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Der Vil Altid Være Brug For, at Vi Underholder TEMA: ANIMATION • ~ ’ *88SS»t « »Der vil altid være brug for, at vi underholder Jørgen Klubien har i næsten tyve år levet som en menne­ firmaet Skellington Productions (skaber af The Nightmare Before skelig boomerang, der flyver frem og tilbage over Atlanter­ Christmas samt James and the Giant havet for at holde gang i to karrierer: Som musiker og som Peach), derefter på computeranima- filmmager I dette interview fortæller han Nicolas Barbano tions-firmaet Pixar Animation Stud- ios (skaber af Toy Story). om en række a f sine seneste filmprojekter, bl.a. eventyr­ Også filmmogulen George Lucas filmen 'James and the Giant P eachog sætter samtidigt bor i området. Både hans hjem og hans special effects-firma ILM lig­ den amerikanske animationsindustri i perspektiv. ger i nabobyen San Rafael. Det var Lucas, der via ILM skabte Pixar, og derfor ligger det her i Richmond, ikke ret langt fra Lucas. Og forøvrigt heller ikke ret langt fra fængslet San Quentin, hvor man stadigvæk ud­ fører dødsstraffe. Lige det modsatte af Jørgen Klubiens fag, der handler og at animereFat gøre døde ting le­ vende! Mange herhjemme kender Jørgen Klubien bedst som musiker. Han lagde ud som trommerslager i The Pack, plus at han med benet i gips sang Kasper Windings ”En tragisk komedie” i Dansk Melodi Grand Prix 1982 og Carsten Elmers "Ma­ rie” året efter. Siden 1984 har han været forsan­ ger og teksforfatter i Danseorkestre­ ret, der har stået for hits som "Regndans”, "Korn tilbage nu”, ”Vi ses igen” og "Satellit”. Den seneste CD, fra 1995, hedder "Jagten på Jørgen Klubien og Nicolas Barbano mødes den store kærlighed”. Og han har in­ over en kop the og en båndoptager på en gen planer om at opgive musikken cafe i Richmond, hvor George Lucas i af Nicolas BarbaUO til fordel for filmkarrieren, skønt 1972 filmede ‘American Graffiti’ (foto: han stort set lever af filmjobbet. Erik Hansen). Jørgen Klubien fik sin uddannelse som grafiker på Glyptotekets Teg­ neskole og Skolen for Brugskunst. MA Ile filmstudier i Hollywood er krydret med Hollywood-udtryk Under en ferietur til Amerika tog ,/j.essentially helt vilde med som ”deal”, ”spin-off”, ”franchise”, han kontakt med Walt Disney Pro­ tegnefilm. Det skyldes, at disse film "greenlighting” og "stockholder”. ductions, som gav ham en videre har så mange spin-off muligheder, Plus, at alting er "essentially” det tegneuddannelse på det californiske såsom CD-Rom, video, tv-serier, ene eller det andet. kunstinstitut Cal Arts, kulmine­ t-shirts osv. Men jeg tror også, at H an bor for tiden i Richmond, rende med tegnefilmlektioner på mennesker får afsmag for alt for m e ­ der ligger en times kørsel nord for selve Disney-studierne. Han blev i get af det dér pakketings-halløj. Jeg San Francisco. Mange enlige, danske 1979 Disney-studiernes første fa­ har i hvert fald selv afsmag for det. mænd emigrerede til Richmond i stansatte dansker! Det er jo ikke dér, det kreative lig­ 1800-tallet, under The Gold Rush, Hos Disney arbejdede han som ger, det er bare - franchise, ikke? så stedet er i dag nærmest en dansk ”in-betweener” på spillefilmen The Det er bare forretning!” koloni. Men Jørgen Klubien er nu Fox and the Hound (1981), og 37-årige Jørgen Klubien snakker kommet hertil for at lave animati­ mødte unge animatorer som Tim et veloplagt, sprudlende dansk, onsfilm, oprindeligt på stopmotion- Burton, Henry Selick og Jeffrey Va- 26 berg-produktio- - Er Skellington ejet af Disney, nen An American eller hvordan? Tail (1986). Men - Skellington Productions er et han brød sig ikke selvstændigt firma, men det er Dis- om ledelsen: "De ney-betalt. Det er samme ordning, er fuldstændigt som Disney har med Pixar. Disney sindssygel” råber har mange penge, men de kan godt han og knalder se, at der også bliver lavet nogle næven i bordet, ting, som tjener penge, uden for de­ når emnet kom­ res eget kreative virke. Disney købte mer på bane. fx filmselskabet Miramax, fordi A Klubien Room with a View (1985) og deres vendte derfor til­ andre Merchant-Ivory-film havde et bage til Disney, meget lukrativt publikum, som Dis­ dennegang som ney egentlig ikke rigtig forstod - rigtig animator, men de kunne godt se, at Miramax og arbejdede på havde noget kørende dér. Så de The Little Merm- købte Miramax og lavede en deal, aid (1989) samt som sagde: Disney har ingen indfly­ The Rescuers delse på, hvad Miramax laver, blot Down Under de holder budgetterne under 25 (1990). I 1990 mio. dollars. Det er Miramax, som var Danmarks har lavet en deal med Ole Bornedal Radios program­ (om den amerikanske genindspil­ chef Mogens ning af Nattevagten), så sådan set ar­ Vemmer i USA, bejder også han for Mickey Mouse mødte Jørgen nu. Og det er Miramax, der har la­ Klubien og fik vet en deal med Skellington Produ­ Jørgen Klubien sammen med de øtnige ham atter til Danmark for at skabe ctions. Det vil sige, at det er stadig­ medlemmer a f Danseorkesteret (foto: Me- en ny, dansk B&U-tegnefilmserie a væk Disneypenge, men de går gen­ tronome-Replay). la Cirkeline. nem Miramax. Pixars deal med Dis­ Resultatet blev Thomas og Tim, ney går ud på, at når Pixar har leve­ som Klubien baserede på sine ne­ ret tre film, kan de gå til nogle an­ rab, der senere skulle blive instruk­ vøer af samme navn. Men han løb dre, eller de kan lave en ny deal med tører på deres egne projekter. Og sur i det og fik lov at gå i utide, mod Disney. han fik helte som Bill Peet og Carl at han frasagde sig rettighederne. - Hvad lavede du på The Night­ Barks, legendariske skikkelser fra det Projektet blev færdiglavet af Søren mare Before Chnstmas? tidligere personale i story-afdelin­ Tomas som en serie på seksten 10- - Jeg var oprindeligt ansat til at gen. Disney-studiet indefra var minutters-afsnit (vist i 1993-94), og animere Jack Skellingtons hund, imidlertid en desillusionerende op­ blev en pæn succes, solgt til flere Zero. Vi havde tænkt os, at den levelse for alle de unge, der arbej­ lande. skulle være tegnet, men så lavede vi dede der i den periode, så Klubien Jørgen Klubien rejste atter til det om. Så sagde Henry: ”Du er på vendte retur til Danmark i 1980, USA, og fik job på stopmotion-fil- det dér med at få Jack Skellingtons sammen med Jeffrey Varab. men The Nightmare Before Christ- ansigt læbesynkront!” Jeg sad så Varab, Klubien og sidstnævntes mas (1993), instrueret af Henry Sel- sammen med (model shop supervi­ skolekammerat Jakob Stegelmann ick og produceret af Tim Burton. sor) Mitch Romanauski og modelle­ startede nu et tegnefilmstudie i en rede Jack Skellingtons ansigter til at kælderbutik i Skindergade. Studiet være læbesynkrone. Men jeg endte hed Klubien & Varab, og dannede Græskarmænd og med at storyboarde. grobund for den generation af dan­ kæmpeferskner - Er der forskel på at lave munde ske tegnefilmfolk, der har lavet fil­ - Hvordan kom du til at arbejde for til en person, der synger, og til en, mene Valhalla (1986) og Jungledyret Henry Selick på Skellington Produ- der siger dialog? (1993), og i dag danner rygraden i ctions? - Ja, vi lavede et helt sæt hoveder Danmarks vigtigste animations­ - The Nigh tmare Before Christmas med neutralt ansigtsudtryk, og firma, A-Film. var både et Tim Burton-projekt og munde der passede til. Så lavede vi Klubien var i starten med til at et Disney-projekt, men Disney ville et sæt, hvor han var gal, hvor øjen­ lave animation til Kaptajn Klyde og ikke sende deres fastansatte tegnere brynene er mere på dén måde. Så la­ hans venner vender tilbage (1980), op nordpå til Richmond. Så de rin­ vede vi et, hvor han er mere glad og Gummi Tarzan (1981), Pelle Haleløs gede til mig i Danmark og sagde: smilende. Og så lavede vi et sæt eks­ (1981) og Otto er et næsehorn "Hvis du nu springer på den film treme udtryk, med overraskelses-re­ (1983), plus signaturer til Stegel- deroppe, så giver vi dig det grønne aktioner og sådan noget. Der var manns tv-serier Så er der tegnefilm kort!” (en særlig arbejdstilladelse) over 150 forskellige hoveder til den (brugt 1980-81) og Så er der forfilm Plus, at jeg kendte Tim Burton og figur, som hver animator havde lig­ (1 9 8 2 ) . Henry Selick både fra studiet og fra gende! De blev så via en computer Så drog han atter til USA og ar­ skolen. Så tingene passede meget synkroniseret med dialogen, sådan bejdede for Don Bluth på Spiel- godt sammen. at animatoren bare skulle kigge på 27 sin liste og se, at: "Nu skal jeg bruge hoved nr. 66A, så putter jeg det på!” For det var regnet ud forinden. Så kunne han ellers koncentrere om at flytte figuren, animere blinkende øjne og sådan noget. - Er der forskel på, hvordan mun­ den bevæger sig, når det er Chris Sarandons dialog man hører, og når det er Danny Elfmans sange? - Nej. Først ville Danny Elfman jo være stemmen til Jack. Han ville være skuespilleren gennem hele fil­ men. Vi lavede nogle tests med ham, og han var helt elendig, så det fik vi ham overtalt til ikke at gøre. Danny Elfman er en kæmpe ego­ tripper. Han var svær at arbejde med på den måde, at hans sange, dem skulle vi ikke lave om på, du ved, det var bare helligt. Tim er vild er sådan meget eksperimenterende, Lock, Stock &c, Barrel drager ud for at kid­ med Danny Elfman, og det var me­ men han har egentlig ikke særlig nappe Sandy Claws, en sekvens storyhoar- get Tim og Danny, der skabte den meget sans for fortællingen og hu­ ded a f Jørgen Klubien til ‘The Nightmare film, med alle dens problemer.
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