Ancestors and Descendants
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ANC ESTO RS AND D ESC END ANTS JO SEPH PAYNE THE SI'TH F E T RIN N Y O W S U . T , ’ Co mpiled by fi ‘ A ’ Edw ard Payri e S che icl l eman ’ ’ “ h Pi rim s faith t he Pi rim s co ur a e T e lg , lg g r ant u s g , St ill Shines t he truth that fo r t he Pilgrim sho ne . A W ORD TO THE CLAN Inasmuch as we have been holding reunions since 32 w d s eem 1 9 , it oul that a genealogical record of this f m w branch of the P ayne a ily ould be of some interest . In collecting data it has been necessary to make nu I f v mer ou s inquiries . have always ound e eryone cour t eous and willing to do their bit . “ Much time and p a tience has been expended in the endeavor to make a correct record and if an error ' is i found vour t olerance s reques ted . In some instances it wa s m b m t i possi le to obtain co ple e dates , therefore blank i pages have been nserted for your convenience . By loaningb old papers letters and legal documents , n Y an r P a . d M s . e . Fannie y Lovej oy , Copenhagen , N , r n nP l t . s . Va e M Martha Pay e , Antwerp , N Y have been esp eci a l l v instrumental in helping us estab lish our line e a e M L over m age . W r also indebted to ary g Holman H - t . Genealogist and is orical Compiler , Watertown , Mass , for her articles on the P aynes of England and t We did not know the name of that , who wi h - ancestor t t w in repid pioneer spiri , was illing to brave hardships that he might come to these colonial shores to establish . t d a home The same spiri existe in our Joseph , who , u e f m ox — with his wife E nice and th ir a ily, came by cart M hu from Berkshire County, as sac setts , to the rugged i w . Y . s C o . country in Le , N , and settled in West Turin r S v Afte searching through genealo ogical records in e eral libraries ( the fine Gene a l o gi ca l Department in the r Y l Library at Sy acuse , N . , has been of invaluab e assist ff ance ) , visiting town clerk o ices and cemeteries in and ” ’ e o dfin r c d c t around Turin and in the Cap C y , the indi a e tions w re that we belonged to the East ham Branch . This problem wa s finally turned over to Sidney Merriam i s Genealogist , of Marblehead , Mass . , to solve . It now a a a proven fact that we belong to the E stham Br nch , that we are Mayflower descendants and therefore eligible to join the Society of the Mayflower . It is with pleasure that I dedicate thi s Genealogical Record to the descendants of Joseph Payne the Sixth , of i West Tur n , New York , whose paternal ancestor was s . Thomas Payne of Ea tham , Massachusetts MAN EDWARD PAYNE S CHEID LE . 7 R a e C emeter Wes t 1 m m N ew Yo rk y , , The resting pl ace of Joseph Payne the sixth h and Eunice Wright , i s wife , who Were the pioneer s ettl e r s o f the Paynes in this section of New York S tate . THE PAYNES O F ENG LAND AND NORMANDY / by M a r y L oved mg H o l ma n “ ”The name of Pay ne or Paine is derived from Paga the nus , which was from Latin and doubtless came into h i o f England by way of Normandy . The story this sur name is really remarkable . The original Greek word Na us y meant , a fountain and the neighborhood about a fountain gradually came to have the name applied to it . From this use it was only a step to apply the word t o the “ inhabitants of the neighborhood and cal l them Pagans -J Thus the word meaning a fountain gradua lly applied to rural things in general a nd we s e e it in one modern form “ ” n s pe asa t . ' At a time when s o large a proportion of men were _ e soldiers , and the people who were not wer largely coun “ ” tr men y , the name Pagan was applied rather con t einp t ous l y to all those w ho d id not serve their King in h i i s ti a n . C a military fashion After the era began , the “ follow”ers of Christ were always considered the sol diers of Christ and t o those not of hi s religious army the word pagan w as applied as it had been used to signify those not i n the civil a rmy z Fromthis application there ‘ ” wa s d — read into the wor , the meaning of non Christian “ ” d . which the wor pagan bears today . In this sense it wa s a pplied widely . The early Church called the Moham “ ” med a ns Pagans and so did the Romans call those m a Norse en th t swept over Rome and her provinces . There is some question whether as a p ersonal appella ‘ tion it was fir st applied to one who reject ed C i r i s t or to c n r n one who was a ou t vma . The Norman Paynes are general ly believed to be de scended from one or several men who at the time that R n b ollo , of Norma dy , ecame a Christian , refused to be d a nd n u baptize , were hence disti g ished from the rest of l “ “ l e l e . the followers of Ro lo , as Pagan , or Paten Whereve r the name occurs it was undoubtedly first a p l a b p ied as sou riquet like Le Sauvage and Wildman . The names of P a ga nel and P ay ne l l are considered E n o ne by llis and others to be dimi utives of Pagan , and famous man having this form of the name , Ralph w m R P a enel a s W . e g , a headman of illia the Conqueror cent research has proven . the identity of the various forms of the name a s well a s its appearance in many h a l e s . countries . Franc its Payen , Paen and Payn Ita y has i t s Pagana and Portugal its Payana . After the Nor man conquest there were various settlements o f men bear ing the name i n England besides those present there b e h P a a nu 1 0 66 . t e s fore During Norman Dynasty , g or Payn e w a s one of the most usual names in England and on this account i s now very widely found in all the coun ties A family of Paynes settled in Norfolk in the fi f t e enth century , who claim descent from the Ancient House of P ay nel l of Hambie in the arrondissement of P a nel Coutances . The change from y to Payne may well have been made to evade t h e vexatious English laws P a nel l s against aliens . Another branch of the y of Ham bi e settled in Yorks hire and in this family it appears “ that the same individual Wa s frequently called both Pay nell and Payne . In studying the arms of any English family it i s fr e v quently found that there i s a parent coat and that many o f - the other coats ascribed to the same name belong to offshoots of the same family with just enough difference T . to distinguish them . his is not true of the Paynes Of the thirty - four Coats of Arms ascribed to the name in ’ Burke s Armory almost all a re entirely unlike . This points to the probability that the families are not from one pa r ent stock b ut that each h as arisen into pr omi nence s e a i at el r p y , and tends to cont adict the assertion that all the Paynes are descendants from the Norman e followers of Rollo . It seems much mor probable that “ the several families of the name are descended from” unrelated progenitors each of whom was called “ Pagan either because he was a co untryman or because he was not a Christian . t There are a few Coats of Arms , however , hat tie M l t e . families of the , name ogeth r In Bedford and idd e “ ’ b e x w . s e e find families bearing Arms Gules , a fes s o r e . tween two lions passing, in Dors t and Denbigh we “ si x find again the same Arms Per bend o”r and azure , i s roundels counterchanged , two and two . There also found in Dorset another coat of arms which is borne by “ S i x a Leicester Payne fam”ily , namely Paly of or and a i s azure , a chief Ermine , and closely llied to this a “ a l v h - o r a Hereford coat P of eig t and zure , a chief Ermine .