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[Eighth Series, Vol. XXXv, Tenth Session, 198811909 (Saka)]

No.4. Thursday, February 25, 1988IPhaiguna 6, 1909 (Saka)

COLUMNS

Oral Answers to Questions :

·Starred Questions Nos. 41 to 46 and 49 1-31

Written Answers to Questions : 31 -343

Starred Questions Nos. 47, 48 and 50 to 60 31-55

Unstarred Questions Nos. 421 to 491, 493 to 520, 55 - 343 522 to 540, 542 to 572, 574 to 641 and 643

Personal Ex~lanation by Member 343-351

Shri Arif Mohammad Khan

Papers Laid on the Table 351 -362

Committee on Public Undertakings- 362 Thirty-sixth Report-presented

Matters Under Rule 377- 362-369

(i) Demand for a low power T. V. transmitter in 362-363 Bhanjanagar (Orissa)-

Shri Somnath Rath

(ii) Demand for supply of more electricity to Rajasthan 363-364 for agriculture and drinking water supply schemes-

Shri Ram Singh Vadav

(iii) Demand for reviewing the new textile policy 364-365 to save closure of textile mills-

Shri Sharad Dighe

• The Sign t marked above the name of a Member indicates that the Question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (Ii) COLUMNS

(Iv) Demand for supply of wheat at subsidised rates to the 365-366 drought affected people of Rajasthan-

Shri Virdhi Chandar Jain

(v) Demand for compensation to those who lost their 366 eye-sight in the mobile eye operation camp at ChintaMani in Kolar district of Karnata-

Shri G.S. Basavaraju

(vi) Demand for Measures to improve the lot of the 366-367 Andhra Pradesh cotton growers-

Prof. N.G. Ranga

(vii) Demand for setting up industries In certain places in 367-368 West Dinajpur district of West Bengal which has been declared 'No-industry district'-

Shri Anand Pathak

(viii) Demand for Remunerative price to farmers for their produce- 368 - 369

Shri Ramashray Prasad Stngh

Motion of Thanks on the President's Address- 369-466

Shri Amal Datta 369-384

Shri Jagannath Rao 384-389

Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 389-394

Prof. Madhu Dandavate 395-414

Shn Somnath Rath 414-418

Shn Shripati Mishra 418 -422

Shri Ram Narain Singh 422-427

Shri Brajamohan Mohanty 427-432

Shri Umakant Mishra 432-438 (iii) COLUMNS

Dr. A. Kalanidhi 438-448

Shri Digvijaya Singh 448-454

Shri Rameshwar Neekhra 454-463

Prof. Saifuddin Soz 463-466

Statement Re: Successful Test Firing of "Prithvi", 's 394-395 surface-to-surface missile-

Shri Rajiv Gandhi

LOt( SABHA DEBATES

LOKSABHA (b) and (c). The Government of India. State Governments, Central Health Educa- tion Bureau and the Regional Cancer Centres in different parts of the country have already undertaken health education pro- Thursday, February, 25 1988IPhalguna 6, grammes for prevention and early detection 1909 (Saka) of cancer through radio, television. films, newspapers and periodicals. Exhibitions are also organised and printed materials distrib- uted to educate the puplic on the preventive The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock aspects of cancer.

[ Trans/ation] [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI: Hon. Speaker, I congratulate him on giving an- ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS swer to the first question.

[English] SHRt KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: Han. Cancer Education Programme Speaker, I want to know from the hon. Min- ister the t01al number of patients in India who *41. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: were suffering from cancer during 1985-86 Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILV and 1986-87 and what is the number of such WELFARE be pleased to state: patients in Uttar Pradesh now? What is the number of cancer patients dying in India on (a) whether cancer detected at a very account of non~etectlon of the disease at late stage causes the ':ieath of the patient; the initial stage?

(b) if so, whether 30vernment propose SHAt MOTI LAl VORA: Hon. Speaker. to take steps to educate the people about the member wants to know the number of cancer through television and other media; patients suffering from cancer In India. Ac- and cording to the registration available at pres- ent, thers are 151akh patients suffering from (c) if so, the time by which Government cancer. There are adequate facilities avail- propose to launch thiS programme? able for their treatment. In so far as the question of educating them is concerned, as THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND alrlady stated by ma in part (b) of the an- FAMILY WELFARE AND MINISTER OF swer. they are baing educated at all levels CIVIL AVIATION (SHAI MOTI LAL VORA): through different media. But still , would like (a) Yas, Sir. to inform the hon. Member that- S Oral Anawe,. FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Oral Ana",.. 4 [Eng/ish] second w.ga, It expands. H the hone Mem- ber desires, I can give him a detailed de- Central Health Education Bureau has scription of the diseale. alrndy taken steps to educate people in the direction of early detection of cancer and its MR. SPEAKER: I will have to think prevention through radio and television. whether I have to give a ruling to the effect FUm. 0 cancer have also been prepared and that the Members of Parliament should stop exhibitions organised at Jalpur, Chandigarh chewing tobacco ... (Intsrruptions) and Madras. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: Smok.. [Translation) ing should also be prohibited ... (Intsrrup- tions) Hon. Speaker. these are the Media through which we are trying to prevent can- [English] car in the country. MR. SPEAKER: I would like to do that. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: Hon. Speaker, in spite of all that the hone Minister SHRI D.N. REDDY: Mr. Speaker, Sir. has said. the number of patients suffering as everybody knows that early cancer on from cancer in India is continuously increas- any part of the body will not produce any ing. Will the hone Ministertake more effective symptom at all. Will the Hon. Minister assure steps in this connection? For cancet treat- us that the only way to deal with these cases ment, the new electropathy treatment in is to provide cancer diagnostic units at every India, which is already prevalent in Ger- district headquarters? The only way is to many, has proved to be more effective. May immediately diagnose it at an early stage, I know whether Government propose to take only then you can cure the cancer. Unless some action in this direction? this is done, you cannot cure the cancer. Will the Hon. Minister assure us that all these SHRI MOTI LAL VORA: Hon. Speaker, diagnostic centers of cancer will be arranged a mention has been made about Germany in every district headquarter so that rural folk and how to save patients suffering from are protected from it? cancer in India. This question is very much under our consideration. We have 124 medical colleges. Out of these 124 colleges, [ Trans/ation] there is arrangement for radio therapy in 52 colleges. Besides this, there are ten Re- SHRI MOTI LAL VORA: Hon. Speaker. gional Cancer Research Centres in the I have already stated that we are going to country. The same arrangements 8xistthere provide such facilities at Primary Health also. We are trying to arrange for scrap Centres and at village level. I have already smear tast at Primary Health Centres and at stated that wa are trying to provide facilities the village lavel also, so that the people for treating cancer through Radio therapy could be educated about the factors leading and Co-bait therapy in the medical colleges to cancer and about the steps required to be and hospitals at district headquarters. In the taken to check this disease. Out of the total coming days our efforts will be to reach the canoer patients in the country. one ..third are villages panchayats so as to train workers afflicted with this disease due to chewing of who may bring patients suffering from can- tobacco. There are 10u.r stages of caner. At cer to hospitals at district head quarters and the first stage, the cancer is ordinary; at the help in carrying them to medical colleges. 5 Oral AnswelS PHALGUNA 6.1909 (SAKA) Oral Answer. 8 [English] the National Wastelands Development Board (NWDB). In a letter of resignation SHAI SOMNATH RATH: The Hon. received subsequently. Dr. Chowdhry men- Minister has stated that steps have been tioned that the Board was created as an taken to have the radio therapy or cobatt independent nodal agency to co-ordinate treatment in district headquarters. I would and formulate policies relating to wastelands like to know from the Hon. Minister whether development and that sufficient authority the Government is taking any steps to have has not been given to the Board to carry out a full-fledged treatment institute and madicat these tasks. The Government do.. not college at Berhampur, Ganjam district of accept this as being factually correct. Orissa. Hso, what steps have been taken? I woukJ also like to know whether the Orissa (c) The Government 8XpedS that with Government have already requested the the recent changes the eHorts to achieve the Central Government to make it a full-fledged objectives fQr which the NWDB was 8et up institution. will gain further momen~m.

SHAI MOTILAL VORA: As I have al- SHRI SHARAD OIGHE: From the an- ready stated, we are having ten regional swer it appears that there is a surprising co- cancer research and treatment centres. We incidence between the orders issued on are making all possible arrangements to 15th January 1988 replacing Dr. Kamls extend our research centres so that cancer Chowdhry by the Minister of State for Envi- can be ditected early cured and the cancer ronment and Forest as chairman of the patient can be treated properly. NWDB and her letter of resignation, be- cause the newspapers carried her interview Re.lgnation of Chairperson of the Na- regarding resignation and the reasons for tional Wasteland Development Board the resignation somewhere on 17th January 1988. Perhaps these have crossed each *42 SHAI SHARAD DIGHE: Will the other-the orders for replacement and her Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- resignation. ESTS be pleased to state: Apart from the fact which you have (a) whether the Chairperson of the mentioned about the resignation, viz., Dr. National Wasteland Development Board Chowdhry mentioned that the Board was recently resigned; created as an independent nodal agency 10 co-ordinate and formulate patiass relating to (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and wastelands development and that sufficient authority has not been given to the Board to (c) the steps Government propose to carry out these tasks, I would like to know take to rejuvenate and restore to productive whether it is a fact that the Chairman had use nearly 60 per cent of the country's total also mentioned that the Board was depend- land area which has tuned arid and barren? ent on the. Forest Department and the Revenue Department and as far. as the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Revenue Department was concerned it MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR· preferred to release degraded lands for ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (8) and (b). mining and quarrying rather than giving Orders were issued on 15.1.88 replacing Dr. them to the Board for improving them. (Mrs.) Karnla Chowdhry by Minister of State . for Environment & Forests as Chairman of Similarty when the Board pfeaded to 7 Oral Ans ..1S FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Oral Answers 8 Forest Department to lease out these lands in any case acceptable to the Department for fodder cultivation, that plaa was also not paid any attention. Therefore, by way of SHRISHARADDIGHE: In part (c)ofthe j frustration the Chairperson felt she cannot answer the Government has stated that ... pilot the Board to the end. I would like to Government expects that the recent know whether these reasons were given in changes in the efforts to achieve the objec- the resignation letter also? tives for which the NWDB was set-up will gain further momentum. I would like to know SHRl Z.R. ANSARI: Sir, h is true ttlat the what are the recent changes by which you so-called resignation letter alleges that expect that this NWDB will gain further enough powers had not been given to the momentum? National wastelands Development Board but this is not a fact. The Board was gjven the SHRI Z.R. ANSARI: As a matter of fact powers. Of course, the Board had to work the objectives for which this NWDB has been under the overall policy of the Government set-up have not changed. The fad is that we and the Board cannot go against the policy are just reviewing the whole process of decisions taken by the Government. There Wasteland Development Board. The pri- is also a policy decision of the Government mary purpose of the Wasteland Develop- that one-third of the total land-mass should ment Board was to create a people's move- be under forest cover. We are not having ment, to involve people more and more, to one-third of the total land-mass under forest plant trees for meeting the needs of the cover. We are trying to proceed towards that firewood, fuel and fodder so that the pres- direction. sure on the forest areas is released and forests may be conserved. We are trying our This IS also a policy decision that from best to minimise the use of wood for other 1980 the forests should not be taken as a purposes. The other day, my han. friend, the revenue earning source but the stress Railway Minister, was complaining that I am should be more on the conservation of for- just going for more and more increase in the ests to keep the ecological balance and to price of the sleeper only for the purpose just improve the ecology. These were the two to go in for some other substitute. (Interrup- policy decisions under which the Board had tions) ") work. The House is aware that how this 1980 Forest Conservation Act was an instru .. MR. SPEAKER: This is no discussion. ment to check the diversion of forest land for non-forest uses and if any further encroach- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ment in the name of industries and other MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI things is being done and land is diverted, I MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): I would like to am afraid, there will be no forests. There was inform my hon. colleague through you that honest difference of opinion between the the Railways are very very keen and very Chairperson of the NWDB but thiS was the sincere in their efforts to reduce the reliance essence of the Forest Conservation Act that on wooden sleepers. They are going down any project in which the forest land had to be very steeply. But the han. Minister'S raising diverted for any other purpose tha1 should the wooden sleeper prICes by 50 per cent get clearance from the Forest Department. does not help us. I am not worried from the That was the only constraint. These were the price point of view. What I am worried about only two policy decisions under which the is all my friends from all sections of the Board had to work. The Board wanted to go House from Assam and the North-East bring beyond those policy decisions. That was not an amount of pressure on me. The profit 9 OraIAnawelS PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) OtalAns... 10 margins having gone UP. their constituents reached up to 1.7 and odd minion hectarel Insist on me buying from them wooden per year. This year, because of the drought. sleepars which , don't want to do. I am our target was 1.9 mfllton hectares per year. requesting him not to raise the price. We thought because of the drought. we cannot reach that target and the target has AN HON. MEMBER: Is it a discussion? been reduced to 1.77 million hectares per year. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Ansari, you have taken all the time. Be short. [ Translation]

SHRI Z.R. ANSARI: In short. our stress SHRIMATI SHEILA KAUL: Mr. is forthe conservation of forests. The Waste- Speaker, Sir, through you I want to know land Development Board was meant to re- from the han. Minister why the.. lands lease the pressure on the forest areas. become arid and how can It be checked. II any reclamation work going on in this direc- MR. SPEAKER: I think, I have to ex- tion? plain. Han. Member. will you listen to me? SHRI Z.R. ANSARI: Sir, this work has I reminded the Members yesterday that substantiaJly been done under the Ministry we have decided that no more than two of Agriculture. There are many reasons of it. minutes should be taken for putting a supple- At some places there is excessive use of mentary question. That is applicable to the fertilizer while at soma other places there is Ministers also. I will not like them to take too 10 excessive use of water which increase much time. salinity and alkalinity. Like this there are a number of reasons and research in this SHAI C. MADHAV REDDI: Just now, regard is being done under the Ministry of the hon. Minister has said that the object of Agriculture. the Wasteland Development Board move- ment is to make it a people's movement. In SHRI ARVIND NETAM: When National 1985, before the Board was constituted, it Wasteland Board was sat UP. it was ex- was announced by the Government that five pected that it will work mainly for the poor million hectares of land would be brought people of our country. This was also the under fuelwood, etc. policy of the Government and the han. Min· ister also talked about people's involv~m.nt. May I know what is the progress? What Many hon. Members of Parliament had also is the track record of various State Govern- written a lettertothePrime Minister in which ments which are essentially the implement- it was stated that National Wasteland Board ing agencies. After all, the implementation is having an industrialist approach whereas has to be done by the States. according to Government's policy, it should have been utilised for the benefit of the poor. SHAI Z.R. ANSARI: This is true that the particularly tribals and schedule cute Prime Minister has announced. It was for people. As replied to by the Prime Minister that specific purpose that the Wasteland that the Government'S policy is to distrtbute Development Board had come to make it a the wasteland among the poor, is the Gov.. people's movement and to reach the target arnment committed to this policy or not? of five million hectares per year. There are many constraints because of which that tar- SHRI Z.R. ANSARI: It was the intention get was could not be reached. We have of the Wasteland Development Board that 11 Oral Ans..,. FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Oral AnSW8f'8 12 the wasteland. which does not come under THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Forest Area. may be given to the poor, MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT Scheduled Cast•• and Scheduled Tribes on (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) to (d). A ltat.- priorlly basi. in order to meet their require- ment is given below. ment of fuel, fodder and timber and thereby .... the pressure on forests also. STATEMENT

[English) (a) Yes, Sir.

equity Capital of Shipping Corporation (b) The Shipping Corporation of India of India Ltd. has submitted a proposal for increasing its paid up capital by Rs. 270 crores by way *43. SHRI YASHWf,NTRAO GADAKH of conversion into equity of the outstanding PATIL : loans advanced by erstwhile Shipping De- SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- v'llopment Fund Committee. The capital WARI: restructuring has been proposed by the SCI mainly on account of (I) adverse debt-equity Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT ratio due to a rapid growth in the gross be pleased to state; investment without a CX)mmen~ Jrate in- crease In the equity capital, resulting in high (8) whether there is any proposal to interest liability and thereby its inability to increase the ~uity capital of the Shipping service fully the loana takf'n for financing Corporation of India; acquisition of ships, (II) taking over certain losses of MLl on its merger with the SCI etc. (b) if so, the details thereof and the reasons therefor; (c) The details of loans advanced to SCI (c) the latest position of the outstanding so far, loans repaid by SCI outstanding loans loans due from the Corporation; and as on 31.12.87 and over due instalments of Principal and interest as on 31.12.87 are (d) the reasons for the non-payment? indicated below:

Loans Loans Outstanding Oyer-due instalments advanced repaid loans as on Principal Jaterest ImsJ to SCI so far bySGI 31.12.87 (1) (2) (3)

Rs.lcrores

867 421 446 130 63 193

(d) SCI has not been able to effect [ Translation] payment of the overdue amounts primarily due to a very small capital base in compari- SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH son with the large size and fleet of the PATIL: Mr. Speaker. Sir, it is given in the Company. The position has further aggra- reply that the corporation had submitted a vated due to severe recession in the interna- proposal of increasing its paid up capital by tionaJ shipping industry. Rs. 270 crores, owing to which this situation PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Oral An,.." 14 has arisen. They are unable to service fully wa had ordered for twelve Bui( Carrie,. at the loans taken for financing acquisit~n of the prices prevalent at that time, but aft., ships. In 80 far as the question of buying of that recession came in the shipping industry the ships is concerned, my information is and the Govemm8At thought to resort to that the shipping corporation had placed an commercial way. Then w. wrote to the Ko- order for buying ships from a firm of South raan Shipyard and asked them to reducath. Korea in which an expenditure of Rs. 270 prices. As this question is not covered by the crores in foreign exchange was to be in-'" main question, I am unable to give the fig- curred but we have come to know from the ures of the prices at present. But 1 wiUsay Korean company that ships had been sold to that we have been able to get the bill reduced Iran on lesser price than this and there has by crares of rupees. In this case we have been bungling of Rs. 40 erores in this trans- gained in stead of incurring any loss. Th. action. It is said that this amount was information about bungling received by the commission for the Corporation officials. I hone Member is wrong. We have saved want to know whether any enquiry has been crores of rupees of our country and we had ordered in this respect and what action has conveyed to them that if the priceS are not been taken against them? reduced, we will not purchase their ships. As Shipping industry was in recession, they SHRI RAJESH PILOT: It is a fact that reduced the prices and our order with them Shipping Corporation of India had submitted stood. a proposal for raising the equity. In 1961, when Shipping Corporation was set up, our [English] equity ratio was Rs. 23.47 erorss and Rs. 5.71 crores as loan from other sources. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI: I Today Shipping Corporation have 140 ships would like to know from the hone Minister whereas it was having only 20 ships at the whether it is a fact that by the end of the next initial stage and the equity of Rs. 23.47 financial year, the gross tonnage is expected crores has reached Rs. 70 crores and to be 5.7 million tonnes, which is less than through other loans and means we have the target fixed for the plan period. Thera Is reached Rs. 1900 crores. You can compare a shortfall in tonnage. How does the Govern- this equity ratio with equity ratio of any other ment propose to overcome this shortfall? undertaking of public sector. Today Ship- ping Corporation is dealing with such a Then, there are some payments to be subject in which the whole world is .facing made to the foraign shipyards. What is the recession and to sustain it, the Shipping total amount that has to be paid to the foreign Corporation had submitted the proposal to shipyard? Have the payments guaranteed raise the equny ratio because the Mughal by the now defunct Shipping Development lines was incurring loss. It has also affected Fund Committee to be made to the foreign the Shipping Corporation. After that, It ;s a shipyards? If not, the foreign banks are now fact that the Government issued guidelines. threatening to invoke the guarantee clause. In accordance with those guidelines some what steps do the Govemment propose to proposals received from the Ministry of In- take to run this Corporation profitably? dustry are under consideration. SHRI RAJESH PilOT: As far as the The second question the hone Member gross tonnage is concerned, it ;s a fact that asked was about the order for the ships from it has gone down~ The reason is that w. want Korea and he gave figures of Rs. 43 eror.l. tom modernize our fleet. There is no use of In this connection. I want to say that in reality having a high tonnag, which is Jess proflt- 15 Oral Answsrs FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Oral Answers 16 able commercially. Because of moderniza- The other thing which the-Hone Member tion, scrapping took place in the last two asked is about the Involvement of middle- years. The other reason is recession, as I men and some gain here and there. As I said have mentioned earlier. Because of that we ,repeatedly I the whole thing was completely want to see which sector requires how much reviewed-our requirement of the ships, their fleet. The tonnage has come down, but by profitabil~y. how much returns we are going the end of the 7th Plan, our plan is to regain to get on this investment-and after consider- the tennge, and maybe we exceed that. trig all these factors we approached the South Korean shipyard. We asked them if they could come down this much. It was a The second question related to the commercial market. They knew that if they guarantee given to some foreign companies cancel the order, they will suffer a loss. So, by the SDFC. Earlier, this was in my depart- they came down. We thought that it is better ment, but now the Government took a deci- to reduce the price and benefit the excheq- lion to shift it to the Finance Ministry. The uer. So, this was totally commercialised. subjed is with the Finance Ministry and, therefore, I cannot give the latest informa- Another thing which I could not reply tion. before is about strengthening the Shipping Corporation. The Shipping Corporation, even during the recession period, has been DR. CHINT A MOHAN: The Minister has doing efforts to maintain profitability. All over stated that he was able to save Rs. 43 crores the world the shipping industry is in reces- in the As. 270 crore deal with South Korea sion. We have been making profits. I can and I congratulate him on the floor "Of this quote the figures year-wise but I would like to House for saving this much foreign ex- inform the House that from 1977-80, we change. In the Hindustan Times of 20th of went in a loss. From 1980-82 we again made this month, it was stated that it was due to some profits. In 1982-83, we again went in a strict political vigilance that they were able to loss but from 1983 onwards we are making save this much. I would like to know what is profits and we are making money. SCI is now that strict political vigilance. They also said running in profit. that some middlemen and officials were involved. I want to know categorically who Fire Accident In Almer-Deihl fast are the mIddlemen and who are the officials Passenger Coach involved. What action do the Government propose to take against the corrupt officials? *44. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: SHRI RAJESH PILOT: I do not know which newspaper has said what. I do not (a) whether. the inquiry into the devas- thlnk, there was any question of political tating fire accident in a coach of the Ajmir vigilance. It was based on the commercial Delhi fast passenger on 29 November, 1987 view of the Shipping Corporation. It was resulting in the death of a large number of done in a commercial way by the SCI. But persons has since been completed; when you go and want to buy something, as an individual you want to bargain, saying, (b) if so, the findings thereof; and "Well this is a thing that I will buy for this much

price. I' We did it in a commercial way. There (c) the adion taken or proposed to be is no political thing involved in it. taken by Government thereon? f7 Oral AnswslS PHAlGUNA 6. 1909 (SAKA) OraiAnsMn 18 [ rr,ns/ation] vidims and by when will the inquiry be completed? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MA- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE HABIR PRASAD): (a) and (b). A statutory MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI inquiry has been conducted into this acci- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): Sir, the Commis- dent by the Commissioner of Railway sioner of Railway Safety has submitted the Safety, Western Circle working under the preliminary report and later when he wUI Mimistry of Civil Aviation. According to his submit the final report, the main reason provisional fin,dings, the fire in the coach behind this accident will become clear. As occurred due to unauthorised carriage of you have stated, h is true that inflammable inflammable substance. substances are carried in railway coaches and it is happening quite often, especially in (c) Special checks and educative pub- the rural areas. This tendency is particularly licity have been instituted against carriage of true of the rural areas and we are making inflammable articles by the travelling public efforts to check it. However, we are facing in the passenger and IU9gage compart- considerable difficulties in this regard be- ments. cause the number of passengers in these areas is very large. We will continue to make MR. SPEAKER: He has been made the efforts to check it and to ensure that these Railway Minister and that is why he i'3 going things do not happen. so fast. SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ All KHAN: SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: I Mr. Speaker, Sir, will the hon. Ministercrarify am thankful that our new Deputy Minister of whether after this incident this aspect is also Railways has replied. being examined as to whether any such rule already exists which prohibits carrying of As it h~s been stated in the reply that the inflammable materials and similar sub- Commissioner of Railway safety has con- stances in railways coaches and whether ducted an inquiry into this accident and after enquiry the person found responsible in according to his provisional findings, the fire this matter will be awarded due punishment? in the coach occurred due to unauthorised carriage of inflammable articles. I want to SHAI MAOHAVRAO SCJNDIA: The knowfrom the hen. Ministerthrough you, Sir, rules are there and efforts are being mad. to whether there was not any such rule prohib- enforce them and as I had just stated we will iting the carrying of inflammable materials in continue to make efforts in future also and if railway compartments? Is it not the respon- some employees of the Railways are found sibilrty of the R.P.F. present there to ensure guilty, action will be taken against them. that such substances are not carried? I have often seen it myself that petrol and SHAI VISHNU MODI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, diesel.. .. (Interruptions) .... I am speaking. let want to know from the hon. Minister me continue. Why are you getting annoyed? whether it is true that families of some of the accident victims have submitted representa- Sir, I have seAn petrol being carried in tions and, whether it is fact that the name of the railway compartments and it is done with one of the victims, Shri Ram Singh Gahlot. the connivance of the R.P.F. I want to know who belongs to Kishanganj and died in this as to how many deaths occurred and what accident, is miSSing from the list of dead amount was granted as compensation to the persons because the authorities enquiring FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Oral AnIW8lS 20 Into this accident had not included his name <8> whether Union Government are In th.lIst? Will the Govemment C9,"Siderthis aware that some inctdent of 'Sati' have oc- case sympathetically? curred after the enactment of centrallaglsla- tion; and SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: The hon. Member has informed me about it just (b) if so, the details thereof? now. I will certainly get an inquiry conducted into this matter. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: Mr. AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD Speaker, Sir. one of the main reasons of this DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF devastating accident in which such a large HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT number of deaths occurred is the carrying of (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) and inflammable materials and another and a (b). It was reported in the Press on the 12th more solid reason is the lack of internal of January, 1988 that a twenty eight year old communication in the train, that is. commu· woman had reportedly committed Sati in nication facilities between the guard and the Kheria Mishra Village in Lalitpur district in driver were not available and that is why the Uttar Pradesh on the 10th January, 1988. driver did not stop the train immediately when the accident occurred and the train The State Government of U.P., which had covered sufficient distance which re- had promptly initiated investigation into the sulted in an accident of such magnitude. Has matter, reported onth.14thJanuarythatthe the han. Minister of Railways considered this investigations made so far had revealed that aspect as well and is he going to take any the incident was not an ad of Sa1i. However. steps in this direction so that the communi- the criminal Investigation Department of the cation system of the Railways, rather the State Governmer't has started further inves- internal communication system of the trins tigation of the case, which is in progress. can be rectified? SHRI SURESH KURUP: I am not satis- SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINOIA: If the fied with the Minister's reply. There were hon. Member had paid attention to the reports in the Press 1hat this has actually speech which I delivered yesterday, he amounted to sati. This reply is only the would have known the we are making efforts reproduction of the official position of the to provide com munication facilities between U.Po Government. Since we are °all con- the guard and the driver but we have some cerned about this thing, I would like to know difficulties here. This ;s also a part of our whether the Central Government would in- modemisation programme. stitute an Inquiry directly and report to this House of the findings of the Inquiry? [Eng/ish] THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RE- Satllncldant SOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO): We do not have to -45 SHRI SURESH KURUP: reproduce either the press report or the SHRIMATI BIBHA GHOSH Investigation report. Further investigation btl GOSWAMI: the State Government is in progress. So let us se8 from the facts which have bean Will the minister of HUMAN RESOURCE brought out in the investigation. The investi- DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: gating authorities came to the conclusion 21 Oral AIIsweIs PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) that It cannot come under Sati, it could com. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA under or sufckte. This Is their first finding. but RAO: The Government has passed anAcrto they are not satisfied with this ftnding-I mean abolish Sati. What aation has Government they have not stopped the investigation or taken under that law' (Interruptions) terminated the investigation on this. They have given it to the CIO. and CID is the MR SPEAKER: Now next question. Mr authority. is the agency which goes into the Bhuria. motivations and other things behind the scenes. So, we would like to await the result [ Trans/ation] of the CID report. At the moment, it would not be fair to add anything more. Amount Utilised on National Hlghwa,.

SHRt SURESH KURUP: Despite the *46 SHRt DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: Central law and the campaign against Sati, Will the Ministerof SURFACE TRANSPORT it is most unfortunate that certain Influential be pleased to state: people are still glorifying Sati. Recently, an influential political leader from Tamil Nadu (a) the names of the States which have issued a statement that she actually in- fully utilised the amount allocated to them for tended to commit SatL I would like to know the development and maintenance of the (Interruptions) whether Government would National Highways during the Seventh Five take action against the person concerned. Year Plan period; and

( Int9"Uptions) (b) the names of those States whose performance has not been found 88tlsfac... SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: I do not tory? think the hone Member is serious about get- ting an answer. (Interruptions) [English]

SHRI SURESH KURUP: She made a THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE public statement. The statement appeared MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT in the Press. (SHRI P. NAMGYAl): (a) The StateslUnlon Territories of Andhra Pradesh, Arunachal Pradesh. Assam, Delhi, Goa, Gujarat. Hary- SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA: I ana, Himachal Pradesh, Karnataka. do not want to add to what Mr. Kurup says. Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, (Interruptions ) Why not reply to this ques- Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal have fully tion? My question is the same. If the political utilised the years of the Seventh plan period. leaders and influential Members of Parlia- ment make such statements .... (b) The StataslUnian T arritories of Bihar, Chandigarh. Jammu & Kashmir. Kar- MR SPEAKER: Nawat Ji, Saying and ala. Manipur. Meghataya, Nagaland,Oriasa. doing are completely different things. Pondicherry. Punjab and Tamil Nadu, how- ever, could n01 fully utilise the funds provided to them for this purpose.

SHRI SyeO SHAHABUDDIN: It [ Translation] amounts to glorification of Sati. (/nt.rrup- tions) SHRI allLEEP SINGH BHURIA: Mr.. 23 Oral Answ91S FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Oral Answ.. 24 Speaker. Sir. I would like to thank the hen. suppose a particular State has 3000 kma of Minister for giving a straightforward reply. I National Highway. The maintenance cost for would like to know from the hon. Minister as that State for that National Highway will be to what criteria on is adopted for allocating more. " another State has 1000 kms of a funds which are made available for the Na- National Highway, then their maintenance tional Highways and details of the amount cost for that National Highway will be less. allocated statewise? [ Translation] SHRI P. NAMGYAL: Mr. Speaker. Sir, the Central Government is responsible for SHAI DILEEP SINGH BHUAIA: The the maintenance and development of the Hon. Minister has not yet told about the national highways. Besides, the Central criterion. I want to know whether Central Govemment is also responsible for all the Government have enquired into the reasons Union Territories which do not have legisla- as to why they have not spent the amount. I tures at present. want to know that if they are unable to spend that amount, whether 1he same amount can So far as the question of allocation of be allocated to the other states which have funds is concerned that is done keeping in damaged roads? view the economic condition of the country and according to the portion of the roads [English] which fall in the State through which the roads pass. SHRI RAJESH PILOT: I think the Hon. member is asking for criteria for allocation of [English] fund. I have clearly stat~ for the mainte- nance of a National Highway. I have also SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: No, My mentioned about declaring a road as a Na- question is what is the percentage of alloca- tional Highway. As per the fund not utilised tion and what are the criteria for allocation? by each State, we have this problem from the very beginning. There are two factors in it. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (1) The task of the National Highway is MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT increasing day by day. Even the Working (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): I would like to add Group in the Seventh Plan recommended to what my colleague has already said. Rs. 3,300 crores for the requirement of There are a few conditions to be fulfilled for National Highways. H we really make upto-

declaring a National Highway. One is traffic date the requirement as per today I the Plan- on the road. Whether a particular road ning Commission could only allocate As. passes through so may States. There are 7- 891 crores, and the House will be happy to 8·9 clauses which we have to go through know that even in the third year-when we are before we declaro a particular road as a just finishing the third year-we have been National HIghway. If a particular road satis· able to spend As. 803 crores already against fies those clauses, then it is considered to be alloca~ion of As. 891 crores. As against the declared as a National Highway. As far as allocation of Rs. 891.75 crorss, we have allocation of fund for each State is oon- utilized Rs. 803 crores already. I am sure the earned. It is a big statement. I can lay it on the government will certainly kgep this sector Table of the House quoting how much fund under priority and carrion allocating what- has been allocated to each State and how ever is available with the government. As for much they have utilized it. (Interruptions) the States which have not utihsed the fund, Regarding criteria for allocation of fund, we have been writing to them. There is a 25 Oral An'MHI PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) OraJAnswent 28 monitoring system in the Department. Every Jabatpur. It comes from Varanui to Kan- three months, we get a retum from them. yakumari. There h.. been a demand for After six months, we are meeting with them. having aby-pass at Jabalpur for the last 5 But still some of the states have not been years. The money has been also allotted but able to keep up their commitment of spend- the Ministry has not given its administrative ing this money. when this meagre amount approval without which money cannot be which we can afford to give them. The Gov- either allotted or utilised. Will the hone Minis- ernment is considering to have a Na,ional ter be kind enough to say what target date h. Highways Authority so that we can monitor willgivefortha administrative approval of the them; we can conduct our work from the by-pass and by which date the approval to Centre and this important sector is not lag- National Highway No.3 will be given? ging behind as per the requirement of the nation. SHRI RAJESH PILOT: I have said very openly in the House that we are not in a MR. SPEAKER: Have you ever consid- position to give sufficient funds to the States. . ered that there are certain National High- I am not saying that we have given sufficient ways which have got high density of traffic funds and the States have not been utilising. and where daily even losses due to acci- Whatever little we could afford from the dents far exceed the cost of making 2-3 kms resources we have been giving. But the of road. Can't we have dual carriage way on worst part is that whatever Is given to the those roads so that it will save national States is not utilised by some State8. As I wealth and life of the people which is invalu- have mentioned, the requir'!_ment is As. able? 3300 crores and we got from the Planning Commission Rs. 891 crores. The ratio is SHRI RAJESH PILOT: On those sec- visible here. tors, even we have re~uested the private sector to come in. At the moment. where As for the particular by-pass which the there are heavy density traffic roads like hon. Member has pointed out, there is some -Delhi, Agra-Delhi and Calcutta. there delay in the Commijnication department we are already considering making more somewhere. I wrote to him only seven or roads because there are nearer. (Int9"Up- eight days back that this has been cfeared. tions) I have not quoted the whole country. After the estimate comes from the State we (Interruptions) But these sectors are being will taka it up. I think this is one of the positive considered to make double lanes where it is things that we have done. a single lane; where it is a double lane. to make it four lanes. [ Translation]

SHRt AJAY MUSHRAN: He has just SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: Mr. now mentioned that some of the States have Speaker, Sir, the responsibility for the main- not utilised the fund allocated to them. One tenance of roads is that of the State Govem- of the reasons may be that the fund allotted ments whereas amount is given by the is totally insufficient also. You give fund to Central Government. The soil and condi- soma of the States in a manner that they tions of Maharashtra are such that the roads cannot utilise It. Those States which can over there sink very soon. I want to ask from utilise more fund should be given more the hon. Minister as to why the allocation of funds. Then you have stated about the funds has been reduced for those ar... ? density of traffic on the National Highways. Due to this, I is gettirlg difficult to maintain National Highway No. 3 pa... through roadIln compariIon toolher State .. There II 27 Oral Ans ..11 FEBRUARY 25, 1988 OraJAnswetS 28 no linking of roads in the Stale of Gujarat but SHRI AAJESH PILOT: As I have men- In the Vidarbha region in Maharashtra par- tioned. out of As. 891 erar. W8 have spent ticuIarIy, there are 15 such districts where Rs. 803 crores. It Just shows the sincerity of roads sink. What are the norms for the main- the Government to thl, sector. For two years .,ance of these roads? What factors are we really cannot manage and some more kept In view while allocating funds for main- sources have to be found for this sector. But tenance? On what basis this allocation is this I have told you to show the priority we ar. done? giving to this sector. Whatever allocation we havs for five years, we have been permitted SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Mr. Speaker, by the Government to spend Rs. 803 erorss Sir, normallv every State Government sends in three years. Certainly, the Government us its estimates according to the length of have given priority. 1llat is why that permis- national highways passing through that sion has been given. States due to which so much amount is required by them for maintenance. Then the Asforthe inclusion inthe National High- Central Government allots funds to the ways, we have a very big financial constraint States according to its resources. The tech- because in the last yaar because of drought nical point raised by the hon. Member is also and because of floods, we felt that drought considered. Everything is kept in view as to and floods were being given priority. That is which particular thing is required more in a why we could not evan go to the Planning particular sector and accordingly the funds Commission for inclusion of some roads in .... allocated. the National Highways. These are pending with the Planning Commission and the (English] Government. There is a Transport Commit- tee which studies and decides on merits, SHAI E. AVYAPU REDDY: Just now where the traffic is more, the requirement is the hon. Minister has stated that funds allo- more, which will pass through some four to cated for the Seventh Plan, about Rs. 890 fiva States and, so on. After oonsidering emres have already been spent, or about these stress areas they recommend and ~ is Rs. 803 crores and odd were spent. Does for the Planning Commission to decide atter that mean that for the next two years you are the recommendation i, made. I fully appreci- not going to taka up any National Highway? ate the problem of Andhra Pradesh. I have He has also stated that the National High- gone myself to the coastal are8 and that ways ara being identified on the basis of sector is so badly needed of this particular merits and necessity and the amount of sanction. We are considering it. density of traffic, etc. If that is so, what are the NatIOnal Highways which you are going to MR. SPEAKER: Why cantt we usa that taka up in tha next two years fot implemen- money for relief work and constructing tation? Some of the most important National roads? Highways are not included. So far as Andhra Pradesh is concerned, to have a road along [ Translation] the coast from Tada to lcchhapuram the State has been pressing for its inclusion in SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA GAVIT: the Seventh Plan. Will the Government take Mr. Speaker, Sir, will the Nagpur Surat road, up this most important National Highway whose length is approximately 600 kilom- which will connect North and South, release etres and which connects the two States. be the traffic jam and traffic congestion which is declared a Nationa' "Ighway and If 10, by now prevailing from North to South? when? 29 Oral An,",. PHALGUNA 8, 1909 (SAKA) Oral AM.,. SO SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Mr. Speaker. iii) Makara ~, Sir, it is difficult to say anything about particu- lar road which hon. Member has mentioned. iv) Lady with bird. I can say anything about It only aftar getting It surveyed. v) Lady with Veena. SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: Mr. The exhibits mentioned at (I) to (tv) .r. Speaker, Sir, the situation in Bihar is very being retumed to Archaeological Survey of bad but even then, the Members of Bihar are India shortly. The art object mentioned at (v) not given any opportunity to ask anything above is required for yet another exhibition .•. 0.0.. (lnterruptions) .... abroad and its return will hence take some more time. [English] SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: Sir, I Non-Return of Konark Sculptures sent would like to know from the hon. Minister 88 for Festival of India to' when were these five art objects from Konark museum received and when were * 49 SHAI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: they displayed for the last time. What is the Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE reason that immediately after their last dis- DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: play, they were not returned back to Orissa? Why there has been dalay and when will they (a) whether five priceless 13th century be returned? lCulptures of the famous sun temple at Konark, which were sent for display at Fes- SHRI L. P. SHAH I: Some of the art tival of India have not been ratumed to the objects are till under display in U.S.S.R. Our Konark museum of Archaeological Survey aim is to send them together. So, four of the of India so far; art objects will be sent together as soon as we receive the articles from Russia in a (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and month or 90. About the fifth one, it is being displayed in another exhi8iUon. Therefore, it (c) the details of steps taken to bring will be sent later. back these priceless sculptures to the Kon- ark Museum? SHRI SRIBALLA V PANIGRAHI: Sir, there is some contradiction in the reply. In THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the replay. the han. Minister has said that DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND "The exhibits mentioned at (i) to (iv) above CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN are being returned to Archaeological Survey RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L. P. of India shortly·, But flOW the Minister lays SHAH'): (a) to (c). The following five art that they are still being displayed. There are objects had been obtained from the Ar- some news reports that some of the•• art chaeological Site Museum of Archaeologi- objects wefe misSing and some wef. dam- cal Survey of India at Konark by the National aged. I would like to know from the hon. Museum, New Deihl for display abroad; Minister whether it hal come to the nob of the Government and whether there is any I) Vyala, truth in the _'Iegation mentioned ;n the news reports about the miMing of the art obj8CtI II) Mithuna, and the damage of U. art.objeds. 31 Written AnswelS FEBRUARY 25.1988 Wrmen Answers 32

SHRI L. P. SHAHI: Sir. two of the art s. No. New Line Districts not yet objects were slightly damag'ed. They were linked. to be insured. A committee was constituted for linked (StatelU.T.) looking into the insurance claim and that has 1. Jammu Tawi· Udhampur (J & K) also been settled. Udhampur

2. Guna-Etawah Shivpuri (M.P.)

WRITIEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 3. Silchar-Jiribam Tamenglong (Manipur)

[ Trans/ation] 4. Amguri-Tuli Mokokehung (work held up (Nagaland) at present) Districts not served by Railways 5. Balipara- West Kameng *47. SHRI KEYUR SHUSHAN: Willthe Bhalukpong (Arunachal Pradesh) Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 6. Lalabazar- Aizawl (Mizoram) (8) the number of districts still not Bhairabi served by railways; [English]

(b) whether any time bound pro- Expenditure on Festival of India In gramme is proposed to be taken up to bring USSR and Soviet Festival In India these districts within the railway net work; and *48. DR. A.K. PATtL: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (e) if so, the details thereof? be pleased to state:

(a) the expenditure incurred on the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE recent Festival of India in the Soviet Union MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAI and Soviet Festival in India; and MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) to (e) . A State- ment is given below: (b) the resultant achievements?

THE MINISrER OF STATE IN THE STATEMENT DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (a) 78. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) The expenditure todate is esti- (b) and (c). Construction of New Lines is mated as follows :- not undertaken merely with a view to link a particular district but to meet' with specific Festival of India As. 8.50 erores transportation requirements. However, con- in Soviet Union (approx) struction is in progress for following rait lines. which will link some of the districts not so far USSR Festival Rs. 12.50 erores served by rail :- in India (approx) 33 Wrlttsn AnSWSIS PHAl.GUNA 6, 1009 (SAKA) WrlttenAn,w.n 34 (b) The Festival of India in USSR has number of schools affHiated to Indian PtbfJc created an awareness in the Soviet mind of Schools' Conference is 57 and ita number Indian cultural heritage along with its con- has not increased in the last few years. temporary development and achievements. The reciprocal Festival of usSR in Indta, will (b) to (d). School education is primarily reflect USSR's cultural and social ethos and looked after by the State Governments accomplishments as well as its scientific and concerned. In Delhi the schools are regu- technological progress. These Festivals lated by the provisions of the Delhi School have generated enormous enthusiasm and Education Act. 1973 which is proposed to be appreciation on a very large scale among further strengthened by suitable amend- both the peoples. ments. The concerned State agencies regu- late schools in their states suitably. When [ Translation] any specific case of malpractice is brought befora the educational authorities, remedial Control over Privately Managed Public action as provided under rules and regula- Schools tions is taken.

·50. SHAI BALWANT SINGH RA· Cancellation of Passenger Traina MOOWALIA: SH RI VIJAY N. PATIL: *51. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: SHRI R.P. DAS: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Will the Minister of RAilWA YS be pleased to state: (a) whether the number of so-called Public Schools in Delhi and other cities, (a) whether some passenger train. which are privately owned/managed, is were cancelled during the last two months; continuously increasing; (b) if so, the details thereof and the (b) whether Government are aware of reasons therefore; and oft-repeated complaints against these schools about various irregularities such as (c) the measur81 taken to avoid such charging excessive fees. payment of less cancellations and to restore the cancelled salaries and absence of other minimum trains? educational facilities;

(c) if so. whetht r Government propose THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE to bring forward any law to bring these MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAJ schools under Government control; and MADHAVRAO SCINOIA): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Due to seasonal drop in passenger traf- (d) if so. the details thereof? fic during the winter months, transportation of essential commodities and drought r.lief THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE materials, and other operational reasons, DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND about 15 pairs of trains have been temporar- CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN ily suspend9d. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAH I): (a) h is not clear what is intended by (c) Most of the cancelled trains will be -so-called Public Schools". However, the restored in the summer tima tab' •. 35 WrIIen An• .,. FEBRUARY 25, 1988 _en Answa 38 training of ...... 1 for Will. Polu- undertaken or propose to undertake any lion CIIlbaI special training programma to equip the medical and paramedical personnel with the *52. SHRI ANlL BASU: WiD the Minis- requisite knowledge and. training for treat- ter of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be ment and car. for leprosy patient; and pleased to ata18: (c) Hso, the details thereof? (8) whether there are enough trained ,personnel in the country to monitor praven- tIqn and control of water pollution; and THE MINISTER OF HEALTH & FAM- ILY WELFARE AND MINISTER OF CIVIL (b) if not, the measures being taken for AVIATION (SHRI MOTllAl VORA): (a) Out Imparting training to meet requirement of of 18572 leprosy workers both medical and trained personnel? para-medical, in position under NationaJ Leprosy Eradication Programme, 80 per THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cant have been trained in leprosy. 48 Lep- MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- rosy Training Centres run both in the Gov- ESTS (SHRI Z.R ANSARI): (8) and (b). ernment and non-Governmental Sector Adequate number of qualified sc;entHic and provide training to various categories of technioal personnal to monitor water pollu- leprosy workers 'like Medical Officers, Non- tion is available in the country. However, Medical Supervisors, Para-Medical Work- training in some aspects of advanced tech- ers, Health Educators, etc. niques, operation and maintenance of so- Isticated treatment plants, and handling of (b) and (c). The following measuras pecial equipment Is necessary. The Central have been taken to overcome the shortage rd for the Prevention and Control of of trained leprosy workers.

Water\ Pollution conducts and sponsors programmes for necessary training of the (i) The State Governments have been· pel'lOnnel of the Central and State Boards. requested to identify more leprosy Training Sol"f\t training facitlties abroad are also util- Centres for training of Non-Medical Supervi- lead IUndar bilateral and other assistance sors. programmes. (II) Existing facilities of the Leprosy Special Training to Medical and Para- Training Centres have recently baen aug- Medical P.raonn.1 for Leproay Treat· mented to Increase the Intake capacity. ment (iii) Five Central Training Centres and *53. SHRI JAGANNATH PATINAIK: three identified voluntary training centers Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY have been requested to increase the capac- WELFARE ~ pleased to state: ity of N.M.S. Training Courses.

(a) wheth'8~\Gov.mm8nt are aware that (iv) States have been requested not to a large percentage of the medical and para- transfer the trained Medical Officers to other medical personnel in the country do not programmes. pouttss requisite knowledge and training In regard to the treatment and ca;. of leprosy; (v) The course curriculum has been revised and duration of various training (b) if so, whether Government have COUI'MS hal been reduced. 37 WIllen An.... PHALGUNA6,1109(SAKA) ~An"" 38 ( r,.".,.,.",] the COUnby. SimHarfy. the Central Councilor Research in Homeopathy is engaged In FIe... rch Instltutea under Ayurvedlc research work in Homoeopathy system of and Homoeopathlc System of Medicine m8dicina. 23 R_arch Institutes In. Ayur- veda and 18 in Homeopathy und. these *54. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Councils are engaged in research on veri- Will the Minister of HEALl1i AND FAMILV oua diseases. Details of the Institut88 and WELFARE be pleased to state: the diseases on which ,esearch work is being oonducted are given below. (a) the number of Research Institutes working under the Ayurvedic and Ho- (b) A grant-In-aid Unit of Central Coun- moeopathic systems of medicine in the cil for research in Ayurveda & Siddha. Amla country and the names of the diseases on Cancer Research Centre. Trichur has taken which research work is being carried on by up the study of cancer. Among other medi- them; and cines the effect of Aohitka, Varuna and Ksaras of certain drug. are being studied for (b) the details of the progress made by evaluating their antl-cancar potentialities. A the above Institutes in the direction of finding detailed study covering long period is necel- a cure for cancer? sary to draw any conctusion. At present the status is of extremely preliminary nature. THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE AND MINISTER OF Two Regional Research Institute. at CIVil AVIATION (SHRI MOTILAL VORA): Bombay and under the Central (8) and (b). A statement giving the informa- Council for Research in Homeopathy are tion is given below. engaged in treatment of cancer. Even though mostly very advanced cases of can- cer come for treatment in these institute ••, a STATEMENT certain clinical improvement has been ob- served in response to the treatment given. (a) The Central Council for Research in However, here again the study is in its very Ayurveda and Siddha is conducting re- preliminary stage and It would take a long search in Ayurveda system of medicine in period to draw any conclusions.

DETAILS OF INSTITUTES UNDER CENTRAL COUNCIL FOR RESEARCH IN AYUR· VEDA AND SIDDHA AND THE DISEASES IN WHICH RESEARCH IS BEING CON- DUCTED.

Nams of the Clinical Diseases being Studied Scheme

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1. Central Research Amavata. Amlapitta Parvahka. Institute (Ay.) Delhi Atura, Grahani, Yakrtt daluder Tamak awua. Kitbha, Sweta pradara, Raleta pradara A1rigdara Yonl vyapada. Apaemara, Mad- hum.ha, Mutr, krlchha. Vishama 39 WrlIten Answ.,. FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 40

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jwara, Pakshavadha. Gridhrasi, Saisaw v88yavata, Raktachap, Vranan

2. Central Research Amavata, Amtapitts. Parinamsula, Institute (Ay.), Grahni roga. Tamak swasa. Swata Bhubaneshwar pradara, Pakshavadha. Gridhrasi

3. Indian rnstltute of Amavata, Kriml roga, Tamak swasa, Kayachikitsa, Patiala Arsh. Kastartava. Rakta pradaral Asrigdara, Madhumeha. Vishama jawara, (Malaria). Vishama Jawara (Symptomatic cases), Pakshavadha, Raktachap

4. Indian Institute of Pandu raga, Tamak swasa, Pam a, Panchkarma. Cheruthurthy Switra. Vicharchika, Khanja and Pangu. Saisaveeyavata

5. Regional Research Amavata, Sandhigatavata, Atisara" Institute (Ay.), Apasmara, Madhumeha Gridhrasi Calcutta.

6. Regional Research Institute Amavata, Krimi roga. Tamak swasa, (Ay.), Patna Mutra Krichha, Slipada

7. Regional Research Pravahika. Krimi roga. Kamala. Institute (Ay.), Tamak Swasa, Raktachap

8. Regional Research Amavata, Sandhigatavata, Grahni Institute (Ay.), Gwaliar raga. Tamak swasa, Sweta pradara, Vishama jawars, Abhishyandha

9. Regional Research Krimi raga, Vishama jawara Institute (Ay.). (Malaria). Vishama jawara Jaipur (Symptomatic cases), Saisaveeyavata

10. Regional Research Amav~ta, Amlapitta, Tamak Swasa, Institute (Ay.). Twalt rQga, Swat Pradara. Vishama Junagarh jawara (Malaria)

11. Regional Research Atisara. Kitibhq, Vicharchika Institute (Ay.). Trivandrum 41 Written AnSW913 PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written An,,.,, 42

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12. Regional Research Centre Amavata, Parinamasula, Krimi roga, (Ay.), Itanagar Tamak SW8sa. Vicharchika Swat. pradara

13. Regional Research Pravahika. Twak roga, Voni Centre (Ay.), Gangtok vyapada, Vishama jawara (Symptomatic cases)

14. Regional Research Amlapitta, Kril1ll roga, Kamala, Centre (Ay.), Mandi Medo roga. Vishama jawara (Symptomatic cases), Raktachap

15. Regional Research Amavata, Sandhig-atavata, Centre (Ay.), Jammu Vishama jawara (Malaria)

16. Regional Research Switra, Vishama jawara (Sympto- Centre (Ay.), Hastinapur matic cases), Pothaki

17. Regional Research Krimi raga. Slipda. Vishama Centre (Ay.), Nagpur jawara (Malaria)

18. Regional Research Tamak Swasa. Dadru Centre (Ay.). Vijayawada

19. Regional Research Pratishyaya Centre (Ay.), Bangalore

20. Dr. A. Lakshmipati Vishama jawara (Malaria) Research Centre for Ayurveda, Madras

21. Ayurvedic Research Unit, Unmada. Lakshana samuchhya of Bangalore unmada

22. Clinicl Research Unit, Parinamasula

23. Clinical Research Unit Parinamasula, Giardiasic and (Ay.), Kottakal E.H. Madnumeha 43 Written An.... FEBRUARY 25, 1988 WiItM AnsMn 44 DElAILS OF INSTITUTES UNDER CENTRAL COUNCIL FOR RESEARCH IN HO- MOEOPATHY AND THE DISEASES IN WHICH RESEARCH IS BEING CONDUCTED s. Name of InstitutesIUnits Assig"",.", No.

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1. Central Research Institute 1. Epilepsy Sachivothamapuram, 2. Mental diseases Kottayam-886532. 3. Bronchial asthma 4. Diabetes Mellitus

2. Regional Research 1. Bronchial Asthma Institute, Bombay 2. Allergic conjunctivities Homoeopathic Medical 3. Malignant diseas •• College & Hospital, Irla 4. Clinical proving of Naka, Ville Parle, Tubercunnum Bombay-4000SS.

3. Regional Research 1. Ostao-arthrltis Institute, 14129. 2. Bronchial asthma Upstairs, 3. Filariasis Gudivada-S21301.

4. Regional Research 1. Skin disord.rs Institute, N.H. Medical 2. Cervicalerosion+Cervicitis College & Hospital 3. Diabetes Mellitus B-Block, Defence Colony, 4. Bronchial Asthma New Deihl. 5. Malignant diseases

5. Clinical Research Unit, 1. Tonsillitis 61430, Model Town, 2. Urticaria 8ahadurgarh 3. Helminthiasis

6. Clinical Research Unit, 1. Osteo-arthritis H. No. 31, C.R.P. Ma in 2. Skin disorders Road, 8alragarh Market, 3. Amoebiasis Bhopal. 4. Helminthiasis

7. Clinical Research Unit, 1. Amoebiasis Kahilipara, 2. Helminthiasis Gawahati-781019.

8. Clinical Research Unit, 1. Helminthiasis Rajasthan Homoeopathic 2. Malaria Medical College & Hospital 3. Bronchial uthma Station Road, Jaipur 4. Renal CalcuH (Rajasthan)-302006 5. Poliomy.lltil PHAlGUNA 8. 1808 (SAKA)

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9. Clinical Research Unit, 1. Ost8C)oarthrllis Kishore Colony, Plot No. 2. ·Eczema 1, Bhupindra Road, 3. Bronchial IIlhma Near Phathak No. 22. 4. Sport-condlion ariMn from Patiala-147001.

10. Clinical Research Unit. 1. Malaria M.B. 31, Middle Point. 2. Dysentery Mahathma Gandhi Road, Port-Blair-744010.

11. Clinical Research Unit, Near 1. Filaria Gundicha Temple, 2. Malaria Puri-752002.

12. Clinical Research Unit, Flat 1. Tonsillitis No.5, Nitya Niketan, 2. Sinusitis Shimla-171 002. 3. Helminthiasis 4. Bronchial uthma

13. Clinical Research Unit, 1. Vitiligo (Disease oriented) C.D.P. College of Homoeopathic 2. Vitiligo (Drug oriented) Medicine, Near: Anand Mangal 3. Helminthiasis Society, Surat-395001.

14. Clinical Research Unit. 1. Filariasis 68-B, Ashok Nagar 2. Gastro-enteritis Tirupati .. S17501. 3. Amoebiasis 4. Vitiligo (Drug oriented)

15. Clinical Research Unit, 1. Bronchial a,thma Ashwin; Nursing Home, 2. Rheumatism Kalsanka. Udupi-576101.

16. Clinical Research Unit, 1. Tonsillitis . Sastrl Nagar. Madras-20. 2. Sinusitis 3. Cervicitis & Cervical.erosion 4. Rheumatoid arthritis

17. Clinical Research Unit, 1. To study the efficacy of Surgical Research Laboratory Homoeopathic drug Pulsa- Banaraa Hindu University, titla (in 200 P) in correctJng Varanaai-221005 the malposition. of human foetus. 47 Writtsn Answers FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Written Answers 48

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2. To study the efficacy of Homoeopathic drug Auram mur natronatum 3x (trit) in uterine fibroids.

3. To study the efficacy of Homoeopathic drug Ficus religiosa (mother tincture form) in menorrhagia.

4. To study the efficacy of Homoeopathic drug Fel tauri 2x or 3x (trh) in Clinical cases of gall stones.

18. Clinical Research Unit (T), 1. Sickle-cell anaemia. Plot No. 90 (p). Professor Colony. P.O. Budharaja, Sambalpur.

[English] STATEMENT

Performance of the Board on Water (a) Priorto be constitution of the Central Pollution Board for Prevention and Control of Water Pollution in September, 1974, there was no *55. SHRI AJOY BISWAS: Will the systematic mon~orjng of water quality. The Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- Central Board defined water quality criteria ESTS be pleased to state: for various uses and completed classifica- tion and zoning of all the 14 major river (a) the degree of water pollution prior to basins during the Sixth Plan period. The the constitution of the Central Board for Central Board in collaboration with the con- Prevention and Control of Water Pollution cerned State Boards, prepared inventorias (CBPCWP) and the degree of water pollu- on the status of water supply and wasta tion at present; water collection, treatment and disposal in Class I and Class II cities and towns in the (b) whether the performance of this country and of all major and medium water Board has been evaluated; and polluting industries.

(c) if so, .the outcome thereof? A network of water quality monitoring stations was established. The number of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE such stations increased from 24 in 1980 to MINISRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FO 170 in 1987. Tha data collected at these RESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) to (c). A stations do not indic.te any clear trend of statement is given below. increase or decrease of water pollution. 49 Written An,WtlfS PHAlGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Writ." Ans.,. 50

(b) The performance of the Central Board was evaluated in 1987. While the (c) As a result of the reorganisation the points of achievements listed in part (a) following staps have been approved.

I above were noted, the following main defi- ciencies were. noticed: (i) The objectives of the Board have been clearly delineated.

(i) The actions to meet short-term (ii) Targets have been fixed on pri- and long-term objectives both at mary and secondary objectives. the Central and State Boards levels, were oriented more to (jjj) The organisation has been re- poUution assessment ~ nd less structured by regrouping func- towards regulatory aspects of tions. pollution control. (iv) Additional scientific staff has (ii) The targets and time-frame for been sanctioned. control of pollution at sources were not commensurate with the (v) Six zonal offices of the Board are priority required to be accorded being set up. for this purpose. (vi) Action Plans for setting up an (iii) The emission standards evolved adequate network of wat~! qual- were more based on the cost of ity monitoring stations, river treatment which industries basin studies and coastal moni- would be able to bear rather than toring stations have been drawn on the minimum requirements up and Implementation has for human health. commenced.

(iv) The implementation and en- [ Translation] forcement of standards for differ- ent categories of industries has Afforestation of Aravalll Rango8 been rather slow. *56. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI (v) The Central Board did not spell SHAKTAWAT: Will the Minister of ENVI- out the priorities for various func- RONMENT AND FORESTS be pleased to tions. state:

(vi) The Central Board had certain (a) whetber Government of Rajasthan basic constraints such as. pau- had forwarded a scheme for Rs. 9.S cror. to city of funds. inadequate trained Union Government for the afforestation of

manpower t lack of proper train- Aravalli Hills; ing facilities, inadequate fabora~ tory facilities. (b) whether the scheme has been (vii) The role of the Central Board in turned down; if so, the reasons therefor; and taking legal action against de- faulters was not commensurate (c) whether Government propose to with the total work involved. 'reconsider the scheme? 51 Witten AnI..,. FEBRUARY 25. 1988· Wrlt.n Annws 52 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINES (SHRI M.L. FOTEDAR): (a) to (c). A MINSTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR.. statement is given betow • ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (8) No, Sir. STATEMENT (b) and (c). Question does not arise. (a) to (c). Hindustan Copper Limited Setting up • university for study of (Hel) is the sole indigenous primary pro- Indian culture at Guruvayoor (Karala) ducer of copper. The telling prices of copper in the country depend on the international ·57. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the prices and the prevailing import duties and Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL- are fixed every month. When there was a OPMENT be pleased to state: spurt in the international prices, the import duties were reduced. Consequent on this (a) whether there is any proposal to set reduction of import duty on 30.12. 1987 from up a University at Guruvayoor, KEnala for the 140% ad valorem to 950/0 ad valorem, the study of Indian culture, arts and literature; selling price of copper was fixed at Rs. and 75,000/- per tonne of wire bar for January, 1988 against As. 80,000/- per tonne fixed in (b) if so, when it is likely to start function- December, 1987. At this price HCL makes a ing? profit on its operations ..

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The Company has taken various meas- DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND ures to control costs of production and con- CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN tain losses. Against a loss of As. 27.71 RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHAI L.P. crores during 1985-86, the provisional re- SHAHI): (a) No such proposal is under con- sults for 1986-87 indicate a loss of Rs. 8.87 sideration of the Central Government. crores. These figures exclude interest on Govt. loan. The position is expected to fur- (b) Does not arise. ther improve during 1987-88.

Losus Incurred by Hlndustan Copper Implementation of Agreement with Ltd. Unlve'8lty Teachars

-58. SHAI V. SREENIVASA PAASAD: *59. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: pleased to state: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (a) whether the Hindustan Copper DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Limited has made steady efforts to contain the losses suffered by it earlier; (a) whether the agreement reached between Govarnment and the University (b) whether the recently announced and College teachers on September 4, 1987 reduced prices of copper have increased its has not been implemented as yet; operational losses further; and (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (c) If so, the details thereof? (c) the time by which it is likely to be THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND implemented? 53 Wtltten Ana..,. PHAlGUNA 6. 1909 (SAKA)

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EOUCATION AND ranee of a similar mishap In the same Station CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN area? RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) to (c). The specific commit- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ments made by the Central Government MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI were oommunicated to all the State Govern- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (8) to (c). A state- ments through a D.O. fetter dated 7.9.1987. ment is given below. The modified scheme has been imple- mented by the Central Universities. The STATEMENT question of institution of a selection grade for lecturers, which was left for further consulta- (a) Yes, Sir. The first accident took tion has since been considered. The recom- place at Sambhu Station at about d.07 hrs. mendations of the UGC to institute a selec- on 16.12.87 and the other between Sambhu tion grade equivalent to that of a Reader and Rajpura statiolls at 9.47 hrs on namely, Rs. 3700-5700, is in the process of 18.12.87. finalisation. There-after the Government proposes to communicate a revised scheme (b) Yes, Sir. incorporating all the modifications. (c) According to the provisional findings Train accidents at Shambhu Station on of the Commissioner of Railway Safety, Northern Railway Northern Circle, working under the Ministry of Civil Aviation, who conducted the statu- -60. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: tory inquiry into the first accident, the colli- SHRI UlTAM RATHOD: sion occurred due to tmproper taking off of the Down despatch signal of the Station. Will the Ministerof RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (d) Ex-gratia payment at the rate of Rs. 5.000/-to the next of kin of the identified (a) whether there was a serious acci- dead, Rs. 2.000\- each to the grievously dent at Shambhu Station (Northern Railway) injured and Rs. 250\· each to those with in December, 1987 due to collision between minor injuries was made immediately after a passenger train and a good train, followed the accident. Campen,atian will be awarded by another similar accident within 48 hours by the Ad-hoc Claims Commissioner being at the same station due to colhsjon between appointed for the purpose. a passenger train and a goods train; (e) The following safety measures are (b) whether the causes of the first taken to prevent accidents of this nature: accident were enquired into;

(c) if so, the details thereof; i) A special drive was launched for counselling of Signal Maintain- (d) the amount of compensation and ers, driver. and station staff; relief provided to the families of the de- ceased and to the persons injured; and ii) ambush checks to ensure that the drivers correctly observe (e) the precautions which ware taken signals and follow speed restric· after the first accident to prevent tha recur- tions in the automatic lignaBing 55 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Written AnswetJ 56

territory; FARE be pleased,to atate:

iii) foot·plate inspections both by (a) whether there are any guidelines for supervisors and officers have the transfer of medical officers who have been intensified. been working in C.G.H.S. dispensaries for more than 5 years; and Marine Park Project on Malwan Coast (b) if so. the details thereof? 421. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE FORESTS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) whetherthe 'Marine Park Project' on (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. A copy of the guidelines the Malwan coast of the Sindhudurg district is given below. of Maharashtra has already been cleared by Union Government; STATEMENT

(b) if so, whether there are any prob- 1. In dispensaries located in certain lems to be sorted out between Union Gov- V.I.P. areas, Medical Officers and other staff ernment and the Maharashtra State regard- with adequate experience should only be ing the finances needed for the Marine Park posted. Project; 2. In C.G.H.S. Hospital (including (c) if so, what are the problems encoun- C.G.H.S. Wings of Central Government tered; and Hospitals only Medical Officers with Post Graduate Qualification and experience (d) how will those problems be sorted should be posted. out and how the work of the Project will be undertaken expeditiously? 3. In places where C.G.H.S. Hospitals and dispensaries are located in the same THE MINiSTER OF STATE OF THE premises and are headed by a Senior Medi- MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- cal Officer or C.M.C .• they should be bifur- ESTS (SHRI Z.A. ANSARI): (a) Government cated so that the Hospital is headed by an of Maharashtra have declared a marine officer of the rank of C. M.D. separately and sanctuary on the Malwan coast. The clear- the display IS put under the charge of a ance of the Union Government is not re- S.M.O. separately e.g. Rajpur Road and quired. Kingsway Camp.

(b) to (d). The Government of Mahar- 4. Every C.G.H.S. Polyclinic should be ashtra have not sent a proposal seeking headed by an Officer of the rank of C.M.O. financial support for the Marine Sanctuary to Government of India. 5. Homoeopathic Stores and Unanl Stores should have separate Incharges so Guidelines for Transfer of C.G.H.S. that they do not hav~ dual function of looking Medical Officers after the Stores and dispensary.

422. SHRI T. BALA GOUO: Will the 6. A.C.M.O. With suitable experience Minister of HEALTH AND FAMilY WEL- should be posted to Head each Maternity 57 Written AnswelS PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 58

Hospital. same has been prepared; H so, the main features thereof including the estimate, of • 7. There should be a separate incharge the plan; ~, th~ rank of S.M.O. for each Maternity Centre. This officer 'should have sujtable (c) whether extension of the subway to qualification and experience and a Lady the new bus stand and development of the doctor should be preferred for this post. new bus stand which ;s in the area of rail- ways are a part of this plan; and 8. Only those Medical Officers/staff who have received special training in man- (d) when the work on this plan Is likely aging emergency and accidents of unusual to start? nature and are specifically selected for this purpose should only be posted to the Ambu- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE lance Services for V.V.I.Ps. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. 9. Regarding the postingllransfer of Medical Officers and other staff in CGHS (b) A comprehensive scheme for Khar- dispensaries located at Faridabad, Ghazia- agpur model station Is under finalisation. bad and Gurgaon and any other peripheral The main features of this proposal are given town, onfy those officers residing in or in the Statement. around these towns should be transferredl posted as far as feasible. (c) No. Sir.

10. A Medical Officer who has already (d) A beginning has already been made put in 4 years of service or is going to in the current year. From next year onwards. complete 5 years within a month or so should major works are proposed to be taken up. be transferred to another dispensary/unitsl officelFirst Aid Post etc. in each zone/city. STATEMENT

11. AU Officers (other then Medical Main features of the model station Officers) and staff who have already put in 4 scheme at Kharagpur years of service or are going to complete 4 years of service within a month or so should 1. A new booking office on the be transferred to another dispensarylunit! southern side of the station with office\FirstAid post etc. in ~ach zone~ity. retiring rooms and dormitory. etc., on the first floor. Development of Kharagpur Railway Station a. a model Railway Station 2. A new booking office on the northern side. 423. SHRI NARA VAN CHOUBEV: Will the Minister of .RAILWAYS be pleased to 3. Extension of the existing sub- state: wayan the southern side to the island platformss 5 & 6. (a) whether Kharagpur Railway Station (S.E. Railways) is proposed to be developed 4. Widening of the existing foot as a model railway station; over-bridge between platforms.

(b) If so. whether a blue print for the S. A new Parcel Office on the 59 Written AnswelS FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Wrlttsn Answers 60 southern side with a sub-way 1. Shri Pardeep Chaliha connection to the existing Parcel Office on the island platform. 2. Shri M. Appa Rao

6. Additional platform cover. 3. Shri Kemineni Eswara Rao

7. Improvement to the circulating 4. Shri Inderjit Namchoom area. S. Shri Chandeshwar Parsad 8. Additional waiting accommoda· tion. 6. Shri Ajmer Singh

The above works are estimated to cost 7. Shri R.S. Bhola about Rs. 1.43 crores. Besides this. a base kitchen has been provided in this station. 8. Shri Bramanand Sangonkar

Sport.persons Invited for Republic Day 9. Shri Anshuman Gaikwad Rally 10. Shri Rajinder Singh 424. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE· 11. Shri Charanjit Singh VELOPMENT be pleased to state: 12. Shri K.S. Sethi (a) the names of the sportspersons who were requested to participate in the Republic 13. Shri Sandhu Patil Day rally; 14. Dr. P.M. Joseph (b) the names of the sportspersons who expressed their inability to attend; and 15. Shri Sankar Laxman

(c) the names of the sportspersons who 16. Shri G. Perumal did not panicipate in the rally. despite having agreed to participate? 17. Shri R.K. Madhuryyajit Singh

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 18. Shri D.W. Dunn DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN & CHILD 19. Shri Lalruaota Sallc DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT 20 Ahei T. Oa (SHRlMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) to (c). A statement is given below: 21. Shri Nanda Khushna Das

22. Mrs. Rajbir Kaur STATEMENT 23. Shri Gopal Saini (a) Names of sportspersons invited to participate in the Republic Day Parade, 24. Shri Topden Pins 1988 are given below: 61 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 62

25. Shridharan 49. Shri Chandra Shekhar

26. Shri B. S. Nandi 50. Shri Venkatraghayan

27. Shri Vijay Singh Chowhan 51. Shri Parkash Padukone

28. Shri S. Manna 52. Shri Chuni Goswami

29.Shri M.P. 53. Shri Taranath Shenoy Muthokoya 54.Shri 30. Shri Suresh Chandra Jain Adille Sumariwalla

31. Shri R. Pascal 55. Shri Balblr Singh(Sr)

32. Mr. Luis G. Machhado 56. Shri Geet Sethi

33. Shri K. Srikant 57. Shri Vishwanathan Anand

34. Shri P.K. Banerjee (b) Names of sportspersons who ex- pressed their Inability to attend the Republic 35. Shri Sunil Gavaskar Day Parade are:

36. MIss. Shiny Abraham 1. Km. P.T. Usha

37. Miss P.T. Usha 2. Shri Kapil Dey

38. Shri Ramanathan Krishnan 3. Shri Geet Sethi

39. Shri Ramesh Krishnan 4. Shri Vishwanathan Anand

40. Nawab NAK Pataudi 5. Shri R. Pascal

41. Shri Kapil Dey 6. Mrs. Rajbir Kaur

42. Shri Milkha Singh 7. Shri Balbir Singh (Sr)

43. Shri Jamail Singh (c) There is only one such case of Shri Parkash Padukone who had earlier con- 44. Mrs. Nirupama Mankad firmed his participation but regretted at the last moment due to his sudden illness. 45. Shri Michael Ferriera

46. Shri Babir Singh(Jr) Modem Proce.. for Steel Making

47. Shri Mervin Fernandes 425. SHRI PARAS RAM BHARDWAJ: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be 48. Shri Parsanna pleased to atate: 63 Wrhten AnSwelS FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answsrs 64

(a) whether It is a fact that country is ever, are yet to be worked out. lagging behind in adopting energy.. efficient Oxygen process of Steel making; Stape to ban use of Polyurethane Foam

(b) whether Government have consid- 427. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will the ered the possibility of setting up modernisa- Minister of HEAL TIt AND FAMILY WEL~ tion schools at Bhilai. Battard and Tata Iron FARE be pleased to atate: and Steel Company; and (a) whether Govarnment are aware that (c) if so. the details in this regard? the polyurethane foam used as household cushioning material in furrr-iture and mat- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tresses has been found to be toxic and is DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- wrought with severa health hazards; TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHAI YO- GENORA MAKWANA): (a) No. Sir. In fad (b) whether its use has been banned in India was one of the first few countries to some of the Western countries but it contin- have adopted basic oxygen steel making in ues to enjoy a boom in India and the raw the late 50s at Rourkela. It was followed by materials for making polyurethane are im- adoption of this process at Bokaro, Shilai ported at present; and recently at TISCO, Jamshedpur. It is planned to phase out Open Hearth Furnace (c) whether these are highly toxic ana operation in SAIL during the 90s. belong to the same class as methyl isocynate (MIC) which was responsible for (b) and (c). No, Sir. the deaths in Bhopal;

Archaeological Survey of India Office In (d) which are the mu~inationals trading Kerals supplying polyurethane raw materiats to India; and 426. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the Min- ister of Human Resource Development be (c) what steps Government propose to pleased to state: check and even ban the use of these hazard- ous furniture foams? (a) whether there is any proposal for opening an office of the Archaeological THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Survey of India in Kerala; and MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMllV WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (b) if so, the details thereof? (a) Polyurethane foam used as cushioning material in furniture and mattresses per 58 is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE not toxic. DEPARTMENTS OF EOUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (b) The usa of polyurethane foam has RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI LP. not been banned in the Western countries. SHAHI): (a) and (b). One of the recommen- dations of the Expert Group on Archaeology (c) Polyurethane foam is made from is to increase the number of Circle to 18. This Polyols and MDI and TOI and these are not calls for opening of two new Circles, and it as toxic as MIC even though all the three has been proposed that one of thes. two belong to the same class, but the possibility should be in Kerata. The full details, how~ of toxic mission cannac be ruled out if foam is 65 Written AnswetS PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) ignited in absence of abundant oxygen. FAMIL VWELFARE be pleased to state:

(d) MIs BASF, lei are supplying Poly- (8) whether homeopathic shampoos urethane raw materials to India. are manufadured in the country and are standardised; (e) There appears to be no need at present to ban the use of Polyurethene foam (b) the number of samples lifted during for furniture. the last two years; and

Dutch Team Visit to India (c) the reaction of Government thereto?

428. CH. RAM PRAKASH: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY ESTS be pleased to state: WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE):(a) to (c). The requisite infor .. (a) whether Dutch team on environ- mation is being collected from the different ment visited India during January, 1988; licensing authorities and the same will be laid on the Table of the House. (b) the main objective of their visit; and Production Performance of Gold Mines (c) the main features of the discussion held with the visiting delegation and the 430. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: Will outcome thereof? the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE pleased to state: MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- ESTS (SHAI Z.A. ANSARI):(a) to (c) . A (a) the production performance of each Dutch team led by the Minister for Develop- gold mine in the country in 1986-87; ment Cooperation, Government of Nether- lands had visited India in January, 1988 to (b) whether Government have made discuss areas of mutual cooperation be- efforts to increase the production of some tween the two countries. During this visrt, gold mines during 1987-88; discussions were held between the Minister for Environment and Forests, Government (c) if so, the target set and achievement of India and the Minister for Development made in the production of gold in each gold Co-operation, Netherlands regarding envi- mine in 1987-88:and ronmental co-operation. A Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) was signed by the (d) the details thereof? two Ministers on 18.1.1988 to promote mu- tual Co-operation between the two coun- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tries concerning environment. DEPARTMENT OF MINES IN THE MINIS- TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI Manufacturing of Homoeopathic AAMANAND YADAV):(a) to (d). Gold ;s Shampoos produced in the country by Bharat Gold Mines Ltd (BGML) a Central Government 429. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Undertaking, and Hutti Gold Mines Com- SHRIRAMASHRAYPRASAD pany Ltd. (HGMl), an undertaking at Karna- SINGH: taka Government. besides being recovered, in small quantities, aa bye prodUd by Hin.. Will the Minister of HEALTH AND dustan Copper Ltd. The thr~a minc3, 87 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Written Answers 68 namely. Mysore Mine, Champion Reef Mine low deposits at Ohigargunta (Andhra and Nundydroog Mine of BGML in the Kolar Pradesh) with a view to giving a fillip to the Gold Field have virtually been exhausted as production of gold during 1987-88. these have been under operation for over a century. Since productivity is low owing to declining ore grade and operating costs high The production perlormance of th9~e due to mining at great depths, steps are gold mines in the country during the year being taken for optimising production from 1986 .. 87 and achievements against target s other economic mines at Yeppamana in during the current year (April, 1987- Andhra Pradesh besides developing shal- Jan, 1988) is as under:-

(Unit: Kgs.)

1. BGML

1986-87 1987-88(Apr.87.. 88) Actual Target Actual

(a) Kolar Gold Mines 618.95 599.9 521.6

(b) Yeppamana Mines 102.28 112.2 64.8

(c) Chigargunta Mines (In construction stage) 45.30 58.1 55.4

(d) Other sources 25.96 35.2

Total BGML 792.49 770.2 677.0

II HGML MINES 916.00 771.0 744.0

Funds for Literacy Amongst Adult (c) the targAt fixed for the Seventh Five Illiterates Year Plan to educate adult in the country and their number State-wise; and 431. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (d) the achievements made till date, DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: State-wise?

(a) whether the Union Government THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have decided to launch 8 national literacy DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND mission at a cost of As. 550 crores to CUL lURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN promote literaCy among adult illiterates dur· RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. ing the remaining period of the Seventh Five SHAHI): (a)The Government has approved Year Plan and also during Eighth Plan: the National Literacy Mission with the objec- tive of imparting functional literacy to 80 (b) the State-wise allocations made; million illiterate persons in 15-35 age-group 80 Written An,W81S PHALGUNA 8,1909 (SAKA) Wrltt." Answers 70 • 30 million by 1990 and additional 50 million schemes; no state-wile allocations of funds by 1995. Rs. 550 crores have been esti- are made. mated for implementation of strategies in- cluded in the Mission for the period 1987-88 (c) No target has been fixed for the to 1989-90. The provision in 1987-88 is Rs. Seventh Five Year Plan as a whole, though 75.50 crores. targets are fixed at the beginning of each year. (b) Department of Education releases (d) A statement showing the achieve .. grant to State Governments/Union Territory ments made state-wise. from 1981-82 to Administrations in relation to specific 1986-87 IS given below:-

STATEMENT

51. State slUTs Achievement (in lakhs)

1 2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 7.78

2. Assam 9.19

3, Bihar 25.23

4. Gujarat 11.07

5. Haryana 3.97

6. Himachal Pradesh 1.25

7. Jammu & Kashmir 4.16

8. Karnataka 9.48

9. Kerala 4.43

10. Madhya Pradesh 26.88

11. Mahara~ ntra 15.24

12. Manipur 0.60

13. Meghalaya 0.71

14. Naghaland 0.72

15. Orissa 5.34

18. Punjab 4.67 71 Written Answ9rs FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 72

1 2 3

17. Rajasthan 12.19

18. Sikkim 0.52

19. Tamil Nadu 27.66

20. Tripura 0.55

21. Uttar Pradesh 27.79

22. West Bengal 12.78

23. A & N Islands 0.08

24. Arunachal Pradesh 1.06

25. Chandigarh 0.22

26. 0& N Haveli 0.008

27. Delhi 2.19

28. Goa Daman & D,u 0.12

29. Lakshadweep Not Available

30. Mizoram 0.24

31. Pondicherry 0.64

Based on Annual State Report~ received from states/UTs.

Modernisation of Mini-Steel Plants THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- 432, SHRI R.M.BHOYE: Will the Minis- TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI ter of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Under the state: fresh guidelines for Licensing for Steel In- dustry existing licensed mini-steel plants (a) whether there is any proposal under would be permitted to undertake modernisa- the consideration of Government to allow all tion and expansion through the adoption of the mini-steel plants in the country to moder- modern technology and energy-saving nise these plants with the latest available equipments. Western technology, and (b) A statement Indicating the number and capacity of licensed mini steel plants, (b) if so, the details of such mini-plants, state-wise is givan below Permission for State-wise alongwith their capacity? modernisation and expansion will be given 73 Written AnSW.1S PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) to the plants which submit proposals in accordance wfth the guidefine •.

STATEMENT

51. Name of the Stat9/ No of Llc8ns9d No. Union Territory Units Capaclty(tonnes)

1 2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 8 2,02,800

2. Assam 2 27,000

3. Bihar 7 2,36,000

4. Chandigarh 1 40,000

5. Delhi 2 23.000

6. Goa

7. Gujarat 5 1,56,000

8. Haryana 13 3,58,500

9. Himachal Pradesh 3 82,000

10. Karnataka 11 3,41,000

11. Kerala 1 50,000

12. Jammu & Kashmir 1 18,000

13 Madhya Pradesh 11 3,75,500

14. Maharashtra 29 10,88.400

15. Orissa 1 18,000

16, Pondicherry 2 68,000

17, Punjab 8 2.49,000

18. Rajasthan 7 1,85,200

19. Tamil Nadu 5 1,78,800 75 Written AnSMHI FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 76

1 2 3 4

20. Uttar Pradesh 26 5,43,800

21. West Bengal 21 4,75,960

TOTAL 164 47,16,960

earning. of Different Railway Zone. -wise?

433. SHRI MATILAL HANSDA: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI the earnings of different zonal railways dur- MADHAVRAO S9INDIA): The information ing the last three years, year-wise and zone is furnished in the statement given below:-

(Rs. in Crores)

Zonal Earnings Railways

1984-85 1985-86 1986-87

Central 943.17 1117.43 1292.22

Eastem 611.29 770.70 900.55

Northern 875.48 1060.07 1302.22

N.E 154.83 195.62 228.48

N.F 121.43 145.30 185.42

Southern 394.14 464.97 497.25

S.C. 541.21 646.47 716.05

S.E 907.99 1080.55 1251.07

Western 815.95 958.04 1135.01

Proposal to Connect National Highway Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be Nos. 2 and 6 pleased to state:

434. SHRIAJITKUMAR SAHA: Will the (a) whether there is any proposal to n WrlIten An,..,. PHALGUNA 8, 1909 (SAKA) WrIItM Answcn 78 connect National Highway No.2 with Na .. wires. tional Highway No.6 so that Raniganj - Durgapur area could be connedad with ill) Replacement of combustible Kharagpur-Midnapore via Bankura; coRing material by limpet sheath.

(b) If so, the details thereof; and iv) Use of fire resistant paint over wooden pattern, wooden trough- (c) if not, the reasons therefor? ing, etc.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE v) Provision of spark arresters on MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT steam locomotive to prevent (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) The Central escaping of burning cinders. Government are not aware of any such proposal. vi) Publicity through posters, pam .. phetts, cinema slides, Radio and (b) and (c). Do not arise. T.V regarding hazards involved in carrying inflammable article, Fire Accidents In running Trains in oompartments.

435. SHRr KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Sponge Iron Plant at Hazlr. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 436. SHAI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pfeaa8if (a) the number of fire accidents which to state: took place in the running trains during the last three years; and (a) whether the country's largest sponge iron plant is being set up at Hazira in (b) the steps taken to check recurrence Gujarat; of such accidents? (b) if so, the basis on which that sponge THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE iron plant is being set up at Hazira; MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) During 1985- (c) the estimated oo5t and the employ- 86 , 1986-87 and 1987-88 (April to January), ment generation potential of that sponge there were 27 fire accidents on running iron plant; and trains. (d) the details thereof? (b) Some of the measures taken to prevent recurrence of such accidents are:- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MNIS- i) Use of rubberised coir in place of TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHAI YO- foam cushion to reduce its in- GENDRA MAKWANA ): (a) Yes, Sir. flam mability .

ii) Provision of fuses in negative (b) The entrepreneurs have located the circuit also. Relocation of fuses plant at .Hazira based on proximity to the and increasing the length of source of gas and the advantages of the unprotected length of branch pone 79 Written Answe15 FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Wrllten AnswelJ 80

(c) and (d). The entrepreneurs have view to advise the Government on the indicated that the estimated cost of t~e proj- policies and practices of Family Wetfara. So ect is about As 300 crores and that this far the response of the Corporate Sector project will provide direct employment to 400 towards these programmes has been en- to 500 persons. couraging.

Step. to Revamp Fam"y Welfare Recommendations of Association of Programme In Corporate Sector Indian Un.versltles

437. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: 438. SHRI K.RAMAMURTHY: Will Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCES WELFARE be pleased to state: DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state:

(8) whether Government have taken (a). the recommendations made by the staps to revamp the family weH are pro- 62nd Annual meeting of the Association of gramme in the corporate sector; Indian Universities held in Hyderabad on 17 December, 1987; and (b) if so, the specific steps taken in this regard; and b) the action being taken thereon?

(c) the response of the corporate sector THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to this programme? DEPARTMENTS OF EDJCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MIN ISTRY OF HUMAN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY SHAHI): (a) The major recommendations WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ that emerged out of the deliberatiorls at KHAPARDE):(a) to (c). Yes, Sir. The Gov- the meeting are listed in the statement ernment is continuously making efforts to given below: involve the Corporate Sector under its Family Welfare activities. Many major units (b) The follow-up action will be taken by In the country have already takan up Family the various Sub-Com mittses of the Associa- Welfare activities as one of their corporate tion of Indian Universities. objedives. Apex Organisations of industrial houses like FICCI. PHDCCI, EFI AIDE, etc. STATEMENT have also been involved by the Government in the Family Welfare programme. Govern- 1. Frequent interferences, in the ment of India have also introduced a number fundioning of universities by the , of projects with the assistance of ILO and Centre and State Governments UNFPA in tha Corporate Sector for motivat,- has greatly impinged upon the ing the members towards accepting the academic, administrative and small family norm. A number of meetings financial autonomy of universi- and workshops have been held all over the ties. The governments should, country for involving the Corporate Sector therefore •. restrain themselves • in the Family Welfare Programme. A Na- from interfering in the function- tional TTripartite Committee on Family Wel- ing of the Universities. fare Planning involving representatives of GPvernment, Employees Associations and 2. Most of the universities are auf- Trade Unions has been constituted with a fering from paucity of resources. 81 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Writtftn Answenr 82 As a result. inadequacy of infra- tum. structure facilities for teaching and research adversely affect 7. With a view to promoting higher the quality of higher education. It education and research, the is. therefore. desirable that the links between universities and UGC should be provided devel- research councils like ICSSR opment grants on 100 per cent and CSIR should be strength- basis and State Government enect should release reasonable amount of funds for meeting 8. In pursuance with the resolution maintenance expenditure. of the World Health Organisation for achieving the objective of 3. In order to improve communica- Heahh for All by 2000 AD,the tion network in universities. the universities should introduce UGC should expedite the re- Diplom8tDegree Courses in lease of funds on liberal basiS' to Health Sciences. the universities for such modern communication facilities as 9. Service conditions of Vice telex, Computer hookup wire- Chancellors and other Univer- less and internal TV circuits etc. sity Administrators should be reationalised and their salaries 4. The services rendered by the and other allowances should be universities should be extended determined in commensurate to the people of the areas where with their qualifications and ex- they are situated. In this connec- perience as well as responsibili- tion, University-Community ties entrusted to them. interaction should be promoted and strengthened in order to 10. The linkages between Bacon .. enhance the contributions of dary and university education universities to the society. ought to be established through the development of suitable cur- 5. In pursuance with the constitu .. riculum and evaluation system tional objective of bringing about so that mobility of students espe- parity between the two sexes, ciaJly those pursuing vocational the universities should develop streams of education could be suitable curriculum so as to ensured. achieve the laudable objective of Women's equality in our society. [ Translation]

6. The youth of our country take Converalon of Narrow Gauge Un. In part in adventure activities, par .. GW8110r Into BrQlld Gauge ticipata in camps. exchange programmes and social services 439. SHRI KAMMODILAl JATAV: WIll so as to devetop a comprehen .. the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to sive and Integrated personality. state: It was, therefore, suggested that NCC should be an optional wheth., there i. a proposal 10 subject in the university currar convert nan.:JW gauge lin. in Owalie" Into 83 Written An,,,.. FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 84 broad gauge line; directed the Unions to present their case before the High Power Committee which (b) if so, the details thereof; and had been set up by the Government to take recommendations on the pay and allow- (c) Hnot, the reasons therefor? ances of employees of public sector under- takings whose existing pay and allowances THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE are as of Central Government employees. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Accordingly the matter stand referred to the MAOHAVRAO SCINDIA):(a) to(c). Conver- High Power Pay Committee. The report of sion of Gwalior to Bhind NG line to BG forms this Committee has notsofarbeen received. part of construction of new BG line from Gun. to Etawah (348 km). The work on the The instalments of D.A. ordered to be project has been taken up in phases. released as per the order of the Supreme Court have been paid to its employees by Demands of D. T.e. Employees D.T.C. within the stipulated period.

440. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRI- [English] PATH I : Will the M;nister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Programme of Action under Operation Blackboard (a) whether there is great resentment among the Delhi Transport Corporation 441. SHRI SYED SHAHABUODIN: Will employees over their demands; the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details of their demands; (a) the names of States and Union (c) whether Government have not Territories which have finalised their pro- taken any decision on their demands so far; gramme of action for the academic year and 1987-88 under the Operation Blackboard;

(d) the time by which a decision is likely (b) the names of the States to whom to be taken in this connection? funds have been sanctioned;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) the names of the States etc. to whom MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT funds have already been released; (SHRI RAlESH PILOT):(a) and (b). The DTC employees have been agitating for (d) the total number of blocks and the appUcationtothem oftha pay pattern recom- number of blocks being taken up for mended by the 4th Pay Commission in Operation Blackboard, State-wise, in each respect of Central Government employees. State or Union territory; and Recently, some unions have given a natice of indefinite strike effective from 17.3.88 on (e) whether the programme of action for this issue. the academic year 1988-89 is already under formation so as to avoid the delay and the (c) and (d) Two of the OTe Worker's spill over? Unions had filed writ petitions in the Su- prema Court in this regard. The Supreme THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Court in an order dated October 13, 1987, DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATK>N AND 85 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 6.1909 (SAKA)

CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN Gujarat Punjab. Haryanl and Goa. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (8) The StateslUTs namely, Uttar (c) Funds have been released to four Pradesh, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Punjab, Goa, States namely, Uttar Pradesh. Rajasthan. Haryana, Andhra Pradesh, Arunachal Gujarat and Punjab. Pradesh, Kerala, Madhya Pradesh, Mahar .. (d) A statement is given below: .. ashtra, Orissa, Tamil Nadu, Delhi, La .. kshadweap and Himachal Pradesh have (8) For collecting information for com- finalised their programme of action for the pilling project reports for 88-89, Stat,. have acadamic. year 1987.. 88 undnr the bean advised to utilise the date of the Vth Operation Blackboard. Educational Survey conducted by NCERT. The have also bean advised to plan in ad- (b) Funds have been sanctioned to 6 vance for funds for construdion of school States namely Uttar Pradesh, Rajasthan, buildings for next year under the scheme.

STATEMENT

S.No. State/UT Total No. No. of Blocks of Blocks covered.

1 2 3 4

1. Uttar Pradesh 896 206

2. Rajasthan 237 47

3. Gujarat 184 43

4. Punjab 118 37

5. Goa 10 2

6. Harayana 100 20

7 Andhra Pradesh 1104 221

8. Arunachal Pradesh 48 11

9. Karala 157 30

10. Madhya Pradesh 459 92

11 Maharashtra N.A 52

12. Orissa' 314 85

13. Tamil Nadu 385 n 87 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25,1988 "Written AnSwelS 88

1 2 3 4

14. Delhi 107 22 (Wards)

15. Lakshadweep 1 1

16. Himachal Pradesh 69 18

TOTAL 4189 944

Allocation for Development of Inland Ii) construction of marine workshop Water Transport In Kerele with dry dock and slipway;

442. SHAI P.A. ANTONY: Will the iv) Headquarters' building for Ker- Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT . be ala Inland Navigation Corpora- pleased to state: tion;

(a) the total allocation for development v) acquisition of land construction of inland water transport in Kerala during of building and terminal facilities 1988-89; and for State Water Transport De- partment; (b) the scheme to be taken up for implementation during the year? vi) acquisition of fleet and augmen- tation of ferry services; THE MINSTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE, TRANSPORT vii) providing of workshop facilities; (SHAI RAJESH PILOT):(a) An allocation of As 273 lakhs has been made in the State viii) improvements 10 Udyogmandal Plan for development of inland water trans- Canal; port in Kerala during 1988-89. ix) improvements to Champakara As. 90 lakhs as loan assjstance from Canal Stage-II; and Central budget has been provided under Centrally Sponsored Schemes. x) procurement of dredger, water hyacinth harvester and other al- (b) The following schemes are to be lied equipments. . taken in 1988-89: Construction of DR. Ansari Auditorium In Jamie-MIllie Islamla i) Conducting of traffic surveys. hydrographic studies, training of 443. SHAI KHURSHIO'ALAM KHAN: personnel; Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to refer to the II) acquishion of 2 tanker barges of reply given to unstarred Question No. 1950 200 to 400 MT for transporting on 19 Novemver, 1987 regarding the aln- petroleum products; struction 01 Dr. Ansari Auditorium in the 89 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA)

Jamia-Miflia Islamia Campus. New Deihl Planning Commission Working Group on and stats: Elementary Education 19n. viz. Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Jammu & Kashmir, (a) the grogress made in construction of Madhya Pradesh, Orissa. Rajasthan, Uttar the auditorium so far; Pradesh and West Bengal.

(b) whether it is a fact that inspite of the (b) During the first two years of the assurance given. construdion of the audito- Seventh Five Year Plan viz. 1985-86 and rium has not yet been resumed; and 1986-87, the following three schems were being implemented exclusively in the nine (c) if so, the reasons for not taking up educationally backward State:- the construction? 1) Non- Formal Education Pro- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gramme for setting up and run .. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND ning NFE Centres; CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. 2) Appointment of women teachers SHAHI):(a)to (c) The C.P.W.O. have invited in primary schools for increasing tenders for the resumption of the remaining girls' enrolment; and work of construction and the tenders due to be received on 16th March 1988. 3) Early Childhood education for 3 to 6 age-group for setting up and Educationally Backward States running ECE Centres.

444. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHAY:Will The Scheme of Non .. formal Education the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- has now been expanded and improved. VELOPMENT be pleased to state: Arunachal Pradesh has been added as the 10th educationally backward State and the (a) the details of the Union territories revised scheme also covers all the States and States in the Country considered educa- and Union territories in urban slums, hilly. tionally backward during the Fifth and Sixth desert and tribal areas, and areas with con- Five Year Plans; centration of working children. Till date 909 NFE Projects have been sanctioned and (b) the special steps taken by Govern- grants released for operating 1,74,744 ment to help such Union territories! States centres. Under the scheme of appointment during the Seventh Five Year Plan and the of women teachers, grants were released for success achieved in this regard so far; and appointment of BOOO women teachers. Under the Early Childhood Education (c) the particulars of the areas in Punjab scheme, grants amounting to As. 337.99 which have been covered under such lakhs have been released to voluntary agen- scheme? cias in the nine educationally backward States. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND The scheme of appointment of women CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN teachers has now been subsumed into the RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT (SHAlloP. scheme of Operation Blackboard from 1987.. SHAHI):(a) The following nine States were 88. The scheme of Operation Blackboard is categorised educationally backward by the applicable to a" States and Union territories 91 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25,1988 Written Answers 92 and will help to bring all Primary schools upto approximate price of the total quantity sup- the minimum required standard which will in plied is approximately As. 2.8 crores. effect be a special assistance to backward areas. (d) and (e). No such phenomenon has ('ome to notice of the Government. (c) Punjab was not classified as an educationally backward State. No grants Publication of Autobiography of were released to that State under these Maulana Azad schemes. 446. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Supply of Nut Coke to Workers by SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH Durgapur Steel Plant MALIK:

445. SHRI S.M. GURADDI: Will the Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased DEVElOPMENT be pleased to state: to state: (8) whether late Mualana Azad's auto- (a) whether the authorities of the Our- biography is to be published after 30 years of gapur Steel Plant supply several tonnes of his death that is after 22 February, 1988; and nut coke to workers and officers; (b) if so, when this is likely to be pub- (b) if so, the total quantity of nut coke I&&hed? supplied during 1987 to workers and offi- cers; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (c) the total cost of this nut coke; CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE. DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. (d) whether the officers and workers SHAHI): (a) As per Agreement betwen Prof. sell this nut coke in the open market; and Humayun Kabir and MIs Orient Longman, Ltd., the sealed papers relating to the auto- (e) if so, the details thereto? biography of Maulana Azad were to have been opened on 22.2.1988. Due to the in- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE junction orders of Competent courts, this DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- could not be done. MIs Orient Longman Ltd. TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHAI YO- have the first option to publish the material GENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Yes, Sir. Dur- and they have also expressed thoir willirl<~­ gapur Steel Plant suppIJes coke fractions, ness to do so. Accordingly, Government has which also contain nut coke, to the Employ- no proposal at present to publish the autobi- ees' Cooperatives for distribution amongst ographyof late Maulana Azad. the employees. (b) Does not arise. (b) and (c). The total quantity of coke fractions released for supply to the employ- [ Translation] ees' cooperatives for distribution amongst the employees for the period January to Excavation of Ancient Civilization December, 1987, was 46,623 tonnes. This mixed coke is being sold at present at the 447. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the rata of Rs. 600 per tonne. Therefore the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL- 93 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Wrinen Answers 94

OPMENT be pleased to state: been partially done.

(a) whether the Archaeological Depart- [English] ment is engaged in the work of tracing an ancient civilization in Gyaraspur, district Working of the Prevention of Food vidisha (Madhya Pradesh); Adulteration Act

(b) if so, the allocation made for this 448. SRRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: purpose and the amount spent so far on the Will the Minister of HEALTH ANDFAMllV excavation of that temple; WELFARE be pleased to state:

(c) whether there are several ancient (a) whether adulteration of toffee, lolli- temples, in the Neel Kantheshwar Shivman- pops, ice-Iollies, milk, pan masala etc. is on dir, tehsil Ganjbasanda in this district; and the increase;

(d) if so, the steps taken for their reno- (b) whether any assessment has been vation and to make them attractive from made of the working and effectiveness of the tourism point of view? Prevention of Food Adulteration Act, 1954 in curbing adutteration; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (c) if so, the outcome thereof; CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. (d) whether any amendment to the said SHAHI): (a) No, Sir. Act is contemplated to make it more effec- tive; and (b) Question does not arise. (e) if so, the outlines of the proposed Ie) Neel Kantheshwar Shivmandir also amendment? known as Udayeshwar Temple with its sub- sidiary shrines at Udaypur. Tahsil Ganjbas- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ada, distrid Vidisha. Madhya Pradesh is a MINISTRY OF HEALTt-i AND FAMILY cer.trally protected monument. WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) to (c). As per the information made avail- (d) Conservation measures such as able by various States and U nion Territories, resetting of Sikhara tieres of the temple and the percentage of adulteration in milk and gr'ound pavement; clearance of accummu- miscelaneous food products (which in- lated debris around the temple to expose the cludes toffee, Joolliopops, ice-IIaJlies and origir'll features were undertaken in the pan msala) during the years 1984, 1985 and past. The removal of modern accretions has 1986';8 as under:-

1984 1985 1986 Based on informatk from 28 StateslUOI. Territories

Milk 34.47% 33.720/0 34.770/0

Misc. Food Produds 11.25% 13.95% 95 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 96

(d) and (9). The Prevention of food ing Organization as an autonomous Organi- Adulteration Act 1954, has recently been zation. The Government on reconsideration amended in the year 1986, empowering decided to set up a High Powered Board in reconginised consumer Associations also to the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare for have an article of food analysed by the marketing of Contraceptives. USAID in the Public Analyst and initiate legal proceedings meantim e decided to deobligate loan portion against the vendor/person responsible, in of $34 million of USAID assistance for the case the said article of food is found to be Project. Consequently. _Government de- adulterated. cided to close the issue.

New.lt8m Captioned "US Cuts $34m In (c) Out of $34 million deobligatd project FP aid to India" funds, USAID has reobligated $10.13 million for Population related activities. 449. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: (d) This cut is not likely to have any SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: effect on the implementation of Family Wel- fare Programme. Will the Minister of'HEAL TH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: Treatment of Strike Period of Doctors

(a) whether the attention of Govern- 450. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: Will ment has been drawn to a news item cap- the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY tioned flUS cuts $34 million in FP aid to India" WELFARE be pleased to state: appearing in the Indian Express dated 3 February, 1988; (a) whether Government have taken any deCision that the last strike period of the (b) if so, the nature and extent of the cut doctors of Cl?ntral Health Services be in US aid for family Planning programme in treated as 'dies-non' or non-existent in the the country; doctor's career;

(c) whether it IS a fact that the funds (b) whether Government had earlier meant for certain family planning program- assured the striking doctors that all punitive mes have been re-invested into other pro- action would be withdrawn; grammes: and (c) whether Government are aware of (d) how for the saId cut and re-invest- the deep resentment among the doctos ment of fund would effect the family planning against the order; and programmes in the country? (d) whether Government propose to THE MINISl1:R OF STATE IN THE withdraw the aforesaid order? MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY . WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) and (b) A prO)9.ct Agreement for USAID MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 8$lstance of US $ 47 million ($34 million loan WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): and $13 mIllion grS41t) was signed for Family (a) to (d). The following instruction have Planning CommuOication and Marketing been issued by the Ministry of Health and Project on 30th Aug., 83. This Inter-alia In- Family Welfare in regard to treatment of the c!uded setting up of a contraceptive Market- period of strike of the Central Heatth Service 97 Written Answ91S PHAlGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Ans .." 98 doctors from 20.7.87 to 28.7.87:- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF MINES IN THE MINIS- (i) There shall be no victimisation of TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI the doctors who went on strike. RAMANAND VADAV): (8) No, Sir.

(ii) Doctors whose serVices were (b) to (d). The Feasibility Report for the terminated for participation in export oriented Bauxite Complex in Andhra the strike be taken back, if they Pradesh, prepared. jointly by Soviet and report for duty. Indian agencies, is under consideration of the Working Group on Non-ferrous Metal- (iii) Doctors who participated in the lurgy of the Inter-governmental Soviet-In- strike shall not be entitled to pay dian Commission on Eoonomic. Scientific and allowances for the period of and Technical Cooperation. Since the mat- strike but the period of strike has ter has to be discussed with various agen- been condoned. The period of cies of India and USSR, no time limit can be strike will not entail forfeiture of indicated. past service for pensionary and other service benefits but the Incidence of AI OS actual period of strike it-self will not count as qualifying service. 452. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: SHRI KRISHNA SINGH: It is the policy of the Government that no pay and allowances should be given for the Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY period of strike. This however, does not WELFARE be pleased to state: constitute pun itive action. (a) the number of persons tested for AIDS in the country during the year 1987; Aluminium Plant at Krishna Devapet (b) the number of persons found in- 451. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA- fected with AIDS virus; MURTY: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (c) the numberofforeigners out of them and the action taken in that regard; (a) whether ner :>tiations with the USSR for setting up aiurrl nium plant at Krishna (d) the measures taken for the treat- Devapet are at final stage; ment of AJDS in the country; and

(b) whether negotiations for the pricing ( e) whether any instructions have been of bauxite which the USSR want to buy from issued to all the State HeaHh authorities, India has been finalised; hospitals, STO clinics to be more vigilant of AIDS cases? (c) whether infrastructure facilhies like railway line from Krishna Devapet will be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE provided connecting it with - MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY Vijayawada main line; and WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) During the year from 1stJan. 1987t031st (d) when the deal is likely to be materi- Dec. 1987. 43616 persons from high risk alised? groups were screened by ELISA test for HIV 99 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25,1988 Writtsn Answers 100 antibodies. nancial year for construction of roads and repair of embankments breached by the (b) and (c). HIV antibodies were de- floods; tected in 122. Out of this, 21 were foreign students and 12 were foreign nationals. (b) if so, the details of the assistance They have been asked to have the country. provided by Union Government to Bihar State for the said purpose during the current (d) AIDS is a disease of varying mani- fi nancial year; and festations. Most of the AIDS patients suffer from opportunistic infections or 'iom malig- (c) the further assistance proposed to nant tumours. Facilities for detection and be given to meet the development of roads in treatment of these illnesses are available in the near future? major hospitals in the country. However, till now no drug to cure AIDS or vaccine to THE MINISTFR OF STATE OF THE prevent AIDS has been discovered and MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT therefore, treatment to cure or prevent AIDS (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) to (c). The is not available. Government of India are responsible for maintenance and development of National (e) Yes. Highways only, which are fully financed by them. Financial Assistance for Development of Roads In Bihar All other roads are the responsibility of the State Government concerned. However 453. DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Will the some assistance is provided by the Govern- Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be ment of India in the form of grant-In-aid and pleased to state: ioan for construction of State Roads, the quantum for which is determined on an year (a) whether the Government of Bihar to year basis. The following amount has has urged Union Government to provide been earmarked for Bihar during the current adequate assistqnce during the current fi- financial year:

(i) Central Road Fund: Rs. 30.00 lakhs

(ii) Roads of 'nter-State and Economic Importance: Rs. 50.00 lakhs

Area Vocational Surveys by Statls curriculum, text-books, work-books; curricu- lum guides and training manual would be 454. SHAI NARS1NG SURYAWAN- prepared for nearly 500 courses under the SHI~ Will the Minister of HUMAN RE- scheme; SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (b) if so, the number of States which have carried out the survey so far; and (a) whether Area Vocational Surveys are proposed to be carried out by all the (c) if not, the reasons therefor? States for efffective implementation of the schema to boost vocational education and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 101 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6.1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Steps to Prevent Capitation Fe. CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI l.P. 456. SHAI . SAMBHAJIRAO ! SHAHI): (a) Yes. Sir. KAKAOE: SHAI T. BASHEER: SHAI AMARSINH AATHAWA: (b) and (c). In the past vocatiol)al sur- veys h'lve been conducted for a number of Will the Ministal of HUMAN RESOURCE districts. The new Cent:-ally-sponsored DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: scheme of Vocationalisation of Education, which Inter-alia provides for carrying out (a) whether Government have advised district vocational surveys, has been circu- the State Governments and Union T 9rr;to- lated among all the StateslUTs on 1.2.88 ries to prevent collection of capitation fees by only and they will now initiate action for educational institutions; and conducting district vocational surveys under the scheme. (b) if so, the steps taken in this regard and the results achieved?

Felling of Trees in Maharashtra THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND 455. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. FORESTS be pleased to state: SHAHI): (a) and (b). The Government have issued suitable instructions to the State (a) whether lakhs of trees have been Governments and the Union Territories to felled in Maharashtra during the last one prevent the collection capitation fees by the year; Technical and Medical institutions. Legisla- tive measures have also been taken to stop (b) if so, whether Union Government the practice of collecting capitation fees. The have issued any directions to State Govern- All India Council for Technical Education ments to protect the forests; Act, 1987 passed by Parliament and the proposed amendment to the Indian Medical (c) whether Union Government pro- Council Act, 1956 which is already under pose to conduct a detailed enquiry on felling consideration of the Joint committee of the of a large number of trees in Maharashtra Parliament, interalia include provision to State; and prohibit collection of capitation fees. Some of the States have enacted laws in this (d) if so, the steps Government propose regard. The measures taken shall start yield- to take to stop the process of deforestation in ing the desirable results in due course of the country? time.

Revised Pay Scales for Teachers of liT. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- 457. SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: Will the ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) to (d). The Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL- information is being collected from the State OPMENT be pleased to state: Government and will be placed on the Table of the House. (a) whether Government are aware of 103 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 104 the growing discontentment in the faculty of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE all the five Indian Institutes of Technology MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR· over the inordinate delay in announcing ESTS (SHRt Z.R. ANSARI): (a) and (b). The revised pay scales for faculty teachers of Matter is now under consideration. It is not IITs; possible to give an exact date by which the clearance will be given. (b) whether liT teachers went on mass casual leave recently to protest against the Call of Planning Commission for Family delay in announcing the revised pay scales Planning Programme for them; and 459. DR. DATTA SAMANT: Will the (c) if so, the main demands of their Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- federation and the steps being taken to meet FARE be pleased to state whether the Plan- their demands with a view to remove discon- ning commission has called for urgent steps tentment among liT teachers? to introduce various measures for family planning programme in view of the birth rate being 2.1 per cent approximately in the last THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE two years and if so. the details thereof? DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MIN ISTRY OF HUMAN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY SHAHI): (a) to (c). Faculty members of some WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): of the Indian Institutes of Technical report- There is a constant interaction between edly went on Casual Leave on 8th February, Ministry of Health and Family ~elfar9 and 1988 to press their demand for early an- vanous agencies including the Planning nouncement of revised pay scales. The All Commission about the strategy to be fol- India Council for Technical Education loweed for effective functioning of the Family (AICTE) has recently considered the report Welfare Programme including measures of the Dogra Committee appointed by itto go necessary to bring down the growth rate of Into the question of revision of pay scales for population. The Family Welfare strategy is {Jachers of technical institutions including modified from time to time to incorporate IlTs. The recommendations of the AICTE necessary measures. are under consideration of the Government.

Environmental Clearance of Telugu Voluntary Organisations for Implement- Ganga Project Ing various Programma. under Literacy Mission 458. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- 460. SHRI G. S. BASAVARAJU: ESTS be pleased to state: SHRI S.M. GURADDI:

(a) The details of the decision taken by Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Union Government on the request of Andhra DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Pradesh Government for the environmental clearance of Telugu Ganga Project; and (a) whether about one thousand volun- tary organisations have decided to involvse (b) the date by which the clearance Will themselves in various programmes to be be given? launched by Literacy Mission; 105 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers' 108

(b) if so, the names of the organisations Kashmir. Rajasthan. Uttar Pradesh and which have agreed in the regard; and West Bengal. The revised scheme has now been extended to cover ten educationally (c) the details of the :-o'ain plans in this backward States (Arunacha1 Pradesh hav- regard? ' ing been added as the tenth educationally backward State) and in addition, to all other THE MINJSTER OF STATE IN THE States and Union Territories in urban slums.

DEPARTMENTS OF ,EDUCATION AND hilly I desert and tribal areas. and areas with CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN concentration of working children. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHAI L.P. SHAHI): (a) No. Sir. However. the National (b) The main characteristics of the Literacy Mission has envisaged that volun- _scheme are its stress upon area-specific, tary agencies will be involved on a large population-specific planntng with emphasis scale for spread of the fundional literacy on programmes on a project basis; each programme, for training and technical, re- project comprising of about 100 centres in a source development, experimentation and compact and contiguous areas c:otenninoU8 innovation, etc. It has been estimated that with a C.D. block thereby ensuring proper about 300 voluntary organisations will be supervision. monitoring. management and involved in the programme in 1987-88. 700 administration. Cost of training of instrudora , in 1988-89 and 1000 in 1989-90. is being provided and oasts for teachingl learning material. equipment and lighting (b) and (c). Do not arise. have been revised upwards.

Scope of Non.. forml Education Observance of Centenaries and Annlver· 461. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: sarle. of Important P.rsonaIHI•• SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: SHRI A.M. BHOVE: 462. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- ASHAR: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE- Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: state:

(a) whether Government have recently (a) whether Government have pre- revised and enlarged tho scope of the Non- pared any calendar for the next 15 years for Formal Education Scheme so as to cover all the observance of cente~aries and anniver- the States; and saries of important personalities;

(b) if so, the details regarding the main (b) if so, the details thereof and whether characteristic of this revised scheme? any suggestions have also been made tothe Ministries of Communications and Informa- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion and Broadcasting for issuing com- DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND m&moration stamps and publication of suit- CULTURE IN THE NINISTRY OF HUMAN able literature including biographies, collec- RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. tion of speeches/writings. respectively to SHAHI): (a) Yes Sir. The earlier scheme highlight the contribution made by these was confined to nine educationally back- personalities to the task of nation building or ward States;- Andhra Pradesh, Assam, the world of letters, arts. cuttura, sciences Bihar. Madhya Pradesh. Orissa, Jamrnu & and aocial18rvice8; 107 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25,1988 Writtfln Answers 108

(c) if so, the details of suggestions incorporating a specified warning on Ciga- made in this regard; and rette packets/cartons and in Cigarette ad- vertisements. Since regulation of other to- (d) if not, whether any such suggestions bacco products such as bidis, cigars etc. would be made in the future so as to estab- falls within the purview of State Govern- lish meaningful cooperation and coordina· ments, they have been urged to get a reso- tion at the national level? lution passed in the State legislatures for adoption of a package of anti-tobacco meas- THE MINISTER OF STATE iN THE ures to enable the Parliament to enact a DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND legislation. CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. Weekly Running of Cochln-Bllaspur SHAHI): (a) No, Sir. Express

(b) to (d). As and when National 464. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER· Committees are set up to celebrate individ- JEE: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be ual centenaries, tho decisions taken by the pleased to state: committee are coordinated with the con- cerned departments for implementation. (a) whether 955/956 Cochin-Bilaspur Express which was runn:'1g twice a week Implementation of Recommendations has been converted into a weekly train; and of Seminar on Smoking and Health (b) if so, the r~asons therefor? 463. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGA- LAM: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether a Seminar on Smoking and Health was organised in Simla in 1983 and if (b) Due to operational reasons and so, the recommendations made late the inadequate traffic offering. Seminar; and

. (b) whether these recommendations Financial Assistance to Popularlse have been accepted and implemented by Buffalo Race Government and if so, the details thereof? 465. SHRI V.S.KRISHNA IYER: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY VELOPMENT be pleased to state: WELFARE (KUMAR I SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) Yes. The first Seminar on Smoking and (a) whether Government are aware that Health held at Shimla in 1983 recommended Kambala game (Buffalo race) is very popular formulation of policy for discouragement of in Karnataka particularly in Dakshina Kan- tobacco use on priority basis in National nada District; Health Programme. (b) whether the Government of Karna- (b) The existing legislation namely 'The taka has brought the details of the above Cigarettes (Regulation of Production, Sup- game to the notice of Sports Authority of ply and Distribution) Act, 1975 provides for India for rednering financial assistance: 109 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Writtgn Answers 110

(c) if so, the action that has been taken tion etc. to provide financial assistance to popularise the above game; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMilY (d) the steps proposed to be taken to WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): popularise the above game in other parts (a) Two Regional Medical Research Centres of the country also? of Indian council of Medical Research (leMA) are functioning in tribal areas. The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Central Council for Research in Homoeopa- DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS thy (CCRH) have also set up 22 Clinical AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD Research Units (T) . Similarly, The Central DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Council for Research in Ayurveda and HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT : Siddha CCRAS) have established 5 Tribal (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA):(a) and (b). Health Care Research Projects in Ayurveda. Yes, Sir. 2 in Siddha. 1 in Amethi system of Medicine besides 2 regional Research Centres. (c) Under the Sports Authority of India plan scheme of Promotion of Indigenous (b) Two Regional Medical Research Games and Martial Arts, financial assis- Centres established by leMA are function· tance upto Rs. 25,000/- is made available for ing at Jabalpur (Madhya Pradesh) and Port holding of competitions in indigenous games Blair (Andaman and Nicabar Islands). and martial arts popular in a particular area of the country but which could not flourish The Clinical research Units set up by due to financial constraints and inadequate CCRH are located at (1) Aizwal (2) Bastar media coverage. A proposal was received (3) Bharmaur (4) Bhrauch (5) Dandeli (6) from Karnataka for financial assistance Darjeeling (7) Diphu (8) Gonda (9) Idduki under the scheme, for holding of Buffalo (10) Itanagar (1') Jayapore (12) Kohima Game Competition at State level. An amount (13) Leh (14) Manipur (15) Pondicherry (16) of Rs. 25,000/- was sanctioned. Ranchi (17) Salem (18) Sambalpur (19) Shillong (20) Sikkim (21) Tripura and (22) (d) There is no specific proposal for Vijayawada. popularisation of this particular indigenous game throughout the country. However, the Five Tribal Health Care Research Proj- . scheme provides for publication of literature ects in Ayurveda set up by CCRAS are on indigenous games and martial arts 10r ns located at (1) Ziro (2) Car-Nicobar (3) Pala- wide pUblicity. mau (4)Jhabua and (5) Ohule; two projects in Siddha are located at (1) Thripathur and Tribal Health Research Centres (2) Chikmaglur; and one projed in Amchi system of Medicine is at leh. Besides, two 466. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will the Regional Research Centres of CCRAS are Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- functionjng at Itangar and Gangtok FARE be pleased to state: [ Translation] (a) the number of Tribal Health Re- search Centres functioning in the country; Shortage of Doctors In Rural Areas and 467. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : WlII the (b) the details thereof regarding Icca- Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- 111 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Wrht." Answers 112

FARE be pleased to state: present better deployment of doctors in rural areas. (a) whether there is a shortage of doc- tors in about fifty per cent Government hos- [English] pitals situated in rural areas; Increase In Ste.' Prices (b) if so, whether there is any proposal under consideration of Union Government to 468. SHRt KAMAL NATH: start an All India Rural Medical Service) to SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES .. overcome this shortage; and WARI:

(c) if not the other steps being taken to Will the Minister of STeEL AND MINES be meet the shortage of Doctors in rural areas? pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether despite the average fifteen MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMilY per cent hike in the steel prices announced WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): by Government, the S~991 Authority of India (8) SAd (b). According to the information is likely to incur a huge loss during the received from State Governments, around current year; 1 ~/o of the posts of doctors in rural areas are reportedly lying vacant. (b) the extent of the loss and the rea- sons therefor; and (c) In order to attract doctors to serve in rural areas, the 8th Finance Commission, on (c) the steps taken to remedy the situ- the suggestions of the Ministry of Health & ation? Family Welfare has provided special funds to the States for providing the following in- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE centives to doctors serving in rural areas and DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- not allowed private practice; TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI YO- GENDRA MAKWANA): (8) The question of (i) A rural allowance equal to 25% of the profit or loss of SAIL during the current year baisc pay subject to a maximum of Rs. 2501 will be know only when the Financial Ac- - per month for the doctors serving in Pri- counts get compiled and audited at the end mary Health Centres; and of the financial year. .

(ii) House rent allowance at the rate of (b) and (c). Do not arise. Rs. 1501- per month where the doctors are not provided residential accommodation. NWDB Assistance to Voluntary Agen- In addition, the Finance Commission cies In Orissa has made special provision of Rs. 53.52 crores for construction of residential quar- 469. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Will ters fo~ the doctors. The hilly areas have the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR· been prOVided 300/0 'make-up' in the cost of ESTS be pleased to state: construction. (a) the voluntary agencies in Orissa Consequent to the introduction of these getting assistance from the National Waste- incentive schemes, there appears to be at lands Development Board; 113 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Writtsn Answs" 114

(b) the amount released so far; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF niE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS(SHRI Z.R. ANSARI):(a) and (b). (c) whether any evaluation of the proj- The agencies in Orissa getting assistance ects has been made and if so, the outcome from NWDB and the amount released to thereof? each are given below:

Name of Agency Amount released

(1) Gram Vikas Mohuda, Berhampur 12,88,375

(2) P.R.E.P.A.R.E., Koraput, Rayagada 15,500

(3) Nyaya Sahyak Samiti, Pujariput, Koraput 1,12,355

(4) Vikas Niketan, Moniguda, Koraput 60,000

(5) All India Harijan Sevak Sangh, Ti11igarh 5,520

(6) Gapal Sandhu Welfare & Cultural Association Badagaon, Kendrapara 7,500

14,89,250

(c) An evaluation of Gram Vikas (c) the number of Navodaya Vidyalayas Mohuda was carried out by NWDB. It is started in the States of West 8engal, Tripura found that although there was some and Kerala respectively; moretality of seedings due to drought condi- tions, the general condition of the saplings (d) whether fresh applications have and the planting techniques are satisfac- been received by the Ministry from the Ker.. tory. ala Government for starting more Navodaya Vidyalayas there; and

Objections to Navodaya Vidyalayas by (e) if SOt the decision taken by Govern- various States ment in this regard?

470. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of HUMAN DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN to state: RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) and (b). No. Sir. However, the (a) whether any State Governm9nt has State Governments of Assam, Tamil Nadu raised objedions to the starting of Navodaya and West Bengal have expressed certain Schools; reservations regarding same features or the scheme of Navodaya Vidyalayas. So far. no (b) if so, the details thereof and objec- proposal for the establishment of Navodaya tions raised by those States; Vidyalayas has been received from these 115 Wrinen Answers FEBRUARY 25,1988 Written Answers 116 three States. clal year 1987-88. Its estimated cost is Rs. 40.90 crores. An outlay of Rs. one erore has (c) The number of Navodaya been provided for it during the current finan- Vidyalayas started so far and proposed to be cial year. The work on this project has al- started is as under: ready started.

West Nil Migration of Doctors Abroad Bengal 472. SHAI THAMPAN THOMAS: Will Tripura - Three (Sanctioned to be the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILV started during 1988-89) WELFARE be pleased to state:

Kerala - Ten (4 started during 1986- (a) the total number of doctors in the 87, 3 started during 1987- country; 88, 3 proposed to be started c1Jring 1988-89) (b) how many doctors have left India to serve in other countries during the last three (d) and (9). Further proposals for the years, yearwise; establishment of Navodaya Vidyalayas in Districts of Wayanad and Quilon have so far (c) how much money is spent by Gov- been received from the State Government of ernment for making one stuoent a doctor; Kerala and the same are under considera- and ti~n. (d) the steps taken py Government to Lakshmlkantapur-Namkhana Railway get the services of these doctors for the Line benefit of the countryme",?

471. SHRI AMAL DAITA: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOS- MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY SAIN: WELFARE (KUMARI SA~OJ KHAPARDE): (a) The total number of doctors registered in Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to the Indian Medical Register upto December, state: 1986 is 3.45.982.

(a) whether the work on the proposed (b) No figures are available regarding railway line between Lakshmikantapur and the number of doctors who have left India to Namkhana has started; and serve in other countries quring the last three years. (b) if so, the details thereof and, jf not, the reasons therefor? (c) No systematic S1udy has been con- ducted by Government on this issue. How- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ever, according to a stUQY conducted by the MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Central Bureau of Hearth Intelligence during MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. 1977-78, the cost of me~ical9ducation was Rs. 92,000 in respect of Medical College, (b) Construction of new B.G. line be- Shimla and Rs. 1,35,000 in JIPMER, Pondi- tween Lakshmikantapur and Namkhana (47 cherry at current prices. In this study, a km) has been approved in the current finan- national depreciation on estimated value of 117 Written Answers PHALCUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 118 fixed assets was calculated in the absence India or in India and engaged in of detailed records of non-recurring expendi- research in the field of Bio-medi- ture and 100/0 of the hospital expenditure cine, whos9 work is adjudged to was assumed to have been incurred to- be of outstanding quality, can be wards cost of hospital services; offered temporary placement under the Council to enable (d) The foJJow;ng steps have been them to return to India and to taken to discourage the migration of medical pursue research in their own manpower to foreign countries: specially till such time as they are able to secure a regular i) Restrictions have been placed position either in any of the Insti- on medical graduates going tutes of the Councilor else- abroad for higher education and where. training where such training fa- cilities exist in the country. Doc- vi) The nationalised banks also of- tors belonging to scarce catego- fer loans to enable the doctors to ries are not sponsored for em- establish clinics/nursing homes ployment abroad. in rural areas and semi-urban areas. ii) Advance increments are granted to specially qualified vii) The Medical Council of India candidates on the recommenda- have made necessary changes tions of the State and Union in their regulations on Under- Public Service Commissions. graduate medical education to secure the community orienta- iii) Improvements in the service tion of medical education with conditions of doctors particularly emphasis on prevontive, promo- those serving in rural areas are tive, curative and rehabilitative being brought about by the State aspects of health care services Governments/Union Territory to attract a larg& number of doc- Governments. tors for service in the rural areas.

iv) The Scientists Pool Scheme Rational Drug Therapy in Paediatrics operated by CSIR provides tem- porary placement to highly quali- 473. SHRI H.B. PATll: fied Indian Scientific & Technical SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Personnel including medical doctors returning from foreign Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY countries generally for two to WELFARE be pleased to state: three years. (a) whether a large number of harmful. v) A scheme for supernumerary irrational and ineffective drugs and drug research cadre has been intro- combinations are widely prescribed and sold duced by the Indian Council of in the Indian market today; Medical Research under which Scientists of outstanding merit, (b) whEfther;n the Semir.ar held on both medical and non-medical 'Rational Drug • herapy in Paediatric Prac- working in countries outside tice' at the All India Institute of Medical Sci- 119 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Writr4in AnSW.1S 120 ences, New Delhi certain recommendations which are facing financial crisis and have have been made; failed to run into production in lhe year 19871

(c) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- (d) the reaction of Government in this TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI YO- regard; GENDRA MAKWANA): (a) 1 st stage of Vizag Steel Plant is likely to be commis- (e) whether Government have any sioned by the end of December, 1988. In proposal to constitute a National Paediatric ad.dition, five new mini steel plants are ex- Drug Board; and pected to go into production.

(f) if SQ, the time by which it will be (b) As per informatiop available with the constituted? Development Commissioner for Iron and Steel, 11 mini steel plants have been closed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE during 1987-88 due to financial problems. MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY I WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): Import Duty 00 Copper (a) A number of fixed dose combinations of drugs are moving In the market. The Sub- 475. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA SINHA: Committee of the Drugs Consultative Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be Committee (DCC) screens such combina- pleased to state: tions from the angle of safety, rationality and efficacy and recommends weeding out (a) whether Union Government had those combinations which are found to be received several representations from the harmful irrational or intJffective. So far Gov- copper traders/importers tor reduction of ernment has already banned 26 categories duty on imported copper: of drugs and their combinations. This is a continuous process. (b) whether Govern'1lent had thereafter reduced the duty qUite substantIally; (b) to (f). The World Health Organiza- tion $ponsored seminar was organised by (c) whether due to this reduction the Dr. D.P. Ghlli, Dean and Professor of Pae- domestic copper mining Industry has suf- diatriCS, All India Institute of Medical Sci- fered a great set back; ences, but the Government have not re- ceived any recommendations from the or- (d) if so, the facts and details thereof; ganisers. and

New Steel Plants (e) the action being taKen to give ample protection to the domestic mining industry 474. SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY: Will against such reductIon In (juty andlor price of the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be copper? pleased to state:

(a) tho number of new steel plants THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE which are €'lfpoc!ed to go into production In DEPARTMENT OF MINES IN THE MINIS- the year' 083: ,:lnd TRY OF STEEL ANI) MINES (SHRI (b) the numb<.'r uf mini steel plants RAMANAND YADAV): (a) to (e). During 121 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA)

November-December, 1987, Government for any other river of the CXluntry. received a number of representations from domestic consumers of copper in the wake Committee Report on Bauxite Crusher of constant rise in the international prices of Plant copper. Keeping in view the overall interest of the economy, the import duty on copper 477. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the (unwrought) was reduced from 1400/0 ad Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased valorem to 95% ad valorem with effect from to state: 30.12.1987 by the Government. The matter relating to a suitable Pricing Policy for cop- (a) whether report of the Committee per in the country based on normative cost of which had been set up to go into the need for prodoction and keeping in view the over-all relocation of the proposed bauxite crusher interests of the indigenous producers, the plant at the s~e of the mine project on Gand- canalising agency and the consumers is hamardhan hills for minimising dust and under consideration of the Bureau of Indus- vibration on the hills has since been re .. trial Costs & Prices (Slep). ceived;

Use of Turtles to Clean Ganga (b) if so, the main recommendations of the Committee; and 476. SHRI D.N. REDDY: Will the Minis- ter of ENVIRONMENT AND FORESTS be (c) Government's readion thereto? pleased to state:

(a) whether turtles are to be used THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE extensively to clean Ganga river; and DEPARTMENT OF MINES IN THE MINIS .. TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI (b) if so, whether similar steps are RAMANAND YADAV): (a) to (c). No sepa- proposed to be taken in the case of other rate Committee has been set up by the Govt. main rivers of the country? to go into the need for relocation of the proposed crusher plant. However, a High THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Level Expert Committee was appointed by MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- the Govt. of India under the Chairmanship of ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) and (b). The Dr. B.D. Nag Chaudhuri to study in depth the Wildlife wing of the Forests Department of impact of mining on ecology and environ- U.P. ·is implementing a scheme for captive ment of Gandhamardan Bauxite Project of breeding of fresh water turtles and releasing Bharat Aluminium Company Limited them in those stretches of Ganga where their (BALeO). The location of the crusher plant, natural population has been depleted signifi- however, was not one of 1he terms of refer- cantly in recent years due to human interfer- ence of the Committee. The Committee has ence and othe·r reasons. The objective of the inter-alia, recommended that the need for scheme is to conserve this endangered relocating the crusher plant may be exam- species and mainlain the ecOlogical balance ined, such that it is Aot a hili-top or a hill slope in the river. The scheme is being imple- location so that the dust and vibration are mented w~h the expenditure being shared kept within manageable limits. All aspects of by the Government of India and the U.P. environmental and ecological issues are State Government. The scheme is in respect under consideration of Environmental Man .. of River Ganga and no such scheme has agement Authority (EMA) constituted for the been approved undertheGangaAction Plan Project. 123 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Wnn.n Answ61S 124 [ Translation) the families of the deceased persons and to the injured persons; Train accidents during 1987 (d) the details of the causes of these 478. SHRI VILAS MUTIEMWAR: Will accidents; and the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (e) the steps taken by Government to check such accidents? (a) the number of railway accidents which took place during 1987, zone-wise; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) the number of persons killed and MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI injured therein, zone-wise and cost of dam- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b). Zone- age to railway property as a result thereof; wise break-up of train accidents and the persons killed and injured in these accidents (c) the amount of compensation paid to during 1987 is as under:·

Railway No. of Casualty acci- dents. Killed Injured

1 2 3 4

Central 77 13 60

Eastern 82 7 56

Northern 116 35 113

North Eastern 33 11 22

Northeast Frontier 69 4· 27

Southem 50 36 188

South Central 56 67 18

South Eastem 66 21 56

Wastern 64 31 56

The cost of damage to raitway property has been estimated at RI. 1.. 2 crores. 125 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 126

(c) An amount of about Rs. 1.7 crores gitis is largely responsible for a large number was paid to families of tho deceased and to of deaths of teenage children; those injured in accidents which took place in 1987. (b) if so, whether the incidence of the disease is more during winter and spring; (d) Accidents occur for a variety of causes or their combInation. Many occurred (c) whether Government are closely duo to failure of somp railway staff, due to monitoring the situation for necessary ac- negligence of road users at lf3vel crossings, tion; and failure of roiling stock and permanent way equipment, s:)botng(~ and incidental factors (d) whether the Incidence of disease is like failing of boulders, trees. etc .. on track. relatively higherin Delhi, Maharashtra, Bihar and West Bengal vis-a-vis other States? (e) somf~ of the important safoty meas· ures taken to prevent accidents are:- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY (i) Intensification of field Inspec- WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): tions and counselling of staff; (a) Meningitis is not a leading cause of deaths of teenage children. However, (ii) Identification of accident-prone deaths due to meningitis is comparatively areas by Safety T earns and initi· higher in younger age groups. ating remedial measures. (b) Dutbreak~ of Meningitis occur more (iii) Introduction of modern techno- frequently in the dry and cold months of the logical aids IJk(~ ultrasonictesting year. of rails and axles, provision of track circuiting, axle-counters. (c) The Government is taking appropri- auxiliary warning system, etc., ate measures to monitor and control of the disease by detecting the Gases of Meningitis (iv) Programmed rehabilitation of and treating them with proper antibiotics rolling stock, track, signal gears, such as penicillin/Chloromphenicot etc. to bridges and other assets. reduce mortality. The Medical Officers In School Health Programme are also taking (v) Improvement tn quality of staff special care in detecting cases in school training. children. The close contacts of the con- firmed cases are being treated with de- (vi) Intensification of Safety Cam- moprophylactic agent i.e. Sulphadiazine. paigns. Antibiotics are also advocated for carriers to eradicate the carrier state. Mass chemopro- [English] phylaxis is recommended for close and medically supervised communities and Incidence of MenlngHls immunisation with Meningococcal vaccine is advisable for high risk groups in the .e" 479. SHRI BAL.ASAHEB VIKHE PA- to outbreaks. TIL: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (d) Yes. The available data show_ the Stat•• of Maharashlr.. Bihar .... Welt (a) whether dreaded disease of menln- Bengal and the UT of Delhi recordecl .... 127 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 128 number of cases compared to other States. turer of Delhi during the last two years; and

(b) if so, the details thereof? Criminal Proceedings against Spurious Drug Manufacture,. In Deihl THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 480. SHAI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (a) and (b). During the years 1986 and 1987 WELFARE be pleased to state: Drugs Control Organisation, Delhi Admini- stration Delhi has launched prosecutions in (a) whether any criminal proceedings the court against 4 personslfirms of Delhi for for manufacture of sub-standard drugs have manufacture of Sub-standard drugs. The been initiated against any drug manufac- details are as given below:

S. No. Name of Person/Firm Details

For manufacturing spuriouS! 1. MIs Mek Pharma, sub-standard Analgin A.. 10/15, Jhilmil Tablets, Sulphaguanidine Industrial Areas, Delhi. Tablets and Mandrex Tablets.

2. MIs Vijay Kumar Goel For manufacturing without XI1J257, Prakash Gali, licence spurious/sub- Teliwara, Delhi standard lodex.

3. Jai Narain Johri, For manufacturing withou~ 9564, library Road, licence spurieus/sub w Azad Market, Delhi. standard Beroline.

4. amash Kumar, For manufacturing without 100 Bharat Nagar Delhi. licence spurious/sub- standard Boroline.

ClMslcal Dance. In University Cour... (b) if so, the reasons therefor?

481. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL- DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND OPMENT be pleased to state: CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT {SHRt L.P.

University t Mysore University, Banast~ari [English]

Vidyapith, and Rabindra Bharati University f Calcutta, are offering certificate/diploma! Proposal for 8 Natlon_ll.vel m ••tlng of degree courses and research programmes Transport Minister. in classical dances. 483. SHRI P.M. SAYEEO: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be (b) Does not arise. pleased to state:

[ Translation] (a) whether Government have received a proposal from Government of Keral. to hold a national level meeting of Transport Mora Coache. to Shekhawatl Express Ministers;

482. SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Will (b) if so, the main objectives mentioned the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to in the proposal; state: (c) whether a dematld for grants from the Union Government based on the vehicle (a) whether Shekhawati Express is the population has also been suggested; and only train for the people of Jhunjhunu and Sikar to Delhi; (d) if so, the reaction of Union Govern .. ment thereto? (b) whether in view of increasing num- ber of passengers there is any proposal to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE provide more coaches to this train; MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) No, Sir. (c) if so, by what time and the number (b) to Cd). Do not arise. of coaches proposed to be added; and [ Translation] (d) if not, whether there is a proposal to start some new train to cope with the in- Ragularisatlon of C.,ual Labourers creasing traffic? 484. SHAI RAM NAGINA MISHRA: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to THE MINISTEr OF STATE OF THE state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Besides 33134 (8) the number of employees working Shekhawati Express which is a direct train as casual labour in his ~inistry at present; between Jhunjhunu/Sikar and Delhi there are two more services which provide con- (b) the number of such employee's nection between the two points at Loharu. working as casual labour who were made permanent during the latt two years; and (b to (d). Because of acute shortage of Metre GaUge coaches on Indian Railways, (c) whether it is a fL\d that no appoint- presently it is neither possible to attach more ments are being mad. in his Ministry at coaches on Shekhawati Express nor fea- present and the posts lying vacant are Ikely sible to introduce new train on the section. 131 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 132 to be filled up from the employees already (a) whether Government have listed working as casual labour and if so, the de- 250 drugs as essential drugs; tails thereof? (b) if so, the details of these drugs; and THE MINlSTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (c) whether generic names would be MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) to (c). Infor- followed while listing these drugs instead of mation is being collected from the zonal promoting formulations? Railways/production units etc. and will be laid on the Table,of the Sabha. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY [English] WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE) (a) No, Sir. Ad Hoc Appointment of Doctors In C.G.H.S. Etc. (b) Does not arise.

485. SHRI MUKUL WASNIK: Will the (c) The matter regarding use of Generic Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- names Instead of Brand Names is sub-ju- FARE be pleased to state: dice in Supreme Court. However, Govern- ment have taken a decision that for new (a) the number of doctors employed on drugs the Generic name would be exhibited ad-hoc basis in CGHS and other Central on the label in double the size of its Brand Health Services during the last one yoar; name.

(b) the number of such doctors whose Implementation of Pay Commission services were terminated; report In D.T.C.

(c) the number of Scheduled Caste and 487. SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: Will Scheduled Tribe doctors so employed and the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be terminated separately; and pleased to state:

(d) the reasons thereof? (a) whether there is great resentment among the employees of the Delhi Transport THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Corporation for non-implementation of Pay MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY Commission Report; and WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) No medical officer on ad-hoc basis has (b) if so, the time by which the recom- bean appointed either in CGHS or in Central mendations of the report are likely to be Health Service during the last one year. implemented in the D.T.C.?

(b) to (d). Does not arise in view of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE answer to part (a). MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) The OTe em- Essential Drugs ployees have been agitating for implemento· tion of the report of 4th Pay CommissIon Irl

486. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will Delhi Transport Corpor(ttion. Recently I the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMilY some untons have given a notICe of Indeflnlto WELFARE be pleased to state: strike effective from 17.3.BB. on thiS ISSUtJ. 133 Written Answers PIiALGUNA 6. 1909 (SAKA) Written Answ.rs 134

(b) Aspertheorderdatad 13thOdober, WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): 1987 of the Supreme Court on writ petitions (8) to (c). The information is being coJlected filad by two Unions of OTe workers the and will be laid on the Table of the House. revision of pay scales of DTC employees stands referred to the High Power Pay T.B. Control Programme In Tribal Committee. which had been set up by the Districts of Or Issa Government to make recommendations on the pay and allowances of employees of 489. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: Will public sector undertakings whose existing the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMIL V pay and allowances are as of Central Gov- WELFARE be pleased to state: ernment employees. The Committee has not yet submitted its report. (a) whether Tuberculosis Control Pro- gramme is under operation in different The instalments of D.A. ordered to be States as a National Programme; released, as per the order of the Supreme Court have been paid to its employees by (b) if so, whether such programme has D.T.C. within the stipulated period. been undertaken in the tribal areas in the State of Orissa; Grant Sanctioned to Voluntary Organ- Isations (c) the names of tribal districts where Tuberculosis Control Programme is now 488. SHRI K.S. RAO: Will the Minister under operation; and of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: (d) the details thereof?

(a) the details of voluntary organisa- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tions under his Ministry; MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (KUMARI SAAOJ KHAPARDE): (b) the names of voluntary organisa- (a) Yes. Sir. tions which obtained grants under the differ- ent schemes and details of grants sanc- (b) The tribal districts of Koraput. tioned during the last three years; and Mayurbhanj and Sundergarh of Orissa are covered under the National T. B. Control (c) the criteria on which the grants were Programme. sanctioned? (c) The following tribal districts are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE covered under the National T.B. Control MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY Programme:

1 2 3

1. Bihar Ranchi

2. Gujarat Dange

3. Himachal Pradesh Kinnaur

4. Madhya Pradesh Bastar. Jhubua. Mandla & Swn'hd. 135 Written Answets Fl!BaYABV 25. 1988 Written AnsW91S 136 ~

1 2 3

5. Manipur Manipur (South). (Chura Chanderpur)

6. Orissa Koraput, Mayurbhanj and Sundergarh

7. Rajasthan Banswara and Dungarpur

(d) Under the National T.B. Control lost her vision completely and the other three Programme. anti-T.B. drugs and X-ray had retained vision of counting fingers. equipments are supplied to the District T.B. Centres including those in the tribal districts. (c) No such reports have been re- ceived. Eye elln Ica operated by Quacks (d) An F.I.R. has been lodged by the 490. SHAI HAFIZ MOHO. SIDDIQ: Will State Medical Officer with the Police Station, the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Sarmathura. WELFARE be pleased to state: Cushioned seat8 In Karals bound long (a) the number of persons blinded by Distance Trains the quacks after coming into force the policy of Government on the holding of eye-camps; 491. SHRI K. MOHANDAS: Will the Mmister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) the details thereof; (a) whether there was a proposal to (c) whether to avoid holding of eye- provide cushioned seats on all long distance camps some quacks have resorted to open- trains; ing eye clinics and are blinding people in those clinics; and (b) whether the trains bound for Kerala from different cities have been provided with (d) the details of the action taken cushioned seatslberths; and against these quacks? (c) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) 4 women were reported to be blinded in MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Dholpur district of Rajasthan in February. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. 1987 by a quack. These are to be provided on a programmed basis. (b) According to the report received from the Rajasthan Government, 5 women (b) and (c). The details of the trains were treated in their house by a quack and 4 provided with this facility, under normal out of them lost their eya sight-one of them conditions. are as given below. 137 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Writtsn Answers 138 STATEMENT

Trains Provided with lind Class 3-Tisr Cushionsd Coaches

S.No. Train No. Description of train

1 2 :1

1. 19/20 Madras-Trivandrum Express

2. 47/48 Trivandrum -Cannanore Express

3. 902/901 Guwahati-Trivandrum Express

4. 903/904 Ahmedabad-Trivandrum Express

5. 937/938 Ahmedabad-Cochin Harbour Express

6. 940/939 Guwahati-Cochin Harbour Terminus

7. 956/955 Varanasi-Cochin Harbour Express

952/951 Howrah-Cochin Harbour Terminus

8. 84/82 Mangalore-Bombay Slip Coaches

81/82

9. 27/28 Madras-Mangalore Exp. coaches

10. 32131 Bangalore Slip coach

11. 911/912 Mangalore-Gorakhpur Slip coaches

12. 903/904 Mangalore-Ahmedabad Slip coach

13. 956/955 Mangalore-Varanasi Slip coach

14. 937/938 Mangalore-Ahmedabad Slip coach

15. 957/958 Mangalore-Bombay Express

16. 125/126 New Delhi-Trivandrum Kerala Express

15116 Mangalore-KeraJa Express 139 Written AnswsfS FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answ9fS 140

1 2 3

17. 41/42 Madras-Cochin Express

18. 112 Madras-Mangalore-T rivandrum Exp

2129130

19. 26/25 8angalore-Trivandrum Express.

[ Translation] In addition, 58 permits were suspended.

Complaints Against Auto .. Rlckhsaw [English] Drivers In Deihl Banaras Hindu Unlverslt) Report on 493. SHRI JAGDISH AWASTHI: Will Malnutrition the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 494. SHRI H.N. N \NJE GOWDA: Will the Minister of HUMAN AESOURCt: DE- (a) the number of complaints received VELOPMENT be pleased to state: during 1987 in respect of the auto-rickshaw drivers in Delhi; (a) whether a study has been made by the Banaras Hindu University for the Nutri- (b) the nature of most of the complaints; tion Foundation of India that mild malnutri- tion and moderate degrees of malnutrition (c) whether any action has been taken affects muscular efficiency and intellectual against the auto rickshaw drivers on those development of children; complaints; and (b) if so, whether any report was sub- (d) if so, the number of drivers prose- mitted by the Universitytothe Union Govern- cuted? ment in this regard;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) whether Government propose to MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT accept the recommendations for the welfare (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) 302 complaints of children; and were received during 1987, as reported by Directorate of Transport, Delhi Administra- (d) if so, the details of the same? tion. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) These complaints were regarding DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS misbehaviour, over-charging, and refusal to AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILO carry passengers. DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (c) & (d). Ves, Sir. 115 Three-Wheeler (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) Yes, Scooter Operators have bean prusecuted. Sir_ 141 Written Answsrs PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Wrlnen Answers 142 (b) No, Sir. (c) if so, the details of the environmental cle.arance given during the last two years to (c) and (d). Government will examine the industries in Gujarat; dnd the recommendations when received. (d) the norms adopted for giving such Experiment on Super-Conductive clearance? Tracks THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 495. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will the MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: ESTS (SHAt Z.R. ANSARI): (a) to (c). Loca- tion of new industrial units is examined from (a) whether experiment is being con- its likely air and water pollution impact. ducted on super conductive track; Environmental clearance has been given to five industrial projects in Gujarat during the (b) if so, the details thereof; last two years with the stipulation that the conditions imposed should be effectively (c) whether any break through has implemented. been achieved by any country in this regard; and (d) In addition to the standard norms stipulated by the State and Central Pollution (d) if so, the details thereof? Control Board regarding air and water pollu- tIon action plans are required on; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI - Disaster Management MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No, Sir. - Rehabilitation (b) Does not arise. - Creation of a green belt (c) and (d). The Railways are not aware of any development in the area of super - Setting up a Monitoring net-work. conductive Track. Separate Authority for calcutta Metro Environmental Clearance to Chemical Based Units 497. SHRIAMARROYPRADHAN:WiII the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to 496. SHRI R.P. GAEKWAD: Will the state: Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- ESTS be pleased to state: (a) whether Government proposetoset up a separate Authority for the management (a) whether Government had accepted of the Metro Railway in Calcutta; and in principle to decentralise the setting up of new chemical based industries as these (b) if so, th& reasons therefor? cause tremendous air and Wl.lter pollution; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (h) If so, ""hather (-Jovernment had MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI ~iven onv1Ionmental clearance during the MADHAVRAO SCINDtA): (a) A proposal to l.1.st two y(I{1JS for setting up of new chemical set up an autonomous Authority for based If dustry In Gujarat. operation ~nrl rT'Aintonance of Calcutta F~J:lRUARY 25. 1988 WrIttM Answsl8 144 Metro RaHway is under examination. [English}

(b) (1) Operation of an intra-urban Change In D.flnHlon of Death to transportation system, like the Calcutta Facilitat. Organ Transport Metro Railway, Is different from .the normal Railway functions. 499. SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (Ii) In the interest of efficiency, all WELFARE be pleased to state: modes of city transport sholJId function in an integrated manner, under a single transport (a) whether a larger body of medical authority. Setting up of Calcutta Metro ~ail­ practitioners is pressing for a change in the way Authority would be a step in that direc- definition of death to 1acil it ate organ trans- tion. port;

[ Trans/ation] (b) whether inthe West, death is a state when brain stops functioning even if the Precautions Against Baby Change heart might be beating; Incldant In Deihl Hospitals (c) whether Government have sought 498. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: the opinions of the expert medical practitio- Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY ners in this regard; and WELFARE be pleased to state: (d) if so, the 'details thereof and the (a) whether a number of incidents, of reaction 01 Government thereon? changing of babies in hospitals of Delhi often have been reported in the past few years; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY (b) whether some gangs engaged in WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): changing babies are in collusion with the (a) to (d). In the meeting of the Expert Group hospital employees; and Sub-Committee for drafting the National (Indian) Tissue Transplantation Bill conse- (c) if so, the corrective steps being quent upon the first National Workshop on taken by Government in this regard? Tissue Transplantation held on the 4th March, 1987, under the Chairman-ship of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Additional Director General of Health Serv- MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY ices (Medical) Dte. General of Health Serv- WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): ices New Delhi on 14th August. 1987. the (8) and (b). Cases of missinglkidnapping of question of definition of death including brain children have been reported. However, this death was inter-alia, discussed. For the is the first case of alleged swapping of ba- purpose of donation of vital organs to facili· bies that has come to the notice of the tate the transplantation of irrepairable dam- Government. The matter has been handed aged organs, it was desired in the meeting over to police for investigation. that if the definition of death is taken as (i) Complete cessation of respiratory and car- (c) The Directorate General of Health diac activities or complete cessation activity Services has issued guidelines on 16th of entire brain to be certified by a qualified February. 1988 to safeguard against the R.M.P. in the approved institutions. Some of pouibility of exchange of babies. the members were of the view alongwith the 145 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

Solicitor of the Ministry of Law that changing the Minister of RAILWAVS be pleased to the definition of death may arrest the prog- state: ress of framing the bill altogether. (a) whether there is a proposal to pro- The criteria used in the West is that vide video system in trains for the entertain .. death is a state when brain steps functioning ment of travelling passengers; and even if the heart might be beating. (b) if so, the details thereof? The Government has no proposal at present to change the definition of death. THE MINISTE~ OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS:(a) and (b). The Mandovl Bridge In Goa Railway administrations have been asked to explore possibilities of introducing CCTV 500. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will System in trains through private partie~ on the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be specified conditions. pleased to state: Consultation with Japan for Making (a) the progress of construction of the Special Steal New Mandovi bridge in Goa; 502. DR. B.L.SHAILESH: Will the Min- (b) the progress made so far in re· ister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to commissioning of the Old Mandovi bridge; state:

(c) whether Government propose to (a) whether Government have consid- abandon the work of repairing the old bridge; ered the desirability of placing before the Japan a proposal to use their steel making (d) if so, the reasons therefor; and technology to turn Indian are into the special steel which India at present import more or (9) if not, the time by which the repair less from diverse cources every year, in the works with respect to old bridge is gOing to be event of the Japan not being prepared to completed? come up with better prices than they offer at present for the Indian ore: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and (SHRI RAJESH PILOT):(a) About 15%. (c) whether while selling ore to Japan (b) About 8%. India will consider this proposal in view of India having enough ore deposits? (c) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) Does not anse. DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHAI YO· (e) As per contract, the work is likely to GENDRA MAKWANA):(a) to (c). The Gov- be completed by. June, 1989. ernment consider the suitability and adapta- bility of various technologies, wher(:lver they Provision of Video System In Trains are available, to Indian steel industry from time to time, keeping in view its require- 501. SHRr SHANTARAM NAIK: Will ments. At present, there is no proposal 147 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25,1988 Writtfln Answers 148 under Government's consideration to ap- Plan at Varanasi. proach Japan in connection with use of their technology regarding special steel and a tie·· (b) and (c). The U.P. Government had up with export of Indian iron ore. formulated a scheme for captive breeding of fresh water turtles and relapsing them in Cleaning of River Ganga these stretches of Ganga where their natural population has been depleted significantly in 503. DR. B.L.SHAILESH: Will the recent yea.rs due to human interference and Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- other reasons. The objective of the scheme ESTS be pleased to slate: IS to conserve this endangered specie~ and maintain the ecological balance in the river. (a) the progress made so far in cleaning The scheme is being implemented by the the river Ganga at and Varanasi Wildlife wing of the Forests Dppartment of and expendIture incurred thereon: U.P. The Government of India has agreed to provide financial assistance for this scheme (b) whether Uttar Pradesh Government to the extent of Rs. 13.5 lakhs as non- has formulated a IIturtle conservation proj- recurring expenses and 60 of the recurring ecf' under the Ganga Action Plan to curb expenses during the 7tl1 Plan under the pollution; and Ganga Action Plan. The total financial assis· tance is likely to be of the order of Rs. 34.5 (c) if so, th~ broad outlines of the lakhs for this scheme. No technical assis- technical and financial assistance which tance, however, is being provided to the tJ.P. Union Government propose to give to Uttar Govt. for this scheme. Pradesh Government in this regard? Fresh Guidelines far Eye Camps THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- 504. CH. RAM PRAKASH: Will the ESTS (SHRI Z.R.ANSARI): (a) Under the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELE- Ganga Action Plan, 19 scheme~ at a cost of FARE be pleased to state: Rs. 24.00 crores in Allahabad and 34 schemes at a cost of As. 45.77 crores in (a) whether Government have issued Varanasi respectively have been identified. fresh guidelines for eye camps as reported In Till 31 st January 1988, 15 schemes in Al- the Hindustan Times dated 29 December, lahabad and 29 schemes in Varanasi at a 1987; and cost of Rs. 1 f'.92 crores and Rs. 36.23 crores respectively have been sanctioned. (b) if so, the details thereof? Out of these, 4 schemes-3 at Varanasi and 1 at Allahabad - have already been com- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleted. MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (KUMARI SAJOJ KHAi'ARDE): Upto 31 st January, 1988. an amount of (a) and (b). Yes , Sir. The major Rs. 11.64 crores for Varanasi and Rs.5.23 recommendations of the Committee of S~Qte crores for Allahabad have been made avail- Health Ministers are given below:- able to the implementing agencies for exe- cution of the schemes. The works for inter- 1. District Co--ordination Commit- caption and diversion of waste water will be tee for control of blindness be set completed before January. 1989 at Al- up where not yet formed. They lahabad and during the Seventh Five Vear shall plan, and coordinate eye 149 Writtsn Answsrs PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written AnsWSfS 150

care services in the district. The guidelines issued earlier under Natic'nal Programma for Control of Blind- 2. The district Chief Medical Officer ness and recommendations of the Working shall exercise technical supervi- group on Control o"f Bl:ndness will remain sion on all eye camps held in the operative with the above mentioned addi- district. tions and alterations.

3. Special care shall be exercised Residential Polytechnics for Women with regard to the selection of the site of operation theater ~om­ 505. CH. RAM PRAKASH : Will the plex. Methodology of sterilisa- Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL- tion and other measures to mini- OPMENT be pleased to state: mise the risk of infection in the camps. (a) v,hether Government have consti- tuted a National Expert Committee to fincdise 4. Technical guidelines for the ac- the details of settina up residential polytech- tual conduct of the eye camp and nics for women during the Soventh Plan for the operations have been period; made more specific in order to minimise surgical complica- (b) if so, the composition oftha Commit- tions. tee and its terms of reference; and

5. All eye camps shall be organised (c) the location of these polytechnics? with the help of local Eye Sur- geons, from within the district of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE neighbouring districts of State, DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND as far as possible. Necessary CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN training be organised for the RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI local aye specialist for this pur- L.P.SHAHI) : (a) to (c). The Government pose. have set up a National Expert Committee to examine the proposals receiv£d from the 6. Arrangements for referral to State Governments /Union T e-rritories and Government hospitals shall be make recommendations for establishing made to take care of compH- residential polytE:tchnics for women including cated cases. their location. The composition of the .. Committee is give below in the Statement. 7. A code of ethics has been pre- pared forthe voluntary organi~a­ STATEMENT tions for the conduct of eye camps. To ensure better quality National Expert CommittflB for Examining services to the people orienta- ths Proposals for Establishing Residential Works~ops tion have been pro- Polyt9Chnics for Women posed for volu ntary Organisa- tions. COMPOSrrlOf1

8. Constant supervision, evalu- 1 2 3 ation and monitoring will be done 1. Dr. S.P.Luthra, Chairman to achieve better results. New Deihl 151 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25,1988 Wrm.n Answers 152 ments are located in Western Orissa. 1 2 3

2. Smt. M. Chaya Ratan, Member (b) the particulars oUhose monuments; • Director, Technical (c) the steps taken in the last three Education, Andhra years for the preservation of those monu.. Pradesh, ments; . Hyderabad (d) the amount spent on the mainte- 3. Smt. C.P. Sujaya, Member nance of those monuments in the last three Joint Secretary, ye~s (Year-wise); and Department of Women & Child Development, (e) the details thereof? Government of India, New Delhi. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 4. Dr. (Smt) Kalindi Aanderi, Member DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Principal, CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN Permlila Vithaldas Polytechnic, RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Bombay. L.P.SHAHI):(a) and (b) The following pro- tected monuments/sites are located in East- 5. Smt. Kumud Bansal, Member ern Orissa: Secretary, Education & Employment, 1) Temples of Nilamadhav and Maharashtra, Bombay Siddheswar at Gandharadi

6. Smt. Deepa Jain Singh, Member 2) Paschim Somnath and Kapi- Director! Department of laswar temples at Boudh Women & Child Development, Government of India 3) Vikramkhol rock inscription at New Delhi. Vikramkhol

7. Shri S.K.Handa, Member 4) Ancient site of Asurgarh fort at Deputy Educational Secretary Asurgarh Adviser (T), Ministry of Human Resource Development 5) Chausatti Jogini Temple and (Dopartment of Education), other .minor temples at Ranipur, Government of India Jharial New De:hi.

(c) to (9) . Besides attending to dav-to- Monuments LC"cated In Western Orissa day maintenance of these monuments, the structural repairs have been carried out to 506. OR. KRUPL\SINDHU SHOI: Wit: Chausatti Jogini Temple and Chemical the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Preservation work has been undertaken at VELOPMENT be pleased to otate: Nilamadhav and Siddheswar temples at Gandharadi. Th& expenditure incurred dur- (a) how many archaeological menu· ing the last three years is as follows:- 153 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Wriltln AnswtlS 154 new lines have been conltructed in Madhya 1984.. 85 As. 11,1741- Pradesh, during the last 20 years:-

1985-86 As. 20,193/- i) Kottavalasa-Kirandul(Partty in Madhya Pradesh) 1986 .. 87 Nil ii) Billi-Morwa (Singrauli) (Partly in [ Translation] Madhya Pradesh)

Dalll-RaJhara-Jagdalpur Railway Line iii) Kathnl - Morwa

507. SHRI KEYUR BHUSHAN: Will the iv) Guna-Maksi Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: v) Kairala Road-Jayant (Partly in (8) whether the construdion work of Madhya Pradesh) Dalli-Rajhara-Jagdalpur railway line is pro- posed to be taken on priority basis; 2. Following new lines have also been taken up far construction. (b) if so, when the work on this project is likely to start; and i) Kata-Nimach (Partly in Madhya Pradesh) (c) the reasons for delay, if any? ii) Guna-Etawah (Partly in Madhya THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Pradesh) MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) to (c). As per iii) Satna-Rewa. survey recently conduded, estimated cost of construction of Oallirajhara-JagdaJpur [English] Broad Gauge railway line (235 km) is As. 1n.37 crores. As the line, from Dallirajhara Letters from M.P•. Pending Rep.Ie •• to Rowghat, is mainly meant for movement of iron ore to Bhilai Steel Plant, Ministry of 509. SHAI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Steel & Mines has been, approached to Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT consider financing the proJect. Action to start be pleased to state: construction can only be taken after financial arrangements are finalised. (a) the number of letters received from Members of Parliament which have been Railway Line. In Madhya Pradesh pending with his Ministry for more than 12 months; 508. SHAt KEYUR SHUSHAN; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state (b) the reasons for delay in responding the names of new railway lines laid during to thase letters; and the last ten years for the development of Madhya Pradesh? (c) the steps taken to expedtt. the replies? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF TI:fE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE OF lHE MACHA VRAO SCINDIA): The following MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT '65 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Wnu.n Answets 158 (SHRI RAJESH PILOT) : (8) Nil. that direction in 1987-88; and

(b) and (c). Do not arise. (c) if not, whether any action is pro· posed to be taken in near future to revise the Revision of Royatty Rat •• of Iron Ore royalty rate of minerals like iron ore and and Mangane.. manganese etc.?

510. SHAt HARIHAR SOREN: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased DEPARTMENT OF MINES IN THE MINIS- to state: TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRt RAMANAND YADAV): (a) Yes Sir.

(a) whether Government of Orissa and (b) and (c). The rates of royalty on iron Bihar had requested his Ministry to revise ore and manganese ore have been revised the royalty rates of iron ore and manganese; with effect from 5.5.87. The old and new rates of royalty on iron ore and manganese (b) whether any step has been taken in ore are given below:-

Min9ral Old rate New rats (Per tonne) (Per tonne)

1 2 3

1. Iron:

(i) Ore lumps:

(a) with 65°/0 Fe or As. 4/- AS.S/- more

(b) with 6~/0 Fe or more but less Rs.3.00 Rs.3.S0 than 65% Fe

(c) with 600/0 Fe or more but less Rs.2.00 Rs.2.50 than 62% Fe

(d) with less than 60% Fe Rs.1.S0 Rs.2.00

til Ore fines:

(A) 11nes (Including natural fines produced incidental to mining and sizing of ore) 157 Written Answers PHALGUNA 8, 1909 (SAKA) Wrin.n Ana.. ,. 158

1 2 3

(a) with 650/0 Fe or Rs.2.50 Rs.3.S0 more

(b) with 62'% Fe or Rs.1.50 Rs.2.00 more but less than 65% Fe

(c) with less than Rs.1.00 Rs.1.S0 620/0 Fe.

(8) Concentrates prepared by beneficiation and I or Rs.O.SO Rs.O.SO concentration of low grade ore, containing 40% Fe or less than 400/0

2. Manganese are:

(a) Manganese dioxide (containing 78% or more As.30.00 Rs.4S.00 of Mno 2 and 40/0 or below Fe)

(b) 46% Mn and above As.12.00 Rs.1S.00

(c) 35% Mn and above As.7.S0 As.9.OO but below 460/0 Mn

(d) below 350/0 Mn but As.S.OO Rs.6.00 above 250/0 Mn

(e) 250/0 Mn or below Rs.2.00 Rs.2.00

Tiger Reserves THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR· 511. SHAIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) : (a) The amount Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND spent on the maintenance of tiger reserves FORESTS be pleased to state: during the last three years, under he cen- trally sponsored schema "Project Tiger· is (a) the amount spent on the mainte- given in the statement below. Fifty percent of nance of tiger reserves during the last three the amount indicated in the statement has years reserve-wise; and been provided by the Ce"tral Government.

(b) the details thereof? (b) The items undertaken under main- 159 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Writtln Answ91S 160 tanance includa(i) payment of salary and life. These do not include capital expenditure allowances (Ii) maintenance of roads, va· on the following (i) constraJdion of buildings, hicles. buildings, water holes, flrelines, tele- roads & dams; eii) purchase of vehicles, communication equipment, arms and am- laboratory & tele-communication equip- munition, research equipment and livestock; ment, arms & films and (iii) expenditure on and (iii) compensation for damage by wild- shifting of villages.

STATEMENT

Name of the Res91V9 Amount spent during

1984-85 1985--86 1986-87

1 2 3 4

BANDIPUR 21.01 24.70 11.10

CORBETT 13.60 5.90 20.10

KANHA 17.30 16.10 16.65

MANAS 20.00 6.45 35.23

MELGHAT 14.41 23.96 29.1068

PALAMAU 17.053 19.29 23.n

PERIYAR 18.327 8.16 24.85

RANTHAMBHORE 7.20 9.80 15.50

SARISKA 9.20 16.00 20.00

SIMILIPAl 14.95 13.16 18.50

SUNOERBANS 18.50 16.74 18.15

INDRAVATI 12.41 12.55 21.55

NAGARJUNASAGAR 16.25 17.95 13.92

BUXA 6.12 1.27 16.00

NAMOAPHA 19.95 5.46 13.37

TOTAL 2.26.280 1,97.49 2,85.5968 181 WrlIt." Answers PHALGUNA 8. 1909 (SAKA) Mlnera' SUrvey In Mlhar•• htra agencies after due ratifioation by CGPS.

512. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased Denudation of KO'lkan 'Forests to state: 513. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: (a) whether Government have direded Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND an extensive geological/survey and explora- FORESTS be pleased to state: tion in Maharashtra; and (a) whether despite efforts by the State (b) if so, the results thereof during the Government the forests in the backward current field period and the plan for further Konkan region of Mah_rashtra have not exploration in 1988-89 field period? been adequately protected;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether this has affected the envi- DEPARTMENT OF MINES IN THE MINIS- ronment and the climate conditions in the TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI Konkan region; and RAMANAND YADAV):(a) and (b). As a part of.,~s Annual Field Season Programme the (c) if so, what assistance is offered by Geological Survey of India undertakes Union Government to preserve and preted extensive survey and exploration in the the environment in the Konkan region? States including Maharasht .. a. The pro- gramme is prepared In consultation with the State Government authOrities in the State THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Geological Programming Board and the MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND Sub-Committees of the Central Geological FORESTS(SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) :(a) to (c). Programming Board (CGPB). The pro- The informa1ion is being collected from the gramme is finally ratified by the CGPS. State Govt. and will be placed on the Table of the House. During the Field Season Programme for 1987-88, which commenced from 1st October, 1987, systematic geological map- Foreign Exchange expenditure on ping is in progress in parts of Akola, Amra- Import of Spare parts etc. vati, Buldana, Nagpur, Sangli, Satara, 50- lapur, Wardha and Yavatmal districts. 514. P~OF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Saven items of mineral investigation are Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased also in progress, 2 each for tungsten and to state: basemental and one each for coal, mercury and molybdenum. Till December,1987 (a) whether foreign exchange expendi- about 1565 sq.km. of area has been covered ture on im~.rt of spare parts for meeting the by systematic geological mapping. Drilling requiremaf)fs of the Railways has multiplied for mercury and tungsten, and Geological about ten·fold over that Qf 1979-80; and Geochemical Surveys for basemetals are also in progress. The plan for further exploration in Field Season 1988-89 will be (b) if so, the reasons therefor alongwith formulated depending on the results yearwis. expenditure sit1C8 1979-80;and achieved as well as on the new recommen- dations of State Government and other (c) whether Railwaya propose to ravital- 183 Wrilten Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 W"".n Ans ..,. 164 ise Its Research and Development activities Wagon Manufacturing Unlta in the interest of self-reliance? 515. SHRr NARAY~ CHooBEY: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to~ MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI state: MAOHAVRAO SCINDIA):(a) No, Sir. The expenditure on import of spares on Rolling (a) the total production of Railway Stock (Including custom duty) in 1979-80 wagons in each wagon manufacturing units was As. 47.03 crores which has increased to separately during the ye.r 1987; and As. 161.16 crores in 1986-87. The increase Is expenditure on import of spares since (b) the productivity of labour and cost of 1979-80 is mainly on account of increase in production per wagon in each unit. the number of diase/electric locomotives and Electrical Multiple Units on the Indian Railways System; escalation in prices and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE adverse fludu~tion of the exchange rates. MINISTRY OF RA'~WAYS (SHAI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) The number · (b) Does not arise. of wagons manufactured by each wagon builder during 1987 (Jan.Dec'S7) is given (c) This is a continuing process. below:-

Firm Figs. in FWs.

1 2

1. Bharat Wagon & Engg.Co.Ltd. Muzaffarpur 790

2. Bharat Wagon & Engg. Co.Ltd., Mokameh. 1005

3. Braithwaite & Co. Ltd. 1347.5

4. Bum Std.Co. Ltd,.Burnpur 1662.5

5. Burn Std.Co. Ltd.,Howrah. 1125

s. Jessop 465

7. Commco ltd., Bharatpur. 2008.5

8. Hindustan Genl. Industries 920

9 Modern Industries 910

10. Texmaco Ltd. 4391.5

11. Gerald Engg. Ltd. 615 165 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Wtm.n A_went 18e

1 2

12. Rly. Workshop 416

13. Golden Rock Rly. Workshop 451

14. Samastipur Rly. Workshop 100

TOTAL 16205

(b) The information is being collected rivers; and will be placed on the table of the sabha. (b) the outcome thereof; and [ Translation] (c) the details of expenditure incurred Jobs to Widows of DTC Employees by the Union Government in containing the Died In Accidents water pollution in these rivers during the last three years? 516. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: Will the Minister of SU RFACE TRANSPORT THE MINISTER OF STATE OF llIE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) : (a) The steps (a) whether widows of the drivers, taken by the Government to contain water conductors or other employees of the Delhi pollution include the following: Transport Corporation who died in acci- dents, have not been provided jobs in the i) River.bas;n studies of 14 major Corporation so far; and rivers for determining water quality status: (b) if so, the reasons therefor? ii) Monrtoring of water quality at THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 170 monitoring stations; MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJESH PIL OT):(a) and (b). In ac- iii) Identification of water poJiuting cordance with the d. cision of DTC Board, in industries; October, 1986 the widows of all the four employees, who died in accidents since then iv) Setting up of Minimal National have been given appointments by D.T.C. Standards (MINAS) for effluent discharge; and Pollution of Rivers v) Regulatory and legal measures 517. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: under the provisions of relevant Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND Acts. FORESTS be pleased to state: (b) The outcome inc1"des the fofJowing: (a) the steps taken bV Government to contain water pollution in Ganges and other i) On the basis of the studies, and 187 Wrhten Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Writf"n Answ9rs 168 Action Plan for cleaning up the 345.9 crars saplings (1.129 ha.) for the pe- river Gang,a is now under im- riod ending December 1987. The progress plementation. was slow in some of the drought effected States viz. Gujarat, Rajasthan, Haryana. ii} Of the 4054 water polluting in- dustries identified, 2076 have Freight Target During 1987-88 set up effluent treatment plants. 519. SHRIYASHWANTRAOGADAKH iii) 1748 prosecutions have been PATIL: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be launched under the water (Pre- pleased to state: vention and Control of Pollution) Act, 1974., out of which action (a) the freight traffic of the railways has been taken as per Court's during the period from April to December, order/against 369 units. 1987 as compared to the targat;

(c) Under the Ganga Action Plan, upto (b) whether the target for the financial 31.1.88 Rs. 54.76 crores have been spent. year 1987-88 is expected to be achieved; In addition, during 1984 to 1987, Rs. 137.73 and lakhs were spent under the Central Board's programme for water quality monitoring, (c) if not, the reasons therefor? river-basin studies and setting of standards. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE [English] MINISTRY OF RAIl-WAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) 21 0.13 million Afforestation Programma tonnes of freight traffic was lifted during the period from April to December, 1987 as 518. SHRIYASHWANTRAOGADAKH compared to target of 209.20 million tonnes. PATIL: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT (b) Yes, Sir. AND FORESTS be pleased to state: (c) Does not arise. (a) the progress made upto the end of December, 1987 in the achievement of the Fire Incident at Tatanagar Railway annual target fixed for 1987-88 for affores- Station tation of wastelands; and 520. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI (b) if the achievement has not been KHAN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be made according to the target, the reasons pleased to state: therefor? (a) whether about 7 petrol tankers were THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE destroyed in a devastating fire which broke MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- out at the Tatanagar Railway Station re- ESTS (SHRI Z.R~ANSARI}:(a) and (b). The cently; and total target for afforestation programme ior the year 1987-88 was fixed as 380.7 crores (b) if so, the details thereof and the saplings, equivalentto 1.903 million hedare. outcome of the inquiry made by Government n. progress made upto end of December, in this regard? 1987 was 304~5 crore saplings equivalent to 1.522 mittton hectares against the target of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 189 Witten AMwell PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Wrilten An.... 170 MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRt ber, 1987. The Engineers of the Delhi Wate, MADHAVRAO SCINOIA): (a) Yes. Sir. Supply Undertaking and a team of doctors headed by the Municipal Health Officer, (b) At about 22.40 hrs. on 27.1.88 while Delhi Municipal Corporation and a team the Napth Special from Hatdia bound for from the National Institute of Communicable Dumetra was standing on line No.3 at Tatan- Diseases, Delhi investigated the matter. agar Railway Station, seven Naptha tank Preliminary investigations revealed that the wagons caught fire. There fire brigades were water and sewer lines laid by the D.D.A. immediately pressed into service and the fire were running close and parallel to eachothef was completely extinguished at 1.45 hrs. on with loose ferrule connections resulting in 28.1.88. probable suction of sewage into the water line resulting in the contamination of the There was no casualty. Loss to Railway drinking water supply of the area. property on account of this accident has been estimated at As. 14.2 lakhs approxi- Necessary remedial measures were mately. immediately taken by the local health au- thorities to contain the spread of the out- A departmental inquiry has been insti- break of jaundice and typhoid. A mobile tuted and its report is awaited. dispensary has been fundioning daily from 9.~0 a.m. to 4.00 p.m. since 13.11.1987. Outbreak of Jaundice and Typhoid In Adequate quantities of Gama-Globulin in- Sheikh Saral Residential Area jections have been provided and the injec- tions are being given to the contacts, preg- 522. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI nant ladies and children below 14 years of KHAN: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND age, which are considered to be vulnerable FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: groups. Typhoid injections are also being given by the EPI staff of the Corporation. (a) whether the outbreak of jaundice D.D.A authorities are making efforts to and typhoid in Sheikh Sarai residential area remove the engineering defeds in the water in Delhi recently was due to the close prox- supply system. imity of sewage and water pipe lines result· ing in suction from sewage into drinking The situation is under control and con- water; tainment measures are being continued.

(b) if so, whether the matter was enquired into and what were the findings of ( Translation] the enquiry; and Railway Lin •• In Industrially Backward (c) what are the remedial maasures Araas taken to avoid recurrence of such incidents? 523. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of RAILWAY be pleased to MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMilY state: WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) to (c). The cases of hepatitis (Jaundtce) (a) whether Government have formu- and typhoid were reported from Sheikh lated a scheme for the expansion of railway Sarai, Self Rnancing Phase I 'e' Block. • facilities on priority basis in industrially back- colony developed by COA, during Novem- ward areas; and 171 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 W""'_n Anawe,. 172

(b) if not, the poUcy of Government In (c) if so, the details thereof? this regard? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI' MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA):(a) 52 km. of rail- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) :(a) and (b). The way track between Talvadia and Khirkia criteria fixed for construction of New Rail stations have 119 bridges will be affeded by lin88, as per accepted recommendations of Indira Sagar Dam. National Transport Policy Committee, are as under: (b) and (c). Diversion of new alignment in lieu of affeded alignment is to be con .. Q Project-oriented lines to serve structed at the cost of Madhya Pradesh new industries or tap mineral Government. Its cost is estimated at ap- and other resources;. proximately Rs.1 05.44 crores.

ii) to serve as missing links which [English] can form alternative routes to relieve congestion on existing Control of Vector Borne Diseases busy rail routes; 525. SHRI SRIBALl-AV PANIGRAHI: Iii) on strategic oonsidsrations; and Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: Iv) as developmental lines to estab- lish new growth center!:; or give (a) whether any study had been made access to remote areas. regarding the percentage of population suf.. fering from vector borne diseases;

A number of new lines have been taken (b) if so, the details thereof; up as developmental lines in industrially backward areas and these are being pro- (c) the steps Government have taken to gressed according to availability of re- tackle different vector borne diseases; and sources. (d) whether Government propose to Damage to RaHway Bridges Due to have any unified programme for the control Indira Sagar Dam of various vector-borne diseases?

524. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of RAilWAYS be pleased to MiNISTRY OF HEALTH AND fAMilY state: WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE) :(a) Yes, Sir. (a) the number of railway bridges likely to be submerged as a resutt of construction (b) The percentage of population suf- of Indira Sagar Dam under the Narmada fering from the above mentioned diseases Valley Development Project; for the year 1985,1986 and 1987 (Prov.) is give in the statement below. (b) whether Government have taken any steps for the construdion of alternative (c) ThefoUowing specific measures are bridges; and being taken to contain the spread of various 173 Written AnSW8t8 PHALGUNA 8. 1909 (SAKA) wdtrln Anlwl'l 174 vectorbome diseases:- from National Malaria Eradication Pro- gramme (R), a Centrany Sponsored MAlARIA Schame.

1. Residual insecticidal spray with ap- 1. Insecticidal spray with DDT/BHe In propriate type of insecticides such as DDTI an area of 2-3 Kms. aroufld a case wherever BHClMaJathion, in areas where Annual reported. Parasite Incidenca (API) is 2 and above. 2 National Institute of Virology, 2. Regular fortnightly surveillance in . All India Institute of Hygiene & Public all malarious areas of the country to detect Haatth, Calcutta. School of Tropical Medi- fever cases, collection of blood smear and cine, Calcutta and Nattonal Institute of for presumptive treatment. Communicable DiseaS81. Delhi are in- volved in the programme for advice/diagno- 3. laboratory service at the Primary sis of cases. Health Centre for prompt examination of blood smears and administration of radical 3. BHCIDDT and Malathion are sup- treatment without any time lag. plied by NMEP for co"trol of Japanese Encephalities. 4. Distribution of anti-malaria drugs to the fever cases through Drug Distribution 4 FoggfnglUl V machines are sup- Centres and Fever Treatment Depots func- plied by NMEP to the affected States. tioning in the remote areas of the country. 5. Health education on Japan_ Encephalities has been intensified and nec- 5. Implementation of P. Falcipuram essary guidelines have been issued to an Containment Programme in P. Falciparum States/Union Territories ~ contain the dis- strain areas of the country. eaS8.

6. Intensification of health education KALAAZAR: on malaria to create public awareness. There;s no separate Plan Scheme for FILARIA control of Kala Azar. However, necessary assistance in kind is being provided from The main activity under National Filaria National Malaria Eradication Programme Control Programme is through anti-malaria (R) a Centrally Sponsored Scheme. measures which includes; (i) by minor engi- neering works such as deweeding, desilting; 1. Surveillance for early detection filling and canalisation; (ii) by spraying of and treatment of cases. stagnant water surface with Mosquite Larvi- cidal oil and other Larvicides and (ii) biologi- 2. vedor control through insedicidal cal methods by introduction of Larviverous spraying and environmental management. fish in tanks and well. Required quantity of DDT/BHe is being supplied from National Malana Eradication JAPANESE ENCEPHALITIS Programme (Rural).

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Control of Rheumatic Faver and Heart given publicity to those basic know-how Disease among the people living in both urban and rural areas in the country? 526. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE WELFARE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) whether school going children are (a) UNICEF has published a report 'The most vulnerable to rheumatic fever and State of the World's Children 1988', which rheumatic heart disease; has drawn up a basic list of health informa- tion, which it believes every family in the poor (b) whether any steps have been taken world has a right to know. A news feswr. to control these diseases among school "Family know-how" issued with tna report going children during the Seventh Five Year summarises the knowledge which should be Plan period; and provided to all families.

(c) if so, the details thereof? (b) and (c). Department of Women and Child Development has taken a number of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE measures to build a suitable information and MINISTY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- mass education base for giving publicity to FARE (KUMARI SAROJA KHAPARDE): (a) Women & Child Development Programme. School going children in the age group of 5- This includes Radio programme, short films. 15 years are vurnerable to rheumatic fever exhibitions, hoardings with child care mes- and rheumatic heart diseases. sages etc. Immunisation, which is a part of the UNICEF message on 'Family know-how' (b) and (c). During the 7th five Year has been given adequate attention under Plan, workshops are being held to train and the Universal Immunisation Programme of educate the educate the health workers, the Government of India. To place r10,. school teachers etc. The WHO collaborative stress on the programme, it has bean 'd. Centre has developed a kit for disgonise of cided to have a technology mission .on treptococal disease. The Government is Immunisation. establishing Zonal Centres in the country.

Publicity to basic Health know-how Increase In prien of SIMI Listed by Unicef 528. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- 527. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: MOOWALIA: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILV SHRI ANAND PATHAK: WELFARE be pleased to state: SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHO· WDHARY:

(c) whether Government have also (a) whether the Planning Commission considered some other measures to check has asked the Ministry of Railways to review the losses of these establishments instead its computerisation plan; and of increasing the price; (b) if so, the reasons for it and the future (d) whether it is a fact that production of plan in this regard? steal has increased in the country during the last two years; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (e) if so, its effect on cost of production MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. and the reasons for not extending the bene- fits of this increased production to the con- (b) Planning Commission has set up a sumers? committee to review the telecommunication segment of the computerised Freight THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Operations Information System. As regards DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- computerised Passenger Reservation Sys- TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI YO- tems, Planning Commission has, in the GENORA MAKWANA): (a) The average context of resource constraints, asked the price of steel has been increased by 15.6% Railways to confine the systems to the met- from 24th December, 1987. ropolitan cities.

(b) Prices were increased to cover the Further discussions with the Planning increased cost of inputs such as power, coal Commission on these issues are in prog- & fuel and railway freight. ress.

(c) Improvement in capacity utilisation. [English] productivity and techno-economic norms are recaiving special attention. National Oral HeaHh Programme

(d) Yes, Sir. 530. SHRI JAGANNATH PATNAIK: SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: (9) While improvement in the capacity SHRI P.M. SAYEEO: utilisation through increased production SHRI N.N. NANJE GOWDA: does result in cost reduction, it has not been possible to absorb fully the increased costs Will the Minister of HEALTH AND of all inputs. FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state:

[ Translation] (a) whether Govemment have recently considered a National Oral Health Pro- Review of Computerlsatlon Plan gramma and if so. the salient features thereof; 529. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- MOOWALiA: (b) whether a large percentage of child 181 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) wrm.n Answers 182 population in the country is suffering from a special scheme to provide education and teeth disease; employment opportunities to the people of the four border States of the country; (c) whether any survey has been con- ducted in this regard; (b) if so, the salient features thereof; and (d) if so, the details thereof; and (c) the amount likely to be spent on the (e) the steps Government propose to scheme during the next financial year in take to remedy the situation? these areas?

THE MINISTER OF STATE l~ THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (a) to (e). Some studies at micro-levels have RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. made attempts to determine prevalence of SHAH I): (a) to (c). The Scheme of Border dental caries and periodontal disease, co- Area Development (Education) Programme relate the various actiologicaJ factors e.g. which covers the four border States of dental plaque, sugar, oral hygiene status, Jammu & Kashmir. Punjab. Rajasthan and brushing efficiency etc .• with oral diseases. Gujarat lays emphasis on overall human But on the whole, an integrated information resource development and the strategy is of planned systematic studies on the inter- that the sections of the people who have relationship of various etiological factors remained deprived of educational and de- with dental caries and periodontal diseases velopmental opportunities receIve priority. is not available. Underthe Scheme, funds are provided to the State Governments for opening new The available data from some studies schools, providing essential facilities to indicate that nearly 90% of the children and schools, setting up of non-formal educa- 95-100% of the adults suffer from oral disor- tional centers (all for achieving universalisa- ders e.g. dental caries and periodontal dis- tion of elementary education), setting up of eases in India. In order to remedy the situ- Adult Education Centres. establishment of ation, the Government has decided to Polytechnics and ITls for making people launch a Dental Health Care Programme employable by equipping them with sound during the 7th Five Year Plan period, which technical skills and for youth programmel provides for the preventive dental health and programmes of cultural development. A care to rural population on a pilot basIs only provision of As. 35.50 crorss has been pro- through the agency of Dental Hygienists. posed for the scheme during the next finan- cial year. [ Trans/ation] [Engfish] Special scheme for Education and Employment of people of Border States Cancellation of Executive, Tea Garden, Hlmsagar and Cochln .. Ahmedabad Ex· 531. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: press Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 532. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA- (a) whether Government have initiated CHANDRAN: 183 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 WdtttJn Answers 184 Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THE pleased to state: MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (KUMA~I SAflOJ KHAPARDE): (a) whether the Executive Express to (a) to (c). There has been no paucity of funds Cannannore, Tea Garden Express, Himsa- for the AIDS Control Programme. During gar Express and Cochin-Ahmedabad Ex .. 1986-87, an amount of As. 40,00 lakhs was press have been cancelled; made available and during 1987-88" an amount of Rs. 50 lakh has been provided for (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and the programme. In addition, Indian Council of Medical Research has allocated Rs. 22 (c) whether these are likely to be re- lakhs during 1986-87 anQ Rs. 20 lakhs dur- introduced? ing 1987-88 for AIDS research.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (d) The action plan being pursued at MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRt present is prevention through public educa- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b). Yes, tion coupled with Etffectiv8 surveillance. The Sir. While Himsagar Express was cancelled government proposes to intensify public as a consequence of rationalisation of education through mass media and expan- North·South train .services from October, sion of surveillance activnies and training of 1987, the other trains have been tempo rarity workers to build up capabilities for detection, suspended due to operational reasons. diagnosis and treatment of AIDS cases.

(c) The trains will be restored/reorgani- sed in the forthcoming time table. Equity participation of SAIL In special refractories 111 Karala Inadequate Funds to control AIDS 534. SHRIINDRAJITGUPTA: Willthe 533. SHRI V. SREENIVASA Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased PRASAD: to state: SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- HIT: (a) whether Government have taken any decision on the praposed equity and Will the Minister of HEALTH AND management participation by the Steel Au- FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: thority of India Limited in Special Refracto- ries Factory at Peruman, t

(b) whether the programme has suf- fered due to paucity of funds, etc.; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MiNIS- (c) if so, the reasons for not allocating TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI YO- adequate funds; and GENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Yes, Sir.

(d) the steps Government propose to (b) It has been found feasible for SAIL take for bettf)r implementation of AIDS con- to participate in the equity and management trol programma? of Keral. Special RefraCloOes Limited. 185 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) WritttPn Answers 186 Shortage of Pig Iron (b) if so, the number of eye donors 535. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the . during the last three years; Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (c) whether the above number is adequate, if not, whether Government pro- (a) whether about six hundred foundry pose to take any measures to promote the and engineering factories of Batala in tendency of eye donation; ~nd Punjab employing over 40,000 workers face total closure due to non-availabimy of pig (d) if so, the details thereof and the iron for the last few months; number of persons benefited by eyes so donated during the last three years tift date? (b) whether any representation had been received from various associations of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE industrialists in this regard; and MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (c) if so, the details of action taken for (a) Yes, Sir. regularsupply of pig iron to these industries? (b) The number of eye donors reported THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to have pledged for eye donation after death DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- during 1984 to 1986 by Times Eye Research TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI YO- Foundation & Dr. R.P. Cantre is as under:- GENDRA MAKWANA): (a) No specific infor- mation is available about the total closure of 1. 1984 6881 foundry and engineering units in Batala due to non-availability of pig iron for the last few 2. 1985 21053 months. 3. 1986 42850 (b) Yes, Sir. A few representations have been received regarding inadequate supply (c) The number is not conSIdered of pig iron. adequate. To promote eye donation Gov- ernment has taken up a programme using (c) SAIL has been asked to take neces- mass media resources to motivate the sary action. SAIL is planning to desratch people. additional quantities of pig iron to PunjDh for (d) A fortnight on Prevention of Corneal distribution to small scale units in the State Blindness and eye donation was observed in during Februar}' - March, 1988. August, 1987 throughout the country. Printed material, Radio & T.V. spots have Persons Benefitted by Eye Eonation been prepared and distributed to the States for wide pUblicity. 1247 persons are reported [ rrnas/ation] to have been benefited by corneal grafting during the last three years. 536. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRI- PATHI: Will the Minister of HEALTH ANO [English] FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: Renovation of Lord Jagannath remple (a) whether fc;,r the last many years the tendency of donating eyes has increased; 537. SHAIMATI JAYANTf PATNAIK: 187 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Writtfln AnswBIS 188 Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE is as per Statement below. DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (c) and (dt Ves, Sir. The recommenda- (a) whether the Departmont of Ar- tions of the Expert Committee are: chaeological Survey of India is taking up conservation, preservation and mainte- i. Removal of plaster cover from nance work in the main temple of Jagannath the surface of the main temple Puri and other subsidiary shrines within the for exposing IhA sculptured sur- premises of that temple; face as well as cracks if any.

(b) if so, the specific works undertaken ii. All cracks and fissures so no- by the Department in 1986 and 1987; ticed to be grouted with epoxy resin. (c) whether suggestions have been received from the experts for better preser- iii. Corroded iro" clamps/dowels to vation of the temple; and be removed and replaced with non-corrosive copper or stain- (d) if so, the details thereof and to what less steel ones. extent these have been accepted and imple- mented? iv. The exposed stone surface be chemically treated and pre- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE served after removing the ef- DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND fects of salinity. CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. These have been accepted and the SHAHI): (a) and (b1. Yes. Sir. The work done work is in progress. 189 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Wrltt.n Answers 190

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-.: (J) 191 Wrllten An.wn FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Wl'llfln An.well 192 . Maintenance of Natlona. Highway. (d) Considering the deficiencies on the NH System, efforts are made to seek alloca- 538. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- tions as perth. norms. However, because of NAIK: overall resource constraints, funds, as SH~I VLJAY N. PAnL: needed, ara not available. While submitting SHRI BAN WAR I LAL PURO- the absd-act particulars ot maintenance, the HIT: States are advised to sffed maximum econ- SHRI M.V. CHAN- omy, rationalise mainteflance operations DRASEKHARA MUR- and ensure renewal of lurt8Ce before the THY: onset of monsoons to minimise damage due SHRr BALASAHEB VIKHE to rains. Manuals for maintenance of roads PATIL: and bridges, prepared by the Indian Road SHRI MUKUL WASNIK: Congress, have been circulated to the SHRI VISHNU MODI: States. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Monuments of WQrld Heritage

Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT 539. SHRIMATI JJ\ YANTI PATNAIK: be pleased to state: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (a) whether Government are aware of the poor condition of National Highways (a) whether Union Government have including bridges thereon; sought "World Heritage" status for some ancient monuments; (b) whether due to poor condition of National Highways there is excessive fuel (b) if so, the names and the number of oonsumption and increasing accidents; those monuments; .

(c) if so, the cost the country has to bear (c) the location thereof; and every year as a result thereof; and (d) the details of tt,e assistance ren· (d) the details of the steps taken and dered by UNESCO in thi, regard? guidelines issued to States for proper main- tenance of National Highways and bridges THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE thereon? DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHAt L.P. THE MINISTER OF SrATE OF THE SHAHI): (a) Yes, Sir. MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) The Govern- (b) and (c). Thirteen monuments of ment is aware that certain sections of Na- outstanding universal value have beftn in- tional Highways and some bridges are not to scribed on the World Heritage list (WHL). the National Highway standard. These are - (1) Ajanta Caves; (2) Ellars Caves; (3) Agra Fort; (4) Taj Mahal. (5) The (b) Yes, Sir. Sun Temple at Konarak; (6) Mahabalipuram group of monuments; (7) Churches and (c) About Rs. 650 erOf.S by w~ of extra Convents of Goa; (8) t(hajuraho monu- fU8' consumption and wear and tear. ments; (9) Hampi Monuments; (10) 193 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA)

Fatahpur Sikri; (11) Elephanta Caves plea~ed to state: (Bombay); (12) Pattadakal monuments (Karnataka) and (13) Brihadisvara temple at (8) whether the prJ~s of aluminium, Tanjore (Tamilnadu). copper, brass, nickle and steel have been raised recently; Twelve more MonumentslSites await inclusion. They are-(1) Red Fort, Delhi; (2) (b) whether such a move has adversely Humayun's Tomb, Delhi; (3) Qutb Minar, affeded the small scale it'ldustry; Delhi; (4) Excavated remains at Lot~al, Gujarat; (5) Martand temple, Jammu & (c) whether the small scale industrial- Kashmir; (6) Gol Gumbaz at Bijapur; (7) ists have represented to Government for Monuments at Aihole, Karnataka; (8) Caves reconsidering the decision; and at Karala, Maharashtra; (9) Chittorgard Fort and monuments, Chittargarh; (10) Exca- (d) if SO, the reaction of Government vated remains at Kalibangan; (11) Akbar's thereto? Tomb, Sikandara, Agra and (12) Itimadud Daula Tomb, Agra. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF MINES IN THE MINIS- (d) Unesco assistance in the form of TRY OF SrEEL AND MINES (SHAt experts advice was sought in connection RAMANAND YADAV): (.) Yes, Sir. with conservation of Sun Temp'e, Konarak and Taj Mahal Agra as indicated below; (b) No data is available to make any assessment. Sun Temple Konarak (c) and (d). Some representations were The Unesco experts have undertaken a rec~ived. Keeping in view overall interest of study of the effect of salt-laden winds on the the economy, the import duty on copper was monument and the sculptures and sug- reduced from 140 percent ad valorem to 95 gested measures for their conservation. percent ad valorem With effect from 30.12.1987. Taj Mahal Agra Legl81atJon to remove kidney. of per- The Unesco experts have studied the sons me.tlng f.tllaccldent. effects of air pollution including petrological studies on marble and ~ lnd stone and also 542. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH structural conservatio' I and suggested MALIK: measures for preservatlun. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: SHAI SUBHASH YADAV: Incresse In prices of Aluminium, SHRI MANIt< REDDY: Copper, Brass, Nickle and Steel W.iII the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMllV 540. SHAI DHARAM PAL SINGH WELFARE be pleased to state: MALIK. SHAI M. RAGHUMA REDDY; (a) whether Government of Singapore SHAI SUBHASH YADAV: has allowed the removal of kidney of per- SHRI MANIK REDDY: sons meeting fatal accidents recently;

Will the Minister of STeEL AND MINES be (b) whether Union Governments pro- 195 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Wnu,n Answers 198 pose to enact such a legislation to enable the stated that the radiogrlPhers working in doctors to remove kidneys of the persons hospitals under Delhi Administration had meeting tatal accidents to benefit the kidney gone on72 hours strike il'\ December, 1987. patients in the country; and The demand for which they went on strike is for restoration of parity of their revised pay (c) if not, the reasons thereof? scales vis-a-vis pay scales of radiographers working in Central Gover"ment Hospitals in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Delhi. MINISTRV OF HEALTH & FAMILV WEL- FARE: (KUMAhl SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) A CommtHee constituted by the Ministry Yes, it is a fact that Singapore Government of Home Affairs to consider anomalies in has allowed the removal of kidney of per- revised pay scales of certain categories of sons meeting fatal accidents, recently. staff working under Delhi Administration including those of radiographers, vis-a-vis (b) The Ministry of Hea~h & Family the scale of pay of such categories working Welfare in consultation with the State n Cef'~~,-;I Government Hospitals, submitted Governments and other concerned organ- tts rc'p,.rt it) ihf:' (~')vernment of India (Minis- isations tS contemplating legislation on Or- try ot Flr.~nce I 1 il:) deCISion of the Govern- gan Transplantation. ment is awaited

(c) Does not arise. Implementation of Package of Benefits for Doctors Strike by Radiographers In Deihl 544. SHRI T. BALA GOUD: Will the 543. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: Will Minister of HEALTH AND FAMflY WEL- the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMilY FARE be pleased to state: WELFARE be pleased to state: (a) whether Government had approved (a) whether the radiographers working a package of benefits for the Central Gov- in hospitals in Delhi under the Central ernment Doctors on 30 July, 1987 for imme- Government's Administration had gone on diate implementation; 72 hours strike till 31 December, 1987; (b) what were their mflin demands; and (b) if so, whether it has been imple- mented in full; (c) Government's decision thereon? (c) if not, the reasol'ls for the delay; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY (d) what further time Government WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): would need to fully implement those bene- (a) to (c). There are three Central Govern- fits; and ment Hospitals in Delhi viz. Dr. Ram Ma- nohar l ollia Hospital, Safdarjang Hospital (8) whether Government propose to and Smt Sucheta Kripalini Hospital includ- give retrospective effect, specially in cases ing Kalavatl Saran Child,en's Hospital. No of promotions which have been delayed due strike of R~ldlographers has been reported to no fault of the serving dodors? from any (II ·he above hospitals. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The Delhi Administration has however MINISTRY OF HEALTtt AND FAMILY 197 WrItten Answe,. PHALGUNA 8, 1909 (SAKA) WritttPn Ant.. ,. 198

WELFARE (KUMARISAROJKHAPARDE): of the Fourth Central Pay (8) Yes. Sir. Commission).

(b) to (d). It is difficult to indicate the time (viii) Necessary orders for placement limit for fulty implementing the package of Specialists (Rs. 3000.. 5000) in benefits. The action taken to Implement the the newly introduced scale of As. provisions of package offered to the striking 3700-500 aftar 5 years of service doctors is indicated below: are expected to be issued shortly. Acliorl has also been (i) Orders relating to Non-Practis- initiated for placement of officers ing Allowance and Conveyance in the scale of As. 4500-5700 Allowance have been issued. after 9 years of servi09 in Spe- cialist Grade-II. (ii) Orders relating to Annual Allow- ance are expected to be issued (ix) Action has also been in~;ated for soon. placement of Associate Profes- sors after six years of service in (iii) Promotion orders of 478 Medical the scale of Rs. 4500·5700 on Officers who have completed 5 the basis of sen iority-cu m-fit- years of service have already ness. Orders will be issued after been issued. completing the necessary for- malities. (iv) Inter-d~partmental Committee has been set up to look into the (x) Demands for higher start and cadre structure of Central Health three time bound promotions are SerVice, Railway Medical Serv- being examined in consultation ice and medical posts under with the Ministry of Finance and Central Police Organisations. Oeptt. of Personnel. After know- The Committee has almost con- ing their views, the matter is cluded ~s work and its report is proposed to be referred for con- likely to be finalised shortly. sideration of Group of Ministers.

(v) Posts of Senior Medical Officers (e) The benefits of N.P.A. are effective to be upgraded as Chief Medical from 1.1.1986. Conveyance allowance to Officers have been identified. staff who are already eligible is from Promotion orders ara expected 1.10.1986 and for new categories of staff, to be issued shortly. from 1.7.1987. It was made clear in the package offered that all the promotions will (vi) 18 Assistant Professors with 3 be with prospective effect. years of service as Assistant Professor have already been promoted as Associate Profes- Criteria for Introduction of New Trains sors. 545. SHRI T. BALA GOUD: Will the (vii) 35 posts in SuperttmO Grade Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: have bean created (25 as a re- sult of package benefits and 10 (a) the criteria adopted for introduction as a result of recommendations of new trains on existing routes; and 199 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Written Answ911 200 (b) whether public demand is also taken foreign Exchange R...... d for Treat- into consideration while arriving at such ment of D...... Abroad decisions? 547. SHRI T. BALA GOUD: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE FARE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) The require- (a) the number of patients and the ments of traffic, adequacy of the available names of the diseases for which the patients facilities, availability of railway inputs and the were allowed to have their treatment abroad developmental needs of the area are the year·wise during the last three years; and main criteria. (b) the amount of foreign exchange (b) Yes, Sir. released for each patient?

Formation of Asian Circuit to Hold THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Athletic Me.ts MINISTRY OF HEALTt-I AND FAMILY WELF.ARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): 546. SHRI T. BALA GOUD: Will the (a) and (b). The numberof persons who went Minister HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOP- abroad for medical treatment and the MENT be pleased to state: amount of foreign exchange released to them during the last three years is given _ (a) whethet Government propose to below:- form an Asian circuit with other countries in order to hold regular athletic meets over a period of four to six weeks before the start of Year Number of Foreign Exchange major championships; and persons Ae/eased (Rs. in /akhs)

(b) if ~o I the details thereof? 1984-85 621 730.96

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1985-86 800 1008.23 DEPARMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD DE- 1986-87 1075 1635.43 VELOPMENT (SHRIMATI MARGRET ALVA): (a) and (b). Amateur Athletic Federa- tion of India, the Apex body of Athletics, in April to the country, had suggested to the members July 1987 561 647.70 of the Asian Countries to form an Asian Circuit to hold regular Athletic Meet to im- prove the standard of Asian players. For this The information relating to the names of an International Athletic Permit Meet has persons alongwith nature of diseases and been approved by the International Amateur the amount of foreign exchange related for Athletic Federation to be hosted in New each patient, is not readily available. The Delhi in September, 1988. Discussions with eff9rts involved in collecting this information Asian Countries are still on for holding simi- would not be oommensurata with the results lar Meets in their Countries to form a Circuit. to be achieved. 201 Wrinen Answenl PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Writt." AIls...,. 202

Subsldl•• and Re.lef to Indian Ship- far this has ranged between 15% to 40% yard. higher than the lowest International price.

548. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the Cd) The existing pricing policy is based Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be on the International Parity Price (IPP) which pleased to state: is an average of three valuations obtained from approved international valuers from (a) the number of shipyards which are three different parts of the world. The Indian without orders for building naval and com- shipyards receive subsidy to the extent of mercial vessels; 300/0 of the IPP; 100/0 of IPP being contrib- uted by the shipowner aFld 20% is given by (b) whether shipowners continue to rely the Government. The Bureau of Industrial upon foreign builders for their fleet of mer- Costs & Prices have suggested a revision of chant vessels; the above measures.

(c) the extent of lower costs of foreign Reduction In fare on KhandwI·Hlngoll vessels as compared to Indian built vessels Section on S.C. Railway which are responsible for poor orders on Indian shipyards; and 549. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (d) the details of the proposals to pro· vide subsidies and substantial relief to In· (a) whether any representations have dian ship builders? been received from passengers and the general public to reduce ttle passenger fare THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE from Rs. 1.33 to Re. 1.00 per kilometer on MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT chargeable kilometers Oil Khandwa-Hingoli (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) There are four section in the South Central Zone; and public sector shipyards under the adminls· trative control of this Ministry and three (b) if so, the action taken by Govern- public sector shipyards under the adminis- ment to bring it at par with the fares on such trative control of Ministry of Defence. All of other times? them are having orders for building Naval andlor Com mercial vessels at present. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) Yes. MINISTRY OF RAilWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) The actual cost of production of ships in the, foreign-yards are not available. (b) With affect from 1.4.1987, the infla- However, the pri~e at which such ships are tion in distance for charge for passenger available in the International market are fares on Khandwa-Hingoli section has been lower than the price to be paid by a withdrawn and the passenger fares are shipowner for purchasing an indigenously being chargl?d on the basis of actual diS- bUilt ship fhe extent of additional price paid tance. or to be paid by an Indian shipping company to an Indian shipyard may very widely de- Converalon of Adllsbad-Mudkhed pending on the type and size of ship and the Section prevailing International price at the time of placing such orders on Indian shipyards. So 550. SHRI UTIAM ~THOD: Will the 203 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Wnn-n AnSwelS 204

Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state~ ESTS be pleased to state:

(a) whether a road-cum-traffic survey of (a) whether 'the National Wasteland Adilabad-Mudkhed section in South Centra) Development Board is giving maximum Railway was carried out with the intention of importance to afforestation programme; converting the section to broad gauge; and (b) if so, the amount spent by different (b) if so, the ou1come there of and the State Governments on wasteland develop- funds allocated for this project for the year ment in last three years; 1987-881 (c) the resources made available to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE different State Governments in these years MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI to implement the programmes; and MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) A survey for conversion of Adilabad-Mudkhed-Parbhani (d) the details thereof? MG Section into BG was carried out. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) Cost of the project was estimated at MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- Rs. 80.49 crores. The project has been ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) Yes, Sir. approved but not yet commenced. Only a taken anotment of Rs. 1000 has been made (b) The amount spent during 1985-86 for this project for 1987-88. and 1986-87 State-wise on afforestation is given in Statement-I below.

Wasteland Development (c) and (d). The financial allocations for afforestation programme of the State Gov- 551. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: Will ernment for three years Including 1987-88 the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- are given in statement-II below.

STATEMENT-I

Stats-wise Progress of Expenditure of all Afforestation during 1~85-86 andjiJ86-87

Financial: (Rs. in /akhs)

SI. No. StatelU. Ts. 1985-86 1986-87

1 2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 2,538.01 3,290.56

2. Assam 1,564.77 1.799.93

3. Bihar 3.129.01 4.048.92

4. Gujarat 2,280.81 2,936.94 205 Written AnsW61S PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Writt.n AM"'" 208

1 2 3 4

5. Haryana 1,316.62 1.327.34

6. Himachal Pradesh 1,232.99 1.637.53

7. Jammu & Kashmir 659.39 843.56

8. Karnataka 2,276.37 2,076.83

9. Kerala 1,528.40 1,717.50

10. Madhya Pradesh 3,234.95 4.279.89

11. Maharashtra 2,896.82 4.032.69

12. Manipur 224.25 249.40

13. Meghalaya 522.48 521.88

14 Nagaland 351.14 401.96

15 Orissa 1,536.06 1,985.50

16. Punjab 747.56 853.40

17. Rajasthan 1,545.99 2,892.17

18. Sikktm 182.98 188.78

19. Tamil Nadu 2,738.96 3,243.10

20. Tnpura 389.91 416.90

21. Uttar Pradesh 3,659.33 6,443.28

22. West Bengal 2,135.46 2,574.08

23. A & N Islands 136.60 122.00

24. Arunachal Pradesh 374.60 399.00

25. Chandigarh 28.60 23.25

26. D.N. Haveti 56.80 48.50

27. Delhi 57.90 80.75 207 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answe/S 208

1 2 3 4

28. Goa, Daman, Diu 106.70 114.50

29. Mizoram 368.36 537.59

30. Pondicherry 22.60 31.00

31. Lakshadweep 3.60 4.25

All India Total 37,848.02 49,120.98

STATEMENT.. II

Allocation of funds for Afforestation

(Rs. in lakhs)

5/. No. StatB/Urs. A/location

1985-86 1986-87 1987-88

1 2 3 4 5

1. Andhra Pradesh 3240 3127 3022.70

2. Assam 1397 1826 1784.50

3. Bihar 1907 3738 3281.00

4. Gujarat 2105 2855 2859.25

5. Haryana 1184 1197 1460.80

6. Himachal Pradesh 1228 1704 1919.50

7. Jammu & K;1shmlr 581 851 970.25

8. Karnataka 1749 1935 2085.00

9. Kerala 1169 1765 1812.75

10. Madhya Pradesh 2511 4139 4238.25

11. Maharashtra 2137 3699 3663.55

12. Mantpur 217 260 306.50 209 Written Answ... PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Wrnt.n Answers 210

1 2 3 4 5

13. Meg hal aya 502 570 670.75

14. Nagaland 351 397 519.00

15. Orissa 1332 1994 2416.45

16. Punjab 836 743 851.00

17. Rajasthan 8770 1574 2741.75

18. Sikkim 183 202 228.25

19. Tamil Nadu 2514 3283 3143.25

20. Tripura 390 448 434.50

21. Uttar Pradesh 3807 6257 6191.00

22. West Bengal 1400 2385 2228.20

23. A & N Islands 130 122 143.50

24. Arunachal Pradesh 370 440 438.00

25. Chandigarh 27 23 24.35

26. Delhi 67 85 113.80

27. D. & N. Haveli 54 48 68.25

28. Goa, Daman, Diu 109 121 139.65

29. Lakshadweep 4 4 4.75

30. Mizoram 362 512 527.50

31. Pondicherry 21 31 38.50

Total 32754 46333 48326.50

-Include forestry and rural Development GChemes. 211 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 WrittfJn AnswelS 212 Acute Accommodation Problem In MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Deihl University C8mpu. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No, Sir.

552. DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI: Will (b)and (c). Survey. were separately the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- carried out for Dantewara-Bhadrachalam VELOPMENT be pleased to state: Road (1964-65) and Bhadrachalam Road- Kowur (1965-66) Rail lines. Cost of con .. (a) whether Government are aware of struction was estimated as Rs. 31.72 crores the acute accommodation problem in the at the then prevailing prices. Delhi University campus; and Profit and Loss Figure. of Steel Plants (b) if so, the details of the steps pro- posed to be taken to provide adequate hos- 554. SHRI BHA ITAM SRIRAMAMUR .. tel facilities for Delhi University students? THY: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (a) whether the profits of the Steel CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF OF Authority of India Limited have nose-dived HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT during the year 1986-87; (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) and (b). The total number of seats available in the students (b) if so, the comparative figures of hostels on the Delhi University Campus is profit and loss during the last three years; 990 only. The demand for hostel accommo- dation is much higher. The U.G.C. has (c) the prof!t and lOIs figures of Steel agreed to provide grant to the University for Authority of India Limited plant-wise during construdion of a 100-seated hostel for boys 1986-87 together with the reasons for the in the Seventh Plan, and an extension of the losses-; and woman's hostel to acoommodate 100 more students. (d) what are the production figures of saleable steel in all the steel plants during Klrandul·Kovvur Railway Line the last three years?

553. SHRI BHATIAM SRIRAMA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MURTY: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- pleased to state: TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI YO- GENDRA MAKWANA): (a) and (b). SAIL (a) whether Government propose to lay earned a profit of Rs. 52.81 crores during the a new railway line from Kirandul in Madhya financial year 1986-87. The comparative Pradesh to Kovvur for transportation of Iron figures of profit and loss during the last three Ore to Kakinada Port; years are:

(b) whether survey has been conducted ( RsJcrores) for the same; and 1984-85 4.24 (c) if 80, the expenditure invol"ed and when the work is likety to be undertaken? 1985-86 159.00

THE"MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) The Plant-wise profit and loss during 213 Written Answers PHALGUNA 8, 1909 (SAKA) WdtMn AMMJ" 214 1986-87 was: Comput.l_tlon of Pesaenger Re_r- vatlona (RS.lCfOf9S) 555. SHAI MOHANBHAI PATEL: ProfiVLoss (-) SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA:

Bhilai Steel Plant (-) 38.67 Will the Ministerof RAilWAYSbeple8sedto state: Durgapur Steel Plant (-) 22.46 (a) the names of tha cities which have Rourkela Steel Plant 11.13 been ooveFed so far by computerised pas- senger reservation system; and Bokaro Steel Plant 125.17 (b) the names of the cities likely to be Alloy Steels Plant (-) 25.72 covered by the end of 1988?

Salem Steel Plant 2.92 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ll-iE MINISTRY OF RAIl-WAYS (SHRI Other/Adjustments 0.44 MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Computerisa- tion of passenger reservation system has SAil 52.81 been completed at Delhi and Calcutta, and is in advanced stages of completion in Bom- The main reasons for losses, during 1986- bay and Madras. 87 were :- (b) Computerised reservations ere (i) Increase in the prices of inputs scheduled to be provided at l ucknow, particularly of coal, power and Ahmedabad, Secunderabad, Bhopal ana ferro-alloys and Railway freight; Ba:1gaiore during 1988-89.

(ii) Non-availability of adequate power; and Electrification of Deihl-Bombay .nd Bombay-Howrah R.llway Lin•• (iii) l.ow capacity utilisation. 556. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: (d) The production of saleable staal at SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: SAil (including liSCO) steel plants during SHRI H.N. ~E GOWDA: the last thre9 years was: Will the Minister of RAilWA YS be pleased to state: ('000 tannes) (a) whether it is a fact that Bombay- Production Delhi rail lin. has been electrified;

1984-85 5283 (b) if so, how much money has boen spent on this lin.; 6004 (c) whether It has been opened for 1986-87 6312 traffic; 215 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answets 216 (d) if not. when it will be opened for (a) the number af Primary Health traffic particularly for passenger traffic; and Centres opened in ~aryana during the last three years, year-wise; .nd (e) by when Bombay-Howrah rail line will be electrified and opened for traffic? (b) the names of places where such centres were opened? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. Elec- MINISTRY OF HEALTtt AND FAMILY trification of Bombay-Delhi section via West- WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): ern Railway route has been completed. (a) 122 Primary Health Centres are reported to have been opened in Haryana State dur- (b) Rs. 305.40 crores excluding Born· ing the last three years and year-wise break- bay Central-Virar section which was electri- up is as under:- fied before independence.

(c) Yes, Sir. 1985-86 78

(d) Does not arise. 1986-87 43

(e) Electrification of Bombay-Howrah 1987-88 1 section is expected to be completed by (Upto 31.1.1988) March 1990. ~22 Primary Health Centres In Haryana (b) A list containing the nam as of places 557. CH. RAM PRAKASH: Will the where Primary Health Centres were opened Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- during the last three years upto 31.1.1988 is FARE be pleased to state: given in the statement below.

STATEMENT

List of Pld.~s where Primary Health Centres were opened during Last Three Years upto 31.1.1988

District Ambala

1985-86 1986-87 1987-88

1 2 3

1. Morni 1. Noorpur

2. Kot 2. Kalanaur

3. Panchkula 3. Naggal 217 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 218

1 2 3

4. Barara

5. Kalka

District Bhlwanl

6. Bshal 4. Manheru

7. Sui 5. Santokhpura

8. Dinond 6. Chhapar

9. Pur 7. Tosham

10. Barwa 8. Biran

9. Alakhpura

10. Achina

District Faridabad

11. Hathin 11. Mohna ,. ChhajiUnagar

12. Punhera 12. Alawalpur

13. Soleh.a 13. DhauJ

14. Tappa-Bilochpur

15. Nangal Jat

16. Hodel

District Gurgaon

17. Bhangrola 14. Mandpura

18. Tauru 15. Tigaon

19. Biwan

20. Ujina

21. Kasan . 219 Written Answers . FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Wdaen AnsweB 220

1 2 3

22. Nuh

23. Ferozepur Jhirka

District Hissar

24. Talwandi Rukka 16. Bangroan

25. Samain 17. Datta

26. Hassangarh 18. Pirthala

27. Gurana 19. Kullan

28. Kaomari 20. Nehla

29. Bothsn Kalan 21. Deulatpur

30. 8adopal

31. Agroha

32. Jhalnia

33. Kajlan

34. Birdhana

35. Mohamadpur Rohi

36. Dob;

37. Gawar

38. Uklana

District Jind

39. Chhattar 22. Jai Jai Wanti

40. Balu

41. Uchana

42. Dhamtan Sahib 221 Wrllten Answen PHALGUNA 8, 1900 (SAKA) WtIttM AM.. " 222

1 2 3

43. Safidon

District Kamal

44. Madhuban 23. Kutail

45. Jundla

46. Kunjpura

47. Kachhwa

48. Nigdhu

49. Uplana

District Kurukshstra

50. Alhar 24. Thaska Miranjl

51. Ladwa 25. Habri

52. Pundri 26. Keorak

53. Dhand 27. Pai

54. Ram Saran MajralBhain

District Mohindergarh

55. Mirpur 28. Sehma

56. Bhojwas 29. Tankri

57. Dahina Jainabad 30. Bayal

58. Dharuhera 31. Strohl Bihali

59. Antri 32. Bassdoda

60. Mohinciergarh

District RohtaJc

81. Meham 33. Bhalaut 223 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Wrltt.n Answers 224

1 2 3

62. Kosli 34. Birohar

63. Machhrauli 35. Gurawar

64. Chhudani 36. Bhambhewa

65. Sang hi

66. Kalanaur

67. Jhajjar

District Sonepat

68. Barh-Khalsa 37. Purkhas

69. Murthal 38. Moi Majri

70. Buttana 39. Lath

71. Dubeta

72. Bidhlana

73. Buttana Zafrabad

District Sirsa

74. Panihari 40. Darba Kalan

75. Nathusari Chopta 41. Darbi

76. Rori 42. Mandi Dabwali

'17. Kalawali 43. Kharia

78. Ellanabad

Integrated Education for Disabled (a) the estimated number of disabled or Children handicapped childr&n;

558. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will (b) the .1umber of luch children who the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- shall be covered under the Integrated Edu- VELOPMENT be pfeased to state: cation of Disabled Programme; and 225 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA)

(c) the steps taken for training teachers [ Translation] as well as publishing training manuals for teaching such children? Amount Spent on Development of CuHural Place. In Bihar

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 559. SHRt KALI PRASAD PANDEY: DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF THE DEVELOPMENT be ple~sed to state: HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI loP. SHAHI): (a) According to a sur- (a) the detajls of the amount spent vey conducted by the National Sample Sur- during the last 2 years on the maintenance vey Organisation in 1981, there were 2.6 and development of cultural and historical million disabled children in the age group of places/monuments etc. in Bihar; and 5-14 years. In addition, there are estimated to be about 1.7 million mentally retarded (b) the pJaces in Bihar where special children in the above age group. steps have been taken by Government dur- ing the current year for Iheir development and maintenance? (b) According to the National Policy on Education, 1986, children suffering from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE motor and other mild handicaps are to be DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND covered under integrated education pro- CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN gramme. Progressively more and more such RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. children would be brought under the pro- SHAHI): (a) During the last two years i.e. gramme of integrated education but no firm 1985-86 and 1986-87 an amount of As. targets have been fixed. 8,60,000/- and Rs. 23,28,000/- respectively has been spentforday-to-day maintenance, structural repairs. chemical treatment and (c) The University Grants Commission horticultural operations on and around has so far established special education monuments/sites protected by Archaeologi- units in 9 University Departments of Educa- cal Survey of India. tion/Colleges of Education, and efforts are being made to set up these facilities in 16 (b) Among the important places where Universities/Colleges by 1990. The National special preservation works are being carried Institutes for the handicapped and their out during the current financial year are regional training centres under the Ministry detailed below: of Weltare are also running various types of teachers training programmes. Besides, some voluntary organisations are also run- i. Excavated remains, Antichak. ning same programmes. The NCERT and the National Institutes for the handicapped iL Tomb of Sher, Shah, Sasaram. have published a number of handbooks, teachers' manuals and source-books for training teachers of the handicapped chil- iii. Bimbisar Jail, Rajgir. dren. Preparation of training and instruc- tional materials for teaching the disabled iv. Ancient remains, NaJanda. children is a continuing programme in the NCERT. v. Stupa at Nandangarh. 227 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 W""n AnswelS 228 Illegal Felling of Tr... version project win depend on the availability of resources in the coming years. The prog-

560. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: rass is, however I commensurate with the Wdl the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND allocation of funds. FOAESTS be pleased to stata: (c) Planning Commission has been (8) whether environment mainly de- requested to provide adequate funds for pends upon protection of trees; gauge conversions in the Railways' Annual Plans. (b) the number of trees felled State- wic;s during the last three years; and (English]

(c) the number of persons/officers ar- Vocational Facilities In Schools rested and convicted for felling trees, State- I wise during the said period? 562. SHRI NARSING SURYAWAN- SHI: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOft- state: ESTS (SHRt Z.R. ANSARI): (a) Protection of trees is one of the important factors. upon (a) whether a substantially funded which the environment depends. Centralty sponsored scheme is being launched from the currenl academic year to (b) and (c). The details are being col- equip 5,000 schools with vocational facili .. lected from the State Governments and will ties; and be placed on the Table of the House. (b) if so. the salient features of this Construction of Bhatnl-Varanasl scheme? Railway Line THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 561. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCAT~N AND Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN state: RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) A Centrally-sponsored scheme (a) the time by which the construction of Vocationalisation of Secondary Educa- work of Bhatni-Varanasi broad gauge rail- tion has been started from the current finan- way line is likely to be completed and when cial year under which it is proposed to intro- the trains would start on this route; duce vocational courses in 5000 schools by 1990 subject to availability of adequate fi- (b) whether the delay in completion of nancial resources. this project is due to paucity of funds; and (b) The salient features of the scheme (c) if so, the steps taken by Government are creation of a .uit~ management

In this regard? structure at ceotralt state, distrid and institu- tional levels; carrying out District Vocational THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Surveys for assessm..,t of manpower MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI needs and formulation of appropriate voca- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): {a> and (b). tional cours ••; provision, of necessary Completion of Bhatni .. Varanasi gauge con .. equipment and facilities itt schools; develop- 228 WItten Answers PHALGUNA 6. 1909 (SAKAl Wdlen Anstw" 230 ment of curricula, instructional materiala and issued revised guidallne tor mini atH' plants textbooks; opportunities for practical train- In the country; ing to students; training of teachers; modifi- cation of recruitment rules to facilitate em· (b) if so, the details thereof; ployment of students passing out of voca- tional courses; apprenticeship facil~ies for (c) to what extent the mini steel plants vocational students; ate. have been permitted by Government to expand their production capacity; and Equipment for TI ••U8 Cultur. Study (d) whether the mini steel plants are 563. SHRI NARSINGH SURYAWA,N- likely to achieve the target? SHI: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE- SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lliE state: DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRf YO- (a) whether British Deputy High GENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Yes, Sir. Commissioner in Southern India handed over equipment for tissue culture study (b) and (c). Relevant extracts from the given by the aDA to the 100,000 pound Ministry of Industry, Department of Industrial project; and Development, Press Not. No. 4 (1988 Se- ries) is given below in the statement. (b) if so, the details of the project? (d) No specific target .of production for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mini steel pl.,ts has bee" laid down. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN STATEMENT RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRr loP. SHAH I): (a) and (b). The British Deputy High Extracts from Press Note No.4 (1988 Commissioner Mr. David Sprague handed Seri9S) over equipments worth about 100,000 pounds given by the Overseas Development SUbject: Guidelines for Steel Industry. Administration (ODA) to the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore for the Indo-UK Col- The eXisting guidelines for allowing laborative Project on "Inborn Errors of Me- steel capacity were last drawn up in 1982 tabolism-, the British collaborating institution and those guidelines h.v. now been re- being King's Conef at London. The main viewed having regard to the technological objective of the pre feet is to establish the advancement in the steal industry and the relationship between long term inbreeding need for modernisation .nd upgradation of and genetic disorders in a large population. the existing mini steel plant. to improve their economic viability and its status in the coun- Aevlsed Guideline. for Mini St•• 1 try. The following guidelines have accord- Plants ingly baen drawn up.

564. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: With a view to encourage mod.mila· WIll the Minister of STEEL AND MINES ~ tion of the existing electric arc furnace indus- pleased to state: try In general and reduce the specific power consumption in particular through the ad0p- (a) whether Government have recently tion of modern energy ..Ying equ~ 231 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 232 enhancement of additional capacity upto the Department of Steel. 150% in addition to the existing licensed capacity will be allowed to steel making units (d) Subm ission Qf categorical power in production as a result of modernisation assurance from the State Gov- including replacement of equipment subject ernment. to a categorical power assurance from the appropriate authority. The interested parties 3. The present policy of permitting flexibil- wilt have to satisfy the department of Steel Ity to the mini-steel plants to diversify into that adequate steps will be taken to instal production of all grades of carbon and alloy requisite facilities that will improve their steels, including stainless steel/heat resist- productivity and reduce consumption of ing steel within their licensAd capacity will power. For availing of this facility, the entre- continue. Similarly, additions of balancing preneurs are also required to instal facilities facilities like continuous casting machines, to enable the use of sponge iron to the extent conditioning facilities etc. for improving pro- of 300/0 at a minimum level in their arc fur- ductivity and quality will be freely allowed. naces. The maximum level of expansion which would be permitted under this provi- 4. Where an existing mini-steel plant sion would be upto a total capacity of undertakes modernisation of its electric arc 2.50,000 tonnes per annum. In respect of furnace(s) and as a result, its liquid metal MRTP Companies, such expansion will be availability is sufficient for producing a mini- subject to clearance under MRTP Act. mum quantity of 1 lakh tonnes per annum of hot rolled strips/coils, it will be permitted to 2. It has been found that small furnaces of set up facilities for manufacture of H.R. Steel 5-10 tonnes capacity are ntt suitable for Strips/Coils of wider width (600 mm and adoption of modern energy saving facilities above) subject to the conditions that the and hence a provision has been kept in new interested parties submit a detailed feasibil- guidelines for replacement of smaller fur- ity report, produce a categorical power as- naces by bigger ones. A unit having installed surance from the competent authority, elec- one or more electric arc furnace(s) of capac- tric arc furnace will be oapable of using a ity~ess than 15 tonnes each will be permitted minimum 30% of its feed in the form of to replace thislthese furnace(s) by a single sponge iron and the products conform to modern 15 to 25 tonnes capacity electric arc specified quality specifications. furnace subject to the following conditions:- 5. It has been assessed that there would be a surplus of long products upto 1994-95 (a) The size of the new replacernent and as such, it is not proposed to allow furnace to be installed should be setting up of any new Electric Arc Furnace such that its capacity does not steel making units during the 7th Plan pe- increase the existing licensed riod. However, keeping in view the special capacity by more than 1500/0. problems of transporting steel to remote areas, this provision will not be applicable to (b) The units submit a detained fea- the areas located in Jammu & Kashmir, the sibility report which should in- hilly districts of U.P., North Eastern States, clude details of the pxisting and Sikkim and Himachal Pradesh where mini- proposed facimies. steel plants with a capacity of 50,000 tonnes per annum will be permitted subject to cate- (c) The unit instals such modern gorical power assurance given by the State features as may be specified by Governments concerned and also subject to 233 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 234 the condition that the capacity is achieved to steam line the implementation of the pro- through the Electric Arc Furnace route. gramme:-

6. Existing licensed mini-steel plants will i) Regular monitoring of the p. fal- be allowed to attain a minimum economic ciparum sensitivity to chloro- capacity of 50,000 tonnes per annum quine and feed back to states to through Electric Arc Furnace route on pro- take timely steps to tackle the p. duction of categorical assurance regarding falciparum resistance wherever power availability from the respective State it is detected. Governments. ii) Regular monitoring of the epi- Proposal to Reshape Plan to Eradicate demiological situation for effec- Malaria tive control of the disease.

565. SHRI SAMBHAJIRAO iii) Regular monitoring of the vector KAKADE: susceptibility 10 different insecti- SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: cides for undertaking spray operation with tho appropriate Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY insecticides. WELFARE be pleased to state: iv) A macro and rnicro level malari- (a) whether Government have pre- ogenic stratification of the coun- pared any plan to eradicate Malaria; try based on the various parame- ters is being worked out. (b) whether any mid-term appraisal has been made; v) Health education and publicity measures have been intensified. (c) whether the appraisal has revealed ineffectiveness of the plan; and Replacement of Wooden Sleepers by Concrete Sleepers (d) if so, the steps taken to reshape-the plan as per suggestion made by the Plan- 566. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the ning Commissions' appraisal? Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether there is a proposal under MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY consideration of Government to replace the WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): existing wooden sleepers of the railways by (a) to (c). The Modified Plan of Operation for concrete sleepers; control of Malaria is in operation since April, 1977. The mid-term appraisal has been (b) if so. the details thereof; made by the Planning Commission in 1987 a"9 it has not revealed any ineffectiveness (c) the railway zones where this work of the plan. However, certain operational will be taken up/has been taken up; problems in the implementation of the pro- gramme have been pointed out in some (d) the length of railway tracks that is states. likely to be completed by the end of Seventh Plan on each zonal railway and particularly (d) The following steps are being taken on South Central Railway; and 235 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written AnSW81S 236

(d) The following lengths are expected (d) whether thete is Cl proposal to set up to be laid with concrete slee~rs by the end a factory forthis purpose in Andhra Pradesh, of 7th Plan on various zonal Railways: if so, the details thereQf, and if not, the reasons therefor?

Central ~ 2100 Kms. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Eastern - 1800 Kms. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No, Sir. A global tender for procurement of 40 Nos. of Northern - 1400 Kms. High Horse Power Electric locomotives of Three phase technology alongwith Technol- North Eastern 100 Kms. ogy Transfer has been floated.

Northeast Frontier - 150 Kms. (b) Does not arise.

Southern - 1000 Kms. (c) Chittaranjan Locomotive Works.

South Central - 1200 Kms. (d) No; Sir. There is no approved work to set up a separate factory for this purpose. South Eastern - 1400 Kms.

Western - 1250 Kms. Standard of Sports

Total -10400 Kms. 568. SHAI V. TUi-SIRAM: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL- OPMENT be pleased to ,tate: (8) Long welded rails laid on Prestressed concrete sleepers with elastic (a) whether the standard of sports in the fastenings provide ideal track for smooth country has gon8 down particularly in the and ••f. passage of both passenger and cricket, hockey and football as became evi- freight trains. dent from the matches held recently; 237 WhIten An...... PHALGUNA 6, 1909 ($AKA) (b) if so. whether a high powered (a) and (b). Yes. Committee has since been constituted by Government to find out the debacles in the (c) and (d). Does nat aris •. faeld of sports in the country; and In cr .... In Steel production (c) if so, the details of composition of the Committee and the time by which it is ex· 570. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: pected to submit its report? SHRI S.M. QURADDI:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS pleased to state: AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) whether the production of saleabl. HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT steel has increased in 1986-87; CSHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): Ca) In cricket our performance in the Reliance Cup (b) if so. the total percentage of in- matches and in the Test series against the crease expected for the next year; West Indies was satisfactory. while in hockey and football our performance in re- (c) the overall position of stee' produc>- cant tournaments was not up to expectation. tion in 1987-88;

(b) No, Sir. (d) the quantum of steel imported In 1987; and (c) Does not arise. (e) the steps being t.en to improve the Aida Control Programme position?

569. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: SHAI S.M. GURADDI: THE MINISTE~ OF STATE IN llfE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS .. Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAUlL Y TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI YO- WELFARE be pleased to state: GENORA MAKWANA): (.) Ves. Sir.

(8) whether his Ministry had submitted (b) The total percentage of incr... a proposal for Rs.9 crore last year to the expected for 1987-88 is estimated to be Planning Commission for control of AIDS in about 4.6. the country; (c) The estimated domestic production (b) whether the proposal has been of saleable steel during 1987-88 is 11.2 approved by the Commission; million tonnes.

(c) if not, the reasons for the delay; and (d) Import of ate81 from April·November 1987 through the major ports have been (d) when it is likely to be approved? about 1. 1 million tonn88.

THE MINISTER OF STATE ~ THE (a) The foItowIng ....being tIIken MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY to improve the product., of .... In the WELFARE (KUMARI SAAOJ KHAPAROE): country:- 239 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Written Answers 240

i) The main producers are re-ori- TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI YO- enting their product-mix accord- GENDRA MAKWANA): (a) to (d). Recently ing to the demand in the country. Government have received a proposal from a non .. resident Indian in a Gulf country for Ii) Expansion/modernisation of the grant of an industrial licence for manufacture existing steel plants. of coated sheets for a capacity of 25,000 tonnes per annum. This application is not iii) Improved techno-economic covered under the existing guidelines for parameters. steel industries. Applications from Non-resi- dent Indians will be considered in terms of iv) Improved maintenance of plants these guidelines. and equipment for better availa- bility. Incident In Maternity Ward of SafdarJung Hospital v) Optimise captive power genera- tion and energy conservation. 572. SHAI MADHU DANDAVATE: SHAI SOMNATH RATH: vi) Ensure adequate inputs of right SHRI KAMLA PRASAD quality at the right time. SINGH:

vii) Intensive research & develop- Will the Minister of ,HEALTI-I AND FAMILY ment efforts. WELFARE be pleased to state:

Non-Resident Indian's Interest to Invest (a) whether a woman whose new born In Steel Sector baby boy was replaced by a baby girl at the Safdarjung Hospital in Delhi on January 3D, 571. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: 1988 resorted to hunger strike to demand SHRI S.M. GURADDI: the return of her baby boy; SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: (b) if so, whether the authorities have Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be made inquiries in this regard; and pleased to state: (c) if so, the findings of the inquiry and (a) whether non-resident Indians in the action taken? Gulf countries have shown keen interest to invest and promote exports in the field of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE steel; MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (b) if so, Government's reaction in this (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. A woman Mrs. Raj Bala regard; has alleged that her male baby has been replaced by a female baby. The matter has (c) whether any plans have been pre- been handed over to the police for investiga- pared in this regard; and tion.

(d) if SOt the details thereof? Evaluation of Universities' Performance by University Grant. Commission THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- 574. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will 241 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6.1909 (SAKA) Writt"n Answers 242 the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Recognition to Vldyasagar University VELOPMENT be pleased to state: by University Grant, Co.nmiS8lon

(a) whether University Grants Commis- 575. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Will sion evaluates the academic and adminis- the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE .. trative performance of the Universities from VELOPMENT be pleased to state: time to time; (a) whether the Vidyasagar University (b) if so. the authority through which this in Midnapore district of West Bengal has not evaluation is done; been recognised by the University Grants Commission; and (c) whether for this purpose regular inspections of the Universities are under- (b) if so, the details theronf and the taken; and reasons therefor?

(d) if so, the names of the universities THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE inspected by the University Grants Commis- DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND sion directly or through any other authority in CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN the last three years and resufts thereof? RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) The Vidy~sa9ar University, Midnapore has not yet been declared fit by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the UGC to receive Central assistance as DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND per Section 12 (8) of the UGC Act. CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. (b) The UGC has made several sug- SHAHI): (a) and (b). The U.G.C. has con- gestions for amendment to the Act of the ducted a review of all the Central Universi- Vidyasagar University. The Government Of. ties in 1984. While considering the report, West Bengal has informed the Com mission the Commission decided that review of the that certain suggestions made by the UGC academic and administrative performance for amendment to the provisions relating to of each University should bo carried out appointment of the Vice-Chancellor and the once in five years. Accordingly. the Commis- composition of the Executive Council of the sion has conducted a review of the Univer- University are n01 acceptable to them. sity of Hyderabad. A similar review of the NEHU is in progress. These reviews are Financial POSRlon 01 Calcutta and conducted through expert committees ap- Haldl. Ports pointed by the Commission. Such reviews of the State Universities have not so far been 576. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Will undertaken. the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (c) and (d). Sedion 13 of the UGC Ad provides that the Commission may cause an (a) the present financial position of inspect of the Universities for 'the purpose of Calcutta and Haldia ports; ascertailling their financial needs or the standards of teaching. examinations and (b) the reasons for the unhappy finan .. research in them. However •the Comm ission cial position ot these ports; has not so far caused inspection of any University under this provision. (c) whether the POrt authority has d. 20 Wrllten Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 W",." An,..,. 244 cided to levy surcharges on commodities (a) The revision is e~ed toganerat. that wi. be handled by thase ports; an additional revenue at about As. 15.75 erar. par annum. (d) if 10. the details thereof; (f) Does not arise as the revision has not (e) the impact as a result of these come into effect. DiversiQn of cargo to other surcharges; and ports is not anticipated .s a result of the proposed revision. (f) whether is has affected the business of the port and bulk of commodities have Trained Dogs for ProtttCtlon of Railway started going to other ports? Property

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 577. SHRI NARAYAN CHOOSEY: Will MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to (SHRI RAJESH PilOn: (a) As perthe latest state: audited accounts of Calcutta Port Trust the year 1986 .. 87 ended with an operating sur- (a) whether Government have ac- plus of Rs. 3.37 crorss for Calcutta Dock cepted in principle to engage trained dogs to Complex while Haldia Dock Complex protect Railway property from being stolen showed an operating surplus ·of As. 16.77 from workshops and depots having bound- ercres. However, after taking into account, ary walls; the Finance and Miscellaneous Income and Expenditure and appropriations to various (b) if so, the number of such workshops reserves etc., the Calcutta Port Trust (in- and depots seleded !or ttlis purpose; and cluding Haldia) showed a net deficit of As. 2.82 crores. This deficit is expected to in- (c) the names of the places where the crease further in the current year. scheme had been worked out?

(b) The main reasons for the unhappy financial position of Calcutta Port are:- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF RAIa..WAYS (SHRI (i) Substantial increase in expendi- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes, Sir. ture on account of payment of Seme workshops and depots have been salaries and wages; seleded for inten9ive patrolling by trained dogs. (ii) St8epfall in income from demur- rage; (b) 10 Workshops and 4 depots.

(iii) Heavy expenditure on the (c) Workshops: ... (1) Golden Rock dredging and maintenance of Workshop, Tiruchchirappalli. (2) Integral the shipping channel. Coach Factory, Perambur. Madras, (3) Loco Works, Perambur. Madras, (4) Carriage (c) 3nd (d). The Port Trust has not Works, Perambur, Madras, (5) Ashokapu- declded to levy any surcharge on com modi- ram Workshop. Mysore, (6) S & TWorkshop. ties. However, the Port Trust has sent a Podanur. (7) Wagons Repairing Shop! proposal to Government for sanction to revi- Raipur, (8) Electric Loco Shedl8hilai, (9) sion of some cargo related and miscellane- loco and Caniage WorkshoptKl\aragpur; OUS charges. and (10) New Wagons st-op, Kharagpur. 2~ Wrltt.n An..... PHALGUNA 8. 1909 (SAKA) Depots:- (1) General Stores Depots, Indirasagar (Narmadasagar) Project in the Perambur, Madras. (2) Chief Engineer districts of Khandwa, Dewu and Hosh.,· (Construction Stor.sl8i1aspur), (3) Scrap gabad to assess the archaeological wealth. Depot. Mathurakatil1

(8) whether the construction of Nar- (a) whether any a"alysis has been mada Dam is likely to pose a threat of sub- made of the causes of extremely poor per- mersion to the places of historical impor- formance of the Indian Contingent in the tance and ancient fossils resulting in the Tenth Asian Games held in Seoul (South vanishment of our ancient culture; Korea) during September-October, 1986; and (b) whether Government have received any raport in this regard from the Archaeo- (b) if so, the findings thereof and logical Survey of India: whether any steps have been undertaken to ensure better periormance in the future (c) whether the land in the three districts International Sports events? of historical importance where prehistoric articles and the most ancient fossils of India THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have been found will submerge by the con- DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS struction of this dam; and AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT IN THf; MINISTRY OF (d) if so, the measures suggested by HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT the Archaeological Survey of India to protect (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a> and the significant cultural heritage of the coun- (b). Govemment constituted an Export try from being submerged? Group under the Chairm.nship of Dr. Amrk Singh to study the report of the Indian OIym .. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pic Association (lOA) on the performance of DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND the Indian Contingent at the X Asiad h.~ at CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN Seoul and other allied matters. O. T.I. This RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHAI l.P. Expert Group has made its recommenda- SHAH I): (8) to (d). The construction of four tions which include the need for Govemment dams on the river Narmada in Madhya of India to issue detailed guidelines to Na- Pradesh are likely to submerge archaeologi- tional Sports Federations as part of the cal weahh. The Archaeological Survey of conditions for grant of finanoial and other India and the State Directorate of Archaeol- assistance. It has, intfl,-alla, also recom- ogy and Museums, Madhya Pradesh have mended that the National Sports Federa- already commenced the first phase of work tions must furnish mu"f.yea, .comprehen- of surveying the submergence areas of ~e siv. plan for training and coaching of .port- 247 Writt.n AnswelJ FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written AnswetS 248 &persons for participation in international Coordinating functioning of H8un oompetitions and a system of mon~oring the Tsang Memorial with Nav Nalanda implementation of such a plan. Mahavlhara

In the above context, Government has 581. PROF. NARAIN CHAND. PAR- issued. An Excellence Development pro- ASHAR: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE- gramme which will be affective from 1st SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to March, 198B. state:

Grants to All India cultural Institutions (a) whether the decision to coordinate the functioning of the Heun Tsang Memorial 580. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- and the Nav Nalanda Mahavihara at Nal- ASHAR: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE- anda in Bihar has since been implemented; SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (b) if so, the broad outlines of the ·coordinated functioning and the date from (a) whether any grants to All India which it has been done; Cultural Institutions and Indo-Foreign Cul- tural Societies have been sanctioned during (c) if not, the reasons for delay and the the past three financial years including the date from which any coordination would be current financial year; established; and

(d) the dates on which the construcuon (b) if so, the names of the Institutions work for the Heun Tsang Memorial was and the Societies which have received the commenced and completed respectively as grants alongwith amount during this period also the functions carried out at the Memo- separately for each year; rial since its completion?

(c) whether the procedure for the sanc- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion of the grants needs streamlining and DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND whether the demand for grants is sufficiently CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN met by Government; and RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (8) No, Sir.

(d) the names of the institutions and the (b) Does not arise. societies which applied for the grant during this period aJongwith the reasons for not (c) In March, 1985, the Bihar Govt. giving any grant to some of the Institutions or agreed in principle to the merger of Hieun the Societies? Tsang Memorial with Nava Nalanda Ma .. havihara and to establish an autonomous organisation. Subsequently, in a communi- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cation dated 4.3.86, the Bihar Govt. indi .. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND cated that 8 thinking had developed for es- CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN tablishment of an Open University at Nal- RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI loP. anda incorporating the Nava Nalanda Ma- SHAHI): (a) to (d). The information is being havihara into it. On 12.11.88, the State collected ar.d will be laid on the tab4e of the Govemment formally requested the Central House as soon as possible. Government to set up an Open University at 249 Wrilt.n Answets PHALOUNA 8, 1909 (SAKA) the Navs Nalanda Mahavihara. As this did Forest Survey of India and National Remote not touch upon the original proposal of the Sensing Agency (NASA) using satellite merger of Hieun Tsang Memorial with the data, the forest cover for the period 1981·83 Nava Nalanda Mahavihara, the State Gov- was 19.52% of the geographical araa of the ernment was requested to reconsider the country as against 14.1 0% assessed by matter. The matter is still under considera- NRSA during 1980-82. A fresh survey has tion of the State Government. not been done to assess exact loss in the forest cover during the period 1972-75 and (d) The construction commenced in 1980-82. 1961 and was completed in 1984. It has not yet started functioning. (c) No, Sir.

Loss of Forest Cover (d) Ground truth was not available for the period 1972-75 to authenticate the inter- 582. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- pretation of satellite imagery for that period. ASHAR: Will the Minister of ENVIRON- The review of the National Remote Sensing MENT AND FORESTS be pleased to refer Agency's estimates for that period was not, to the reply given to the Unstarred Question therefore, taken up. No. 2431 on 10 April, 1985 regarding MDe- pletion of Forest area- and state: The Forest Survey of India has initiated monitoring of forest cover of the country on (a) whetherthe National Remote Sens- a two year cycle. ing Agency estimates indicating a loss of 18.74 per cent of forest area in the whole The existing green cover is being pro- country between 1972-75 and 1980-82 have tected. The National Wastelands Develop- since been analysed and refined to deter- ment Board has been set up with the object mine the degree of error in their estimates; of bringing five million hectares of land 8Vety year under fuelwood and fodder planata.. (b) if so, the resutts of the analysis and tions. the exact loss in percentage of the forest area in period under reference; Lo.s of for•• t cover

(c) whether any estimate regarding the 583. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGA- IosSlgain in forest area during the succeed- LAM: Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT ing 15 years i.e. upto 1987 has also been AND FORESTS ~ pleased to state: prepared; and (a) whether growing and processing of (d) if so, the details thereof and if not, tobacco causes of deforestation and spread the reasons tharefor and whether an upto of desert in areas of tobacoo cultivation; date estimate would be prepared in this regard and the steps taken to extend the (b) whether any study has been made green cover on an adequate scale in the in this regard; and country? (c) if so, the details thereof and the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE corrective measures takan to sava the for- MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- ests? ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) and (b). Accolding to a joint exercise undertaken by THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 251 Written AnSW8l'l FEBRUARY 25, 19sa WrIIten AnSWIIIS 252

MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- (b) The State Governments of Andhra ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) The tobacco Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Industry increases deforestation by using Tamil Nadu have recommended 58 collages wood derived from the indigeneous forest for autonomous status for the consideration resources. However, there is no firm evi- of the Commission. Of these the Commis- denee to link growing and processing of sion has already concurred in the proposals tobacco to spread of desert in areas of of 48 colleges. • tobacco cultivation. (e) and (d). According to information (b) and (c). Yas, Sir. It has baan esti- available. proposals for salaction of colleges mated that annual wood consumption of the are at various stages of consideration in tobacco industry in the country is 5.88 lakh several States. So far only the Government cubic metres. of West Bengal has informed that they would not adopt any hurried decision about the The Government are encouraging use establishment of autonomous colleges in of coal for tobacco curing. the State.

Autonomous Status to College. Railway accidents

584. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- 585. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: JEE: Will the Minister of HUMAN RE- SHRt HARISH RAWAT: SOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (a) whether the University Grants Commission proposes to confer autono- (a) the number of railway accidents mous status on 500 colleges all over the which took place during November, Decem- country; ber, 1987 and January, 1988 zone-wise;

(b) if so, the number of applications (b) the number of persons killed and received from colleges; injured therein and the total 'il'nount of compensation paid to the families of de- (c) whether Government are aware that ceased and the injured persons; this proposal has not been favoured by some of the colleges; and (c) the details of the causes thereof and the reasons for increase in the average of (d) if so, the raasons therefor? railway accidents during this period;

(d) whether two accidents took place on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 15 January 1988 at Muzaffarnagar (U. P.) DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND and at Bahaura Cahndel Halt Station on CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN Mugulsarai·Patna line; and RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) The Programme of Action to (e) if so, the details thereof? implement the National Policy on Education - 1986 envisages that about 500 colleges THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE should be developed as autonomous col- MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI lege. In the VII Plan. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Zone-wlee 2SS Written AnswelS PHAlGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Written AnSWBIS 254

break up of train aecidents during Novem- of NOrthern Railway. However, on the same bar, December 1937 and January 1988 is as date, a bus dashed against a good train at an under: unmanned level aossing situated between Thana Bhawan and Hind stations on the Zone No. of train Shahdara-Shamli-Saharanpur section of accidents Northern Raifway, District Muzaffarnagar (U.P.). In this accident, 4 bus passengers Central 16 Iosttheir lives and 4 sustained injuries. In the second case, which also occurred on Eastern 19 15.1.88 at Bahora Chandil Halt stetion on Mughalsarai-Patna section of Eastern Rail- Northern 65 way, 7 persons, while entraining/detraining from 400 Down Mughalsarai-Patna City North Eastern 8 passengertrain, got hit by921 Up North East Express which was running through on Northeast 22 proper signals. Consequently, these 7 per- Frontier sons lost their lives. This was a case of sudden trespass. Southern 14 Release of funds for Higher Education South Central 11 by University Grants Commission

South Eastern 18 586 .. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYEA: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Western 22 VELOPMENT be pleased to state:

(b) 95 persons lost their lives and 182 (a) whether the University Grants sustained injuries in these accidents. No Commission has been channeling the funds compensation has so far been paid, as set- for higher education; tlement of claims for compensation takes time. (b) if so, the amount and details of funds released during 1983-84 to 1985-86; (c) These accidents were caused due to negligence of the road users at unmanned (c) whether the University Grants level crossings, failure of rolling stock and Commission released only seventy five per permanent way equipment, sabotage, inci- cent of the total admissible grants in the first dental factors like falling of boulders, trees, instance; etc., on track and faifure of railway staff. (d) if so, when the balance of twenty five The increase was due to an unfortunate per cant was released; and and sudden spurt in collisions and accidents at level crossings. Out of 25 level crossings (e) if not, the reasons therefor? accidents during the period, negligence on the part of road users was responsible in as THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE many as 20 cases. DEPARTMENTS OF eOUCATK>N AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (d) and (8). No accident took place on RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHAt LP. 15 January, 1988 at Muzaffarnagar station SHAHI): (a) The UGC has bean sanctioning 255 Writt9n AnswelS FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 256 grants to Universities and CoUeges for im- (ii) Village Pedavagi, Distrid West plementation of various development pro- Godavari grammes. (iii) Village Venugopalpuram, Dis- (b) The total development grants sanc- trict Vizianagaram tioned by the UGC during 1983-84, 1984-85 and 1985-86areRs. 70.63crores, Rs. 79 .96 Conservation of Flora and Fauna crores and Rs. 8~ 43 crores respectively. 588. SHRt T. BASHEER: Will the (c) to (8). According to the practice Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- followed ty the Commission, an 'on account' ESTS be pleased to state: grant is released as the first instalment for implementation of the approved program- (a) whether Government propose to set mes. Further grants are released from time up a specialised agency with adequate to time depending upon the progress of powers for ecological planning to conserve expenditure. In the case of building projects, and enhance Flora and ~auna: and % the first instalment is normally 25 • How- ever, if the construction programme is (b) if so, the details thereof? undertaken through the C.P.W.O. or the State P.W.D. as deposit work, the first in- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ll-IE stalment released is upto 750/0. In such MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- cases, the balance grants are released on ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) No, Sir. the basis of progress of construction. (b) Does not arise. Navodaya Vldyalayas In Andhra Pradesh Financial Assistance to Kerala for National Game. 587. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL- 589. StiRI T. BASHEER: OPMENT be pleased td state: SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA- CHANDRAN: (8) the number of Navodaya Vidyalayas proposed to be set up in Andhra Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Pradesh during the year 1988-1989; and DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state the total financial assistance given by Union (b) the details thereof? Government to the State Government of Kerala for Nationa! Games conducted in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Kerala? DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS & SHAHI): (a) and (b). Three new Navodaya SPORTS AND WOMEN & CHILD DEVEL· Vtdyalayas have been sanctioned to be OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN opened during 1988.. 89 in Andhra Pradesh RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI at the folloWing places; MARGARET ALVA): Government of India has sanctioned grants amounting to Rs. 2 • (i) Village Vennelavalasa. District Cror88 to the Government of Kerala for Srikakulam construdion of stadia and creation of other 257 Written AnsWBIS PHALGUNA 6. 1909 (SAKA) Written AnSWl8t"S 258 sports infrastructure related to holding of areas? 2nd National Games. Besides a grant of Rs. 30 lakhs was given to the Organising THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Committee 2nd National games for conduct- MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY ing the Games. WELFARE (KUMAR I SAROJ KHAPARDE): There is no such proposal under considera- [ Translation] tion of Government of India. However, keep- ing in view the difficult geographical condi- Study regarding harmful effects of Pan tions of the hilly areas, the norms for estab- Masala lishment of Primary Health Centres and Sub-Centres have been relaxed as one Pri- 590. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the mary Health Centre for 20.000 population Minister of HEALTH AND fAMILY WEL- and one sub-centre for 3,000 population in FARE be pleased to state: hilly areas against 30,000 and 5,000 popula- tion respedively in general rural areas. (a) whether Government have under- taken a study to find out the harm being [English] caused to the health of people by consuming Pan Masala; District Institutes of Education and Its staffing pattern (b) if so, the outcome thereof; and 592. SHRI ANAOI CHARAN OAS: Will (c) whether steps are being taken by the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- Government to control the production and VELOPMENT be pleased to state: consumption of this product? (a) the detailed programme about the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE setting up of O.l.E. (District Institutes of MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY Education) and staffing pattern under the WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): Projec:.1 "Education for Women's Equality- (a) No systematic studies have been con· for the session 1988-89; and ducted to find out the harmful effects of Pan Masala. Samp1es of Pan Masala are lifted by (b) the districts selected to implement Food Health Authorities of States/Union the programme in the country during the Territories under the provisions of Prew~n­ year 1988-89? tion of Food Adulteration Act. 1954 and Legal action is initiated if these are found to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE contain any injurious ingredient. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (b) and (c). Do not arise. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI LP. SHAH I): (a) It is plann~ri provisionally to let Mobile Medical Services In Hilly Areas up about 1 00 District Institutes of Education and Training during 1988-89 but the detaiJed 591. SHRI HARISH RAWAT:. Will the programme will be finaJised keeping in view Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- the availability of funds aftar the receipt and FARE be pleased to state whether Govern- processing of proposals of State Govem- ment propose to provide mobile medical mants during the current year. services in hilly areas keeping in view the • difficult geograpt}jcal conditions of these The staffing pattern under the projad 259 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 " WrlIJen AnSwelS . 280 -Education for Woman's Equality· has not acres of ~and and naassaty financial been finalised as the scheme is still at tile commitment for the,88tting.up of ,the Centre. state of consideration. The State Government hadoffered four sites in Cannanore and an-OffICer was deputed to (b) Identification of districts where Dis- inspect tne.sites. As all theS1tes were either trict Institutes of Education and Training w~1 at considerable distance from Cannanoreor be set up in 1988-89 wDI be done tn the otherwise not found suitable, the State course of that year, by the State Gover. Government was requested to suggest ments and UT Admns. ooncerned. another site within 8 kilometres of the town. The State Government have expressed Proposal to set up a unit of National their inability 10 acquire tand within 10 kilom- Institute of Sports at Cannanore etres of a big town.

593. SHRI MULLA~PALL Y RAM>'- Assistance for FoC1tba1l Coaching CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of HUMAbJ RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased 594. SHRI MULLAPPAL.L Y RAMA .. to state: CHANDRAN: Will the Mi'lister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased (a) whether Government have taken up to state: the proposal to start a unit oI1he National Institute of Sports at Cannan(){s in Kerala; (a) wheCher the Ministry has received any representation for financial assistance (b) if so, the details of steps taken; .on behalf of the ''Football Friend' \Which is a unique football coaching centre in :Cannan- (c) whether any site has been ear- ore, Kerala; and marked/acquired to locate the Instihde; and (b) if so, the Gecision taken -by the (d) if so, the details thereof? Ministry in this regard?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lliE MINISTER OF STATE IN lHE DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFF~S DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFHRS AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHIlD DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) to (d). (SHRIMAT' MARGARET ALVA): (a) Yes There was a proposal from Government of Sir. Kerala to set up a wing of the National Institute of Sports at Calicut or Cannanore in (b) The representation is under consid- Karala. The State Government was in- eration. formed that NIS had set up tts Southern Regional Centre at Bangalore whch caters to the needs of all Southern States including Railway Projects In Orissa

Kerala and, therefore l it was not possible to open a separate Centre of N IS in Kerala. The 595. SHRI HARIHAA SOREN: Will the State Government was also informed that Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: the Central Govemment could consider setting up of a Centre in Keraia if the State (a) the names of the railway projects Govemment was willing to give about 50-60 under construction in Orissa; 281 Wrllten AnsMHS PHALGUNA 8, 1909 ($AKA) Written An.w«l 282

(b) the year since when these projects tion of each of these projects? are under construction; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ll-tE (c) the amount sanctioned for each of MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI these projects in last three years; and MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) to (d). Details of major Railway Projects under construc- (d) the progress made in the construe- tion In Orissa are given below:-

S. Name of Project Year of Outlay for the years Progress No. approval (As. in erores)

1985-86 1986-87 1987-88

1. Koraput-Rayagada 1981-82 9 20 46.5 19% (20 km) new BG line opened in 198~~ .. 2. Talcher-Sambalpur 1984-85 3 2 :) 8°/- ... .., new BG·line

3. Mancheswar-Carriage 19n-78 3.18 6.02 2.41 Workshop has Aepair Workshop become opera- tional

4. Sambalpur-Setting 1985.. 86 0.05 0.12 0.65 60/0 up of New Division

5. Electrification of 1987-88 0.51 250/0 Koraput-Damanjodi section

Road over-bridges In Orissa tion?

596. SHRI HAR II fAR SOREN: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Four. (a) the number of road ovar-bridges under constructions in Orissa; (b) Rs. 56.78 lakhs (Approx.)

(b) the amount of spent by Railways on (c) As. 866.22 lakhs. these bridges so far; (d) One of the road ovar bridges is (c) the cost of construction of these programmed for completion in April'88. praJed.;and Completion of the remaining thr.. would mainly depend upon the completbn of the (d) the expected time of their com ple- approach.. ~ the State Government. 263 Writ,." An.w.ts FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written AnSWBIS 264 Improvement of Amenltle. In Hew completed. Electrification works on Jhansi· Delhl·Purl Express Trains Bina-Itarsi are in progress.

597. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the (b) Trains are already being operated Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to state: under electric traction on New Delhi-Agra- Jhansi section. Electric trains on the remain- (a) whether any improvement has been ing section between Jhansi and Itarsi will be made in providing amenities in 175/176 and introduced after completion of electrification 9151916 New Delhi-Puri Express trains; works.

(b) if so, the details thereof; and [ Translation]

(c) the additional amenities proposed to Stoppage of Chhatisgarh Express at be provided in those trains during 1988 .. 89? Ganjbasauda Station

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 599. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Ministerof RAILWAYS be pleased to referto MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b). reply given to Unstarred Question No. 5165 Amenities have been provided as per norms dated 10 December, 1987 regarding stop- laid down and at par with similar trains run- page of 137/138 Chhatisgarh Express at ning on Indian Railways in 175/176 and 9151 Ganjbasauda station and state the reasons 916 New Delhi-Puri Express trains. for not stopping this train at Ganjbasauda Station, which is connected with places of (c) It IS planned to provide luggage historicalltourist importance? locking chain facilities during 1988-89 in all the AC 2-Tier Coaches running on these THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE trains. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCiNDIA): Ganjbasauda is [ Translation) adequately served by 9 pairs of trains includ- ing direct fast trains for Madras, Hyderabad, Electrification of Itarasl-Bhopal-Jhansl- Bombay, Bilaspur, Amritsar, Firozepur, Agra-New Deihl Railway Line Jammu Tawi and other stations enroute.

598. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the Tree Planters Co-operative Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 600. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the (a) whether the electrification work of Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- the line from Itarasi-Bhopal-Jhansi-Agra to ESTS be pleased to state: New Delhi in Centrat Railway has since been completed; and (a) whether Government are consider- ing a proposal raceived from the r .qrgy (b) if so, the time by which electric trains Advisory Board and Planning Commission will be introduced on this route? to set up co-operative society of tree plant- ers in Uttar Pradesh and other parts of the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE country; and MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No, Sir. New (b) if so, the outline of the proposed Delhi·Agra.Jhansi section has already been scheme and ins estimated expenditure in- 265 writ." Answell ,_. PHALGUNA 6.1909 (SAKA) Written An.... 288 volved therein? (a) the amount allocated for research in Science and Technology at the univarsHies THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE in Seventh Plan; MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) Yes, Sir. On (b) the names of universities with ad- the suggestion of Advisory Board on Energy vanced centres for research in science and a proposal has been received from National technology; and Dairy Development Board (NDDS) for set- ting up cooperative societies of tree growers (c) the number of doctorates awarded, in some parts of the country. Uttar Pradesh subject-wise, by the universities during is not among'the States where the project is 1986-87? proposed for being taken up. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (b) As per the outlines of the pro- CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN posal,64 cooperative societies covering 256 RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRt l.P. villages would be formed in 5 Sta~es of SHAH I): (a) From the allocation of Rs. 370 Gujarat, Orissa, Rajasthan, Andhra crores for programmes of UGC in the VII Pradesh and Karnataka. Approximately 40 Plan, a provision of Rs. 75.50 crores has hectares of land would be planted by each been made for strengthening research in the society with grasses, fuelwood and trees for Universities in all subjects. No separate allo- small timber. The total projected cost of the cations have been made for research in scheme is Rs. 3.15 crores and it is being Science and Technology. implemented over a period of 5 years from 1986-87 onwards. (b) A list of the centres of Advanced study in Science and Technology is given in the Statement-I below. [English] (c) According to provisiona' information Allocation for Research in Science and available, the total number of doctorates Technology to Various Universities awarded during 1985-86 was 7507. State- ment-II showing the faculty-wise distribution 601. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: of the doctorates awarded is given below. Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE Information for the year 1986-87 is not yet DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: available.

STATEMENT·I

Ust of the Centres of Advanced Study in Science and Technology

S. No. University Department

1 2 3

1. Annamalai Marin~ Biology

2. Banaras Hindu University 1. Zoology 2. Botany 3. Met. Engg. 'FEBRUARY 25, 1988 288

1 2 3

3. Bombay 1. Applied Chemistry 2. Mathematics

4. Calcutta 1. Botany 2. Chemistry 3. Radio Physics and Electronics 4. Mathematics

5. Defhi ,. Botany, 2. Zoology 3. Physics 4. Chemistry

6. 1.1. Sc.\Bangalore 1. Molecular Biophysics 2. Sio-Chemistry 3. Inorganic & Physical Chemistry, 4. SoHd State Chemistry 5. Physics

7. Jadavpur Geology

B. Madras 1. Mathematics 2. Botany

t. Punjab 1. Mathematics 2. Geotogy 3. Chemistry

11. Poona Physics

STATEMENT" 2 Faculy-wiss distribution 01 the Doctol'llbls Awarded Veterinary Science ~66

Faculty Law 39

1 2 Others 67

Arts 2,991 Total 7,507

Science 2,885 ·Provisional Commerce 257 Detection and Treatment Centres for Education 228 Cancer

Engineeringl 192 602. SHRI SYEO SHAHABUODIN: Technology Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: Medicine 68 (a) th. estimated incidence of cancer in Agricutture 616 the country; ·PHALGtJNA 8. 1909 (SAIG4) Wribn·Answers 270

(b) the ftt.lmDe, of~ht8dbn and treat- (a) . Ule names of leprosy hospitals run ment centres. With their capacities; by Union Government directly and :State Governments separately; (c) whether the, 8xisling facilities are , considered',to be adaquat,,; and (b) : the -assistance ojven by Union Govern meAt to these leprosy hospitals; and (d) if not;tna steps taken tor expanding !hem? (c) the details of,lthe help extended to Nooranad:,Lepro$Y Sanitorium in Kerals? THE MIUISTER eF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH "AND FAMILY THE MINISTER ·OF STATE IN THE .WELFARE (KUMAR1SAROJKHAPARDI;): MINISTRY !Of' ,HEALTH AND FAMILV (a) to (d). The :informaUon is ~iven in·the WELFARE (t(UMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): Stetement given ,below. (a) A statement is given below.

(a) It is est_ated tilatlthere are about (b) So far,as the Temporary Hospitali- '15 to 20 lakhs cancer pa1iants in the ~untry sation Wards and other infrastrudure cre- at -any given time and abcwt 5 lakhs new ated by the State Govemments are oon- cases occur every year. cerned, hundredIPer cent cash assistance is "given to the States/UTs during the Plan (b) Facilities 10r treattMm11)f cancer Pftriod. The Central :Institutes.are the subor· incl.tldiog radio-therapy are cwaiJable in 91 .dioate offices of thelMinistry and their expen- instltltions in the country. Chemo-:therapy lditure ;s met by the Government of India. facirities are generally available ,in aU major hospitall. There are 58 Medical CQlleges ;(c) No separate 1igures 01 financial with PAP Smearing units under t+w post assistance to Nooranad Leprosy Sanitorium partum programme with cancer detection tn Kerala are available. The cash assistance facilities. Early Cancer Detection Cel!dres to hi States is released om the ~ of the have been ~et up"in 28 institutions. Expenditure Statement for all the -oompo- nants at the programme. However, cash (c) and (d). The facilities available now assistance of Rs. 17.25 lakhs.,d Rs. :2D. 00 are hot considered adequate. Within the 7th lakhs wertS released to the GovernmtMlt of Plan allocation Df Rs. 20.00 crores, assis- Keraladuring the year 1985-86and 19ae.B7 tance is being Given to 9 Regional Cancer respectiveJv. . Centres located at Ahmedabad, Sangalore, Calcutta, Cuttack, Delhi, Gauhati. Gwalior, STATEMENT Madras and Trivandfvm for the purchase of the sophisticated aquipments fortheir devel· Names of leprosy hospitals run opment. Central assistance @ As. 12.00 by Union Government dirBCt/y- lakhs is being given to institutions for setting up of Cobalt Therapy Units. 1) Central Leprosy Teaching Assistance to Nooranad Leprosy and Research Institute, Chen- SanHorlum, Kara.a galpattu, Tamil Nadu.

603. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Will 2) Regional Leprosy Teaching the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILV and R••• arch Inltltut., WELFARE be pleased to state: ~,M.P. 271 Wrirtfm Answel8 FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Written Answenl 272 3) Regional Leprosy Teaching 1 2 3 and Research Institute. Aska, Distt. Ganjam. Orissa. 17) Orissa 9 4) Regional Leprosy Teaching and Research Institute, Gau~ 18) Punjab 1 ripur I Distt. Bankura, West Bengal. 19) Rajasthan 4

II. Statewise position of existing 20) Sikkim 1 temporary hospitalisation wards for leprosy as on by March, 21) Tamil Nadu 49 1987- 22) Tripura 3 1 2 3' 23) Uttar Pradesh 15

1 ) Andhra Pradesh 44 24} West Bengal 30

2) Assam 4 2S} A & N Islands 1

3) Arunachal Pradesh 1 26) Chandigarh Nil

4) Bihar 28 27) D & N Haveli Nil

5) Gujarat 9 28} Delhi 1

6) Haryana Nil 29) Goa 1

7) Himachal Pradesh 1 30) Daman & Diu Nil

8) Jammu & Kashmir 2 31) Lakshadweep Nil

9) Karnataka 22 32) Pondicherry 1

10) Kerala 5 Total 272

11) Madhya Pradesh 12 Bonus and Ex-Gratia Payment to Railway Employ•• s 12) Maharashtra 23 604. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Will 13) Manipur 1 the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 14) Meghalaya 1 (a) whether Government have recently 15) Mlzoram 1 entered into an agreement with railway employees on the issue of bonus and ex- 16) Nagaland 2 gratia payment; 273 Wnlt9n AnsWSIS PHALGUNA6, 1909 (SAKA) Wribn Ans... 274 (b) if so, the details thereof; and tary agreement dt. 23.8.1984, is amended, mutatis mutandis, as under :- (c) whether the limit of bonus has been increased? (i) The base productivity Index wiD be reckoned as the ratio of the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE average equated nett tonne KM MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAr to the average of the staff MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Yes Sir. The strength for the three years norms and parameters for payment of pro- 1983-84, 1984-85 and 1985-86. ductivity linked bonus to Railway employees This figure works out to 125986 have been revised in consultation with the million NTKMs per employee. two recognised Labour Federations. This index will entitle the eligible railway employees to PLB equal (b) A copy of the agreement dated to 35 days' wages. 19.9.1987 is given in the statement below. (ii) The output for a year will be (c) No, Sir. However, an ex-gratia reckoned by the total revenue amount, equal to the amount of productivity traffic nett tonne kilometre which linked bonus, wm be admissible to employ- shall be calculated by converting ees, whose wages exceed Rs. 2500 but do the non-suburban passenger not exceed Rs. 3500. KM by a factor 0.071 and adding this to the total goods revenue STATEMENT nett tonne KM.

Agreement fqr Productivity Linkecl Bonus (iii) The input for the year will be - Indian Railways - Amendment 1987 taken ciS the total number of 8taff as given in the annual statistical The existing agreement dt. 22. 11.1979 statement of the Indian Rail .. for payment of Productivity Linked Bonus ways. read with Railway Ministry's letter No. E' (P&A) 11-80IPlB-7 dt. 19.9.80 addressed to (iv) The ratio of the output to the All India Railwaymen's Federation and Na- input would be the productivity tional Federation of Indian Railwaymen and index for the year. acceptance thereof vide No. Be (3)180 dt. 22.9.80 from NFIR and No. AIRF1387 (410) (v) PLB for the year will be calctJ. dt. 21.9.80from AIRF read with suppl,men- lated in the following way :-

PLB payable in Productivity index of the year X 35 no. of days Base year productivity index

(vi) PlB would be payable to the culatad' as !f the wages are As.. railway employees whose 1600.00 p.m. wages do not exceed Rs. 2500.00 p.m. Where the wages (vii) As a very special case. an 8X- . of employees exceed RI. gratia amount equal to the 1600.00 p.m. but do not exceed amour t 01 PLB admissIM to As. 2500.00 p.m. PLB payable employees whose wages .. to s~ employees shall ~ cal- As. 1800/- p.m. wil be ".,.,... 275 Writen ARSWfNS FEBRUARV\'26,1998 W",*, AnsMNS 276 as a special dispensation to ters 'Of 'Productivity Linked Be> RaHway employees whose nu.as.sat forth above, ,will be wages exceed Rs. 2500/~ p.m. applicable for the perfonnance but do not exceed As. 3500/- for the financial years 1986-87, p.m. 1987 -88 and 1988-89;' During the financial year 1988-89, the (viii) No PlB will be payable if the revised inorms and parameters performance in a year falls be- for payment of PLB as set forth low the level of index 90 com- above will be reviewed by the pared to base productivity index parties for application in future laid down in para (i) aboVe. years. (Base year Index being treated as 100). (x) Other terms and conditions set out in the agreement dated 22- (ix) The revised norms and parame- 11-79 shall remain unchanged.

Sd. Sd. Sd. (KESHAV KULKARNI) (UMRAOMAL PUROHIT) (SATISH BAHL) President President Adviser (tA) N.F.I.R. A.I.R.F. 19.9.1987 19.9.1987 19.9.1987

Sd. Sd. Sd. (P.N. SHARMA) (J.P. CHAUBEY) (S.M. VAISH) Joint Gen. Secretary General Secretary Secretary, N.F.I.R. A.I.R.F. Railway Board, 19.9.1987 19.9.1987 19.9.1987

Impedimenta In the Implementation of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lliE New Education Policy DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN 605. SHRIH.B.PATIL: Will the Minister RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHAI L.P. of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT SHAHI): (a) and (b). Keeping in view the be pleased to state: overall financial constraints, the Department of Education was required to undertake an (a) whether financial constraints, par- exercise during the current year for locating ticularly due to the severe drought condi- savings within its Plan Budget of Rs. 800 tions in the country, are likely to hamper the crores to meet the additional requirement of implementation of the National Policy on funds on account of revision of pay scates of Educa1k>n; and teachers, additional instalments of dearness allowance, bonus, etc. (about As. 85.18 (b) if so, to what extent it has compelled crorss). However, funds have been pro- Government to reduce the financial assis- vided under all priority programmes as tance in favour of· the States so far as the envisaged in the National Policy on Educa- question of Plan is concerned? tion. 271 WtlltM AnswelS PHALGUNA 6, 1109 (SAKA) Written AM..,. 211 Market Reaction to the Incr_ In StH. (c) if not, whether there is any propasaI Price. to start a concrete sleaper manufacturing unit in Kumool District wmtre there are • 606. SHRr E. A YYAPPU REDDY: Wilt number of cement manufacturing units? the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (a) whether any market study has been MADH;,VRAO SCINDIA): (a) Sir, the ex ... made to find out the reaction to the h ike in the pected production during 1988 and the next price of steel which came into effect from 24 3 years would be: December, 1987; 1988 (financial year 241akhs (b) whether the market is ~urrently 1988-89) experiencing recession as a result thereof; and 1989 (financial year 281akhs 1989-90) (c) whether mini units are suffering on account of held up stocks of unsold materi- 1990 (financial year 381akhs als? 1990-91 )

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1991 (financial year 381akhs DEPARTMENT OF STEEL IN THE MINIS- 1991-92) TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI YO- GENDRA MAKWANA): (a) and (b). A watch (b) Yes Sir, One factory already exists is kept on the overall demand, supply and at Mantralayam Road in Kurnool Oistt. stock position of steel in the country. There is no evidence to indicate that a recession- (c) There is no proposal for any addi- ary trend has arisen due to the increase in tional factory. steel prices. ElectrHlcatlon of Hyderabad-Bangalore (c) Government does not maintain in- and other RaJlway Rout.. formation about stock build up of mini steel plants. 608. SHRI E. AYVAPPU REDDY: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Concreta Sleepar Manufacturing Units state: In DisH. Kurnool (A.P.) (a) the number of railway routes whose 607. SHAI E. AVYAPPU REDDY: Will electrification is proposed to becompieted in the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to the year 1988-89; and state: (b) whether there are proposals for (a) the expected production of concrete electrification of Hyderabad-Bangalore Rail- sleepersduringtheyear 1988 and during the way route? next three years; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) whether there is any manufacturing MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI unit of concrete sleepers in Kurnool district MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): <8> Electrification of Andhra Pradesh; and of the folloWing sections is expected to be 279 Wdtt." AnswelS FEBRUARY 25, 1988 • completed in 1988-89: at Jaunpur (Uttar Pradesh) on the pattern of the An India Institute of Medical Sciences; (i) Bina-Itarsi New Delhi; and

(ii) Ramgundam-Balharshah- (c) if not, the reasons thereof? Nagpur THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (iii) Nagpur-Narkhar MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAUlLY WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (iv) Guntur-Tenali (a) Establishment of hospitals and provision of medicare facilities is the responsibility of (v) Korba-Govra Road. the State Governments since the subject is included in the State list under the (d) No, Sir. Constitution of India. As such it is for the respective State Government to open Hos- Single Dose Vaccine against Rabies pitals in their areas, wherever required.

609. SHRI D.N. REDDY: Will the (b) No, Sir. Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL- FARE be pleased to state whether a single Cc) Does not arise. dose vaccine against rabies has been dis- covered as a cure in Western countries; if SO, whether such vaccines are available in In- Usefulness of "Collegen SheatH for dia? Treatment of Leprosy Patients

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 611. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY Minister of HEALTH AND FAMilY WEL- WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): FARE be pleased to state: The Government of .India has no such infor- mation of disoovery of a single dose vaccine (a) whether the Central Leather Re- as a cura against rabies in human beings, in search Institute (CLRI), Madras has devel- Western countries. oped a produd called 'Collegen Sheet' a biological dressing material which is claimed Setting up of Central Government to be very useful for dressing open skin Hospital at Jaunpur (Uttar Pradesh) surfaces of all descriptions such as burns, traumatic wounds with skin loss etc.; 610. SHRt KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (b) if so, whether Government have WELFARE be pleased to state: tested their efficacy through their own agen- cies and if so, with what results; (a) whether there is no Central Govern- ment Hospital with mode") facilities any (c) whether this can be used in the where in Eastern Uttar Pradesh and the management and treatment of leprosy pa- people of that part of the country have to go tients; and to long distances for treatment; (d) the financial implications of using (b) whether there is any proposal to let this new materiaJ vis-a-vis mnventional up • modem Central Government Hospital dressing material? PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Written AnsMn 282

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be IaJd on the Tabla of the House. MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) Yes, Sir. Step. for Fuel Con_rvatlon by rran. port Undertaking (b) Yes, Sir. The efficacy of Collegen Sheet for treatment of Ulcers in leprosy 613. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the patients has been tested by the I.C.M.R. and Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be the Central Leprosy Teaching and Research pleased to state: Institute, Chenglepattu. The results of the initial trials of the Collegen Sheet have re- (a) whether any steps have been taken vealed that it is more effective in healing of for saving fuel used by the Central and State Ulcer in leprosy patients. Transport Undertakings in view of the in- creasing demand and shrinking supply (c) Yes, Sir. position;

(d) The CX)st of Collegen Sheet is about (b) if so, the detaifs thereof and with two times that of Conventional dressing what results; and material. However, the total cost of treat- ment with Collegen may not be higher due to (c) the future plans for effecting fuel quicker wound healing. conservation?

Canadian off8r for Improvement of Urban Transport and Cargo Handling Vessels THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT 612. SHAI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the (SHAI RAJESH PILOT): (8) and (b). Steps Mfnister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be taken by various public sector transport pleased to state: undertakings. for fuel saving include ensur- ing of better maintenance of vehicles, or- (a) whether the Canadian Transport ganising appropriate training courses forth. Minister during his racent visit has offered drivers, titmant of speed oontrol devices to their tectmological know-how for improving optim ise fuel consumption and phase wise urban mass transport, cargo handling ves- induction of buses with reduced waights. sels and movement of vessels in the The resultant annual savings in high speed crowded ports; diesel oil, as a result of various steps taken has not been reliably estimated. (b) if so, the terms and conditions under which Canada will give their technological know-how in these matters; and (c) Future plan of action for energy conservation in road transport sector is to (c) the reaction of the Government continue these steps by wider adoption. as thereto? also by use of bus-chassis and bus-body as per specifications designed consequent to the research by Central Institute of Road THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Transport, Puna/AIR I. A ceU is specially MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT constituted in CIRT. Pun. to monitor the (SHRI RAJESH PilOT): (a) to (c). The re- progress in achieving the measur•• quired information is being collected and will adopted. 283 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Wrltt9n Answers 284

Cooperation between India and Canada of global tender. In the field of Railways World AIDS Conference 614. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE 615. SHRt BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- PATIL: TIL: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMIL V WELFARE be pleased state: Will the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to state: (a) the outcome of the "World Summitof Ministers of Health on Programmes for AIDS (a) whether the railways are negotiating prevention" held in London in January, 1988; an agreement with Canadian firms to share their expertise and know-how in the high (b) whether India had mooted no AIDS technology areas of high horse power diesel certificate for foreigners as part of travel locomotives, telecommunications network documents as one of the preventive meas- for freight computerisation and the light rail ures to check spreading of AIDS; and transfXlrt systems for metrofXllitan cities; (c) if so, the reaction of the Conference (b) if so, the terms and conditions of to India's suggestion alongwith details of cooperation and collaboration in these ar- other suggestions made at the conference? eas;

(c) whether Government have evalu- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ated the Canadian offers with similar offers MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY from other countries; if so, how does the WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): Canadian offer compare with other coun- (a) and (b). During the World Summit of tries; and Ministers of Health on Programmes for AIDS prevention held in London from 26th to 28th (d) whether there is any proposal to January, 1988, the then Minister of Health & enter into a counter-trade agreement with Family Wetfare in his speech had proposed Canada? that it would be helpful if national govern- ments could accept HIV -free status health THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE certificates issued from the country of origin. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI This would avoid inconvenience to foreign MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No. Sir. Rail- tourists and that in due course the HIV - ways have under consideration the offers for free status certificate be made part of the High Horse Power locos received against travel documents carried by all foreign visi- tenders. A Canadian firm is one of the bid- tors. In addition, interaction between scien- ders. The offers are under evaluation and tists and researchers for research on AIDS the stage for negotiations or award of con- and prevention through public education tract has not reached. coupled with effective surveillance was also proposed. (b) Does not arise.

(c) The process of evaluation of offers (c) The summit has recognised the fad is not completed. that there could be a different strategy for AIDS control in countries which are yet fre8 (d) This will be decided after finalization from H IV infection. 285 Written AnswsfS PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 286 Unauthorised Vendors and Cleanliness [English] at oalhl Railway Stations Late running of Neelachal Expr.ss 616. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- TIL: Will the ~inister of RAILWAYS be 618. SHRt SOMNATH RATH: Will the pleased to state: Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state:

(a) whetlier a Railway Task Force has (a) whether Neelachal Express be.. been set up recently to look into the prob- tween Puri and New Delhi is running late lems of unauthorised vendors and the gen- regularly thereby causing much inconven- eral cleanliness of the Delhi and New Delhi ience to the passengers; railway stations; and (b) if so, the steps proposed to be taken (b) if so, the broad faatures thereof? to ensure its punctuality;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) whether there is any proposal to MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI reduce the h.mning time of the train, if neces- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b). Yes, sary, by changing its route; and Sir. A special task force consisting of com- mercial staff, R.P.F. and G.R.P. personnel (d) whether A.C. ChairCarcoaches are has been formed. As a result of the efforts proposed to be provided both in Neelachal made by this task force a total of 2466 anti- and New Delhi-Puri Expresses at an early social elements including 103 unauthorised date? vendors have been apprehended and prosecuted during the month of January, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 1988, and general cleanliness improved. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) The [ Translation] punctuality of Neelachal Express ~uring January Ad '88 was 3t.5°k and February'SS % (upto 15th) 66.7 • Proposal to Increase Bus Fares In Deihl (b) Efforts continue to improve the 617. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRI- position further by intensive chasing and PATHI: Will the Minister of SURFACE close monitoring. TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (c) No, Sir. It is well patronised on its (a) whether there is any proposal to existing route. increase bus fares in Delhi; and (d) No, Sir. At present, there is acute (b) if so, the reasons therefor? shortage of A.C. Chair Cars on Indian Rail- ways.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Protest of Indian Dental Association MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT R.: Advertlse,..nt of Pan Ma_I•• (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): (a) and (b). Various measures for Improving the performance of 619. DR. B.L SHAILESH: Will the OTC including rationalisation of fares are Minister of HEALTH AND FAMilY WEL- under consideration of Government. FARE be pleased to state: 287 Written AnSW81S FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written AnsW918 288

(a) whether the Indian Dental Associa- sax-determination tests. tion has made a strong plea for banning commercial advertisements of pan masalas Creation of Awaren... of Aids on Ooordarshan. AIR and in the newspapers in view of their health hazards; and 621. DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMilY WEL- (b) if so, what steps Government have FARE be pleased to state: taken or propose to take to educate the people about the ill-effects of pan masalas (a) whether 1.5 lakh cases of AIDS and similar prodUdS, known to initiate or have been reported around the world during cause mouth cancer? the year 1987 as stated by WHO;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, whether the number of AIDS MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY cases are increasing in India; and WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) and (b). Government has seen the press (c) steps Government propose to take report issued by Indian Dental Association to bring awareness of AIDS among the about alleged harmful effects of Pan Masala. people? However as there are inadequate epidemi- ological studies on this aspect, it is very THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE difficult to categorically state whether con- MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY sumption of Pan masala causes mouth WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): cancer. (a) to (c). According to the estimates made by the World Health Organisation, the num- Ban on Sex Determination Clinics ber of officially reported AIDS cases as on 1.1.1988 were 73,747. However, since all 620. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will the cases are not reported, the WHO has esti- Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WEL· mated the total number of AIDS cases all FARE be pleased to state: over the World to be approximately 1.5 lakhs. (a) whether there has recently been a mushrooF'T"ing of sex determination private clinics throughout the country; Based on the country-wide surveillance and screening of persons belonging to high (b) if so. wt,ether Government are risk groups namely. foreigners including considering the desirability of putting ban on foreign students, sexually transmitted dis· the sex determination tests by such clinics ease patients. prostitutes and intravenous through a Centralleg;slation; and drug abusers, the cumUlative number of full blown AIDS cases detected in India as on (c) if not, the reasons therefor? 1.1.1987 were 6 and as on 1.1.88 was 15. Out of 15 full blown cases of AIDS in India. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE S were Indians. 6 were foreigners and 1, a MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY non-resident Indian. rt would thus be seen WELFARE (KUMARt SAROJ KHAPARDE): that the number of AIDS cases in India is (a)to (c). No data is available in the Ministry small and 'the evidence suggests that the 8 in this regard. However. the Government Indians who succumbed to the disease has constituted a small committee of experts contracted the infection during their stay to go into the various aspects of regulating abroad. 289 Wtftlen Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Written An,... 290 The line of action baing pursued at coaches on Shekhawati Express. present is prevention through public educa- tion coupled with·effective surveillance. The (b) and (c) Since the running of goods Government proposes to intensify public trains between Dabla and Singhan. is not education through mass media and expan- regular there is no plan to attach passenger sion of surveillance activities and training of coaches on these trains. workers to build up capabilities for detection, diagnosis and treatment of AIDS casas. Production by Khetri Project

[ Translation] 623. SHRt MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be PToposalforP.s.. ngerCoache.to pleased to state: Goods Train running betw.en Oabla and Singhan. (a) the details of production made by Khetri COpper Project so far; 622. SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to (b) whether the production of gold and state: silver is also being made at this copper project; (a) the time by which A.C. II tier coaches are expected to be attached to (c) if so, the year-wise quantity thereof; Shekhawati Express; and

(b) whether there is any proposal to (d) the details of year-wise expenditure attach passenger coaches to the goods train on welfare activities in Khetri Copper Proj- which run only for Copper Project from ect? Dabla Railway Station to Singh ana; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, the time by which these ar- DEPARTMENT OF MINES IN THE MINIS- rangements are likely to be provided? TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI RAMANAND YADAV): (a) to (c). The Pro· THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE dudion of blister copper and refined oopper MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (cathodes) at Khetri Copper Complex MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Presently due (KeC), Rajasthan during the last two years to acute shortage of Metre Gauge A. C. II tier and so far during 1987-88 (Apr. '87.Jan. '88) coaches, there is no plan to attach such is as follows:-

Unit .' Tonnes

1985-1986 1986-87 1987.. 88 (Apr. '87- Jan. '88) (Prov. )

Blister copper 20010 24826 16332

Refined Copper (cathodes) 17722 23000 15502 291 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25,1988 Written Answers 292

During the process of refining of copper, Copper Complex, GhatsUa as no such facil- exists at KCC. The anode slime gener- anode slime, which contains gold and silver ity ated at Kec during the last 2 years and that is generated. These are recovered at the anticipated during the current year 1987-88 precious metals recovery plant at Indian is as under:-

Tonnes

1985-86 1986-87 1987-98 (Anticipated)

78 71 70

The expenditure incurred on social welfare activities at Kee during the last 2 years and that anticipated for the current year 1987-88 is as under:-

(Rs. in Crores)

1985-86 1986-87 1987-88 (Anticipated)

4.09 4.14 4.00

Water Supply for Khetri Project plex (KCC) is tothe extent of 9 million gallons per day. The water is obtained from various 624. SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Will tubewells located in Chaonra-Jodhpura the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be area at a distance of 27 to 42 kms from Kee pleased to state: and from deep tubewells located at Khet- rinagar township. (a) the quantum of water required for the Khetri Copper Project and the arrange- (b) No, Sir. ments made to get this water; (c) does not arise. (b) whether due to the use of this water, the water level of wells has fallen in that region; and Setting up of Stadium at Jhunjhunu

(c) If so, howthefarmers affected by the 625. SHRI MOHD. AYUB KHAN: Will felll of Water level ore bQing compensated? the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- VELOPMENT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF MINES IN THE MINIS- (a) the amount provided so far for the TRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI stadium sanctioned tor Jhunjhunu and the RAMANAND YADAV)' (£1) The quantum of amount proposed to be provided further water required for the Khetri Copper Com- therefor; 293 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 294

(b) the time by which the stadium is (b) Does not arise. likely ~o ~ completed; [Eng/ish] (c) whether this stadium is proposed to be named as Indira Gandhi Stadium; and Contract to a US Company to take out Jaribooti from Himalaya Region (d) if not, the reasons therefor? 627. SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMJL Y DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS WELFARE be pleased to state: AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) whether Union Government have HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT awarded a contract to US company to take (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): (a) Govt. out Jaribooti from the Himalaya Region; of India has approved an amount of Rs. 5.00 lakhs for' the construction of a stadium at (b) if so, the name of the company to Jhunjhunu. As. 2.50 lakhs has been re- whom the contract has been awarded; and leased so far as first instalment. The remain- ing sum of Rs. 2.50 lakhs will be released on (c) the terms of the contract? receipt of utilization certificate & progress report in respect of the stadium. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY (b) State Government has informed us WELFARE (KUMARI SAAOJ KHAPARDE): that the stadium is likely to be completed in (a) The Ministry of Health & Family Welfare about two years time. have no information in this regard.

(c)and (d). According to State Govt., no (b) and (c). Does not arise. decision has yet been taken to name this stadium as Iindira Gandhi Stadium'. High Powered Committee Report on Chattopadhyaya Commission Recom- Stoppage of Malwa Express at GanJba- mendations sauda Station 628. DR. A. K. PATEL: Will the Minister 626. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: be pleased to state:

(a) whether there is any proposal to (a) whether the reconstituted Empow- provide a stoppage of Malwa Express at ered Committee set up to examine the rec- Ganjbasauda Station on Central Railway; ommendations made by Chattopadhyaya and Commission on School teachers has sub- mitted its report: (b) if so, the time by which this facility is likely to be provided? (b) if so, when; and

(c) the action taken on various recom- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ,mendations of the Committee? MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE I:'! T! W 295 Written AnSW9" FEBRUARY 25,1988 Written AnSW91S 296 DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND Provision of Adequate fund. for Engl- CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN n•• rlng College of Jaml.Ulllia I.'amla RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) No. Sir. 630. SHRI KHURSHID ALAM KHAN: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (b) and (c). Do not arise. (a) whether the All India Council of ShanJa Chair for 8erhampur University Technical Education has recommended that the Engineering College of the Jamia Millia lslamia, New Delhi, should be provided 629. SHRIRADHAKANTADIGAL:Wili adequate funds for acquiring the necessary the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DE- equipment for the laooratory and construe· VELOPMENT be pleased to state: tlon of building;

(a) whether there is a proposal to intro- (b) Hso, the action taken on the recom- duce IBhanja Chair' for Berhampur Univer- mendations so far; and s~y in Orissa; (c) the reasons for delay in taking action in the matter? (b) whether the proposal has been approved by the Berhampur University; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (c) if so, the steps taken by Government CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN to implement the above proposal; and RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. SHAHI): (a) to (c). Based on the report of the Visiting Expert Committee, the All India (d) the details thereof? Council of Technical Education has only recently approved the proposal of the Jamia THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Millia Islamia regarding its Engineering Col- DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND lege and further action to provide funds to CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN the Jamia would be taken by the University RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. Grants Commission. SHAHI): (a) and (b). As a part of its VII Plan Development proposals, the University has Documentary of 15th Century HIJra Era proposed the setting up a Centre of Regional Studies for research into Bhanja Literature. 631. SHRI KHURSHID ALAM KHAN: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE (c) and (d). The CommIttee which ex- DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: amined the VII Plan proposal of the Univer- sity, suggested that the e,stablishment of a (a) whether a documentary has been Regional Study Centre could be considered produced in connection with the celebration under the Commission's programme of of the 15th Century Hijra Era; and Special Assistance to selected depart· ments. The UniverSity was informed of this (b) jf so, the reasons for not screening decIsion. However, a revised proposal for the same? consideration under the Special Assistance programme has not been received so far. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PHALGUNA e, 1909 {SAKA) Written An • .,.,. 298 DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCTION AND (b) if so, the details thereof? CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF mE SHAHI): (a) A documentary film entitled MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 'Islam in India' has been produced as part of MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) Ves, Sir. It is the 1400 Hijra Era Celebrations. proposed to seek a loan from the World Bank for renewal/upgradation of about 4,000 kms. (b) The film is yet to be officially taken of track on trunk routes, deploying modern over by the Government. mechanised metbods.

University Status to Jamia-Mlilia (b) The project framed for World Bank Islamla Assistance will involve foreign exchange element to cover cost of imported rails, track 632. SHRI KHURSHID ALAM KHAN: machines, technical assistance and train .. Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE ing. Loan expected to be negotiated with the DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: World Bank is of the order of Rs. 450 crores.

(a) whether it has been approved in Poaching Migratory Birds In Chllka principle that Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi Lake will get the full-fledged status of a university; 634. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: (b) if so, the reasons for delay in intro- Will the Minister of ENVIRONMENT AND ducing the Bill in Parliament; and FORESTS be pleased to state:

(c) whether the Bill is likely to be intro- (a) whether large scale poaching of duced in the current session of Parliament? migratory birds is continuing at the Chilka lake in Orissa; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCAITON AND (b) if so, the details of steps taken to CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN save the migrating birds at Chifka lake? RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRt L.P. SHAHI): (a) to (c). The proposal of the Jamia THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Millia Islamia for declaring it as statutory MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR .. university under an Act of Parliament is ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) No, Sir. under examination. (b) Precautionary measures have, however, been taken to proted the migra" Assistance from International Financial tory birds. These include posting of protec- Agencies tion staff and regular patrolling throughout the lake with motor boats. 633. PROF. P.J. KUAIEN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: Universities' Role In Implementation of (a) whether the Railways have any new Education Policy proposal to seek assistance from any inter- national financial agencies to meet the re- 635. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHV: Will the quirements of modernisation of railway net- Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL- work; and OPMENT be pleased to state: 299 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 300

(a) the conclusions arrived at the two- aqulpped to effectively serve this day first national conference on the rofe of function. universities in the implementation of the new educational policy held in Hyderabad in the 3. It was also felt that both uniform- third week of December, 1987; and ity and excellence are impera- tive concerns of higher educa- (b) the action proposed to be taken tion and that suitable measures thereon especially in view of the need for may be worked out so that one is working out a scheme of genuine autonomy not sacrificed in the course of for the universities? others.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 4. Courses at various levels should DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND be so restructured to make them CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN more relevant to social needs. RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI loP. SHAHI): (a) The conclusions arrived at the 5. Extension work and experience Conference organised by the Association of should be made an integral part Indian Universities are given in the state- of educational system. ment below. 6. Educational instit.utions should (b) The Association of Indian Universi- be brought into active and pro- ties has set up a committee to examine the ductive interaction with different conclusions arrived at the National Confer· social agencies. ence on the role of Urtiversities in the im- plementation of the New Education Policy 7. Every effort should be made to held in Hyderabad and make specific recom- raise the standard of research to mendations and also draw up a plan of excellence and also to make action to ensure genuine autonomy in the research meaningful and useful. working of universities. In this context an effective sys- tem of monitoring research in the STATEMENT university should be evolved.

1. Every effort should be made to 8.1 Autonomy of functioning should make Higher Education serve as be encouraged and promoted at an instrument to inculcate per- various levels including Univer- sonal and social values in the sity Departments, Centres and students. This may be done by Colleges. In this context autono- suitably structuring the courses mous colleges should be pro- and by adopting effective teach- vided necessary support and ing strategies. encouragement.

2. Universities should undertake 8.2 The experiment of autonomous the task of Faculty development colleges which began in 1978 in a planned manner to equip the and got a fillip in the New Educa- teacher both on the point of tion Policy (1986) must be con- subject content and also teach- tinued and strengthened further ing skills. AcademIC Staff Col- by overcoming whataver oppo- leges should be so designed and sition there may be for it in cer- 301 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6. 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 302

tain states and among certain organise the Apex Body. The sections of teachers. National Council for Higher Education which can contribute 8.3 The funds to the autonomous a good deaf towards implement- colleges for which they are eli- ing NEP. gible each year under the UGC guidelines for autonomy, must 11. Suitable system of evaluating of be released to them without de- the functioning of various educa- lay. tional institutions be evolved.

B.4 Before each five year plan is 12. Universities and Institutes of announced, the autonomous Higher Education should adopt colleges may be encouraged to strategy of distance education prepare a detailed 5 year plan of and more recent developments educational action for the plan in the field of educational tech- period clearly specifying goals, nology. objectives and expected out- comes. It is suggested ht funding 13. A separate channel be provided from the next five-year plan pe- for TV IRadio" exclusively for riod be based on such detailed educatIon plans of action and their rele- vance. 14. Specific plans should be de- signed for networking of rural 8.5 The working of the autonomous institutions with eXisting institu- colleges should be systemati- tions and the community. cally monitored periodically. Appropriate Inspection 15. A Sports Faculty with all its spe- Commissions with UGC, State cialisations, be established in all and University representatives the Universities, as in other may be appointed for the pur- countries. pose. Detailed reports may be sought from the colleges before 16. A Special Women's Cell be cre- actual on-the-spot inspection. ated in all the Universities for educating women who are in 9. States Council for Higher Edu- special need and distress. cation be constituted to monitor the functioning of Universities and other Institutions of Higher Rehabilitation of Road Accident Victims Education, and also to co-ordi- nate the functioning of these 636. SHAI K. RAMAMUATHY: Will the Institutions. The details regard- Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILV WEL- ing the constitution and specific FARE be pleased to state: functions of these Councils may be worked out. (a) whether Government have not paid much attention to the creation of facilities of 10. Immediate steps should be rehabilitation of thousands of bed-ridden but taken to constitute State Coun- mentally alert people due to spinal cord cils of Higher Education and injuries suffered in road accidents; 303 Written AnsW818 FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written AnswelS 304

(b) whether there is no speciality like speeding up of track renewals, upgradation physiotherapy in Medical Colleges of the of posts of safety officers to JA grade and country; and strict enforcement of rules.

(c) if so, the steps being taken to help (b) Action has been taken to implement the road accident victims in the country? the recommendations within the available resources. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY Navodaya Vidyalayas In Kerala WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): (a) to (c). There is a Spinal Cord Injury 638. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will the Centre at K.G. Medical College, Lucknow Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL· and one small spinal cord injury unit in OPMENT be pleased to state: Safdarjang Hospital, New Delhi. The Spinal Cord Injury Centre, Kirkee, Pune has been (a) the reasons for the delay in setting set up for looking after defence personnel. up Navodaya Vidyalayas in districts of Ker- The departments of Physical Medicine and ala where there are no Navodaya Rehabilitation have already been made Vidyalayas; and mandatory for all Medical colleges by the Medical Council of India. In order to provide (b) the time by which these are likely to timely treatment to road side victims, emer- be set up? gencydapartments are functioning in almost all the Government Hospitals. These pa- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tients are subsequently treated in the con- DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND cerned speciality in the hospital. CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. Ramedlal measure. suggested by High SHAHI): (a) and (b). The establishment of Leve. Multi-Disciplinary Safety Task Navodaya Vidyalayas depends, in the first Forces instance, upon the offer of suitable and adequate landlbuildings by the StatelUnion 637. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will the Territory Governments concerned. In Ker- Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: ala, Navodaya Vidyalayas have so far been sanctioned in 10 out of the 14 districts. The (a) the remedial measures suggested remaining districts are likely to be sanc- by the Four High Level Multi-Disciplinary tioned the Navodaya Vidyalayas by 1990. Safety Task Forces set up in 1985·86 to identify accident·prone areas on the Zonal Railways; and U.G.C. Grants to College. In Kerala

(b) the action taken thereon? 639. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVEL- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE OPMENT be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (8) Important (a) the amount of grants given by the remadial measures recommended by the UniverSIty Grants Commission to each Col- Multi-disciplinary Safety Task Forces were lege of Kerala in the years 1985-86, 1986-87 induction of audio visual aids at level cross- and 1987-88 separately and details regard- ings, improved maintenance practices, ing their utilisation; 305 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 306

(b) whether some colleges have larities in the maintenance of accounts in misutilised the grants; and respect of the grant sanctioned to Mifad-E .. Sherif College) Kayamkulam (Kerala Uni· (c) if SO, the names of those colleges versity). The Commission requested the and the action taken by the University Diredor of Collegiate Education, Kerala to Grants Commission? conduct an inquiry into the matter. There has been no response so far from the Director- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ate. Another complaint alleging that ths S.N. DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND College, Quiton (Kerala University) has ob- CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN tained huge grants by misrepresentating RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. information was received in July, 1987. The SHAHI): (a) A statement showing the grants complaint was referred to the Registrar, paid to colleges in Kerala during the years Kerala University for comments. No reply 1985-86 to 1987-88 (so far) is given below. has been received so far. In both the cases, the Commission has decided not to release (b) and (c). A complaint was received in any further grants till the complaints are 1963 alleging misappropriation and irregu- settled. 307 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written Answers 308

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,_ ex) en ..- to C\I C\J ~ (") ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "M ('f') 327Wdlten Answens FEBRUARY 25.1988 Wn1Ien AnsWfn 328 Social For.atry Progl1lmme (b) The targets for afforestation are being sat on yearly basis. Accordingly the 640. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will the afforestation targets 88t for the first four Ministry of ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- years of the Seventh Plan are given below: , ESTS be pla~ to atate:

(a) whether the target set und8r~sociat Years Targets (ha.) forestry scheme in Karala during the Sixth Five Year Plan period had been achieved; 1985-86 30,000

(b) the target set for Kerala for the 1986-87 60,000 Seventh Plan period, and 1987-88 85,000 (c) the details of central assistance given to Karala for this purpose and expen- 1988-89 1,02,000 diture incurred so far? (Proposed)

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- (c) The allocated central assistance for ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) Yes, Sir .. afforestation programmes given to Kerala Against the afforestation target of 0.95 lakh and expenditure incurred for the first three ha. during the Sixth Plan Period an area of years of the Seventh Plan period are given 1.18 lakh ha. have been planted. below:

Years Amount of Central Expenditure as reported assistance allocated by the State (Rs. in lakhs)

1985-86 783.40 337.83

1986-87 831.50 665.58

1981-88 572.75 Reports not due.

Linking of DI8trict Headquarters by nected by rail with the name of the nearest Railway Lin •• rail head and distance therefrom; and

641. SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDDIN: Will (c) the names of those which have been the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to taken up or are under consideration are state: likely to be brought on the map by the end of the cutrent plan? the names of District Headquarters in the country, State/Union Territory-wise, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE which are not yet on the railways map; MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (8) 10 (c). Infor- . (b) the names of those which, from a mation is being collected and will be laid on technical angl8, ara not likely to be con- the Table ot the Sabh_.. ·329 wnn.n An ..... PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) Wr/Iten An• ..,. 330 1blnllerallm.nts (English)

643. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will PROF. SAIFUDOIN SOZ: Spurious the Minister of RAilWA YS be pleased to drugs are supplied to the MPs. You can state: imagine what will be happening in.. all the hospitals in Delhi. (a) the total number of cases of train derailments reported since January, 1987; [ Translation] and MR. SPEAKER: Please tall me. (b) whether Railways have considered changing the wheel design to prevent derail- [Eng/ish] ments? PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I saw All THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE India Institute of Medical Sciences in bad. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI shape. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) During the period January. 1987 to January. 1988, [ Translation] there were 535 derailments. MR. SPEAKER: Why all of you •• (b) No, Sir. standing? What is the use of doing so?

( Interruptions)

12.00 hrs. [English]

[English] PROF. SAIFUDDJN SOZ: I will give ttto you in writing. I wrote to the Minister. Shadid PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): not even acknowledge that letter. It involves my privilege. I have a complaint against the Health Ministry ... [ Translation]

[ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I did not ask you to make a speech. I have heard you. MR. SPEAKER: You give me in writing. [English) [English] PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Kindly listen PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Kindly listen to me for a while more. It was during the to me for half-a-minute. r have raised a session of Parliament last time that I wrote to question with the Minister ~f State for Health the Minister. But she did not even acknowl- during the last session regarding the medi- edge that letter... (Interruptions) cal unit here ...

[ Translation] [ Translation]

t.tR. SPEAKER: Give me in writing. MR. SPEAKER: It would not do, you pIe_. give me in writing. 331 Written AnsWBIS FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Written AnsW8IS 332 (Interruptions) look here. You have given it to me. I have got it.... MR.. SPEAKER: Please sit down. SHRIK.R. NATARAJAN: Hewastaken ( Interruptions) away forcibly to Madras.

MR. SPEAKER: I have already told DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN (Chen- you. For heaven's sake, do not do so. gaJpattu): Physically we saw. On the street all the people saw it ... (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Hoh'ble Members, [English] you should not do like this. There is a law. Thera are law enforcing agencies also. I MR. SPEAKER: You give it to me; I will have sent that report and marked it urgent to look into it. the Home Minister. If there is anything, it can be investigated. PROF. SAIFUDD IN SOZ: I will make :l statement tomorrow under rule 377. SHRI P. KOLANDAIVElU (Gobichettl- palayam): PIAase permit me for one min- ( Interruptions) ute ....

[ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: This is a police case.

MR. SPEAKER: I have told you. Please SHRI P. KOlANDAIVEI U: Ple_ give me in writing. bear with me for a minute. He has given a telegram to the hon. !jpeaker.... (Intenup- ( Interruptions) tion)**

[English] MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed.

PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: She should ( In terruptions)· * make a statement. It is a question of my privilega. MR. SPEAKER: Nothing goes on rec- ord. [ Trans/ation] (Interruptions) **

MR. SPEAKER: You please sit down. MR. SPEAKER: I have already said that there is a I~w snforcing agency in this ( Interruptions) country. I have already forwarded your application to the Home Minister concerned [English] immediately on its receipt yesterday. Ifthare IS anything, it can be proceeded with under SHRI K.R. NATARAJAN (Oindlgul): the law. There is no problem. Let us see to it. Yesterday. at about 2.30 p.m ... (lnterrup- How can you do it here? You have given it to t;ons) me. And I have done my job. There is no fun in it now. This is something outside and not MR. SPEAKER: This is not the thing . here.

.. Not recorded. 333 Written AnSWBIS PHALGUNA 6. 1909 (SAKA) Written AnswBtS 334 ( Interruptions) ing of the Members of Parliament .•• (inter- ruptions). SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY (Coimba- tore): Sir, the telephone engineers all over MR. SllEAKER: Not allowed. (Interrup- India are on strike. As a result, the tele- tions) phones are not working all over India. Gov- ernment should intervene.... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Look here. I have got everything with me. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (S. BUTA SINGH): Sir, you were kind PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, enough yesterday to send me a complaint before you make a comment. let me make an signed by some of the han. Members from observation .... (/nte"uptions). the AIADMK. I made immediate queries and I was told that this is a voluntary statement MR. SPEAKER: I have got it. I have got which has come in the Press from that han. everything with me ... Member. There is no coercion used on him. ( Interruptions) SHAI P. KOLANDAIVELU: It is a ques- tion of privilege... (Interruptions). [ Translation]

MR. SPEAKER: We will see to it You MR. SPEAKER: What is the use. can write to me. [EnglishJ SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: It is a ques- tion of privilege because they have made a P!ease order... false complaint. It is a concocted story ... ( Interruptions). ( Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kolandaivelu, you can write to me. [English]

SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: I have al- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Arif ready given a notice, Sir. Mohammad must be allowed to make a full statement. There has been a precedent. ... MR. SPEAKER: I will look into it. ( Interruptions).

SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: h is a very MR. SPEAKER: If you do not sto,:'. serious matter. Sir. nobody will stop.

MR. SPEAKER: I will look into it. [ Trans/ation] PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Ra- japur): Sir, I am raising a very serious issue ( Interruptions) today. Unfortunately, the Special Branch of the Police in Delhi is having a surveillance on MR. SPEAKER: What are you doing? the Members of Parliament... (Interrup- Why do not you stop? tions). It is a violation of the dignity of the Members. They are obstruaing the function~ ( Intflffuptions) 335 Witten Ans..,. FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Written Answenl 338 (English) SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAt: Who wil pro- teet? MR. SPEAKER: What is this? Do not youf.. 1 ashamed? I am on my legs. Sit down MR. SPEAKER: Action will be taken now... against an unathorised attempt.

(Interruptions) (Interruptions)

(Trans/ation] MR. SPEAKER: I tell you there is no usa of doing so. Why are you dOing so? MR. SPEAKER: I am saying that I am on my legs, what is this going on? (Interruptions)

(Interruptions) [English]

MR. SPEAKER: Plaase sit down. I MR. SPEAKER: Just wait ... have since received all the motions. ( Interruptions) [English] MR. SPEAKER: Whatarayoudoing? .. I have got the motion with me. Mr. Professor, you have raised it, Mr. Arif Mo- ( Interruptions) hammad Khan has given it to me. I have got everything .... PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, I appeal to you ... ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: Nothing goes on rec- MR. SPEAKER: What is happening to ord ... you? Please sit down. (Interruptions) .* [ Interruptions] S. BUlA SINGH: Mr. Speaker, Sir, with [English] your permission may I make a submission on this point? MR. SPEAKER: Why can't you sit down? SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat): Sir, first Arif Mohd. Khan should be allowed [ Trans/ation) to make a statement, then the Home Minis- ter can make a submission. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI (Ghosi): This type of misbehaviour with an hone Mem- MA. SPEAKER: h is under my consid- bar..... eration and withqut fads I am not going to say nothing .... MR. SPEAKER: Whydonatyoua.ten? Your right wi be proteded. ( 'ntetrUptions) •• Not ntCOrded. 337 Wnn.n AnSwelS PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (&AKA) MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed ..• [English]

( Interruptions)·· SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Sir, how you propose to deal with this matter? MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. MR. SPEAKER: First, I want to know ( Interruptions) *. what the facts are.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: In the SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: How will you past you have allowed Members to make a know? statement. One Member who happel s to be a Minister was allowed to make a statement. MR. SPEAKER: I have already taken (/nt9rruptions). Let the Member make a action. statement in the House. There are prece- dents .... ( Interruptions)

( Int9rruptions) SHRIINDRAJITGUPTA: You have to hear his version as well as Government's [ Translation] version.

MR. SPEAKER: Professor Saheb, your ( Interruptions) annoyance will not serve any purpose, be· cause, I cannot do anything until and unless MR. SPEAKER: No, I have got every- I receive the facts and go into them. thing with me.

[English] ( Int9rruptions)**

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: But let MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. him make a statement. ( Interruptions)" MR. SPEAKER: I can't. MR. SPEAKER: I have to see what the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: There case is, what the facts are, and then decide have been precedents. accordingly. And I can assure you that I will do whatever is needed and whatever I, legally possible. ( Interruptions) S. BUTA SINGH: Mr. Speaker. Sir•••• MR. SPEAKER: I know, Sir. (Interruptions)

( Interruptions) SHRI N. V.N. SOMU (Madras North): Let us know what t.as happened. [ Translation) MR. SPEAKER: You will know when I have to act as the situation demands. the inquiry takes place .

•• Not recorded. 339 Wrlften AnswelS FEBRUARY 25,1988 Written AnswelS 340

(Interruptions) ** [ TranslatIOn]

MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. MR. SPEAKER: Why are you doing so. What has gone wrong with you?

(Interruptions) ir*

s. BUT,f\ SINGH: Mr. Speaker, Sir, ( Int8"Uptions) yesterday you had asked me to find out the facts about this alleged complaint of Shri Ant [English] Mohammad Khan. Sir. I have thfl facts with me. If you perma me. I can share them with PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: There the House or I can convey them to you in is a prima facie caSA Sir, it is unjustified. your Chamber. I have the facts with me, I am When a MembAf is attacked by the police, ready. you don't allow the Member to make a prima facie caso. MR. SPEAKER: You give the facts to me. S. SUTA SINGH: No, this is bas9less. Nobody was attacked by the Police. This is wrong. There was sheer goondaism on the ( Interruptions) part of somebody in front of the Janata Party office. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Gentlemen, every- thing has to be done according to the rules. MR. SPEAKER: I have to find out. For me. I would like to safeguard the inter- ests of each Member of this House and if they have been Infringed, I would like to take [ Trans/ation] action against that infringement. There is no need for you to speak so [ Translation] loudly. I am already listening to you. I tell you I shall try to do full justice. But before I ask him to speak, ( Interruptions)

(English] [English] First I want to understand, I want to understand this and that and then I will come MR. SPEAKER: I will have to find out to you. what has happened.

(Interruptions) (InterruptIOns)

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir. MR. SPEAKER: No. why don't you hear him? Do we take.t that you are not prepared to listen to the prima PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: In the facie case? When a Member IS attacked. past. you had allowed the Members to make you don't give him a hearing. (Interruptions) a statement.

•• Not recorded. 341 Wnlten AnswetS PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Written AnsWtllS 34 [ Translation] [English]

MR. SPEAKER: Had it been a situation PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: In the of that nature under which those statements Sixth Lok Sabha, Kumar; Saroj Khaparde were allowed, I would have definitely bowed was rightly allowed to make a statement ita to your wishes. But it is not a case of that the House and we all condemned the attad\ type. I shan see what is there in it. I shall that had taken pJace. (Interruptions) listen to Shri Am also and find out from him. In this House and everywhere state- ( Interruptions) ments have been allowed to be made. Shr; Bhogendra Jha was allowed to make:a SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: statement. A lady member who was dis .. complain to you that I was prevented from honoured was allowed to make a statemerU. entering the House. "is a prima facieprotedion that you have~ give. And you have to allow the meml:).8r [English] concerned to put forward his point of view. You can listen to his statement and give a MR. SPEAKER: I have to find out. ruling afterwards. A prima facie statement:of facts has to be allowed to be made on the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: When Mr. floor of the House. There is a precedent for BhogendraJha complained of assault by the it. police, you allowed him to make a statement in the House and the matter had been re- [ Translation] ferred to the Privileges Committee. MR. SPEAKER: Look. there is a point. [ Translation] The truth come,:, to the fore very easily. It is just like ~the case of Sarojji. Some riot took MR. SPEAKER: I shall go into the facts place and clothes were torn. You want mato and do the needful. If necessary, I shall allow create such a situation here. If I do so, then that also. tomorrow ... ( Interruptions) [English] MR. SPEAKEP: Please wait for a min- PROF: MADHU DANDAVATE: Imme- ute. I am speaking. diately it was done. Shri Bhogendra Jha was allowed to make a statement in the House. If I ask Shri Am to give the facts, then I ( Interruptions) shall have to ask him also to present this view point and then a debate will start. MR. SPEAKER: It is under my consid- eration. I will consider it. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; Please do ask. [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: 1 hen it wiJllaad to a SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT debate. (Nagpur): Mr. Speaker. Sir, I would like to know if the police officer was beaten. The [Eng/ish] police officer, who was beaten, may be called in here. (/nteffuptions) PROF. MADHU OANDAVATE: It is FEBRUARY 25. 1988 SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR (Chimur) : What mora·· can happen? There should be MR. SPEAKER: Only two of them will a limit to.*· be allowed. Arifji. ( Interruptions)

(Interruptions) SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: Sir, he does not have any right to take the tima allotted to me. You have given me permis- sion to speak. 12.18. hr.. MR. SPEAKER: Please continue. PERSONAL EXPLANATION BY MEM· BER SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN:··

[ Translation] ( Interruptions)

SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN (Bah- [English 1 rBieh): Mr. Speaker, Sir.lthankyouforgiving me an opportunity to speak on the notice for MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Member shall Breach of Privilege given by me. never refer to the other House. This will not iorm-a part of the record. Sir, the incident which occured yester- day cannot be viewed in isolation. My Com- ( Intenvptions) plaint is, and you may have read it also. that when after the meeting • I came ~out of the [ Trans/ation} Janata Party offICe and sat inside my car and as the car approached the gate, foUl persons MR. SPEAKER: You speak about your standing near tho bushes asked me to stop complaint. the car. I was alon8 in the car and I stopped. Thay asked me as to what decisions were SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: taken In the meeting. Those who stopped me were not in police uniform. So it was not possible for me to ... (/nterruptions) ... reoognise them as belonging to the police force. They were in plain clothes. That is why MR. SPEAKER: What is this? Order. I asked them. Subsequently. I told them that . Order. I was going to the Parliament House. They said that it would be better if I gave the SHAI ARIF MOHAMr.tAD KHAN: They informfltion first. I stepped out of the car and asked me about the details of the meeting. I talked to them for 4 or 5 minutes. I told them replied that first. I would like to know as to that the way they were asking me... and who they were. On my asking them two- regarding myoid complaint that our tele- three times to disclose their identity, they phones ware being tapped, I received this said that they were from the Special Branch reply from your office only today. Similarly. and were on duty her. in order to find out as you may remember that from my to what decisions W8!'8 taken in the mgeting house .. ( Interruptions)

( IntllmJplions) It is related to this. Similar threats have

•• Exounaed as ordered by the Chair. 345 Personal Explanation PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) by Member 346

been given to me in the past also and I have ( Interruptions) complained earlier also. [ Translation] [English] MR. SPEAKER: Please continue, what MR. SPEAKER: I am restraining you to happened after that? the yesterday's incident. SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: Sir, at [ Translation] that time, the General Secretary of the

Janata Party I Shri Yashwant Sinha, Shri SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: I am Lakshmanna of Telugu Desam, who is a talking about yesterday's incident Member of the Rajya Sabha, and many senior journalists were also inside that room. If they feel ashamed of the happenings In their presence, those officials agreed that in the past, then I will not mention them ... they were asking the questions of their own (Interruptions)... I am talking about yester- and if he was not inclined to provide the day only . ... (Interruptions) .... information it did not matter. After sitting inside the room they said that they were Sir, if they keep on disturbing me in this questioning me as they were put on this duty way, I will not be able to continue. by the hon. Ministerof Home Affairs . ... (/nter- ruptions) ... Afterwards, I kept on talking for 4 or 5 minutes Meanwhile, as there are many other MR. SPEAKER: What happens to you? offices in that building besides that of the I do not know What you do ? Janata Party, one office-bearers of the Janata Party and some people working in ( Interruptions) other offices also gathered at that point where I was held up by those men. I told SHRI HAR',H RAWAT (Almora) : Now them that these men want me to tell them as he is referring t~ me hon. Minister of Home to what decisions were taken in the meeting. Affairs and later he will refer to the Hon. As the exchange of words heated up, many Prime Minister. other people also joined and they too said that no one had the authority to question me in this manner. I told those officials to come MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Rawat please sit inside with me and I shall talk to their senior down officers on phone. I shall ask whether they have been authorised to stop a Member of SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: Sir, Parliament on his way to Parliament House questions are being asked from that side and and force him to disclose the details of the I am being compelled to answer them. The meeting and threaten him. (Interruptions). fad is that they do not have the capacity to pressurise anyone. MR. SPEAKER: What is happening to you all? (Interruptions)

[English) MH. SPEAKER: You should stick to your subject. SHAt AAIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: Ifthey defy your directive, what can I do? ( Interruptions) 347 Personal Explanation FEBRUARY 25. 1988 by Member 348

SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji) It is right. let him make a statement After that you the case of a thief threatening the policeman give me two more minutes to speak. ... ( Interruptions) .. .. [English} MR. SPEAKER: Why are you making a noise without any reason? S. BUT A SINGH: Mr. Speaker. Sir. I will not add a word to what facts have been SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: Sir, I brought to my notice. I would not like to wanted to fpeak here especially for this indulge in the fabricated story that the hon. reason also tnat the hon. Minister of Home Member has given. Affairs is saying that he is in possession of the facts. I have a photograph of his identity ( Interruptions) card with rile. The hon. Minister is also saying that he is in possession of the facts MR. SPEAKER: Order, Order. and he is stating the facts which have been published in the newspapers as well. A ( Interruptions) Member of Parliament has every right fo give the complete details of an incident which PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : How occurs with him while he is alone and espe- can he say that it is fabricated? He cannot cIally if that involves stopping him while he is say that. on his way to the Parliamont House. I want to raise the Issue with your permission be- SI-IRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Mav- cause from the Government's side .... elikara ): He should withdraw that word.

( Interruptions) ( Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Do not digress. MR. SPEAKER: Sit down.

(interruptions) [ Translation]

SHAI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN : In You have made your point. Now net him this connection, the General Secretary of the make his subm ission . Janata Party has filed a report in the police station regarding the surveillance being SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN:" done. As regards the statement of the hon. Mmister that he has additional facts about [English] thIS incident, I want to say that those have already been published in the newspapers MR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. What- ( Interruptions) ever he has said will not form part of the record. MR. SPEAKER : You should restrict yourself to your own account of the incident. ( Interruptions)

(Interruptions) S. sUTA SINGH : Had he confined to only bare facts of the incident, I would not SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN : All have used that word. He has brought in so

•• Expunged as ordered by the Chair. 349 Personal Explanation PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) by Member 350

many things which have nothing to do with would make attempts on the pofiticalleaders . this incident. Therefore, to that extent, the etc. in the Capital .. ( Interruptions) ... story is fabricated. (Interruptions) Shri Arif Mohammad Khan, MP and Shri [ Translation] Suman, Vice President of All India Yuva Janata along with 10/12 party workers ac- MR. SPEAKER: Why are you making costed him, dragged him inside the party a noise? office despite his disclosing his identity and the purpose of his presence there and con- fined him there . ... (Interruptions) ... He was ( Interruptions) also assaulted by several persons present there resulting in injuries to him as well as [English] tearing off of his cloths. His identity card was also snatched which was returned only after MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. repeated requests by him. He was released later when the local police intervened. ( Interrllptions) A case has been registered under sec .. S. SUTA SINGH: Mr. Speaker, Sir, tions 342. 353,and 332I.P.C. Police is inves- according to the report of the special Branch tigating into the case. A case has been Delhi Policy, Sub-Inspector, Ranbir Singh, registered against Shri Arif Mohammad No.140S-D, Special Branch was posted as Khan, MP and others. spotter outside the compound of Janata Party Office, Jantar Mantar Road on 24th ( Interruptions) February, 1988. (Interruptions) Why don't you listen? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir, do you believe that? [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: How can I believe or MR. SPEAKER: First you listen to him. disbelieve anything?

[English] ( Interruptions)

S. BUTA SINGH You listen to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : 1f the it.( Interruptions) Home Minister can make such a statement, you can imagine what will happen down the You listen to it, you will come to realise ladder. (Interruptions) .. He was keeping watch ac- cording to the prevalent practice on the S. BUTA SINGH : Also there is a com- movements of suspeded terrorists on ac- plaint by Shri Yashwant Sinha, General count of the reports .. (Interruptions) ... Secretary of the Janata Party regarding tress-pass and unauthorised entry by the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Shri officer of the Special Branch accompanied Arif Mohammad Khan is a terrorist? Do you by others. It is also alleged that the officer compare him with a terrorist? What a shame accosted in an intimidating manner. This is ( Interruptions) being investigated. After the inv9stigations are over. if necessary a case will be regis- S.BUTA SINGH: That the terrorists tered. 351 Papers Laid FEBRUARY 25. 1988 Papers Laid 352

Let me share with this august House You can dispose of it be referring it to the that Delhi has been put under red alert Privileges Committee. because there has been special information with us that terrorists from Punjab are com- MR. SPEAKER: I have to see. ing to Delhi. This is not the only office that these forces are placed. These forces are PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Aa- placed at various premises to spot out the japur) : , have given a regular privilege No- terrorists. This has been broadly televised tice and Shri Arif Mohammad Khan also has and given to the Press and also made known given a regular privilege Notice. through the radio that Delhi has been put under alert and these people were posted MR. SPEAKER: I have to look onto the outside the office of the Janata Party and not matter and decide accordingly. inside the office of the Janata Party.

SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN : We want your ruling Sir. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Have you kept it pending? MR. SPEAKER: It is under my consid- eration. I cannot give a ruling. MR. SPEAKER: It is under my consid- eration. ( Interruptions) SHRt INDRAJIT GUPTA: Do you ex- pect us to believe this cock and bull story ?

12.33 hrs. MR. SPEAKER : I don't know, when have I asked you to ? Have I requested you PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE to accept anything ?

Annual report on Industrial and Commer- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE :Wetake cial Undertakings of Central Govern- itthat it is under your consideration (Interrup- ment (Public Enterprises Survey) for tions) 1986-87 (Vol. '-111)

[English] Annual Report of and Review on Indian In&tHule of Forest Management, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bhopal for 1986-87 MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AF- FAIRS (SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT) : Sir, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE on behatf of Shri J. Vengala Rao. I be to lay MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND FOR- on the Table a copy of the Annual Report ESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): I beg to lay on (Hindi and English versions) on the working the Table:- of Industrial and Commercial Undertakings of the Central Government (Public Enter- (1) (i) A copy of the Annual Report prises Survey ) for the year 1986-87 (Vo- (Hindi and English versions) of lumes -I to 111). [Placed in Library: 599 No. the Indian Institute of Forest L.T. 5499188] Management, Bhopal for the year 1986-87 along with Audited SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) Accounts. 353 Papers Laid PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) Papers Laid 354

(ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi (2) A copy each of the following and English versions) by the Notifications (Hindi and English Government on the working of versions) under sUb-section (4) the Indian institute of Forest of section 124 of the Major Port Management, Bhopal, for the Trusts Act, 1963:- year 1986-87. (i) G.S.R. 808 (E) published in (2) A statement (Hindi and English Gazette of India dated the 21 st versions ) showing reasons for September, 1987 approving delay in laying the papers men- the Tuticorin Port Trust Em- tioned at (i) above [Placed in ployees (Recruitment, Senior- Library See No. L.T. -5500/88] ity and Promotion) Second Amendment Regulations SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : You are 1987. passing over it, you are going on to some- thing else without telling us. (ii) G.S.R 858 (E) published in Gazette of India dated the MR. SPEAKER : I have told you 15th October, 1987 approving earlier.. ( Interruptions} ... the Visakhapatnam Port Employees' (Compassionate If you cannot listen to it, it is not my Fund) Amendment Regula- problem. I am considering. You wanted a tions,1987. statement, you had that. (iii) G.S.R 861 (E) published in Gazette of India dated the Notification under Proviso to Article 309 16th October, 1987 approving of the Constitution and under Major Port the Calcutta Port Trust Em· Trusts Act and Statements regarding ployees' (Leave) (First delay In laying papers under sub-section Amendment) Regulations, (2) of section 103 of the said Act 1987.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (iv) G.S.R. 940 (E) published in MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT Gazette of India dated the (SHRI RAJESH PILOT): I beg to lay on the 30th November, 1987 approv- Table- ing the New Mangalore Port Trust, Employees ( Grant of (1) A copy of the Ministry of Surface Advances for building of Transport (Transport Wing ) Houses) Second Amendment Electronic Data Processing As- Regulations. 1987. sistant Recruitment Rules. 19987 (Hindi and English ver- sions) published in Notification (v) G.S.A. 950' (E) published in No. G.S.R. 897 in Gazette of Gazette of India dated the 2nd India dated the 28th November, December, 1987 approving 1987 issued under proviso to the eachin Port Employees Article 309 of the Constitution. (Temporary Service) Second [Placed in library See No. L T - Amendment Regulations, 5501/87 ] 1987. 355 PapetS LaId FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Papers laid 356 (vi) G.S.R. 86 (E) published In year 1986-87 along with Au- Gazette of India dated the 9th dited Accounts and the com- December, 1987 approving ments of Comptroller and the Cochln Port Employees Auditor General thereon. (Allotment of Residence) Sec- [Placed in Library S99 No. L1 ond Amendment Regulations, 5503/88] 1987. (b) (I) Review by the Government (vii) G.S.R 988 (E) published in on the working of the Dredging Gazette of India dated the Corporation of India Limited, 16th December, 1987 approv- New Delhi, for the year 1986- ing the Cochin Port Employ- 87. ees (ClassHication. Control and Appeal) Amendment (ii) Annual Report of the Dredging Regulations, 1987. Corporation of India Limited, New Delhi, for the year 1986- (viii) G.S.R. 993 (E) published in 87 along with Audited Ac- Gazette of India dated the counts and the com ments of 17th December, 1987 approv- the Comptroller and Auditor ing the Bombay Port Trust General thereon. Employees (Conduct) Amendment Regulations, (4) A statement (Hindi and English 1987. versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers men- (ix) G.S.A. 94 (E) published in tioned at (b) of item (3) above. Gazette of India dated the [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 17th December 1987, approv- 5504/88] ing the Bombay Port Trust Employees (Conduct) (5) (i) A copy of the Annual Report Amendment Regulations, (Hindi and English versions) of 1987. [Placed in Library 598 Visakhapatnam Dock Labour No. LT-5502/88] Board forthe y&ar 1986-87 along with Audited Accounts. (3) A copy each of the following papers (Hindi and English ver- (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi sions) under sub-section (i) of and English versions) by section 619A of the Companies the Government on the Act, 1956:- working of the Visakhapat- nam Dock Labor Board for (a) (i) Review by the Government the year 1986-87. on the working of the Indian Road Construction Corpora- (6) A statemant (Hindi and English tion Limited, New Delhi, for the versions) showing reasons for year 1986·87. delay in laying the papers men- tioned at (5) above. [Placed in (ii) Annual Report of the Indian Library. See No. l T -5505/88] Road Construction CorP9ra- tion Limited. New Delhi, for the (7) (i) A copy of the Annual Admini.. 357 Papers laid PHAlGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) PaptJrS Laid 358 stration Report (Hindi and Eng- Library &B9 No. l T 5508/88] lish versions) of the Madras Port Trust for the year 1986 .. 87. ~b) (i) Annual Accounts of the Mormugao Port Trust for the (Ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi year 1986-87 together with and English versions) by the Audit Report thereon. Government on the working of the Madras Port Trust for the (ii) Review by the Government on year 1986-87. the Audited Accounts of the Mormugao Port Trust for the (8) A statement (Hindi and English year 1986-87.[Placed in versions) showing reasons for Library. 599 No. LT 5509/881 delay in laying the papers men- tioned at (7) above. [Placed in (c) (i) Annual Accounts of the Library. 5S8 No.L T.5506/88] eachin Port Trust for the year 1986-87 together with Audit (9) (i) A copy of the Annual Admini- Report thereon. stration Report (Hindi and Eng- lish versions) of the Tuticorin (ii) Review by the Government on Port Trust for the year 1986-87. the Audited Accounts of the Cochln Port Trust for the year (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi 1986-87. [Placed in Library and English versions) by the See No. LT. 5510/88]. Government on the working of the Tuticorin Port Trust for the (d) (i) Annual Accounts of the year 1986-87. New Mangalore Port Trust to' the year 1986-87 togeth(~t (10) A statement (Hindi and English with Auditor Report thereon versions) showing reasons for

delay in laying the papers men- (ii) RAview by the Government I)' tioned at (9) above. [Placed in the Audited Accounts of 1h Library. See No.LT.S507/88] New Mangalore Port Trust f

the year 1986-87 [Placed I r I (11) A copy 3ach of the following Library. See No. LT-5S11/8H] papers (. ~indi and English ver- sions), under sub-section (2) of (e) (i) Annual Accounts of th0 section 1 03 of the Major Port Tuticorin Port Trust for tho Trusts Act, 1963:- year 1986 .. 87 together With Audit Report thereon. (a) (i) Annual Accounts of the Nhava Shava Port Trust for (li) Review by the Government on the year 1-986-87 together the Audited Accoun1s of the with Audit Report thereon. Tuticorin Port Trust for the year 1986·87. [Placed in (ii) Review by the Government on Library. See No. LT-5512/8B] the Audited Accounts of the Nhava Sheva Port Trust for (f) (i) Annual Accoun1s of the the year 1986-87.[Placed In Madras Por1 Trust forthe year 359 Papsrs Laid FEBRUARY 25. 1988 PlfPtlrs Laid 360

1986·87 together with Audit 16th October, 1985 to 31 st Report thereon. March,1987.

(it) Review by the Government on (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi the Audited Ac:counts of the and English versions) by the Madras Port Trust for the year Government on the working of 1986-87. [Placed in Library. the Pondicherry University, See No. LT -5513/88] Pondicherry, for the perIod from 16th October, 1985 to (12) Six statements (Hindi and Eng- 31st March, 1987. [Placed in lish versions) showing reasons Library. See No. LT-5515/88] for delay in laying the papers mentioned at (11) above. Annual Report and Annual Accounts of [Placed in Library. S88 No. LT" and Review on Indian Council of Medical 5508 to 5513188] Research, New Deihl, for 1986-87 and a statement regarding delay In laying Annual Report and Review on Banaras these papers Hindu University for 1985-86 and Annual Report of and Review on Pondlcherry THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE University, Pondlcherry from 16.10.85 to MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY 31.3.87 WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): I beg to lay on the Table- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTS OF EDUCATION AND (1) (I) A copy of the Annual Report CULTURE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN (Hindi and English versions) of RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI L.P. the Indian Council of Medical SHAHI): I beg to lay on the Table-- Research, New Delhi for the year 1986-87. (1) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English versions) of (ii) A copy of the Annual Accounts the Banaras Hindu University for (Hindi and English versions) the year 1985-86. of the Indian Council of Medi- cal Research. New Delhi, for (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi the year 1986-87 together and English versions) by the with Audit Report thereon. Government on the working of the Banaras Hindu University for the year 1985-86. (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and English verSions) by the (2) A statement (Hindi and English Government on the working of versions) showing reasons for the Indian Council of Medical delay in laying the papers men- Research, New Delhi, for the tioned at (1) above. [Placed in year 1986-97. library. See No. LT-5514188] (2) A statement (Hindi and English (3) (i) A copy of the Annual Report versions) showing reasons for (Hindl and English versions) of delay in laying the papers men ... the Pondlcherry University, tioned at (1) above. [Placed in Pondicherry, for the period trom Library. See No. LT -5516188] 361 Papsrs Laid PHAlGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) P.U. CommltteeRepolt 382 [ Translation] [Placed in Library. SHNo. LT· 5518/88J Notification under Ca Icutt. Metro RaH· way (Operation and Maintenance) Tam- porary Provision Act and Review on and 12.34 hrs. Annual Report of Indian Railway Con- struction Company Ltd., New Deihl, for COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC UNDERTAK- 1986-87 etc. INGS

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Thirty-sixth Report MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MA- [English] HABIR PRASAD): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table of the SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHAMAN House with your permission:- (Alleppey): Sir, I beg to present the Thirty.. sixth Report (Hindi and English versions) of (1) A copy of the Metro Railway the Committee on Public Undertakings on (Carriage of 8aggage) Rules, Action taken by Government on the recom- 1988 (Hindi and English ver- mendations contained in their Twenty-sev- sions) published in Notification enth Report on Nomination of Directors by No. S.D. 127 (E) in Gazette of Financial Institutions. India dated the 25th January, 1988 under sub-section (3) of section 22 of the Calcutta Metro [English] Railway (Operation and Mainte- nance ) Temporary Provisions MR. SPEAKER: Now the House will Act, 1985. [Placed in library. take up matters under Rule 377. Mr. Som .. See No. LT-5517/88] nath Rath ...... ( Interruptions) (2) A copy each of the following papers (Hindi and English ver- MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed Mr. sions) under sub-section (1) of Somnath Rafh. Nobody except Mr. Rath will section 619 A of the Companies go on record. I have not allowed any other Act, 1956:- member. (Interruptions) .* (i) Review by the Government on the working of the Indian Rail- way Construction Company 12.35 hrs. Limited, New Delhi, for the year 1986·87. MATTERS UNDER RULE 3n

(ii) Annual Report of the Indian [English] Railway Construdion Com- pany Limited, New Delhi, for (I) Demand for • Low Power T.V. the year 1986-87 alongwith T.....mltt.r In 8hanJ.na"ar Audited Accounts and the (Ort_) comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon . SHRI SOMNATH AATH (Aska): The

•• Not recorded. 363 Papers Laid FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Matters Under Rule 377 364 .. ISh. Somnath Rath] tions are prevailing in Rajasthan State for the Government has decided to set up a low last four years and in some parts of the State power (100-W) TV Transmitter under Sev- even for the last five years. enth Plan at Bhanjanagar, district Ganjam, Orissa Bhanjanagar is a primier town in Drinking water problem is the prime Ganjam District and it has been a honey- concern of the paople of the State. Drinking comb of freedom struggle of Chumsur which water supply schemes provide water for has the pride of making striking contribution cattle population also. These schemes are to the saga of the emancipation struggle of dependant for their effective operation on the country. It is abode of the poet Emperor the availability of electricity supply in this of Oriya literature, kabi Samrat Upendra StatG. Bhanja. It has rich cultural legacy and has a host of colleges of various disciplines. Farmers are facing a great difficulty Bhanjanagar happens to be the nerve centre because of utter failure of monsoon in July to of the rural sector of Ghumsur Sub-division October, 1987. Farmers have grown Rabi as well nearby Sub-divisions of Chaterpur crops in small areas of their holdings and and Balligude sub-division of Phulbani dis- irrigate the crops by obtaining water from trict. The TV transmitter at Bhanjanagar will dugwells and TlJbe-welis which are cater to the needs of rural public also inhab- operated with supply of electricity. Because ited by adivasis and Harijans. Besides Aska of inadequate availability of electricity in the parliamentary constituency it will also serve State the farmers have suffered a lot by now. parts of three other parliamentary constitu- It is time for watering the Rabi crops, but encies-Phulbani, Chaterpur and Bhubanes- supply of electricity to agriculture sector is war. The then Union Minister of State for not adequate. lnformation and Broadcasting shri Ajit Panja during his visit to Orissa not only assured but I, therefore urge upon the Government also directed the Director at Bhubaneswarto of India to supply more electricity from the take a house on rent for the time-being and Central Power Projects to the State of Ra- start the work. Many Central and State jasthan. Government buildings besides private build- ings are available. The college authorities (III) Demand for reviewing the new are also offering their buildings, It is re- textile policy In order to save closure of quested that installation and commissioning textile mills of the transmitter at Bhanjanagar. Orissa should be expedited. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay North Central): There are 984 textile mills in the 12.38 hr•. country including 702 spinning and 282 composite ones. From 1970 onwards. the [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair) health of this industry is declining gradually and now it is faced with unprecedented cri- (II) Demand for supply of more sis. Since the declaration of the new textile electricity to Rajasthan for policy, 52 more units are closed and and agriculture and drinking water 72,000 more workers lost their Jobs. At pres- supply schame. ent, 127 mills are closed and 1,66,000 textile workers are jobless. In Bombay. five mills SHAI RAM SINGH YADAV (Alwar): namely Bradbry, Mukesh. Shreniwas, New The State of Rajasthan is in grip of acute Great and Modern are closed rendering famine this year. Famine and drought condi- about 12,000 workers unemployed. The \r~ 365 MaltefS Under PHAlGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKAI :t \ ~.I ~ liule 377 366 three units of Swan Mills are on the verge of Government to dir~ the State Government closure. Further, there are about a dozen to supply wheat to Barmar,Jaisalmer.Jodh- sick mills in Bombay which may close down pur, Jalore, and Churu districts of Ra;asthan any moment. ff urgent remedial steps are not at Rs. 1.55 per kg. through the public distri .. taken, it will be too late to do anything to save bution system for the period February 1988 this industry. I appeal to the Government to to 30th September 1988 as is being done in review textile policy and to take steps to the case of Adivasi areas. nationalise the whole industry of textile mills. It is no use allowing non-viable sick mills to (vi) Demand for Compensation to close down and to take over only viable sick those who lost their eye-eight mills and to leave the affluent ones to make In the aya operation Camp at huge profits. Ch Intaman I In Kolar dlatrlct of Karnataka [ Translation] [English] (Iv) Demand for suppty of wheat at subsidised rates to drought SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU (Tumkur): affected people of Rajasthan Sixty people are reported to have lost their sight due to eye operation conducted by the SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Mr. mobile ophthalmic unit of the Minto Hospital Deputy Speaker, Sir, Rajasthan has been at Chintamani in Kolar district (Karnataka) affected by severe drought for the fourth recently. year in succession. The worst affected areas in the State are desert areas. The Central Sir, 116 people underwent operation at Government has declared Barmer. Jais- that camp. These people had come for eye almer, Jodhpur, Jalore and Churu district as operation for improving their eyesight but worst-hit districts in the country. They have after t"9 eye operation, they lost the sight. been put under a special category and a Earlier also, a number of patients fost their decision has been taken to provide them eyes after these mobile hospitals conducted special relief assistance, besides fodder and eye operation in some other States. This is a employment. matter of great concern to the nation as the people who are going for improvement of the 75% to 100% of Kharif crop has been eyesight after the operation lose the sight damaged in the said districts. Besides, in completely. There seems to be something most parts of these districts, no Rabi crop wrong somewhere either in the medicines or can be raised. There has been unprece- the operations are not being done by ex- dented rise in the prices of wheat and other perts. In view of this situation either Govern- coarse gains like Jawar and bajra. Through ment should ban mobile operations con- the public distribution system, 5 to 7 kgs. of ducted by the camps or before eye wheat per he?d per month is being supplied operations take place, all the medicines to the rural poor. should be checked and the doctors who operate should be asked to be more careful. The condition of these areas ;s worse The Union Health Minister should take than that of Adivasi areas where wheat is immediate action and compensation should being sold at the rate of As. 1.55 per kg . be given to all those victims. . through the public distribution system. (vi) Demand for Measur.. for Therefore, I would urge the Central improving the lot of the 367 Matters Under FEBRUARY 25, 1988 Ru1B377 368 Andhr. Pradesh Cotton grow- DlnaJpur dl8trlct of, West • r. Bengal which has been d • elared 'No Industry' district PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I wish to draw the SHRI ANAND PATHAK (Oa~e$ling): attention of the Government of India to the Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. inspite of having misearabie plight of lakhs of cotton growers declared Islampur, Chopra and other sub~ of Guntur and Prakasam districts of Andhra divisions of the district of West Dinajpur in Pradesh. Farmers of these two districts have West Bengal as Ino industry diS1rid', by the lost all their crops in the last 3 to 4 years Government, no1 a single small medium or because of white fly, boll weevil, etc. They large scale industry has yet been set up in have become so poor and bankrupt that they these areas, as a consequence of which have started selling their women's orna- these areas still remain most backward and ments. They are also not able to repay the the people inhabiting there are very poor. loans to Cooperative societies and Sched· uled banks. Their plight has caused a terrible I, therefore, urge upon the Union Gov- social and moral depression in the country- ernment to consider the demands of the side, and about 15 persons have commi11ed people of these areas and take appropriate suicide. Never before, the farmers have action. taken such drastic steps. It is the duty of the Central Government to help these farmers [ Translation] so that they do not take such desperate steps. I, therefore, suggest: (vIII) Demand for remunera- tive price to formers for their (i) that all proceedings for the product recovery of loans be stopped; SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH (ii) price of the cotton may be (Jahanabad): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, India raised at least by 20 per cent; is a country of villages, farmers and workers. 70 per cent of its people are dependent on (iii) interest free loans may be agriculture but unfortunatefy even today the provided for the current crop; farmer is caught in a vicious circle. He feels that he has a dark future ahead. The prices (iv) supply of unadulterated of agricultural inputs like fertilisers, seeds, tested seeds, fertilisers and power, water, diesel and insecticides have pesticides at subsidized rates registered a sharp increase. The price of an may be ensured; industrial good is fixed after taking into con- sideration its cost of production and margin (v) financial assistance to the of profit. ,,(herefore, there is no question of families whose heads of families any loss in it, whereas, in agriculture, not have committed suicide, may be even the cost of production is taken into provided; and consideration. The support price is not enough even to meet the cost of labour. "". (vi) crop insurance may be en- These are some of the reason why the plight sured. of farmers in the country is going from bad to worse. Besides, due to imposition of taxes (vII) Demand for ••ttlng up Indus.. and other restrictions, the number of farmers tries In certain places In West in the country ;s fast declining and the num- 369 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pro Address 370 bar of labourers is increasing leading to SHRI AMAL DATTA: Mr. Deputy weakening of country's economy I. there- Speaker Sir, I rise to oppose the Motion of fore, demand that the prices of agricultural Thanks to the Presicfant for his Address to inputs and agricultural produce should be the joint session of the two Houses. The fixed in such a manner that the farmers are Address of the President has become an able to get remunerative price as a result annual Parliamentary ritual and has become thereof. as much stereotyped as i{has become irrele- vant to the life of the nation. It has become devoid of any understanding of the real po- litical issues before the nation and has there- 12.49 hrs. fore, become utterfy superficia~ Sir, the President's speech catalogues a series of MOTION OF THANKS ON THE make-belief achievements and these are ofl PRESIDENTS ADDRESS Contd. no importance to the nation even if they were true. This shows unfortunately that the [English] people who are incharge of the destiny of the nation have no real connection with the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House people any more. They do not know what are will now take up further consideration of the the issues before the nation',which have to be Motion of Thanks on President's Address highlighted on the annual historic occasion moved by Shri B.R. Bhagat on the 24th like this. They have no sense of priorities of February, 1988. the issues and problems before the nation and accordingly they have catalogued in the SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har- speech only some wishful thinking, some bour): HI start now, can Icontinue and finish? lofty intentions, but no achievements ofjany nation building activity which may have been MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You speak undertaken during the last one year. In fact, upto 1 O'clock. You can continue after- the possibility is that no such activity has, in wards. fact, been undertaken or no achievements are there for the Central Government to read SHRI AMAL DATTA: Then there will be out during such a speech. lunch. There/ have been a lot of assertions. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You want to some of them even if bonafide, are incorrect finish at 1.05 PM? and of no importance to he people. They have not said what is'being done for those SHRI AMAL DAIT A: I think I have about problems which concern the nation primarily 28 minutes or so. today, the problem of secularism, national integration anq' unity, the problem of social- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If you want to ism and the problem of democracy. speak after lunch break, you can speak after the next person. Taking the problem of national integra- tion and unity first, I apprehend that the SHRI AMAL DATTA: Then I will be people who are incharge of the nation'. much lata. destiny today have no idea as to where to go and how to proceed/to promote a sense of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: After lunch Indian coneciouaness. They do not ask the break you can continue. question to what extant we have progressed 371 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Addrvss 372 [She Amal Datta] development progresses people ara be- to form and promote an Indian identity. Do coming more conscious of the injustice the people think of themselves as Indians or which they have suffered and are still suffer- do people think of themselves as Telugu or ing. This is the real reason behind the divi- Hindi-speaking1or some regional, linguistic sive and fissiperous tendencies; the objec- I or ethnic group? This has some pathetic tive reason/ which has to be tackled. But consequences which are becoming more nothing has been done to redress the re- and more relevant as days pass. We see gional, caste, religious and other imbal- around us divisive and fissiparous tenden- ances which have become rooted in Indian cies. There are lofty intentions which have society over the centuries. been recorded in the President's Address like we will/struggle and crush fundamental- Then, Sir, as education proceeds ism etc. and I quote: people become more vocal. Not only they become more conscious offihe lack of social 'We have unflinching determination to justice but they become more vocal, more root out communalism, fundamental- assertive and more demanding. This is the ism and other fissiparous tendencies." case where the division comes within the people from inside. No doubt there are out- Very good intentions, but what have you side forces which are trying to take advan- done about it? That is the question. If they tage of that but it isfthe duty of the Govern- have done anything about it, then they ment to seQ that the process of growth and shouldlhave stated. The fact that nothing has development, the process of education and \ been stated leaves one to believe that not the spread of cuhure, education and literacy only nothing has been done, but the way itself does not give rise to the fissiparous and things have to be achieved is not even divisive tendencies. Nothing has been done. known or considered by the people who are It should have been1 a task which should incharge of the Government. have been given to a permanent body. The National Integration Council is the constitu- The fact(if that the Constitution gave us tionally acknowledged and prescribed insti- I a National Integration Council. This National tution for that purpose. But, Sir, unfortu- Integration Council has been regarded as a nately, as I said, this has been regarded by sort of fire fighting it lstrument and not one of the Government as an instrument, to be permanence which will promote the sense of invoked intol1l19 as and when the Govern- unity amongst the people and promote a ment requires the co-operation from other sense of Indianness rand identity of the na- parties for some emergent problems. Imme- tion as a whole. As a result, four times this diately when the problems are solved, or Naticnallntegration Council has been called even when they are not solved, as in the only to be sent into oblivision within a short Punjab issue, ~ is again sent into oblivion. time and even now in 1986, the Council This is the problem but\ there is no under- which has been called and sub-Committees standing of the proble",. This is my main have bee,," formed and Advisory Commit- rontention. There is no understanding as to tees have been formed to go into this, but how to deal with such a problem. they have become totally inadequate to tackle the task which is before them, be- Then, Sir, comes the question of social- cauge the task is growing more and more ism. Where are we going? We are supposed difficult. There are two reasons why it is that to have an economy based on lp1anned fissiparous and th~ divisive forces are com- development. Now, where is the planning? It ing to the front. One is, as the process of is totally politically controHed. And so much 373 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Address 374 so the Planning Commission has coma into 13.00 hr•. such disrepute and such disgrace that re- cently the Prime Minister remarked about The Lok 5abha then adjoumtHll for Lunch the Members of the Planing Commission till FourtHn of the Clock and called them la bunch~f jokers'. I do not agree with the Prime Minister. I am not saying that the Prime Minister was right or wrong in saying that but the very fact that 14.05 hr•. such a insinuation has been made by a person who heads the same institution, The Lok Sabha rBBSsemblsd, after namely the Planning Commission~.... Lunch at five '''inutes past Fourteen of the Clock

\ \ PROF. ~DHU DANDAVAT~ (Ra- [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the japur): He said ~hat becau.e he is heading Chair) the Planning Commission. \ MOTION OF THANKS ON THE PRESIDENT'S ADDRESS Contd. SHa~AMAl DAnA: -..a, he heads the Planning Commission and called the mem- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now Mr. bers of the Planning Commission as "a Amal Datta may continue. bunch of jokers". As a nation, what kind of confidence are we to have on such a plan- ,. -)' SHHI AMAl:~ Stt, I was on the ning process? Sir, we have seen the results I subject of SOCIalism. I had just started on of thef planning process. The results show that, and I have made some comments very uneven development, because it has about the remarks made about the Planning been politically controlled. It has never been Commission, and in what esteem the Plan- informed of the necessity of the national ning CommiSSion may now be held by tha integration and harmonisation to bring about nation. But after all, ~ is a part and parcel of the national reconciliation. If we start from the bureaucracy. It has no constitutional the premise that we have always been[ a authority, it is established by a resolution of nation and there is no need to promote unity the Executive; and, therefore, it is influenced conscientiously then we are going wrong. It by the political decisions of the Executive. It is a wrong direction to which we have been does not, therefore, reflect the wishes of the progressing so far. There is no indication in people throug~Parliament, as expressed in the President's speech that the direction will Parliament; and we have no authority, ex- now be changed; thatlwa shall take positive cept to somettmes discuss what the Plan steps to promote harmony within the nation; documents or the appraisal reports say. that we shall do away with the conflicts and That is all. So, the planning process which ;s schism which come because of the inequal- bureaucratic, arbitrary and subject to politi- ityof development in various fields like politi- cal dictates of the Executive, has neve~en cal, economic and cultural. tht::tre is no such a proper instrument for planning, not to indication at all and/this is very tragic. speak of socialist planning. But even then, ! we had something; and now even that is MR. DEPUTY SPEA~R: Mr. Datta gone. But no mention is made in the you may continue after lunch.\We shall now President's Address. as to what is going to adjourn for Lun~h to reasse~'8 at 14.00 replace this particular machinery which iSi hrs. ' now being seen to be obsolete. 975 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 376 iSh. Arnal Datta] There is no monitoring whatsoever of The question which one should ask, if this. In fad, the grim truth has come out from one is really interested in establishing social- surveys made by bodies other than those ism, is whether the disparity between the rich appointed by the Executive. The surveys and the poor has narrowed; and what has say that most Oflthe money dished out to the been the Government's role in it, if it has people or supposedly given to the people as been harrowed. There is no mention of this loan by the Nationalised Banks ana sub- I ' unfortunately, in the President's speech. sidised by the States and Central Govern- ment is the money which has gone to the There are references to some unrelated middle men, touts and has not really bene- programmes like the poverty alleviation fited the poor 1people. A saying goes, the programmes. Much pride is taken by the same cow has been sold three times and EX8cutiv9 and, accordingly in the shown t" have benefited three persons.-by Presindent's Address it is reflected, that the only one cow. In India, this is the kind of poverty alleviation programme~ like IRDP, programme which the government adopts. NREP etc. had reached so many millions of Then they say that since they have adopted people. But really what has been the result of the programme}Jt is a success and there- that? That nobody has been able to assess, fore, they have li~ed so many people above unfortunately. the poverty line. So, the planning and achievements are made synonymous. Once you plan for something, you say that you At one time, the Prime Minister in his have taken up programme and then after great enthusiasm started a current appraisal sometime you say that you have achieved of these poverty' alleviation programmes, something. This is the way in which the and started sending us very colourful bro- socialism, the problem of poverty not any chures. That lasted for about 4 or 5 months, programme of socialism, as such is sought and then that effort has fizzled out for obvi- to be tackled. I am not going into what the ous reasons, because no progress was concept of socia!ism, but only into our being made. It would have been better if one government's concept of socialism. The gave enough details, and not,he aggregate other plans is to have public sector which figures like 16 million people had been cov- Will, according to the government's own ered by IRDP- that is the claim about the lasl language, assume the commanding height Five Year Plan period and now the claim is of the economy. What has happened to that that in the next two years, another 13 million public sector? Today, what is the thinking of people have been covered-these are the the government regarding that public sec- kindPf claims. Nobody, not even the Mem- tor? Is it their thinking that the public sedor bers of Parliament, no political party can go will grow from strength to strength? No. The counting heads to find out whether these President's Address itself says that it has people actually have got any benefit, and reached commanding haight6 Now, all the what is the nature of the benefit: is it of a industries are to come down from those lasting nature. or is it ov'a transitory nature; heights; and that process has already have they got something which they have started. sold and for the time being been able to eat, or have they got an asset from which they will There have been some losses in public be getting i~come year by year? In other- sector, there have been Ioss8s; there has been inefficiency; there has been corruption words, have they been really t permanently lifted above/the poverty line, which is the because of the neglect of the govemment. object of that programme, or not? We have stated so many times in Partiament 3n Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Add,.., 378 and outside Parliament also people have Regarding industrial sickn.. , the gov .. shouted that so many/of them are headless. Qrnment has expressed not only its Inability Thera is no Chairman, no MD, no proper and but also lack of political win to tackle the competent person to manage many of the problem of industrial sickness. This is the public sector undertakings even today. problem which has arisan not even today but 17·18years ago. We keptpur eyes closed as ~: MADHU DANDAVATE!.That 15 long as we could. But by 1972 the govem.. j AOt ...&dIUss, that ~t8pI8l •. ment even could not keep its eyes closed. They had to bring into existence an institu- SHRt-~#AAt. OAnA: This being the tion called the Industrial Rehabilitation Cor- situation and then having been neglected for poration of India which has now been con- a 10119 time, they have inevitably gone into rut verted into Industrial Rehabilitation Board ofl and /have been making losses. Even where India. This is symptomatic of the the Parliamentary Committee has gone into Government's attitude that now they have the malaise of a particular public sector got a Board. under an Act passed by this undertaking and has made recommenda- Parliament and yet that Board is still not tions, they have never been carried out by really functioning. h is there in name only the government. One example which romes because it is not fundioning. Nor is IRSI, to my mind' is this because this i~very much fundioning. Nor any institutions giving loans in the air. In the case of Scooters In~ia Ltd., or any institutions for helping the sick indus- which is apparentl~ was sought to be handed tries to overcome this sickness are function- over to a private industrialist as some kind of ing. The Government has no policy in ,that a reward, I would say. to that particular regard and as a result. year after year. more house, because of its friendship with the and more industries are becoming sick. leadersbt the government and Rs. 40 cmres worth oi assets are being handed over, al- though the real value of the assets is much Several yearsJago we started to quote more. the written down value of the assets is figures, of course the Govemment's own Rs. 40 erores, but this is being handed over figures which we used to trot out in P arlia- for mere As. 5 Erores; the rest is to oome ment, about sick industries. It w~ 88,000, from the public sedor and financial institu- 90,000, 95,000 and so on. Now it is galloping tions. So, this is the governm~nt's pathetic and it has reached a figure of ~ 50,000. How belief; belief or conviction I do not know. But many millions of people have thereby been they appeared to have pinned down their turned out by employment, there are no belief of faith on privati sation of sickness or statistics for that because the Government is even not / so sick or even healthy public n'-"tooneemad. Only information that wacan sector undertakings. H the opposition does get from the Government so far as the sick not resist and the government is left to carry indu~tries are conCerned, in this House/iS to out its own decision and then it win hal"d what extent money has been locked up. The them over to the privata sector. That is the Government is concerned only with how entire thinking of the government. Onepf the much money of the banks or the financial main planks of socialism on which the phi- institutions of the Government has been losophy of the earlier govamm8flt stood is locked up in these sick and ctosed indus.. now being jettisoned. But no mention of that tries. That is their only ooncam. They are/ is there; no programme of what is going to least concerned with how many peapIe have happen to, the public sector; nothing has lost their bread and butter because of the been mentioned about it in)be President's ' sickness and closure of Jndustries. This is Address. the kind of socialist Government we have. 379 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25. 1988 on Pro Address 380 [Sh. Amal Datta) What the change in the electoral proc- Now. let us come to the basic question ass should have been? I am not sayingphat of democracy. What has been happening to the President should have oome down in this/polity? Has it been able to, through a favour of a change in the electoral process political proce,s. reflect the will of the people and so on. But is should have got his atten- in its governance? In other words, are the tion in the speech. What is happening to that Pan!ament and State Legislatures which long debata and discussion we have had? jointly govern the whole country, so consti- What is happening to\ the Parliamentary tuted as to faithfully reflect the will of the procedures? Is the Parliamentary procedure people~hrough the electoral process. Ir. this today adequate to deal with the variegated House alone, we know that there is a Gov- problems which come before it? ernment which does not have the majority of the votes. But they have about 400 odd In this Parliament we have taken as our membars. model the British parliament, which is called the Mother of Parliaments, a model which ~-eA1FOOtJ IN OROWDIIAPt\' was all right or\nay be not even so all right in

(~Atou~OII • 1947,1949 or 1950. But we have persisted with that model. We are very good in doing SHRI AMAL DAnA: No, no. That is the that. Like our Ambassador car, a model IPC provision. I think they have 409 mem- which we picked up in 1956 we are still bers now. Previously it was mors. The point continuing it in 1988\ We do not want to is, we have been talking about, discussing change. We do not want to follow the needs about debating about the electoral reforms of the times. How the felt needs of the people of such kind that the will of the people will be are to be reflected; how they are to be dealt properly reflected in the legislatures not only with by Parliament is no concern-never have in Parliament but also in the State legisla- been-apparently of those who run the Gov- tures, but that has not come. The most ernment in this country. This is most objec- recent example is the election in Tripura tionable. Sir, the West-minister model itself where in spite of haVing a majority the Left has changed. Like Ambassador car, we stick Front has lost, of course by other means. We to the old model, which is no longer will come to that later. In Tripura it is a narrow adequate to deal with the problem . Today, in victory for the Congress. In this House it is a the British Parliament, Select Committees, very large victory so far as head counting of go into the policy making of the Depart- the members is concerned in spite of having ments, its implementation and are able to a minority of the votes. hold the bureaucracy to account. We have no such method. In this country, the Parlia- ment discusses the major policies of the PROF. MADHU DANOAVATE:Outside Government and sometimes e\fen that is of the head. denied. Even when wE( discuss the major policies, how th t policies are implemented SHRI AMAl DAnA: Nobody looks into is the most important thing. What is the the inside of anybody's head. mechanism deVised and what kind of guide- lines were issued to those who work on the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Nobody can ground are most important, which we can- see, that is the problem. never scrutinise and modify or alter ~coord­ ing to the fett needs of the people. Sir, we can SHRI AMAl DAnA: Now there are never sa~' 1he Executive has gone wrong methods. here, there. or somewhere excepting in the 381 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Add,.,. 382 case of one or two Parliamentary Commit- the change, you deceive the people. tees, which have very little time to deal with that. A major modification in~he parliamen- Similarly, with regard to exports. they tary system is needed. But unfortunately, it have given the figures in Indian rupees. If the has not received and is still not receiving the figures are given in dollars, then it will be attention of the leaders of the Government. seen that there is no increase in our export We do not have a Government or a Parlia- earnings. Because the value/of rupee has ment, which is responsive and is able to fallen and the Government has allowed it to reflect the aspirations and the\felt needs of fall, it is now 24 per cent-wonderful achieve- the people. ment.

Sir, the other institution of a democratic Sir, the other thing I should mention system is judiciary. Now what has happened before I conclude is Centre-State relations. to the judiciary? Today somebody goes to No thoughts have been given in spite of the court, he will not be able to get justice for ten tact that/there is a Commission's report. years, twelve years and sometimes he has Actually we will discuss it. But unfortunately te/leave the whole thing and go to the other.., tne whole concept of a Commission is a world, and his son or his heirs will have to misconception. The Commission can diag~ take it up. There is no question of getting nose the ills as S41rkaria Commission has justice any more from the judiciary. This is done. It has practically recognised all the something which should have attracted the complaints which have been made by thel attention of th1people, who are in charge of States. But it has not been able to give the Government, because the Executive solution because the solution to these prob- and the legislature together formulate how lems can come from statesmen, from politi- the judiciary will function, and when once the cians who can rise-1o the neight of states- institutional framework is there,then the men, and not from the judiciary, certainly not judiciary is independent. The institutional from the bureaucracy. This is the ultimate framework has to come from here and the difficultytwifh such commissions. They can- fundamental(thinking on this question has not re-structure the whole polity. the whole also to be htare. But there is no such Think- society, the whole democratic or institutional ing. framework in such a way as to see that the States are able to fuffil the aspirations of the On the economic Issues Sir, some fig- people and sufficient powers. administra· ures have been charted out. The President live, political and finanCial, are flade avail- says, we have done extremely well on the able to them. It is not possible for commis- industrial front because we have a grow1h sions like Sarkaria Commission to do justice rate 0; more than eight per cent or some· to the aspirations of the people by devising thing. He did not mention that this gr')wth and prescribi,lg the proper institutional rate is the industrial index has been framework. What has happened is concen· achieved by completely changing the basis tration of power in the hands of the Central of the index itself, by taking out the old Government ove~the years. This has been commodities and bringing in the new grow· happening, sapping the very vitals of our ing commodities. Thisl should have been'~' originalty mOre democratic Constitution explained arid then if the comparative charts which 'has become highly undemocratic in are given for the old and new tables, then it the process, highly unitary and the Central witl be all right. I am not saying, you do not Government has used the powers which the change it. But, when yOU change it, you Con$titution has given and increased these explain the change. When you dq'not explain pJOwers from tifTIefto time in a most arbitrary 383 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 384 [Sh. Amal Datta) the borders. H the Central Government mannar. Thereby, I think, the powers under wanted to do it earlier, we/~u'd have no Article 356 of the Constitution namely, impo- objection. But sending Army two days before sition of Governor's rule in the State, have the elections is the most unde mocratic act of been used more than 75 times in 37 years. the Government. This has been resorted to And in that context what is now happening? only to be able to come to power even in a It is happening in my State, West Bengal small State like Tripura to redress the losses because the Congress (I) President of the which they have suffered during thellast State Congress goes on threatening that he whole year of election reverses. Hthat I"~ the will have the President's rule imposed and policy and that is the motive and that is the have the democratically elected State Gov- type of conduct of this Government, then emment having a huge majority, removed. where is the hope for this country in any of Unfortunately, this is very tragic that the these matters of natural concern. Whether it Head of the Government, the Prime Minister is national integrity or socialism or ~emoc­ himself has said in this Parliament and alw racy. We find that we are going down the hill outside he has reiterated it outside that if his all the way. Home Ministry thinks that any Government is anti-national, meaning thereby any oppo- In these circumstances I will ask the sition State Government is anti-national, House to reject the Motion of Thanks to the then irrespective of the majority it has got, he President. will remove that Government. This is what the Prime Minister has said. Nothing can be SHRIJAGANNATH RAO (8erhampur): more undemocratic; nothing can bring forth Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the manifestations to authoritarian undemo· Motion of Thanks. It is customary for the cratictrendwhich is inthisGovernment. This President to address both the Houses of is in the same line as the hammer in which Parliament jointly at the commencement of the ruling party headed by the same Prime the first session in every calendar year. This Minister grabbed power in a small State like is a Constitutional requirement. Tripura by calling it a disturbed State and sending the Army there. First they create a The President int his Address has dealt sense of insecurity. The Tripura Govern- with tit length the achievements of the Gov- ment had been asking for the Border Secu- ernment in the last year and also projected rity Force for years. We have been shouting the major policies and programmes of the for this in this House. For years we have Government forthe ooming year. He has put been saying that b~ the side of this State is his Address in a high key and he has dealt 8angladesJ" the borders have to be guarded wjt~the national and intemational problems. by the Border Security Force ber'..ause Therefore, it is expected that the debate guarding of the international borders is the should also be at a higher level and onty job of the Central Government and not the matters which relate to the national and State Government. This has been denied intemational politics should be discussed. It should be discussed at a higher level and we and encouragement has been given to the I torrorists by th~ Congress aligning itself ... should notfcom-- down to lower levels. ~~-~ thereby giving them encouragement and Sir, the President expressed his con- then the polttical murders have taken place. cern firstly, about the growing terrorist activi- t do not know what conspiracy was behind ties in the country which started mora than them. And immediately thera was the Army fiva years ago in Punjab. Everyday wa see r!.;la. We have always been saying that guard killings of innocent peopte by terrorists. It has 385 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6.1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Add/YIss 386

now spread to Tripura. ThefTNV activitie.J') into axistancef is confined. according to me. ~ are also on the same lines. Now it has spread only to Punjab, Haryana and a part of west.. to Darjoeling in West Bengal by GNlF. This arn U.P. It has not spread to the rHt of the naturally causes grave ooncem and anxiety country. Nor has it spread to the rice produc .. to everyone of us, every citizen of the coun· tion. It is mostly confined to wheat produc- try because the unity and the integrity of the! tion. Therefore, I have been urgingl every country is going to be disturbed. These time I speak In this House, that the Green wanton killings and acts of violence are no Revolution should be extended to the rest of solution to the problems that exist between the country. In other States, where there is individuals or between groups of individuals assured irrigation system. where there is or between State and State. Unfortunately, delta irrigation, the production is not aven the trend is not going to reverse. In spite of doubled, what to talk of trebling\lt. The two the#tarious steps taken by the Government small States of Punjab and Haryana have all these years, in spite of a number of laws become the granaries ter the whole country. having been passed and action having been What is the sacret of their success? How is taken under those laws, the activities of it that the farmers in other States, the tradi- terrorists are still going on. Therefore, it is the tionally rice ~rowing States. are not able to duty of all of us, ofJhe whole country to see step up theirfP[oduction? It is a matter which that unity is maintained and that there' is no the State Governments especially have to disintegration in the country. We won our see and every State Government should see freedom by using the weapon of non·vio- that it becomes surplus in the matter of lance against the mighty British Empire but foodgrains. Of course, there is increased now we are not able to settle our differences production even of oil seeds, pulses and so or disputes/peacefully. by negotiations, by on. But still, muchlmore remains to be done. ~ discussions across the table. We are taking Sir, though the surpluses are createQ, an· resort to violence and killings of innocent other major factor which is respor1sible for people. This is unfortunate. Therefore, the diluting the surpluses, for not making them President's concern is very appropriate available to the peopfe, is the growth of when he appeals to everyone of us in the population. We are not able to rontrol the country to adopt peaceful means and to~ive growth of population. Thereforel whatever up these violent activities, surpluses are created, they are getting di- luted and nothing remains to be distributed Sir, the President has also dealt with the among the people, therefore, the people aro economic scene - the growth of the econ- not able to derive the desired benefits which omy. how it has become resilient and sound. they expect they should get them. There- He has said that we Are in a position not only fore, it is the duty of every citizen. and not) to become self-suf icient but we are in} a only of Government, to adopt small family position to meet any natural calamity. In norms and see that the population does not spite of the sovere drought that existed last grow at a faster rate than the growth of the year in several States. we are still in a economy. position to maintain the foodgrains supply to the entire country. If we go back only to 1966 Sir, in the field of agriculture we have - the year whictiwas the worst year in our done well. but the other States have to catch history - we had no foodgrains, we had to up wit~ Punjab and Haryana. rely solely on Pl 480 supply of wheat from the United States. From that position we Then, Sir, with regard to the growth of have become not only self-sufficient but also industry, in this year also the industry has surplus. The Green Revolution which came registered a growth rate of 8 to 9 per cent. 387 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25. 1988 on Pr. Address 388

[Sh. Jagannath Rao] . level. create an interest or creativity and We have also become an industrialised inquisitiveness in the young minds is the nation in the world and the public sector is second object of education. The third object ~ ,dOi~ better than it was doing eatlier. The is to inculcate character, morality and social publIC sector i8 the sheet-anchor of the in- consciousness. Our moral fibre should beY dustrtatised country. If we say the country is strong. I am sorry to say that the moral industrialised, it should be because of the values have fallen more steeply than money public sector, that is the infrastructure it values. If the moral fibre becomes weak, the offers, and it is the basis on Whic~he ind~"­ nation gets weak. Therefore, the moral atti- try is built and not the private sector left tude of a young child has to be built up. This alone. Therefore, the public sector should is the essence of/Indian cultu19 and heritage not lose the commanding heights of the so that the character of the child is built up. economy to control all the natural resources in the country and only the private sector to Under the new education policy, the utilise the natu. al resources for the/oenefit of rural and urban divide is also going to be the people, but ownership and control narrowed down and the rural youth will also should remain with the State. That is the have the same advantage, privilege and philosophy contained in the Directive Prin- opportunities to/stUdY in schools and to know ciples of the Constitution and that is being the latest techniques and modern science strictly followed by the Government. There is and technology so that he does not lag no deviation. The public sector has not behind from the students from the urban abdicated its/functions. Only the perform- areas. There is a mass campaign started by ance is not satisfactory, but now it has turned the Government for removal of illiteracy. the corner and we can hopefully expect that especially among the women/It is another the public saetor will deliver the goods as it commendable feature of the performance of has begun to do now. the Government. Unless a person is literate, his independence and freedom has no Another greatest achievement of this meaning. '1e should come up from the low Government is the new Education POlicYf level to the intellectual level so tha\ he can which it has adumbrated and has begun to appreciate what is happening in a country implement. The object of education is three- and what is his role as a respectable citizen fold. First is physical, second intellectual and of a free country. third is moral. 'Physical' means the young student, boy or girl, should be physically fit I am not going into details because the and know how to be healthy so that thet President has dealt with in minute details of healthy body is helpful for a healthy mind. I the various aspeds of the policies and pro- am not debating on sports discipline in this grammes and their implementation by the connection, I am speaking of the generat Government. ThereflS no need to repeat all health of the young child who goes to schoo!. that he has said. I would only say that in the That is the first thing that education should International field. our policy of Non- impart because there is/general immunisa- Alignment, which is an Qxtension of the prin- tion programme and health care that is being ciple of non-violence has won the apprecia- Introduced now which will go in that direc- tion of the whole world and practically 314th tion. Secondly, at the intellectual level. edu- of/the world is non-aligned today. We ara cation should create a sense of craving to opposed to nuclear arms race and also arms know the reason of it. the 'why' of it and not race in general. We want the world to be fr88 merely get by hea+hat is contained in the from war. We want 'tle world without bor- books. Therefore, to raise the intellectual ders. We want peace in the world ;:tnd not 389 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Address 390 conflid or confrontation. Our/efforts are on In where social justice prevails, this ragard, right from the days of Panditji up w~h equality of opportunity for to our present Prime Minister, and various every human being; steps have bEtan taken by the Government in this direction and to a great extent, we have where science and technology succaeded in seeing the existence of peace. have helped to wipe out poverty Th,need for peace is also being realised all and disease; over the world, including the Great Powers who are now able to come together, though where economic develOpment in a small manner, to begin with. Therefore, does not exhaust the bounties of the policy of Non-Alignment the policy of nature, but creates wealth in peaceful co-existence is a sheet-anchor of/ harmony with it; our foreign policy and it has given us a pride of place in the comity of nations. The stature where industrialisation and and status of a country in the world depends modernization are fused with upon the charismatic leadership of the coun .. moral and spiritual values; try and fortunately, for our country, we have got a series"'f charismatic leaders right from where all religions and cultures Mahatma Gandhi till today. We are therefore flourish in an atmosphere of able to maintain and follow the high prin- mutual respect and cooperation. ciples and the broad policies laid down by Panditji which are responsible for the devel- We have adopted these policies as they opment of our economy and earning a great are based on the teachings of Mahatma name and reputation which Iindia has got in Gandhi and Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. We the world. are progressing along the path of moder- nisation but our march on moral and spiritual In short, I would fully associate myself path has slackened and that is posing a with the sentim9nts expressed by the Presi- challenge to all orus. The modern gadgets dent in his Address and without being repeti- like cinema and video films are creating bad tive, I fully support the Motion of Thanks effects on our youth and it is a matter of moved by my friend, Shri B.R. Bhagat. concern for us. We have to think seriously in this direction and formulate a policy which could boost our moral level and enable us to [ Translation] march towards spiritualism. The present day cinema is creating ill effects on the young SHRt VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN minds and it does not help in building their (Barmer): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir,l support ~haract8r. Tt,. serial ·Ramayan' ...... n the motion of thanks on President's address liked throughout the country. Similar pre- which was moved by Shri B.R. Bhagat and grammes on I Mahabharata' 'Koran' and seconded by Shn Naresh Chandra Chatur- 'Bible' can also be serialised and telecast, so vedi. that we can march on path to moral progr... by viewing such religious and social pt'O. What the President has referred to in grammes. Mahatma Gandhi laid emphasis Para 3 of his address is praiseworthy and on khadi and prohibition. Today we no more reflects the/policies ot the Government. H. wear khadi and have totally forgotten about has said .. where the ideals of democracy, prohibition. We had enforced prohihition secularism and socialism enshnned in our when I was a Member of RaJ~sthan Legisla- Constitution are fully realised; tive. Assembly, but tt was withdrawn aftar 1 391 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on PI. Addtess 392 [Sh. Virdhl Chancier Jain] in a lot of mrru~n. OfficerS and public became Member of Lok Sabha. Today pro- representatives are aIao miAusing it. Gov- gramme. for increasing revenue through ernment should not charge Interest on this liquor are being run there. Thus, we are 50 per cent subsidy for four to five years in ignoring what Mahatma Gandhi had specifi- view of prevailing drought situation in our cally said about liquor-that it is the mother State. This kind df relief would be helpful in of corruption and adultery. The Central the success of tR.D.P. We have taken up a Govemment has decided to compensate 50 programme to solve the problem of drinking per cent of the revenue loss suffered by water during the Sixth F!ve V ger, Plan. The those State Governments which enforce Central Government has allotted mora prohibition. I think the Government should money to Rajasthan than U~ar Pradesh in not hesitate in compensating 75 per cent or the Sixth Five Year Plan. Al:OCation in similar even 100 per cent revenue loss, in order to proportion has been made in the Seventh move towards prohibition. Liquor is causing Five Vear Plan also. In spite of the severe moral decline in the youth and they are drought for the last four or five years, availa- losing health. Poverty is increasing among bility of drinking water in Barmer district is the workers due to the same reason. In the satisfadory. The Central Government ex- light of these facts, we should take up pro- tended help when we sought help for this grammes for prohibition and should take purpose. The problem of drinking water is a strong steps for enforcing it. complicated one. It should be given top priority in the next two years of the Seventh Another matter which I want to mention Five Year Plan. Proper arrangements for the here is that the Government first took up the supply of drinking water should be made in programme of poverty eradication. thereaf- the areas facing savere problem and in ter the programme like Integrated Develop- sparsely populated villages. Strong meas- ment, National Rural Employment Scheme ures should be taken to solve this problem and Landless Employment Guarantee Pro- on war footing. I would like to appreciate the gramme were taken up by the Government. C~ntral Government for allotting an amount These programmes have. yielded good re- of Rs. 452 crores in 1987-88 budget to face sults. National Rural Employment Scheme the drought situation. In all, the Central and Rural landless Employment Guarantee Government paid rupees 2000 crores as a Programmes have made substantial impact. relief to the States, which is really unparal- We have seen in the rural areas that good leled ;n the history of Central assistance. buildings have been built for schools, coop-- like Rajasthan, Gujarat is also facing the eratives, godowns and dispensaries in the problem of drought. But the situation in Ra- villages. Buildings of Middle and Secondary jasthan is more horrible than Gujarat. schools have also been built. Roads have Barmar distrid. which I represent, is facing been constructed under R.l.E.G.P. The the worst situation. The Central Government headoffices of the Panchayats in our district did not fulfil i1s promise of giving help to the have been connected by roads. We have State by treating it 'specially affected area'. made efforts to connect all the villages by However. same relief has been extended for

roads. In this way I this programme is making saving the cattle on which our economy is progress. 50 per cent subsidy is given to the basicalty dependent. But nothing has been people belonging to Scheduled Castes and done to save the camels, which is also an Scheduled Tribes under the Integrated Ru- important animal for our economy. How will ral Deve10pment Programme, but it is being the farmer cultivate without a plough and grossly misused. The subsidy should be how will he face this situation? I have repeat- stopped immediately because it is resulting edly said and have also written to the Han. 393 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6. 1909 (SAKA) Statement ,.: Test 394 on Pt. Address Firing of SurflJC9-to-Sutface Missile

Prima Minister that our area is facing situ- nor during the elections. But they began to ation worse than the tribal areas. Therefore, question the deployment of army the mo- , wheat should be provided to us at As. 1.55 ment the election results started going per kg. from February, 88 to September, 89. against them. Why the C.P.1. eM) Govem- Had it been done, it would have provided a ment did not oppose it at the time of impartial lot of relief. The amount provided as drought- elections? Therefore, what I want to say is relief is inadequate for providing employ- that wherever our party wants to held impar- ment to even 10 lakh people whereas we tial elections, the State Government creates have to cover 30 lakh people. At some obstacles in its way and does not want the places even a single person in a family of ten elections to be held impartially. I know that has not been able to get a job. We want two there was no foul play either in the polling or persons to get job in every family, but this in the counting. Therefore, it is useless to has not been possible due to lack of funds. ~ raise hue and cry over it.

As far as drinking water is concerned, Whatever decision our Government Indira Gandhi Canal Project should be has taken on the issue of Sri Lanka, that is in completed as early as possible. Schemes the interest of the security and the honour of for supply of water to Jodhpur, Jaisalmer our country. This has increased our prestige cities is based on the Indira Gandhi Canal in the world. I am sure that oUr Tamil brethren Project. Similar schemes for the urban areas would cooperate in jt to safeguard their own should also be formulated. Because there interests. The Indo-Sri Lanka pact is in the lies the solution to our problem of irrigation interest of both the countries. With these and drinking water. Rs. 105 crores have words, I support the Motion of Thanks been provided for the construction of Indira moved on Hon. President's Address. Gandhi Canal. It can be completed within ten years if sum of Rs. 200 crores is allotted to it every year. After the completion of this proj- ect, afforestation will take place, irrigation 15.01 hrs. facilities would be available and a perma- nent solution to the drinking water problem [English] would be found. Then the drought will have .~ very little effect. Therefore, it should be done STATEMENT RE: SUCCESSFUL TEST on priority basis. We are emphasising for the FIRING OF "PRITHVI", INDIA'S TACTI- material components for those projects CAL SURFACE-TO-SURFACE MISSILE which are going on under the drought relief. Today, the roads are being constructed but [English] not the gravel roads. Whatever, road or dam we may construct, it cannot be useful without THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI RAJIV the help of rnaterial component. Therefore, GANDHI): I am very glaj to inform the the material components are must for the Houss of an important technological construction of useful projects. This must be achievement of Indian scientists and tech .. arranged. nologists. It is a notable milestone in our programme to achieve seH-reliance in areas I also want to say something about the of high technology and of considerable sig- nation. Some of our friends were saying that nificance to our defence preparedness, military was deployed in Tripura at the time of elections. The then Tripura Government The first ever test firing of "Prithvr. neither opposed it at the time of deployment India's tadical surface-to-surface missile. 395 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pre Address 396 [Sh. Rajiv Gandhij President I have certain inhibitions. When took place at 11.23 in the forenoon today. there was a oontroversy regarding the im- The House will be glad to know that it was plementation of Articte 78 of the Constitution successful, meeting all the specifications. our Speaker had given the ruling that there Wrth this successful test firing India joins the should be no reference tcf the President of select group of 4 nations which have devel- India at all in this House. I was thinking to oped this class ef surface-te-surface mis- myseH whether it was perfectly in order If siles. This missile is based totally on indige- anyone tries to criticise the speech of the nOU8 design and development efforts of the President because it will mean the criticism Defence Research and Development Or- of the President of India inside.the House ganisation. I would like to stress again that and/Whethe" !t would conflict with the ruling no foreign know-how or collaboration is in- that is given oy the Speaker. But I presume volved. amplitude of the ruling will not be so wide and there will be occasions on which we will have IIPrhhvi" has a range capability of 250 to refer ~e President and, therefore. I will km with different types of large payload war- take thEfliberty of criticising certain aspects heads which can inflict heavy damage on ofthe speech of the President. In fact, h is not adversary targets. Compared to other mis- criticising the President because the speech siles of this class. it has the best warh$ad-to- is drafted by the Government. In fact, from weight ratio. Very advanced inertial naviga- the style of the speech it can very well be tion and guidance systems incorporating on- seen. board computers operating with realtime software are used in the system. After a THE ~INISTER OF DEFE:. ~E (SHRI number of necessary test launches. we plan K.C. PANT): I thought Prof. Dandavate to induct "Prithvi" in numbers into our De· would hays a good word to say about the fence Forces. missile.

On behalf of the House, I would like to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I am place on record our congratulations and coming to that. I don't want to mix up Presi- warm greetings to all the scientists, engi- dent with the SCientific progress. neers, technicians and workers of the De- fence .~8search and Development Organ- SHRt K.C. PANT: Ithought it may ~ave isation who have worked t,ielessly and with gone over your Head. dedication over the years in designing and developing Itprithvi". The nation is justly PROF. MADt1U DANDAVATE: Gener.. proud of them. ally, missile goes ~erhead. It has not gone over my head. Si~, I am coming to that asped. 15.02 hr•. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- MOTION OF THANKS ON THE TARY AFFAIRS AND\MINISTER OF IN- PRESIDENT'S ADDRESS - CONTO. FORMATION AND ~ROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): '+et us have good [English] words from you about the missile.

PROF. MADHU OANDAVATE (Ra- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Why japur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while about missile, about you also, I can, as an speaking on the Motion of Thanks to the exception, have good words today. In faa, I 397 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Address 398

warmly congratulate right from tfie begin- in;ng has taken place in this House 80 fre· ning up to the end. There is a rare occasion quently. Formerly, I used to identify with when you can applaud the Prime Minister's Marie\Antonietta. but now the word 'guillo.. statement. but I did it right-from the beginning tine' in the dictionary, in fact. will have to be to the end. And I shall say scmething more associated more with the budgetary de.. about it. mands. For the last three consecutive years in terms of the total amount of demands that AN HON. ~EMBER: Thank you. were guillotined, it was 85 per cent, 86 perl cent and last year 87 par cent. That means PROF/MADHU DANDAVATE: No, I only 13 per cent of the budgetary demands am)bankrg the Prime Minister, not you. were scrutinised by the Parliament. There- fore, the entire process of parliamentary As I was saying I that it is the speech accountabflity has been reduced by this which is finalised by the Cabinet, therefore, Government to a total farce. it is really a brief blueprint of the policy of the Government that they want to follow in the I am one among those who(have been \ course of the year. At the very outset, since insisting for the last several years that the we ar$ in the budget~essjon, let me go on budgetary process should be more account~ record with certain criticism and also pro- able to the Parliament and no demand spective proposals. should go unscrutinised.Let there be a standing finance committee consisting of For years together, there was certain representatives of both the House of this amount of dignity of the budgetary process. Parliament so that as\soon as the budget is People used to await budget: What will be presented, the budget is straightaway sent the new burdens? What will be new alloca- to the joint committee, it scrutinises the en- tions? What will b~ the deficit? What will be tire budget and its demands. The entire the impact on the economy? But now official original budget and also the report prepared budget is an insignificant phenomenon and by the joint standing committee can come the major resource mobilis~tion in the coun- before the Parliament. Therefore. the rast~f try takes place outside the framework of the the things can also be scrutinised. That budget. I do not want to bother the House standing committee will not be an alternative with the statistic1 for the last three budgets. to Parliament but that will be complementary But in this budgetary year 1988-89, I want to to the Parliament. That would actually make go on record that till we met on 22nd of the accountability In financial matters more February 1988, the resource mobilisation meaningful and more effective. . was to the tupe of Rs. 2,220 erores. I do not want to r91er,0 the freight and fare increase On this occasion. while criticising thel yesterday because it was a regular increase existing system and behaviour of the Treas- introduced in the railway budget. But ury Benches, I also want to point out to you through a statement by 01'\8 of the Ministers. that this kind of a constructive proposal Rs. 549 crores have been imposed in the coming from the Opposition should be ac- way of postal charges, telecommunication cepted by the Treasury Benches so as to charges. The total resource mobilisationl ensure better scrutiny and better coordina- before the budget is going to· be presented tion of the\financial processes as far as the; on 29th is Rs. 2,769 crores. There is no Government is concerned. Sir, yesterday in sandity of the budget at all. the morning I think when some Members from the Telugu Desam pointed out this Another aspect. The process of guillot- aspect. one Member made a brief observa· 399 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pro Address 400

(Prof. Madhu Dandavate] arnmant and which were the proposals that tion and he said from the Treasury Benches had been rejected by the Govemment. It is - because you.people have bee'rl discuss- worthwhile having that dialogue. And he will ing corruption issues and Bofors and all that I)e able to6

PRdr. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): When For instance, the synthetic textiles that he was t~ Finance Minister, he did not do come into the country are supposed to be of anything. e did not e¥en accept either your the order of As. 3000 crores per year. Even) figures or ur figure~. if this loophole is plugged, the entire new textile policy can be discarded and we can P~MADHU OANDAVA-Ti.: I think it rationalise the textil& policy in the Interest of is a very fine question he has raised. I think the organised mill sedor, in the interest of if he carydiscuss privately with the Finance the powerloom sector and in the interest of Minister, then he will coma to know whaf are the hand loom sector but thatj is not being the recommendations he made to the Gov- done. While I am at this point, I may suggest 401 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6. 1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Address 402 ) that only if this Government with political will misguide the House. I do not want to antici- would have introduced devices like demon- pate the privilege notice; I have already etisation of the hlgher currency considerable giver that and tomorrow at 12.00 0' Clock I amount of black money would have been will/aise it. ~ But anyway. I aryl draggad out or would hav~ baen~hrown out ~ sorry. I agree there should be no advance of circulation because ultimately even the publicity outside. According to the rules. we rise in prices in the country is the direct result cannot give advance publicity to our motions of a growing gap between the production on outside, but I can state in the House. one side and the money circulation on the other. We have d large amount of black Sir, as far as the stateme!'t of 20th April,) money in thelcountry in circulation. U~less 1987 is concerned, he made it absolutely that black money is either destroys( or it is clear that no clandestine payments had brought out and converted into white money been made to middlemen. and that the par- and made available for the developmental ticular propaganda on the Swedish Radio activities of the country, the inflationary pres- was malicious, mischievous etc. All that had sure on the country is bound to grow and been said and I have got a copy of that today it is growing. \You will find that even the statement. And while the Prime Minister Econom ic Group set up by the Govemment intervened in the midst of Shri Somnath had come to the conclusion that probably a Chatt9~ee'3 speech, he said that he wanted, double digit inflation is likely to bethera. That to make it explicitly clear.... i~). creates a disastrous prospect for the econ- omy of the country. When they speak, I do not tell ~em what they should speak. I am very rationally argu- Now, coming to this particularfix>int as ing my point. ... (Int9"uptions) What is to be to how even the important officials and the dona. You have to tolerate me becaus~ my Ministers of the Govt:rnment try to keep the voters have elected me .... {Ioterruptionsl skeletons of corruption hidden in the cup- boards. I will give you an instance. I will teU MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Np interrup~ you how they try to misguide this particular tions pleas~. House, the sovereigry' House, the lok Sabha. . -- PROE. J4ADHU 1)ANDAVA-TE: Sfr. I was trying to tell you that in this question ('nfortunately. the Defence Minister what is important is that we are not looking at has gone out of the House. Of course, he has these issues like Bofors, the West German gone to strengthen the defence prepared- deal or the Fairfax merely from a moral ness ot the country ....-t/ .. uupttfn9j angle, but from the angle that the resources are better to be made available for the devel- • You might recall that on the 20th April, opment of the country. That is why in the 1987 in this very House. the Defence Minis- budget process and in the budget debate. ter had made(a written statement and when we are more interested nn this asped. the debate went on and when Shri Somnath Chatterjee was speaking in this House, the As I was saying, both of them had made Prime Minister was provoked to intervene a categorical state lent, but latar on what and he made certain statements. And I can happened. We fint! that there are certain dare say today that some of the observations statements from the Chief Public Prosecutor which they madel-with supreme confidence of Stockholm and similarly on the 2nd Febru- on 20th April, 1987 have been falsified and ary. certain details have a4re:ldy come out. now it has been established that they tried to And you will find that on 2nd February - 403 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on PT. Add,.ss 404

[Prof. Madhu Dandavate] fore the Committee. I will give a simple payments, account number, companies, Incident. What happened about the Amitabh banks and handlers - all these details ware Bachchan's assets? Though an enquiry given. In which account the amount was Committee has been set up and enquiry is paid, which are the companies to whom the going on, you will f:nd that actually that amount was paid .... matter was also discussed at some other place. I would not say jn Rajya Sabha be- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cause , am not permitted to say so. MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AF- FAIRS (SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT): We [ Trans/ation] know all these things. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI (Simla): Why PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I am you are mentioning the name of a person sorry, Madam, I know you are feeling dis- who .s neither present here nor is a Member turbed but you have to tolerate me. of this House?

THE: MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Whom DEPARTMEf'!TS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS I named? AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI: You are HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT mentioning the name of Amitabh Bachchan, (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): We are who is not the Memberof this House. We are not disturbed. We know the whole story. discussing the President's Address and we should talk about that only. How many times SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT: I am not you will taise this question? disturbed at all, in fact I am noting dow" your points. [English]

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I know. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: There Ministers sometimes have no work at all. are a number of parallels. For instance on the Question Paper there are questions re- SHAI SHAAAD DIGHE (Bombay North lated to the assets of Amitabh Bachchan ana Central): Sir, I am on a point (;f order. My his brother. So, when a specific issue is there point of order is that when a matter is before names can be taken. There is no question of the Committee of the House. it cannot be making allegations. I have not made allega- discussed here. tions. I was only saying that even the issues that are referred to some committees for PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: The investigation have come up and to give one former Speaker has misunderstood me, Sir. example I gave that incident. I am not matt- ( Interruptions) ing an allegation. I am only saying or pointing out to you that sometimes even some of the You have to tolerate me. ltis but natural crimes which are alleged to be associated that he becomes embarrassing. What is to with soma people they are being discussed be done. So, there is no question. The matter in the House and I will give an iIIustrationJ might be debated before a Parliamentary Therefore, Sir, I would utilise this debate to Committee and so on and I can point out to ask the Government to come forward and a hundred isslJes of which some of the side- give a categorical acceptance or denial of aspects of the problem can be brought be- the repol1 that has come on 2nd February. 405 Motion of TfJanks PHALGUNA6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pro Address 406

So much amounts have been paid arid the the Government, I wish the Govemment will total comes to Rs. 64 crores. They have take advantage of this debate and clarify the given the names of the companies. They points as to why there is an accidental co- have given the names of the banks, :-I,eque incidence of these dates, i.e. the data on numbers. and the names of the accounts. which he declared that he is a non-resident Therefore. I would liks that that particular Indian, the date on which he resigns, certain aspect be gone through. important irregularities that have occurred - unless they' are able to clarify these Sir, as far as the manipulations regard- points, the country will hav~ a feeling that ing the foreign assets are concerned and there are certain skeletons in the cupboard. FERA viC"lations are concerned during the Budget Session. when the President ad- Sir, I wOllid like to point out to you dressed the joint Session of the Parliament, another important aspE:'ct which the we expected that through him !he Govern- President's Address has not taken cogni- ment will try to spell out as to what concrete zance. We want fair anc free elections. We measures 'will be taken to check up FERA want the authority of the Chief Election violation and see that there ;s no flight of Commissioner to be properly protected. The

capital from the country to avoid the develop- Chief Election Commissioner in the,Country.. ment of our country and actually the devel- ;s inchargt; of conducting free and fair elec- opment of some other countries .... tions. All the State Governments and the Centre are supposed to assist him. I had a MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Try to be detailed correspondence with th6 Chief brief. Election Commissioner. Since it does not refer to the functionJng of the Chief Eledion

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Yes. Commissioner and/I his decision, but I have Sir, I will be brief but only my brevity will be the liberty to point out to you the constitu- slightly long, that is all. tional provisions.

- All that I was saying is that Amitabh On December 19,1981. I had t~lten up 8achchan's resignation was published on a very important constitutional issue with the July, 1987, the date on which the proof about Chief Election Commissioner and that has a the ownership of his apartment in Switzer- relevance to what has happened in Tripura. land was published in the Indian Express. My Forrespondence with the Chief Elec(ion And, you know this involves FERA violation Commissio:1er through my letter dated because the amount that was utilised fOi December'9, 1981 ""as that if the General purcha3ing the flat by his brother, from Election or the by-election is taking place in where the amount was borne. Wnether the the country or in a State, in that case. what is Reserve Bank was consulted, Whether the the statutory provision for consultati=>ns and FERA violations had taken place, all these concurrence with; the Chief EI6ction aspects were to be gone into. There is '=0- Commissioner? I must concede that when I incidence of two dates. Not only that Ajitabh raised that question and the debate in the Bachchan, somewhere else, has declared Hous~ also, I found that the Home Minister himself as & non-resident Indian - and on represent;ng the Govern,. ,ent of India's which d;:de it was dona, it was done on April point of view and the viewpoint of the Chief 3. 1986 the date on which he purchased an Election Co•• 1missioner were quite diffarent4 apartment at Montrau;.( for 57,000 Swiss Francs in Switzerland. Now. obviously. all FcS'N(lstance, i" a very categorical r&pl) lhase fact!> w' .ich are brought to the notioe::»f that was ~en to me and te which I have 407 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 408

[Prof. Madhu Dandavate] says, "I am directed to rehn to your letter referred to in the past during the debate on dated 19 December, 1981 on the above Electoral Reforms, which I had initiated in subject and to say that it has been the this House on the occasion of the Garhwal practice that either the Election Commission elections, I pointed out that the Chief Elec- is being consulted or the Election Comm is- tion Commissioner was firmly of the view sian consuits the Central Government." So that the amplitude of Article 324 Cc) is ex- they had taken an absolutely clear stand. I tremely wide. He has come to the conclusion fully agree with them. I want this constitu- through the letter that he had sent to us that tional provision should be implemented. I this particular Article 324 (c) in the must say with soma astonishment and pain \ Constitution is so wide that it really creates that as far as Tripura is concerned -on the the condition for a prior consultation of the eve of the Tripura Eledion - without taking Government - Centre as well as the States the concurrence of the Chief Election - with the Chief Election Commissioner. Commissioner, withoUt taking the concur- rence of the Chief Minister of Tripura, the As far as Tripura Election$ are oon- entire Tripura State was declared as dis- carned, I am not going into the merits of turbed area. The Army was already sta- victory and defeat. I am not much concerned tioned there in Tripura State when the elec- about it. But I am concerned about one tion was conducted. aspect that whether today in Tripura or tomorrow in Maharashtra or Punjab, if cer- . I do not want to make any irresponsible tain/provisions of the Constitution are vio- allegations regarding rigging and aHthat. But lated by the Government, it will be a very bad I say that aven the Army standlng in the State precedent. ' where elections were goingfon - ju~t on the eve of the elections without the concurrence MA. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please con- of the Chief Election Commissioner and clude. without the concurrence of the Chief Minister of Tripura State is highly undemocratic and PROF. tAADHU DANDAVATE= I will highly unconstitutional. Therefore, this must take a little mOre time. I told you beforehand not become the precedent in the future. In that the moment you ring the bell I will sit fadl this aspect also must be debated. down within 15 minutes. Through you I will request the Speaker that some time should be found by this House to MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: Then I will discuss the constitutionality of that action not ring the bell. if I go on ringing the bell, that had been taken .n Tripura. There is a everytime you win add 15 minutes! That is precedent in that context - that is VJh3~ am the problem. saying. I was one of the M6mbers who repeatedly stood up in this House in connec- PROF. ~AADHU. DAND,6.VATE: 'Sir, I tion with the Garhwal eiections. And , said am making a very re1dvant point. In the next that without even consulting the Chief EJec- debate I will tuke los-; ftme. tion COMmissioner,.if the Centre tries to take away the para-military fron1 neighbouring I was po.nting out to yO~9 this particular States/and tries to over awe the voters in that aspect of th~ Chiet Et9ct~n ~mmissioner particular constituency, inthatcas~. !hevote which was commUnicated 1Q. m~ through the of the electorate was likoly to be affected. 'etterth,lt WdS dduf 05S(10 to f~e ily eecretary They were not accepting my contention. But t (Election Comm~';$lOn) Shri Gan6san on when actually the Garhwal election had 21.12.81 which makes it very ~ear and he started and it wa!'; found th~t a larg~ numbor 409 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pro Address 410 of para-military peoplt:t were sent into the powerloom ana Ina composite mills are Garhwal, the Chief Election Commissioner kept on par, as a result of that, in the matter sent his own observer to the constituency. of excise duty, in the matter of financial and he telegraphically communicated to the concessions and in the matter of availability Chief Election Commissioner that a large of cheap Yfrn, the powerloom owners have number of them had come into Garhwal and, suffered cf10t and, therefore, at a number of therefore, they were likely to overawe' the places, more than 50% of the powerlooms elactorate, and therefore the election was have been closed down. not likely to be fair and frAe. And, therefore, the Chief Election CommissIoner sai"'· I, am Coming to handlooms, for which Prof. postponing the election.' And the election Ranga and I have got great sympathy, we was postponed further. And at a later stage, find that they have been entrusted with the of course, the Congress lost that election. responsibility of Janatalcloth. We welcome That[is different. On that there may be two that. But at that time also, the handloom- opinions. owners had said: lit is beyond our capacity, with our present technology and the present SHRIMATI MARGARET AlVA: He type of inputs that we have got. Therefore, should have done the s~m~ thinQ, if he had more assistance from the Centre must be felt that way. given.' They are given ~SUbsidy of Rs. 2 par metre. Most of the States have demanded- PROF. MADtiU DANDAVATE: That Congress·governed States and non-Con- was not done( that is my complaint. His gress Government States have unani- conc;:;urrence was not oQtained. The Chief mously demanded - that the subsidy Minister was also involved. His concurrence should be increased from R~. 2 per metre to was also not obtained. Therefore, I would at least Rs. 3 per metre. No cheap yarn i~ like to point out that such precedents will available. A~ a result of that, the powerlooms have to be avoided. are suffering. 'f'he handlooms are sufferina. EnouQh staple IS not ;:tvailable. The excise Only a word about the textile POliCY, in duty burden cannot beboJne; and as a rl)«;tJI passing, because you will have to give the of that, there is a total mess. Fiftv per cent of reply. The entire textile policy is such a the powerlooms are getting; completely J Jumble, that It has given equitable injustice to closed. all sections connected With/textiles. Be- cause they have put a premium on man- Self-roliance is being defeated. As fat made fibre, the c.)tton growers have suf- as Maruti IS concerned, we were f"ot ~up­ fered. Secondly, because they had talked of posed to have the licence of the manufactUr- a high degree of modernization, importing ing firms which are going to manuraf1ure certain looms into this country which will private cars, and not publictranspon. l:iutthe displace a large number of labour, unem· moment sanja1:Gandhi made an appllco· ployment will grow. Onfthe admission of tion, the policy as changed, and actually Government. three crores of people are al- the Maruti car as allowed to come. The ready on the list of employment exchanges. Marut; people were told: ·You must be 1000/0 Those who have registered number three indigenous.' And as I saJO on onq occasion, crores. Unemployment is growing. ifI you go and s~e tha Marutl·~uzuki car, the only indigenous component in th~ Maruti- As far as powerloom is conrc:tr"ad, the SuzuKi car is the air inside the tyre of the car. Chief Minister of my Statf.) ha~ Alreadv writ- Otherwise, everything else was to be im- ten to the Centre pointing~ut that becau$,e~ ported. That is the tragedy. 41 1 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 412

[Prof. Madhu Dandavate] longed to the fraternity of students and As iar as self-reliance Is concerned, do ~eachers of /science and my specialised you know there is a very dangerous proposi- subject was also nuclear physics. Therefore, tion? Suzuki is demanding that their equity iry as the Defence Minister said that the subject the multi-national should be increased from had not gone above my head. fortunately. 26% to 400/0; and if that increase from 26% to the co-efficient of penetration of my head is 40% is allowed, their shares in profit wilt not very bad. Therefore. this particular sci- increase. This is the degree of seH·suffi~ entific achievement I grasp. I congratulate' ciency we are having. the scientists for that. I hope and trust that ~he scientists win be taken into confidence Then there isla Pepsi Cola Company. more and more so that self-reliance can be Both opposition an~ the Congress members introduced even in the field of defence where raised this question the other day about it, last year we spent As. 12,5~O crores on the multi-national being given a contract defence mainly because ofth~,act that large here - of course, the fruit juice technology components of our sophisticated machinery and other things. We insisted by backdoor had to be imported. If we spend from our do not allow it to penetrate intc\lndia. There defence budget more on research and de- are enough manufacturing firms. In 1985, in velopment and production activities and give this very Parliament, the Industry Ministe: more scope to the scientists in this countrr gave a solomn assurance that as far as non- our scientists will be a match for sClentistsln priority sector is concerned, no multinational any part of the wand and India can become would be permitted. But, today, no definite self-reliant trl the defence scphisticated assurance of that type IS being given. items. I hope and trust that will be done.

As far as Bills are concerned, th~y are In order that there should be a thrust in hurriedly gone through. I will give you one the policy of the government, i7 order that example. In the Direct Tax Law (Amend· the government should functionrffectively t I ment) Bill. how many clauses were there - can tell you from my own pe,sonal experi- 189 ? How many pages were there - 214 ence that when Ministers hold portfolios, ? In how many minutes it wa$ oassed? It was they can become effective, they can be J passed in 45 minutes. Many experts in the . innovative, when there is no Damocles country have said that such an important sword hanging over their heads - on Mon- legislation having 189 clauses and 214 day he is a Minister of Railway; on the next I pages has been passed in 45 minutes which Monday he is likely to be a Minister incharge witt affect a large section of the people. At the of some other portfolio. If that I

kept above tna table. It should never hap- genee, once again. pen I do not mean anything for any individ- ual.tAIl of them are good friends and we hav$ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Scm· to function as colleagues. But I say, as an nath Rath. institute, whom you don't like - and even in the past it had happened - and therefore it 1Translation] is necessary that when you have to put competent persons/at the Centre, you take ~HHI BALKAVI BAIRAGI (Mandsaur): them if you feel that their services are useful Professor Saheb has taken the period of full and straightway induct them without allow- 45 minutes. ing them to go to the pipeline of the State Ministry. But that is not happening. When- [English] ever someone is .wanted more, you shift them upstairs; but ,hat is not proper and as PROF. MACHU DANDAVATE: In the a result you find bfficiency, effectiveness college I used to take two conseclltive peri- and also credibility suffer; as a result the ods. Shalf I take one more, Sir? economy ·is .also ruined. As a result the economy is ruined, unemployment is grow- LSHRI SHARAD DIGHE in the Char~ ing, poverty is growing, and we find that there is a meSS\in all the accords. We find 15.42 hrs. that the assaul s on institutions are also increasing in the country. If in the old regime SHRISOMNATH RATH (Aska): I rise to we had a declared emergtmcy, I am afraid, support the Motion of Thanks on the we might be having an undeclared emer- President's Address to Parliament. gency. Emergenc¥ may be declared or undeclared. But th~products and the fruits of 1 he President's Address inspires hope, the Emergency are the same. ~onfidence and courage in the minds of the people. It contains a review of the activ~ies So, I warn the Government not to in- and the achievements of the Government dulge ii1 this type of gimmicks by which the during the previous yaar and its policies with freedom will be actually thrAatened regard to the important and current internal and international affairs. It has emphasised The democratic base of the country had national values and the need to reach the to be widened. Unfortunately under the pres- country's main goal. It reveals the determi- ent Government that has collapsed and nation of the Government to curb terrorism therefore, I cannot join, with all my respect and to isolate the Secessionists. for the honesty and the integrity of the Presi- dent as an individual, because ~a has put On the Punjab issue it IS soeking a non.. forward a document. which is not a reflection violent political solution within the framework of the President of India, but a reflection of of the Constitution. It reveals the determina- the President of the Indian National Con- tion of the Government to root out commu- gress. I cannot join hands with my friend Mr. nalism, and fundamentalism. It is the duty of Bhagat in joining him for supporting this all the political parties and public to rise to the Motion of Thanks and. th9refore, I criticise it occ3sion and not to compromise with evil. and I demand that aIJ these policies and aberrations. to which I have referred, should The emancipation of women from aU be corrected and some sound policies have forms of prejudice, discrimination. abuse, to be formulated. I thank you for the indul- and oppression has been mentioned in the 415 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pro Address 418 [Sh. Somnath Rath] Our target was to produce 175 million Address. And in fact in the last session we tonnes of foodgrains by the end of the Sev- had legislation against the glorification of enth Plan. We have got only two years. The SatL President's address reveals that the target can be achieved within two years. I think it is The Government is also determined to ambitious. Subsidy is being given to the solve the problem of backward and weaker farmers for inputs such as fertilizers, seeds, sections. Stress has been laid on the Twenty electricity, etc. but our production is stag- Point Programme and to eradicate poverty nant. The Government should seriously along the rural poor. Economic policies and think how best the production can be in- foreign relations are promising. The non- creased. We are giving credit loans to the alignment policy of our country has stood the cultivators, but it never reaches them in time. test of time. The Sri Lanka agreement is So also quality seeds should be given and being implemented. It will not only solve the the important factors are irrigation and water athnic Tamilians problem but it will also give management. We have got a Minister for security to our country and the region. Our Water Resources. But in India as yet we are Prime Minister has been applauded all over not able to connect all the rivers so that the world in this connection and for trying to irrigation facilities can be availed of and solve the problem in Afghanistan and Kam- hav0c created by floods can be controlled. puchea. Sir, Pakistan IS aiding the terrorists in India, acquiring nuclear capability by clan- Government has given thrust to science destine means and creating stumbling and technology. We are proud of our scien- blocks in solving the problem of Afghanistan tists. The Pnme Minister has announced in for the simple reason that if the problem in the House the achievement of our scientists Afghanistan IS solved, then Pakistan may in regard to production of the surface to not get sophisticated arms and ammunition su.rface missiles. from America cheaply and merely for a song. Another sector which requires Immedi- ate attention is that we invest huge amounts Under the leadership of our Prime Min- on irrigation projects, industries and oHler ister, necessary steps have been taken to schemes but they are not completed in time. face the unprecedented drought in the coun- With the result, there is price escalation and try and the world is waiting for it. Rupees two we are not getting the dividend. So stress hundred crores are required to meet the should be given on the time bound pro- Situation. A huge amount IS also required for gramme. defence as our neighbouring countries are investing huge amount for defence. So, we In the Address there is a mention of will have to sacnfice for political and 9Co~ National Housing Policy. to give shelter to nomlcal Independence. In spite of the acute homeless. It raises high hopes in the minds drought. our economic front achievements of the people. But what is needed today is to are no less; the mduc;tnal sector perform- see that there should not be population ance are commendable and there was a explOSion. This is the time to control birth- growth rate of more than eight per cent; rate. The progress in socio-economic field public sector has performed very well; infla- Will be negative if there is rapid increase in tion has not touched two digits; power went population. It must be arrested without any lip by 7.6 per cent; coal production went up loss of time. by 10.2 per cent and the handling of railway freight by 5.4 per cent. Huge amounts have been given to dif- 417 Motion or 'hanks PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Address 418 ferant States to meet the drought conditions Nehru. We shall adhere to it, come and for labour intensive works. But I am sorry what may, with the determination and to say that in some States these funds are courage instilled in us by Indira being mis-utilised. As per the report of the Gandhi." Auditor General. these funds are being di- verted for other proposes. Though there is a [ Translation] circular from the Central Government that the amount should be used on labour inten- SHRI SHRIPATI MISHRA (Ma- sive works like irrigation projects or tanks chhlishahr): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am express- meant for drinking water. the funds are being ing my view on the Motion of Thanks on the spent otherwise. There should be a monitor- President's Address. The Presidenfs Ad- ing and supervision agency from the Centre. dress in a way hints towards the Govern- In some States like Orissa the MPs are made ments' policies in the coming year, namely, Chairman of the Drought Review Commit- what work has been done so far. what will be tees in different blocks. But it is not imple- the course of action in the future. what are mented in other States as it ought to be. So the achievements and what is proposed to steps should be taken in this regard also. be achieved. If we see cursorily from this point of view. then it becomes clear that the Much has been spoken about Tripura President's address touches almost all prob- elections. and why Tripura was declared as lems faced by this country and hints towards a disturbed area just on the eve of elections. the efforts made to solve them. My thanks We have passed the Bill in this House and are due to the Han. President because he there is nothing unconstitutional about it. has kept all the problems in his view and What were the state of affairs before the have tried to solve them. elections? Were there no killings of innocent persons? Since the State was declared as a disturbed area. people could go and vote The country has been facing problems because confidence was inspired in their in the past. some of them continue to elude minds. If anybody is interested in rigging I solutions and it is natural that a few will have nothing to say. We have been on the remain in the future also as complete solu- T. V.• the Press and others have said that tion to all problems is just not possible. But there were free and fair elections in Megha- the main thing in the President's Address laya, Tripura and Nagaland. and they have which is praiseworthy for the Government also argued that such type of free and fair and the Prime Minister is that our Prime elections should be c mducted in the country Minister has faced all problems with full in future also. We JT Jst give respect to the courage and has taken some steps for find- verdict of the people. If we are defeated, we ing solution to these problems. Whether it is must admit our defeat. the problem of violent atmosphere in Punjab or in the North-Eastern States or in our So, I would say that under the leader- neighbouring country, Sri Lanka; however ship of our esteemed Prime Minister, the complicated these problems may be he has country is progressing in the right direction. taken steps fortheir solutions and has imple- I would conclude only by quoting a passage mented the policies of the Government in from the Address of the President. I quote: spite of the disturbances in Punjab, other eastern States, Tripura and also in Sri "In the last 40 years we have pro- lanka. I extend my thanks 10 Han. President gressed along this path, illumined by that his Government has endeavoured to Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal find solution to these problems. 419 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25. 1988 on Pro Address 420

[She Shripati Mishra] talism, caste and sub-casta affiliations will Not "nly this, so many things have been not be a true democracy because it will be mentioned about the External Affairs. In the based on wrong notions. If the democratic field of external affairs, our Prime Minister system is not based on fundamental prin- has acted in consonance with our foreign ciples. its end result-socialism-through policy. At every stage he has adhered to the which good things can be done for the coun- same truth. facts and principles which were try. will be difficult to adopt in that form. I enunciated by the leaders of our country. would like to submit that in the oresent day Prime Minister has demonstrated enough conditions, all attempts are being made to courage in dealing with things and in taking weaken secularism and if I say that secular- certain steps. In this process, he has met ism has slumped to its lowest level, it will not with successes also in some cases. How- be wrong. Now-a-days, religious fundamen.- ever, the desired success in some other talism is raising its head in various forms. fields has not been achieved'l. Forthis he can Government is taking steps to check com- be criticised. He was criticised and contin- munal, casteist and regional tendencies ues to be criticised. But to take steps to which are on the rise. I fell that more strong perform the task and to get engaged for its measures are needed to be taken in this solution is the most praiseworthy and coura- direction, otherwise democracy cannot geous thing. function in its true form.

16.00 hrs.. Earlier, political parties were ideology- based. When we entered politics in the [SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM in the beginning, we used to talk about the ideol· Chair] ogy-based poiitical parties. Whenever we talked about nationalism, our thinking was Steps were taket", for the development considered to be narrow. We used to talk on and modernisation of the country, for creat- international level and were not confined to ing employment opportunities and for the the country. But now-a-days, nobody talks progress inthe education field. We have also about the country. Most of the time, the talk achieved some success in it. Our leader and whether in or outside the House is confined the Government should pay attention to to the State. The han. Members raise mat- what I say. The first thing towards which the ters about states, 3nd that too eastern or Han. President has hinted in his Address is western part thereof. Sometimes, theycome that ours is a secular country and we would to district and even constituency level. run the country in a secular and socialistic Therefore, Government should take steps to manner. In this regard, I want to say that we promote national feelings,otherwise division are moving in the right direction and for will be harmful for the country and the de- getting enough success if not full. We should mocracy. I would like to submit through you, take care or three things. The secular state sir, that the parties that are coming up are no guarantees such an atmosphere in the more based on principles. Parties are country where there is no ill will among formed on the names of individuals, regions people on account of religion, caste, region and religion. Earlier, the party in power used and other similar factors. to work for the unity of the country. But now- a-days parties do not promote unity as differ· When such an atmosphere is created. ent parties are in power in different States. tt.n only democracy will flourish. In the Regional partias have come up in all parts of absence of secularism, democracy which is the country. Under these conditions. unity is based on regionalism, religious fundamen- difficult to promote. 421 Motion of Thsnks PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Addr9ss 422

In democracy, elections are of para- the people and are thus involved In the entire mount importance. Th9 hon. Members can development process. Therefore, effective imagine what impression the people who controls should be exercised on them. Oth- elect us to this House carry about us when erwise our good schemes, programmes and bogus votes are cast during the elections in efforts which are quite appreciated and for far flung villages. Now-a-days, 80 to 90 per which the Han. Prime Minister is also being cent votes are cast in the elections, while in thanked, will never be successful. Today the beginning this percentage never ex- they are not proving to be successful and as ceeded 40 to 45 per cent mark even after a result the country, the State as also the rigorous campainging. What impressions do Ruling Party are suffering because of their the people who elect us carry? To remedy failure. We are not able to properly impls- this, steps should be taken to prevent such mentthegood programmes we areformulat- malpractices, otherwise democracy will get ing. distorted and in that case, socialism will not come in ourcountry. Therefore I would like to With these words, I suoport the Motion draw the attention of this August House of Thanks. particularly towards this. Government is requested to take steps to promote feeling of SHRI RAM NARAIN SINGH (Bhiwani): nationalism, unity and secularism and bring Mr.Chairman, Sir, some of the Han. Mem- about electoral reforms to prevent bogus bers who spoke before me, made a passing voting. Many Government officials may be reference to the farmers and their griev- doing good work in Delhi, Lucknow and ances. There was no reference in the Presi- various State capitals. Their performance, dential Address to the problem and difficul- good or bad, do not affect us, but it does have ties faced by the farmers. Therefore, I would a bearing on the masses who come in direct liketo submithhatthe Han. President should contact with them. Junior Officers, have referreh in his Address to the farmers

Thanedars, Tehsildars, S.D.Ms., and offi- and labourers who constitutQ 70 to 80 % of cials working in the public distribution sys- 'he total population. tem are not responsive to the needs of the people and do not listen to their grievances. Reference has been made about the They do not work in the desired manner. drought which has hit all parts of the country Away from the reality and aspirations of the but no referen~e ha~ been made about the people, they ignore the people and are programmes that are going on to tackle it. unaware of the difficulties faced by them. You can see that the problems faced by the This results in wastage of funds and non- farmers have not been solved. Two lakh completion of projects. We must exercise farmers sat on Oharna for 25 days at Meerut some control at the gross root level officers for the 'solution of their problems. They re- coming daily in contact with masses in order sortedto Dharna as they have genuine diffi- to ensure that they work properly. Things are culties. Many people died there aue to expo- not going to change merely by submitting sureto cold but the Goverr.ment did not take good proposals from Delhi and Lucknow, any notice. unless the officials working at lower levels change their attitudes. I want to refer to an AI this happened because the price of organisation whom people used to respect sugarcane in Haryana is Rs.32 per qu;ntal,'~ a lot for its honesty. Some people may say while in U.P. it isfs. 22 per quintal. On thi. \ about a Thanadar to be an honest man. but side of river Yamuna, farmers get increased the people In general hesitate in saying the price while the farmers living across same about bank officials who give loan to Yamuna get a lower price. Therefore, these 423 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 424

[She Ram Narain Singh] You may remember that the last/time when farmers feel agitated and think that their the country was hit by famine, substantial humiliation will never stop. This is their griev- quantity of wheat was imported from out- ances. side. Today, Punjab and Haryana have more electricity and water than other States Maximum drought affe9f9d areas are in and as a result thereof they produced so Rajasthan. Haryana has ti large common much of foodgrains that we shall not have to border with Rajasthan. rn Haryana, labour- import/them. We have enough stock of ers are paid at the rate of Rs. 19.25 per day grains. This has been possible also because whereas in Rajasthan they are paid @ Rs. some canals of undivided Punjab flow 11 per day. RajaSthan has recelved Rs. 320 through Punjab and Haryana. Punjab has crores as relief whereas Haryana has got plenty of water as compared to Haryana. If only As. 36 crores. Even then, rural labour- dams are built on all the rivers of India, it will ers are paid at the rate of Rs. 19.25 per day resul1n the saving of millions of rupees that in Haryana whereas in adjoining districts of are spent on famine every year. Crores of Rajasthan labourers are paid Rs. 11 per day. rupees are spent on famine which go waste. If the work on Thein dam in Punjab is com- The price of fOdde1n Haryana in Rs. 26 pleted early, then Punjab, Haryana and r pet: fn'trund. whereas in Rajasthan. it is Rs. Rajasthan will benefit from it andlcrop pro- 50 pac~.maund": This variation in price is duction can also be enhanced. In Rajasthan. noticeable in adjoining districts. This has led the work on Indira Gandhi canal is going on to resentment among the farmers as they forthe last ten years, but the work is nowhere are not getting justice and are in distress. near completion. Money is wasted on many Shri Mishra was telling just now{ that the useless works. Attention should be paid on Central Government allocates ~unds to increasing crop production byiby stopping banks to be given to the farmers as loan and such wasteful expenditure. The foremost subsidy, but the farmers do not get that need is to provide food, cloth and house, money. Everywhere it is pocketed by bank entertainment and other things come after- employees. When Rural Bank Bill came wards. A hungry person does not like all Jfore thiS House. everyone was of thl these things such as radio, television, festi- j.)inion that there should be a type ot vig- val of India which is held sometimes in 1\ ~ ance board attached to ti. Proper treatment France and sometimes in U.S.A. or else- IS not given to the farmers and poor rural where. Crores of rupee~ are spent on this labourers. but it is not so in the case of and on the other hand, just imagine the literate people of cities. When the farmer condition of a farmer who keeps his family does not get his! amount of subsidy, his alive on As. 11. He has children and wife to problems aggravlte further. ", support and his condition is pitiable. But this' wasteful expenditure is going on. Therefore, The Government should fix maximum attention should be paid to the farmers. credit limit for farmers also as has been in the case of industrialists. He should be given It is true that Defence should be given loan according to his land holding. After the topmost attention. If we have to live in the aSf9ssment of his land through pass book. worrd and have to maintain our country·s he ~hould be given loan upto Rupees four, u"ity and integrity, theirfirst attention sho.uld five or six thousand straight away. Out of a b~iv9n to Defence, Then come agriculture. sandioned loan of Rupees six thousand, the energy and water resou~ces. In an agricul- bank officials give him only rupees four thou- tural country. such things should be paid sand. He is suffering a lot on this account. more attention 10 that the farmers could 425 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6.1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Address 426

make the country self dependent by growing and that is why they are prosperous. Hary- more foodgrains and the Government will ana too has sufficient water and it occupies not have to spend and famine I relief number two pOSition. Wherethere\s scarcity works. We have seen that the drought has hit of water and electricity, there is no prosper- successively for three, four years. If two or ity. Our country has so may rivers and their three more State could cast themselvw.... in is so much water in them that floods cause the mould of Punjab and Haryana, the damage worth crores of rupees every year. condition of our count~ would change forthe If dams are built on those rivers, the poverty better. If the work or1lndira Gandhi Canal of the#>eople wilt be removed and you will not is completed, Rajasthan alone can feed the have to waste money on famine reliefs. whole country. Thus, the farmer's condition is so bad today that one can speak on it for The second thing that I want to mention hours. is about prices. The price of everything is on the increase due to which poor and middle The Government claims that so people class people are badly affected. rrhis has. were given loans and so many persons have added to their woes. No attention has been been lifted abov~the poverty line. The fact;s ' paid to them by the Government. Every year that none is going above the poverty line. It the Government raises the pnces. The is all right in the cities because the people are prices of necessities of dally lifE: are also living in comfort there. Good work has been raised. done in the cities but go to the villages, in Rajasthan orin Gujarat. You will find that the The names of crores of people are condition of the farmer and the labourer is registered' with the employment exchangel worse there. You say that there are rich A person holding a degree of M.A. cannot farmers. But they constitute only two per become a clerk and a graduate is prepared cent of the total farming community and they to accept the post of a peon. The poor people will be the ones whose sons havelgone to used to join he army, but there is a tough Canada or America or have become officers competition there also. Condition of a class in the Army. All the han. Members of the IV employee ~f the city is better than a farmer House are sympathetictowards farmers and who owns 20 acres of land. A class IV speak In their favour but when the Budget employee usc:; toilet soap in the bath and comes, water resources, electricity and take good. Many of our brothers coming from agriculture are given low priority. These villages have settled in cities. Government sectors shouldlbe given more attention, so should also pay attention to the/wasteful that our country can prosper. If the farmer expenditure it incurs. For example, Festival and the labourer in our country gets enough fo India cost rupees two t,undred crores. Had food to eat, there will be no shortage of any this amount been spent in a district it could kind. Ot"er things are not of much impor- !) have brought substantial progress. There is tance. Mr. Chairman, Sir, justice should be; a lot of black money and corruption in India. done to the farmer and labourer of India. You are well aware of its )nagnitude. Poor They live in villages if proper treatment is people are suffering much due to corruption. given to them, their condition can be im- An han. Member from U.P. was stating that proved. If two things-water and electric- wherever you may go whether it is a tehsil or ity-are made available to the farmer, he a bank, there is corruption every where. It doesn't need any thing more. He doesl not affects the poor people. He is least con- need seeds or subsidy, nothing of the sort. cerned about BOfor~r Fairfax. His subsidy Subsidy is pocketed by high-ups. You can is pocketed by the bank staff itself. There- ... that there is plenty of water in Punjab fore, there should be some arrangements 427 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 428 [Sh. Ram Narain Sir1Qh] bring a radical change in strategy for remov- stop this corruptiory' Under these circum- ing regional disparity. stances. I cannot!support the Melian of ~. Now I come to the Presidential address. The President says. [English] "We have pursued growth/within the SHRI tSRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY framework of two crucial parameters; {Puri} : Sir I have gone through the the freedom of our country and the President's Address between the lines. Ifeel freedom of out people." inspired and encouraged that the President has confirmed the ideal of the nation and has This is a noble idea. The essence of enumerated specifically the objectives for freedom is that you should have the strength whiQh the nation should for. It has also to preserve the freedom. If we do not have enumerated our secular commitment that is the strength'to preserve freedom than free- enshrined in the Constitution. dom beco~es meaningless. We should not forget this aspect of the matter. Now what is The President's Address says that the happening is that regional imbalancG and 8th Plan must provide for even faster growth insecunty in this region is being created. So and maximisation of employment opportuni- far as Pakistan is concerned they have ties and reduction of regional disparities thlsf acquired submarine launched harpoons and is a matter about which I feel encouraged. all the Defence analysis show that regional But let us examine the factual position. Let Imbalance has been created. Pakistan is us see what has happened during the last 40 clandestinely manufacturing nuclear bombs years, whether the regional imbalance has and weaponary. Why are they so much been reduced/removed or whether it is interested in nuclear bomb! It IS not to be growing. I am placing before you thJlatest used against Soviet Union or Afghanistan figure that is available. You will findthlt in the but against India. Now Pakistan is attempt- year 1960-61, according to the per capita ing to acquire AWACS. Pakistan is in a State Domestic Product at current prices, difficulty to get it from USA. They are at- Orissa's position was 17 and Bihar's position tempting to get it in the name that they want was 18. Orissa's income was 216 an Bihar's to sea Id moon and, as such, it is necessary income was 215. Nowltn the year 19aO-81 for them. They also say we will not sign the the position is that O!,ssa remains at 17th Afghanistan accord If AWACS are not given position and Bihar also remains at 18th to us. This is the situation. position. There is no change. The chariot of progress has not passed over these regions. Recently in Rawalpindi the Pakistan Intelligence Agency held a meeting where all The tragedy of the situation is that the known terrorists and Khalistan protago- Madhya Pradesh which was~ 3 in ranking in nists were present and after that only the 1961 has now been reduceJ to number 16. Punjab killings have stepped up. Who does That is why I say the present strategy which not know It' Not only there are repeated we are following for removing regional ;m· attacks on our position in Siachen but the balances or backwardness is of no use. We Siachen stand has also been changed. have to change It radically and this fact must Once upon a time Zia had declared that bJnotad by the Planning Commission and Siachen is no-man's !and. Now they say it is atr the Ministries of the Government so that Pakistan territory and it is being attacked by all the Mtnistries may work together and India and w. have to vacate the aggression. 429 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) on Pro Address 430

Why there are repeated attacks on Siachen? Pakistan. However, we must be careful It is because they have acquired new equip- about it. ment because of which they are bold enough to attack Siachen. Now about China. No doubt we should cultivate friendship with them. But the fact T"e have been raising the question of remains about the 1962 episode which dis .. Kashmir. They have been violating the Simla turbed us. Recently, they occupied a part of Agreement and if you look into the totality of Arunachal Pradesh. That does not establish the picture we s~ould not forget the security a sense of friendship on the part of the risk of this country. Whatever is happening in Chinese. However, we have to reach some Punjab has been initiated and assisted by sort of an agreement or an accord with Pakistanis. Who does not know it? We know China. We should cultivate friendship with Pakistan says something and does some- them. thing else. We have had this experience when Kashmir was attacked. Pakistani sol- Now I come to fundamentalism, com- diers attacked Jammu & Kashmir in the munalism and fissiparous tendencies. This guise of tribals. We know all that. We should is the most urgent problem. We must be be very careful about it. careful that the message of communalism is coming from outside India. The in~piration Further, we should remember that a for communalism is coming from across our new axis is being created. It is not only borders. Recent newspapers reports indi· Pakistan-China-USA but also Pakistan- cate that Pakistan is having more powerful China and Iran. Iran has been the greatest TV system and they are jamming our TV purchaser of weaponry froin China and broadcasts in the border areas of Jammu Pakistan. Now 10,000 Pakistani soldiers and Kashmir, etc. A message is coming have been released from Saudi Arabia. about Islamisation in Pakistan. Bangladesh Naturally, we should be very careful about ;s also taking the path of fundamentalism. our security and take note of it .. The message of communalism is coming from those countries. Hindus, Muslims, About friendship and cooperation with Christians, etc. get inspiration. We must Pakistan, President has also said: guard against it. We must inculcate secular- ism in the minds of our people. liMy Government still believe that rea- son and good sense will prevail and the Now I come to democratic policy and its Pakistan Government will make a fresh strength. Prof. Madhu Dandavate said that

assessment of its policy towards India to the Election Commission should have been consulted for widening the security belt in I am happy about it. But let Pakistan be Tripura. What is the urgent problem-the persuaded to come to terms of friendship. lives, property and security of the citizens of Let our cordial relationship grow with them. India or elections? You know the CPM lost 8ut one thing we should remember. It is elections in Tripura. The reason is that the difficult for the present regime in Pakistan, then Chief Minister of Tripura said that the not for the people of Pakistan. We should security belt should be widened only after cultivate friendship with the people of that the elections. It is not that they opposed ft. country. The present regime there is 9urviv .. They wanted it. The Chief Minister said that ing on two aspects: one, anti·lndia policy and it should have been done but after the elec- the other is Islamlsation in Pakistan. W. tion.. So, the people could know and the should not expect much of friendship from people of Tripura could understand that how 431 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pro Address 432

(Sh. Brajamohan Mohanty1 My submission would be that we must the security of the citizens is being bargained have a national outlook. Our soldiers in Sri for political purposes. Prof. Dandavate said Lanka are trying their best to restore peace about corruption and all that. You know that but here commotion and criticism was so the Government of India have taken appro- much that it has gone to the extent of the priate steps not only in each matter that has Commander-in-Chief of the Army, She Sun- been raised, but some investigation was darji saying not to criticise too much the army rightly done by the Government of India. in Sri Lanka as they need moral support. What about the political leadership? ... May I invite the attention of the House (Interruptions)... I won't yield. (You sit about what is happening in Hyderabad? The down.) The problem is that our utterances judiciary was being attacked. I am quoting should not be responsible with regard to the from 'New Age': criticism of the army. Recently, there had been a discussion in the press whether the "N.T. Rama Rao, anticipating the pres- reputed journalist, Sh. S. Mulgaokar has cor- ent judgement, tried his best to black- rected the former President's draft and mail the high court itself. He had threat- whether the corrected draft was used or the ened that a jUdgement against him original draft was used. D09s it indicate the would be deemed as a judgement health of our political system? There has against six crores of Andhra people." been changes all round the world but unfor- tunately, the Left Parties are not changing. Does it strengthen democracy? The They require time. My submission would be CPI(M) lost in Tripura because of the blind that they have a decade behind the commu- antj~ongrassism. One could be against nist movement of the world. The time has Congress, not in all matters not in the matter come to have a positive outlook so that this of corruption. What is the observation of Sh. republic can be strengthened. Rajeshwara Rao, Secretary of the Commu- nist Party of India. He says: [ Translation]

"This policy of blind support to the TOP SHRI UMAKANT MISHRA (Mirzapur): Government has cost a lot for the Mr. Chairman, Sir. I support the Motion of CPI(M) in terms of public support." Thanks on the Hon. President's Address. The President has mentioned about the He also observed: achievements of the Government headed by the Prime Minister. Shri Rajiv Gandhi and "The role played by the state unit of the have also indicated about the steps to be CPI(M) is disruptive and suicidal. taken in the near future by this strong and CPI(M) has all along been supporting firm·determin~d Government. In spita of the TOP misrule in the name of pre- economic depression in the world last year venting Congress (I) from staging a and most severe drought of this century, come-back. In the bargain it got some Government of Shri Rajiv Gandhi has main- seats in thG election to the local bodies tained the tempo of economic development and cooperatives." in the country and have inspired self-confi- dence in the hearts of the people of the country. Our country has moved forward in So, the people of Tripura had very much all directions. In spite of severe drought, reacted against the blind anti-congressism Government was determined that nobody policies of CPI(M)- would be allowed to die of hunger and thirst, 433 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6.1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Address 434 and this has come true. Firm and determined poverty in this country? Shri Rajiv Gandhi is steps have been taken to safeguard the unity determjned to remove poverty from this and integrity of the country. The accord with country as well as from the world. What the Sri Lanka, is a big achievement of the his- Hon. President has said in this regard, is tory. Due to this accord, intera.sts of Sri very correct. Lanka, India and other South Asian coun- Hon. President has also said that efforts tries have been safeguarded. Had this ac- from outside as well as inside are being cord not be.en reached, such powers would made to weaken and to harm our democratic have come to the scene in Shri Lanka which political system, but the awakened opinion might have proved dangerous to India, Sri of the public of our country has always Lanka as also to all South Asian countries. thwarted all such attempts. Such abomi- Shri Rajiv Gandhi has made a big diplomatic nable and mean attacks were made on the and political achievement through ndo-Sri democratic set up of this country last year Lanka Accord. In this way, Rajiv Gandhi's that it is hard to find such examples in the Government has achieved successes both history at the world. There are four wings of in internal and international politics for which democracy. One is Judiciary, the second is the Government deserves to be congratu- Legislature or Parliament. thirdly. the Execu- lated. In spite of these difficult situations, the tive or the Government and fourthly, the Government headed by Shri Rajiv Gandhi Defence Forces or the Army. The people has safeguarded the honour, prestige, unity belonging to the Opposition hatched a con- and integrity of the country and have main- spiracy and unleashed such a sordid attack tained the pace of economic development. on these four which has no parallel. The hints given by the Hon. President in this direction are appropriate. The Government Sir, Supreme Court had decided in the of Rajiv Gandhi has taken decisions in ac- Shahbano case that no women should be cordance with the constitution of India and left helpless on divorce. Court had given this they are in consonance with the policies and judgement which should have been ac- programmes laid down by Mahatma Gandhi, cepted. If judgement was not acceptable, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and Shrimati Indira there were so many ways to seek relief. But Gandhi. As a result of their policies, the in Shahbano case, the Court was criticised country will move forward on the path of and abused. qontempt was shown to it and socialism, and communalism can be wiped judiciary was denigrated. Who did it? This out from this country. This will also remove was the handiwork of opposition parties and class-descrimination, casteism and poverty the people who are communal, undemo- from this country. cratic and cannot seethe democracy and the country prosper. Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru had linked the independence of India with the independ- Sir, Parliament is the Sanctum Sanc- ence of the world. Shrimati Indira Gandhi torum of the democracy of this country. In the had linked Indian peace with the world peace last session, the Opposition did not allow and Shri Rajiv Gandhi has linked the poverty Parliament to function for a week. Contempt eradication programme of India with the was shown to the Parliament and its forum wC'rld's poverty eradication programme was misused. Parliament was used as a tool Shri Rajiv Gandhi has endeavoured to inter- for charader assassination and its rules link science and technology with poverty were disobeyed. In my opinion, it was a eradication and increased production. What savage assault on the democracy of this is the use of that science and technology country. Parliament is the symbol and dig- which cannot be helpful in eradication of nity of democracy. If Parliament is d;s- 435 Motion of Thanks FEBRUAFlY 25. 1988 on Pr. Address 436

[She Umakant Mishra] the democracy· of this country by the obeyed, dishonoured and its dignity is Opposition .... (lntsrruptions) .... Sir, baseless undermined, it would be a direct assault on allegations were levelled throughout an", ~ the democ"acy. But this is exactly what the was said that Bofors gun was not upto the Opposition of this country has done. The mark. How Shri Oandavate can pass judge- Opposition members have thrown to winds ment about the quality of Bofors gun? the dignity o~ the Parliament as you have witnessed in the last session. This Govern- ( Interruptions) ment has been elected by the people of this PROF. MAOHU DANOAVATE:: I have country I Shri Rajiv Gandhi has secured larg- est majority in the Lok Sabha since 1952. never raised doubts about their effective- The Government headed by Shri Rajiv ness. Gandhi is a strong Government with huge majority. The people belonging to the oppo- SHRI UMAKANT MISHRA: You did not sition of this country and some outside say so; I thank you for it. Many hone Members forces have tried to malign this Government have raised doubts about the quality of and to murder the Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Bofors gun ..... (Interruptions)..... Some Gandhi. This was a terrible conspiracy and pepple say that Bofors gun is useless. It is a horrible assault on democracy. The at- like advising someone on a subject about tempt at character assassination of a leader which the adviser himself knows nothing. who is heading a strong Government with They do not even know how to handle the huge majority in Parliament-600 M.Ps. in- barrel of a gun, but dare to say that Bofors cluding 400 of the Lok Sabha standing sol- guns are substandard. Only those who are idly behind-must be deemed as an assault expert in the subject can pass judgement on the domocracy. The Opposition of this about their quality. Field Marshall General country, the Pross and few capitalists as al~ Manekshaw has said that Bofors guns are some international conspiracies are respon- best guns of the world. Those who know sible for it. It is an assault on democracy. Sir, nothing about Bofors guns are indulging in opposition members including some ruling baseless and nonsense talks with the sale party members had stated in this House that aim of maligning the Government and put- engagement of Fairfax Agency was against ting Shri Rajiv Gandhi to disrepute. It is said national interests. But when two judges held that commission was taken in Bofors gun enquiry into it and they stated in their report deiil. The Chairman of Bofors company has that the then Minister, Shri Vishwanath said that no one was given bribe. Prosecut- Pratap Singh had acted against national ing officer has said that there is no evidence interests by engaging Fairfax Agency, state- to this effect. But some people here raise ments criticiling the judges and denigrating hue and cry saying that commission was the judiciary were issued. This was a mas- taken in 80f6r5 deal. Such type of baseless sive assault CJn democracy. You just look at allegations have been levelled which are another interesting feature. When Shri Vish- harmful for democracy. So many vague alle- wanath Pratap Singh was in the rulir.g party, gations were levelled but none of them could the opposition termed it as an act against be proved. Shri Rajiv Gandhi faced these national inte"ests. But now when Shri Vish- abominable attacks wfth courage, intelli- wanath Pratap Singh hC's crossed over to gence and patience and has sifted truth from other side. the same peo,>la of the opposition falsehood thereby tiding over the storm. started saying that Thakkar Commission's Even then, some leaders keep on vocifer- report on Fairfax was a farce. This was an atefy propagating about it outside the Parlia- unprecedented and abominable attack on ment. Shri V. P. Singh and some of his follow- 437 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Address 438 ars who have left the Congress are indulging any type of drama. but by now the people of in such acts., But sensible people have this country understand that onty Rajiv understood that these allegations were false Gandhi and his party can run this country and baseless and were aimed at vilifying and none else is capable of governing the democracy and the leader of this country. country. Only Rajiv Gandhi can maintain the The people are sensible and they under- unity and safeguard the sovereignty of the stand that these are senseless talks. At- country and can provide relief to all sections tempt was made to lower the morale of the of the people. He has received support from army. One of the leaders went to t:,e extent the farmers, the workers and all other sec- of saying before Garhwal Regiment of the tions of the people in the country. Army that public would ask the Government to account for every army men being killed in I want to say one more thing i~ the end. Sri Lanka. Army of this country has a glori- A lot has been done for the farmers and for ous post. It has glorious history of its sacri- agriculture in the country. The backwards fices. Our army has defended the frontiers of areas of the country which did not have the country as and when occasion arose. roads, electricity have now been provided Some old and some not so old politicians with these facilities. A number of develop- belonging to the Opposition are sparing no mental works i,ave been undertaken for the effort to lower the morale of our Armed progress of the backward areas and still a lot Forces, weaken the democratic set up and is required to be done for the farmers and the for that matter weaken the country, but in- people in these backward areas. spite of all this, the Government under the leadership of Shri Gandhi has faced such I am glad to know that while addressing things determinedly. a gathering of 10 lakh farmers in Lucknow, the Hon. Prime Minister had announced that Now a demand is being made to dis- backward areas of Eastern Uttar Pradesh, solve the Lok Sabha and hold fresh eJec- Bihar and Madhya Pradesh would be pro- tions. It sounds quite funny. What sort of love vided with the facilities of irrigation and elec- is this for democracy! The Government was tricity, etc. The agitations that have been elected for five years after millions of rupees started for the farmers are politically moti· were spen~ on elections. We are facing vated. r:'ey will not be of any benefit to the drought and famine in the country which farmers. Such demands are being raised in require a lot of money to be spent to combat these agitations which are not possible to be these natural calamities. Why should there met. Our Government has done a lot for the be eladion after two years when the Govern- farmers. I want that more facilities should be ment enjoys majority, 500-600 Members are provided to the farm en~ for their wetfare and solidly behind Rajiv Gandhi and Govern- progress. ment is functioning smoothly? The people want work and work is being done. What a [English] funny demand is this to hold elections after two yearsl Elections were held recently in 16.56 hrs. Meghalaya, Nagaland and Tripura, where the opposition parties have tested their DR. A. KALANIDHI (Madras Centra'): strength. The election will be held after five Mr. Chairman: At the outset, I must thank years. but mind you. you will not get an you for having permitted me to speak on the opportunity to sit on this side of the House. Motion of Thanks or. the President's Ad- You may launch any number of agitations. dress. But I rise to oppose this Motion t)4f- hatch any number of conspiracies and enact cause the President's speech "either re- 439 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pro Address 440

[Dr. A. Kalanidhij are invulnerable to external threats and fleets the need for growth nor effective internal weakness. But it is only the weak- measures to control the price rise, nor any ness of Congress (I), and not the weakness constructive polices by the Government. of the people. This is the usual slogan which the people of India have been hearing from In fact, I am quite happy to note that the the time of Mrs. Indira Gandhi. Whenever President has given a floral tribute to the late there is a crisis in Congres5 (I). suddenly the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, Mr. M. G. external threats and internal weaknesses Ramachandran. But you have crowned him blossom. Please change your attitude. Try to by conferring 'Bharat Ratna' and at the same think 3bout the people, and not about your· time dissolved his Government, headed by self. Mrs. Janaki MGR. On the death anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi i.e. on 30.1.1988, you The President has also mentioned have defaced him, and stabbed his party on about the social justice prevailing in this the back. It is not a surprise fer me, because country. Probably, the President is not this is the culture adopted by the Conoress aware of the mass rape that has occurred in from the period of Jawaharlal Nehru. the State of Bihar. You may try to explain that no .. an individual is raped, but that the SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU (Gobichetti- rape was en masse. Probably. this is the palayam): The DMK had alliance with the type of social justice and equality prevailing Congress in 1980. in our oountry.

( Interruptions) The President has mentioned about the economic development in this country. I am MR. CHAIRMAN: No controversy. No very sorry to say that the economy of this discussion. country is in a chaotic state and on the edge of breaking down. 80th black money and DR. A.KALANIDHI: The President has white money co-exist in this country. proba- l'T'entioned in his speech that our vision of bly for the prosperity and welfare of the Inaia is of a land whose unity and integrity Congress (I) people. are invulnerable to external threats and internal wea~nesses. (Interruptions) Mr. Kolandaivelu, you must know that we had You are talking too much about industri- never asked for the dissolution. (/fJterrup- alization and modernization. The more you tions) I hope you are not the mouth-piece of talk, I think the more the mdustries are b&- Congres5 (I). coming sick.

SHRI P. KOlANDAIVELU: I am not It is really funny to note that the Presi- their mouth-piece. dent has mentioned that ;n the laft 40 years, we are progressing along the path illumined DR. A, KALANIDHI: M', Kolandaivelu by Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru. was a Minister at that time. I am V&ry sorry to say that you have a good- bye long back to the Gandhian principlos SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: !.1 1980, I and philosophies. You have totally deviated was not a Mlf"'Iister, Dr. Kalanidhl. from the socialistic path.

DR. A. KALANIDHI: The President has You have mentioned about the eco- mentioned in his ~peech that our vision of nomic restrictions: I wonder why the same Indid is of a land whose unity and integrity restrictions have not been imposed on the 441 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) on Pro Address 442 expenditure of the Prime Minister. When try to say that he can have a dialogue only there is a severe drought eXisting in the when the terrorists drop their activities. On country I what made the Prime Minister to go the other hand. the people from the terrorists to Lakshadweep and enjoy himseH, at the side may say that they will be able to leave cost of Government funds? Probably, he their terrorist activities only after the negotia- would have saved the whales; but one thing tion and dialogue. So this is a vicious circle. he should understand, viz. that he has failed HencQ I request the Hon'ble Prime Minister to save the people of this country from pov- not to float on false prestige. Please try to erty and also from illiteracy. come down and try to have a dialogue with terrorists.

17.00 hrs. The President has mentioned that this government is going to implement the 15 The President has mentioned that fail- point program me for the welfare of the mi- ure of the monsoon and the rain has tested nority people and the backward community. the resilience of our economy. A shrewd But, at the same time, you don't like to administrator should understand and expect implement the recommendations of the severe drought and flood havocs because Mandai Commission. So only you are shed- both are the natural calamities. So you don't ding crocodile tears. have a long term perception and long term policies. That is the reason why we always The President has mentioned about the insist rivers like Ganga and Cauvery should IRDP, NREP, RLEGP. These programmes be linked so that the problem of drought and are meant only for filling the pockets of flood havocs can be aVOided and ourcountry Congress people in the rural areas. It is not can produce green revolution. You don't a surprise for me that Article 356 of the have heart and mind to think about this. Your Constitution is invoked in Tamil Nadu on the aim is that there should be always Congress day of the death anniversary of the Father of I rule from Kanyakumari to Kashmir. the Nation. Prime Minister has said that horse trading IS the main reason for with· The President has mentioned about drawing support. I car'l tell him whether it has determination of this government in combat- resulted In some confusion In dissolving the ing tetrol ism. There is no second opinion Government of Tamil Nadu. Horse trading about this. We, the people of DMK, always and horse riding are the expert activities of condemn violence and we don't believe in the Congress I. Once you did on us; lateT on violence also. About combating terrorism, I AIADMK; now you are trying for a filly ride. can say, before the period of the President's For invoking 356, there should be (a) official Rule, about 1240 people were killed - ap- bankruptcy; (b) Constitutional break down; proximately 3 people per day. After the (c) and law and order crisis. No such thing President's Rule in Punjab, now it has gone has occurred like tin Punjab, Tripura and to 5 people por day. Even after the Meghalaya. All that happened is little chaos President's Rule you are not able to combat in Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly. The terrorism in Punjab. One should understand main culprits are Congross I and AIADMK of what is the reason for this terrorism. It is due J.2 Group. (Interruptions) I know you are to frustration and failure to understand their restless because you are out of power since grievances and failure to respect the senti- 22 years. (/ntsrruptions) ments of the minority. Hence I request the Hon'ble Prime Minister should come forward MR. CHAIRMAN: No interruption will go to have adialogue with the terrorists. He may on record. 443 Motion of ThanIcs FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 444

(/nt.rnu~,)·· you permit me to give the statistics, 40 per cent of schools are without black-boards, 70 OR. A. KALANIDHI: The than Governor per cent are without library facilities, 53 per of Tamil Nadu has stated in a Press meet, cent are without play-grounds, 59 per cent that a simple majority is sufficient to prove without drinking ~ater, 88 per cent without the confidence. Eight people have voted toilets and urinals and 53 per cent without against the motion and 98 have supPorted buildings. And you are spending only two per the Government. It is also a surprise that the cent of the budgetary allocation of Educa.. Hon. Prime Minister of India has mentioned tion. Instead of wasting money on Navodaya that he will support the undivided MGR leg- schools, I think you should try to spend acy. H they are undivided why should they money for improving schools. You teach the ask for your support? Why should they ask students about the length and breadth of the the Congress (I) support. They themselves Mississippi and Missouri and do not tech will be able to run the Government with the about Krishna, Godavari or Cauvery. When MLAs they have. I do not know why this you ask the students about Mahatma simple calculation is forgotten by the Gandhi they are showing about the picture Han.Prime Minister of India. It is high time for of Attenborough. This is the state of affairs him to change his advisors so that he can be existing in this country on the educational guided well in future. As you cannot expect side. a water stream in Sahara Desert, so also you cannot imagine national-stream in Tamil It is a surprise that the President has Nadu. mentioned about the barbaric incident at Deorala and praised much the Commission I want to discuss much about the of the Sati Act, 1987. It is a pity that the Centre-State relationship and the report Congress wants to have an alliance with a submitted by the Sarkaria Commission. I glamour lady who has contemplated to per- feel that more powers are vested in the form Sati on the demise of Mr. M.G.R. The Centre. I strongly condemn this and stress contemplation or commission arl!) criminal the need for decentralisation. The very fact offences. I think the Congress (I) wants to that the Prime Minister is unable to continue have alliance with criminals only. his Cabinet continuously and ronsistently and has changed it more than 20 times Regarding the NCC and other organisa- clearly shows that the time has come for the tions I only suggest the Government should Prima Minister to dilute the powers so that bring a legislation that a student after com- the States can have equal share of the pletion of school final or graduation should powers. participate compulsorily for one year in army services so that we can inculcate good dis- The President has mentioned about the cipline among the youth of our country. new educational policy and has given a picture that this police is going to take the The Address has mentioned that the country to the Twenty first Century. I can only Ganga Action Plan has caught the Nation's say that it is a colossal wasta of money. imagination. I can only say that it is the There are thousands of schools without Government's imagination and not the ahelter, without black-boards, without chalk- people's imagination. Even there also the pieces. without writing materials, toilets, and Government thinks about the Ganga and teaching staff, and even drinking water. H not about the Cauvery or the Cooum. There

.. Not recorded. 445 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Adena .we also mention Is made about the Northern I am quite happy that we are reaching a States and not the Southern States. I can stage of self-Sufficiency in oU, for which I only advise the Prime Minister, "Please congratulate you. But I cannot understand clean your hands before cleaning the what made you to increase the price of fuel Ganga. Caesar's wife should be above before Budget. The explanation given is to suspicion." cut down the local consumption. I can hum- . bly submit to our Prime Minister, other Min- As rightly pointed by Mr. Shakdher, isters and bureaucrats to cut down their former Secretary General of the Lok Sabha, tours, I think half of our oil consumption can the Prime Minister should submit himself be reduced. I request the Government of before the Bofors Commission so that he India to take more effective steps to have can prove to this country that he has got a more and more oil exploration at Cawer; clean image. Delta.

The President has mentioned about the drug menace and drug policies and narcot- About the Industry. one thing I ~ n ics. It totally lies with the Central Govern- proudly say that while Dr. Kalaingar M. ment; due to the wrong policy, too many Karunanidhi was the Chief Minister of Tamil formulations have been floated in this coun- Nadu, we occupied the third position in the try and there is no point in accusing the youth industrial map of India. Unfortunately, now it resorting to the narcotics and other drug has gone to the thirteenth position. Probably habits because the drug formulation are due to the faulty administration of the previ- totally wrong . ous A.I.A.D.M.K Government and probably due to the refusal of the Government of India Government should consult experts, to give licences, subsidies and incentives to physicians and surgeons in other fields and develop infrastructure. Without water and the Government should have an open dia- energy, no industry can prosper. Hence, I logue so that at least the drug menace can request the Government of India to set up be brought down. Only an effective drug more Thermal Plants to generate more policy and effective drug control can solve power and adequate water supply from the the problem. neighbouring States so that Tamil Nadu can regain its lost position in the industrial area. About the new technological transfers, I Please do not think about the Tamil Nadu do not have any objection in welcoming this. only during the Elections. Don't give chance But I cannot accept that this alone is going to for us to talk North flourishes and ~uth remove poverty, particularly in the rural deteriorates. I request the Government of areas. Both indigenous and new technology India to allocate at lesst As. 15 erores of should be implemented whenever and t .;apid transit system for Madras city and a wherever necessary. minimum of Rs. 10 crores for Karur-Otn- dugal broad gauge project.

The President's address mentions that I welcome your non-alignment policy 20 million pregnant women were immunised and disarmament movement. But you and 18 million infants were vaccinated. As a should not have Partisan attitude for recog .. doctor I welcome this but this alone is not nising the Liberation movements. You have gOing to solve the problem. The Govemment a soft corner1or Namibia movement and give should try to improve the living oonditions of a red carpet recaption for P.L.O. but at the the people of this country. same time you do not like to accept or 447 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 448

[Dr. A. Kafanidhi] in the various journals lake 'Veerakesari', it recognise the Liberation forces of Eslarn has been clearly quoted that wom~n were Tagers. raped, butchered and murder~d. So many atrocities have been clearly pointed out in The President has mentioned that a the various journals. I do not want to narrate historic Indo. Sri Lanka Agreement has been it. I leave it to the judgement of the House. made in July 1987. I can only say that is an utter blunder because you are not the person The President in his Address has said in to sign the agreement. It should be only conclusion that the supreme sacrifice of the between the Sri Lanka Government and the Army shall not be in vain. I can "epeat the Sri Lanka Tamil and not between India and same to you that the supreme sacrifice of Sri Lanka. In this context I would like to quote LTIE is not going to be in vain. Whethpr you a small example given by my leader Dr. .like it or not; whether you accept it or not, Kalaingar M. Karunanidhi during an inter- Tamil Eelam is going to be liberated soon, view to the Tamil News Weekly. A bride and because that is their birth right. YourseH and a bridegroom goes to the Registrar Office for myself are going to witness the scenario registering their wedding; the bride has af- soon. fixed her signature in the register, instead of the bridegroom signing the register, the I thank the Chair for having permitted Registrar has himself affixed the signature. rna to participate in the motion of thanks and You know what will happen. Now India has I oppose this motion tooth and nail. signed in the place of the Registrar and leaving the bride there. In what context they [ Trans/ation] have done, I do not know, they only should explain. So, the agreement should be only SHRI DIGVIJAYA SINGH (Rajgarh): between the Sri Lankan Government and Mr. Chairman, Sir, three years' time is suffi· the Sri Lankan Tamils and not between India cient to assess the performance of an}' and Sri Lanka. It has been rightly pointed out Government. The Government headed by by the former External Affairs Secretary Mr. Shri Rajiv Gandhi has achieved success on A.P. Venkateswaran that you are putting the all basic issues whether it is internal law and cart before the bullock. order problem. foreign policy, industrial pro· duction, agricultural production, price con- trol/ public-welfare policies or education. If we go through hon. President's Address, all You are spending nearly three to five these things find mention therein, which is an crores of rupees per day in a foreign soil indication of Han. Rajiv's success and the without obtaining permission from the Par- success of our Government. liament or without any budgetary allocation. I have very high opinion about our Indian 17.16 hr•• Army personnel. I do not have any second opinion on that. In fact I congratulated them [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKERln the -Chair] in my previous speeches about their heroic deeds during the Bangladesh Liberation but Han. Sh(i Dandavate is a very fierce and at the same time I cannot hide the atrocities learned leader of the OppoSition }snd jn his dona by the Indian Army personnal since speech he covered all subjects and touched about six months or so. You can see the all points, but he made no mention of issues atrocities committed by them. In the daily and achievements that have been men- 'Telegraph' dated Nov. 3rd, 4th and 5th, and tioned in the Address. He has nothing to do 449 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pt. Address 450

with all these things. He does net want to. Punjab also. but/after the murder ot Sant touch these points which relate to. the Lengewal, there is ne leadership ameng the achievements made by the Gevernment. He Sikhs of Punjab 'wheceuld implement the has to politicise every issue and that is why Accord and face the terrorists with ceurage. he has delivered a· stereo-typed speech once again in the House. The subjects iike ·What is needed fer solvinq the Punjab.?: ' . Bofors, Submarine, Fairfax, etc. have been problem and to. implement the PunjabAc- discussed in theHouse time and again and cord is that, the Central" Gevernment should Indeference to.the views ot the Oppesitien, strengthen all thpse ferces which couldtace Hon. Rajiv Gandhi has also. taken action en the terrorists squarely and could cress all points. When the Fairtax issue cropped swords with communal forces while remain- up,~senquirywas entrusted to.two.judges ot ing within the framewerk of our Constitution. the Supreme Court Later en, when a ds-' Today, there is a lack of such leadership in mand was made a~/te why the enquiry was Punjab and as leng as such a leadership entr.ustedto the Supreme Court judges and ameng Sikhs\does net emerge, the solution . .Nhy a Parliamentary Cemmittee was net .to Punjab problem seems to. be difficult. const~uted. and when Bofers issue was raised, hon. Shri Rajiv Gandhi censtituted a Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, HOR. Rajiv Parli~mentary Committee and handed over Gandhi has achieved great success in the the werk relating to the enquiry to.iLThatlteo fereign policy. Whether it is the Inde-Sri did not satisfy the opposition and they Lanka Accord er the problems of poor coun- wantedthat it should be headed by an oppo- tries, whether, it is the question ot raising 8~ionMember. When the peeple have given . voice aqalnst the countries practising apart- the Congress Party their mandate and have heid, in whatever part ~f the world they may elected it to the House with a majerity, there be, Shri Rajiv Gandhi has firmly steed by the is no questien of giving thenfmajority repre- eppressed and has earned a distinct place sentatien in the cemmittee. It seems, the fer the country in tHe world. objective ef the oppositien is to make a: misleading propaganda in the whele country Similarly, there has been a continuous and to malign the leadership. They have increase ot 8 to. 10 per cent in the Industrial nothing to. de with the natien-building and production in ~pite of all odds, Pewer gen- have no in!erest in public welfare pregram- eration, mineral production and freight-car- mes. rying capacity of the Railways have also. increased. ln spite of the severe drought, the f Hon. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if we take (he fall in Agricultur~1 production has net been as /ssueof internal security.there were several much as' the peeple had. apprehended. disputes geingon in Punjab, Mizeram and When famine used to. hit fifty to. sixty years Assam when the Prime Minister assumed age, lakhs ot peep le weuld die ot hungerthe charge. The Constitutien was being sub- right steps but taken by Shri Rajiv Gandhi jected to insult and its copies were being and the consistent and just policies ef the burnt there. The Constitution was being Cengress has made us capable of facing negated, but Shri Rajiv Gandhi ,signed ac- . these natural calamities in their stride ..

cords and solved all those problems, Today, t : elected Governments are in power in They talk ot price control. The Whele: Meghalaya and Assam and ·after having sale-Price-Index has never registered ~i'1 taken oath under the constitution, they are increase of mere than seven t~nine per cent running programmes of public welfare. Our during the reign ot theCengress Party. Shri Accord would have been successful in Dandavate himself was the member of that ~1 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Add,... 452 [Sh. Oigvijaya Singh] number may increase in the aociety. Some Cabinet und.; whose stewardlhlpf inflation cash incentive shouidlbe announced for roM as high as 21 par cent. But in spite ofthe them in order to have a check over the drought, our Government kept prices under communal riot8. To keep the communal check. organisations under complete control is the need of the hour. Organisations like RSS Public-waHare policies, whether they Md da., ,ail e Iat_PM and sim ilar other organ- are related to the welfare of tribals and isationswhich spread communalism, hatred Scheduled Castes, wheth8 i is a matter of among religions and run political activ~ie~t helping villagers and the poor through religions places should be banned. schemes, such as, IRD , NREP and t I would like to give you a suggestion. We RLEGP, whether it is the question of Hous- ing Schemes such as Indira Awaa Yojana or have introduced Rural Employment Urban housing schemes, or whether it is a Scheme but we have not been able to pro- matter of drinking water, the Congress vide help to those rural labourers for whom Government headed by Shri Rajiv Gandhi! this scheme was originally strrted. We has formulated all these schemes and they should make arrangements to /conduct a are being firmly implemented. survey of and provide identity cards to every unemployed family living in the rural areas to Technology has been utilized in the field enable them to get employment for at least of education, drinking water, communica- 300 days in a year. They should also be tion. health, and for increasing the produc- provided foodgrains, sugar and edible oil at tion of oilsQeds and pulses. Emphasis has cheap rateS/from fair price shops. Special been laid on the qualitative improvement in arrangements should be made to provide education. Navodaya\'idyalayas have been these things from the fair price shops to opened. What I mean to say is that Govern- those who are living below the poverty line ment headed by Shri Rajiv Gandhi has been and are hardly able to make their both ends successful at every point and in every field meet. during the last few years. We do not want to join issue with those who do not wan~o see Holding elections of autonomous bod· our a~hievements. Their only motive is to . ies is necessary. whether/it is a Municipal raise a hue and cry and make misleading Committee or Panchayat. We cannot set up propaganda. But th9 people of India have a true secularism in this country until we proved that they are very well aware of the make prOVisions for holding regular elee- fact that this Government works for the poor, tions to such bodies. Mahatma Gandhi workers, farmers, Harijans an4 minorities. dreamt of each village to be an independent Republic in free India. Decentralisation of Today, attempts are being made to powe1in true sense cannot be done unless spread communalism in the country. The we hold Panchayat elections regularly and need of the hour is to fight against it boldly. provide sufficient powers to Panchayats I would request the Hon.Prime Minister that through the Constitution. Therefore. I would efforts should be made to solve the dispute suggest that discussions should be held and over Babri Masjid and Ram Janarr[Bhoomi consultations made to decide what provi- expeditiously. At the same time, we should sions Q)uld 9& made in the Constitution for highlight the instances of communal har· autonomoUS{ organisations. mony in towns and cities and give suitable rewards to those who have' mad. fruitful Similar discussions wi have to be contribution in this regards 80 that their made regarding jucIIcIIIy .... IIorta have 453 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA'6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Address 454 bean made to provide low cost justice bring about changes in the emnomicsystem through legal aid. Likewise, efforts have of this country. the same conservative forces bean made to dispose of old and compli- started oPP9('ing her. foday, the same cated cases through Lok-Adalats. However, forces are at(WOrk once again. May be, the I consider these measures insufficient ir/th~ faces, the masks or the persons have light of present circumstances. Improve- changed, but they represent the same ments are needed to be made in the judici- vested interests. Shri Rajiv Gandhi had ary. Any person can file appeal at six levels challenged them in his address at the Con- on any case I can say firmly that the present gress Party session. Those Vertsd interests provisions for ju,tice are not in favour of the :', in this country are trying to creat indrances poot people. W9fShail have to think aboutthe in his way. The people of this untry have way through which we can bring about elected Shri Rajiv Gandhi and his Govern ... changes in the judicial system to make it ment to lead the country. They have de- useful 'for the poor. manded changes in the basic structure of the country. The changes sought are in political I have read the statement of the Minister and administrative fields and in the judiciary'; of lawon Nyaya Panch~yats.ltwillbeagood The people of this country have demanded beginning to \set up maximum number of changes in these fields and our Hon. Prime such Panchayats and to give them judicial Minister in endeavouring to bring changes in powers. Sensitive administration constitutes these areas. the 20th point of the 20 Point Programme of Shri Rajiv Gandhi. In spite of the best Shri Rajiv Gandhi is a capable leader schemes and programmes formulated by and India is looking towards him. I am fully the Government, the benefits will not reacti confident that the beginning which/he has those who need these benefits unless they made and the debate on nation-building are properly implemented. We come across which he has initiated will be taken to its variety of complaints about corruption. A logical end. After that the fundamental sensitive administration is required to re- changes which this country needs in the dress these grievances. We must think fields of eoonomy, administration, judiciary about the way as to how we can make our and politics, will be brought about. We have administration people-oriented, how w~can t~ulfil all the promises which we made to our keep a check over it and tighten it and how people at the time of elections. I am grateful the bureaucrats can be made answerable to you for giving me an opportunity to speak. and taken to task for their misdeeds. SHRI RAMESHWAR NEEKHRA (Hos- Whenever efforts were made to bring hangabad): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to about changes in 1'le country, the policy of support the Motion of Thanks on the Hon. the Government was oppose'- PandJt} I President's Address to the joint session of Jawaharlal Nehrul was opposed when he Parliament. The most important point which tried to introduce sociaHst pattern of society the Han. President has said this and rightly in the country. There were conservatives too because it is the opposition leaders who who represented the vested interests of a have been committing the most serious particular group and they were not willing to social crime, of late, in the country. Some accept any change. History testifies the fact vested interests are also involved in this that such people opposed Pandit Jawaharlal/ sordid attempt. Attempts are being made Nehru, but such was his personality and today to shake the confidence of the people, leadership that they could do him no harm. disturb the communal harmony, and je0p- later, when Shrimati Indira Gandhi tried to ardize unity, integrity and democratic valu.. 455 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 456

[Sh. Rameshwar Neekhra] A most sordid attempt was made re- of this country .. They are trying to demolish cently to lower the morale of the army of our the pillars upon which our democracy rests. country. They talked of Bofors, Fairfax. That is why the Hen. President in his Ad- substandard guns and also said that our dress mentioned, first of all, to raise the army should not have been sent in Sri Lanka. morale of the people of our country. Thereby lowering the morale of the army. A top ranking military personnel who was re- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, through you I turning from Colombo met me in the train, want to say that our friends in the opposition and I asked him to give his opinion as a have been misleading the people for the last responsible citizen of the country-politics few days by making false propaganct~. apart-on the Indo-Sri Lanka Accord. What Today also, one opposition Member uttered has been the performance olour Army which some wrong things in this House. They are is working as a peace-keeping force? He always raising doubts while speaking. They replied that if I was a responsible citizen of talk of having faith in democracy but they do this country I must believe that Indo-Sri not trust the Government elected by the Lanka Accord was aimed at safeguarding people and er.joying majority in democracy. the security of our country. Shri Jayeward- They oppose the decisions of the Govern- hene wanted in Sri Lanka.... (Interrup- ment. Similarly they talk of having faith in the tions) ... judiciary, but when two Supreme Court judges, named Thakkar-Natarajan, gave [English] their report they were not prepared to accept it and instead talked of throwing it into the DR. A KALANIDHI (Madras Central): dust bin. In this view, all employees are One objection to that. Do you mean to say incompetent and corrupt. You can imagine that we are irresponsible citizens? the type of the opposition this country has. By speaking a foreign language, they are ( Interruptions) tryingto lowerthe morale of the people of this country and are trying to jeopardize the AN HON. MEMBER: You have ex- communal harmony and secularism. Wher~ pressed your point of view when you spoke. ever an unjust agitation is launched, they Please sit down. give their full support to it. DR. A. KALANIDHI: Don't say that. We Shri Subramaniam Swamy, an ex M.P., are batter than you. We have more faith on was heard saying recently that no treason· our Army .... (lnterruptions) .... Do you mean ous activities were being run inside the to say that we are' irresponsible citizens? ... Golden Temple in Amntsar. Later on, this (Interruptions) .... We will not keep quiet. MP had to change his statement. We have Don't say that we are irresponsible. We are listened to the speeches of the leaders of the more responsible than you. We are not in- Opposition parties so many times very atten- volved in Bofors scandal.. .. (Interruptions). tively in this Parliament. They always delivar inflammatory speeches so that the young MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I don't allow could be enraged, public could be instigated any arguments. and an anarchic sItuatIon could be created ( Interruptions) throughout the country. I have never heard them speaking that confidence should be [ Translation] restored in the people of the country so that we could stand firmly. SHRI RAMESHWAR NEEKHRA: I 457 Motion of Thanks PHAlGUNA 6,1909 (SAKA) on Pro Address 458

have nothing to say about responsible citi- SHRI N.V.N. SOMU (Madras North): zenstalking in an irresponsible manner. You We have given Bangladesh but we have not may consider yourself a responsible citizen. given Tamil Eelam. This is double standard The whole world knows about the strategic for Congress. importance of Sri Lanka. Mr. Jayewardhane needed help in Sri Lanka. Had he not taken [ Trans/ation] help from India, Pakistan, China and Amer- ica would have come forward for help. In that SHRI RAMESHWAR NEEKHRA: The case the forces which want India to be disin- Prime Minister, the Defence Minister, who tegrated would have started helping Sri are elected by the people of India. know Lanka and firing missiles on India. Perhaps better where to deploy the Army. They have you would have liked that situation ... (lnter- to decide ruptions) .... priorities .... (In terruptions) .... Deputy Speaker, Sir, link gets discontinued owing to [English] Interruptions made by our friends.

DR. A. KALANIDHI: That is why we say SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI (Adilabad): don't waste your Army in Sri Lanka. You too interrupt.

( Interruptions) SHAt RAMESHWAR NEEKHRA: I never interrupt. J always pay attention to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Kal- what you speak .... (Interruptions) .... anidhi, don't interrupt. He is not yielding. These people may say anything, but the ( Interruptions) sacrifices made by the Congress Party to safeguard the unity, integrity and secularism DR. A. KALANIDHI: What we say isthat of this country are unparalleled, whether instead of keeping it there, if you keep it on these sacrifices were made by Mahatma the borders of Pakistan, it will be much more Gandhi or Indira Gandhi. useful. That is what we are telling. We are more bothered about our country than you. Our Prime Minister dared to viSit Sri Lanka for signing the accord in spite of ( Interruptions) knowing the fact that the Prime Minister and the Army was not cooperating with the Presj~ DR. A. KALANIDHI: The massive man- dent of Sri Lanka. He went there and signed data was given to you before the Accord and tha accord in spite of his life being at stake. not now. Let you have the elections now. Although he had to face deadly attack, yet he You will come to zero. In U.P. you got zero in reached accord for the unit and integrity of 1977. Don't forget that. the country. These people may say any· thing, but very few of them can imagine how AN HON. MEMBER: We will face that much he does for the unity and integrity of you talk of Tamil Nadu. this country_ I have noticed that when Babari Masjid-Ram Janam Bhoorni issue flarea up DR. A. KALANIDHI: For 22 years, you recently, the Members of Parliament sup- are out of stream, out of power in Tamil ported both the warring camps. They join Nadu. their processions and instigate them. They never talk of national unity and integrity. ( Interruptions) Sometimes they talk of supporting KhaU.tan 459 Motion 01 Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Add",ss 480 ISh. Rameshwar Naekhra) Central): It is not your money. and some other time they try to instigate Sikhs and another communities. They take SHAI RAMESHWAR NEEKHRA: But it III when Prime Minister calls for unity and this money has been allotted by the Con- integrity of this country. They say that the gress Government. Government has not acted firmly. What type of firmness do they want? In which field do [ Translation] they want to judge the firmness? In every field the work has been done firmly. This money has been allotted by the Congress Government. It is due the policies I work at grass root level. I have seen ofthe Congress Governmentthatthe money how speedily the poverty eradication pro~ is reaching there. But they cannot make this gramme for which 30 percent of the total thing public. If they do so, it is possible that budget has been allocated is being imple- their Governments may not be able to con- mented. When I visit the villages, I inquire tinue in the States concerned. They cannot about the implementation of I.R.D.P. I find accept this fact in the public due to political that through subsidy and other means, 23 compulsion. million families of our country have been able to be self-dependent. When I go to the Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, the country village, I ask the farmers what else help has done a lot in the field of education. All should we render to them. To this they reply parties and people belonging to all sections that if I want to help them, settle the families of the society unanimously 8fcept the fact of labourers in their village, because labour- that the system of education prevalent in the ers of their village have been rejuvenated country in the post-independence period with the help of money provid~d by the had been introduced by Lord Macaulay. It is Government through banks. In this way, a system which produces clerks and gives I.R.D.P. has brought about a big social and rise to capitalism. People from all walks of economic revolution in this country. But this life whether he is a teacher or a student or does not come to their vision. anybody belonging to the Opposition, spoke against this education system. Although When funds under 20 Point Programme nobody favoured it. examinations are being are allocated to various State Governments held in March and April every year under the run by opposition parties. whether it is system. In order to bring about a change in C. P.M. Government in Karala and else- the above system, a new plan of action where or the Janata Government in Karna- concerning the Eduction Policy was taken taka, these Governments draw the money up during the last three years. It was sent to and implement the anti-poverty program- various institutions and State Governments mes in their respective States. In their meet- and their views were obtained in the matter. ings, they make claims to the effect that they Thereafter it was passed by the Parliament did a very good work. In this connection, I and the New Education Policy was intro- would like to point out that had those 30 per duced In the country. 206 Navodaya cent funds not beell allocated by the Centre, Vidyalayas have been opened under the the funds would not have reached them and new system. The variou~ shortcomings they would not have been in a position to the found in the schools of the country have anti-poverty programmes. been removed through "operation black- board-under this system. In this connection, [English] I would like to state that two Navodaya Vldyalayas have been opened in my Parlia- OR. DATTA SAMANT IRnmbav South mentary Constituency. I visited one of these 461 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 8, 1909 (SAKA) on Pr. Addre.s 482

schools on its opening day. I found there a demand. No discrimination has been made poor man dressed in tattered clothes stand- against any State aven if n is ruled by the ing at a distance from his son who had been Opposition. There cannot be a better ex- selected for admission in that school. He ample of political impartiality than this. It is was feeling shy of standing there with the not possible to imagine with urban psych. as fear that anybody could recognise him to be to what type of assistance is baing provided the father of one of the students. It has been to the farmers. Every effort is being made to clearly indicated that 71 per cent of children make the farmers self-reliant, whether he is belonging to rural areas are studying in the a marginal farmer or a small farmer, by Navodaya Vidayalayas. Out of these, 41 per providing them assistance for the purchase cent come from those families who live be- of fertilisers and seeds and by giving subsidy low the poverty line. Could a poor man have for digging wells, getting electricity connec- ever dreamt of his child studying in a public tion, purchasing tractors etc. It is only due to school like the Navodaya Vidyalaya where the policies of this Government that we find children of only rich people undertook their today that large stocks of foodgrains are studies by residing in the hostels? It is Rajiv available for domestic consumption as well Gandhi's Government which brought about as for export. All that I would like to say is that a revolutionary change in the field of educa- the farmers should be provided a little more tion through this education policy ..... assistance because the farmer purchases various commodities from the market at a ( Interruptions) higher price but his foodgrains do not fetch an equally higher price. Hence he finda it Though these people do not realise this difficult to maintain himself and his machin- thing, yet I know very welf that internally they ery such as tractors, etc. It the farmer is have faith in this system. Presently there are provided a little more assistance. it will facili- Governments run by opposition parties in 7- tate him to lead a normal life. Ourfarmers are 8 States. They could have refused the set- very sincere and honest at their work and ting I 'P of Navodaya Vidyalayas in their they put a hard labqur. If they are provided States. They could have refused to draw the facilities, they can double the production of funds meant for 'operation black board'. food-grains thereby making the country in a They draw the funds, set up the institutions position to export. but at the same time also oppo~e them. If they do not oppose, people will wipe out their Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, while political identity ..... (/nterruptions). extending my support to the motion of thanks on the President's Address to both Hoses of This year the country experienced the Parliament, I would like to submit one more most terrible drought of the century. But the point. Presently a limit has been fixed in poor people ~id not feel the impact of the regard to the self-employmf'nt scheme. I drought situation. They have been supplied want th~tthis limit should be raised. There is essential commodities in a proper way and a provision to provide loan assistance to 150 the morale of the farmers has been held to 200 people in each district under this high. The Prime Minister himself visited the scheme. I want that this number should be States and er1qUlred about the difficulties of doubled or increased evan further and the the poor ~eople. He asked the Chief Minis- limit may be done away with. All the eligible ters, particularly, of the Congress ruled people may be provided loans under the States to make proper use of the funds being self-employment scheme so that they may allocated for drought. Each and every State become self-reliant and capable. , must say have been provided the funds as per their that lawyers should aJso be included among 483 Motion of Thanks FEBRUARY 25, 1988 on Pr. Address 464 [Sh. Rameshwar Naakhra] the address is that the President cautioned the people considered eligible under the the nation through its chosen representa- seH-employment scheme. Because, after tives that they should sustain their urge, completing the studies a lawyer intends to interest and concern for the unity and integ- set up his own office and library. He wants to rity of the country. There are elements-you purchase type-writer etc. But those da~'s the refer to them as fundamentalists, chauvin- pricas of these articles have gone up and ists, terrorists and secessionists-and all under 1hese circumstances he cannot main- these elements the President had in view tain his office. If he is provided a sum of Rs and, therefore he cautioned the countrymen 35.000 under the self-employment scheme, that they should be concerned and e\'3r- he can make all these arrangements and alert on the question of unity and integrity of serve the judic:iary in a better way. the country.

With these words, I once again support Then President appreciated the motion of thanks on the· President's Government's efforts directed towards the Address. provision of relief to the drought stricken people in various parts of the country. I have [English] a marginal difference of opinion on this issue because we have a rotten system of public PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): distribution and, therefore, much of the aid Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, there are many and relief does not reach the man who really areas which our esteemed President did not suffers but that is a different issue. The touch in his Address, but I will come to those President deserves thanks that he could feel areas later. Through you, I convey my appre- concerned about the people who suffered ciation and thanks to the esteemed Presi- through this unprecedented drought. dent for the Address to both the House of Parliament. Another point which I want to bring on record is the President's concern for the Shri, I tried to hear the esteemed Presi- emancipation of women. Women in this dent with utmost attention and from the long country are receiving a raw deal and I feel in Address that the President delivered I could my opinion there is urgent need to amend select a couple of things for which he de- the Constitution of India to make a specific serves ;" my opinion our gratefulness and provision not only making women equal to appreciation. He rightly tOI.chad the ques- men in various fields but we have also to tion of terrorism and an atmosphere of vio- commit ourselves to total emancipation of lence in this country. In fact, when we rise in women be it in thefield of economics, politics the morning and touch any newspap~r the or social justice. We saw how Home Minister first thing our eyes catch is the killings of assured this House on the question of an innocent people not only in Punjab but also obnoxious situation that had taken place in in the North-Eastern side of our country. Bihar. I feel Government of Bihar has re- Therefore, the esteemed President ex- ceived the concern of this House through the pressed hIS concern for the growing terror- Home Minister. But the question is whether ism in the country and expressed a desire women will really be emancipated. In my that the people of India should rise against opinion, I don't feel convinced that we have this atmosphere of violence and find a last- a solution available ~ight now. It is for that ing solution to this problem. that I want amendment in the Constitution of India to organise a better deal for woman. In The second thing which I appreciated in this connection, President mentioned about 465 Motion of Thanks PHALGUNA 6, 1909 (SAKA) on Pro Address 488

Sati. He expressed happiness over the law [English] that was enacted in both Houses of Parlia- ment. Now it is an act with us. This obnoxious PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: You will see, drama of immolation in the name of religion I will come to the right conclusion .. But there will be eradicated. These and some other is a dispute and this dispute continues. h is areas received pointed attention of the es- not resolved. I don't raise objection to people teemed President. I fully appreciate this saying it Ram Janambhoomi. But some- Address and I express my gratefulness to where this dispute has to be solved. When the esteemed President through you. Meerut situation cropped up, some people said that it was because of Babri Mosque As I informed this House earlier, there dispute. Maybe it is because of that. But you are so many areas which the President has have to delve deeper. You have to go to the not chosen to discuss in the Address or the root and then you have to solve. You can't President came to touch these areas. But he avoid it. You have not to solve it for the did not get into details. For instance, the election. But you have to solve for the amity esteemed President felt concerned about between Hindus and Muslims. You have to communalism. But he did not delve a little solve it for the communal harmony. That is deeper and enlighten us as to how we can the essence of the teachings of Mahatma eradicate communalism from this country. Gandhi. That is the essence of the teachings We have to be very bold. It may be through of Mahatma Gandhi. That is the essence of the amendment of the Constitution. It may be the whole working of Jawaharlal Nehru's through other laws. It may be by producing philosophy-when he spoke to us-and so an Act by itself. The first condition for eradi- many luminaries. You can't avoid it. You cating communalism is that we have to be have to solve it. If I were to be consulted on very very bold. We have to be above party it, I would say: Give itto the Archives Depart- politics. ment. It will neither belong to Muslims nor to Hindus. But this solution has to come up Now my fnend from that side just before before a forum. Muslim may not agree and me mentioned that dispute, called Sabri the Hindus may not agree but you have to Mosque~Ram Janambhoomi dispute. In my work out a solution where the Muslims and opinion, Mr. Deputy' Speaker, the Babri Hindus accept the solution and resolve it. Mosque is no dispute. It belongs to Muslims. So ... It is historically proved fact. But there is a dispute. I have studied the historically MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can proved fact. But there is a dispute. I have continue tomorrow. Now the House stands studied the Historical documents. The Mus- adjourned to reassemble tomorrow at 11 lims of this country have a rightful claim on A.M. that mosque.

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SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM (Gaya): It The Lok Sabha then Adjoumsd Till would be better if you do not take up this Eleven of the Clock on Friday. February issue. 26, 19881 Pha/guns 7, 1909 (Saka)

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