanak kita di-dalam lapangan Radio, 2 made on the resolution by the Honou­ peti sejok dan lain lagi. Maka saya rable Member for Larut Selatan, the pun membuat-lah satu soalan kapada Menteri tersebut untok hendak me- Honourable Member for Ipoh referred ngetahu'i berapa banyak-kah anak2 to the speech of our Prime Minister at Melayu yang di-beri latehan di-dalam Jinjang last night and he eloquently perkara2 itu. Jawab-nya sila-lah tuan2 alleged that the members of the M.C.A. tatap Kertas Dewan Ra'ayat Written Youth Section or the Mah Ching are Answer to Question bertarikh 20hb thugs and that we are encouraging April di-muka 10. Saya bertanya ka­ thugs. As Secretary-General of the pada Menteri Buroh: Berapa banyak- Malayan Chinese Association Youth kah murid2 yang di-lateh di-dalam Section, I feel it is my duty to reply tahun 1959-60? Dan apa-kah jenis to him as such. I fully realise, of latehan-nya yang telah di-berikan kapada course, that the Honourable Member mereka. Enche' Bahaman bin Samsudin for Ipoh is a learned lawyer and in his menjawab: Bilangan apprentice2 yang eloquent speech he has always di-lateh dan jenis latehan-nya ia-lah managed to distort the facts—the pertama-nya fitting, tahun 1959 ada 61 undeniable facts. orang, sa-terus-nya jadi jumlah 331 Sir, the M.C.A. Youth Section in orang. Buat tahun 1959 dan 1960, ada Malaya or the Mah Ching strongly 226 orang. Di-bawah-nya ada tulisan believes that a democratic institution kechil bunyi-nya bilangan mengikut exists in this country and would up­ bangsa2 tidak ada di-simpan. Ha! itu hold such an institution at all costs. ia-lah satu helah untok hendak me- (Applause). In the words of our ngelirukan supaya jangan tembelang beloved Prime Minister last night, we yang busok itu dapat di-ketahui oleh have pledged to uphold the principles ra'ayat. Walhal bilangan kanak2 itu of democracy with determination and chuma 331 orang sahaja. Menteri itu courage, because we feel that for the boleh bertanya kapada Pengarah Pusat people to live in peace and happiness Latehan itu menanyakan berapa orang depends entirely upon them. Sir, it is anak2 Melayu yang mendapat latehan. with such firm belief that, in spite of Di-dalam masa 5 minit sahaja tetap ia the numerous cases where members of akan mendapat jawapan-nya. Tetapi the Youth Section were bullied, intimi­ kenapa-kah Yang Berhormat itu tidak dated and beaten up, the M.C.A. membuat yang demikian, kerana Youth Section did not retaliate. Today sudah yakin tidak ada anak2 Melayu the M.C.A. Youth Section is a vast yang di-beri latehan dalam apprentice organisation with a total membership itu. Pada tempoh yang lalu saya ber­ of more than 50,000, much more than tanya tentang bilangan anak2 Melayu that of all the members of the P.P.P. yang belajar di-dalam Technical and the Socialist Front put together in 223 21 APRIL 1961 224 this country. Again, in the words of Front continue to intimidate our the Tengku, if the Alliance retaliates youths. with violence, democracy would become However, Sir, I think the Honou­ a farce and so peace and happiness rable Member for Ipoh is rich and would be shattered. It is with this wealthy enough not to require part of principle of democracy and free elec­ the $16,000 mentioned. Here, Sir, is a tion that we gather strength from day case where the Honourable Member to day, and we will no doubt continue for Ipoh deliberately tried to distort to gather strength from day to day. the facts. We raised the money to Sir, with regard to the allegation protect the democratic principles and made on the Legal Defence Fund, I to uphold law and order—not as the charge that the Honourable Member for legal aid fund as he tried to mislead Ipoh is a Max.(Interruption). the House into believing by saying that we raised the legal aid fund to defend Mr. Speaker: Will you withdraw that our members, and hence encouraging word "liar"? It is unparliamentary. thugs and gangsters. This matter has Enche' Lee San Choon: Yes. Any­ been widely publicised and properly way, he is not telling the truth. Here reported in the Chinese papers at that is the fact. At the recent Delegates time. I am sorry indeed that the Conference of the M.C.A. Youth Honourable Member has interpreted Section of Malaya, it was reported that wrongly from the Chinese papers. A numerous incidents had happened challenge was made just now, or rather when our members were bullied, this morning, to point out members of intimidated and beaten up by members secret societies among the Peoples' of the Socialist Front or the P.P.P. It Progressive Party officials. I do not was then suggested that a Legal Aid know whether there are any as every­ Fund be established in order to protect one in this country knows, as well as our youths from being intimidated or I do, that the Peoples' Progressive beaten up by the thugs. We do not Party belongs to the Seenivasagam like to resort to violence. The very Brothers only. fact that members of the M.C.A. Youth Section were always beaten Enche' Chan Yoon Onn (Kampar): speaks for itself. Why were not the Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish to clarify that Socialist Front members beaten up? the Peoples' Progressive Party does Why were not the members of the not belong to the Seenivasagam P.P.P. beaten up? Sir, the spontaneous Brothers. I am a member of the response to the call for a Legal Aid Peoples' Progressive party. Fund is a clear indication that we Mr. Speaker: (To Enche' Lee San believe in law and order. During that Choon) I do not think you can say Delegates Conference, within one hour that. of the motion moved, a sum of more Enche' Lee San Choon: However, I than $16,000 was raised from the would like to emphasise that the delegates. Again, as the Secretary- M.C.A. Youth Section does not and General, I am proud of that. I am will never encourage! thugs and gangs- proud because our members love sters. If as alleged the Honourable freedom and would go all out to help Member for Ipoh has the names and to maintain law and order. I would particulars of members who are also like to assure the Honourable Member members of secret societies, it is his for Ipoh and the Honourable Member duty as a good citizen of this country, for Bungsar that, should the members as he claims to be, to report to the of the M.C.A. Youth Section be Police, and our able and efficient assaulted any more, we would have no Minister of Internal Security will deal hesitation to take them to Court. Sir, with it accordingly. For the Honou­ we raised $16,000 within one hour, rable Member for Ipoh to attack and we are confident that we could members who are not here to defend have much more support or aid if themselves, I think, it is most unfair members of the P.P.P. and Socialist and unstatesmanlike. 225 21 APRIL 1961 226 I am sure that my colleague, the challenge in respect of the Malayan Honourable Senator Yeoh Kian Teik, Chinese Youth organisation in this who has also been attacked today House. Sir, I would like to take this would not allow such a serious allega­ opportunity to refer to the part of His tion to be overlooked in the Senate. Majesty's Speech concerning the Government's policy to continue to Sir, as far as the Jinjang incident is encourage the establishment of small concerned, I would like to quote an industries and also to encourage the eye-witness, who is none other than increase in production of other crops the Honourable the Minister of Health such as oil palm, coconut, and coffee. and Social Welfare, and who was there I am particularly happy to hear the when the case was reported. He said, assurance that every Ministry concerned "A few moments after arrival at the will participate to the fullest extent to police station, I saw five youths, carry out this important task. This good including a girl of the M.C.A. Youth news will particularly cheer up those Section, brought in, with four male depressed coffee planters who are now youths suffering from head injuries and facing a hard time, as a result of the bleeding from their heads and the slump in coffee price and I wish to female youth suffering from bodily emphasise that the coffee industry is injuries. Subsequently another six facing a real crisis; and if the Govern­ M.C.A. youths were brought in suffer­ ment does not give it adequate support ing from bodily injuries. All the and encouragement in good time then injured persons were made to report it will die a natural death. to the/ police station, etc." Sir, the price of coffee seeds in 1952 Sir, the Honourable Member for was about $280 per pikul, whereas the Bungsar just now accused us of being current price is only about $75. From undemocratic and that we had been these figures, one will appreciate to badly beaten in the Jinjang Local what extent these coffee planters are Council election. Here is the fact—and suffering. This is the third time that I I challenge him to deny it. Last year have brought up this matter with the at the Jinjang Local Council election— object of enlisting the sympathy and the only stronghold of the Socialist support of the Ministry concerned in Front in the whole of Malaya—we lost order to save this crop from disappear­ by 1,400 over votes. One year ance. But to date, nothing encouraging after that we lost by 400 votes. If not has transpired from that Ministry. Due for the ugly fight we would have won to the poor price of coffee seeds, the all the Jinjang seats. I challenge the coffee planters are gradually trans­ Honourable Member to deny this, and forming themselves into rubber planters, I also challenge him to deny that in all and this trend is certainly not consistent Local Councils in Johore the Alliance with the Government's policy of has won more than 80 per cent in diversifying the primary products of respect of Local Council elections. our country so that the people will not be solely dependent on rubber. It will Enche' Lee Siok Yew (Sepang): Mr. be a pity if no efforts are made to check Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the this trend which will only lead to one motion by the Honourable Member for result, and that is to reduce the coffee Larut Selatan that an humble Address industry into a moribund state. More­ be presented to His Majesty the Yang over, there are approximately 20,000 di-Pertuan Agong as follows: people who are dependent on the coffee "Your Majesty, crop for their daily food. Given a We, the Speaker and Members of the proper measure of encouragement, I Dewan Ra'ayat of the Federation of Malaya am sure that this industry will help to in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer contribute to more diversification of Your Majesty our humble thanks for the Malaya's economy. Gracious Speech with which the Third Session of the Parliament has been opened. In view of these facts I therefore urge Sir, I have no intention to participate the Honourable the Minister of Agricul­ any more in the debate regarding the ture and Co-operatives to consider the 227 21 APRIL 1961 228 setting up of a Commission to investi­ contract. It is known that Japan has gate into such matters as: surplus doctors, and the professional (a) cost of production and the standard of these doctors is high. The economic price level for coffee strengthening of the senior medical seeds; staff will obviously improve the existing standard of our medical service and (b) what are the factors which cause will go a long way to help the general the price of coffee seeds to public. By reducing the heavy pressure slump to the present unecono­ of work on the existing medical officers, mic level; Sir, the patients will get considerable (c) marketing facilities; and benefit, as they will get better attention. (d) what measures should be taken by the Ministry to protect this Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would also like primary crop and to help it to to refer to the matter of Education. I flourish. am sure everyone is aware of the comparatively poor examination results In my opinion, Sir, this matter merits as obtained by many of our schools in every consideration by the Ministry recent years. I am inclined to think that concerned, as it affects the livelihood such poor results are directly due to of no less than 20,000 people. There­ the present system of automatic pro­ fore, I hope that the Honourable motion for pupils in schools. Personally, Minister will give due consideration to I feel that such a system only helps to this matter at an early date. encourage indolence amongst the pupils Mr. Speaker, Sir, referring to public and teachers alike. If I were a pupil, health, all of us are aware that there is I would say to myself: "I shall put a shortage of doctors for quite some away the books; there is no exami­ time, and, according to the figures nation to fear for." I also observed available, the ratio is one doctor to that certain teachers do not take the every 7,000 of the population. Public trouble to correct the exercises done by Health is a matter of vital importance, their pupils. Such an attitude on the Sir, and I therefore urge the Minister of part of the teachers only help to encourage the boys to take an apathetic Health and Social Welfare to consider attitude towards their lessons, with the thef recruitment of an adequate number result that when the final examinations of doctors at an early date. It will be do come these pupils are caught. What realised that the majority of the results do we expect in these circum­ patients come from poor families and stances? Of course, only 40 per cent. to engage the services of private This is indeed a sad thing to happen practitioners is definitely not within to a young nation like Malaya whose their means. But when these poor future is very much dependent on the people are taken ill, the only place for younger generation now at school. I them to go to for treatment is the would attribute such poor achieve­ Government hospital, where they can ments of our schools to the present get free or cheaper medicine. Due to system of automatic promotion, which the shortage of doctors, the existing has the effect of robbing the initiative doctors and their staff are not only and the spirit of hard work from the overworked, but such a situation is also pupils and the teachers. I therefore detrimental to the welfare of the sick in urge the Honourable Minister of Edu­ that patients have to wait for long cation to review the present system of hours before their turn to see a doctor automatic promotion in order to deter­ finally comes. Such long hours of mine whether it is justified to alter it waiting is certainly a torture to a sick for the benefit of our children. person. May I, therefore, suggest that if all the existing vacancies in the Medical Enche' S. P. Seenivasagam (Meng- Officers establishment could not be lembu): Mr. Speaker, Sir, on a point of filled locally, expatriate doctors from order. While we are prepared, I am overseas countries, such as Japan and sure, to make allowances for the other countries, be considered for Honourable Member, I think this is a appointment on, say, a three-year clear case of reading. It seems to me 229 21 APRIL 1961 230 that he has got several pages more, Parlimen yang pertama dan yang Sir. (Laughter). kedua, Duli Yang Maha Mulia ada Mr. Speaker: Will you try to glance bertitah yang berbunyi— at your notes? Sa-suatu chadangan yang baik patut di- sokong oleh semua parti dengan tidak meng- Enche' Lee Siok Yew: Sir, I have hiraukan dari mana terbit-nya chadangan only the last question which I want itu. Semua parti ada mempunyai' kewajipan- to bring up here. Somebody can speak nya terhadap ra'ayat jelata negeri ini. here for a few hours, Sir, but I am Bagitu-lah uchapan Titah di-Raja pada taking not more than ten minutes. penggal yang pertama dan yang kedua, (Laughter). tetapi pada kali ini, Tuan Yang di- Mr. Speaker: It is not a question of Pertua, berbunyi— the time taken up by you. The question, Beta sangat2 tertarek hati di-atas perasaan muhibbah yang bertambah- baik di-antara which the Honourable Member has ahli2 pehak Kerajaan dan ahli2 pehak pem- raised on a point of order, is that you bangkang, baik di-dalam Dewan ini mahu were reading your speech, which is not pun di-luar . . ... allowed in this House, and I am Tetapi, suntok dua hari lama-nya saya advising you just to glance at it. Do telah bersabar mendengar hujah2 yang not read it. (Laughter). di-keluarkan oleh parti2 pembangkang. Enche' Lee Siok Yew: Mr. Speaker, Nampak-nya ahli2 dari parti pembang­ Sir, please spare me a few minutes kang telah pula menunjokkan belang more as I intend to say a few words mereka. Mereka menunjokkan sentimen on a subject which concerns our rural parti untok mengeluarkan hujah2 dalam development plan. Everyone will agree Dewan ini, tetapi pada keselurohan- with me if I say this: that this Five- nya dalam uchapan Titah di-Raja ini Year Plan is indeed a good and com­ ada-lah satu Titah yang merupakan prehensive plan aiming at improving satu hasrat yang sa-benar-nya bertujuan the lot of the rural people in particular. hendak membaiki taraf hidup ra'ayat The rural people are cherishing the day di-negara ini. Sunggoh pun perjalanan when the Plan will bring result home to parti siasah ada-lah berlainan dasar them. ideology-nya tetapi kita semua tahu dasar Kerajaan Perikatan-lah yang Mr. Speaker, Sir, in my constituency, 2 Sepang, there is a coastal strip. The sa-habis baik bagi ra'ayat negeri ini people say that their most immediate supaya mereka dapat hidup dengan concern is to appeal to the Minister of aman sentosa dan ma'amor. Agriculture and Co-operatives to take Saya sedeh mendengar serangan2 immediate steps to construct a coastal daripada parti2 pembangkang ia-itu bund for about a mile in distance in daripada Parti PAS, Parti Socialist order to prevent further soil erosion Front dan juga PPP. Serangan2 yang in this fishing village where there are chukup kasar, lebeh daripada harimau over 6,000 people. Each year the sea yang ganas terhadap Yang Berhormat encroaches upon the dry land of this Perdana Menteri dan juga Menteri2 village to the extent of about 50 feet yang lain. Ini boleh di-katakan saperti along the coastal strip where over 100 pepatah Melayu: "Kuman di-seberang houses are situated adjacent to the laut kita nampak, tetapi gajah di-tepi seaside; if the erosion is not checked, mata kita ta' nampak." Mereka chuma then these houses will be swallowed up mengajar sa-bagai ketam mengajar by the sea in the foreseeable future. anak-nya berjalan betul, tetapi mereka Therefore, I trust that the Minister concerned will give urgent considera­ sendiri ta' betul berjalan. Dalam Titah tion to this appeal. Thank you, Sir. di-Rajaberkenaan dengan Pembangunan Luar Bandar, saya mengambil peluang Enche' Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman di-sini menguchapkan terima kaseh di- (Seberang Tengah): Tuan Yang di- atas kejayaan2 yang ada yang telah Pertua, saya bangun ada-lah mengu- kita nampak di-dalam kawasan kita chapkan tahniah di-atas Titah Duli sendiri. Ini menunjokkan ia-itu ran- Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda changan Buku Merah telah pun ber­ Yang di-Pertuan Agong. Pada penggai jalan dengan chukup lichin dan chukup 231 21 APRIL 1961 232 sempurna, tetapi pada pehak Parti Enche' Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: Islam sa-Tanah Melayu bahawa ran- Ya, wakil Tanah Merah, dan lain2 changan Buku Merah ini ta' sa-suai lagi. Ini terserah-lah kapada Jawatan- malah mereka merasa megah dan Kuasa Penyiasat yang telah di-tuboh- bangga dengan ranchangan Buku Ku- kan baharu2 ini, maka saya perchaya ning yang ada dalam negeri2 Pantai wakil dari Tanah Merah pun telah Timor ia-itu Kelantan dan Trengganu. membuat laporan dan telah pun meng- Saya mendapat tahu berkenaan dengan hantar—saya rasa kapada pehak perusahan yang di-adakan di-sana Jawatan-Kuasa ini. Ini kita hendak-lah bahawa Pengerusi Lembaga Kemajuan sama2 menunggu, sa-hingga kita men­ Tanah telah mendapat allowance dapat segala laporan yang akan di- motor-car sa-lama 6 bulan sahaja bentangkan kapada kita nanti. lebeh daripada $4,000 tetapi wakil2 ra'ayat di-negeri lain ta' ada satu sen Di-atas soal pelajaran ugama, pehak pun mereka dapat. Parti Islam sa-Tanah Melayu tidak $a- orang pun yang bangun berchakap Enche' Zulkiflee bin Muhammad: tadi menguchapkan terima kaseh atau On a point of order—36 (1). la ber- berasa bangga kerana Kerajaan telah chakap satu perkara berkenaan dengan menguntokkan dalam meshuarat be- lanjawan yang lalu sa-banyak $21/2 juta Pengerusi Tanah dengan perkara 2 Negeri, yang saya tahu berkenaan untok guru ugama di-Sekolah Kebang- dengan orang itu. saan dan Jenis Kebangsaan. Ini patut sa-kali Parti Islam yang Mr. Speaker: Jangan chakap ber­ menganut pada ajaran Koran dan kenaan perkara hak Negeri—hak hadith itu menguchapkan terima kaseh, Federal boleh. State matters ta' boleh. tetapi tidak sa-patah pun Ahli itu Proceed. menyebutkan dan ta' sa-patah pun Enche9 Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: menguchapkan terima kaseh kapada Dalam perkara Titah ini, berkenaan Kerajaan. * dengan kerjasama Negeri, maka sebab Berkenaan dengan Titah di-Raja ten- itu-lah saya mengambil kesempatan ia- tang soal luar negeri, banyak Ahli2 itu menunjokkan bahawa ada Negeri yang telah berchakap, tetapi wakil dari yang tidak bekerjasama dengan pehak Bungsar mengatakan pendirian Ke­ Kerajaan Pusat. Dalam lawatan Yang rajaan Perikatan ini ta' tegas. Saya suka Berhormat Menteri2 Perikatan ka-Pantai menyatakan dalam manifesto Perikatan Timor ada-lah sa-benar-nya hendak me­ ia-itu segala janji2 Perikatan telah pun nunjokkan pada ra'ayat di-sana betapa Kerajaan tunaikan, tetapi saya hairan burok-nya dan betapa-kah chuai-nya oleh sebab wakil Bungsar tadi dengan wakil2 daripada Parti Islam sa-Tanah terang2 menunjokkan belang-nya ia-itu Melayu terhadap ra'ayat yang telah ia bertanya kenapa-kah Kerajaan Per- mengundi mereka itu. Jadi ini bukan- sekutuan tidak bersuara kapada Cuba— lah tujuan Menteri2 Perikatan itu hen­ Castro dan lain2 lagi. dak menghasut atau sa-bagai-nya sa- bagaimana yang di-tudoh oleh Ahli Tetapi ia menudoh pula yang Ke­ Yang Berhormat dari Bachok mengata- rajaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu sa- kan Yang Berhormat Menteri Ke- bagai "tool Amerika" atau "perkakas" selamatan Dalam Negeri yang ia ia-lah Amerika. Tetapi soal Laos, Ahli Yang sa-orang Ketua Kongsi Gelap. Berhormat dari Bungsar tidak menegor, Dalam soal pelajaran ada juga Ahli sebab mereka itu selalu pro kominis, Yang Berhormat wakil dari Bachok pro Russia—tidak pro kominis pun- menudoh Kerajaan di-atas kelemahan pro Russia, kerana Russia ada champor murid2 Melayu, oleh sebab sekolah2- tangan di-Laos. Maka dalam perkara 2 ini saya berasa hairan di-atas pendirian nya kechil, rumah guru ta' bagitu dan sikap Socialist Front. Dan juga elok wakil dari Damansara mengatakan Enche' Zulkiflee bin Muhammad: Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu Untok penjelasan, Tuan Yang di- tidak berdiri tegas dan tidak menyo- Pertua, wakil Tanah Merah. kong di-atas perjuangan Angola untok 233 21 APRIL 1961 234 menchapai kemerdekaan, dan juga wakil dari Ipoh yang mengatakan tidak mendesak Kerajaan British supaya pemuda M.C.A. terdiri banyak daripada membebaskan Jomo Kenyatta ia-itu Mah Cheng dan Wah Kie atau kongsi pemimpin Mau-Mau di-Kenya. Jadi gelap. Saya suka memberi tahu dalam ini semua menunjokkan pendirian Dewan ini, ia-itu jangan-lah menudoh masing2 parti. Tetapi walau bagaimana pemuda M.C.A. sahaja atau lain2 pun, saya perchaya dasar luar negeri pemuda, tetapi dalam P.P.P juga saya kita sangat-lah memuaskan, langkah perchaya ada, kerana bukti-nya pada dan pendirian Yang Teramat Mulia tahun sudah ia-itu sa-hari ter- Perdana Menteri ada-lah tegas, yang dahulu daripada lawatan Yang Amat mana hampir seluroh dunia telah mem- Berhormat Perdana Menteri ka-Se- berikan uchapan tahniah kapada Yang berang Tengah untok membuka satu Teramat Mulia Perdana Menteri, dan chawangan U.M.N.O., polis telah me- yang tidak memberi uchapan tahniah nangkap sa-orang pemuda China dekat dan berasa tidak puas hati di-atas dengan Juru ia-itu satu sungai. Pemuda langkah Yang Teramat Mulia itu ia-lah itu ada membawa sa-laras pistol, dan PAS., Socialist Front dan P.P.P. apabila di-pereksa di-dapati pemuda Wakil dari Bachok dan Tanah Merah itu ada membawa kad P.P.P.—ahli menentang di-atas usaha Yang Teramat P.P.P. Jadi yang membela-nya pun ia- Mulia hendak mengadakan satu Per- lah sa-orang loyer dari Ipoh yang ber- tubohan Negara Islam ia-itu Common­ nama D. R. Seenivasagam. Saya per­ wealth Negara Islam ..... chaya D. R. Seenivasagam ini ia-lah Setia-Usaha P.P.P. Enche' Zulkiflee bin Muhammad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, on a point of Berchakap tentang Malayanisation, explanation. Saya tidak menentang, saya suka menerangkan di-sini ia-itu Kerajaan memang mengambil berat saya chuma menengok perkembangan- tentang soal ini. Pada pendapat saya nya. Dalam surat khabar hari ini pun lebeh baik ada 100 atau 1,000 pegawai ada mengatakan, saya tidak menentang. expatriate yang betul2 ta'at setia ka­ Mr. Speaker: la kata, ia tidak pada Persekutuan Tanah Melayu dari­ menentang. pada 100 atau 90 atau 10 pegawai tempatan yang berpaling kapada Enche' Othman bin Abdullah (Tanah Marxism atau Lenin. Jadi di-dalam Merah): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, untok soal pegawai2 ini saya suka menarek penjelasan. Wakil Tanah Merah tidak perhatian pehak yang berkenaan ia-itu ada menyebut Commonwealth Islam. kebanyakan pegawai2 tinggi yang ada Mr. Speaker: Wakil Tanah Merah pada hari ini tidak bekerja dengan tidak ada menyebut perkara itu. bagitu lichin dengan pegawai yang di- bawah tangan-nya. Kita dapati pegawai Enche' Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: rendah dalam Division III dan IV .... tetapi jika tidak menentang pun, 2 tidak bagitu hormat kapada pegawai Tuan Yang di-Pertua, patut-lah Ahli tinggi dalam Division 1. Dalam perkara Yang Berhormat itu menguchapkan ini saya berasa hairan sebab jikalau terima kaseh, kerana saya tahu PAS pegawai tinggi dalam Division 1 itu juga ada berchadang pada tahun sudah, orang puteh, kita dapati pegawai ren­ ia-itu Ketua Pemuda PAS yang telah dah dalam Division III dan IV selalu hadhir dalam persidangan di-Cairo, menghormati pada pegawai tinggi itu. tetapi ia telah keluar, kerana tidak Jadi sa-kira-nya perkara ini berjalan mendapat mandat daripada Persekutuan terus bagitu sahaja maka tidak-lah Tanah Melayu, beliau hadhir sa-bagai dapat jabatan yang berkenaan itu ber­ diri-nya sendiri. jalan dengan lichin. Berkenaan dengan keamanan, kita telah banyak mendengar pagi ini Enche' S. P. Seenivasagam: Mr. tentang Ma Cheng dan Wah Kie. Speaker, Sir, the Honourable Member Saya sa-bagai ahli Perikatan, yang who spoke last referred to a paragraph mana M.C.A. ada-lah satu badan yang in His Majesty's Gracious Speech bersama dengan U.M.N.O. dan M.I.C., where His Majesty has expressed his saya berasa dukachita di-atas tudohan2 satisfaction at the feelings of personal 235 21 APRIL 1961 236 friendliness which exist between both duties. We have got limited powers. A sides of this House. I would like to Member of Parliament has no power assure the Honourable Member who at all if he belongs to the Opposition. spoke last that on our part we have The Police are under the control of and still will continue to have feelings the Alliance Government, and for any of the greatest personal friendship with lawlessness, the ultimate responsi­ Members who sit on the other side. I bility lies on the Alliance Government do hope that, just because he feels and the Alliance Government alone. that we have attacked like tigers, he How can it be said of an elected Mem­ will not consider us as wild animals ber of the Opposition: "You were waiting to devour those who sit in elected for Menglembu; now, look at front of us. I would like to assure him what happened in Menglembu."? If that if in return the Alliance attacks the situation gets bad in Menglembu, us like tigers, it will not affect our it is due to the lack of efficiency, or feelings, our personal friendship, for perhaps some other reason, on the the other side. Each one of us, when part of those entrusted with the task we attack, does so because we of preserving law and order in conscientiously believe that, having Menglembu—not the Peoples' Progres­ been returned to this House, it is our sive Party. duty to attack if we consider that there is reason to attack, and I am sure the Now, I would like to refute a few Alliance Members expect us to attack untruths—to put it politely—which when necessary. were uttered by the Honourable Member for Kluang. One of the Now, let us consider how this untruths, which is more in the nature unpleasant situation in this House has of a joke, I hope, is that the Peoples' arisen today. I think the blame must Progressive Party belongs to the Seeni- be laid squarely on the Honourable vasagam Brothers and, therefore, there Member who moved the motion before are no gangsters, or at least he did not the House. It is a pity that in moving know whether there were gangsters or a motion of such importance, the not in the Peoples' Progressive Party. Honourable Member for Larut Selatan I do not blame him for it, and I am should have seized the opportunity to sure that the Honourable Member for do a bit of propaganda for his political Ipoh does not claim to have such party—and not satisfied with that, he powers—that the two of us alone took the liberty of making an attack could have influence in eight State on Opposition political parties. He constituencies and five Parliamentary singled out the Peoples' Progressive constituencies. The Peoples' Progres­ Party for this purpose and in so doing sive Party is a political party like any what did he say? I was not here but other party; it belongs to the members, this is what I have been told: in effect, and we are elected as office bearers what he said was, "Look at Menglembu, annually just as office bearers are where the Peoples' Progressive Party elected in any political party. There- is in control. What has happened? The ore, I do not think that with the people are living in fear.", and so on. intelligence which one presumes the However, I think, if the Honourable Honourable Member possesses he Member had paused to consider the could have meant seriously what he duties of an elected member of this did say. (Interruption). House, or even the duties of an Ipoh Town Councillor, he would not have The Honourable Member took grave been so rash or hasty to blame the exception to the allegations which Peoples' Progressive Party for the were made against the Mah Ching state of lawlessness that exists in organisation. However, all that he Menglembu, because when a person is could do was to praise himself and elected for a constituency he does not his organisation. He did not really take over the Police duties for that refute any of the allegations that were constituency. An Ipoh Town Councillor levelled squarely against the Mah is not entrusted with law enforcement Ching this morning. The Honourable 237 21 APRIL 1961 238 Member for Ipoh gave the name of section of the new village which has a man in Chendrong—and I think barbed wire around it. They were Members on the other side will appre­ pelted with broken bottles and they had ciate that whenever the Peoples' to creep under the barbed wire and Progressive Party makes an allegation got scratched all over the body. it is prepared to substantiate it. We Perhaps, the Honourable Member gave the name of a man who is the living in Kluang does not know what leader of a youth section in Chend­ is going on in Perak, but the Honou­ rong new village and that has not been rable Member for Ipoh is talking of denied. Further we do not say that in what he knew and not what he did this House only. I promise Honourable not know, as the Honourable Member Members that we will repeat that in for Kluang was doing. Ipoh tomorrow. He took grave exception to the The Honourable Member for Kluang allegation that the M.C.A. was orga­ says, "It is unfair to attack members nising a Legal Aid Fund to assist of the public who are not here." Again, gangsters in the Mah Ching. He said, I assure him that most of the state­ "No, it is not for that purpose. It is ments made in this House this morning to prosecute people in the P.P.P. have been made outside this House, and the Socialist Front who may attack and what has not been made outside the Mah Ching." But perhaps if he this House will be repeated outside reads the newspapers, he will realise this House within two or three days. that when the man in Chendrong was As for the Honourable Senator Mr. arrested and detained by the Alliance Yeoh Kian Teik, the Honourable Police—not the P.P.P. Police—a state­ Member for Kluang says that he is ment was immediately issued saying sure the Honourable Mr. Yeoh Kian that legal aid was going to be offered Teik will not allow the allegations the man and that in future aid would made this morning to be overlooked. be available to all members of the In fact, in regard to the Honourable Mah Ching who were arrested and Senator, some of these allegations have detained—and indeed a complaint was already been made in public and the made in the Chinese press that members rest of them will in due course be of Mah Ching were persecuted by the made in public. We clain no privilege Police. Those are the facts and they here, although by our Standing Rules are recorded in the papers for those and Orders we are entitled to who wish to remember. privileges—and indeed I think that in every Parliament the purpose of Now, referring to Jinjang, and I am granting privileges is to enable a Mem­ not speaking on behalf of the Socialist ber to say in the House something Front, but it has been mentioned, and which he cannot with impunity say I think that I should say something on outside: that is the purpose of grant­ it. The Honourable Member for ing the privileges to Members of the Kluang assumes that it was all the House—otherwise there is no meaning. fault of the Socialist Front, but I must However, we do not take advantage of give due credit to the Honourable the that. What we say in this House, if Prime Minister, because when he challenged, we will repeat outside spoke in Jinjang he did not presume this House. to know whose fault it was. He said, "I do not know whose fault it is, but The Honourable Member for Kluang if it happens again it must be declared asks, "Why is it always that only the a black area." Perhaps, the Honou­ M.C.A. get hurt in clashes?" Well, rable Member for Kluang has done one week ago there was a Local Mah Ching a disservice by not Council election at Chenderiang where informing the Honourable the Prime the P.P.P. and the M.C.A. were the Minister where the fault lay before the contestants—and what happened at matter was raised in this House. Chenderiang? At Chenderiang the Indeed, I do not think that there is P.P.P. workers were ambushed in a any justification for the Honourable 239 21 APRIL 1961 240

Member for Kluang to be shocked at masaalah2 antara bangsa." Ini satu the revelation made in this House daripada pindaan yang saya fikir tidak- this morning because, if I remember lah patut di-buat pada usul yang correctly, a few days ago at their own pertama untok memberi satu uchapan meeting they decided to advise their tahniah kapada Duli Yang Maha Mulia youths not to wear yankee pants. How atas uchapan titah baginda itu. did that necessity arise? If they were Sikap Kerajaan kita terhadap segala all decent honourable men, why was bangsa dalam dunia ini yang mana it necessary at a meeting openly to say kita ada-lah bersikap bebas dan 'adil. "we have advised our men not to wear Dalam keterangan yang kita dengar yankee pants", ada-lah asas-nya maka pindaan yang di-buat itu pada fikiran saya ia-lah Finally, he made a somewhat di-tujukan kapada dua Negeri ia-itu serious statement. He said that $16,000 atas kedudokan Persekutuan Tanah had been collected and he warned Melayu dengan Kerajaan bebas Algeria, us—he warned the P.P.P.—"in future, dan lagi satu yang saya dengar wakil if you try to be funny with the Mah dari Tanah Merah mengatakan atas Ching, you are going to be convicted sikap Kerajaan kita dengan Kerajaan or you are going to be prosecuted." Siam. Kita bersimpati dengan pembe- Now let me assure the Honourable rontakan Algeria sa-bagaimana kita Member that neither $16,000 nor $16 chontohkan ia-itu kita telah memberi million is going to secure any convic­ layanan yang baik terhadap wakil yang tion in a court of law, because in this datang ka-Persekutuan Tanah Melayu country convictions are not secured or sa-bagaimana sambutan2 yang besar, measured by the amount of money dan uchapan2 daripada wakil itu kapada which you have in your Legal Aid kita semua dan juga derma yang di- Fund. It is the truth and the truth berikan oleh ra'ayat jelata bahkan oleh only that counts in a court of law. I Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah Melayu. Ada-kah tidak ini yang menunjokkan hope the day will never come, and I 2 hope the Honourable Member is not yang kita bersama dengan Kerajaan anticipating the day when, with money, Bebas Algeria itu? he could secure convictions against Members of the Opposition. Yang kedua berkenaan dengan orang2 Melayu di-Selatan Siam yang Enche' Mohamed Yusof bin Mahmud telah di-sebutkan oleh wakil dari Tanah Merah. Saya perchaya ada-lah segala (Temerloh): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya 2 bangun pada kali ini ia-lah untok berita yang di-dengar oleh kita di- menentang . . . Tanah Melayu ini ia-lah melalu'i surat khabar dan juga melalui daripada 2 Mr. Speaker: Saya chuma hendak peraih yang datang dari Selatan Siam mengingatkan—Yang Berhormat tadi yang berasal dari Tanah Melayu. Kita sudah berchakap atas usul yang per- belum tahu apa-kah kedudokan yang tama. Jadi jangan di-ulangkan balek sa-benar-nya telah terjadi dalam negeri kapada perkara itu. Chakap atas Siam itu atau di-kenal dengan negeri pindaan itu sahaja, sebab memberi Thai. Yang pertama hal ini ia-lah hal peluang kapada orang yang belum ber­ negeri Thai sendiri. Kita ta' boleh chakap lagi. champor. Saya telah melawat ka-negeri itu. Saya tahu bagaimana Kerajaan Enche9 Mohamed Yusof bin Mah­ Siam melayan orang2 di-situ. Mereka mud: Saya tidak hendak berchakap di-benarkan memileki tanah, mereka atas apa yang saya sudah chakapkan di-benarkan berugama bahkan Kera­ tadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, tetapi saya jaan Siam menguntokkan tiap2 kaum menentang atas chadangan ia-itu satu bagi membuat surau dan membuat pindaan yang di-bawa oleh wakil dari masjid. Jadi yang kita dengar bidasan2 Bachok. Dalam pindaan itu ia menegas- yang di-katakan oleh wakil tadi ter­ kan kata-nya: "tidak di-sebutkan di- hadap orang2 Melayu maka tentu-lah dalam-nya dengan tegas 'azam Kerajaan ada sebab2 di-sebalek-nya. Tetapi saya Kebawah Duli akan memelihara dasar perchaya perkara itu tidak benar yang ke'adilan di-dalam sikap-nya di-dalam Kerajaan itu menindas seluroh orang2 241 21 APRIL 1961 242 Melayu yang berasal Melayu di-Selatan perasaan atau keinginan supaya Kera­ Siam itu. Saya telah pergi ka-sana dan jaan negeri ini mengambil perhatian saya juga telah berpeluang berchakap dan mengadakan langkah atas masaalah dengan orang2 Melayu di-sana dan penindasan orang2 Melayu di-Selatan saya mendapat berita bahawa perkara Siam itu bukan sa-mata2 di-timbulkan keganasan yang telah terjadi di-atas oleh Ahli Persatuan Islam sa-Tanah perbuatan perasaan fanatic itu dan Melayu yang bersifat parti pembang- dengan fanatic atau ta'suf perchubaan kang dalam Dewan ini atau kerana yang melulu maka dengan sebab itu- sebab2 politik parti ini, tetapi chadangan lah perbuatan yang tidak di-kehendaki ini telah di-timbulkan juga daripada yang menghalang atan mengancham beberapa bahagian UMNO dalam negeri keamanan negeri itu yang menentang ini sa-bagaimana satu berita yang ter- Kerajaan negeri itu, maka Kerajaan siar baharu2 ini satu chadangan yang Siam .... telah di-luluskan oleh UMNO bahagian Kuala Trengganu yang meminta ibu Mr. Speaker: Itu sudah lebeh. Saya Pejabat UMNO supaya mengambil benarkan juga tadi, ini sudah lebeh langkah sa-kurang2-nya menyiasat atau daripada patut dan tidak ada kena- apa langkah yang lain yang wajib atas mengena dalam perkara ini. masaalah kekejaman yang berlaku ka- atas orang2 Melayu di-selatan Siam itu. Enche' Mohamed Yusof bin Mah- mud: Jadi saya menegaskan bahawa Kami tahu usul ini akan di-tolak, berita itu ada-lah bohong. Kedua, soal tetapi kami merasa sangat-lah menasa­ pindaan ini. Ada-lah pindaan yang di- bah kami memohon kapada Perdana katakan kepentingan negeri ini dalam Menteri khas-nya atau kapada Kera­ masaalah antara-bangsa berkenaan jaan negeri ini 'am-nya supaya tidak- dengan hadiah kita $11 juta kapada lah kira-nya memberatkan pada masa Kerajaan Vietnam. Bagi kita pendudok yang akan datang menjalankan sa- negeri yang bebas yang berjiran, yang satu langkah walau pun satu langkah berbaik dengan segala negeri yang di- yang paling kechil memerentahkan sekeliling kita maka satu kewajipan kapada wakil Duta kita yang ada di- kita ia-lah untok memberi bantuan Siam itu bagi menyiasat dan membuat kapada mereka yang meminta bantuan laporan yang lengkap di-atas berita untok mengamankan negeri itu, bukan yang di-hebahkan pada masa yang telah untok memberi bantuan kapada negeri lalu. itu bagi mencherubohi negeri lain maka Tuan Yang di-Pertua, beruchap rasa saya tidak-lah patut usul ini di- kapada titah uchapan Duli Yang Maha masokkan untok di-sampaikan kapada Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Yang di- Duli Yang Maha Mulia itu. Pertuan Agong maka saya suka hendak menyentoh satu perkara yang tersebut Tuan Haji Hasan Adli bin Haji dalam titah Seri Paduka Baginda itu Arshad (Kuala Trengganu Utara): Tuan ia-itu berkenaan dengan kemudahan Yang di-Pertua, saya bangun di-sini atas pelajaran menengah di-negeri ini. bagi menyatakan sokongan saya di- Menurut titah Seri Paduka Baginda atas pindaan yang di-kemukakan oleh itu bahawa kemudahan akan di-tambah Ahli Yang Berhormat wakil dari untok memperoleh pelajaran dengan Bachok sa-bagaimana yang di-tegaskan menggunakan bahasa kebangsaan sa- oleh wakil itu pada pagi tadi bahawa bagai bahasa pengantar baik dalam satu daripada perkara yang mendorong- peringkat rendah mahu pun peringkat kan pindaan ini di-kemukakan ia-lah sekolah menengah. Ini ada-lah satu supaya Kerajaan Persekutuan Tanah keazaman yang kami junjong tinggi, Melayu tidak berat menjalankan apa2 tetapi apa yang kami harapkan ia-lah langkah yang menasabah yang sa-wajar- kesunggohan-nya dalam mengisikan nya kerana menyiasat kekejaman yang dan melaksanakan azam atau kenya- di-katakan telah di-hebahkan berlaku- taan yang telah di-lapadzkan oleh ba­ nya ka-atas orang2 Melayu di-Siam itu. ginda itu. Oleh kerana, Tuan Yang di- Tidak-lah maksud saya hendak meman- Pertua, tidak sempurna-nya dan tidak jangkan keterangan itu, tetapi apa lengkap-nya kemudahan2 bagi melaku- yang patut saya ulangkan di-sini ia-lah kan atau bagi memajukan pelajaran 243 21 APRIL 1961 244 menengah dalam bahasa kebangsaan negeri ini yang tidak dapat peluang ini. Ketidak sempurnaan itu telah melanjutkan pelajaran-nya dalam se­ menimbulkan beberapa perkara yang kolah menengah. Sunggoh pun dalam tidak puas hati dan ketidak puasha- Titah Seri Paduka Baginda telah di- tian ini-lah yang telah mendorongkan sebutkan berkali2 ia-itu Sekolah Lan- baharu2 ini di-mana telah berlaku satu jutan akan di-adakan kerana menam- mogok di-Sekolah Menengah Dato' pong kekurangan kelas pelajaran bagi Abdul Razak, Tanjong Malim, Perak. penuntut yang telah tamat sekolah Terlanjor saya menyebutkan hal ini rendah, tetapi satu perkara yang patut suka-lah saya memberi pandangan di-insafi oleh kita bersama Kemente­ bahawa dalam soal pemogokan rian Pelajaran khusus-nya, ia-itu ibu- penuntut2 di-Sekolah Menengah Dato' bapa orang Melayu khas-nya tidak Abdul Razak itu Kementerian Pelaja­ puas hati dan mereka merasa tidak- ran telah melakukan satu kesalahan lah chukup dengan Sekolah Lanjutan. dengan menutup sekolah itu serta 2 Apa yang mereka mahu ia-lah kelas memerentahkan penuntut itu pulang pelajaran menengah bagi mereka yang ka-kampong, sebab saya katakan salah telah lulus sekolah rendah. dan silap, oleh kerana ini ada-lah satu kerugian—kerugian yang akan di- Saya yakin, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, terima dan menimpa murid2 itu dalam sa-kira-nya masaalah menampong pelajaran mereka. hasrat ibu-bapa Melayu dalam pela­ jaran menengah ini bagi anak mereka Sa-patut-nya langkah menutup se­ tidak di-isi dan di-ambil berat oleh kolah itu tidak-lah di-jalankan apa Kerajaan negeri ini atau oleh Ke­ lagi menghantar penuntut balek ka- menterian Pelajaran negeri ini, maka kampong-nya, tetapi apa yang patut masa-nya akan tiba, kita akan melihat di-jalankan oleh Kementerian Pelajaran ibu-bapa Melayu—kerana negeri ini ia-lah sa-kurang2-nya memberi chuti negeri demokrasi sa-bagaimana yang buat sementara kapada Guru Besar di-katakan oleh Menteri—akan menga- atau Pengetua sekolah itu, yang terang2 dakan tunjok perasaan (picket), bukan tidak di-ingini oleh penuntut itu sahaja di-hadapan Pejabat Pelajaran dengan sebab2 yang menasabah; itu-lah Daerah bahkan akan di-hadapan Ke­ langkah yang patut di-buat, bukan-lah menterian Pelajaran, hatta di-rumah dengan menghantar penuntut2 itu balek Menteri Pelajaran atau Menteri Peno- ka-kampong-nya. Saya perchaya bahawa long Pelajaran—saya tidak menyuroh satu penyiasatan akan di-jalankan di- supaya ibu-bapa buat demikian, tetapi sekolah itu, dan hendak-nya penyiasa­ masa-nya akan tiba yang perkara ini tan itu ada-lah satu penyiasatan yang akan berlaku. 'adil dan rapi yang tidak akan meng- 2 Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini-lah satu aniaya) nasib penuntut Melayu itu daripada perkara yang besar yang saya dalam lapangan pelajaran mereka. rasa patut di-ambil berat oleh Ke­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam Titah rajaan negeri ini. Seri Paduka Baginda ini dalam masa- Enche' Tan Phock Kin (Tanjong): alah pelajaran telah di-sebutkan bahawa Mr. Speaker, Sir, when the Honour­ dua perkara yang besar dalam hal able Member for Bachok brought the Pelajaran akan di-ambil berat. Pertama. amendment on the motion I expected menaikkan had umor berhenti sekolah discussion to take place on the subject dan yang kedua memberi pelajaran 2 of foreign affairs. However, speaker perchuma kapada kanak negeri ini after speaker spoke and they spoke pada masa yang akan datang. Saya 2 on something other than foreign affairs. rasa kedua perkara ini tidak-lah chukup, sa-kurang2-nya ada perkara Mr. Speaker: I must warn you that yang besar yang patut di-ambil berat they are quite in order. Although we oleh Kerajaan pada tahun ini, ia-itu are debating the amendment, Members memberi pelajaran menengah yang of this House are at liberty to speak chukup, mengadakan kelas yang on the original motion. Otherwise I chukup bagi beribu2 anak2 Melayu would have stopped them. You need yang lulus dalam pelajaran rendah di- not comment on that. 245 21 APRIL 1961 246 Enche' Tan Phock Kin: I am merely spite of the misfire, last year as well explaining my confusion; and having as this year, the Alliance next year realised that we can speak on the may find that it still, in spite of all original motion I gather courage to these, has no alternative but to call stand up to speak on the original upon him again to deliver the Address. motion because you, as Speaker of this House, Sir, have ruled that we can do Mr. Speaker: A very long preamble! so. When the Honourable Member for {Laughter). Larut Selatan moved the humble Address to His Majesty the Yang di- Enche' Tan Phock Kin: Mr. Speaker, Pertuan Agong I noticed that he was Sir, I shall now come to the Speech trying to adopt the procedure of the of His Majesty the Yang di-Pertuan British Parliament whereby he tried to Agong. In view of the fact that a be as non-controversial as possible, and great deal of time has been spent he referred to his constituency. But during this debate on the question of unfortunately his plans misfired. The thugs and secret societies, perhaps, it Honourable Member for Ipoh took is appropriate for me, first of all, to great exception to his reference to refer to the Ministry of Internal Secu­ Menglembu and as a result of that we rity. I do this for two good reasons: had a very interesting discussion on firstly because the subject has been thugs and secret societies. discussed at great length during this debate and secondly because the The Honourable Member for Larut Honourable the Minister of Internal Selatan also took a great deal of Security is present in the House to­ trouble by his eloquent speech to night and listening attentively to what create the impression that he is ex­ I am saying. So, I shall seize this tremely modest, because in his speech opportunity of commencing my com­ he has told this House that he is not ments on the Ministry of Internal going to flatter himself by saying that Security. he is the most outstanding of the Alliance Back-Benchers. In the course Sir, in the Gracious Speech, great of the debate, we had the opportunity emphasis has been laid on the question of listening to eminent Alliance Back- of peace and security in this country Benchers, such as the Honourable and the determination of the Govern­ Member for Kluang Utara, and also ment to maintain appropriate steps the eminent Member for Sepang, and and measures for the purpose, and I feel that the Honourable Member one paragraph went on further to say, for Larut Selatan is overdoing it by and I quote: saying that he is not going to flatter "In order to commemorate the successful himself. Even if he were to say that termination of the Emergency and to record he is going to flatter himself by saying this country's appreciation of the sacrifice that he is the most eminent of the and service of the security forces and of those who bore their part in the campaign, Alliance Back-Benchers as far as the Government intends to erect a worthy speech-making is concerned, I for one monument depicting the victory of our will not say that he is boasting, forces over the enemy and the triumph of democracy over communism. This monument because to be the most outstanding will stand, together with a fitting memorial need not necessarily mean that he is to those who gave their lives in this good. So, the very fact that the glorious cause, in surroundings of dignity Honourable Member for Larut Selatan and beauty in the Lake Gardens in Kuala Lumpur. It will be completed by Merdeka has been chosen two years in succes­ Day, 1962, at a cost of over one million sion to make this Address of Thanks dollars. It is the intention of my Govern­ to His Majesty is, perhaps, a testimony ment, which is providing approximately half this sum, that the people of this country of the fact that as far as the Alliance should be given an opportunity of showing is concerned he is considered to be their tangible appreciation of its historic pretty good and that the Alliance is significance by making their contribution towards this permanent record of the having great difficulty to find some­ glorious services of our Security Forces, the body else to take his place, so much Commonwealth Forces and the civilian so that in spite of the blunders, in population." 247 21 APRIL 1961 248 I must say here, Sir, that whilst that is to be made in America, a me­ agreeing to the erection of a memorial morial with American ideas, a memo­ to commemorate the termination of rial which will be erected in the spirit the Emergency and victory of demo­ of the Americans. cracy over communism, I feel that such a large sum of money should be Mr. Speaker, Sir, I feel that the spent on some useful purpose. Surely question of erecting a memorial in a one can commemorate the memory of country like Malaya, which has just those who died for a glorious cause in achieved independence, should be to a more appropriate and more useful see to it that it is one for national manner. One can build, perhaps, a pride, and national craftsmen should be school for the blind or a school for the encouraged at all costs. Apart from the deaf with this tremendous sum of fact that I oppose the erection of a money rather than to build a monument memorial which is of no utility, if the that will serve no useful purpose to the Honourable the Prime Minister feels community. By building some useful strongly enough that such a memorial school or something of that sort, we is necessary, then I feel that the people can still commemorate the memory of of this country should be called upon those who died for the cause of demo­ to make it. The people of this country cracy. It does not mean that we should be called upon to design it and, cannot do so—to build a memorial— I would suggest, that the memorial but I for one cannot see the logic of should be made from materials pro­ the expenditure of such a sum of duced in this country. It is only by so money for a monument. And, above doing that we can demonstrate to the all, who is going to build this monu­ people of the world that we are proud ment; are they going to be craftsmen of of what our people and our country Malaya who are skilled in Arts; or is can produce. it going to be a Malayan product made by Malayans? Unfortunately, I cannot During the colonial regime, when­ see anywhere in the speech to tell us ever a memorial was erected, it is something about this monument that is understandable that it was copied going to cost us over $1 million. It piece-meal from colonial countries. merely says that the "monument will We have statues in Kuala Lumpur stand, together with a fitting memorial and in various parts of Malaya which to those who gave their lives, in sur­ are not unlike statues in London, roundings of dignity and beauty." But it Birmingham or in Edinburgh. But we says nothing about where the memorial have now attained independence and is going to come from and who is going we must have our own ideas as to make the memorial, but I believe, to what is appropriate as a memorial Sir, that the decision to have this in our own country. If one goes to memorial came very abruptly. If I am Japan, we will see something charac­ not wrong, Sir, from reports, I believe teristically Japanese in the form of a that the idea of having a memorial memorial; you have the Yasukuni struck the Prime Minister when he Shrine and various things which are visited the United States. When the typically Japanese; you go to India, Honourable the Prime Minister visited you will see various memorials which the United States, he was shown are typically Indian—and of nowhere around various places of interest and else; and people from countries all among the things shown to him was over the world flock to Japan and the famous Iwo Jima memorial. Sir, India to have a look at the beautiful according to the reports, the Prime memorials which are indigenous. Why Minister was so impressed with the should it be that in this country, after Memorial that he placed an order for attaining independence, no attempt a similar memorial to be made by the has been made whatsoever to en­ same people for Malaya. So, you see, courage our local people, local crafts­ Sir. that we will be spending this very men, to pursue this art? We can only large sum of money on a memorial do so by encouraging them and in 249 21 APRIL 1961 250

order to encourage them we must very drastic restrictions on the freedom make use of of assembly, freedom of publication and freedom of speech, because I Mr. Speaker: You have been believe that he is also the Minister of repeating too much. the Interior and that is under his jurisdiction. Enche' Tan Phock Kin: I am sorry, Sir, I was unaware that I have been Sir, in my capacity as the General repeating. Secretary of the Labour Party, I had the misfortune of receiving letters Mr. Speaker: I am only reminding from his Secretary reminding me that you. my Party and Divisions of my Party should not publish newsletters, Enche' Tan Phock Kin: Sir, in the because according to his definition, he light of what I have said, if it is not considers newsletters to be newspapers, already too late, perhaps, something and newspapers according to the could be done about this matter. If a Printing Press Ordinance requires a memorial we must have, let us have permit, and according to the definition something that will have some utility of "newspaper" in the Printing Press to the people of this country. Ordinance, everything can be construed as a newspaper. If my party holds a It is interesting to hear of the meeting and make certain decisions, Emergency coming to an end; it is and if I should decide to cyclostyle very interesting to hear that we are such decisions in the form of a news­ building memorials; but it is my letter for circularisation to my mem­ earnest hope that if democracy has bers, according to the Ministry it is a already triumphed over communism, newspaper and I must apply for per­ let us hope that the Honourable the mission before I can publish it. I put Minister of Internal Security will see it to this House, Sir, that this is a to it that we in this country can enjoy definite restriction on the liberty of a all the freedoms of democracy. Let us person to publish and, as a result of hope that he can see his way to amend this, it is almost impossible for poli­ the Internal Security Ordinance. tical parties to put forward its views During the course of this debate, we to convince others. have heard of speeches with regard to thuggery and gangsterism. I would appeal to the Honourable Minister On one occasion, we had a Con­ that if he must use arbitrary powers, ference in Johore Bahru, and, because such powers be confined to thugs and publishing costs in Johore Bahru are secret society gangsters, irrespective of more expensive than in Singapore, we the fact that they are members of decided to publish our report and to Mah Ching or the M.C.A get it printed in Singapore

9 An HONOURABLE MEMBER: Or the Dato Dr. Ismail: Shame! Socialist Front! Enche' Tan Phock Kin: But when Enche' Tan Phock Kin: .... and the parcel of annual reports was sent that his fondness of using arbitrary back from Singapore, it was stopped powers should not be directed towards by the Ministry, and we were told that members of political organisations, we could not collect our annual reports particularly members of opposition without getting permission from the political organisations. Let us hope Ministry of the Interior. So, as a result that now that we are going to have a of that we have to submit copies for memorial it will be one to remind us scrutiny, and after a great deal of that we are living in a democracy, that difficulty we managed to get the report he will see to it that as far as speech, into the Federation of Malaya. This association and assembly is concerned I submit, Sir, is unnecessary hindrance he can see his way towards lifting the on publication. It seems to me that as 251 21 APP L 1961 252 far as the Ministry is concerned, they Enche' Tan Phock Kin: No, Sir. make no differentiation whatsoever. Mr. Speaker: The meeting is However adjourned to 10 o'clock tomorrow Mr. Speaker: Time is up. Are you morning. going to finish? Adjourned at 11.00 p.m.