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DISCLAIMER Uno cial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an uno cial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East)

Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration

Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security

Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development

Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security

Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development

Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development

Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security

Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education

Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

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RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 18TH MARCH, 2021

CONTENTS PAGE (S) Electoral (Amendment) Bill, 2020 (No. 21 of 2020) Second Reading (Resumed Debate)...... 1-4

QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 5-14 QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE...... 15-17

LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION TIME...... 18-24

APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY Organisation 2500 – Ministry of Defence, Justice and Security (Resumed Debate)...... 25-50

Organisation 1500 - Ministry of International Affairs and Cooperation...... 51-56

Thursday 18th March, 2021 ELECTORAL (AMENDMENT) BILL, 2020 (NO. 21 OF 2020) Second Reading (Resumed Debate)

Thursday 18th March, 2021 Motlotlegi Peter Simako Mmusi, yo le ene a sa tlholeng a le mo botshelong, o ne a fenngwa ke ditlhopho mo THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. Gaborone South. Fa di sena go mo fenya a rwala dibeke (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) a leba kwa gae, kwa Thamaga. Ga gona yo o kileng a mo tsosetsa modumo gore o a re tlholela. Motlotlegi P R A Y E R S Matlhabaphiri, yo le ene a sa tlholeng a le teng mo botshelong, o ne a fenngwa ke ditlhopho mo Gaborone. * * * * A tsamaya a ya Molepolole a ya go iteka lesego, ra se ka MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! ra mo tsosetsa modumo. Honourable Members, good morning. Let us start this Mo batshiding le gone ba teng ba ba lekileng dikgaolo morning with the Second Reading of the Electoral Bill. tse di farologanyeng. Motlotlegi Kabo Morwaeng, o ELECTORAL (AMENDMENT) BILL, simolotse go iteka mo boPalamenteng nna ke santse ke 2020 (NO. 21 OF 2020) le ngwana wa sekole, kwa Mogoditshane. A fenngwa a rwala dibeke a leba kwa Thamaga a ya go leka teng, Second Reading a fenngwa. A rwala dibeke a leba kwa Molepolole a feta a fenngwa, a nna a iteka go fitlhelela a bo a (Resumed Debate) fenya. Jaanong, a e se ka ya nna kgang gompieno e MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members, e tsosediwang modumo gotwe re tloga re bua gore o the debate on the Bill is resuming. When the House fetotse dikgaolo. Fa e le sengwe, ke ithutile kwa go bone adjourned last Thursday, Honourable Saleshando was ba phathi ya Domkrag. on the floor replying to the debates, and he is left with E nngwe e ke neng ke batla go feta ka yone e e neng e 11 minutes 54 seconds. boeletswa ke wa Gaborone Central ke ya gore nnyaa, kana ke gore you have inherited the party. I did not MR SALESHANDO (MAUN WEST): Ke a go inherit the party, ke tlhophilwe gabedi. Ke tlhophilwe leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo. Tota ke solofela gore ka congress ya BCP kwa Maun ka 2010, ka boa ka gompieno re tlaa tswala kgang e ya go leka go fetola tlhophiwa gape kwa Kanye ka 2015. Fa le batla go Molaomotheo, gore ditalama di balelwe gaufi le kwa bona batho ba ba jang boswa jwa dikgaolo ba teng matlhophelong, tsa bo Palamente go bo go isiwa maduo kwa Tlokweng, kwa go nang le Mopalamente yo o fela kwa constituency headquarters. boneng kgaolo e e neng e le ya ga rraagwe. Ba teng kwa Beke e e fetileng fa re fetsa, o tlaa gakologelwa gore kgaolong e e emetsweng ke Rre Kagiso Mmusi, ba nnile go ne go tsogile tlhatlharuane ka dikgang dingwe tse teng kwa Moshupa kwa go neng go eme Rre Setlhomo di neng di runya fa ke tsibogela se se builweng ke Masisi, a tla a jewa boswa ke ngwana. Mapalamente a mangwe. Ga ke batle go tsena mo go A re tseneng mo dikgannyeng jaanong, ke tsaya gore tsone ka boleele, ka gore ke tsere nako e e ntsi ke leka go tseo ba utlwile dikarabo. A re boele kwa go reng tota bua le Mapalamente gore a re beyeng matlho a rona mo boammaaruri jwa kgang e bo kae, ka gore ba Domkrag setlhogong. Tse dingwe ga se tse di ka tlogelwang fela, ba e baya gore ga ba dumalane le gore ditalama di ka Mothusa Tautona mo tumelong ya gagwe o ne a leka balelwa fa go tlhophetsweng teng. Ke supile beke e e go bua gore mathata ke gore ke le mosutisi ke fetotse fetileng… constituencies, go mo Hansard; ke dule mo Gaborone MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND Central ka ya kwa Maun West e kete ke molato. Ke itse COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Procedure. gore le Mopalamente wa Gaborone Central Rre Healy, Mr Speaker, ke a leboga. I do think it is a matter of o rata go bua kgang ya teng. procedure le fa e le gore gongwe… BoPalamente ga bo jewe boswa Mr Speaker, it is wrong, ga se gone. Ga gona Mma ke ba gakolole ditso tsa phathi ya bone, ke bo boswa jo bo jewang mo boPalamenteng. Honourable ke tlogela kgang. Moeteledipele wa bone o ne a nna Leader of the Opposition, o itse gore gore motho a nne Tautona, Rre Masire, o ne a fenngwa ke ditlhopho kwa Mopalamente go diragala eng. Ke a leboga. Kanye. A tswa kwa Kanye a ya Ngwaketse-Kgalagadi, a ya go nna Mopalamente teng ba se ka ba bona go na MR SPEAKER: Honourable Segokgo, o dumalana le mathata, ga ba ise ba ko ba mo tsosetse modumo. le ene. Ke sone se a se buang gore, go se ka gatwe o

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ja boswa jwa sepe, ke sepolotiki. Fa e ne e le gore ke go tla fa go re tlhapaola,” ga ke a tlhapaola ope Mr boammaaruri, go ne go ka twe le wena o ja boswa, le a Speaker, Standing Orders di ka bo di go pateleditse dumalana. gore o nkgalemele. BDP gompieno e tlhapaotswe ke boammaaruri. Boammaaruri bo tlhoketse BDP botho, MR SALESHANDO: Ke a go leboga. Ke tsaya gore ka gore se se teng ke gore go a bonala gore ba tswa tota mafoko ao o a lebagantse le Mopalamente wa kgakala ba dumalana le SADC le AU, gore a go fetolwe Gaborone Central le Mothusa Tautona, ka ke bone ba molao go balelwe kwa matlhophelong. mafoko ao. Sekgoa se na le lefoko le le reng, nako tse dingwe a A re boeleng kwa boammaaruring, gore bo fa kae. A person is a hypocrite, ka Setswana… Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) e bolelela ruri fa e re e ka se ka ya dumalana le kgang e, ga go a akanngwa MR SPEAKER: Honourable Molao wants clarification. sentle? Ke supile beke e e fetileng gore, ka 2004 bogogi jwa BDP signed Southern African Development MR SALESHANDO: Unfortunately, I am unable to Community (SADC) Principles and Guidelines yield. Ka Setswana, a hypocrite go tewa moitimokanyi, governing democratic elections. Ba dumalana le gore nkgata ke thaname, yo e reng a le kwa SADC a bo a baya go balelwe kwa matlhophelong. Ba boa ba e saena monwana gore ee, ke a dumalana le gore go fetolwe ka gore e ne ya šhafadiwa ka 2015 gore ba ntse ba a tsamaiso go balelwe kwa matlhophelong. dumalana. Ba ya go dumalana le SADC-Parliamentary Batswana gompieno ba itse gore tlhopho e re tlaabong Forum (SADC-PF) Norms and Standards, ba dumalana re tsena mo go yone ba ba tlaabong ba re nnyaa mme le reports tse di ntshitsweng ke African Union (AU) ba le mo phathing ya BDP, ke bone tota ba o kareng o gore mo Botswana go tshwanetse go lekwa go bala Baebele kwa go Mataio 7 verse 15 wa tlhagisiwa tokafadiwa. Ba boa gape ba amogela report e e neng ka bone, gore beware of false prophets, tshabang koo, e tswa kwa Independent Electoral Commission (IEC), baitimokanyi ke bao. False prophets who come to ba dirile audit bone ba IEC ba itshekatsheka, ba biditse you in sheep clothing, ba tla ba apere matlalo a dinku bomankge ba ditlhopho ba ba bidiwang gotwe Institute kwa SADC ba saena kwa bo African Union, gore re for Democracy and Electoral Assistance. Ba ntsha batla tsamaiso e e letlelelang gore go balelwe kwa tshutiso ya gore, a go balelwe fa go tlhophetsweng teng. matlhophelong. Fa ba tswa fa bone ba, ba ba neng ba Fa godimo ga moo, ka 2016, BDP e ne e tlisitse Electoral apere matlalo a dinku, ba a fetoga jaanong they become (Amendment) Act e e neng e batla go tlisa Electronic wolves e nna bo phokoje ba ba kgonang go gana kgang Voting Machine (EVM). Le tlaa gakologelwa gore ka e e diragatsang sone se ba tswang go se beela monwana. 2017, go ne ga boa go na le e nngwe gape Bill e e neng So this vote today Mr Speaker, it is a vote of integrity, ya ntshiwa le fa e ne ya se ka ya felela e dirisitswe. go mo Mapalamenteng gore jaanong ba itshupe gore a E e neng e batla gore jaanong go nne le printouts tsa ke banna le basadi ba ba ka lebaganang le boammaaruri, EVM, e bile go balelwe kwa matlhophelong. Results tsa ba tswa mo goreng ba tsisitse boPalamente. Ga re a kopa boPalamente under EVM, BDP e ne e dumela gore di ditalama kwa dikgaolong re re nnyaa ntlhopheng ke nne tshwanetse go ntshiwa kwa boKhanselareng go bo go Mopalamente wa lona ke le Rre Leuwe gore ke bo ke tsewa maduo a isiwa kwa headquarters ya constituency. tsaya maikarabelo ke ya go a neela Domkrag, ke yone e Ba ne ba dumalane le mogopolo o. tlaabong e bua gore a ke ee kana nnyaa. Ntlhopheng kwa Kgalagadi South ke le Rre Brooks mme fa ke tsena kwa Se ke batlang go se supa gompieno ke gore, se re se ke tlaabo ke sa tsene gope mo dikgannyeng ke tlaabo ke bonang ke go tlhoka boammaaruri. BDP Government fa reeditse go Domkrag e ntaela e reng. I am appealing to e bua golo gongwe, fa e bona ba ba neng ba bua le bone Members of Parliament gore boammaaruri re bo beile ba seyo, ba bua se sele. Fa o ba lebisa mabaka jaaka ke fa pele ga lona, boammaaruri ga bo dumalane le mabaka ne ke ba a lebisa beke e e fetileng, Mokwaledi Mogolo otlhe a le a ntshitseng. Go setse go ntshitswe kgakololo wa BDP mafoko a a ntshang mo Hansard a fetola ke ba molao mo Palamenteng mme fa godimo ga moo boammaaruri jo ke bo bayang pele, a re, “Saleshando o Mr Speaker, o a itse gore fa o dira Molao-kakanyetso o batla go re tlhokela botho,” ke mafoko a a mo Hansard. le Mopalamente yo o ikemetseng, Private Member’s Bill Nnyaa, Mokwaledi Mogolo, boammaaruri gompieno e a tsamaya e ya kwa Attorney General’s Chambers, ba a re dumalane, bo tlhoketse party ya Domkrag botho. molaomogolo bone ba e lebelele, ba e leng bagakolodi Mothusa Tautona ene o ne a re, “Saleshando o tlisitse ba Palamente ba semolao gone fa, ba bo ba dira jalo

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mo boemong jwa ga Ramelaomogolo wa lefatshe le Botswana. Jaanong ba ba neng ba batla go ipelaetsa jaaka bo Honourable Mthimkhulu, tswang mo go batleng diipato ka gore Ramelaomogolo wa lefatshe la Botswana, ofisi ya gagwe e lebeletse Molao-kakanyetso o, e dumalane gore ga o gotlhagotlhane gope le Molaomotheo. Mo e ne e le go batla diipato, letsatsi le penne, le batla go sia. A re lebaganeng le boammaaruri. Go tlaabo go belaetsa Mr Speaker, gore a mme Mapalamente ba ka tsaya tshwetso gore nnyaa re ya go gana ditalama di balelwa gaufi, re batla bosigo jwa ditlhopho go lalwe go tabogilwe ka mabokoso mo dikoloing, gore boikaelelo ke eng, a mme golo mo go ka dirwa ka mowa o montle. Ke sone foo ba ba nang le dipelaelo le fa go sena bosupi, o tshwanetse wa belaela gore tjikwenyana tjiapo, ke eng go ka twe a di box di lale mo koloing go tabogilwe ka tsone masigo go nale gore go balwe, go raya gore golo gongwe boferefere bo teng jo bo ka tswang bo batlwa go dirwa. It does not make sense, ga gona sepe se se patikang lefatshe la Botswana gore le ka se ka la dira jaaka mafatshe a mangwe a a tlhabologileng le a a sa tlhabologang a dirang ka teng, ditalama di balelwa gone fa go tlhophelwang teng. Jaanong ke kopa go sutisa Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, gore Molao-kakanyetso o, o balwe la bobedi o fetisiwe. Fa e le gore go nale yo o ngongoregang gore sengwe se a tlhaela, fa o tswa fa, kana jaanong o tlaabo o tsena mo seemong sa gore le bone ba ka tsisa ditshutiso tsa bone gore ba batla go o baakanya fa kae. E seng go o tsholola ka mabaka a ba a buileng, a ba a buileng mabaka a lolea, a bopame e bile go nale bosupi jo bontsi jo bo sa tsweng kwa diphathing tsa kganetso, jo bo tswang kwa bo SADC, African Union le kwa makgotleng a mangwe a a ikemetseng ka nosi gore seemo se se tshwanetse se fetolwe. Therefore Mr Speaker, ke sutisa gore Electoral (Amendment) Bill, (No. 21 of 2020) be read a second time. I thank you.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Saleshando. Honourable Members, please prepare yourselves for voting, we are going to call your name and those who agree you say aye, those who do not agree you say nay. Please get ready for voting. Make sure that you are ready to vote.

CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT His Excellency Dr Mokgweetsi Eric Keabetswe Masisi Honourable Autlwetse √ Honourable Balopi Honourable Boko √ Honourable Brooks √ Honourable Billy √ Honourable Dr Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Dow √ Honourable Gare √ Honourable Dr Gobotswang √ Honourable Greeff √ Honourable Hikuama Honourable Kablay Honourable Kapinga √ Honourable Kekgonegile Honourable Keorapetse √ Honourable Kereng √ Honourable Kgafela Honourable Khama Honourable Dr Kwape √ Honourable Lesedi √ Honourable Lelatisitswe √

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Honourable Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Letsholathebe √ Honourable Letsholo Honourable Leuwe √ Honourable Lucas √ Honourable Majaga Honourable Makwinja √ Honourable Manake √

Honourable Mangwegape-Healy Honourable Mathoothe √ Honourable Dr Matsheka √ Honourable Mmolotsi √ Honourable Mmusi √ Honourable Moabi Honourable Moagi √ Honourable Moatlhodi √ Honourable Modukanele √ Honourable Mokgethi Honourable Molale √ Honourable Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi √ Honourable Monnakgotla √ Honourable Morwaeng √ Honourable Moswaane Honourable Motaosane Honourable Motsamai √ Honourable Mthimkhulu √ Honourable Mzwinila Honourable Nkawana √ Honourable Pule √ Honourable Rakgare √ Honourable Ramogapi √ Honourable Reatile √ Honourable Regoeng √ Honourable Saleshando √ Honourable Segokgo √ Honourable Serame √ Honourable Shamukuni √ Honourable Thiite √ Honourable Tshabang √ Honourable Tshere √ His Honour Tsogwane √

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…Silence…

MR SPEAKER: The results of your voting; the Ayes-15, the Noes-34, Absent-15.

So, the Noes have it.

Question put and negated. QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER

CHILDREN’S ACT OF 2009

MR T. B. LUCAS (BOBONONG): asked the Minister of Local Government and Rural Development to state:

(i) whether the Children’s Act of 2009 is fully implemented;

(ii) whether all structures envisaged by the Act are in place;

(iii) the budget allocated to the National Children Council for each of the years it has been in existence and whether it is commensurate with the mandate of the council;

(iv) the number of functional Village Children Welfare Committees across the country as well as the number of non-functional or non-existent committees and the challenges, if any, for the absence of such;

(v) the average annual budget allocated to a Village Child Welfare Committee and if it is enough to carry out its mandate; and

(vi) if the Minister will consider employing more social workers in districts to ensure the full implementation of the Children’s Act of 2009.

ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (MR MODUKANELE): Thank you Mr Speaker and thank you Rre Lucas for the question. Mr Speaker, I should say in advance that this question is very long and therefore the answer is equally long.

Mr Speaker, the Children’s Act of 2009 is in force and serves as the principal legislation for promotion and protection of the rights of the child and general well-being of children.

Implementation of the Act is undertaken through ten priority areas as below:

Priority Area Status of Implementation

1. Establishment of structures at national, National Children’s Council is in place and fully district and community levels operational.

Children’s Consultative Forum is also in place, current members’ term of office lapses in December 2021.

Village Child Protection Committees are established and fully functional in most areas, while in some areas they are not functional. There are a few areas where these committees are not yet established.

Probation Committee has not been established as probation services are not yet formalised in the country.

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2. Dissemination of the Act to members of the The Act has been disseminated widely through public workshops, seminars, Kgotla meetings, full council meetings, children’s fora other public fora, radio, television (tv) and other media platforms. It is also available for purchase at the Government Print shop. 3. Capacity building and institutional Training of law enforcement officials, social workers and strengthening prosecutors on how to receive, monitor, investigate and prosecute complaints, in a child sensitive manner which respects the privacy of children has been done and is a continuous exercise.

Establishment of child protection units in the Police Service is to commence in April 2021.

Establishment of child friendly courts will be informed by the findings from the study on “Child friendly justice in Botswana: A situational analysis and recommendations for reform” A child protection protocol that spells out the roles and responsibilities of the various service providers has been developed.

Training programmes on relevant international child Child Protection with resource implications and protection standards for some professionals have been interventions developed, for example; best interest determination training for social workers.

Human resources, specialised in areas for effective interventions for children, for example; appointment and training of Probation Officers, Children’s Courts officials across all levels has not yet been done full scale but in- service training is provided. The Children’s Consultative Forum has been used at the district and national levels to promote child participation. Children from Botswana participate in various local and regional fora to influence programming and policy Child Participation development.

Identification and engagement of priority vulnerable groups of children, for example; child-headed households, orphans, children with a disability, children living in extreme poverty, victims of sexual abuse is to be up scaled or updated.

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This is work in progress as matters affecting children cut across ministries. So far, the Adoption of Children’s Act, the Marriage Act and the Criminal Procedure and Harmonisation of other Acts with the Children’s Act Evidence Act are under review while the Penal Code has 2009 been reviewed.

Other laws that have been developed since the Children’s Act was passed and are in consonant with it are the Anti- Human Trafficking Act which is in force and the Sexual Offenders Bill. Engaging stakeholders to be aware of child protection in the context of the rights based approach so they can be able to prevent and respond to all forms of violence, abuse and exploitation of children is done on a continuous Advocacy and social mobilisation for the protection of basis. children’s rights and well-being Strengthening and capacitating established structures to effectively play their advocacy roles is also done continually. Information packs for Village Child Protection Committees, booklet for Children’s Consultative Forum have been developed. Advocacy for the development of children’s budgets Resource mobilisation for implementation of the basing on key mandates across ministries to be done. In Children’s Act 2009 the meantime, child interventions are subsumed within the principal ministerial budgets. Targets for progressive improvement linked to the Act have been set, for example; rollout of child friendly police stations.

Engagement with institutions of higher learning to Research and data collection on children’s issues facilitate curriculum reform that would include children’s rights has been done with the University of Botswana (UB) Department of Social Work.

Research on violence against children, social service workforce mapping, situation analysis of orphans and vulnerable children have been done as an effort to create data that will inform policy and programming. Establishment of Child Abuse Register (Section 55) has not been done, but its objects will be included under the Establishment of some of the core operational Sexual Offenders Bill. requirements that the Act mandates (for example, Sections 55, 92, 95(2) and 97) Facilitation of legal representation for children has been done through Legal Aid, on a case by case basis.

Ensuring compliance by child welfare institutions through licensing and monitoring is ongoing.

(iii) Mr Speaker, on the basis of what I have highlighted above, the Children’s Act is being implemented. The structures that are envisaged by the Act and are in place include:

• National Children’s Council

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• Children’s Consultative Forum at District level the functions under their mandate are however facilitated by the Local Authorities as and when it • Village Child Protection Committees may be required.

• Probation Committee (ii) Mr Speaker, while I appreciate the need to employ All the structures are in place except for the Probation additional social workers, not only for facilitation Committee Mr Speaker. of implementation of the Children’s Act, there are challenges of inadequate budget to accommodate (iv) Mr Speaker, the council has not had a dedicated additional manpower. budget until 2020/2021 financial year when a budget amounting to P6, 175,690.00 was My ministry will continue to rationalise the limited allocated to the council. The amount was vacancies to meet the demand for social work related adequate to facilitate the initial requirements for services. Mr Speaker, I thank you. implementation of the coordination, engagement MR LUCAS: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. as well as advocacy mandates of the council. For Ke a leboga Tona. Tona, kana molao o wa 2009 wa the financial year 2021/2022, a budget of P3, bana, e ne e le wa bobedi, wa ntlha o tsile ka 1981. Mo 000,000.00 has been allocated. molaong one wa 1981, go ne go buiwa ka Probation (v) The following districts have functional Village Officers le Probation Committee. 40 years later, Child Protection Committees: 2021, go ntse ga go ise go nne le Probation Officers le Probation Committee ga e ise e nne teng, after a good • Chobe (10) 40 years. Tota wa re go pala eng Tona gore Probation Officers le Probation Committee di nne teng morago ga • Kgatleng (26) lebaka le le kanakana? A ko o tlhalose fela gore go pala • Hukuntsi (2) eng golo fa? 40 years!

• North West (9) Sa bobedi, Schedule (iii) ya Children’s Act, e supa gore National Children’s Council e tshwanetse go dira • Gaborone (27) report e e fetang ka Minister, e bo e felela e tsene mo Palamenteng, go lebega seo se ise se diragale in the • Jwaneng (1) last 10 years. Golo moo go dirwa ke eng e bile go pala • Gantsi (17) eng gore go nne le report ya mofuta o o ntseng jalo, e e tshwanetseng go tla go goroga mo Palamenteng? • Kweneng (54) Sa bofelo, bana ba tlhoka foster homes le foster parents. • Tlokweng (1) Mo dikgaolong di le dintsi, go balelwa kwa Bobirwa, ga gona trained foster parents, ga gona magae ape that • Southern (74) are designated gotwe ke foster homes. Gone moo rra, • Central (118) go pala eng? A mme fa go tsaya dingwaga di le 10 go sa diragadiwe tseo, a go supa tlhoafalo mo ministry wa The absence of VCPC’s in other districts is attributed gago rraetsho? Ke a leboga. to non-availability of incentives for members while in other areas inadequate support from other structures MR MODUKANELE: I thank you Mr Speaker. Ke within the village has been a demotivating factor. leboge Rre Lucas for the question.

(i) VCPC’s are voluntary institutions, which were Honourable Member, I think you will be the first person created to facilitate community participation in to agree with me gore boammaaruri ke gore Rome was the protection of children within their villages not built in a day. by their own parents, guardians, relatives and Jaanong, if we were to give some percentage to what neighbours. No budget is therefore, allocated to has already been done, regarding the implementation such committees. of this Act, I think Mr Speaker, notwithstanding the Their training and implementation of some of time e Honourable Member a e buileng, if we were to

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give a percentage of some sort, I think he will agree MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND with me gore we are certainly over 90 per cent fa re COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Thank ntsha Probation Committee. Kana mathata a Probation you Mr Speaker. Committee a ke dumelang gore Honourable Member o a itse gore, this takes not just an ordinary person, it Mr Speaker, my ministry is aware of the status of takes people who are trained to do that work. Our plan Gweta-Dzoroga road. The damaged section of the road is to retool some of the people who are already on the is part of a tender for reconstruction of Nata-Maun ground like gongwe Social Workers ba ba teng, so that road. The tender for this road was evaluated and was they could be able to undertake tiro e e leng gore it is recommended for retendering since none of the seven envisaged ya Probation Officers. bidders who submitted bids met the requirements for the tender. Ke supile gore sedibeng go iwa ka tsela e bile mosepele mongwe le mongwe ga o nke o fela within a short time The Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board given gore fa gongwe go nna le makgwere mo tseleng. (PPADB) Mr Speaker, in their sitting on Thursday th Re a leka Mr Speaker, ke tsaya gore re tsweletse and 18 February 2020 approved the request by Roads quite a good job has been done in the implementation Department to retender this project. My ministry is of the Act. currently working on invitation for retender and is expected to submit for vetting by the end of March. MR LUCAS: Supplementary. Mr Speaker, ke re Tona Mr Speaker, maintenance of the Gweta-Dzoroga road must talk to the 40 years e ba ntseng ba sa diragatse has not been adequately done as planned due to shortage Probation Committee or ba appoint Probation Officers. of graders, particularly that we have an old grader though 40 years, le fa a re Rome was not built in a day, I think one grader was sufficient. My ministry will grade the mo go supa boitseme. badly damaged section every 2 months as a temporary MR MODUKANELE: Mr Speaker, with your intervention, whilst the retendering is ongoing. The last permission I would want to talk to the current Act. Ga grading on this section of the road was done in February. ke dumele gore go siame gore gongwe re ka cast brush I thank you Mr Speaker. fela re bo re penta re bo re re nnyaa, go supa boitseme MR MAJAGA: Supplementary. Thank you Mr as it were. Fa go kile gongwe ga nna le se se ntseng jalo, Speaker. Thank you Honourable Minister, le fa ke utlwa a re dumalane Honourable Member gore gompieno we ke tshoga ke batla go swa ka dikonteraka tsotlhe ka bo are moving at a breakneck speed. A lot has been done seven go sena epe e e kgonneng go ka fiwa tiro, go dirwa when you consider what it takes gore se se dirilweng retender, legale Modimo o teng go tlaa siama. gompieno, se dirwe. Ke ntse ke balolola dilo tse dintsintsi, 10 of them, priority areas which have been Ke botse gore, Tona, you promised gore those bad sections especially in the Dzoroga area, time and again done. Honourable Member, ka o motho yo o tlwaetseng the grader will be helping at least to grade. Jaaka o to mark, let us mark, re fe tiro e 95 per cent to 99 per bua morena, ke tlaa re since November because that cent. Re se ka ra sutlha (cancel) sengwe le sengwe fela, grading ya February ga go ise go ko go dirwe sepe, ka gore Probation Committees ga di a dirwa, mme ke since November to date ga go ise go ko go dirwe fela a supa gore go na le mabaka a gore ke eng di saletse kwa proper and thorough grading, which like you are saying morago Mr Speaker. that would be happening each and every two months if dilo di ka bo di dirwa sentle, fa Directors le bomonnawe MR LUCAS: Ke go fa 25 per cent. ba ne ba le utlwa. O bona gore golo mo ke go bolelela MR MODUKANELE: Nnyaa mongwame. Palamente e boammaaruri, jaaka le a tle le bolelele Batswana gore nnyaa, le tlaa nna le thusiwa, the road GWETA-DZOROGA ROAD will be graded, mme go bo go sa diragale? Kgang e le e tsaya jang Minister; a le e tsaya tsia thata le lebeletse MR P. MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): asked the seemo sa Batswana bale ba o ba itseng mongwame? Minister of Transport and Communications if he is aware that ever since viewing the damaged portion of the MR SEGOKGO: Ke a leboga motlotlegi. Tota le nna Gweta-Dzoroga road, no maintenance or reconstruction ke ne ke tshwenyegile fa ke bona potso e e tsena. Fa has taken place as previously promised and agreed. gongwe kana fa …(Interruptions)… Mr Speaker, go na

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le modumo. Mongwe a ko a mute a se ka a tsena mo fa plans to put in place to ensure that such temporary re araba. Honourable Modukanele, please mute. Thank work is in terms of the law. you. Later Date. Mr Speaker, tota se ke se tlhomamiseditsweng ke gore it was graded ka February. Jaanong ka fa motlotlegi a PAJE-MABELEAPUDI BITUMEN ROAD buang ka teng, e sale e re November ga go ise go nne jalo. MR B. MATHOOTHE (SEROWE NORTH): asked Ke amogela gore fa e le gore we graded ka February the Minister of Transport and Communications if he is jaaka fa ke latisisa ke botsisisa re ne re sa dira sentle, aware that the resealing project of Paje-Mabeleapudi ka gore re ne re tshwanetse e ka bo e ne e re morago bitumen road only went as far as the entry point to ga dikgwedi tse pedi nako le nako re bo re setse re kile Mabeleapudi village; and if so, why was the resealing not ra grader. We should have maybe attended to it gabedi. carried out on the internal road leading to the Kgotla and Ke batla go go tlhomamisetsa gore rra, ke tlaa ba sala primary school, as this could have subsequently led to morago. Ke tlaa tlhomamisa boammaaruri jwa se ke se easy connection with the Mabeleapudi-Tshimoyapula- begetsweng, ka gore gone ke begetswe gore re ne ra e Serule road project. dira ka February. Se setona fela ke gore re leka gore re MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND e dire, gore e tsamaege re santse re wetsa dithulaganyo COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Ke a leboga tsotlhe tsa gore re baakanye tsela ya Nata-Maun. Ke a Mr Speaker. My ministry is aware that, the resealing and leboga motlotlegi, re tsaya dikgang tse tsia sir. road marking of Paje-Mabeleapudi bitumen road only GENDER AFFAIRS EMPOWERMENT went as far as the entry to Mabeleapudi village. At the PROGRAMME time when the resealing and road markings were done, the 2.2 kilometre (km) section of the road that passes MR J. L. THIITE (GHANZI NORTH): asked the through Mabeleapudi to Tshimoyapula was identified Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs as a section that required reconstruction. My ministry if she is aware that the Gender Affairs Empowerment had planned to undertake reconstruction as a variation Programme was not rolled out to applicants in 2020 of the ongoing Mabeleapudi/Tshimoyapula/Serule pending the review of the guidelines; if so: road project. Negotiations with the contractor were not fruitful as the cost proposed by the contractor could not (i) what is the exact status of this review exercise; and be accommodated within the project. (ii) when the Programme will be open for applicants. Mr Speaker, my ministry is aware of the need to maintain Later Date. this section and plans to undertake its maintenance through a variation order in one of the projects that will WORK PERMITS FOR NON-CITIZEN be undertaken within reasonable radius in the region ADVOCATES in the next financial financial year. In summary Mr Speaker, our plans are to try and address the section of DR U. DOW (SPECIALLY ELECTED): asked the the road in the 2021/22 financial year. I thank you Mr Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Speaker. Skills Development: WORK PERMITS FOR FOREIGNERS (i) whether, in view of the clear provision of the law that for a non-citizen to work in Botswana, they MR C. GREEFF (GABORONE BONNINGTON must hold a work permit, any of the advocates SOUTH): asked the Minister of Employment, Labour who routinely work on short term contracts of a Productivity and Skills Development: day or so in Botswana, do so legally; (i) why his Ministry is issuing work permits for jobs (ii) to state, if he holds the view that such work is that Batswana are qualified to do; permitted without a work permit, the basis for such a view; and (ii) to state the number of foreigners who were issued permits at the following companies: (iii) if he agrees that such work without work permit is illegal and what policy or structural reforms he (a) Kwena Concrete;

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(b) Steelcase; 2021, no case has been adjudicated due to COVID-19 pandemic. The commission had its last meetings on (c) Dynamic Road Services; the 17th, 18th and 19th February, 2020. I thank you Mr (d) EL&L Companies; Speaker.

(iii) the nature of jobs that they are employed to MR NKAWANA: Supplementary. Thank you Mr perform; and Speaker. Honourable Minister, o ntlhalosetse gore mo dikgetsing tse di setseng di rarabolotswe (adjudicated), (iv) how many Batswana graduate each year from go setse di le kae tse di santseng di le mo tafoleng di ise technical and training schools with relevant di dirwe? Le gore a Minister ga a bone gore mo sebakeng qualifications to successfully undertake these jobs. se se kana fa e le gore di teng, a ga go a disadvantage badirelapuso ba e leng gore dikgetsi tsa bone di Withdrawn. tshwanetse gompieno tsa bo di setse di le disposed of by PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION the Public Service Commission? Ke a leboga.

MR K. NKAWANA (SELEBI PHIKWE EAST): MR MTHIMKHULU: Thank you Mr Speaker. asked the Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance Honourable Nkawana, I do not have the number of cases and Public Administration to update this Honourable right now that are still pending because gakere potso House on: e ne e sa batle numbers tsa teng. Fela ke dumalana le wena gore, ka gore commission did not sit during (i) the status of the Public Service Commission; the year 2020/21, cases tsa badirelapuso fa e le gore (ii) its current membership; di teng which are not adjudicated for that period, tota go ba beile ka fa mosing. Ke selo se e leng gore ee, ke (iii) how many cases it has adjudicated in its current dumalana le wena gore ga se a siama, se tshwanetse term; and gore se lebelelwe, se tle se baakanngwe, cases tsa bone (iv) when the Commission had its last meeting. di reediwe fela ka nako e e sa fediseng pelo. I thank you Mr Speaker. ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC TOBACCO LEVY ADMINISTRATION (MR MTHIMKHULU): Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, according to the MR M. REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): Constitution, the Public Service Commission shall have asked the Minister of Health and Wellness: a maximum of five members, and a minimum of three (i) when the levy on tobacco was introduced and members, including the Chairperson. why;

Currently, two members of the Public Service (ii) how much money has been collected from Commission have been appointed but the commission inception to date; is not fully operational because the current membership does not form a quorum. Two members; a member and (iii) who the intended beneficiaries of the funds are; the Chairperson appointed on the 7th July, 2019 and and 1st September, 2020 respectively. Currently the Public (iv) what impact the levy has made on those the levy Service Commission has two members and the process was intended to benefit. of appointing other three members is ongoing. A draft Cab Memo for consideration of their appointment is ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND ready for processing. WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you Mr Speaker. We are still working on question number 9 Mr During this current term, the Public Service Commission Speaker, so re kopa later date. has adjudicated on cases as follows; financial year 2018/19, the commission adjudicated 64 cases; financial MR REATILE: For the second time Mr Speaker, ao! year 2019/20, a total of 58 cases were adjudicated while Please! Mr Speaker, the Honourable Member is not financial year 2020/21 which ends on the31st March serious.

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MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, gakere o a e removal of vegetation and desludging of the ponds at utlwa ngongorego? regular intervals for maintenance purposes. The ponds however currently have vegetation growths (reeds) MR LELATISITSWE: Rra? which may have damaged the lining of the ponds. The MR SPEAKER: Gakere o utlwa ngongorego? damages from reeds growth may warrant some remedial works to carry out re-lining of the walls. The removal of MR LELATISITSWE: Ee rra, ke e utlwile, kana vegetation and desludging activities are planned are to dipotso tsa ga honourable di di ntsi ka kwano, so they be carried out in April and May 2021, while the remedial confused potso ya 330 le ya 335. Ba mphile answer ya works for re-lining of the ponds will be done once potso e e tshwanetseng go tla kamoso. funding is available. The re-lining could not be provided for in the financial year 2021/22, funds permitting since MR SPEAKER: So you have the wrong answer? the estimated budget was P30 million. MR LELATISITSWE: Ee rra. Water Utilities Corporation has a programme aimed at HONOURABLE MEMBER: Wena ga o kgone go ensuring that effluent discharged from the wastewater itlholela? Ba dirile, ba dirile, wena? treatment ponds is of required quality when discharged into the environment. The effluent is therefore tested MR LELATISITSWE: Ba a dira ba tlisa kwano, nna on quarterly basis, and latest results in November 2020 I vet. for this Treatment Plan show that the effluent is of acceptable quality as per BOS 93 of 2012 - Wastewater: MR REATILE: Re mo bothateng Mr Speaker. Physical, Microbiological and Chemical Requirement - Later Date. Specification.

SEWAGE SYSTEM IN MOCHUDI EAST The villages of Oodi, Matebele and Modipane do not have a piped sewerage system. Waste is managed through MR M. M. PULE (MOCHUDI EAST): asked the individually owned septic tanks and pit latrines. These Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation are emptied through vacuum tankers upon request and Services if he is aware that the sewage system in payment by the customer and the waste is consequently Mochudi East is in an appalling state especially in the disposed at Mochudi Waste Treatment Ponds. Boseja ward, Modipane, Oodi and Matebeleng areas; if so, to state what he is doing about this situation. I thank you Mr Speaker.

MINISTER OF LAND MANAGEMENT, MR SPEAKER: Honourable Pule! WATER AND SANITATION SERVICES (MR MR PULE: Thank you Mr Speaker, I am happy with MZWINILA): Mr Speaker, the Kgatleng District has the answer. two forms of waste management systems, that is an integrated sewerage system and individual yard-based MR SPEAKER: Let us see if Honourable Mmolotsi is systems comprising of septic tanks and pit latrines. The there. integrated sewerage system is in Mochudi and Pilane villages only with pipework covering the scope of about MR LUCAS: Mr Speaker, Honourable Mmolotsi o rile 150 kilometres of sewer pipelines. The system has ten ke e mo tseele, o kgaogetswe ke motlakase fa a leng lifting pump stations, which discharges into two sets of teng. treatment ponds. The ponds are designed to treat 4500 TEXTBOOK-STUDENT RATIO cubic metres of wastewater per day. The inflows into the Treatment Plant from sewer network and vacuum MR W. B. MMOLOTSI (FRANCISTOWN SOUTH): tankers are estimated at 600 cubic metres per day and asked the Minister of Basic Education to apprise this 200 cubic metres per day respectively. Honourable House on the current textbook student ratio from primary to secondary. The ponds are located at Boseja ward and Kgamanyane ward in Mochudi which subsequently discharge effluent ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION into the Notwane River. As a way of keeping the ponds (MS MAKWINJA): Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr in a good state, Water Utilities Corporation carries out Speaker, at primary level, we have 329,472 learners

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and a total of 1,375,433 textbooks which gives a ratio gore re ya kwa maranyaneng e bile re fetola curriculum of textbooks to students as 4.2 books per learner at all kana tsamaiso ya thuto gore go nne le mo bana ba ka levels. My ministry has prescribed seven books for each kgonang… textbooks tse tsa tsenngwa mo maranyaneng. primary school learner. So, this represents 60 per cent Go bo go raya gore fa di tsene mo maranyaneng, bana availability. ba ka kgona go di tsenelela mo maranyaneng. So, go na le maiteko jaaka re sekaseka curriculum. O tlaa fitlhela At junior secondary school Mr Speaker, we have go na le buka ya Standard 1, 2 and 3, mme dilo tse di 134,174 learners and a total of 676,283 textbooks which ka kgona go sobokwa ya nna buka e le nngwefela e gives a ratio of 5.0 text books per learner instead of the ngwana a e tsholang dingwaga tse tharo tseo. Go bo go required 17 textbooks. My ministry has prescribed up to raya gore go fokotsa dipalopalo tse o di bonang fa tse 17 textbooks for each junior secondary learner. So, this dintsintsi. Re a leka gore kwa bofelelong ka 2022/2023 represents 29 per cent availability. e-learning le yone e bo e setse e le foo. Re simolotse At senior secondary level we have 46,160 learners implementation ya ETSSP, seemo se tlaa kokobela. Ke and a total of 322,209 textbooks which gives a ratio a leboga. 6.9 textbooks per learner instead of the required 17. TOBACCO LEVY My ministry has prescribed up to 17 textbooks for each senior secondary learner depending on their MR M. REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): subject choices, and so this represents only 40 per cent asked the Minister of Health and Wellness: availability. (i) when the levy on tobacco was introduced and Mr Speaker, these figures do not include class sets of why; books that are used to augment those issued to learners. (ii) how much money has been collected from I thank you Mr Speaker. inception to date; MR LUCAS: Supplementary. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. (iii) who the intended beneficiaries of the funds are; Tona, se o se supang ke gore kwa primary schools go na and le 60 per cent availability, junior secondary schools, 29 per cent availability and senior 30 per cent availability. (iv) what impact the levy has made on those the levy A ke maikaelelo a lephata kgotsa ministry wa gago to was intended to benefit. achieve 100 per cent availably on core textbooks? Fa e ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND le gore ke maikaelelo a lona, le ikaelela gore le bo le a WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you Mr fitlheletse leng ka gore seemo se se ka ama maduo mo Speaker. go tseneletseng? (i) Mr Speaker, tobacco levy was introduced 2014 for Sa bofelo ke gore a mme availability ya bo 29 le 30 per the following purposes; cent ya textbooks e ka tswa e amile maduo mo dikoleng tsa junior secondary le senior secondary? Ke a leboga • to establish treatment, rehabilitation and Mr Speaker. counselling clinics for tobacco users;

MS MAKWINJA: Ke a leboga motlotlegi. Ke gopola • to promote projects and activities designed to gore potso e ya dibuka mo dikoleng e sale re simolola combat the use of tobacco products and harmful Palamente e e ntse e botswa, mme re leka ka bojotlhe effects thereof; go araba ka boammaaruri jo bo sa jweleng pheko. Ke keletso e bile ke lenaneo la rona gore ngwana mongwe • to provide training for healthcare workers; le mongwe a nne le buka e a e tlhokang, mme e bile ga • to promote advocacy for tobacco control re ka ke ra ganetsa gore fa dibuka di seyong teng go ka programmes; ama maduo a bana, go tlhamaletse. • to support Non-Governmental and Community Jaanong potso ya gago ya gore re tlile go dira eng, go Based Organisations in tobacco control; na le dilo tse dintsi tse re ikaelelang go di dira. Selo santlha o a itse gore re fetola thuto jaaka Education and • to support research on issues related to tobacco Training Sector Strategic Plan (ETSSP) e bua. Go raya use;

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• to empower law enforcement agencies in their Go a supafala gore go tswa kwa morago Fund Order e implementation of legislation relevant to the ntse e sa salwe morago Mr Speaker, mme se ke se re se control of tobacco and tobacco products; and lebeletseng ka kwano, go bona gore go ne go diragala eng gore diemo tse di diragale go tsena mo seemong sa • to support country’s participation at various gompieno. national and international fora on control of tobacco and tobacco products. MR REATILE: Last supplementary Mr Speaker. Thank you Mr Speaker. Tona, a mme o ka solofetsa Palamente (iii) The amount of money collected since inception gore jaanong ka go raya gore le ntse le le in violation of of the levy is P411, 397, 620, 32. The amount the Fund Order, a ditlhotlhomiso le ya go di dira e bo le however is as of March 2021. tlisa report mo Palamenteng? Re tle re itse gore the said (iv) Intended beneficiaries of the funds are the civil violation ya Fund Order, dikgato tse o di tsereng ke dife organisations and citizen based companies with kana tse le yang go di tsaya ke dife? Ditlhotlhomiso di projects or any activity intended to combat senotse eng? tobacco and tobacco products use and minimise Sabofelo Honourable Minister, o ka re bolelela gore the harmful effects thereof. Healthcare workers Fund Order e na le bokae gompieno, jaaka re bua jaana? and law enforcement agencies are among those geared to benefit from the levy through capacity MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Speaker. building. The balance e tlaa tla mo potsong ya ga Honourable Reatile e e latelang ya 335. Re setse se bereka mo go (v) The levy has not benefited those who were intended yone. Re setse re bone gore go na le se se diragetseng, to benefit as there were Government structure re se lebeletse. Mme morago re ka neela ba Komiti ya related challenges associated with the Tobacco Botsogo ya Palamente, pego e e feletseng gore re bone Levy Implementation Committee. My ministry bothata fa kae, e bile re bo baakantse ka tsela e e ntseng has over the last few months been working on this jang. Ke tsaya gore tsotlhe tsa ga Goromente, ga gona and they have recently been resolved. The levy sephiri, e tlaare fa re feditse ditlhotlhomiso, re di beye fa has mainly been used for running the anti-tobacco pele ga Palamente Mr Speaker. awareness campaigns. I thank you Mr Speaker and I thank you Honourable Member. MR REATILE: Komiti ya Botsogo ga e a tlhokomela fund Mr Speaker, madi a tlhokometswe ke Public MR REATILE: Supplementary. Thank you Mr Speaker. Accounts Committee (PAC). Mr Speaker, a Tona ka fa a bonang Fund Order ya levy e e ntse ka teng, a o ntse o e diragatsa they way he MR LELATISITSWE: PAC ke komiti ya Palamente submitted it mo Palamenteng ya bo ya tla go amogelwa Mr Speaker. (approve) gore o ye go tswelela o e diragatsa? A o MR SALESHANDO: Supplementary. Thank you bona o e diragaditse to the core e le Fund Order e e go Mr Speaker. Ke kopa gore Tona a tlhamalale mo go letlelelang gore o bo o na le komiti e e tlhokometseng tlhaloseng gore a e sale fund e simolodisiwa (set), levy fund ya go nna jaana? O sa tswa go supa gore mo a rurifatse gore ga gona madi ape a a ntshitsweng e neng e go direlwa ga e ise go diragatse. Jaanong o ka kgatlhanong le melawana e e tsamaisang fund yone e. solofetsa Palamente e gore o tlaa simolola leng gore the Fa e le gore go na le madi mangwe a ene gone jaana, beneficiaries tse o reng fund e a di itse di simolole to a itseng gore a ntshitswe kgatlhanong le melawana, benefit from this levy fund rraetsho? dikgato tse ba di tsereng ke dife?

MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Jaaka MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr ke supile mo ntlheng ya bone ya potso, re supile gore Speaker. Ke buile gore go a supafala gore the levy has madi ao a ntse a sa dirisiwe ka fa Fund Order e buang not benefited those who were intended to benefit, as ka teng. Re le ministry, mo dikgwedinyaneng tse di there were Government structure related challenges fa morago, dikopo tse dingwe tse di neng di tla ka fa associated with this Tobacco Levy. Tota go a supafala di neng di ntse di tla ka teng, re kgonne go di emisa gore madi ga a ya kwa bathong ba ba neng ba tshwanetse gore jaanong re sale tsamaiso ya Fund Order morago, e gore ba ka bo ba sologetswe molemo (benefited). Mopalamente a botsang ka yone. Jaanong ke sone se ke supang gore re tlhomile komiti

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e e tshwanetseng ka fa Fund Order e buang ka teng. complications have been in and out of isolation, Re bo re tswelela re bona gore kwa morago go ne go quarantine, sick-leave and/or died between ntse go diragala eng, mme pego e re tla e neela bone ba December 2020 and to date; ba tshwanetseng ba komiti ya Palamente ya PAC. Le ditshwetso tsotlhe tse re di tsereng Mr Speaker. (ii) how has this affected public health service delivery in our health facilities; and MR SALESHANDO: Further supplementary Mr Speaker. I do not think he heard the question. O araba (iii) any intervention measures in place to avert or e sele. Ene o araba e e boditsweng ke Rre Reatile e a mitigate any possible interruptions, caused by setseng a re e baletse ya gore a beneficiaries di bone COVID-19 phenomenon on smooth provision of sengwe. Se ke se botsang ke gore, jaaka o ntse jaana health services in all public health facilities. gompieno o le Tona, mo mading a a setseng a tsentswe, ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND a o itse go na le mangwe madi a a ntshitsweng, mme a WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Thank you so sa tsamaelane le melawana e e beilweng mo nakong ya much Mr Speaker. Ke leboge Honourable Member. Re gompieno? Fa e le gore o a itse gore madi a ntshitswe supe jalo Mr Speaker, gore my ministry is monitoring kgatlhanong le melawana e e tsamaisang fund, o dirile the occurrence of COVID-19 intervention among health eng kana lephata le dirile eng ka gone jaaka re bua jaana? care workers or health care workforce. MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr (i) The total number of doctors and nurses who Speaker. Where I am standing, ga ke ka ke ka re contracted COVID-19 infection between gongwe ke na le a certain figure e ke itseng gore madi a December 2020 to date Mr Speaker, is 42 doctors a ntshitswe ka fa e seng molao wa fund. Se ka gore re se and 276 nurses respectively. Two nurses and one lemogile le rona ka kwano, re ya go se lebelela, re bo re doctor died during that period Mr Speaker. tla re dira pego e e feletseng. Ga ke na any figure e ke ka reng go ntshitswe madi a a kgatlhanong le ka fa molao (ii) The COVID-19 pandemic has adversely affected o tshwanetseng gore o bo o ntse ka teng Mr Speaker. all departments in the health care service delivery, MR SPEAKER: I am sure ba tlaa bona report ya gago. from the corporate side, support staff, main frontline health care workers, being the doctors HONOURABLE MEMBER: Hey! Go a pala ka and nurses. This has affected the daily running of Lelatisitswe. all health facilities. COVID-19 Mr Speaker, has HONOURABLE MEMBER: Go a retela. also negatively affected the delivery of emergency services. These include; the outbreak management HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mhm! go a pala tota. itself, routine services, programmes, the supply chain and related services. Accordingly, waiting MR LELATISITSWE: Is it a comprehension issue or terms for services by the community are now what? longer, despite the fact that available health care MR SALESHANDO: Ga ke itse gore bothata jwa gago workers are continuously working timeously ke eng, gongwe ke wena o ka re itekodisang, kgotsa ke to bridge the gap caused by the absence of their comprehension. colleagues due to isolation or secondary to infection with COVID-19. HONOURABLE MEMBER: O dira ka bomo. (iii) With the support from other ministries and QUESTION WITHOUT NOTICE partners, my ministry is implementing the following interventions to avert the disruption of COVID-19 INTERRUPTIONS ON PROVISION services; OF HEALTH SERVICES • Shifting teams; the approach of shifting MR O. REGOENG (MOLEPOLOLE NORTH): teams with no inter-mixing of team members asked the Minister of Health and Wellness to apprise working in the same environment is being this Honourable House on: implemented, in order to prevent all workers in (i) the number of nurses and doctors in Botswana a single unit to be exposed at the same time and who on account of COVID-19 pandemic related therefore, forcing temporary closure of a unit

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and consequently, temporary unavailability of tse. Mr Speaker, dipalo tse ke tsone that we recorded ka the service. kwano, mme Ministry of Health and Wellness o motona, fa e le gore gongwe go na le tse dingwe which have not • Virtual meetings; are used more often than been recorded, we will come and adjust. So far these are interface fora, we believe this intervention the ones we recorded mo ministry, ba ba re latlhegetseng drastically reduces the exposure experienced e le ba ba mo botsogong. Kana go na le dingaka tse di when meetings contain many officers being ikemetseng (private doctors), bone gongwe ga re a ba physically in the same place at the same time. tsenya mo teng. Virtual meetings further reduce the amount of time travelling between meetings and possibly Fa a bua ka letlhoko la baoki, re kopile kwa Directorate being exposed to COVID-19 in the process. of Public Service Management (DPSM). Jaaka Tona Matsheka maloba a ne a bua a re o kopa gore maphata • Adequate supply of Personal Protective a kgaole babereki, diphatlha tse di sa thibiwang ka 50 Equipment (PPE) and behavioural change. per cent, re kopile gore gongwe rona re le ba ministry The safety of health care workers is attained ba re letlelele gore re kgone go hira, ka gore botsogo ke through the adequate supply of PPE to health workers who interface daily or regularly with jone jo bo tshegeditseng setšhaba. Re tsaya gore kopo clients at health facilities. The intervention e tlaa atlega, maikaelelo ke gore fa re letlelelwa, botlhe is complemented by behavioural change ba ba ntseng le ba engaged e le temporary staff, due to interventions among health workers to this COVID-19, re kgone to absorb some of them into strengthen adherence to protocols, especially the system, so that we can now distribute them to the social distancing during meal times. Social clinics. Ke one maikaelelo a lephata ao Mr Speaker. Ke distancing and assurance of adequate a leboga. ventilation, as well as shortening the amount of times spent in those areas and reducing the MR SPEAKER: Honourable Regoeng. numbers of people eating in the same area or reduce exposure that would have been MR REGOENG: It is fine Mr Speaker. prevented by wearing a mask. MR SPEAKER: In terms of the Order Paper before Honourable Members, those are the interventions in you, we should be dealing with question to the Leader place. It is however, important to note that there is of the House, but at 2:00 p.m. It is always possible if the ongoing engagement on how we can continuously Leader of the House was ready, to dispose of the issue improve the safety of workers and patients, as well as now, but he is probably waiting for 2:00 p.m. the public. Thank you Mr Speaker. Honourable Moatlhodi, o lela ka procedure e o MR REGOENG: Supplementary. Tona, ke utlwa reng morago ga dipotso o batla go bua ka ga yone. karabo ya gago. Selo sa ntlha fela ke gore a mme o Honourable Moatlhodi, tlogela phone eo. dumela gore karabo eo, bogolo jang fa go tla mo go bone dingaka le baoki ba ba re tlogetseng, karabo e o e MR MOATLHODI: Mr Speaker. filweng ya gore o mongwefela e le mooki, o mongwefela e le ngaka, a o a e tlhomamisa gore ke yone? A o dumela MR SPEAKER: Gatwe o lela ka procedure. kgang eo ya gore o mongwefela jalo? MR MOATLHODI: Procedure. Ke a leboga Sa bobedi, ka gore re a bona gore bolwetse jo bo tsaya Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. phekelo e, le fa re santse re solofetse gore molemo o tlaa Good morning sir. Ke lela ka procedure Mr Speaker re thusa. Letlhoko le re ntseng re na le lone la nurses, go gore, Standing Order 38.4 vigorously empowers your ya pele, tota fela o ikaelela go le dira ka tsela e e ntseng good self Mr Speaker, gore potso e e tlhokang karabo e jang, bogolo jang mo clinics? Ke a leboga. teleletelele e Motlotlegi Rraetsho Modukanele a tsereng nako yotlhe a e araba, Standing Order se go letla gore o MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, gakere ga gona re “no, mo neele written answer” gona le nako yotlhe melemo? e re e tsereng. Ka boikokobetso le tlotlo Motlotlegi MR LELATISITSWE: Thank you so much Mr Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke go gakolole Speaker. Potso ya ntlha e ne e re a re tlhomamisa dipalo fela ke le motho wa gago sir. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker.

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MR SPEAKER: You are dead right Honourable ongoing which probably by next week will be finalised. Moatlhodi. Jaanong, go na le… ga ke itse gore ka If he wants to go ahead with it, well, I have the written Setswana le go bitsa le reng, ku na bugwa no lebeleka. answer which I need to internalise however, so that I can answer that question and be able to be prepared for MR MOATLHODI: Kana ndiyo khani. supplementaries this afternoon. I wanted to get to the MR SPEAKER: So, when I heard your questions, I had bottom of the answer, so that we should not be seen to be a pretty good idea gore re tlaa nna le nakonyana… brushing over these critical issues. So I …(Inaudible)… to say whether he would mind later dating it or he will MR MOATLHODI: Ee rra. want us to continue this afternoon with the response that I have. I thank you Mr Speaker. MR SPEAKER: …e go ka arabiwang re sa kgoreletse ope. You are right Honourable Moatlhodi, such long MR SPEAKER: Thank you Vice President. I can see answers require that they be given gore re se ka ra Honourable Keorapetse, fa e le gore o a go utlwa o ka latlhegelwa ke nako ya tse dingwe tsa Palamente supa gore o akanya jang. tse di tshwanetseng gore di dirwe. Thank you much Honourable Moatlhodi. MR KEORAPETSE: Ee, ke a mo utlwa Mr Speaker. Gone go tshwanetse go bo go diregile phosego golo MR MOATLHODI: Nda tenda Mbizi. gongwe, because kana potso e ke e rometse ka Monday last week. For the coming days; Tuesday, Wednesday, MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, in the absence I have been trying to follow-up gore a His Honour the of the Leader of the House… Vice President o bone potso eo. When it was later dated HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mr Speaker… by way of removing it from the Order Paper ya last week, I thought a week was enough. Re nnile le weekend, MR SPEAKER: Yes sir. Monday to Thursday, ke ne ke ithaya ke re gongwe His HONOURABLE MEMBER: I beg your indulgence Honour the Vice President will be ready with an answer, Mr Speaker. because tota kana dilo tse e di botsang fa ke di lebelela ke bona di le basic thata. Ke dumela gore ke dilo tse ba MR SPEAKER: Vice President (VP). ba mo Taskforce, o ka ba di botsang without noticing them. So, ga ke itse gore a he feels strongly gore ga a mo LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): seemong sa go e araba this afternoon, gore re ye kwa go Mr Speaker, I am not sure whether the mover of the Labone yo o tlang kana jang? question is around. In case he is around I would like to appeal to him in view of the circumstances surrounding MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker. If I may this question, such that the question as it started, it went Mr Speaker. Yes, you are right Honourable MP. There from your office, you reverted to him once, and we are figures and facts, but there are statements which also wanted to get clarity on exactly what the questions also have to be dealt with by different ministries. This surrounding the theme are. It took time to get to know question is not only for the Ministry of Health alone, it what exactly will be the focal point of his question. Only touches on a number of ministries. As you have rightly to get an attachment late in the day which was about said when we got the attachment, these other ministries three pages, which was to guide the theme, but it is not did not have the attachment so it was very difficult to part of the question as it appears on the Order Paper coordinate. Once we got the attachment we thought Mr Speaker. So that gave us a little bit of a problem, there would be very few and straightforward questions. because we wanted to answer this question as ably as we Your attachment is helpful through your assessment you can, because it is a very critical and important question. were even highlighting the same could be part of the We cannot brush over it and just be guided by the theme. background of the question. That we appreciate. As I am saying much as you may say, there are pretty basic So this morning, I tried to get hold of Honourable things but we must get everything factually correct. If Keorapetse, unfortunately, I think he was engaged and we present something today, like I am saying, and the his phone could not go through. Just to find out if it is task team is in the process of dealing with the same possible for him to later date it, so that we can thoroughly matter. Let me give you an example of a roll out plan as get to the bottom of this. Some of the processes that it is ongoing. We only have to say okay such and such he alluded to in the attachment, are processes that are a thing is ongoing, it is not nice. We need to provide an

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answer. This is where I have a problem. I do not have a going forward our policies are informed or are shaped problem to just go through what we have this afternoon. by empirical evidence. If not, does the Government I thank you. intend to do one and when? We need to be continuously assessing to make sure we are not zoned into one MR KEORAPETSE: Mr Speaker, I think let us channel. proceed with the question this afternoon. Mr Speaker, following the identification of positive MR SPEAKER: Thank you VP. Honourable Keorapetse cases, His Excellency the President declared a State of feels that we should proceed with the question with what Public Emergency (SoE) on the 31st March 2020, for the you have at 2 p.m. A re mmogo VP? purpose of taking appropriate and stringent measures to address the risk posed by COVID-19 pandemic effective MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker. Thank you midnight of the 2nd April 2020. Has the State of Public Honourable Keorapetse. It is fine. Emergency assisted Botswana so far? If so, how? Are we MR KEORAPETSE: Thank you Your Honour. better off than other countries which have not declared State of Emergencies when we look for instance at the MR SPEAKER: Thank you very much. Honourable number of those killed by Coronavirus and a number of infections relating to the ratio to population? Would you Members, that concludes the matters which we have to say we are better off for instance than say South Africa, deal with this morning. Let us adjourn to have a cup of not just looking at the numbers of South Africa but the tea and then lunch and be back at 2 p.m. The House is ratio to population? Will the President ask Parliament to adjourned. extend the State of Public Emergency which is coming PROCEEDINGS SUSPENDED AT 1 P.M. FOR to an end in a few weeks if not days? APPROXIMATELY 1 HOUR The President set up a taskforce to lead the fight. How PROCEEDINGS RESUMED AT 2 P.M. much has been spent on the taskforce as salaries, allowances and other things? What has been achieved MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members, by the task team and what can be done to achieve good afternoon. Let us resume the business of today more? COVID-19 there is no doubt Mr Speaker that it with the questions for the Leader of the House. is a huge burden on the fiscals. Is it possible to disband the task force because of the financial implications and LEADER OF THE HOUSE’S QUESTION assemble a team in the Ministry of Health comprising of TIME the ministry’s staff? How much has been used in total THEME: COVID-19 PANDEMIC in the fight against the scourge and how has this money MANAGEMENT been used? His Honour the Vice President can provide a separate list and breakdown of how the money has MR D. L. KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE been used. WEST): Thank you Right Honourable Speaker. Mr Most importantly, can his Honour the Vice President Speaker, it has been nearly a year since the Coronavirus update Parliament on how exactly hospitals, clinics and was detected in Botswana and the theme before the other health facilities were prepared for the scourge and House is on the COVID-19 general management. The their current status? Is there any facility, which has been nation needs an update on how the management of upgraded or refurbished specifically for COVID-19? COVID-19 pandemic has been and whether we are Has any facility besides Sir Ketumile Masire been winning the war. turned into a high care facility to care for COVID-19 patients? Do we have any facility in the northern part What has been the strategy? Has this strategy been of the country that has been reconfigured into providing reviewed or will it be reviewed? Has it worked or is services similar to the ones COVID-19 patients are it working? What are the number of infections and getting at Sir Ketumile Masire Hospital? Can the deaths telling us? What lessons are we learning as a Government ensure that there is such a facility in other country? Has the Government carried out a COVID-19 parts of the country? Impact Empirical Assessment to make sure there is an understanding of the real effects of the disease on Most importantly, how has the management of individuals, families and institutions to make sure that quarantine and isolation facilities been? I know there

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are old hospitals in Mahalapye and Serowe for instance, How much of the South African variant is within why is it that these hospitals are lying idle and not being Botswana borders? Is it possible that the sudden spike used to manage COVID-19? Do you have adequate test in COVID-19 positive cases and deaths could be kits? What is the quantity of rapid diagnostic, PCR or attributed to it? Recently we heard Botswana Institute other test kits that have been procured and/or donated? for Technology Research and Innovation (BITRI) Is there any shortage of test kits? If yes, why? If not, saying that they have a technology to detect the variant, why is it that rapid test kits are widely used whereas what role have they played to that end? Are the types of there are restrictions when it comes to PCR? Is there vaccines the country is waiting for, including the ones enough oxygen in health facilities? What sort of drugs that it has received from India, able to deal with the South are used to manage the disease? Do we have enough of African variant? My worry and indeed many Members these drugs at private and public health facilities? How of Parliament worries, especially in my political party much of the oxygen gas is available compared to before is that if we do not make this kind of information COVID-19? How many ventilators have been bought public, we risk higher rates of vaccine hesitancy. What to prepare for the COVID-19 scourge? How many such measures does Government have in place to deal with machines do we have in each facility across the country? anti-vax information? Has the Government considered How has the shortage affected the management of lobbying medical aid companies to come to the party COVID-19? and absorb some of the costs on behalf of their clients? Mr Speaker, what is the number of beds including In fact, Government should also encourage these high care beds the country had prior to COVID-19 medical aids to assist in paying for their patients to be and how many additional beds; ordinary and high care tested, and also to play a role in paying for the vaccines. beds had been procured to fight the pandemic? How Are there private companies being mobilised to assist many additional ambulances had been procured? What with vaccine procurement? That is what I suggested additional health related materials, equipment and when I responded to the Budget Speech, that we need machines had been procured or donated for COVID-19. to mobilise big companies to assist. That said, what is How many patients are admitted at Sir Ketumile Masire the cost per citizen for the jab? Would there be one-time and is the facility coping? Is the whole health care jab or two jabs? system coping? These are the questions in short Right Honourable How many Safety, Health and Environment (SHE) Speaker that we need answers from the Vice President. Officers or COVID-19 Scorpions have been engaged Why is it that in many countries we see senior and will their contracts be extended given the surge politicians, especially Presidents taking the lead and in the number of casualties and infections? I will skip being vaccinated in public to assure the public and sort Paragraph 5, 6 and 7 because I know that His Honour the of restore confidence that the vaccine will work and so Vice President has this question in full, and go straight much needed and important that citizens take it? Why to the vaccine. Why is there no publicly accessible is it that it looks like there is no hurry by the President, vaccination plan? Other countries do have plans and this Vice President and his Ministers to take vaccine? Ke change as …(inaudible)… circumstances so dictate but utlwile gore ba re ba bangwe ba re ga ba batle go tsenelela line but I think people want to see the leaders e they are public. Why is it that many countries including le bone ba eteletseng kwa pele ba tsaya vaccine gore ba those that we have been ahead of in many ways, already tle ba bone gore a mme ke boammaaruri. Ke tlaa emela vaccinating their populations? What really cause the dikarabo Right Honourable Speaker, I thank you. delay? What types of vaccines have been ordered? What is their prices, and companies or manufactures and LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): what specific quantities are we expecting? How many Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, as I have rightly Batswana would be vaccinated by end of April, May, indicated this morning that this is a very critical subject, June and end of the year 2021? What are the general and really needs cooperation and sufficient time, not vaccines and vaccination targets? Re solofetse vaccine only within this shortest period of having to answer the kae, re e rekile kae, re e rekile ka bokae, how much have question, it is not one question. It is a host of questions we budgeted, re solofetse e e kae mo nakong e e kae? I that require comprehensive information. Some know that there is a Covishield which is a donation from information which is ongoing of course, as I indicated India which has arrived. We commend diplomatic effort this morning, that it would be very unnecessary to give in that regard. time to this type of question.

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Let me put on my mask although I am alone in my room having the benefit of that consultation, if there are any to show commitment and leadership. questions that have not been answered, it is not because he does not want to answer, hence his plea that please Mr Speaker, in any case, let me attempt to answer the continue to engage. There is nothing wrong with that question that as I said, it would not cover the whole host procedure. of questions as requested or asked by the mover. It is an issue that would not be left alone and it will have to MR TSOGWANE: Thank you Mr Speaker. I think be continued some other time, either by a statement or Honourable Gobotswang o go utlwile sentle jaanong. some other questions to make the follow-up on those With that understanding which I think it is a common that have not been covered. Be assured Honourable understanding between the mover of the question and Member that those that would not be covered today, me, let me go to the question as it is. The theme is please mark them for future questions or a request for a COVID-19 pandemic management. Mr Speaker, you statement, especially from the Minister of Health. will pardon me because I will also have to summarise briefly in Setswana when I end my presentation, for the Having said that Mr Speaker, let me take this opportunity benefit of those compatriots and citizens who may not and thank those that are working hand in hand with have the advantage of the language. I will do so but it Government in trying to fight this pandemic. We all know as a question has indicated that we have stakeholders, would be very brief summary to allow Members to also people assigned some functions to try and assist and make their interventions, if indeed we have enough time help Government to fight this. We also need to thank the as I have indicated. Members of Parliament and local leadership for having Mr Speaker, on the 11th March 2020, the World cooperated and collaborated in endeavour to fight this Health Organisation (WHO) declared the outbreak of pandemic. Otherwise we would have not achieved what COVID-19 as a global pandemic. Although Botswana we have achieved without their cooperation. People are had not recorded any case at the time, measures were looking up to them for leadership. Having said that Mr put in place to prevent the spread and transmission of Speaker, I must also thank those who are embarking on public education like the programmes on Botswana the pandemic locally. Television (BTV) which are also helping in giving The following structures were established to facilitate updates. We also have a lot of programmes… Botswana’s response to the pandemic; MR SPEAKER: Honourable Vice President (VP), • The multi-sectoral Presidential COVID-19 Taskforce Honourable Gobotswang thinks there is something chaired by His Excellency the President; wrong with our procedure. • A COVID-19 Task Team being a technical advisory DR GOBOTSWANG: Procedure. Motsamaisa team headed by the Coordinator Dr Kereng Masupu; Dipuisanyo, ke ne ke re gongwe re tle re dumalane sentle ka tsamaiso. Ke ne ke utlwa Honourable VP a re • National Emergency Operation Centre to coordinate dipotso tse di dintsi mme o tlaa leka go araba tse dingwe, the practical response. mme tse dingwe di tlaa nna di botswa nako nngwe ka dipotso kana statements. Ke ne ke ithaya ke re o kare re • Several district emergency operation centres to dumalane mo nakong e e fetileng gore fa e le gore karabo facilitate local practical responses. e ntsi, the Honourable VP o ka leka to summarise it, a bo a neela yo o boditseng potso karabo ka bophara jwa Mr Speaker, a key role of the Presidential Taskforce yone a araba dipotso tsotlhe tse di boditsweng. E seng is to coordinate all national activities pertaining to gore a bo a re di tlaa tla di botswa nako nngwe. Ke one the containment and control of the pandemic. These matshwenyego a me a tsamaiso Mr Speaker. include; monitoring the disease, developing a response plan, as well as advising on the most effective strategies MR SPEAKER: Honourable Dr Gobotswang, I think for preventing COVID-19. It comprises of a diverse you have totally misunderstood, there is no issue of range of stakeholders in the country, such as Cabinet procedure. The VP a re even himself he had wished … Ministers, Permanent Secretaries, Business Botswana, (Inaudible)… your time …(Inaudible)… consultation. Baruti and Trade Unions. Therefore, the group is diverse That is what he said. Since he is going to answer without in its representation of interest groups in the country.

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Mr Speaker, under the advice of the COVID-19 Mr Speaker, the COVID-19 Task Team continues to Task Team and the Cabinet of course, the President provide scientific advice on the management of the declared a State of Emergency (SoE) or Public Health COVID-19 pandemic to the Taskforce when required. Emergency, which was followed by the declaration of To date, their function is still relevant Mr Speaker, along State of Emergency, with effect from midnight of the those lines. Further to that, this Honourable House has 2nd April, 2020. The declaration, which was to end on on some occasions, also been briefed by the Task Team the 2nd October 2020, was extended by six months. on ongoing efforts to combat the spread of COVID-19 in The declaration and extension were meant to prevent the country. Mr Speaker, let me highlight that members and contain the local spread and transmission of the of the Taskforce receive remuneration for their taskforce pandemic. To date Mr Speaker, the country has achieved duties. This question Mr Speaker, was earlier on asked the following: by the Honourable Leader of the House in September, I think I have the question with me here. So it is just a High Testing Rate recent update on that...

The country has been able to test 815 362 people. This HONOURABLE MEMBER: Correction Vice translates to over 369 tests conducted per 1000 people. President (VP), Leader of the Opposition. This was made possible by satellite laboratories which complemented the Botswana National Health Laboratory MR TSOGWANE: Leader of the Opposition, I can see and Botswana-Harvard Laboratory in Gaborone. The he smiles when I say Leader of the House. positivity rate within the country has been maintained below 5 per cent, currently at 4.5 per cent, signifying the HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... ability to contain and control the rampant community HONOURABLE MEMBER: Kana o re shadow disease. The case fatality rate has remained below 1 per Leader of the House. cent or 0.93. This is relatively low Mr Speaker, when compared to other countries in the region. Through its MR TSOGWANE: To date Mr Speaker, they have collectively...(Interruptions)… a total of P5,320,840.70, stringent border security, Botswana was able to delay the ke madi a re a duetseng otlhe to date. introduction of the disease into the country, as we are all aware. Furthermore, the country was able to delay the As an additional measure Mr Speake; the community spread through its effective test, treat and operationalization of a National Public Health Institute, trace strategy. Botswana is also led in the uptake and an organisation which will allow continuous learning passing into law of non-pharmaceutical preventative and the building of effective capacity for successful measures, social measures such as sanitising, social response is key. Various sectors across the economy will distancing, wearing of face mask in the public. review their policies and laws to ensure compliance and the alignment to potential threats that may disrupt our Mr Speaker, despite the achievements above, we lives and economy. continue to encounter challenges associated with COVID-19 since the 1st of October 2020. There has Mr Speaker, the procurement of COVID-19 vaccines been an exponential increase in the number of cases is ongoing, we acknowledge the assistance from other across some key COVID-19 indices. By then, there were Governments, inter-Governmental organisations 2755 Botswana cases and 16 deaths, while by the 5th and agencies, the private sector and Civil Society March 2021, there were 30 855 Botswana cases and 413 Organisations in securing these vaccines and the deaths, but gaining momentum during the Christmas implementation of the immunisation strategy. holidays. Adherence to COVID-19 protocols at some Botswana’s procurement of vaccines is based on the retail outlets and social events is also a factor, and so is COVID-19 variants detected in the country. We have the detection of the South African variant in Botswana. therefore, opted for a multiple vaccine approach to General complacency and fatigue by the public and to ensure that we do not place the entire population at risk ...(Inaudible)… some extent, frontline workers, were if one of the vaccines does not perform as expected. I identified as some of the challenges. It is therefore, must emphasise that the vaccines being procured will necessary to intensify community engagement through work against original variants which might not be many civil society, business community and the Local in Botswana currently. As we await the development Government Leadership structures. of new vaccines to combat Botswana specific variants,

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we must continue these. Mr Speaker, we are aware or possible prosecution. There is no conviction yet. Save we have been advised that once there is a new variant, for the 33 reports referred to above, the majority of cases it takes the centre stage, and it overtakes the original are still under investigation. Therefore at this juncture, variant, so that is the precaution. there are no further cases that have been forwarded to ministries for disciplinary action. A plan is being finalised to support a closely monitored mass immunisation programme. In implementing this Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Local Government and plan, we will take a public health approach in line Rural Development has put measures in place to with national laws and our customary consultative respond to the COVID-19 pandemic, being a ministry process, in order to cover as many people in the shortest entrusted with the welfare of the nation, particularly possible time. The vaccination programme will ensure vulnerable members of the society. The need for a fair and equitable distribution of the vaccines and cushioning such population at these critical times will be supported by a clearly articulated risk-based cannot be over-emphasised. Mr Speaker, the provision communication strategy, to ensure that everyone in the of social services has been prioritised as essential country is vaccinated. service. This includes the provision of services through various social safety nets. We have already registered Government has decided to prioritise the elderly, health clientele including orphans, vulnerable children, care professionals, frontline workers, and those with destitute persons, community home-based care patients serious health conditions. A plan is in place to ensure and drought stricken beneficiaries. that those unable to travel to immunisation centres will receive the vaccination at their homes. Additionally, other social benefits in form of cash allowances continue, these include Old Age Pension, Mr Speaker, we expect to receive our first batch of World War Veteran Allowance, Disability Cash Transfer procured vaccines during the course of March 2021. We and Destitute Cash Allowance to further provide a have already received a donation of 30 000 of Covishield cushion to the targeted members of the society. Over doses from India. The vaccination was received on the and above the targeted social services noted above Mr th 9 March 2021. Covishield has been approved for use by Speaker, Government through the Ministry of Local Botswana Medicines Regulatory Authority (BoMRA). Government and Rural Development, further undertook It is anticipated that the vaccine will be rolled out at the comprehensive assessment of the household to the earliest in the next three weeks. Communication in determine the household needs in order to subsequently this regard will be shared with the public soon. I urge provide food relief to the affected households, those that will be the first recipients of the dose to do so particularly those from the informal sector. This is confidently, even though the Honourable Member has because of the interruption of their day to day informal indicated that, that confidence may be drawn by putting and small scale economic activities due to COVID-19 the leadership in the forefront. That would be determined pandemic. by the plan that will be unveiled, I think by next week. This vaccine has been certified for use by both World Mr Speaker, while a provision of social services Health Organisation (WHO) and BoMRA. Mr Speaker, continues as essential during the lockdown period and we are in discussions with vaccine researchers and throughout the State of Emergency (SoE), the need for developers and we will keep the nation abreast with psycho-social support has become even more critical. developments and trends pertaining to COVID-19 and This is due to the distress and unrest that the pandemic its vaccines. has infused into the public, causing mild to severe mental psycho-social strain in the members of the Mr Speaker, since the first lockdown to date, the community at large, and otherwise destabilisation and Directorate on Corruption and Economic Crime (DCEC) further extending their normal coping mechanism. I am has received 61 reports of corruption associated with sure this will make Honourable Lucas very happy. COVID-19 tenders. Out of the 61 reports, 24 reports were classified for investigation by DCEC. All reports Mr Speaker, therefore psycho-social support has been were related to already existing cases, while 33 reports identified as a critical area of interventions to mitigate were referred to other Government entities. So far, one the COVID-19 after effects. The Ministry of Local case had been submitted to the Directorate of Public Government and Rural Development has therefore Prosecutions (DPP) for assessment of evidence and been tasked with the responsibility to spearhead the

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intervention and to facilitate for the acceleration where ke gore ba BoMRA ba rurifatse gore ee, boammaaruri needful as well as to coordinate the national COVID-19 ba lebile mokwalo o o tswang kwa dikomponeng tseo, a psycho-social support response. Specifically, Ministry ke mo ba ka tswelelang ba letlelela gore go ka tsenngwa of Local Government and Rural Development was the orders. tasked to facilitate for the psycho-social support, to be offered to COVID-19 clientele at quarantines, Ke tsaya gore re lebeletse the vaccines, thatathata tsa managers, frontline workers and the members of the Pfizer le Johnson & Johnson. Although dikitsiso tse re public ...(Inaudible)… di utlwang informally, mo dipegong tse di diragalang tsa mafatshe, ba ba foletseng Johnson & Johnson, go Mr Speaker, that ends my response. Having footnoted tlaa tsaya lebakanyana. Re utlwa mo mafatsheng a the concerns I earlier on indicated, it is work in progress. mangwe a a tshwanang le bo America ba ba saleng ba beeleditse, gore go tlaa dirwa gongwe lebaka le le MR KEORAPETSE: Ke kopa go botsa Mothusa leele, dikgwedikgwedi gore go bo go lekantswe dipalo Tautona gore, a le na le maikaelelo le le Puso ya go tla tsa bone. Gape mo go yone eo, re ipaya mo seemong mo Palamenteng go tla go kopa koketso ya SoE? Ke sa go nna mo ditekeletsong ka gore the vaccines tse potso ya ntlha. dingwe tse, fa o bona di setse di gorogile mo mafelong Potso ya bobedi ke gore, a ga o na information mo a mangwe, ke ka go nna mo ditekeletsong. Ke gone mo batho bangwe ba leng boi gore vaccine e ise e rurifadiwe bojaanong, ke lebeletse mabaka a o setseng o a buile mo stage sa bofelo, ba bo ba ka e folela, ba nna mo gore, mefuta ya vaccines tse le setseng le tsentse order ditekeletsong. So fa le mo ditekeletsong jaana, ba na le ke ofe? Ke utlwile o bua gore go na le variants tse di tshono ya gore fa go ntse go tsweletse, e bo e le gore ba farologanyeng which you detected e bile maikaelelo ke a amega… go leka go reka vaccines tse di farologanyeng. Tse le setseng le di dueletse le le Goromente, le dueletse tse Le yone ya kwa Russia, ditlhotlhomiso di ntse di gotweng mang? Kwa kae? Di palo e e kae? Le solofela tsweletse. Ba BoMRA ba ntse ba tsweletse ka go leba gore di bo di gorogile leng? Tota ke ne ke re ke botse mekwalo. E ya China le yone, re ntse re tsweletse le tsone tseo, ke tlaa fa ba bangwe sebaka gore ba botse. go lebelela mekwalo go bona gore we accredit these vaccines gore e tle e re fa re kgona go reka, re dire jalo. MR TSOGWANE: Ke a leboga Honourable Member. Fa re sa dira jalo, go ya go nna thata gore ba BOMRA Before your questions ke ne ke re gongwe ke soboke, ba ntshe licence kana ba letlelele gore melemo eo e it will help because your questions are in the language rekisiwe. Ke tsaya gore tseo di ntse jalo. that people will understand. Maybe I must go through Ka bokhutshwanyane batlotlegi, ke sa le jele nako, ke them before I give members, just to give a very brief batla go supa fela jalo gore jaaka ke boletse, re tsweletse summary. ka go lwantsha bolwetse jo jwa COVID-19. Fa re sale Di a utlwala sir. Koketso ya SoE; go santse go re simolotse, jaaka le itse gore re simolotse kae mme sekasekiwa. Tautona o santse a fiwa dikgakololo jaaka e bile makalana a a neng a tlhomiwa ke Tautona, one ke buile gore go na le taskforce le Cabinet, mme ke se a bo Presidential Task Force re …(Inaudible)…tsenya re se sekasekang re lebile seemo ka fa se ntseng ka teng. ministries, re dira dithulaganyo tse di rileng. The Task Ga ke ka ke ka tlhomamisa gore se tlaa okediwa kana ga Team, ke bogakolodi bogolo jwa …(Inaudible)…tse nke se okediwe. Se se salang fela ke gore, we must keep di rileng …(Inaudible)… Go na le bangwe, jaaka ke our eyes on the ball gore mme e tlaa re fa se sa okediwe, boletse gore re na le baruti, trade unions le ba dikgwebo mo boemong jwa teng go diragale eng. Fa se okediwa ba emetswe ke Business Botswana. Ke dingwe tsa dilo go tlaa diragala eng, re kgonne eng, ke eng se re neng re tse re tsweletseng ka tsone batho betsho. ka tswelela re se kgona le fa se seyo. Ke mabaka otlhe a Ke boletse gore mo nakong ya gompieno, re setse re re a phuthileng, a re a beileng fa pele. Mo nakong e e sa fitlheletse tse di latelang; ke tlaa alela tsone tseo before fediseng pelo, ke tsaya gore pele ga se wela, kitsiso eo e ke neela batlotlegi. Re kgonne gore re tlhatlhobe batho tlaa nna teng motlotlegi. ba le about 815 362. Gape re kgonne go fitlhelela se Vaccines; ke ka se rurifatse dipalo, jaaka ke boletse ke ka matlhatlhobelo a a tshwanang le laboratory ya re maphata a mangwe a ne a sa gorosa dikarabo tsa bone Botswana, Botswana- Harvard Laboratory le tse dingwe ka nako. Fela gone re rile re ya go dirisa the vaccines, re tse di ikemetseng tse re ntseng re di rotloetsa, re di ntse re leka gore ba BoMRA ba rurifatse. Kana to order, sekaseka gore le tsone di dire tlhatlhobo.

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Ke supe gore dintsho le tsone di kwa tlase. Le fa re itse Ya bobedi; o re tlhalosetse gore Ministry of Health and gore mo Setswaneng sa rona, ga go nke gotwe dintsho Wellness, o ne o ntshitse bokae o neela Red Cross go di kwa tlase; motho a le mongwefela fa a sule, e ntse ke duela bao ba e leng gore they volunteered mo contact dipalo tse di tshwenyang. Re bua di le kwa tlase jaana, re tracing ya bolwetse jo? O bo o tlhalosa gore mo nakong tshwantshanya dipalo tsa lefatshe la rona gore mafatshe ya gompieno, ke eng the volunteers tse tsa Red Cross, a mangwe ba setse ba tsamaya mo dintshong tse di ba tlogela (resign) ka dipalo tse di kwa godimo? A ba fetang bo 5 per cent. Tsa rona re kwa tlase ga 1 per cent duelwa sentle? La bofelo ba duelwa ke leng? O kare go fa go tshwantshanngwa. Se re se dirile jalo batho betsho, na le dikgwedi di ka nna pedi, tharo, these volunteers ba ka go baya melawana e e thata, e le itseng gore re ntse re sa duelwe, mme Ministry of Health and Wellness one o e beile ya go laola bolwetse. Re setse re itemogetse gore ntshitse madi. melawana eo e batla gore e salwe morago. Ya bofelo; a mme ga o bone Mothusa Tautona gore Se se tshwenyang gape se gongwe ke ka fetang ka sone given seemo ka fa se ntseng ka teng, gongwe go tlaa gompieno ke gore, melawana ya go rwala masks, kana tlhokafala gore re dire dilo tse pedi; go baakanngwe go setse go itshupa gore bangwe ga ba e tseye tsia. Public Health Act gore e tle e kgone to manage and deal Re setse re bona le mo mekwalong ya dipampiri gore with future pandemics? Re se ka ra tlhola re iphitlhela re bangwe ba dikereke ga ba sale melawana eo morago, tshwanelwa ke gore jaanong re bo re tsena mo State of mme e le selo se se tshwenyang Mr Speaker. Emergency. A ga re bone gore… LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (MR MR SPEAKER: Honourable Mmolotsi, there is no SALESHANDO): On a point of procedure. Motsamaisa time; you are not going to get the answer. Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, kana nako ya gore potso e bo e arabilwe, e bile re boditse, e tsamaela go wela. MR MMOLOTSI: Alright sir. Jaanong ke a utlwa gore Vice President fa a sena go botswa potso, he decided gore a e arabe, a bo a ranola MR TSOGWANE: Tanki. Mr Speaker, the vaccines di the very long answer into Setswana. Go tlaabo go raya a tlhatlhobiwa. Fa di goroga, di gorogela mo diatleng tsa gore ga go na ope yo o yang go mmotsa potso. Ke eng ba Health, ba kopana le bone ba BoMRA, ba rurifatsa re sa re re mo utlwile, a re letlelele re mmotse dipotso, gore ke boammaaruri these vaccines di mo seemong se gona le gore a ranole karabo yotlhe ka Setswana? ba solofeditsweng gore di tlaabo di tla di le mo go sone. So eo ke tshwanetse ke go e rurifaletse. MR SPEAKER: Yes, because we are now left with only four minutes. Jaanong ya Ministry of Health and Wellness gore ba duetse the volunteers tsa Red Cross bokae, tota ga ke MR TSOGWANE: Leader of the Opposition, ke tsaya na dipalo tsa go nna jalo. Ke potso e ke ka se keng ka gore you are right. Kana ke gore gone tota fa re bua fa, e latlha, ke tsaya gore le bone ba Health ba teng ba a go a bo gore le Batswana ba re utlwe kwa gae. Mme utlwa. Ba ya go baakanya karabo eo o tle o e bone, jaaka o bua, nako fa e setse e tsamaile jaana, go ya go le ya gore go duetswe batho ba bokae le gore ke eng ba baya ka kwa mosing. Like I said, potso e, re tla kopana tsweletse ka go tlogela go thusa. le Rre Keorapetse, re bone dintlha tse di saletseng kwa morago gore di ka tla jang tsa tsena mo Palamenteng. E nngwe ke ya gore, a ga se nako ya gore re sekaseke Ka go rialo, tla ke dire jaaka motlotlegi a kopa gore Public Health Act? Nnyaa, moo gone ke dingwe tsa gongwe ba le babedi, ba le bararo ba kgone go botsa. dilo tse di tshwanetseng go sekasekwe jaaka o bua. Ke a leboga. Mo lekgotleng le la bogakolodi, la Task Force, go na le Ramelaomogolo, yo e leng gore le ene he is a Chief MR MMOLOTSI: Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Vice Legal Advisor to the President. President, o ne o bua gore ba BoMRA ba sekaseka dipampiri jaaka di tswa kwa makalaneng a a re fang Le ene o a bo a ntse a lebeletse a tlhodumetse, a bodiwa vaccine le kwa WHO. Ke re a mme gone fa the vaccines gore go tlhaela fa kae mo Public Health Act, go ka di goroga mono, a go na le sengwe se ba se dirang mo go dirwa eng. Ke tsaya gore ba e tshwere ba lephata leo tsone, in terms of testing go bona gore a di mo seemong go bona gore go tlhaela fa kae, go ka tweng. Gone re se se siameng? Do we have that capacity locally, e e tshwanetse ra itse gore mo go Constitutional ga se mo ka kgonang to test, go bona gore a vaccines tse di mo go ka emisitswang ka Public Health Act. Yone e ka nna seemong se di ka amogelesegang? le meno a e ka lomang ka one ka fa e leng gore e ka

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loma ka teng, mme ga go tseela batho ditshwanelo tsa brought about by the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. bone tsa setho foo re a itse ba rotlhe gore ga se mo go ka My ministry will continue to ensure full implementation imisetswang ka molawana o o ntseng jalo. Ke a leboga. of the Anti-Human Trafficking National Action Plan 2018-2022, and the effective operationalisation of the MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, we have 30 Anti-Human Trafficking Act of 2014. seconds, you cannot do anything with that. The Vice President says you have to find another time and try My ministry is drafting a Bill to amend the Anti-Human to ask differently for the same information. There are Trafficking Act to usher in more stringent measures to many ways of killing a cat. detect and curb the offence, and better align it to the UN Protocol to prevent, suppress and punish trafficking in ASSEMBLY IN COMMITTEE persons, especially women and children.

(CHAIRPERSON in the Chair) Mr Chairperson, whilst there are 19 cases of human trafficking before the Courts in this financial year, my APPROPRIATION (2021/2022) BILL, ministry remains committed to ensuring that Batswana 2021 (NO. 2 OF 2021) are protected from this highly debilitating and inhumane ORGANISATION 2500 – MINISTRY OF crime. We continue to allocate the requisite funds to DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY successfully execute our national anti-human trafficking agenda. (Resumed Debate) PRIVATE SECURITY SERVICES MR CHAIRPERSON (MR SKELEMANI): Note Mr Chairperson, subsequent to the gazettement of the Honourable Members that 2 hours 25 minutes have Private Security Services Regulations, 2020 on the been allocated to this Organisation and I shall call upon 27th March 2020, the implementation of the Private the Minister to reply to the debate at 1640 hours today Security Services Act 2015 came into full effect and has and the question will be put at 1710 hours. allowed for the introduction of new security services complimenting the normal security guard services. MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Mr The ministry has partnered with the Botswana Chairperson. Let me continue where I had stopped Innovation Hub in order to automate all the licensing yesterday. processes. The intention is to improve access to the licensing services and to ensure database security and REFUGEE WELFARE AND MANAGEMENT electronic archiving of records. The current refugee population in Botswana is 1093. CHEMICAL, BIOLOGICAL NUCLEAR AND During 2020, 281 Zimbabwean refugees were voluntarily RADIOLOGICAL MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY repatriated to their country of origin. However, (CBNRMA) repatriation efforts had to be temporarily halted due to COVID-19 travel and movement restrictions. Efforts are Mr Chairperson, the CBNRMA was recently established ongoing to complete the repatriation of the remaining in line with Section 5 of the Chemical Weapons 242 former Zimbabwean refugees. (Prohibition) Act of 2018, to prevent proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in compliance with Mr Chairperson, on the 31st January 2021, United Financial Action Task Force (FATF) Recommendations. Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) This calls for organised and coherent measures to closed its office in Gaborone but continues to maintain regulate and control the applications of the material presence at Dukwi Refugee Camp with a protection from a safety, security and non-proliferation perspective officer and a small team of staff to facilitate continued without impeding on the beneficial application thereof. operation and provide services in the camp. Mr Chairperson, the threat of terrorism has increased ANTI-HUMAN TRAFFICKING and diversified worldwide and cannot be ignored. It is therefore, imperative to strengthen the prevention and Mr Chairperson, the United Nations (UN) has warned detection of illicit uses and proliferation financing of that at a global level, the crime of human trafficking may weapons of mass destruction by building capacity and be increased by the adverse socio-economic climate capability.

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Mr Chairperson, import - export and inventory control The main aim behind the Botswana Defence Force measures will be strengthened in order to prevent, detect (BDF) mandate of defending the territorial integrity, and respond to incidences of proliferation of potential sovereignty and national interests is to create a safe, materials. secure and peaceful environment for the citizens. Such an environment is critical for the realisation of the OFFICE OF THE RECEIVER national priorities and strategic objectives. For these Mr Chairperson, the Office of the Receiver continues reasons, the importance to maintain a highly motivated, to receive Court Orders for seizure of movable and well-trained and well-resourced Defence Force cannot immovable property determined by the courts as be overemphasised. This will go a long way in ensuring proceeds and instruments of crime. To date, the a prompt and decisive response to all emerging security office has received 30 Court Orders for seizure of threats. properties compared to 21 Court Orders in 2019/20. Mr Mr Chairperson, recent reports of terrorist activities in Chairperson, currently the total value of the properties the Northern Mozambique, and the political instabilities under the management of the Receiver is One Hundred elsewhere across the African continent, are an indication and Eighty-Five Million, Three Hundred and Forty that peace and security remain unpredictable for an Thousand, Seven Hundred and Eighty-Two Pula and increasing number of African countries. In addition, Eighty-Eight Thebe (P185, 340, 782.88). the world is facing significant changes in the field MILITARY VETERANS AFFAIRS of science and technology development, which is providing a perfect breeding environment for challenges My ministry continues to work on strengthening the such as cybercrime, terrorism, illicit drug trafficking, Military Veterans Affairs Unit, to make it effective in human trafficking, and illicit importation of nuclear helping military veterans to cope with post-military life. technology, among others. Therefore, the diversity of In this regard, my ministry is working with relevant these challenges only confirms the urgency to continue stakeholders, which include the Botswana Defence to build the necessary infrastructure, and acquire the necessary equipment to effectively respond to such Force (BDF), ex-military personnel and the veteran’s eventualities affecting the nation. association, to interrogate the much-anticipated Military Veterans Bill. It remains my intention to table the Bill Mr Chairperson, the advent of COVID-19 pandemic before this Honourable House during the July 2021 ushered in, additional challenges and responsibilities sitting for consideration. for the Defence Force. The challenges presented by the pandemic were actually an opportunity for self- LEGAL AID BOTSWANA evaluation in that, the Defence Force had to redefine Since the establishment of the Legal Aid Botswana in and redirect its focus and modus operandi towards a 2013 as a parastatal under the ministry, there has been different kind of non-traditional threat. The Botswana a steady and consistent provision of legal advice, legal Defence Force (BDF) has been able to successfully representation and public legal education to the indigent provide assistance and support to civil authorities in the population. form of coordinating COVID-19 operations, enforcing adherence to the available health protocols, controlling Cases registered at Legal Aid Botswana take a minimum of vehicles and public movements, provision of period of one month up to 36 months to be disposed. quarantine and isolation facilities, as well as the Up to 52 per cent of the cases received are in respect provision of medical personnel, among others. of Family Law. Legal Aid Botswana therefore, has committed to be a key player in community engagement BOTSWANA POLICE SERVICE in order to empower such communities with adequate legal information and access to legal aid services to Mr Chairperson, the crime prevention strategy employed promote respect for rule of law. by the Botswana Police Service (BPS) is premised on national public safety priorities and emerging security BOTSWANA DEFENCE FORCE requirements such as the recent national call for enforcement of COVID-19 regulations. Mr Chairperson, the commitment to keep the people alive and free is the most important social service Mr Chairperson, I am happy to report that the BPS that any Government is content to do for its citizens. is already implementing measures to address these

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emerging trends of Gender-Based Violence (GBV) • Provide guidance for the design and implementation and related offences. A toll free number was created to of Prisoner Rehabilitation Programmes. increase police contact and improve police response to GBV. A Child Friendly Office customised for handling • Promote targeted Programmes and activities that stress reactions experienced by children is being are appropriate for prisoner development, including piloted at Broadhurst Police Station. The BPS will be youth and women. introducing a Gender and Child Protection Unit during COVID-19 in Prison Facilities the 2021/2022 financial year. These efforts are meant to complement existing crime prevention and detection. Mr Chairperson, the prison service like the rest of the nation has been hit by the afflictive effects of COVID-19. Mr Chairperson, Government has developed regulations As a ministry, we have adopted and implemented risk to help address safety concerns brought about by assessment and mitigation measures aimed at helping the COVID-19 pandemic. The enforcement of these to prevent the spread of the pandemic in prisons. regulations by our internal security agencies has These include establishment of three quarantines in established that the level of compliance is concerning. Francistown, Lobatse and Kanye, the screening of The relaxation of certain restrictions has led to an officers and visitors, and in some cases, the temporary increase in violations, notably, those against liquor suspension of visitations to prisons and closure of conditions, public gatherings, wearing of masks in workshops. public areas and violation of curfew hours. Mr Chairperson, as at 15th March 2021, the Prison Mr Chairperson, road safety is another national priority Service had recorded a total of 1568 COVID-19 cases. where the BPS is a key stakeholder. The realisation of It is however pleasing that, out of this number, 1430 the desired safety deliverables under this area is pursued inmates have recovered while 135 remain active and through law enforcement and public education. During regrettably, three deaths were recorded. Regarding the year 2020, such efforts contributed to 28.9 per cent Prison Officers, a total of 162 COVID-19 cases were reduction in fatal casualties; from 497 deaths in 2019 to recorded; out of which 138 have recovered, while 22 325 in 2020. remain active and two deaths recorded. May their souls rest in eternal peace. PRISONS AND REHABILITATION RECURRENT BUDGET Mr Chairperson, the Botswana Prison Service is mandated with safe custodial care of prisoners and Mr Chairperson, for the 2021/22 financial year, I request providing them with rehabilitation and reintegration an amount of Eight Billion, Three Hundred and Ninety programmes. Million, Four Hundred and Fifteen Thousand, Four Hundred and Eighty Pula (P8,390,415,480) for the Mr Chairperson, currently, there are 22 prisons and a Recurrent Budget. This is an increase of Two Hundred Centre for Illegal Immigrants (FCII) with an authorised and Forty-Six Million, Four Hundred and Forty-Three carrying capacity of 4337. As of 15th March 2021, the Thousand, Eight Hundred and Sixty Pula (P246, number of prisoners held in prison facilities was 3835, 443,860) or 3 per cent of the 2020/2021 financial year’s representing a 4.7 per cent decrease from 4026 in the Authorised Expenditure. same period last year. The funds requested for the 2021/22 financial year will Prison Security be shared across the ministry departments as follows:

Zero escape during the year; for the period of 1st April 2501 - MINISTRY HEADQUARTERS - One 2020 to 12th January 2021, 15 escaped. All the 15 Hundred and Ninety-Seven Million, Two Hundred and escapees have been re-captured. Forty-Nine Thousand, Three Hundred and Sixty Pula (P197,249,360) to cover its operational activities. The Rehabilitation of Prisoners provision of Ministry Headquarters will also finance Mr Chairperson, my ministry is working towards planned activities for the Legal Aid Botswana, at finalisation of a National Offender Rehabilitation Policy. Forty-Five Million, Seven Hundred and Twenty-Three The overall objectives of the policy are among others to; Thousand and Thirty Pula (P45,723,030).

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2502 - BOTSWANA DEFENCE FORCE - Four and Eighty-Three Million, Four Hundred and Sixty- Billion, Six Hundred and Eight-Two Million, Seven Four Thousand, Nine Hundred and Eighty-Five Pula Hundred and Eighty-Eight Thousand, Five Hundred (P783,464,985) or 73.3 per cent of this budget, will cater and Forty Pula (P4,682,788,540) for the BDF under the for the on-going contractual obligations on procurement Recurrent Budget for the financial year 2021/2022. This of communications and defence equipment dating back estimate is an increase of Forty Million, Nine Hundred to 2015, and is anticipated to end during financial year and Six Thousand, One Hundred and Sixty Pula 2021/22. (P40,906,160) as compared to the 2020/21 Authorised One Hundred and Fifty-Seven Million, Seven Expenditure. The amount will cater for personnel Hundred and Thirty-Five Thousand, and Fifteen Pula emoluments and other operational expenses. (P157,735,015) which is 14.8 per cent, will be spent on 2503 - BOTSWANA POLICE SERVICES - Two the refurbishment of air assets and the related ground Billion, Eight Hundred and Seventy-Three Million, Four support equipment. One Hundred and Twenty-Six Hundred and Forty-Seven Thousand, Two Hundred Million, Eight Hundred Thousand Pula (P126,800,000) and Sixty Pula (P2,873,447,260). This represents an will be spent on the completion of the on-going increase of 7 per cent from the 2020/2021 Authorised construction of equipment storage facilities, and Expenditure. maintenance of accommodation and office facilities at various locations across the country. 2505 - BOTSWANA PRISON SERVICES - Six Hundred and Thirty-Six Million, Nine Hundred and 2504 - BOTSWANA POLICE SERVICE Thirty Thousand, Three Hundred and Twenty Pula I am happy to report that in spite of implementation (P636,930,320) for the Department of Prisons and challenges, 65 per cent of the budget allocated to the Rehabilitation. This represents an increase of 15 per cent of the 2020/2021 Authorised Expenditure. Botswana Police Service was utilised on development projects. Mr Chairperson, I request an amount of Four Mr Chairperson, out of the amount requested, Four Hundred and Eleven Million, Nine Hundred Thousand Hundred and Thirteen Million, and Eighty-Four Pula (P411,900,000) to cater for police facilities, fleet Thousand, Six Hundred and Fifty Pula (P413,084,650) expansion and telecommunications during the 2021/22 has been allocated to Personal Emoluments while the financial year. The allocation will be shared as follows: remainder of the budget will cover Other Charges and Add Backs. (a) Police Facilities - Two Hundred and Eight Million, DEVELOPMENT BUDGET Nine Hundred Thousand Pula (P208,900,000) and others. Mr Chairperson, for the Development Budget for the 2021/2022 financial year, my ministry requests One 2505 - PRISONS AND REHABILITATION Billion, Six Hundred and Forty-Five Million, Four In our attempt to enhance and improve the Prison Hundred and Five Thousand, Five Hundred and Eighty- Service, I request this Honorable House to approve a Seven Pula (P1,645,405,587). The amount requested total of One Hundred and Fifty-Five Million, Five will be allocated as follows;- Hundred and Five Thousand, Five Hundred and Eighty- 2501 - MINISTRY HEADQUARTERS Seven Pula (P155,505,587) for the 2021/2022 financial year. Mr Chairperson, under Ministry Headquarters, Ten Million (P10,000,000) is requested to fund the ongoing CONCLUSION projects at Dukwi Refugee Camp and the automation of Mr Chairperson, I beg to move that the sum of Eight Private Security Services. Billion, Three Hundred and Ninety Million, Four 2502 - BOTSWANA DEFENCE FORCE Hundred and Fifteen Thousand, Four Hundred and Eighty Pula (P8,390,415,480) under Recurrent Budget Mr Chairperson, I request an amount of One Billion for Organisation 2500, be approved and stand part of and Sixty-Eight Million Pula (P1,068,000,000) for Schedule of the Appropriation (2021/2022) Bill, 2021 the Botswana Defence Force for the 2021/22 financial (No. 1 of 2021); and the sum of P1, 645, 405, 587 for year. The bulk of this amount being, Seven Hundred the organisation’s Development Budget be approved

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and stand part of the estimates of the financial year Offenders Registry. Ke a go galaletsa gore o bo tsere 2021/2022. I move accordingly. I thank you Mr dikgato tsa mofuta oo, mme ke supe sengwenyana se Chairperson. ke kileng ka se go baya pele Tona, ke re o se ele tlhoko fa o ntse o baakanya molao o. O tlaa intshwarela gore MINISTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND ke bo ke riana, mme e rile fa re ntse re tšhotlhatšhotlha HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (MR KGAFELA): Ke kgang e, ke bo ke bona fa re sena go nna re dira this Sex a leboga Modulasetilo. Ke tlhomamisetse Tona gore ke Registry Bill, re bo re fitlhela mo go yone go na le ditilo mo utlwile e bile ke mo eme nokeng ka kopo e a lereng tsa batho ba o kareng go a ketefala gore ba ka supiwa e le pele Ntlo e e tlotlegang e. Gape ke mo rurifaletse gore dilalome. Ke ne ka bua ka yone fa re le mo Palamenteng ke tlaa mo ema nokeng, e bile go botlhokwa gore nna ke re, mo ntlong e ya Sex Registry Bill, ke bona le le ene re tshwaragane mo tirong ya go tlhomamisa gore tsentse batho ba ba ka bong ba bonwe molato ka incest diofisi tsa sepodise di nna teng go anama le lefatshe ka (thobalano magare ga batho ba sikana). Jaanong, ke bo bophara. Ke tsaya gore mo nakong e khutshwane o ka bo ke re kana Molaomotheo o a re tlama gore fa re fetisa a tsamaya a ya go bula police station nngwe, mme le tse melao, e bo e le melao e e kgonang gore e diragadiwe, e leng gore tota fela batlotlegi ba etle ba buebue ka tsone e e executable. Ke bo ke botsa gore, ka an incestuous ba supa gore o kare di saletse kwa morago, ke rotloetse relationship ke ya batho ba babedi ba dumalane, ke ofe Tona gore re tshwaraganye diatla re tlhodumele se se mo go bone yo o yang kwadisiwa mo Sex Offenders bakang gore dikago di diege. Go etle go diragale gantsi Register; a ba ya go kwadisiwa e le dilalome botlhe, gore re supe ba ba agang, mme tota boammaaruri fa o kgotsa go kwadisiwa a le mongwe? Fa ke tlhaloganya ba atumela o botsa gore matsapa di a tsaya kae, ba go molao o wa Sex Offenders Registry, o ne o raya gore supegetsa gore le ba ba hirilweng ke Puso; consultants go kwadisiwa motho a le mongwe yo o neng a amega jalojalo le bone ba na le seabe go ba bakeleng gore ba mo tirong e, mme e ne e le selalome, yo mongwe e le diege go aga police stations tse. motswasetlhabelo. That is why o fitlhela gore in a rape Ke eletsa go bua ka facilities tsa sepodise segolo jang case, motswasetlhabelo ga a ka ke a kwadisiwa, mme tsa kwa Kgatleng, fa re ntse re tsamaya mo Tona, re selalome sone se a kwadisiwa. It becomes difficult, ga utlwile go le gantsi ngongora ya gore space se a tlhaela. ke itse gore how are we going to execute e ya incest e, fa Bana ba gago ba pitlagane, bontsi jwa bone ba nna mo e le gore there are two people involved and one or both makgotleng ba tlhakanetse diofisi le makgotla, mme ba must go on to the registry. le bantsi mo teng. O fitlhela gantsi go na le an officer, Ke ne ka utlwa gape o tlhalosa gore, o eletsa go go bo go nna le Special Constables ba le bantsi, ba baakanya Penal Code. Ke a go galaletsa go bo o e tshwara dipalo tsa bo seven kana 11, mme ofisi yone nonotsha gore e arabele diemo tsa segompieno tse di e le nngwe. Seo o se tlhodumele o se latlhele bofofu tsalwang ke gore re bo re eme ka dinao re tsaya tsia Tona, segolo jang mo pakeng ya COVID-19 e e batlang melawana ya kgokgontsho ya bong, gore e tshwanetse gore re katogane. Re tlhomamise gore re leka to provide ya gagamalediwa. Ke go rotloetse Tona gore, nako e barongwa ba rona ba sepodise ka mafelo a ba berekelang gorogile ya gore melawana e ya kgokgontsho ya bong, mo go one. fa ke e lebile mo Penal Code ke e fitlhela e wela ka E nngwe ngongora e re neng re e utlwa e tswa ka bone fa tlase ga melawana ya bo offences against morality. thata, ke ya tiriso ya dikoloi. Ba le bantsi ba a supa gore Ke gore e bapisitswe le melawana e e tshwanang le mo dikgaolong tsa bone ba a tlhaela, o fitlhela ba tshotse ya prostitution jalojalo which offends our civil values. koloi e le nngwe mme ba akaretsa metse le metsana e Nako e gorogile ya gore o e fuduse, o e ise kwa ntlong e le mentsi ka nako e le nngwe. Gongwe e re fa o ntse o mo go yone go ntseng melawana e gotweng ke offences itshekatsheka Tona, o sekaseke ntlha e ya gore a mme o against the person. Ke gore o e tseye o e bapise le ka se ka wa ba okeletsa didirisiwa gore le bone ba tle ba murder, manslaughter jalojalo. Modulasetilo, I do not kgone go dira tiro e, e re e tlhokang. think the offence of rape can anymore be described as an offence against morality. Fa e le gore re tlhwaafetse Ke utlwile kwa tshimologong o tlhalosa ka boripana re batla go phimola le go ruta setšhaba gore molato gore o thubile lebelo la go baakanya se gotweng kgatlhanong le motho which is of a sexual nature, re legislative and policy development reform. O bo o ama o tsaya serious, then it cannot be based on our moral melawana e le mmalwanyana e tota nngwe ya yone o values, e tshwanetse go bo e le molato o o against the neng o ipelafatsa ka yone, segolo jang molao wa Sex person, o e fuduse o e ise koo re tle re simolole go e tsaya

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tsia, re itse gore le dikatlholo tsa teng di tsamaelana le kgaolong e ke tswang kwa go yone gore, rona re tshaba gore it is an offence against the person. to report ka gore re felela re ntsheditswe kwa ntle. Ke re dilo tse di salwe morago thata, mme fela ke re ke a go Ke go lebogele maiteko a gago fa o tlhalosa gore o ya kgotlhatsa Tona ka kgang e ya go emela dikgangkgang go baakanya the sentencing policy jaaka ke go utlwa o tsa Gender-Based Violence ka dinao gore re tlhomamise re o ya go e baakanya, go sekaseka gore are there no gore re a di phimola. alternatives to imprisonment. Le fa o ntse o thubile lebelo o dira jalo, Tona o nne kelotlhoko gore kana Ke galaletsa dikgato tse o di tsereng tsa go gagamatsa makgotlatshekelo jealously guard their independence. melao, mme fela ke re kana tota le fa re ka tswa re re Jaanong, dilo tse di tshwanang le bo sentencing tota ke re gagamatsa melao, boammaaruri ba go tlhomamisa dilo tse di dirwang ke judicial officers, a nnenne le ene gore setšhaba ke se se nnang ka thokgamo, re ka bo a reeditse kgang exercising his or her independence. Ba diragatsa fela fa re simolola kwa thutong. Ke re gongwe ka nna ba e tsaya gore tota fela we are encroaching into tota fela le ene Tona Molao o tshwanetse dikgang tse a their independence fa re nna re ba ntshetsa mokwalo o simolola go rotloetsa gore di rutiwe kwa dikoleng. Ke o ba laelang gore ba ye go atlhola ka tsela e e ntseng re ka mafoko a makhutshwane a a kalo, ke a go leboga jang. Ke a itse fela sentle gore le mo Penal Code ya Modulasetilo. rona go tletsetletse ka mo go laelwang ka teng gore go atlholwe ka teng, mme fela ke re judicial independence MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Segokgo followed frown upon this sir, ba eletsa gore ba ka bo ba tlogelwa by Ambassador Kapinga. e nne bone ba itlelang ka sentences tse ba bonang di le MINISTER OF TRANSPORT AND appropriate. That is why o fitlhela gantsi dikatlholo tse e COMMUNICATIONS (MR SEGOKGO): Ke a leng minimum sentence di sa kgatlhe makgotlatshekelo, leboga Modulasetilo. Ke lebogele nako e o mphileng ba batla gore ba nne totally independent. E re fa re dira yone e le fa e le khutshwanyane mme ke tlaa se ke ke tiro eo Tona, o bo o ntse o le kelotlhoko gore seo they e dirise yotlhe. Modulasetilo, ke eletsa go simolola fela might find it quite offending. kwa tshimologong ke bue gore ke eme nokeng Tona mo O ne wa buabua gape le ka private security companies, kopong ya gagwe ya gore a fiwe madi, a a kopelang gore ke re hei! e latlhele bofofu, batho ba a ngongorega segolo a a dirisetse ditiro tsa lephata la gagwe le ditlhabololo jang babereki ba dikompone tse. Gore ga di ba duele, ga tse a neng a supa gore o eletsa gore a tle a di dire. ke itse gore matsapa di a tsaya kae, gongwe le gongwe fela fa o fetang ba a ngongorega ga ba duelwe sentle. E Sa ntlha ke tlaa ama dintlha tse a neng a bua ka tsone latlhele bofofu ga re itse gore tsapa e a tsaya kae, mme kwa tshimologong, ke eletsa go mo akgola mo go tsone. fela we cannot ignore ngongora eo, e ntsi gore officers O ne a bua ka ditsamaiso, policies, a bua ka melao e a ba ba berekang dikompone tse ga ba duelwe. Kana go kgonneng go e diragatsa le e e a lebileng gore o tlaabo na le molao wa Employment Act o o papametseng gore, a e tlisa fa pele ga Palamente gore le yone e tle e kgone fa o sa duele motho kgotsa o o roba, you expose yourself e fetisiwe ke Palamente. Ke mo leboga thata bogolo to a criminal sanction. Gongwe dilo tse re nne re rute jang ka molao o a neng a kgona gore o fetisiwe mo batho ka tsone, ba itse ditshwanelo tsa bone gore there Palamenteng wa Sexual Offenders Registry Bill. is also a criminal sanction to it. Ke batla ke mo raya ke re, go na le molao o a o umakileng Fa ke tla bokhutlong, ke bue ka Gender-Based Violence wa Legal Practitioners Bill, o e leng gore le nna ke o (GBV). Tona, bana mo dikgaolong mo ba ngongorega solofetse gore tota o tle o fete. Ke bua jaana ke batla go gore fa ba loma mapodise tsebe ka an instance of Gender dira kopo thata mo go Tona gore molao o jaaka o ntse Based Violence, mapodise jaanong ba felela ba re, “rona o sekasekiwa bogolo jang ke babueledi, ngongorego re utlwile ka mokete le mokete”, go raya gore jaanong gongwe e ke nang nayo e ke bonang gore e tlhoka gore sephiri se na neng ba ithaya ba re ba bega ka sone se molao o o thuse go e araba, ke ya gore babueledi kana ntshetswa kwa ntle. Jaanong ba re tota fela go bo go setšhaba se ya kwa go bone, ba ba lebile e le bone ba ba dira gore mo neighbourhood go bo go sa tlhole go nna ka ba gololang mo diemong tse di bokete, tse di marara monate, mokgokgontshi a itse gore they were reported tsa semolao. Fa e le gore e nna bone gape jaanong ba e ke neighbour. Ke ne ke re selo se gongwe le rute bana ba reng fa go ilwe kwa go bone, ba bo ba simolola jaanong lona gore ka tswee-tswee ba leke go tshwara reports tsa ba nna botlhabetsi mo go bone ba ba tlileng go ikuela mofuta oo ka sephiri. Kgang e ke ne ka e utlwalela kwa kwa go bone, ke seemo se se ngomolang pelo thata.

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Ke buisiwa se ke gore mo ofising ya me ya boPalamente, tshogile ka seemo sa COVID gore go tlaa tsamaya jang ke setse ke nnile fa fatshe le bangwe ba le bantsi ba tla le ba bangwe ba re eletsang gore ba fofele mo lefatsheng kwa go nna, ba bangwe ba ntshwara fela jalo ka lebaka la le. Nngwe ya matlhokego a matona Tona, a gore re gore kana ba latlhegelwa ke ditsha tsa bone, ba tseelwa kgone go ngoka difofane tsa go nna jaana, ke gore re bo ditsha, mme ke mang yo o ba tseelang ditsha; ba tseelwa re na le tsone ditsompelo tsa gore e re fa go ka nna le ditsha ke mmueledi. Mmueledi yo a di tsaya mme e le kotsi, re kgona go tsiboga ka bofefo mme e bile re na le gore o ne a ba emetse, e se dikgang tsa ditsha, gongwe a didirisiwa tsotlhe tse re ka thusang gore re falotse bao ne a ba emetse mo dikgannyeng fela tse e leng gore go ba ba ka bong e le batshidi e bile re ntse foo. Ke sone se ne go na le molato mongwe o ba neng ba kopa gore a ke se kopang se e bile ke kopa tshwaragano le wena ka ba thuse mo go one, o o tlaabong a lebagane le molato, gore go botlhokwa thata go tlhomamisa tshireletsego ya ba sena molato batho ba, mme ka fa a lopang dituelo ka our airspace gore re nne le capability e e nonofileng ya teng, o felela a ba tsentse mo dikolotong. Ke gore ba search and rescue, e e leng gore ke yone e e re thusang kolota ene, a bo a simolola a tsaya kgato jaanong ya gore gore re bo re ka ngoka bao ba ke buang ka bone ke re ke a ikopanye le ba e leng gore ke ba ba rekisang dithoto, ba difofane tse dikgolwane. mme go simolola go gapiwa tsone ditsha tsa ba ba neng ba tlile go kopa thuso. Ke raya gore selo se ke selo se Rraetsho, ke batla ke wela gongwe ke leba kwa kgaolong se ngomolang pelo thata, se ke kopang gore molao o o ya Tlokweng ke re, re na le police station, mme e thuse gore o se bepe ka gore ga se a nna sentle. leng teng jaana, tota le yone fela jaaka Tona Mmusi a ne a bua, nna ke ne ke re lebaleba ka gore o kare ba Se sengwe Tona legale ntle ke gatele pele ke bue gore, pitlagane. Kwa ntleng fela ga gore ba pitlagane, ke na ke batla ke leboge makalana a gago a sesole le sepodise, le mogopolo o ke akanyang gore gongwe tota gone go mo tshwaraganong e re nang nayo le bone ka tse ba re batla re ntse re tlhoma dingwe kana ke re porta camps thusang ka tsone bogolo jang mo Lephateng la me la kana ke eng. Gore re kgone go atumetsa bodiredi jo jwa Ditsela le Ditlhaeletsanyo. Ke ka nankola fela gore ba sepodise mo mafelong kana dikgaolo dingwe tse e leng re thusa jaaka o setse o kaile mo dikgannyeng tsa go gore jaanong di bonagala di katogile fa police station ipabalela mo tseleng le go hema dikotsi jalo. Ke tse ke e leng teng. E bile gongwe e ka nna tsela ya go araba di ba akgolelang. Mo seemong se re neng re le mo go lone letlhokego la dikoloi jaaka Tona Mmusi le ene a ne sone e bile re ntse re le mo go sone sa COVID, ba nnile a ntse a le nankola. Gongwe fa re ka nna le gore re nne thuso thata mo go rona to escort trucks tse di neng di le bodiredi jo bo lekaneng fela bo se kae, gore bo thuse tlhoka go thusiwa ka escort mo lefatsheng la rona. Kana mo go tse di tlhokang go tsibogelwa gaufi mo mafelong makalana a a lebagane le dilo tse pedi, a lebagane le ao. Ke lebile mafelo a ka tshwana bo Sefoke, gompieno molao le thitibalo mo lefatsheng le tshireletso ya lone re setse re aga kwa gotweng ke gone kwa Letlapeng, lefatshe la rona, go tlhomamisa gore ga re tlhaselwe jalo go nna kgakala go ya go goroga kwa police station. A ke baba. mantsi, ke ne ke ka tsamaya ke a balolola. Nngwe ya dilo tse ke batlang gore gape tota ke di ame Se sengwe rraetsho, ke ne ke kopa gore re na le e bile ke ba akgole thata, re tshwaragane le bone mo molelwane kana le Aferika Borwa, mme go na le bothata gotweng ke search and rescue. Go thusa fa go tlhagile jwa fence yone eo, e e tlhokang go baakanngwa. diemo tsa dikotsi tse di kgolo thata; a di ka bo di ama terena, difofane jalo, mme ke gone fa ke eletsang gore Ke kopa gore selo se se lebelelwe. E babalela balemi- ke dire kopo e bile gongwe ke dire le tsiboso nngwe e e barui ba Tlokweng, bogolo jang ba ba kwa kgaolong leng gore ke dumela gore e botlhokwa. Kopo ya me ke eo gatwe Mabutswe ka gore dikgomo tsa bone di gore ke itumeletse go bona madi a o neng o bua ka one o felela di tsene ka fa Aferika Borwa. Gore ba di bone, re le tlaabo le lebagane le go tsweledisa go baakanya, go ke bothata ka gore di ya go gorosiwa kwa go lefelong shafatsa difofane kwa sesoleng. Le ba sepodise le bone le bidiwa gotwe kwa Lichtenburg. E bile ba tshwanetse ba na le difofane, ke ba leboga thata ka tsone. Rraetsho, go tsamaya sekgele se se telele ba feta ba duela madi di botlhokwa mo go rona. Di botlhokwa thata. Ga re reye a a seng kana ka sepe go golola leruo le la bone. Ke gore re di dirisetsa gore rona re bo re pega batho jalo sone o utlwang ke kopa jalo rraetsho gore kopo ya me kana sepe se se kalo mo go tsone, mme mafatshefatshe ke gore a terata e e mo molelwaneng e e disiwe thata, a re lebile. Rona re leka go ngoka airline tse ditona, bo e baakanngwe, balemi-barui ba tle ba kgone gore ba Qatar jaaka re ne ra kgona go dira jalo mme re santse re etlege mo go rueng ga bone.

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Ke eletsa gore ke wele foo Modulasetilo. Ke wela fela Mr Chairperson, gape re gakolotse Minister gore jalo ka go bua gore ke eme Tona nokeng. Ke a itse gore re dumela gore sesole sa rona se tshwanetse gore gangwe le gape ba tsere kgang e ya gore re se ka ra isa se nne se ka Sekgoa gotweng lean, efficient and cost madi kwa go rekeng air assets e le sengwe se se tlaa effective. Re se ka ra ipolelela gore re le lefatshe le le dirisang gongwe fa re sa a tlhokeng thata teng. Ke ne ke kana ka Botswana, mme e bile re le mo dikgwetlhong gakolola fela gore ba se ka ba lebala se ke neng ke bua tsa itsholelo tse re di lebileng, re bo re re gongwe re ka sone sa capability ya search and rescue. Ke a leboga. ka tshwana le mafatshe a mangwe ra aga sesole se se tonatona se se nang le dibetsa tse dintsintsi jalojalo. MR KAPINGA (OKAVANGO): Thank you Mr Itsholelo ya rona ga e kgone. Approach ya rona ke gore Chairperson. Ke simolole Mr Chairperson by re age sesole se se lean, efficient and cost effective. acknowledging gore re iphile nako e ntsi maabane le gompieno re buisana le Tona Mmusi mabapi le ministry Ke dumela gore jaaka Minister a kgonne go fokotsa wa gagwe. budget e jaana, gongwe re mo tseleng eo ya go ya go aga sone sesole se, se se sa re jeleng madi mo go feteletseng. Fa ke simolola fela ke re lephata le la ga Rre Mmusi le le tona thata, le bokete. Re mmoleletse gore ka fa Mr Chairperson, e rile re ntse re tshwere dipuisanyo tebong ya rona re bona le le letona thata. Jaanong re le Tona, ra mo gakolola gore rotlhe re le baeteledipele ne re ka eletsa gore ba ba busang ba sekaseke go mo ba lefatshe leno, re tshwanetse go tlhomamisa gore sepolotiki sa kgaoganyo (partisan politics) se se ka fokoletsa morwalo ka gore fa tiro e nna bokete thata, sa bo sa tsena mo sesoleng, sepodiseng le badisa boikarabelo bo nna bokete thata ka bokete jo bo kalo, magolegwa ba rona. We referred to the adage that kgantele o le moeteledipele ga o kgone go supegetsa ba describes democracy e e reng, “Government for the o ba eteletseng pele sentle gore tota wa re o batla ba ya people by the people of the people.” Re bo re bua gore kae. le tsone security agencies tse are for the people, they This point was raised during our discussion re bua ka are of the people and they should be led by the people. policing priorities, gore jaaka re le fa jaana tota fela Agencies tse … mapodise a gagwe o ba reile a re o eletsa ba dira eng MR REATILE: On a point of clarification. Thank tse e leng gore priorities mo ngwageng wa 2021/2022. you Honourable Chairperson. Thank you Honourable Kapinga. Honourable Kapinga, a mme o etse tlhoko O reile sesole sa gagwe a re tse e leng top priorities for gore Honourable Minister o santse a ka fokotsa our defence as a country ke eng? O ne a bua gore kgang (reduce) budget ya sesole mo budget e e leng gore we e ba santseng ba leka go tsenya matlho a bone thata mo are discussing a bo a tsamaya and overspend jaaka a go yone. Tsholofelo ya rona ke gore ngwaga o o tlang ga dirile ka budget ya 2019/2020 a ya to overspend ka gona lephata lepe lele ka fa tlase ga gagwe le a tlaa bong P743 million? A gone moo o a lemoga gore o ka tswa a sa le segela tsela le direction gore o batla le ya kae. Ke gompieno a re direla bosigo ka kobo? I thank you sir. yone tsholofelo ya rona Mr Chairperson. MR KAPINGA: Ee rra. Fa a ka dira jalo, go tlaabo go Sa boraro ke batla gore re beye on record gore re itirela ene botsotsi. Mme e bile re a tlhaloganya gore ka itumelela gore budget e ya sesole ya development e bo e 2019 kana go ne go rekiwa eng jaaka go ne go dirisiwa fokotsegile ka fa e fokotsegileng ka teng. Ga re bolo go madi a a kalokalo mo makalaneng a rona a security. bua gore madi a a dirisiwang mo sesoleng go reka dilo tse Rotlhe re a itse gore gone go diragala eng ka nako eo Mr gotweng ba a tle ba di reke tse, a mantsi thata. Jaanong Chairperson. Tsholofela ya rona ke gore Tona ka fa re fa re lebile mokwalo wa ga Honourable Minister fa, buisantseng le ene ka teng, ga a ka ke a supa boitshwaro go supafala gore budget ya sesole ya development e jo bo ntseng jalo ka gore re buisantse le ene ka boleele ka fokotsegile ka P458 million which is about 30 per cent. kgang e gore sesole se, sepodise se, badisa magolegwa It is a very significant reduction Mr Chairperson e re ba, ke ba rona rotlhe, ga se ba party e e busang. e lebogelang gore Minister a bo a kgonne go e dira. Tsholofelo ya rona ke gore jaanong madi ao a ya go Se se latelang Mr Chairperson ke botlhokwa jwa gore ba dirisiwa in priorities tse dingwe tse di thusang setšhaba itebaganye le seemo sa infrastructure mo makalaneng a. (social services to the people) education, health le tse They should attend to the infrastructure; buildings di a dingwe fela jalo. wa e bile di makgasa.

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Se sengwe ke failure to enforce the employment Mr Chairperson, ke tlaa sutela ba bangwe gore ba tle ba standards mo private security. E rile re bua le Minister bue. Fela se re batlang go se gatelela ke gore our security before a bo a fetisetsa boikarabelo kwa Ministry wa agencies need to be very professional and apolitical. Labour. Ga ke dumalane le approach e e ntseng jalo Ope fela a se ka a ba a ipona a batla go tsenya sepolotiki Mr Chairperson. As a regulator wa private security mo sesoleng, sepodiseng le mo badisamagolegweng industry, o tshwanetse to make sure gore that industry ba rona. Re itse fela gore, makalana a otlhe a a direla adheres to all its obligations, whether those obligations Motswana without discrimination, regardless of party arise from the Act that he administrates or from the affiliation gore a yo ke moUmbrella for Democratic Labour Act. O na le role e a ka e tshamekang gone foo. Change (UDC) kana ke moDomkrag kana ke eng. They are there to serve the nation without any discrimination. Mr Chairperson, se sengwe, I want to emphasise gore E bile ga se mapodise a phathi e e busang. Ke a leboga Minister a amogele gore sepodise se batla go neelwa Mr Chairperson. madi throughout the year a a ka ba kgontshang gore ba dire tiro ya bone ngwaga gore o ye go wela. Ga re batle MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL roadshow policing tse di tshwanang le bo Kgomokhumo, AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC tse di dirwang nako e e rileng for two, three weeks fela ADMINISTRATION (MR MORWAENG): Ke go kgatlha setšhaba gore mapodise ke a a tlile kwa leboge Modulasetilo, Leader of the House yo o fano, kgaolong ya rona go tswa foo go a nyelela. Re batla Moeteledipele wa Baganetsi, Rre Saleshando le lona gore Stock Theft Units or the Stock Theft Branches di bakaulengwe. Santlha ke leboge Honourable Mmusi ka sekasekwe gore ba kgone go dira tiro ya bone ngwaga go tla ka kopo ya mofuta o. Sabobedi, ke bo ke supa otlhe. gore ke e ema nokeng yone kopo ya gagwe. Saboraro, ke tshwanetse ke leboge ba itshireletso ba rona, e Mapodise ba tlhoka dikoloi. Selo se se botlhokwatlhokwa bong ba sesole, sepodise le ba dikgolegelo ka tiro e e mo tirong ya sepodise ke gore e re motho a ikuela gore manontlhotlho thata e ba e dirang mo e leng gore ga motho o a mpolaya ka kwano, mapodise ba kgone to go belaetse, ba e dira ka fa tlase ga ga Rre Mmusi. respond as quickly as possible gore ba ye to attend Jaaka Batswana botlhe ba itse le rona rotlhe ba re leng mo Ntlong e re itse, ba e dira ba le apolitical and report ya gagwe. Jaanong fa ba sena dikoloi, selo seo professional, ba e direla Batswana botlhe, ba itse gore se diga seriti sa sepodise go feta ka gore fao tla after six ba foo ba direla setšhaba. or eight hours, o re o ya to attend, motho ga a sa tlhola jaanong a le mo moweng wa go ka tlhola a lebogela Re na le ditso re le lefatshe la Botswana, bodiredi jwa maphata one a, ba ba dirang mo lephateng le ka fa tlase thuso ya gago le fa o ka mo thusa ka fa o ka reng o mo ga ga Rre Mmusi, e le batho ba ba dirang tiro ya bone thusa ka teng. ka bokgabane jo bogolo le ka manontlhotlho. Mapodise Re lebogela gape gore during the State of Emergency, a rona ba ile ba supa, bogolo jang mo malatsing ano go kile ga nna le temptation-nyana ya gore security a State of Emergency (SoE) gore ga se batho ba ba agencies tse tsa rona ba dirise dikgoka mo bathong ba kgokgontshang, ke batho ba ba dirang tiro ka botlalo. Ba na le ditso tsa gore ba professional mapodise, masole le ba neng ba ba tlhokometse. Ke dumela gore kgalemo ya badisamagolegwa kwa dikgolegelong tsa rona. Ke selo rona e ne ya utlwala. We want security agencies ba ba se re se ba akgolelang. E bile badiredi ba maphata a, ba tlotlang the fundamental rights tsa batho ba rona. Ga re itshupile mo malatsing a a sa tswang go feta a re leng batle mo go gatakiwang ditshwanelo tsa batho gotwe go mo segajajeng sa COVID-19, ba ntse ba eteletse pele gagamadiwa molao Mr Chairperson. ka go thusa, go direla lefatshe le ka botswapelo jo bo Ya bofelo ke yone ya the sentences, gore fa o oketsa kalokalo. sentence mme o sa kgone go sekisa palo e e rileng, e Ke sone se ke dumalanang le gore maphata a a ka fa e tlaa bonwang molato mo court, the law cannot be a tlase ga ga Rre Mmusi, ba tshwanetse go neelwa madi. deterrent. Le fa o ka oketsa wa atlholela motho 50 years, Tota e bile madi a jaaka bakaulengwe ba ntse ba bua, fa e le gore o ya go tshwara motho a le mongwefela a mannye ka gore ba na le dikgwetlho dingwe tse di mo bathong ba le 100 ba ba dirileng molato, it does farologanyeng. Ba na le dikgwetlho tse di tshwanang not become a deterrent. E nna a deterrent where more le tsa boroko, didirisiwa jaaka dikoloi tsa sepodise people are arrested, prosecuted and sent to jail. Ke gone le dikago tse di farologanyeng. Ka bokhutshwane, fa molao o nnang a deterrent teng gone foo. sepodise, sesole le badisamagolegwa ba rona, ba ka

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dira botoka fa itsholelo e ne e letla. Kana jaaka ke bua e bone ke batho ba discipline ya bone mo lefatsheng e bile o kare rotlhe re a dumalana, gore mapodise a bone leng kwa godimo thata. Ke batho ba ba tlhokegang dikoloi, ba tlhoka gore madi ba a neelwe a le mantsi, thata, re tshwanetse re ba eme nokeng. gore masole a rona a dire tiro ka botlalo fela jalo. Ka tsela e, ke sone se ke reng ke ema nokeng kopo ya ga Ntlha ya bofelo e ke neng ke re ke bue ka yone ke Rre Mmusi. E bile ke bo ke leboga badiredi ba maphata ya gore, re le setšhaba, re tshwanetse re lemoge gore a rona a itshireletso ka fa ba dirang ka bojotlhe ka teng, welfare ya bone Rre Mmusi, fa madi a ne a le teng, o a ba dira tiro e ntle e ba rotlhe re itseng. neetswe a le kalo, mathata ke COVID le gore madi ga a yo. Ke dumalana le gore welfare ya bone botlhe, re Bagaetsho, kana sepodise le sesole sa rona, le maphata a tshwanetse re e sale morago, re bone gore go ntse jang, a amegang a security, that is why re na le stability se se seemo sa bone re bone gore ba le mo teng mo tirong le kana mo lefatsheng. Stability, safety, peace and security ba se kwa tirong, welfare ya bone e ntse jang. Ke batho fa di le teng mo lefatsheng, di dira gore le babeeletsi ba ba ba ikabileng gore ba kgone go direla lefatshe la rona. kgone gore ba beeletse, ba itse gore go na le stability Tiro ya bone ga se e e motlhofo e le tiro ya go amogela mo lefatsheng, safety, peace and security. Makalana a fela, ke tiro e e tlang le go baya matshelo a bone mo otlhe a ke buang ka one, ba setse ba supile gore ba a diphatseng. Ka tsela e, ke sone se ke dumelang gore re leka mabapi le go bona gore go na le safety, peace le tshwanetse re ele tlhoko gore fa go kgonega, re nne re security. baakanye their working conditions.

Re a itse gore go na le dintlha tse dingwe tse di amanang Ntlha e nngwe e ke ka buang ka yone ke ya gore, bogolo le gore peace e nne teng le stability. Fa e le gore jang badisamagolegwa, re tshwanetse re ba tokafaletse maphata a ga a dire sentle, go ka nna le bothata. Ka fa dithuto tsa bone gore ba mekamekane le bone ba ba ba ba ntseng ba dira tiro sentle ka teng, ka manontlhotlho, thusang kwa dikgolegelong. Gore magolegwa ba le bone ke dingwe tsa dilo tse di dirang gore re lemoge gore go fa ba tswa, ba bo ba tla ba filwe dithuto tse di rileng, tse critical gore ba bo ba dira ka botswapelo e bile ba filwe di ka tokafatsang matshelo a bone. Re fetole syllabus ya ditsompelo tse di maleba gore ba tle ba kgone gore re bone Rre Mmusi kante re e ele tlhoko, re bone gore a nne le itsholelo e e itekanetseng mo lefatsheng la rona. syllabus ya bone e ka ba kgontsha gore ba itshetse. Batho ba ka se ke ba beeletse mo lefatsheng la rona fa e le gore ga go na molao, molao ga o sirelediwe le fa e Ntlha e nngwe e ke neng ke re ke fete ka yone Rre le gore batho ga ba a sireletsega. Ke sone se ke reng ba Mmusi ke gore, fa ke lebile paragraph 56 le 57 ya neelwe madi gore...(Inaudible)… gago, o bua ka dikago tsa sepodise kwa le kwa le go di ntshafatsa mme ga ke bone o bua sepe ka kago ya Mr Chairperson, re tshwanetse go lemoga gore kana diofisi tsa mapodise kwa Molepolole. Kwa Molepolole batho ba ba dirang mo maphateng a, ba tsere maikano sir, ba mpoditse, ba tshela ba mpotsa gore naare police a a rileng, botlhe fela. Tota ke na le tumelo ya gore station ya bone e tla leng, ka gore e e teng gompieno, ba sireletsa lefatshe, Constitution, molao wa lefatshe jaaka o dumalane gore re tlaa ya Molepolole, re ya go e la rona gore dilo di tsamaye sentle, go nne le kagiso, bona, ga se e e lekanyeng e bile e siametse go ka thusa thitibalo le thokgamo e e rileng, gore re tle re kgone motse o o kana ka Molepolole, wa batho ba bantsi ka go tshela mo lefatsheng la rona. Se se teng fela ke go tsela e e kanakana. Jaanong ke kopa Rre Mmusi gore ka ba gakolola ka dinako tsotlhe gore a maikano one a ba tsweetswee, fa o araba, o bolelele Bakwena gore police itse gore tota ga ba a a tseela fela fa ba le mo tirong, ba station ya bone e tla leng, ka gore e bile Bakwena ba a tsere ba le mo tirong, ba tsena mo tirong le fa ba dule, Molepolole, ba ntshitse setsha sa14 hectares, re se fa ka gore ke batho ba ba botlhokwa. Kamoso fa go ka Puso gore e ye go aga police station e ntšha foo. nna le bothata mo lefatsheng, ke bangwe ba batho ba ba latelwang gotwe bagaetsho, gopolang maikano a lona a Ke kopa Rre Mmusi gore, fa o ka feta fela ka yone wa le kileng la a tsaya gore le sireletse lefatshe la lona. re tlhalosetsa gore police station ya Bakwena e tla leng, re ka leboga. Re motse o motona, re na le population e Fa o ka ela tlhoko, bontsi jwa batho ba ba mo makalaneng e kwa godimo. Police station e e teng gone jaana, ga e a, discipline ya bone e kwa godimo, they are trained. na le one matlo a boroko sentle kwa Molepolole, gore Boikanyego jwa bone bo kwa godimo mo lefatsheng. bodiredi jwa sepodise bo tle bo kgone bo dire ka tsela Ke raya gore fa bangwe ba itse bangwe ba fale le fale e e ka thusang Bakwena go isa crime kwa tlase. Fela ba e tle ba tswe mo tseleng, ga se ba ba kae, bontsi jwa ke kgotsofalela mapodise le Ramapodise ba o ba re

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neetseng kwa Molepolole, ba dira tiro ka botlalo. Kopo ditsompelo tse ba dirang tiro ya bone e e diphatsa, ba na ya me fela ke gore, a re ba neele ditlamelo le police le ditsompelo tse di ba siametseng. station tse di maleba Rre Mmusi, ba tle ba kgone go dira tiro go gaisa. Re tshwanetse go akgola masole a rona gore go tswa kwa sesole se simologileng teng, go fitlhelela fa re Ke a leboga, ka gore kwa Molepolole mo gompienong leng teng gompieno, ba ntse ba dira tiro ya bone ka ba sepodise ba lwa thata mabapi le dithuto tse re di manontlhotlho. Go na le ditlhaelo tse di kalokalo, mme tsweledisitseng mo motseng tsa go lwantsha Gender- ga ba ise ba nne le sesupo sepe sa go sokamela gope Based Violence (GBV). Rona, bone, Bogosi le baruti mo sepolotiking se o ka se akanyang. Sa bone ke go re ntse re tsweledisitse dithuto tseo, ke selo se ke se sireletsa melelwane le seriti tsa lefatshe le, le seriti sa go akgolelang. Rre Mmusi ka tsela eo, ke eme nokeng tiro e ba e ikanetseng. Se re tshwanetse re se ba akgolele kgang ya gore re ntshe madi re neele maphata a gago re le baeteledipele, e bile re tswelele re ba ema nokeng otlhe ba ba dirang tiro ka fa tlase ga boeteledipele jwa gore ba tswelele ka tiro e. gago, wena o le ka fa tlase ga boeteledipele jwa Puso e e E se bone fela, le mapodise. Borukutlhi fa bo ntse bo dirang dilo mo pontsheng gore re kgone go thusa tšhaba gola, fa sepodise se tlhaelelwa ke ditsompelo, borukutlhi ya rona. Ka a le kalo rra, ke ema nokeng kopo ya gago bo tlaa tswelela bo ntse bo gola. Fa mapodise ba Rre Mmusi. tlhaelelwa ke dikoloi le tsa ditlhaeletsanyo which they can intercept le borukutlhi jwa segompieno, borukutlhi MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MR ga bo ka ke jwa fela. Re tshwanetse gore le bone re ba MOLAO): Ke a go leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke ema eme nokeng ka sengwe le sengwe se re ka se kgonang, nokeng kopo ya mokaulengwe. Ke batla go simolola gore ba dire tiro ya bone ba nonofile mo meweng, go ka go supa gore, lephata le le botlhokwa fela thata mo balelwa le training ya bone. Botlhe sesole, sepodise le thitibalong le kagiso ya lefatshe la rona. ba ditoronko, ba tshwanetse gore ka dinako tse tsotlhe, Tumelo ya me ke gore, mo lefatsheng lepe fela le re nne le security and stability mo lefatsheng la rona… o ka le akanyang, fa o ka nna le sesole se se se nang MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Moatlhodi wants ditsompelo tse di siametseng gore ba dire tiro ya bone, you to clarify something. o a bo o jwala mathata. Tumelo ya me ke gore masole fa ba leng teng, jaaka re itse ba ya kwa bo Okavango MR MOLAO: Ke kopa o re tlaatlaa Rra Nkamo, nako kwa ba tlhaselwang teng, ba tshwanetse gore ba bo ba e tsamaile. na le ditsompelo tsa maemo a ntlha, tsa go sireletsa MR MOATLHODI: Clarification. Ke a leboga melelwane ya lefatshe le. Ga o ka ke wa nna le masole Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. ba tsamaya ka dikoloi tse di tsamayang di kgwetha mo Good afternoon sir. Ke a leboga Motlotlegi Tona Fidelis tseleng go tsenwa ka fa tlase ga tsone di baakanngwa. Molao, Mmilili. Ke leboga thata ka fa o galaletsang Golo moo go ama boitekanelo jwa bone le ka fa ba ka sesole sa rona ka teng. Mphitise fa ntombo, how do sireletsang serodumo le melelwane ya lefatshe le ka you reconcile ka fa bangwe masole ba sotlegang thata teng. Go botlhokwa gore masole a rona re ba tlamele ka teng ba amogela pension ya P410, mme ba dirile ka ditsompelo tse di siametseng go ba nonotsha mo ka botswerere mo go kanakana? Ke gore ba sena megopolong le mo moweng, gore fa ba dira tiro ya bone ditshwanelo ka fa ba sotlegang ka teng, ba bangwe ba e ba e ikanetseng gore ba tlaa swela lefatshe le, re bo re phakisiwa ke Mmaboipelego. How do you reconcile ba file ditsompelo. Ga ba ka ke ba tsamaya ka ditlhobolo this? tsa bo kgobela fa motho a ka bua, re bo re re nnyaa ke masole ba siame. E le gore le bonno jwa bone ke go nna MR MOLAO: Ke dumalana le wena Rre Moatlhodi. mo ditanteng le matlo a a kgothaganeng, ba tletse naga e Ke sone se ke dumelang gore re tshwanetse gore ba yotlhe ba batla boroko jo bo sa siamang. Go botlhokwa sesole re ba fe madi a a lekaneng, a dituelo tsa masole gore, e re fa re ba abela madi, re ba abele madi a a le pensions tsa bone e ka nna tse ba ka itshetsang ka lekaneng gore a ka ba fa boroko jo bo siameng le dituelo tsone fa ba tswa. Fa re ka tswelela nako le nako fa ba tsa bone e nne dituelo tse di ka ba kgotsofatsang gore ba fiwa madi re bo re ba kgoba, nnyaa ba ka se ke ba fiwa, se ka ka letsatsi lepe ba nna le dikakanyo jaaka re e tle ba a tweng, kgabagare re tlaa tsena mo bothateng jwa re bone mo mafatsheng a mangwe sesole se phamola gore fa ba lebeletse seemo sa bone sa itshetso gore Puso. Ba tshwanetse gore ba tlhokomelwe, ba fiwe ga se a ba siamela, re felele re tsene mo seemong se

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kgantele ba tsogologelang kana ba phamola Puso, le dikoloi tse di gaufi gore batho ba kgone go thusega gore jaanong ba itirele ka gore rona ba re mo Pusong fa ba bega (report), ka gore jaaka ke bua, gore koloi re itebisa go sele. Ke seemo se ke sa dumalaneng le e tswe kwa Tati Town, go tsaya lebaka. Kgantele re sone, ke sone se ke neng ke bua ke re, a well-resourced bo re re mapodise ba a palelwa, mme e le gore dikoloi and well trained security services se botlhokwa mo tse di ka ba thusang gore ba nne bofefo go tsibogela thitibalong ya lefatshe la rona. Re tshwanetse gore re seemo, ga di nne teng. Ke batla go bua ke gatelela kgang se ka ra gadima kwa morago when we want to resource e ya gore Marapong le Sebina Police Stations, nnyaa, our prison services, police services and the army gore motho wetsho, re nnile pelo telele go lekane, re kopa di di nne tsa maemo a ntlha, go tsamaelana le fa re leng nne teng. Mafelo kana mafatshe a teng, a abilwe kwa teng re le lefatshe. Re tshwanetse go dira golo mo, fa e Sebina le Marapong, mme a ija fela, kgabagare a tlaa le gore re batla go tswelela re ruile kagiso le thitibalo. felela a re timelela. Ke selo se ke se go kopang gore Mo mafatsheng a mangwe re a utlwalela mapodise ba ba se emele ka dinao, re bone police stations tse di ema sa amogeleng sentle ba sa tlhokomelesege, jaanong ba ka dinao, borukutlhi bo tle bo kokobele mo kgaolong tshwenya setšhaba mo. Ba kgona go itirela roadblocks e ke e emetseng, bogolo jang jwa stock theft, bo ile gongwe le gongwe ba tsaya madi ba tsenya mo dipateng, magoletsa. Re na le dikgaolo tsa Makobo, Natale, bribery, sengwe le sengwe, fa dituelo tsa bone di sa Jamataka le Matsitama, kwa e leng gore bogodu jwa nna sentle. Dilo tse re a di utlwalela mo mafatsheng a leruo tota bo itsamaisa sesole, fa motho a ka bua jalo. mangwe, mme ga re di batle mo lefatsheng la rona. Go Fela ka gore go a itsewe gore mapodise ba kgakala go botlhokwa gore batho ba fa re bua ka bone, re se ka ra tswa Tati Town ba ya gone kwa merakeng koo, go tlaa bua ka bone re ba nyefola, re bue ka bone re itse gore ba tsaya lebaka. Jaanong fa o ka re atametsa police stations tlhoka ditsompelo tsotlhe tsa gore tshireletsego ya rona tse, go tlaa nna bonolo gore batho ba kgaolo ba thusege. e nne e e nitameng. Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke batla go wela fa Rre Mmusi ke re, bogolo jang MR REATILE (JWANENG-MABUTSANE): Thank mapodise rra, kwa kgaolong e ke tswang kwa go yone you Mr Chairperson. Ke tseye nako e ke leboge Tona le o itse selelo se se leng teng sa police station ya kwa Komiti ya Oversight e e leng gore go tswa maabane le Sebina le Marapong. Re kgaolo e re thusiwang ke Tati gompieno, e bo e ntse e hupalana sekale le maphata a Town le Tutume, fa motho a bega a le kwa Marapong gagwe, go tlhaloganya gore tota ba dira jang. kana Matsitama, gore mapodise ba tswe ka ditsompelo kwa Tati Town ba ye go goroga kwa Marapong kana Mr Chairperson, ke simolole fela ka gore Tona, tlaa re go Matsitama, ba ya go fitlhela bosupi bo setse bo nyeletse, leboge gore e rile fa re le kwa komiting, o ne o tsepame ka gore go tsaya lebaka. Re sale jaaka re solofeditswe ka o bua bothata jo o ka tswang o na le jone mo lephateng nako ya ga Tautona wa pele Rre Mogae a santse a le mo la gago. Kgang e ke reng ke e bue fa ke gore, Tona, go setilong gore, go tlaa nna le police station kwa Sebina na le dikgang tse dintsi tse re tshwanetseng re bone gore le Marapong. re bereka mo go tsone. Re a bona gore go boammaaruri sepodise sa rona se a bereka, ka ditlhaelo tse ba nang Re kgaolo e borukutlhi jwa go utswiwa ga leruo bo le le tsone, bogolo thata fa o tsaya mo dikgaolong tse teng thata mo dikgaolong tse tsa Matsitama, Natale le di tshwanang le tsame. Ke bothata gore mapodise ba Jamataka. Ke re nnyaa, re nnile pelotelele, go lebaka. tlhoke fa ba berekelang teng le se ba berekang ka sone. Batho ba kgaolo e ba nnile pelotelele, go lebaka. Matona Mr Chairperson, this will end up compromising boleng botlhe ba ba tlileng pele ga gago, ba ke tseneng mo jwa sepodise sa rona. Fa ke re ba tlhoka fa ba berekelang Palamenteng ke ba fitlhela, Rre Ramadeluka Seretse, teng, fa o tsena mo Jwaneng, o fitlhela matlotla fela a Rre Kgathi ba tswa kwa kgaolong ba ya go solofetsa, diofisi a a saleng a agiwa bogologolo. Le gompieno mme nako kgolo ke eno. Nnyaa, batho ga ba ka ke ba jaana fa o bua Honourable Minister, ga o na le fa e le nna pelotelele mo go kanakana mme ba se ka ba fiwa kakanyo le keletso ya gore ka letsatsi lepe wa ipona sepe. o tokafaditse diofisi tsa Jwaneng, tse e leng tsone di tlhokometseng dikhumo tse di kanakana tsa lefatshe la Ke solofetse go le go tona mo go wena gore jaanong ke Botswana. Mapodise a teng re solofela gore ba bereke, nako ya gore police stations tsa Marapong le Sebina, di mme morale wa bone o gogega mo seretseng. nne teng ka gore ditsholofetso di dirilwe mo Dikgotleng. Police posts tse di teng kwa bo Mathangwane, Sebina Tona, ke kopa o eme ka dinao, o tseye ditshwetso tse le Borolong, re tlhoka gore dinako tsotlhe go bo go na di maleba, go supafale tota gore o tokafatsa maikutlo

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a mapodise a a direlang mo toropong ya Jwaneng. MR REATILE: Thank you honourable. Ke yone kgang Jwaneng o tsweletse o a gola, nako e police station e ka gore masole ba na le workshops tsa bone, go a ba neng e agiwa, e ne e tlhokometse dikonteraka tsa moepo berekela gore le fa ba ka tswa ba na le dikgoropa, ba nna tse di neng di le foo ka nako eo, mme gompieno ga e sa ba di itshwarela ka spanner, ba bo ba gatela pele. tlhole e le dikonteraka, e setse e le motse. Sepodise se gape, se tlhokometse bo Sese. Sese fela ka boyone, e na Kgang e ke neng ke gatelela mo go yone, ke gore ga nke le over 5 000 people, ba e leng baagi ba koo. Fa o tsaya ke utlwa ope yo o etleng a buelele SSG. Go botlhokwa gape bo Mokhomma, Thankane, Samane le Maokane, gore SSG, ba nne le ditsompelo tsa bone. Mo go sepodise sa Jwaneng se goga bokete. Ke kopa gore ntshwenyang fela Mr Chairperson, ke gore ba SSG ba Tona, o eme le bone, go supafale gore mme tota wena, bona dikoloi ka bontsi, go gaisa mapodise a e leng gore o tletse go tla go tokafatsa seemo sa mapodise a lefatshe bosigo le motshegare ba amogela megala gotwe, “ke la Botswana ka fa ba berekang ka teng. tlhasetswe, motho a re o tlile go mpolaya.” Phetolo ya mapodise e bo e ntse e le gore, “ga go na koloi e santse Se sengwe Tona, ke tswelela ke ntse ke go kopa e ile to patrol, e ile to attend report e nngwe e e ntseng gore, netefatsa gore boroko jwa mapodise e nna jo bo e begwa.” A re netefatseng gore priorities tsa rona, re di beye sentle. Ga ke ise ke bone bokebekwa jo bo kalokalo, itumedisang. Ga e ka ke nako le nako go bo go supafala jo bo ka pateletsang gore nako le nako madi a rona a bo fela gore mapodise ke bakopi mo lefatsheng le le a tshelesegela kwa SSG ka bokete jo a tshelesegelang kwano, bone o kare jaanong Puso ga se ya bone. A re ka jone. Re reka dikoloi tsa maphatsiphatsi, tse gotweng netefatse gore fa re le mo Budget jaana, bokete jwa madi ke tsa kgalemelo lenyatso, tse di tlalang leswe fela la ke jo bo yang go tlhokomela boleng jwa fa mapodise dithole, di jewa ke dipeba, go sena sepe se di se dirang. a berekelang le fa ba robalang teng. Gompieno jaana Mme tse di tshwanetseng go tsena mo tirisong, tse di tse ba di dirisang, ga go na dikoloi tse di lekaneng mo ka thusang kwa Jwaneng/Mabutsane, e re fa go begwa, kgaolong ya Jwaneng/Mabutsane, e e nang le police mapodise a tsiboge ka nako, tsone ga diyo. stations tse pedi, tse e leng gore... Honourable Minister, ke tshwanetse ke go bolelele Fa o tsena kwa go ba Special Support Group (SSG); kgang e nngwe. Batho ba Digawana ba nthomile. Ba re ga nke ke utlwa ope a ba buelela mo Palamenteng. Ke ba a ikuela mme ga o tsiboge Tona. Ba ikuela gore batho sale ke tsena mo Palamenteng ka 2004, nako le nako basweu ba ba nang le dipolase ka fa, ba bolaya ditonki Mapalamente ba le mo teng ga Palamente e, ba buelela tsa bone, ba hula dintša le dipodi tsa bone. Ga ba sa tlhole mapodise a re ikuelang kwa go bone, Batswana... ba itse gore ba ka ikuela kae. Ga se wena Tona wa ntlha kgang e e tsena ka ene. E kile ya diragala ka Matona “EXCHANGE OF SPEAKERSHIP” ba ba fetileng. Go ne ga diragala gore motho mosweu a dire jalo, mme Tautona wa nako eo Rre Khama a re, MR CHAIRPERSON (MR PULE): Good afternoon “fa le bona a hudile ditonki tsa lona, go sena ope yo o Honourable Members. Honourable Reatile, Honourable tsibogang e le mapodise, boelang kwa mapodiseng ao Mathoothe is asking for elucidation. le ba botse gore, le kolota monna yo bokae le ye go mo MR REATILE: A se ka a ba a diega Mr Chairperson. duela, ke tlaa tla ke le thusa gore re mo duele.” E rile motho mosweu a utlwa jalo, a bo a ya go reka ditonki MR MATHOOTHE: Point of elucidation. Thank you le dintša tsa batho bao, di bo di ba boela. Gompieno Mr Chairperson. O e tshwere sentle mokaulengwe. jaanong ke se se golo, batho ba kwa ba lela dikeledi tse Kgang e ke neng ke re ke tlatse fela ka yone, ke ya gore di fetang le tsone tsa ga Ragele. fa o ne o bua ka dikoloi, go botlhokwa thata gore mo police stations, ba nne le their own workshop, o se ka Ke kopa gore Tona, netefatsa gore sepodise sa rona se se wa fitlhela e re fa dikoloi tsa bone di senyegile, di bo ka sa re thusa ka mebala, ba thuse ka gore ga o a direlwa di isiwa kwa bo Central Transport Organisation (CTO). sentle o le Motswana, ba eme ka dinao. E se ka ya re ka Fa ba na le their own workshop, ba ka kgona gore ba gore jaanong yo mongwe ke yo o nang le millions, ke a di baakanye gone foo, gore effectiveness e re buang ka farmer, o na le feedlot le polase, ba bangwe ke Batswana yone, e tle e nne teng. ba ba dikobo dikhutshwane, e bo e le gore jaanong bone bao, ke ba ba tlaabong ba bokolela fela, go sena ope yo E re ke wela gape, Tona a tle a tlhalose gore police o ka ba phimolang keledi. Jaanong nako e tlile, re rile re stations tsa Serowe le Mmashoro, di kae? a itshoka Tona. Ke dumela gore ba ba ledileng dikeledi

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tse gompieno, ba tlaa utlwa gore ke ba reile ka re fa e le pelo tota ka gotwe monna yole o jele madi a bone a gore ke tlaa nna le nako ya go bua, mafoko a ke tlaa ya Somalia le Mozambique. go a tsenya mo ditsebeng, e seng kwa khoneng, e leng mo Palamenteng. Ke dumela gore o a amogetse Tona. Mr Chairperson, mma ke simolole ka Administration of Justice. Tona, ke batla go go akgolela establishment Ke ne ke ka rata gore e re fa re tswa fa o bo o mpolelela of specialised courts tse di itebagantseng le GBV le gore satellite police station ya Khakhea e tla leng ka gore tse e leng gore they would be child friendly, ka gore re re sale re solofediwa re bo re solofediwa? Gompieno itse seemo sa go tsena mo court for anybody, e seng jaana Khakhea o tshwere dipolase tse dintsintsi, mme bana fela, ke se se tshosang. Jaanong o ka akanya gore fa nne satellite police station e e ka nna teng, re ne re mo baneng tota go tshwanetse go bo go tshosa mo go ka leboga fela thata. Re ba ditlhabololo tsa rona e leng feteletseng. Ke batla go akgola for setting up of these tsa ditsholofetso, ga nke re bona ditlhabololo dipe tse two divisions. Se se ntshwenyang fela ke lebelo la gore di tsenang mo tirisong. Re sale re letile kwa Khakhea, dilo tse di tsene into practice ka gore dikgang tsa GVB re kopa gore o potlakele satellite police station ya rona di a tshwenya tota. Jaanong... gore e goroge, e re kamoso le rona re bo re tshwana le bana ba malwapa a mangwe, re itse gore Tona o re MR CHAIRPERSON: Point of order, Honourable kgaratlhetse. Ramogapi. Go ahead.

Ya bofelo ke kopa gore mapodise ba ba tumileng ka gore MR RAMOGAPI: Point of order. Ke a leboga Mr ke ba ba sa apareng… re sale re agelwa police station e Chairperson. Honourable Healy a re monna mongwe tona kwa Mabutsane, e e lekaneng. Gompieno jaana fa o jele madi a batho. Kana fa motho a jele madi a batho, tiro e tlhoka ba ba sa apareng, ba tshwanetse ba lelediwa ke molato Mr Chairperson. A a tlhalose gore monna yoo (call) kwa Jwaneng. O tlaa utlwa gotwe yo jaanong ke mang? ka gore ke motho yo leso la gagwe le belaetsang, re MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable, why are you tshwanetse re batle ba ba le rutetsweng go tswa kwa wasting our time ka dikgang tse di senang lepele le Jwaneng, ba tle go tsaya dinepe ka fa ba itseng ka teng, morago? Fa motho a bua a re monna mongwe, o a bo a ba tle ba tsweledise ditlhotlhomiso, kana ke motho a raya mang? Honourable Healy, go ahead. ikaleditse. Mr Chairperson, a re netefatse gore re gorosa offices tsa go nna jaana kwa Mabutsane gore batho ba se MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: I think o batla o mo ka ba latela ditlamelo, di ba latele. tsenya “mmutla” (mute) wa maabane o bua ka one. Maabane o letse a re go na le mmutla gone fa. A ko o o Tona, re kopa gore o tokafatse dikago tsa boroko ka gore mo tsenye a didimale. o a ne o ya go oketsa budget ya gago ka back door, o sa kopa permission mo Palamenteng. O overspend fela Mr Chairperson, ke batla go akgolela Minister kgang ya o bo o re o tlaa tla kwa go rona o kopa supplementary. Judicial Services Standards. Tota o tletse ratification mme re ne re ise re tlhaselwe. Golo mo Tona go tlaa felela jaanong go go senya leina MR CHAIRPERSON: Iketle pele Honourable ka gore ministry wa gago ke one wa thokgamo le Member, there is procedure from Honourable Mmolotsi. tiragatso molao ka manontlhotlho. Fa e le gore ke one o o ka felelang o overspend, re itse gore ba violate melao MR MMOLOTSI: Point of procedure. Ke a leboga Mr ya lefatshe le ya tsa madi, o bo o tswelela go ntse go nna Chairperson. Kgang e e buiwang ke Honourable Healy, jaana. Go raya gore re wetswe ke seru mo lefatsheng kana o bua gore masole ba jetswe madi ke mongwe. la Botswana fa e le gore Administration of Justice e ka Jaanong kana golo fa Mr Chairperson, re bua ka masole overspend e sa ipone tsapa e bile e sena tlhompho. Ka le madi mme re a bua re le mo Palamenteng. Go na le go rialo Mr Chairperson, mma ke leboge Tona ke bo ke masole bangwe ba ba kileng ba nna ba supa fa e le gore mo raya ke re ke vote yes. go na le madi mangwe a bone a go lebegang a sa goroga sentle kwa go bone, ba a batla. Jaanong go lebega o kare MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY (GABORONE jaanong go na le mongwe mo Palamenteng yo o itseng CENTRAL): Thank you Mr Chairperson. Le nna ke kwa madi a a leng teng ka gore re tswa kgakala re botsa lebogela monyetla o. Hei! Rra Nkamo, o fitlhela seemo dipotso ka madi a mme go sena yo o itseng gore gatwe sa our retired disciplined forces; masole, mapodise le go diragetse jang. Jaanong ke ne ke re ka motho o tlile badisa magolegwa se tshwenya. Ya masole e ngomola Mr Chairperson yo o itseng ...

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MR CHAIRPERSON: Nnyaa! Nnyaa! O re jela nako re kgaoganyang ministry o ka gore o tshwere dilo tse Honourable Member. dintsintsi. But ke batla go akgola Minister gore mme se e setse e le tshimologo ka go setse go supagetse gore MR MMOLOTSI: Nnyaa Mr Chairperson, kana o tsentse Secretaries tsa Defence, Public Security le masole are expecting gore gongwe karabo ya bone e Justice. So it is a step in the right direction although ga gorogile letsatsi leno. re ise re goroge kwa Kanana, mme fela re mo tseleng. HONOURABLE MEMBER: A ko o iketle! Ke mo akgole.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Mmolotsi, ga ke Sentencing Policy Development and Amendment of batle... Penal Code and Criminal Procedure and Evidence Act to focus on sexual and GBV offences; fela jaaka ke MR MMOLOTSI: No! Healy cannot just throw ntse ke bua, this is most welcome ka gore go maleba allegations tse a senang bosupi jwa tsone a bo a tlogelwa gore policies, Penal Code le Criminal Procedure and fela. Evidence Act di bo di nyalana le se re batlang go se tlhabolola mabapi le sexual offences and dikgang tsa MR CHAIRPERSON: Ga a ise a bitse leina la ga ope. GBV gore conclusion le bofefo jwa teng bo oketsege re tle re goroge foo ka pela. MR MMOLOTSI: Re batla a ntsha bosupi Mr Chairperson. Honourable Minister, ke batla gape go go lebogela go ema pele ka kgang ya Legal Practitioners Act, o santse MR CHAIRPERSON: Nnyaa! Nnyaa! Honourable o buisanya le legal practitioners. Kana re mo Pusong Healy, go ahead. ya morero and it is very, very important to bring all the MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Thank you Mr affected parties on board. Le yone it is a big plus for you Chairperson. Judicial Service Standards; Honourable there Minister. Minister, it is very, very important for us to have Safety and Security; jaaka Morena Mmusi a setse a standards ka gore dilo tse tsa molao ke dilo tse di buile, kgang e ya private security services e a tshwenya sensitive thata. Jaanong fa e le gore ga go na gongwe tota. Gongwe le gongwe fela ke selelo. Ga se selelo se se standards tsa gore tsholofelo ya rona ke gore... felang, Batswana ba complain thata, bogolo jang ba ba MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Healy, Honourable hirilweng mo security. Dituelo tsa bahiriwa ba security Mathoothe is asking for clarification. services, o fitlhela go ngomola pelo, dikgwedi di kgona go tlhatlagana ba ise ba amogele, fela jaaka re bona MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Ke tlaa mo fa kwa seemo kwa Mapalamente ba nnang teng gore le gone bofelelong Mr Chairperson, mma ke kgorometsenyana. koo, badisa dikago ba teng ba a ngongorega ka fa ba duelwang ka teng. So this is a very, very pertinent issue. MR CHAIRPERSON: Okay, go ahead. Jaanong a ko o itebaganye le yone mongwame. MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Go botlhokwa gore Amendment of the Anti-Human Trafficking Act; le yone go nne le standards tsa Judicial Services so that fa o le e e siilwe ke dinako. This is one of the most heinous an affected party mo dilong tse, o bo o itse fela gore the crimes. Jaanong go maleba gore re tsamaye, re e lebalebe minimal standard e o ka e solofelang ke eng gore fa dilo ka gore patterns tsa teng di fetoga kgapetsakgapetsa. di sa tsamaye sentle, go bo go na le a reference point ya Jaanong go botlhokwa gore melao ya rona le yone e gore o kgone gore standards tse di tlhomilweng ke tse tsamaye le dinako. mme ke bona go sa tsamaiwe ka those standards.

Ke batla go mo akgolela le yone e re setseng re e fetileng Botswana Police Services; Mr Chairperson, kgaolo ya Sex Offenders Registry Bill. That is way overdue ya me, especially kwa kgaolwaneng ya Boikhutso development but ke batla go akgola le yone Ntlo gore re Extension 27, ke nngwe ya dikgaolwana tse the crime bo re setse re fetisitse molao o. rates tse di begwang kwa Broadhurst Police Station, di kwa godimodimo, mme ditsompelo di a tlhaela. Fela jaaka Ambassador Kapinga a bua ka ditiro tse Mapodise a Modimo ba a leka, mme ditsompelo di a dintsintsi di beilwe mo ministry o le mongwefela, tlhaela tota. Nako e nngwe le fa ke sa itse gore a ga re ke dumalana le ene gore we have to get to a point e utlwane sentle; through the Constituency Development

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Fund, batho ba Gaborone Central, kwa Boikhutso, ba batla go bona integration ya bone back to a civilian life lekile go itirela potter cabin gore mapodise ba ka nna e tokafala, mme le bone ba retire with dignity in terms le a Satellite Police Station mo go yone. O kare ga re of their personal welfare. So go a itumedisa Honourable atlege mo go buisanyeng le ba ga lona gore golo moo Minister through you Mr Chairperson. re go tsenye mo tirisong, re bone along the Nelson Mandela Highway, fa bo Taung traffic lights, fa bo Total Kwa Prisons, hei! go ngomola pelo tota go utlwa gotwe fale, gore re ka e baya golo gongwe gone foo, ka gore they have spent 3.2 per cent of their Development Budget there are high incidents of crime gone foo. Jaanong (P3.3 million), mme they were allocated P98 million. Fa Minister, gongwe ke tlaa tla ke buisana le wena legale o akanya gore batho ba Modimo ba sokola ka boroko off the record. jang, fa o akanya the many aspects tsa welfare ya bone tse e leng gore this Development Budget could have Dikgang tsa matlo or conditions of service in general touched on, go ngomola pelo tota go utlwa gotwe only 3 tsa Botswana Police, as well as Prisons and Botswana per cent has been spent. Defence Force (BDF), particularly Prisons and Botswana Police, di fa moragonyana tota, re tshwanetse Payment of commuted allowance kwa Botswana Prisons go di leba sesha. Ke batla go akgola Minister gore is an issue, it has long been approved mme ga go tender ya more than half billion, e e neng e lebagane diragale. gore go rekiwe flats tse di fa Maruapula, re humisa Camping equipment; fa ba ya on trips ba reng, didirisiwa landlord nngwe, o e boetse morago. Ke kopa gore madi di a tlhaela. Jaanong fa o bua ka Development Budget, a a dirisiwe mo housing scheme ya mapodise, re ba fe o bo o utlwa gotwe didirisiwa di a tlhaela, mme go sa dignity, ba retire ba ikagetse matlo kana ba itheketse dirisiwe madi, go a tshwenya. matlo. Directorate of Public Prosecutions (DPP); Mr Progression within both Prison Services and the Police Chairperson, phakela fa re le mo komiting, re bua le ba Services is very worrying, particularly kwa Prisons. Attorney General Chambers (AGCs), go ne ga buiwa Ke batla go fa sekai sa maloba sa lepodise that served ka dikgang tse di tshwanang le tsone tsa high profile 37 years le le at Constable level. Minister, that cannot cases gore re latlhegelwa ke di le dintsintsi and it does be allowed because fa motho e le gore ke dikgang tsa not inspire confidence within the DPP. Mo nakong e e discipline kana tsa eng, by that time o tshwanetse go fetileng, re ntse re utlwa tapes gotwe ba ne ba bua eng, ntshiwa. Really fa o bona a nna, go raya gore mathata ga ba bua eng, dilo tseo di a tshwenya. Di dira gore batho a gone foo. So progression is a big problem. ba belaela tsamaiso ya DPP gore gongwe go kgona go bopelwa bangwe kgomo ya mmopa. Jaanong ke ne ke BDF; ke batla go simolola fela ka go akgola mogolole re they need to get their act in order. Le judgments tse Major General Mpho Mophuting, for his assignment to di ntseng di tswa, some of them have even spoken to Deputy Commander ya BDF. Ke batla go akgola le yone the person of the DPP, e felela e le gore fa o sa itse tsa BDF gore re bone new and younger faces taking up the semolao jaaka bo rona jaana, you can even doubt his defence command. integrity and credibility. Jaanong ke re Minister, dilo tse Reduction of Development Budget; ke batla gore ke di tlhoka gore o di ele tlhoko, o busetse serodumo sa go akgole Minister, ke akgole Tautona Masisi gore DPP into… fela jaaka go ntse go ngongoregiwa gore madi a a MR CHAIRPERSON: Your time is up Honourable tsenngwang in the military is too high, so I think this Member. is a positive development. Ke nngwe ya dilo tse go sa bolong go lelwa ka tsone fela jaaka public service gore MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Ke a leboga. is too big. So I think this is a step in the right direction go fokotsa madi ao. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION (MS MAKWINJA): Ke a leboga Mr Chairperson. Ke Re batla go bona on the Human Resources (HR) side, the ema nokeng Tona mo kopong e a e beileng pele Ntlo e. strengthening of resources or addition of resources. Fa o Ke gatelela jaaka ba bangwe ba ntse ba gatelela gore bua ka strengthening of Military Veterans Unit, those are Motswana le lefatshe le, ba beile mo go Tona le ba a good steps sir because jaaka re bua gore batho ba fa ba nang le bone go le sireletsa mo go sengwe le sengwe tswa mo tirong, o fitlhela go tlhomola pelo. Jaanong re se se ka amang botshelo jwa Motswana, bogolo jang

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lefatshe. Thitibalo e re leng mo go yone, e tla jaana ka Ke leboge thata gore, ba tlaa dirisa maitlamo a Financial gore lephata le, le eme lefatshe le thata nokeng fa go tla Action Task Force (FATF). Golo moo go tlaa re thusa mo tshireletsong ya go nna jaana. Ke mo eme nokeng, fela mo mathateng a a ntseng a re apere, gammogo le mme e bile ke bona gore madi a a kopang, a a neelwe the Drug Enforcement Agency e e tlaa simololwang. gore ba tle ba kgone go dira ditiro tse. Bagaetsho, ga re sa tlhole re na le makau le makgarebe mo lefatsheng le la Botswana, batho ba kgautlhane ke Ke mo leboge gape Tona, ba dirile mo go lekanyeng. Re diritibatsi. Kana se Modulasetilo, se kokonela itsholelo a itse gore ga go nke go lekana, mme diofisi bogolo jang e bile gape ga se age malwapa. Mo go rayang gore re nna mo metseng e metona, le tsone tsa maroko a babereki, ba le mathata one a gompieno re nang le one kwa dikoleng lekile fela thata. Ga go nke go lekana, mme re kopa gore le gongwe le gongwe, re re bana ba tlhoka kutlo. O tlaa ba nne ba tswelele, bogolo jang kwa dikgaolwaneng, kwa metseng bogolo jang e e mo tikologong ya bo fitlhela diritibatsi di sa robatse botsadi, mental hospital Gaborone le Mmopane. Batho ba Modimo ba mo kwa Lobatse. A batho ba ba rotloetsang dilo tse, go mathateng a boroko. Tota gongwe le gongwe le mo tsewe dikgato fela tse di gagametseng. Ga go sa tlhole dikgaolong tse di kwa ntle, e seng Kgaolo ya Mmopane- go na le bana, bana ba mo diritibatsing. Lentsweletau fela. Mo dikoleng, primary schools; re kope Tona gore, re a Re leboge sepodise le ba sesole betsho, ba ba dirang go itse gore o tlhaelelwa ke bodiredi, re simolole go nna le tlala ka diatla go sireletsa Motswana jaaka ke setse ke dikole tsa mafatshe a ntlha, kwa e reng bana fa ba tsena buile. Fa re bona response mo COVID-19, ba dirile go phakela go na le gate e le nngwefela, go na le security tlala ka diatla, mme re re ba se ka ba fela pelo, re a bona kana lesole, go phuruphutshiwa dibeke. Fa go tlhokafala gore Batswana o kare jaanong ba a lapa go sala ditaelo e bile ba a tlhatlhobiwa kgapetsakgapetsa go bona gore morago. Bone mme, ba nne ba semelele fela jalo, ba se a ga ba na diritibatsi mo mading a bone. Ke teng kwa ka ba ipona tsapa. lefatshe le le tshwanetseng go ya teng, e seng jalo bana ba rona ba tsile go wela mo isong. Ke leboge mo pegong ya ga Tona ka Legal Aid. Legal Aid ke lephatana le le nang le mosola thata mo Batswaneng. Go baakanya Penal Code; re a e lebogela thata le yone. Re lebogela maiteko a bone a gore ba bo ba le phatlalatsa E tlaa dira gore dilo di tsamae ka bofefo. A e dirwe le lefatshe le lotlhe. Ra re ka tsweetswee, dira gore ka bonako, dilo tse di diragalang tse batho ba tle ba fa seemo se tokafala, lephata le le bone madinyana a kgobege marapo go tswelela ba di dira. a rileng gore ba tle ba kgone go tsamaya Dikgotla le Ke gatelela puo e e builweng ke Tona Segokgo ya go Dikgotlana ba ruta Batswana ka gore re tlhasetswe ke lebogela madi a a filweng a gore, bagaetsho search bo GBV, le dilo tse dintsi tse Batswana ba batlang kwa and rescue operation le emergency response mo go tsa ba yang teng go ikuela. tlholego kana mo dikotsing tse di diragalang ke selo Ke mo lebogele the Sex Offenders Bill. Le jaaka se lefatshe leno la rona le tshwanetseng go tlatsa gore, Honourable Healy a setse a buile, Child Friendly Court re lefatshe le le nnyennyane, ga re na ditlamelo tse di le tsone tsa GBV gore maiteko a, a go diragale ka rileng. Lephata la ga Rre Mmusi le ka nonotshiwa, gore bonako ka gore bana ba rona ba tsweletse ka go bolawa fa go nna le dikotsi tsa difofane le diterena, ka gore e ke batho. Ka melawana e le tsone dilo tse di dirilweng bile le tletse lefatshe le lotlhe, ba bo ba ka kgona go tse, re tlaa tloga re bona seemo se ritibala. ya go thusa, ba rutuntshitswe ka mo ba rutuntshitsweng ka teng. Ke sone se ke reng mo ditseleng tse ditona, Ke leboge gore o solofetsa gore o tlaa tlisa Military Emergency Rescue Teams, dedicated for that, di ka Veterans Bill ka July jaana. Kgang e e tswa kgakala, bewa foo ra tla ra somarela matshelo a Batswana. Tota kgang e go na le dingongora tse dintsi tsa veterans. ke sone se ke reng, ke lebogela pego e, mme a dilo tse Modulasetilo, a kgang e e potlakelwe, batho ba ba di ye go lejwa. Modimo ba se ka tlelwa ke boitlhobogo ka gore ba diretse lefatshe le mo dingwageng tse dintsintsi fela Go ya pele, go na le makoanyana a re tshwanetseng thata. E bile ba na le boikarabelo ka mo ba itshotseng ka gore re a tokafatse. Go tlhaela ga didirisiwa le teng. Ga re batle go nna re utlwa gotwe go na le mathata bodiredi ke mathata mo dikgaolong tsotlhe, e seng kwa masole a re, ka gore masole a kamoso ke one gape kwa Lentsweletau-Mmopane fela. O tlaa fitlhela mo a tlaabong e le veterans. A re boneng gore batho ba re a Mmopane kana magodu ba itse gore mo Gaborone ba ba tlhokomela ka gore ba diretse lefatshe le. tshwarwa ke bonako, Mmopane le Kopong, borukuthi

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bo kwa godimo. Mapodise ga a na ditsompelo, ga gona tirong e ba e dirang. Ke bua ka kgang e e sa tswang go dikoloi jaaka go setse go builwe. Kwa Hatsalatladi go feta ya ene Moeteledipele wa Botswana Prisons, yo e tlaa begiwa, lepodise le tle letsatsi le le latelang bosupi rileng a tsoga phakela a fitlhela a ntshitswe mo tirong. bo seyo, o bo o fitlhela e le gore Motswana kwa gae, Golo moo go leswafatsa bodiredi jwa maphata a a bogolo jang mo mafelong a a kwa tennyanateng ke tshwanang le Prisons, Police, Botswana Defence Force mathata mo go tlhokeng ditsompelo. (BDF) gareng ga a mangwe. Gongwe Tona o ka ya go tsaya dikgang le Tautona ba ngunanguna gore, Tautona Go tshwanetse go nonotshiwa lephata le le dupang, e se ka a re a tsoga mo mosong fa a sebetswa… ka gore mongwe o setse a buile ka Criminal Investigation re utlwalela gore Tautona gantsi o tsaya dikgakololo Department (CID), Surveillance and Investigations. tsa go sebetswa gotwe semangmang ga a go siamela, Go dikgang tsa National Petroleum Fund (NPF) tsa ke motho wa ga Khama, a bo a felela a tsaya tshwetso gore madi a nyeletse, mme fa lephata le le ne le ka ya gore nnyaa a mo ntshe mo tirong eo. Golo moo go nonotshiwa thata re ka thusega. Go ne go na le mafatshe leswafatsa maphata a Prisons, BDF le Police gareng ga a amegang mo dikgannyeng tse, o fitlhele o sa itse a mangwe Mr Chairperson. Kgang e go botlhokwa gore gore jaanong re le Botswana, ditsala tsa rona tota ke re bue ka yone, re se ka ra e oshaosha. bo mang. A mafatshe a re ntse re dirisana le one, a ba re eme sentle. Lephata le le tshwanetse go nonotshiwa, Go na le dikgang dingwe tse di welang mo lephateng gore le sale dilo tse morago go bona gore tota mathata la gago Tona, tsa bo Gerrie Nel tse re ntseng re bala ke eng. Lephata la Surveillance and Investigations; a ka tsone mo dipampiring tsa dikgang. Batswana ba ke CID, Special Support Group (SSG) kana ke eng ba santse ba gakgametse gore, a le santse le ya kwa Aferika tshwanetse go nonotshiwa gore fa go na le magatwe ba Borwa gape le ya to engage him mo dikgannyeng tse re sale batho morago. Ga go na Motswana fela… legale neng re tsaya gore gongwe re setse re bone motlhala wa gongwe ba teng ba ba humileng mo ba kgonang go tsone. A le santse le batla go tshamekisa madi a the tax ya kwa Makgadikgading kgapetsakgapetsa, ba nna in payers mo dikgannyeng tse di ntseng jaana, tse video hotels tsa P30, 000.00 per night, mme go bo go sena clips di supileng gore golo mo e ne e se sepe fela e ne se se ka amanngwang le matshelo a a kanakana a bone. e le dikgang tsa boloi gareng ga tse dingwe. Ke ne ke batla go fetisa tseo pele Mr Chairperson, Tona a di Ke ratile mo Clause 18, e e buang ka Office of the reetse gongwe a tle a re tlhalosetse sengwe mo go tsone. Receiver. Office eo e tlaa tshwanelwa ke gore e thusiwe thata, ka gore tshenyetso-setšhaba e re reng ga e yo… Mr Chairperson, re buile ka dikgang tsa Gender-Based Violence (GBV). Ke itumela thata, ke tlhatswegile ngati MR CHAIRPERSON: Your time is up Honourable fa Tona a supa fa ba na le maikaelelo mangwe a go Member. Honourable Boko, the floor is yours. You have ka e fedisa kana go e phimola. Ke selo se se siameng seven minutes to make your contribution. gore re bo re tsaya maatla a rona otlhe, re a tsenya mo MR BOKO (MAHALAPYE EAST): How many dikgannyeng tsa GBV… minutes? MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Boko, Honourable MR CHAIRPERSON: Seven. Mmolotsi is asking for clarification.

MR BOKO: Okay, thank you Mr Chairperson. MR BOKO: Granted. Dikgang tsa me ga di dintsi Honourable Chairperson, di dikhutshwane. Tota dikgang ka bontsi di builwe MR MMOLOTSI: Thank you very much Mr ke Honourable Kapinga, a di bua ka botswerere le Chairperson. Honourable Boko, gongwe o leke botswapelo, gammogo le Honourable Wynter Mmolotsi. to clarify tota o tsenetse kwa teng ka kgang eo ya Honourable Mmusi Kgafela ke mongwe wa batho ba ba appointment ya ga Gerrie Nel, e re e bonang gore ka ntlhatswitseng pelo mo letsatsing la gompieno fa ba bua gore re setse re utlwile dikgang tse di setseng di supile dikgang tse. gore ka boammaaruri di ne di buiwa ke baokamedi ba maphata one ao, re bona gatwe Gerrie Nel has been Mr Chairperson, ke simolole ka kgang e gongwe e tlaa appointed, go sala dikgang tse ba bangwe ba reng ga di ngomolang bangwe pelo ba hutsafala. Ke batla gore na bosupi morago. O tlaa wela o reng? A o tlaa wela o Tona a lebelele kgang ya ba ba eteletseng maphata a a re fa e le gore kgang e e tlaa felela e le gore e re wetse a eteletseng pele, o kare ga ba bereke ka tshosologo mo jaaka tse dingwe tse di re welang, re simolole go bona

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gore a mme re ka se ke re sale ba ba tsayang ditshwetso MR CHAIRPERSON: You are left with one minute. morago, ba ntse ba itse gore ditshwetso tsa bone di ya go tsenya lefatshe mo mathateng, ba ya go felela ba duela MR BOKO: Ee, thank you. Legal Practitioners Act; madi a ba neng ba sa tshwanela go a duela. Tona, diagente ka gore nna ke kgona go nna le bone re e nwa tee kana re le kwa makgotlatshekelong, ba a lela ka MR BOKO: Go boammaaruri, Honourable Mmolotsi, yone gore o kare thorough consultation ga e a dirwa. Ke kana batho ba ba a bo ba itse gore madi a ga a tswe mo ne ke re boela kwa lekgotleng la diagente o ye go nna fa dipateng tsa bone. Ke madi a a bong a tswa from the tax fatshe le bone pele. Le ye go nna le ba Attorney General payers, e le go senyetsa Puso. Fa dikgang di setse di gape le kgone go ya go leba dikgang tse ka gore ba a dule di ntse jaana e bile go supa gore maphata a otlhe ipelaetsa. Ke setse ke go boleletse gore ba go kwaletse a mararo ga a bereke a le mmogo, ga a tshephan, ga a makwalo mo nakong e e fetileng, le wena o rurifaditse gore makwalo a teng o a bone. Jaanong ke ne ke go utlwane, ga a ratane, a itaana ka noga e tshela, ga go kopa gore, fa o batla gore relationship ya bone le wena tlhokafale gore re bo re ntse re tswelela re tlola borders e tswelele e ntse sentle, e se ka ya tshwana le ya bale ba re ya kwa bo Aferika Borwa re ya go goga advocates, bo media e e leng gore e ne ya se ka ya nna sentle gareng Gerrie Nel, re batla go tlhotlhomisa se re setseng re bone ga media le Puso, ke gore jaanong o ye go ba reetsa o ba modi wa sone gape re itse phelelo ya sone. Ke gone go fe tsebe o ba utlwe gore ba reng, gongwe dilo di ka tswa tshamekisa madi mo e leng gore re a go bona mo Pusong di fetogile fa kae. Go botlhokwa gore o dire jalo Tona. ya rona. Ke a leboga. Fa re tswelela Mr Speaker, ke ne ke santse ke bua ka MINISTER OF DEFENCE, JUSTICE AND kgang ya GBV. Ke itumeletse ditshwetso tse e leng SECURITY (MR MMUSI): Thank you Mr gore le a di tsaya le le Puso mme ke lopa gore le ka Chairperson. Ke ne ke batla go simolola fela ka go leka dira botoka go gaisa jaaka le dira. Dikgang tse tsa GBV go tlhalosa gape budget e mme fela ke tlhalosa go se di simolole go rutiwa kwa dikoleng gore bana ba di gontsi. Ke batla go tlhalosa gore madi a re a kopileng tlhaloganye, gongwe go ka re tswa thuso nngwe. Sa fa re tsaya recurrent budget ya rona, it comes to P8, bobedi re ntse re le mo GBV, e nna kgang yone ya gore 390, 415, 480. Fa re tsaya madi a, bontsi jwa one a jaaka Tona Mmusi Kgafela a ne a bua, go botlhokwa ya mo personal emoluments and other operational gore jaanong re lebelele yone Penal Code. Jaanong expenses, otlhe fela, bo petrol bo eng. Gongwe kana molato o e nne molato kgatlhanong le motho e se ka ya batho e tlaare ba bona lephata le neetswe madi a a kana nna molato kgatlhanong le morality jaaka go ntse mo ba bo ba tsaya gore re ka kgona go dira ditlhabololo nakong ya gompieno. Ke itumeletse kgang e a neng a e tse di ntsi. Ke ne ke re ke tlhalose fela gore bontsi jwa madi a a ya kwa personal emoluments le operational baya pele gore jaanong we need to have a holistic review expenses. Fa ke tsaya yone development budget ya rona of the Penal Code gareng ga Acts tse dingwe tse re nang e e leng gore le yone ga e kalokalo, it is at P1, 645, le tsone mo lefatsheng la rona. 405, 587. Development budget e, almost One billion Mr Speaker, kgang e nngwe e ke tshwanetseng go kopa and Sixty-Eight e ya kwa BDF. Out of that One Billion gore re e lebelele ke gore Tona, babereki ba kwa prisons, wa development budget e re e filweng monongwaga ya mapodise gareng ga ba bangwe ba lela ka dituelo. Fa e 2021/22, 73 per cent of that development budget which se ka dituelo ba lela ka maroko a e leng gore le a ba amounts to P783, 464, 985 e duela sekoloto. Ke sone se a neela, a a mo seemong se se ngomolang pelo, ga se re se bitsang re re ke contractual obligations. Sekoloto itumedise. Ke re ga ba kake ba kgona go tsoga mo se e leng gore go sale go rekiwa equipment ka 2015, mosong ba ya go dira tiro, ba tlhola ba alotse dirukutlhi every year we have to pay this. Sekoloto se ka 2015 kana ba dira all sorts of investigations kana sepe fela, fa amounted to almost P8 billion go rekiwa equipment e e le gore ba tsoga mo bonnong jo e seng jone. Ke ne ke e leng teng kwa BDF. Unfortunately ka gore go ne go re dilo tse prioritise them o tlhokomele gore mapodise rekiwa a certain type of equipment, dilo tse dingwe di a kwa Mahalapye, Machaneng, Mookane kana ape fela ne tsa salela kwa morago ka gore madi a rona ngwaga mo lefatsheng la Botswana a na le boroko jo bo ba fang le ngwaga a ya towards the payment of this debt. Ke seriti ka tsela e e ntseng jalo. Mr Speaker, o mpolelele ne ke re ke tlhatswe kgang e gore mang le mang a itse. fa ke setse ka two minutes. Se sengwe se ke neng ke Re bo re fitlhela e le gore gongwe balance e e setseng eleditse go bua ka sone ke the Legal Practitioners Act… ke bo P150 million, almost P200 million to do other

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development projects. Rotlhe re a itse gore go bereka na le ba le 1, 430 ba e leng gore they have recovered. sesole, sepodise le prison ka bo 200, 300 million ga se Re setse ka magolegwa ba le 135 ba ba active, ba le madi ape a a kaekae a a ka rekang sepe. Hopefully e bararo ke bone ba re latlhegetseng. Golo moo go supa tlaare fa re ntse re tsweletse yes, Goromente o ne a reka gore re ne ra leka go ikitaya ka thupa thata gore re leke nako ya teng, o ne a solofetse gore itsholelo ya lefatshe go baakanya dikgwetlho tsotlhe tse re kopanang le tsone e tlaa tswelela e ntse e golela kwa pele madi a tsena. kwa makgotleng a ditshekelo fa go nang le magolegwa Unfortunately itsholelo ya lefatshe e ne ya se ka ya teng. Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. tsamaya jaaka go ne go solofetswe. Gompieno re mo go one mathata ao gore development budget ya rona ga e MR MMOLOTSI: Ke raya magolegwa a overnight, ba kaekae, e nnyennyane fela thata. Fela ke ne ke batla go ba tsenang ba tswa kamoso. tshwaela gone moo gore batlotlegi ba itse gore gongwe MR MMUSI: Ee rra, mme re leka gore re se ka ra nako e nngwe fa ba sa bone projects tsa bone di ema ka ba kgobokanya fela, re leka go dira spacing re leke dinao, bothata ke jone jo. go ba baya sentle. Re a leka thata gore re se ka ra Ke re gongwe fela ke boele mo dikakgelong, ke leboge ba kgotlhaganya fela sir. Ga re na equipment e re ka dikakgelo tsotlhe tse re di beilweng pele re le lephata. tlhatlhobang gore a yo o positive kana negative but we Re a di amogela. Honourable Kgafela, o gakolotse ka fa do everything which we can. Thank you. semolaong, o gakolotse ka dikgang tse di ntsi. O buile Mma ke boele to the responses; melao e mešha e re ka sentencing policy mme e bile gore re tshwanetse go tlileng go e dira, ke tlile go e tlisa fa pele ga Ntlo e gore e tshwaraganela. Ke ka tlhalosa gore bo Honourable ba tle go e sekaseka gore le bone ba e tsenye inputs tsa Member ba itse gore tshwetso nngwe le nngwe e re bone. Tse dingwe, tse go neng go buiwa ka bo Gerrie tlaa e tsayang ya go dira melao ya bo Penal Code go Nel le Directorate of Public Prosecution (DPP), gongwe e baakanya, re ya go tla gape mo Palamenteng. They e tlaa re when I do presentation again on Monday, di will be given an opportunity to give an input to what we tlaabo di le mo puong e ke tlaa e bayang Palamente have put together. Le bone ba tlaa tswelela ba tsenya letsogo… pele fa ke tlile go kopela maphata a Attorney General’s Chamber le Administration of Justice madi. So, ke tlaa MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, di tsenya gone koo. Honourable Mmolotsi is asking for clarification from you. Mma ke tsene mo go Honourable Segokgo; rra, ke go utlwile. Ke utlwile ka fa o re emeng nokeng ka MR MMOLOTSI: Clarification. Thank you very much teng. Gape o buile ka dikgwetlho tse re nang le tsone Mr Speaker. Honourable Minister, ke ne ke kopa gore to appreciate gore re bereka le lona le le Ministry wa o fete thata ka kgang ya gore mo nakong ya gompieno Transport. E bile go na le capabilities tsa go sireletsa e re tlhasetsweng ke COVID mo go kana, holding cells air space e e ka re tsisetsang letseno. Ke dikgwetlho tsa lefatshe la Botswana tsotlhe di tsenya batho ba ba tse re nang le tsone fela jaaka ke setse ke tlhalositse mo tshwerweng ka melato e e farologanyeng. Ba tsenngwa budget gore fale le fale re na le bothata. Ke na le tumelo mo go tsone ba le bantsi ba sa tsewa tests tsa gore a ba ya gore go ya pele, dilo di tlaa tokafala gore re kgone to positive kana ba negative. Ke ne ke re o fete ka kgang e balance all our capabilities; whether it is air or ground gore o e bona e ntse jang? A o bona e le gore seemo se se kwa sesoleng le sepodise gore re kgone to achieve. tlaa se ke se tsweledise bolwetse jo jwa COVID gongwe le bo le sa ele tlhoko gore go kgobokana ga batho ba ba Ke go utlwile rraetsho o bua ka Tlokweng Police Station ntseng jalo in the holding cells ba sa tlhatlhobiwa go ka le gore e tlhoka go katolosiwa. Ke tsone dikgang tse e tle nna le maduo a a diphatsa? e reng ke ntse ke di bua le bomorwarre ke re ke akanya gore go ya pele, re se ka ra aga police stations tse di tona MR MMUSI: Thank you Modulasetilo. E ne ya re golo go le gongwefela, re leke go fokotsa sizes ka gore mo pegong ya me e ke neng ke e baya Ntlo e pele, ka metse e a gola. Fa motse o le kana ka wa Tlokweng o bo leka go tsenelela thata mo seemong sa COVID-19 kwa o ya go agelwa police station e tonatona ya madi a a kwa prisons. Ke tlhalositse gore fa re simolola re ne re na le godimo, kgantele go nna bokete gore re se ka ra kgona magolegwa ba ka nna 1, 568 ba ba neng ba tshwarwa ka go aga e nngwe ka gore go a bo go setse go tsewa gore re mogare. Ke tlhalositse gore mo bekeng e e neng e feta setse re agile police station e tona kwa Tlokweng, mme fa ke simolola go baakanya puisanyo e, re ne re setse re mafelo a mangwe a tlhaelelwe.

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Yes Honourable Kapinga; ke lebogela puisanyo mo mekgwatheng wa re a ikapole a go bolelele gore e re nnileng le yone le ba Portfolio Committee le re beile mapodise a le kana kwa, e bile re dira jaana Mapalamente ba gago mabane le gompieno re ntse re le jaana. So, golo moo ke dilo tsa security Honourable bua ka Administration of Justice le Attorney General. Minister. Ke ne ke re ke go eme nokeng ka procedure ka Maabane re buile ka tsa BDF, sepodise... tsela e e ntseng jalo. So, kgang ya ga Rre Greeff, tota ga e na mokwatla, e a temeka. Ke a leboga sir. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, Honourable Greeff is asking for clarification. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Motsamai, nnyaa, ga se procedure. MR GREEFF: Point of clarification. Ke a leboga Minister. Kgantele o ne o bua ka dilo tse di tshwanang MR MOTSAMAI: Ke a leboga. le bo human trafficking le terrorism gore go lebega di go tshwentse thata. Go lebega drugs di tsena ka bontsi, MR CHAIRPERSON: Nnyaa, ga se procedure. melelwane ya rona e sa sireletsega. Go lebega drugs di le Honourable Healy, clarification. mo tirisong e bile di tsena ka bontsi mo mekgwatheng ya MR MMUSI: Ke ne ke re gongwe ke arabe Motsamai rona mo Gaborone and the whole country. Le tsibogela kana o siame? seemo sa teng jang le le ba Lephata la Itshireletso? MR CHAIRPERSON: Nnyaa, Motsamai ga go na MR MMUSI: Thank you Modulasetilo. Rraetsho, re sepe sa procedure se a neng a se bua, unless o na le tshwere ka go leka gore re nonotse, re rute ba sepodise, sengwe Minister. re ba rekele equipment tse di rileng le go bereka le ba bangwe kwa ntle gore ba ka re kaela ra thusanya, ra MR MMUSI: Nnyaa, e ne e le go tlaleletsa gore ke ka bereka le mapodise a mafatshe a a bapileng le rona ka fa a utlwileng ke mo tlhalosetsa ka teng gore I protect gore le bone ba tshwere bothata. We have relationships the ministry and the security agencies all the time. le mapodise a SADC. Re leka go bereka le bone gore Thank you Mr Chairperson. dilalome tse di tsisang drugs tse re di leke. Ke kgwetlho e e teng but re a e lwantsha. Ke gore fela gongwe ga MR CHAIRPERSON: From Healy and Honourable nke re ntsha statistics but we do work round the clock to Molebatsi, will you allow them? mitigate that problem. MR MMUSI: Yes, allow them le fa ba… Ke boele kwa go wena Honourable Kapinga gore re buisantse, re utlwile dikgang tsa gago and we have MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Point of clarification. assured you gore wena le komiti ya gago, re tlaa tswelela Thank you Honourable Minister, I would not take too re ntse re berekisanya mmogo and interact. We will much of your time. Ke tshwenyegile ka e o ntseng o e take you to all our facilities so that you can also have bua ya drugs ka gore jaaka Honourable Greeff a bua, a firsthand experience ya gore re dira eng, re tsamaisa we are epicenter of this problem in Gaborone. What jang, re tshwere dikgwetlho fa kae. Dikgakololo tse le informs that decision for you not share the statistics? tlaa nnang le ntse le di re neela le le komiti, re tlaa nna Ke botsa se ka gore I have been to police stations that re ntse re di leba. I also want to assure you gore ga go na cover Gaborone Central Constituency and on their gope fa re tlaa dirisang sepolotiki teng, re tlaa berekela crime charts, o fitlhela dikgang tsa drugs, especially lefatshe le, even though personally I am a political when you are talking about things like cocaine, appointee, but I believe that... methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA); mo go bidiwang madaena jaana, di sa bonale. So, golo moo MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, gives us the perception that enough is not being done to Honourable Molebatsi is asking for clarification. tackle those things. O fitlhela go buiwa ka motokwane Before Molebatsi, there is a point of procedure from thatathata. Dilo tse e leng gore they are destroying Honourable Motsamai. families, ga re utlwe go buiwa thata ka tsone. Thank you.

MR MOTSAMAI: Point of procedure. Mma ke thuse HONOURABLE MEMBER: Kgang e ya drugs ba e Minister ka fa tsamaisong gore kana dipotso tse dingwe doja tota, ba a e dikologa tota. tse re di botsang Minister le tsone ke tse di ntshang dilo tsa Puso mo tseleng. Fa o botsa Minister gore le MR CHAIRPERSON: There is also Honourable lwantsha jang go tsena ga drugs kana go anama ga tsone Leuwe, ga ke itse gore a ga ba go jele nako Minister?

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MR MMUSI: Leuwe re buile motshegare, o ne a le kwa akgiwa maoto fela, go tlogetswe fela. Ke sone se Rre komiting. Greeff a se botsang gore tota jaanong se se diragalang ke eng, dikgato tse ba di tsayang ke eng? E seng gore a ASSISTANT MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, tsene into details tse di ka feletsang di ntsha diphiri tsa TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR MOLEBATSI): security jaaka go buiwa. Ke a leboga. Clarification. Ke a leboga Chairperson. Ke gatelela kgang ya drugs le human trafficking. Se ke se itseng MR MMUSI: Kana ke tlhalositse gore we are working ke gore fa ke tseneletse European Union - African, with our neighbouring countries, mme re tsweletse re a Caribbean and Pacific Group of States (EU-ACP) bereka and I can assure this Honourable House, ke tlaa Parliament, ba ne ba tshwenyega ka gore mo ga rona kopa bagaetsho ba sepodise gore gongwe mo General mo Africa security agents di saletse kwa morago ka Assembly, mo malatsing a a tlang, ba tle go dira full dithutego tsa go tlhotlhomisa dikgang tsone tse tsa go presentation. Ke tlaa kopa Mr Chairperson. di sala morago. Jaanong lephata la gago le dira go le kae Honourable Minister to up-skill go simolola ka MR LEUWE: Lesetedi o kae? batlhotlhomise (investigators) le courts gore ba kgone HONOURABLE MEMBER: Boots e kae? gore ba sale morago dikgang tse? Dikgang tsa drugs di dintsi thata mo lefatsheng la rona. Rona ba re nang MR MMUSI: O teng Lesetedi. Thank you. le bana re tshwenyega thata gore a ga ba ye go felela ba fetswa ke tsone dilo tse fela jaaka human trafficking HONOURABLE MEMBER: Boots o tlhokafetse. batho ba rona ba felela kwa mafatsheng. Le kgona jang MR MMUSI: Jaaka Rre Kapinga a ne a bua le ene, ke go tlhotlhomisa dilo tse? Le rutegile go le kae gore le mo assure gore re mo solofeditse go ya go bereka le bone tlhotlhomise dilo tse? kwa komiting ya bone. O buile gore Private Security MR MMUSI: Thank you Molebatsi, o botsa potso e Services e tshwanetse gore gongwe e tshwaragane thata nngwefela rraetsho, ke go utlwile. le Ministry of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Development, mme dilo tseo ke tse e leng gore MR CHAIRPERSON: The last one is Honourable jaaka gompieno, Act e tsentswe jaanong re na le board, Leuwe. ke dilo tse re tlaa nnang re ntse re tswelela, re ntse re bereka mo go tsone. Everything has been implemented MR MMUSI: Mr Chair, mma ke tswelele... within the last 12 months, we now have a board, go a MR CHAIRPERSON: You should be the last one. berekwa, re bona gore re ka fetola fa kae.

MR LEUWE: Point of clarification. Kante o doja eng Rre Morwaeng, thank you very much your honour for Honourable Mmusi? Makomiti a mangwe a go boditse the support. Ke a utlwa, jaaka ke ne ke tlhalosa gore dipotso, mme ga o batle ke dira clarification. gongwe we are not doing enough, le nna ke le Minister, ke dikgang tse ke di buang le boeteledipele jwa rona MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Leuwe, can you jwa sesole, sepodise le prison, ka welfare ya babereki raise your... ba rona, matlo le eng jalo. Fela jaaka ke ne ke tlhalosa, budget ya rona e santse e kgopakgopediwa ke gore re ne MR LEUWE: Thank you Mr Chairperson. re santse re duela dikoloto tse di tswang kwa morago, Modulasetilo, potso ya ga Greeff e tlhamaletse fela, ga mme go ya pele, we will then have to sit, re leke go e tlhoke gore Rre Mmusi a tsene into details. Sekai fela bona gore re prioritise jang to try and balance sengwe ke gore mo malobeng re ne re bona drugs di lwantshiwa le sengwe, re se ntlha e le nngwefela fela. Re solofela ka bokete jo bo neng bo re kgotsofatsa. Go ne go na gore gongwe the economy will improve, re bo re ya kwa le Rre Letebele, yo o neng a supa gore tota drugs di godimo. Unfortunately, that is the situation. a lwantshiwa. Since Letebele a nyelela, jaanong go akgiwa maoto, ke sone se Greeff a batlang go itse gore... O buile ka police station ya Molepolole. Sir, we HONOURABLE MEMBER: Lesetedi! prioritised police station e gore e tlaa dirwa, mme ka mabaka a itsholelo a re leng mo go one, re santse re na MR LEUWE: Lesetedi. Thank you for that correction le letlhoko, mme re ntse re a leba gore re ka e dira jang, Mr Phankgastyle. Re sa tlhole re mmona, re sa tlhole re ka e itlhaganelela jang gore e dirwe. Mme gone ke ka re utlwa gore o tsamaya fa kae, jaanong o kare go tlhalosetsa Bakwena jaaka ba go romile gore gongwe

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mo ngwageng o o tlang o, ga nke re fetse sengwe le wena, it is under construction and it is at 24 per cent sengwe, mme re tlaa dira sengwe le sengwe gore mo development. Ke na le tumelo ya gore e tlaa fela mo ngwageng o o latelang, fa madi a le teng, sengwe le ngwageng one o, a bo e kgona gore e dirwe. sengwe se le teng, it is one of our high and important police stations which have to be constructed. So mme re MR REATILE: Khakhea Police Post Honourable tlaa nna re ntse re bereka mo go yone. Minister not Mabutsane.

Honourable Fidelis Molao, le ene o... MR MMUSI: Yone ya Khakhea sir. Honourable Mangwegape-Healy o buile ka porta cabin e a neng a MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, re gongwe e ka dirwa fa dirobotong tsa bo Metro fale, Honourable Nkawana is asking for clarification. fa Extension 27. Honourable, kana o a itse gore re ne ra dira project ya Safer City mo Gaborone, mme re MR NKAWANA: Clarification. Ke a leboga Mr lemogile gore project e, e kgonne gore e re thuse mo Chairperson, le fa a setse a fetile mo dikgannyeng tsa Gaborone le Francistown and e fokoditse borukutlhi, teng a le kgakalanyana. Ke mmusetse kwa morago ka o jaaka o bona le gone fa dirobotong tsele tsa bo Sefalana- ne a bua ka dikago gore ga ba na go aga tse di magasigasi, Kgalagadi Breweries. Go ne go na le borukutlhi jo tse ditona tsa police stations, a o raya gore le rona ba bontsi, mme re sale re tsenya cameras, borukutlhi bo re saleng re nna mo dikotoising tsa bogologolo kwa ile kwa tlase, because Safer City is a 24-hour policing Botshabelo, re batla police station e e tlhabologileng, re camera station. Re fokoditse borukutlhi fela thata, mme ithoboge kgotsa jang Honourable Minister? e bile re lwa thata gore gongwe re leke go bona madi re MR MMUSI: Nnyaa, ga ke re le itlhoboge. Le fa e atolose. E tsamaye Gaborone otlhe… e le police station e se e tonatona, mme e tlaa nna ya MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Minister, manobonobo. Size is not manobonobo, but it is the quality Honourable Mangwegape-Healy o kopa correction. and the design and gore e fa service e e ntseng jang, ke gone go supang manobonobo. Kana selo se setona ga se MR MANGWEGAPE-HEALY: Correction. Sorry kago, ke go fa Batswana service e e itumedisang gore ba Honourable Minister. Nnyaa, se ke neng ke se bua ke kgone gore ba bone access to mapodise. gore, through the Constituency Development Fund, there is a porta cabin e re batlang go e dirisa as a Ke ye kwa go Honourable Molao, rraetsho, ke lebogile satellite police station, but re sokola ka go lomagana ka fa o neng o bua ka teng, o tlhalosa gore tota masole, le mapodise a gago gore ba re fe manpower to man it. mapodise le ba prisons, they have to be looked after. Everything is ready, e tlhoka bodiredi fela. Thank you. Ke dumalana le wena, le rona re ikiteile ka thupa kwa So re batla go e baya gone ...(Interruptions)… teng koo. ministry gore we will do everything we can gore re bone gore tota re a ba thusa. MR MMUSI: Ee rra, kana go le fa bodiredi le gone ke resources. Fa re na le camera, re bo re boa re baya O ne wa bua ka police station ya Marapong le Sebina, mapodise foo, we are doubling the effort, re ka bo re mme mongwame, ke a itse gore ga o bolo go nkgwetlha tsere mapodise ao, ra ba isa fa e leng gore ga re na e sale ke tsena mo setilong se. Ke a itse gore it was cameras teng. So gongwe ke sone se o bonang re ntse re planned ka 2019/2020, gore e tlaa dirwa, mme jaaka ke diega, re sa kgone gore re ka go thusa jalo. Ga se wena lekile go tlhalosa gore go na le bothata jwa madi, mme fela, ba bantsi, mme we feel gore fa re tsenyang cameras le yone jaaka ke go bolelela, re e tsentse leitlho go bona teng, e nne tsone di re direlang. Di dira tiro e ntle thata gore tota re ka dira jang gore re e bonele madi gore e cameras tse, di thusa mapodise go dira tiro ya bone. dirwe. It is one of our priorities on the developments tse re tshwanetseng go di dira re le ministry ka fa lephateng Ke boe ke tsene mo go Honourable Makwinja, la sepodise. mmaetsho o buile thata, ke a leboga. O buile ka Legal Aid Botswana. Legal Aid Botswana e thusa Batswana Honourable Reatile o ne a bua thata ka boroko, dikoloi fela thata, le cases di a tla, mme re tlaa tswelela ka go e le resources tse di tlhokwang ke mapodise mo kgaolong atolosa. Le boeteledipele bo tlaa tswenngwa. Maloba ke ya gagwe, mme ke re, re ntse re a leka thata gore re kile ka botswa potso ke Honourable Pono Moatlhodi, equip, ga re kgone go dira sengwe le sengwe, mme ke ka mme ke ne ka araba gore ke ikiteile ka thupana gore ke fa re ikantseng ka teng. Ke ne ke re fela ke go gatisetse tlaa leka thata gore e re kgwedi e e ya go fela, re bo re gore o buile ka Mabutsane Police Post, jaaka ke bua le setse re baakantse boeteledipele jwa teng bo le in place.

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Work enforcement should be stepped up, I do agree with Modulasetilo, ke dumela gore ke lekile gore ke bue you and as I have already said, re a dira, re bereka fela dikgang tse ka botswerere, ke tlhalosetse Ntlo e e fano thata ka yone. ka tsone.

Honourable Mathoothe, o ne a kopa elucidation mo go Ke kopa go sutisa mongwame. I beg to move that the sum Honourable Reatile, a bua ka police station ya Serowe. of Eight Billion, Three Hundred and Ninety Million, Rraetsho le yone re e tshwere, mathata fela ke one madi Four Hundred and Fifteen Thousand, Four Hundred go tlhokafala, mme ke police stations tse re batlang go and Eighty Pula (P8,390,415,480) under Recurrent di dira. Re eme ka dinao gore di diragale. Fela ke yone Budget for Organisation 2500, be approved and stand jaaka ke ne ke tlhalosa gore Development Budget ya rona part of Schedule of the Appropriation (2021/2022) Bill, e kwa tlase. Ke tsaya gore gompieno ke e tlhalositse, 2021 (No. 1 of 2021); and the sum of One Billion, Six Mopalamente mongwe le mongwe o nkutlwile gore Hundred and Forty-Five Million, Four Hundred and tota mathata a ntse a le fa kae, re fiwa madi a a kana Five Thousand, Five Hundred and Eighty Seven Pula re sa kgone, le ipotsa gore tota re dira eng ka madi? (P1,645,405,587) for the Organisation’s Development Gompieno ke lekile gore ke tlhatswe kgang e gore ga se Budget, be approved and stand part of the estimates gore re a bo re ile go reka difofane, re tshameka ka madi. for the financial year 2021/2022. I move accordingly. I thank you Mr Chairperson. Honourable Moatlhodi o buile ka tshokolo e retired masole ba leng mo go yone. Rraetsho ke a itse, ke sone MR CHAIRPERSON: We are now voting. se o bonang re eme ka dinao re le lephata, re simolola Military Veteran Affairs Unit gore e leke go lebaleba ASSISTANT MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL dikgang tsa masole a a setseng a tlogetse tiro ka bogodi, AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC re bone gore re ka thusa jang. BDF Council le yone e ADMINISTRATION (MR MTHIMKHULU): lebeletse go bona gore pensions di ka tlhabololwa jang. Mr Chairperson before voting, His Honour the Ke dikgang tse di mo tafoleng, re tsweletse re a di dira Vice President is having problems with network. … fela thata, re leka go bona gore ditiro tse di diragale. (Inaudible)… communicate that to you because he needs to vote by writing on the board here, he cannot … Honourable Makwinja, ke tsaya gore ke ne ke setse ke (Interruptions)… akgetse mo go wena. MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Member, you Honourable Boko, ke a leboga rraetsho. Ke a utlwa, should have just stood on a point of procedure. We got dikgang di teng o di buile. Mme jaaka ke buile ke a message; he sent us a message with… re, gongwe tsa bo Gerrie Nel, o tlaa tla o di bua ka Administration of Justice le Attorney General, ka ke HONOURABLE MEMBER: A ko o tswe mo bone ba ba lebaganeng le tseo. dikgannyeng tse di tshesane.

Ke dumalana le wena gore GBV e tshwanetse gore MR MTHIMKHULU: Thank you Mr Chairperson. jaanong gongwe re bone gore re e tsenya kwa dikoleng, MR CHAIRPERSON: Before we start our voting, go leka gore re rute bana. Education is the best gore re let me announce that we are expecting the Minister of feme bothata jo bo leng kwa pele. Fela jaaka ke boletse, International Affairs and Cooperation to be this side Penal Code, bo eng, re tlaa tswelela re di tlisa mo as well, to avoid unnecessary technical hiccups. So it Palamenteng to get your input. would be best for him to come forward. While you are Legal Practitioners Act; ke a go solofetsa e bile ke a still voting, probably he should come to the Chamber go rurifaletsa gore rraetsho, re mo dipuisanyong le and wait. diagente ka go farologana. Ke sone se o bonang re le fa MINISTER OF INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS AND jaanong re e buseditse kwa morago, mme re tshwere re COOPERATION (DR KWAPE): Mr Chairperson, I a buisana gore re involve mongwe le mongwe. It is an have not had challenges ka our connection ka kwano. So ongoing discussion as I talk to you. Ga re a kgaphela I have set up mo ofising yame. ope kwa thoko, le gompieno ke bua ke papametse ke eme mo Palamenteng gore fa go na le agente mongwe MR CHAIRPERSON: Okay, that is fine Honourable yo o saletseng kwa morago, diofisi tsa rona di teng. Fa a Minister. batla go tla go re gakolola, o ka tla.

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CLERK:

MEMBER’S NAME AYE NO ABSTAIN ABSENT His Excellency Dr Masisi Honourable Autlwetse √ Honourable Balopi Honourable Boko Honourable Brooks Honourable Billy Honourable Dr Dikoloti √ Honourable Dr Dow Honourable Gare Honourable Dr Gobotswang √ Honourable Greeff √ Honourable Hikuama Honourable Kablay Honourable Kapinga √ Honourable Kekgonegile √ Honourable Keorapetse √ Honourable Kereng √ Honourable Kgafela √ Honourable Khama Honourable Dr Kwape √ Honourable Lesedi √ Honourable Lelatisitswe Honourable Lesaso √ Honourable Dr Letsholathebe √

Honourable Letsholo √ Honourable Leuwe √ Honourable Lucas √ Honourable Majaga Honourable Makwinja √ Honourable Manake Honourable Mangwegape-Healy √ Honourable Mathoothe Honourable Dr Matsheka Honourable Mmolotsi √ Honourable Mmusi √ Honourable Moabi Honourable Moagi √ Honourable Moatlhodi √ Honourable Modukanele √ Honourable Mokgethi

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Honourable Molale √ Honourable Molao √ Honourable Molebatsi √ Honourable Monnakgotla √ Honourable Morwaeng √ Honourable Moswaane Honourable Motaosane √ Honourable Motsamai √ Honourable Mthimkhulu √ Honourable Mzwinila √ Honourable Nkawana √ Honourable Rakgare √ Honourable Ramogapi √ Honourable Reatile √ Honourable Regoeng √ Honourable Saleshando √ Honourable Segokgo √ Honourable Serame √ Honourable Shamukuni √ Honourable Thiite √ Honourable Dr Tshabang √ Honourable Tshere √ His Honour The Vice President Tsogwane √ Honourable Lelatisitswe

…Silence…

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)…

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, ga ke le gakolole tlhopho. Fela fa go tlhophiwa, ke le reile ka re le tseye ditlhopho serious. Fela fa gotwe go a tlhophiwa, no one moves from their desk. Jaanong lona fela fa gotwe go a tlhophiwa, le a tswa foo. Fa o sa arabe re go biditse gabedi, we mark you absent. Go ntse fela jalo, le o ntse o le gone foo.

Here are the result of your voting Honourable Members. Batlotlegi ba le 45 ba rile “Aye”. Ga go na motlotlegi ope yo o rileng “No”. Ga go na “Abstain”. Ke na le batlotlegi ba le 18 ba ba neng ba le “Absent.” Therefore, the Ayes have it.

Question put and agreed to.

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Mme ga ke mongwe wa bone Mr Chairperson.

MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, we are going ahead. We are now going to the next item.

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ORGANISATION 1500 - MINISTRY That notwithstanding, we will continue to play a OF INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS AND vanguard role to ensure coordinated engagement with COOPERATION the international community, with a view to advance our collective goal of building a resilient and prosperous MR CHAIRPERSON: Honourable Members, please Botswana, which is at peace with her neighbours and note that 2 hours 25 minutes have been allocated to the world at large. this Organisation and I shall call upon the Honourable Minister to reply to the debates at 4:05 p.m. on Monday, Working in close collaboration with the rest of that is 22nd March, 2021. The question will be put at Government and other actors, the ministry will 4:35 p.m. May I call upon the Minister of International continue to embark on innovative approaches, including Affairs and Cooperation to present. virtual platforms, to continue engagement on social development needs of Botswana, seek Foreign Direct MINISTER OF INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS Investment (FDI), as well as look for international AND COOPERATION (DR KWAPE): Thank you partnerships to support the emerging home-grown Mr Chairperson. Mr Chairperson, I have the honour to entrepreneurship and innovation. present to this Honourable Committee, the Ministry of International Affairs and Cooperation’s Recurrent and Mr Chairperson, one of the main preoccupations of Development Estimates for the financial year (FY) the ministry in this reporting period was the provision 2021/2022, under Organisation 1500. of consular support to Batswana residing abroad. The total proposed budget for the Financial Year Despite immense challenges, the ministry, through its 2021/2022 is Six Hundred Twenty-Three Million, diplomatic missions, worked with other stakeholders to Three Hundred and One Thousand, Three Hundred and provide moral, material and financial support, including Eighty-Three Pula (P623, 301, 383.00). facilitation of their travel back home.

Out of this amount, Five Hundred and Seventy-Nine STATE OF BILATERAL RELATIONS WITH Million, Six Hundred and Ninety-One Thousand, Eight OTHER COUNTRIES Hundred and Eighty Pula (P579, 691,880.00) is for the Recurrent Budget, while Forty-Three Million, Six Mr Chairperson, the ministry played a pivotal role in Hundred and Nine Six Thousand, Five Hundred and facilitating high level engagements with our strategic Three Pula (P43, 609, 503.00) is for the Development partners, aimed at advancing Botswana’s development Budget. aspirations, as articulated in Vision 2036. These OVERVIEW OF THE FINANCIAL YEAR engagements also served to nurture and consolidate our 2020/2021 longstanding relations with our strategic countries.

Mr Chairperson, it is an absolute truth that the financial In keeping with the tradition and the spirit of good year 2020/2021 has been plagued by multifarious neighborliness, and continuous nurturing of our challenges occasioned by COVID-19 pandemic. bilateral relations, Botswana attended the Inauguration It is therefore not surprising that Botswana faces a ceremonies of the Presidents of the Republic of Malawi profoundly uncertain and complex global environment and the United Republic of Tanzania. At this point, Mr which continues to be impacted negatively by the Chairperson, I join the rest of the world in sending our COVID-19 pandemic. Disruptions to global trade and tourism, investment and travel in the prevailing condolences to the passing of the former President of environment, are the order of the day, and are highly the United Republic of Tanzania. His Excellency the inimical to our economic performance. President also undertook working visits to the Democratic Republic of Congo, Malawi, Mozambique, and Namibia Currently, almost all countries across the globe are and will tomorrow also undertake a working visit to the grappling with its devastating impact and are uncertain about recovery in the post COVID era. It is thus Republic of South Africa. Furthermore, following my reasonable to anticipate that competition for investment assumption of the Ministerial portfolio of International and tourism will remain acute, both in the region and Affairs and Cooperation, I reached out virtually to most globally as countries strive to give impetus to their countries in our region and beyond in an effort to further domestic economic growth. cement our relations.

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BILATERAL COOPERATION FRAMEWORKS Mr Chairperson, as you are aware, in August 2020, Botswana was elected to the Chairmanship of the SADC Mr Chairperson, as a ministry, we attach great importance Organ on Politics, Defence and Security Cooperation to Bilateral Cooperation Frameworks as they have for a period of one year. This important role involves proven to be effective instruments for strengthening spearheading initiatives and programmes aimed at strategic partnerships and safeguarding Botswana’s maintaining peace and security in the region. interests at bilateral, regional and global levels. In this regard, His Excellency President Masisi, as th On 7 January 2021, Botswana also signed a Chairperson of the Organ is fully engaged on various Memorandum of Agreement (MoU) on the Belt and complex issues that threaten the stability of our region. Road Initiative with the Peoples Republic of China during the official visit to Botswana by the Chinese Furthermore Mr Chairperson, as part of the Organ Foreign Minister. This is consistent with our strategy to Chairmanship, Botswana led the SADC Virtual enhance cooperation with the emerging markets. Electoral Stakeholders’ Engagements Mission for both Seychelles and Tanzania elections, between 12th October My ministry also facilitated Botswana’s participation and 3rd November 2020. in the negotiations of the new Partnership Agreement between the Organisation of African, Caribbean and As I have already mentioned Mr Chairperson, SADC Pacific States (OACPS) and the European Union (EU), remains fundamental to the development of Botswana which is expected to be signed this year. Botswana and the region at large. It is for this reason that the stands to benefit from this Agreement in a wide range Government of Botswana decided to field a candidate of areas including Information and Communication of the caliber of the current Permanent Secretary to Technology (ICT) and the digital economy, promotion the President, Mr Elias Mpedi Magosi, for the position of citizen empowerment and development of creative of SADC Executive Secretary. With his wealth of industries. experience in executive management in both the public and private sectors, as well as in regional organisations, TRADE, INVESTMENT AND TOURISM Mr Magosi has the requisite credentials to advance PROMOTION the transformation agenda that our regional body has Mr Chairperson, now more than ever, economic embarked upon to accelerate regional integration and diplomacy remains critical to Botswana’s foreign development. policy objectives in light of the far reaching economic CONTINENTAL DEVELOPMENT AGENDA disruptions confronting Botswana and other countries around the world. The ministry in partnership with the Mr Chairperson, my ministry continues to facilitate Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry; Botswana Botswana’s contribution to the African Union (AU) Investment and Trade Centre (BITC) and Botswana Agenda 2063. Our engagement within the African Tourism Organisation (BTO), facilitated a number of Union enables our country to work with others to realise activities to attract Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), the collective vision of an “integrated, prosperous, and promote tourism and seek markets for Botswana’s peaceful Africa.” We also seek to promote Botswana’s produce. influence in the continent in alignment with our interests, values and principles. CONTRIBUTION TO THE REGIONAL INTEGRATION AGENDA CONTRIBUTION TO THE GLOBAL DEVELOPMENT AGENDA Mr Chairperson, the Southern African Development Community (SADC) remains central to Botswana’s Mr Chairperson, Botswana is a staunch proponent of foreign policy. Accordingly, Botswana will continue multilateralism as a means to promote a rules-based to contribute to efforts aimed at strengthening SADC’s international order, which is responsive to the interests regional integration agenda and peace and security of all member states, big or small. Botswana will architecture, in order to attain the goal of sustainable therefore continue to maintain active engagement in development. We also remain vigilant in ensuring that the United Nations System and institutions that foster SADC and its institutions remain on course to deliver a sustainable global peace, development, and security in regional order that benefits all the member states. order to advance our national interests.

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On Botswana’s leadership role in global affairs, His Mr Chairperson, at this juncture, I wish to submit a Excellency the President was appointed as the Global budget proposal of Six Hundred and Twenty-Three Champion for the Vision 2030 Platform. This is a Million, Three Hundred and One Thousand, Three public-private collaboration spearheaded by the World Hundred and Eighty-Three Pula (P623, 301,383.00) Economic Forum (WEF), and aimed at mobilising as a total budget provision for the ministry for the efforts to apply advanced Fourth Industrial Revolution financial year 2021/2022. This represent a decrease of (4IR) technologies to achieve the 2030 Agenda for P135,686,572 or 17.9 per cent of the approved budget Sustainable Development. for the 2020/2021 financial year.

Furthermore, Mr Chairperson, Botswana was elected RECURRENT BUDGET: 2021/2022 as member of the Executive Board of the World Health Organisation (WHO) for the period 2020 to 2023. The Mr Chairperson, the proposed Recurrent Budget for the membership to the WHO Board is beneficial as it affords Financial Year 2021/22 is Five Hundred and Seventy- the country an opportunity to influence decisions on key Nine Million, Six Hundred and Ninety-One Thousand, health issues. Eight Hundred and Eighty Pula only (P579,691,880). This represents an increase of Sixty-Four Million, and DEVELOPMENT AND TECHNICAL Fifty-One Thousand, Seven Hundred and Ninety-One ASSISTANCE Pula (P64,051,791) or 12.42 per cent of the approved budget provision for the financial year 2020/2021. The Mr Chairperson, one of the key objectives of the proposed budget is for both personal emoluments and ministry is to enhance international goodwill and other charges. cooperation with our strategic partners. This continues to pay dividends for the country as demonstrated by the DEVELOPMENT BUDGET PROPOSAL: generous political and material support we receive from 2021/2022 our development partners. Mr Chairperson, the ministry requests an amount of Mr Chairperson, I find it fitting to pay tribute toHis Forty-Three Million, Six Hundred and Nine Thousand, Excellency the President for projecting a balanced Five Hundred and Three Pula only (P43,609,503) foreign policy which has gained Botswana international goodwill and respect. for the Development Budget. The provision reflects a decrease of Seventy-Five Million, Three Hundred Mr Chairperson, allow me also to appreciate the Seventy-Seven Thousand, Two Hundred and Two Pula unrelenting support that we continue to receive from (P75,377,202.00) from the 2020/2021 approved budget. Members of this Honourable House. It is vital that this spirit of partnership and unity in forging our foreign The requested amount will cover the following projects: policy objectives is sustained if we are to make Botswana • the renovation and refurbishment of the Ministry a respected and influential player in world affairs. Office Building, which includes building of new DEVELOPMENT OF FOREIGN POLICY extension joining Block-A and Block-B buildings: DOCUMENT P20, 000, 000.00.

Mr Chairperson, I wish to assure this Honourable • the ongoing project for the construction of Chancery Committee that the process of developing the Building and Diplomatic Apartments in Addis Botswana’s Foreign Policy Document is ongoing though Ababa, Ethiopia: P5, 000, 000.00. behind schedule. It was our intention to have finalised • the renovation of the Embassy Office in China: P5, the draft document before the end of this financial year 000, 000.00 but due to COVID-19 related impediments, our efforts were slowed down. However, we wish to make an • the renovation of four residential properties in undertaking that the codification of the foreign policy Windhoek-Namibia: P5, 000, 000.00 will be completed by June 2021. I have here a working document that shows our commitment to such. • the renovation of six residential properties in Lusaka-Zambia P3, 609, 503.00; PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE FINANCIAL YEAR 2021/2022 • the renovation of the VVIP Lounge: P4, 000, 000.00

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• the renovation of the Old Guest House: P1, 000, important Mr Chairperson. However, we need to be 000.00 more emphatic on commercial diplomacy. Our foreign policy should be more about the economy, particularly CONCLUSION trade and investment. We must focus on development of Mr Chairperson, as I conclude my presentation of the business between countries we relate with. We should 2021/2022 budget proposals, I beg to move that the generate commercial gains in the form of tourism, trade, sum of Five Hundred and Seventy-Nine Million, Six inward and outward investment through cooperation, Hundred and Ninety-One Thousand, Eight Hundred and operations and entrepreneurship promotion and Eighty Pula (P579,691,880) for the Recurrent Budget be facilitation. approved and stand part of the 2021/2022 Appropriation What is the criteria used to open embassies abroad? Bill (No. 1 of 2021) for Organisation Head 1500 and How is the decision to escalate the relations to a Joint that the sum of Forty-Three Million, Six Hundred and Permanent Commission status, taken? Does this apply Nine Thousand, Five Hundred and Three (P43,609,503) to Malawi for instance, and how will Botswana benefit for the Development Budget be approved and stand part from opening an embassy in Malawi? Our considered of the same Schedule of the 2021/2022 Appropriation view Mr Chairperson, is that there has to be a review Bill. I thank you Mr Chairperson. of all our missions to weigh economic interests and key MR CHAIRPERSON: The floor is now open for national strategic interests accrued from each mission. debate. The first speaker will be Honourable Keorapetse. The review will inform us on the costly missions which are not giving us anything and need to be closed, and MR KEORAPETSE (SELEBI PHIKWE WEST): those which should remain and where we need new Ke a leboga Modulasetilo. There has been a long-going missions. debate about the need to codify our foreign policy or strategy for some years now. I hear the Minister saying Mr Chairperson, the Minister should update us on which that COVID-19 has something to do with the delay. I find paradiplomacy, that is people to people partnerships or the reasons unacceptable, in the sense that, in the early initiatives with foreign well-to-do nations are planned 2010/2011, they were still debating the formulation of or initiated. We need this Government to work on foreign policy strategy. Currently the President says that negotiating for more international scholarships by foreign policy is his priority but it appears to be rather international universities, international organisations less in the absence of a strategy or policy. The argument and foreign missions here. has been that we need to identify and put our national On appointment of Envoys Mr Chairperson, what is the values in black and white and that these national values criteria for deploying Envoys and/or foreign officers should inform our national strategic interests which we abroad? Ambassadors, High Commissioners and other will then project to the outside world as foreign policy. Envoys must be esteemed, experienced, knowledgeable If you were to ask Mr Chairperson, which key strategic and people with integrity. It does not look like merit is national interest is our foreign policy anchored on; what a criterion for selection, we submit, rather these public would be the answer from the Minister? Is there any service positions like other positions in Government, codified document which can provide these answers? it would seem are distributed as patronage in a neo- The Government should formulate and codify our patrimonialism or clientelism system, in which party foreign policy, categorise our national interests in functionalists and other loyalists are rewarded. relation to our bilateral relations with, say China and/or Mr Chairperson, career diplomats are endangered by the United States of America (USA) according to their this system. Opposition Members and supporters are categories of compatibility, specificity and importance. side-lined even if they qualify. The system does not Compatibility speaks to whether they are complementary make sense at all. How do you justify appointments of or conflicting. Specificity about whether they are pensioners and retirees to complex and serious missions, specific or general importance. Assessing whether the overlooking younger, dynamic, knowledgeable and interests could be classified as either survival, vital, professional Batswana? We also have experts that major, secondary or peripheral. the country has trained at great expense and they are Commercial Diplomacy; Cultural, Parliamentary, overlooked when it comes to diplomatic positions. Economic, Public and Military Diplomacy are all How do you do this and expect our country to be taken

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seriously by these countries? Appointment to complex South Africa Mr Chairperson, is the regional political mission such as New York, Brussels, Geneva etcetera, and economy hegemon, we need to be very careful about should be based on expertise of both Heads of Missions things we say and do in relation to South Africa. The and staff. What is the criteria for appointing Honorary baseless accusations against the Motsepes, a prominent Consuls Honourable Minister, and how many do we African National Congress (ANC) and business have so far? What demonstrable benefit have we derived family and commercial banks in South Africa, and from them? the engagement of Gerrie Nel, Afri-Forum associated lawyer, these things have a potential to strain relations On Batswana in the international civil service; I must with South Africa. I believe the trip by His Excellency convey the Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC)’s the President to South Africa will try and do what we support for Rre Magosi as the country try to get him call a détente because clearly our relations with South to lead the SADC as Executive Secretary. Batswana in Africa are not the same. the international civil service should be taken seriously, Government must do more to assist citizens to get into In conclusion, I would like to know if there is positions, and be in touch with them to assist with a view coordination between the Government communication to protect national interests. Serving in regional and units, ya ga Rre Leagajang le Rre Sesinyi and Ministry international organisations Mr Chairperson, comes with of International Affairs and Cooperation in issuing national pride, flying the flag high, power and influence, statements on foreign policy matters? This is a critical as well as commercial gain. Other countries dominate question which you must answer honestly. Let us the international civil service while we are behind. Let choose our friends wisely, birds of the same feather us make it part of our foreign policy strategy, to make flock together, this is what I was taught by Rre Julius sure that Batswana get into key positions. It starts with Otukile, my English teacher kwa Meepong. Some of our education and training in areas such as International newly found friends are highly suspicious characters Relations, International Administration, International and have no international reputation. We will soon be Law, International Trade, International Political painted with the same brush. It is important that we reset Economy, Public Health and many others and providing our foreign policy, codify it and be clear on our strategic opportunities for experience. national interest anchored on our national values.

The President and his Government should not only It is vital to have linkages between foreign and campaign for their own preferred candidates as it is national security policy taken into consideration, in the case with Rre Magosi, they should exhibit the same the formulation of our foreign policy. Let us work on vigour even if those running for positions are Members strengthening old alliances, forming new and serious of Opposition political parties, or ordinary Batswana. partnerships and let us revamp our role in international We cannot always reap where we have not sowed, by institutions to advance our interests, especially economic ululating and appreciating only when a Motswana out prosperity. Let us not alienate our foreign friends and let of their own volition, own efforts gets an international us avoid stalking unnecessary fires. position. Let us deliberately plan for our people, let us protect them from internal politics of these organisations. With these remarks Honourable Chairperson, I wish Rre Magosi the best of luck in trying to represent us It is very important also Mr Chairperson, to be kwa SADC. We have been the host of this regional transparent in terms of the criteria used to select organisation for long, go tsile bo Rre Simba Makoni, those that we project as our crème de la crème to try Rre Kaire Mbuende, Tomaz Salomão, Stergomena and get them senior international positions, like in the Lawrence Tax. It is now our turn. It is our turn and I position of Rre Magosi. I know many Batswana with commend the efforts by His Excellency the President PhDs in International Relations, with wide experience, to be campaigning for Rre Magosi, but let us be International Law, International Political Economy who transparent about the selection criterion. I thank you Mr have much more experience than Rre Magosi. This is Chairperson. not to say I do not support him, I do, we all do, but it is important to be transparent in terms of selection MR BROOKS (KGALAGADI SOUTH): Thank criterion, so that we get our very best, best of the best, you Mr Chairperson. Ke itebaganye le dikgang tsa ga and we can only do this if we are more open about the Honourable Dr Kwape, tsa International Affairs and criteria. Cooperation. Mr Minister, re go leboga thata rraetsho

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mo tirong e ntle e o e dirang. Kana fa o le Tona mo ADJOURNMENT ministry o, o tshwaragane le namane e tona ya tiro. LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Mma ke simolole fela ka go go eleletsa masego le Yes, I am here Mr Speaker. Although I cannot appear on matlhogonolo. Re na le tsholofelo e ntsi mo go wena the screen because I had a running problem the whole segolo jang Tona mo go lomaganyeng le go tshwaraganya of this afternoon. I suspect it is sabotage from one of the mafatshe otlhe, o dira gore lefatshe la Botswana e nne minority parties. lefatshe le le itsegeng ka bonokopila le bontle jwa lone. MR SPEAKER: Leader of the House, pass the Motion Mma ke tlhamalale fela ke ye kwa kgannyeng e ke reng of adjournment. ke bue ka yone, ke ntse ke tsweletse ka go etla ke go ema nokeng mo kopong ya gago ya madi a monongwaga. Ke MR TSOGWANE: Mr Speaker, since we have come to re rraetsho maikaelelo kana kakanyo ya me ke gore a the end of today’s business, I move that this House do ko o itshwaraganye le ministries tse re lebileng ka kwa now adjourn. ntle gore di tle di kgone go re thusa ka go tsosolosa Question put and agreed to. itsholelo. Fa re bua ka ministry o o eteletsweng pele ke Mme Kereng ke nngwe ya ministries tse re itseng gore The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until matlho otlhe a ka kwa ntle gore ba tle go re thusa go Friday 19th March, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. tsosolosa thulaganyo ya bojanala. Ba tle mo lefatsheng la Botswana ka maatlametlo, ba tle ka bontsintsi jo bo kalokalo. Tshwaragana le ene o tle o mo thuse.

Fa ke bua ke tlhamaletse, re na le tumalano e re e dirileng le Aferika Borwa re bua ka Kgalagadi Trans-Frontier Park e e saleng e dirilwe ka ngwaga ole, fa ke sa fose ke wa 2002 ke bo Tautona ba pele. Re eletsa go bona re tshwaraganye thata. Go dilo tse dintsi tse re ipotsang gore a ditumalano tseo tota di tsamaya sentle, a ke tse e leng gore di ka re busetsa re le lefatshe le Botswana. Re lebile mo go wena re le banni ba Kgalagadi ba e leng gore this very park, 100 per cent if not 90 per cent e mo lefatsheng la Kgalagadi. Re eletsa go bona le tsentse leitlho thata mo tomaganong le tshwaragano eo gore re se ka ra fitlhela re saletse kwa morago.

Re nale tumelo ya gore nako e gorogile, re na le dingwaga tse di fetang masome a matlhano re le lefatshe re ipusa re dikologilwe ke mafatshe a tshwana bo Aferika Borwa le bo Namibia kwa e leng gore re tshwaraganetse dinoka di tshwana le bo Molopo, Two Rivers. Ka leina le lengwe ba re ke Tween Rivieren. Dinoka tse rraetsho di sale di emisitswe ka nako ele ya mebuso ya tlhaolele ya mafatshe a mabedi ao. Jaanong nako e gorogile ya gore…

MR SPEAKER (MR PULE): Order! Order! Honourable Member, the time is up. I will now call upon the Leader of the House to pass a Motion of adjournment. Honourable Leader of the House, are you there?

MOTION

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