65Th MEETING

1 United States Mint Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee Meeting Tuesday, February 28, 2012 The Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee met in Conference Room A, 2nd floor at 801 9th Street, N.W., Washington, D.C., at 9:00 a.m., Gary Marks, Chair, presiding. 2 CCAC Members Present: Gary Marks, Chair Michael Bugeja (via teleconference) Erik Jansen Michael Moran Michael Olson Michael Ross Donald Scarinci Heidi Wastweet Mint Staff Present: Richard A. Peterson, Deputy Director Christy Bidstrup Don Everhart Ron Harrigal Greg Weinman 3 Contents Welcome and Call to Order 4 Discussion of Letter and Minutes from Preview Meeting 4 Review and Discuss Candidate Designs for the 2013 America the Beautiful Quarters – Ohio and Maryland 5 Review and Discuss Candidate Designs for the Montford Point Marines Congressional Gold Medal 46 Lunch 68 Review and Discuss Candidate Designs for the Code Talkers Congressional Gold Medal 68 Review and Discuss Candidate Designs for the Professor Muhammad Yunus Congressional Gold Medal 91 Review and Discussion of 2013 First Spouse Research Backgrounder 130 Adjournment 134 4 Proceedings (9:23 a.m.) Welcome and Call to Order Chair Marks: Okay. I'm calling this Tuesday, February 28, 2012 meeting of the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee to order. We have a full agenda today. And in fact, an agenda that extends us into the late afternoon, so we want to proceed as expeditiously as possible. But also, we're going to make sure that we have a full discussion on everything that is before us. First item on the agenda is the discussion on the letter and minutes from our November 29th, 2011 meeting. Discussion of Letter and Minutes from Preview Meeting Those minutes and the letter were provided in the packet to the members. I understand that there may be some corrections to the minutes. I would ask those members with those corrections to bring those to us now. Member Jansen: Mr. Chairman, I want to call attention to Point Number 5, describing the approval process we had for the White Mountain National Forest. The minutes show ten votes for Design Number 2, and per our process we have to have 50 percent of the maximum 21 votes in order to be recommended. So I think there needs to be some administrative investigation to find out the facts to correct that mistake. Chair Marks: The Chair, who prepares those minutes, believes that he may have been in error. So what I'll ask the committee to do is to approve the minutes, contingent on my review of that tally, and with appropriate correction to be a part of that 5 approval. I think there may be one other suggestion on the minutes. Member Moran: Yes, there was one other, on Point 11, the last page, reverse and obverse were flipped on the one sentence in that narrative. And that will be a quick one. You'll read through it to get it corrected. Chair Marks: Okay. And we will make that correction. We'll assume that correction with this approval. So with those items of change in mind, are there any other items to be considered before we move to approval of the minutes? And this will be an approval of the minutes and the letter. If I could have a motion to that point? Member Jansen: I'd like to move that the minutes be approved with the discussion included in that motion. Member Bugeja: Second. Chair Marks: Okay. It's been moved and seconded that we approve the minutes and the letter to the Secretary concerning our November 29th, 2011 meeting. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor please signify by saying aye. Participants: Aye. Chair Marks: Opposed? Let it be noted that the motion carried unanimously. At this point we'll be moving on to our review and discussion of the candidate designs for the 2011 America the Beautiful Quarters Program. Specifically for the national sites located in Ohio and Maryland. And I will look to Ron Harrigal for our -- and Don Everhart for our review of those designs. Gentlemen. Review and Discuss Candidate Designs for the 2013 America the Beautiful Quarters – Ohio and Maryland Mr. Harrigal: Okay. Thank you, Gary. First I'd like to 6 recognize the Park Superintendent, Blanca Stransky, from Perry's Victory and International Peace Memorial. She actually came in to be at this meeting and to give her the opportunity to speak here. Ms. Alvarez Stransky: Good morning everyone. I'm Blanca Alvarez Stransky. And as Ron said, I'm the Superintendent of Perry's Victory and International Peace Memorial. I think where I'm going to start today is actually defining where Perry's Victory and International Peace Memorial is located. On your desk is a park brochure. And the front side is actually a picture of the memorial at sunset with the water. And we're on an island. We're actually in the middle of Lake Erie on the island of South Bass Island. And when you travel to South Bass Island on one of the ferries, the memorial will actually be the first thing that you'll see as you approach the island, okay. On the back side of this brochure is a brief history about the War of 1812. The memorial has two missions. One, it commemorates the Battle of Lake Erie, which was the naval turning point for the War of 1812. And it also commemorates the peace between three nations, Canada, Great Britain and the United States. So we have a very unique dual mission. We have the peace and the war. We're known as having the largest undefended border between two countries, Canada and the United States. When you visit the park, and you can go up to the top of the memorial, which is 352 feet up in the air. And you can look into Canada. And what you will see will be nothing but water and then the surrounding islands. And the reason I point that out is because I used to work on the border between Mexico and the United States at Chamizal National Memorial. I can tell you 7 that when I looked out of my office, I did not see these great vistas. I saw all these fences. And these people patrolling along the border, okay. Perry's Victory, because it's an international peace memorial, is really a symbol of peace between countries, okay. And we're very, very excited about this quarter. Unlike other parks, like Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Hot Springs, we only get about 150,000 people a year. Not a lot of folks, so we're a lesser known National Park site. And so therefore, the thought that almost every American, at one point in their lives, is going to have a symbol of Perry's Victory in their pocket, is just so exciting. It offers us an opportunity for education because we're so unique. And when I started looking at the designs, it's very difficult to tell our story. Because we don't have a large mammal that we can put on the quarter, okay. Our symbol is the memorial, 352 feet high. It's a tall skinny building, okay. Looks beautiful in a photograph when it's captured surrounded by water, sunsets, et cetera. But trying to put that on a quarter is very difficult. As someone said to me a little earlier this morning, it's kind of boring. I would have to agree, it is, you know, just the picture of the monument, it's a little boring. And then, the hero of our story is Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry. He was 26 years old at the time of the battle. And he, despite the odds, abandoned his ship, got on to another ship, raised a flag that has become famous, the "Do Not Give up the Ship" flag, and went into battle and won. And actually, not only did he win, the Battle of Lake Erie is actually the battle that the most foreign ships were captured on American soil. That still holds true today. So the battle's really important. 8 And the question is, which one of these designs kind of tells the story. I don't honestly -- I can honestly tell you that I don't think that any of these designs will tell the complete story. I think it's up to us, the National Park Service, my staff as Park Rangers, to help the American public understand the story. I think that all we can do is facilitate those discussions that are going to be had around the coffee table or around the dinner table. Where is Perry's Victory? Who is this guy? Or what does that flag mean? And then we will have to figure out a way to tell the rest of the story. But thank you very much for inviting me here. And thank you for, I don't know if you picked the site, or helped pick the site, but I think it's going to be wonderful for us. So thank you. Mr. Harrigal: Thank you, Blanca, that was very inspiring. Okay. And we're going to get into the designs now. Okay, the 2013 America the Beautiful Program candidate designs. The United States Mint America the Beautiful Quarter Program is a multi-year initiative authorized by Public Law 110-456, the America the Beautiful National Parks Quarter Dollar Coin Act of 2008. The Act directs the United States Mint to mint and issue 56 circulating quarter dollars with reverse tail side design emblematic of the National Park or other national site in each state, the District of Columbia, the U.S.

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