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Trustees Act, 1938; the Ancient Monu- Revised edition of the Highway Code ments Preservation Act, 1938; the Pay- prepared by the Highway Board under ment of Members' Expenses Amendment Section 45 of the Road Traffic Act, 1933. Act, 1938; the Douglas Grammar School Amendment Act, 1938; the Evidence Act, Public Auditors' reports on the ac- 1939; the Population (Statistics) Act, counts of the Mental Hospital Board for 1939; the Parish Church Act, the year ended 31st March, 1939; the 1939; the Highway Amendment Act, Boards of Guardians of the Poor of Douglas, Ramsey, Peel, Castletown, An- 1939; the Highway Amendment (No. 2) dreas, , , , , Act, 1939; the Highway Amendment , , , , , (Seating of Motor Vehicles) Act, 1939; , Michael, , Patrick, and the Poor Relief Amendment Act, 1939; for the year ended 31st March. the Ramsey Town Commissioners (Bor- 1939; the Highway Board for the year rowing Powers) Act, 1939; the Road ended 31st March, 1939; the Manx Traffic Amendment Act, 1939; the Sale Health Insurance Society for the year of Ice Cream Act, 1939. ended 31st December, 1938; the Borough The Acts were captioned by affix- of Douglas, Ramsey Town Commis- ing a statement that they had been sioners, Peel Town Comm,issioliers, promulgated, signed by the Governor Castletown Town Commissioners, Port and the Speaker of the House of Keys. Erin Commissioners, Port St. Mary Com- missioners, , Onchan, and Michael PAPERS PRESENTED. Village District Commissioners, and the Commissioners of the parish districts The Governor laid before Tynwald the of the ; the Board of Agri- following reports:— culture for the year ended 31st March, Annual report of the Board of Agri- 1939; the Rushen Water Board for the culture for the year ended 31st March, year ended 31st March, 1939; the Isle of 1939. Man Electricity Board for the year Annual report of the Highway Board ended 31st March, 1939. for the year ended 31st March, 1939. Isle of Man (Customs) Acts: The Im- Annual report of the Isle of Man port Duties (Substitution) (No. 2) (Isle Electricity Board for the year ended of Man) Order, 1939 (Government Cir- 31st March, 1939. cular No. 1974); the Additional Import First annual report of the Northern Duties (No. 6) (Isle of Man) Order, 1939 Water Board, for the year ended 31st (Government Circular No. 1975); the March, 1939. Import Duties (Exemptions) (No. 6) (Isle of Man) Order, 1939 (Government Regulations entitled "The Motor Circular No. 1976). Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations, 1939" made by the Highway Board under The Court then adjourned to the fol- the Road Traffic Act, 1933, and the Road lowing day, Thursday, July 6th, in Traffic Amendment Act, 1939. Douglas. DEEM—: Vffill■•■■■•••[ TYNWALD COURT.

Douglas, Thursday, July 6, 1939.

Present: The Governor (Vice-Admiral C. Gill, and R. C. Cain (Receiver- the Hon. W. S. Leveson-Gower, C.B., General) , with Mr B. E. Sargeaunt, Gov- D.S.0.). In the Council: The Lord ernment Secretary and Clerk to the Bishop, Deemsters Farrant and Cowley, Council. In the Keys: The Speaker (Mr the Attorney-General, Messrs J. R J. D. Qualtrough, J.P.), Messrs T. A. Corrin, W. C. Southward, F. S. Dalgleish, Quayle, J. Clinton, T. H. Kneen, E. B. C.

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Farrant, A. J. Cottier, W. K. Cowin, T. The statements were circulated in the Callow, J. H. L. Cowin, T. Clucas, E. W. present Court, as follows:— Fargher, Richard Kneen, W. A. Kelly, J. Return of the number of men regis- J. McArd, Mrs Shimmin, Messrs W. H. tered on 11th March, 1939, with the num- Alcock, S. Norris, A. E. Kitto, R. Q. ber of such men employed by the various Hampton, and W. C. Craine, with Mr F. employing authorities. B. Johnson. Secretary and Clerk to Tynwald. Douglas.—Number of men registered, 399. Employed by the Highway Board, 107; by the Harbour Board, 36; by the POST OFFICE VEHICLES IN ACCI- Douglas Corporation, 215; assisted farm DENTS—QUESTION BY MR COTTIER. labour, eight. In receipt of unemploy- Mr Cottier asked the Lieut.-Governor: ment pay, 238, of whom 140 were married. Whether Post Office vehicles are covered by any form of third party in- Onchan.—Number of men registered, surance; what rights the general pub- 79. Employed by the Highway Board, lic have when involved in a collision 40; Onchan Village Commissioners, five; with vehicles of the Post Office, and assisted farm labour, one. In receipt of against whom can they claim. unemployment pay, 16, of whom nine The Governor replied: As to the first were married. question, I am advised that the Post Braddan.—Number of men registered, Office is expressly exempted from the 36. Employed by the Highway Board, Act requiring insurance against third five; assisted farm labour, six. In re- parties. The Post Office carries its own ceipt of unemployment pay, ten, of insurance. With regard to the second whom eight were married. question, my information is that where .—Number of men registered, the public have been involved in a col- two. In receipt of unemployment pay, lision with a Post Office vehicle the pro- one (not married). per procedure is against the driver of the vehicle. Ramsey.—Number of men registered, 195. Employed by the Highway Board, Mr J. H. L. Cowin: And what happens 40; by the Harbour Board, 25; by the if the driver is a man of straw, with no Northern Water Board, 21; by the Ram- assets to meet a claim which might run sey Commissioners, 17. In receipt of into thousands of pounds? unemployment pay, 24, of whom 21 were married. ALLOCATION OF PUBLIC EMPLOY- Ballaugh—Number of men registered, MENT—QUESTION BY MR. NORRIS. 14. Employed by the Highway Board, Mr Norris asked the Lieut.-Governor: six; by the Forestry Board, five; by the Northern Water Board, three. In re- Will he state—(1) The area and dis- ceipt of unemployment pay, none. strict numbers of registered and em- Michael.—Number of men registered, ployed men last winter, with the number eleven. Employed by the Highway left to draw unemployment pay; show- ing the number of men taken by each Board, five; by the Forestry Board, three; assisted farm labour, two. In board of Tynwald and public authority receipt of unemployment pay, none. from each area; how many were single men without dependants; and what Jurby.—Number of men registered, number of married men in each district three. Employed by the Highway Board, were put on unemployment pay. (2) two. In receipt of unemployment pay, What are the comparative area and dis- 11 one. trict allocations of men required on Lezayre.—Number of men registered, schemes of approved public works for 34. Employed by the Highway Board, next winter, compared with last year's 16; by the Forestry Board, four; by the allocations. Northern Water Board, six. In receipt The Governor replied: Statements con- of unemployment pay, two (both mar- taining the information requested in (1) ried). and (2) will be circulated. Bride.—Number of men registered,

Post Office Vehicles in Accidents—Question by Mr Cottier.—Allocation of Public Employment—Question by Mr Norris, 688 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. nine. Employed by the Highway Board, ten; assisted farm labour, three. In re- six; by the Forestry Board, one. In re- ceipt of unemployment pay, seven, of ceipt of unemployment pay, one (not whom five were married. married). Malew.—Number of men registered, .—Number of men registered, 26. Employed by the Highway Board, 20. Employed by the Highway Board, 12; assisted farm labour, one. In re- six; by the Northern Water Board, four; ceipt of unemployment pay, five, of assisted farm labour, four. In receipt of whom four were married. • unemployment pay, five, of whom four were married. Rushen.—Number of men registered, 49. Employed by the Highway Board, .—Number of men regis- 29; assisted farm labour, five. In re- tered, ten. Employed by the Highway ceipt of unemployment pay, three, all Board, six; by the Northern Water of whom were married. Board, two. In receipt of unemploy- ment pay, one (not marriea). .—Number of men registered, 45. Employed by the Highway Board, Lonan.—Number of men registered, seven; by the Harbour Board, one; by 111. Employed by the Highway Board, the Port Erin Commissioners, 19; as- 48; by the Harbour Board, seven; by 1 he sisted farm labour, two. In receipt of Forestry Board, two; by the Northern unemployment pay, ten, of whom nine Water Board, one; by the Lonan Parish were married. Commissioners, 17; assisted farm labour. one. In receipt of unemployment pay, Port St. Mary.—Number of men regis- 14, of whom 10 were married. tered, 54. Employed by the Harbour Board, eight; by the Port St. Mary Com- Peel.—Number of men registered, 155. missioners, 32. In receipt of unemploy- Employed by the Highway Board, 65; ment pay, six, of whom four were by the Harbour Board, nine; by the married. Forestry Board, one; by the Peel Com- missioners, 17. In receipt of unemploy- Total number of men registered, 1,910. ment pay, 19, of whom eight were Employed by the Highway Board, 427; married. Harbour Board, 86; Forestry Board, 35; Germ an.—Number of men registered, Northern Water Board, 38; Douglas twelve. Employed by the Highway Corporation, 215; Oncban Village Com- Board, five; by the Forestry Board, two; missioners, five; Ramsey Commissioners, assisted farm labour, one. In receipt of 17; Peel Commissioners, 17; Castletown unemployment pay, five, of whom three Commissioners, 21; Port Erin Commis- were married. sioners, 19; Port St. Mary Commission- ers, 32; Lonan Parish Commissioners, Patrick.—Number of men registered, 17. Assisted farm labour, 41. 42. Employed by the Highway Board, six; by the Forestry Board, 18; assisted Total in receipt of unemployment pay, farm labour, one. In receipt of unem- 402, of whom 254 were married. ployment pay, 12, of whom eleven were Number of single men without de- married. pendants employed.—Highway Board, Marown.—Number of men registered, 56; Harbour Board, 19; Forestry Board, twelve. Employed by the Highway five; Northern Water Board, twelve; Board, four; assisted farm labour, four. Douglas Corporation, three; Onchan In receipt of unemployment pay, one Village Commissioners, three; Ramsey (married). Commissioners, two; Peel Commission- ers, two; Castletown Commissioners, Castletown.—Number of men regis- none; Port Erin Commissioners, none; tered, 66. Employed by the Highway Port St. Mary Commissioners, seven; Board, two; by the Castletown Commis- Lonan Parish Commissioners, six; as- sioners, 21; assisted farm labour, two. sisted farm labour, sixteen. In receipt of unemployment pay, 22, of whom twelve were married. Public Works.—Suggested Allocation of Registered Men, Winter 1939-40. Arbory.—Number of men registered, 26. Employed by the Highway Board, Employing authority, the Harbour

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Board; nature of work, general. Num- Board; nature of work, water supply ber of men, 66, of whom 34 are to be scheme. Number of men, 30, to be taken taken from Douglas, Onchan, and dis- from Castletown and the South. trict; seven from Ramsey and the North; nine from Castletown and the South; Employing authority, Onchan Village nine from Peel and the West; seven from Commissioners; nature of work, Port Laxey and Lonan. Jack Glen and playing fields. Number of men, ten. Employing authority, the Highway Board; nature of work, quarry develop- Restoration of the Vollan road. Num- ment and reconstruction, King Edward's ber of men, 30, to be taken from Ramsey Road (crossing), Quarter Bridge widen- and the North. ing, and rivers. Number of men, 366, Assisted farm labour. Number of men, of whom 161 are to be taken from Dou- 45, of whom 11 are to be taken from glas, Onchan, and district; 62 from Ram- Douglas, Onchan and district; 13 from sey and the North; 43 from Castletown Ramsey and the North; 10 from Castle- and the South; 62 from Peel and the town and the South; and 11 from Peel West; 38 from Laxey and Lonan. and the West. These figures are on the assumption Total number of men to be employed, that of the 24 men transferred from the 927 (1938-39, 980). Areas from which Northern district, 12 will be employed the men are to be taken: Douglas, in the Southern district and 12 in the Onchan, and district, 428 (1938-39, 421); Laxey and Lonan district. These figures Ramsey and the North, 217 (1938-39, may be subject to further adjustment. 201); Castletown and the South, 108 Employing authority, Douglas Corpora- (1938-39, 131); Peel and the West, 126 tion; number of men, 212, of whom 28 (1938-39, 135); Laxey and Lonan, 48 will be employed on main roads, 90 on (1938-39, 92). the Belle Vue estate, 90 on the Derby Castle widening, and four on work at PUBLIC AUTHORITIES' ACQUISI- Hawarden Avenue. TION OF LAND—QUESTION BY MR Employing authority, the Forestry NORRIS. Board; nature of work, tree planting. Mr Norris asked the Governor: If he Number of men, 40, of whom 15 are to will issue a return showing what land be taken from Ramsey and the North, and property since 1920 has been ac- 22 from Peel and the West, and three quired for public purposes by boards of from Laxey and Lonan. Tynwald and by local public authorities; what was the price paid in each case, the Employing authority, Ramsey Commis- area, and cost per yard; and what was sioners; nature of work, main roads and the rateable assessment of such land or promenade. Number of men, 50. property in each instance; differentiat- Employing authority, Peel Commis- ing what was acquired by consent, and sioners; nature of work, brows and what was compulsorily acquired under promenade. Number of men, 22. the Lands Clauses Acts. Employing authority, Castletown Com- The Governor replied: The question missioners; nature of work, main roads. of the hon. member involves a very con- Number of men, eight. siderable amount of time and labour in the preparation of the information he Employing authority, Port St. Mary desires. Steps will be taken to supply Commissioners; nature of work, main him with this information, if he will re- roads and Gansey. Number of men, peat his question at the next sitting of eight. Tynwald. Employing authority, Northern Water Board; nature of work, water supply REMOVAL OF DERELICT BUILDINGS scheme. Number of men, 40, to be taken —QUESTION BY MR NORRIS. from Ramsey and the North. Mr Norris asked the chairman of the Employing authority, Southern Water Local Government Board: Whether he

Public Authorities' Acquisition of Land—Question by Mr. Norris.—Removal of Derelict Buildings—Question by Mr Norris, 690 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. can now say that all derelict buildings sioners since that date for demolition in which were a blot on the landscape have due course. been removed, and if not what has been Peel.—First letter: Notices issued to done, and can he give particulars of all owners or agents of derelict property; where they remain and when we may results might be considered good. expect their removal? Second: Notices served on ten owners The f011owing reply was circulated to or agents; further letter sent asking members:— whether any further action taken since Since January, 1937, five letters have expiry of notices; no reply. Third: been sent by the Local Government Formal acknowledgment, matter under Board to each of the Insular local consideration. Fourth: Eight notices authorities asking what action had been served; work carried out to six build- taken under section 3 of the Local Gov- ings; several improvements effected ernment Act, 1934, for the repair or re- without notice. Fifth: No dilapidated moval of dilapidated buildings in their buildings repaired or demolished since respective districts. The Board's third 25th May, 1938; owners of certain dilapi- letter, dated 9th December, 1937, stated dated property being pressed with a that it was very much concerned over view to the necessary work being carried the failure of local authorities to enforce out. the provisions of the said Act, and many Michael Village.—First letter: No re- of the local authorities were supplied ply. Second: No action taken. Third: with a list of buildings which appeared Notices served on all owners of dilapi- to come within the description of dilap- dated buildings to repair or remove the idated buildings for the purpose of the same. Fourth: All dilapidated buildings said Act. The following replies have in district now repaired. Fifth: Some been received:- buildings demolished; others repaired Douglas.—First letter: No action and matter still being dealt with. taken as no cases had been reported. Onchan Village.—First letter: No re- Second: Matter referred to Borough En- ply. Second: Notice served on owners gineer and Surveyor for his observa- of only derelict building in district. tions. Third: The only dilapidated Third: Only dilapidated buildings are building in borough, namely, "Brown those near Onchan church; three notices Bobby," is in course of removal. served on owners. Fourth: Two build- Fourth: "Brown Bobby" now removed; ings removed, one receiving attention. no other dilapidated buildings in Dou- Fifth: Number of unsightly buildings glas. Fifth: No dilapidated buildings in either demolished or repaired since May, district. 1938; matter :-eceiving constant atten- tion. Castletown.—First letter: No action taken. Second: No action taken; Port Erin.—First letter: No action matter referred to Improvement Com- taken. Second: Matter referred to a mittee; at present removing old wall at committee. Third: No compulsion on Chapel Lane. Third: Nine notices local authorities to order removal or re- served. Fourth: Seven notices served; pair of dilapidated buildings. Fourth: all attended to except two. Fifth: Three Nothing further to add to last letter. notices served; one building demolished, Fifth: Owners of five dilapidated build- two repaired. ings have been asked to repair or re- move same. Ramsey.—First letter: No reply. Second: Three notices served, one car- Port St. Mary.—First letter: No action ried out. Third: Three notices served taken. Second: No action taken; and an inspection and report to be made matter referred to Health Committee. with respect to others. • Fourth: Six Third: Matter under consideration. notices served, one building removed, Fourth: Two properties being repaired. five repaired; no other dilapidated Fifth: One building rebuilt and buildings now in district. Fifth: No modernised. buildings demolished since May, 1938; Laxey.—First letter: No action taken. 17 old houses purchased by Commis- Second: Sixteen notices served, eleven

Removal of Derelict Buildings—Question by Mr Norris. TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. 691 carried out. Third: Two buildings re- notices served; difficulty in tracing moved, one reconstructed, two notices owners of other dilapidated buildings. served. Fourth: Two buildings removed, Fourth: Two buildings removed, one re- one reconstructed. Fifth: Action being constructed, negotiations being carried pressed in the case of two dilapidated out in respect of some other buildings. buildings; one further notice served, one Fifth: All dilapidated buildings in dis- building in course of reconstruction. trict have been either demolished or Andreas.—First letter: No derelict repaired. buildings in district. Second: No notices Malew.—First letter: No derelict build- served, as there are no derelict buildings ings in district. Second: No action taken; in district. Third: Five notices served. matter to be brought before next meet- Fourth: One building rebuilt, one re- ing. Third: Inspection to be made. paired and others in course of being Fourth: Eight notices served. Fifth: demolished. Fifth: No reply has yet Seven dilapidated buildings demolished been received. during 1938. Arbory.—First and second letters: No Marown.—First letter: Some cottages reply. Third: Matter receiving attention; had been renovated and many new some notices served. Fourth: No reply. houses built on old sites. Second: Only Fifth: Some aerelict buildings which one derelict building in district; no ought to be demolished; owner written action taken. Third: One building re- to, but no further action taken. paired, two removed, three receiving Ballaugh.—First letter: No action atter tion. Fourth: No reply. Fifth: One taken. Second: No notices served as notice served and instructions received there are no derelict buildings in dis- for the serving of one further notice. trict. Third: Ten notices served. Fourth: Maughold.—First letter: No reply. Three buildings repaired or demolished. Second: Only one derelict building in Fifth: Three properties repaired or de- district; no action taken; matter to be molished; final notice being served in brought before next meeting. Third and respect of others. fourth: No reply. Fifth. List submitted Braddan.—First and second letters: No of eight dilapidated buildings in parish reply. Third: Six notices served. Fourtn and asking for advice as to correct pro- and fifth: No reply. cedure in the matter. Bride.—First letter: No derelict build- Michael Parish.—First and second ings in district. Second: All derelict letters: No derelict buildings in district. buildings in district have been removed. Third: Two notices served. Fourth and Third, fourth, and fifth: No reply. fifth: No reply. German: First letter: No action taken. Onchan Parish: First letter: No derelict Second: No reply. Third: One building buildings in district. Second: Reply removed, one notice served. Fourth and received referred to insanitary dwelling; fifth: No reply. no reply received in connection with derelict buildings. Third: One building Jurby.—First letter: No action taken. under consideration. Fourth: Unable to Second: No notices served as there are proceed any further in the matter. no derelict buildings in district. Third: Fifth: Nothing further to add to last Four notices served. Fourth: One build- letter; no dilapidated buildings in ais- ing repaired or demolished. Fifth: One trict. building repaired or demolished. Patrick: First and second letters: No Lezayre.—First and second letters: No action taken. Third: Notices served on derelict buildings in district. Third all owners of dilapidated buildings. and fourth: No reply. Fifth: One house Fourth: Notices served on all owners of rebuilt, one house in course of re- dilapidated buildings in district; one construction. building reconstructed. Fifth: Notices Lonan.—First letter: No reply. Second: served on all owners of dilapidated Notice served on the owner of the only buildings in parish; one building re- derelict building in district. Third: Two paired, and in many other cases owners

Removal of Derelict Buildings —Question by Mr Norris, 692 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. have promised to carry out work, but buildings at Crossacks Road, ; so far have failed to do so. buildings at Grenaby, including mill; Rushen.—First letter: No action taken. buildings at Langness; several buildings Second: Two notices served and both on road from Solomon's Corner to duly carried out. Third: No knowledge ; kipper house, Derbyhaven. of any dilapidated buildings in district; Marown.—Cottage, Station Road, two buildings repaired, one five years Crosby; mill, Crosby; three cottages, ago and one six months ago. Fourth: Cornelly; mine buildings, East . No knowledge of any dilapidated build- Maughold.—Building at Rhennie, op- ings in district. Fifth: Two dilapidated posite Dhoon Glen; building on land to buildings demolished. north of Dhoon quarry; building on land Santon: First letter: A few ruins still to south of Dhoon quarry; building at remain which do not, seriously disfigure Dreemskerry; building at Ballajora the landscape. Second and third: No Farm; building at Ballajora crossing; reply. Fourth: No dilapidated buildings building at Ballakilley; building at in district. Fifth: No dilapidated build- Ballagorry Beg; building at The Corony ings in district needing removal; suggest (Payne's); building at Cardle Voar; that Board's inspectors should inspect bt...nding near top of Lewaigue; building and report. on land north side of Bulgham Bay. The following is a list of buildings Onchan Parish.—Building on White which, in the opinion of the Board, Bridge Hill; cottage near White Cottage; could be deemed to be dilapidated build- Half-way House. ings for the purpose of the Local Patrick.—Mine buildings, Shoulder Government Act, 1934:- Road; four cottages at Glenrushen; out- Douglas—Two houses near Mile buildings at Dalby; farm outbuildings at House, Peel Road. Dalby; mine workings at Foxdale; farm Port Erin.—Building opposite Method- buildings at Lheakerrow; two cottages ist Sunday-school, Ballafurt Road; farm on roadside at Lower Foxdale; cottage house at Droghadfayle; building at The at Glenmaye. Darragh; farm house at Bradda. Rushen.—House at Balnahowe; build- Laxey.—Old school. ings on Sound Road; mine buildings at Scholaby. Andreas.—Two cottages at Ballaseyre; building at Regaby cross-roads. Santon.—Buildings at Ballachrink. Arbory.—Stone shed opposite The Michael Parish.—Buildings at Balla- Friary; building opposite school, Balla- gawne. beg; several buildings on road between Solomon's Corner and Ronague; farm UNEMPLOYMENT RELIEF IN LONAN. house and buildings on Colby Glen Road. —QUESTION BY MR CALLOW. Ballaugh.—Building at Orrisdale; build- Mr Callow asked the Lieutenant- ing near Coffey's Spout. Governor: Whether His Excellency can Jurby.—Building at Willow Grove; now communicate to Tynwald his pro- three buildings near Sandygate cross- posals relating to the expenditure of the roads; buildings near cross-roads at Lonan Board of Guardians in relieving Jurby East. unemployed men which were fore- Lonan.—Buildings, farm house, etc., shadowed in the Government Secretary's opposite Ballaquark; two old cottages at letter to the clerk of the Guardians of Ballaragh. the Poor of Lonan dated the 12th April, 1939? Lezayre.—Billy Pye's cottage. The Governor replied: The matter Malew.—Three sets of mine buildings which the hon. member raises in his at Foxdale; cottage at rear of Foxdale question was referred to by me in my Stores; outbuildings on Ballamodda Budget speech, when I said, "Nor am I Straight; cottage, Stony Mountain; three taking into consideration a proposal

Unemployment Relief in Lonan—Question by Mr Callow. TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. 693 which has been submitted to me for ex- (c) That the owner of such building cannot petition to Tynwald to have such pre- tending the period of operation of un- servation order set aside until the ex- employment pay." The hon. member piration of a period of 18 months from will be aware that I intimated at that the making of such order? time that I was about to appoint a com- (d) That as a direct result of such preserva- mission to consider the whole question tion order, even if the same be subse- quently set aside by Tynwald, the owner of unemployment, and for that reason I of the Friary farm will suffer a very con- do not propose to make any changes in siderable financial loss, as no provision the existing system in the immediate for the payment of compensation to the future. owner of any building affected by a preservation order is provided by such Mr Alcock: is this commission which Act. And— your Excellency is going to appoint a (ii) Whether His Excellency will take such committee of Tynwald exclusively, or a steps as may be necessary to ensure that the owner of the Friary farm, and other land- number of persons appointed from all. owners similarly affected, are fully com- over the Island? pensated for such financial loss, and for the The Governor: It will be a com- modification of the provisions of the said Act? mission, not a committee. The Governor replied:— Mr Alcock: Can your Excellency (1) In November the owner of the assure us that it will have a majority Friary Church (now used by him as a of members of Tynwald upon it? I say cattle shed) notified the Trustees of the this, because the point of the question Manx Museum and Ancient Monu- of the hon. member for seems to ments that the roof of such building was be, that there are parts of the Island in bad repair and that he proposed to which have a much larger proportion of restore the same by taking down the unemployment than others, and I sug- south wall of such church, reducing the gest that these districts should be repre- height of the other walls by at least four sented, from the Tynwald Court, upon feet, and re-roofing it. As this is a the commission which your Excellencf scheduled ancient monument, the owner is going to appoint. sought the approval of the Trustees to such alterations. The Governor: I will give the hon. member's proposition my consideration. (2) A sub-committee of the Ancient Monuments Committee of the Trustees met the owner and discussed the posi- ANCIENT MONUMENTS TRUSTEES tion. The owner offered to AND THE ANCIENT FRIARY (a) convey the church to the Trustees CHURCH.—QUESTION BY MR for the sum of £600 and erect a KELLY. new shelter at his own expense; or Mr Kelly asked the Lieutenant- (b) carry out the reconstruction Governor:— above mentioned at his own ex- (i) Is His Excellency aware— pense. (a) That the Manx Museum and Ancient (3) Eventually the owner verbally Monuments Trustees, exercising the agreed with the chairman and the in- powers conferred upon them by the spector of the Ancient Monuments Com- Ancient Monuments Preservation Act, mittee either to convey the church to 1938, have made a preservation order in respect of the church of the Friary of Trustees for the sum of £600 (an offer Bemekan which stands in the farmyard which was subsequently reduced to of the Friary farm, Arbory, and which £400), or to permit the Trustees to has for many years past been used as a effect certain works which involved cattle shelter? repairing the roof where necessary, and (b) That it is necessary for the efficient erecting a buttress to support the south working of the said farm and the sani- tary housing of the cattle that very con- wall of the church. siderable structural alterations be made An estimate of £.38 lOs for the cost of in connection with such building; that such alterations cannot be made thereto this has been obtained from a qualified without the written consent of the Trus- builder. To this latter proposal the tees, and that such consent has been Trustees agreed, and undertook to con- withheld? tribute half the cost. Unfortunately the

Ancient Monument Trustees and the Ancient Friary Church—Question by Mr Kelly. 694 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939.

Trustees were not in a position to con- rant, who is chairman of the Ancient tribute so large a sum as even £400, and Monuments Trustees, can reply to it. therefore they were compelled to fall back on the latter alternative. Mr Kelly: Would the Ancient Monu- ments Trustees find it impossible to deal (4) When the contractor commenced with the original suggestion of the to undertake repairs the owner refused owner of the Friary, and compensate to allow him to proceed, stating that it him to the extent of the value of the was his intention to take down the walls of the building. building which he would have to put up in place of this church, £600? (5) As the alterations contemplated by the owner would in tne opinion of Deemster Farrant: No. We considered the Trustees very largely destroy the that, and have no money for the pur- original construction ot a 14th century pose. All we can do is to preserve the church—the only one still remaining building as it exists, and to make it roofed on the Island—they declined to sufficient for the purpose for which the permit the owner to proceed with such owner has in the past used it. We are alterations, and served upon him a not prepared to erect a new cattle shed preservation order in terms of sections 3 for him, because we have no money for and 9 of the Act of 1938. that purpose, and no authority under our Act to do such a thing. (6) The Trustees have offered and are still willing to effect, or to permit the Mr Norris: Does the chairman agree owner to effect, the repairs in respect of that repairs to the value of £38 lOs will which they have obtained the builder's restore the building? estimate. When completed the Trustees Deemster Farrant: We have all been are advised that the church will be as to the place, and we called in a qualified effective a cattle shelter as it has been local builder, whom we have employed in the past. before, and have found to be an able Mr Kelly: I think the reply doesn't and efficient man. After full examina- quite cover the conditions existing in tion, the builder advised us that he could this old church. I don't know whether contract for the purpose, to restore the His Excellency is aware that during the building to its former efficiency as a past winter, the level of the ground sur- cattle shed, for £38 10s. That was rounding the church was so much above agreed to by the owner, and, as in- the present floor level of the church— dicated in the answer to the question, about 18 inches—that the floor became the builder actually proceeded to the so water-sodden as to be absolutely use- spot, but was then stopped by the owner, less for keeping cattle. The intention of who had apparently changed his mind. the owner, I am given to understand Deemster Cowley: May I ask a ques- from him, was this: Having seen the tion supplementary to part (ii) of the work that had been done on a shed at hon. member's question, as to whether Knockaloe experimental farm, he wanted your Excellency will consider legislation to alter the present building in such a to modify the Act of 1938, so that per- way as to make it suitable. sons whose property is to be preserved as a national monument should have the The Governor: You are making a property taken from them, and should speech, not asking a supplementary be properly compensated. Speaking for question. myself, I never contemplated that a Mr Kelly: I am suggesting that the man's use of his property would be information which your Excellency has interfered with. It is not desirable to is incomplete, and asking if you have preserve this church as a cattle shed. had further information from the owner, If it is worthy of preservation, let us who is one of my constituents in Rushen. take it over and pay for it. The Governor: Well, ask a question; The Governor: I will give that matter don't make a speech. If you ask a my consideration. supplementary question, Deemster Far- Mr Norris: As I understand it, the

Ancient Monument Trustees and the Ancient Friary Church—Question by Mr Kelly. TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. 695 position is that this property is being GAMING, BETTING, AND LOTTERIES used as a cattle shed, and the owner ACT—QUESTION BY MR FARGHER. wants to pull it down and make it Mr Fargher: May I ask, with regard to sufficient for that purpose. the Gaming, Betting, and Lotteries Bill, Mr Kelly: To pull it partly down. whether there is any hope of it coming into force this year? Mr Norris: He notified the Ancient Monuments Trustees of his intention to The Governor: We are still waiting do this, and they have issued, under the to get it back from London. Act which we •have just passed, a pro- Mr Fargher: I understand that the hibition to him, from dealing as he people affected by this Bill are most thought wise with his own property. Is anxious to adopt the procedure laid it true that there is no money in the down in it, and to obtain licences, or hands of the Trustees to enable them provisional licences, for their machines sufficiently to compensate this man? and for the places where the machines The Attorney-General: We offered to are operated. restore the property to its old condition. The Governor: Until the Bill has re- but he wants a new building. ceived the Royal Assent, the existing law Mr Norris: According to the statement is continued. of the hon. member for Rushen, it will Mr Fargher: Could your Excellency not restore it. possibly instruct the police that they cal Deemster Farrant: We are advised proceed, and issue provisional licences? that it will. The Governor: I cannot do that. Mr Norris: I think there is a question SHOP HOURS ACT—QUESTION BY here of whether a man is being equitably MR NORRLS. dealt with. I don't think this is an equitable arrangement for enabling a Mr Norris: I understand that the Shop man to get the accustomed use of his Hours Bill has not received the Royal own property. I think it is quite wrong, Assent. If the Royal Assent is given and I hope the Trustees will take the very shortly, does your Excellency pro- question up with His Excellency of put- pose to hold an emergency Tynwald? ting this man in the position of being The Governor: If we receive it within able to house his cattle without himself a month, I will summon Tynwald as soon having to pay for a new building. as possible. Meantime, the existing law The Governor: The hon. member is must be enforced. making a speech. ISLE OF MAN (CUSTOMS) ACTS. Mr Norris: I am satisfied, from what The Attorney-General moved:— the chairman of the Trustees has said, That the following Orders made by His Ex- that the matter will be reconsidered. cellency the Lieutenant-Governor under the Mr J. H. L. Cowin: Put a motion on provisions of the Isle of Man (Customs) Acts be and the same are hereby approved :- the agenda. The Import Duties (Substitution) (No. 2) (Isle Deemster Farrant: Similar legislation of Man) Order, 1939. (Government Circular is being passed in every civilised No. 1974.) The Additional Import Duties (No. 6) (Isle of country. Man) Order, 1939. (Government Circular Mr Norris: I see there is not even an No. 1975.) appeal for eighteen months. The Import Duties (Exemptions) (No. 6) (Isle of Man) Order, 1939. (Government Circular No. 1976.) BILLS SIGNED. Agreed. The following Bills were presented for signature:—(1) The Heath Burning Bill; RAMSEY MOORAGH PROMENADE (2) The Land Drainage Amendment Bill; DEVELOPMENT SCHEME. (3) The Inheritance (Family Provision) Deemster Cowley: I beg to move:— Bill; (4) The Income Tax (Sur-tax and Whereas the Ramsey Town Commissioners Appropriation) Bill. have submitted a scheme estimated to cost

Bills Signed.—Gaming, Betting and Lotteries Act—Question by Mr Fargher.- Shop Hours Act—Question by Mr Norris.—Ramsey Mooragh Promenade Develop- ment Scheme. 696 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939.

£17,168 for the development of the Ramsey useful improvement in that part of Ram- Mooragh Promenade, to be executed over a period of two winters, and have made applica- sey, and we, therefore, recommend that tion for a grant of 75 per cent, of the cost the scheme in its original form be ap- thereof. proved. Resolved—That Tynwald approves such Mr Alcock: I have much pleasure in scheme and authorises the Treasurer of the isle of Man to apply from the current revenue seconding. The Ramsey Commissioners of this Isle, during the year ending 31st have given it very serious consideration, March, 1940, a sum not exceeding £5,925, being and a factor which appeals strongly to 75 per cent, of the cost of the first winter's me is that it will provide work for 50 work, to enable the Ramsey Town Commis- unemployed men for the next two win- sioners to proceed with the scheme in the period 1st November, 1939-31st March, 1940. ters. This will be particularly useful Payments to be made from time to time on because the work at the Jurby airport the certificate of the Chief Harbour Engineer, will be finished by next winter. and all men to be employed thereon (other than the permanent staff required for super- Mr J. H. L. Cowin: Can the Deemster vision) to be engaged from the register of un- tell us whether the promenade will end employed. in a cul de sac, or will traffic be able to go through? This was adjourned from the last Tyn- wald Court. It deals with the applica- Deemster Cowley: That will be for tion of the Ramsey Town Commission- Tynwald to decide when the time comes. ers for a 75 per cent, grant for develop- When the work was done at the end ment work on the Ramsey Mooragh of the promenade an arrangement was Promenade. At the last Court a view made to extend the road to the Bride was expressed that the Commissioners road, or possibly with a new coastal road should be asked to re-consider the joining up with the main road. The scheme, to narrow the existing roadway property owners in the neighbourhood on the Mooragh Promenade and plant are contributing £4,500 towards the cost; trees or shrubs, with a grass verge be- and the owner of the Vollan estate, Mr tween the roadway and the existing foot- Kneen, has stated that if at any time path. Following that criticism in Tyn- they wish to extend the road he will give wald, the Public Works Commission the necessary land free of cost. wrote to the Commissioners and asked Mr Norris: Will the roadway be con- them to give consideration to the matter. tinued to connect with any other road? They went into it very fully, and a special meeting of the Board was held Deemster Cowley: The present work on the ground. A deputation of the provides for a roadway as far as the Commissioners subsequently met the Ramsey Hydro. From there is a narrow Public Works Commission and intimated cart road leading to the Bride road. The that after careful consideration they had owner of the Vollan will give the land to unanimously decided to adhere to their widen that lane. original plan. One of their main Mr Fargher: Can the learned Deem- grounds of objection was that all pre- ster give us the amount which will be vious efforts to improve the appearance spent on wages on this scheme—what of the promenade by planting palms and proportion of the £17,000? shrubs there had proved abortive owing to the strong east winds. They felt, too, Deemster Cowley: I have not the that it would make a more symmetrical figures and details available, but it will job to continue the promenade at its employ 50 men for 22 weeks, making present width. In view of the strong 1,100 men-weeks, for two winters. If opinion unanimously expressed by the that is multiplied by 46/- it will provide Commissioners, the Public Works Com- the amount. It will be better than the mission accordingly recommended that usual percentage because the material Tynwald should approve the scheme. In will be obtained from the Dhoon quarry itself the scheme is an excellent one, and and provide employment there. The will provide for the requirements of Commissioners are anxious to employ as Ramsey in the way of winter work for much labour as possible. two winters by the employment of 50 Mr Fargher: The amount for labour men. Moreover, it will effect a very will be under E3,000.

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Deemster Cowley: That is for one is the development of the land further winter only. away from Ramsey rather than the land that is already sewered and which can- Mr Fargher: Well, it will be under not be developed. This road is to ex- £6,000 for the two winters. tend eventually to the Hydro and then Mr Alcock: It will be well over to the Bride road, and the only land on £10,000. that road which is not subject to build- Deemster Cowley: I will get the ing covenants and not sewered is the figures. land from Mr Clegg's house at the end of the existing promenade and from Mr Fargher: Can we have particulars there to Mr Kneen's land on the Bride of the effect of the scheme on the rates road. No buildings can be erected on of Ramsey? the Mooragh estate, and they will be Mr J. H. L. Cowin: The new member built on the new estate which is having for Ramsey, is now speaking. (Laughter.) this road put in for them. Having re- Mr Fargher: I know Ramsey, unfor- gard to the position of Ramsey, which tunately. without doubt is in a very serious condi- tion, this scheme ought not to be em- Mr Alcock: The sum of money we will barked upon. have to borrow will be less than a id. rate, and we are employing 50 men for Mr Norris: There should be taxation two winters. of land values. Mr Norris: A ?icl rate for how many Mr Fargher: I know there is going to years? be a clearance scheme in Ramsey. They are proposing to take down a lot of the Mr Alcock: Forty. property from Church Street to the Mr Fargher: I am going to vote against South Promenade. No one knows what this resolution because it is only right that is going to cost, and before long that the other side of the picture should the Court may be asked to put up be painted. Some of us know from ex- another £100,000 for that clearance perience of 30 to 40 years, and others ior scheme. I practise in Ramsey and I 20 years, that this part of Ramsey has have first-hand knowledge of what is never done a thing. Houses there have proposed. I do assert that the sugges- been let, •as the Court knows, at £26 a tion is not fair to the town of Ramsey year, and there are houses which are one to let them carry on with this scheme. story higher than on those on the Loch Work could be found for the 50 men Promenade at Douglas. Taking the that would be employed which will be whole position of Ramsey into consider- of some advantage to Ramsey. I have ation and the fact that there will be no been to the promenade since the last return for the money spent, I feel it will Court, and it is proposed to take up only be imposing another burden what is apparently a perfectly good and on Ramsey to pass this vote. Your sound road. There may be some bumps Excellency well knows, and the Court and hollows in it, .but we don't want well knows, that there are any traffic going along there at 50 to 60 m.p.h. amount of vacant building plots The present condition of the roadway alongside the road from the Baths means that traffic has got to go along to the Premier, but there are restrictive quietly. It seems a perfectly good sur- covenants on these plots, which means face for the amount of traffic, and I do that no buildings can be placed on them. submit that scheme should be referred unless they are of a type similar to those back and some decent scheme which will already erected. It stands to reason be of use to the town brought forward. that there can be no development of that Mr Alcock: As a representative of the land unless these covenants are altered town by statute or otherwise. Houses of the type already built there would to-day Mr Fargher: On a point of order, Mr cost £5,000, and yet they are let at £36, Alcock has seconded the resolution. £26, and even £20 a year. Some of Mr Alcock: I would ask the indulgence them are unlet. I feel it only right to of the Court to answer one or two of the say that the whole object of this scheme questions which have been raised. So

Ramsey Mooragh Promenade Development Scheme. 698 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. far as Mooragh Promenade is concerned, Mr Norris: 1 am going to second the it did seem to me that the sins of the amendment that the matter be referred fathers have been visited on the children back. I cannot support the motion on on to the third and fourth generations. the information before us. The hon. We have a wider outlook now and have member has told us that the whole ob- visions of developing Ramsey out as far ject is to provide work for the next two as the Dog Mills, and in the opposite winters. That is a very good object in- direction as far as Glen Auldyn, because deed; we all wish to provide work, but these are the places on which the sun we do not want the experience of adopt- shines from the skies. When Ramsey ing a scheme which might lead to some- was built close to the hillside it missed thing the effect of which we cannot fore- a great deal of the sun, and the develop- see. In years to come it will be quoted ment lies in the direction I have indi- that Tynwald approved this scheme for cated. In another four-and-a-half years the expenditure of £17,000. I under- we will be free of the Mooragh debt, and stand that the Ramsey Commissioners that will save the town a is 4d rate. own the building land on the promenade, but I feel we want more information. Mr Fargher: And you will spend it As the member for Ramsey has ad- like you did the last time. We saved mitted, it will also develop other people's you a sixpenny rate and you put on land, and the public revenue and public ninepence. services of the Island will be used to Mr Alcock: 1 agree that if we hope to put money in other people's pockets. I develop the promenade we must remove think that is a wrong thing to do at the the restrictions on building. If we are expense for the next 40 years of a id going to do that, 'we must start some- rate on Ramsey. The whole of the where, and the first thing to do is to £17,000 will not be spent on labour. We deal with this road. If you approach should know what amount will be spent Ramsey from the Mountain road you on labour, and before we authorise a will see at a glance this is the only way scheme of this nature, we should have to develop, and this is the first step in taxation of land values. Is the scheme that direction. We have delayed the re- worth a id rate for 40 years? There are construction of this road because last other schemes, we are told, that could winter there was work available at the be brought along. Ramsey is a highly. Jurby airport, but that will soon be rated area, and I understand the Com- over. If the hon. member for , missioners have not taken the view of Mr Fargher, will come to Ramsey and public opinion in this matter. We have show us where there is this "any amount no guarantee that the ratepayers of of work" he speaks about, we will gar- Ramsey are behind this. I think this is land him with a wreath of roses. To a matter where we should go a little provide work for 50 men will lift the more slowly. Ramsey had a good thing burden of unemployment from our last year when work at the airport was shoulders. I assure the Court that there in full swing, but in Douglas we have is nothing wrong with the scheme, and 300 to 400 unemployed every winter. the resolution is all right from the first The Development Committee might deal word to the last, and all we want is to with that. I think under the circum- get on with it. stances we ought to go slow and that the Mr Fargher: I move that the resolu- matter should be referred back to the tion be referred to a committee of Tyn- Public Works Commission. The scheme wald to examine and report as to does not appeal to me, to do this simply whether or not legislation is necessary for the purpose of providing work. to deal with the question of building Mr Craine: I support the resolution. covenants on the property. The people of Ramsey have given the Mr Alcock: In the meantime, what matter every consideration. There are are we going to do to provide work for 12 members of the Ramsey Commis- our unemployed? We have to get our sioners, and they voted unanimously for materials ordered, and it will take it. The Ramsey Commissioners are get- months before the work is started if it is ting very good terms, the Government referred back. voting 75 per cent, of the cost, and

Ramsey Mooragh Promenade Development Scheme. TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. 699 feel sure that any other place in the developed. It is to me a very gratifying Island would jump at the opportunity thing that on this occasion all parties in of getting the same terms if they were Ramsey are agreed upon a scheme to agreed, on schemes. It is a unanimous develop the north side. Insofar as it scheme approved by the men who repre- has been suggested that this scheme is sent the whole town. No objection has going to be a burden on the ratepayers, been raised to it in Ramsey, and yet there never has been a scheme so there are members of this Court who suitable for the development of a set themselves up as experts, who municipality as this. I agree that before actually know nothing about it. It is the second part of the scheme is brought hardly fair to the mentality and in- before the Court, steps should be taken telligence of the men who have been to have the restrictive covenants on the elected, and I hope the Court will take land amended by legislation to allow of that into consideration. Ramsey people the development of that large tract of were satisfied that it is the proper way land which is available for building in which to develop the town, and it purposes from The Premier onwards. will be an insult to Ramsey if we do I do not suppose any person will oppose not pass the resolution. the alteration of those covenants, which Mr W. K, Cowin: 1 want to support everyone now agrees are impossible to the motion. I agree with the hon. mem- carry out. The percentage of the vote ber for South Douglas, Mr Craine, that that will go in providing labour is a we must credit the Ramsey Commis- little difficult to estimate, for in addition sioners with a little intelligence, and to the 50 unemployed who will be ab- even "the thorn in their flesh," the hon. sorbed in Ramsey, it will provide work member for Ramsey, has said the scheme at the Dhoon quarries and at the Gas was a good one. That, I think, ought Works, who will supply the tar, and in to influence us. The Ramsey Commis- other ways in supplying the necessary sioners are trying to do the best they materials. With regard to the cost, I can for Ramsey and enhance the value only want to say that so far as the of the place, and though Ramsey is finances of Ramsey are concerned, it is having a bad time at present, in a year a very good bargain for them. They or two they might come forward, com- will receive 75 per cent., the remainder peting with Douglas. Without the things of the cost will be modest, and they are trying to do, and without pro- within a year the position of Ram- gress, they have no right to ask visitors sey, which has carried a heavy or anyone else to stay there. I agree burden for some years, will be con- with the hon. member for Douglas that siderably eased. In 1940 the Commis- we here do not know much about the sioners will be able to wipe off nearly matter, but in the opinion of the people the whole of the Mooragh debt. They who represent Ramsey, the scheme will will have to borrow a small sum of be of advantage to the place, and 1 £5,000 or £6,000 for a short-term loan, heartily support it. until 1946. In the year after next there Deemster Cowley: In reply to the will be a saving of an II-Ld rate, and in questions raised. I do want the Court to 1946 they will be relieved of is 4d to realise that this question of develop- is 5d. So far as the financial position ing the north end of Ramsey is no is concerned, the town is well able to new matter All my life—and I claim undertake this liability. The scheme to have had even as long an experience has been unanimously agreed upon after and knowledge of the development of a good deal of publicity in the Press— Ramsey as the hon. member for Middie it certainly cannot be said that the —there has been an unfortunate differ- people of Ramsey do not know of this ence between the north and south ends proposal. The Public Works Commis- of the town. There have been those who sion have every confidence in recom- thought the line of development lay mending the scheme to the Court. If northwards, while others have thougnt the Court do not approve of it, pro- that the south, being the front door of vision will have to be made elsewhere the town, was the side that should be for the 24 men whom the Highway

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Board have agreed to take on their part PURCHASE OF PROPERTY BY THE of this scheme, and those men will have ISLE OF MAN HARBOUR to be transferred at the expense of the COMMISSIONERS. rest of the Island. The Receiver-General moved :- The amendment to refer the matter Whereas the Isle of Man Harbour COMMiti. back to the Public Works Commission stoners have, subject to the approval of Tyn- was then put and lost without a division, wald, agreed to purchase from Mr William Nelson Callow, The Village, Michael, Isle of only Mr Fargher calling "For." Man, for the sum of £650, a dwelling-house, The resolution was put and carried. known as "Glenluce," situate in Harbour Road, formerly known as Tent Road, Laxey, adjoining the harbour, for use as a residence for the harbourmaster. Resolved—That Tynwald approves the pur- THE ROAD TRAFFIC ACTS, 1933 AND chase of the said property by the Isle of Man 1939—REGULATIONS. Harbour Commissioners and authorises the ap- propriation from the vote of £25,156 for the Mr Southward moved :— maintenance of insular harbours, passed on That the regulations entitled "The Motor the 6th June, 1939, of a sum of .E650 to com- Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations, 1939,'' plete the purchase of the said property. made by the Highway Board on the 1st day of He said: The Harbour Commissioners July, 1939, under the Road Traffic Act, 1933, and the Road Traffic Amendment Act, 1939, be beg the leave of the Court to purchase a and the same arc hereby approved. house in Lower Laxey for the harbour- mater. The house has been unlet for a He said : These regulations deal with considerable time, and the Court will, I the matter of tests for drivers, that think, readily understand that where for any licence which is issued after 1st there is one harbour master only, it is August, the driver will have to undergo Letter, if possible, to get a house as near a test. Up to the 1st August, a licence the harbour as possible. The price asked will be issued in the ordinary way. was £800. We had a valuer to value it, Agreed. and we also had our own opinion as to its value. It was valued at £650. It is in a very good state of repair, and THE ROAD TRAFFIC ACT, 1933— only needs some decoration. It is a HIGHWAY CODE. good sized house. At the present time the harbour master lives a considerable Mr Southward moved :— distance from the harbour, and it is very That the revised edition of the Highway important that he should be as near as Code made by the Highway Board under sec- possible when there is not more than tion 45 of the Road Traffic Act, 1933, be and the same is hereby approved. one harbour master. If we have this house, we will have a house at every He said : This revised edition of the harbour rn the Island, except Derby- Highway Code will be issued to those haven, where there is only one harbour who ask for a licence, so that they will be master. fully informed as to what will be The resolution was carried. required. Deemster Cowley: Is it now proposed to introduce here the 30 miles per flour DEVELOPMENT BOARD'S STAFF limit in built-up areas? I see there is a SALARIES. provision at the foot of the Code. Mr Corrin moved :— Mr Southward: No; that is marked Iii pursuance of section 4 (14) of the Town and Country Planning Act, 1934, Tynwald ap- "mainland." We had to include thi: proves the following scales of salaries for the for people -who wish to get licences in stall of the Development Board:— England. For English people who come Secretary : £220—£15—R350 per annum, with over here, too, we are keeping the code, effect as from 1st April, 1939. as far as possible, in line with the Code Typist : .08—£10—£.10—£11—£11-2120 per there. Those parts which do not affect annum, with effect as from 1st April, 1939. the Isle of Man are marked "mainland." Consultant : £250 per annum. Town Planning Officer : £550—C25—£600 per The resolution was carried. annum.

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Chief Planning Assistant: £300—£10—£20— Mr Corrin: I am quite prepared to do £20—£350 per annum. that. Planning Assistant: £200—£10—£20—£20— Mr Alcock: What is the total expendi- £250 per annum. ture before you impose this £1,910 on He said : We wish to apply for the top of it? necessary vote to enable town and The Speaker: This is a reorganisation country planning to proceed under the scheme. This is the whole staff. direction of the Development Board. I don't wish to add anything very much Mr Alcock: There are other ex- to what has been said, but I would like penses, and I just wanted to know what to say that the item of £250 for a con- the total expenditure of this Board was sultant is the first item, and will dis- going to be. Now that I am on my feet, appear in process of time, when the I say that it is an awful lot of money to town planning staff has been appointed. spend on architects for refusing plans The object of granting the salary of the of dog kennels and things like that. The chief planning assistant is in order to population of the Isle of Man, 50,000, is induce that officer to stay longer to com- less than that of an ordinary borough in plete the work. The question was England, but for a whole county of 20 or raised on the last occasion, and was that 30 boroughs the expenditure would not three officers were not necessary to carry run more than this. We are once more out ths work; but I can assure the Court at the commencement of a new financial that they are really essential, and the year, and I do want to draw the atten- only effect of reducing the amount of the tion of the Court to the state of our ex- staff would be to prolong the period penditure at the present time. I cannot necessary for completing all the plans, so see any prospect of any huge increase that no saving would be secured by a in our revenue, and I don't want to see reduction, either in the number of a huge increase in our expenditure. officers or in their salary, but rather the The Governor: We are discussing a tendency might be to make it more ex- resolution about the Development Board. pensive by prolonging the period very not the general finances of the Island. considerably. There is just one other word I want to say, and it is this. Our Mr Alcock: I am suggesting to the work would have been made very much Court now that we should not go into easier if the new survey had been made this expenditure to-day. before taking up this work, and a great The resolution was carried. deal of their work will consist of survey- ing and bringing up to date our present survey maps. T.T. AND OTHER RACES GRANTS. Deemster Cowley moved:— Mr Norris: I would like to ask whether, That in pursuance of the recommendations in the terms of the appointment, is there contained in the report of a committee of Tyn- a limit, what is the limit, and will it be wald dated 16th November, 1937, Tynwald is of brought before the Court at a subsequent opinion that provision should be made in the date if any change is to take place? estimates for 1940-41 for an expenditure of Have you a limit in the terms of the £5,000 towards the cost of the following races appointment, with a view to the to be held in the Isle of Man in 1940:— International Auto-Cycle Races £3,500 termination of this temporary appoint- Manx Grand Prix Races 800 ment? International T.T. Bicycle Race 200 Mr Corrin: No, we haven't, but we Air Races £500 have what I consider a reasonable period £5,000 of five years. We couldn't tie the hands of the town planning staff to a very de- He said: This resolution deals with finite period of years, and this is the expenditure, not for the current year but period given in the opinion of experts, for next year, which it is necessary to five years. pass so that arrangements can be made. It is the usual vote towards the cost of Mr Norris: Would you be prepared to the T.T. Races, Manx Grand Prix Races, give an undertaking that you will come International T.T. Bicycle Race, and Air to the Court again in five years? Races. I think the Court will have real-

T.T. and other Races Grants. 702 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. ised this year more than ever before the foreign competitors to come over here enormous publicity value of the races to with what are called freak machines to the Island. The national Press devoted sweep away or injure British trade, I pages of photographs and news with re- am sure I am not the only one in the gard to them to an extent for which we Island who wonders whether it is really couldn't have paid with money. i move worth while. Whether a committee is the resolution with every confidence. appointed or not, I think the most care- Mr Norris: I second that, for in doing ful inquiry ought to be persisted in, and so I would point out that there is a com- someone ought to be authorised to get to mittee to supervise this. I take it that know from the A.C.U. as to whether it is that committee is still in existence. necessary to spend £3,500. which I am sure the races over here don't cost them. Deemster Cowley: That committee has There are other sources of income such ceased to function. It was appointed to as entrance fees, and I think they get a inquire into the re-allocation of the proportion of the grand stand receipts. money which the car races were aban- While I am whole-heartedly in favour of doned. When we reported our duties developing these races, and I whole- were at an end. heartedly believe that they have been of Mr Craine: There was a committee of tremendous value to the Island, I have which I was a member, two or three an uneasy feeling that the A.C.U. is years previous to that. benefiting apart from the actual races. Mr Norris: I think the committee Mr Fargher: I was going to move an should function. I will move that the amendment to this vote, that the whole same committee or another committee of this matter be referred to a committee should function. of Tynwald to consider whether this The Speaker: I may say that I was £3,500 is an adequate sum or otherwise. on the committee for several years which But there is another matter which is had several interviews with representa- exercising my mind, and which may be tives of the A.C.U., and during these in- of greater importance, and that is that a terviews we made several efforts to dis- committee should be appointed to deal cover what they did with this consider - particularly with regulations made by able sum (£3,500), which they receive the A.C.U. for the conduct of the races from the Isle of Man, but were quite un- in the Isle of Man. Your Excellency is able to do so, and, personally, I came to well aware that during the last races the conclusion, rightly or wrongly, that which took place here two men lost their out of this £3,500, the A.C.U. pay not lives. Possibly there could be a regula- only what costs are incurred in connec- tion concerning the transport of racing tion with these races, but the majority of machines to and from the course, and other expenses as well in connection there may have been a non-observance with the maintenance of their office and of some racing regulation that may be in staff in London. It must be by far the existence. I think we should immedi- most considerable item of expenditure ately set up a committee, and go through they have, and I am sure it is by far the the whole of their regulations. Our most considerable item of income the duty, primarily, in the Isle of Man A.C.U. have. Personally I was under is to protect our public. I never the impression during the years I was heard of such serious breaches of on this committee that the A.C.U. does all types of regulations as took remarkably well out of the Isle of Man. place when these two young men, I should be the very last in the Court to both belonging to the Isle of Man, lost under-estimate the publicity value of their lives after the Senior T.T. races. these races. They are of the highest There was a 'hotted-up" motor-cycle, as possible value in this direction, and I used for racing, started up on the course hope I should be the last to fail to appre- with the course full of people when the ciate the considerable amount of interest bicycle couldn't be controlled at slow the A.C.U. has taken in the Isle of Man, speed. It had a racing plug and every- but I have occasionally in recent times thing possible for racing purposes. I do been led to consider whether this ex- think that the whole matter should be penditure is really necessary. If the ob- referred to a committee, not only as to ject or result of it was to be to assist the £3,500, but as to regulations con-

T.T. and other Races Grants. TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. 703 cerning the conduct of the races, and 1 actly the same way, and we are simply ask the Court to consider it very, very doing what is done all over the world. carefully and to vote for the amendment. If there is a freak machine, which to my Mr Alcock: I second that. I do think mind is absurd and not a thing we wish it should be referred to a committee. to see on our roads day in and day out, There is no doubt about it, if you ask that is a matter for the trade; but as far any person in the Island—north, south, as the Isle of Man and the A.C.U. is east or west—they all do resent having concerned, we are simply doing what to pay competitors to come over here to every country in the world is doing, and compete in these races; and particularly that is paying appearance money, and because, if you listened to the weighty there is no doubt that it has added to the remarks of the Speaker a moment ago, international reputation of the races, you will know that we depend to an ex- which are known all over the world. If traordinary extent on the good will of they are not held here in the month of the people in Great Britain, and we June we will be crying out for lack of alienate the good feeling of the people business. The races put us on the map of Great Britain by paying foreign com- and make us known throughout the petitors to come over here and knock world. I hope members won't be car- the stuffing out of their competitors. ried away by the reference to the deplor- First of all, I don't think it is a sporting able accident. To be fair to the A.C.U., thing to do. If we had good men going that has nothing to do with them if they over to Belgium to race, they wouldn't carried out their regulations. I don't ask us to pay their expenses. We might think that red herrings should be drawn do it, but Belgium wouldn't pay a across the path. I knew both the vic- shilling to bring them over there. Sport tims of this accident, and it is only fair is sport; you enter and take your chance, that the blame should be laid with the and it would be a very sad day for sport people responsible. It should not be if you had to pay for entrants, to en- suggested that the A.C.U. is responsible. courage people to come not for sport, but Mr Fargher: I never said that. to make money. There is no man or woman of intelligence in this Island who Mr Craine: I thought you did. doesn't resent this idea of paying foreign Mr Fargher: I said the machines competitors to come over here. That is should be off the road. one of the things that I think this com- Mr J. H. L. Cowin: A year or two ago mittee ought to consider before they do there was a committee appointed to con- anything else. sider questions in regard to these races. Mr Craine: I am perfectly agreeable Meetings took place with Mr Lough- to this being referred to a committee, borough, secretary of the Auto-Cycle but as one of the old committee I think Union, and social contacts were made, the A.C.U. originally asked for more but for some reason or other there was than £3,500. The chairman of the High- one year when they did not meet. I way Board was one of the members of asked why it was abandoned; I tele- the committee. They put the facts and phoned to Government Office to ask figures in front of us and said that this why, and I was told that the committee was part and parcel of the work of the had been disbanded. As to the appoint- A.C.U. and ought to be spread over the ment of a committee, I think that that is cost. They pointed out that the prize a good way of supervising expenditure, money should be increased tremen- and when they want additional money dously, and this year, with so many they would put the argument before us finishers, I believe the prize money must as to why they wanted that money, and have been more than in any race since if it was found that they were extrava- the races have been held, and they are gant we could make a reduction. Out- faced with that. Also, with regard to side the question of racing, this is really. the subsidising of foreign competitors— to my mind, an additional advertising I know the hon. member for Ramsey grant. Half-a-million visitors come to means well—in practically every big the Island, and we spend £10,000 a year race on the Continent every English in advertising. This is another £5,000 rider is paid appearance money in ex- for advertising, and I think we should

T.T. and other Races Grants. 704 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. vote it very readily. If a committee is Mr Norris seconded, and it was to be appointed I have no objection, be- carried. cause it will bring the A.C.U. into closer Mr Fargher: I take it that the com- touch with the Government of the Island. mittee will deal with the question of A joint committee would be excellent. regulations as well. When the Manx Deemster Cowley: May I say, in re- Grand Prix races are on all motor-cycles ply, that I think there is a little mis- which fall out of the race must be left on understanding about the question of a the course to be collected when the race committee. When a committee was first is over. That happens in the practices appointed, I was not a member of the also. There are no such regulations Court, and the committee appointed to with the A.C.U., and if this regulation consider the question of the amount to had been tightened up there would have allocated consisted of the Speaker, Mr been no such accidents as those last Southward, Mr Craine, the hon. mem- month. ber for Middle (Mr J. H. L. Cowin), and, The Governor: I have received a pro- I think, originally, the late Mr A. B. visional assurance on this subject from Crookall. There was some discussion of the A.C.U. the expenditure being entirely justified, and the matter was brought to a head Deemster Cowley: Would it meet the when the question was raised as to hon. member's views if we added the whether we should any longer contribute words at the end of the resolution, "and to the motor races, and a committee was the committee kept in being to report appointed; and although, as the Speaker on any question arising thereon"? said, the difficulty in the past had been The vote was agreed to. to get full details of the expenditure, I can assure your Excellency and the SALARIES OF REGISTRARS. Court that the details were gone through. The Attorney-General moved:— with a fine toothcomb. We were satis- That, in terms of section 3 (5) of the Civil fied that the total cost of the A.C.U. Registration and Dissenters Marriage Act, 1924, races to the A.C.U., so far as the Isle of Tynwald approves of the salaries of the Superintendent Registrar and Registrars being Man is concerned, was not £3.500, but increased by 10 per cent., with effect as from £2,500, and that the Isle of Man was, in 1st July, 1939, in consideration of the addi- fact, contributing £1,000 a year towards tional duties cast upon them by the Population the general administration expenses of (Statistics) Act, 1939. the A.C.U. Those facts and figures care- He said: We have lately passed the fully scheduled and set out in detail were Population Statistics Act, 1939, which presented to this Court in the report, will substantially increase the duties of and that report was adopted. The grant these various officers. It is proposed so was continued at £3,500, and the £1,500 long as that is in operation that there for the car races was re-allocated to the should be a 10 per cent, increase, which three other races in this resolution. amounts in the current year to £34. The Speaker: I think the amount was Agreed. £5,000 originally, of which they had the whole lot. We gradually pared it down ERECTION OF POLICE STATION AT each year to help the Grand Prix. SULBY. Deemster Cowley: The Grand Prix The Speaker moved:— never came into existence as an object That the Treasurer of the Isle of Man be for assistance until the £1,500 from the authorised to apply from the funds standing to Car Races was available. I think there the credit of the Isle of Man Accumulated Fund a sum not exceeding £900, to enable the is a feeling in the minds of the Court Government Property Trustees (a) to acquire that it is a pity that the committee was by purchase the dwelling-house known as not kept in existence. We reported to Queen's Villa, situated on the main road. the Court, and there, strictly speaking, Sulby, in the parish of Lezayre, for the sum of our function ended. I would suggest £550, and (b) to alter the said Premises for use that the committee already in existence as a police station at an estimated cost of £350. should be kept in being to be called in He said: If the absence of the hon. to meet any details that may arise. I member of the Council, Mr Quirk, I beg propose that. to move this resolution. Sometime ago

Salaries of Registrars.—Erection of Police Station at Suthy. TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. 705- it was the intention of the Chief Con- until 5th July, 1939: Mr Dalgleish, Mr stable to station two men at Andreas, Speaker, and Mr A. J. Teare.) and the Government Property Trustees The committee was re-elected en bloc. proceeded to purchase land with a view to erecting houses for the two men. They purchased the land, and a committee BOARD OF AGRICULTURE— was appointed to consider the whole APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS. question. It recommended one man at Andreas and one at Sulby. That was Appointment of seven members for adopted, and that is why provision has three years ending 5th July, 1942. to be made at Sulby. We had the ques- (Members appointed to serve until 5th tion of building the new station at an July, 1939: Mr Alcock, Mr J. H. L. estimated cost of £1,200 when our atten- Cowin, Mr Craine, Mr Kelly, Mr Cottier, tion was drawn to this property. We Mr Robert Kneen and Mr Farrant.) considered it could be bought and The committee was re-elected en bloc. adapted for £900. We have had it valued and are quite satisfied about it. The motion was carried. LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOARD— APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS. Appointment of seven members for CRONK RUAGH SANATORIUM. three years ending 5th July, 1942. Mr Corrin moved:— (Members appointed to serve until 5th That the Treasurer of the Isle of Man be July, 1939: The Receiver-General, Mr authorised to apply from the funds standing Quirk, Mr Corrin, Mr Gill, Mr Crellin, to the credit of the Isle of Man Accumlated Mr A. J. Teare, and Mr Clinton.) Fund a sum not exceeding 2200 to enable the Government Property Trustees to enlarge the The committee was re-elected en bloc. caretaker's cottage at Croak Ruagh Sana- torium by the provision of two additional bed- rooms. DOUGLAS CORPORATION—BYE- He said: In the absence of the Chair- LAWS FOR TRAFFIC. man of the Local Government Board, I move this item. This place is very tiny Petition of the Douglas Corporation and the accommodation totally inade- for the approval of bye-laws dated 9th quate. May, 1939, made by the petitioners for regulating the traffic in certain streets The resolution was carried. within the borough of Douglas.—The Local Government Board presented its MENTAL HOSPITAL BOARD— report. APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS. The Receiver-General moved:— Appointment of five members for three "That bye-laws 1, 4, 5 and 6 be ap- years ending 5th July, 1942. (Members proved, and that bye-laws 2, 3, and 7 be appointed to serve until 5th July, 1939: disapproved." Mr Craine, Mr Cottier, Mr Kitto, Mr He said: If hon. members of the Court Robert Kneen and Mr McArd.) have taken the trouble to read the re- The Speaker: In view of the fact that port of the Local Government Board, every member of the House of Keys they will find out what we have recom- goes out of office in November, I beg to mended. We had long discussions in the move that the Mental Hospital Board Local Government Board, with the Chief be re-elected en bloc. Constable and the Douglas Corporation. Mr J. H. L. Cowin seconded, and it One recommendation dealt with Nelson was agreed. Street, and would be a very considerable hardship on tradesmen in that street. One firm, Heron and Brearley, have a STANDING ORDERS—PUBLIC garage and stable in Drumgold Street. PETITIONS COMMITTEE. They were not allowed to come up Appointment of three members for Nelson Street. one year. (Members appointed to serve Mr Craine: I am going to move that - - Croak Ruagh Sanatorium.--Mental Hospital Board—Appointment of Members.— Standing Orders—Public Petitions Committee.—Board of Agriculture—Appointment of Members.—Local Government Board—Appointment of Members.—Douglas Corporation—Bye-Laws for Traffic. 706 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 6, 1939. this matter be referred back. The Cor- This concluded the business of the poration have not yet been able to con- Court, but sider the refusal of these recommenda- At the request of the Governor mem- tions. bers stayed behind for the filming of a Agreed. motion picture record of Tynwald.

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Douglas, Thursday, July 6, 1939.

Present: The Speaker (Mr J. D. Qual- coupled with the hope that he may be trough, J.P.), Messrs T. A. Quayle, J. spared for many years to work here. I Clinton, T. H. Kneen, E. B. C. Farrant, have here a little gift as a souvenir of A. J. Cottier, W. K. Cowin, T. Callow, our good wishes. (Applause.) J. H. L. Cowin, T. Clucas, E. W. Fargher, The Speaker then presented Mr John- Richard Kneen, W. A Kelly, J. J. Mc- son with a gold cigarette case on behalf Ard, Mrs Shimmin, Messrs W. H. Alcock, of the members of the House. S. Norris, A. E. Kato; R. Q. Hampton, and W. C. Craine, with MrF. B. Johnson, Mr Norris: I have very great pleasure Secretary and Clerk to Tynwald. in endorsing what Mr Speaker has so ably said in connection with this aus- picious event. We are all greatly de- PRESENTATION TO SECRETARY ON lighted that our Secretary is taking this APPROACHING MARRIAGE. step. I am one of the members of the House who have had the privilege of The Speaker: As the House will be meeting the lady, and I can assure the already aware, our Secretary has de- House that on both sides the happiest cided, very wisely, I think, to take unto choice has been made. I trust our himself a wife, and I understand that Secretary and his wife will long be next week he is to be' united to a very spared and that Mr Johnson himself will charming young lady in the holy bonds be able for many years to come to assist of wedlock. As members of the House us in our proceedings. of Keys, we are very anxious to mark the occasion by a small testimonial of Mr Craine: I wish to support all that our good wishes and the appreciation in has been said by Mr Speaker and the which we hold him. He has not been hon. member for North Douglas, and to secretary of the House for a long period, assure Mr Johnson that this little gift but we have already realised that he has has not been merely a matter of form. those special qualities which Mr Ramsey Every member felt he wished to express Johnson, his uncle,, so richly possessed the same feeling of good wishes towards and which mark him out for the posi- the Secretary of the House on his mar- tion which he holds. (Hear, hear.) I riage. I, too, know the lady, and I have am sure we have every confidence that had some association with Mr Johnson. in the years to come he will be able to They are two very earnest young people. render great service I to the House of They realise that to do anything in this Keys. We could not let this happy occa- world they have got to give themselves. sion go by without telling him how very I have very great pleasure is supporting. heartily we wish him success in his mar- (Applause.) ried life and all possible happiness, The Secretary: I do not feel I can ade-

Presentation to Secretary on approaching Marriage.