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Title: Regarding increase in the electricity charges in Andhra Pradesh. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (MIRYALGUDA): Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you very much. I wish to bring certain things to the notice of the entire House through you. Today, Andhra Pradesh is witnessing a sad and shocking spectacle. More than 90 MLAs have gone on an indefinite fast. ...(Interruptions) The health condition of some of the MLAs is not good. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Nothing should go on record except Shri Jaipal Reddy's speech. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: No, no; I have allowed Shri Jaipal Reddy. ...(Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : The point I am making, is that this is the culmination of three month old agitation in which millions of people of Andhra Pradesh participated and yet, the Government of Andhra Pradesh has been displaying monumental insensitivity and dictatorial obstinacy in the matter. SHRI PRAMOD MAHAJAN: We are encroaching on the rights of the State Assembly. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaipal Reddy, this is a State subject. The Assembly is also in session. ...(Interruptions) SHRI K. YERRANNAIDU (SRIKAKULAM): Sir, the Congress Party is playing double standards in this country....(Interruptions) Please listen to me, Sir. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Let them be given an opportunity of responding to me....(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I am appealing to you. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: If you want to put forward anything, I will allow you after him. Now, I have allowed Shri S. Jaipal Reddy. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Not now, please. Shri Yerrannaidu, you can speak later on. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Member, please take your seats. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaipal Reddy, please understand it. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaipal Reddy, you are a senior parliamentarian. Please understand that this is entirely a State matter. The State Assembly is also in Session, how can we discuss the State matter here? You please tell me first. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: If you want to discuss everything in the Lok Sabha, what will be the contribution of State Assembly? Please understand this. ...(Interruptions) SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA (GUNA): Sir, this is an unprecedented case. Sir, never in the history of this country, 95 Members of a Legislative Assembly have gone on hunger strike...(Interruptions) The condition of a Member is very serious and he has to be admitted to the hospital...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I am asking a question to Shri S. Jaipal Reddy, under what rule can you discuss a matter relating to a State Assembly in the Lok Sabha? ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seats. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please tell me the rule first. ...(Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, here the Central Government is involved and secondly the price of electricity has been increased...(Interruptions) SHRI K. YERRANNAIDU : Sir, they have no right to say this in the House. They themselves initiated reforms. They should appreciate first...(Interruptions) They are playing double standards. They are initiating reforms in Orissa and Rajasthan and here they are questioning Andhra Pradesh...(Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, you asked me a question, let me answer them...( Interruptions) Sir, the Central Government is involved in this case...(Interruptions) SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : Sir, you have called his name, let he be allowed to speak...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I called his name but I asked him a question, under what rule can he raise this matter in the House. ...(Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, I am replying to that only. The Central Government has cleared a loan for the Andhra Pradesh Government, thereby the Central Government is involved in this...(Interruptions) Secondly, the Central Electricity Authority have cleared the power project and thus involved in it...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Yerrannaidu, please understand, if you want to speak you can speak later. Please take your seat. ...(Interruptions) SHRI K. YERRANNAIDU : Sir, I would like to know under what rule he can raise a State matter in the House...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Yerrannaidu, I have also put the same question to him. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please understand, what message are we sending to the State Assembly? This is a matter relating to a State. ...(Interruptions) SHRIMATI RENUKA CHOWDHURY (KHAMMAM): Sir, some people have been beaten by the police there...(Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, the Central Government is involved, the Central Electricity Authority is involved...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Nothing should go on record. (Interruptions) … * MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please take your seats. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seats. ...(Interruptions) 1216 hours (At this stage, Shrimati Renuka Chowdhury and some other hon. Members came and stood on the floor near the Table.) MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record. (Interruptions) …* +ÉÉvvªªÉÉFÉÉ ààÉÉcÉÉänä ªªÉÉ : ]äãÉÉÒBÉEÉìº] BÉEÉä ¤ÉÆn BÉE® nÉÒÉÊVÉA* ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please go back to your seats. This is not the way. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I have permitted Shri Jaipal Reddy and heard him also. Please go back to your seats. ...(Interruptions) 1218 hours (At this stage, Shrimati Renuka Chowdhury and some other hon. Members went back to their seats.) MR. SPEAKER: I am appealing to all the hon. Members to go back to their seats. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record. (Interruptions) … * MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaipal Reddy, please hear me. ...(Interruptions) * Not Recorded MR. SPEAKER: Shri Raghunath Jha, please take your seat. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri M.V.V.S. Murthi, please take your seat. I am on my legs. Please take your seat. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaipal Reddy, are we to discuss the State matter in the House? Please hear me first. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: The national issues have to be discussed in the Parliament. How can we discuss the State matter in this House? Under what provision and under what rule, can you raise this matter here? That too, when the Assembly is in Session, how can you raise this matter here? What signal are you going to send to the Assembly? ...(Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, you have raised a question and I have not given the answer. ...(Interruptions) Mr. Speaker, the State Government entered into a clandestine agreement with the World Bank through the good office of the Central Government. The situation has also been aggravated on account of the over invoice projects which were cleared by the Central Electricity Authority....(Interruptions) SHRI K. YERRANNAIDU: I am asking the Congress Party. What is their policy? ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please conclude. ...(Interruptions) SHRI K. YERRANNAIDU :They are talking of Andhra Pradesh. They are a national Party. They should have one policy. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Yerrannaidu, please sit down. I will give you a chance after he has spoken, and not now. ...(Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : I am not being allowed to answer. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaipal Reddy, please conclude. There are other matters also. ...(Interruptions) SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHI (VISAKHAPATNAM): He should not raise that matter. How can he raise it?...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shrimati Renuka Chowdhury, this is too much. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Mr. Speaker, Sir, the State Government has entered into a clandestine agreement with the World Bank through the good office of the Central Government. Secondly, a part of the problem is because the Central Electricity Authority of India has cleared the project cost of many Independent Power Producers....(Interruptions) Therefore, the Central Government is fully involved in the matter. We are not opposing the reforms per se....(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: How can you discuss the matter which took place long back? It was a decision taken by the State and Central Governments long back. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : I know. But the problem is coming because of that. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: You are a senior Member. You have to address the Chair. You please address the Chair. Under what rule, can we discuss this matter? That is a decision which was taken long back. How can we discuss this matter? ...(Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Any decision of Government of India should be examined and scrutinised by Parliament. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Nothing should go on record except the submission of Shri Jaipal Reddy. (Interruptions) … * SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY :Any decision of the Government of India or any action of the institutions of the Government of India should be scrutinised by Parliament. The House should not be indifferent to the situation in Andhra Pradesh. The situation in Andhra Pradesh is very, very serious. It calls for the intervention by the House....(Interruptions) * Not recorded MR. SPEAKER: There are other matters also. Please conclude. Now, Shri Yerrannaidu. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Yerrannaidu, please wait for a minute. ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaipal Reddy, please finish your speech. SHRIMATI RENUKA CHOWDHURY : He may be allowed to complete his speech. MR. SPEAKER: Madam, you should not dictate the Chair as to how to run the House. You are giving a direction. It is too much. You are giving a direction to the Chair. You are not supposed to give a direction to the Speaker. What is this? ...(Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : So, the Government of India cannot remain unconcerned, nor can Parliament of India be a mute spectator. At any rate, all these things are covered by the Central Electricity Act....(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaipal Reddy, please conclude. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : They are also standing on their legs. Will you kindly ask them to resume their seats? ...(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please complete. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Sir, today in Andhra Pradesh, there is a very astonishing thing taking place. Today, the situation is very grim in Andhra Pradesh. MR. SPEAKER: You have already raised the matter.