Roache/Roach/Roche/Roch

Cambro-Irish Timeline

Jim Roache

Men of rank among them speedily adopted the language and habits of their Norman allies, but later, Introduction in , some took on Irish ways - much to the displeasure of the Crown in London (usually absent on Of all the Norman-Flemish families, the Roches can the continent) - and much to their subsequent claim the earliest connection with Ireland through disadvantage as history shows. Richard FitzGodebert de Roch. This Flemish Knight - son of Godebert Flendrensis of Rhos, Pembrokeshire, Rodebert's sons were considered to have gone on to Wales - was recruited as a mercenary by Irish King found the major branches of the family in southern Dermot MacMurrough to follow him back to Ireland in Ireland. That is a perception that one can understand AD 1167 to assist in his civil war against the O'Rourkes in an historical context. Adam is credited by Sir and the O'Connors. They came to stay in AD 1169 by Bernard Burke (C.B. LL.D, Ulster King of Arms, 1866) invitation , not invasion! with founding the Fermoy, North dynasty. By others, such as the Cork Historical and Archaeological Richard and Rodebert (not Robert) were the sons of Society, 1933, a much later David is credited - through Godebert [de Roch] of Flanders and were important marriage and a series of successfully defended figures in helping MacMurrough - by invitation and lawsuits launched by his in-laws. His is merely the treaty - in his Civil War with the O'Rourkes and second in a number of variations on this theme and O'Connors. has de Rupe married to a female of the de Clare line - de Clare who had been out of favour with both Henry Richard's son may have been the father or I & II and only redeemed himself by joining Henry II in grandfather of Crusader Alexander de Roch who putting down a rebellion by his own sons. The endowed Selskar Abbey in Wexfordtown. Redebert's Fermoy lineage has been a sword in the side of the sons were David, Henry and Adam -- all to become English and family historians ever since! There are known by the surname de Roch(e); in Latin de Rupe; clearly other contenders as first Viscount Fermoy and in Irish de Roiste; and confused with the Norman de la many other branches of the family/surname Roche in Ireland and . throughout the British Isles and Western Europe.

This was possibly in imitation of the more socially and Adam's brother David was a trusted associate of the politically elite Normans; because of the marriage of famous Knight William Marschal in and came one of the female de Roch family, Johanna, to David to own a vast estate in Fernegenal, later Rochesland de la Roche of Langwym, Wales; or simply because of (now Shelmalier East). The Roch(e) family seat was at the usual merging and blurring of similar names which Artramont, today a small civil parish located in the is familiar to all family historians. southeast quadrant of Co. Wexford, about 15 miles northwest of Wexfordtown. This land, which The Chronicle of the Princes (Brut y Tywsogyon) stretched north almost to was later records that the Normans first arriving in Wales to shared (sub-infeudiated for knight's fees) with David defend the March (border) were French speaking. But Sinnott so that part of it became known as Sinnott's in approx AD 1105, King Henry I moved a colony from Land. Flanders to settle in Rhos and Dauglleddau in Dyfed, Pembroke(shire). The Flemish-Cambro-Norman By process of elimination, one might conclude that Roches may have been among them, however, there Henry de Roch’s descendants founded the merchant are other sources that say Godebert was born in Roch families in . Not so - there seems to be no (y Garne) in c AD 1096. There had been Flemish reliable information on him. There is a story of one of warriors with the Conqueror in AD 1066, and the that name also appearing in Fermoy, of course, but Flemish had most certainly been in the Isles at least a honestly, I defy anyone to sort out all the conflicting century before the Conquest for a number of reasons. and overlapping claims - given that there were later specialists - "antiquarians" - hired specifically by rich 2 and landed families to dress up pedigrees. The family pay the price they had earlier exacted of the Anglo- prospered for a time and integrated with the , Saxons in England and the Celts of Ireland and Wales - but lost much by siding with the or - subjugation at the hands of an all-powerful enemy. the Irish over time, e.g. the Cromwellian Confiscation But they did not go down easily, and that is what which saw Artramont go to one of Cromwell's officers, matters. a Le Hunte.

It was Phillip de Pendergast who persuaded Godebert's sons, Richard and Rodebert, the Fitz Godeberts (de Roch), to try their luck in Ireland after MacMurrough struck a deal of sorts with their bankrupt overlord, Richard Fitz Gilbert de Clare. Fernegenal (Shelmalier East) was originally granted to Philip, but passed to the Roch(e)s c AD1180 in addition to their other holdings. Ui Mealla () also passed from de Pendergast to de Roch(e) a hundred years later.

This sort of transaction, under the feudal system, would of course keep the families in arms (knights' fees) for centuries. Wexford is fairly straightforward. It is the rest of Ireland that causes me frustration. Even in Wales, as later in Ireland, decisions could be based in Brehon or Gaelic law, respectively, or the more continental FEUDAL system. Even this ignores Canon Law which was always in the background. Under the feudal system, everything could revert to the King, and that is why there were many attempts to avoid it and conflicting decisions have left an almost irresolvable mess when it comes to claims.

Since Maurice de Pendergast was number two "on the ground" in Ireland after FitzStephen, we can safely assume that the de Rochs were with one or both during the so-called Invasion. Of course, there was no "invasion" in the usual sense of the term, as explained elsewhere. But de Rupe names (Latin variation) appear as co-signatories to various deeds and other documents shortly thereafter.

The Cambro-Normans quickly integrated in Ireland first by conquest and then through marriage and military alliance, adopting the local language and culture....something that was looked at with suspicion from London and Dublin and which would cost them dearly for centuries.

Already Catholic, they intermarried on a regular basis with the Irish (Celts/Gaels) and later resisted Anglo- Saxonization by use of arms during the Cromwell sorties and the Reformation. They would, however,

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killed) by the O'Rourkes and O'Connors at Kellistown near Carlowtown. 1131 1169 As outlined above, Godebert of Flanders, was deemed to be a "Fleming" who settled in Roch Parish, Wales and was Rodebert FitzGodebert de Roch, Richard's brother, and granted lands previously owned by Lambert Echiners (now others in the extended family, took part in the full-scale Lambton) in Pembroke(shire). While purportedly of Flemish landing at Bay under their overlord, Maurice de descent, the family is supposed to have adopted the Prendergast, and expedition leader, Robert FitzStephen. of their Norman allies. Rodebert would gain a large estate in south Wexford (after Godebert's overlords were the de Pendergasts, also from the fall of the town that year) for his trouble. Flanders. Both Roche (Rhoose/Ros) and Pendergast are placenames in Wales. And both, in turn were under the de Clares. If the de Clares were Norman, I see no evidence that 1170-72 either family, both entirely respectable, adopted anything from them - because they were anything but respectable in de Rochs continued to participate actively in many aspects Wales or Ireland. of the Cambro-Norman Invasion. By 1171, Strongbow, Earl Land in medieval times was held in return for "knight's of Pembroke, was in control of vast territories including fees" - ownership was reserved in the King. An occupier of Dublin, Waterford and Wexford and had granted tracts of the King's land had in return for the right to enjoy his land to his supporters (provided they could take them from estates to provide fighting men on demand to his monarch the current owners). or overlord. As in many other matters, the Brehon or Gaelic traditions were somewhat different, and it often begged 1171: Armed with a second Papal Bull by Alexander III - the question of where one's loyalty lay or should lie, if one Henry II arrives in Ireland austensibly to do penance for the were to survive. Over time, some went one way, others murder of Thomas a Beckett; another and some tried to straddle the fence. In fact, his mission was to keep Strongbow under control; Later efforts by the Roches in North Cork to link themselves de Clare submitted (as did all major Irish Clerics). The de to de Rochville who came with the Conqueror in AD 1066 to Clares were granted , but enough was taken and England (Roll of Battle Abbey) remain in doubt. De Rochville reassigned to more loyal retainers that Henry felt he had was granted a lordship in Pembrokeshire, but any eliminated the possibility of another Norman Kingdom suggested link to Godebert is tenuous. Even the Fermoy might challenge his hegemony. Away he went, never to Roches, at least until the Viscounts were eliminated, must return. settle for being of the family deemed "Flemish" in origin and abandon any further pretension. To my mind, preceding or following in the wake of the Conquest will 1172 suffice. Rodebert's Fitz Godebert's three sons - David, Henry and Adam - accepted the spelling de Roch in Old French or

Saxon and de Rupe/de Rupella in Latin [de Roch/de la 1154: Henry II 1154-1189 (first Angevin) - ascended the Roche] as appears on a charter by which they gave the English Throne. The same year Adrian IV, (Nicholas Island of Begerin in Wexford Harbour, with a Chapel Breakspeare, an Englishman) ascended the Papal Throne. already built - St. Nicholas Exeter - to the Roman Catholic 1155: A Papal Bull to Conquer Ireland was sent to Henry via Church for the soul of their father Rodebert, son of John of Salisbury; it was considered by Parliament at Godebert. Maurice de Prendergast was one of many Winchester and set aside. witnesses to the document.

1167

Richard FitzGodebert de Roch, Knight, accompanied Dermot McMurrough to Ireland from Pembrokeshire, Wales - an advance party for the later much larger invasion in 1169. Richard was in command of a number of Norman, Flemish and Welsh mercenaries who tasted defeat (25 men 4

some time thereafter. However, it should be noted that the family spent most of its time at Benton Castle, when it was

not at Pill. We know for certain that some are in fact buried Richard I [1189-99] and John [1199-1216] at Pill as well.

1199 1200s

Adam de Roch founded Pill Priory in Pembrokeshire [date 1206- disputed]. His wife was Blandina, and they had a son Adam and one named David (for his brother). He gave Peter de la Roch(e), Peter de RUPIBUS [Pierre des ROCHES], considerable lands to the Church before his death. I am Bishop of Winchester, 1206-38 was from Poitou. much pleased that this Priory was placed on a new (de Consecrated in Rome, he was a true warrior cleric whose nova) site, as opposed to a Brehon one being destroyed oppressions and exactions were among the causes of the first. It was also dedicated to the Virgin and a Celtic Saint, uprisings by some nobles. In 1214, after John's submission Budoc. It was the first such institution that accepted to the Pope, and while the were preparing for the Welshmen for admission to the Order. All of this seems struggle which ended in the Great Charter (Magna Carta), incredibly "enlightened" for the times. he was made Grand Justiciary of England. In 1226, Peter, together with William Brewer, Bishop of David de Rupe (de Roch) received a King's grant of Exeter, led Crusaders from England to the Holy Land. Upon Rosselihir (now Rosslare), Co Wexford. Another name his return after five years, he almost provoked rebellion by Eustace de Rupe appears in charters and land grants in this his patronage of foreigners, his countrymen (Poitevins), post-invasion period - no more is known of him. giving them the chief Offices of State and Royal revenues. His relationship with William Mareschal, of such fine Anglo-Norman, William de la Roche, had lands and reputation in England and Ireland, was based on their reputation on both the English and French sides of the protection of the boy - King, Henry III. Peter had crowned Channel and figured largely in the politics of the day. In young Henry, aged nine and worked closely with 1199, during a minor siege at Châlus in Limousin, RICHARD Mareschal, who acted as regent, and later (unwillingly) with I, KING OF ENGLAND, was killed by a crossbow bolt and famous Justiciary, Hubert de Burgh, to protect the child and died there intestate 6 April 1199. He was buried at his Norman dynasty for many years. Fontevrault Abbey (Maine-et-Loire), France.

In 1204 his widow, Bérengère, ceded all her rights to the Chateau-du-Loir to Guillaume des Roches [William de la 1207 Roche] (1165-1222), in exchange of the ville of le Mans, its dependencies and 1,000 marks sterling. William was thus David de Rupe (the first to take the name de la Roche) was Seneschal of Anjou from AD 1199 to 1222 and Lord of granted the cantred of Rosscarberry (Ross) by King John. Longue-Jumelle and Château-du-loir. During King John's This superceded the claims of native chief O'Driscoll, but reign, he was deemed one of the ablest and most powerful the Episcopal manors were left undisturbed. Within a of the Angevin barons and was Seneschal (King's hundred years, the value of the bishop's dwelling was 26 representative) in Anjou and Touraine. marks, while the cathedral was valued at 3 marks; and the tribal revenue of the see was but 45 pounds sterling. The number of parishes was 29, divided into 3 divisions; and

there was a Cistercian abbey, Carrigilihy (de fonte vivo) plus NOTE: There was considerable movement between England, a Benedictine Priory at St. Mary's, Ross. Wales, Ireland, Scotland, and most notably, the continent, at this time for military purposes - land was held by Knight's David was closely associated with the famous Sir William Fees under the Feudal system. If you held a land grant, you Mareschal, who later acted as regent for the young Henry had to provide men to fight at the pleasure of the Crown. III until he reached maturity. About this time, David divided Shelmalier East between himself and kinsman David Roch Castle remained in our hands until the last of us, FitzAdam Sinad (Sinnott), also of Flemish descent. Thomas, died early in the 1400s leaving only two daughters. One married Lord Ferrers of Chartley and the other Sir George Longueville of Wolverton. Ultimately by about 1600, 1212 the property was in the hands of the Earls of Essex by descent from the Ferrers and Longuevilles. Alexander FitzHugh founded Bridgetown Abbey in north In 1601, it was purchased by William Walter of Essex who Cork which later came under the protection of the Roches lost possession in the Cromwellian Civil War (1640s). He and remained intimately connected with the Roches of died without recompense and the castle sank into decay for Fermoy for centuries. 5

Other sources add a little more and somewhat varied Henry III 1216-72 (the first Plantagenet) information: The name in Danish means Seal's Rock, as in Selskar Rock in

Bannow Bay, site of the main Invasion (make that landing)

in AD 1169. The existing tower is 14th century; surviving 1229 parts of the nave are 15th; and the church you see today dates from the 19th. David de Rupe died (maybe shortly before) and is As usual, there is confusion and debate surrounding the succeeded by his second son, the "warlike" Gerald, his first, date/s; the third and fourth Crusades were much earlier. Reimund, being already dead. Reimund had two daughters, Thus, the date is wrong or he did not immediately act as a and by Gaelic custom and law at that time, they could not result of a lover having taken to the convent, but waited inherit their father's estate. Gerald inherited and they sued some time (into old age in fact) to act. The latter would be their uncle before the court of William Mareschal, Earl of more consistent with Norman tradition (if less romantic); Pembroke, but failed. Gerald had married a daughter of Sir they often betook themselves to an Abbey to live out their Thomas FitzAnthony. At about the same time he gained her final days/years after their active lives were at an end. I will father's lands at death, he was considered Thomas' sole not declare for one version over the others, however. male heir. 1250 c. 1240 David Roche (Louth) killed Cairbre O'Maclsechlainn in One story that just does not seem to make much sense is Athboye in the territory of ffearkeall (located in Meath?). that of Sir Alexander Roche of Artramont, who, after the one of the Crusades, supposedly returned to find his 1251 beloved in a convent because of rumours he had been killed in battle. On the parish website to this day (2009) is the following: John de Roch was Earl of Pembrokeshire. His wife Matilda Selskar Abbey is remarkable as the spot where the first was the niece of Thomas Wallensis, Bishop of St. David's (a Treaty was signed with the English in 1169 when the town Carew). of Wexford surrendered to Fitz-Stephen [I must insert here that there were NO English present to sign anything --- 1255 Cambro-Normans, Flemish, Welsh and Irish yes; English

NO!]. This originally Danish foundation was later endowed, enlarged and given to the Canons Regular of St. Augustine The Roches and Pendergasts, with others, under Maurice in AD 1190 by Sir Alexander Roche of Artramont. Fitzgerald (Justiciar), attacked Connacht. The sacristy of Boyle Abbey was looted. They went into Connemara and up Sir Alexander became enamoured of a beautiful girl, the the west coast of Connacht, plundering and ravaging as daughter of a poor burgess of the town.To prevent his they went. They passed through modern Cos Mayo, Sligo marriage his parents prevailed on him to join the Crusades, and Leitrim with special attention to lands under O'Donnell. then on foot, for the recovery of the Holy Sepulchre. On his Ironically, these descendents of Welsh and Flemish return from Palestine, he found himself free, his parents mercenaries ultimately "went native" having begun the task having died, but on visiting the dwelling of his fair lady he of dotting the conquered territories with castles. discovered, that having heard he had died in battle, she had entered a convent. He himself took avow of Celibacy, endowed the Monastery, dedicated it to the Holy 1261 Sepulchre, relics of which he had placed in its Church, and became its first Prior. {Yet it seems he did have legitimate Sir Richard de Rupella [de la Roche] Roche, father of heirs]. Alexander of Selskar Abbey, was Lord Justice of Ireland Selskar Abbey was suppressed in the thirty-first year of the (Journal of the Old Wexford Society, November 2, 1969). reign of Henry VIII, but not destroyed. Cromwell finally He also had at least one other heir, daughter Eve, to whom destroyed it in AD 1649. The present Abbey Church he gave (or bequeathed) Trembleath Manor which (Protestant) was built in AD 1818 on the east side of the contained Restormel Castle (built circa AD 1100) to her in ancient tower-the ruins of the original Abbey Church being AD1255. This is where things become very interesting and to the west. Out-Churches of Selskar Abbey were mysterious because that Manor and Castle were and are in St.Patrick's and St.Doologue's. Cornwall, UK and according to the sources quoted on our history page was descended from the Irish Branch. The 6

Archivium Hibernicum, 1960, V. 23-27 states in fact that the Roaches in Cornwall and Devon are descended from the

Roche family of Ireland, the same family present in Wales Aedh O'Connor, King of Connacht, defeats the Normans at likely before 1100 AD. Athankip. - Sir Ralph Arundel, son of Remfrey Arundel, was by AD Norman expansion enters into serious decline (1270); yet in 1259-60 Sheriff of Cornwall, and he took possession of 1278, Irish Lords offered 8,000 marks to come under the Restormel in AD 1265. However, as Sir William Arundel had "protection" of English Law - refused by Clerics and Nobles. married Eve de la Roche (de Rupe) AD 1245 and they were endowed (as noted above) Trembleath Manor by Eve's Note: England did not gain complete control of Ireland until forebear, Sir Richard de la Roche (de Rupe), AD 1255. c. 1650 Therefore, at least part of this estate passed by marriage to the Arundells. Trembleath became the Arundel family's principal 1270 residence in the later thirteenth and the fourteenth centuries; they also purchased Mitchell Manor. Richard de la Roche was still alive in AD 1262 (Feet of Fines 183), and John Roch, chantor of Lismore, is Oblate Bishop, Diocese of his widow Agnes still alive in 1283 (AR/45)....clearly a Lismore. descendant of the original family group/s - but no doubt of Sir Edmund Butler, Justiciar and Governor of Ireland, the same line because of the use of recurring names. Knight, b abt. 1276, Kilkenny Castle, Kildare, Ireland, d. 13 A Rodebert de la Roche, son and heir of Sir Richard and Sep 1321, London, m. Joan Fitz Gerald abt 1302, daughter brother of Eve, was knighted between AD1262 and 1283 of Sir John Fitz Thomas Fitz Gerald, Earl of Kildare, Lord of (AR/1/72 and AR/45), and was still alive c AD 1300 Offaly, and Blanche de la Roche. (AR/1/100). Here again a repeat of the non-Norman spelling of the name.

The Roche family was sometimes called "Tremoddrett," Note: Modern Killavullen and Annakissa, the former based on their residence at Tremoddrett in Roch(e) Parish, including most of the Mediaeval or Civil parishes of Carrig Cornwall - some distance from Roche's Rock at St. Austelle and Monanimy and the latter Clenor and Wallstown- and from Trembleath. There they remained until they Ballygriggin, sit astride the River Blackwater in North Cork. moved to Lanherne. A story that perfectly makes the point about the transition The estate also had permanent freehold tenants who sold between the Cambro-Norman "Invasion" and English in the late 18th century; with the remainder of the manor control of Ireland - and the difference between the two - going by sale to Francis Cross of Crediton, Devon in the features the Wall and Roche families. early 19th century. The Wall family came to the area about 1270 as subjects of The Arundells, of course, can be traced back to the Sir Lord of Fermoy who lived at Castletownroche. They David de la Roche of Llangwm who married one of the de remained in possession of the estate until 1642, when, like Roch females from Pembroke, Wales. They later fled to most of the "Old Normans", they fought for the Loyalist England, and the de la Roche name died out there because cause in the Parliamentary Wars. Sir William St. Leger, of having only female heirs - but yes one married into the writing to the Lord Commissioners, 30th May, 1642 states Arundel family. Clearly because of the close family tie that Lord Inchiquin and Captain Jephson, two young men between the Welsh and English plus Irish families through highly commendable for their courage and judgment, with the female line, Arundel seized the opportunity to their troops and two foot company's (sent to divert Lord capitalize [More on our Family History page.]. Roche fell upon a castle belonging to one Wall, a freeholder of that county and a good estate. 1262 With the loss of three men, albeit the place of good strength and much repaired, they used fire and force,

putting the defenders, about 70 in number, either to the Gerald de Rupe, "the third best knight in Ireland", is killed sword or halter. The 'Principal' was Richard Wall who died in battle at Tuarain Chormaic near Mangartach of Loch Lein in Cork prison soon afterwards. In depositions in 1653, - one of the lakes of Killarney. He was in an army (under regarding his involvement in the siege of Wallstown Castle, McWilliam Burke) invading McCarthy territory. Cormac, son he was already dead. of McCarthy, was also killed - there were heavy losses on His son William, a minor, attempted to maintain possession, both sides. but it was granted to a Parliamentary officer, Capt. Andrew Ruddock (whose family grave is still to be seen in the little church near the Castle). One James Wall tried to recover this estate in 1690, and also the portion of Robert Wall's of 7

Doonevally (The Fort of the Walls), contiguous with his own "bastards"....which can mean bastard within marriage and property, but his efforts were frustrated by the defeat of without....depending on the "legal" interpretation applied James II at the Boyne. Thus the Roches became an object to the formal parental union. Divorce could mean you lesson to those who tried to remain loyal to Pope and King, became a bastard retroactively??? Listed are: Church and State when both are in opposition. It's can't be DE LA ROCHE --- Adam, seneschal of Weysford; Alexander, done! son of David; Andrew; David; Amicia wife of David, son of Alexander; Elias; Eustace; George; Godebert; Griffin; Griffin, Edward I --- 1272-1309 son of Raymond; Henry (Roch); Henry; Henry, Knight; Henry, son of John; John; John, son of Eustace; Maurice; Philip; Rodbert; & Thomas.

DE RUPE --- Adam, son of Nicholas; Alexander, Henry and 1289 Alexander, sons of Alexander, son of David; Alexander, brother of Andrew; David, Maurice his brother; David, David de Rupe dies leaving as his heir - grandson David Knight; David, the younger; David, son of Henry; David, son FitzAlexander de Rupe - the children of his eldest son of Reimund; Edmund; George; Gerald; Gerald, son of David; Alexander having died before their father. Gerald son of Eustace; Gilbert brother of Gerald son of Eustace; Godebert, Chief Serjeant of Co.Waterford;

Godebert son of Gerald; Godebert son of Nicholas; Griffin; 1291 Henry; Henry boy; Henry son of David (Nichola his widow); Henry son of Gerald; Henry son of Griffin; Henry son of John; Sir Thomas de Rupe was residing at Artramont, Co. Henry son of Nicholas; John; Alexander his brother; John son Wexford, the family seat in Rochesland for generations. of Alexander; John son of Gerald; John son of Griffin; John Previously, they had been at Newcastle in Shelmalier East son of Luke; John son of Nicholas; John son of Reimund; John son of William (his wife Nesta); Luke son of John;

Maurice son of Nicholas; Milo; Milo son of Eustace; Nicholas 1295 son of Richard; Peter son of Gerald; Philip, Knight; Philip son of Alexander; Philip son of David; Philip son of John; Philip A List from the Index to Volume I of the Justiciary Rolls: The son of William; Reimund son of Milo; Rodbert; Tanckard; administration of justice under the control of Dublin in the Thomas son of Simon; Walter William son of David Middle Ages was carried out in a network of courts, each (Margery his widow); William son of John; & William son of with its own jurisdiction. On a local level, there were county Nicholas. courts, manorial courts, liberty courts and courts in the various towns and boroughs. Central justice was 1297 - Parliament at Dublin passes legislation to prevent administered in the king's name by the Justiciar's court Normans from "going native". (which later became the King's Bench), the Common Bench and by itinerant justices sent out to different areas of the country. It is from the records of these courts that these names were found by a good Dublin Researcher. 1299 E-mail: Sean O'Neill: The justiciar's court was mobile. Pleas were recorded, but Adam de la Roche was Seneschal (Kings representative) in from about 1280, the itinerant had a profession judge Wexford; there is a record of his claim for allowances assisting, and a second judge was appointed on a regular (expenses) in Ireland for the period AD 1299-1303. He had basis. These courts dealt with both civil and criminal to claim these by Petition and they are extant under matters. On the civil side, issues were title to land and Accounts Various - Miscellaneous at the National Archives trespass; on the criminal side, offences against the king's in Kew, UK. Since this is so long (over a century after the peace such as homicide, rape, arson, highway robbery and Bannow Landing, it would seem that there was more than harbouring felons. one Adam, as suggested by many historians. We might It would appear from those listed below that the first assume a father-son or uncle-nephew relationship, but we named were OLDER, first generation, with many named could be either right or wrong; nobody knows. 1299-1305. Nicholas, David, Henry, Raymond, Adam, Luke, William, Godebert, Philip, Eustace, Gerald, Richard, Alexander. John, George de la Roche in Ireland grants the rights to Castle Milo, Simon and Griffin are likely 2nd or 3rd generation Maurice in Wales to Sir John Wogan of Pictou - the result, Cambro - Hiberno - Normans, sons or grandsons of the the founding of the Wogan chantry at St. David's ROCHEs or de RUPEs and de Rupellas who arrived in 1169. (Pembrokeshire, Wales). Many in the Justiciary Rolls are referred to as 8

David FitzAlexander de Rupe), the most significant being an 1300s intervention on his part to obtain respite for men charged with the death of others.

1300-02 1306

David de Rupe, having wed Amicia de Cauteton (Condon), heiress of Fermoy, is ordered to deliver to brother in law Thomas de la Roche has become Lord Roche of Wales, but Maurice lands and rent in Glennoure, Ardlathe, Rathleglas, none of his descendents were ever called to parliament. Fegmor, Gortnebolla, Lenagh and Lysdonewyth. After her The previous year, he had acknowledged debts in Co death, David held title to these lands in Cork and passed Tipperary, and in 1308-9 he remained in Wales while them in turn to one of their sons, Alexander, whose own appointing attorneys in Ireland. He died in 1313. sons predeceased him. Suits and counter-suits continued for years - great discord followed between the Roches and Edward II 1307-27 Cauntetons. Eventually the cantred was taken into the Rebuffed by Church and State, the Irish ask Edward Bruce King's hands. David did fealty to the King in full court; to become their King - 1315 Maurice was ordered to cease all further interference; and this explains how Fermoy came under the Roche domain at that time. However it was a short time indeed before this squabble 1307-1322 resulted in murder of a de Rupe and the hanging of a Condon father and son) - see below. Maurice de Rochfort addresses the King, Edward II, to do what must have seemed in London like yet another 1301 example of the curse of never-ending feuding in Ireland. De Rochfort had taken issue with succession regarding Castle Dermot, Kildare & Castle Kyle, Cork. People named: Miles Grant of grazing rights by David de la Roche, Lord of de Argentin (valet of de Rochfort), Gilbert le Waleis Llangwm and Maenclochog, to Whitland Abbey in (Wallace), a retainer of de Rochfort and Thomas de la 1301(Wales). This is Pembroke - but not Roch Parish - and Roche. Thomas - if he is the same man named above - could begs the question of whether David was in any way related, not have seen this matter to conclusion. It would have been other than by marriage to the de Roch Flemish family to the left to his estate presumably. north of him. David's family is linked to Butterhill and their arms of later date show the lion, not the three roaches [Note: Many of the names mentioned are either de or le; normally associated with the Flemish Roches in Ireland. there are not many de la - certainly the family from Wales David and Johanna (de Roch) had a son John who married should have been de Roch; I suspect that the other Flemish Elizabeth de Bromwich in England That line goes to families may have gone with one preposition....even the de Elizabeth and Ellen de la Roche and becomes extinct in Clares (Strongbow). There should not have been many de la their time (no male de la Roche descendent survived) in Roches (Norman French in Ireland) and yet somehow, England. because of also holding property in England, when not de Rupe or the later Hibernicized de Roiste, the name is Thomas de la Roche - signatory to a Letter by a group of frequently seen as de la Roche. Barons to Pope Boniface VIII by Seal - Sir Thomas bore the arms "Sable, two lyons passant guardant argent". Some I mention elsewhere that the Normans in England would trickery here by the then Archbishop of Canterbury, have heard de Roch as de Rock phonetically, and thought Thomas Arundel - a clear attempt to implicate the late "de la Roche". In any even the two or three names (le Peter de la Roche by the seal he used (according to some Rocque) became merged, it would seem, and then references) showing the Knights who killed Thomas Becket, Anglicized after 1600 into Roche, variously spelled. It is only during the reign of Henry II (the three fishes). The killers - now with DNA technology available that we know there are Reginald Fitz-Urse, Hugh de Morville, William de Traci, and three genetically unrelated people using the surname - this Richard Brito - none a Roche - all felling into disgrace after can't be repeated often enough as hardly a day goes by the murder....and Henry II with them. when someone does not want a battle of the "proper spelling of the name". There is no correct spelling for any

name - first or surname!] 1305-07 But back to de Rochefort - a totally unrelated name - which is why the above note is there when the same issue is David de la Roche frequently mentioned in the Calendar of discussed elsewhere on this site. He requested the King Justiciary Rolls for Ireland (name used most often was grant his peace to those who killed his valet, Miles de 9

Argentein, and robbed Gilbert de Waleis (Wallace) in the excommunication by the Pope. Bruce was killed in battle town of Castledermot; and he states that Thomas de la and his head taken to England as a trophy by Bermingham. Roche, to whom the King granted a market at his Manor at Alexander Fitz-Hugh Roche founded Abbey of St. Augustine Kyle has in turn granted the Manor to him. The King is at Bridgetown (in Irish, Ballindroghed) -- this reference is asked to confirm the grant, especially the market, a good debated amongst the experts and remains in question. source of revenue. David de la Roche is among a group of "great men of De Rochefort is required to show his charter en dorse, sue Ireland" written to by Richard II from . in the Chancery, and the King grants it will be done upon confirmation under he King's Seal in England. Clearly, they were not making things easy for de Rochford, likely aware 1315 that de Roch was in Wales and that the whole thing might be a pretense. Later however, like after Thomas' death, Thomas de la Roche - Lord till 1324 - obtained a grant for Maurice de Rochford again addresses the King mentioning himself and wife Elizabeth of lands at Wolf's Castle and the same places and people and one may assume that - Rinaston, Wales. unless challenged by the estate, the petition may have been approved - but it took 15 years! 1316

1308 Roches, two of them, among a group of leading "Anglo-

Irish" magnates, proclaim in writing (by their seal) their Maurice de Caunteton (Condon) addresses King and Council loyalty to Edward II. mentioning in his petition: Fermoy and other places in Co

Cork. People mentioned included David Fitz Alexander de Rupe, grandson of David de Rupe, Walter L'enfaunt; Justice 1317 Maurice de Caru (Carew). Clearly the Petition was not well received and ended (see below) in the murder of Richard Thomas was commanded to return from Ireland for military de Rupe, presumably out of frustration. action in Wales. Richard de Rupe's murder ends the hereditary feud between the Roches and Condons. Maurice Condon 1319 commits the murder. He and son David Condon were hanged in Dublin. David Fitz Alexander de Rupe, grandson of David de Rupe; Geoffrey de Rupe held lands at Gibbrick's Ford, Wales (the Walter Lenfaunt; Justice Maurice de Caruu (Carew); John Black Book of St. David's) Wogan, Chief Justice of Ireland, PROME - Petitions from Ireland - Unedited (1307-37), Rotuli Parliamentorum I, pp. 1325 273-80, No. 19 (this dates the section) - we can safely assume it had to do with the above dispute and murder. Thomas de la Roche died and left a son, William, who

succeeded him, and four daughters. William in 1326, 30, 42 1311 and 48 had to name attorneys in Ireland. He died about 1370. His son John predeceased his sister Mary who then William Roche killed in Dublin. married John Fleming who became the new de Roche. Their daughter Margaret, a minor, married Sir Roger

de Claryndon, but died still under age in 1382. At this time, 1314 the Pembroke estate was split between co-heirs of her maternal grandfather, William's four sisters. Within a few John, son of Lord Thomas Roche dies and in his Will short years, the de Roch lands and properties in Wales had requests burial at Pill Priory (Wales). Lady Margaret, his passed into other hands. mother, is bequeathed half his farming stock at Pill with the David FitzAlexander de la Roche puts his seal on a option of buying the other half at market value. Sisters pronouncement of the Parliament at Dublin to delay the Elizabeth, Joanna and Lucia are left 20 marks each as a carrying out of sentences on others levied by the Church at marriage portion and his brother Thomas his armor. the Council of Kilkenny. George de la Roche of the Thomas, brother of John, had speedy use for the amour. He Waterford branch was also a signatory. was summoned for service under Sir John Birmingham against Bruce and his Scots in 1316-17. Those refusing to defend against Bruce in Ireland were threatened with 10

1326 1349 John Roche is Bishop of Cork Roche family members and the Barrys, in battle, slay James FitzRobert Keating, Lord Philip Hodnet (Hodnot) and Hugh 1350 Gordon (, Smith, 1893).

John Roche is one of burgesses involved in the Charter of Edward III 1327-77 Kinsale. Alexander, Lord of Rochesland, [I assume from the names, this was in Wexford], took money and other goods from one Walter Stafford on "the King's highway"; imprisoned 1330 William Murrough (likely MacMurrough) until a fine of 40s was paid as he did with Ellen Furlong until she paid her fine David, son of David de la Roche, slain (by monarchist (unstated); he burned a boat belonging to John Lyng forces) having been taken prisoner - this causes some (Lynch?) worth 46s; took a plow horse, sword and money confusion regarding which David is being spoken of in the from Walter Talbot; and with William Sinnott and others various records of the period. did take Thomas Sinnott's wife and horse worth 40s.

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David de la Roch is included in a group of Knights and David de la Roch receives letters from the King, Edward III. Squires mentioned in a letter from King Edward III to the David styles himself Lord of Fermoy in a letter in 1358. Archbishop of Cashel stating that Roger Outlaw, Prior of the Hospital of St, John of Jerusalem in Ireland, has been given 1353 the power to treat with both the English and Irish about coming into the King's peace and favour. • Maurice Roche holds grist mill at Ballyleve. 1335 • David Roche s/o Alexander holds land in manor of Kyllenon.

• Lord Roche obtained from Edward III a reduction in the 200 Maurice Roche holds land at Clenor. mark fine levied on his father for not attending parliament • Thomas Roche holds land in Villa of Clenor. under predecessor Edward II in 1326 -- the Louth Branch?. 1355 1344 The Cork Roches and other Norman families, by act of David De La Roche, Knt., m. Anna, dau. of Morice parliament (Dublin), seceded from the English government FitzThomas who survived him (ten years earlier, it is - Source: History of the Viceroys of Ireland, Gilbert, 1865. recorded that he m. Blanch Fleming of Dungrow also David de la Roch and a number of others received a letter Castletownroche, likely the mother of son David killed in from the King re the guarding of Co.Cork. Possibly to win 1330. David back, he is offered a knighthood. Records in Birmingham and London confirm that he accepted, being designated Roche, David Fitz Alexander miles (knight) by 1347 1365, having done homage to the Bishop in Fermoy and Clenor by service at the first installation of the Bishop to John Roche, Canon of Cork, ob. Bishop of Waterford and the office of Marshal. Lismore. Chosen by Dean and Chapter, ruled 10 years, died 4 July 1358. 1358 Roche family of Kildare founds a House of the Carmelite

Order at Cloncurry, Co. Kildare David de la Roch of Fermoy appointed his Pembrokeshire, Wales kinsmen his bailiffs to take possession of the Manors of Manbrier and Penally to which he had succeeded on the

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1380 1364

John Rupe is summoned by the King to parliament at • Maurice Roche of Balyleny holds land in Ballybeg, Tristeldermot and in Dublin in 1380. Barony of Imokilly Margaret Roche, dau of Nicholas of Newbawn, married • David Roche, holds dwelling and land, Clenor Thomas Wadding of Ballycogley, Sheriff of the Co. parish.

• John Roche, son of William, holds Garran Twnld, 1382 Clenor parish.

• David Dominus Roche holds Villa of Rathyn, John, son of David, knight, is made Sheriff of Co. Cork residence above, Avermor as Marshall. January 30. • John Roche, son of William holds land in Garran,

Clenor parish. 1386 • David Roche, son of David, holds dwelling and land in Clenor parish. • David de la Roche was elected Sheriff, Co. Wexford John Rupe (Roche) m. dau. of Thomas McCarthy, Lord of Comangue (Cosnaguy/Cosmangie), listed as tanist (in • David Roche, Marshall for Bishop of Fermoy and charge of kingly succession under Irish tradition) to Cloyne (see above), holds Ballygybelyn curate in McCarthy Mor. This reflects how, against the statute of Parish of Brygowne Kilkenny, the Roches ignored the requirement not to intermarry or do business with the Irish, but to remain a Parliament at Kilkenny imposes draconian Statutes to race apart. The couple had two sons. ensure English dominance in Ireland 1387

1366 John Rupe dies and leaves minor heirs. The lands of Maurice de Rupe of Fermoy were given in custody to David Roche, Manor of Rahyn, holds Manor and property at Gerald FitzMaurice, Earl of Desmond. Maurice later married CasRoch, Person Street in Clenor and of Kylenon. Gerald's sister Anne.

1371 1389

Maurice Roche, lord Fermoy, holds land at Raheen in Dionysius Roche is Chief Magistrate/Mayor of Wexford. Fermoy. 1394 & 99 Richard II send armies to Ireland 1374

David de la Rupe is killed in battle against Niall O'Neill and 1399 Anna (FitzThomas) de Rupe (his widow), her heirs and possessions are taken under the King's protection. She was Five distinct branches of the Roche family are to be found the mother of John born to the couple in David's old age. at this time in Ireland -- Louth, Kildare, Tipperary, Cork and Wexford (Cork Historical and Archaeological Society). 1375

John, son of David, who succeeds his father as Lord Fermoy, is charged by Edward III with keeping the peace.

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1440 Henry IV 1399-1413 (first of the House of Lancaster) 1400 Maurice de Rupe remained benevolent toward Bridgetown Abbey. In this year, Pope Eugenius IV confirms in writing a

grant by the Lord of Fermoy to the Abbey and Rectory of St.

Lachtain Parish Church in Ballyhea, left vacant by the 1403 resignation of John Walshe.

Robert Roche, Canon of Cloyne; John Roche s/o - Apr 17 1443 Priory of Villa Pontis, barony of Fermoy: Schoolmaster

William Roche, Alexander Roche, witnesses. Maurice is confirmed as having a dau Blanche. This was in a testimonial letter to James, Earl of Ormond, Lieutenant, 1405 Cork, January 9 signed by Lord Roche. She married the Earl of Kildare. Maurice Fitz John Roch, Lord Roche, Viscount Fermoy Calendar of Ormond Deeds, Volume III (c. 1423): The value released all interest in vast holding in southern Cork to of royal service, given as knights' fees in this case 1/2 - Robert and Milo FitzGeoffrey de Cogan - Moretowne, Royal service belonging to the Earl of Ormond [Butler] in Co Mustrymyttin and from the water of Arino to the southern Kilkenny - The Lordship of Roche of Rower was granted the sea in Cork (6th year of the reign of Henry IV). area surrounding Rower Civil Parish [DE RUPE].

1408 1445 William Roch, 1st & 2nd bailiff, Cork (1445-6). John Roche of Drinagh was Seneschal of Wexford. 1448

Henry V 1413-22 David Fitz Maurice de la Roche, an only son, succeeded his

father at Fermoy. All genealogies extant give David Mor

(the Great) validation from this point onward. This leaves 1422 no doubt after this time of the names and succession of the Lords of Fermoy, however confused they may have been Maurice de Rupe was made Sheriff of Co. Cork by the King before this time. He married Joan, dau of Walter Burke in an open letter from Kilkenny on February 18. MacWilliam Uachter, with whom he had several children. [Comment: I still wouldn't bet the keys to my house on any of it - the need to create a later peerage after a dormancy Henry VI 1422-71 (overlap with Edward IV - War of the of over a century is proof that things did not in fact become Roses much more neat! JFR]

1464 1438 Andrew Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork John Roche, first Bailiff of Limerick - 1422-71 (overlap with William Roche, Archdeacon of Cloyne, Bishop's coadjutor. Edward IV - War of the Roses). This would suggest, they had been there for some time - supposition - Limerick was governed as an independent City State under a Charter of 1466 Henry V dated 1415 until about 1603. There were John Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork successive Roches who held office as Aldermen and Mayors of the City throughout much of this period.

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1491 Edward IV 1461-83 (first of the House of York - overlap with predecessor - War of the Roses Maurice Roch, mayor, Cork * David Roche first Bailiff of Limerick.

1479-90 1494-95 John Roche, provost of Kinsale. William Roche succeeded to Bishopric of Cork and Cloyne, resigned 1490. 1497

1480 Maurice Roch, Mayor of Cork Edmond Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork. David Roche, Mayor of Limerick

The burning of Irish records at Four Courts leaves little information on the next few generations of Roches, but we Richard III 1483-5 do know Maurice was succeeded by son David (Cork), who married Cathleen dau of Teig McCarthy Mor. This David

lived until abt 1544, but it was in his time that serious

trouble began with the English - seems there was much 1483 "plundering" and "despoiling".

• Maurice Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork 1500 • Edward Roche, burgess, Kinsale • John Roche, burgess, Kinsale 15?? Edward Roche, application for Charter of City of Kinsale Henry VII 1485-1509 ( the first Tudor ) 15?? John Roche, application for Charter of City of Kinsale 1485 - Battle of Bossworth Field in England - Richard III killed - Henry VII (Tudor) ascends the Throne 1500 Maurice Roch, mayor of Cork*

1488 1501

Maurice, son of David Mor, succeeded his father and was John Roch Fitz Morris, 1st bailiff, Cork summoned to Greenwich by King Henry VII in 1489. He George Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork - claiming descent from Lord married twice - Joan dau of the earl of Desmond and Roch and Fermoy, had a son John b. 1507 who became the Margaret dau of Mahon O'Brien. With Joan, there were two father of James Roch the Swimmer, credited with saving children and with Margaret one, a son, Edmond. Joan's dau for the British (more below). Ellen married her grand uncle Maurice, Earl of Desmond. Maurice Roch, mayor, Cork - Maurice was from south of 1502-03 on the river Ballyroche. He was at times Mayor of Cork between 1488 and 1523. The family used the Andrew Roche, sovereigne of Kinsale name Carrick for a time, as reflected in a land transaction of the day, (Source: Gentlemen's Magazine, September, 1504-05 1855). A constant is the Lion motif in their arms and those George Roche, provost of Kinsale in part of Wales.

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1510 John Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork Henry VIII 1509-47 (Reformation begins in the Reign of a King deemed "Defender of the Faith") 1511 After a lapse in the tradition of Irish scholars attending Maurice Roche, Mayor, Cork * English Universities (particularly Oxford & Cambridge), it began again in about AD 1500. The same restrictions on their future career prospects that had caused them to go to 1511-12 institutions on the continent still prevailed. No Irish Richard Roche, sovereigne of Kinsale graduate was permitted to take an appropriate position, upon graduation, in Ireland. What this meant in reality is 1512 anyone's guess. First, they had to be considered Loyalist in order to attend; second, having attended, they might still Edmond Roch Fitz Morris, 1st bailiff, Cork. be disadvantaged; and third "Irish", by then could be Gaelic or Old English (not English at all, of course). 1513 The difference was that this time, as opposed to the time of John Roche fs Morris, mayor of Cork Henry V, for example, special dispensations were offered as long as concessions were made by the young scholar. As a result, some became Bishops and some gained positions in 1514 government - accent on "some". An exception was lawyers. John Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork There was a clear need for people trained in both the English Feudal Code and Brehon Law. 1515 It was flattering for an Irish Chieftain to be offered an Phillip Roche, provost of Kinsale. English knighthood, but little did he realize the true cost. Once conferred by the Monarch, the Knight's property could be confiscated at the whim of his Master; his children 1516 could be made wards of the Monarch; and any profit William Roch fs George, 2nd bailiff, Cork accruing from his wife's dower similarly could revert to the

Crown. Henry's Acts of Attainder (AD 1535) and his Act of Absentees could blindside any Irishman and be used to 1520 entangle and confuse any of the old Cambro-Norman; Flemish or English. Edmond Roche, mayor of Cork, Lord Walter Roche, son of In fact, by stealth, Henry at about AD 1520 was beginning Nicholas, with a band of followers, entered the suburbs of to plot ways to supercede the Irish by English tenure. Wexfordtown by night and burned a boat owned by Robert Having witnessed the limitations of force, he used guile - he Canton (Condon/Cauton) at Ravan Point, then went on to hoped young people educated in the ways of the English burn the towne of William Meyler and Thomas Synott, would return home Anglicized, the deal sweetened by charging the 20s in order to re-build. Walter also entered offers of membership in the Privy Counsel. He wanted this Wexfordtown, with an Irish banner displayed and seized done "politically, patiently, and secretly", so that Irish and any animals found. This is again a case of old allies fighting Hibernicized outsiders would find themselves drawn one another. Walter having taken an Irish wife and without jealousy or suspicion into the English sphere of adhering to Brehon Law and thus being in violation of influence. He saw lawyers as central to the ruse. Feudal/English law. While some took the bait - hook, line and sinker - others slowly caught on. By 1577, when Elizabeth was on the 1522-23 Throne, a group of such lawyers, by then called, within the Phillip Roche, sovereigne of Kinsale. Pale, "Irish men", led the gentry there to contest for the independence of Parliament. The reaction by the Queen and her deputies can best be described as blistering hatred. 1523 The lawyers involved suffered straight and painful Maurice Roche fs John, mayor of Cork * imprisonment, and that was the end of all pretense. It seemed that with the exception of Dublin (the Pale), nobody knew where they stood and so they stood where 1525 they wanted to stand until, they could be brought to heel. Sir Dominick, Vicar of Cork, Bishop of Cork and Cloyne.

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1528 Migrations of Munster Irish into (back into) 1536 - George Browne made Bishop of Dublin; ordered to Pembrokeshire (Wales) reform Irish Church 1537 - Henry VIII declared King of Ireland by Irish Note - this explains much of the confusion around the Parliament. All land declared property of the crown to be latter-day Roch(e) names and estates in Wales, especially re-granted at the King's pleasure. Pembroke(shire). The original de Roch(e)s had died off in the 1400s at Roch Parish and the de la Roches (further 1537 south) had fled to England - as described on the History • Walter Roche ( Roche's Revenge), Rochesland Page - link on this site. Even though locals had adopted the waxed Irish in his ways and went to the suburbs of name after the Roches were no more, I had been at a loss as Wexford town on a night raid, burning property, to how they could have taken up titles and property later. collecting taxes and taking cattle. He had an Irish This is at least partially explained - absentee Welsh woman as a wife in open contravention of the landlords in Ireland - plus strong links between Cork and Church's Statutes of Kilkenny. Dublin over the centuries - do (tenuously) provide the substance for the re-appearance of non-Welsh Roches and • Robert Roche, son of John Roache of , arms bearing lions, not fishes, in Wales at a later date. The contrary to the King's peace, cut off the hand of lion/s - sometimes capped with a five pointed Crown - a David Duff, mariner of Ross. Roche - and having been used by some south Cork Roches - • William Edlee Roche took from Thomas Keating of now make sense. So there is some logic and continuity to Graigscor farm animals and other goods. what had seemed a muddle. • William Etle (note difference in spelling) Roche, with the help of diverse "wild Irish", attached 1528 Coolcotts, a townland near Wexford, and took Richard Roch St John, 1st bailiff, Cork from husbandman, Walter McThomas farm animals and other goods. The group also

murdered McThomas' wife. This seems and was 1529 terrible, but all sides were guilty of such atrocities. James Roch St Morris, 1st bailiff, Cork • Nicholas Roche, Seneschal of Co Wexford, with his allies the Keatings, Suttons, Furlongs, Hores, Hays, 1530 FitzHenrys, Devereaux', Synotts and Nevilles, took away from the commons and burgesses of New Edmund Roche fs Maurice, mayor of Cork Ross by force of arms pigs, sheep, cattle and six George Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork men as hostage for ransom. • Ironically, while these "crimes" were being judged 1533 and reported back to Dublin by Juries within the Dominick Roch fs Edmd., mayor of Cork Shire, the family names - like Roche and Prendergast are found both on the docket and as David Roche, Mayor of Cork jurymen - specifically in this year (1537), one John Roche. In fact, all the names are foreigners' names, 1534 as are the names of those charged. Presumably, Nicholas Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork this is the result of people deciding to be Loyalist, Brehon or to try to be either depending on

circumstance...the deciding factor often being the 1535 taking of Irish wives in violation of the Statutes of George Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork Kilkenny and similar laws. 1539 David de Rupe (alias Lord Roche) had drawn the ire of Nicholas Comyn, Bishop of Waterford, who requested in a letter to Henry VIII that the English subdue the rudeness of Lords Barri, Roche and others. Trying to be politically astute, he seems to have been successful for a time in being included among the Anglo-Normans, not the Cambro- Normans. 16

James fz Morris Roche, mayor of Cork (and again in 1552). 1549 Aug 4, Pardon of: 1541 Alexander Roche of Balletasan in the Roche-land, George Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork Robert Roche of Drenargle, parish of Kylepatrick, Thomas Roche Cork City 1550, 1542 Dominick Roche, mayor of Cork Philip Roche, esq., suffrain of Kinsale David de Rupe again figures in a letter to the King. This 1552 July 22, Pardon to: time, it is from Lord Deputy Sentleger requesting redresse David Roche, son of Lord Roche, for the many evil behaviours committed by Lord Roche and Edward bane Roche, the White Knight who "have long been out of good order and yet Englishmen" fighting one another. They were James Roche M'Barrye of Ballyrichards, horseman, therefore thrown in jail in Dublin where they got along Peccorde Roche, famously apparently. The plan was to keep them there til Richard M'Libbode Roche, they saw the light and learned to behave. John oge M'Edmond Roche

1544 1552 James Roch fz Morris, mayor of Cork David de Rupe, Lord of Fermoy, dies.

1545 Mary I 1553-58 (restored Catholicism in England and Maurice "The Mad" de Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork succeeds his encouraged the first Plantation by the English in Ireland) father David. He married Grace, dau of Cormac MacTeige, Lord of Muskerry and had 5-6 children. 1553

Lord Roche is described in a letter from Sir Thomas 1546 Cusacke, Lord Chancellor of Ireland to the Duke of Dominick Roche, merchant, Cork Northumberland as being among the lords and captains of James Roche, Mayor, Cork the counties Limerick, Cork and Kerry who within a few Marcus Roche, Cork years would not hear talk of obeying the law.

1547 1556 Robert Roche of Drinagh with Ric Butler intruded into the John Roch fz Edmd., 1st bailiff, Cork King's Castle and lands at . The Sheriff reported in Lord Roche married the second daughter of Sir Thomas of the Plea Rolls of Wexford that they were both now dead. Desmond

Edward VI 1547-53 (at age 10) 1557 Patrick Roche, Archdeacon of Cork, recommended to be 1548 Bishop of Cork and Cloyne and by inhabitants of Kinsale. Signers included John Roche fitz Patrick, John Roche fz. William Fitz Edmund Roche, reg. In 1578, d. of w., will filed, Phyllyp Co Cork

Richard Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork 1558

The White Knight (Limerick) v Lord Roche (Fermoy) - alleged 1549 spoil of the Plaintiff's country by Donoghe, brother of the May 3, Pardon of: Robert Roche, gent., of Ballytersane, Defendant. Judgment: payment demanded to the Irish Richard Roche of Danystone, Exchequer (presumably, a fine). Maurice Duff Roche of Ballyby Dominick Roche fz William, mayor of Cork

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vulnerable at Killmallocke, but that he had under his command 36 cavalrymen, 100 foot soldiers and 80

gallowglass (mercenaries). Elizabeth I 1558-1603 (restores the C of E in England) Edmond Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork

1561 (or earlier) 1567 David Roche, succeeded Maurice the Mad Maurice Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork

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Richard Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork Roche's loyalty in question and Roche's country raided - in Lord Roche is again the subject of correspondence from answer to his complaint, the Lord Justices sent a circular to Ireland to England. Thomas Sussex reported that he has a number of Anglo-Norman officials speaking of Roche's heard that the earl of Desmond has sworn Lord Roche to loyalty and asking restitution for the harm wrought by the him. Irish. The Earl of Desmond, his father in law, was at this time confined to the Tower of London. 1562 Lord Roche listed among "all the noble men" summoned to Maurice Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork appear in parliament at Dublin by the pleasure of Queen Elizabeth I. It notes that the names of these formerly noble houses have begun to tarnish - some have become mere 1563 Irish, and some partly Irish, thus causing a great decay in a noble region. Roche, Viscount of Fermoy is ninth on that Lord Roche is reported to Queen Elizabeth I by the Lord list. lieutenant as having suffered great hurts at the hands of the Countess of Desmond, Gerald Earl of Desmond, his late 1571 father, James Fitz John, and their supporters. • Maurice Roche fz Edmd., mayor of Cork Maurice Roche of Trabulgan, Mayor of Cork (suggested by some as first in the line culminating with Princess Diana). • Maurice Roche, Mayor of Cork, given a silver collar They were from south Cork - raising doubts about a by Queen Elizabeth I for services against the Earl of Limerick connection to the last dynasty (barons) at Fermoy) Desmond. Richard Roch, 2nd bailiff, Cork • Lord David Roche sides with the Queen against James FitzMaurice in the Geraldine Rebellion, his second son is wounded and a request sent to the 1565 Privy Council that the young man be taken to Richard Roche, was mayor of Cork England for surgery. • 1571 John, son of Edmund Roche of Cork, land - 1565 April 10, Pardon to: Aug 20; Richard Roche, land Maurice Roche, son and heir of Lord Roche John fitz Edmond Roche of Ballehyndeny 1572 James fitz Maurice Roche of Croghe James Roche, alias Machenry, of Corraghmachenry, Co James Roch fz Dominick, 1st bailiff, Cork Cork, gent. Lord Roche's support deemed ineffective in a letter from Lord President Perrot to the Lord Deputy describing a small 1566 military action in Munster. David Roche is knighted by Sir Henry Sidney during his tour of the south of Ireland following his vindication on a charge 1573 May 4, Pardon to: of supineness while in command of cavalry in support of his Edmond fitz Morishe Roche of Illane ny fynsyn, Cork English allies. It is difficult, however, to evaluate the John fitz Morishe Roche of Illane ny fynsyn, Cork significance afforded this title in Tudor times, especially since there was obvious distrust of the recipient in William fitz Morish Roche of Kinur, yeoman, Cork government circles. Military intelligence documents by Loyalists which still survive indicate that Roche was most 18

1573 May 5, Pardon to: 1574 Morishe----David Roch, lord of Armoye (Fermoy), Co Cork, Edmd. Roch fz Dominick, 1st bailiff, Cork his son and other relatives as follows for having helped the English Army in Munster and remitting all Crown debts. 1575 May 14, Pardon to: Maurice Roche of Castletown, Cork, gent, James Roch alias ny geyllaghe of Old Castletown, Co Cork,

gent. Elinor fitz Morishe, his wife, Cork, Redmond Roch of Castletown, Cork, gent. James ny gillagh Roche, Cork, Redmund boy Roche of Croighe, Cork Theobald Roche of Castletown, Cork, Edm. Fitz David Roch of Carrigtowne, Cork John Roche of Castletown, Cork, James fitz Philip Roch of Ballahowly, Cork William Roche of Carrigownane, Cork, John Roche fitz Richard of Cork William fitz Tibbot Roche of Ballahowly, Cork, Maurice fitz James Roch of Ballyhenden, Cork Theobald fitz Philip Roche of Ballahowly, Cork, William riough Roch of Castletown, Cork David fitz Philip Roche of Ballahowly, gent., Cork, John begg Roch of Curraghmackhenry, Cork John moyle fitz Edmond Roche of Ballahowly, Cork, Edm. y villaine Roch of Kylowragh, Cork Edmund fitz David Roche of Carrigownan, Cork, David fitz Philip Roch of Ballahowly, Cork David fitz Tibbot Roche of Licklase, Cork, Tybbott m'Philip Roch of Ballahowly, Cork James fitz Tibbot Roche of Licklase, Cork, Shane lyeh Roch of Ballyndenig, Cork John fitz Tibot Roche of Licklase, Cork, Peter fitz William Roch of Old Castletown, Cork, yeoman David fitz James fitz Redmond Roche of Ballihenden, gent.,

Cork In the midst of this, we have a buccaneer, a pirate - Philip

Roche - if that in fact was his real name; On record is a 1573 May 6, Pardon to: memorandum regarding seizure of concealed money by the David fitz John Roche of Killahally, gent., Cork Bristol searcher (custom's officer in modern terms, I John fitz David Roche of Whatlieston, Cork suppose) aboard Roche's ship, laden for Ireland, 28 May 1575 James fitz James Roche of Shanywallymore, Cork

David row Roche of Tamplerowne, yeoman, Cork 1575 May 18, Pardon to: John fitz Ulicke Roch of Kilbyrne, gent., Cork Theobald Roche of Cregg, Cork, gent. Eustas fitz Thomas Roch of Croghnykry, yeoman, Cork John Roche of Crogh, Cork, gent. James fitz Thomas Roche of Ballyndrohyd, chaplain, Cork Maurice fitz Gerrot Roche of Ballgingerragh, Cork, gent. Eustace fitz Thomas Roche of Ballyndrohyd, yeoman, Cork David fitz John Roche of Rathe, Cork, gent. Maurice fitz John fits Gerot Roch of Ballinleygan, Cork Philip fitz Redmond Roche of Cariglenlery, Cork, kern William rioghe Roche of Casteltown, Cork David m'Shane bane Roche of Rathe, Cork, kern Redmund boy Roch of Casteltown, Cork, yeoman

Peter fitz William Roche of Ballyhenden, yeoman, Cork 1576 Feb 16, Pardon to: Redmund Roch, son of lord Roche, gent., of Castletown, Cork Eustace Roche of Parke, Cork

1573 Philip Roche's lands - his being the under-aged son 1576 and heir of John Roche, late of Kynsall, Cork, merchant - William Roche fz Dominick, mayor of Cork were granted in wardship to Nicholas Walsh, gent., to hold during minority, Cork.

1573 May 10 Pardon to: John Roche fitz William of Curaghrock, gent., Cork

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1581 1577 - Pope Gregory XIII, despite Rome's self-interested and full support for the British Monarchy for centuries, Maurice Roche of Cahedowgan, esq., son and heir of David exhorts the Irish to rebel against Queen Elizabeth I of the Roche, lord of Ardmoye, who was reconciled with his father Reformed Christian Faith - using as justification that "the thereafter, having been in open rebellion against the Apostolic See hath ever embraced with singular love and English - pardoned peculiar affection the nation of the Irish."

1582 1577 Sept 7, Pardon to:

John beg Roche of Carragh-m'Henry, yeoman, Cork. Maurice Fitz Edmond Roche, alderman of Cork, will filed, John duff Roche of Castletowne, Cork Co.Cork Patrick Fitz Philip Roche of Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork 1577 Sept 12, Pardon to: Lady Roche, David's wife - was accused of treason by a David Roch, Knt., viscount of Fermoy, Co. Cork younger branch of the family including Theobold Roche of Theobald Roch of Cregg, Cork, gent. Ballyherven. Four of their sons were killed in battle with their enemies of long standing, the Condons. Not more

than fourteen men survived so that Roche had to bring in 1577 strangers from other territories to inhabit his territory after David Viscount Roche of Ardmoy (Fermoy) received a grant these engagements - a disastrous year for the Roche family under Queen's letter dated 22 May to hold the office of leader of the inhabitants of Ardmoy, Lord Roche's country - 1582 Aug 24, Pardon to: effective Sept 21 Fermoy William m'Phillip Roche of Castlelions, Cork

Fermoy David m'Phillip Roche of Castlelions, Cork. 1578

Philip Roche, gent., advisor to Earl of Desmond 1582 Aug 26, Pardon to: John Roche, gent., son of Viscount Roche, grant of wardship and marriage of Donald or Donnagh O Kellaghan, grandson Philip carraugh Roch, horseman, Cork and heir of Kelleghan/O Kellaghan, late chief of his nation in Patrick Roch fitz Rob., horseman, Cork Co. Cork, and custody of his lands during minority. Theobald Roche, Cork David Roche, Sept 10 Livery to knight., Viscount Fermoy John Roche fitz Rob., Cork alias Ardmoye, son and heir of Maurice late Viscount. Edm. Roch fitz John, Cork

Edm. Roch fitz Rob., Cork 1579 Rob. Carragh Roche, horseman, Cork Maurice Roche fz Richard, mayor of Cork Edm. Roch, kern, Cork Lord Roche and an illegitimate son James helped the

English (Sir Henry Sidney) against the Geraldines. James was later killed by the White Knight, Edmond FitzGibbon. 1582 Sept 12, Pardon to: But Roche refused to pay English taxes and levied his own Richard Roch fitz John of Kinsale, Cork. exorbitant taxes on his subjects. Lord Roche warned the Duke of Ormond in February about 1583 the coming of Spanish ships. • James Roche, mayor of Cork

• Nov 4 Maurice Roache Fitz Richard, probate, Co 1579 May 30, Pardon to: Cork Patrick Roche fitz Philip., merchant of Kynsale. • Nov 10 Christopher Roche of Wexford, an Irishman forced by poverty and conscience to study abroad 1580 - at 22 years of age, departed Wexford for James Roche Negelagh having been murdered, Edm. Fitz Bordeaux where he worked as a porter in Guinne John FitzGibbon, gent., of Mitchelstown, Cork, was College for a year; taught Latin for six months at a pardoned for death. school in Libourne; studied at Toulouse and in colleges in Paris for a year and a half, Lorraine for

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Douaine, & St. Quen - eight years in all - manslaughter, but upon receiving his inheritance, he at first wandering, sometimes serving meals to make a went back the Queen (very pragmatic). Because he did so, living and studying when he had money for food. he gained yet another pardon and his men an amnesty. His fate is unknown. • Nov 21 Confirmation of Ulicke Roche on manors of 1584 May 31, Pardon to: Oldcasteltown and Fermoy, Michellistown, Co. John Roche fitz Morice of Cork. Cork, held under lease to James Roche, his father, which had lapsed. • Nov 26 Lease to Morishe Roche, lord Roche and 1585 viscount Fermoy, site of monastery of Fermoy, Co. Maurice Roche, probate, Co Cork Cork and its possessions for 21 years. Philip Roche, esq., Borough of Kinsale officer

1583 Nov 28, Pardon to: September, 1588 - Spanish Armada - About 25 Spanish Maurice Roch, lord Roch of Castleton, Co. Cork ships wrecked off the Irish coast. Cast-aways were helped John Roch fitz William of Carrigdowne, Cork, gent. in Ulster and north Connacht, but, elsewhere, many were put to death. William m'Theobald Roche of Hall, Cork, gent. John fitz William Roch of Hall, Cork, gent.

Maurice fitz John Roch, late of Chrahmarie, horseman, Cork 1588 David fitz John Roch of Castelkiflyn, horseman, Cork

Walter Roch of Castellkiffyn, horseman, Cork Theobald Roch of Creg slain. Sept 9 as a result of an Maurice fitz John Roch of Castelkiffyn, Cork Inquisition at Shandon Castle, which found him guilty of James fitz Morishe Roch of Soneston, gent., Cork participation in the Earl of Desmond's Rebellion. James fitz Philip Roch Conva, Cork Lord Roch granted parcels of land and an Abbey in Edmund oge fitz Edm. Roch of Ballynlegan, Cork consideration of 200 pounds arrears because Roche and his David fitz John Roche of Hall ____ Ballynleaynicke, Cork ancestors had on all occasions of service, especially in the late rebellion, shown themselves loyal and serviceable to Theobald fitz David Roche of Ballyhindyny, Cork the Crown. However, overall, Roche and his kin, after all Maurice fitz James Roche of Ballyhindyny, Cork was said and done, fared as badly as the rebels. Maurice David fitz Tabbot Roche of Glanmor, horseman, Cork proceeded to England to plead his case and returned indignant at his treatment. Eustace Roche of Flanders was employed by the crown to improve the mining of metals, and in 1588, was granted 1583 land at Newhaven to construct 10 pans, in which he was to make a superior grade of salt. Coal and salt were largely Maurice Roche, Lord Roche, Viscount Fermoy alias responsible for the rise in importance of several ports in the Ardmoye, son and heir of David, late viscount granted Forth, but Leith, Scotland shared significantly in the trade. Livery David and wife Ellen dau of James MacPierce died within a 1589 month of one another in the spring of this year -- not John Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork surprising in light of what had so recently befallen them. Castletownroche was preyed upon by the Condons. Margery, sister of David, was left to entertain British 1590 representative, Sir Henry Sidney, on yet another of his visits. Dominick Roche fz Oliver, mayor of Cork Eveleen, Countess Roche, dau of Maurice, son of David and Christopher Roche, l. died, 13 December, under torture, Ellen, wife of the Earl of Thormond (Donoghe, the son of Newgate, London (Source Catholic Encyclopedia - Irish Conor O'Brien) died that summer at Clonroche and was Confessors and Martyrs) buried in the Monastery at Ennis. Maurice de Rupe succeeded his father as Viscount. He was married to Ellen, dau of Maurice Atotane, brother of the 15th Earl of Desmond. They had 4-5 children. He had been amongst the pardoned in 1565 -76-81 for rebellion and 21

1591 June 19, Pardon to: 1599 Philip roe Roch of Crookshaven Maurice finally had enough and entered the rebellion. He John Roch of Crookshaven then married widow Cateline, dau of Gerald, Earl of Desmond. However, he soon quarreled with Lord Desmond

and was pardoned yet again - along with many kinsmen. 1591, Pardon to:

Morice fitz John fitz(R)Edmond Roche, Cork 1599 July 24, Pardon to:

Maurice Roche, Viscount Fermoy 1592 Theobald Roche, his son David, son of Maurice the Mad, dies. English undertakers William Roche were abroad in the land at that time and the Roches were not happy about their demands and decisions. James Roche Edward Roche 1593 Theobald fitz David Roche If Maurice Roche, at the age of 42, became the eighth Redmond fitz Theobald Roche Viscount of Fermoy in 1635, he would have been born to David fitz Theobald Roche David, the seventh Viscount, about this time. James fitz Morishe Roche Ulicke fitz James Roche 1594 John fitz Ulicke Roche Francis Roach was Chorister at Corpus Christi in England, an John fitz Morishe Roche Irishman studying in England. Source; Fowler's, p 429. Morishe fitz John Roche Maurice, Viscount Roch, is imprisoned in Dublin Castle, Garrett Roche charged with crimes of high nature. There he remained until July 1599 (below), and he remained loyal to the Edm. Fitz Redmond Roche Queen! George fitz John Roche Dominic FitzJordan Roche of Newcastle was mayor of Redmond boy Roche Limerick in 1597, 1616, 1618 and 1621. He was Richard fitz James Roche Commissioner of Co. Limerick in 1627 and often at odds with the Church. As Alderman at Limerick in 1629, he was accused of using "disrespectful words towards the King." 1599 July 24, Pardon to: Morishe fitz James fitz Redmond Roche

An Irish Rebellion against England began. Spanish help James fitz Theobald Roche arrived too late (1601). Rob. Garuffe fitz John Roche

1598 1600 David Roche, son of Maurice, joined the rebels (according to a letter from Sir Thomas Norreys to Sir Robert Cecil from 1601 Cork). The undertakers were promptly ejected from their Maurice and John Fitz John Roche are reported to have holdings shortly thereafter. marched from Kinsale with Don Juan de Aquila (Spanish Fleet), but Maurice had died in June, 1600. His place was 1598 Feb 17, Pardon to: taken by son David who turned Protestant and turned away Richard fitz James Roche his brothers. Brother, Theobold died in the same year as his father. While a rebel in his youth, David becomes a loyalist Margaret fitz John Roche once he received his inheritance in full - even that taken Redmund boy Roche from his father in penalty for rebellion. He married Joan James Roche fitz Philip dau of James Lord Barry, Viscount Buttevant. So, by the Richard Roche fitz Philip beginning of the 1600s the Fermoy family was represented by David (1573-1635), a Loyalist. He died at Philip Roche fitz Philip Castletownroche, west of Glanworth in the area by then Redmund fitz Tibbot Roche 22 known [like several others in Ireland] as Roche's Country [Crioch Roisteach].

His son Maurice inherited, but met a very different fate. 1607 - The Flight of the Gaelic and Cambro-Norman Earls of There was increasing political opposition from Dublin Castle Ulster to - Cos Armagh, Cavan, Coleraine, Donegal, to Anglo-Irish Gentry who claimed loyalty to the Crown, but Fermanagh and Tyrone - declared forfeit to the crown. remained Roman Catholic. The Civil War of 1641 and the Ulster was seized and populated by Lowland Scots and Cromwellian intervention in Ireland saw Maurice treated English Protestants....a problem that sustains until today. with suspicion. He was even imprisoned for a short time in 1624.

He chose the Confederacy side in the 1640's and suffered a major land confiscation, valued at £50,000, in 1642. He was 1607 offered in exchange an obscure piece of land in Co. Mayo, David McShane Roche, probate, Oct, City of Cork which was never taken up. He attempted to regain his land Dominick Roche, probate, Oct, Co of Limerick through supplications to Charles II after the Restoration, but was completely unsuccessful. 1608 Maurice's wife, Catherine (nee Power), was even more unfortunate. After gallantly defending Castletownroche in Edmund Roche, 1st son of Philip Roche, gent., Kinsale, ward 1641, she was hanged by Cromwell for murder of an at Trinity. "unknown man" on the evidence of a "strumpet". Her Edmd. Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork husband later fled to Flanders and joined a continental army (more below). 1609

• Dominick Roche fz William, mayor of Cork 1602 • Dominick Roche named mayor under charter of Walter Roche, son of John Roche of Rochesland, Co King James I. Wexford, at Trinity (ward - meaning it was likely he has • been made ward of the Queen - not something desirable.) John Roche FitzJohn of Ballyerlane appointed to freeholder panel, Cork - July 13

• Dominick Roche of Ards Rostige, gent., appointed 1603 to freeholder panel, Cork • Edward Roche, bro. to Dominick Roche, rebels • Francis Roche of Rathmacullicke, appointed to • John Fitz-David Roche, RC, preached in R.C.. freeholder panel, Cork Rebellion • John Roche FitzJames of Carrickanavya, gent., • John Roch fz James, 1st bailiff, Cork appointed to freeholder panel, Cork • June 1 Philip Roche Fitz-John, probate, Co Cork • David Roche of Fermoy surrendered all lands to • Lord David Roche, still loyal to the Crown, with James I and had them re-granted to him so that Thornton and 800 soldiers, proclaimed the King there could be no dispute over title as long as the (James I) near Shandon Castle, Cork. monarchy endured. Confirmation was received in 1611 along with 150 foot soldiers who were placed under his command. He had won the King's favour James I 1603-25 (first of the Stuarts) - by changing his religion!

1604 1610 John Roche., son of Thomas Roche, Athnally, Co Wexford, Edward Roche, Edmond Gallwey, Henry Gould Fitz-Piers at Trinity College, ward. (Mayors and Sheriffs of Cork. Source: " The History of the Co and City of Cork" by Rev. C.B. Gibson, M.R.I.A., published 1605 London, 1861, Volume II). Patrick Roch, 1st bailiff, Cork 1611 David Lord Roche, probate, Sept, Co Cork

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the Wexford Roches (See Family History Page). I agree. 1612 They can't take away what they did not give. By force, they stripped us of wealth and power. But we had it right when Nicholas Roche, who died in office and was succeeded by we showed contempt for the Herald. And their little books Ed. Roche Fitz-John Domk. Tyrry Fitz-Edmond, Stephen about Dormant, Abeyant and Forfeited Arms may give Miagh Fitz-Garrett, Patrick Lawallyne Fitz-Richard Dominick them comfort, but we didn't care then and we don't care Gallwey - source as above. now. Being Republicans, of course, we now relegate them Eustatius (Eustace) Roche, probate, Oct, Co Waterford to history, while retaining a sentimental attachment. My problem is that many of the "Irish", like most of the Welsh before them, never appreciated or acknowledged 1613 - Coleraine and Derry renamed Londonderry our contribution to their societies - even after centuries lived among them and many a life sacrificed to help protect them from Anglo predations. But such is Life.

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David Roche (Fermoy) signs a petition for a group of 1618 Catholics going to parliament to request some redress in the laws against them. Andrew Fitz Michael Roche, will filed, Co Cork James Roch fz Philip, Borough of Kinsale officer - April 21 Theobald Roch, probate at Mallow, Oct, Co Cork (possible youngest son of David?)* Dominick Roch fs Richard, gent., Borough of Kinsale officer

1620 1614 William Roch, probate, Sept, City of Cork Edmond Fitz Morish Roche of Ardeclaine, d. of w., will filed, Co Cork March John Roche, prior of Lismore 1623 Edward Roche, son of John Cork City • Jordan Roch, probate, March, Co Limerick • William Roche, probate at Theolonium Limerick, 1615 Co Limerick - August • Dominick Roche fz James, dep. Sheriff of Cork John Roche fz Patrick, 3 Sept, Mayor of Cork • Johannis (John) Roch 6 Sept appointed Commissioner of Cork. 1616 • Dominick Roche fitz Edmond, gent., 13 Sept Dominick Roche Fitz-James (Mayor), Maurice Roche Fitz- appointed Sergeant at Mace, Cork. James (Sheriff), John Gallwey, James Gold, G.T. Fitz- Edmond, John C. Fitz-John, Thomas Martell Fitz-Philip - • James Roche, provost/sovereigne of Kinsale source as above. • John Fitz Morice Fitz Edmond Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork. 1618 - Herald's Visitation of Co. Wexford. 1624 The Roches of Artramont and Drinagh (Bless them!) • showed contempt for the English Crown by refusing to • John Fitz Edmond Roche of Ardaloyne, will filed, register their arms and pedigrees with the Ulster King of Co Cork Arms on his visit to Wexford • Thomas Roch, probate at Limerick, Co Limerick - *** THIS EVENT TRIGGERED THE BEGINNING OF THE END Jan FOR OUR TITLES, PEERAGES, WEALTH & POWER IN WEXFORD. • James Roche, probate at Cork, Co Cork - 12 Jan 'If the Roches lost their claim to titles and coats of arms in • Thomas Roche, probate, at Cashell, Co Tipperary - 1618, and their lands and possessions in the Cromwellian 14 Jan Plantation, later generations showed that they had lost • Edward Roche fitz Edmond, former Commons none of the qualities of leadership and courage which had Speaker, Cork - 23 Jan distinguished the family in earlier times.' [Richard Roche]. • Milo Roche, probate at Oldcastle, Co Cork - 22 Feb I beg to differ with Richard to a small degree...the British • David Roch, probate, Feb, Co Cork themselves say they never created or bestowed arms on 24

• Morish Roch fitz Patrick, sworn free, 4 Mar, Cork. • Edward Fitz Morris Roche of Cork, will filed, Co • Stephan Roche, probate at Abbey St. Francis, Co Cork Limerick - 3 Aug • James Roche fitz Patrick, merchant in wine, Cork • John Roche Fitz-Moris, probate, 20 Sept, City of • John Roche fitz Morris & Nicholas Roche, engaged Cork in wine trade, Cork. • Viscount Fermoy, probate at Milltowne, Co Cork - • William Roche, probate, 2 Sept, Co Cork 3 Oct • David Roche, probate, Co Cork • Dominick Roche apptd Serjeant at mace, 4 Oct, • Patrick Roche fitz Morris, probate, 2 Sept, Co Cork Cork. • David Dominick Roche, probate, 16 Oct, Co Cork • J. Roche, James Lombard, James Kearney (Mayors • David Dominick Roche, probate, City of Cork and Sheriffs of Cork)

Source: "The History of the Co and City of Cork"; by Rev. C.B. Gibson, M.R.I.A., pub. London, 1861, Volume II) 1627 • David Fitz-William Roche, probate, 27 July, Co Cork • John Roch, probate at Abbey St. Francis, Co Charles I 1625-49 Limerick - 29 Aug • Maurice Roche Fitz-Richard, probate, 6 Sept, Co

Cork

• Jacobus (James) Roche, probate, Co Cork 1625

• James Roch fitz Patrick sworn free, 26 April, Cork 1628 • Andrew Roch fitz John sworn free, Cork • Johannes (John) Roche Fitz-Redmond, probate, 26 • Dominick Roche, juror, Aug, Cork Aug, Co Cork • Edmond Roche, juror, Cork • Jacobus (James) Buoy Roche, probate, 23 Sept, Co • John Roche, juror, Cork Cork • Stephan Roch, probate, 29 Aug, Co Limerick 1629 • John Roch fitz Morrish, sworn free, 30 Sept, Cork • Edward Roche, Cork, wine trade. • Phillip Roch fitz Morrish, sworn free, Cork • Morish Roche, Cork • Dominick Roche, sworn Commons Speaker, 24 Oct, • Maurice Roche fz Patrick, sheriff of Cork Cork • Daniel Roche, probate at Oldcastle, Co Cork - 30 • Dominick Roch, alderman, 6 Dec, Cork March • Johannes (John) McUlicke Roche, probate, Co Cork 1626 • Ricardus (Richard) Roche, probate, Co Cork • Maurice Roche, probate, Co Cork Dr. John Roche, Bishop of the Diocese of Ferns, Co Wexford • David Viscount Fermoy, probate, Co Cork (for the most part) 1626-36. His father was a lawyer in New • Edward Roche, Cork, wine trade Ross and he went to Douai in the Spanish Netherlands to study for the priesthood (a struggling Irish seminary had • Richard Roche, probate, 1 Sept, Co Cork been in existence there since 1594). John was known for his • Jacobus (James) Roche, probate, Co Cork diplomatic skills, having worked with the Papal Nuncio at • David Roche, probate, Co Cork Brussels (1607), as Papal Diplomat to Paris (1616), and • representative of Ireland in Rome (1622), having become a Johannes (John) Roche Fitz-Ulicke, probate, Co Cardinal a year earlier. Cork In Ferns, he had to wrestle with how his own people, • David Roche Fitz-Richard, probate, Co Cork wealthy merchants in the towns and wealthy landowners in • Richard Roche, probate, Co Cork the country, could combine civil obedience with religious • Patrick Roche fitz James, apptd waterbailiff, 6 Oct, disobedience. He learned it was impossible. He died in Cork Kilkenny (1636) at age 63 while visiting Bishop Roche of • Ossory. He is "probably" buried in St. Mary's Church Dominick Roche fitz Edmond apptd serjeant at Cemetery there, but no stone marks his grave. mace, Cork

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1630 • Richard Roche fitz John, elected councillor of Cork • Morrish Roche, mayor, Cork - 24 Feb • Patrick Roche Fitz-Morris, probate at • John Roche fitz Edmond, juror, Cork - 29 April Bandonbridge, Co Cork - 2 May • Edmund Roche Fitz-Phillipp, probate, 28 Oct, Co • James Roche, probate at Old Castle, Co Cork - 17 Cork Sept • John Roche fitz Moorish of Cork, merchant, • Johannes (John) McWilliam Roche, probate, Co elected a Councillor (John paid 10 pounds for the Cork appointment) - 6 Nov • William Roch, probate at Theolonium, City of Cork • Morrish Roche, mayor, Cork • Dominick Roch, probate, City of Cork • Dominick Roche, alderman, Cork • Richard Roche, mayor, City of Cork • George Roche sworn free, 10 Dec, Cork. Edmond • Dominick Roche apptd sergeant of mace, 7 Oct, Roche of Kinsale, Burgess, prerogative will filed Cork • 1630 Edmond Roche of Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork • Morris Roche fitz James, alderman, named • 1630 Edmond Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork Commons Speaker - 21 Oct • Anstace Roch of Christchurch, Admin. Bond Cork 1631 • Francis Fitz Dominick Roche, will filed, Co Cork • Maurice Roche, mayor of Cork • John Roche fitz John, juror, Cork 1634 • Dominick Roche, alderman, Cork • Richard Roche, Mayor of Cork • Edward Roche fitz Edmond nominated for mayor, • Edmund Fitzwilliam Roche, merchant Cork Cork (Not Elected) • Morris (Maurice?) Roche, Mayor of Cork • William Roche fitz Dominick elected Mayor of Cork • John Roche, constable, Cork - for ensuing year. • James Roche esq. Borough of Kinsale, officer • Dominick Roche apptd Chief Sergeant at Mace, • Richard Roche, witness, proved will, Cork - 7 Nov Cork • Thomas Roche, witness, proved will, Cork • John Roche apptd Overseer for City, Cork • Richard Roche, mayor of Cork • Morris Roch, wine trading, Cork

• Philip Roch fitz Morris, wine trade, Cork 1635

• James Roche fz Patrick, sheriff of Cork 1632 • David Roache, provost/sovereigne of Kinsale • Morrish Roche, alderman, former mayor • David Roche (Fermoy) dies at Castletownroche and • John Roche fitz Edward, eldest son of a mayor, is buried at the family's beloved Bridgetown sworn free, 16 April, Cork Abbey. He is succeeded by son Maurice at the age • William Roche, probate, Co Cork, Aug 20 of 42, the eighth Viscount. He had married Ellen, • Dominus (Dominick) Viscount Fermoy, probate, Co dau of John Power, son and heir to Richard Lord Cork Power of Carrigmore. They had three daughters and two sons (some say four - see below). He was • William Roche fitz Dominick sworn in as mayor - 1 a supporter of the Catholics, was considered "a Oct popular man" amongst the papists in Munster and • Dominick Roche appt sergeant of mace, Cork was even imprisoned for a time. Poor Ellen is the women who ended her days at the end of 1633 Cromwell's rope - hanged for her spirited stand against his incursions (see below) - just a few short • William Roche fz Dominick, mayor, elected years later. councillor of Cork • Dominick Roche, alderman, elected councillor of Cork • Morish Roche, alderman, elected councillor of Cork

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was hanged in August [1651]. His wife, Mourna 1635 Trawla (More) Brien Arra remarried - James Butler of Kilmackaugh, Co Limerick. She died in 1656

leaving as orphans John, Christian, Anstace, and Theobald Roche died. Katherine. They petitioned the Commonwealth for Ulicke Roche, probate, Co Cork support and were awarded 40 pounds a year. Morris Fitz-James oge Roche, probate at Old Castle, Co Cork • David Fitz John Roche of Ardcloyne, will filed, Co William Roach, probate, Co of Limerick Cork • David Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork 1636 • Patrick Roch fs Richard esq. Borough of Kinsale, officer • Redmond Roche, probate, Co Cork Philip Roch fs Richard esq. Borough of Kinsale, officer Maurice receives a writ from Charles I via the Sheriff of Cork to appear before the Chancellor of Ireland to show • David Roch Fitz-John, probate, 3 April, Co Cork cause why certain Letters Patent from James I should not • Edmond Roch Fitz-Philip, probate, Co Cork be annulled. Lord Roche was censured in the Star Chamber • David Roch, probate, Co Cork and was threatened with fines and imprisonment if he • returned to his country (Munster). Source: a letter from Thomas Roch, probate, 11 Sept, Co Cork Geo Rawdon to Lord Conway and Killultagh. • James Roch, probate, Co Cork SHOULD THIS HAVE NOT BEEN THE END - especially given • David Viscount Fermoy, probate, Co Cork the 1661 decision below? • Ulicke Roch Fitz-James, probate, 4 Oct, Co Cork.

1640 - Oliver Cromwell imposed British rule on Ireland. He Presbyterian worship is suppressed by the Church of Ireland paid soldiers and investors with land confiscated from Anglo-Irish Catholics of the midlands.

1637 Viscount Fermoy, probate, Co Cork 1640 William Roch, probate, 22 Aug, Co Limerick Maurice de Rupe of Fermoy, having been summoned to Parliament while being banished to England, assigns a

proxy from his address in London (St. Martin's Tavern near 1638 Sharing Cross) in a letter to his cousin, the Duke of Ormond • David Fitz Richard Roche of Kinsale, Will filed, Co (March 15). Cork • John fz Maurice Roche, dep. Sheriff of Cork • David Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork • Ulicke Roch, probate, 25 Aug, Co Cork • David Roch Fitz-Gerald, probate, 9 April, Co Cork • Theobald Fitz George RochGoold, John Fits- • Theobald Roch, probate, 14 Aug, Co Cork Maurice Roche, Stephen Coppinger -- Sheriffs of • Richard Roch of Poulenelog, Cork - died 9 Sept Cork • Richard Roch of Poulenelong, Co. Cork, sovereign of Kinsale and J. P., eldest s/o Philip Roch of 1641 Kinsale, descended from house of Lord Fermoy - David Roch, probate, 28 April, Old Castle, Co Cork funeral certificate issued.

1639 • Jordan onge Roche of Newcastle, Mayor and Alderman of Limerick - forfeited property to the Crown in 1641 --- Charles I (1625-1649) --- and took exception when it was not restored under the terms of the capitulation in 1651 under Oliver Cromwell (The Commonwealth Period), not a good time to take exception to anything. Predictably, he 27

• Lord Roch, proprietor, Barony of Armagh/Fermoy. • Theobald fitz John Roch, proprietor, Barony of 1641 Armagh/Fermoy A Petition by Mary Roch, widow, prays that counsel may be • John Roch fitz Ulicke, proprietor, Barony of assigned to her in her case against Thomas Roche and Armagh/Fermoy. others. The rebellion of the Gaels and old English • James Roch fitz William , proprietor, Barony of (Normans) against the Scots settlers in Ulster triggered an Armagh/Fermoy. English Civil War and put an end to the attempt by Charles I • Edmond Roch, proprietor, Barony of to establish an English absolutist state in Ireland under Armagh/Fermoy. Thomas Wentworth, the first Earl of Strafford. • Redmond Roch, proprietor, Barony of Parliamentarians were victorious in the Civil War in 1646; Armagh/Fermoy. Charles I was executed in January, 1649 and Cromwell was appointed commander-in-chief in Ireland by the English • Theobald Roch, proprietor, Barony of Parliament (March 30). He landed in Dublin August 15 and Armagh/Fermoy. set upon the Loyalists. • William Roch, proprietor, Barony of On Nov 20 Carrick-on-Suir was taken by Cromwellian Armagh/Fermoy. forces. On February 3, 1650 Fethard surrendered to • Pierce Roch, proprietor, Barony of Cromwell; Feb. 24 Cahir surrenders; May 10 Clonmel Armagh/Fermoy. surrenders and on May 26 Cromwell leaves Ireland. • Morris Roch, proprietor, Barony of Armagh/Fermoy. 1641 • Edmond Roch, proprietor, Barony of Maurice, Lord Viscount Roch of Fermoy, having earlier (17 Armagh/Fermoy. Feb) entered a Petition of silkmen of London (the House of • James Roch fitz Dominick, proprietor, Barony of Commons) to commissioners of the Prince's Revenue Armagh/Fermoy. during the Reign of Chales I was unsuccessful (See • James Roch fitz Henry, proprietor, Barony of HL/PO/JO/10/4/2), Later, (1646) he was outlawed in King's Armagh/Fermoy. Bench on account of the Rebellion (23 Oct). The 8th Viscount was one of the leaders of the rebellion. His wife, • Patrick John Roch, gent. of Kinsale, Admin. Bond, Lady Ellen Roche (nee Power), was hanged at Blackwater Cork Castle for trying to defend Castletownroche. Her husband • Walter Roche and others took an active part in the fled to the Continent and joined the Flemish army. Other rebellion and are dubbed "Rebels" property Lord Roche also lost by attainder included at that 1642 time: Walter Roche (the Rebel), Provost Marshall, hanged ----Castlekifflin Lieutenant John Esmonde of Fort (August 20), ----Castletownroche taken prisoner in an attack on Redmond's Hall, now Loftus ----Castle of Cahirdowgan Hall) in July of that year. The Lieutenant was the nephew of ----Castle at Cariglemleary Lord Esmonde, Governor of Duncannon Fort and commander of the English Garrison there during the At the same time (1641) John Roche of Castletownroche, Rebellion. had his estate confiscated and was exiled to Kilrush in West • William Roch of Cork, alderman, Admin. Bond Clare because he was a member of the Catholic council of • Margaret Roch, Admin. Bond Cork Killkenny. • Maurice Roche fz Patrick, mayor of Cork

• Francis Roche, sheriff of Cork • Robert Roche son of John m. Juliana O'Moore, Stephen Roche (Dov or Black) son of Robert, • Edmond Roche, dep. Sheriff of Cork forced to Limerick, and took up abode at Pallas. • Dominick Roche of Cork, Will filed, Co Cork (Source: M. Anastasia Lysaght) • Philip Fitz Maurice Roche of Cork, Will filed, Co • Ulicke Roch, property Ballydangan, Killcullane Cork. parish. • Ulicke Roch, proprietor, Barony of Armagh/Fermoy. • John Roch, proprietor, Barony of Armagh/Fermoy.

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1642 - Lord Roche and Lord Moscry were the principle men Nov 3 Richard Roche, alderman, sworn in as justice of in Munster. By July 4th, the two had cut the food supply to peace, Cork. Cork. A letter to Monsr. Dwyer, a Franciscan in Rome, says most of the nobles of Ireland are up in arms against the 1643 heretics. By February 15, Ireland was universally revolted. The Lord of Incycoyne (Inchiquin) whose father-in-law • Edward Fitz Edmond Roche of Cork, will filed, Co retired to Limerick having lost his troops to Lord Roche and Cork Donnogh McCarthy, was unaccounted for at that time, but • Morris Roche fitz Patrick, alderman, Cork would soon appear with a vengeance. • Francis Roche, previously sheriff and chamberlain, Lord Maurice Roche and the Condons by year's end had Cork tasted defeat at the hands of the English - losing 2-3 • John Roche fz Maurice, esq., mayor, Cork hundred men to Lord Inchiquin's army. Roche's Castle was • besieged. The greater part of his estates were confiscated, Philip Roche, having died before he was sworn, and he was outlawed. The Earl of Cork and his sons indicted R.T. Fitz-Robert was elected dep sheriff of Cork on Lord Roche and other Irish noblemen of treason. the 13th day of October in his stead.

Aug 2 --- Indicted of treason in Co. Cork and outlawed in 1645 the King's Bench: Captain Thomas Roche of Furlongstown, Co Wexford was ----Patrick Roch of Poulenelong, gent. appointed temporary Governor, Duncannon Fort in March ----Richard Roch of Glyn, gent. following its surrender to Catholic Confederates. He held ----David Roch of Ballynologhy, gent. this position in rotation with others until he died of the ----David Roch of the Island, gent. plague in the summer of 1650, just before the fort ----Richard Roch of Knockinhingin, gent. surrendered to Cromwell's forces. ----James Roch of Kimore, gent. ----John Roch of Ballanvallagh, gent. 1646 ----William Roch of Ringarrane, gent. ----Adam Roch of Ringarrane, gent. Richard Roch, gent., of Dunderowe, Admin. Bond Cork ----McEdmond Roch of Birne, gent. Dominick Roche of Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork ----Rory McJames Roch of Birne, gent. ----David Roch of Cartnecource, gent. 1646 ----Thomas Roch of Aghelenane, gent. ----Ulicke Roch of Ballindangin, gent. Dominick Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork ----John Roch of Castlekevine, gent. ----Edmond Roch of Ballenlegune, gent. 1647 ----James Roch of Keppach, gent. James Roche of Curecanway, will filed, Co Cork ----Theobald Roch of Killagh, gent. ----Thomas Roch of Ballincargeagh, gent. ----Redmond Roch of Carranadrolane, gent. 1648 ----Thomas Roch of Costoigge, gent. David Roch of Cortuygonroe, Admin. Bond Cork. ----William Roch of Killeagh, gent. ----John Roch of Castletowne, gent. ----Miles Roch of Castletowne, gent. 1649 ----John Roch of Ballynemony, gent. Mouirish Patrick Roch of Cork, Admin. Bond ----Edward Roch of Castletowne, gent. Morris Roche, witness, proved will, 21 March, Cork ----Fs. John Theobald Roch of Castletowne, gent. ----John Roch of Ballindargin, gent. ----Fs. John Ulicke Roch of Castlekine, gent. ----William Roch of Ballinlargane, gent. ----William fs. Thomas Roch of Clostoige, gent. ----James Roche of Bullymckonikine, gent. ----David Roch of Killeigh, gent.

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1650 Co. Wexford Civil Survey 1654 [''ip" = Irish Papist] Old landowners exiled to Connaught - some scholars argue 1654-1656 Civil Survey, Co. Wexford (assumption – that England did not have full control until all of Ireland had duplicate names mean more than one property?) been conquered in 1650-3...thus letting the Cambro- Norman allies of King Dermait (1167/1169-72) emerge from Barony of Gory [Gorey] under a cloud....so one would think (if they didn't know the --- Redmond Roche ip Gaels). --- Walter Roche of Clonogh [Clonough] townland ip Even the Fermoy Roches - at least the Dynasty or Family, in Barony of Balakeen [Ballaghkeen] power at that time - seems to have come to an end ---Redmond Roche ip (confirmed in 1661). It is at such critical points that ---Redmond Roche ip pretenders and perhaps even people with legitimate claims Barony of Shilmaleer [Shelmaliere] appear. Proving that the blood line is in tact and that there ---Robert Roche ip is an heir someplace in the world is always a difficult ---Robert Roche ip business. I record the most viable, but I simply cannot ---John Roche ip determine their validity, if any. ---Nicholas Roche ip Joane Fitz James Roche, will filed, Co Cork ---Robert Roche ip Joane Fitz James Roche, will filed, Co Cork ---Phillip Roche ip ---Robert Roche ip Joan Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork ---Walter Roche ip

Barony of Forth 1652 ---Alexander Roche, Assaly townland ip Maurice, Lord of Fermoy, saw his estates by Act of ---John Roche ip Parliament August 12 divided among Cromwell's followers Barony of Bargy and himself excluded from pardon. ---Thomas Roch ip Thereafter, that branch of the family, their title ---Theo Roch ip meaningless, their power lost and themselves dispersed from Munster, dwindled and died. Members of the family 1654 become beggars, living on the bounty of others, a state described by one Irish writer as "ignominious diminuendo, Mary Roche, self-proclaimed Viscountess Fermoy, died in dwindling to silence." BUT HE MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG - jail in Cork. (Source: Irish Confessors & Martyrs - Catholic How else explain Ulrich and the official demise of the line in Encyclopedia). 1733! Dr Morrish Roche, Irish Papist, Gentleman, Kilcoman, Co. 1655 Tipperary (near Fethard, Co. Tipperary) - Lands (175 Acres) Morrish FitzEdward Roche of Cork, merchant, prerogative forfeit to the Crown under the DECREE OF BANISHMENT will filed. October 11,1652 - listed in the Civil Survey at Fethard, Co. Tipperary on July 28th, 1654. 1656 James Roch of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond Edward Roche (Roach), son of Brian Roche, Minister, Surrey - born. Graduated Trinity 1679. 1653 • Andrew Fitz John Roche of d. of w., will filed, Co 1656 Cork Maurice Fitz Richard Roche of Dunderrow, will proved in • Philip Roche of Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork Cork • Philip Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork Charged with trading in merchandise at retail without • Dominican: David Roche, priest, sold into slavery, permission - in violation of a 1655 court order that no Irish St. Kitts, (Source: Irish Confessors & Martyrs - papist within the town of Kinsale should keep open shop or Catholic Encyclopedia) sell goods by retail - March 9: ----John Roche ----Phillip Roche

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1657 • Richard Roche, probate at Tholsel, City of Cork - 6 • Richard Roche, probate at Kings Old Castle, Co July Cork - 29 Sept. • James Roche, probate, Co Cork 1661 Decrees of Innocence granted after Restoration of • John Roche, probate, Co Cork Charles II: ---- Maurice Roche (but no restoration of lands or titles) • Richard Roche, probate, Co Cork ----John Roche of London, secretary in ordinary to the • Morrish Lord Viscounte Roche, probate, Co Cork - Queen; he and his wife Mary claimed several lands in Co 27 Oct. Cork in right of Philip Roche of Kinsale, his uncle, and brother to Patrick. 1659 ----Francis Roche Fitz Edward, native of Cork, claiming Pravolgan and several other lands, Barony of Imokelly. James Roch (James the Swimmer) born at Kinsale, only son ----Maurice Roche, late of Cork of George Roch of Tourin and Glyn, 29 Sept. 1659. ----Ulicke Roche and wife ----Ulicke Fitz James Roche of Ballylogh, Co of Cork, settled Charles II 1660-85 (Monarchy Restored) - May 14, 1660 - lands of Balldydally Parish, of Clanmor, Barony of Fermoy, proclaimed king in Dublin. May 29, Charles makes his on his son and heir, John Roche. formal entry into London. Nov. 30 - he makes a declaration ----Edward Roche and mother confirming Cromwellian soldiers and adventurers in ----Richard FitzGeorge Roche of Kinsale, father of Edward ownership of lands in their possession and also providing Roche, claimant, lands at Kinsale. for 'innocent papists' and those who have supported the ----Maurice Fitz John Roche of Cork, alderman, claimant of monarchy. tenements in Cork. 1661 December - a Group of Catholics draw up ----Patrick Fitz Maurice Roche, native of City of Cork, son of 'remonstrance' declaring unqualified allegiance to the king Maurice Roche, alderman of Cork and disclaiming pope's authority to absolve them from such ----Edward Roche son of Maurice Roche MD, Co Tipperary. allegiance. Richard FitzGeorge Roch of Inishonane, Admin. Bond July 31, 1662 - Act of Settlement designed to give effect to Edmund Roch of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond Charles II's declaration of Nov 30, 1660 and to resolve Stephen Roch of Cork, Admin. Bond conflicting claims of Cromwellians and former proprietors. Morris Fitz Edmd. Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork Aug. 21,1663 - Closure of first court of claims, after issuing 566 decrees of innocence to Catholics, but leaving many claims unheard. The Seige of London)Derry is well known and is still a contributing cause of "" in NI until the present attempt to finally make peace and share power. One key figure in the success of the seige is often over-looked - I 1661-2 suspect he was a papist and loyalist - was one James Roche, Maurice of Fermoy petitioned the Lords Justice of Ireland "The Swimmer". Wounded severals times swimming for help, citing the poor condition of himself and his family, dispatches from the city to the British fleet, blocked by one daughter having died from want of requisite barricade at the mouth of the River Foyle, he was initially accommodation and diet. No help was forthcoming, but a given considerable rewards. Some of these were later grant of some land in godforsaken Connaught or remote withdrawn and he spent much of his life in Court and Thomond. He is said instead to have gone to Flanders Petitioning London in this regard. where he commanded a regiment, but other reports say As early as 27 Jan 1663, the King of Ormond was writing this was done by his son David as Maurice was simply too from Whitehall [MS Carte 43, fol(s) 94], while throughout old at the time of the confiscation. He could have gone and the period Oct 1662-Aug 1699, the Monarch was busy returned? Why does nobody know - they likely don't want appointing people to office and making grants in Ireland to know! [MS. Carte 43]. One sees Ormond pleading with the Lord • John Roche of Farranpierse m. Catherine Gun of Lieutenant in respect to certain lands, for Captain James Rattow Roche, about to go into Ireland. So this Captain Roche, volunteering to go into the city of Derry, an act of bravery • Andrew FitzJohn Roch, Admin. Bond Cork by then, as it was starved and disease was rampant, was • James Roch of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond considered worthy of reward. • Ulicke Roche of Ballymagolley, d. of w. 1642, will But his heroism while there added to his awards. Quite filed, Co Cork frankly, I'm sure, after the fact, there were many times • Richard Roch Fitz-John, probate, Co Cork - 2 July when he must have wondered what had possessed him to 31 become involved. After the battle for Derry was won, he 1666 spent the rest of his life battling for what he considered John Roch, "Irish Papist," property Ballinloghy, Ballinloghly fulfillment of promises made - properties in Co Waterford parish Fermoy Lord Roch, Irish Papist, property North and fees from ferries throughout Ireland. Ironically, I Glannor, Arleagh, South Glannor, Knockaneerbally, suspect, his experience turned many a "taig" loyalist into a Roharch, in Glanmor parish - very large "family" - difficult republican Freedom Fighter. As late as 1703, we see an Act for even the Brits to break that bloodline? Much of the making good the provision intended for Roche out of the above supposedly went to the Earle of Ormond by Patent in Estates in Ireland promised him including the Bishopric of 1654??? An analogy.... Cloyne and the manor and lands of Donomore. By then, he Note: Like Hydra - the Monster which lived in the swamps would have been old and would not have lad much longer near the ancient city of Lerna in Argolis of the Peloponnese to live. in classical antiquity (The Iliad), the offspring of Echidna (half maiden - half serpent), and Typhon 100 heads); in 1663 other versions (there are always other versions) Hydra was Edward Roch of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond the offspring of Styx and the Titan Pallas. Hydra had the body of a serpent and many heads (generally nine is accepted as a rule), of which one could never be hurt 1663 Decree of Innocence: by any weapon. If other heads were severed, another ----Stephen Roche and Christian Roche, son of James Roche, (sometimes two) would grow in their place. The stench of 2nd son of Dominick Roche, Cork alderman. Hydra's breath was enough to kill man or beast (or there ----Catherine (Donovan) Roche, widow of William Roche of was a deadly venom). But, like Hydra, the Roches of Fermoy Ballyanleton, Knileenagenels, parish of Glanor, Barony of met their Hercules. Fermoy, son/heir of Edward Roche, dec'd. With help from Iolaus and his flaming torch, Heracles, as he cut off the heads from the Hydra, had Iolaus cauterize the 1663 wounds with a flaming torch to stop them growing back. • Edmd. Francis Roach, property Ballolagane, Heracles removed all but one. It was THE head that could Glanmor parish not be harmed by any weapon, but, picking up a heavy club, Heracles crushed it with a mighty blow. Then he tore it off • Theobald Roch, property Donneene, Killcrumper by hand and buried it deep in the ground, putting a huge parish boulder on top. Later he dipped the tips of his arrows in the • William Roch, property Ballynclowry, Killathy Hydras' blood, extremely poisonous, making them parish completely deadly. • Lord Roch, property Ballingareagh, Gleabe Land, Other legends say that a stray arrow set fire to the forest, Carriglemleary parish and it was burning tree trunks Heracles ripped up and used • Maurice Lord Roch, property Crogh, Lishelly, to cauterize the open wounds. Whatever - it worked - Ballincloane, Killnashar, Clonstage, Ballyharry, metaphorically speaking of course - but aren't metaphors Carkimore, Parke, Donne Bayle parish (Kildare - go all about life??? figure???) 1733 Ulicke Roche, commonly called Lord Viscount Fermoy, • John Roche of Castle Kyvine, will filed, Co Cork prerogative Will filed, Cork ---- the main line at Fermoy became extinct when Ulicke Roche died. He was certainly • Maurice Fitzpatrick Roche, Cork alderman, admin. not like the other heads and may not have been a valid one. grant. What does "commonly called" imply? It took Hercules (England) and friends a long time to get that last head. Even 1664 then, after a century or more had past, they created a new, Philip Roche of Kinsale, esq., prerogative will filed, Cork. more manageable one (Trabolgan), of lesser status. And even it bit them in the end!

1665 Nicholas Roch of Ballynemony, gent., Admin. Bond Cork Edmund Roch of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond Maurice Roche fitz Richard of Downederow, esq., makes last will 30 March - bequests to Mary Roche, his wife; John Roche, brother; Patrick Roche fitz Maurice; Edward Roche fitz Morrish, brother; Maurice Roche, brother; Edmund Roche fitz Dominick of Kinsale; John Roche fitz John.

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1666 - cont'd. • James Roch McHenry, property Ballydunyne, GARRETT ROCH, living in Carentobarmore, the Barony of Cahirdougan parish. Middle Third (later Co Tipperary), Parish of Knockgrapfford • Redmond Roch, Irish papist, property Killnacone, and Outerath Ends, [Source:1666 Hearth Records]. Cahirdougan Parish. • FitzJohn Roch, property Scrubboe, Glanmor parish • Redmond Roch fitz James, Irish papist, property • Theobald Roch, property Killathy, Killathy parish. Carrandrolan, Lackbrack, Carrigdononan parish. • Theobald Roch, minor heir of Ulicke Roch, Irish • Ulicke Roch of Ballydangan, property papist, property Rohan, Ballymcleely, Raghan Carrigdononan, Carrigdononan parish. parish • Ulicke Roch fitz John, property CastleKiffin, • Theobald Roch, property Feedonsheedon, Ballingrane, Rahduffe, Clenor parish. , Raghan Parish • Ulicke Roch, property Killure, Ballygowne, Clenor • Theobald Roch, minor, property Knockbracke, parish. Monny, Raghan Parish • Maurice Fitz Richard Roche of Dunderrow, will • Lord Roch, Pierce Roch, Irish papist, property filed, Co Cork Ballyheene and Ballinvogher, Castletown; • Edmund Fitz Ed. Roche, Cork, merchant, admin. Ballinterma, Bridgeroone, Park I Cunna, Killhomer, grant Clanmore, Ballinglogh, Ballydoghe and Ballyhorin, • Maurice Fitz Ed. Roche, gent., Cork, admin. grant. Ballomalteberg, Lisnagormine and Killestaline, Ballchimacke, Ardkittihine, Killballilogan, Ballinelick, Killiroderry, Garreskalo, Grange, 1667 Balledagh, all Castletowne parish. • Redmond Roch, property Drumgrath and The Inch • Lord Roch, Irish papist, property Carrighnane, of Fermoy Laskee, Killord/Killworth parish Raghan parish • Maurice Roch, property Monerabane, Pharthy • Lord Roch, property Carrighonane, Mclaro parish parish • Lord Roch, Irish papist, property Ballinhallick, • James Roch of Cork, gent., Admin. Bond Ballynovlan, Carrigdonoman parish • James Fitz John Roche, will filed, Co Cork • Lord Roch, property Ballytrasnagh, Wallstowne parish 1668 • Lord Roch, property GortonConsty, Clenor parish • John Roch fitz Ulicke, property Curragh Igalls, • Lord Roch, Irish papist, property Ballonebrylabogg, Glanmor parish Ballostskell, Rathmarycony, Ballthey parish. • James Roach fitzWilliam, property Killough, • Morris Roch, Irish papist, property Ballovosky, Glanmor parish Raghan parish • Redmond Roch, property Ballyhinden, Killcrumper • Morris Roch, property Ballyellish, Ballydahin, parish Carriganshoneene, Mclaro parish • Redmond Roch, property Kilberine, Cahirdougan • Maurice Lord Roch, property Balladonall, parish KarraghTherry, Cahirdougan parish. • Lord Roch, Irish Papist, property Cregg, Templance, • Maurice Lord Roch, property Drumdier, Clenor Knockanig, Cregg O Lampry, Clough, Clondale parish. Parish • Maurice Roch, property Killure, Ballygowne, • Lord Roch, Irish papist, property Ballyhay Castle, Ballygrany, Kippagh, Clenor parish. Ballyhay parish • Edmond Roch, Irish papist, property Cahirdougan, • Theobald Roch, heir of Ulicke Roch, Irish papist, Cahirdougan parish property • Edmond Roch, property Killure, Clenor parish • Shaneballymore, Castlercan, Templeman parish • Edmond Roch, property East Dromagh, West • John Roche of Ballannowne, property Shonagh, Dromagh, Templerrenty parish. Ballomone, Ballyhanroache, Killelagarnsany, • James Roch fitz Dominick, Mallow, property Graige, Templeruan, Gleabe Lead, Clagher, Richardstowne, Glencomore, Carraghashonsy, Caringhloagh, Templerman parish Cahirdougan parish. • John Roche of Ballyvoskie, d. of w., will filed, Co Cork 33

• John Roche of Ballinluge, Bar. Kinsale, died 12 Rathgogan, as well as the abbey of Bridgetown in May. John was son of Philip, brother Edm. Roche, Glanworth. nephew Michael Roche Last will to Clara Coppinger, wife, left lands in Ballinluge, 1675 Ballinnulage, Killeney, Farranteelane, and the grist mill at Ballihifaird, in barony of Kinsale, leases of Amy Roche of Cloyne, widow, Admin. Bond Cork Curmuraghue, Ballinconane and Killigreny, then to John Roch of Ballindangin, Admin. Bond Cork son, Philip Roche three parkes at Aradeacon's Ulicke Roch of Ballindangin, Admin. Bond Cork mills, and property at Clogh Leagh,

Parkicackskybag, Partinicaunton, house and garden in north suburbs of Cork. Also bequests to 1676 daughters, Brother Edmund Roche, nephew Ed. Fitz Maurice Roche of Cork, merchant, admin. grant Michael Roche, Mary Roche, Edmund Roche, also his claim to the succession of Edmund Roche 1677 against Patrick and Edward Roche, according to All post-secondary national education in Ireland had been the two awards of the Earle of Clancarty and Capt. destroyed, except for those of the . Daniel Dongan. Masses for self and wife, uncle Every Irish student had to seek it in exile - with or without Philip Roche. Bequest also to sister Margaret resources. One can imagine the impact - every ambitious Meade. [2nd son of family of Poulanelong and gifted Irishman or those called the Old English had to anciently given ploughland of Ballinluge, scatter all over Europe, which in turn benefitted from their Ballinnulluge, Killeney, Farrantellane, the Grist mill current and especially future contributions, while Ireland of Bealthifield, plowland of Bellingrass and 8 acres foundered. Only those who sought the monastery could of Nahilleagh, 40 acres of Brownstone in barony of ever later contribute to their country of origin - and some Keerricurrihy, left to John by his father, Patrick would debate that. Roche, plus Houses and gardens in Kinsale; when lands recovered, to revert to son, Philip. • Richard Roche, son of George Roche, esq., 1678 Limerick. Born. Graduated Trinity 1691 Alderman Dominic, b. 1630 - d, 1701, (descendent of Jordan onge Roche --- Jordan hanged in 1651, Newcastle, • Francis FitzEdward Roche esq. Cork, prerogative Co Limerick) after forfeiting much land and property in will filed 1656-7, again holding property in 1678. • Francis Fitz Edward Roche of Trabolgan, Cork, will

filed, Co Cork. 1679

Martha Roche m. Robert Lundie, Cloyne 1669

Maurice Fitz Ed. Roche of Cork, esq., prerog. will Edmond Fitz Ed. Roche of Cork, esq., admin grant 1680 • At Michaelmas Mathew La Roch, goldsmith - Huguenot - Admitted as Freeman of Dublin using 1670 an Act of Parliament passed in 1661 to 'encourage Maurice Roche of Fermoy (rebel) dies. Protestant strangers and others to inhabit and Edmund Roche of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond plant in the . • Joane Roch and James Candy, marriage license 1671 bond, Cork Francis Fitz Ed. Roche of Cork, esq., prerog. will • Margaret Roch and Pierse Goold, marriage license bond, Cork • 1672 John Roch of Ballynicanon, trustee, executor, proved will, 20 March, Cork James Roch of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond • Daniel Roche, witness, proved will, 23 March,

Kerry 1674 Colonel David Roche, Viscount Fermoy, petitions seeking restoration of lands in Carriglemleary, castle of Derryvillane, Does-castle, castle of Ballygogan, castle of

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1681 1688 • Patrick Roche, mayor of Cork Lord David Roche of Fermoy was thrown in prison in • John Roche fz Patrick, esq., sworn a burgess, London , a great object of charity to quote the Earl of Arran Kinsale, March 30 in a letter to the Duke of Ormond in Dublin. David died that • Edward Roche and Patrick Roche to repair same year , without offspring, and having served in the guardhouse, Kinsale army of Charles II. His offense is not recorded. • Patrick Roche and 3 others to audit chamberlain's John, brother of David was next in line for a worthless title, accts, Kinsale Viscount of Fermoy (the 9th). But, in 1674, Charles had • given him and his two sisters, Amye and Blanche, a pension Thomas Roche sworn constable, 8 Oct, Low Fisher of 200 pounds a year until some vacancy become available St., Kinsale in the establishment. He married Catherine Condon, and • Edward Roche apptd examiner of petition (1 of 4), they had two sons and a daughter Eleanor. Kinsale.

1682 James II deposed -- William III 1688-1702 & Mary 1688-94 James Roach, gent., of Kilworth, Co. Cork, com. grant. declared Joint Monarchs

1683 1689 Elizabeth Roch of Cork, widow, Admin. Bond James Roch ( James the Swimmer ) born at Kinsale, only son of George Roch of Tourin and Glyn (Glen), Colonel in the Elizabeth Roch and James Blanchflower, marriage license Williamite army, swam to fame in the Catholic siege of bond, Cork Londonderry. He swam between the town and the fleet of Redmond Roch, esq., of Ballyhinden, Co. Cork, prerog. will. General Kirke, barred from entry by a boom placed in Lough Foyle. He carried dispatches and was wounded in 1684 action four times by Catholics shooting at him from the river bank. Originally rewarded by William III with fifteen James Roche of Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork estates and toll collections from certain ferries in Ireland, James Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork he later lost the estates by the Act of Resumption and many lawsuits against him. James II 1685-88 In lieu, he requested of the Crown an estate in Co 1685-1705 French Huguenots seek asylum in Ireland - some Waterford (forfeited lands - 1425 acres - of James Everard) of the Roche name (and its Continental variants) among and a sum of money. There are several variations of this them. For more on the Roche-Huguenot connection, see: story - including Roch's burial in Churchtown graveyard at Descendants of Huguenots of La Rochelle, France which a scathing eulogy in Gaelic was supposed to have caused his headstone to split in two - fanciful but colorful???

Patrick Roche named overseer, Kinsale 1686 Patrick Roche, one of auditors of chamberlain's accts., Anne Roch m. Morgan Higgins, in Cloyne Kinsale John Roch of Kineigh, Admin. Bond Cork. Thomas Roche sworn constable of Lower Fysher St., Kinsale. 1687 • John Roach of Kinegh, gent., Admin. Bond Cork • Philip Roche, merch., apptd bailiff, Middletown • Thomas Roche apptd warden, Kinsale • Dominick Roche, sworn free, Kinsale • John Roche petitioned for collectors place at Moyallo.

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1691 Catherine (Heyman) Roch and Thomas Meade, marriage 1690-1 --- William of Orange/Battle of the Boyne --- William license bond, Cork. defeats King James II & the Treaty of Limerick penalizes public worship by RCs and Presbyterians 1691-98 "Outlaws" ----James Roch of Island Finch, gent., Co Cork, outlawed ----Maurice Roch of Kinsale, gent., Co Cork, outlawed 1690 "Outlaws" ----John Roch, son of John of Gallylooge, gent., Co Cork, outlawed ----David Roche of Agharne, esq., Cork, outlawed for high ----Philip Roch of Peinbelong, gent., Co Cork, outlawed treason: ----James Roch of Island Finch, gent., Co Cork, outlawed ----Philip Roch of Brickfieldstone, esq., Cork, outlawed ----Patrick Roch, called Roch of Fountainestown, gent., Co ----James Roch of Farta, gent., Cork, outlawed Cork, outlawed ----Michael Roch of Powlenelong, esq., Cork, outlawed ----Philip Roch of Ballinthes, gent., Co Cork, outlawed ----James Roch of Ballymisig, gent., Cork, outlawed ----David Roch of Ardlinbridge, gent., Co Cork, outlawed ----James Roch of Fartagh, gent., Cork, outlawed ----Richard Roch of Kinsale, gent., Cork, outlawed ----Maurice Roch of Kinsale, gent., Cork, outlawed 1692 ----John Roch of Kinsale, esq., Cork, outlawed John Roch, Wexford, gent., pardoned ----James Roch of Kinsale, esq., Cork, outlawed Patrick Roche of Nohevall, farmer, Admin. Bond Cork ----David Roch of Eniskean, esq., Cork, outlawed ----John Roch of Baltymore, esq., Cork, outlawed Major James Roch of Kilgany, Co Waterford - pardoned 6 ----Joasus Roch of Knocknamanna, gent., Cork, outlawed May. ----James Roch of Kinneary, gent., Cork, outlawed ----Maurice Roch of Kinsale, gent., Cork, outlawed 1693 ----Stephen Roch of Curnarnahy, gent., Cork, outlawed George Roche, born, son of Richard Roche, clergyman, ----Stephen Roch, merch., Cork City, outlawed Limerick. At Trinity in 1709. ----Dominick Roch, vintner, Cork City, outlawed ----Andrew Roch, gent., Cork City, outlawed ----Theobald Roch of Ballydahin, esq., Co Cork, outlawed 1693 Elizabeth Roch and Thomas Thompson, marriage license 1690 bond, Cork • Edward Roche, provost/sovereigne of Kinsale Richard Roch and Isabella Busby, marriage license bond, Philip Roch of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond. Cork • John Roch FitzEdward, gent., Kilkenny City James Roch (Colonel - the Swimmer) married Elizabeth, dau of William Gough, g. dau of Dr. Francis Gough, C of I Bishop • Patrick Roch of Keirane, gent., Co Wexford of Limerick. They later had a daughter, Mary, b. 1694 and a • John Roch of Ballyardin, gent., Co Wexford son, William, b. 1695. • Edward Roch of Ballyardin, gent., Co Wexford • David Roch of Wexford, gent., Co Wexford 1694 • Edmund Roch of Killahally, gent., Co Waterford John, brother of David, son of Maurice of Fermoy dies. • Edward Roch of Curragheene, gent., Co Waterford O'Hart has him killed fighting for James II in the Battle of Aughrim, 1691, but The Complete Peerage disagrees - a • David Roch of Curragheene, gent., Co Waterford genealogist's delight! • Edward Roch of Curragheene, gent., Co Waterford David Roche succeeds his father. He was an officer in the • John Roch of Hussabegg, gent., Co Clare Royal Navy, but drowned at Plymouth in a great storm in • 1690 Edward Roche sworn sovereigne for ensuing 1703 year, Kinsale - 29 Sept. Phillip Roche, probate, 15 Aug, Co Cork Dominick Roch of Cahirvagha, Co Limerick, pardoned - 23 Nov Edmund Roch of Dunderrow, Co Cork, outlawry, pardoned - 8 June.

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• He could not attend Catholic worship. 1695 - 1728 against Catholics were enacted to • He was compelled by law to attend Protestant strip the "backward" Catholic population of remaining land, worship. positions of influence and civil rights. • He could not himself educate his child. • He could not send his child to a Catholic teacher. Catholics could no longer practice law, run for elected • He could not employ a Catholic teacher to come to office, purchase land, or own property (such as horses) his child. valued at more than 5 pounds. By 1778, Irish Catholics would own a mere 5% of Irish land. The Catholic • He could not send his child abroad to receive educational system was outlawed, and priests who did not education. conform to the laws could be branded on the face or castrated. Catholic clergy were banished and forbidden to Lecky said in his " in the 18th Century" keep registers (a modern genealogists worst nightmare). As that the object of the Penal Laws was threefold: "To a result, Catholic services and education were forced deprive Catholics of all civil life; to reduce them to a underground. condition of extreme, brutal ignorance; and, to disassociate Professor Lecky a British Protestant and ardent British them from the soil." Lecky said, "He might, with absolute sympathizer outlined the Penal Laws as follows: justice, substitute Irish for Catholic," and added a fourth • The Irish Catholic was forbidden the exercise of his objective: "To expatriate the race." religion. • He was forbidden to receive education. 1697 • He was forbidden to enter a profession. Joseph Roche (Roach), born, son of George Roche, alderman, Limerick. At Trinity 1717 • He was forbidden to hold public office.

• He was forbidden to engage in trade or commerce. 1697 Thomas Roch of Ringcurrane, mariner, Admin. Bond • He was forbidden to live in a corporate town or Cork. within five miles thereof.

• He was forbidden to own a horse of greater value than five pounds. 1699 • He was forbidden to own land. Francis Roch of Limerick, Co Limerick, pardoned 3 June. Irish follower of King James II, 1685-1699, outlawed and • He was forbidden to lease land. pardoned by King William III, 1689-99. • He was forbidden to accept a mortgage on land in Julian Roch m. Edmund Cudmore, Cloyne security for a loan. William Roche, born, son of George Roche, Alderman, • He was forbidden to vote. Limerick. Grad Trinity 1721. • He was forbidden to keep any arms for his

protection. 1700 • He was forbidden to hold a life annuity.

• He was forbidden to buy land from a Protestant. Charles De La Roche, Huguenot, having previously been an • He was forbidden to receive a gift of land from a assistant to Rev. Balaguier in Portarlington and having Protestant. served at Clonmel in 1699, was a minister of the French • He was forbidden to inherit land from a Church from 1700-1702 at St. Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin - Protestant. sharing space with their hosts. By 1706, he was chaplain to Col. Fontjulian of Lord River's Brigade. • He was forbidden to inherit anything from a Protestant. Col. James Roch, the Swimmer, second marriage to Elizabeth, dau of Benjamin Hammerton. They had a son, • He was forbidden to rent any land that was worth James, b. 1702 more than 30 shillings a year. • He was forbidden to reap from his land any profit exceeding a third of the rent. • He could not be guardian to a child. • He could not, when dying, leave his infant children under Catholic guardianship.

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1701 Act of Settlement: Toward the end of 1700 William III was 1704 - Penal Code Addendum - RCs denied vote and right to ill and childless; his sister-in-law, the prospective queen, military service Anne, had just lost her only surviving child; and abroad the supporters of the exiled king, James II, were active. It was 1704 therefore decreed that, in default of issue to either William or Anne, the crown was to pass to Sophia, electress of David Roch and Mary Hughes, marriage license bond, Cork Hanover, granddaughter of James I, and to "the heirs of her Annstas Roche and Henry Meskill, marriage license bond, body being Protestants." The act thus paved the way for Cork the accession of the House of Hanover in 1714 after the Catherine Roche and Gilbert Harper, marriage lic. bond, reign of Queen Anne (1702-1714). Cork Honor Roch and Daniel Kenelly, marriage license bond, Cork Luke Roche and Jane Whitford, marriage lic. bond, Cork.

Anne I - 1702-14 1705 Mary Roche and Thomas MacNamara, marriage license 1702-41 bond, Cork. James Roch, as above, born at Glyn Castle, near Carrick on Suir, later of Dungarvan, twice married. 1706 Anne Roche and William Tensley, marriage lic. bond, Cork 1702 Edward Roche and Elizabeth Browne, marriage license bond, Cork George Roche [Protestant] was Mayor and became an MP Mary Roche and Isaac Harding, marriage lic. bond, Cork for Limerick. A practical family, where land and property were concerned, they hedged their bets (some RC and 1707 some C of I), and burnt or 'lost' records, a great shame for present historians, but extremely pragmatic. Phillip Roche of Kilbrogan, Admin. Bond Cork Catherine Roch and James Galway, marriage license bond, Phillip Roche of St. Finbarr, mariner, Admin. Bond Cork Cork James Roche and Joan/Jane Roche, marriage license bond, Catherine Roche and Edmund Allen, marriage license bond, Cork Cork Maurice Roche and Mary Meskell, marriage license bond, 1708 Cork. Alexander Roche m. Bridget Synnott, Cloyne Ellen Roch and William Power, marriage license bond, Cork 1703 Mary Roche and Nicholas Cook, marriage lic. bond, Cork.

Ulicke Roche succeeds to the dormant title Viscount of 1709 - Over 6500 German Palatines settle in Ireland; 200 Fermoy on the drowning death of his brother David at families leave for Britain the following year, 1710 Plymouth. He was a poor man occasionally receiving some financial aid from the English establishment. He married a widow, Anne Purcell of Northumberland and died childless 1709 in 1733. His widow outlived him by thirty years, but still Jon. Roche esq. of Ballyfiarde, Admin. Bond Cork styled herself the Viscountess of Fermoy in her Will. Bridget Roche and John Rice, marriage license bond, Cork Ellinor Roch m. David Cooshine, Cloyne Phillip Roche and Mary Hungerford, marriage lic.bond, Cork Luke Roche of St. Finbarry, mariner, Admin. Bond Cork Richard Roche and Catherine Archdeacon, marriage license 1710 bond, Cork. Andrew Roch and Mary Lovekin, marriage lic. bond, Cork

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1711 1794 Edward Roche esq. of Trabolgan and his wife, Mrs. Mary George Roche and Mary Wood, marriage lic. bond, Cork Archdeacon, of Monkstown, both died in the same hour 23 John Roche of Skibbereen, will filed, Co Cork. Jan. Castle on the Bandon River, owned by Roches who also owned its village, Dunderrowe. 1720

Thomas Roche of St. Mary Shandon, Admin. Bond Cork 1712 George Roche and Mary Manton, marriage lic. bond, Cork Patrick Roche and Mary Ray, marriage license bond, Cork James Roche and Honor Barry, marriage license bond, Cork Sibill Roche and Thomas Price, marriage license bond, Cork Richard Roche and Joanna Allin, marriage lic. bond, Cork

Theobald Roche and Honora Callaghans, marriage license 1713 bond, Cork Elizabeth Roche m. John Meade, Cloyne

George Roche MP (and in 1715). He was Mayor of Limerick 1721 in 1702 and again in 1721 Garret Roche m. Catherine McAllister, Cloyne John Roche, born, son of Richard Roche, gent., Dublin. At Trinity, 1729 James Roche and Catherine Cowrcey, marriage license bond, Cork Jane Roche and John Gwykin, marriage license bond, Cork.

1722 1714 Col. James Roch, the Swimmer, died that December, aged Roche v. Roche: Ireland; Court of the Chancery; Six Clerks 65 years Office: Pleadings 1678, Bridges, National Archives, Kew, UK - Ruling 1714 Jane Roche and John Bickford, marriage license bond, Cork Danan v Roche; Ireland; Court of the Chancery; Six Clerks Luke Roche and Joana Vickery, marriage lic. bond, Cork Office: Pleadings 1678, Bridges, National Archives, Kew, UK Margaret Roche and John Searls, marriage lic. bond, Cork. - Ruling 1714 Thomas Roche of St. Peters, painter, Admin. Bond Cork 1723 Anne Roche and Robert Mason, marriage lic. bond, Cork Mary Roche m. Clement Skiddy, Cloyne Edmond Roche esq. of Ringabelly, Co Cork, prerogative Will Maurice Roch of Ardnegeehy, Admin. Bond Cork filed.

1724 George I (1714-27 --- first of the House of Hanover) • Rev Paul Roche PP Wexford founds the Roche Bourse (seminary) at Louvain - it remained in 1715 operation until WWI Margaret Roche and John Lane, marriage lic. bond, Cork. • David Roche m. Margaret Plunkett, Cloyne • Thomas Roche of Britway, farmer, Admin. Bond 1716 Cloyne Diocese Mary Roche and Francis Flaherty, marriage lic.bond, Cork • Elinor Roch and John Hartt, marriage license bond, Edward Roche of Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork Cork • Edward Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork. John Roche of Kinsale, d. of w., will filed, Co Cork • John Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork 1717 • July 25 Richard Roch, witness, proved will, Cork Phillip Roche of Tullagh, gent., Admin. Bond Cork Andrew Roche of Carrune, Will filed, Co Cork. 1726 Catherine Roche m. Thomas Power, Cloyne 1719 Maurice Roche of Ballytibbitt, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Cork John Roache, father of Redmond and William, born. Died

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1727 became extinct when Ulicke Roche died in 1733. Various reputed cousins appear around this time, as must have been the case previously, and there is evidence that other Andrew Roche of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond branches of the family (like Ulicke's - below) held land in Mary Roch and Frances Kearney, marriage lic. bond, Cork the area late into the 1700s. Toxteth Roch, Limerick, alderman - died 4 Jan. Toxteth Roch, will proved 21 March. Wife, Ann. Children - William Roche of Ballylegane, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of Ann, Elizabeth, Catherine, Richard, Francis, & Thomas. I, Cork.

George II ---1727-60 1734 Arthur Roche second Bailiff of Limerick - Mayor in 1743,

1756 and 1760

George Roche, born, son of Arthur Roche, gent., Limerick. 1728

Catherine Roche of Cacturk, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of 1735 I, Cork John Roche, born, brother of Patrick and Michael Luke Roche, mariner: Executor of William Holland, Kinsale, Ireland - Bundle 27, Part II, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Mary Roch and George Thompson, marriage lic. bond, Cork - Filed Engrossed Eighteenth Century Inventories. John Roche, gent., of Thibbereen, Co. Cork, admin. grant.

1729 1736 Philip Roche of Cork, Admin. Bond Philip Roche and Elizabeth Norris, marriage lic. bond, Cork Catherine Roche and John Watts, marriage lic. bond, Cork. Theobald Roche and Joan Copinger, marriage license bond, Cork.

1730 1737 James Roch and Melian Holmes, marriage lic. bond, Cork James Roche of Cork, merch., Admin. Bond Catherine Roche and Patrick Galwy, marriage lic. bond, William Roch and Catherine Cogan, marriage lic.bond, Cork Cork. John Roche of Carrignagrough, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Cork. 1731 Maurice Roche of Cork, gent., Admin. Bond 1738 Jane Roche and George Chapman, marriage lic. bond, Cork Alice Roche and John Swetnam, marriage lic. bond, Cork David Roche of d. of w., will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Francis Roche and Ann Dodge, marriage license bond, Cork Cork. Margaret Roche and Sylvester Nunan, marriage license bond, Cork 1732 David, son of George, Alderman and second Bailiff of David Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork Limerick - Mayor the next year, 1739. Martha Roch and Abraham Chatterton, marriage license bond, Cork 1739 Rev. Henry Roche, Dean of Ferns; PP Nicholas Roche and 1733 Paul Roche PP, Co Wexford. Ulicke Roche, commonly called Lord Viscount Fermoy, prerogative will filed, Cork ---- the main line at Fermoy 1740-1 became extinct when Ulicke Roche died without offspring. James Roch, son of James the Swimmer, succeeded by his Given the flight of Maurice to Flanders and the hanging of eldest son James of Odell Hall and Woodbine Lodge. He too his wife (Ellen Power Roche) at Castletownroche, a century married twice and had two children, a dau Melian (1st earlier, I can't explain much of what happened in the marriage) who later married Sampson Roch and had three interim - at least not in any rational way. The extended sons, and George Butler (2nd marriage) 1784-1859. George family is said to have declined into genteel poverty with the of Woodbine Hill, Co. Waterford in turn was succeeded by occasional handout from wealthy sympathizers. But there is eldest son George of Woodbine Hill and Rochestown, Co. a body of opinion which claims that the main line at Fermoy Cork 1819-1894. 40

1740 1747 John Roche, born, father of David. Died 1816 George Roch of Bandon, merch., Admin. Bond Cork John Roche of Douglas, Cork, Admin. Bond Eliz. Roche, widow, prerog. will, Cork George Roche, Limerick, Esq. 13 June 1740. Codicil 4 Dec. John Roche of Ballindangan, cousin to Ulicke, who had 1740. Narrate, 1 p., 14 May 1741. His wife Mary Roche, assumed title of Lord Roche, a general officer in King of extx. Francis Bindon and David Bindon, both of Dublin, Sardinia's Service, was sent several times to prevent French Esqrs., trustees. His sons David and Joseph Roche. Towns and Spaniards passing the Alps into Italy. He was honored and lands of Ballybigg, Co. Cork. Faranfierish [Farranferris] for his "brave defence" at Augusta, Exiles and Casal where in the city of Cork. Several houses and tenements in city of with 600 men he was besieged for 32 days against an army Cork, and all other lands etc. in the city, the county of the of 25,000. He was a prisoner of war, but returned to the city and the county of Cork. Will and codicil witnessed by: King of Sardinia's army in June 1747. Some reports have Samuel Bindon, Templemongreld of the city of Limerick, him dying that year and other in 1777 (without mention of Esq., Ann Bindon, spinster, daughter of said Samuel Bindon, a Christian name - surname only). Burke's Dormant Francis Mold, then of said city of Limerick and now of Peerages, 1866, say that following his death, the title was Dublin, spinster. Memorial witnessed by: Frances Mold, not assumed until Roche of Trabolgan was Thos. Gloster, Limerick, gent. & Thos. Caffery, Dublin, elevated to the Peerage almost a hundred years later as yeoman. Baron Fermoy (10 September 1856). Yet see 1788 - Jordan Roche. [The Trabolgan Peerage was Baron - and created - not an assumption of the rank of Viscount]. At this point, 1741 the whole matter begins to verge on the ridiculous! Philip Roche of Cork, gent., Admin. Bond

Mary Roche and Dennis McCarthy, marriage lic. bond, Cork. 1748

Edmond Roche and Barbara Hennessy, marriage license 1742 bond, Cork John Roche of Cork, gent., Admin. Bond Margaret Roche, spinster, admin. grant, Cork John Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork James Roche, esq., admin. grant, Cork. Elen Roche and Edward Smith, marriage license bond, Cork. 1749 1743 • Thos. Roche, merchant of Limerick, m. in Dublin, Thomas Roche and Ann Evanson, marriage lic. bond, Cork Miss F. Archbold, dau. of Jas. Archbold, merchant, Martha Roche and Francis Townsend, marriage license Bride St., Limerick 24 June bond, Cork. • Ellen Roche of Cork, shopkeeper, Admin. Bond • James Roche and Cassandra Parker, marriage 1744 license bond, Cork Edmd. Roche of Cork, shopkeeper, Admin. Bond • Mary Roche and Thomas Harris, marriage lic. Ellinor Roche of Cork (d. Of w.), will filed, Co Cork bond, Cork Benjamin Roche of Limerick died 13 Feb • John Roche of Dromskeny, land suit, Barony of Dunhallow, Cork Benjamin Roche of Limerick, will proved 24 April; executor brother, Arthur Roche of Limerick. • James Roch of Killarney, will filed, Cork • Joseph Ulicke Roche, admin. grant, Cork 1745 • James Roche of Dublin, esq., admin. grant Sarah Roche and Robert Stevelly, marriage lic. bond, Cork • James Roch of Co. Cork, com. grant. James Roche of Dublin, esq., admin. grant. 1750 1746 Ann Roche and John Hales, marriage license bond, Cork John Roche of Glin, Co Limerick, yeoman, witness in suit. Edmond Roch of Cork, esq., prerogative will filed James Roche, admin. grant, Cork.

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1751 Ellen orw Roche, White, of Ballynotty, Co. Limerick, admin. Michael Roche, born, brother of Patrick and John, died grant. 1807 Walter Roche of Dublin, admin. grant. 1758 Patrick Roche of Ballywenus, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of 1752 I, Cork Maurice Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork Catherine Roche of Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork Thomas Roche and Susanna Benfield, marriage license Catherine Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork bond, Cork William Roche of Lissahane, Co. Cork, gent., prerog. will. Frances Roch (Roche) and Butler Townsend, marriage license bond, Cork. Townsend at Trinity College, 1723; 1759 priest at Cork, 1743. Frances dau. of John Roche, West • Catherine Roche, dau. of John Roche of Limerick Carberry. No issue m. James Lombard Nov 22 John Roche and Ellen Duvane, marriage license bond, Cork. • Andrew Roche of Bandon, will proved, Cork.

• Philip Roche, gent., of Ballinluge, Co Cork, 1753 prerogative will filed Richard Roch, Colemanna, Co Carlow - Leighlin Wills 1652- • Andrew Roche of Bandon, will filed, Co Cork 1800 • Philip Roche of Cork, merchant, prerog. will. James Roche, born, son of Edmund Roche, soldier, Cork. Trinity 1769 Francis Roche of Hollyhill, will filed, Co Cork 1760 Edmond Roche of Cork, esq., prerog. will. • Edmond Roche of Cork, shopkeeper, Admin. Bond • Mary Roche of Kinsale, spinster, Admin. Bond Cork 1754 • Richard Roche of Castleisland, Kerry, will filed, Cork • Barbara Roche m. Thomas Allen, Cloyne • David Roche or Roch of Carroughgorrum, will filed, • Francis Roche, coach maker of Cork, prerogative Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Cork will filed. • James Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork. • Francis Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork

• Kerry William Roche, gent., of Lissahane, Co. Kerry, prerog. will Roche's Mint, King Street, Dublin - By 1760 small coppers were scarce in Ireland. No royal Irish farthings had been • Francis Roche of Trabolgan, Co. Cork, admin grant. issued since 1744 and no royal Irish halfpence since 1755. Both were to be minted in 1760, but did not arrive in 1755 Ireland until 1762. So underweight Voce Populi farthings William Roache, son of John Roache, born. Died 1802. and halfpence appeared in Dublin, all with the date 1760. They have been attributed to a man named Roche, a button

maker and may have been produced through 1761 using 1756 the same dies. Production seems to have stopped by 1762 John Roche of Timoleague, will filed, Co Cork when the regal 1760 coppers finally arrived, but both the John Roche of Timoleague, will proved, Cork regal and Voce coppers continued to circulate. Over time, they were replaced by regal George III Irish halfpence, but Hellen orw Roche, White, Glin, Co. Limerick, admin. grant. there were also many lightweight counterfeit and imitation Irish coppers in use. 1757 John Ward, (tax) collector for Ross, Co Wexford, petitions the Commissioner of Revenue for Ireland in Dublin requesting instructions on how to account for money belonging to the Crown but stolen from his mansion by Thomas Roche, William Cleary and others [27 Jan 1757]. David Roch of Lisduff, farmer, Admin. Bond Cork

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1769 Mary Roche orw. Byrne, admin. grant, Cork. George III 1760-1820 1770 1761 Mary Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork • William Roche of Shanballymore Wife of John Roche, Clerk of St. Paul's Church, Cork - died • Thomas Roche of Ballyhiniak May 11. • Francis Roche of Cork, clothier, Admin. Bond James Roche born (1770-1853) author of "Essays of an Octogenarian" pursued a career in business and politics in • David Roche of Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork Paris, Bordeaux and Cork. • David Roche of Kinsale, will proved in Cork • Catherine Roach m. last week at St. Peter's Church, 1771 Cork to Mr. Henry Sanders of Charleville, Gent. Edward Roche, born, son of Edmund Roche, gent., Cork. (Faulkner's Dublin Journal...22 Dec 1761 - Misc. Trinity 1789. Newspaper Notices Ireland) Captain David Roche, 1770s (English or Irish) - wrote a book

about the duel he had with a Lieut. Ferguson on his way to 1762 India in 1771 at the Cape of Good Hope. The book was, "A William Roche of Cork City Plain And Circumstantial Account of the Transactions Thomas Roche of Kinsale Between Capt. Roche and Lieut. Ferguson from their First Meeting to the Death of Lieut. Ferguson: The Trial and John Roche of HMS Torbay, will filed, Co Cork Depositions at the Cape of Good Hope" London; Sold by G. Margaret Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork. Allen, No. 59, Pater Noster Row, MDCCLXXV. David Roche, Esq. obtained a Captain's command in the 1763 service of the HEIC (Honourable East India Company) in James Roche listed at Trinity College May 1772. He and his wife embarked on board the Vansittart for Bombay. During the voyage, Ferguson George Roche of Bandon, clothier, Admin. Bond Cork repeatedly tried to provoke Roche and once asked him to Ellen Roche, Admin. Bond Cork duel. Ashore at the Cape, September 4, 1773, Roche was Anna Maria (Purcell) Roche, Viscountess Fermoy, taking a walk around 5 pm when he was attacked by prerogative will filed, Cork. Ferguson. In the fight that ensued, Ferguson was killed. Capt. Roche later took a French ship to Bombay, provided 1764 by the Dutch Governor at the Cape of Good Hope. He had been imprisoned in Bombay but was later acquitted. By Francis Roche of Cork, coach maker, prerog. will 1775 he was back in England. Mary Roche of Cork, widow, admin. grant.

1772-95 Catholic Relief Acts gradually restore rights taken 1765 away under the Penal Laws - it would be another decade Died -- Wife of Thomas Roche of Limerick. before they could own land.

1766 1772 Patrick Roche, Garristowne, Co Carlow - Leighlin Wills 1652- John Roache - died March 27 - Castletownroche 1800 Margaret Roche of St. Finbarrys, widow, Admin. Bond Cork William Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork 1767 Rev. George Roche Mayor of Limerick. Edmund Roche appointed Justice of Peace for Cork, 28 Dec Thomas Roach, Gerrenleen, Co Carlow - Prerogative Wills 1774 1536-1810 John Roach born in Tintern Parish, Co Wexford. He married there and was among the first Roaches of Avalon in 1768 Newfoundland without a wife but with Irish-born son, John Roche Jr. of Cork m. Peggy Ellis of Brown St., Cork - 14 Nicholas. John died in NF in 1841 aged 67 years. March. Francis Roche esq. - seat recorded as Holly-hill 43

1775 1783 John Roche, witness, proved will, Cork - Aug 19. Stephen Roche Jr. of Limerick John Roche esq., Limerick 1776 John Roche, witness, proved will, 27 March, Cork. John Roche esq., only son of Philip Roche esq. of Limerick City m. Miss Whyte, dau. of Chas. Whyte esq. of Granby 1784 Row, Cork - Oct 14 Tobias Roach, of Carriganes, born. Died June 1864. Mary Roch m. Joseph King, Cloyne

Thomas Roche of Dublin, esq., Prerogative Wills 1536-1810. 1785

John Roche of Killarney, Co Kerry 1777 Cassandra Roche of Carhue, will filed, Co Cork Nicholas Roch, Colemanna, Co Carlow - Leighlin Wills 1652- Widow of Philip Roche d. March 3 at Clougheen nr. 1800 Clonskilty aged 100 years Grace Roch m. John Atkinson, Cloyne Joan ROCHE wife of John DUANE - he died 1777 age 44 - Miss Roche, niece of Philip Roche, Limerick m. John Meade, Mologga Cemetery, Templemologga/Kildorrery area, North- son of Thomas Meade, linen draper, 10 Sept. East Co Cork. 1786 1778 Gerard Roache of Killarney, Co Kerry James Roche (otherwise WOULFE) executed for the theft of Thomas Roche, ship chandler on the Quay, Limerick died 26 14 sheep from Derby SULLIVAN of . All such March. executions took place at Gallows Green (present-day Lough Road), Co Cork. 1787 Nicholas Roche, born, son of Benjamin Roche, gent., Co • Melian Roch m. Sampson Roch, Cloyne Carlow. At Trinity 1792. • William Roche, merch. and cooper, Sand St., Cork

• 1779 James Roche, grocer, Barrack St., Cork • Francis Roche, d age 55, Mologga Cemetery, Co Cork Francis Roche, shopkeeper, N. Main St., Cork • John Roche m. Catherine Sandys, Cloyne William Roche, mercer, 11 Grand Parade, Cork Thomas Roche, footman, Kenmare Estate • William Roche, cooper, Dominick St., Cork John Roche, son to Nicholas Roche, property Coollicky • Andrew Roche, perfumer, George's St., Cork (Kenmare Estate records). • William Roche, coast surveyor, Youghall. • David Roche, tanner, Youghall 1780 • Julian Roche, apothecary, Youghall David Roche m. Mary Rea, Cloyne • James Roche, gent., of Droumanaragill, Co Cork, David Roche, mariner HMS Ambuscade, will filed, Cork. prerogative will filed. • Elizabeth Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork 1781 • Lawrence Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork Ann Roche m. George Broadbrook, Cloyne • James Roche of Droumanaragill, Co. Cork, gent., John Roche Jr. of Cove m. Miss Collins, dau. of Capt. Collins prerog. will. of Cove (Cobh) - 30 Apr John Roche, born - later husband of Johanna Walsh. Died 1788 1809. • Jordan Roche dies (Walker's Hibernian Magazine, September Issue). They try to link Sir Boyle Roche 1782 May 4 - Catholic Relief Act - allows Catholics to (1743-1807), the politician it said intended to lay acquire land. claim. But the title was allowed to (yet again) lapse. He died without male issue.

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• Thomas Roche Jr. of Beakfield, Co Tipperary, m. Miss O'Brien, dau. of Col. Jas. O'Brien at

Ennistymon, seat of Edw. O'Brien esq. - 8 Oct 1793 - RCs given the Vote • Died Thomas Roche, living in Rotterdam, purchased an estate in Co Kilkenny in 1787, leaving Stephen Roche of Limerick as heir at law (Oct) 1793 • Philip Roche; merchant; Rutland-place office; Mary-Street, Limerick • John Roche, born, son of John Roche, gent., Kerry. • Stephen John Roche; merchant; George's-quay, At Trinity 1811 Limerick • Rev. James Roche of Kinsale, Admin. Bond Cork • Stephen Roche esq., son of John, m. dau. of Dr. • James Roche of Chamballymore, d. of w., probate Ankettle, Limerick, Oct 1 not date, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Cork • David Roche Jr; grocer and spirit-merchant; Mary- • James Roche of P. P. Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork street, Limerick • James Roche , P. P., of Kinsale, will proved in Cork • Thomas Roche; ship-chandler; Merchant's-quay, 1793 Thomas Roche, Thomas married Farrel, Limerick Eleanor; Nov 3rd both of Camphire, P. of Lismore, • Philip Roche; merchant/haberdasher; Mary-street, Lismore Cathedral in Waterford. Limerick 1794 1789 Master Philip Roche, son of Stephen Roche, grandson of James Roche, born, son of Patrick Roche, gent., Co John, died 22 May Monaghan. Trinity 1814 Miss Roche, dau. of Stephen Roche, granddaughter of John James Roche of Three Bridges, Co. Kilkenny, admin. grant m. Francis French of Port Carrow, Co Galway Philip Roche, son of John, merch. March 8 (provision store), Patrick Roche, father of James, died Ennis Thomas Roche of Rotterdam, Holland, merchant, admin. grant. Edward Roach (grandfather of future Archbishop Roche of NL) born Borris, Co Carlow, migrated to NL in 1823. After 11 years in NL began work as a servant of the government for 1790 45 (56 total) years there - obit. Edward was also paid for John Roche, born, son of John Roche, esq., Cork. At Trinity clearing snow around Government House (Journal of the Sir Boyle Roche was M.P. for Tralee ---1790-98 House of Assembly 1837), but his main duties were as Gateman to the Colonial Governors. He married Catherine Meagher (Maher) of Borrisoleigh, Co Tipp. in NL 7 Feb 1829. 1791 - United Irishmen founded (Belfast) by Theobald They had six children: Mary 1830, Catherine 1831, Bridget Wolfe Tone 1834, Margaret 1837, Patrick 1842 and Edward J. 1845. Edward J and his future wife Mary O'Reilly of Placentia 1791 became the parents of anti-Confederate Archbishop Edward Patrick Roche (1874-1950) and brother John T. who Ellen Roche of Tralee, will filed, Cork. died while working as a newspaper reporter in St. John's. Edward from Carlow died at Kings Rd, St. John's 18 Feb 1792 1879 at age 85.

Ulicke Roche m. Ruth Philpott, Cloyne 1795 Mrs. Thomas Roche, d. near Skibbereen, 28 June • Miss Blanche Roche - Died - Jan 8 in Fras. St., Ennis Miss Roche, dau of John of Cobh, m John Thomas Keane • John Roche, brother of Patrick and Michael, died esq. of Cloyne • George Tierney Roche, born, son of George Roche, Michael Roche b., Carriganes; d. 1879 gent., England. Trinity 1812 Thomas Roche of Moyge, Admin. Bond Cloyne Diocese. • 1795 Francis Roche of Carhue, gent., Admin. Bond Cork • 1795 Hugh Roche, mariner, town of Cove, prerog. will filed, Cork

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• 1795 John Roche of Lyrainne, will filed, Cloyne hanged. The following morning at 11 o'clock Roche and Diocese, C of I, Cork eight others were executed on Wexford town bridge. • 1796 Edmond Roche of Milebush, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Cork. There were several other Roche priests in Co Wexford at the time of the rebellion: 1797 ----Redmond Roche in (brother of Colonel Edward Roche - below) Stephen Roche m. Eliza Large, Cloyne ----James Roche in Wexford town, Chaplin to Bishop Dr. James Caulfield, both apparently complicit in the slaughter Ulicke Roche of Scartaglenny, Kerry, will filed, Cork of Protestant prisoners on Wexford Bridge in mid-June. Thomas Roche and James Hickey killed yeoman Thomas ----Edward Roche who was at Borris, Co Carlow and later Scammadon of Cappoquin, Co Waterford on the road killed in battle at Scullagh-gap on the Wexford-Carlow between Agliss & Clashmore (Nov. 12). They coerced John border. Keane, blacksmith, of Dromore to help remove the body and keep the matter secret. He didn't. Colonel Edward Roche of Garrylough (Shelmalier East),

supposedly directly descended from the Roches of 1798 - TROUBLE! Artramont, farmer and malster, also played a large and almost forgotten role in '98. He and his followers took poison in Newgate prison rather than give the enemy the 1798 satisfaction of hanging them or worse. (Other reports say he had been sentenced to transportation, but I suspect

they understate the matter. Rebels were often lashed first, William Roche of Youghal, Co Cork, prerog. will filed up to a thousand times, and of course, died in agony). Not Capt. James Roche, a local farmer, led the attack on Carlow for nothing did these brave men decide to die at their own - a total catastrophe for the rebel forces on 25 May. Of two hands. thousand who marched on the town, about a third were Rev Colonel LeHunte, who had sworn to change his religion lost. Some sought shelter in houses on Tullow Street when to RC before Father James Roche in Wexford town, slipped the loyalist army appeared. The houses were set alight and through the killing field on Wexford bridge after only a those who fled were shot or bayoneted; those who stayed roughing up. He owned Artramont at the time (near inside, burned. Others were shot in flight on the roads or in Wexford town). Artramont was the Roche family seat until the fields and were buried in shallow graves covered with Cromwell threw them out and gave it to the Hunts in the quicklime. 1640s. When the Hunte family later sold off in modern Father Philip Roche of Tincurry (Ballycarney) who served as times, the Roches took them to the British High Court Parish Priest at Gorey in North Wexford, led the contesting their right to sell. The decision was that the Wexfordmen in many a battle in '98. Philip was born in Roche claim had failed "due to the passage of time". Monagrena near Boolavogue in the parish of Monageer abt 1760 and was ordained in Wexford by Bishop Caulfield on 1799 17th May, 1785. His first appointment as curate was in Ballyfad near Gorey. There he came into contact with the United Irishmen in the early 1790s. When the rebellion Francis James Roche, born, son of Francis Roche, gent., broke out, Roche immediately joined the insurgents, held Cork. Trinity 1815 the rank of colonel and served on a committee of twelve James Roche of Trelong, gent., Admin. Bond Cork that controlled the affairs of the insurgent camp on Vinegar James Roche of Tralong, Will filed, Co Cork. Hill (not our finest hour - too much prisoners' blood spilled). Roche replaced Protestant Baganel Harvey 7 June 1798 as Commander-in-Chief (after Harvey became distraught over the excesses of the rebels). On hearing of the insurgent defeat at Vinegar Hill on 21st June, Roche decided to surrender in Wexford town and to try to obtain favourable terms for the insurgents. However, he was pulled from his horse and dragged through the streets to jail. He was court- martialled on 24th June, convicted and sentenced to be

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1804 1800 Act of Union - Great Britain/Ireland passed Stephen Roche Jr., esq., oldest merch. city of Limerick, Feb 12 died -- aged 80. He had helped establish ROCHE'S BANK.

1800 James Roche, Naval officer, m. Mary Kelly, dau. of late Michael Kelly of Glambrack, Co Galway, at Ennis - 13 Feb. Thomas Roche of Moher died 6 Sept

Thomas Roche of Cork, gent., Admin. Bond 1805 John Roche the elder, Town of Cove, prerogative will filed.

James Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork 1801 - The Act of Union eliminated the Irish Parliament and created the Philip Roche of Kinsale, will filed, Co Cork William Roache of Cork, admin. grant

1801 1806 Alexander James Roche of Dublin, admin. grant Sir William Roche, RC MP Limerick, founded Roche's Limerick Bank; it survived the banking crash of 1820 and 1808 later merged with the highly successful Provincial Bank of Roche banking family in Limerick opened their famous Ireland. He remained active in politics until retirement in "hanging gardens" to the public. 1841. Never married. Died 1850. Philip Roche of Limerick, esq., admin. grant George Roche, born, son of William Roche, merch., Cork.

Trinity 1819 1809 Benjamin Roche, Fonthill, Co.Carlow - Prerogative Wills 1536-1810. Anne Roche of Cork, widow, Admin. Bond Francis Roche of Cork, clothier, Admin. Bond 1802 1810 James Roche of Killcloushy, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Benjamin Roche, born, son of Nicholas Roche, of Carlow. Cork Grad Trinity 1826. Mary Roche born Barnahasken, Co Carlow, Ireland. Died 24 Oct 1890 in Holy Angels Cemetery, St. Thomas, Ont. 1811 Children were: William Breen, Patrick (Paterick) Breen, John James Roche of Cork, will filed, Co Cork. Breen, James Breen.

1812 1803 John Roche m. Catherine Riordan - 10 May

John Roche married Lydia Abbott in Cork City, Cork, Ireland. Philip Roche of Lush's Hotel in Kildare St., Limerick, son of Known children are: Dr. John Roche b. 1815; Mary b. 1826; Philip Roche Jr. Samuel Edward b. 1826; James Walter Douglas b. 1831; E. Roche esq., d. 7 May at Lyons, France, eldest son and Edward b. 1834; Eleanore b. 1838. The children all moved heir of Edw. Roche of Trabolgan to England where they married and raised families. Philip Roche esq., son of late John Roche of Limerick, m. Hon. Anne Plunkett, dau. of Rt. Hon. Lord Dunsany, at 1813 Cheltenham 11 Aug. John Roach, born Christmas Day in Mitchellstown, Cork. Son of Patrick Roche and Abigail Meany. Later m. (1836) Emeline Johnson. Naturalized US 1842. Shipbuilder. Died 10 Jan 1887.

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1813 Edmond Roche of Ballynarsha, will filed, Cloyne 1819 Diocese, CofI, Cork. Samuel Roche of Youghal, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, CofI, Cork. 1814 George IV 1820-30 John Roche DESERTED from the Garrison at Placentia, NF, age 35, 5 ft. 7 ins., long visage, unable to speak English. Arrived on the Brig "Mary" from Cove, Cork - 9 June. 1819-1829...St. Patrick's College...Carlow Student Toll Edmund Roche DESERTED from the service of Dennis ----James Roche, Dublin 28 Sept 1818 - 1 July 1820 Noonan. Roche, native of Waterford, Ireland, Labourer, ----H. Roche, Ferns Garrynisk, Blackwater Oct 1818 -1 July came to Trinity, NF in the Brig "Benjamin", 5 ft. 7 ins., pale complexion (sic), thin features, wears Beaver hat - Apr. 28 1822. Richard Roche of Knockaclorig, will filed, Cork.

----Rev. Nicholas Roche, (O.S.A.) 31 Oct 1821 - 1 July 1824 1816 ----Roche, Rev. M (Galway) 28 Sept 1824 -1 July 1825.

John Roche of Glenville, Admin. Bond Cork 1820 Joannem Roach b 27 May Adamstown Parish, Co Wexford to Michaelis Roach and Maria Delaney of Ballvergin, Failure of Roche's Bank (and stoppage of Leslie's Bank at Countril. This couple also had Henricum 29 April 1813, Cork) causes banking crisis which spreads throughout Michael 26 November 1814 and Mary 2 April 1818 (male Munster and then to Dublin - May 25. baby names in Latin, female in English). John Roche of Glandora, esq., Admin. Bond Cork Joannum Roach b 17 August Adamstown Parish, Co Wexford to Gulielmio Roach and Magreireto Roach of William Roche of Derryvilane, d. of. W., will filed, Cloyne Ballvergin, Countril. Diocese, C of I, Cork Rev. George Roche, Vicar of Templemichael, married Sparrow Sarah, Miss (of Belmont, Lismore Parish) April 26th 1817 1821, Waterford

John Roach born to Patrick and Mary Roach, 30 March, 1821 Ballon, Co Carlow - sponsors James Heedon & Catherine Fitzpatrick (possible NF connection through Edward - the Archbishop's grandfather). • John Roche of Carrigharla, farmer, Admin. Bond Cloyne Diocese 1818 • John Roche of Sandville, lived in that year • William Roche of Killarney lived Kenmare • Edward Roach, born to Patrick and Mary Roach, 13 • Edward Roche of Killarney lived Kenmare August, Ballon, Co. Carlow - sponsors James Tallon • J. H. Roche of Killarney lived Cloyne 1822 March 10 & Catherine Nolan - see brother John above Died -- Mar, wife of John Roche esq. of Aghada • John Roach born to John Roach and Catherine House, Co Cork. Flemmin(g) of Old Court, Co Wexford (Adamstown Parish), barony of Bantry, PLU New Ross. This 1823 couple also had Thomas b 14 April 1814

• John Roche of Castletownroche, Admin. Bond William Ahern - executed for robbery at ROCHE'S of Cloyne Diocese Aghada. Some years previously, he had been transported • David Roche of Lismealcanals, will filed, Cloyne for life when another death sentence for sheep stealing had Diocese, C of I, Cork been commuted. • Michael Roche of Doneraile, will filed, Cloyne Richard Roche LIMERICK, SEPT. 27- A man named Daniel Diocese, C of I, Cork. Mahony was cutting rushes on the Commons in the Parish of Killeedy. An altercation occurred between him and Roche respecting a right of boundary when Mahony, armed 48 with a scythe, struck and laid open the bowels of his 1826 unfortunate opponent, killing him. An Inquest was held by Anne Roche of Odorney, Kerry, will filed, Cork John Cox, Esq. Coroner, and a verdict given accordingly. The delinquent escaped justice. 1828

Garrett Roche of Knocknahorgan, Admin. Bond Cork 1824 Ellen Roche, widow, of Loneraile, will filed, Cloyne Diocese,

C of I, Cork David Roche of The Brickfields, Will filed, Co. Cork Garrett Roche of Knockhorgan, will filed, Co Cork 1824 Pigot's Directory

• O.M. Roche, North Main Street - listed under 1829 Nobility, Gentry & Clergy

• Thomas Roche, Deputy Governor, County Goal, Cork Road, Limerick Michael Roche - St.James Cemetery, Co Cork. Erected by Edmond Roche of Churchtown to the memory of his father • Thomas and William Roche, esqrs., Treasurers, Michael Roche, died 29 March 1829 aged 48. Also his Savings' Bank, Linen Hall, Limerick mother Charlotte G. Carpenter Roche died 4 Sept. 1875 • Roche, David, Wholesaler, Brusnwick Street, aged 95 years. His daughter, Charlotte Roche, died 28 Limerick March 1870 aged 49 years. • Roche Thomas and William, Bankers, George's 1829 Michael Roche of Cork, butter merch., Admin. Bond. Street, Limerick

• Roche Martin, Wine Merchant, 2 George's Street, William IV 1830-37 Limerick 1829 - Catholic Emancipation Act lifts penalties on RCs and • Roche, Stephen and John, Merchants -- Newtown- Presbyterians Mahon

• Roche David, Brunswick Street, Miller Peter Roach: TO BE LET~CO GALWAY ~ From the First Day 1831 of May next, for such Term, and in such Divisions, as may be agreed on, THE LANDS OF KILCURRIFF, Estate of MARTIN Rev. Patrick Roche of P. P. of Odorney, will filed, Cork J. LYNCH, Esq. ABOUT 400 Acres, now let in Divisions, as follows: PARKALOMTOUGH, held by Mr. Peter Roach; 1832 ANBALLYPARK, held by Pierre Blake, Esq; BARNPARK, held by John F. Browne, Esq; COURSEPARK, held by Mr. Tim Silk. The above Lands are situate in the Barony of Clare, mid- The great personal popularity in Limerick of DANIEL way between Tuam and Galway. Proposals to be received O'CONNELL (1775-1847), his positions in the 1832 election by Mr. James Barrett, Athenry, (if by letter post paid) who campaign on Repeal of the Union with England and the will close with the Tenant or Tenants when the value is abolition of the tithe tax ensured the election of his political offered. candidates, David and William Roche.

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George Roche, esq. later of Granagh Castle, Co Kilkenny, Lewis' Topographical Dictionary of Wales reported that at inherited the estates and representation of the Roches of Butter Hill, formerly a grange belonging to Pill Priory, there Limerick when his brother died in 1825. This gentleman was again a family named Roch, said to be descended from claimed the ancient Irish Peerage of Fermoy. Adam de Rupe [this would have been through the marriage of a daughter - is at all]. The Manor House at Butter Hill was Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic History of The built in the early 19th Century by a George Roch and later Commoners of Great Britain And Ireland Enjoying Territorial extended by his son William Francis (Roch). Consistent with Possessions or High Official Rank: But Uninvested With the above, in 1830, the local population included: Heritable Honours, History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland. Note: He certainly had no monopoly on laying claim to the GENTRY AND CLERGY Fermoy Peerages. • Roch George, esq. Butter hill • Roch Rev. William, Butter hill 49

• Rev. John Roche of Abinagh P. P., Admin. Bond Cloyne Diocese 1839 • Redmond Roche of Mountleader, Cork, will filed, Thomas Roche, farmer, of Killmarrihur, Brosna, will filed, Cork Cork • Edmond Roche of Killuntin, will filed, Cloyne William Roche of Derrylahan, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, Co Diocese, C of I, Cork (Memorial of will) will dated Cork. 1822. 1840-50 The 1835 John Roche of Moullane, Smith, Admin. Bond Cloyne Diocese. 1841 Thomas Roche of Killmanihan, Kerry, will filed, Cork. Victoria 1837-1901 1842 1837 John Roche, farmer of Kilmarrihan, will filed, Cork. James Roche of Moneen, Castletownroche, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Cork 1844

Maurice Roche of Ahane, Brosna, Kerry, will filed, Cork. 1838

Mary Roche of Cork, widow, Admin. Bond. 1845 Michael Roche m. Libby Kelly 11-2-1845, Ruchane at 1838 - Poor relief for Ireland enacted Ballintober Patrick Roche, aged 65 , brother Francis Roche died 1847 1838 aged 63. Mologga Cemetery, Co. Cork. Protestant, David Roche, MP (1791-1865) a member of the Limerick milling family that lived at Carass, Croom was 1847 elevated to the Peerage (Baron), as was William - unrelated - in 1838. He served as Limerick MP until his resignation in James Jeffrey Roche born (1847-1908). He was a journalist 1844. and poet, went to the US as a child, wrote for and became editor of The Boston Pilot , and became American Minister George Roche (Mayor and MP for Limerick in the early to Switzerland shortly before his death. 1700s) had a son and grandson, both called David, who represented Limerick in parliaments in Dublin and, after the Union, in London. David was a supporter, with the Duke of 1848 Wellington, of Catholic Emancipation and became the close parliamentary supporter of Daniel O'Connell. Captain ROCHE, a relative of the Liberator, Daniel Sir David Roche of Carass, Co Limerick and Barnetick, Co. O'CONNELL collected his body at Birkenhead (near Clare succeeded his father as Magistrate for the County and , England). The O'CONNELL family had every MP for Limerick. His wife was Frances, dau of John Ormsley confidence in Roche who met Rev. Dr. MILEY to arrange the Vandeleur of Maddinstown, Co Kildare, Colonel of the 5th funeral 5 August 1848. In 1845, O'Connell had been unable Dragoon Guards. Their children were - David (b 1833), to persuade Parliament to deal with the Irish Famine. A sick Frances (deceased), Alice and Elizabeth. man by March 1847, he decided on a pilgrimage to Rome. In 1838, the ROCHE Arms were "CREATED", read "re- In Paris, he was hailed as the "most successful champion of created", in slightly modified form, having been long liberty and democracy in Europe". O'Connell never dormant. David was know for his opposition to the Corn completed his journey and died in Genoa 15 May 1847. His Laws in relation to the Famine after he had left parliament. heart was buried in Rome and his body in Dublin - as he had In 1846, Prime Minister Robert Peel quoted from a letter of wanted. his at length in the House of Commons in London which David Roche of Legg, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Cork swayed the vote for abolition. David Sr lived till April, 1865 Patrick Roche, will filed, Cloyne Diocese, C of I, Cork. and was succeeded his son as second Baronet - Rosetts.

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• Mrs., 17 Jervis St (occup not listed) 1849 • Nicholas, 29 Bridgefoot St (huxter)-spelt Roach in street listing Thomas Roche of Lackbane, Castleisland, will filed, Cork • Patrick, 10 Castle St (merchant and military tailor) William Vale married Mary Roche 6 March at Fermoy - her • Sarah, 69 Grafton St (baby linen warehouse) Father was James Roche. They later sailed to Australia • Thomas, 6 Thomas St (green grocer) • William, 7 Upper Pembroke St (solicitor)-spelt 1850 Roach in street listing • William and Co., 60 Upper Abbey St (wine Canon James Roche became PP of Wexford where he merchants and insurance agents) ministered until his death on March 14th, 1883. He is credited with leading the effort to build two of the city's 1851 churches...the Church of the Assumption and the Church of Alice Roach/Roche m Patrick Sutton, Scartnamoe March 25. the Immaculate Conception. During a visit to Rome in 1854, Witnessed by Anastatia Roche & William Cooke Parish of he obtained from Pope Pius IX an Apostolic Blessing for Glenmore, Kilkenny. Children were all born in Slieverue, those who had made, or would make, donations to support Drumdowney. the project.

1852 1850 Dublin City Directory:

Roache Although Limerick Mayor, William Lane Joynt, was credited • Brothers, Northumberland buildings (emigration with founding the Limerick Athenaeum, a literary, scientific, agents) artistic and educational institution, 1852, among it's co- Roach founders were Thomas Roche, brother of MP, William • Miss Anne, 7 Mountjoy place Upper (occupancy (above), and Thomas' son William. not listed) Martin Roche of Kingwilliamstown, will filed, Cork. • D. James, 1 Percy place (Esq.) • Henry, 9 Haddington terrace (occup not listed)- 1854 spelt Roche in general listing Mary Roche of Castleisland, will filed, Cork. • John Edmond, 5 Mespil, Upper Leeson St and 34 College green (solicitor) 1856 Mrs., 34 Merchant's quay (occup not listed)

• Nicholas, 29 Bridgefoot St (huxter)-spelt Roche in Edmund Burke Roche of Trabolgan, Co Cork is elevated to general listing the (created Baron Fermoy) again using • Thomas, 6 Linenhall St (slater and builder) the traditional arms, modified, but essentially the same as • Thomas, 27 Braithwaite St (provision dealer) those adopted by David Roche of Carass, Co Limerick and Barnetick, Co Clare in 1838. • William, 5 Mespil place (solicitor)

• William, 7 Upper Pembroke St (solicitor)-spelt Lady Diana was the direct descendant of Edmund Burke Roche in general listing Roche on her mother's side. Burke's Peerage reports that Roche these Roches descend from merchant Philip of Trabolgan, Co Cork who (1554) purchased a portion of the old Fermoy • Brothers and Co., 30 Eden quay (American merchants) estate from Gerald, Lord Kinsale. Gentlemen's Magazine, September 1855, has it that reference should be made to • Alexander, 14 Beresford St (slater) Maurice Roche of Trabolgan, Mayor of Cork in the reign of • Henry, 7 Anglesea St (solicitor) Elizabeth I (1563). • Henry, 9 Haddington terrace (occup not listed)- spelt Roach in street listing This branch may be linked to one with different arms (and • James, 116 Townsend St (provision dealer) they called themselves "Carrigh" for rock in Gaelic). In • Jordan, 11 Hardwicke place (Esq.) "Ancient Armorial Carving at Cork", September, 1855, Richard Caulfield writes that a complete account of this • Michael, 1 Castle St (licensed tobacconist) family's pedigree may only be available by examining the 51

MSS presented by Queen Elizabeth I to Maurice Roche, Mayor of Cork in the 16th century. But they were never associated historically with Fermoy until modern times. In fact, a "new" peerage was created - as baron, not viscount - and it was not considered an extension of the previous one. Charles ROCHE, Esq., appointed a captain in the Cavan Militia.

1857 Note: Until 1857, there were two types of 'Courts' dealing with wills and administrations, the Consistorial and the Prerogative. The Consistorial Court dealt with 'local' wills and deeds - those relating to property/land within the boundary of a diocese only. The Prerogative Court dealt with wills or administration bonds if they involved property worth more than £5 in a second diocese. So - it would have been used by people who were relatively wealthy and who owned property in two or more Dioceses These courts also had the power to grant letters of Administration to next of kin or the main creditor on the estates of those who died intestate (without a will).The Prerogative Court was the responsibility of the Archbishop of Armagh. In 1857, the Probate Act took away the testamentary authority of the Church of Ireland. Afterwards,there was a Principal Registry in Dublin and eleven District Registries. The rules and administration remained much the same. The Principal Registry was equivalent to the Prerogative Court (but it also covered Dublin and a large area around it). Source: Irish Researcher, Jane Lyons David Roche, farmer, Dulague, will filed, Cork.

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Nicholas Roche, a tenant farmer, died - a member of the Catholic or Land Leagues - he sat on one of the League Branches resulting from the introduction of the Poor Law Union System in 1838.

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decline began, some were Loyalist, some came under the influence of the Gaels and Brehon Law and one Acknowledgements would almost need a scorecard to keep track of all the battles, real and in law, that makes an accurate record of what transpired problematic. It might well be Much of the Co Cork material on this page is taken argued that with the ascension of King John to the from "O'Kief, Coshe Mang, Slieve Lougher and the British Throne with the death of his brother, Richard Upper Blackwater in Ireland by Albert E. Casey, MD, the Lionheart in 1199, the ground began to shift Published and Bound Privately for the Amite and unpredictably. Knocknagree Historical Fund, 1966" and is an amalgamation of a variety of sources. The Roach(e)/Roch(e) entries are taken from volumes 5, 6, 7, 8, 11,14, and 15.

The original sources varied: "Abstracts from the Council Books of Cork, Youghal and Kinsale, as Published by Richard Caulfield, 1876-1878, by Nell Frances Lowery;"The Presidency Court of the Province of Munster;" "Index to Wills, Diocese of Ardfert and Achadoe, Counties of Cork and Kerry, filed in the Cork District Registry, 1690-1858;" "Church Lands South of the Blackwater River in Barony of Muskerry and in Kilshannig and Clonmeen Parishes in Barony of Duhallow," "A Register of the Students, Graduates, Professors and Provosts of Trinity College in the University of Dublin, 1593-1860, from "Alumni Dublinenses," etc.

They represent a variety of county, city and parish records, wills filed, tombstone inscriptions, lists of mayors and bailiffs, Kenmare Estate Records and extracts from local newspapers. Casey did not group or sort the information, however, the copies reviewed here (on loan from the New England Genealogical and Historical Society Library in Boston) did have an index of sorts.

Much of the foundational information is courtesy of Bill Roach of Florida. He emphasizes that the people The material in this article was originally on Jim and events noted are from a large unorganized mass Roache’s website which is now inactive: of sources, including over 200 pages of the Casey http://www3.sympatico.ca/jfroache/ Volumes. To this, I have added extensively. I would, however, like to express my sincere appreciation to This article was edited by Peter Roche and can be Bill for a tremendous effort on our behalf. found on Roche Lineages : http://rochelineages.wordpress.com/ I have augmented Bill's sources with information including the publications of the Cork Historical and July 2011 Archaeological Society, Vol XXXVIII, 1933 and widened the focus outside Co. Cork. The Cambro-Normans and Flemish (assuming that most Welsh returned home) held for about a century to some extent. Once their

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