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Mission expected in April 2012 it is What is the benefit in terms of fare that hoped that the launching of the project proposed BRT system will provide over would be firmly scheduled. existing transport system? The fares are not in terms of the There was another important observation operation of BRT but it will include the with regard to accommodation of a certain non tariff aspects as well and therefore vehicle for e.g. an ambulance or a police the fare would be favorable to the users van in case of emergency. of the system. Such is system is under consideration and it will have to be covered by provisions in the legislation. Participant 2 The enquiry was about the status of the The floor of the platform will be leveled (Student (Female)) BRT vehicles with respect to the capacity, with the carriage of BRT system. Ramps height, volume, safety and security, entry have been provided for disabled. The and exit, problems of disabled and senior carrying capacity of BRT vehicle will be citizens and noise pollution. about 100 persons. Noise will be contained within the corridor. With regard to safety and security it is designed to respond to the needs of the system as per international standards. Participant 3 The observation was that the BRT system The fares structure is being so designed (Social Worker aims at providing the facility to those who that it will cater to the needs of both (Female)) are above poverty line and perhaps does groups of commuters. not address the commuters who cannot afford high bus fares. This was the case when the green buses were introduced. The main counters are those who live below the poverty line and not as much as those who have been able to travel despite the ever increasing fares. Participant 4 The question was regarding the sitting There is a sitting arrangement for 40 (Student (Male)) arrangement, ridership and operation of passenger & 60 standing travelers. The competing buses on Greenline route by ridership is being studied and private owners for e.g. W-11 that operates consultation with stakeholders is in on this corridor. The W-11 owners operate progress. There will be 400 vehicles at least 300 buses and they will be tough operating at a time on this corridor and competitors for BRT. their operation will be staggered between What will be the safety and security peak hours and general requirement. All arrangements on BRT? aspects will be decided in consultation with stakeholders. A command and control system will be established to operate the security system and CCTV cameras would be installed to monitor the activities on the corridors. Law enforcement agencies will be on Appendix 2 – 58 Karachi Transportation Improvement Project Final Report Table 1: Concerns raised by stakeholders in first scoping session at SCOPING STAGE held on 31st Jan 2012 at Taimuria Library - Greenline Corridor Participant Observations, Comments and Response Suggestions ground to manage the security system while community ownership will be an integral part of successful operation of project. Participant 5 The observation was with regard to the We would not like to appease the present (Resident of area) consultation with bus owners who are the system owned by private operators. The main stakeholders and whose clout can system will be left to the commuters to derail any system. It successfully did so in decide as to which system is offering the case of earlier transport system better service. For them the best proposed by CDGK. alternative would be to accept BRT system as a reality in providing service better than what is being offered by private bus owners and then it will be up to bus operators to decide whether they would continue to operate in competition or operate as planned by the feeder system. Participant 6 The observation was that bus operators is a The point is well taken. (Student (Male)) strong lobby and can manipulate several We are alive to situation and that is why systems by brute force. I can only pray for we have a law department which will the success of the system. prepare a legal framework for the Why not introduce a Double Decker Bus institutional operation of BRT system. System so that instead of carrying 100 The legal framework will be enacted by passengers it can carry 200 passengers. the concerned parliament and we hope that the system will operate under legal cover taking due cognizance of the short comings of the past few attempts and the lessons learnt from their failure to achieve the goal. Participant 7 The observation was that the feasibility EMP is essential part of EIA which the (IUCN report of JICA if and when it is prepared Consultant (EMC) is preparing in Representative) should become a public document so that collaboration with JICA study team. We all stakeholders can express their opinion propose to submit an EMP based on for the project. ground reality. The presentation made here on project seems short of provision for EMP which should be part of EIA. IUCN has undertaken a project for sustainable transport system of Country especially Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar and Islamabad and where we would be only too happy to help this project in any respect that they spell out. Participant 8 The observation was that instead of going BRT system has proven as most efficient (Student (Male)) for the BRT why not remove deficiencies in almost 136 countries of world and we of present system through efficient traffic are hoping that it will completely reverse management and due implementations of the present situation once it is allowed to the rules of business, while making the bus operate in letter and spirit. The chances operators observe the Standard Operating of accidents with any other vehicle are Procedures (SOPs). almost negligible since it will operate on Appendix 2 – 59 Karachi Transportation Improvement Project Final Report Table 1: Concerns raised by stakeholders in first scoping session at SCOPING STAGE held on 31st Jan 2012 at Taimuria Library - Greenline Corridor Participant Observations, Comments and Response Suggestions a dedicated lane, likewise it is hoped that dedicated lane will provide a sufficiently secured system. However an accident with a different vehicle can’t be ruled out and that will be duly considered in feasibility study. Participant 9 We accept that the project is worth The point is well taken. The stations and (SP (Police supporting and we will provide any support their establishment is still at design stage Department)) in terms of implementation and governance but you will be an active participant in of regulations that may be passed by the decision making with regard to siting parliament. of station. The stations to be established at 5 Star intersection and Nazimabad intersection will not pose any problem. However, it is difficult to visualize stations between old Numaish and Aurangzeb Park since the two sides offer very little space. Participant 10 The observation was with regard to space It should be at least a 4 lanes roadway to (EPA Sindh) requirement. What is the required capacity accommodate the BRT lane. In case the of the road to accommodate a BRT road way does not have as much lanes system? the BRT would be elevated. Table 2: Concerns raised by stakeholders in second scoping session at SCOPING STAGE held on 08th Feb 2012 at NED University - Redline Corridor Participant Observations, Comments and Response Suggestions Participant 1 Segregation of Modes of Traffic Concrete Jersey barrier is being proposed (S.P (Police Provision of permanent fencing wall along the RoW for protection. Permanent Department)) Interference of smaller vehicles like fencing is not possible. Motor-cycles and Rickshaws with Lack of awareness at highest level proposed BRT to protect the dedicated including the drivers and parents is the Right of Way from violence/terrorist main cause. The parents and their drivers activities. deliberately avoid following the rules. Car divers and bus owners do not respect The law enforcing agencies are in many law and violate traffic rules and cases helpless because of the pressure regulations.