Twenty small sailboats to take you anywhere pdf Continue John Vigor has been sailing for more than 40 years in boats ranging from 11 to 72 feet, logging 15,000 miles of ocean voyaging. He is the author of seven marine books, and makes articles in Cruise World, SAIL, and Yachting monthly. I read John Vigor Twenty Small Sailboats take you anywhere. It seems like a great book for someone like me who wants to buy a small first proper boat that I don't have to trade if/when I want to go out into the oceans. The problem is only about five boats are available in the UK second-hand market as far as I can tell. So what would you put in the equivalent book based on the designs available here? Vigor's criteria were: Ocean-capable Crossing Price of 2,000 to 30,000 pounds 20 feet to 32 feet LOD Go Last edit: 19 February 2010 Based more on reading than actual experience, the usual choice will be something like: Albin Vega Contessa 26 Invicta 26 Halcyon Coast 27 South Design One Design 8m Thank you. To avoid a repeat, I might note the book covers Albin Vega, Contessas 26 and 32, Francis/Morris 26, Folkboat and Nicholson 31. I'll look at the others. Vancouver 27 or 28 will be on my list. I believe John Vigor's book includes Catalina 27. In Europe it is called Jaguar 27 and they are widely available. There is a trend on this list to modern versions of old-fashioned long keel designs while in fact there are many more modern designs that have been successfully used for oceans voyaging. With a budget of 30,000 pounds, there is a huge choice. Those still offered are all limited in placement, so it's only very suitable for one gear or a cozy spartan two gear. Many are willing to put up with this as they believe it is offset by excellent seakeeping - or low cost, minimal maintenance, etc. Interesting almost no one builds this type of boat anymore and none of them will reach the RCD category! (If it's important for potential to go anywhere travelers) I believe John Vigor's book includes Catalina 27. In Europe it is called Jaguar 27 and they are widely available. Thanks, just read about it now. Vigor seems to think it's a bit of a boundary to oceangoing capabilities if you really, really know what you're doing. Don't forget Cutlass 27 There is a trend on this list to modern versions of old-fashioned long keel designs while in fact there are many more modern designs that have been successfully used for ocean voyaging. With a budget of 30,000 pounds, there is a huge choice. Those still offered are all limited in placement, so it's only very suitable for one gear or a cozy spartan two gear. Many are willing to put up with it because they believe it It is interesting that almost no one builds this type of boat anymore, and none of them will be RCD Category A! (If it's important for potential to go anywhere for travelers) the Vigor limit was 30,000 pounds (well $50,000), my more like 20,000 pounds, preferably half of that. And I look at one and the short hand. But obviously it's a very early days for me, so I'm interested in a little more expensive boats for general discussion purposes. Who knows, I can get a take-off. And obviously the more expensive boats of the same date/model can save a bit by half as much-again I was told I should allow to sort it out. Last edited: 19 February 2010 I'm sure all kinds of boats will make it through (but may not be suitable on paper). Didn't Etap 26 do the ARC a few years ago? So: Etap 26 Leisure 27 Leisure 23 (one made Atlantic and Pacific recently) Cobra 850 Corryby Shipman 28 Ruffian 23 Seamaster 815 Obviouslly I'm biased, but as you bring the budget down and expand your wants it continues pointing at Albin Vega .. Look at the website www.albinvega.co.uk think you'll be surprised. Ask Webcraft about his travels with his Vega. More than 20 of them skirted and innumerable crossed the Atlantic. Sleeps 4, but 3 is OK and 2 is very comfortable. Steve B I read John Vigor's Twenty Small Sailboats take you anywhere. It seems like a great book for someone like me who wants to buy a small first proper boat that I don't have to trade if/when I want to go out into the oceans. The problem is only about five boats are available in the UK second-hand market as far as I can tell. So what would you put in the equivalent book based on the designs available here? Vigor's criteria were: Capable of crossing the ocean Price from 2000 to 30,000 pounds from 20 feet to 32 feet LOD Go Vertue, or Vertue II. Gaud, only 20? There must be 50 UK boats available in that price bracket that will do the job, don't panic ! For a start I think something built by a reputable builder like Halmatic (shape), Westerly, marine projects and rival (southern shipbuilding?). Then there are all continental. And don't forget that Bavaria is actually quite amazing. One model noted that I would reject this Catalina (Jaguar) 27. Drinking tea on one that was sailed windward from the states to Puerto Rico, I was horrified by the very real distortion deck, chain slabs, basic bulkheads, etc., just from the mast load. Mebbe British ones used heavier laminate though? Nicholson 26 is a capable cape boat. Some have crossed the pond I believe Nicholson 32 is a great sea boat. Maybe it's worth looking at Sigma33 OD not OOD. The OD has a mast head installation and a longer but shorter keel. I know one who has swam NAAB more than once and believe record others doing some long-distance sailing. The price would be about right, although not sure how much was done. Aphrodite101 Nicholson 32 Rival 32 Nantucket Clipper Sadler32 Sadler32 Rustler31 She 31/32 Contest 30 Elizabeth 29/30 Contessa 32 Golden Hind 31 Hustler30 Pioneer 9m Trintella 29 Achilles 840 Moodys and Westerlis are all capable. Let's not forget the huge number of wooden boats also out there, of which there are too many to mention. Favored will be a twister or Vega to keep it small and simple. Albin Vega - pros and cons. Vega is a well-tested solution for affordable blue water crusing. We dabbled with a trip to the Canary Islands and the Azores, so FWIW here are my thoughts on the pros and cons of this particular type: PROS ----- - simple, well built, not so much to go wrong, not prone to osmosis and encapsulated long keel with a cut-out of the foot is IMO optimal body shape, Combining excellent speed for water length with good seafaring qualities - Great pleasure to sail - generally no pedestrian Outdoor accommodation (no table charts or extensive galley) means there is plenty of living space and an airy feel lower - More space The front part than many 33 footers - proper space double bed means you have proper own cabins in the harbour or anchor - Good self-draining cabins, side decks big enough to go forward safely , capacious stacking in the cabin lockers and infirmary - An excellent ventilation system built in by the designer means that the boat stays dry inside - more than 3000 built - always somewhat on the market, loads of tips, support and spare parts from the Owners Association - Excellent value for money, if you choose the right one CONS ------ - Only 5' 7 permanent stock - good for us as we are (halcyon 27 has the best stock) - No table charts - although many people built a solution, while others did not believe that this is a problem , Gully usually did not get the oven if the layout was changed. Again, we didn't find that problem during the year we lived on board and Windows are a known weakness in knockdown/survival situations. Some replace them with alu frames, we made stormboards (cheap and easy). The original (Volvo) engines and the crazy Combi feed gears are usually worn out and should be discarded - ideally look for one where the previous owner is already re-motored or be prepared to do so before you leave. The anchor locker is a bit small - we almost managed to cram the 35m chain and 20m strain into our ------------------------- hope it's useful perhaps people with other types in this category (cheap livea/blueboard potential) can post similar lists of pros and cons. - W may be worth a look at Sigma33 OD not OOD. The OD has a mast head installation and a longer but shorter keel. I know one who swam NAAB more than once and believe there are records of others doing long- distance sailing. The price would be about right, although not sure how much was done. The only quality that MH Sigma33 has that OOD lacks is the ability to go everywhere slowly. In B The 1970s was still resisting among some killed in wool cruisers fractional installation, so sell a few more hulls of marine projects cobbled together cruise version, with lower standard installation and deck gear. Ask David Thomas, who is the best boat.