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(https://www.conservativehome.com) Search the site (https://www.conservativehome.com/frontpage/2018/10/newslinks- (/) for-tuesday-9th-october-2018.html) ToryDiary (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/thetorydiary) Columnists (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/thecolumnists) Comment (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/platform) MPs ETC (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/parliament) Local Government (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/localgovernment) Majority (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/majority_conservatism) LeftWatch (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/leftwatch) Think Tanks (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/thinktankcentral) Audio (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/audio) Video (https://www.conservativehome.com/category/video) Published: October 9, 2018 60 comments Interview. David Owen’s Brexit plan. Move from transition through the EEA into Canada Plus Plus Plus – before the next election. By Andrew Gimson (https://www.conservativehome.com/author/andrew-gimson) Follow @AndrewGimson 3,214 followers Last updated: October 9, 2018 at 1:17 pm David Owen says Theresa May “has been badly advised and seems unaware” of “a complete error of a very serious kind”, as Number Ten tries to pretend we are not staying in the European Economic Area during her Brexit plan. Owen releases recent letters between himself and the Prime Minister (http://www.lorddavidowen.co.uk/category/eu- and-brexit/) which in his view demonstrate “that the machinery around her can make an elementary mistake” and is “pushing out disinformation”. He laments that the Government contains “not one single person in a senior position who’s had long experience of negotiating with the EU. Not one! Not one! They have a team of people who are inexperienced on EU negotiations, and some of them have never before done anything in this area.” In the early 1970s Owen was one of the Labour rebels who Related Articles voted with Edward Heath to take Britain into the Common Market, from 1977-79 he served as Foreign Secretary, in the Tony Hockley: Taking back control early 1980s he belonged to the “Gang of Four” who left Labour of agriculture must mean and founded the SDP, and in 2016 he campaigned for Vote empowering local communities, not Leave in the EU Referendum. He has written numerous books, Whitehall including Hubris – The Road to Donald Trump (https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2018/10/tony- (http://www.lorddavidowen.co.uk/wp- hockley-taking-back-control-of- content/uploads/2018/09/2018-AI-Hubris.pdf), which will be agriculture-must-mean- published by Methuen on 1st November. In the interests of empowering-local-communities- full disclosure I should add that I am his godson. not-whitehall.html) The editor of ConHome commissioned this interview in order Davis writes to Conservative MPs, to establish how the former Foreign Secretary thinks the warning of “dire” electoral News Tweets Prime Minister should approach the final Brexit negotiations. consequences of Chequers A Twitter list by @PaulGoodmanCH (https://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2018/10/davis- Owen dismisses as “vainglorious” the idea of leaving the EU writes-to-conservative-mps- Chris Deerin without a deal, observes that there would be no Commons @chrisdeerin warning-of-dire-electoral- majority for doing so, and begins by outlining the changes consequences-of-chequers.html) Me for @NewStatesman on Sturgeon at which he is urging May to make in order to achieve a Canada #SNP2018: an honourable speech plus plus plus deal, including “no full payment of the £38 Penny Mordaunt: “The more we do, newstatesman.com/politics/scotl… billion” until a timetable for such a deal has been agreed. the more we trade, and the less demand there will then be for aid.” ConHome: “You’re well known for pushing this idea of joining Her development speech: full text. the EEA and then moving to Canada plus – is it too late for (https://www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2018/10/penny- that? After all, negotiating anything takes time.” mordaunt-the-more-we-do-the- Owen: “A staged Brexit should be built into the Withdrawal more-we-trade-the-more-we-trade- Agreement, which is a very substantial document already, and the-less-demand-there-will-be-for- deals with almost all the immediate issues that we would aid-her-development-speech-full- otherwise face coming out without an agreement. text.html) Nicola Sturgeon’s grown up conference… Though some Nats are straining at the lea… “And part of that agreement has a 21-month pause in which in WATCH: Baker on how, if the newstatesman.com the words of the footnote to Article 124 of the Withdrawal backstop problem can be solved, Agreement reads the UK is considered still to be a member of Canada Plus Plus Plus is the natural 1m the EU. And yet this ‘vassal state’ deal as described by Jacob Brexit negotiation solution Rees-Mogg has been accepted by most hard-line Brexiteers. (https://www.conservativehome.com/video/2018/10/watch- Nick Cohen baker-on-how-if-the-backstop- “And it means that for 21 months we are almost in what you @NickCohen4 problem-can-be-solved-canada- might call purdah. We are technically assumed to be still Replying to @NickCohen4 plus-plus-plus-is-the-natural-brexit- members of the EU, although we are not, but we are given a 8. If you're an ambitious security service officer negotiation-solution.html) very good standstill period which goes beyond EEA, it deals do you really want to take all the flak from left and with banks and it deals with almost everything. How the Monster of the Berlaymont right doing your duty would bring. Better to decide could become the Monster of No thatEmbed the great British public should notView worry on theirTwitter “So I think we should keep to the Withdrawal Agreement, we Deal tiny little heads about matters that are none of should negotiate everything we can within the framework of (https://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2018/10/how- the Withdrawal Agreement, and we should try to, in the the-monster-of-the-berlaymont- Highlights Latest Comments Withdrawal Agreement, timetable everything on the basis of could-become-the-monster-of-no- achieving Canada plus plus plus. deal.html) How the Monster of the Berlaymont could “Which is Tusk’s wording, not our wording now. Tusk has said become the Monster of No Deal he offers a Canada plus plus plus – three plusses. (https://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2018/10/how- the-monster-of-the-berlaymont-could- “In those three plusses you would hope to take some elements of the agreed 21-month standstill. become-the-monster-of-no-deal.html) Hopefully I would argue that we should drop vassal status and be a full member of the EFTA pillar of governance of the EEA as soon as that 21-month period starts. October 9, 2018 “The EU may refuse. Why did they put us in this purdah period with no voice or vote? Probably, to be Interview. David Owen’s Brexit plan. Move blunt, they didn’t trust us. They thought we would use formal membership as a non-EU member of the from transition through the EEA into Canada EEA to block some of their regulations. Plus Plus Plus – before the next election. “But I’m a pragmatist. This has been accepted by the Conservative MPs, accepted by Boris, accepted by (https://www.conservativehome.com/highlights/2018/10/interview- David Davis. So I’d accept settling for that, leave it. with-david-owen-theresa-may-has-been-very- badly-advised-about-brexit-and-should-now- “But when that 21-month period elapses, in no way will you have got near to a Canada plus plus plus embrace-the-eea-in-order-to-end-up-with- free trade agreement. What are we going to do? Just carry on in this semi-purdah? canada-plus-plus-plus.html) “And the answer is nobody’s filled this in. So we must fill it in. We must know what’s going to happen. It October 9, 2018 is in our interests to extend this standstill period until we have a Canada plus plus plus agreement. Yet during this period from 21 months we must become a full non-EU member of the EEA with the other The Moggcast. Universal Credit – “You would three. And assume their full rights. save money if you funded it properly”. (https://www.conservativehome.com/highlights/2018/10/the- “One of the things that would then happen during that period is that we would be able to start our moggcast-universal-credit-you-would-save- independent fishing policy, which is important in dealing with the pressures we’re coming under in money-if-you-funded-it-properly.html) Scotland and in the fishing areas. And we would be able to start on our agricultural policy. October 9, 2018 “But apart from these two areas, the rest of the standstill period would hold. But we’d cease to be a vassal state, and we’d be heading where we want to be, which is out. Amber Rudd: Our responsibility to the next “Then we would have to write in to the Withdrawal Agreement that there would be no full payment of generation requires us to tackle climate the £38 billion until we had reached an agreement on Canada plus plus plus. That should ideally be in change 2022. Three years until an FTA is in place is on the optimistic side but it is realistic as we are already (https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2018/10/amber- party to the EU-Canada Agreement and we start negotiating with the EU from a common position. rudd-honouring-our-responsibility-to-the- next-generation-means-tackling-climate- “So I do not accept – and nor should the UK Government – that Canada plus plus will take eight, ten change.html) years, six years, and I think it’s a farce to contemplate such a timescale.