2500 Watch Bathers Take Pointe to Cleaners 20-0 Only 4 Teams The Monitor-Leader pßmHMalneers Main Event Now On MONDAY OCTOBER 26, 1942 PAGE 8 Season’s Finest By HARRY GRAYSON Unscored On NEA Service Sports Editor Bow 26-0 lo NEW YORK, Oct. 26 Shift of the Army-Navy football Hand-to-Hand Form Displayed game Philadelphia to the relative loneliness of Annapolis to This Date from r 'em .u--a is just one more step down the road that is bringing sports to NEW YORK, Oct. 20 (£>)— Line Play Matches Offensive a war-footing. college football teams SLAiphonsus Only four ' George W. Elliott, general secretary of the Philadelphia throughout the nation remained Passing Chamber of Commerce, points out that that city could have Drive; Brilliant 102,000 natives, that unscored on today but at least High filled the Municipal Stadium with out-of- bitterly disap- ' i H RmM towners would not need to be accommodated. 34 others stillwere unbeaten and Mount Clemens High School's Bathers • at Catholic Loop We think the transportation problem was only one reason untied, some of them after play- pointed the majority of spectators in a crowd of 2500 la psychological. It imprints Saturday with for switching the contest. The other is ing as many as six games. Grosse Pointe by shellacking the Pointers 20-0 8t Mazy's High school bowed on the minds of thousands of football enthusiasts that play-as- a demonstration of the form that enabled Coach Buckholz' Sunday 26-0 to St. Alphonsus, of usual has ended as far as official Washington is concerned. Tulsa (Okla.) Universi t y gridders to wallop Port Huron. naarhom a loam ranked among Meanwhile official Canada takes an even more forthright boasted the outstanding spotless The Bathers turned loose a magnificent demonstration Utanost formidable in the Sec- step. The National Selective Service Board denies athletes the record, having piled up 250 power and o sizzling that swept the job to profes- of defensive offensive ond Division of the Detroit Cath- privilege of shifting from an off-season war a points without yielding a score off their feet. The duel was bitterly contested in the League. sional sport, such as hockey. Pointers olic two pushing up yard line rangy veteran ag- sport is of comparatively low labor priority,” in five games, but the high scor- first quarters, the Bathers to the five A fast and "Professional with nifty from Lyle Bliss to Ralph gregation, St. Alphonsus took says the Board. "Because it contributes something to the war er in the unbeaten ranks was in the first period passes of play and won eas- effort by providing a degree of relaxation it is permitted to Fresno State, which swamped Siewert, but the locals lost the ball on downs. The Bathers command tally period in the ily despite the game fight put up continue, but only on the same basis as any other activity of Ford Ord, Calif., 8-0, yesterday chalked up their first in the third and two inexperienced by the young, low essentiality.” for a five-game total of 270 fourth, the Pointers indicating squad. Low labor priority . . . low essentiality. We think that Herbie recov- Mountaineer points against only six for the Mt. Clemens squad er center Martell Surprisingly, although St. places athletics in its war niche. It is as forceful a statement its that ered. Mary's suffered its worst de- as we have read in adjudging the importance of sports at war. opponents. had set too fast a pace for Potoroka went sweeping feat of the season, yesterday, Yes, even quaint characters who voraciously read the Previously unbeaten powers them in the opening half, with around end for the touchdown, thd Mountaineers uncorked sports section of their paper and throw the rest away are feel- in every section of the country the play dangerously close to and Bliss passed to to can’t get to the special their best brand of football ing the impact of war. They races. The dropped by the wayside the past . ¦ y ..s*. e the Grosse Pointe goal line for the extra tally. date, bringing forth from Coach sections to football games are a fleeting memory. The fight v-eek-end, including such teams INSPIRED GAME pugs a throughout. Lee Hart the confident predic- game is so dormant a couple of ancient create quite flur- as Illinois, Santa Clara, Arizona The Bathers played an in- Son that "we have lost our last ry by even meeting socially. and Brown. BATHERS SCORE spired brand of football Satur- ball game this year. 1 ' The Collegiate football attendance has taken a pronounced In the third period, halfbacks day, tossing everything the untied teams, in Mountaineer tackling was bet- nether slant. In some areas the dip has been as much as 50 per The unbeaten, Bliss and John Sierens cut loose book at Grosse Pointe. The tor, their running plays went cent. Reasons: Inaccessibility for one thing, disinterest for an- with their season’s records. with a dazzling running attack passing offensive was especial- oft more smoothly, and every other. Games Points Op. from midfield, featuring a 20 ly outstanding, with eight pass- Indication was given that the What of sports of the future? Well, I see that Cadet Tulsa 3 256 0 yard dash off tackle by Sier- es tossed and five completed in up expe- a hand Wartburg 5 63 0 locals were adding Charlie Zachritz of University City, Mo., can throw East Stroudsburg 3 50 0 ens, and pounding line smashes the fourth period alone. feet, which tops his fellow-cadets at Idaho Southern Branch .. 4 46 0 rience for next year. grenade 180 four inches, Dubuque 6 213 19 by Bruce Bostwick. Sierens The Pointers* offensive was St Alphonsus is the prime the lowa Navy Pre-Flight School by plenty. Young men like Georgia 6 184 39 took the first touchdown over nailed in its tracks, with Cap- league cham- the of the immediate future. Augustana 6 166 12 line, contender for the Zachritz are sports heros Fresno State 5 270 6 from the three yard and tain Charles Branyan and Cal- pionship. This squad has been We were thinking the other day about football of the Williams 5 178 13 Bostwick missed the extra point. vin Pancuff slicing through undefeated so far this season, When news services and newspapers shipped correspond- Ohio State 5 165 39 *3os. Alma 5 136 13 Mount Clemens started off from their tackle posts to cut with the only menace coming ents to Los Angeles with Notre Dame for the Southern Cal- The Citadel 5 132 27 them down with monotonous Syracuse 3 127 13 England new form with a rush in the final period, from St James of Femdale. St game, etc.- When scriveners spent weeks on football UNITED STATES infantrymen in practise regularity. ifornia Alabama 3 124 6 fisti- Lyle Bliss whipping a pass to James has been knocked off junkets. When a football hero found himself a national issue. Norwich 5 122 25 of hand-to-hand fighting. Since it consists of best points of Mount Clemens prepar- Delaware .. 5 113 7 are end Bob White for 70 went once to date this season, and Why, only a year ago 56 special trains were required to lug cuffs and fencing, masks and boxing gloves worn. Bather ed to victory, Georgia Tech 5 112 18 yards, and Bostwick went celebrate a and the two teams clash at Ferndale spectators, cadets and midshipmen to Philadelphia for the St. Vincent 5 109 7 the band was in fine fettle to .. 7 left end for the yard Sunday. The Second Div- Army-Navy game. Lock Haven Teachers 3 106 around one next Texas Christian 5 89 20 needed for the serenade the inspired gridiron prob- (Mo.) 182 27 score. Bostwick ision championship will It was only a year ago ... but a year ago was another era. Marshall 4 City. Baker 4 123 6 May flipped a pass line to warriors from the Bath ably be decided at this duel. event is on. Calumet Comet over the The main Lawrence 4 113 13 for extra point. The same type of perform- St Alphonsus sepred a touch- San Jose State 4 108 13 Siewert the against Haverford 4 102 6 Victor Potoroka went into the ance Monroe here next down In each of the four quar- 24 James Millikin 4 98 Prove A Dark Horse game at halfback and maintain- week will necessitate scorekeep- ters, yesterday, with halfback Hardin Simmons 4 93 19 ers with better than average Army 4 90 14 Whirly ed the standard set by his a Bob MacArthur carrying the Boston College 4 81 13 By DONALD SANDERS the year. A win over 20 Points teammates with a slashing per- grasp of higher mathematics. freight for the visitors. MacAr- Steuber Adds More Amherst 4 85 19 BALTIMORE, Oct. 26 (/P) in the special would still leave The lineup: ranks as one of the top St. Thomas 4 80 6 The sixth running of the him shy of the mark. formance through and arpund thur North Central 4 69 6 jit- Player Pos. men in the league. New Hampshire 3 54 27 famed Pimlico Special two days The deadline for entries in the Grosse Pointe line. A baCkfield Scoring 3 78 7 Bob White end capable to Tighten Lead Wilberforce either the special is 10:30 o’clock tery Pointer fumbled the ball on He's a good runner, St. Joseph's :. 3 56 14 hence shaped up today as Branyan tackle Concordia 3 52 25 own 10 yard line, and Bath- Charles and fine kicker. YORK, — ing his total for games to 83 a second match race between (EWT) tomorrow morning.. his passer, NEW Oct. 20 six Milton 7 3 46 18 Harry Mial guard lineup: , the human adding points. Juniata 2 35 21 Whirlaway and Alsab or simply Trainer Ben Jones said Herb Martell center The Whirlaway was in shape machine who plays left halfback His one-day outburst, how- a SIO,OOO stroll for the long- top George Dalby guard ST. MARY’S the Flayer Fos. for the University of Missouri ever, was surpassed by Jim Se- tailed Calumet Comet. after his $14,350 victory in Calvin Pancuff tackle eight thorough- Handicap Laurel Francis D’Luge end football team, annexed 20 more crest, University of Rochester Although Washington at Lions Beaten Ralph Siewert end Boy Harms tackle points Saturday and easily re- halfback, who counted five Sports breds won races which would Park Saturday and that the Jim Smith quarterback champ Fetitpren guard tained his grasp on the nation’s touchdowns, and was approach- qualify them to run in the event, money-winning could Lyle Bliss halfback Did said their own- be regarded as a sure Special MfMon Moore . center scoring honors. ed by all America Frank Sink- Pimlico officials John Sierens halfback Jerome Zischerk guard Steuber outsped the lowa wich of Georgia. ers had apparently been fright- starter. Sixth Time Bob Manning fullback BillLaMonte tackle State College tacklers for three Secrest turned on his speed Roundup- ened by the weight for age con- If Whirly should be the lone entry, could do a more lucra- WATSON D’Luge end touchdowns and converted two for the benefit of Hamilton Col- BY FULLERTON, JR. ditions. he BY SPOELSTRA Lawrmne HUGH Thus, every four-year-old or tive bit of walking than any DETROIT, 20 (/P) Kin Trombley quarter of them, the day’s efforts bring- lege, which was defeated for the YORK, 26 (/P) Oct. VAN HOLLENBECK'S NEW Oct. up must carry 126 pounds and horse in American turf history. dropped their Kan Vernier halfback first time this season, 33 to 0. Going back, going ba-a-ack, go- The BARBER BHOF time every three-year-old 120 pounds By circling the oval, he could sixth successive national football ClUirn C/V. Don Martus halfback Sinkwich, playing only part ing back to Nassau . . Sup- g^s Hall. over the mile and three-six- collect the SIO,OOO purse and league game yesterday to the Hair Ci«» Haiti U H. Angermeyer fullback against Cincinnati, got three pose every old grad gets that • ISS« UNION • teenths course. earn for his owner, Warren Bay Packers, 28 to 7, and St. Mary’s engages St. Rita’s, Himerick touchdowns, raised his total to his college some- Green Af\ kl CW CT opposite feeling about A1 whose wife owns Wright, the Maryland Jockey they the world ohampion w nCTT 91. BANNOW’t at Detroit, next Sunday. 66 points and took over second didn’t hit you until Sabath, tackle time, but it Alsab, told track he Club gold cup valued at $2,750. Chicago Bears next Sunday, but W# Sail War Stamp* place. you went down to Princeton to officials is Winner would decide today whether he Trainer Ben would collect sl,- Coach John (Bull) Karels has Gene Fekete of Ohio State, cover the Princet o n-Brown would start the three-year-old 500 in cash and a piece of plate fresh hopes today mainly be- For Complete erstwhile runnerup, grabbed game last Saturday. . . • The which holds two victories out worth several hundred. cause of his new passer, Chester INSURANCE eight points in his team’s win place hasn’t changed much. . . Beat Jujitsu of Trophy of the three races against Whether or not Alsab starts V.’etterlund. Coverage over Northwestern but skidded The campus still has that air of Whirlaway. against Whirly in a duplicate Frederick A. Him- to with an aggregate of 60. peaceful the same big Wetterlund, rookie up from St* Lieutenant third seclusion; He said he would make his of their Narragansett match race erick’s was the first name to be Secrest’s 54 game him fourth trees shedding their leaves on obscure Illinois Wesleyan Col- The Blanchard Agency decision after examining the apaprently meant a difference lege and acquired last week from SIS MtniUr-LtaStr BM|. inscribed on the General Harold place. the green quadrangles. . . of weights assigned for the run- of thousands of dollars to the Pfctit S7S Ml. Cl*—— H. George Memorial Skeet The scoring leaders, showing seem a lot the Chicago Cardinals in ex- course, the walks ning of the West- Army emergency relief fund. Tournament trophy at Selfridge player, school, position, number longer of the build- $25,000-addcd change for tackle Tom Chantiles, now. Some chester Handicap at Empire The receipts of the special Field yesterday. of games played, touchdowns, ings you remembered as new directed two Detroit marohes of City next Saturday. A victory day are pledged to the fund Lieutenant Himerick defeated points after touchdowns, field look mellowed and weather- 77 and 80 yards against the Have You a in this race would make Alsab and a Whirly-Alsab renewal Major Hinicker in a goals and total points: beaten—and so do some you IVckers for the best Lion attack Jerome the money winning horse would pack in the fans. double shoot-off resulting from 810 SIX CONFERENCE didn't remember at top of of the year. One drive was GAS EATER? Bob Mo., HB 6 13 5 0 83 all a four-way tie at the end of the Steuber. Those khaki and blue uniforms freakishly stopped on the three- Cniirv* yaar fsa HuuirtiN SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE by handicap round. All four chalk- Frank Sinkwich. G«., HB 6 11 0 0 66 yard line, but fullback Frank esaaaltlaf WEBTERN all over the place (the Navy has ed up scores of 50, including CONFERENCE dormitories) Grigonis battered over for a Gene Fekete. Ohio S FB 3 8 12 0 60 taken over three Saturday’s AUTO ELECTRIC Lieutenant Edgar Jones and EASTERN SECTOR make a difference, too. Still, Grid Stars score on the other. ie n*. Oniiti ntM ttf Secreat. Rochester. HB 4 DOOM By The Associated Press Szymakowskl, Lehigh Corporal L. R. Risk. SOUTHERN CONFERENCE when you weik a Freshman 20 Stan In gaining their fourth suc- and Gene Risk *and Jones were elimin- Victor. The Citadel. HB 4 «11 0 47 years ago were some fel- fullback Kicked three field cessive victory after losing to the PACIFIC COAST CONFERENCE there Fekete, Ohio State backs ated in the first shoot-off, with Kennedy. Wash. FB 7 2 44 lows around had been in goals, scored one touchdown Bears, the Packers scored in B S. 5 who Between them they gained 268 scores of 48 and 40 respectively. MISSOURI VALLEY CONFERENCE the "Princeton Navy” in the oth- and heped set up two more in each period. For the first time Auto Repairing I«e Tevis. Wash.. HB 8 6 7 0 43 of Buckeyes’ 324 yards from In the finals, Lieut. Himerick SOUTHWESTERN CONFERENCE er . . 20 years ago? May- 28-10 win over Rutgers. this year Don Hutson was held Expert mechanics your war. scrimmage and did all the at shot a 45 plus 5 for a score of B. Coleman. Baylor. QB 6 5 5 0 35 be that’s why those boys you Jim Jurkovich, California without a touchdown— princ- service on all types of a 810 SEVEN CONFERENCE team’s scoring in 20-6 victory 50, and Major Hinicker shot John Ziegler, Colo., QB 33 3 0 3.3 knew look so broad of beam halfback returned to action ipally because of the Detroit auto repairing. plus 11 for a 49 score. Carl Stearns. Colo.. QB 3 5 3 0 33 thin thatch over Northwestern. layoff and led strategy of assigning de- 38 ROCKY MOUNTAIN CONFERENCE and of now. after injury three

— BATH CITY GARAGE Others who competed in the Moore, Colo. College, FB 4 3 7 0 23 o— Bob Longacre, William and Bears to 19-6 victory over fenders to him—but the lean ex- shoot and ranked high in the stadium looks the same, Mary quarterback Scored Washington. Alabaman place-kicked two ex- 2t PINE BT. PHONE VM Sergeant touchdowns, one on 80- tournament were: except that you sit in a reason- two Russ Ashbaugh, Notre Dame tra points to run his season total Captain and com- Bercyl Russelo, 48; ably comfortable, covered press yard punt return, halfback Helped set up two to 58 points in five games. His Warren E. Snogrcn, 47; War- Central Romps box now instead of out of the pleted 40-yard touchdown pass one with 40-yard league record set last year is 95 Bob Bible, 40, lead of George touchdowns, ’’Dependable Service” ...... to 61-0 route games. rant Officer and hard concrete and you do punt return, in 21-14 win over points in 11 Staff Sergeant Kingsley Page, Washington. that’a nr alSCto mum By ED DON GEORGE not have the enthusiasm you Illinois and intercepted pass KIEF 'EM mOLLINO Coach of Rough aid Tumble, 40. OverKalamazoo had for Bully Dickinson’s team Bob Perina, Princeton half- goal line in last minute. with Sofalar VMto to Us sot was by the near The trophy posted back in ’22. . . . Remember, was gun 32-13 U. 8. Navy Pre-Flight Schools back He big in Johnny Strzykalski, Mar- Wilt • General Repairing officer’s mess at the field, and was when Bill Roper told victory Brown, Detroit Get Jepg aren’t particular about By that over scoring one quette Tossed three • Criss-Cross Tire Service will remain there, in tribute to 66-13 Score ’em, "a team that won’t be beat halfback following the rules, so be pre- touc.idown, passing to another touchdown passes and averaged g Genuine Hi-Speed George, formerly of . . pared protect yourself General DETROIT (/P) The un- can’t be beat.” . And he was and keeping Bears in hole with Boxing Shows to died in 5.9 yards on 15 tries in 39-0 Two Products Selfridge Field, who . . . against kicks. defeated Catholic Cen- right. When they went out his kicking. • Tire Vulcanizing action. Detroit shutout over Arizona. (/P) kicks at your groin Southeast Pacific tral football team ran to a 66 to to play Chicago you stood in Missouri half- t DETROIT— ln the Assailant General George’s widow re- Bob Steuber, Bob Kennedy, Washington of two boxing here 13 victory Sunday over Kalama- front of a loud speaker and suf- back Scored three touch- first shows John m. aides in Redlands, California. State fullback Scored two this week, Notch, Pitta* L. Kraft I Turn your body to the right zoo St. Augustine, with Tommy fered as John Thomas kept downs, one on 57-yard run, Carmen HI-BPEED BERVICE passed to a Willie u| . . touchdowns and burgh lightweight, tackles Gratiot catch leg with your Groth galloping for three touch- crashing through the line. . for a fourth and aver- emtr ft. Cborsb M. his RALLY TO WIN passed third in 28-13 triumph over Joyce of Chicago over the ten- an, mm m• fbi»n pouooty Turn the foot out- dov’ns, one of 98 yards. The Kal- You started to walk away when aged 9.1 yards in 15 tries as forearm. (/P) Taking an Oregon State. round route Monday night at £I with a toe hold (2). DETROIT— amazoo Eleven scored first, mar- they were two touchdowns be- Tigers swamped lowa State, early lead, losing it and then ral- Emery Nix, T.C.U. halfback the Arena Gardens. The bout This forces assailant to the ring its foe’s unscored-on record, hind, but just then they picked 45-6. lying in thy final period, the De- Led 21-0 victory over Pen- was set over from last week ground. Step over his bended but the Detroiters came back up a fumble and ran for a touch- Taylor, troit Red Wings defeated their down. And pretty Maud Chuck Stanford sacola Fliers by passing to two when Boxing Commissioner J. knee (I). with ten touchdowns. soon Stole farm club, the Indinapolis Cap- Crum made another and we guard— ball from rival touchdowns and scoring >a J. Hettche ordered notch to ge, BAR-BO You now have a bar toe-heel backficld ace and dashed 32 fight itaols, an hock- . . through under a (4). 0-5 in exhibition were ahead 21-18. . And fin- third himself. with the liold ey game Sunday night. yards to touchdown in 14-6 Lou Thomas, Tulanc half- threat suspension. You can easily break his ally after Pink Baker made that of SPARE ‘ Wolverines victory over Southern Cal. RIBS kneo or tackle that stopped Thomas on back Scored one touch- Shelton Bell, Toledo light BARON’S DEFENSE the one yard line wt}gt a snake Bobby Williams, Penn State down, passed to two more and heavy, meets. Billy Ray of CLEVELAND, Oct. 26 (/P) Convalesce dance you had down the street. halfback Playing in his first kicked field goal and extra Clarkesburg, W. Va., in an eight- MUSEUM DIRECTOR 54- win North COOPERBTOWN, —Their exhibition game with ARBOR, Mich., Oct. 26 varsity game, completed point in 29-14 over rounder. N. Y.—Na- ANN that Museum of Baseball and the Detroit Red Wings Saturday —<>P) — Michigan football cas- Some of the other seasons yard pass .for touchdown Carolina. On Friday at Olympia, Char- tional 13-10. Sinkwich, Georgia SERVED DAILY! Hall of Fame at Cooperstown night cost the Cleveland Barons ualties in the Minnesota game, weren’t so successful, but they beat Colgate, Frankie ley Hayes, Detroit middleweight, . Pennsylvania end three Mppointad Clifford L. Lord as di- th 4 services of Dick Adolph, de- one of the roughest between 'l.c bring back their pictures. . Joe Swan, halfback Scored meets Phil Muscato of Buffalo DAD'S RUSTIC REST fense star, who suffered skull \ His blocking and tackling and passed to oth- - a two schools in recent years, in- hen Notre Dame’s Four Horse- touchdowns Jimmy Edgar, Detroit Wel- VPCCflme victory and M MACOMB OK fracture in a third period fall. cluded: men came in and handed your featured 42-12 rout of Colum- er two in 35-13 over ter, battles Tony Motisi of Chi-

by Mot- . . bia, in which Penn gained 427 |— Jolted the stick of Alex Ro > Robinson, an injured Tigers a couple of lickings. Cincinnati. cago. DOUCE Adolph ground. Bill Daley, Minnesota half- ter, Detroit defense man, shoulder. University doctors X- . The distance whoops Snively yards on struck his head on the ice and could pass and the way Laury Russ Mosley, Alabama half- back Led 10-14 upset of rayed the shoulder last night. JOURNEYS TO GAME UgRtCAR was unconscious nearly an hour. Elmer Madar, an eye swollen Legendre could punt to the cof- back His running and pass- Michigan, scoring one touch- GOVERNMENT SBVKE touchdowns, helping set up the Homer Van Hollenbech, for- KjHiMhwar! Cleveland won the game, 4 to 2. completely shut, with two stitch- fin corner. . . And the time you ing set up both down and scored, in 14-0 mer St. Mary’s High school foot- FLOATS ¦iil OQPD running or- es in the lid. couldn't go to Cambridge for one of which he other. Coven personal proporty of Of- Kentucky. ball star in Mount Clemens ficer* and wtvea apatnot lon by OMfeoil. Tom Kuzma, an injured arm, that 34-0 victory over Harvard wiu over journeyed with the University [/¦'/¦ Tom Farmer, quarter- LOSE DUEL fire. Ushtnln#. uanapertHtlow. nav- aiy repairs let us i probably not serious. but stayed around to sec Rutgers lowa DOUBLES Illinoisfreshman squad to La- igation. theft. pOUeraftH and bn winning (/P> Nor- of any. here for e General exhaustion, bruises, and Homer Hazel wreck what back Passed to DETROIT Joe fayette, Indiana, Saturday Minimum premium SIR. im- Grygier, have for CARROLL cuts and bumps for George Ceit- was supposed to be a great Laf- touchdown and kicked both ris and Casa who the Puzdue-Ulini duel. haml, Merv Pregulman, Julius ayette team. . . . And when portant extra points in 14-13 claimed the State doubles bowl- ing championship the last 12 "ya t r Franks, and most of the line, you went to Philly to see Red squeeze over Indiana. MACOMB which went the entire game with Gra;.gc run against Penn. Eddie McGovern, Rose Poly years, lost It Sunday when they HOPPE TOURS »08TS INSURAMCt ASPECT six touch- a. ere defeated in a close 21-game HOUSTON Willie Hoppe, ' •' only on/ brief substitution. halfback Scored IBlCSflcrcrtA LSENfATIVE Coach Fritz Crisler gave the TULSA Tulsa has a 146- downs and kicked seven extra duel with Wayne Spaulding and the billiard champion, is giving i at army navy •quad an entire day of rest to- pound guard in Gene Hendrix points in 69-7 victory over Therman Gibson, also Detroiters, exhibitions and day. of Fort Smith, Ark. Earlham. 8202 to 8182. posts.