立法會 Legislative Council LC Paper No. CB(1)876/19-20 (These minutes have been seen by the Administration) Ref : CB1/PL/ITB Panel on Information Technology and Broadcasting Minutes of meeting held on Monday, 11 May 2020, at 2:30 pm in Conference Room 3 of the Legislative Council Complex Members present : Hon Charles Peter MOK, JP (Chairman) Hon Elizabeth QUAT, BBS, JP (Deputy Chairman) Hon James TO Kun-sun Hon WONG Ting-kwong, GBS, JP Hon Mrs Regina IP LAU Suk-yee, GBS, JP Hon Claudia MO Hon YIU Si-wing, BBS Hon MA Fung-kwok, SBS, JP Hon CHAN Chi-chuen Hon CHAN Han-pan, BBS, JP Ir Dr Hon LO Wai-kwok, SBS, MH, JP Hon Alvin YEUNG Hon CHU Hoi-dick Hon SHIU Ka-fai, JP Hon YUNG Hoi-yan, JP Hon CHAN Chun-ying, JP Hon HUI Chi-fung Member absent : Hon CHUNG Kwok-pan Members attending : Hon WU Chi-wai, MH Dr Hon KWOK Ka-ki Hon Dennis KWOK Wing-hang Hon IP Kin-yuen - 2 - Public officers : Agenda item III attending Innovation and Technology Bureau Mr Alfred SIT Wing-hang, JP Secretary for Innovation and Technology Mr Davey CHUNG Pui-hong, JP Deputy Secretary for Innovation and Technology (2) Office of the Government Chief Information Officer Mr Victor LAM Wai-kiu, JP Government Chief Information Officer Mr Ton g WONG Chi-kwong, JP Deputy Government Chief Information Officer Ms Cari WU Wa Senior Systems Manager (G&R)3 Agenda item IV Commerce and Economic Development Bureau Mr Edward YAU, GBS, JP Secretary for Commerce and Economic Development Mr Clement LEUNG, JP Permanent Secretary for Commerce and Economic Development (Communications and Creative Industries) Mr Keith GIANG Principal Assistant Secretary for Commerce and Economic Development (Communications and Creative Industries)A Radio Television Hong Kong Mr LEUNG Ka-wing, JP Director of Broadcasting Ms CHAN Man-kuen Deputy Director of Broadcasting (Programmes) - 3 - Clerk in attendance : Mr Daniel SIN Chief Council Secretary (1)6 Staff in attendance : Ms Mandy LI Senior Council Secretary (1)6 Mr Patrick CHOI Council Secretary (1)6 Ms Yvonna HO Clerical Assistant (1)6 Action I. Information papers(s) issued since the last meeting Members noted that no paper had been issued since the regular meeting held on 20 April 2020. II. Date of next meeting and items for discussion (LC Paper No. CB(1)593/19-20(01) -- List of outstanding items for discussion LC Paper No. CB(1)593/19-20(02) -- List of follow-up actions) Regular meeting on 8 June 2020 2. The Chairman said that the discussion on the item "Latest progress of the implementation of the Subsidy Scheme to Extend Fibre-based Networks to Villages in Remote Areas", originally scheduled for today's meeting, had been deferred to the next regular meeting scheduled for 8 June 2020, while the item "The governance and management of Radio Television Hong Kong" had been included for discussion at the meeting. Members noted that the next regular Panel meeting would be held on Monday, 8 June 2020 at 2:30 pm to discuss the following items: (a) Update on smart city development; (b) Launching of "iAM Smart" platform and other digital government service initiatives; and (c) Latest progress of the implementation of the Subsidy Scheme to Extend Fibre-based Networks to Villages in Remote Areas. Action - 4 - Promoting innovation and technology development in Hong Kong 3. The Chairman said that the Deputy Chairman had previously submitted a letter suggesting that the Panel should discuss, possibly in a joint meeting with the Panel on Commerce and Industry ("CI Panel"), Hong Kong's innovation and technology ("I&T") overall development strategy and consolidation of resources. The Chairman said that the Administration had now proposed to put an item on "Innovation and technology development and re-industrialization policy in Hong Kong" in the agenda of the meeting of the CI Panel on 16 June 2020, which addressed the concerns the Deputy Chairman raised. The Chairman said that the CI Panel Chairman was considering whether members of this Panel should be invited to join the discussion. Instead of holding a joint Panel meeting, members of this Panel could take part in the discussion of item at the meeting of CI Panel. Members had no objection to the proposed arrangement. Data centre development in Hong Kong 4. The Chairman informed members that the Administration had not yet provided an information paper for the Panel in response to Mrs Regina IP's earlier suggestion that an item be put on the agenda of a Panel meeting to discuss the data centre development in Hong Kong. The Chairman instructed the Clerk to follow it up with the Administration. (Post-meeting note: An information paper provided by the Administration was circulated to members vide LC Paper No. CB(1)644/19-20(01) on 18 May 2020.) Visit to Smart Government Innovation Lab and Hong Kong Applied Science and Technology Research Institute 5. The Chairman said that in view of the recent coronavirus disease-2019 ("COVID-19") pandemic, the visit to Smart Government Innovation Lab ("Smart Lab") and Hong Kong Applied Science and Technology Research Institute was subsequently rescheduled. In view of the tight meeting schedule before the end of the current term, the Chairman proposed and members agreed that the visit should be cancelled. 6. In response to Mr CHAN Chun-ying's query on whether a virtual tour, instead of an on-site visit, could be made, Secretary for Innovation and Technology ("S for IT") said that the Administration would facilitate members to visit the Smart Lab in person or online. While there might be insufficient time for the Administration to give a briefing with the aid of virtual reality technology at the meeting, the Administration would subsequently upload Action - 5 - virtual docent tour video onto the thematic website to facilitate viewing of the Smart Lab by members. (Post-meeting note: The Administration has prepared a virtual tour of the Smart Lab. Members may access the tour through the hyperlink https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=Zikn8xcX8jV. The information was issued to members vide LC Paper No. CB(1)727 /19-20 on 5 June 2020.) III. Smart Government Innovation Lab (LC Paper No. CB(1)593/19-20(03) -- Administration's paper on the Smart Government Innovation Lab LC Paper No. CB(1)593/19-20(04) -- Paper on the Smart Government Innovation Lab prepared by the Legislative Council Secretariat (Background brief)) Briefing by the Administration 7. At the invitation of the Chairman, S for IT gave introductory remarks on the work progress of the Smart Lab. Deputy Government Chief Information Officer then gave a powerpoint presentation on the progress of Smart Lab in promoting the adoption of I&T products and solutions in public services. Details of the briefing were set out in the Administration's paper (LC Paper No. CB(1)593/19-20(03)). (Post-meeting note: A soft copy of the powerpoint presentation (Chinese version only) was circulated to members vide LC Paper No. CB(1)601/19- 20(01) by email on 11 May 2020.) Discussion Smart Lab 8. Some members including Mr CHAN Chun-ying, Ms YUNG Hoi-yan Mrs Regina IP and Mr YIU Si-wing shared the view that 15 proof-of-concept projects, as set out in Annex 1 to the Administration's paper (LC Paper No. CB(1)593/19-20(03)), were less important to the public. While the efforts of the Office of the Government Chief Information Officer ("OGCIO") in establishing Smart Lab were commendable, Mr CHAN commented that the Administration Action - 6 - should step up efforts to provide more convenient public services, such as promoting the adoption of information technology ("IT") solutions in the Transport Department to facilitate the applications for renewal of vehicle licences in a more effective manner. Mr YIU and Mr CHAN Han-pan expressed similar views. Mr YIU asked whether the Administration would consider adopting the office automation system so that government staff could work from home by remotely accessing the relevant system to speed up the approval procedures of licence applications. 9. Mr CHAN Chun-ying noted that over 60 solutions and services proposed by the local industry and universities had been successfully matched by the E&M InnoPortal, while the Smart Lab had matched a total of 31 business needs with solutions. He sought information on whether the Administration had awarded any contract for the implementation of these IT solutions, and the number of start-ups had successfully bid for government projects. 10. S for IT said that the Administration had promoted active participation of industry players to assist departments in adopting various IT solutions to improve public services. He said that most of the 31 solutions and services that had been successfully matched, were provided by local start-ups. Government Chief Information Officer ("GCIO") said that, while most start-ups were awarded contracts, some projects were planned for trial to test if they could meet the business needs of departments and if they were technically feasible. The expenses of arranging proof-of-concept trial for solutions were shared by the Administration. For example, the Administration had spent $170,000 for arranging proof-of-concept trial of a project, entitled "Use light detection and ranging (LiDAR) to estimate the average journey time and speed of vehicles on specific road sections". The solution was put forward by a start-up in Hong Kong Science Park. 11. GCIO further said that the proof-of-concept trials would enable bureaux and departments ("B/Ds") to better understand how the solutions could effectively address their business needs and be implemented.