Marina Oswald Porter's Statements of a Contradictory Nature
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MARINA OSWALD PORTER'S STATEMENTS OF A CONTRADICTORY NATURE » This survey of contradictory statements made by Marina • '\ Oswald Porter was undertaken for the purpose of clarifying which issues, relevant to the Committee's investigation, ./gjj her statements bear upon. Every effort has been made to -.,-...,,. insure that these statements have been quoted accurately and in proper context. At this time, no attempt has been made to explore whether Mrs. Porter's contradictory statements were the product of deception or simple confusion. • -.. -i '. av* .:. •.•'•' • . '! - • - ,•.*—•. mm. AA.y~ MARINA OSWALD'S KOMSOMOL MEMBERSHIP Warren Commission: Vol. 1, Pg. 89-90, 2/5/64 ,*y 1 ...A •*.-%* .. .ir. ,• MR. RANKIN: Do you know why you were discharged? •<•'. •; MRS. OSWALD: I paid my membership dues regularly, and , „, ,!Al at first they didn't know who I was or what I was, but after '^f~ they found out that I had married an American and_was getting /—J * £eady_to go to the United States, I was discharged""!:rom tbie ' Comsomon ,'mey said tnat I had anti-Soviet views, even though I had no anti-Soviet views of any kind. FBI: V12/3/6J& CE 1401 She was considered a member of the Komsomol for one year when -she worked in the Drug Section of the Third Clinical Hospital but was thrown out when she failed to pick up her o o membership card. w• • „ ,, , , Marina and Lee: Pg. 14 0 M.**'****.*, A week or so later, the girls at the pharmacy went off ''3 to the meeting on Marina's case. She waited behind at work. She expected the news they brought: "You were expelled today." She took it with a touch of bravado. "Fine.' Now I'll have S money for the movies." L- ...It was the sort of thing (expulsion) that often happened to a girl before she marries a foreigner, not after. TJz Marina had been spared before her marriage because everyone, • even the Komsomol, assumed Alik (LHO) was a Soviet citizen..-. • f-A%. <w-rocLC ** >'yt *H ° Q<* ^-c- **.,• "r'^<Zc ^ mM ' ^ Ar MARINA OSWALD'S RELATIONSHIP WITH RUTH PAINE Warren Commission: Vol. i, Pq. 19/ 2/3/64 y U 3nd MrS Paine od f MRS *SLD. "Z* ° " ^° "endS? as I could eA MRS. OSWALDRnf- T. 9 i»yesA , -so-sor . I .trie7 d *"*to* "helPp neherr aass mucmuchh .^ 0 X aiso consid^^d^e^^LiSiJJ^It^^- ""_ ..*'M:,. ,%.-«r,-j Marina and Lee: Pq. 391 • •I 1 (Ti 1 a n ked liked her ft) and lov;d-EflHT arher hoLe! ^ ^ «-P«* • n (XI 1 n Marina and Lee: Pq. 560 o had no Uultt.(Marina) hSld againSt Ruth the fa=t that she ^ A " MARINA OSWALD'S RETURN TO RUSSIA Warren Commission: Vol. l, pg. 10,,2/3/64^ ~ ^-£ MR. RANKIN: I had in mind if there was any violence or any hitting of you. Did that occur at Neely Street? MRS. OSWALD: No. That was on Elsbeth Street ' MR^ ^wafn DS rU reca11 What bought that ^bout? ,-*v§ T4- . ? 0SW^LD: Not quite. I am trying to remember. J&M. *-i, e _It^eems to me thaj^Lt was at that time that Lee began to .% « that S^SHV52?^^ retUrn tP RuSSia' 1 «"£? want ANKI : UXa yOU have ahnn*tftat- an <-h^"-^d that is 2why we had quarrels discussion. s between you about this idea of returning to Russia? I . T . *A MRS. OSWALD: Yes. Lee wanted me to go to Russia UZ thl™ fchat that-Lee wanted me to go to Russia, and I h« ^5 ?*. ? he wanted me to go then that meant that he didn t love me, and that in that case what was the idea i of coming to the United States in the first place. Lee would ES SUV* W°^ld bS bett" for "» if I vent to Russia? T n fl ?l ^now why I did no* know what he had in mind. He said -he-loved me but that it would be better for me if I went CD to Russia, and what he had in mind I don't know o rt Warren Commission: Vol. l, pq. 49, 2/4/64 H- o MR. RANKIN: At the time of Exhibit 14, then, vou p were not anxious to return to Russia? MRS. OSWALD: I never wanted to return but Lee insisted and there is nothing else I could do. But sometimes when I Q didn't want me Tf'J f#1J ver* lonely " *ince my husband Im) didn t want me, I felt perhaps this would be the best way. Ul Warren Commission: Vol. 1, Pq. 13 etsLmstC MR RANKIN: Mrs. Oswald, as I recall you were tellina ;f us about these developments at Neeiy street when you found L"^" that your husband was suggesting that you go back to Russia alone and you discussed that matter, and you thought it had something to do with the idea he had, which I understood you have discovered as you looked back or thought back later but didn't know at the time fully. is that right? MRS. OSWALD: That is correct. r~ ^!E0^r.^^.;. S1AIHOHV "IVNOI1VM 3H1 IV C"10nOOUd3: Return to Russia - 2 FBI;V 12/4/63>j CE 1401 She said that she had thought of going back to Russia but was afraid that if she went back to Russia, that somehow . «$ Oswald would get her child. She said Oswald loved the child. Oswald told her that he would not let >yy FBI: 1/16/64; CE 1820 Marina was questioned regarding her personal rela tionships with Lee Harvey Oswald. She stated that she can |» recall that after a series of arguments, which had culminated ::V| jj in her writing a letter to the Soviet Embassy in the United jj States, requesting permission to return with her daughter ro June to the Soviet Union. Oswald had begged her not toieave hifamilm aloney coul; dan dretur shen hatdo Russithereaftea togetherr agree.d that the whole I |o FBI: 1/17/64; CE 1821 o o In this connection, Marina Oswald said that although. , £ • she had in the spring of 1963 petitioned the Soviet repre- £ sentative in the United States to return to Russia, that by '. the fall of 1963 she had no desire to return to Russia. She - said she had originally petitioned the Soviet government for «i/i a return to Russia mainly because Oswald had found it difficult and almost impossible to support his family in the United States. She wanted to help Oswald and she felt that she could do this by returning to Russia with their baby daughter. Secret Service: 12/5/63 Concerning Lee Oswald's being in Mexico City and his* visits to the Cuban and Russian Embassies, Marina Oswald stated that she had no prior knowledge of him going to Mexico City. But that due to their family difficulties she fA> on several occasions expressed her desire to return to Russia on which he agreed and that he also expressed a desire to return to Russia to save their marriage and on account of their children. She also stated that in order to return to Russia she wrote to the Russian Embassy in Washing ton, D. C. OSWALDS' MARITAL CONFLICT Warren Commission: Vol. 5, Pg. 416, 6/11/64 ' '* Lee for KlTlZir^ylT1 °" ^ °S «—«*"*: reprimand J^ He didn"f f.03"^: J d°n,t know- He did«'t support this J$ A He didn t favor this conduct of ray husband's. But I don *t' » *X he^L^d^^df ilanything t0 h* abOUt At' - tola S that V.^ 6 <- ^o, REPRESENTATIVE FORD: Mr. De Mohrenschildt didn'f «,, N(1 - !*> " yo^1^ t0 LeS °SWald in ^ **"«"» aSoutlis fbuse'towLds* ' S .."S^ MRS- OSWALD: No; not in my presence. f^-i A y J Marina and Lee: Pg. 281 Everyone knew that Lee stood in awe of the »<!i,» **.* 1 weight-and muscles" — Bouhe's words — of rlASt A I\ >* The meeting of husband and wife was accordingly^et'for Sunlav"' morning, November 11, at the De MohrenschilS Ipartoent * Don't worry' Bouhe reassured Marina as he drove her to ihe rendezvous. "George will be a good shield for you Hi big and strong. I'm not. He'll protect you like a wall " !!U^l,fSCOrKed "ari"! inside" inferred a^oment with De Monrenschiidt, and quickly left. ^o u Whe5 Lee arrived, he was nervous, pale, and obviousv • "«. ^ Mo^re<V?^e h3Ving SUCh a scene i" *">"t o? the Y ChlltS Ge rge 'J- ^ « ;J ° Mediately started to lecture him is we^ke^than vJ_?° H ^ **''' h&r°iC *° beat a -oman^ho is weajcer tnan you? I've beaten women myself. I can see it- *t once or twice, for something serious, but not all the tfme - • ^ Lee was discomfited and did not answer. 7\ 4.u .Jeanne, who adored her husband, joined him in all his H. oarenf^SmS"vnd 1™°*** him in ev«ything. Now she was feeling * parental. "You have to grow up," she told Lee and Marina " >Z IS? ^-n0t l1Vt like that' This is n°t a country that p^mits V- such things to happen, if you love each other, behave If "!" - ^finTK -1Ve WltK 6aCh °ther Peacefully, without ali this awful behavior, maybe you should separate, and see. Maybe you really don't love each other after all.»/fn.7 she was speaking Russian, although, Marina says, she~hld lived so manv -i % ^ ' ?<? lives and knew so many languages that she now used aU o? S A "M.