Eightb Serin, Vol. XLIX, No. 40 Tuesday, May 2, 1989 Va.isakha 12, 1911 (Saka)

LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

Thirteenth Sessien (Eighth Lok Sabha)

{ Vol· XLIX coatains Nos. 31 to 40)

LOK SABHA SECJl.ETARIA'I NEW DELW Prlc� I RI. 6.00 CONTENTS

[Eighth Series, Vol. XLIX, Thirteenth Session, 198911911 (Saka)]

No. 40, Tuesday, tvlay 2, 1989Naisakha 12,1911 (Saka)

COLUMNS

Oral Answers to Questions: 1-32

• Starred Questions Nos. 800, 802, 805 808, 810,816 and 818

Written Answers to Questions: 33-393

Starred Questions Nos. 801,803,806,807 33-43 809,811, 813,815, 817 and 819

Unstarred Questions Nos. 7595 to n94 43-385

lapers Laid on the Table 393-399 t:lules Committee 399

Second Report - Laid

Committee on Petitions 400

Eighth Report - Presented

)emands for Excess Grants (Genl:.tral). 1986-87 - Presented 400

Statement

JnJon Duties of Excise (Distribution) Amendment Bill - Introduced 400-401

dditional Duties of Excise (Goods of Spec;allmportance) 401 mendment Bill - Introduced

nerallnsurance Business (Nationalisation) 401-402 ,endment Bill - Introduced

0onstitution (Sixty-third Amendment) BilU-lntlOduced 402

• The Sign t marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii) COLUMNS

Matters Under Rule 377 403-407

(i) Need to set up an ICAR Unit and a laboratory at 403 Government Agriculture Farm at Tinpirudi in Alwar district of Rajasthan

Shri Ram Singh Yadav

(ii) Need to instal electronic telephone exchange at 403-404 Faizabad and Rudoli in Barabanki (UP)

Shri Nirmal Khattri

(iii) Need to implement the recommendations of the High 404--405 Powered Pay Committee for the staff/officers of Public Undertakings without any further delay

Shri Harish Rawat

(iv) Need to ensure timely and full compensation to farmers 405-406 whose lands are acquired by the Government in Delhi

Shri Bharat Singh

(v) Need to allow villagers to have transactions with banks 406-407 of their choice

Shri K. Ramchandra Reddy

(vi) Need to increase the export quota of cotton for 407

Shri Uttam Rathod

Finance Bill, 1989 407-521

Motion to consider

Shri Chintamani Jena 408-413

Sh, i Ram Pyare Panika 413-417

Shri Murli Oeora 417-423

Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer 423-425

Shri K.P. Singh Deo 425-434

Shri V.S. Vijayaraghavan 434-438

Shri Harish Rawat 439-443 (iii)

CoLUMNS

Shri Syed Shahabuddin 443--450

Shri Narain Chand Parashar 450-457

Shri K. Pradhani 457-460

Shri Nityananda Misra 460-463

Shri Kamodilal Jatav 463--466

Shri Chandra Shekhar Tripathi 466-470

Shri Bhadreswar Tantl 470-475

Shri N.G. Ranga 475-483

Shrimati Prabhawati Gupta 484-490

Shri S.B. Chavan 490-516

Clauses 2 to 51 and 1 516-521

Motion to Pass

Shri S.B. Chavan 517-521

Discussion Under Rule 193 522-540

Communal situation in various parts of the country 522-524

Dr. G.Vijaya Rama Rao 524-528

Shri Banwari Lal Purohit 528-530

Shri G.M. Banatwafla 534-540

LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA available to the different power grids by the super thermal power stations in the country?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Tuesday, May 2, 19891Vaisakha 12, 1911 DE~ARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- (Saka) TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): (a) to (e). A Statement is given below:

STATEMENT The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock (a) The requisite details are given in [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chail1 Annexure-I. below.

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (b) The National Thermal Power Cor- poration have formulated proposals for the [English] setting up of an additional 500 MW unit at the Farakka Super Thermal Power Station and Super Thermal Power Stations two additional units of 500 MW each at the Rihand and Vindhyachal Super Thermal *800 SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: Will Power Stations. the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) Yes, Sir. (a) the production capacity of various super thermal power stations and their loca- (d) The requisite details are given in tion; Annexure-II below.

(b) the details of programme for expan- (e) During the year 1988-S9, the NTPC sion of production capacity of these power supplied 11507 million units (MUs) of power stations; to the Northern regional grid from the Sin- grauli and Aihand Super Thermal Power (c) whether there is any proposal to set Stations, 8026 MUs to the Western regional up new super thermal power stations in near grid from the Korba and Vindhyachal Super future; Thermal Power Stations; 4783 MUs to the Southern regional grid from the Ramagun- (d) if so, the details thereof; and dam Super Thermal Power Station and 1314 ~Us to the Eastern regional grid from the (e) the details of power being made ~ ~rakka Super Thermal Power Station. ANNEXURE-I

Details of the various Thermal Power Stations of the National Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC)

Name (Approved Capacity) Location Installed capacity as on 31.3.1989 (MW)

(i) Singrauli Super Thermal Mirzapur district in 2000 Power Station (STPS) Uttar Pradesh (2000 MW) 3 Oral Answers MAY 2.1989 Oral Answers 4

Name (Approved Capacity) Location Installed capacity as on 31.3.1989 (MW)

(ii) Korba STPS (2100 MW) Bilaspur district in 2100 Madhya Pradesh

(iii) Ramagundam STPS Karimnagar district 1600 (.2100 MW) in

(iv) Farakka STPS (1600 MW) Murshidabad district 600 in West Bengal

(v) Vindhyachal STPS (1260 MW) Sidhi district in 630 Madhya Pradesh

(vi) Rihand STPS (1000 MW) Mirzapur district in 500 Uttar Pradesh

(vii) Kahalgaon STPS (840 MW) Bhagalpur district in Bihar

(viii) National Capital Thermal Ghaziabad district Power Station (840 MW) in Uttar Pradesh

(ix) Talcher STPS (1000 MW) Dhenkanal district in Orissa

Total 7430

ANNEXURE-II

Feasibility Reports for new thermal power projects (excluding expansion projects) formu- lated by the NTPC

SI.No. Name Location Capacity (MW)

(i) Yamunanagar Thermal Power Station Ambala district in 840 Haryana

(ii) Kayamkulam STPS Stage-I Alleppey district 420 in Kerala

(iii) Mangalore STPS Stage-I Dakshina Kannara 420 district in

(iv) North Karanpura STPS Stage-I Ranchi district in Bihar 1000

(v) Chandrapur STPS Stage-I Chandrapur district in 1000 Maharashtra

(vi) Manuguru STPS Stage-I Khammam district in 1000 Andhra Pradesh 5 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6

[ Translation] Government has contributed 62.2 P.L.F. for increasing powergeneration, which is higher SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: Mr. Dep- than the national average, is the Govern- uty Speaker, Sir, the reply given by the hone ment going to set up new super thermal Minister meets my expectations. Sir, its power stations in the near future for the all productio~ capacity is constantly increasing. round development of the country? What are Recently, I had an occasion to hear the the details of the scheme and by how much Minister of Energy Shri Sathe who said that will the capacity be increased? Further, what despite availability of generation capacity, would be the extent of expansion and what we have not been able to achieve the targets are the details of the new schemes? because the demand was low. But my sub- mission is that one of the causes behind the SHRt KAlPNATH RAt: Mr. Deputy shortage of power is that our State Govern- Speaker, Sir, thermal power stations with a ments are not in a position to supply power capacity of 840 megawatts in Yamunan- to the NTPC or the hydro-electricity boards agar, Haryana, 420 megawatts in in accordance with their generation capaci- Kayamkulam. Stage I (Kerala) (to be raised ties. Consequently, the work assigned to to to 2700 megawatts), 420 megawatts in NTPC is not fulfilled. I would like to know Mengalore, Karnataka (to be raised to 2400 from the hone Minister whether the Govern- MW). 1000 megawatts in North Karnpura, ment will amend the Electricity Act of 1948 Bihar, (to be raised to 3000 MW), 1000 especially with regard to tribal and backward megawatts in Chandrapur, Maharashtra, (to areas, so that the Central Government may be raised to 2000 MW), 1000 megawatts in have sufficient power to supply electricity Manuguru, Andhra Pradesh (to be raised by direct to the consumer and achieve the NTPC 1000 MW later) are being set up. With the targe16 in case any State Government re- commissioning of these STP stations, it is fuses to provide it? As the position stands, hoped that the problem of power will be we are short of power despite the fact that we solved. have the capacity to remove this shortage, but this capacity is not being utilised be- [English] cause, at times, the State Governments do not generate power and sometimes there is SHRI ANANDA GAJAPATHI RAJU: In some hinderance in the transmission line. South India particularly, there isgreaterhydel- power rather than thermal power and that is SHAI KALPNATH AAI: The suggestion why there is imbalance between demand given by Shri Panika is under consideration and supply. Recently a question came up in with the Government. this House which related to increase in megawatts and it stated that Andhra Pradesh SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: Sir, its should be given only 1,200 extra megawatts being merely under consideration will not do. during the Eighth Five Year Plan. Would this Keeping in view the results of last year, will figure be increased to at least 3,000 MW or the Government bring an amendment to the more because the demand is increasing Act at the earliest and, if possible, in the very tremendously and more thermal power sta- next session? This is what I would, like to tions are being set up in Andhra Pradesh? know. NTPC has achieved the targets set by the Government in almost all the places. My SHRI KALPNATH RAI: Sir, as the hon. submission is that viewing the present short- Member has asked this question, I would like age and especially in view of the fact that to say that it is up to the State Government to electricity boards in our country are unable to bring projects for power generation. But the increase the generation capacity·the case of Central Government is doing its best to in- West Bengal is before us and they have crease power generation in the country. been unable to increase it in spite of their Recently, in the biggest Thermal Power best efforts whereas the Uttar Pradesh Station at Ramagundam 500 MW Unit-has 7 Oral AnsW91S MAV2,1989 Oral AnSW9rs 8 been synchronised. Then, the Manuguru (b) Hso, whether surplus alcohol can be Super Thermal Power Station is under con- used with petrol as was being done in India sideration. The Central Electricity Authority during World War II and is now routinely has to give the clearance. P IB has to give the done in many countries without any changes clearance. The Planning Commission has to needed in petrol engines? give the approval. The coal linkage has to be established. After these projects come up, THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI we shall be in a position to give more power J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). A Statement to Andhra Pradesh and the southern area. is given below.

SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Sir. I would STATEMENT like to know from the hone Minister whether the National Grid is supplying power to the (a) Yes, Sir. Some surplus quantities energy deficit States whenever they require available with the distrillers are being ex- and if so what is the procedure followed in ported. this regard. Besides. I would also like to know whether the State of Orissa is reeling (b) Aloohol was used in admixture with under acute shortage of power because of petrol in India during World War II when the which more than 8 hours power-cuts are country was short of petrol. Ministry of Petro- imposed now. Has the State Government of leum does not consider it necessary to per- Orissa requested the Centre to supply 15 per mit mixing of alcohol with petrol at present. cent of the reserved power with the Centre Alcohol is an important raw material and is through the National Grid as is supplied to being used for the manufacture of value Kerala and Karnataka States? What is the added chemicals. It is being exported when reaction of the Government of India on this surplus to the needs of the country. issue to overcome the acute shortage of power of Orissa State? DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: Sir, the hon. Minister in his statement has stated that SHRI KALPNATH RAI: The question of Alcohol is an important raw material and is setting up of a National Grid is under consid- being used for the manufacture of value- eration of the Central Government. The added chemicals in our country. He has also Central Government is also thinking of hav- stated that some surplus quantities available ing a Transmission Corporation. There is with the distillers are being exported. So. in shortage of power in Orissa. For meeting the this connection. I would like to know from the requirement of Orissa. the Central Govern- hone Minister the amount of alcohol available ment has sanctioned 3000 MW (uJtimate) in this country and whether the value-added Thermal Power Station at T alcher and the chemical industry people are getting full quota Prime Minister is going to lay the foundation- of alcohol for their use. I also want to know stone on 15th May in Orissa. After the com- from the han. Minister the amount of foreign pletion of this project. the power shortage exchange we get by way of exporting alco- problem of Orissa will be solved. hol. Is it equivalent to the amount of foreign exchange we lose by way of importing the Use of Alcohol with Petrol petroleum from foreign countries?

SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: Sir, the hon. *802 DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO: Will Member has asked two questions. One the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to question relates to import of petroleum. We state: are not importing petroleum. This question was already answered by the Minister of (a) whether there is an alcohol surplus Petroleum vide Starred Question No. 171 leading to exports and also causing problem dated 22nd November, 1988. wherein he for distillers; and had stated: 9 Oral AnswBrs VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Oral AnswBrs 10

HAt present the production of petrol [ Translation] in the country is sufficient to meet the requirement. As such, there is SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH: Mr. no scheme under consideration to Deputy Speaker, Sir, the reply given by the use alcohol in petrol as automotive han. Minister is not convincing, at least to fuel in the vehicles... " me, because the sugarcane production is increasing rapidly in the whole country and This is the answer that was given by the keeping in view the demand of all the farm- Minister of Petroleum. ers, the Government is setting up sugar factories at places of its production. In the Regarding production of alcohol, we are chain of these factories, other factories in surplus now. We are meeting the domestic manufacturing alcohol are also coming up requirements. We are also exporting it to no matter whether they manufacture indus- other countries. Actually, the export up to trial alcohol or liquor. This is causing an March, 1989 has been 223.60 lakh litres adverse affect on public health and people at earning Cl foreign exchange of Rs. 8.21 crores. many places are dying by consuming indus- The total foreign exchange earning from the trial alcohol. Moreover, the drinking habit is allowed quantity of 1200 lakh litres is esti· also increasing. The Uttar Pradesh Govern- mated at Rs. 50 crores. This year, the crush- ment was requested a number of times that ing season is very good. We will earn more instead of alcohol ad liquor, petro-chemicals foreign exchange as we have got plenty of should be manufactured by importing new alcohol. We are giving more letters of In- technique, which could be used for running tents to the alcohol based industries to use automobiles. Will the hon. Minister apprise the excess alcohol in our country and export the House of his views on the matter? the chemicals to other countries. [English] DR. G. VIJAYA RAM A RAO: The Min- ister has stated in his reply that we have SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: We are using plenty of alcohol whereas the petrol js not a this alcohol for chemical purposes. There renewable source. Moreover, the main raw are Members from Andhra Pradesh. We material for alcohol is sugarcane. It is abun- asked the Andhra Pradesh Government dantly grown in our rural India. In order to about this. But they are not willing to give this exploit the alcohol and in order to pay the alcohol to the chemical industries. They are remunerative price to the farmers in future, getting a revenue of As. 600 crores from this whether the Minister will come up with a new liquor business which is the highest in the technology to utilise this alcohol for automo- whole of the country (Interruptions) bile industry. [ Translation] SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: He is putting a question which relates to half a century back ( Interruptions) position, the Second World War period because atthattime, he was not born. (Inter- [Eng/ish] ruptions) SHAI BHANU PRATAP SINGH: The MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: That is why, reply is not in accordance with the question he is interested to know about it. asked.

SHAI J. VENGAL RAO: At that time, the MR. DEPUTY.. SPEAKER: Please charcoal was also used for running the buses. answer to the question put by Shri Bhanu Those days were the olden days and he was Pratap Singh. not born at that time. He is a young man. ( Interruptions) SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: There is a 11 Oral Answers MAY 2,1989 Oral Answ91S 12 surplus of molassds and alcohol. Now we (a) whether the programme for the are exporting molasses and alcohol c:nd we introdudion of Store and Forward Telegraph are earning foreign exchange. System (SFT) has made any headway in North-Western States of Himachal Pradesh, DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI: Punjab, Haryana, Jammu and Kashmir and It has been established by several advanced Chandigarh; countries of the world including Brazil and they have been using alcohol mixing with (b) if so, the names of the centres in petrol. They claim that the pollutant ingredia each one of these States where it has been ents of petrol have been reduced by mixing introduced along with the date of introduction it with petrol. and the number of Telegraph Offices linked to these main centres in each State; In our country we have been guessing every year whether the distilleries are going to be (c) the programme for introduction of closed down because there is no demand to the system in the final year of the Seventh lift their produce by the Government: This is Plan and the places in each ·one of these particularly so in Uttar Pradesh. On the one States where it would be introduced/extended hand there is a surplus production of alcohol during this year; and in our country; but on the other hand we are purchasing petrol and petroleum products (d) the advantages of the SFT system from abroad by investing huge amounts of as compared to the traditional Morse Code foreign exchange. Therefore I don't find any System? relevance in the argument that alcohol which is abundantly available in our country will not THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be mixed with petrol, particularly keeping in MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI view the reduction of the incidence of pollu- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (d). A state- tion. ment is given below.

SHRIJ. VENGALA RAO: There are two STATEMENT supplementaries. One is about mixing alco- hol with petrol and another is that in Uttar Store and Forward Telegraph Systems Pradesh they are not lifting the alcohol. The have been commissioned during 1988-89 at first one has been answered by the Petro- Ambala and Chandigarh. Equipments have leum Minister. In November 1988 he men- been received at Shimla and Jammu Tawi tioned clearly that at present the production and installation of the same is being carried of petrol in the country is sufficient to meet out. the requirements. As such there is no scheme under consideration to mix alcohol with pet- Date of commissioning and the Tele- rol. This is very costly. Two years back we graph Offices linked are given in Annexures were importing industrial alcohol. Fortunately I and II below. now the rains are good. That is why we are now getting sufficient quantity of alcohol and we are using it. The programme is as follows: We are lifting it from Uttar Pradesh also. This yearwe have lifted it and exported it. We got the foreign exchange also. Himachal Pradesh - Shimla

Introduction of Store and forward Jammu & Kashmir - Jammu Tawi Telegraph System In North-Western States *805. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- The Micro-processor based SFT Sys- ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- tem handles transit traffic automatically, TIONS be pleased to state: thereby reducing transit delays to telegrams. 13 Oral Answe/'S VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14

ANNEXURE-I

Name of the State Punjab/Chandigarh

Name of the Centre Chandigarh

Date of Commissioning 30-03-89

The following Telegraph Offices are 7. Ludhiana-Millarganj connected to this Centre: 8. Amritsar 1. Chandigarh (2 terminals) 9. Jalandhar 2. Chandigarh Sec. 27 10. Pathankot 3. Nangal 11. Hoshiarpur 4. Farozepur \ 12. Ambala (Inter SFT) 5. Moga 13. Simla (Inter 8FT) 6. Ludhiana

ANNEXURE-II

Name of tha State Haryana

Name of the Centre Ambala

Data of Commissioning 30-3-1989

The following Telegraph Offices are 9. Yamuna Nagar connected to this centre: 10. Rajpura 1. Ambala (2 Terminals) 11. Patiala 2. Ambala City 12. Chandigarh (Inter SFT) 3. Hissar 13. Simla (Intar SFT) 4. Bhiwani PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR: 5. Sonepat I have gone through the statement but I don't find the names of telegraph offices which 6. Kurukshetra would be linked to Shimla and Jammu on the installation of SFT. 7. Karnal [ Trans/ation] 8. Panipat THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- 15 Oral AnSW91S MAY 2,1989 Oral Answ91S 16

TIONS (SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH): Sir, [Eng/ish] the main lines in the Jammu town of Jammu will be linked with Jammu Tawi. The main TV Transmitter. In Andhra Pradesh lines of Himachal Pradesh will be linked with Simla. *S08 SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: Will the Minister of INFORMATION (English1 AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR: (a) whether the power of some low What is the definition of main? Does it means power TV transmitters in Andhra Pradesh is that all the district headquarters will be cov- proposed to be increased during the remain- ered and linked up with Shimla and Jammu ing period of the Seventh Plan; respectively or does it have another catego- (b) if so. the details thereof; and risation? If so, on what-dates? (c) the amount allocated for the pur- [ Translation] pose and the amount spent so far?

SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH: The major THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE district headquarters and the big towns or MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND centres where the number of telegrams is BROADCASTING (SHRI S. KRISHNA more when linked to these towns are called KUMAR): (a) to (c). A statement is given 'main'. below. STATEMENT

As part of the Seventh Plan of Doordarshan. schemes for the replacement of the low power (100W) TV transmitters fundioning at Anantapur and Tirupati in Andhra Pradesh by high power (10 KW) transmitters are under implementation. Details of the estimated capital cost on the setting up of these projects and the expenditure incurred till March 1989 are given beJow:-

(Rs. in lakhs)

Project Capital cost Expenditure incurred

High Power Transmitter. Anantapur 254.00 97.55

High Power Transmitter. Tirupati 260.00 78.46

SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: In Pradesh already has 16 low power transmit- the whole of the 7th Plan only two stations- ters and we have inaugurated the 17th low Anantpur and Tirupati--have been taken up power transmitter only the day before yes- for replacement by high power transmitters. terday at Adilabad. The replacement of Low I would like to know the number of low power Power Transmitters with High Power Trans- transm itters set up in Andhra Pradesh and mitters is a planned and graduated process why in the whole of the 7th Plan only these and in the Seventh Five Year Plan, as has two stations have been taken up. I would been replied in the main answer. two Low also like to know whether there is any dis· Power Transmitters are being replaced by crimination against the Andhra Pradesh High Power Transmitters in Andhra Pradesh. Government in this respect. I would also like to mention that Andhra Pradesh is one of the two States in the SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: Andhra country, which have been given the benefit 17 Oral AnsW91S VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Oral AnswelS 18

of total coverage by regional transmission in will be installed during the Seventh Plan the regionallanguaga, viz. Telugu. The only period itself. I would like to correct the earlier other State in the country which has the figure which I had given. At the end of the facility of total regional transmission is Seventh Plan, the coverage of Andhra Maharashtra The ooverage of Andhra Pradesh will go up to 77%. The 69% figure Pradesh will increase to 69% at the end of relates to the rural areas of Andhra Pradesh. Seventh Plan and if you compare it with various other States, you will see that Andhra Pradesh has been given more than its due in THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY the matter of television infra-structure in the AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- country. TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): I would like to give some addi- SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: In tional information. The Government has a Anantapur District of Andhra Pradesh, there plan for sandioning another 100 Low Power is a lot of demand for T.V.; and people are Transmitters-it is under the process of using Dish-Antenna and it costs two thou- sanctioning--when it is sanctioned, we are sand or three thousand rupees for the T.V. considering to give 7 LPT out of 1 00, to serial-viewers. I would like to know from the Andhra Pradesh. (Interruptions) Minister when this High Power Transmitter in Anantapur is scheduled to be completed. SHRI H.A. DORA: Sir. he has not Will it be oompleted within schedule, be- answered my question. cause only less than 40% of the allotted amount has been spent? Will the amount be SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: We have spent according to schedule and will this told you that it will be completed within the High Power Transmission Station be opened next six to eight months, i.e. within the end of within the period? the Seventh Plan.

SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: The main SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: Earlier than point is that the lead time for the implemen- that. I will show you. tation of the High Power Transmission is two or three years. The Anantha pur HPT is [ Tra:-Is!ation] under implementation. This will be com- pleted in the beginning stages of the Eighth SHRIMATI VIDYAVATI CHATURVEDI: Plan. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the hone Minister has stated just now that the range of all the SHRI H.A. DORA: in Andhra low power T.V. transmitters set up in the Pradesh is a backward District; 950/0 of the country is 20-25 kilometres. It means thatthe people there belong to the backward com- programme telecast by them Can be viewed munity. Recently the Minister has announced only in areas within this range, but my expe- that a T.V. Transmitter would be installed in rience is just the othar way round. There are Srikakulam District. May I know from the two low-power transmitters in my constitu- han. Minister as to when it would be installed ency, but the programmes telecast by them and where it would be installed? can be viewed only up to a distance of 5 to 7 kilometres and not beyond that. Even within Has the Minister taken any steps to the town, the reception of the telecast is not insial any transmitter in Srikakulam District? clear. keeping this situation in view, I in the What are the steps that are being taken by would like to ask the han. Minister whether the Government? any action is being taken to bring improve- ment in the low power transmitters and to remove defects in it? Does the Government SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: In Sri- propose to oonvert such defective low-power kakulam District, a low Power Transmitter transmitters into:-high-power transmitters? 19 Oral Answers MAY 2,1989 Oral Answers 20

[English) ters of Ganjam district? It is well-known that Srikakulam and Ganjam districts have bilin- SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: The reach gual population speaking both Oriya and of the low power transmitter on an average is Telugu. I would like to know whether there is 25 km but in certain situations due to the any transmitter at Behrampur to serve these topography of the area it is quite possible two language people. that the reach may be less. At the end of the Seventh Five Year Plan our programme is to SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: The low cover all the district head-quarters of the power transmitter already exists in the dis- country. Recently we made an analysis on trict of Behrampur in Orissa. The language the basis of parliamentary constituencies. At programme of particular States is prepared the end of the Seventh Five Year Plan we will at the State headquarters Kendra. Basically be covering either wholly or partially all par- it is Oriya but depending on the minority liamentary constituencies exceptfive. These composition of each State the Doordarshan five also we are trying to see whether they Kendra also produces minority language can also be covered during the Seventh Plan programmes. The hon. Senior Member's itseH. Our strategy is to progressively cover suggestion will definitely be looked into. We the uncovered areas during the beginning have a scheme to increase the time for stages of the Eighth Plan. minority programmes.

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY [ Trans/ation] AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRt H.K.L. SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI: Mr. Deputy BHAGAT): I will get the transmitter men- Speaker, Sir, first of all, I would like to thank tioned by the lady Member checked up and the han. Minister of Information and Broad- get the defects rectified, if any. Normally it casting for having stated just now that the should cover 25 km but there is problem in Government is going to install another 100 respect of hilly areas. Low Power Transmitters. Now, I would likel0 know from the han. Minister whether the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Accordingto population norms should be changed and our information in many places where you brought below 50,000 so that the rural areas are having low powerstations they are giving may also be covered. Will the Government lot of problems. People do not get reception be kind enough to take a decision in this irom other transmitters also. In my constitu- regard? ency there is the same problem. SHRI H.K.l. BHAGAT: Mr. Deputy SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: We have re- Speaker, Sir, as I have stated that 100 Low ceived complaints from some places regard- Power Transmitters have not been cleared ing reception of signals from transmitter to so far. However, clearance is likely to be transmitter. We are looking into these com- given very soon. I expect that these transmit- plaints. By and large the system is working ters will be installed in tribal areas and in well. There are some problems to which we border areas. These transm itters are to be are attending to. installed in remote areas to benefit the peop;e more. Initially, the plan was that by and large MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: There are lot these transmitters will be installed in towns of complaints in respect of Dharampuri. with a population of one lakh and under which border areas, Tribal areas and distant SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: We shall attend areas may also be covered. Such things are to them and try to rectify the same. kept in mind. The 100 transmitters have not been sanc.1ioned so far but we are making PROF. N.G. RANGA: Isthereaf"lytrans- efforts in this direction so that we may be mitter at Behrampur which is the headquar- able to install the maximum number of trans- 21 Oral AnSWBIS VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22 mitters during the Seventh Plan Period inaccessible areas, etc. Now, regarding this particular dlstrid which he has mentioned, [Eng/ish] he is very welcome today itself to discuss it with me. J assure him of a very sympathetic SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. OEO: consideration. Let me make it clear that the While the Minister was answering, first of all idea is to not only choose the district centres he said that n per cent of Andhra Pradesh with a large population but also to cover the is already covered by television network. percentage of population. He has mentioned Secondly, a survey was oonducted based on certain figures about Andhra Pradesh. As I Parliamentary constituencies. Thirdly, he said have said, we are thinking for seven more that they are trying to see that every District centres for Andhra Pradesh. The whole Headquarters is covered by television. What pUrpGse of this expansion programme is to I would like to know is that my constituency expand television all over the country and to is a very backward one because it is a cut across all parties, sections, Zila Par- reserved constituency. Apart from that Prof. ishads, municipal bodies, etc. All MPs and Ranga, regarding the language problem, MLAs belonging to all sections are empha- even with regard to Telugu language, there sising and pressing for it as you are doing is no area in my constituency I which is a now. That is why, we are trying to get 100 tribal one, which can get the television pro- additional centres sanctioned. TV require- grammes. As far as the constituencies are ment is a must in this vast country. They will concerned, I do not know the basis because continue to ask for more and more and we no part of my constituency can get the tele- have to give more and more subject to the vision. Secondly, it is a tribal constituency. availability of resources, equipments, trained You said that the quota for Andhra Pradesh personnel and so on. We have made these was over. 77 per cent has been covered. transmitters inourcountry. byourown public Does it mean that since 77percent has been undertakings but some parts have been covered and since Andhra Pradesh has got imported. Our TV expansion has been hailed more than its quota and since you want this by world experts as the largest TV audience to be confined only to the urban district in the shortest possible time. I assure the headquarters, these backward and tribal hone Member that we are doing out best and areas will remain without television? Have we are focussing on the tribal are as. you got any other programme for this? What are your intentions vis-a-vis these backward SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: regions where there are topographical prob- There is no doubt that Behrampur is a bilin- lems also as you yourself have mentioned? gual district. But equally, Vishakapatnam, Vijayanagaram and Srikakulam are also bi- SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: I do not know as lingual districts.l would like to know whether far as this particular constituency is con- all the languages will be adopted in the cerned. But I will answer the question. He is bilingu~istricts or any other language will welcome ... be telecast for the minority communities. Oriyas are in minority in Andhra Pradesh. I SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO: want to know whether the telecast will be Sir, it covers two constituencies, namely. made in Oriya for the minority community. Vijayanagaram and Srikakulam. It cover the tribal areas of both the districts. SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: At this stage, it will not be possible for me to say about the SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: As I have al- particular regional stations and what particu- ready submitted for the consideration of the lar minority languages are covered. Broadly. han. Member, the purpose of further expan- we have dominant language programme sion of the television service and one of the and other programmes also: The idea is to major considerations is to take it to the tribal statisfy everybody. But ultimately, the tele- areas, border areas, hitly areas and the cast tima in the regional stations is also 23 Oral AnsWGIS MAY 2, 1989 Oral Answers 24 limited. They have those limitations. Keep- cial drive to check theft of power, better ing those limitations in view they have to capacity utilisation. recovery of outstanding frame their programmes. We do want that duqs and improvement in public relations. apart from the dominant language of the particular State there should be some pro- DR. A.K. PATEL: Sir, According to the gramme in other languages also. This is the reply of the Han. Minister during the first problem not only with one State but this is the three years the loss is more than Rs. 700 problem in almost every State of this coun- crores. As I know. I have go' information with try. In every State, in every village there are me, it is even more than Rs. 1000 crores. people who speak more than one language. DESU has totally become bankrupt. The Our intention is, subject to the availability of World Bank has refused to pay any loan to equipment, resources and personnel, to DESU. I would like to know from the Han. increase the regional transmission so that Minister whether attention has been drawn we can satisfy some linguistic group to some to the following allegations against the extent. But I cannot at this time say on which General Manager by the DESU Engineer's particular station which linguistic language is Association. The first allegation is ... being telecast. We are for the development of all the languages. It is a time consuming MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Why are you process. Finally, in the shape of things, it mentioning about the allegations? takes a long time to develop in that way. DR. A.K. PATEL: Sir because it has Losses In DESU suffered losses. These losses are due to the corruption and that is why I want to bring to *810. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the Minis- the notice of the han. Ministerthe allegations ter of ENERGY be pleased to state: made by the Engineers' Association of DESU.

(a) the losses incurred by the Delhi PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You Electric Supply Undertaking during 1987- call it a Performance Report. 88, 1988-89 and 1989-90; and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Are you (b) the steps taken so far to check the putting question or making a Statement here? losses and the results achieved? DR. A.K. PATEL: I want to know from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Hon. Minister what steps is he going to DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN TI-lE MINIS- take to bring down the corruption and in turn TRYOF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): the great losses of DESU, and particularly to (a) According to the Delhi Electric Supply see the corruption of the General Manager Undertaking losses are as under:- and other officers.

Year Losses (Rs. in SHRI KALPNATH RAI: Mr. Deputy crores) Speaker, Sir, DESU is in loss because the tariff in Delhi is the lowest in India. The cost 1987-88 (Prov.) 208.73 of fuel and the cost of coal is increasing but we have not increased tariff. Power theft was 1988-89 (Prov.) 201.80 there in Delhi. When this gentleman came there was a big drive to check it and about 1989-90 (Estimated) 238.98 350 persons were arrested. Many persons who were running the cold storage were put (b) DESU have initiated action to bring behind the bars. In the last five years, this about improvement in their operation by year the highest recovery ... ( Interruptions) better inventory control, reduction in opera- tional costs, reduction of T&D losses, spe- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please or- 25 Oral Answ91S VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Oral AnsWBrs 26

der, order. First, let us take the cost. Recently. I have said here that anything that is called as SHRI KALPNATH RAI: The highest T and 0 loss is nothing but theft. We have revenue realisation of Rs. 368 crores has passed Acts here as also in the States and taken place this year. The Recovery Plan is we are trying our best to see that the T and under consideration. The Government of o loss is minimised. But, let us consider the India is going to take some step to get the reality of the situation. If any of the State recovery. The matter is under consideration. Electricity Board has to sell power-whether The Transmission Stations are under con- for agriculture or domestic consumption or struction; transmission fines are being industries--at fowerthan the oost, who shoufd erected. 1250 MW power is needed for Delhi subsidise that? Let the State Government in the summer. 135 MW is added by Rajghat. subsidise. Why do you want to make the The situation in Delhi has improved consid- State Electricity Boards run in losses and erably and the Government is trying its best demoralise the State Electricity Boards? This to improve the situation. leads to' greater corruption, whether it is DESU, Delhi or any other State Electricity [ Trans/ation] Board. My submission is that this is a wrong policy. While in Delhi, DESU sells power at SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL: Is it 45 paise per unit for demestic consumption under the notice of the Government as to as against 84 paise or 60 paise or 78 paise how many times power cuts are made in in Bombay, Calcutta and Ahmedabad, how Delhi? Nowadays in Ramzans' montrt power can they ever make profit? when you see supply is being suspended for 10 to 20 hours losses, pounce on them, the General Man· in a day and the hon. Minister is defending ager etc. and say that they are responsible the General Manager. How can it be said for the losses. that the General Manager is unaware of all these things? Sir, as far as inefficiency is concerned, I have stated, let us give the devil its due. [English] Earlier, Hon. Members were disturbed and said that in the case of DESU. the manage- DR. A.K. PATEL: Sir, I am happy to ment was responsible to a large extent in not learn that the tariff in Delhi is low, whereas recovering the dues and not being firm with the tariff in Gujarat is the highest in whole of the people. Let us go by the results and see India. I would like to know whether our Min- the performance of the present manage- ister will instruct the Gujarat Electricity Board ment and the present General Manager. I to bring down the tariff in Gujar~t State. will answer your question, don't worry.

( Interruptions) THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): Sir, actually if you see Let us first judge them by the facts and the figures in the Metropolitan cities, in then come to the conclusion. Under the Madras it is 55 paise for domestic consump- present management, upto January, 1988 tion, in Bombay ~ is 78 paise, in Calcutta it is theft cases were 2, 176 and misuse of excess 59.22 paise, in Ahmedabad it is 84.53 paise loads were 2,092. Now, let us see the recov- per unit domestic consumption and in Delhi eries of revenue realisation. If you take from it is 45 paise which is the lowest, because of 1983-84 onwards, from Rs. 150 crores, it pressures. I have been saying that most of has gone upto Rs. 325 crores, As. 324 the State Electricity Boards in the country crores and As. 368 crores in the last three are running in losses. Why? This is because years. So, we can see that they are making the State Governments force them to sell efforts to improve the situation. The moment power lower than their cost of you try to be firm, the vested interests get price ... (Interruptions) agitated. These vested interests who are the 27 Oral Answsrs MAY 2,1989 Oral Answ91S 28 engineers are hand in glove with the people highest level. May I know the number of who steal. No theft can take place if the people apprehended out of the list wh ich has officers are not hand in glove with those been just read out? It is mostly the poor people who steal electricity. Therefore, it is people, fhe slum dwellers and the hawkers the officers who do this mischief. against whom such cases have been filed. There is no case against any big industrialist SHRt JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL: The or factory owner. Their metres are backed, I General Manager himself is responsible. would like to know whether any committee has ever been set up to investigate into the SHRI VASANT SATHE: The General reasons and to assess the extent of the loss Manager himself does not distribute power. suffered by DESU; who is responsible for it If people who are lower below do it, you and has any action taken against such per- should not get up and defend those engi- sons? At least the General Manager should neers who are responsible for committing be transferred because he is incapable of thefts. This is what I want to say' in this managing the power supply In Delhi. House. Therefore, let us not blame the General Manager only. SHRI KALPNATH RAI: Mr. Speaker Sir, I would like to submit, the han. Members SHAI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL: You of opposition may also take note of it, that are defending the General Manager. since the General Manager has taken charge of the management here. the situation has SHRI VASANT SATHE: Nobody de- improved considerably ... ( Interruptions) ... fends any wrong doer. Hsomebody is trying to do something good, do not defend those SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL: You people who are doing wrong. After all, facts are not aware of the position at speak for themselves. (Interruptions) aiL .. (Interruptions)

[ Translation] [English]

SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL: Mr. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Allegations Deputy Speaker, Sir,llistened lathe speech will not go on record. of the hon. Minister and was impressed. As regards the losses incurred by DESU, the (Interruptions) * management and the General Manager himself Is responsible for it. It is very unfortu- [ Trans/ation] nate that during the Ramzan days, electricity is not available for 20 hours in a day. It is also SHRI KALPNATH RAI: There has been regretful that the water pumps have no power improvement. As. 368 crores have been on the day Holi is celebrated in Delhi. If the recovered ths year. The arrests made in management is to be blamed, then General connection with power thefts have been the Manager should be held responsible for it. highest this year as compared to the records The actual reason behind the losses is that of the last five years. Since the present no physical verification is made of the mate- General Manager took charge last year, 22 rials purchased and taken on charge. No thousand unauthorised connections have record of stock taking and the items released been disconnected and connections of 12 for utilisation etc. is maintained which may furnaces have also been disconnected. The bring into light the extent of bungling there. cold storage owners have been arrested This is the main reason behind these losses. with the help of the CBI...(lnt9"Uptions) When meters get burnt, no action is taken against the suppliers of such defective me- [English] ters because they are in collusion with the DESU officials right from the lowest to the SHRI M.R. SAl KIA: How many persons

*Not recorded. 29 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30

have been punished? laboration with Japan; and

[ Translation] (b) if so, the details thereof including the location of the project, its capacity and the SHRI KALPNATH RAI: If you are ar- time by which it would start production? rested on the charge of the murder, due punishment will be awarded ... The question THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE is that when a person is arrested, a'charge DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- sheet is prepared and he is put under trial. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- However, they have got reputed lawyers to TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and defend them ... (lnterruptions) ... What will be (b). A statement is given below. the result? Therefore, I am saying that efforts are being made to improve the situation in STATEMENT Delhi. The whole management is making efforts in this direction. 135 MW have been (a) and (b). MIs Copwud Orient Watches added. Capacitors have been connected Limited, Bombay have been granted an with the transmission lines. Reoovery is being approval for foreign collaboration with MIs made rapidly. The Government is making all Orient Watch Company of Japan and a out efforts to fulfill the power requirements of registration with the Directorate General of the capital. The present situation will not Technical Development in December, 1988 continue for long and there shall be consid- and April, 1989, respectively, for the estab- erable improvement in it. lishment of a new undertaking at Silvassa in the Union territory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli, [Eng/ish] for the manufacture of quartz analogue wrist watches and quartz analogue watch move- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Next ques- ments for an annual capacity of 10 lakh Nos. tion, Dr. Samant. According to the Registration application, the time required for the implementation of DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI: I want to the project has been shown as twelve months. put a question on this subject. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA NARA- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please sit SIMHARAJA WADIYAR: According to the down. I have called Shri Wadiyar. Statement laid on the Table of the House by the Minister, MIs. Copwud Orient Watches DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI: How can Limited, have been granted an approval for you deny my right Sir? I have kept my hand foreign collaboration with MIs Orient Watch raised for more than haH an hour. I want to Company of Japan for setting up a factory at have an half an hour discussion on this Dadra and Nagar Haveli. subject. Will you allow it? I would like to know from the hone Min- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will con- ister what would be the cost of setting up the sider it. watch manufacturing unit, whether the Japa- nese are going to participate financially. Watch Factory In collaboration wHh Japan If so, what would be the extent of foreign exchange involved in having this *816. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA collaboration and whether the Minister en- NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the visage any export from this collaboration? Ministry of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: What would be the employment potential?

(a) whether a letter of intent has been SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: Sir, the issued for setting up a watch factory in 001- total investment proposed is about As. 1137 31 Oral Answers MAY 2,1989 Oral AnswelS 32 lakhs. Under the heading 'Imported':Capital mentioned earlier, we have oh's unit of HMT equipmentthecost comes to Rs. 1100lakhs. in Karnataka. Sir, may I knowwhetherTumkur Under the heading 'Indigenous', capital is in Karnataka. (Interruptions) equipment the cost comes to Rs. 17lakhs. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You asked As far as export obligation is concerned, about Hosur only. I told you it is in Tamil 10 per cent of the annual production of items Nadu. Tumkur is in Karnataka. to be manufactured under the collaboration for a period of five years are to be exported. SHRI CHANDRA PRATAP NARAIN SINGH: He mustgo back and read Geogra- SHRI SRIKANTHA DAnA NARA- phy. SIMHARAJA WADIYAR: I want to know from the hon. Minister whether it is a fact that Excess BIlling of Telephones with STD the proposal was originally to set up that Facility watch manufacturing unit in the State of Karnataka. *818. SHRI SRIHARI RAO: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATONS be pleased H so, what are the reasons for shifting to state: the location of the plant from Karnataka to Dadra and Nagar Haveli? (a) whether there are frequ~nt com- plaints of excess billing of telephones with Does the Government still have a pro- STD facility from subscribers; posal to set up a watch factory at Karnataka in collaboration with either the Orient Watch (b) whether it is proposed to show STD Company or with any other company? call-wise charges in the bills on the lines of trunk call charges; and H so, what action is being taken in this regard to expedite the matter? (c) if not, the reasons therefor?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE J. VENGAL RAO): In Karnataka, there are MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI big watch factories. Two Units of HMT are GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Some com- there. The Tatas'-Titan-factory is also plaints of excess billing are received from there. subscribers. the total number of complaints received during the period from 1-4-88 to AN. HON. MEMBER: Is he referring to 31.1.89 worked out to 1.12% of the number Hosur? of bills issued during this period.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hosur is not (b) At present, STD call-wise charges in in Karnataka. It is in Tamil Nadu. the bills can be made available in E-1 OBtype electronic exchanges. SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: In Bangalore, there is a factory. (Interruptions) (c) Detailed billing facility in other types of exchanges is not technically feasible at SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: What is the present. need to give licences to the private sector companies for manufacturing watches? Can't SHRI SRIHARI RAO: The answer of HMT utilise its full capacity to manufacture the Minister is not corred. In our House, all more watches? What is the need to have the MPs gave a complaint against excess collaboration with the Japanese firms? billing-I think, including you also, Sir. (Inter- ruptions) Throughout the country t aU the SHRI J. VENGAL RAD: We have lot of demands. But our production is less. That is cities are affected. (/nt9"uptions) There is why in the organised sector, we are- able to an association, perhaps in Andhra. In my manufacture 8.5 million watches. In the small constituency, Rajamundry, there was an scale sector, we are able to manufacture 1.5 agitation last year. What is the method for million watches. Our total demand oomes to controlling excess billing? (/nt9mJptions) nearly 15 million watches. that is why we are giving licences to the private sector. As I 33 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 34

WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS proposal to telecast "Sansad Samachar" in the regional languages from the respective [English] Ooordarshan Kendras when the Parliament is in session; Dish-Antennas for T.V. viewers In Rural Areas of Andhra Pradesh (b) if so, the details in this regard and the date from which the proposal is likely to *801. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: Will the be implemented; and Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased to state: (c) jf not, the reasons therefor?

(a) whether the T.V. viewers in rural THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY areas of Andhra Pradesh have to spend AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- amount for getting clear T:V. reception; and TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRJ H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) No, Sir. (b) if so, whether there is any proposal to supply dish antennas in those areas at (b) Does not arise. subsidised rates? (c) 'Sansad Samachar' in Hindi and TH E MIN ISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY 'Parliament News' in English are being tele- AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- cast in the National Programme of Ooor- TION AND BROADCASTING ,SHRI H.K.L. darshan carried by all transmitters. Due to BHAGAT): (a) and (b). TV service is, at paucity of transmission time, it is not pos- present, available to about 58% of rural sible to telecast these programmes in re- population of Andhra Pradesh, inclusive of gional languages from respective Ooor- the population in fringe areas, where ele- darshan Kendras. The proceedings in Par- vated multi-element antennae andlor boost- liament are, however, noticed in the National ers are required for receiving satisfactory news as well as regional news bulletins reception. Cost of these antennaelboosters telecast from dIfferent Doordarshan Ken- IS not excessive. With the completion of VII dras. Plan schemes in hand, TV service is ex- pected to become available to about 69% of rural population of the State. Further exten- Installation of Long Distance Public sion of T. V. coverage would depend on the Telephones in Rural Areas availability of resources for future Plans of TV expansl~:>n. ·806. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the Telecast of Sansad Samachar In Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased Regional Languages to state the State·wise number of long dis· tance public telephones proposed to be "803. SHRI B.B. RAMAIAH: Installed in the rural areas during the Eighth SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- Plan period? WARA RAO:

Will the Ministerof INFOAMATrON AND THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: TIONS (SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH): The Eighth Plan proposals are in the process of (a) whether Government have any finalisation. 35 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 36

Racket in Sale and Transfer of National tice and involvement of any postal official Savings Certificates of Tribals and therein. Subsequently in October '86 it was Scheduled Castes in Orissa brought to the notice of the Government about certain arbitrary action taken by local *807. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Will postal authorities regarding identification of the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be the holders' by specified officials of the Dis- pleased to state: trict Administration which was causing har- assment. Certain staff of Koraput Head P.O. (a) whether Government are aware of a suspected to be in league with middle-men racket in respect of sale and transfer of were also shifted by Sr. Supdt. of Post Of- National Savings Certificates causing loss to fices, Jeypur (Koraput) to safeguard interest displaced tribals and Scheduled Castes in of poor Adivasi depositors. Complaints were Orissa; also made against Sr. Supdt. of Post Offices and Assistant Supdt. of Post (Headquarter) (b) if so, the details thereof; and which on enquiry were found not correct. Both of these officials have, however, since (c) the corrective measures taken in- been transferred. Clarifications were also cluding action against guilty officials and issued by the Department of Posts on making up the loss to displaced tribals and 30.3.1987 to permit any respectable witness Scheduled Castes? to identify the holders so that no harassment was caused. THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- TIONS (SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH): (a) There has been no subsequent com- to (c). Cases for premature encashment of plaint in this regard. National Savings Certificate purchased by the tribal and other landless persons dis- Flaring of Natural Gas at Bombay High placed by the Upper Kalab Hydro Electric Project in Koraput District of Orissa was *809. SHRI ARVIND TULSHIRAM received by the Government in March '86. KAMBLE: These certificates were purchased by the SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: holders out of the compensation amount paid by the Government for their rehabilita- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND tion and building of houses. The investment NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: thus was locked up for three years as per the National Savings Certificate Rules in exis- (a) the quantity of natural gas being tence in 1985. Since the holders were in dire flared at Bombay High; need of their invested money their applica- tion for premature encashme~t were proc- (b) whether it is proposed to supply the essed and sanctioned, as () special case in gas thus wasted to Maharashtra for thermal July 1986. power generation and industrial purposes;

(c) if not, the reasons therefor; Complaint regarding alleged mal-prac- tice in encashment'transfer of NSCs of dis- (d) whether the gas from Bombay High placed Adivasis by some State Government can be directly used for cooking purposes; officials in connivance with some postal offi- and cials was received. Inquiries made so far have not substantiated the alleged malprac- (e) if so, the steps taken in this regard? 37 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (i) the exchange is of Penta Conta MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- design with its inherent mainte- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) During nance problems. the year 1988-89, on an average 7.6 million M3 per day of associated gas was flared from (ii) due to unit fee tariff the traffic is the Western Offshore fields. very high and there are problems of congestion. (b) and (c). Gas has been committed for supply for the power plants of Maharashtra (c) The short and long term steps pro· State Electricity Board (3 MMCMD) and Tata posed to reduce the call failures are: Electric Company (1.5 MMCMD). Apart from this; commitment of gas has been made for Short-term measures: varia: IS projects in Maharashtra to the extent of about 10 MMCMD (including ONGC's (I) A large number of PCM systems internal requirements at Uran). are being commissioned be- tween Delhi and Ghaziabad. (d) and (e). 1.5 MMCMD of gas has been committed for supply to the Bombay (ii) All calls between Delhi and City for cooking and other purposes. Ghaziabad will be routed through digital electronic eXChange (871). Telephone Calls between Delhi and Ghaziabad (iii) The Penta Conta cross bar 84 level exchange is being deloaded '"811. [JR. DATTA SAMANT: Will the by transforming another 400 lines Ministerof COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to the E-1 DB exchange. to state: Long Term Measures: (a) whether call maturing failures be- tween Deihl and Ghaziabad are compara- (i) An optical fibre system is also tively high; proposed between Delhi and Ghazlabad which will further (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and improve the call completion rate.

(c) the steps proposed to be taken to (il) The Penta Conta exchange is check the call failures? being replaced by an electronic system during the Eighth Plan. THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- TIONS (SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH): (a) Production of Automotive Vehicles Three exchanges with Codes 84 (cross bar) 871 and 873 (Digital Electronic) eXChanges *813. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the are serving Ghaziabad. The Call failure from Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: and to Exchange with Code 84 is compara- tively high. (a) whether there has been a fall in production of automotIve vehicles;

(b) The reasons for failure of calfs (b) if so, the categories of automotive between Delhi and '84' exchange at Ghazia- vehicles in which the declining trend is most bad is mainly due to the fact that: noticeable; 39 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 40

(c) the reasons therefor; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) No, Sir. (d) the production trend in 1 g88-89 as compared to that in 1987-88: and (b), (c) and (e). Do not arise. (e) the steps taken or proposed to be taken to check the declining trend? (d) A statement is given below.

STATEMENT

(d) Production of automobiles in 1988-89 as compared to 1987-88 is as under:-

1987-88 1988-89

1. Passenger Cars 151875 166098

2. Medium & Heavy Commercial Vehicles 65086 70225

3. Light Commercial Vehicles 44120 45226

4. Two-wheelers 1433916 1604009

5. Three-wheelers 61112 79452

6. Jeep type Vehicles 32036 37615

Power Supply Position in Delhi requirements of Delhi are met from its own generation plants at Indraprastha Thermal ·815. DR. S.L. SHAILESH: Will the Power Station and Gas Turbine Station, Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: generation from 8adarpur Thermal Power Station and assistance from the Northern (a) whether the power supply position in Grid. Delhi in the ensuing summer is likely to worsen with the city being dependent on the Various steps taken to ensure adequate Northern Grid for over a third of Its require- availability of power in Delhi during the ments: and summer of 1989 include installation of ca- pacitors, strengthening of transmission lines (b) if so, the steps being taken to meet and distribution system, reduction of T & 0 the situation well in time? losses, establishment of 67.5 MW capacity out of a total of 135 MW at Rajghat Thermal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Power Station, maximising generation from DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- existing power stations, etc. A Task Force TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAJ): has been constituted to closely monitor the (a) and (b). The Power supply position in power supply position in Delhi and the prog- Delhi is by and large satisfactory. The power ress of various works under execution. 41 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 42

Demand and Production of Crude Oil As far as Natural Gas is concerned, and Petroleum Products steps to create the facilities for its use in- clude:- 817. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL Construction of C2/C3 plants and GAS be pleased to state: LPG plants for extraction of C2/C3 and LPG fractions from gas. (a) the estimated requirement of crude oil and petroleum products during 1989~90; laying of pipelines and creating other necessary infrastructural (b) the estimated oil output in the coun- facilities for processing and trans- try during 1989~90; portation of gas.

(c) the net outgo on account of oil im- Installation of low pressure gas ports during 1988-89; and compressors for transportiny low pressure gas to consumers. (d) the steps proposed to intensify ex- ploration of oil and to create the facilities for Commitment of gas to outcomers the use of natural gas? in accordance with availability.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Growth of Industries in Maharashtra MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) The *819. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will requirement of crude oil for processing and the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to the demand for petroleum products during state: 1989-90 is estimated to be 50.96 million tonnes and 54.161 million tonnes respec- (a) the rate of growth of industries in tively. Maharashtra during the Seventh Plan period so far; (b) The production of crude oil indi- genously during 1989-90 is estimated to be (b) how does it compare with the indus- 34.51 million tonnes. trial growth of the State during the Sixth Plan period; and (c) The net value of import of crude oil and petroleum products during 1988-89 is (c) how it has helped in the growth of estimated to be about Rs. 3672 crores. industrial employment?

(d) The following steps have been taken THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI to increase the production of crude oil: J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). Central Sta- tistical Organisation does not compile state- Intensification of exploration, which wise index of industrial production. How- may eventually lead to enhanced ever, on ail India basis, the rate of industrial production. growth during the first 3 years of the Seventh Plan was 8.4 per cent per annum as com- Use of enhanced oil recovery tech- pared to an annual average rate of growth of niques. 6.4 per cent achieved in the Sixth Plan.

Induction of advanced technology (c) According to the Ministry of Labour, 43 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 44 total employment in the organised sector in (b) the capacities in the pipeline for the Maharashtra t the end of March, 1988 stood above drugs? at 35.50 lakhs as compared to 34.41 lakhs at the end of Sixth Plan e.g. March, 1985 re- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI. cording an increase of 3.2 per cent. J. VENGAL RAO): (a) This Department noes not monitor capacities installed by compa- Installed Capacities of Drug Companies nies. Company-wise details of production of monitored bulk drugs in the organised sector 7595. SHRIMATI MANEMMA: Will the fo the last three years, Year-wise are given Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: in the Statement below:-

(a) the installed capacities and produc- (b) Details of the industrial approvals tion of Ampicillin Trihydrate, Amoxycillin including capacity licensed, issued from time Trihydrate, Cephalexin, Cloxacillin Sodium to time, are published regularly by Indian and Vitamin B 6 in the country both in organ- Investment Centre in their Monthly Newslet- ised sector and the small scale sector during ter, copies of which are available in the the last three years company-wise; and Parliament Library.

STATEMENT

Name of drug/ Ale Unit Prorluct;on Name of company 1985-86 1986-87 1987-88

Ampicillin T

IDPL 1.54 2.60 5.70

HAL 1.35 , .62 0.62

Ranbaxy, Labs. 99.27 120.65 160.06

Alembic Chemicals 1.14 2.75 7.68

Cadila Labs. 11.73 15.7 16.5

Lyphin Chemicals 6.15 14.37 0.5

Euphoric Pharma 0.10 0.76

Armour Chemicals 37.79

Amoxycillin T

IDPL 0.40

HAL u.08

Sarabhai Chemicals 0.47 2.95

Ranbaxy Labs. 3.20 13.8 33.17

Cadila labs. 0.22 0.27 Armour Chemicals 12.15 45 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

Capacity Utilisation by Cycle Corpora- impeded the full utilisation of capacity. tion of India Ltd.

7596. SHRI R.M. SHOVE: Will the Delivery of Registered Letters Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: -,597. SHRI SODE RAMAIAH: Will the (a) the production of Cycle Corporation Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased of India Limited vis-a-vis the installed capac- to state: ity during the last three years, year-wise. (a) whether post offices are casual about (b) the reasons for under utilisation of its delivery of registered letters also; capacity; (b) the reasons for not ensuring delivery (c) whether there are any plans to utilise of A.D. cards; and the capacity in full in the near future; and (c) the steps being taken to give proper (d) if so, the details thereof ancl if not, the training to post masters to ensure better reasons therefor? service?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE J. VENGAL RAO): (a) The Installed capacity MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI of the Cycle Corporation of India Ltd. is 3.16 GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No, Sir. lakhs nos. of bicycles per annum. The actual production during the last three years was as (b) By and large, the acknowledgement follows: - due cards are being delivered in time.

Year No. of Bicycles (c) Postmaster are being called for in service refresher courses deSIgn to bring 1986-87 1,45,188 their knowledge up to date in operational matters. Group 'B' Postmasters are sub- 1987-88 74,931 jected to induction training before they take up their now charge. 1988-89 (Provisional) 85,867 LPG Botti ing Plants (b) The reasons for under utilisation of capacity are old and out-dated machinery. 7598. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: Will frequent power failure, shortage of working the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- capital etc. RAL GAS be pleased to state:

(c) and (d). Government has been ex- (a) the number of LPG bottling plants in tending financial assistance to the company the country at present. their location and on yearly basis is in the form of plan and non capacity, State-wise; plan loans for replacement of machinery and working capital needs and provision of (b) the number of LPG bottling plants Government guarantee for bank credit etc. under construction with their locatIon and These measures have enabled the com- capacity; pany to carry on with its current operations but the liabilities inherited by them have (c) whether the shortage in supply of 47 Written Answers MAY 2.1989 Written Answers 48

LPG cylinders is due to shortage of bottling THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE plants; and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTI): (a), (b) and (d). The information is given in state- • (d) the time by which the plants which ments I and II below:- are under construction are Itkely to start functioning to meet the demand? (c) No, Sir.

STATEMENT-I

List of On-Going LPG Bottling Plants

Name of the Oil Co. SI. No. Location with State Capacity (MTPA) as on 1.4.1989

1 2 3 4

I.O.C. 1 . Guwahatl (Assam) 5,000

2. Duliajan (Assam) 30,000

3. Bongigaon (Assam) 15,000

4. Barauni (Bihar) 20,000

5. Kayali (Gujarat) 1,00,000

6. Rajkot (Gujarat) 37,000

7. -Kanpur (Panki) (Uttar Pradesh) 25,000

8. Kanpur (Mini Plant) (Uttar Pradesh) 10,000

9. Mathura (Uttar Pradesh) 96,000

10. Allahabad (Uttar Pradesh) 35,000

11 . Jalandhar (Punjab) 40,000

12. Kalyani (West Bengal) 35,000

13. Haldia (West Bengal) 25,000

14. Durgapur (West Bengal) 10,000

15. Madras (Tamil Nadu) 1,00,000

16. Salem (Tamil Nadu) 40,000 49 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

1 2 3 4

17. Cochin (Kerala) 35,000

18. Bangalore (Karnataka) 10,000

19. Sawai Madhopur (Rajasthan) 10,000

20. Shakurbasti (Delhi) 50,000

21. Sawai Madhopur (Rajasthan) 25,000

22. Durgapur (West Bengal) 25,000

23. Karnal (Haryana) 25,000

24. Haldwani (Uttar Pradesh) 5,000

25. Hazira (Gujarat) 25,000

26. Tekrikalan- Phase I & II (Delhi) 75,000

27. Bhopal (Madhya Pradesh) 25,000

28. Jamshedpur (Bihar) 25,000

29. Parwanoo (Himachal Pradesh) 5,000

30. Balasore (Orissa) 25,000

31. Ajmer (Rajasthan) 8,000

B.P.C. 32. Coimbatore (Tamil Nadu) 37,500

33. Bombay (Refinery) (Maharashtra ) 1,50,000

34. Shakurbasti (Delhi) 40,000

35. Mangalore (Karnataka) 18,500

36. Jalgaon (Maharashtra) 12,500

37. Sholapur (Maharashtra) 12,500

38. Bhitoni (Jabalpur) (M.P) 25,000

39. Lalru (Ambala) (Haryana) 25,000 51 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 52 --- 1 2 3 4

40. Bareilly (Uttar Pradesh) 6,500

41. Jaipur (Rajasthan) 6,500

42. Lucknbw (Unar Pradesh 6,500

43. Khurda (Orissa) 6,500

44. Tuticorin (Tamil Nadu) 12,500

45. Asaoti /Piyala (Haryana) 75,000

46. Hissar (Haryana) 6,500

H.P.C. 47. Bombay (Maharashtra) 90,000

48. Vizag (Andhra Pradesh) 25,000

49. Khapri (Maharashtra) 34,000

50. Bangalore (Karnataka) 34,000

51. Hyderabad (Andhra Pradesh) 34,000

52. Manglia (Madhya Pradesh) 34,000

53. Surat (Gujarat) 12,000

54. Miraj (Maharashtra) 10,000

55. Vijayawada (Andhra Pradesh) 12,000

56. Calcutta (West Bengal) 12,000

57. Cuttack (Orissa) 3,000

58. Raipur (Madhya Pradesh) 3,000

59. Pune (Maharashtra) 20,000

60. Jodhpur (Rajasthan) 12.500

61. Srinagar (Jammu & Kashmir) 2,000

62. Jammu ( Jammu & Kashmir) 2,000 53 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 54

1 2 3 4

63. Ludhiana (Punjab) 3,000

64. Shakurbasit (Delhi) 15,000

65. Mysore (Karnataka) 12.500

66. Goa (Goa) 12,500

67. Hubli (Karnataka) 12,500

68. Aurangabad (Maharashtra) 12,500

69. Chandrapur (Maharashtra) 12,500

70. Jammu (Jammu & Kashmir) 7,000

71. Snnagar (Jammu & Kashmir) 7,000

72. Khurda Road (Orissa) 25,000

73. Jind (Haryana) 12,500

74. V'Jayawada (Andhra Pradesh) 12,500

75. Rajpur (Madhya Pradesh) 25,000

76. Hyderabad (Andhra Pradesh) 25,000 55 Written Ans wers MAY 2.1989 Written Answers 56

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[ Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Electrification of Village and Installation TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): of Pump Sets In West Bengal (a) A statement I indicating state-wise num- ber of villages electrified and pumpsets 7599. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Will the energised under rural electrification schemes Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: financed by Rural Electrification Corporation during the last three years is given below:- (a) the number of villages electrified and pump sets installed by the Rural Electrifica- (b) Statement II indicating the district tion Corporation during each of the last three wise number of villages electrified and years, State-wise: pumpsets energised under rural electrifica- tion schemes financed by Rural Electrifica- (b) the details of villages electrified and tion Corporation West Bengal is given be- pump sets installed by the Corporation in low:- West Bengal during the last three years, district-wise; and (c) The Planning Commission has fixed a target of electrification of 1500 villages and (c) the number of villages proposed to energization of 12,000 pumpsets under rural be electrified and the number of pump sets to electrification schemes to be financed by be Installed by the Corporation in West Bengal Rural Electrification Corporation during 1989- during 1989-90? 90. 59 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Writt9n AnswBIS 60

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[English] (a) whether the ED Mail carriers are being retrenched on account of revi$ion of Production of Disposable Syrlngs mail arrangements;

7600. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA- (b) if so, how many such employees CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of INDUS- have been retrenched uptill 31 December TRY be pleased to state: 1988;

(a) the number of units m_anufacturing (c) how many of these employees have disposable syrings; been taken back on duty;

(b) whether any representations have (d) whether Government propose to talse been received by Government highlighting steps to ensure safety of job ED employees; the problem faced by these units: and

(c) if so, the details thereof; (e) if so, the details thereof and if not, the reasons therefor? (d) the total annual capacity of these units; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (e) whether domestic production is suf- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). The in- ficient to meet the demand? formation is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (d) and (e). Instructions exist that sur- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- plus incumbents may be kept on the waiting TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) There list and offered alternate appointments as are 11 existing manufacturers. and when available.

(b) and (c). Yes, Sir, Some of the units Cell to Highlight Dangers of Highly have asked for a blanket ban on import of Toxic Organic Chemicals disposable syringes. (d) The total annual capacity of existing 7602. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the units in the organised sector is 1725 lakh Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Nos. and the capacity in the pipe line is 1870 lakh Nos. per annum. (a) whether it is proposed to set up a cell to highlight the dangers and damage caused (e) No specific demand figures are by the use of highly toxic organic chemicals; available. However, as per the assessment made by the financial institutions the esti- (b) If so, the details thereof; and mated demand is 2000 lakh Nos. per annum against the present production of about 200 (c) if not, the reasons therefor? lakh Nos. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Retrenchment of E.D. Mail Carriers J. VENGAl RAO) : (a) to (c) . A Major 7601. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will the Accident Hazard Control Advisory Divisions Ministerof COMMUNICATIONS be pleased has been set up by the Union Ministry of to state: labour in the Central labour Institute, 71 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 72

Bombay with Major Accident Hazards Con- (c) To meet the target of coal produc- trol Cells at Calcutta Kanpur and Madras. A tion,. Coal India Limited expects to operate a part of this Division, a Data Bank on haz- 14 sets of long-wall mining equipment by ardous substances chemicals and installa- 1989-90. It ha been tentatively estimated tions, major accidents, specialists in major that in orderto meet the production targets in accidents hazards control etc. is also being the future, 20 to 25 sets of such equipment set up by that Ministry. Further, in order to have to be added during the Eighth Plan implement the various provisions of the period and 30 to 35 sets during the Ninth Environment (Protection) Act, 1986 cover- Plan Period. In addition Board and Pillar ing hazardous substances and management workings will also be mechanised by use of of chemical accidents, the UniQn Ministry of mechanical leaders. 'Environment and Forests has also taken various steps, namely, setting up of a Haz- Manufacture of Light Commercial ardous Substances Management Division; Vehicles framing of rules for regulating chemicals during all stages of manufacture and han- 7604. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: Will dling; preparation of a Crises Management the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Plan to deal with chemical emergencies; state: constitution of Central Crises Group; and issuance of guidelines tathe States for prepa- (a) the names of the companies produc- ration of crises management plans. ing light commercial vehicle with foreign collaboration and the number of vehicles Long Wall Method of Underground Coal produced by each company during the last Mining three years, year-wise;

7603. SHRI SANATKUMAR MANDAL: (b) whether any of these companies Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to have sought permission forthe production of state: passenger cars; and

(a) whether the efficiency of the mecha- (c) if so, the policy of Government in this nised long wall method of underground coal regard? mining has been tried in the country; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE: (b) if so, the result thereof; and DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (c) the action plan, if any, evolved as a TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) A long-term a strategy for mechanisation of statement is given below. elLs underground mines to achieve its targetted coal production? (b) and (c). The automobile industry has been broadbanded. As such, any manufac- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI turer having a broad-banded licence for the VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). There are in manufacture of 4-wheeled vehicles can take all 9 sets of long wall mining equipment in up the manufacture of passenger car also Coal India Limited. At present 2 sets are within the approved licensed capacity. undergoing majoroverhaul.The remaining 7 However, if they need any foreign collabora- sets are contributing about 1.5 million ton- tion, they must apply to the Government for nes to coal production per year. approval of the collaboration. 73 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answ91S 74 ~ .c - ~ ...... co ..... J ~ N I0) ~ ~ ..... fJ i .. ~ ·c ::J -,:) .~ ~

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Plants Run by Union carbide India Ltd. (b) Does not arise.

7605. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: PartiCipation of Staff of Madras T.V. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Kendra In T.V. Programmes state: 7607. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minis- (a) the number of plants run by Union ter of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- Carbide India Limited in the country and their ING be pleased to state: locatio; (a) whether the staff of the Madras T. V. (b) the details of items being manufac- Centres are given opportunities in the T.V. tured by Union Carbide; Programmes there;

(c) whether the raw material used in (b) if so, the reasons therefor; ...those plants is being imported and if so, the amount involved; (c) whether any remuneration is paid to these staff members for taking part in the (d) whether the products of Union Car- programmes; bide are also being exported and jf so, the value of the items exported annually; and (d) if so, the details thereof; and

(e) whetherthe Union Carbide India Ltd. (e) the steps taken or proposed to dis- has closed down certain plants and if so, the courage this practice? details thereof? THE MIN ISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRt H.K.L. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- BHAGAT): (a) and (b). Duties of some cate- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to(e). gories of staff involve participation in Door- The info~rmation is being collected and will be darshan programmes. laid on the table of the House. (c) to (e). Since the staff members take Housing Pool Scheme for Public Sector part in T.V. Programmes in the course of Employees their duties, no extra remuneration is paid to them. 7606. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Depicting of Women Throuah Media state: 7608. SHAI PARASRAM BHARDWAJ: (a) whether Government propose to Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND formulate a housing pool scheme for central BROADCASTING be pleased to state: public sector employees, and (a) whether the Indian women is de- (b) if so, the details thereof? picted in the cinema, commercial advertise- ments and other media in a manner com- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI pletely ignoring the dignity and values at- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) No, Sir. tached to her in society: and 77 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written AnsW9rs 78

(b) whether Government have consid- ment below. ered the desirability of changing the time of advertisement regarding 'Famify Welfare' (b) Upto the Annual LPG Marketing particularly in the evening and to telecast jt Plan 1988-89, Oil Companies have planned as some late hours? 34 new LPG distributorships in the existing as well 16 new towns of Andhra Pradesh. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- STATEMENT TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) So, far as Doordarshan pro- The names of towns/cities in Andhra grammes (including sponsored serial and Pradesh provided with LPG facility commercial advertisements) and AIR pro- grammes are concerned, due consideration SI.No. Location is given to the desirable value systems, such as dignity of women, in projection over the 1 2 electronic media. They are guided by the guidelines to the official media and the re- 1. Vijayawada spective commercial code for broadcasting/ telecasting. Films are certified by the Central 2. Masulipatnam Board for Film Certification. As far as private media are concerned, they are governed by 3. Gudiwada the ordinary law of the land. 4. Nandigama (b) In consultation with the nodal Minis- try of Health and Family Welfare, Door- 5. Ibrahimpatnam darshan telecasts spots of family welfare at prime time as a priority social campaign. On 6. AIR, advertisement relating to family welfare devices are broadcast after 8.00 P.M. 7. Tenali

LPG Facility in Andhra Pradesh 8. Narasaraopet

7609. SHRI T. BALA GOUD: Will the 9. Macherla Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 10. Sattanpalli

(a) the names of towns/cities in Andhra 11. Ongole Pradesh provided with cooking gas facility so far; and 12. Chirala

(b) the number of towns/cities likely to 13. MarkaolJr be provided with this facility during the re- maining period of the current plan? 14. Kandukllr

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 15. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTI): (a) The required information is given in the state- 16. Sriharikota 79 Written Answers MAY 2.1989 Written Answ9fS 80

1 2 1 2

17. Chittoor 40. Rajamundry

18. Thirupathi 41. Bhimavaram

19. Madanapalli 42. Tanuk

20. Punganur 43. Palakole

21 Cuddapah 44. Tadepalligudem

22. prodattur 45.

23. Yerraguntla 46. Secunderabad

24. Miriyalguda 47. Ramagundam

25. Vijayapuri 48. Karimnagar

26. 49. Jagtiyal

27. Khammam 50. Nizamabad

28. Palavoncha 51.

29. Palamaner 52. Bodhan

30. Bapatla 53. Godavarikhani

31. Jaggayapet 54. R~maknshnapuram

32. Tiruvuru 55. Dundigal

33. Vettapalam 56. Koratla

34. Vizag 57. Mancherial

35. Salur 58. Sircilla

36. Vijayanagaran 59. Tandur

37. Anakapalli 60. Shankarapalli

38. Ukkunagaram 61. Karankote

39. Kakinada 62. Kurnoal 81 Writt9n Answ9rs VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written AnsW9fS 82

1 2 1 2

63. Adoni 86. Narsapur

64. Anantapur 87. Srungavarapukota

65. Tadpatri 88. Dhone

66. Rayadurg 89. Armoor

67. Guntakkal 90. Chintalpudi

68. Adilabad 91. Kanigiri

69. Uravakonda 92. Machilipatnam

70. Peddapalli 93. Amalapuram

71. Bhainsa 94. Nellore

72. Mahabubnagar 95. Hyderabad/Secunderbad

73. Wanaparthy 96. Ramachandrapuram

74. Narayanpet 97. Kaghaznagar

75. Gooty 98. Cadwal

76. Kadiri 99. Sadasivpet

77. 100. Kothagudem

78. Bellampally 101. Manuguru

79. Kamareddy 102. Butchirajpalem

80. Medak 10~. Nirmal

81. Sangareddy 104. Siddipet

82. Zaheerabad 105. Mehboobabad

83. Nalogooda 106. Peddanandipedu

84. Suryapet 107. Munnangi

85. Ponnur 108. Guggirara 83 Written Answers MAY 2.198.9 Written AnsW91S 84

1 2 1 2

109. Vuyyuru 132. Kothavalsa

110. Kandipadu 133. Maruteru

111. Nuzvid 134. Mummudivar'am

112. Managalagiri 135. Narsipatnam

113. Rapalle 136. Palasa

114. Chilakaluripet 137. Palakonda

115. Patamata 138. Peddapuram

116. Yemmiganur 139. Pitha-puram

117. Nandyal 140. Poduru

118. Srisailam 141. Rayavaram

119. Hindupur 142. Razole

120. Dharmavaram 143. Samalkot

121. Vinukonda 144. Srikakulam

122. Atmakur 145.

123. Nagarkurnool 146. Velamanchili

124. Bhadrachalam 147. Jangareddygudem

125. Akiveedu 148 Gajuwaka

126. Achanta 149. Nidadavol

127. Anapar1hy 150. Parva1ipuram

128. Chodavaram 151. Beemunipatnam

129. Dowleshwaram 152. Bobbili

130. G.R. Nagaram 153. Rajam

131. Kothapeta 154. Tuni 85 Written Answ9rs VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 86

1 2 MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) There is de~ 155. Kovvur crease in capacity utilisation in some areas like foundry but there has been substantial 156. Chipurupallj increase in other areas like CT Boxes, DP Boxes. 157. Sompeta (b) No, Sir. 158. Srikalahasthi (c) Does not arise 159. Venkatagiri (d) Some new items like CD Cabinet 160. Sullurpeta Payphones have been taken up for produc- tion during 1989-90. 161. Kavali Production of Alcohol From Sugarcanel 162. Puttur Molasses

163. Vicarabad 7611. SHRI V. SREENIVASAPRASAO; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Work Load In Telecom Factory, Cal- refer to the reply given on 16th August, 1988 cutta to Unstarred Question No. 2783 regarding production of alcohol from sugarcane or 7610. SHR I SATISH CHANDRA SINHA molasses and state: : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to refer to the reply given on 28th (a) the detaIls of information collected March, 1989to Unstarred Question No. 3699 so far; regarding work·load in Telecom Factory, Calcutta and state: (b) whether a number of State Govern- ments are still violating the Government di- (a) whether there has been sharp de- rective dated 19 November, 1975 which crease in the capacity utilisation of the fac- prohibits creation of additional capacity for tory during the last two years; distillation or brewing of alcoholic drinks;

(b) whether a large nllmber of workers (c) if so, the details of licences issued by have paid wages without regular jobs in the various States till 31 March, 1989; factory during the above period; (d) whether some of the new distillation (c) if so, the facts and details thereof; factories have also been given C.O.B. li- and cences;

(d) when the production of new prod- (e) the steps being contemplated to ucts will actually be taken in hand by the stop such factories from undertaking further factory management for full capacity utilisa- production of alcoholic drinks? tion? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (c). As per infor- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mation received from the State Government 87 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 88 so far, a total number of 33 licences have (b) whether the Chief General Manager, been issued by Bihar (1) Haryana (1) J & K Orissa TeleCom. Circle had submitted pro- (4), Karnataka (18), Madhya Pradesh (4), posals for creation of new Telecom Sub West Bengal (1) and Goa (4) upto Decem- Divisions for Balasore and Bhadrak in Orissa; ber, 1988. (c) if so, when and the details thereof; (b) Yes, Sir. Some State Government and have issued licences for manufacture of potable alcohol in violation of the ban orders (d) the action taken thereon by the issued by the Government off India in No- Ministry and the time by which these sub- vember, 1975, as they hold a legal view that divisions will start functioning? they are competent to do so. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) No, Sir. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS(SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The norms for (e) and (f). Do not arise. establishing Telecom. Sub-Divisions are given in the Statement I & II below:- Telecom. Sub Divisions in Balasore and Bhadrak, Orissa (b) Yes, Sir. (c) and (d). Proposal for creation of 7612. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Will Phones Engineering Sub-Division atBalasore the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be and for Telegraph Engineering Sale Division pleased to state: at Bhadrak were received in March 89 and are being examined. The post of SOOs for (a) whether any criteria and minimum the Sub-Divisions will be sanctioned if found work load has been prescribed for the crea- justified keeping in view of the existing ban tion of Telecom. Sub Division if so, the de- on creation of new posts and need for econ- tails thereof; omy in expenditure. 89 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Writt9n Answ81S 90

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[ Trans/~tionJ [English]

Outstanding Amount of KVle Telecommunicatiqn, aC11l ies During 1~9f~

7613. SHRIMATI VIDYAVATICHATUR· ~j" VEDt Will the Minister of. INDUSTRY be 7614.SHRISYFLl'~~BUDDIN:W#1 pleased to state: the Minister of Y.:.Q.~'r:<4tJNIC~T'ONS be pleased to refer to t~~iJ~ gi~n on 11 April, (a) the namss of the institutions against 1989 to Unstarreck'Q~l stion No. 5660. re· whom the amount of the Khadi and Village' garding telephone7;,t. .ility iT'!> Gram Pan- Industries Commission is outstanding for a chayats and stats-" ~,.. ' very long time and it has not been possible to recover it; (a) .the averag~ :e&ti'mated population covered by each he~ago'l as on 31.3.1989; (b) the details of such . outstanding amount up t01988; and (b) the total number of hexagon pro- vided with telecom facilities during 1988·89; (c) the steps being taken to recover it? (c) the total number of hexagon pro- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE grammed for provision of telecom. facilities DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· during 1989·90 State-wise; and OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS· TRY (SHRI fIil. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (d) the district -wiss breatt.up for the (b). Names of the Institutions and amount State of Bihar? outstanding against each as on 31.3.1988 are given in the statement laidon the Table THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of the House [Placed in Library See No. LT· MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 7824·Al89] GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The average estimated papulation c~tv~dby aaeh hexa- gon is 13,589 as per 198'1 census. (c}Kha

STATEMENT

Target for LOPTs During 1989-90 ------SI No ClfclelState

1 2 3

1 Andhra Pradesh 48

2. Assam 132

3 Bihar 286

4 GUJarat 151 Dadra Nagar Havel! 3 Daman O,U 1

5 Haryana 91

6. Himachal Pradesh 152

7. J & K 78

8. Karnataka 152

9 Kerala L Deep Island

10 307

11 Maharashtra 300

Goa

12 North East Arunachal 15

Manlpur 38

Meghalaya 30

Mlzoram 27

Nagaland 37

Tnpura 5

13 Orissa 160 111 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written AnSW81S 112

1 2 3

14. Punjab 92

15. Rajasthan 356

16. Tamil Nadu 59

Pondicherry

17. Uttar Pradesh 308

18. West Bengal 156

A & N Islands 2

Sikkim 5

Total 30000

Telecommunication Services in Andhra (c) Steps taken during 1988-89 for fur- Pradesh ther improvement are as follows:-

7615. SHRI MANIK REDDY: (i) Customer~riented training of SHRI V. TULSIRAM: staff;

Will the Ministerot COMMUNICATIONS (ij) Upgradation of local network by be pleased to state: replacement of faulty instruments heavy overhead alignment by (a) whether Government are aware of cables and rehabilitation of dis- the deterioration in telecommunication serv- tribution poi nts; ices in Andhra Pradesh; (iii) Introduction of International and (b) if so, the factories responsible there- National Subscriber dialling for for; and 70 more stations;

(c) the steps taken to improve the tele- (iv) Computerisation of Directory communication services in Andhra Pradesh? Inquiry in Hyderabad, Vijaya- wada , Guntur, Bhimawaram, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Eluru, Ten ali. Gudivada and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Machlipatnam; GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) No, Sir. Tele- com Services in Andhra Circle have been (v) Computerisation of telephone showing improvement. billing at Visakhapatnam; and

(b) Does not arise. (vi) Fault recording computerisation 113 Writt9n Answ91S VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Writt9n AnSW81S 114

at Hyderabad. Eluru. Nizamabad Tribes; and Guntur. (b) if so, the details thereof and if not, the Postal Agencies In Andhra Pradesh reasons therefor;

7616. SHAI S. PAlAKONDRAYUDU: (c) whether any quota for dealership Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be has been or proposed to be fixed for Sched- pleased to state: uled CasteslScheduled Tribes; if so, whether such deaJerships will be allotted to them on (a) the total number of postal agencies priority basis in future; and at present in Andhra Pradesh; (d) the details of the conditions pro- (b) whether there is any proposal to posed orfixed in allotting dealership 10 them? increase the number of postal agencies in rural areas during 1989-90; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Applicants for dealer- (c) if so. the details thereof; and ship are not required to indicate their caste- status, and therefore. the information in this (d) if not, the reasons ther~for? regard is not available with Maruti Udyog Limited. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (d) to (d). Appointment of dealers is a GIRIDHARGOMANGO): (a) At present there commercial matter decided by the Board of are 5 Licensed Postal .Agents LPA's and 89 Maruti Udyog Limited on the basis of appli- agents licensed to sell postage stamps and cations received after an open advertise- stationery on commission basis functioning ment and evaluation of capabilities of indi- in the State. viduals to-

(b) to (d). As a matter of policy, with (i) provide a standard of customer effect from 13.7.1987. no new licenses are service in accordance with Maruti being issued for LPA's However licenses to policies; sell postage stamps and stationery on com- mission basis are issued on the basis of (ii) maximise the market share; and applications r~ceived and subject to the prescribed conditions. No annual targets are (iii) project and develop the highest laid1down. possible image of the Company.

[ Translation] [English] Dealership to Scheduled Castes! Scheduled Tribes by Marutl Udyog Ltd. Electrification of Villages

7617. SHAI GANGA RAM: Will the 7618. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Will Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: the Minister of ENERGY be pJeased to state:

(a) whether the Maruti Udyog Limited has given any dealerships to the persons (a) the percentage of villages electrified belonging to Scheduled CasteslScheduled so far State-wise ; and 115 Written Answers MAY 2.1989 Written Answers 116

(b) the target fixed for 1989-90 Statel (a) Statement-I indicating State/Union Terri- Union Territory-wise; tory-wise percentage of villages electrified as on 28.2.89 is given below.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Statement-II indicating StatelUnion DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Territory-wise targets fixed for village electri- TRYOF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): fication during 1989-90 is given balow.

STATEMENT-.

Statewise percentage of vii/ages electrified as on 28.2.89

SI.No. States % age villages electrified

1 2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 97.7

2. Arunachal Pradesh 34.5

3. Assam 85.9

4. Bihar 63.5

5. Goa 100.0

6. GUJarat 100.0

7. Haryana 100.0

8. HImachal Pradesh 100.0@

9. Jammu & Kashmir 93.5

10. Karnataka 97.8

11. Kerala 100.0

12. Madhya Pradesh 77.0

13. Maharashtra 98.6

14. Manipur 49.5

~ 15. Meghala~/a 37.4

16. Mlzoram 38.7 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answ91S 118

1 3 17. Nagaland 98.7 .' 18. Qritsa 62.1

19. ,PO!'jab 100.0

20. ~sthan 69.2

21. _im 75.0 ) 22. Tamil Nadu 99.~

23~ Tripura 51.4

24. Uttar Pradesh 69.3

25. West Bengal 64.1 _._ ---_._...... _...... _ Union Territories

1. fA & N Islands 92.7

2. Chandigarh 100.0

3. o &. N Haveli 100.0

4. Delhi 100.0

5. Daman & DIU 100.0

6. Lakshdweep 100.0

7. Pondicherry 100.0

@ - Achievement as per 1971 census.

STATEMENT-II

State .. ise IUT wise targets for vii/age electrification during the year 1989-90

SI.No. StatelU. Ts. Target for village electrification

2 3

1. Andhra Prades~ 650

2. Arunachal Pradesh 135 119 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 120

1 2 3

3. Assam 1703

4. Bihar 2300

5. Goa 40W

6. Gujarat

7. Haryana

8. Himachal Pradesh

9. Jammu & Kashmir 100

10. Karnataka 30

11. Kerala

12. Madhya Pradesh 2700

13. Maharashtra 150·

14. Manipur 250

15. Meghalaya 230

16. Mizoram 65

17. Nagaland

18. Orissa 785

19. Punjab

20. Rajasthan 1010

21. Sikkim 38

22. Tamil Nadu

23. Tripura 160 24 Uttar Pradesh 2365 25. West Bengal 1560

Total (States) 14231 121 Written Answets VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written AnSWBIS 122

1 2 3

1. A & N Islands

2. Chandigarh

3. Oadra & Nagar Haveli

4. Oaman& Diu

5. Delhi

6. lakshadweep

7 .. Pondicherry

Total (U.Ts.)

Total All India 14231

W-Wadas

• 1000/0 village electrific.ation has since been achieved. Power Theft In Salnlk Farms In during the period 29.4.88 to 28.4.89. Khanpur, Deihl (b) Aa:ording to DESU, two raids were 7619. SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA: Will conducted in the area-one on 19.5.88 and the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: the other on 3.3.89. All the 7 cases have been reported by DESU to the police. (a) the number of cases of power theft de'ected in Sainik Farms in Khanpur, Delhi (c) No repeated case of power theft has du~ing the last one year; been detected by DESU.

(b) the number of raids conducted and (d) Surpris~ raids are carried out by the F.I.Rs lodged with the Police; DESU from time to time to check the case of power thefts etc. (c) the number of thefts repeated and the action taken in such cases; and S.T.D. Facility a.tw.. n Deihl and Jod. In KftOnJhar District Orl_ (d) the preventive measures taken to stop recurrence of such cffances? 7620. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state: DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE.MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRJ KALPNATH RAI): (a) whether there is any proposal to (a) According to DESU, 7 cases of power introduce S. T.O. facility between Delhi and theft were detected in the Salnik Farms Jod. in Keonjhar district of Orissa; and 123 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 124

(b) if so, whether the same will be pro· Centre (SENDOC) established at the Na- vided during 1989·90? tionallnstitute of Smalllndustry and Exten· sian Training (NISIET) at Hyderabad for the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE last th ree years? MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRtDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). There THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE is no such proposal at present. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Contribution of SENDoe (NISIET), TRY (SHRt M. ARUNACHALAM): A state- Hyderabad ment indicating the contributions made by the Small Industry Information Documenta- 7621. SHRt A.J.V.B. MAHESWARA tion Centre (SENDOe) established at RAO: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be NISIET, Hyderabad during the last three pleased to state the contribution made by the years from April 86 to March,'89 is given Small Industry Information Documentation below. STATEMENT

The main functions of SENDOC are to procure, process, store, retrieve & disseminate documents & information in the field of Small medium industry for the use of entrepreneurs, industrialists, researchers, consultants and development agencies like Industries' comission- erates corporations, Fi"anciallnstitutions etc. Apart from answering technical enquiries from all over the Country, SENDOe also brings out regularly four journals dealing with Economics & Development, Industry & Technology, Management & Behavioural Sciences and Appropri- ate Technology. It also collects area literature, trade literature, institutional literature, project profiles & regulatory information.

t. Acquisitions: Apart from these, SENDOC provides reading material for all faculty & Participants of aU national and international courses. It also continuously provides special guidance on individual technologies to entrepreneurs of the Institutes EDP courses. " 1986-87 1987-88 1989-89 i) Books & Reports 1,626 619 683 ii} Spacial Publications 458 460 452

II. Information Processiflg Work: Since inception, the emphasis has been to scar. and select the relevant items of information fron! periodicals & reports to prepare abstracts, and index them to form a part of a Centra/Information File for easy retrieval of information. 1986·87 1987-88 1988-89 i) Periodical issues scanned 6,000 6,000 5,600· ii) Abstracts prepared 4,200 4,350 3,800 iii) Items Indexed 4,750 4,800 4,250 iv) Newspapers Scanned (22 Newspapers per day) 7,200 7.200 7,200 v) Newspapers Clippings Prepared 4,200 4,000 3,000

* The slight reduction is because of weedings out of some periodicals & more rigorous standards for judging what is relevant. 125 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answets 126

1If. Information Dissemination Worlc

i) Technical Enauiries:

Answered by post 600 632 656

in person 1,000 1,200 1,350

ii) Bibliographies supplied on request. 14 4

iii) Publication of Abstracting Periodicals

SENDoe Bu"etin Part I : Industry & Technology (monthly)

Part II : Economics & Development (monthly)

Part III: Management & Behavioral Science ( monthly)

Appropriate Technology Documentation Bullet-in (Bi-moilthly)

iv) Xerox copies of literature 1986:-87 1987-88 1988-89

supplied 2,400 3,500 1,500

iv). Training Programmes:

i) National:

i) Intensive Training Programme on Abstracting & Index- ing (July 7-18, 1986)

ii) Information Storage and Retrieval Systems (ISRS) (Janu- ary 12-30, 1987)

iii) tntens;v9 Training Programme on Abstracting & Index- ing (29th June- 10 July. 1987)

iv) Intensive Training Programme on Abstracting Indexing (27th June - 8th July, 1987)

\I) ISAS Programme (16th January 1988 - 3rd Feb 1989).

2. Training Programmes Conducted at Guwahati (Assam) Branch Institute for North Eastern Region):

i)ISRS (1986) 127 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 128

ii)ISRS (1987)

iii)ISAS (1989)

3. Sponsored rrailling Programmes

i)ISRS for Officers of DIC, A.P. (20, June-8 July 1988)

ii)Organisation and Management Programme for Functional Managers of OIC, Assam, (18th July - 29 July, 1988)

4. Intemational Training Programmes

i)ISRS (September - November, 1986)

ii)ISRS (September - November, 1987)

iii)ISRS (September- November, 1988)

V. Special Projects:

1986 i)Techno-Economic Report on Rigid P. V.C. Pipes, 70 p. 1986.

ii)Union Catalogue of Product Profiles (Computer Produced)

1987 New Product Finder: Computerised i.,dex to 774 product profiles.

1988 A Book of Abstracts & Literature Review on Transfer of Technology: Project Sponsored by lOBI. March, 1988- (Continuing) .

LPG Bottling plants In Karnataka THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROL EUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHAt BRAMDUTI): (a) There is 7622. SHAI H.G. AAMULU: Will the no proposal to set up any new bottling plant Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL in Karnataka during the current plan period; GAS be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise'in view of (8) above.

(a) whether there is any proposal to ::,et Appointment of Statutory Auditor. In up any new bottling plants in Karnataka, Public Undertakings In Kamataka particularly, in Raichur district during the current Plan period; and 7623. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (b) if so, the details thereof? state: 129 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written AnswetS 130

(a) the number Qf Karnataka State (b) if so, the details thereof? Public undertakings which have requested the Company Law Board for the appoint- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE mentof Statutory auditors for audit these two MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NAllJ- years accounts; .RAl GAS (SHAI BRAHM DUTT): (a) and (b). Oil & Natural Gas Commission is evalu- (b) if so, whether the Company Law ating the proposals for exploration in Malay- Board propose to give permission for taking sia on its own as well as in collaboration with up audit work of these Public Undertakings other oil companies. Proposals for overseas by the statutory auditors for two years' ac- exploration are examined by Government counts simultaneously; after taking into account all relevant factors including the prospectively of the areas (c) the number of requests for other available for exploration and availability of Karnataka State Public Undertakings pend- resources. ing with the Company Law Board in this regard; and Gas Baaed Waate Heat Recovery Plant In Maharashtra (d) the maximum time likely to be taken to appoint statutory auditors? 7625. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (a) whether the third unit of the gas OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- based waste heat recovery plant in Mahar- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Under ashtra has been techno-economically ap- Section 619 (2) of the Companies Act. 1956, proved by the Central Electricity Authority as the auditors of a Government Company are well as the Planning Commission; appointed or reappointed by the Company Law Board on the advice of Comptroller & (b) if not, whether the proposal is held Auditor General of India. The Comptroller & up for want of availability of gas on c;ustained Auditor General of India has not recom- basis; and mended appointment of auditors for a period of two years at a time in respect of any (c) the steps taken to confirm the availa- Karnataka State Government Company bility of gas to the unit? during 1988-89. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) to (d). Do not arise in view of (a) DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- above. TRY OF ENERGY (SHAI KAlPNATH RAt): (a) to (c). The proposal of the Maharashtra .Jotnt Venture for Oil Exploration State ElectriCity Board for the installation of the third Waste Heat Recovery Unit at the Uran Gas Turbine Station has been technO'- 7624. SHRI H.A. DORA: Will the Min- economically cleared by the Central Elec- ister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS tricity Authority. Commitment of gas for the be pleased to state: proposed unit has not been made to the Maharashtra State Electricity Board at pres- (a) whether India propose to launch a ent. The proposal could be processed for joint venture for oil exploration in Malaysia; investment decision when the availability of and gas is confirmed. 131 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 132

Wage Revision of Coal min. Workers JBCCI and the terms have been duly cleared by the Government. 7626. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: PROF. RAMKRISJ-tNA MORE: Production of Polymers, Chemicals and SHRI BANWARt lAL PURO- Fibre. HIT: SHR1MATI BASAVARAJES- 7627. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES· WARI: WARI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be SHRI H.A. DORA: pleased to state:

Will the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased (a) whether Union Government pro- to state: pose to prescribe higher capacities for pro- duction of polymers, chemicals and fibres; (a) whether some major decisions were and taken at the last meeting of the Steering Group of the Joint Bipartite Committee for (b) if so, the details thereof? Coal Industry on the revision of wages of the coal mine workers as reported in the 'Hin- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRJ dustan Times' dated 2 April, 1989; J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). Minimum economic scale of operations have been (b) if so, the details thereof; fixed for various petrochemical plants. 11 is envisaged to update these from time to time, (c) whether the MOU between Govern- depending upon techno-economic Consid- ment and coal mine workers has since been erations. settled and signed; and Composition of Colr Board (d) when the final decision will be an- nounced? 7628. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Willthe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). TheSteering (a) the existing composition of the Coir Group of the JBCCI in its meeting, held on Board with full particulars of its members; 28th and 29th March. 1989, in which ~ere represented representatives of both the (b) whether there is no representative management and the Central Trade Unions, of the co-operative sector, public sector and came to agreed decisions on most of the trade unions of the coir industry in Kerala on major demands of the workers relating to the Coir Board; and increase in their wages, transport subsidy, house rent allowance etc., but issues, like, (b) if so, the reasons therefor? increase in ceiling of gratuity amount, life cover scheme, difficulty allowance etc. are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE yet to be finalised. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (c) and (d). A new wage agreement TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The between the management of the coal com- composition of the Board is given in the panies and the representatives of the coal statement below. workers wlll be signed only after all the demands have been finally settled on the (b) and (c). The Coir Board has been re- 133 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Writtsn Answsrs 134 constituted as per the provisions of the Coir 11 . Shri Radhakrishna Adiga. Industry Act, 1953 and the Coir Industry Rules, 1954. The representation is given to 12. Smt. G. Kamala Devi. the categories specified in the .said Act and Rules whi~h do not provide for nomination (e) Members of Parliament. from these categories as such. Neverthe- less, some of the Members of the present 13. Shri N. Dennis Coir Board are reported to have been asso- (Lok Sabha) ciated with coir co-operatives, trade unions etc. 14. Shri I. Rama Rai (Lok Sabha) STATEMENT 15. Shri John. F. Fernandes In addition to the Chairman, the compo- (Rajya Sabha) sition of the Coir Board is as under:- (1) Governments of Principal coconut (a) Growers of coconuts and produc- growing States: ers of husks and coir yarn. 16. Representative of the Govern- 1. Shri V.R. Prasad. ment of Kerala.

2. Shr; V.K. Laxmanan. 17. Director of Industries and Com- merce, Government of Tamil 3. Vacant. Nadu.

(b) Persons engaged in the production 18. Representative of the Govern- of husks coir and coif yarn and in ment of Karnataka. the manufacture of coir products. 19. Commissioner of Indsutries, 4. Shri Thachadi Prabhakaran. Government of Andhra Pradesh.

5. Shri Kaviad Olvakara Panicker. 20. Representative of the Govern- ment of Andaman and Nicobar 6. Smt. Kuntala Kumari Acharya. Islands.

(c) Manufacturers of coir products. (g) Such other persons or class of persons who in the opinion of the 7. Shri Jagan Phillipose. Central Government ought to be represented on the Board. 8. Shri Peter Alphonse. 21 . Representative of the Integrated 9. Shri B. Byrappaji. Finance Wing of the Department of Industrial Development, Min- (d) Dealers in coir, coir yarn and coir istryof Industry, New Delhi. products including both exporters and internal traders. 22. Representative of the Depart- ment of Industrial Development, 10. Shri Ravi Karunakaran. Ministry of Industry. New Delhi. 135 Written Answers MAY 2.1989 Written AnsMHI 136

23. Chairman, THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY Coconut Development Board. AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- eochin, TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. Kerala. BHAGAT): (a) Requests have been re- ceived from some Newspaper Organisa- Export Earnings of Private and Public tions for setting up one branch of the office of Sector Companies Registrar of Newspapers for India in every State. 7629. DR. DIGVIJAY SINH: Will the Minister of Industry be pleased to refer to the (b) A scheme to decentralise the work reply given on 4 April, 1989 to Unstarred )f Registrar of Newspapers for India by Question No. 4771 regarding investment in upgrading the offices of Registrar of News- public and private sector enterprises and papers for India at Bombay, Calcutta and state the reasons for inverse ratio in the Madras to the level of Regional Offices is investment and export earnings in the public included in the Vllth Plan. Its implementation sector enterprises and private sector? is dependant on the availability of resources.

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Selection of AJ.R. Hindi Specialist for J. VENGAl RAO): Exports by public sector Japan Broadcasting Corporation enterprises and private sector enterprises cannot be diredly proportional ~o their in- 7631. SHRI NIRMAL KHATTRI: Will vestments as the products and services the Ministerof INFORMATION AND BROAD- profile cannot be in the same proportion as CASTING be pleased to state: investments. Not all public sector enterprises are producing goods for exports and the (a) whether All India Radio propose to majority of the enterprises cater to internal conduct a written test for selection of a Hindi demands of the country. Out of about 225 specialist from amongst its staff for second- Central Public Enterprises only 35 are ex- ment to Japan Broadcasting Corporation; porting either their products or services. (b) if so, the details thereof; Branch Oflllces of Registrar Of Newspa- p~" of India In States (c) whether All India Radio had re- quested the Japan Broadcasting Corpora- 7630. SHRI BAlASAHEB VIKHE tion to conduct the test as was done in PATll: Will the Minister of INFORMATION secondment cases for British Broadcasting AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Corporation: and

(a) whether Government have received (d) if not the reasons therefor? any representation from the Indian Newspa- per Society and some newspapers for set- THE MINISTER FOR PARLIAMEN- ting up of one branch of the Registrar of TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- Newspapers office in every State; and FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) and (b). All India Radio has conducted a test to short list suitabl£' (b) if so, whether Government propose candidates for secondment to Japan Broad- to decentralise the work of the Registrar of casting Corporation after circulating the Newspapers of India by setting up such opportunity to all Hindi speaking Stations. All branch offices in each St~·o? tha 21 Amp~:\l8S. wh..") apr~:"!.~ wer9c·~tktd 137 WrlttsfJ AnswelS VAISAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 138 for the test but only 18 appeared for the test. staff in the various aspects of running of retail outlets. (c) Finat selection will be made only by Japan Broadcasting Corporation. TV Relay Centre at Jhalawar, Rajasthan

(d) Does not arise. 7633. SHRI JUJHAR SINGH: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- Assistance to SC/ST Petrol Pump CASTING be pleased to state: Allottee. (a) the reasons for delay in setting up 7632. SHRI R.P. SUMAN: Will the the TV Relay Centre at Jhalawar in Rajast- Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL han; and GAS be pleased to state: (b) the time by which it will be commis- (a) whether any financial assistance is sionod? provided to run the petrol pumps allotted by the Indian Oil Corporation to Scheduled THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY Caste/Scheduled Tribe persons; AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. (b) if so, the details thereof; and BHAGAT): (a) and (b). There has been no delay in establishment of low power TV (c) whether the oil companies have set transmitter at Jhalawar, which was commis- up any institutions to train the dealers be- sioned into service on 27th March, 1989. On longing to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled the contrary, the project was set up in ad- Tribes? vance of the schedule drawn for the pur- pose. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- TV Relay Centres In Karnataka RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) Yes, Sir. 7634. SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- (b) Under the auspices of the Reserve CASTING be pleased to state: Bank of India, a loan scheme exists to pro- vide financi~1 assistance through Public (a) whether there is a demand for Sector Banks to candidates under social setting up new TV relay centres in Karna- objective category including Scheduled taka; and Castes and Scheduled Tribes. Loan ;s pro- vided both for working capital and term loan (b) if so, the details thereof and the requirement upto 750/0 of the total outlay. reaction of Union Government thereto?

(c) Oil companies have not set up any THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY institutions to train their dealers belonging to AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA· SC and ST categories. However, the field TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L staff are involved in training the dealers at BHAGAT): (a) and (b). Requests have been the Retail Outlet sites on a regular basis. received from time to time from the Members of Parliament and the general public for Periodical Training Programmes are establishment of new TV transmitters In also conducted to train the dealer5 and their Karnataka. The exi$ting Doordarshan net- 139 Written AnswefS MAY 2.1989 Written Answers 140 work in the State of Karnataka consisting of under construction. two high powor and 17 low power transmit- ters provides coverage to an estimated 52. -,0/0 (b) to (d). As indigenous electronic population of the State. On completion of the exchange equipment in the size range re- various Seventh Plan schemes, an estimated quired at Balotra was not available, ICP type 66.50/0 population of the State is expected to of equipment was allotted from the year be brought under TV coverage. Extension of 1986-87 to automatise the manual exchange TV service to the remaining uncovered parts at Balotra. The equipment has been ordered of the country including those of Karnataka on MIs ITI Rae Bareli and the supply is can be carried out in a phased manner scheduled to be completed by June, 1989. depending upon the future availability of The automatic exchange of ICP type is likely resources for this purpose. to be commissioned during the year 1990- 91. Further expansion of the exchange to [ Translation] meet the demand has also been planned during Eighth Plan. SEtting up of Electronic Telephone Exchange at Belolre In Rajasthan [English)

7635. SHRI VIRIDHI CHANDER JAIN: Expansion of Telephone Exchange In Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Kerala pleased to state: 7636. SHRI K. MOHAN DAS: Will the (a) whether the building for telephone Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased exchange in the industrial town Balotra of to state: Rajasthan has been constructed; (a) the details of the telephone ex- (b) whether the Department of Tele- changes in Kerala expanded during th'=i last communications has not able to provide three years, district-wise; modern electronictedephonefacility to cope with the demand of people; (b) the District-wise demand for expan- sion at present; and (c) if so. the reasons therefor; and (c) the plan for expansion/modernisa- (d) the time by which a modern elec- tion of the telephone exchanges in Kerala tronic telephone exchange would be pro- during 1989-90? vided there? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). The GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The building is details are givGn as under:

51. No. Name of the District No. of Exchanges Waiting List as on 31st March, 1989

1 2 3 4

1. Trivandrum 22 12390

2. Ouilon 22 6441 141 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 142

1 2 3 4

3. Pathanamitha 19 6028

4. Alleppy 22 5237

5. Konayam 28 12189

6. Idduki 16 16965

7. ErnakuJam 47 3798

8. Trichur 24 11892

9. Palghat 48 4411

10. Malapuram 28 5664

11. C::tlicut 19 11598

12. Wynad 12 1629

13. Gannanore 38 12169

14. Kasargod 39 2612

(c) 19,100 lines are proposed to be Punjab observed a strike on March, 27, added In sWltchmg capacity dUring 1989-90 1989; and about 15000 new connections are pro- posed to be given. Out of total number of 632 (b) whether they have submitted a exchanges 7 are manual exchanges which memorandum to Government for providing are proposed to be autcmatlsed dunng 1989- certain facilities to them; 90. (c) if so, the details thereof; and [ Translation] (d) the action taken or proposed to be Facilities to Small Industries In Punjab taken by Government thereon?

7637. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MOOWALlA: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRJ M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Yes, Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Sir. pleased to state: (b) Yes, Sir. The Punjab Government (a) whether the small industries in have informed that Federation of Associa- 143 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answets 144 tions of Small Scale Industries of India (a) whether the news bulletins in r. (Punjab Chapter) has submitted a Memo- gional languages are broadcast from Delhi randum dated 27.3.1989. on Short Wages;

(c) The Memorandum seeks facilities (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and concessions covering a wide range of items. These include upward revision of (c) whether the audibility of the broad- income tax exemption limit, modification in casts is very low; labour laws applicable to small scale indus- tries, reduction in rate of interest charged by (d) whether it is proposed to broadcast banks and collection charges, withdrawal of the regional news bulletins on Medium Wave; Government of India's Press Note No. 1/89 and dated 18.1.1989, rajsing of Central Excise Exemption limit and enhancement of licens- \f') if not, the reasons therefor? ing limit for the purpose of excise duty, abolition of auxiliary custom duty on Nickel, THEMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY adequate supply of Iron and Steel items etc. AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. (d) Government have been receiving BHAGAT): (a) and (b). The Central regional similar suggestions from Industries Associa- language news bulletins are broadcast from tions/smail scale units from time to time. In Delhi on short-wave frequencies for net- taking decisions, various aspects like availa- working by AIR Stations as these are re- bility of resources, needs of other important quired to be relayed by the regional stations sectors of the economy etc. have to be kept on their medium wave channels; in view. (c) No, Sir; Additional limn to the extent of 50% of the existing limits enjoyed by units in Punjab (d) The regJonallanguage news bulle- has been extended upto 31.3.90. The na- tins are already being broadcast on medium tional credit under MODVAT scheme at 5% wave by the respective reoional stations of has been extended beyond 31.3.89. The AIR. Government have enacted liThe labour laws (Exemption From Furnishing Returns and (e) Does not arise. Maintaining Registers by Certain Establish- ments) Act, 1988"to ease the situation in this Larae/Small Scale Industrial Un"sl" regard. The list of items reserJed for exclu- Orissa sive manufacture in the sma" scale sector is kept under constant review. 7639. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state:

[English] (a) the number 01 large and small scale industrial units in Orissa as on 31 March, Broadcasting of Regional News Bulletin 1989 and the total number of workers en- on Medium Waves gaged therein;

7638. SHRI V.S. VIJAYRAGHAVAN: (b) the number of sick industries in Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND Orissa alongwith reasons therefor and work- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: ers retrenched; and 145 Written Answers VA1SAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) W""9n Answers 148

(c) the total Government and bank (a) whethertne Nag Vidarbha Chamber money invotved i" these units? of Commerce (NVCC) has complained about the functioning of the local telephones in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Nagpur; and DEPARTMENT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (b) if so, the the steps taken [0 improve (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) As per the the telephone services in that city? information given by the Government of Orissa as on 31 st March, 1989, there were THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 200 industrial units in the organised sector, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI employing 64,538 worksrs and 33,466 units GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). The in the small scale sector, employing 2,48,692 information is being collected and will be laid workers. on the Table of the House.

(b) and (c). The data on sick industrial Sick Industrial Units units is collected by R.B.1. and as per the latest information available from them. there 7641. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR YADAV: were 10 sick industrial units in the organised Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to sector and 7,229 in the small scale sector as state: at the end of June, 1987, the amount out- standing being Rs. 23.84 crores and Rs. (a) whether the number of sick indus- 32.50 crores respectively. trial units are increasing very rapidly;

A number of causes, both eyternal and (b) if so, the number of sick Industrial internal are responsible for industrial sick- units in 1980, 1984 and 1988 with the out- nass in the country. Among the majorcauses standing bank dues against them, year-wise are faulty project planning, management separately; and deficiencies, inefficient financial control, diversion of resources, inadequate attention (c) the number of workers went out of to R&D, obsolescenc~ of technology and job as a result thereof, year-wise? machinery, poor industrial relations, change in market demand, cost and scarcity of raw THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE materials and other inputs and infrastr:.Jctu- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- ral constraints. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and Telephone Service in Nagpur (b). Data on sick industrial units in the country is collected by R.B.I. and the latest 7640. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: data available is only upto June 1987. The Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be data in respect of sick industrial l;nits for pleased to state: 1980, 1984 and 1987 are as follows:

Total Number of sick units Amount Outstanding (Rs. in crorss]

December 1980 24550 1808.66

December 1984 93282 3638.39

June 1987 159283 4222.69 147 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 148

(c) Such data is not being Centrally constituting TCll a public sector undertak- maintained. ing under the Ministry of Communications are to provide consultancy and turnkey proj- [ Translation] ect services in all areas of telecommunica- tion~ in India and friendly countries abroad.

Constitution of Satellite Communication (b) G.M. Satellite Project and G.M. Data Project .Clrcle, Remote Area Business Network organisation do not take contract Message Network Circle and T.C.I.L. work~. The work carried out by these organi- sations for other Government Departments 7642.DA.PAABHATKUMARMISHRA: and parties are carried out on contribution Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be basis against advance dsposits as per de- pleased to state: partmental procedures. Tell do undertake contract works. (a) the aims and objects of constituting the Satellite Communication Projects Circle. (c) Tell was set up in 1978 with an Remote Area Business Message Network equity of Rupees. three million. Right from Circle and Tell and the constitution thereof; the first year of its operations Tell has been making profits and earning substantial for- (b, whether these organisation take eign eXChange for the country. The Com- conttacts to provide 1elecomml'nication fa- pany finances its activities from its own inter- cility; nal resources. The information for G.M. SatellIte Project is given in statement V be- (c) the funds given to these organisa- low for Departmental Works and as per tions for the various projects and progress statement VI below for contribution works. made so far in each case; For contrihution works no funds are allotted by Departmen~ as the same are carried out (d) thA location of zonal offices set up in against advances paid by the users them- M.P., Bihar, Orisra, West Bengal nnd Ma- selves. The information for G.M. Data Net- harashtt a; anrl work is given in statemer.t VII below.

(e) whether there is a proposal to set up (d) There IS at present no Zonal Office a SAtellite Centre in NTPC, Korba and if so, for the G.M. Data Network. The information the amount charged therefor and when this in respect of G.M. Satellite Project and TCll work is expected to completed? is given in statement vnt and IX below re- spectively.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (e) Yes, Sir. Korba Earth Station has MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHMI sinc.;9 be~n commiSSIoned ir. February, 1989. GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The aims and Korba is one of the 6 earth stations to be objects of constitut;ng the satellite communi- i.lstalleJ for the satellite captive network of cations project circle, and Remo~e Area NTPC for which equipment supplies are to Bu!>iness Message Network Circle (now Data be made by NTPC themselves. So far NTPC Network Circle) are given in statement I and has paid Department of Telecommunication II below respectively. Similarly their r.onstitu- As. 71.78 lakhs towards consultancy. instal- tion in the same order is given in statement lation and commissioning charges for the III and IV below. The aims aod objec.ts of wholl9 nAtwork. 149 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) Written Answ9rs 150

STATEMENT-I To meet these demands initially a proj- ect for the Remote Area Business Message Aims and Objects of Constituting the Network with a Master Earth Station at Sikan- Satellite Project Circle drabad (U.P.) has been sanctioned at a oost of about Rs. 15 crores. This Master Earth As a foJiow up action of the policy deci- Station will provide Packet Switched Da,a sion of the Government of India to have a Services for low speed data upto 1.2 Kbps Domestic natiorlallndian Satellite system for between subscriber ownad very small and providing Meteorological Services, Radio and economically priced earth stations called TV a~d Broadcast Services and long Dis- "Micro Terminals" to be mainly located in tance Telecommunication Services, a ficlld areas where no other means of telecom- organisation under G.M. Satellite Project munications are existing. Amongst the tar- was set up to provide satellite communica- get subscribers forthis ngtwork will be Banks tion as a component of the reliable iong and Industries situated in remote and back- distance telecommunication services with ward areas. the following objects:- Remote Area Business Message Net- i. Setting up ground segment for work will be capable of catering about 1000 utilisation of Telecommunication subscriber owned mie;roterminals forprovid- capdbillty of INSAT series of ing the following facilities: Satellites for providing long dis- tance departmentattelecommu- i, Messaging ",cation facilities. ii) Far;simile ii. Providing uplink facilities to Doordarshan and Air and facili- iii) Inter-active Data Communication ties to MET Department for col- lection and distribution of MET iv) Access to Public Telex Network data and allied infurmatlon. v) Access to Public Data Network iii. Preparation of plans dnd estab- "VIKRAM" when r;.rovided. lishing dedicated satellite based tefecom network for Governm ant vi) Acce~s to International Data U"dertakingslPnvate agencies. Banks through the Gateway at Bombay. iv. Providing transportable terminals for Emergency Comn lunicatlons. The Remote Area Businass Nat'\'ork (now Data Network Circle) as ~;eated to STATEMENT-II execute this project and install microtermi- nals on cost basis if approach&d by thA Aims and Objects of Constituting the customers. Ramote Area Business Message Network STATEMENT·III The demand for Inter-active Computer WorJ(ing, Facsimile Services, Video Confer- A. Circle headquarters o~ the Project Or- encing. Electronic Mail and othervalue-added ganisation is located at 50 Community Centrc.., Telematics Services is progressively gain- Naraina, New Delhi. The headquarters of ing ground in India. the Directors and DETs are indicated below: 151 Written AnswelS MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 152

1. New Delhi 5. Bangalore

2. Bombay 6. Shillong

3. Madras 7. Itanagar

4. Calcutta 8. Dimapur

STATEMENT·IV

Constitution of Remote Area Business Message Network Circle (now Data Network Circle) Located at 1-10, Sector 12, Noida·201301 (U.P.)

The sanctioned establishment of Remote Area Business Message Network Circle (now Data Network Circle) is as under:-

1. General Manager 1

2. Directors 2

3. Chief Accounls Officers

4. Divisional Engineers 3

5. Accounts Officers

6. Asstt. Engineer 3

7. Jr. Accounts Officers

8. Jr. Technical Offlcers 3

9. St9nographers 4

10. Draftsman 1

11. Drivers 4

STATEMENT·V

Status of Departmental Works vis-a-vis Expenditure Details of Proiects for SCJte/lite Schemes

1. No. of Projects sanctio.led - 28

2. Total sanctioned cost = As. 223.65 erarss 153 Written Ans wers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answ91S 154

3. Progressive expenditure upto 28.2.1989 - As. 156.23 crores

4. Earth stations installed and commissioned so far - 69

5. Earth stations under installation at various stages of ·execution. == 57

STATEMENT-VI

Status of contribution works vis-a-vis their cost

Total number of contribution ... 22

Total cost ... Rs. 101.47 crores

Schemes commissioned ... 9

Name of customers:

1. A.I.R.

2. Doordarshan

3. I.M.D.

4. O.N.G.e.

5. Central Water Commission

6. National Fertilizer Ltd.

7. Coal India Ltd.

8. Thermal Power Corporation

9. Nuclear Power Corporation

10. Hindu

11. Press Trust of India

12. Indian Army. 155 Written AnswelS MAY 2,1989 Written A.-sw9m 156

STATEMENT·VII

Project Estimates sanctioned so far for Departmental Satellite Schemes under G.M. Data Net

51. No. Name of Project Estimate Sanctioned cost Progressive Progress (Rs. in crores) expenditure made so upto 28th far Feb'89 (Rs. in crores)

1. Setting up Master Earth station 15.05 0.3254 Master Earth and Host Computer Interface at Station Sikandrabad Satellite Based equipment Remote Area Business Message still awaited Network

STA TEMENT- VIII

Details of Zonal Offices of Satellite Project Circle in MP, Bihar, Orissa, West Bengal and Maharashtra

51. No. State Zonal Office

1. M.P. Nil

2. Bihar Nil

3. Orissa Nil

4. West Bengal Divisional Engineer Satellite communication Project. AA-12. Sector-I, Salt Lake City. Calcutta-700064.

5. Maharashtra Divisional Engineer Satellite Communication Project, 5th Floor, Anoop Building, Aeay Road, Bombay-40001 O.

STATEMENT-IX

Details of Zonal Offices of TGIL in MP, Bihar, Orissa, West Bengal and Maharashtra

51. No. State Zonal Office

1. M.P. Nil

2. Bihar Nil

3. Orissa Nil 157 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 191 1 (SAKA) WriNen Answ.tfS 158

51. No. State Zonal Office

4. West Bengal There is a Regional Office of Tell located at Calcutta.

5. Maharashtra Nil

Setting up of Industries Under Jawahar- exchange at Punalur in Ouilon district of lal Nehru Employment Scheme Kerala;

7643. SHRI KESHAORAO PARDHI: (b) wether there is a heavy backlog for Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to telephone connections in that area; and state: (c) if so, the steps proposed to be taken (a) whether Government propose to set to augment the capacity of the exchange? up one industry in each district with employ- ment potential for at least one thousand THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE persons under "Jawaharlal Nehru Employ- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI ment Scheme"; and GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) if not, the reasonc; therefor? (b) The backlog is not very high com- pared to many other stations in Kerala. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). Presumably, (c) 1500 line electronic C-OOT type the Hon'ble Member is referring to Jawahar main exchange stands allotted for 1990-91 Rozgar Yojana. Jawahar Rozgar Yojana in replacement of existing 800 line MAX II which has been launched this year after strowger type exchange. merging all the wage employment pro- grammes into one single programme has no Waiting List for Telephone Connections component of setting up industry in each In Orissa district in the country. This programmes is basically a wage employment programme 7645. SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK: and hence question of setting up of any Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be industry under the programmes does not pleased to state: seem to arise.

(a) the number of applications pending [English] for telephone connections in Orissa at pres- ent, district-wise; Telephone Exchange at Punalur, Kerala (b) the date of priority covered so far in 7644. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will the' each district; and Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) when all the pending connections are likely to be given? (a) whether there is a demand for augmenting the capacity of the telephone THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 159 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 160

MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI the average registered demand in the case GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). The of main automatic exchange (MAX-I) is pro- requisite information is given in statement I posed to be cleared up to 1.4.87, that for and II below. (MAX-II) upto 1.4.88 and that for (MAX-III)! Manual exchanges upto 1.4.90 by the end of Seventh Plan. The remaining waiting list will (c) As per objectives of the Department be gradually cleared during the early Eighth of Telecommunications during Seventh Plan, Five Year Plan period.

STATEMENT-.

District-wise Waiting List in Orissa as on 31.3.89

51. No. Name of the District Waiting list as on 31.3.89

1. Balasore 105

2. Bolangir 30

3. Cuttack 1650

4. Dhenkanal 40

5. Ganjam 220

6. Kalahandi 15

7. Keonjhar 25"

8. Koraput 75

9. Mayurbhanja 40

10. Phulbani Nil

11. Puri 3160

12. Sambalpur 160

13. Sundergarh 180

STATEME~T-II

Category wise Position of Clearance of Waiting List in the Districts of Orissa

51. No. Name of District Date upto which waiting list cleared in the District H/Qs. und.r

OYT Special OYTGeneral Non-OYT(GENL)

1. Balasore 23.3.89 28.3.89 31.10.88 161 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Writtsn Answers 162

5/. No. Name of District Date upto which waiting list cleared in the District H/Qs. u"d,r

OYT Special OYTGeneral Non-OYT{GENL)

2. Bolangir No Waiting List

3. Cuttack 31.3.89 31.3.89 30.6.89

4. Dhenkanal No Waiting List 30.3.89

5. Ganjam No Waiting list

6. Kalahandi -do-

7. Keonjhar -do-

B. Koraput -do-

9. Mayurbhanja -do- 20.2.89

10. Phulbani -do-

11. Puri -do- 28.2.89

12. Sambalpur -do- 20.4.89

13. Sundergarh No Waiting List

In Bhubaneshwar (District Puri). the setting up of the project and when it will go State Capital, waiting list has been cleared into production; and upto 12.9.86 under OYT-Special, 31.12.86 under OYT-General and upto 6.9.84 under (d) the employment potential of the Non-OYT (GENL). project?

Petrochemical Complex at Nagothane In Maharashtra THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). MIs. Indian 7646. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Willthe Petrochemicals Corporation Limited (IPCL) Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: is setting up the Maharashtra Gas Cracker Complex (MGCC) of 300,000 MT ethylene (a) whether a gas based petrochemical capacity with downstream units like Low complex is being set in the industrially back- Density Polyethylene (LOPE). Linear Low ward area of Nagothane in Ma"harashtra; Density Polyethylene (LLDPE)/High Density Polyethylene (HOPE), Polypropylene, Eth- (b) if so, the details thereof and its ylene OxidalEthylene Glycol, Wire and Cable estimated production capacity; Compounds, etc. at Nagothane in Mahar- ashtra at an estimated cost of Rs. 3190 (c) the progress made so far in the crores. 163 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 164

(c) As on 31 st March, 1989, the overall site selected by A.I.R. forthe proposed radio % physical progress is 83.7 • The project is station. The construction work can be started tiketyto be mechanically completed by August only after the site is handed over to AIR by 1989 as per schedule except LLDPE Project the State Government. which is expected to be completed by March, 1990. Allotment of Petrol/Diesel Retail Outlets In Bihar (d) There will be direct employment of about ~ 600 persons in Phase-I of the project. 7648. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM [ Trans/ation] AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

AIR Transmitters in Pithoragarh (U.P.) (a) whether it is proposed to allot petrol/ diesel retail outlets near the Bhandaro turn- 7647. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the ing point of Koderma Giridih road on State Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- Highway in Bihar and at Adivasi sub-divi- CASTING be pleased to state: sional headquarters of Bengabad, Tisri and Gandey; and (a) whether the programmes of A.1. R. are not received in some parts of Pithora- (b) if so, the time by which the neces- garh district: sary sanction is likely to be given?

(b) if so, whether a Radio transmitter is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN MINIS- proposed to be set up in that district; TRYOFPETROLEUMANDNATURALGAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) No, Sir. (c) if so, when the construction work would be started and completed; and (b) Does not arise in view of (a) above.

(d) if not, the reasons therefor? [English]

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY Expansion of Telephone Exchange In AFFAtAS AND MINJSTER OF INFORMA- ShertaJJay KeraJa TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) Pithoragarh district is not situated in the primary grade coverage area 7649. SHRI V'AKKOM PURUSHOTHA· (day time) of any of the existing Medium MAN: vim the Minister of COMMUNICA- Wave stations of All India Radio in Uttar TIONS be pleased to refer to the reply given Pradesh. However, Short Wave transmitters on 28 July, 1987 to Unstarred Question N. of Delhi and Lucknow provide coverage to 363 regarding the new telephone connec- this area. tions in Shertallay and state:

(b) The approved 7th Plan of AIR in- (a) whether provision has been made cludes a scheme for setting up a radio sta- for the expansion of the telephone exchange tion at Pithoragarh with a 1 KW MWtransmit- in Shertallay in Alleppey District, Kerala in ter. the annual plan for 1989-90; and

(c) and (d). The State Government of (b) if so, the time by which the work is Uttar Pradesh 'has not yet handed over the expected to commence and completed? 165 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answsrs 166

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE {b) The construction work on the project MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI will commence after the investment decision GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). Yes, is taken for the revised cost estimates of the Sir. The existing 1000 line MAX-II exchange project. in Shertallay is programmed for expansion from 1000 to 1200 lines during 1989-90 (c) An amount of Rs. one erore has subject to availability of equipment. been provided in the budget estimates 1989- 90 for this project. [ Translation} (d) The revised estimates of the project Koel-Karo Hydel Project will be processed for an investment decision after the project is cleared under the Forest 7650. SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD: Will (Conservation) Act, 1980, clearance from the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to refer the Irrigation Department of the Government to the reply given on 7 March, 1989 to of Bihar is received and agreements for Unstarred Question No. 1724 regarding Koel purchase of power are signed by West Bengal Karo Hydel Project in Bihar and state: and Orissa with NHPC.

(a) th~ progress made in t~e acquisition [English] of additional land so far; Communications Received from MPs (b) when the construction work of the on Drug Issues project is likely to start; 7651. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the (c) the amount provided for this pur- Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: pose in 1989-90; and (a) the total number of communications (d) when the final decision for invest- received by his Ministry from Members of ment on the basis of the revised estimates of Parliament on Drug issues during the last the project will be taken? two years, year-wise;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) how many communications have DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- been replied and the details provided as TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): requested; (a) Apart from 77.74 ha. of private land which was earlier acquired by the Bihar (c) the reasons for not replying to the State Electricity Board and had already been remarning communications; and handed over to the National Hydro-electric Power Corporation (NHPC), the NHPC have (d) what is the time period within which so far filed requisitions with the-Government communications from M.Ps. are to be re- of Bihar for acquisition of 14320 ha. of pri- plied? vate land. Out of this, the process of acqui- sition of 540 ha. has been finalised and the award is ready. Requisition for release of THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI 5685 ha. of Non-forest land has also been J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (d). The information submitted to the Government of Bihar by is being compiled and will be laid on the NHPC. Table of the House. 167 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 168

Discovery of 011 and Ga8 In Tamil Nadu 5, is being produced through early produc- tion system, and being sent to Madras Refin- 7652. SHRI KADAMBUR JANARTHA- eries Limited (MRL). Besides, one perma- NAN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM nent Group Gathering Station at Narimanam AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: is scheduled for completion by June, 1989 An S"dia. collector pipeline from Narimanam (a) the places in Tamil Nadu where the GGS to Nagapattin~m and two oil terminals, Oil and Natural Gas Commission (O.N.G.C.) one at Nagapattinam and the other at Madra has discovered potential for oil and gas so Refinery end, with completion schedule by far; and end of 1989-90 are under construction. In the offshore. plans are in hand to produce oil (b) the action taken to tap the oit and from PY -3 prospects. Associated gas being gas potential fully in Tamil Nadu? produced alongwith oil is being supplied to MIs. Indian Steel Rolling Mills, MIs. Kiran THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Silicates and MIs. SreeJaya Devi Industries. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- Commitment has been made to four other RAlGAS(SHRIBRAHMDUTT):(a) ONGC consumers as under, apart from a commit- has discovered oil and/orgason 5 prospects ment of 40,000 M3.1day for a power plant of in onland part of the Cauvery Basin (Tamil TNEB. Nadu and Pondichery) and on 3 prospects off the coast of Tamil Nadu (Cauvery Off- Committed Quantity shore) as under:- MJld

Cauvery On/and 1. MIs. Sunrise Silicates 3,000

Prospects Status 2. Mis. Madras Chemicals 3,000

Karaikal Oil 3. MIs. Deepak Chemical Works 3,000 (Pondichery) 4. Mis. Sharda Silicates 3,000 Narimanam Oil and Gas It has been planned to produce about 2 KovitkallapaJ Oil and Gas lakh tonnes of oil during 1989-90 from Cauvery Basin. Plans are also in hand to Bhuvangiri Oil produce oil from the recently disoovered prospect PY-3-2 in the Cauvery Offshore. Nannilam Oil and Gas Promotion of Small Industries with Cauvery Offshore Cooperation of Other Countries

PY-1 Gas 7653. SHRIMATIJAYANTIPATNAIK: SHRI SRIBALLAV PANI- PH-9 Oil GRAHl:

Oil Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) Oil from 3 onland prospects-Nari- man am, Kovilkallapal and Bhuvangiri out of (a) whether Government have identi- 16g Written Answers .VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Writtsn Answers 170

fied possible areas of cooperation between Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased small enterprises of India and China; to state the number of new public call offices an(J Sub~Post offices opened in Midnapur (b) if so, the steps taken to establish district of West Bengal during 1988? Cooperation with China and to promote small scale industries in the country; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether Government have estab- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHAI lished cooperation \n the field of sma" sca'e GIRIDHAR GO:'AANGO): 29 Public Call industries with some other countries too; Offices have been opened in Midnapur Dis· and trict during 1988-89. As regards sub Post offices, a Sub Post office has been sanc- (d) if so, the details thereof? tioned for Vidyasagar University Complex. This office is expected to start functioning shortly. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- Setting up of growth centr8sIn Andhr. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Pradesh TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) No, Sir. 7655. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise. (a) whether Andhra Pradesh Govern- (c) A UNIDO project of arranging plant- ment has sent any proposals for setting up level cooperation between the small and growth centres in the backward areas of the medium industries of India and Italy is under State; implementation. (b) if so, the details thereof and when a (d) Under the UNIDO Project, around final decision is expected to be taken in this 100 small and medium industries in the regard; and following sub-sectors of industry have been identified for arranging plant-level coopera- (c) the financial assistance expected to tion: be given to the State Government for this purpose? i) Metal Engineering

iii) Marble and Granite THI; MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- iii) leather Processing and Goods OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). iv) Food Processing and Packaging Andhra Pradesh Government have senttheir recommendations which will be examined New Public Call Offices and Sub-Post along with the proposals which are being Offices Opened In Mldnapur District In received from other State Governmentsl West Bengal Union Territories. The broad pattern of finan- cial assistance proposed for each Growth 7654. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the Centre is as under:- 171 Written Answers MAY 2.1989 Written Answers 172

Central Government (Equity) Rs. 10 Cr.

State Government (Equity) As. 5 Cr.

All India Financial Institutions As. 4 Cr. (including As. 2 Crores as equity)

Nationalised Banks Rs. 1 Cr.

Rs. 20 Cr.

Market borrowings Rs. 10 Cr.

Total Rs. 30 Cr.

Thein Dam area.

7656. SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN Ban on recruitment of clerks in coal (UDHAMPUR): Will the Minister of EN- company subsidiaries ERGY be pleased to state: 7657. SHRI SRfBALLAV PANIGRAHI: (a) the number of persons likely to be Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to uprooted due to the construction of the Thein state: Dam; (a) whether there has been any ban on (b) the details 01 compensation to be the recruitment of clerks, etc. by the subsidi- paid to those whose land is submerged due ary coal companies; to the Thein Dam; and (b) if so, since when and the reasons (c) whether Government propose to the. efar; and give them compensation at the same rate at which it was given to the people of Uri (J&K (c) when the ban is likely to be lifted? State) as a result of the construction of Uri power project? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) There is no general THE MINISTER OF STATE IN DE- ban on recruitment in Coal India Limited and PARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- its subsidiaries. However, in view of the TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): existence of ~urplus manpower in some (a) About 3B74 families are likely to be areas, recruitment of non-essential staff is displaced due to the construction of Thein restricted to the minimum. Dam in the States of Punjab, Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir. (b) and (c). Do not arise in view of the position stated above. (b) and (c). The compensation for the land being acquired for construction of Thein Opening of Branch and Sub Post Dam Project, will be pa;d under the provi- Offices in Rural Areas of Assam sions of the Land Acquisition Act as per the rate prevailing in the concerned villagesl 7658. SHRI ABDUL HAMID: Will the 173 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) WriN9n Answ9fS 174.

Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether there was any proposal to open branch and sub post offices in the rural (b) During 19aa-S9, new post offices areas of Assam in 1988-89; were set up in 22 villages of Assam.

(b) if so, the number of villages in (c) Branch and sub post offices pro- Assam covered so far; and posed to be opened in Assam during the first Quarter of 1989-90 (April-June) are listed in (c) the details of villages to be covered the statement below. The further programme in 1989-90? for the year is being finalised. STATEMENT

List of branch post offices and Sub Post Offices due to be opened in Assam during the first quarter of 1989-90

S. No. Name of the 80 Division

1 2 3

1. Fetagaon Jorhat

2. 8agdaba Nalbari

3. Majkuri Jorhat

4. Sota; TE - do -

5. Electrical veng NC Hills

6. Jamalpur Cachar

7. Meleng Jorhat

8. Bhuyankhat Darrang

9. Balijan Amtenga Golaghat

10. Namrupia Jorhat

11. Dewangaon - do -

12. Shohguri Kacherigaon - do -

13. Rabigaon Sibsagar

14. Chenigaon Kamrup 175 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written AnswBIS 176

1 2 3

15. Lonku NC Hills

16. Maibongdisha - do-

17. Sankri Bagan - do-

18. Garhpa Dibrugarh

19. Impoi (Hindu) NC Hills

20. Kanabasti - do-

21. Hange - do-

22. Narainpur - do-

23. Nayagram Kartmganj

24. Ratakandi Cacher

25. Shyamthai Bari Kokrajahr

26. Rangalikhata - do-

27. Pulunga Dibrugarh

28. Kathal-Gurigaon - do-

29. Satiantoli Nagaon

30. Bokakhat Golaghat

31. Dafalakata North Lakhimpur

32. Lag uaborahgaon - do ..

33. Mahaijan - do-

34. Kanpatni - do-

35 Khajupatir - do-

36. Garaimari - do-

37. Hengalpara Darang 1n Writt9n Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Wrltt9n AnswelS 178

1 2 3

38. Mikiirbarachuk Sonitpur

39. Silonigaon - do-

40. 8agipukhuri Darang

41. Rakhalbasti Cachar

42. Gangpardhumkar - do-

43. Chengjuri Grant - do -

44. Kalipur Nalbari

45. Silaipar Dhubri

46. Dighaljuli Sonitpur

47. Nanipur Nagaon

48. Sonarigaon - do-

49. Tukarkota - do -

50. Kukurkata Golpara

51. Haloadal Kokrajahr

52. Tetfiguri Golpara

53. Jaybhum Golpara

54. Khalgaon Kokrajhr

55. Khardang Goalpara

56. Aminkata Kokrajhar

57. Batabari - do-

58 Melemora Golaghat

59. Maladahra - do-

60. Mohpara - do- 179 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 WriNsn Answsrs 180

1 2 3

61. Palagi Panchali North Lakhimpur

62. Aneria Nagaon

63. Dwaijungphang Karbi Anglong

64. Lurulangs -do-

65. Gopalnagar Nagaon

66. Napabruiti Sibsagar

67. Difflee Gloaghat

68. Dagaon Sibsagar

69. Kalcheni Nalbari

70. Lachltnagar Dibrugarh

71. Nilmoni Dibrugarh

72. Forest Bazar Marbi Anglong

73. Kalmini Dibrugarh

74. Dlkheri-Morangaon - do -

75. Chhalebila Kokrajhar

76. Dangsipara - do -

77. Patpara Goalpara

78. Joyma Kokrajhar

79. Pakadal North Lakhimpur

80. Barjhara Goalpara

81. Mahakhowa Dibrugarh

82. Khatargaon Sonitpur

83. Kamlabari Berpeta 181 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Writtsn Answers 182

1 2 3

84. Bebeligaon North Lakhimpur

85. Bulakata - do-

86. Kalazal Kamrup

87. Balikuchi - do-

88. Techaria - do-

89. Kuwarpur - do-

90. Khorikot - do -

91. Panikhaiti - do-

92. Hangrum NCHills

93. Thongland Karbi Anglong

94. Oiphu Govt. College. - do -

95. Garhkhuti Nagaon

96. Rajbari North Lakhimpur

97. Sagarpur - do -

98. Manikchuk - do -

99. Puli-Naha-Reni - do -

100. Lalmati-gaon Dibrugarh

101. Lokumai - do-

102. Ghuguloniahom - do -

103. Banipur Dibrugarh

104. T enga-Basti Sonitpur

105. Halemguri - do-

106. Kalakuchi Darang 183 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Ans wers 184

1 2 3

107. Barnagaon - do-

108. Depalchung Golpara

109. Majerchar Dubri

110. Dighaltari - do-

111. Maktaigaon Kokrajhar

112. Goalgaon Jorhat

113. Tolekhalu Karimganj

I 114. Alamkhani - do -

115. Magan; Sonitpur

116. Bahbari Darrang

117. Chantipara - do -

118. Jharnachar Dhubri

119. Silchang Nagaon

120. Tarabasa Karbi Anglong

121. Dayang 8elguri Nagaon

122. Bhalaoghat Kerbi Anglong

123. Hacharagaon Nagaon

124. Malmura Darrang

125. Tamulbari - do -

126. Durapara Kamrup

127. Teteliguri Karbi Anglong

128. Gosaihat Kamrup

129. Bolebari Sonitpur 185 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 186

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130. Tokradia Kamrup

131. Lalmauguri Sonitpur

132. Doeopi - do -

133. Chandrapara Kokrajhar

134. Pahuchungi Pathar Sibsagar

135. Bechimari Darrang

136. Mangalian Bazar Kokrajhar

137. 8arigaon Golpara

138. Padupuri Mazagaon Darrang

139. Nemaigarhhbari Sibsagar

140. Dillighat - do -

141. Muktapur Nalbari

142. Raipur Barpeta

143. Bihepara Kamrup

144. Kharsitha Nalbari

145. Kathalbari - do-

146. Dalbari - do -

147. Pakhamara - do -

148. Mahimari Kamrup

149. Nichilamari Darrang

150. Sastapara - do -

151. Ghogra Bazar - do -

152. Borghuli Sapmeri Nagaon 187 W,ittsn AnsW91S MAV2.1989 Written Answers 188

1 2 3

153. Dighalieti - do-

154. Nibukali - do-

155. Chalapathar - do-

156. Punjabar Palhar Karbi Anglong

157. Padumpukhuri - do-

158. Cherakani - do-

159. Langbungdi - do-

160. Panjuri - do-

161. Ambuk Goalpara

162. Latibari - do-

163. Mandira Kamrup

164. Joysagar Nalbari

165. Galia Barpeta

166. Oenghap Karbi Angalong

167. Utterpet Borha Nagaon

168. Fultali Bazar - do-

169. Lachitpather - do-

170. Wirwar Karbi Anglong

171. Bewarghat Cachar

172. Hidalatari Nalbari

173. Kharaiguri Sonitpur

174. Bashbari Cachar

175. Bagls Road chowk Nalbari 189 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 190

1 2 3

176. Hatinga Sonitpur

177. Barpathar Sibsagar

178. Mahederpur Cachar

179. Bagalghat - do-

180. Tarabari Kalsilasatra Naqaon

181. Choudhurirchar Dhubri

182. Pub-Baramcheri Nalbari

183. Bhuaguri Darrang

184. Bhimari Sonitpur

185. Mukaligaon - do-

186. Singitali - do-

187. Dhvllie Kuhuarbari - do-

188. Paken No.1 - do-

189. Shiber Chak Karimganj

190. Pirnagar Cachar

191. Mokhuli Nagaon

192. Dirai TE Dihrugarh

193. Gharbandi Barunpukhuri - do-

194. Bakuajari Nalbari

195. Maruachowki Darrang

196. Kacharithall Cachar

197. Ujanikuri Sibsagar

198. Chapania Kamrup 191 Written Ans wers MAY 2.1989 Written Answers 192

1 2 3

199. Bholabatabari - do -

200. Baghashumout Sibsagar

201. Deesunga Kamrup

202. Khatalpara Barpeta

203. Puranbhawanipur - do-

204. Amingaon Nalbari

205. Bokabil Darrang

206. Bishnunagar Karimganj

207. Madhyamkhanda Kamrup

208. Narayanapur Nalbari

Departmental Sub Offices

1. Kazipara Nalbari

2. Dittur Cement Factory. I~.C. Hills

3. Kagaz Nagar Nowgong.

Allotment of Kerosene Oil to Punjab the increase in the quota of kerosene oil; and

7659. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will (e) if so, the steps taken in this regard? the Minister of PETROLEUM -AND NATU- RAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NAllJ- (a) the quota of kerosene oil allotted to RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTI): (a) to (c). Punjab during the last one year. month-wise; The kerosene requirements of States and UTs including Punjab are assessed by al·· (b) whether this quota has been in lowing a suitable growth rate over the alloca~ accordance with the demand of Punjab tions made in the corresponding period of Government; the previous year, and allocations are made accordingly. Besides the regular allocations, (c) if not, the reasons for short supply; adhoc releases are also given to meet spe- cific situations like ftoads, drought, shortage (d) whether Punjab Govt. has asked for of LPG etc. 193 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 194

The allocation of kerosene made to Sub·contract for manufacture of Punjab during the year 1988-89 in accor- toothpaste and tooth powder by MNC. dance with the above policy is given below month wise: 1660. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Month Allocation refer to the replies given on 11 April, 1989 to (in tonnes) Starred Question No. 582 regarding target for Small Scale Industries and Unstarred 1 2 Question No. 5741 regarding licensed ca- . pacityof MIs. Colgate Palmofive (India) Ltd. April, 88 22325 and state:

May, 88 22325 (a) the details of multinationals which have given sub-contracts to get the tooth- June,8S 22325 paste and tooth powder manufactured;

July, 88 24495 (b) the details of the excess manufac· ture of toothpaste and tooth powder by Col- August, 88 24495 gate Palmolive (India) Ltd. during the last three years; Sept.,8B 24495 (c) when did the Company obtained a Oct., 88 29495 stay order; and

Nov., 88 24660 (d) the steps taken by Government to get the stay order vacated? Dec., 88 24660

Jan., 89 24660 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- Feb., 89 24660 OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Under March,89 23440 the provisions of Industries (Development & Regulation) Act, 1951. no permission is The allocation made in accordance with required to be obtained by companies for the above policy is, by and large, considered marketing items manufactured by Small adequate to meet the demand of the genuine Scale Units. MIs. Colgate Palmolive (India) consumers in the State. Limited have informed that they purchase toothpaste and tooth powder on contract (d) and (e). The Government of Punjab from small scale producing companies for had requested for enhancement of kerosene marketing in their own brand name. allocation in Oct. 1988 for meeting the in- creased demand due to floods in the State. (b) Production of tooth powder and This was considered and an additional ad- toothpaste for the last three years as re- hoc allocation of 5000 tonnes was given to ported by MIs Colgate Palmolive (India) Punjab for this purpose in that month. Limited is as under:- 195 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 196

Production in tonnes Item 1986 1987 1988

1 2 3 4

Tooth powder 4,975 4,872 3,854

Toothpaste 12,648 12,940 14,635

(c) The company obtained the stay cals Ltd. has any plan for diversification; order in 1985. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (d) The case is being contested in the Court. (c) the steps taken by BHEL in that regard? Allotment of LPG Agencies and Petrol Pumps to Scheduled Tribes in Delhi THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. 7661. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (b) Diversification programme of BHEL NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: includes new business areas, such as, Gas Turbines, HVDC, AC Loco,;;, Tele-communi- (a) the number of petrol pumps and gas cation, Defence etc. agencies allotted to Scheduled Tribes in Delhi; and (c) BHEL has already started the manufacture of Gas Turbines, HVDC equip- (b) if no petrol pump and gas agency ment, AC Locos, EPABX, etc. has been allotted to Scheduled Tribes, the reasons therefor? Setting up of Digital Electronic Tele- phone Exchange, In Orissa THE MINISTER OF STATE THE MIN- ISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL 7663. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: Will GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) and (b). the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Based on the SC/ST population in the Union pleased to state: Territory of Delhi, the entire Reservation has been made for 'SC' category. Hence for want (a) whether Government have a pro- of reservation under ST category, no dealer- posal to set up digital electronic telephone ship/distributorship of any petroleum prod- exchanges in Orissa during the remaining uct has been allotted to any ST candidate. period of the Seventh Plan;

Diversification programme of BHEL (b) if so, the places where these ex- changes will be set up? 7662. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). Yes, (a) whether the Bharat Heavy Electn- Sir. The places are: 197 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 198

1. Bhubaneshwar in the scale of As. 7300~7600.

2. Manchesar (b) No, Sir. The Assistant Executive Engineers of 1978 batch of UPSC working in 3. Chandipur P & T Civil Wing have been promoted.

4. Rayagada (c) and (d). During the years 1976-77 there were heavy recruitments in the grade In addition 50 small digital electronic of Assistant Executive Engineer (Civil). This exchanges are proposed to be installed at has resulted in delay in promotion of officers various places in the State. recruited through subsequent batches.

Promotional avenues of Assistant (e) The promotional avenues in P & T Executive Engineers i,! P & T civil wing cannot necessarily be at per with Civil Wing other organisations as these are dependent upon size, ~rowth and development of the 7664. SHRI KRISHNA PRATAP various departments. SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUN ICA- TIONS be pleased 10 state: Allotment of Petrol Pumps In Uttar Pradesh (a) the promotional avenues of Assis- tant Executive Engineers in P & T, Civil 7665. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI Wing; KHAN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) whether Assistant Executive Engi- neers of 1978 batch of upse, working in P (a) the places where new petrol pumps & T, civil Wing have not yet got even their first are proposed to be opened in Uttar Pradesh promotion while those working in other during 1989-90, district-wise; Departments like Railways, Telecommuni- cations, CPWD, All India Radio have been (b) whether there is a demand for promoted; opening some new petrol pumps in Etah district; (c) whether officers belonging to 1982 batch of UPSC also have been given promo- (c) if so, whether any survey has been tion in these organisations; conducted for the purpose; and

(d) if so, the reasons therefor; and (d) if so, the details thereof?

(c) the steps proposed to be taken to THE MINIST~R OF- STATE IN THE promote the Assistant Executive Engineers MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- in P & T civil Wing at par with their other RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) Upto colleagues in other organisations? the Annual Retail Marketing Plan 1987-88, oil companies have planned to set up 219 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE new Retail Outlets (Petrol/Diesel) in Uttar MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Pradesh. Particulars of locations are given in GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The promo- the Statement below. tional avenues of Assistant Executive Engi- neers in P & T civil Wing are upto DOG (8W) (b) to (d). Out of the above, six Retail 199 Written Answers MAY 2.1989 Written Answers 200

Outlets have been proposed to be set up in 3. Madhupura SH 22 Etah District at the following locations: 4. Marhara 1. Nidholi 5. Dhumri 2. Sahawar 6. Transport Nagar

STATEMENT

S. No. Location District

1 2 3

1. Central Jail Agra

2. Etamadpur A9 ra

3. Patnoli Agra

4. Tundlajalesar Road Crossing Agra

5. Sidhandi Crossing Agra

6. Khandoli Agra

7. Agra

8. Etmadpur Agra

9. Chandous Aligarh

10. Hussayan Aligarh

11. Lalganj Azamgarh

12. Hamidpur Aligarh

13. Kharihani Azamgarh

14. Bhitariganj Azamgarh

15. Brahmsthan. Ki Chungi Azamgarh

16. Saraimir Azamgarh

17. Thekm a, Azamgarh Azamgarh 201 Writtsn Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnswsfS 202

1 2 3

18. Asafpur Badaun

19. Karanpur - do-

20. Sorron - do -

21. Ujjaini - do-

22. Thai - do-

23. Zunabi - do-

24. Gunnaur - do -

25. 3- Angular Crossing - do-

26. Kaiserganj Bahraich

27. Hazurpur - do -

28. Risia - do-

29. Chidwadagaon Balia

30. Mau Banda

31. Baberri Banda

32. Naraini - do -

33. Manikpur - do -

34. Barabanki NH Barabanki

35. Dewa Town - do -

36. Haidergarh - do -

37. Alapur, Kureli Barabanki - do-

38. Safedabad - do-

39. Rithora Bareilly

40. Sheashgarh - do- 203 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answ9fS 204

1 2 3

41. Aonla - do -

42. Jalanagar - do-

43. Semiriawan Bazar Bast;

44. Biskoher - do -

45. Khatiwan Block Sethu - do-

46. Bansi T ehsil Knead - do -

47. Pachwas - do -

48. Khalilabad - do -

49. Daulatpur Kalan Bulandshahr

50. Sikandrabad - do -

51. Kasna - do -

52. Augustmuni Chamoli

53. Kund - do -

54. Chakrata Dehradun

55. V,II. Shyampur - do -

56. Padruna Deoria

57. Bantikara - do -

58. Fazilpur - do -

59. Khukhunda Chauraha - do -

60. Nidholi Etah

61. Sahawar - do -

62. Madhupura SH 22 - do -

63. Marhara - do- 205 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 206

1 2 3

64. Dhumri - do-

65. Transport Nagar Etah

66. Aira Katra Etawah

67. Basrehar - do-

68. Kantihar - do -

69. Akbarpur Faizabad

70. Marela Mill NR - do-

71. Sohanawal Crossing - do -

72. F aizabad City - do -

73. Nawasganj F arrukhabad

74. Saidanpur Fatehpur

75. Kanpur Fatehpur Rd. - do -

76. Hapur KM 33-36 (SH 18) Gaziabad

77. Modinagar (Hapur Road) - do -

78. Sadat - do -

79. Naida Dadru Marg - do -

80. Ghaziabad - do -

81. Ghaziabad - do -

82. Dhullehpur Bazar Gazipur

83. Bhadaura - do-

84. Nandganj - do-

85. Thanabirno - do-

86. Mohmedabad - do- Written Answ91S 207 Written AnswelS MAY 2,1989 208

1 2 3

87. Pali Gorakhpur

8B. Khajni - do-

89. Sihapar Halt - do-

90. Turwa Bazar - do-

91. Pipiganj - do-

92. Motiram Adda - do-

93. Mithora - do-

94. Gagaha - do-

95. Chnrkharj Hamirpur

96. Muskara - do-

97. Mallawan Hardoi

98. Mallawan -do-

99. Harpalpur - do-

100. Hardoi-Bilgram Rd. - do-

101. Sitapur Road Hordoi

102. Bilgram Road Lucknow-Hardoi - do-

103. Gopamau - do-

104. Hardoi-LKO Rd. Hardo; - do-

105. Rampur Jaunpur

106. Naopedwan Bazar - do-

107. Bandhwa - do-

108. Suithekelan - do-

109. Mehrupur - do- 209 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 210

1 2 3

110. Kidwainagar Kanpur

111. Kakowan - do-

112. Dhourhara Lakhimpur Kheri

113. Aliganj - do-

114. Aurangabad Lakhimpur

115. Lakhani Lakhimpur

116. lucknow-sitapur Road Lucknow

117. Itaunja · do .

118. LKO Sitapur Rd. • do -

119. MG Road, Lucknow - do .

120. Aliganj 'G' · do -

121. Aliganj 'H' - do -

122. Gomati Nag~r - do-

123. Rattanlal Nagar - do -

124. LKO-Barabanki Rd. · do -

125. Rahimabad - do -

126. LKO-Sultanpur Road, lucknow · do-

127. Kakori Bus Stand, Lucknow - do -

128. Biswar Mathura

129. Bajna Town - do-

130. Mailaban - do-

131. Mathura City - do-

132. Chatabipar - do- 211 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 212

1 2 3

133. Lalitpur Lalitpur

134. Gauna Lalitpur

135. Delhi Merrut Road Meerut

136. Mawana - do -

137. Kithore - do -

138. Bijpur Mirzapur

139. Klloil - do -

140. Whydomganj - do -

141. Obila - do -

142. Sijhad - do -

143. Muirpur - do -

144. Naugaon Sadat Moradabad

145. Soadhan - do -

146. Pathakpur - do -

147. Moradabad - do -

148. Bilari - do -

149. Saidnagli - do-

150. Moradabad (Civil Lines) - do -

151. Sheshpur Jaunpur

152. Hasanpur Moradabad

153. Sirsee - do -

154. Bhojpur - do -

155. 8ehjoi - do- 213 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 214

1 2 3

156. Amroha - do-

157. Chajlet - do-

158. Bairaj Muzaffarnagar 159. Khatima Nainital

160. Dineshpur - do -

161. Thalisen Pauri Garhwal

162. Rampur Pratapgarh

163. Rampur Rampur

164. Safnl - do -

165. Village Pa1wai - do-

166. Khemri - do -

167. Kehapur - do -

168. Raeusa Sitapur

169. Pisanwan - do -

170. Chamba Tehri

171. Ghansalim Tehri Garhwal

172. Oeoprayag Tehri

173. Bangaramau l.!nnao

174. Safipur Unnao

175. SakaJdiha Varanasi

176. Gyanpur - do-

177. Rajatalab - do-

178. Mahawalpur - do-

179. Naugarh - do- 215 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 216

1 2 3

180. Mirzamurad - do-

181. Jangiganj - do-

182. Between Varunapur & Comm. Bungalow - do-

183. Hinoti, Varanasi - do-

184. Sindhora, Varanasi - do -

185. Chenhia, Varanasi - do -

186. Dharchula Pithoragarh

187. Jaitpur - do -

188. Fatehgarh F arrukhabad

189. Rohi Rae Bareillv

190. Transport Nagar - do -

191. Jayas - do -

192. Mahardjganj - do -

193. Hanumangarh Bazar Allahabad

194. Jagatpur - do -

195. Baldiana U. Koshi

196. Bhatwari U. Koshi

197. Reharia Lakhimpur Kheri

198. Dhanepur Gonda

199. Gonda LKO Road - do -

200. Mahuwa - do -

201. Tarabganj - do-

202. Kalsia Saharanpur 217 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answsrs 218

1 2 3

203. Allahaganj Shahjahanpur

204. Mehroni LalitplJr

205. Baragaon Jhansi

206. Bhagwantpur - do-

207. Gangochai Pilibhit

208. Dhata Fatehpur

209. Gajnir Kanpur

210. Bichwa, Mainpuri Mainpuri

211. Ninpuri Bye -Pass Mainpuri - do-

212. Makhanpur - do -

213. Bhowali Almora

214. Shergarh Bareilly

215. Bansdih, Ballia Ballia

216. LFlharpur Sitapur

217. Atarai - do -

218. Rampur-Mathura - do-

219. Mehemoodabad - do-

Power Deficit in Tamil Nadu (c) the measures taken to increase power supply to the State? 7666. SHRI A. JAYAMOHAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the details of power deficit in Tamil DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Nadu during tJ'1e last two years: TRY OF ENERGY (SHAI KALPNATH RAI): (a) The power deficit in Tamil Nadu during ,(b) the quantity of power supplied from 1987-88 and 1988-89 was 10.7% and 6.7% Central Grid: and respectively. 219 Writt9n Answers MAY 2,1989 Written AnsMHS 220

(b) The quantity of power supplied from during the last three years, year-wise; Central Stations to Tamil Nadu during 1988- 89 was 3737 Million Units. (c) whether the names of banks author- ised to collect payment of electricity bills are (c) Various steps are being ta~en to also proposed to be printed on them for the increase the availability of power in the State, benefit of the consumers; and which include expediting commissioning of new capacity, optimum generation from the (d) if not, the reasons therefor? existing capacity, reduction of transmission and distribution losses and implementation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of energy conservation and demand man- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- agement measures. In addition, the State TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): would also get its share of power from the (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. According to DESU, Central Stations in the Southern Reg;on. To they have entered into contrads with the the extent possible assistance would also following two advertising agencies for insert- continue to be provided to Tamil Nadu from ing advertisements on the electricity bills:- the unallocated portion of power from the Central Sector Stations in the Southern (i) MIs Bensons Syndicate, 203, De- Region as wen as from the neighbouring fence Fty-over. New De'hi for issu- systems. ing advertisements on 20 lakh bills which are prepared manually by DESU. earning by DESU Through Advertise- ments (ii) MIs Ben Advertisers. 1124, Asaf Ali Road. New Delhi for advertisements 7667. SHRIMATID.K. BHANDARI: Will on the computerised bills which are the Minister of ENERG Y be pleased to state: got prepared by DESU from out- side computer agency. (a) whether a large number of adver- tisements appear on the electricity bills is- The approximate revenue eamed sued by DESU; from the above two advertising agencies during the last 3 years is (b) if so, the earnings made therefrom as under:-

1986-87 Rs.47.000.00

1987-88 As. 75,000.00

1988-89 Rs. 21,000.00

Total As. 1,43,000.00

(c) and (d). Yes. Sir. REDDY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Low Tenaton power line. In the institu- tional area behind OUtab Hotel Deihl (a) whether the low tension power lines have not been provided in the lnstitaAional 7668. SHAI K. AAMACHANDRA Area near Qutab Hotel. Delhi even aft4r a 221 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) lapse of three-four years causing undue and AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- continued hardship to the occupants due to TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.l. temporary electricity connection; and BHAGAT): (8) No. Sir. The time for morning transm ission has been extended from 7.00 (b) if so, the steps taken by DESU to to 8.45 a.m. only from 1.5.1989. expedite laying of low tension power lines and to provide permanent connections in (b) No, Sir. this area? (c) It has always been the endeavour of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Doordarshan to improve upon its DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- programmes. This is a continuous process. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): Letters received from viewers and sugges- (a) and (b). According to Delhi Electricity tions of the Programme Advisory Commit- Supply Undertaking, the electricity system tees at various Doordarshan Kendras are established in the Institutional Area a few taken into consideration while planning pro- years back needs augmentation for meeting grammes. the additional load requirement in view of the subsequent development of the area. Con- sequently, an electrification scheme was Installation of long distance public prepared by DESU in consultation with telephon•• ln Orl... D.D.A., who were requested on 21.11.1988 to make payment of their share amounting to 7670. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the Rs. 55,54,8801-. DESU can take further action Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased in the matter on receipt of the payment from to state: the DDA. (a) the places in Orissa where long Breakfast T.V. Programme distance public telephones were installed during 1988-89, district wise; and 7669. SHRI R.M. BHOVE: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- (b) the places where such telephones CASTING: be pleased to state: are proposed to be installed during 1989·90, district-wise? (a) whether the extension of Break-fast T.V. Programme time from 7 to 9 a.m. has seriously affected the daily routine of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE people, office employees and particularty MINISTRY OF COMMUNtCATIONS (SHRI the school going children. GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a> 1S4 places have been covered by Long Distance Public (b) whether Doordarshan is facing a Telephones during 1988-89 in Orissa. Dis- 'quality crisis' these days as extension of trict-wise detaifs are given in the Statement time is only adding to dull programmes; and below.

(c) if so, the steps proposed to improve (b) 160 places are proposed to be the quality of programme instead of merely - covered by LOPT during 1989-90. The places extending the timings? are decided during the course of the year depending upon the availability of equip- THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY ment and technical feasibility. 223 Writtel1 Answers MAY 2,1989 Writtsn Answers 224

51. No. District Number of Places

1 2 3

1. Balasore 14

2. Bolangir 16

3. Cuttack 20

4. Dhenkanal 11

5 Ganjam 7

6. Kalahandi 4

7. Keonjhar 21

8. Koraput 2

9. Mayurbhanj 6

10. Sambalpur 12

11. Sundergarh 8

12. Phulbani 1

13. Puri 12

Total 134

~ Commissioning of Hirakud Hydel Hydel Power Station has also been commis- Power Statton Units In Orissa sioned; and (c) if not, when this unit is expected to 7671. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Wi" the be commissioned? Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the number of units of the Hirakud DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Hydel Power Station in Orissa commissIoned TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): so far: (a) The following units at Hirakud Stage -I & Stage -II have been commissioned in Orissa (b) whetherthe Seventh Unitof Hirakud and are in operation: 225 Written AnsW9fS VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 526

S. No. Name of the Proje.ct Installed Capacity Total (MW) (MW)

1 2 3 4

I. Hirakud Stage- I (Burla) 4x37.5 + 2x24 198

II. Hirakud Stage- II (Chipfima) 3x24 72

(b) No, Sir. and motorcycles manufactured in the coun- try during 1987-88 and 1988-89; and (c) The Seventh Unit is likely to be commis- sioned by January, 1990. (b) the action taken or proposed to increase their production? Manufacture of trucks, cars, scooters and motor cycles THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- 7672. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The production of these vehicles during the pe- (a) the number of trucks, cars, scooters riod is indicated below:

1987-88 1988-89

Medium & Heavy Com. vehicle 65086 78225

Passenger car 151875 166098

Scooter 589790 729421

Motorcycle 33568C 428944

(b) sufficient capacities have alrHady (b) if so, the present production per been set up for the manufacture of these annum and the projected increase; vehicles to meet tho demand. Their produc- tion is increasing from year to year signifi- (c) whether imports of Paraxylene will cantly. be stopped; and

Production of Paraxyine (d) If so, when?

7673. SHRI K. PBADHANI: Will the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir.

(a) whether the indigenous production (b) to (d). The production of Paraxylene of ParaxyJene is likely to be increased in the in 198B was around 30,000 tonnes. With the near future; comnletion of projects under implementa- 227 Written Answers MAV2.1989 Written AnsMHS 228 tion, the production capacity for Paraxylene remained inoperational since its installation will increase to around 1,45,000 TPA. How- in July 1988 due to defective 550-tonne ever, even thereafter, there will be gap be- power support units; tween demand and domestic availability which shall have to be covered through (b) how long it will take for the machin- imports. ery to be ready for operation and the revenue loss to the company in terms of production Eye Injuries to T.V. Viewera and monetary value every month;

7674. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAl: (c) whether any responsibility has been Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND fixed therefor; and BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (d) if so, the action proposed to betaken (a) whether according to some experts/ in the matter? Ophthalmists, the telecast of t~ epic serials has increased incidents of eye injuries, THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI especially among children between the age- VASANT SATHE): (a) to (d). The supports group of five and seven; and rear shields of the longwall equipment for Dhemomain underground mine of East- (b) if so, the reaction of Government ern Coalfields Ltd. had developed cracks at thereto; and the installation stage. The matter was pur- sued with the suppliers of the equipment and (c) how Doordarshan proposes to the suppliers have agreed to replace the educate the viewers against such eye Inju- defective parts with imported ones and the ries? face is expected to be ready for operation by October, 1989. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- The notional loss in terms of production TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. and money has been estimated at about BHAGAT): (a) and (b). There is no evidence 50,000 tonnes and around Rs. 1.8 crores. to suggest any specific damage to the eyes respectively per month. The cumulative on viewing the telecast of epic serials or any production loss on account of the defects other programme on television. during 1988-89 is estimated to be about 4.5 lakh tonnes and the corresponding mone- (c) Does not arise. tary value of the production is around As. 16 crores. Loss suffered by Eastern Coalfields Ltd, due to Dhemo underground min. Supply of coal to Gujarat

7675. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAl: 7676. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: state:

(a) the loss suffered by the Ea~tern (a) whether a number of small scale Coalfields Ltd. during 1988-89 in terms of industries are on the verge of closure in production and monetary value due to the Gujarat due to irregular supply of coal; new long wan coal mining machine of the Dhemo Main underground mine having (b) the annual requirement of coal in 229 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 230

Gujarat and the actual supply made during VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. the last three years; and

(c) the steps taken or proposed to be (b) Demand of coal and coke for indus- taken to arrange regular supply of coal of tries in Gujara1 sponsored by Government of Gujarat? Gujara1 and actual receipt during the last THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI three years are as under:

(No. o( Four Wheeler Wagons)·

Year Sponsorship Actual receipt

1986 51612 23448

1987 52450 22097

1988 54270 19074

* Capacity : about 23 tonnes).

(c) The coal is being despa1ched by coal the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to companies against sponsorship/recommen- state the country-wise break-up of the for- dationsofthesponsoring authorities. In case eign collaborations and investments ap- of rail shortfall, coal is released by road also proved during 1986 and 1987? as per the entitlement of consumers. Cor.- stant liaison is maintained by Coal India and its subsidiary companies with Railways and State sponsoring agencies to ensure ade- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE quate and regular coal supplies to all the DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- States including Gujarat. Meetings are also OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- held by coal companies with coal consum- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Two ers' associations in case of specific prob- Statements I & II showing country-wise lems. breakupofforeign collaborations and invest- Foreign collaborations ments approved during 1986 and 1987 are 7677. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will given below. 231 Written Answers M.A, Y 2, 1989 Written Answsrs 232

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STATEMENT-II

Country-wise Break-up of Foreign Investment approved during 1986 & 1987

(Rs. in /akhs)

51. No. Name of the Country 1986 1987

1 2 3 4

1. Australia 59.20 188

2. Austria 36 44

3. Bahama

4 .. Belgium 275

5. Baharain 1 ..... 6. Bulgaria 8

7. Canada 138 67

8. Czechoslovakia 90

9. Denmark 66 19.44

10. Dubai 55

11. FRG 2015.73 986.91

12. Finland 360 69

13. France 204.82 535.35

14. G.D.A. 48

15. Hong Kong 91.10 113.2

16. Hungary ..... 70

17. Iran 3.62

18. Italy 232.95 297.07

19. Japan 561.61 690.62

20. Korea (South) 6.25 13.91 241 Writtsn Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answ91S 242

1 2 3 4

21. Malaysia 21 50

22. Mexico 80 120

23. Netherlands 726.60 00.65

24. Norway 192

25. Panama 16

26. Saudi Arabia 40

27. Singapore 25 85.32

28. Spain 299 100

29. Sweden 475.15 109.2

30. SWitzerland 325.28 ~85.3

31. Taiwan 14 40

32. UK 771.53 845.1

33. USA. 2936.90 2951.49

34. USSR 29.60

35. Yugoslavia 12

36. NRI 790.40 2077.4

Total 10695.15 10770.57

Participation of AJ.R. Staff in A.I.R. (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Programmes in Tamil Nadu (c) the steps taken or proposed to 7678. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Mtn- discourage this practice? ister of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- ING be pleased to stata: THE MINISTEROF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- (a) whether the staff of AIR Station in TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.l. Tamil Nadu are given opportunities to par- BHAGAT): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Certain ticipate in the Radio Programmes: ':ategories of programme staff namely, 243 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written AnswelS 244

Announcers, Instrumentalists etc., are re- (a) the central investment made so far quired to participate in programmes in ac- in public sector projects in Maharashtra; and cordance with their contracts and quality of performance. There has been no complaint (b) the details of the projects set up, of outside talent being denied opportunities employment generated and the number of for participation in programmes because of local people given benefits? staff's participation in programmes. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (c) Does not arise. J. VENGAl RAO): (a) The Central invest- ment in terms of gross block in the State of Amounts outstanding against Public Maharashtra as on 31.3.88 upto which pe- Sector Undertakings riod only the information is available was Rs. 13936.23 crores. 7679. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY b& pleased to (b) There are 30 central Public Sedor state: Enterprises set up with registered offices in the State of Maharashtra. Number of public (a) the total amount of loans and other sector enterprises employees working in debts outstandings against various public Maharashtra is 2.32 lakhs. Details of local sector undertakings; people employed are not available.

(b) whether the terms and conditions of Soviet assistance for Neyvell Lignite the various lending institutions are being Power Station followed by the public sector undertakings for repayment; and 7681. SHRI T. BAlA GOUD: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (a) whether the techno-economic feasi- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI bility report for the third power station in he J. VENGALRAO): (a) Total amount of loans Neyveli Lignite Corporation Complex has and debts outstanding against various pub- been prepared; lic sector enterprises a~ on 31.3.88, upto which period only the information is avail- (b) whether the report has been final- able is Rs. 46QS2.11 crores. ised only after Soviet Government's offer to help India to set up 500 MW lignite super (b) and (c). Terms and conditions of agriculture boilers; and repayment of loans are followed.except where thefinanciai position of the enterprises makes (c) if so, the extent of credit agreed to by it difficult for them to repay loans and pay the Soviet Union to cover the entire cost of interest in time. Enterprise-specific action the project? is taken by Government in suc" cases. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Central Investment In Public Sector VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). Feasibility Projects tn Maharashtra reports of the third thermal power station (3x500 MW) linked to the third lignite mine 7680. SHRI GUAUDAS KAMAT: Will (11 million tannes per year) at Neyveli were the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to prepared by the Neyveli lignite Corporation state: in 1984. The reports could not be processed 245 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 246

further for approval due to resource con- the proviso to sub-section (4) of Section 210 straints. Later, an agreement was reached in of the Companies Act, 1956 liberally, to the principle on possible cooperation between extent permissible under the Companies India and the USSR for setting up these Act, 1956 if the companies make such re- projects. NLC and the Soviet side are hold- quest for purposes of compliance of the ing technical discussions. The extent of Soviet provisions of Direct Tax laws (Amendment) assistance will depend upon the outcome of Act, 1987. these discussions, the techno-economic appraisal of the projects by the Government (c) and (d). Under Section 219 of the and negotiations with the Soviet side. Companies Act, 1956. as amended by the Companies (Amendment) Act. 1988. brought SUpply of Annual Report to Sharehold- into force w.e.f. 17.4.1989, in the case of a ers company, whose shares are listed on a recognised stock exchange, it is open to it to 7682. DR. B.L. SHAllESH: Will the send either complete Annual Report etc. or Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: a statement containing the salient features of the balance-sheet and Profit & Loss ac- (a) whether action has been initiated to count etc., in the prescribed form to every gear up the companies to fall in line with the member of the company not less than 21 requirements of the new uniform accounting days before the date of the meeting. The year; statement containing salient features thereof has been prescribed vide Notification GSR (b) if so, the details in this regard: No. 449 (E) dated 17.4.1989, publishea in the Gazette of India, a copy of which will be (c) whether under the new arrange- laid before the House. ments. the companies will not have to send necessarily every shareholder an Annual (e) The statement containing salient Report with a complete financial statement features of balance-sheet and profit &. Loss as in the past, and a summary of the financial account gives adequate information about performance during the year will only be the financial position of a company. sent; Assets of large Industrial House. (d) jf so, whether a format of this has been worked: and 7683. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (e) wt.ether it will give complete infor- mation to the shareholder to have an idea of (a) whether there has been a sleep rise the companies' financial health? in the assets of some of the large Industria! Houses and concentration of more financial THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE power in their hands during the last three DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- years: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (b). Registrars of Companies have been advised to grant extension of time for holding (c) the steps being taken to check the annual general meetings under the second growth of these Industrial Houses? proviso to st&-section (1 ) of Section 166 and permission to extend financial year under THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 247 Written Ans wers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 248

DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- presently being telecast at the prime time OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- and later from the principal TV Station viz. TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (~ The New Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, Madra~ assets of the first twenty large Industrial Lucknow on the national hook-up; Houses in the country ranked according to their assets in 1987-88 increased by 30.40/0, (b) the estimated revenue accruing to 22.4% and 11.0% during 1985,1986-87 and Government therefrom; 1987-88 respectively over the preceding years. (c) the details of various TV serials awaiting telecast after having been approved (b) The assets of the large Industrial by Doordarshan authorities and the esti- Houses increase due to various factors like mated revenue expected therefrom; expansion, diversification, establishment of new undertaking, modernisation, amalga- (d) the present set-up charged with the mation etc. clearing of ti1ese TV serials and the latest guidelines laid down in this behalf, particu- (c) Through the administration of the larly the viewers' propensities; and MRTP Act it is continuously ensured that concentration of economic power to com- (0) the popularity rating cf the two TV mon detriment does not take place. serials "Mahabharat" and "Uttar Ramayan"?

T.V. Serials THE MtNtSTEROF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- 7684. DR. S.L. SHAILESH: Will the TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- BHAGAT): (a) The serials talacaston prime CASTING be pleased to state: time on the national network are relayed by all Kendras simultaneously. The s~rials being (a) the details of various TV sArials telecast at prime time are given below:

(1) Lahar Lahar Sangeet Sunday 9.00 p.m.

(2) Doctor Sahib Monday 9.00 p.m.

(3) Life Line Tuesday 9.00 p.rTI.

(4) Malgucli Days Wednesday 9.00 p.m.

(5) Guftgoo Thursday 9.00 p.m.

(6) Uttar Ramayan Friday 9.00 p.m.

(7) Kissa Shanti Ka Snturday 9.00 pm.

(b) It is not possible to estimate the (c) The list of senals approved and revenue 1rom these serials as it would de- awaiting telecast on the r.ational network is pend on the number of advertisements given in the statement below. It is not pos- booked with the serials, which vary from time sible to indicate the e5tlmated revenue frum to time. these serials for the reasons mentiont)d at 249 Writttln Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written AnswBIS 250

(b) above. 12. Muzrim Hazir Hai

(d) There is a Selection Committee at 13. Mahanagar Doordarshan comprising non-official and official members to scrutinise and approve 14. Kuch Khoya Khuch Paya the proposals for TV serials. The broad guide- lines applied for selection of serials are that 15. Ek Kahani they should promote the socio-cultural val- ues like human unity and harmony I equal 16. Kathasagar respect to all religious, rejection of violence, communal rivalries and tensions, liberation 17. Mr. Yogi from superstitions and prejudices etc. 11 is also ensured that the serial is fit for family 18. Nupoor viewing and at the same time it entertains, educates/informs. 19. Tribal people of North East

(e) As perthe latest survey undertaken 20. Kab Tak Pukaroon by MRAS (as outside Market Research Agency), the rating of Mahabharat was 80% 21- Manjil Apni Apni (Parivartan) in the first week of April and that of Uttar Ramayan was 72%. 22. Ganiram

STATEMENT 23. Jantar Mantar

List of serials approved and awaiting 24. Yah Gulistan Hamara telecast 25. Khel Tamasha 1. Boond Boond 26. 8argad 2. Super six

3. Alag 27. Gadbad Gudde

4. Space City 28. Tipu S41tan

5. Yugantar (Jagriti) 29. Pui

6. Lok Lok Ki Saat 30. Potli Sudhe Saba Ki

7. PC 1008 31. Gharana

8. Panchtantra (animated) 32. Kitne Aur Himalay

9. Sauda 33. Inside Story

10. ZaJ"l1een 34. Janki Jasoos

11. Gaurav 35. lehre Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 252

36. Forts of India syrups, etc.;

37. Shuttle Time with Prakanh (d) whether Government have pre· Padukone scribed any limit on expenditure on publicity by the multinational drug companies; 38. All the best (e) if so, the details thereof; and 39. Maila Anchal (f) the steps being taken by Govern- 40. Sunhere Warq ment to ensure that these companies spend a definite percentage of their total expendi- 41. Hitopdesh ture on pharmaceutical research?

42. Athawan Rang THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). Under the 43. Animal Folk Tales OpeD, 1987the scheduled drugs have been classified into two categories, MAPE (MaxI- 44. Letters to the Daughter mum Allowable Post Manufacturing Ex- penses) at the rate of 75% and 100% is 45. Kayer allowed in the case of Category I and Cate- gory II formulations respectively. 46. Lahoo Ke Phool (c) The product mix of the Companies, 47. Chalte Raho Chalte Raho including multinational companies, is gov- erned by various factors such as their licens- 48. Chanakya ing authorisations, demand and marketabil- ity of the products. 49. A day in the life of celebrity. (d) No, Sir. [ Translation] (e) Does not arise.

Expenditure on Publicity by Multina- (f) As per Fifth Schedule of OPCO, tional Drug Companies 1987 a higher rate of maximum pre-tax re- turn on the sales turnover of formulations, 7685. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Will the has been provided in the case of u~its having Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: basic drug manufacturing activity at 5G/~ or more of turnover and engaged in approved (a) whether drugs have been divided research and development work relating to into four categories under the Drugs (Prices new drugs, to encourage research activity in ., Control) Order, 1987; drugs.

(b) if so, the details thereof and percent- [Eng/ish] age of profit in each category; Steps to Save Consumers from (c) whether multinational drug compa- Counterfeit Goods nies manufacture less medicines of first and second categories and are making huge 7686. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: profits by producing third and fourth cate- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to gory medicines like tonics, vitamins, cough state: 253 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answ9fS 254

(a) whether Government have been (b) and (c). Do not arise. taken any steps to save the consumer from purchase of counterfeit goods; and Project to produce AmlnoacJds

(b) if so, the details thereof? 7688. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (a) whether a project to produce ami- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- noacids from human hair has been started in TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and Pondicherry for export; (b). Provisions for protection of consumers against unfair trade practices are contained (b) whether the export arrangements in CH. V-8 (Sec. 36-A to 36-E) of the MRTP have been finalised and if so, the details Act, 1969, which have been introduced by thereof; the MRTP (Amendment) Act, 1984. Com- plaints from consumers which relate to (c) the approximate foreign exchange counterfeit goods fa!1 within the provisions of likely to be generated therefrom; and Section 36-A(i) of the Act and the Commis- sion tnkes action on such complaints as (d) whether the commercial production provided for under the said Act. has since started?

The Government has also enacted a THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI comprehensive consumer protection legis- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (d). MIs Protchem lation, namely, the Consumer Protection Act, Industries (India) Limited had applied for 1986 which envisages three-tier quasi-judi- permission to produce amino acids from cial machinery at n3tional. state and district human hair for 100% export in Pondicherry level to deal with the cases of defective and they have been given a Letter of Intent. goods and services. unfair trade practices A bond has been executed with theJt. CCI&E, etc. Mad(as on 10.2.1988 for finalising export obligation. In their application the company Patent for Cardamom Cola has indicated foreign exchange earnings of Rs. 567 lakhs. To the extent information is 7687. SHRI H.A. DORA: Will the Min- available, commercial production is yet to ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: start.

(a) whether the Spices Board has Employment of Local People In LPG applied for patent for Cardamom Gola: Unit of BPCL in , Andhra Pradesh (b) if so, the details thereto; and 7689. SHRI B.B. RAMAIAH: (c) the reaction of Government thereto? SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- WAAA RAO:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) No, (a) whether Government have received Sir. any representation that local people are not 255 Written Answers MAY 2, 1989 Written Answers 256 getting adequate benefit of employment in (a) the names of the Extra Departmen' the LPG Unitofthe Sharat Petroleum Corpo~ tal Sub-Post Offices, district-wise down~ ration Limited near Kondapalli village in graded to the status of extra Departmental Krishna District of Andhra Pradesh: and Branch Post Offices in Himachal Pradesh during the Seventh Plan on the plea that (b) if so, the action taken thereon? these EDBOs had been upgraded earlier on account of p.e.o. facility installed in them; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- (b) whether a request has been re- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) No. ceived by Government for restoration of the Sir. status of the downgraded EDBOS so as to provide the Postal and Telecom. facilities for (b) Does not arise in view of (a) above. a longer period in the rural areas served by these Post Offices after restoration to their Upgradation of Extra Departmental original status; and Branch Post Offices In Andhra Pradesh (c) if so, the likely date which the resto- 7690. SHRI B.B. RAMAIAH: Will the ration would be ordered? Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (a) whether there is a proposal to re- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The informa- structure the post offices set up in Andhra tion is furnished in the Annexure. However. Pradesh in view of the new revenue Mandai the reason for downgr ading these offices set up which has replaced the Taluk set up; was inadequate workload. and (b) Yes Sir, The request was, however, (b) if so, the details thereof and the with particular reference following branch steps taken or proposed to upgrade the extra offices, departmental branch post offices located in the mandai headquarters to the status of 1. Kathog 2. Bagli 3. Challali 4. SaraH extra departmental sub-post offices to facili- 5. Kiroha 6. Swahan 7. Naswal 8. Behani tate receipt of telephone bills from the sub- 9. Jhaniari 10. Deothsid 11. Lohara 12. scribers? Kungret 13. Palukwah 14. Barsalbasar 15. Masroor 16. Sunhat. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (c) In view of the constraints involved, GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). The Postmaster General, Himachal Pradesh information is being collected and will be laid Circle has a bewen asked to asr.ertain from on the Table of the House. the State Government whether Non-Return- able Contribution (NRG) could be offerea for Restoration of Status of ED Sub Post the upgrading of same of the branch offices. Offices downgraded in Himachal The report of the PMG is awaited. Pradesh V.H.F. links 7691. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- ASHAR: Win the Minister of COMMUNICA- 7692. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- TIONS be pleased to state: ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- 257 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 258

TIONS be pleased to state: ten parties have paid the final demand notes for the installation of twenty five line ex- (a) whether a number of V.H.F. links changes and link them to trunk exchanges; have been planned for installation during and 1989-90; (9) if so, the names of such places and (b) if so, the names of the places in the likely date by which the installation of the Himachal Pradesh where these would be V.H.F. links would be completed, district- installed. district-wise; wise?

(c) t~ programme of installation for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE each quarter during 1989-90, district-wise; MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. (d) whether preference would be given to link such places to V.H.F .• where atleast (b)

S.No. Name of route Name of district

1. Hamirpur-Kakkar Hamirpur

2. Hamirpur-Sujanpurni -do-

3. Una-Chintpuri Una

4. Dharamshala-Shahpur Kangra

5. Dharmshala-Nagorta-Surian -do-

6. °alampur-Chadiar -do-

7. Palampur-Thural -do-

8. Chamba-Khajlar Chamba

9. Dalhousie-Baklot -do-

10. Dalhousie-Salooni -do-

(c)

Name o'Ors. Hamirpur Name of Districts

Una Kangra Chamba

1 st Qr. ? C)ystem 2nd Qr. 1 sys. 1 sys 3rd Qr. -2 sys. 4th Qr. -1 sys 3 sys. (subject to availability of the equipment) 259 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 260

(d) No such preference is given. TIONS be pleased to state:

(e) Does not arise. (a) whether the construction of Depart- mental Post Office buildings at Paragpur Installation of Public Call Offices In (District Kangra), Nadaun and Bijhari (Dis- Himachal Pradesh trict Hamirpur), Ghumarwin (District Bilaspur, Amb (District Una) and Jvalamukhi (District 7693. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- Kangra) in Himachal Pradesh has been ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- included in the programme for 1989-90; TIONS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the likely date by which the (a) the number of public Call Offices construction work for each one of these sanctioned but not installed under various buildings would be taken in hand, the esti- categories like Hexagon, R&G Terms and mated cost and the likely period for the Local, State-wise and their names under completion of the buildings; and each category for Himachal Pradesh, dis- trict-wise, as on 31 March, 1989; (c) if not, the lates position regarding the acquisition of land in such cases among (b) whether there are any cases of such them, where they have not been included in P .C.O.s among them which are pending the annual programme for 1989-90? installation for over four years, over three years, over two years but less than three years and over one year but less than two THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE years; MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIOHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). The (c) if so, the numbertherPOf, Statewise, annual Building Plan 1989-90forthe Depart- and the names for each such category for ment ')f Posts has not yet been finalised. Himachal Pradesh, district-wise; Complaints about Short Payment from (d) whether any programme for the Passbooks in Koraput P .C. installation of all such Public Call OfficAS as have been sanctioned for over one year 7695. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: would be drawn up for installatio:1 during Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 1989-90; pleased to state:

(e) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether any complaints were re-

Construction of Buildings for Depart- (b) if so, whether any enquiry was made mental Post Offices in Himachal into the matter; and

7694. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- (c) the action taken against the postal ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- employees found guilty? 261 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 262

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RAL GAS (SHRIBRAHM DUn): (a) There MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI are at present four Oil Selection Board in the GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No, Sir. country with the following areas of operation of each: (b) and (c). Do not arise. 1. Oil Selection Board (North): LPG Facility in MaharE!shtra Delhi, Chandigarh. Haryana, Jammu & Kashmir, Himachal 7696. SHRI ARVIND TULSHIRAM Pradesh, Punjab, Rajasthan and KAMBLE: Will the Ministerof PETROLEUM Uttar Pradesh. AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 2. Oil Selection Board (South): (a) the number of cities in Maharashtra Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, proposed to be provided with LPG facility Karnataka, Kerala and Pondich- during 1989-90; and erry.

(b) the reasons for delay in providing- 3. Oil Selection Board (West): PG facility to the cities already sanctioned for Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Ma- it? harashtra, Goa, Daman & Diu.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 4. Oil Selection Board (East): West MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- Bengal, Orissa, Bihar, Assam, RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) and Mizoram, Arunachal Pradesh, (b). In addition to the existing facilities, the oil Manipur, Meghalaya, Nagaland, companies have plans to set up 171 mew Sikkim and Tripura; LPG distributorships in Maharashtra, under their Annual LPG Marketing Plans upto 1988- (b) As on 1.4. 1989, the pendency 89. A number of steps and formalities pre- position is given below: cede the actual commissioning of LPG dis- tributorships. o S B (North) 243

Working of Oil Selection Boards OS B (South) 96

7697. SHRI AAVIND TULSIRAM OS B (East) 690 KAMBLE: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: OS B (West) 342

(b) the number of Oil Selection Boards (c) As the oil industry conducts field in the country and the areas assigned to surveys and draws up its annual Marketing them; plans for setting up of different types of facilities on a continuous basis. pendency at (b) the number of cases pending with any given point in time is normal. each of them separately; and Regularisatlon of AJ.R./Doordarshan (c) the reasons therefor? Artistes

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 7698. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the Minis- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- ter of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- 263 Written Answers MAY 2.1989 Written Answers 264

ING be pleased to refer to the reply given on Kraftwerk Union is a subsidiary, for the November, 1988 to Unstarred Question No. manufacture of large size Gas Turbines, 660 regarding regularisation of AIR/Door- BHEL have also decided to amend the exist- darshan Artistes and state: ing technical collaboration with General Electric Company of USA to include manu- (a) the follow-up steps taken so far to facture of higher size Gas Turbines and to implement the Supreme Court Judgement; have a collaboration for Haulage Dumper and Electricals. The terms and conditions will be fin~lised at the time of signing of the agree- (b) the response of the staff artistes ment. thereto? Manufacture of 011 Drilling Equipment THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- 7700. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will the TION ~ND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL BHAGAT): (a) and (b). The Government GAS be pleased to state: has since prepared a revised scheme and filed it in the Supreme Court on 24.11.1988. (a) whether private sector has been The National Union of All India Radio and permitted to manufacture sophisticated oil others, the Petitioners in the Supreme Court drilling and production equipment which have also filed their objections on 31.1.1989. continue to be imported; No final directions have been given by the Supreme Court and the matter continues to (b) if so, the details thereof; be sub-judice. (c) whether the manufactures would Technological tie-ups by BHEl with also be permitted to export their products: General Electrics and Kraftwerk Union (d) the extent of foreign exchange likely 7699. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the Minis- to be saved by the Oil and Natural Gas ter of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Commission; and

(a) whether the Bhara1 Heavy Electri- (e) the time by which the private compa- cals Ltd, has decided to go into technological lies would commence production? tie-ups with the General Electrics and Kraftwerk Union; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- (b) if so, the details thereof, including RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) to (e). terms and conditions of these tie-ups; and There are a number of companies in the private sector who have been permitted to (c) the details settled about payments in produce equipment, materials and providing terms of lump sum, royalty etc. in rupeel services for the oil field related sectors. Some foreign exchange for the collaborations? of these have already started operating. There is no general ban on exports of these THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI items. The value of foreign exchange sav- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). BHEL have ings would depend on the extent to which decided to have technical collaboration with these companies can produce according to MIs. Siemens of West Germany of which the requirements of ONGC. 265 Writtprt Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnSW8f.9 266

Financial position of N. T. P.C. develop digital electronic switching system suitable for Indian conditions. 7701. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) Rs. 35 crores in the first phase commencing from August, 1984toJuly, 1987. (a) whether the financial position of the State-owned National Thermal Power Cor- (d) Small exchanges of 128 port capac- poration is on the decline; ity are being manufactured since 1987 while medium (512 Port) and large size (1600 (b) if so, the reasons for decline in Port) exchanges will btl ready for production profitability; and this year.

(c) the steps being taken to arrest the Financial Assistance to Small Seal. sharp deceleration in the profits of the Na- Industries tional Thermal Power Corporation? 7703. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- state: TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): (a) No. Sir. (a) whether Union Government con- tinue to provide financial assistance to small (b) and (c). Do not arise. scale industries; and

Designing of Digital Electronic Tele- (b) if so, the funds allocated to States for phone Exchanges the purpose during the last three years, State-wise? TiU2. SHRI SRIKANTHA DAnA NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- to state: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (a) whether it is proposQd to design (b). Financial assistance to States fordevel- indigenous digital electronic telephone ex- opment of small scale industries is being changes: provided through schemes like District In- dustries Centres Programme, Self Employ- (b) if so, the steps being takt"- in this ment Scheme for Educated Unemployed regard; Youth (SEEUY), Margin Money Scheme for (c) the cost of the project; and Revival of Sick units and Interest Subsidy to Engineer Entrepreneurs (discontinued with (d) the year by which indigenous digital effect from 31.3.1985 but the residual claims electronic telephone exchanges are likely to are being reimbursed to the States). Under be ready? SEEUY Scheme the Central Government are providing 25% as Capital Subsidy on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE each loan. The subsidy ;5 routed through the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (S~~AI Reserve Bank of India. The State wise de- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. tails of financial assistance provided to small scale units under these schemes during the (b) Centre for Development of Tele- period from 1986-87 to 1988-89 are given in matics (C-DOT) was established in 1984 to the statement below. 267 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 268

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Utilisation of Sewage Water for Power bioges generation and gas utilisation system Generation subject to maximum of As. 25.00 lakhs for the plant other than under Ganga Action 7704. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Wilt Plan. Assistance has been provided to the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased to state: Padrauna (UP). Bhopal (MP), Vijayawada (AP) and Bangalore (Karnataka). The Cen- (a) whether an experiment in Delhi has tral Ganga Auth:>rity ;s renovating or con- shown that power can be generated from structi~g 35 Sewage Treatment Plants sewage water; (STPs) in the three States namely Uttar Pradesh (UP) (13 Nos, at a cost of Rs. 60.58 (b) if so, what steps are being taken to crores) Bihar (7 Nos. at a cost of As. 8.71 utilise sewage w~ter in other Statos for power crores) and in West Bengal (15 Nos. at a cost generation; and of As. 37.95 crores). Facilities for generation of bio-energy are proposed to be incorpo- (C) the Central a~sistance to be given to rated in 12 STPs in U.P., 2 in Bihar and 10 in States in this regard? West 8engal.

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Coal Link-age to Manuguru Super VASANT SATHE): (a) Ves, Sir. The biogas Thernlal Power P~ant generated from anaerobic digestion of sew- age sludge obtained after treatment of sew- 7705. SHRI V. SOBHANADRE;ES- age water can be used in blogas or dual fuel WARA RAO: Will the Minister of ENERGY engines for power generation. At Okhla, be pleased to state: Delhi Sewage treatment plant, the gas gen- erated is being piped for ~ooking by about (a) whether it IS proposed to provide 4.000 families. Three Generators of 250 coal linkage to the propvsed Manuguru Super KVA each have also been installed at Okhla Thermal Power Plant from the open cast Sewage Treatment Plant to generate power mine at Manuguru; from sewage gas as a stand by arrange- ment, sholJld grid supply fail. (b) if 50, the details thereof; an

(b) and (c). Setting-up of primary sew- (~) if not, the reasons therefor? age treatment plant is a pre-requisite for separation of sewage sl:Jdge and generation THE MINISTER OF ENERG'y' (SHRI of biogas. This is a municipal function and is VASANT SATHE): (a) and (c). The coal the responsibility of the concerned State production in Manuguru area of SCCL is GovernmentslLocal Bodies. The Departr"ent 2.10 m. tonnes (1988-89) and it will increase of Non-Gonventional Energy ,Sources is to about 2.52 m. tonnef :n 1989-90 and 4.55 encouraging and planning recycling of wastes m. tonnes by 1994-95. The Question of coal for energy recovery therefrom undel its Waste linkage forthe proposed Manuguru TPS has Recycling and Resources Recovery Sys- been examined in the Department of Coal. tems (WRRRS) Demonstration Programme. Looking to the demand and supply position Sewage Gas and night soil recycling are of coal in respect of Godavari Valley Coal- important components of the WRRAS. As a field during the Eignth Plan period it has not fiscal incentiva fa,' the initi~1 plants the been found possible to pro'/ide coal linkage ONES is meeting 50-75% capital cost of the to the proposed Manuguru TPS. 275 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 276

Power Generating Units In Private expansion; and Sector (c) if so, the details thereof? 7706. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- WARA RAO: Wi!1 the Minister of ENERGY THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN- ISTRYOFENERGY(SHRIKALPNATHRAI): (a) (~) the number of power generating In 1947. there were 229 power generating units in private sector set up before inde- units (Companies) in the private sector in the

pendence and still working as on 1 st Janu- country J of which seven were working as on ary,1989; 313t March, 19S8.

(b) whether some of thesa units (b) and (c). The requisite details are as have applied for financial assistance lor follows:

Name of the Company Ncm1e of the Project Financial assistance sanctioned/applied

1 . Mis Tata Power Companies (i) Trombay Thermal Power US $ 135.4 million Project-Unit-VI (500 MW) (world Bank).

(i i) Salsette Switching Station:

(i ii) Grant Roari Suh-Station; US $ 38-40 million (International Finance Corporation)

(iv) Dharavi SWItching StatIon: and

(v) Tromhay-Dharavi 220 KV line

2. Mis Ahmedabad Combined Cycle Power US $ 20 million (Inter- Electricity Co. Ltd Plant (100 M'N\ nationC:t1 Finance Corporation)

Cordless Telephones GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir.

7707. SHRI V. KRISHNA RAG: Will the (b) The information is being collected Ministerof COMMUNICATIONS be pleaserf and will be Idid on the Table of tho House. to state: (a) whether cordless tel~phones are Dostal and Telecornmunlcatlon Proj~cts being used in the country; and in Orissa (r) if ~O, thd r.umber thereof? 7708. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI: THE MINISl t.R OF STATE IN THE. \AJili the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be MiNISTRY OF ~OMMUNICATIONS (SHRI pleased to state: 277 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 278

(a) whether Orissa Government has (a) the number of villages in Rajasthan requested Union Government for sanction- proposed to be electrified with the help of ing some postal and telecommunication solar and wind energy; and projects in that State on a priority basis; (b) the arrangements made to super- (b) if so, the details thereof; and vise the work of electrification of these vil- lages? (c) the steps being taken by Union Government to expedite sanction to those THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI projects? VASANT SATHE): (a) 4BQ villages have already been provided with Solar photovoltaic THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE street lighting systems as a measure of initial MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI electrification of these villages in Rajasthan. GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Requests About 200 more villages are expt!cted to be have been received from State Government provided wIth solar street lights during the authorities for opening of post offices at 7th Plan. Some solar power packs for pow- certain places. No request has been made in tHing lights have also been set up at commu- respect of telecommuniration projects. nity centres, primary he..llth centres, educa- tion centres in different villages in Rajast- (b) The post offices requ~sted for are han. In addition, 52 .30lar photovolta;c pow- for the following places: ered television sets have also been installed in different locations for community viewing. (i) Sanmangaraj (Cuttack District) 3 small wind battery charges (1 Kw (ii) Na tho~ur (Cuttack District) each) have also been installed in Army es- tablishments (c:lt Jodhpur.. Pokharan and (i ii) Gogua (Sall1balpur District) Jaisalmer) in Rajasthan. One more wind battery charger (1 Kw capacity) is under (iv) Manikjodi (Dhenkanal District) ins~allation at Jodhpur. In addition, a 25 Kw stand-alone wind electncgen@ratorhas bAen (v) Nayapath area (Pur; DIstrict) installed in the campus of B.S.F. ,Jaisalmer. (\Ii) Nikhira (Baleswar) (b) Supervision of the work relating to (vii) Pahava (Cuttack) solar and wind energy installations including maintena'1ce has been entrusted to the (viii) Balaranpur (Cuttack) State nodal agency namely Rajasthan Energy Development Agency with financial (ix) Raitala (Ohen'

7709. SHRI V!RDH' CHANDER JAIN: 7710. SHRI VIRDHI :HANDER JAIN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to WIIi the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be statf?: pleased to sta!e: 279 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 280

(a) whether Government propose to [ Translation] provide telex and teleprinter services in the major towns of Rajasthan during 1989-90; Manufacture of Power Generation and Equipment by BHEL

(b) if so, the details thereof? 7711. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- MOOWALIA: SHRI KAMLA PRASAD AA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE WAT: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes. Sir. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) (i) Notional Telex Exchanges are proposed to be commissioned at Bikaner, (a) whether the Bharat Heavy Electri- Bharatpur, Mount Abu and Abu road. cals Limited has not received enough orders for manufacturing power generation equip- ment despite Government's decision to in- (ii) It is proposed to introduce tele- crease power production in the country dur- printer services at the following 12 stations ing the Eighth PI~n: during 1969-90: (b) the details of tresh orders received by the company till March, 1989; 1. eTa Jaipur to Srimadhopur. (c) whether these orders can be exe- 2. to DAUSA cuted by utilising only a part of the total capacity of the company; 3. to Renusal. (d) if so, the details in this regard; 4. eTO Ajmer to Makrana. (e) whether orders have also been 5. to Diswana. placed recently on some foreign companies for supply of power generation equipment; 6. to Kuchamancity. and

7. eTO Udaipur to Nathdwara. (f) if so, the details thAreof and reasons therefor? 8. CTO Chjttorg~rh to Nimbahera. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI 9. DTO Sikar to Fatepur J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (b). At the end of March, 1989 BHEL had orders for 13, 317

10. OTO It to Nawalgarh. MW of power generation equipment for benefits in the 8th Plan. During the year 88- 11. OTO " to Neem Ka Thana. 89 the Company received orders totallir,g 1470 MW for thermal sets, 1050 MW for 12. OlO jhunjhunu to Pilani. boilers and 1161 MW for Hydro sets. BHEL 281 Written AnsWBn:' MAY 2,1989 Written Answel8 282 has adequate capacity to execute these costing Rs. 20 crores and above which were orders. under implementation on 31.12.88. Out of the above, there was slippage in construc- (e) Yes, Sir. tion for various reasons in respect of 42 projects. The present anticipated cost in (f) While primarily reliance for power regard to these 42 projects is As. 4299.00 generation equipment is placed on indige- crores approximately againstthe sanctioned nous sources, recourse is made to import of cost of As. 2930.31 crexes i.e. an increase of these equipment in terms of financial assis- about Rs. 1369 crores. It is not PoSSible to tance obtained from external sources, in the quantify the increase in cost due to delay context of constraint of resources. only as cost increase affect ·on schedule' projects also due to normal escalation of Cost escalation of the Coal input costs each year. Projects [English] 7712. SHAI BALWANT-SINGH AA- MOOWALlA: Ftegionallmbalances In Industrial SHAI DINESH GOSWAMI: Development

Will the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased 7713. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- to state: CHANDRAN: \tVill the Minister of INDUS- TRY be pleased to state: (a) the number of coal projects sanc- tioned by Government for construction dur- (a) whether Government have pre- ing 1988; pared any special plan to remove regional imbalances in industrial development; and (b) the numberof projects compleled as on31.12.1988. (b) if so, the details thereof?

(c) whether due to non-completion of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE th9se projects within the stipulated period, DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- their cost of construction has increased OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- substantially; and TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b). In order to remove regional imbalances (d) if so, the total cost of these projects in Industrially Backward Districts of the and the estimated ('ost escalation due to country, the Government has provided cer- delay? tain incentives/concassions such as priority in the grant of Industrial Licences, Conces- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI sions under the Income Tax Act, Conces- VASANT SATHE): (a) A total of six projects :)jonal Finance, etc. In addition to the Central (mining and non-mining) were sanctioned by Investment subsidy scheme which was ex- Government during 1988. tended upto 30th September, 1988.

(b) As on 31.12.1988, a total of 132 Extension of Posta i Services to La- projects (mining and non-mining) costing kshadweep from Callcut and Cochln As. 2 crores and above were completed. 7714. SHRI MUllA~PAll Y RAMA- (c) and Cd). There were 66 projects CHANDRAN: Will the Ministe·r of COMMU- (mining and non-mininp) sanctioned by Govt. NICATIONS'be pleased to state: 283 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written AnsMH'S 284

(a) whether any arrangements have language-wise, to whom only a few of these been made to extend postal service to La- advertisements were given during 1988-89; kshadweep from Calicut and Cochin; and

(b) if not, the reasons therefor: (d) the reasons for the selection of these newspapers as against other newspa- (c) whether there is any Postal Central pers in the country, as well as the reasons for Office located in any of the Islands of La- giving some advertisements to all and other kshadweep to supervise/monitor the postal advertisements only to selected newspa- services; and pers?

(d) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI BHAGAT): (a) to (d). The requisite informa- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). Mails tion is being collected and will be laid on the for Post Offices in all the ten inhabited is- Table of the House. lands of the Lakshadweep group of islands is routed through Cochin only. There is no Transmission of Malayalam Programmes direct mail link from Calicutto Lakshadweep. at Palghat through Microwave link All kinds of mails for post offices in La- kshadweep, Minicoy and Aminidweep is- 7716. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: lands are being despatched from eachin Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND through Vayudoot thrice a week, by helicop- BROADCASTING be pleasE:id to state: ter once a wEek and by ship as and when available. \a) whether Government have taken any final decision providing t:,e microwave (c) and (d). There is no postal Central or link to Palghat to facilitate transmission of administrative office to supervise/monitor Malayalam programmes from the low power post offices in Lakshadweep Minicoy and transmitter there; and Aminidweep islands. The management control and supervision of these post offices (b) if so, the details thereof? lies with Ernakulam postal Division.

UPSC Advertisements to Newspapers' THEMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- 7715. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.l. Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BHAGAT): (a) and (b). The feasibility of BROADCASTING be pleased to state: linking the low power (100 W) TV transmitter at Palghat with Doordarshan Kendra, Tri- (a) the total number of UPSC advertise- vandrum via microwave circuit for enabling ~ ments released during 1988-89: to relay Malayalam programmes produced and telecast by Doordarshan Kendra, Tri- (b) the names of newspapers, lan- vandrum has been examined in consultation guage-wise which were given all these ad- with the Department of Telecommunications vertisements during 1988-89; and it has not been found technically feasiblo to establish this link during the V!I Plan (c) the na~es of other r.ewspapers, period. 285 Written Answ91S MAY 2,1989

UrJagram Projects In Orissa (b) if so, the details thereof;

7717. SHRISOMNA.THRATH: Will the (c) how many low A.I.R. stations and Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: T. V. centres are proposed to be established in Orissa during the next five years; and (a) the number of villages identified in Orissa for establishing Urjagram projects (d) whether it is proposed to set up AIR with their names; station at Aska in Gunjam district; if so, when? (b) the number of villages in which the work has been completed; and THEMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARV AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- (c) the villages in Arka Parliamentary TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. Constituency where Urjagram project is being BHAGAT): (a) to (c). As a part of the implemented; if not, the reasons therefor? approved VII plan, the following projects in Orissa are at various stages of implementa- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI tion: VASANT SATHE): (a) Urjag.ram projects are under-implementation in Laimura and AIR Banigochha villages in Deogarh and Bhu- baneshwar Parliamentary constituencies (i) Establishment of five new Radio respectively. Energy surveys are in progress Stations one each at Bolangir, in the other constituencies to select villages Baripada, Rourkela, Berhampur for Urjagram projects. and Bhavanipatna; and

(b) Six Urjagram projects had already (ii) Replacement of the existing 20 been completed in Orissa before the pro- KW MW transmitter at Jeyopore gramma for parliamentary constituencies was by a 100 KW MW transmitter. taken-up. DOORDARSHAN (c) Energy surveys are in progress in Soba and Tiribarichokeipali villages of Aska (i) Replacement of the existing low Parliamentary Constituency in the State power (100 W) TV transmitter at towards selection of a village for establish- Bhavanipatna by a high power ment of an Urjagram project in this constitu- (10 KW) TV transmitter; ency. (ii) Establishment of two low power Enhancing Power of T.V. Transmitters (100 W) TV transmitters one each In Orissa at Bhanjanagar and Keonjhar- garh; and 7718. SHRISOMNATHRATH: Willthe Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- (iii) Establishment of a transposer at CASTING be pleased to state: Sunabeda.

(a) whether there IS any proposal to The aforesaid information does not enhance the broadcasting range of some include the projects to be set up in Orissa low power AIR stations and T.V. Centres in under the VIII plan, the extant of which is ,/ Orissa during the next five years; dependent on allocation of resources. 287 Wrhten Ans~ VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnsW8IS 288

(d) No, Sir. reference is to setting up of 61 Growth Centres in the country. Growth centre. scheme Apart from the cost of the land and ~s 7719. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- development, the other items that will be HIT: eligible for financing underthis scheme would PROF. RAMAKRISHNA be:- MORE: a) Construction of access roads; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to refer to the reply given on 28th b) Provision of water supply; February, 1989 to Starred Question No. 99 regarding setting up of growth centres and c) Eftluent disposal system; state: d) Upgradation of existing (a) the details of infrastructural facmties schools colleges, industrial on which Union Government will invest their training institutes, hospitals, contribution for the growth centres to be set dispensaries etc; up in the no Industry districts in the countrY; and e) Upgradation of housing stock;

(b) the extent to which these will help in f) Provision of telacommunica- achieving the target to boost industries in the tion facilities; and No Industry districts? g) Distributionlletwork for power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE wfthin the ,Growth Centre. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Tile broad financing pattern for devel- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and opment of infrastructure in the selected (b). Presumably. the Hon'bla Member's Growth Centres would be as foliows:-

1. Central Government (Equity) Rs.10 Crores

2. State Government (Equity) As. 5 Crores

3. All India Financial Institutions (Includin~ As. 2 crores as equity) As. 4 Crores

4. Nationalised Banks As. 1 Crore

As. 20 Crores

Market borrowings As. 10 Crores

Total Rs. 30 Crores Since these Growth Centres are to act in the country, they are expected to give tre· as magnets for attracting industries to Back- mendous boost to industrialisation of Back- ward Areas which would be endorsed with ward areas. best infrastructural facilities at par available 289 Written Answe/S MAY 2,1989 Written Answs/S 290

In""latlon of Additional Capacity the steps being takan or proposed by Gov.. during Eighth Plan ernment to save these mini cement pienta?

n20. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE HIT: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- SHRI JAGANNATH OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- PATINAIK: TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b). Representations have been received Will the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased from the Associations of Mini Cement Plants to state: indicating the problems faced by them and seeking various fiscal and financial incen- (a) the additional capacity proposed to tives. To improve the economic viability of be installed by the National Thermal Power mini cement plants. a concessional rate of Corporation (NTPC) during the Eighth Plan excise duty of Rs. 115 per tonne has been period; and prescribed with effect from the 1 st March, 1989, for cement manufactured in such a (b) the details of the power plants plant with the total licensed capacity not including the gas-based projects in which exceeding 200 lonnes per day, as against the capacity will be increased? the ganeral excise duty rate of Rs. 215 tonne. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): Recommendations of RaJan Committee (a) and (b). As per present assessment, an and Madan Kishore Committee on E.D. additional capacity of 11,150 MW is pro- Employees posed to be installed by the National Ther- mal Power Corporation (NTPC) during the 7722. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will Eighth Plan period. The NTPC have formu- the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be lated proposals for the expansion of the pleased to state: Farakka Super Thermal Power Station (by 500 MW), the Rihand and Vindhyachal Super (a) the major recommendations of Rajan Thermal Power Stations (by 1000 MWeach) Committee and Madan Kishore Committee and the Anta Gas-based Power Station (by regarding ED employees; 430 MW). (b) which of these recommendations Mini cement plants were accepted by Government and when; and 7721. SHRI MOHANBHArPATEL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (c) the recommendations which have state: not been accepted and the reasons there- for? (a) whether most of the mini cement plants have been closed down or are facing great difficulty in marketing their products THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE owing to the competition with big cement MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI plants; and GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). The information is being collected and will be laid (b) if so, the details in this regard and on the Table of the House. 291 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 292

C8pacHy utilisation of BHEL manufacture of Thermal and hydro power equipment, boilers and capacity utilisation 7723. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: during each of the last three years and th]e SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RA- current year? WAT: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Wi" the Minister of INDUSTRY be J. VENGAL AAO): The installed capacity pleased to state the installed capacity of the and capacity utilisation of BHEL for power Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited for the generation equipment is as under:-

S.No. Equipment Installed % Capacity utilisation capacity 86-87 87-88 88-89 89-90 (Provisional (Budget- estimates) ted)

1. Thermal Turbine- 4500 MW 45 40 79 73 Generator Sets

2. Hydro Sets 1345 MW 32 25 15 39

3. Boilers 1,65,000 MT 101 99 94 88

[ Translation] (b) Besides the three low power (100 W) and three very low power (2x10 W) TV Raising Height of TV Tower at Almora transmitters presently functioning at Almora (2 x 10 W), Haldwani (2x 10 W), Kausanr 7724. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the (2x10 W) Nainital (100 W), Pithoragarh (100 Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- W) and Tanakpur (100 W), two more very CASTING be pleased to state: low power transmitters are under implemen- tation at Ranikhet and Dharchula in Kumaon (a) whether Government propose to Division of Uttar Pradesh as part of the increase the height of TV tower at Almora Seventh Plan. Further expansion of TV serv- with a view to expand Doordarshan facilities Ice in the hilly areas of Uttar Pradesh includ- in hilly areas of U.P. especially in Kumaon ing Kumaon Division would depend upon Division; and availability of resources for the purpose in the future plans of TV expansion. (b) if so, when and if not, !he alternate steps proposed to be taken to expand Door- Rural Electrification Scheme of Almora darshan facilities in these areas? and Pithoragarh, U.P.

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY 7725. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Willthe AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.l. BHAGAT): (a) The antenna of the TV (a) the number of electrification schemes transmitter at Almora is mounted on a mast received by the Rural Electrification Corpo- of standard height and no useful purpose ration from Almora and Pithoragarh districtS would be served by increasing its height. of U.P. during the last one year; 293 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 294

(b) whether these schemes have been production achieved during the period was approved; 44 milti~n tonnes (provisional). The produc- tion of cement in the country is sufficient to (c) if so, the details thereof; and meet the domestic demand.

(d) if not, when these are likely to be (b) and (c). The numberof applications approved? for the manufacture of cement which are at verious stages of processing is as under: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Large Sector 4 TRYOF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): (a) Rural Electrification Corporation has not Mini Sector 11 receiv~d any Rural Electrification Scheme from Uttar Pradesh State Electricity Board Total 15 for Almora and Pithoragarh districts during 1988-89. (d) While representations have Deen received from the Association of Mini Ce- (b) to (d). Do not arise. ment Plants indicating the problems faced by them and seeking various fiscal and fi- [English] nancial incentives, it cannot be said that a large number of these plants have closed Production of Cement down.

7726. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Wi" Power Production and Consumption In the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to States state: 7727. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Will (a) whether the country has become the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: self-sufficient In cement production; (a) whether Government had under- (b) whether Government have received taken a State-wise power survey to find out any proposal to establish more cement plants the power production and its consumption; in the country; (b) if so, when the survey was con- (c) if so, the number of applications for ducted and the findings thereof; big and mini cement plants pending forclear- ance;and (c) the suggestions made for improving the power supply in those States which are (d) whether a large number of mini- facing power crisis; and cement plants have been closed down, if so, the reasons therefor? (d) the steps taken by Government to implement these suggestions and to meet THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the power requirements in the country? DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Against the target of 43.50 million tonnes of TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): cement production fixed for 1988-89, the (a) to (d). The requirement of electricity, in 295 Writt9n Answers MAY 2,1989

terma of energy and peak demands, for Engine Size range Minimum drawing up power programmes is projected kilometres per litre at the national as well as State level under a at 50 KMPH system of periodic power surveys. The Thir- Upto 800 c.c. 22 teenth Eledric Power Survey Committee was constituted by the Government in Feb- Above 800 c.c. upto 1000 c.c. 20 ruary, 1986, to review the demand projec- tions in detail keeping in view the Seventh Above 1000 c.c. but upto 1400 c.c. 18 Plan proposals and to project the perspec- tive demand upto the year 2000/05. The Above 1400 c.c. 16 Committee submitted its report in Decem- ber, 1987, which forecasted the power re- quirements and availability upto the end of [ Trans/ation] the Eighth Plan (1994-95) and the power requirements from 1994-95 to 2004-05. No Upgradatlon of Post Office In HilA of suggestions for improving the power supply Nalanda District (Bihar) position in the countrylStates were made in the report. 7229. SHAI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- As this is a continuous process, the TIONS be pleased to state: Fourteenth electric Power Survey Commit- tee has been constituted in February, 1989, (a) whether there is a proposal to up- to review the demand projections in detail grade the post office HUsa Sub-division of keeping in view the Eighth Plan proposals Nalanda district (Bihar) to cope with the and to project the perspective demand upto requirements of that area; 2009-10. The Committee will submit its re- port by 31st December, 1990. (b) if so, when the post office is likely to be upgraded; and Fuel .fflclency norms for production of cars (c) if not, the reasons therefor?

7728. SHAI H.A. DOAA: Will the Min- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). A pro- (a) whether Government have pre- posal for upgrading Khodaganj branch post scribed any norms for improvement of the office in Hilsa Sub division as a Sub post fuel efficiency for the production of cars; and office was examined and found not suitable as the proposal did not satisfy the prescribed (b) if so, the details thereof? norms.

TV Transmitter In Blhar-Sharlef, Bihar THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- 7730. SHAI RAMASHRAY PRASAD OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- SINGH: Will the Minister of INFORMATION TRY (SHRt M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (b). Yes, Sir. The fuel efficiency norms effective from 1.4.89 in respect of passenger (a) whether there is any proposal to cars are as under:- install a low-power TV transmitter In Bihar- 297 Written AnswelS VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnsWBIS 298

Sharief in Nalanda district of Bihar; [English)

(b) if so, the details thereof; and Allocation for Rural Te'econlmunlcatlon Programme (c) if not, the reasons therefor? 7732. SHRf LAKSHMAN MALLICK: THEMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTAAY Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be AFFAIRS AND MINJSTER OF JNFORMA- pleased to state: TI0N AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) and (b). No, Sir. There is no (a) whether Government have since such proposal under the consideration of finalised the rural telecommunication pro- Government at present. gramme for the next five years;

(c) A substantial part of Nalanda district (b) if so, the broad outlines of the of Bihar including Bihar-Sharief falls within programme; and the coverage area of the high power (1 OKW) TV transmitter functioning at Patna. Any (c) the funds allocated for the purpose, further strengthening of TV s~rvice in the State-wise? area (as also. other parts of the country similarly placed) would depend upon the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE availability of resources for this purpose in MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI the future plans of TV expansion. GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). No, Sir. However plan for 1989-90 has been S.T.D. Facility in Bihar·Sharief (Bihar) finalised. According to which it is planned to open 3000 Long Distance Public Telephone 7731. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD & 1000 small Automatic Exchanges in the SINGH: Will the Minrster of COMMUNICA- Rural Areas of the Country subject to availa- TIONS be pleased to state: bility of equipment.

(c) No separate funds for these works (a) whether it is proposed to provide are allocated. The expenditure is met from S.T.D. facifity In Bihar-Sharief (Bihar); the lump sum grant placed at the disposal of the head of the circles.

(b) if so, the time by which this facility;s Post Office Building In Edathwa In likely to be provided there; and Alleppey District, Kerela

7733. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA- (c) if not, the reasons therefor? MAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether there is a proposal to con- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI struct a departmental building to house the GIAIOHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). S. T.O. Post Office functioning at Edathwa in AlJep- service at Bihar sharief (Bihar) has been pey district, Kerala; introduced with effect from 31 st March. 1989. (b) if so, whether the land has been (c) Does not arise. acquired for the purpose; and 299 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written AnswslS 300

(c) if so, when the construction work of 5 Kms of any inhabitation and the countrY the building is expected to be completed? has been divided into hexagons of 5 Kms size for this purpose; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (b) if so, the number of hexagons situ- GtRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). No, ated in each State and the hexagons which Sir. The acquisition of land for construction have been provided with long distance pub- of building to house the Post Office at lic telephones; and Edathwa is in progress (c) the hexagons in Kerala which have (c) Does not arise. not been provided with this facility so far?

Hexagons Provided with Long Distance THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Public Telephones MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a). Yes, Sir. 7734. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA- MAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- (b) The information is given in the TIONS be pleased to state: statement below.

(a) whether a target has been set by (c) Six hexagons in Kerala Circle have Government to provide long distance public not been provided with telecom. facility as on telephones on a fully subsidised basis within 31-1-88.

STATEMENT

Status of Telecom facilities in inhabited hexagons in Rural areas as on 31.3.88.

S. No. State/Circle Inhabited Hex agons covered hexagons with te/ecom. facility/ LOPT.

1 2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 4991 4690

2. Assam 1718 679

3. Gujarat

Dadra Nagar 2504 1596

Daman & Diu

4. Haryana 616 511

5. Himachal Pradesh 575 255

6. Bihar 4740 2023 301 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Writt9n Answers 302

1 2 3 4

7. J & K 786 254

8. Karnataka 3648 2523

9. Kerala 536 531

L. Dep Island 10 9

10. Madhya Pradesh 6453 3434

11. Maharashtra 4811 2711

Goa 31 31

12. North East:

Arunachal Pradesh 105 47

Manipur 390 60

Meghalaya 461 77

Mizoram 159 12

Nagaland 337 53

Tripura 141 92

Total 1593 341

13. Orissa 2110 1026

14. Punjab 771 554

15. Rajasthan 6075 2123

16. Tamil Nadu 1661 1602

Pondicherry 11 11 .

17. Uttar Pradesh 4055 2526

18. West Bengal 2551 968

A & N Islands 131 15

Sikkim 44 29

Total: 50,421 28.447 303 Written Answers MAY 2, 1989 Written AnsMtIS 304

World Bank Assistance for Projects In (c) the time by which the pending appli.. Keral. cations are expected to be cleared?

7735. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAt --pleased to state: GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The total number of applications for telephone con- (a) the power projects in Kerala which nections pending with different exchanges in have been extended financial assistance by Kerala State as on 31 st March, 1989 is the World Bank; 1,13,023.

(b) the amount of assistance received (b) and (c). It is proposed to increase for each project; the exchange capacity by 19,1000 lines during 1989-90 and about 15,000 net con- (c) the money already spent on these nections are likely to be provided during projects; and 1989-90 utilising this capacity. Remaining applicants are likely to be provided tele- (d) the time by which these projects phone connections progressively during would be completed? Eighth Plan.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Integrated Services Digital Network In DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Bangalore TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): (a) and (b). The World Bank has extended a 7737. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will loan assistance of US $176.00 million forthe the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be composite Kerala Power Project which in- pleased to state: cludes the Lower Periyar H.E. ProJect. (a) whether it is proposed to provide (c) The utilisation of the loan by Febru- integrated services digital network in Banga- ary, 1989 was US $ 13.047 million. lore city;

(d) All the three units of Lower Periyar (b) if so, the total cost of the project; and H.E. Project are likely to be commissioned during 1991-92. (c) the advantages of the project; and

Pending Applications for Telephone (d) the time by which the work will be Connections in Kerala taken up and completed?

7736. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI TIONS be pleased to state: - GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No, Sir. How- ever, an experimental Integrated Services (a) the total number of applications for Digital Network (ISDN) Project to develop new telephone connections pending with and test some ISDN features is proposed in different exchanges in Kerala; Bangalore.

(b) the steps being taken to meet the (b) Estimated cost of the experimental demand; and project is Rs. 59lakhs. 305 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answ9fS 306

(c) The experimental project will help in ture to be incurred thereon; and development of indigenous technology in this newly emerging field and give feedback (c) the quantity of powerto be produced relating to potential of the ISDN in our envi- from this plant? ronment. It will also assist in form ulating suitable technical specifications for equip- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ment and services relating to ISDN. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): (d) Activities on the project have started (r> There is no proposal. at present, to set up in the month of December 1988 and are ~ thermal power plant at Thorangal in Karna- expected to be completed by the end 1990. taka.

Laying of Pipeline between Bombay (b) and (c). Do not arise. High and Mangalore S.T.D. Facility at Kollur and Dharmast- 7738. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will hala, Karnataka the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GJ) S be pleased to state: 7740. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (a) whether Government have made pleased to state: any survey for laying oil pipeline between Bombay High and Mangalore; (a) whether it IS proposed to provide STO facility in Kollur and Dharamasthala (b) if so, whether any project report has pilgrim centres in Karnataka, and been prep;:lred; (b) if so, the steps taken to provide STO (c) the total cost of the project; and facility at these places?

(d) whether any provision has been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lHE made in the 1989-90 budget for this work? MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) There is no THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE proposal at pr esent to provide STO fac.ility to MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- Kollur Clnd Dharmasthala. RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTl): (a) There are no plans to lay a pipeline between (b) Does not arise. Bombay High and Mangalore. Import of Crossbar Equlpments (b) to (d). Do not arise.

Thermal Plant at Thorangal, Karnataka 7741.SHRI BHADRESWARTANTI:WiII the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 7739. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYEA: Will pleased to state: the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether Penta-Conta type of cross- (a) whether a thermal plan1 is proposed bar equipments were imported; to be set up at Thorangal in Karnataka: (b) if so, whether some defects were (b) if so, the total antiCipated expendi- ind~ntified in the equ;pment~; and 307 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 308

(c) the corrective steps taken in this (a) the number of branch and sub-post regard? offices proposed to be opened in the rural areas of Assam in 1989-90; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (b) whether villages of all districts in GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). Yes, Assam have been identified forthis purpose; Sir. and

(c) After the installation of first few ex- (c) if so, the details thereof? changes and after observation of the per- formance. a number of defects were noticed. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE It was fait that some modifications/lmprove- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI meilts in the equipment were necessary to GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) 208 branch suit the traffic condItions obtainrng in India post offices and 3 sub post offices are to be and also to overcome the defects observed. opened 10 Assam in the first quarter (April- These were proaressively implemented In June) of 1989-90. The further programme the equipment alrGady insta!led and those for the year envisages opening of 140 more that were in production. branch offtces in the State.

Opening of Branch and Sub-Post Offices in Aural Areas of Assam (b) anci (c). The list of 208 branch post offices and 3 sub post offices referred to in i742.SHRIBHADRESWARTANTI:Wili (a) above IS furnished in the Statement be- the Minister 0: COMMUNICATIONS be low. The Villages to be covered in the further pleased to state: programme have not yet been identified.

STATEMENT

LIst of branch post offices and sub post offices due to be opened in Assam during the first quarler of 1989-90

SI. No. Name of the 80 Division

1 2 3

1. Fetagaon Jerhat

2. 8agdaba Nalbari

3. Mrt)klJrI Jorhat

4. Sotai TE -do-

5. Electrical vQng NC Hills

6. Jama~pur Cachar

"I. Meleng Jorhat 309 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 310

1 2 3

8 ... Bhuyankhat Darrang

9. Balijan Amtenga Golaghat

10. Namrupia Jorhat

11. Dewangaon -do-

12. Shohguri Kacherigaon -do-

13. Rabigaon Sibsagar

14. Chenigaen Kamrup

15. Lonku NC Hills

"i6. Maibongdl~ha -do-

17. Sankri Bagan -do-

1B. Garhpa Dibrugarh

19. Impoi (Hindu) NC Hills

20. Kanabasti -do-

21. Kange -do-

22. Narainpur -do

23. Nayagram Karimganj

24. Ratakandi Cacher

25. Shyc-mthai 8Ftri Kokrajahr

26. Hangaiikhata -do-

27. Pulunga Dibrugarh

28. Kathal-Gurigaon -00-

29. Stiantc.li Nagaon

30. Bokakhat Go'aghat 311 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answ91S 312

1 2 3

31. Defalakata North Lakhimpur

32. Lag uaborahg aon -do-

33. Mahaijan -do-

34. Kanpatni -do-

35. Khajupatir -do-

36. Garaimari -do-

37. Hengalpara Darang

38. Mikiirbar achuk Sonitpur

39. Silonigaon -do-

40. 8agipukhuri Darang

41. Rakhalbasti Cachar

42. Gangpardhumkar -do-

43. Chengjuri Grant -do-

44. Kalrpur Nalbari

45. Silaipai Dhubri

46. Digha1ijuli Sonitpu

47. Nanipur Nagaen

48. Sonarigaon -do-

49. Pukarkota -do

50. Kukurkata Golpara

51. Hc.loadal Kokrajah

52. Tctli~luri Golpara

53. Jayhhum -do- 313 Written AnsWflrs "VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answ9fS 314

1 2 3

54. Khalgaon Kokrajahr

55. Khardang Goalpara

56. Ammkata Kokrajhar

57. Batabari -do-

58. Melemora Golaghat

59. Maladahra -do-

60. Mohpara -do-

61. Palagi Panch ali North Lakhimpur

62. Anerta Nagaon

63. DwalJungphang Karbt Anglong

64. Lurulangso -do-

65. Gopalnagar Nagaon

66. Napambruitl Sibsagar

67. Dlffloo Golaghat

68. Dagaon Sibsagar

69. Kalchenl Nalbari

70. Lachltnagar Dlibrugarh

71. Nilmoni Drbrugarh

72. t"orest BazRr Karbi Anglong

73. Kalminl Dlbrugarh

74. Dlkheri Morangaon -do-

75. Chh31ebrla Kokrajhar

76. Oangsipara -do- 315 Written AnSW91'S MAY 2, 1989 Written An... 318

1 2 3

77. Patpara Goalpara

78. Joyma Kokrajhar

79 Pakadal North Lakhimpur

80. Barjhara Goalpara

81. Mahakhowa Dibrugarh

82. Khatargaon Sonitpur

83. Kamlabari Berpeta

84. 8ebeligaon North Lakhimpur

85. Bulakata -do-

86. Kalazal Kamrup

87. Balikuchi -do-

88. Pecharia -do-

89. Kuwarpur -do-

90. Khorikot -do-

91. Panikhaiti -do-

92. Hangrum NC Hills

93. Phongland Karbi Anglong

94. Diphu Govt Collegq -do-

95. Garhkhuti Nagaon

96. Rajbari North Lakhimpur

97. Sagarpur -do-

98. Uanikchuk -do-

99. Puli-Naha-Reni -<10- 317 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) Written An• ...,. 31.

1 2 3

100. lalmati-Gaon Oibrugarh

101. Lekumai -do-

102. Ghuguloniahom -do-

103. Banipur -do-

104. Tenga-Basti Son itpu r

105. Halemguri -do-

106. Kalakuchi Darang

107. Barnagaon -do-

108. Oepalchung GoJpara

109. Majerchar Dubri

110. Oighaltari -do-

111. Maktaigaon Kokrajhar

112. Goalgaon Jorhat

113. Telekhalu Karimagang

114. Alamkhani -do-

llS. Magani Son itpu r

116. Bahbari Darrang

117. Chantipara -do-

llS. Jaharnachar Dhubri

119. Silchang Nagaon

120. Tarabasa Karbi Angtong

121. Oayang eelguri Nagaon

122. Bhalaoghat Karbi Anglong 319 Written Answers MAY 2.1989 Written Answers 320

1 2 3

123. Hacharagaon Nagaon

124. MaliTlura Darrang

125. Tamulbari -do-

126. Durapara Kamrup

127. Teteliguri Karbi Anglong

128. Gosaihat Kamrup

129. Dolebari Sonitpur

130. Tokradia Kamrup

131. Lalmauguri Sonitpur

132. Depeopi -do-

133. Chandrapara Kokrajhar

134. Pahuchungi Pathar Sibsagar

135. Bechimari Darrang

136. Mangalian Bazar Kokrajhar

137. 8arigaon Golpara

138. Padupuri Darrang

139. Dillighat Sibsagar

140. Nemaigarhhbari -do-

141. Muktapur Nalbari

142. Raipur Barpeta

143. Bihopara Kamrup

144. Kharsitha Nalbari

145. Kathalbari -do- 321 WItttM Ans.... VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Wrirten 4nSwelS 322

1 2 3

146. Dalban -do-

147. Pakhamara -do-

148. Mahimari Kamrup

149. Nichilamari Darrang

150. Sastapara -do-

151. Ghogra Bazar -do-

152. 8erghuli Sapmeri Nagaon

153. Dighalieti -do-

154. Nibukali -do-

155. Chalapathar -do-

156. Punjabar Palhar Karbi Anglong.

157. Padumpukhuri -do-

158. Charakani -do-

159. Langbungdi Karbi Anglong

160. Panjuri -do-

161. Ambuk Goalpara

162. Latibari -do-

163. Mandira Kamrup

164. Joysagar Nalbari

165. Galia Barpeta

166. Dong hap Karbi AngJong

167. Utterpet Borha Nagaon

168. Fulteri Bazar -do- 323 Written AnslHlS MAY 2,1989 Written AM_,. 324

1 2 3

169. Lachitpather -do-

170. Wirwar Karbi Anglong

171. Bowarghat Cochar

172. Hidalatari Nalbari

173. Kharaiguri Sonitpur

174. Bashbari Cachar

175. Bagls Road Chowk Nalbari

176. Hatinga Sonitpur

177. Barpathar Sibsagar

178. Mahederpur Cachar

179. Bagalghat -do-

180. Tarabari Kalsilasatra Nagaon

181. Choudhurirchar Dhubri

182. Pub-Barameheri Nalbari

183. Bhuaguri Darrang

184. Shimari Sonitpur

185. Mukaligaon -do-

186. Singitali -do-

187. Dhvllie Kuhuarbari -do-

188. Paken No. -do-

189. Shiber Chak Karimganj

190. Pirnagar Cachar

191. Mokhuli Nagaon 32S Wr;n.n Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnsW81S 326

1 2 3

192. Dirai TE Dibrugarh

193. Gharbandi Barunpukhuri -do-

194. Bakuajari Natbari

195. Maruachowki Darrang

196. Kacharit hall Cachar

197. Ujanikuria Sibsagar

198. Chapani Kamrup

199. Bholabatabari -do-

200. Baghashumout Sibsagar

201. Deesunga Kamrup

202. Khatalpara Barpeta

203. Puranbhawanipur -do-

204. Amingaon Nalbari

205. Bokabil Darrang

206. Bishnunagar Kar;mganj

207. Madhyamkhanda Kamrup

208. Narayanapur Nalbari

Departmental Sub Offices

1. Kazipara Nalbari

2. Dlttur Cement Factory N.C. Hills

3. Kagaz Nagar Nowgong 327 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 328

[ Translation] (a) whether a proposal for a tharmal power plant at Umred has been submitted to Setting up of Thermal Power Station at the Central Electricity Authroity by Mahar- Belchera Road, Uttar Pradesh ashtra Government;

7743. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the (b) whether coal linkage for this project Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: was envisaged from Umred coal mines;

(a) whether Government have received (c) if not, the reasons why the coal any proposal for setting up a thermal power linkage for it could not be tied up; station at Belchera Road, district Balia, Uttar Pradesh; (d) whether there is any other coal link- age in the vicinity possible for this project; (b) if so, the action taken so far thereon and and the time by which the thermal power station will be cleared by Government; and (e) if so, the details thereof?

(c) jf not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- (a) Yes, Sir. TRYOF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): (a) to (c). A feasibility report In respect of a (b) and (c). The project report in respect thermal power plant (3x21 OMW) at Belthera of the proposed Umred thermal power sta- Road in Ballia district in Uttar Pradesh was tion (2x21 OMW) envisaged linkage from the received in the Central Electricity Authority Umred/Makardhokda coalmines. The re- (CEA) in December, 1988 from the Uttar serves at Umred are not adequate to support Pradesh State Electricity Board (UPSEB) additional power generating capacity. While who have been advised by the C.E.A. to detailed exploration is in progress in a nearby furnish details in respect of various inputs ::trea, it has not been feasible, for the pres- (not included in the feasibility report) to enable ent. to commit coal linkage for the proposed further examination of the report. thermal station.

The proposed scheme could be techno- Training to Women Entrepreneurs by economically appraised after thA statutory K.V".C. requirements as per Section 29 (2) of the Electricity (Supply) Act, 1948, have been 7745. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the complied with by the UPSEB and necessary Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: inputs, such as coat linkage, as also various clearances, including from the environmental (a) whether works"ops are being con- angle, have been tied up. ducted by Khadi and Village Industries Commission to specialise women entrepre- [English] neurs in textiles designing and dress design- ing in West Bengal; Thermal Power Project at Umred (Maharashtra) (b) if so, the details of such workshops 7744. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: Will held and the number of women trained dur- the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: ing the last two years; and 329 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answsl3 330

(c) the number of trained women who rascent tube light is designed to operata for have started, business or got employment? 5 to 6 hours daily. The system switches on and off automatically by sensing light condi- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tions. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TV Centre In Contai West Bengal TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). The activities of tailoring, readymade gar- 7747. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the ments and hosiery have been recently Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- brought under the purview of KVIC. No CASTING be pleased to state: workshop has so far been conducted by KVIC to trains women entrepreneurs in tex- (a) whether it is proposed to set up a TV tiles designing and dress designing in West centre in Contai-Sub-division in West Ben- Bengal. gal;

Electrification of Villages in Wost (b) if so, when; and Bengal by Solar Energy (c) if not, the reasons therefor? 7746. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- (a) the number of villages in West Ben- TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. gal electrified with the help of solar energy so BHAGAT): (a) and (b). No, Sir. There is no far; and such proposal under the consideration of Government at present. (b) the mode of functioning of solar lighting system? (c) Parts of Medinipur district of Wast Bengal receive TV service from the low THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI power TV transmitters at Kharagpur and VASANT SATHE): (a) 164 villages have Medinipur and the high power (10KW) TV been provided with solar photovoltaic street transmitters functioning at Calcutta and lighting units as a measure of initial electrifi- Asansol. Extension of TV service to the cation of these villages in West Bengal. remaining uncovered parts of the country Other systems provided include 28 solar including Contai would ctepend upon the water pumping systems and one solar availability of resources for this purpose in community lighting cum-TV system. the future plans of TV expansion.

(b) A typical stand-alone, pole-mounted Public Sector Industries in West Bengal solar photovoltalc street lighting system consists of 2 photovoltaic modules. a frame 7748. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the to house these modules, a storage Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: battery,electronic control, pole, battery box, wires, etc. The modules produce power (a) the number of Central public sector during sun-shine hours which_ charges the industries in West Bengal as on 31 Decem- storage battery. The power, thus, stored in ber, 1988; and the battery is used for energisation of tube lights at nights. A Two-module (about 60 w) (b) the ,total number of employees in lighting system with 20 watts 18 watts fluo- these industries and the number of Women 331 Written AnSw91S MAY 2.1989 Writt." AnswelS 332

employees out of them? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRt GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No, Sir. The J. VENGALRAO):(a)Therewere41 Central services are quite satisfactory. Public Sector Enterprises with registered offices in the State of West Bengal as on (b) Does not arise. 31.3.1988 upto which period only the infor- mation is available. (c) No. Sir.

(b) The total number of employees Execution of Projects In Mahar•• h". working in the public sector enterprises in the State of West Bengal were 4. 17 lakhs. 7750. SHRI BAlASAHEB VIKHE PA- Details of women employees are not avail- Til: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased able. to state:

Import of Advance Technology for (a) the details of the projects executed Electronic Push Button Telephones by the National Projects Construction in Maharashtra during the last three years, 7749. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- district-wise; and TIL: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: {b) the projects to executed during the first two years of the Eighth Plan? (a) whether the electronic push button telephone instruments are giving satisfac- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tory service; DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): (b) if not. the steps being taken for their (a) and (b). A statement giving the details of improvement: and projects executed by National Projects Construction Corporation in Maharashtra (c) whether there is a proposal to import during the last three years and projects which advanced technology from developed coun- will extend to the first year of the Eighth Plan tries in this regard; if so, the details thereof? is given below. 333 W,m.n Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnswslS 334

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Expansion of Telecommunications proposed and there will only be automatic Services in Andhra Pradesh exchanges which will be suitably expanded and upgraded to meet the demand during 7751. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the the Eighth Plan. Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state the estimated expansion of telecom- STATEMENT munication services in Andhra Pradesh during the first two years of the Eighth Plan? Names of Towns and Cities having MAX -I and MAX -1/ type Auto exchanges THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Andhra Pradesh MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI GIRIDHAA GOMANGO): Tentative propos- 1. Srikakulam als include provision of 58900 Direct Ex- change Lines and 210 Long Dlstrtnce Public 2. Amadalavalasa Telephones during 1990-92 subjectto availa- bility of equipment. 3. Vijianagaram

Setting up of Automatic Telephone 4. Bobbili Exchanges in Andhra Pradesh 5. Vlsakhapatnam 7752. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased 6. Balacheruvu to state: 7. Anakapalle (a) the towns and cities In Andhra Pradesh haVIng automatic tolephone ex- 8. changes; 9. Kakinada (b) the details of such cities in the State where automatic telephone exchanges will 10. Samalko be set up during the first two years of the Eighth Plan; and 11. Peddapuram

(c) the towns and cities where the exist- 12. Yanam ing telephone exchanges will also be up- . graded and expandAd? 13. Ramachandrapuram

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 14. Ravulapalpm MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The details of 15 Dowleswaram town and cities having MAX , and MAX rI automatic tele-phone exchanges are given 16. Tuni in the Statement below. 17. Anaparthy (b) and (c). The plan proposals during the Eighth Five Year Plan are being firmed 18. Eluru up. As per draft objectIves of the Department of Telecom., no new Manual Exchanges are 19. Bhimavaram Written Answers 340 339 Written AnsW9fS MAY 2.1989

20. Tanuku 44. Tiruamala

21. Kowur 55. Renegunta

22. TP Gudem 46. Cuddapah

23. PaJakot 47. Proddatur

24. Akiveedu 48. Anantapur

25. Viiayawada 49. Guntakal

26. Gudivada 50. Hindupur

27. Anndigama 51. Tadiapatri

28. Vuyyuru 52. Kurnool

29. Machiltpatnam 53. Adoni

30. Guntur 54. Nandyla

31. Tenali 55. Mahabubnagar

32. Chilakalunpet 56. Shadnagar

33. Duggirala 57. Gadwal

34. Ongale 58. NagarkurnCSOI

35. Chirala 59. Sangareddv

36. Medarmetla 60. Patancheruv

37. Nellore 61. Nizamabad

38. Gudur 62. Armoor

39. Jowur (NL) 63. Hyderabad

40. Kavali 64. Lingampalli

41. Triupat 65. Adilabad

42. Chittoor 66. Karimnagar

43. , Srikalahasti 67. Godavarikhani 341 Wrllten AnswelS VAISAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) Written An.... ~

68. Nalgonda the Eighth Plan;

69. Khammam (b) if so. the name, number, capacity and the appro>cimate cost of those projects; 70. Kothagudem (c) the number of projects approved by 71. Bhadrachaalam Government for inclusion in the Eighth Plan; and 72. Warrangal (d) the details thereof, project-wise?

73. Siddipet. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Projects In Orissa for Inclusion in TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): Eighth Plan (a) The Govt. of Orissa sent a copy of the report of the Working Group of Augmenta- 7753. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: tion of Power in November. 1988. to the Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Central Electricity Authority. The following state: schemes have been proposed in the report for being taken up during the Eighth Plan (a) whether Orissa Government has period for giving benefits before the end of identified some projects and sent data to the the Ninth Plan. The estimated cost of these Central Electricity Authority for inclusion in project., has not been indicated in the report.

Name of the Project Total I. C. (MWJ

Hydro Schemes

1. Sidnal 5 x 60 II: 300 2. Bhimkund 3 x 16 + 4 x 60 - 288 3. Mandira 3 x 10 + 1 x 25 - 32.5 4. Harabhangi 3 x 10 30

5. Baragarh Head Regulator 5 x 2.2 11

Thermal Schemes 1. Ib IPS Ext. 2x50C - 1000 2. Jaipur Road TPS 2x 210 - 420 3. Naraj TPS 2 x 210 420 4. GopalpurTPS 2x 210 - 420 (c) and (d). The following generation to give benefit during the Eighth Plan. schemes of Orissa SIre tentatively envisaged Written Answ91S 343 Written Answers MAY 2.1989 344

SI.No. Name of Project Capacity Benefit during Estimated 8th Plan Cost (in crof"9s)

1. Upper Indravati HEP 4x 150 MW 600MW 380.65

2. Upper Kolab Extn. HEP 1 x 80 MW 80MW 18.62

3. Rengali Extn. HEP 3 x 50 MW 50MW 40.55

4. Potleru HEP 2x3MW 6MW 5.46

5. Ib Thermal Project 4 x 210 MW 840MW 956.61

Construction of Thein Dam Shifting of Coal Siding from Belpaloarn

7754. SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN 7755. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: (Udhampur): Will the Minister of ENERGY Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to be pleased to state: state:

(a) whether the people of Besohli have (a) whether Government have received been deprived of the link road with Lakhanpur any representation for shifting the present as a result of construction of Thein Dam on coal siding located inside the town of Belpa- the Ravi river; and loarn under South Eastern Coalfields lim- ited, being a pollution hazard; (b) if so, whether it is proposed to construct a bridge over Ravi river which will, (b) if so, the action taken thereon; besides connecting the people of Besohl; with Plinjab. provide the nearest approach (c) whether there has been delay in thE to lakhanpur? construction of an alternative sidil1g; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) if so, the reasons therefor and the DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- action taken to expedite its construction? TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): (a) The existing link road connecting Basholi THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI with Lakhanpur via Thein Dam site. being at VASANT SATHE): (a) to (d). There is no a lower level, will get submerged after the town named Belpaloan within the operating construction of Thein Dam. jurisdiction of South Eastern Coalfields Limited. There is, however, a temporary coal siding of Belpahar Open-cast mine located (b) An alternate link road from Basholi to adjacent to Belpahar Railway Station. Local Dhar Udhampur road at a higher altitude is people have voiced complaints about the under construction. It will be the nearest pollution created by the coal dust from ths alternate approach to Lakharpur. Govt. of Siding. SECL has a plan to provide a perma- Punjab who are executing Thein Dam Proj- nent rail siding linking Belpahar OCP with ect consider that construction of a bridge for public railway. Till the permanent siding aaproach to lakhanpur site is not required. comes up SECl has erected a screen along 345 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 346 the coal stacking wharf and sprinkling of Electronic Telephone Exchange at water is arranged to the extent possible tn Golaghat In AssarTI reduce evironmental population. 7757. SH RI BHADRESWAR TANTI: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be There has been some delay in the finati- pleased to state: sation of the alignment of the permanent siding. Survey work has been completed by (a) whether Government propose to the Railways and they have been requested modernise the present telephone system at by SECL to furnish the estimate forthe siding Golahghat town in Assam; as early as possible. (b) whether there is any demand from the people of Golaghat to set up an elec- Allocation for Biogas Plants In Punjab tronic exchange there; and

(c) if so, the reaction of Government 7756. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: V/ill there to? the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the amount allocated for community MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI biogas and institutional biogas plants in GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) There is no Punjab during 1986, 1987 and 1 G88; proposal at present to modernize Golaghat telephone system. (b) whether the amount has been In- creased or is proposed to be increased during (b) Yes, Sir. 1989: and (c) Due to limited production of indige- (c) if so, the dotails thereof and if not. the nous electronic equipment suitable for Go- reasons therefor? laghat, it is not possible to convert into elec- tronic exchange at present. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI V ,ASAN T SATHE): (a) The arnounts released Problems of Bagasse Based Paper for construction of community a:1d institu- Mills tional biogas plants (CBP and IBP) In Punjab during the past three years areas follows: 7758. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- TIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Year Rs. in lakhs pleased to state:

1986 77.75 (a) whether Government have received any memoranda regarding problems of 1987 125.85 bagasse hased paper mills;

1988 93 10 (b) the type of reliefs/concessions sought; and (a) and (b). Approximately Rs. 125 crores in expected to be rp.IA;J!;ed for GBPIH~P (c) the reaction of Government in this Punjab duri'1g 1989. rcga,d? 347 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answel5 348

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Government propose to DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- extend the broad banding facility to sugar OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- industry to include goods like molasses, TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Yes, alcohol, bagasse, paper etc. to reduce cost Sir. of production sugar and other bye-products;

(b) The reliefs and concessions sought (b) it so, when: and for bagasse based paper mills include con- tinuance of excise exemption for bagrlsse (c) if not, the reasons therefor? based paper, reduction in customs duty on imported caustic soda, preference in the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE matter of Government purcha~es. intcrest- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- free loan/subsidy for effluenl treatm~nt OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- schemes, OGL facility for import of wires and TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) No, felts, participation by NCDC in sharp. c(1pital Sir. of cooperative sector mills. and a!lotm(~nt of adequate quantity of coal. (b) and (c). A coverage of such varied items does not fit into the scheme of broad (c) With a view to encouraging thp. use banding. of non-conventi')n'1l raw matert;:)ls. such as agricultural residues, wastAs and baCJ~(',~·e. Losses Incurrea by IDPL fOI paper making. Government hav8 alrpady extended a number of relicis nnd cnnc.=-s- 7760 S HAl RADHAKANT A DIGAL: Will Sfons. These rnclurle full excise exprnotl')n thp Mir,lstpr of INDUSTRY be pleased to for pdper containing not Ipss thZ1:1 7!)"/~ s1,lte' oagasse-pulp, concP':-'slon:}1 ex(;i~p <1u 1y iCIt use of atlp.;)st 501".y:,:, non-conV€n:lona, raw (ai the loss incurred by the Indian Drugs mf'ltonals. de-licenSing of ceri31n vanetlp.s of & Phrtrmaceuticals Limited during last three paper-manufClcture. and extension Of tne yeaJ"'j: scheme of minimum eCOn()mICCr,p,v:lty. Thp !nstitutlons and Ranks have hf'8n r-,.

(b) Steps taken to improve the perform- state': ance of IDPL Include adoption of improvp.d and better technology, increa~ing cap~clty (a) whether the Bharat Heavy Electri- utiliation, improving cost effective technol- cals Ltd. (BHEL) has any plan for modernisa- ogy. increasing trade sales, introduction of tion and renovation of its units; new formulations, etc, (b) if so, the details thereof, unit-wise: (c) By taking the above steps the com- and pany has achieved a level of prOductio!1 of Rs. 193.30 crores (rrovisional) and of s;.'JIE~s (c) the amount proposed to be invested of As. 168.20 crorp-s (provisional) dllnng by the BHEL for this purpose during the next 1988-89. The npt loss hElc; also hepn rp t'NO years? duced to As. 20.75 crores (provi~)ion;'11) nut- ing 1988-89. THE MINISTER INllUSTRY (SHRI J. Modernisation and Renovation of BHEL VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes. Sir.

7761. SHRI SRIRALLI\V PANIGfll\HI: (b) The major modernisation schemes Will the Minister of INDUSTRY he pleas0d to p!:Jnned by BHEL are as undar:

SI.No. Name of Unit Scheme

1. Hyderabarl Moril.... rnlsa110n of Pump & Switchgear Shop.

2. Tnchy Modern,~-,a11()n of Header & Drum Shop.

3. Bhopal MoocrnhdtlO'l of Gas Plant. Fabncatlon Switr:;hgear & Water Turhlne Shops.

4. H3rdwar Modernt~(1tlO!'1 of S~eam Turbines, Turbo-Generator and Press Shop~.

In addition, the company is takmg up Corn the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be puterised Numerical Control/Olqlt.:l1 Rt:;

(b) Work is in progress for providing a (b) and (c). Do not arise. High Grade Transmission Medium for link- ing Botangir with Digital Trunk Automatic Shortage of Telephone Lines Exchange at Cuttack. This media is ex- pected to be commissioned in 1989-90. 7765. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (c) Does not anse. pleased to state:

Setting up of Elp.ctronic Telephone (a) whether at the end of Eighth Plan Exchange at Rourkela there would be a shortage of 25 to 30 lakh telephone lines in the country; 7763. DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (b) if so, how Government plan to meet pleased to state: this growing requirement;

(a) whether Government have a pro- (c) whether C-OOT system would be posal to set up a 4000 lines Electronic Tele- able to meet this requirement; phone Exchange at Rourkel§! during the remaining period of the Seventh Plcan or in (d) if so, to what extent; and the Eighth Plan; and (e) what alternative arrangements are (b) if so. the details thereof'! planned by Government in this regard?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b) Yes, GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (e). The total Sir. 4000 Imes Eloctronic Telephone Ex- annual licenced capacity to manufacture change is proposed to be set up during the telephone lines is about 26 lakh. No short~ Eighth Plan. age is anticipated if licenced ca~acity is translated into production capacity. Reorganisation of Public Sector Undpr- tttkings ~eneration of Power Through Non- Conventional Energy Sources in Orissa 7764. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Will the Minister of INOUSTRY be pleaspd to 7766. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: state: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether there is a propo~al to reor- ganise the public spctor undertakings: (a) the target set Tor me generation of • power through non-conventional energy (b) if so, the steps taken biGovernmpnt sources in Orissa during the remaining pe· in this regard; and riod of Seventh Plan: and

(c) the guidelines Issued to different (b) the details thereof? States in the matter? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b).No targets J. VENGAl RAO): (a) No. Sir. have been set for the generation of power 353 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 354 through non-conventional energy sources in reasons therefor; Orissa during the Seventh Five Year Plan. However, some units have been installed for (9) whether D.E.S.U. has a proposal to the generation of power through ~on-con­ open some more departmental offices to ventional energy sources in Orissa on a pilot collect payment of electricity bills; and basis for which details are as follows: (f) if so, the details thereof and if not, the 1. Under the Solar Photovoltaic Pro- reasons therefor? gramme, an experimental 25 KWp Solar Power plant is under installation at the For- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE est Lodge at Lulung. Another 2 KW Solar PV DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- power pack is being set up to supply power TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALP NATH RAI): to rural telephone exchanges. Solar pho- (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. DESU has authorised tovoltaic street lighting systems have been two nationalised banks viz., the Oriental further installed in 206 villages. Bank of Commerce and the Punjab & Sind Bank to accept payments of its electricity 2. Under the Biomass Programme, a bills through their branches mentioned in the number of gasifiers with an installed capac- statement below. ity of 240 KW have been sanctioned for the State of Orissa. (c) and (d). According to DESU, the existing arrangements of collection of the 3. Under the Wind Energy-Programme, payment of electricity bills through their ex- one 1.1 MW wind power project has already isting net work of 44 regular cash offices, the been commissioned at Puri. The first phase mobile vans and the branches of the above of 55 KW was established on 1.5.86 and the two banks are considered sufficient. As such, second in December 1988. Over 9 lakhs DESU has no proposal for the present to units of electricity have already been fed to authorise more banks to collect the payment the grid. t)f its electricity bills.

Collection of OESU Electricity Bills (9) and (f). DESU propose to start regu- Through Banks Jar cash offices at the following places:

7767. SHRIMATI D. K. BHANDARI: Will Laxmi Nagar the Minister of ENERGY be pleased tc stafe: 2 Yamuna Vihar (a) whether the Delhi Electric Supply Undertaking has authorised some banks to 3. Andheria f3agh collect payment of the electricity bills; 4. Onkar Nagar (b) if so, the names thereof, area-wi~e. 5. Silalimar 8agh (c) whether D.E.S.U. proposed to au- thorise some more banks for the collection of 6. Rohmi olher dues also. 7. Bawana (d) if so, the details thereof and if not. the 355 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answers 356

STATEMENT 21. Shahdara G. T. Road

List of the branches of the Banks author- 22. Gandhi Nagar ised to accept the payment of electricity bills of DESU 23. Basant Lok a) Oriental Bank of Commerce 24. Safdarjung Enclave

1. Connaught Place 25. Munirka

2. Chandnl Chowk 26. Mahipal Pur

3. Pahar GanJ 27. Dlchaon Kalan

4. Bara Tutl Chowk Sadar Bazar 28. T agore Garden

5. Darya GanJ 29. Palam Village

6. Chawan Bazar 30. Vlshal Enclave

7. Karol8agh 31. Cannought Place

8. Klrtl Nagar 32. Naya Bazar

9. Rajmder Nagar 33. East Patel Nagar

10. New Friends Colony 34. Naraina

11. Panchshlla Park 35. Batra (Okhla)

12. South Extension 36. Sarvapriya Vihar

13. Greater Kallash 37. Azad Pur

14. G. T. Kamal Road 38. Laxml Nagar

15. KJngsway Camp 39. Saket

16. Subzi Mandl b) PU'1jab & Sind Bank

17. Khera Kalan 1. Janpath

18. Pehledpur Bangor 2. Kirti Nagar

19. Waztrpur 3. Ranjit Nagar

20. RaJgarh Colony 4 New Friends Colony 357 Writt9n Answers VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answ9fS 358

5. Nehru Place a regional office in Sikkim also; and

6. EtC Dev Nagar Cd) if not, the reasons therefor?

7. Rajindra Place THE MINISTEROF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTRY OF INFORMA- 8. Janakpuri TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.l. SHAGAT): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. 9. Sidhartha Enclave (c) and (d). No, Sir. Opening of new 10. Kailash Colony Regional Offices of P.I.S. is part of the 7th Plan Schemes which do not provide for a 11. Okhla regional office in Sikkim. Further, the imple- mentation of these Plan Schemes depends 12. Chawari Bazar on the availability of resources.

13. Peera Garhl Indo.. Soviet Working Group on Coal and Lignite 14. Gujaranwala Town 7769. SHRIMATI O.K. BHANDARI: Will 15. Geeta Colony the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state:

16. Krishna Nagar (a) whether Indo-Soviet Working Group on Coal and Lignite has agreed to monitor all 17. Anand Vihar coal projects taken up with Soviet coopera- tion; and 18. Darya GanJ (b) if so, the detatls thereof and the 19. Kashmere Gate results expected therefrom?

20. Fatehpuri THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI 21. Maika Ganj VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). The meetings of Indo-Soviet Working Group on Coal In- Opening of PJ.B. Office in Sikkim dustry are held periodically in which prog- ress of coal sector projects being taken up 7768. SHRIMA II D. K. BHAI'-JOAHI: Will with Soviet cooperation is reviewed. At the the Ministerof INFORMATION AND BROAD- last meeting held in New Delhi during 3-12 CASTING be pleased to state: April, 1989, the need to strengthen the monitoring of these projects and to stream- (a) whether the Press Information Bu- line the working procedures was jointly rec- reau has opened its fourth regional office at ognised by both the countries. It has been Chandigarh; mutually agreed that concerned organisa- tions in both the countries will identify all (b) whether Government propose to problem areas and establish clear and open more such offices in future; complete procedures including technical and other requirements, communication chan- (c) if so, whether It is proposed to open nels etc. 359 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written AnswefS 360

Improvement In Rural Posta' Services all mail routes in the rural areas to improve During Seventh Plan upon transmission time and the method of transmission. Runner lines are converted 7770. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: into Mail Motor lines wherever buses start Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be plying and there is advantage in using the pleased to state: same.

(a) whether there was proposal to im- Sub-divisional inspectors post a num- prove the quality of the rural postal services ber of test letters in ordinary envelopes to in the Seventh Plan; and members of the public in rural/semi-urban areas to ascertain the time taken for delivery. (b) if so, the details of concrete steps Similarly, Superintendents of post offi~es taken in this regard and impr?vements ef- also post Test Letters within their respective fected in delivery of dak and telegrams in areas to check the time taken for mail trans- ru ral areas? mission delivery.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE In addition, periudical surveys are car- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI ried in rural post offices by checking on mail GIRIOHAH GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir actually received for delivery.

(b) Steps taken limprovements effected 4. Telegraph service in rural areas. are indicated in the statoment below. Telegraph service in rural areas is STATEMENT provided on 'Open wire" lines on phonocom basis or on Morse Key circuits through 1. Extension of Rural postal network combined post and telegraph offices. The following steps have been taken to improve During the period 1.4.1985 to 31.3.1989. the telegraph service in rural areas: 3468 new post offices have been openedl sanctioned in the final arRas of the country. (i) Replacement of bare open wire by Insulated open wire to reduce the 2. Panchayat Oak Sewaks fault liability of open wire telegraph lines. A new scheme of Pa,nchayat dak se:- waks has bepn introduced on an experimen- (ii) Training of Postal Signallers in tal basis. Under this scheme selActed gram adequate numbers. Panchagats are given a monthly grant of Rs.1S0/- and commission on sale of posts (iii) Developing prototypes of easily stamps and statIonery to provide to them- wo~kable Electronic Keyboards to selves baSIC postal services with service replace Morse key working that linkage with the regular postal network. As needs longterm training. on 31 -3·1989. this scheme has been intro- duced in 2863 gram panchayats in 21 diS- (iv) Ensuring better coordination is the tricts in the country. field between the Postal, Telegraph Traffic and Engineering Officers 3. Delivery of mail in rural areas responsible for administration, operating and maintaining the tele- Continuous reviews are undertaken on graph service in rural telegraph • 361 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 362

offices. Telephones (lDPTs) and to bring 15 Dis- tricts of Uttar Pradesh under the coverage of (v) Experimenting on the use of wire- Rural Integrated Digital Network (ION); less/satellite medium in the remote and hilly terrains to provide tele- (b) if so, the details of progress made in graph service. this regard and the districts brought under Integrated Digital Network; and Consumption of LPG in Jaunpur, Uttar Pradesh (c) whether there is any proposal to extend this facility of Jaunpur and other 7771. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: districts of Eastern U.P. ? 'Nill the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (a) the per capita LPG consumption in GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. The Uttar Pradesh, the share of Jaunpur district allindiatargetforthe Seventh Plan has been thereof and how It compares with other dis- revised to 10,000 LPGTs. However, only 3 tricts in the State; IDN Districts have been selected in U.P. for ION viz .• Mathura, Naini1al and Gonda. (b) whether there Isonlyone LPG dAaler in Jaunpur; and (b) So far 7717 lDPTs have been opened in the country. Ten exchanges have (c) if so, the steps trlken to appoint more been opened In districts of Mathura and LPG dealers In thRt district? Nainital (5 in each district as a pert of ION).

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) No, Sir. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS(SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) The Telephone Connections In CalcuHa average monthly LPG consumption in Uttar Pradesh and Jaunpur district are approxI- 7773. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA SINHA: mately 9.6 kg. and 9.2 kg. respectively per Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be consumer. It rangp.s from 4.2 kg. to 12.B kg. pleased to state: in respect of other districts of Uttar Pradesh; (a) whether a large number of workor- (b) and (c). At present two LPG dlstrihu- ders Issued against the pending applications torships are opel f1tmg in JaunptJr district, of for new telephone connections of the Cal- which one distributorship was commissioned cutta Telephones have been lying unexe- in ~Aarch, 1989. cuted for years together;

Rural Integrated Digital Network in U.P. (b) if so, the facts in th,s regard and the details of work orders issued in respect of 7772. SHni KAMLA PRASAD SI~JGH: '.onnections of '47/48" exchanges of the Will the Minister nt COMMUNICATIONS he Calcutta Telephones not executed so far; pleased to st at (' and

(a) whether th~re '1.'a5 a proposal to modernise the puhlic tel~araph nptvJork. (c) the date by which thesa telephones provide 9000 Rural Long DI~tancc Public would be Installed? 363 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answ9r.s 364

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE details of the work orders pending for provi- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI sian of new telephones as on 1.1.89 are GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) (a) and (b). The given below: Pending Since In Calcutta Telephones in 47148 exchanges

1986 147 2

1987 144 90

1988 4216 448

(c) Telephones pertaining to work or- [English] ders of '47/48' exchange area are expected to be provided by March 1990. Petro Chemical Projects in Bihar

[ Translation] 7775. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to KVIC c21endar state:

7774. SHRIMATI VIDYAVATICHATUA- (a) the brief particulars of the Petro VEDI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Chemical Projects which have been ap- pleased to state: proved for being set up in Bihar and those which are under implementation and have (a) whether the Khadi a,,!d Village In- not come on stream so far; dustries Commission has got its calendar for 1989 printed on mill-made paper; and (b) the dates when the Inoustrial li- cences and the letters of intent were granted (b) it so, the reasons therefor in view of for these projects; the Khadi and Village Industries Commis- sion's object being to ,encourage hand made (c) the original estimated cost and the paper industry? date for the coming~on-strea~ of these proj- ects;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) the latest estimated cost and date for DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DE VEL- the completion of these projects; and O?MENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRJ M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) and (e) the reasons for thA delav? (b). There is no deViation in KVle's policy of adoption of hand made paper for all its uses THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI and purposes. KVIC calendar for the year J. VENGAl RAO): (a) to (e). A la11erof intent 1989 was got pnnted on mill-made paper has been granted to Bih 1r State Industrial dueto mis1nken notIon that hand-made p::tper Development Corporation on sn/f!r:, for is not sUltnhle for such kInd of printing. KVIC manufacture of 50,000 TPA of Caprolactam is taking stP.ps 10 ensure thal only hnnd- In the State of Bihar. The onginal estimated made paper Will be used for slich purpose cost of this proiect was around Rs. 225.00 also in 1uture. crores and he latest estimated cost ,s around 365 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answ91S 366

As. 440 crores. aSIDC is taking necessary (e) if so, the reasons therefor and steps for implAmentation of this project. whether any plan has been or is being formu- lated to modernise the diesel engine indus- Telecast of Pro~ramme by Ooor- try to face the challenges? darshan Kendra Hyderabad THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 7776. SHRI S. PALAKONDRAYUDU: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). No significant R& D efforts have been made (a) the number of complaints and sug- to develop a diesel engine for use in two- gestions received regarding the programmes wheelers. Use of diesel for personalised telecast by Doordarshan Kendra, Hydera- vehicles like two wheelers is not being en- bad (A.P.) during 1988-89 and so far; and couraged due to short availability and supply of diesel, as well as the price differential (b) the action taken thereon? between diesel and petrol. Technically also, use of diesel engine in two-wheelers is not THE MINISTEROF PARLIAMENTARY considered desirable due to problems of AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- high vibration, noise, maintenance, etc. TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) and (b). No such records are (d) No, Sir. maintained by any Kendra. including Hydera- bad Kerldra. However, letters received from (e) Does not arise. the viewers are taken into conSideration for taking corrective measures while planning Colgate-Palmolive Plant at Aurangabad future programmes. This is a continuous process. 7778. SHRI SANATKUMAR MANDAL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Development for Diesel Engines for state: Two-Wheelers (a) whether Colgate-Palmolive multina- 7777. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: tional has been perm itted to set up new plant Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to at Aurangabad (Maharashtra); if so, the state: details thereof including Its capacity and the amount of investment;

(a) whether any research and develop- (b) whether this plant is to produce ment effort aimed at development of diesel items which are reserved for small sector; engines for the rapidly growing two-wheeler automotive sector has been or IS being (c) if so, the conditions on which this has undertaken; been permitted; and

(b) if so, the details thereof: (d) the extent of profits which it has been permitted to repatriate? (c) if not, the reasons therefor: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) whether the diesel anginA industry IS DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- stagnating; and OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- 367 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answ91S 368

TRY (SHAI M. ARUNA(,HALAM): (a) Mis. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Colgate-Palmolive India Limited has been GIAIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. granted a Dericensed Registration No. R- It ;s proposed to set up digital telex ex- 1115 (87), dated 13.8.87, for setting up a changes at Bhubaneswar and Rourkela new unit at Waluj Industrial Estate, MIDC, during 1990-91. Gangapur DisH. Aurangabad (Maharashtra) far the manufacture of 30,000 tonnes of toilet (d) Action has been taken to place pur- soap. The amount of investrpent as indi- chase orders for the equipment. cated in the registration application is As. 25 crores. Production of Caustic Soda

(b) Toilet Soap is not reserved for the 7780. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the Small Scale Sector. Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state:

(c) Does not aris~. (a) whether Government have received any proposals for setting up some caustic (d) Repatriation of profits ;~ permitted soda units in the country; according to the percentage of foreign equity share holding in the company, which, in this (b) if so, the additional capacity pro- case, is 40% as per information given in the posed to be installed by the end of the application. Seventh Plan; and

Setting up of Digital Electronic Telex (c) the details of new letters of intent Exchange tn Orissa issued and the locations of the new units?

7779. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the , THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). Yes Sir, the to state: details of new Letters of Intent granted for the manufacture of Caustic Soda during last (a) whether Government have a pro· one year are indicated in the Statement posal to set up a digital electronic telex below. axchange in Orissa:

(b) if so, the place identified for the telex The dema.,d of Caustic soda has been exchange; estimated at 9.00 lakh tonnes by the end of 7th Plan Period, As against this, as per (c) when it is expected to be set up: and available information, the present installed capacity is of the order of 11.03Ial<.hs 10nnes (d) the steps taken in that regC1rd? and as such, no additional capacity is likely to be added fllrther by the end of 7th Plan THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Period. 369 Writt9n Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Writt9n Answ91S 370

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Supply Of Coal to Ralchur Thermal NISIET needs to develop special research Power Plant literature to made academic impact deeper. Initially, separate allocation of funds was not 7781. SHRI SAIKANTHA DATTA made and most of the research undertaken NARASIf.l.HARAJA WADIYAR: Will the by the Institute was of a sponsored nature. A Minister of ENEAG Y be pleased to state: sum of As. 3 lakhs have been budgeted during the year 1989-90 for this purpose. (a) whether the Raichur Thermal Power plant in Karnataka is frequently facing the Consultancy division of NISIET problem of cogl shortage; and 7783. SHRI A. J. V.B. MAHESWARA (b) if so, the steps taken to ensure RAO: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be adequate supply of coal to H~at plant? pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether a consultancy division was DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- formed in 1975 by tho National Institute of TRY OF ENERGY (SHHI KAL P NIl.TH RAI): Small Industry and Extension Training (a) ~nd (b}. The Raichur thermal power sta- (N ISlET) at Hyderabad forfulfilling the needs tion is primarily linked with the Smgareni cf small indu$try; and Collieries Company limIted (SCCL), on lo"g term tasis. There aro, at times, low coal (b) If so, the details o~ its activities? stocks at tho station whose requIrements are being presently met from MIs. SCCL and THF MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIs WCL. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Ac~d~rT,ic activit ie~ of NISIET TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Yes Sir. 7782 SHRI MAr-ilK REOny. Wilt th( Mrni5ter of INDUSTRY he rlpased 10 state: (b) The work don& by consultancy divi· sian related to consultancy activitlP,5 from (a) wl)ether the C'JIT, mlt!ee a~)polntoc! h J 1975 onwards In respect of Advisory and Union GoverrH~lf'nt lG review the Cic3demlc counselling serv;ces for sma" industry entre- activities of thp. Natl(Jnal Institute of Small preneurs, Product/project identification, Industry Extension and Trainm!) (N ISlET'" IndlJstry opportunity studies, prepara~ion of Hyderabad had recommended a high prior- feaSibility rpports, preparation of guidelines ity ior research and consultancy; and for modernisation, revival of sick units, Tech- nology transfer arrangement, prepaiation ot (b) ii ~o the action taken th3reon and s!atus reports, training programmes culmi- the res:Jlts achieved so far? nating i" r.onsulLancy assignments and manCl9pment c(Jnsultancy on request from THE MIN~STER Or: STATE IN THE small i.ldustries. DEPARTMENT OF :NDUSTRIAL DE vEL- OPM':NT 11\1 THE: MINISTRY OF INDUS- Waitin~ List for LPG and LPG Facility In TRY ,SHnl M AFUJNI\CHALAM): (~) Y0~. Karnataka Sir. 7784. SHRI H.G. RAMULU: Wil! the (b) The Revlaw Co.l1mltteo wh,ch suj:\- Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL mitteo i1~ report in 1985 hr:ts staten that ·h.; GAS te pleased to ~tatc: 373 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) WriNen Answers 374

(a) the number of applications on the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- waiting list for LPG connections in Karna- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT): (a) The taka. district-wise; informetion is given in the Statement below.

(b) the towns provided with LPG fadlity (b) At pre5ent, 136 locations in Karr-:a- in Karnataka; and taka have LPG facility;

(C) the towps which ar~ likely to be (c) In addition to the exi~ting facilities, provided with LPG facility ir, the near future the oil companies have proposed to set up In Karnataka? 34 new LPG distributorships in Karnataka, u'1der their Annual LPG Marketing Plans THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE upto 1988-89.

STATEMENT

SI.No. D,strict No of persons on waiting list (as on 01.04.1989) ,., 1 L 3

1. BangPilorA 42.354

2. Belgaum

3 Beliary 9CD

4 f) lei rl r 267

5 Bljilpur 1,484

6. ChickrT'dO ~"lll 1,550

7. Chitrr:leillrg;:J 1,872

8. Dakshi'l Knnnaci 11.761

9. Dhalwad 2,212

10. GUloargv 1,3.50

11. Kodagu (Goorg) 2,042

12. Ko'ar 1,273

1 ~. Mysore 3.-J77

14. Ralchur 570 375 Written Ans wers MAY 2.1989 Written AnswelS 376

1 2 '3

15. Shimoga 1,424

16. Tumkur 1,652

17. Uttar Kannad 2,540

~8. Mandya 280

19. Hassan 935

Total 85.817

Clearance to Hydro-Electrie Project at eCl involves Inter-State aspogcts, it is not Sivas~mudram, Karnataka feasible to indicate any time frame for clear- ance of this Project by the CEA. 7785. SHHI H.G. RAMULU: Will tr,~ Minister at ENERGY be pleased to state' Electrification of Villages with the Help of Solar Energy (a) whether Karnataka Governmer.t has. 5ubmiHp.d a praject report to Slart an 1786. SHRI SYt:D SHAHABUDDIN: updated hydro-electnc project of 270 MW at Will the Minister of E!\fERGY be pleased to Sivasamudram' state:

(0) if so. wh8ther th~ Centr'll Electricity (a) the number of villages State-wise, Aut:l0rity (CEA) has cleared the project: and alread~' electrified with the ~elpof solar energy as cn 31 March, 1989; (c) If not the reasons therefor arid w:wn the project is ilkely to he de;-Jrf?d? (b) the State-wise tdrget for the S~v­ enth PiRn: lHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTM;=NT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- (c) the numb~r of viliages likely TRY OF ENERGY (S~ Ir~1 ;(ALP NA rH RAI); to 'Je electrified during the remaining period (a) ~o (c). Thp Project Report 0.' ')f the Spventh Plan; and SivasamL:drarn Spasonal PavJar Scheme (2x 135 MW), located in MY~Qre district OT ld) the average generation cost per Llnit Karnataka. wa~ reCelvp.d in the Central Elec· ot solar energy? triclty Auth"Jrity (CEA) 1:1 O~tobpr, 1987. It was examined In the CEA ar.::i was rnturn(.d THE MINISTEJ:l OF ENERGY (~HRI a:Gng with comr It..lts on technlCdl aspects \lAS~NT SATHE): fa' Based on informa- to Karnataka Powrr CorporatIon LImited in tion available from the Rural Electrification October, 19B8 for re-submission after r€so- CC'rporation, State F\ectric'ty Boards and !utlon of Inter-State aspects. Smc.,J th,s Proj- State Government Renewable Energy Agen- 377 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 378 cies, 4672 villages and hamlets had been (c) 500 more villages and hamlets are provided with solar photovoltaic lighting expected to be electrified through solar systems as a measure of initial electrification photovoltaic systems during the 7th Plan. of these villages and hamlets. State-wise (d) Cost of production of power from details are given in the statement below. small solar photovoltaic systems is in the range of As. 6 to 8 per unit based on life cycle (b) During 7th Plan, unelectrified vil- costing. This is already competative with lages and hamlets in different States were conventional po\yer for similar uses in vil- provided with solar electric units as part of lages far from the grid. Cost per unit from the demonstration programme, and no state- large solar power stations of megawatt wise targets were fixed for this purpose. capacity would be much lower.

STATEMENT

S.No. Name of Stflte Number of vii/ages/hamlets with solar lights

1 2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 1894

2. Arunachal Pradesh 14

3. Assam 9

4. Bihar 11

5. Goa 4

6. Gujarat 265

7. Himachal Pradesh 153

8. Jammu & Kashmir 13

9. Karnataka 90

10. Kerala 52

11. Madhya Pradesh 169

12. Maharashtra 648

13. Manipur 9

14. Meghalaya 5

15. Mizoram 6 Writt9n Answets 379 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 380

1 2· 3

16. Nagaland 33

17. Orissa 206

18. Rajasthan 480

19. Sikkim 27

20. Tamil Nadu 137

21. Tripura 24

22. Uttar Pradesh 259

23. West Bengal 164

Total 4672

Introduction of Car Telephone System (e) the estimated cost of the proposed in Delhi Cellular Mobile radio telephone system for Bombay and its proposed line strength? 7787. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstar- TRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI GIR- red Question No. 4695 on 4 April, 1989 IOHAR GOMANGO): (a) (i) The total non- regarding Car Telephone in cities and state: recurring expenditure on the experimental Car Telephone system installed in Delhi is (a) the total non-recurring and recurring about Rs. 1.25 Crores. cost of car telephone system introduced in Delhi with the number of availab\e hnes; (ii) The recurring expenditure since December 1985 when (b) whether the initial as well as runnmg the system was introduced till cost is met by the actual subscribers: 31.3.88 on maintenance is Rs. 3,95,296/- only and on pro- (c) the amount spent on car telephone curement of spares is Rs. system since its Inception as on 31 March, 10,26,000/-. (The spares are 1989 and the amount received from sub- likely to last upto September, scribers so far, upto date; 1993.

(d) the number of official subscribers (b) The initial and the running cost of the from whom subscriptions are made out of experimental projects is to be recovered public funds in Delhi and the number of over a number of years by the prescribed private subscribers as well as the number of tariffs. private applicants who have not yet been given connections; and (c) (i) Amount spent on Car Tele- 381 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Writtsn AnswslS 382

phone since its inception upto T.V. Telecast In Kanyakumar. 31.3.1989 is given at (a) above. 7789. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Min- (ii) The amount received from ister of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- subscribers upto 31.3.89 is Rs. 1NG be pleased to state: 56,17,379/-. (a) whether the visibility of the T.V. (d) (i) The numberofofficiarsubscrib- telecast in Kanyakumari distrid of Tamil ers is 28 Government and 9 Nadu has been examined; and O.O.T. (b) if so, the details thereof? (ii) Number of Private Subscrib- ers as on date is 42 and the THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY Private applicants who have AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- not yet been connected is 297. TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.l. BHAGAT): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The low (e) The estimated cost of the power TV transmitter at Nagarcoil has been proposed Cellular Mobile Radio Telephone found to be operating satisfactorily within its system for Bombay is about Rs. 7 crores normal service range (subject to tarrain F.O.B. with initial capacity of 1200 lines. conditions) and is providing service to about 55% of the area of the Kanyakumari district. Programmes Allotment to Artistes of Marathwada Region on TV and AIR Revenue from Commercial Advertl.. ments in 1988 and 1989 7788. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- 7790. SHRI SODE RAMAIAH: Will the CASTING be pleased to state: Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased to state: (a) whether the artistes from Marath- wada region do not get programmes on TV The total revenue from T.V. commercial and AIR as often as others of their respective advertisements in 1988 and 198~ respec- ranks get; tively?

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; and THE MINISTEROF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- (c) the remedial measures proposed to TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.l. be taken in this regard? BHAGAT): Doordarshan's gross revenue from commercial advertisements fortheyear THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY 1988 was Rs. 152.41 crores and for the year AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- 1989 (January to March) was Rs. 44.43 TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRf crores. H.K.l. BHAGAT): (a) Like other regions, artists from Marathwada region are invited Agreement with U.S. Multinational for for participation in the programmes on Door- manufacture of Consumer Goods darshan and Radio as per programme re- 7791. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: quirement~: SHRI S.B. SIONAL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be (b) and (c). Do not arisQ pleased to state: Written Answ9rs 384 383 Written Answers MAY 2,1989

(a) whether Government are aware that shows an increasing trend as shown below:- Mis Texas Instruments, a U.S. multinational, is looking for diversification into the manu- Year The foreign investment approv9d facture of consumer durables In India; (Rs. in Jakhs)

(b) whether any agreement has been 1987 As. 10770.57 arrived at in this regard; and 1988 As. 23975.75 (c) if so, the details thereof? (c) Foreign investment is regarded as a THE MINISTER OF STAr t:. IN THE vehicle for transfer of technology that is DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- needed by the country. Government's for- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- eign investment policy is selective and is TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). designed to channelise such investment into No. Sir. However, a Letter of Intent dated areas which require sophisticated technol- 11.1.1985 was gated to Mis Texas Instru- ogy or where critical production gaps exist, ments (India) Ltd., Delhi for setting up a or which would help increase the count;y's 1000/0 Export Oriented Undertaking for the expor! potential. To promote foreign invest- manufacture of design and development of ment, policies and procedures have been advance semi-conductors (Integrated Cir- streamlined and simplified. cuits). (d) dUring 1988. foreign investment Improvement in Foreign Investment proposals with 28 countries were approved. climate in India Prominent among these countries are US, Federal Republic of Germany, Italy, Japan, 7792. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- UK and France. WARI: Wi" the Minister o~ INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Petrochemical Project at Jaigad in Maharasht .. a (a) whetherthere has been an Improve- ment in foreign investment climate in India; 7793. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (b) if so, the details thereof; state:

(c) whether Government have taken (a) whether Union Government have any steps to improve the position further; given clearance to the petrochemical project and at Jalgad in Maharashtra: and

(d) the names of countries which have (b) if so, the details of precautions taken taken keen interest in making more invest- by Government before giving clearance to ment in India? the project?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). A letter of OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- intent was issued to MIs Finolex Pipes Pvt. TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and Ltd. on 13.6.88forthe setting upof project for (b). The amount of foreign investment ap- the manufacture of 1,00,000 tonnes per proved during 1988 as compared to 1987 annum of PVC at Jaigad in Maharashtra. 385 Written Answers VAtSAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 386

This letter of intent is subject to a number of ( Interruptions)· conditions including clearance from pollu- tion angle before it is converted into an MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Don't rec- industrial licence. ord. I am not allowing anything. Don't record. All of you please take your seats. First take Revamping of Polymer Unit of Gujarat you seats. State Fertilizer Company Ltd. (Interruptions )* 7794. SHRI SHANTILAL PATEL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Nothing will state: go on record. Don't record. AJI of your take your seats. Only then I will call you. Other~ (a) whether Gujara1 State Fertilizer wise' cannot. Company Limited has initiated measures to revamp its polymer unit, by. increasing Its (Interruptions)· production; MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER:Firsttakeyour (b) if so, whether the polymer unit has seats. I will call you. All of you take your been on a continuous loss; seats.

(c) whether Union Government have ( InterruptionsY' agreed to assist this Unit for overcoming the losses; and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am calling Mr. Harrsh Rawat. I am calling only Mr. (d) if so, the details of assistance pro- Harish Rawat-not others. All of you take posed to be rendered? your seats. He has given a notice. All of you please take your seats. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (d). MIs GUJarat rTranslation] State Fertilizer Company Ltd. have taken a number of measures to revamp and debot- SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA tleneck its polymer unit. The unit has report- (Robertsganj): First of all I gave notice. edly been incurring losses because of food stock constraint, lower capacity utilisation, [English] higher cost of production etc. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No; I am not callIng you.

[English] ( Interruptions)*

(Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: All of you take your seats.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: All of you ( In terruptionst please sit down. , will call each one of you. (Interruptions) All of you please sit down. [ Translation] You know my procedure, Otherwise, I can- not call anyone. SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora): Mr.

"~I;. recorded. 387 Written Answers MAY 2,1989 Written Answ91S 388

Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have given notice of Jaipal Reddy. defamation against the Times of India and its editor because a news has been published ( Inlerruptions)* by it that a member of the other House attended a tea-party hosted by smugglers MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Pleasetake and it has also been stated that an other your seats. I will consider your notice; that is member of this House was sitting next to him all. on the other dias when the meeting was held at Shahjhanpur, name of that hon. Member Mr. Chaturvedi, I cannot allow you; take is Shri V.P. Singh. h has alsO' been stated your seat. I am not allowing. that Shri V.P. Singh had brought that smug- gler into Congress Party when he was party (Interruptions)· president and effort has also been made to prove that the smuggler has close and near MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am not relationship with Shri V.P. Singh. (Interrup- allowing Mr. chaturvedi. tions) (Interruptions) [English1 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I told Mr. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is not a Harish Rawat. He has given a notice. I will matter for adjournment motion. What is there consider that notice. What does he want for adjournment in It? further? I will consider it.

(/nterruptions)* (Interruptions)·

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will con- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order please. sider it. Please take your seats. Now Mr. Jaipal Reddy. SHRI S. JAIPAl REDDY ( Interruptions)"' (Mahbubnagar): The freedom of the Press is in danger, because the management of [Translation] 'Statesman' ;s compelled to make a compro- mise ... SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is a very serious matter. (Inter- ( Interruptions)* ruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No; I cannot SHAI NAAESH CHANDRA CHATUR- allow this. VEDI: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I demand that this matter should be refp.rred to the (Interruptions)· Privileges Committee. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Nothing will MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will con- go on record. I am not allowing. sider your notIce. I have told you: I will consider your notice. That is all. (Interruptions) •

( Interruptions)* MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You give a notice in some other form. I cannot take it as MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now Mr. ·Not recorded. 389 Written Answers VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 390 an Adjournment Motion; I cannot take it as a MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Your notice Substantive Motion. No allegation against will be considered. I cannot allow you like any member will go on record. this.

(Interruptions) '" ( Interruptions)

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I have MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Nothing will demanded a statement from the Home on record. I am not allowing. Minister. (Interruptions)

( Interruptions) * MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Your notice will be considered. But I cannot allow you like SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO this. (Parvathipuram): Today a dark shadow has been cast on this Chair. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I cannot al- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: What is low. your ruling?

( Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will con- sider it; I will take into consideration your MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Nothing will notice. go on record. ( Interruptions) ( Inferruptions)* PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I de- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Ra- mand the Home Minister's statement on this. japur): I have given a notice under Rule' 84. Firstly. listen to me, whether you admit it or MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Your notice not and when you fix up a discussion. The will be considered. question is one han. member of this House has actually revealed that in matter of Czeh ( Interruptions) Pistol Deal. lot of influences were sought to be brought on him to change the final deci- SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE sion, some on behalf of Brazilian lobby. (Panskura): The people of West Bengal are some on behalf of Italian Company lobby. not getting wheat and rice. The Public Distri- When these' things are bution System has broken down. The poor happening ... ( Interruptions} people are not getting their ration. So, I draw your attention and through you the attention PROF. MADHU DANOAVATE: This of the hon. Minister. (Interruptions) thing has been reported not only in one section of the Press but in so many sections MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You give me of the Press. (Interruptions) a notice. I will consider it.

"'Not recorded. MAY 2,1989 Written Answ91S 392 391 Written.., Answers

(Interruptions) (Interruptions) It

SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har- SHRI CHfNTAMANI JENA (Balasore): bour): There is a series of allegations about A very serious situation has arisen in the a conspiracy to evade Customs Duty. it has State of Orissa due to tornado and a heavy come out in today's papers. cyclone and hailstorm. Several people have died. Many thousands of people have been MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have al- hospitalised dueto injuries. Millions of people ready given my ruling, that I am not allowing have become destitute. I have given a calling any allegations. attention notice and a short Notice Question.

(Interruptions)" MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will see. I will look into it. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have al- ready said that I am not allowing. I am not PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Are you allowing. Nothing will go on record. extending the Session for consideration of all these things that you have promised? ( Interruptions)", MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If all of you MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Nothing will agree, then we will see. go on record. I am not allowing anybody. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH (Uluberia). (Interruptions)· Do you agree that newspapers are the eyes and ears of the nation? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Yes, Dr. Shoi, what do you want to say? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: No, not al- lowed. I am not allowing. DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI (Sam- balpur): Mr. point is, just now han. Mr. Reddy ( Interruptions)* has mentioned the name of a member of the other House ... MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Guraddi.

SHRI S.M. GURADDI (Bijapur): Sir, I MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: No. I am not have given a notice. The other day. Mr. Suta allowing. Nothing Will go on record. Singh had misled the House quoting that Mr. Govind Narain, the then Governor of Karna- ( Interruptionsr taka, in 1977 had dissolved the Assembly without the consent of the then Chief Minis- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Do not ter, Mr. Dev. Raj Urs. The then Governor Mr. Govind Narain has expressed his surprise raise the matter onceagaln. overthe statement of Mr. Buta Singh. There- fore. I have given a notice of privilege. (Int errupt ions)· MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You give a notice. I will see, I will consider it. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: No. Nothing SHRI S.M. GURADDI: I have alreadY is allowed. Please take your seat now. given a notice.

*Not recorded. 393 Papers Laid VAISAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) Papers Laid 394

MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: I will con- garding exemption to The sider it. It will find out the facts. Rt Hon. Sir Geoffrey Howe. Oc .. M.P. Secre- Now ¥'e go to Papers Laid. tary of State for Foreign Affairs and Common- wealth Affairs of the United Kingdom of Great PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE Britannia and Northern Ireland and Lady Howe 12.12 hrs. who visited India from 25th March to 1 st April. 1989, Notification under Finance Act, from the payment of for- 1979, Income Tax Act, 1961, Customs eign travel tax. Act, 1962 and Central Excise and Salt Act, 1944 (iii) G.S.R. 434 eE) published in Gazette of India dated [English] the 10th April, 1989 to- gether with an explana- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tory memorandum re- DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE garding exemption to His MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. Excellency Dr. George GADHVI): On behalf of Shri A.K.Panja, I beg Vassiliou, Presidentofthe to lay on the Table:- Republic of Cyprus and other members of dele- (1 ) A copy each of the followi n9 gation who visited India Notifications (Hindi and English from 11th to 18th April, versions) under section 41 of the 1989, from the payment Finance Act, 1979:- of foreign travel tax.

(i) G.S.R. 392 (E) published (iv) G.S.R. 435 (E) published in Gazette of India dated in Gazette of India dated the 29th March. 1989 the 10th April, 1989 to- together with an explana- gether with an explana- tory Memorandum re- tory memorandum re- garding exemption to His garding exemption to His Excellency General Chati- Excellency Dr. Tadeusz chai Choonhavan. Prime Szelachowski, Deputy Minister of Thailand and Chairman of the Council other Members of dele- of State of the Polish gation who visited India People's Republic (Vice- from 28th March, to 1st President) and other April, 1989 from the pay- members of delegation ment of foreign travel tax. who visited India from 11 th (ii) G.S.R. 393 (E) published to 18th April, 1989 from in Gazette of India dated the payment of foreign the 29th March. 1989 travel tax. [Placed in together with an explana- Library S99 No. L T-7813! tory memorandum re- 89] 395 Papers LaId tAAY 2, 1989 Papers Laid 396

2. A copy of the Income-tax CArst) to the Notification No. 1071 Amendment Rules, 1989 (Hindi 89 Customs dated the 1st and English versions) published March, 1989 seeking to in Notification No. 5.0.239 (E) in provide a concessional Gazette of India dated the 29th rate of auxiliary duty of March, 1989. under section 296 customs at the rate of 5 of the lrlCX)me-tax Act, 1961 per cent ad valorem on [Placed in library S99 l T.No. almond in hard shelf. 7814189] (iv) G.S.A. 385 (E) published 3. A copy each of the following in Gazette of India dated Notifications (Hindi and English the 28th MarCh, 1989 versions) under section 159 of together with an explana- the Customs Act, 1962:- tory memorandum mak- ing certain amendments (i) G.S.R. 110 (E) published to Notification Nos. 70/81- in Gazette of India dated Cus. dated the 26th 20th February. 1989 to- March.1981255!86-Cus. gether with an explana- dated the 17th April, 1986, tory memorandum seek- 480/86-Cus., 481/86-/ ihg to exempt wood in the Cus., and 182186-Cus. • rough imported during the dated the 4th December, period from 1st March, 1986 so as to remove the 1986 to 14th April, 1986 time limit specified th- from the whole of the eraun. auxiliary duty of customs. (v) G.S.R. 386 (E) published (ii) G.S.R. 349 (E) published in Gazette of India dated in Gazette of India dated the 28th March, 1989 the 9th March. 1989 to- together with an explana- gether with an explana- tory memorandum pre- tory memorandum mak- scribing additional ing certain amendments (counteNailing) duty of to Notification No. 31/89- customs on certain cate- Customs dated the 1st gories of iron or steel March, 1989 seeking to melting scrap. restore the basic customs duty on certain types of (vi) G.S.R. 422(E) and G.S.R. fatty acids oils and fatty 423 (E) published in alcohols to the pre-budget Gazette of India dated the levels. 4th April, 1989 together with an explanatory (iii) G.S.R. 367 (E) published memorandum exempting in Gazette 0 India dated machines when imported the 17th March, 1989 by a Municipal Authority together with an explana- for use in combating Ma- tory memorandum mak- laria and other mosquito ing certain amendments borne diseases from pay .. 397 p.,_.. Laid VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Paps,. Laid 398

ment of basic customs facture of textiles and duty In excess of 25 per textile articles, during the cent ad-valorem and from period commencing 28th

thewhola of additional and February I 1986 and "nd- Auxiliary duties of cus- ing 2nd September, 1987. toms. [Placed in Ubrary see No. LT-7815J89] (iii) G.S.A. 339 (E) published in Gazette of India dated (4) A copy each of the following the 3rd March, 1989 to- Notifications (Hindi and English gether with an explana- versions) under sub-sadian (2) tory memorandum mak- of section 38 of the Central Ex- ing certain amendments cises and Salt Ad, 1944:- to the Notification No. 241 89-eE, dated the 1st (i) G.S.A. 106 (E) published March, 1989 so as to in Gazette of India dated substitute marble slabs the 16th February, 1989 falling under sub-heading together with an explana- No. 2504.21 in place of tory memorandum mak- marble tiles. falling under ing certain amendments sub-heading 2504.31. to Notification No. 60188- CE, dated the 1st March, (iv) G.S.R. 368 (E) published 1988 so as to provide one in Gazette of India dated month limit for production the 17th March, 1989 of RNI certifICate before together with an explana- the jurisdictional Assistant tory memorandum mak- Collector for availing the ing certain amendments exemption under the said to Notification No. 28189 - notification. CE, dated the 1 st March, 1989 together with an (ii) G.S.A.431 (E) published explanatory memoran- in Gazette of India dated dum making certain the 6th Apnl, 1989, to- amendments to Notifica- gether with an explana- tion No. 28/99 -CE, dated tory memorandum ex- the 1st March, 1989 so as empting excise duty on to exempt from the excise finishing agents, dya-car- duty when goods are util- riers to accelerate. the ised ;n the factory in which daying of fixing of dye- they are produced for the stuffs and other products manufacture of any goods and preparations of a kind falling under the Central used in the textile indus- Excise Tariff. try, falling under subhead- ing No. 38.01 or 38.09 of (v) G.S.A 384 (E) published the schedule to the Cen- in Gazette of India dated tral Excise Tariff Ad, 1985 the 28th March, 1989 and used in the factory of together with an explana- production for the manu- tory memorandum mak- 399 Rules Committee Report MAY 2,1989 Union Duties of Excise 400 (Distribution) Amdt. Bill

ing certain amendments 12.13 hr•• to Notification Nos. 61186- COMMITTEE ON PETITIONS eE, and 69/86-EC, dated the 10th February, 1986 EIghth Report so as to modify the head- ing Nos. of Central Excise [English] Tariff eligible for duty concessions and to re- SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL move certain difficulties (Kopargaon) : I beg to present the Eight relating to availment of Report (Hindi and English versions) of the exemption on copper Committee on Petitions. winding wire.

(vi) G.S.R. 412 (E) published in Gazette of India dated 12.13114 hrs. the 31 st March, 1989 together with an explana- DEMANDS FOR EXCESS GRANTS tory memorandum mak- (GENERAL), 1986-87 ing certain amendments to Notification No. 175/86 [English] -eE, dated the 1st March, 1986 so as to enlarge the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE coverage of items covered DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE INTHE therein and extending the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI validity of the Notification B.K.GADHVI): I beg to present a statement upto 31 st March, 1990. (Hindi and English versions) showing De- [Placed in Library See No. mands for Excess Grants in respect of the LT-7816/89) Budget (General) for 1986-87.

12.13112 hrs.

12.12112 hrs. UNION DUTIES OF EXCISE (DIS- TRIBUTION) AMENDMENT BILL· RULES COMMITTEE [English] Second Report THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHAI [English] S.B.CHAVAN): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Union PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): I beg to Duties of Excise (Distribution) Act, 1979. lay on the Table, under sub-rule (1) of rule 331 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- of Business in lok Sabha, the Second Report tion;s: (Hindi and English versions) of the Rules Committee. 'IThat leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Union Duties of Excise (Distribution) Act. 1979." . ~Ilblished in Gazene . iia Extraordinary Part-II section 2, dated 2.5.89. 401 Addl. Duties of VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Constitution 402 Exciss (Goods of SpL Importance) (63rd Amdt.) BiR Arndt. BiD The motion was adopted Insurance Business (Nationalisation) Act,1972. SHRI S.B.CHAVAN: I introduce·· the Bill. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- tion is:

.. That leave be granted to introduce a 12.14 hr•• Bill further to amtmd the General Insur- ance Business (Nationalisation) Ad, 1972." ADDITIONAL DUTIES OF EXCISE (GOODS OF SPECIAL IMPORTANCE) The motion was adopted AMENDMENT BilL • SHRI S.B.CHAVAN: I introduce the Bill. [English]

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRr S.B.CHAVAN): I beg to move for leave to 12.15 hr•• introduce a Bill further to amend the Addi- tional Duties of Excise (Good of Special CONSTITUTION (SIXTY-THIRD Importance) Act, 1957. AMENDMENT) BILL·

MR. DEPUTY- SPEAKER: The ques- [English] tion is: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE "That leave be granted to introduce a MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI Bill furtherto amend the Additional Duties SONTOSH MOHAN DEVr.On behalf of Shri of Excise (Goods of Special Importance) Buta Singh : I beg to move for leave to Act, 1957" introduce a Bill further to amend the Consti- tution of India.

The motion was adopted MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: The ques- SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I introduce·· the tion is: Bill.

"That leave be granted to introduce a 12.141i~hr•• Bill further to amend the Constitution of India." GENERAL INSURANCE BUSINESS (NATlONALISATION) AMENDMENT Bill· The motion was adopted

[Eng/ish] SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN oev: I intro- rue MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI duce the Bill. S.B.CHAVAN): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the General "Introducea with the recommendation of the President.. ·Published in Gazette of India extraordinary Part II, seCtIOn 2, dated 2.5.89. 403 Maners under MAY 2,1989 Rulll377 404

121.15112 hr•• towards the mismanagement of telephone MAITERS UNDER RULE 377 exchange at Faizabad city of Uttar Pradesh and the problems faced by the consumers. (Eng/ish] There is M.A.X. system Telephone Exchange (I) Need to ... up an ICAR UnH at Faizabad which has become obsolete and 8 Laboratory at Govern- because of introduction of New Electronic ment Agrlcunural farm at TIn- System and increasing number of consum- plrudl In Alwar district of Ra- ers. Faizabad is also a zonal headquarter. It jasthan is, therefore. necessary that Communica- tion system of the Zonal headquarter should SHRI RAM SINGH Y ADAV (Alwar): The remain upto date. aims and objectives of setting up the Indian Council of Agricultural Research are to I have come to know that Ministry of undertaken, aid, promote and co-ordinate Communication has sandioned an electronic agricultural and animal husbandry educa- exchange for Faizabad. I would urge that the tion, research and its application, develop- sanctioned electronic exchange may be ment and marketing. to increase scientific installed during this year i.e. 1989. knowledge and to secure its adoption in every day practice. It also provides research In addition to this. I submit that Rudoli and refer~nce library to develop and impart exchange in District Barabanki, my lok knowledge of agricultural research and sci- Sabha constituency, is a small excha'lge entific and technological achievements in and the same should be converted into elec- the field of agricultural science. tronic exchange immediC'tefy. Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi. has given a clarion call to the scientists and [English] axperts in the field of agricultural science and technology to take the achiev8mpnts of (iii) Need to implement the recom- research and development to the fields of mendations of the High Pow- farmers. The Indian Council of Agricuhural ered Pay Committee for StaW Research can provide up to date knowledge OfflC8f'sof Public undertakings and information to the farmers through ICAR without any further delay units and laboratories. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: (Almora) : The As the soil in district Atwar, Rajasthan matter regarding pay revision of the Public State is quite fertile with ground water poten- Undertakings govemed under COA pattern tial, I urge upon the Minister of Agriculture , has been pending for the last two years. In Govemment of India, New Delhi to set up an fact, employees of these public undertak- ICAR unit and laboratory of Government ings were entitled to wage revision under the agriculture Farm. Tinpirudi in district Alwar. recommendations of the 4th Central Pay Commisskm as there was perfect parity in rTranslation] their pay scales and DA formula with the (Ii) NNd to Instal an Electronic err-ployees of the Central Govemment and Telephone Exchange a Falza- the recommendations of the earlier Pay badand Rudoll In Barabankl Commissioners were uniformly implemented (U.p) for the employees working under these SHRI NIRMAL Kt-JATTRI (foaizabad): Undertakings. The 4th Pay Commission·s Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to draw the recommendations have however. been attention of hon. Minister of Communication denied to them forcing them on the path of 405 Matters under VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Rule377 406

litigation. As a result the Government ap- duly sanctioned by land & Building Depart- pointed a High Power Pay Committee under ment reach D.D.A after one year. Their turn the directions of the Supreme Court to look does not come for 4 years in D.D.A. They get into and recommend the pay structureforthe a plot of 40 yards instead of 220 yards Janet employees of these S8 Public Undertakings. Plot of 200 yards is given instead of 400 HPCC submitted its report on 24.11.1988, yards. Farmers should get plots equal to which broadly recommended and upheld the their land. The policy of sanctioning plots right of the employees working in' Public should be implemented from the time since Undertakings for the pay scales recom· Delhi Administration had adopted it. Farm- mended by 4th Central Pay Commission. ers are much worried for not getting full compensation of their land. I, therefore, The HPCC report was referred to vari- submit that the Government should evolve ous Ministries for their comments and the such a procedure by which the farmer may Ministries have intimated to the Bureau of get proper compensation for their land along Public Enterprises that there would be no with a plot and a shop. One member of each difficulty in implementing the recommenda- family should get employment also. All these tions of HPCC in the Public Undertakings facilities should be granted in addition to the under their respeCtive administrative con- compensation for the land so that the farm- trol. The matter is now pending with the ers need not go to the courts again and again Govemment for final decision. and that also for years.

As per the opinion of the Law Ministry obtained on the HPCC report. the Govern- (v) Need to allow villagers to have ment has no alternative except to accept it in transactions with Banks of toto as the HPCC was constituted under a their choice directive issued by the Supreme Court. and. therefore, its recommendations are of man- SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY datory nature. Hindupur): Villagers have been attached and allotted to various branches of banks for the I earnestly request the Government to purpose of lending and other operations. accept and implement the HPCC recom- When a particular village is allotted to one mendations without any further delay. bank, other banks do not lend the money. Some banks give better service to agricuttur- [ Translation] ists while others prefer 19nding to business community for business proposes only. Thus. (Iv) Need to ensure timely and full agriculturists have no choice of taking loans compensation to farmers or having transactions with any other banks who.. lands are acquired by except the bank earmarked. Similarly. busi- the Government In Deihl ness community is not able to get loans from banks of their choice. This hampers the work SHRI BHARAT SINGH(Outer Delhi): both of agricuhurists as well as of the busi- Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want to raise the nass community. At presant. the allotment of following matter under Rule 3n: villages is on the basis of contiguity and nearne,,-q "Delhi Administration acquires land of farmer:"" at a very low price. Farmers have to I request the finance Ministerto look into go to &'urts for taking plots in lieu of the the matter and make the attachment of vil- acquired land. Necessary papers for plots 1ag98 flexible. They may be allowed to havfII 407 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill, 1989 408

[Sh. K. Ramachandra ReddyJ Shri Chintamani Jena. transactions with any bank of their choice. In SHRI CHJNTAMANI JENA (Balasore): case it requires the concurrence of the Sir, I rise to support the Finance Bill for the Reserve Bank of India, it my be requested to year 1989-90 introduced by the h~n. Minis- do the needful. ter of Finance. As we know, this is the outcome of the Budget Estimates moved by (vi) Need to Increase the export the han. Finance Minister in this House, quota of Cotton for Maharash- which is popularly known as poor man's tra Budget. It has been accepted by all sections of the society that this Budget for tho year SHRI UTTAM RATHOD (Hingoli): The 1989-90 is a poor man's Budget and also export quota of cotton is very meagre and that it will benefit all sections of the people in the extra long staple varieties of cotton having the country. Why I am supporting this Fi- a staple length about 3.5 m m and delay in the nance Bill is because this Bill is now going to fixation of minimum support price are prov- rodress the gigantic problems faced by the ing detrimental to all.the cotton growers in country, that is, the unemployment problem the country in general and Maharashtra and and the housing problem. These are the Gujarat 10 particular. main problems faced by our country and this year's Budget is intended to overcome these The Government of India in the Textile problems to a great extent. Ministry should allot more quota for export to Maharashtra Federation. Taking into con- 12.26 hrs. sideration the huge cotton produce in the State, the quota of Maharashtra State Cot- [SHRI SHARAD DIGHE in the Chair] ton Growers' Federation should be increased by at least 15,000 bales and the quota of the While initiating the Nehru Rozgar Yojna staple length should be reduce to facilitate on the other day, our han. Prime Minister has the cotton growers whose staple 19n9th has announced a package of programmes to been hampered due to Incessant rams. solve the unemployment problem in the country, which has been welcomed by all sections of the people, including the Chief 12.25 hrs. Minister of West Bengal. Similarly, this year's Budget is intended to create a base for FINANCE BILL, 1989 Contd providing housing in the rural areas. So the poor and low income group people will be [Eng/ish] benefited by this Budget.

The hon. Finance Minister has an- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now we shall nounced very welcome measures to curtail take up further consideration of the following the expenditure on establishment. The han. motion moved by Shri S.B. Chavan on 27th Prime Minister has correctly observed that April, 1989; whichever plan we start. 86 per cent of the amount of that plan money is spent on estab-

It That the Bill to give effect to the finan- lishment. The Finance Minister has also cial proposals of the Central Govern- correctly observed it and has taken several ment for the financial year 1989-90, be measures to curtail the expenditure on es- taken into consideration." tablishment, not only in the Government at 409 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 410 the Central but also in the States. I would the Zero Hour today about the severe tor- request the hon. Finance Minister to see that nado, hail-storms and cyclone in Orissa. In all the States curtail their expenditure on this calamities millions of hectares of crops establishment. Besides this, the hon. Fi- have been destroyed many buildings have nance Minister, while presenting the Budget been damaged, many people had died, for the year 1989-90, had also assured this thousands of people have been rendered House that the foreign tours would be cur- homeless and they have become destitutes. tailed. I welcome this measure, but in this Thousands of people have been injured and connection, I would like to bring to his kind they have been hospitalised in Orissa. By notice that those in the cooperative sector the calamities my constituency is the worst are going on foreign tours. While saying this, affected. But whatever the relief measures I should not be considered as taking an anti- provided by the State Government from the cooperative sector view because from my margin-money available with them is not boyhood I am associated with the coopera- sufficient at all. In case, the State Govern- tive sector and have also been trying to ment request the Centre to send a team for boost the cooperative sector movement in surveying the affected are and then only wi" the country in a proper way.... Of course, the visit the staff and the team makes recom- cooperative sector or the State Governments mendation for providing funds for relief might be spending the money on these for- measures, the Central Government would eign tours, but this is putting pressure on our provide funds. But the grant is made only headearned foreign exchange. So, while from the Plan money of the State Budget. sanctioning foreign exchange, the Finance So, I do not see in which way the State is Minister should seethat in cases of this type, benefited in receiving the fund for relief foreign exchange is granted only very se- measures. So, Sir, this new Gadgil Formula lected cases and not in other cases. Of should be reconsidered and also the States course, some of my han, friends in the like Orissa and' other States which are con- Opposition were going on highlight,ing the staf"tly suffering from natural calamities deficit financing in the budget. In this con- should be provided with special provision of nection, 1 would like to bl ing to your kind funds, special allotment of funds, 10 over- notice that if we sincerely adopt the meas· come their financial crisis. ures suggested by the hon. Finance Minis- ter, our deficit would be Vf:Jry much reducHd. Sir, In this connection. I would like to Besides I suggest that export should also be suhmit one thing, that is , the Finance Minis- increased so that the present deficit could be try had provided subsidy to some of the smail brought down to a great extent. I would like scalEr industri(?s which have now been ~Nith­ to submit here for the consideration of the drawn. The subsidy provided to the co1d- hon. Finance Minister as weil as the Plan- stOI ane units, prir.ting press units, has been ning Commission that the new Gadgil For- WIthdrawn in this year's budget. Sir. the mula is realiy a welcome formula. At the Government has created a new Ministry of same time, I would ilke to submit that there FooJ Processing to boost the economy of are some States which are facing a lot of the farmers. But tho Finance Ministry tloS difficulties with regard to the natural calami- withdrawn the subsidy from cold-storage ties, in successive years. The State of Orissa units and printing press units which a:-e in is one such State which is facing such Ca- small-scale industnes. I would request the lamities almost every year. The benefit of the han. Finance Minister to revive givina sub- new Gadgil Formula does not accrue to the sidy to these smal!-scale indu5frie~. States like Orissa. I was just bringing to the notice of the hon. Deputy-Speaker, during Sir, the budget provision for Agriculture 411 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill, 1989 412

[Sh. Chintamani Jena] and other programmes also to provide drink~ ing water. But due to shortage of adequate has been increased from 170/0 in the last funds with our State Government, they are year's budget to 180/0 in this year's budget. not able to provide drinking water facility to But this is not sufficient. The farmers are not the rural areas. Similarly, 73 per cent of our getting sufficient electricity supply. We should people are engaged in agriculture, for which therefore put more pressure for the genera- irrigation is the primary requirement, but in tion of non-conventional energy. tn this the way we are proceeding to provide irriga- connection. I may submit that our Govern- tion facilities. I doubt very much whether we ment has taken many ideal measures for can achieveourtargetto meetourfoodgrains power generation from sea-waves. But un- demand by 2000 A.D. if we do not take fortunately. in spite of Orissa having a vast adequate measures to provide irrigation to coastal area, it has not been considered for all the agricultural lands by 2000 A. D. at generation of energy from the sea-water. least. About flood control and drainage sys- This should be considered immediately. tem, I would like to point out that we are spending a lot of money for flood control, but Sir, I am very grateful to the hen. Prime we are not giving due weight- age to the Ministerthat he is going to lay the foundation drainage system in the country. If we pro- stone of Talcher Super thermal Power proj- vide drainage system in a big way which can ect, besides Ib Valley Power project. But be done with less expenditure, then floods side by side I would like to state that the would not be a major problem for our agricul- provision made for the Kerala and Karna- ture. So, more funds should be provided for taka States to meet their scarcity of energy is drainage. all right. Fifteen per cent of the reserve energy frorTl the National Grid has been One more point. The percentage of provided to these States. Such a type of investment for agriculture in our budget is system should be provided for the State of increased from 17 to 18. But when 73 per Orissa also cent of our people are engaged in agricul- ture. we could not even provide 25 per cent We all knowthat drinking water is scace. of our budget for agricultural produce. So, I request that while formulating the next budget MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. We the han. Finance Minister should look into it cannot give more than five minutes to each so that at least 25 per cent of our budget speaker. Wind up, please. should be spent towards improvement of agriculture. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: I am con- cluding, Sir. My last point is. we are providing sub- sidy for agricultural implements. That sub- We all know that there is scarcity of sidy shouldbe extended to the other agricul- drinking water almost everywhere in the tural implements including tractors etc. country including the State of Orissa Of Similarly in the case of interest rates. the course , it is the primary duty of the State hon. Finance Minister should see that the Government, but unfortunately in a State like rate of interest on investments in Indira Vikas Orissa where no further resource mobiliza- Patras and Kisan Vikas Patras is increased tion facility is there, they should be provided because it is mainly benefiting the poor people with adequate funds so that they may pro- in our society. vide drinking water specially to the rural areas. There are minimum needs programme The bank facilities which are now pro- 413 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 414

vided to the rural people are not adequate. In is that our economy continues to improve this connection, I request that at least one day by day. But I want to draw the attention branch of the nationalised banks should be of the Han. Minister to 2-3 opened in a rural area, taking 20,000 people points ... (/nt9"Uptions) I was saying that our as the criterion. economy has improved in every sphere. The Minister of State for Energy is present here. Wrth these words, I once again extend During Seventh Five Year Plan we have my wholehearted support to the Finance Bill produced 250 megawat more than fixed introduced by the hon. Finance Minister. target. The production of coal has been increased by 7 per cent and production of [ Translation] cement and iron has also increased. Our programme for all round development has SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA worked successfully in every sphere. Under (Aobertsganj): Mr . Deputy Speaker, Sir. I such condition. I want to draw your attention wholly support the Budget of this year as well towards 2-3 points. I am Secretary of the as the Finance Bill presented just now by the Parliamentary Board. When last meeting of Hon. Finance Minister. The way our Govern- the Board was held in the presence of Hon. ment has faced the economic situation with Minister, all the Members had stated then oourage inspite of the crisis and worst drought and at the time discus~ion on Budget too that of the centuary under the leadership of Shri prices have been increased and consumer Rajiv is praise worthy. You may observe, price index is the route cause of price rise, whether in the field of agriculture or in the due to which income- tax exemption limit field of industriy there is a production of 170 would have to be raised from As. 18000 to million tonne foodgrains this year and estab- As. 25000. lished a new record. Our achievement in the industrial sector is more than the fixed tar- The middle class people and the lower gets. Therefore, I can claim that our eco- level employees, whether they are in State nomic condition is quite sound. The econo- Governments or in the Central Government mists of the world were astonished at the have all demanded that the exemption limit way India made savings in spite of difficult of income tax should be raised to As. 25 situations. We have even established record thousand from As. 18 thousand. Although in it. Everybody was worried in this country the present exemption covers income upto that our deficit has been increasing. We As. 50-60 thousand yet it is not practical. It is increased our export by 28 per cent during certain that the employees and officials are last year. We have improved export import not getting any benefit due to the sharp rise position. Import have been brought down in consumer prices. They suffer on this while exports have been pushed up and we account. shall achieve success in this field in future also. The greatest thing is that inspite of Therefore, in defence to the aspirations worst drought of this centenary. Prime Min- of the people throughout the country. this ister of the country hard assured the people demand should be accepted. You can fill the that arrangements would be made to ensure gap from another sector, but you must in- that prices do not increase by more than two crease the limit to Rs. 25 thousand. Then digits. I feel happy that these remained be- only. some welfare can be done for them. I low 10 per cent till last year. The prices did believe that it will increase the efficiency of increase but the increase was a little more employees and offi.:ials, speed up the eco- than 10 points which has been brought down nomic development of the country and will to 6.3 per cent this year. What I mean to say improve the administrative system. It will 415 Finance Bi/l, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill, 1989 416

[Sh. Ram Pyare Panika] even though there is record produdion of foodgrains in the country. Sugar is not avail- increase their standard of living also. able for the last two months in the ration shops. They are all empty. After having presented a budget which reflects public aspirations the Government In this perspective, the introduction of has announced relief of Rs. 323 crores in Jawahar Rozgar Yojana by the Hon. Prime customs and excise duty. I welcome this Minister is a welcome step. Some schemes step as do the people of this country. Now, like N.R.E.P., R.L.E.G.P. have been merged you should raise the exemption limit of in- into this scheme involving an outlay of Rs. come tax to Rs. 25,000 . This is the unani- 2100 crores and the Prime Minister has mous demand of the entire House. In refer- dedicated it to the nation. It will have favour- ence to the aspirations of the people, you able impact. But implementation of this have annou nced exemption of Rs. 323 crores scheme may take time. I would like to submit while presenting the Finance Bill for discus- that means and resources should be pro- sion. I hope you will keep it up by announcing vided to those places, where drought condi- increase in examination limitof income tax to tions are prevailing. At the same time, I Rs. 25 thousand when you reply to the would like to submit few points about back- debate on the Finance Bill. Being the Secre- ward areas also. According to the Planning tary of the Congress Parliamentary party, I Commission, there are six types of back-

I assure you that you will get full cooperation ward districts, viz. hilly, desert, tribal, drought- of the House. Wherever I went, I was pres- prone and cyclonic. There should be a surized by the employees and the officials to uniform scheme fortheirdevelopment. Cent get it done. Therefore, it is necessary to do it. per cent assistance has been provided to the hill and desert areas, but the same is not true Sir, now I come towards the problem of about the other areas. my State. On the one hand, there is a record production of foodgrains this year in the SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora) : We country, but on the other hand, 3-4 divisions are ready to exchange areas. out of 35 divisions in the State are facing severe drought, which is unprecedented in SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: You have the last 85 years. Mirzapur and Sonebhadra to do this to remove the regionai imbalance. are two such districts. Some hill areas and Some districts in the country have been desert areas are also affected besides some declared as industrially backward. But at areas of Bundelkhund and Varanasi. But my some places decisions were affected by own constituency is terribly affected. Many political considerations. Therefore, Shivar- of the hon. Members of Parliament from aman Committee was constitut~d which said different States including my friends from that instead of the district, block should be Bihar were saying that the ground water taken as a unit. Shivaraman Committees level in their States have gone down. The Report was favourable. There are no indus- hone Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh has tries in Mirzapur and Sonebhadra areas. stated that 50 thousand handpumps will be Per-capita income in these districts is also installed in our areas. We welcom 9 this step. very low. More than forty per cent of the But the Centre Should also provide assis- population comprises scheduled castes and tance to such States. I would like to submit scheduled tribes. The whole area is back- that there is no arrangement of drinking ward. but it has not been declared as indus- water in Mirzapur and Sonebhadra districts. trially backward. We are happy that 8 indus- There are no foodgrains in the ration shops, trial centres have been given to Uttar Pradesh 417 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill. 1989 418

by the Central Government. You should look Sir. one of the biggest problems the into the matter if there are problems in taking country is facing today is about resource decision about Uttar Pradesh due to politics. mobilisation. Whenever we talk of mobilisa- I would like to submit in strong words that tion of more money, whenever we want to Mirzapur. which is schedule caste and sched- provide more jobs, more projects, the ques- uled tribe dominated district in Uttar Pradesh. tion of money comes in. And I would like to should be declared as industrially backward offer two definite suggestions to Shri Shank- district. Industries should be set up there on arrao Chavan on this issue. One is the for- large scale. Incentives and subsidies should &ign resource mobilisation and the other is be provided to the eduCfated entreprenurs. the local resource mobilisation. If you see Carpet in bustry is spread throughout the our balance of payments, it is really a matter country. In Mirzapur, it started in the 17th of concern. And the Finance Minister himself century. But nothing has been done there to has said that the debt service ratio has gone develop it further. Design centre, houses for up from 14 or 15 per cent to 25 per cent this weavers and training centres were set up in year. This is by not calculating the'FCNR and Varanasi only. I demand that a design centre NRER deposits which we are mobilising for carpet weaving should be set up in from the NRls and we are getting nearly Rs. Mirzapur also. Government provides sev- 14,000 or Rs. 15,000 crores from Jt. This is enty per cent subsidy to the exporters and I really a matter of concern. I would like to say welcome it. But the weavers are not even that the only solution which we can have in provided the minimum wages. Incentives this is, instead of borrowing today the foreign should be provided directly to the weavers I borrowings of our country is ... (lnt9"Uptions) have to conclude early as your bell is con- tinuouc;Iy ringing. The economists all over MR. CHAIRMAN: Order, order. the world are surprised by the fact that how a developing country like India is strengthen- ing its economy day by day, even though the natural calamities like droughts and floods SHRI MURLI DEORA.... more than 45 continue to hit the country at regular inter- billion US dollars. vals. In the end, I would like to congratulate our Hon. leader Shri Rajiv Gandhi for he is THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI taking the country towards progress by steer- S.B. CHAVAN): Slightly less. ing it clear of all difficult situations. I support the Finance Bill and hope that my points will SHRI MURLI OEORA: And the foreign be taken care of . investment in our country. today in 22 years, is almost 1 .6 or 1.7 billion US dollars. What [English] I am trying to say is that we should allow more foreign equity participation in our in- SHRI MURLI DEORA (Bombay South): dustries rather than borrowing so heavily. Sir, I rise to support the Finance Bill pre- When we borrow, we pay interest. Our debt sented by the hon. Finance Minister. I would cha~ges are going up. And by the time, we like to congratulate Shri S.B. Chavan for pay the interest rate, the rupee is further bringing this Budget. It has really given a devalued against the Dollar, Yen, Deutsche definite direction to the economy. I am happy Mark, Sterlings, Pounds ~tc. In actual terms to say that he has enforced some financial we are paying more interest rate than what discipline. I hope in the coming year also the contracting today. Some time back, there same thing will be brought to the Ministry of was a question in Parliament which said that Finance. Yen borrowings on soft loans were at the 419 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bil/, 1989 420

[Sh. Murli Daora] crunch, not a massive response in the share market or the public response was less. rate of four per cent. The borro_wars and the What is really needed is what the Britain has industrialists in Bombay were paying the done. Even the socialist countries like China interest. But after six or seven years, the and Russia are ready to do it. I am not talking rupee was devalued to the tune of 40 per about privatisation. I am talking about, what cent. In actual terms, we were not paying they call in Britain, the 'share owing democ- four per cent interest but we were paying at racy'. A small part of our public share owing the rate of 17 to 18 per cent per year. What should be dilated. It should not be dilated to I am trying to say is that instead of borrowing Tatas, Birlas or somebody else. It should be more and more soft or hard currency loans dilated to the real public with the maximum - China has become one of the big borrow- share holding of one man. This will really ers in the world and the soft currency loan will attract massive resources and the amount of be reduced very well-we should attract money which you need for the plan, the more foreign investment in our country. I do amount of money which you need for em- not know why these FERA regulations and ployment generation and the amount of the Company Law Boards are so negative to money which you need for Budget making the foreign investment. Why should they can really come from this. I am not talking of insist on the industries which have the for- privatisation. eign investment of 70,80 or 90 per cent, to reduce it to 40 per cent! Our licensing policy 13.00 hrs_ and our fiscal policy has to be revamped so that anybody who has more forE:ign invest- I will now come to liberal economy. How ment , should not be put to a disadvantage can we get more and more money in the position. Then only, more a"nd more foreign Revenue Department? Thanks to the good investment will come. Recenfly when you work done by your Department, the revenue were in America. You have seen the mas- has gone up. But what is really needed is sive response to your appeal. India's credi- liberalisation. If the licensing and the fiscal bility and India's debt servicing capacity is policy is liberal, automatically you would get very high. We must take advantage of it. more money. Coming to that point again, I say that th~t will only reduce our foreign borrowings, that will I would like to draw your attention to reduce our debt service charges and that will cement. We were making 21 or 22 million keep the interest of the foreign investors tonnes of cement in 1982-83. Tobay we are alive. If he has his own equity share, hp. will making 42 or 43 million tonnes of cement. In be interested in the export, he will be IntAr- four or five years time we have doubled the ested in the technology and he will be cement production. We were importing interested in upgrading the industry which is cement. There was a black-marketing in there. This is regarding the foreign mohilisa- cement. Whereas the official price was Rs. tion. 16, the market price was Rs 60. The real money was not going in the coffers of the As far as local mobilisation isconcerned, industry; nor was it coming to the Tax De- nearly As. 65,000 crores are invested in our partment. Today by liberalising the economy public sector enterprises. I am not talking of and the pricing policy of cement, we are privatisation of public sector enterprises. You manufacturing double the quantity, 1000/0 have the public sectors like the NTPC and more in four years. the Telephone Nigams who are borrowing very heavily. Suring 1987-88,-there w~s a Your Department is raising six times 421 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Financ(J Bill, 1989 422 more revenue in cement excise than what Chief Minister of Maharashtra, you yourself they were getting. had inaugurated it. They are Differential rate of interest (DRI) and Setf Employment Pro- In this Budget you were very kind to de- gramme for Urban Poor (SEPUP) . More control aluminium. I don't know why more money has to be give for these schemes. products are not de-controlled. Why alumin- You banks are not very liberal. You have ium and cement only? There are several been the Chief Minister of Maharashtra and other products which should fall in line with you have seen Bombay. Some of the money this. Cement has clearly indicated that this which was earmarked for SEPUP has not liberal policy-fiscal and licensing must be been utilised by the banks in Bombay. Why? there. They are insisting on licences and ration cards. You don't expect a cobbler who is Earlier there was a time when they used sitting on the street of Bombay to have a to say that one cannot manufacture cement. licence. Afterall, what does it require to give Only small people can manufacture cement. Rs. 2500 or As. 3000 loan? Those in Bom- For one m mion ton ne cement plant one needs bay and other urban areas who are selling Rs. 130 crores. Who can invest Rs. 130 small utensils and cloth are not given any crores? Then came the policy of delicen- help. sing-whether it is FERAor multi-national or large house or MRTP. It is good, it has paid Therefore, I would request you that just the dividend and increased the production. It on the lines of Jawahar Rozgar Yojana, a has also stopped the import and it is now Programme for urban poor also - like DRI giving more revenue to you. This type of SEPUP where they can get loan-should be policy should be followed more and more. formulated. The existing programmes should be revamped to the needs of the urban The Prime Minister has announced last areas. weekJawahar Rozgar Yojana, the conglom- eration of all the antipoverty schemes like Another aspect in this regard is that IRDP, employment guarantee schemes and there is a ceiling of Rs. 7200 income peryear all that. As 2100 crores is provided to give for a family. Nobody can prove whether a jobs to the rural poor underthis scheme. This tam ily is earning Rs. 7200 per year or not in is a very good scheme. Everybody in the urban areas. You also know what As. 7200 country has welcomed it. There is no doubt means in a city like Bombay. It is nothing. about it. What they are doing is that they are produc- ing false certificates in order to make them- I would like to draw your attention to one selves eligib1e for the loan. You yourself aspect. Of course, India is a country of rural have gone to your areas last week. I would people. 70% of the people live in the rural request you that this ceiling of Rs. 7200 to areas. But today 1!3 of the total population is become entitled for SEPUP and other loans living in the urban areas also. So the time has should be increased specially in the urban come when we must also emphasize on areas. This will really help. giving some help-specially employment generation programmes- to the urban areas One of the major items of deficit in our. like Bombay, Delhi, Madras. Calcutta and budget is debt charges. You have expressed other big cities. There are only two pro- concern once that the domestic rate of sav- grammes which are prevailing in big cities ing is going down. It has gone down from 23 which are employment generation or anti- 112% to 22% or 21 3/4 0/0. I agree that there poverty programmes. When you were the should be more encouragement to the people 423 Finance Bill. 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill, 1989 424

[Sh. Murli Deora] all; it has no impact at all, because in the Public Distribution system, the quota of rice to save. But the interest rates are very high wheat and sugar has been reduced. I will these days. the inte!est rates should be high- quote one instance. In my State of Karna- enough to encourage the savings. But it taka, we get 70 thousand tonnes or 75 thou- should not be so high to discourage invest- sand tonnes of essential articles per month ment. It is better for the people to put the last year in the same season, when there money in the Saving Deposits and in the was several drought allover the country. But public sector bonds - 10% interest free, tax- it has been slashed to 40 thousand tonnes free bonds. If you get 10% tax-free bond, you this year per month. Even the quota of wheat % are really getting 17 , 18% and even 19% has also been slashed. Inspite of this bumper interest without tax. So I would mention that crop, if there is price rise, there must be there is a need to see that the interest rates something wrong somewhere. Why this price are rationalised. To some industries which rise? I would like to know this from the hon. are productive, like exports,- you have done Finance Minister, when replying. Whenever something and they have reduced 1 % now- we talk of price rise, the Government gives which give jobs, which provide employment the figure of the wholesale price index. It is and which helps the national section, the given by your Department. that is not the private sector, the rate of interest must go criteria. The common man is not interested down. Otheruise the debt charges will be in the figures or in the statistics. He is inter- high; otherwise the cost of the money to the ested in the concrete results. So I would industries will be very high. request the hon. Minister to took into it.

SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore For the past four years, I have been South): Mr. Chairperson, Sir, I welcome the observing this that just on the eve of the relief given by the han. Finance Minister budget, the Government increases the while introducing the Finance Bill. But at the administered prices. It has been a regular same time, I would like to point out that practice of this Government. The Govern- whenever a relief isgiven, it should bepassed ment does not care for what happens; what on to the consumer. Last year also, number effect it will have onthe economy of the of reliefs were given, but I am sorry to say country. The rise in the administered prices that many 01 the reliefs have been cornered wil! also add to the cost. Now what has by the manufacturers themselvos. It ha~ not happene

ISh. K.P. Singh Deo] this opportunity, through the Finance Bill, through th~on. Minister and the House to family pension holders have been sought to say that tWo aspects, in my humble opinion, be given, tax concessions for the national have not been given the required amount of housing bank which will stinmalale housing attention . One is the backward States. activities. and as I mentioned. to the blind Centralised planning over the last four dec- and the physically handicapped persons. He ades, the coercive planning which is im- has sought to rationalise agricu"ural income posed from above have resulted in regional which will go a long way to cater to the imbalances and four States like Orissa. problems of the farmers who are 'still ex- Madhya Pradesh, Bihar, and Uttar Pradesh posed to the vagaries of weather, Despite being for below the all India average. this, it was the good supply management of the economy by the Government, the finan- I come from the richly endowed State of cial years of 1987 and 1988 ensured that the Orissa having the largest segment of people peaple of the country did not suffer at large. living below the poverty line, which is a The farmers of our country have given us the paradox by itself. 'Orissa has been backward required seH-reliance and seH·sufficiency in historically because it was the last State in food by which we are able to undertake all India to fall to the British in 1803 . We were our projects and progress in our path of neglected by the British and we took off for planned development. It is very laudable to developmentmuchlaterthenourotherneigh- give concessions to our agriculturists and bouring sister States. It is a State which is the agricultural comm unity. He has sought to beset historically and chronically with three bring modifications to investments in the natural calamities of drought, flood and deposit accounts which will help savings. He cyclone and sometimes all the threes have has sought to channelise profits of undertak- been combined guests of ours which has ings and ventures for construction activities. resulted not only eroding the resource This will also go a long way to meet the mobilisation capacity of the State Govern- supply and demand position of housing and ment but, adversely affected by the various other construction activities. Then, he has definitions of the Planning Commission, made modification for deductions at source, various formulas like the Gadgil formula and for people who have fixed income and for the modified Gadgil formula and various other white collar workers of our country. He adhoc measures which the Planning Com- has been mindful of the fact that tax avoid- mission or the other institutions have taken. ance and evasions is a chronic problem. He The successive Finance Commissions have has also taken measures for tax avoidance. only sought to fill in the resource gap. This On weatth tax, he has should to rationalise gap filling process has not been able to and give certain concessions to registered obliterate or to remove the regional imbal- societies, non-Governmental organisations. ances and the regional backwardness of not voluntary organisations. He has enhanced only Orissa but as I mentioned, the other 3 the rate of expenditure tax. In a nutshell. he States such as Madhya Pradesh. Bihar and has sought to take something from the haves Uttar Pradesh along with Orissa which over for the have notes. He has stimulated sav- the last three plan period, in spite of 8 Fi- ings, generated growth and improve the nance Commission still remain at the lowest quality of life of the vast majority of a seg- rung of the economic ladder of our country. ment of population on which is still living below the subsistence level, below the pov- I am extremely thankful and grateful to erty line, specially the tribal and other weaker the young Prime Minister who has realised sections of the society. I would like to take that what is necessary is decentralised 429 Finance Bill. 1989 VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 430

planning; planning from below which wiJI same type of demographic pattern in Orissa reflect the backwardness, the requirements, too and in fad the intensity of poverty in the lack of infrastructure like irrigation, Orissa is even more acute. But I am sorry to communication, transportation and energy. say that no special programme has been This must be reflected in the State Plan and taken up in Orissa. Therefore, I take this also in the Central Plan, in order to remove opportunity to draw the attention of the the regional imbalances and regional ine- Government to this important aspect. quality which is the cherished aim of our Government , our Party and also the plan- My other point is on ex-servicemen. I ning process and I hope of the Planning had the privilege of being associated with the Commission. High level Committee on Ex-servicemen when , was serving under the han. Minister Sir, it is with this context that for the first of Finance when he wC!S in the Defence time all the Members of Parliament from Ministry. This High level Committee on Ex- Orissa called on and met the 9th Finance servicemen was set up sometime in Febru- Commission when they visited Orissa, sub- ary 1984 by our late revered Prime Minister, mitted the memorandum and today Orissa is Shrimati Indira Gandhi. We were given one in the enviable position because of the In- year's time to study the problems of ex- terim Report and recommendations of the servicemen and to recommend to the Gov- Finance Commission. We have had to put a ernment, which we did in seven months. In curb on our social security measures about fact, three days before she died, the hon. handicap people, old age pension, blind Finance Minister who was the then hon. deaf and mute people, not being able to give Defence Minister handed over a copy of the UGC scales to our teachers and professors, report on ex-servicemen to Shrirnati Indira not being able to give central scales to our Gandhi. An empowered committee of the employees. Therefore, it is only through this Defence Ministry went into every aspect of Finance Bill I can draw the attention of the the 66 recommendations which had been Orissa have utilised every forum not only given by ten ministers, one retired Lt. Gen- once but time and again. In spite of it, it is with eral, one retired Air Marshal and one retired anguish that I saythatthe Finance Bill should Admiral who were war heroes in the 1971 have reflected on some of the backward War. They were General Kandeth, Admiral States which have remained backward over Sharma and Air Marshal Kapur. Air Marshal the last three of four plans. Kapur was a member of Parliament as well as the former Lt. Governor of Delhi. There We have made special measures for were also members of Parliament from this rural poor. We have introduced Nehru Rojgar House who are sitting today as Ministers. Of Vojna . We have 20-Point Programme for the 10 ministers, one is a Governor, one is a weaker sections of society. We have a Chief Minister and all the others are Central number of programmes for such backward Ministers. Now, let me point out what I have and weaker sections. but as yet we have no found from an answer given to Shri P.M. special programme for the backward States Sayeed and others on 3rd April 1989 on their which have not been taken care of by the question regarding the demands of the ex- various formulas of the Planning Commis- servicemen. There was also a calling atten- sion, or by the definition of hill States or such tion motion on this subject, two orthree days other criteria which includes such States like back. I am very sorry to note that we have the North-eastern States like Himachal sought to play with statistics and figures. I Pradesh and parts of Uttar Pradesh, i.e. was said that 50 out of 66 recommendations Kumaon and Garhwal hills. There ;s the had been accepted, as if it was a great thing 431 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill, 1989 432

[Sh. K.P. Singh Deo] jesh Pilot who is a minister now were also members of the Committee. But here is a and as if figures were going to solve the secretary to the Department of Personnel problems of ex-servicemen who have given who is sitting in judgement over 10 ministers I the best part of their lives to ensure the of Government of India. Well. if this is how freedom, security, integrity, and sovereignty you want to run your democracy. I have of our country and who are also very disci- nothing to say. It should have been proper, if plined, dedicated and motivated persons. a Cabinet Sub-Committee or the Cabinet Today more than 35 lakhs of ex-servicemen should have taken a decision. Because as I are languishing. 70,000 ex-servicemen are was telling you earlisr, after this High- Level released every year. Committee' Report was accepted by the Government, it was given to an empowered Here I must congratulate the young Committee for implementation not to sit on Raitway Minister for the way he looks after judgement. The Chairman was the Addi- the retired r:ailway people because it boosts tional Secretary of Defence. who is today the the morale of the serving railway personnel. Secretary to the Government of India. the So also it is the way that we look aftor the Financial Adviser to the Ministry of Defence. welfare of the ex-snicemon who has dedi- and the Joint Secretary in the Department of cated his life to the motherland and who has Personnel were all associated. At no stage. made the supreme sacrifice for the mother- was there any doubt that the entire Report in land which is going to build up the morale toto was accepted by the Government. and esprit de crops of the service personnel. Therefore, it is not a question of 50 out of 66 The second point was "one rank one recommendations being accepted. As I was pension." And the third point was full resto- mentioning, it is the quality of the recommen- ration of pension after commutation. Twenty dations which have not been accepted and two States have already done it and we are this is what I seek to bring to the notice of the not going to do it. I am told. On the Calling House. Attention, a plea was taken by the Govern- ment that the case is sub-judice. Nothing Now I would like to quote the answer on prevents the Government to have the will

page 2, para 15.18: and take a decision to give II one rank one pension" from a prospective date. It is only

It The recommendations for providing going to cost Rs. 220 crores. That has also an assured employment upto 58 years been calculated by the Ministry of Defence in of age was considered by the Commit- 1984. tee under the chairmanship of secretary personnel, which came to the conclu- So. these are the points which I would sion that is would not be feasible to like to take notice of. provide for assured re-employment of all the person retiring from the Defence My last point is about the Territorial Services." Army. Territorial Army is a citizens' army. The Citizens desiring of helping in the cause of the defence of the country have a normal Now what I want to emphasise is this. avocation and they join the Territorial Army Here is a Secretary, a civil servant sitting in for two month in a year. We have been using judgement over a unanimous recommenda- them on various tasks. like ecological task tion of ruling party MPs as also an opposition force and so on. Sir. in Bombay, in your MP, Shri Jaswant Singh from Rajya Sabha. constituency. when there was a Port strike, Prof. Narain Chand Parashar, and Shri Ra- the Territorial Army was utilised for running 433 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 434 the essential services. The Government is SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO: There are two pledged to improve the Territorial Army points. One is "one rank one pension" and Report the conditions of service in order to the second is employment upto the age of 58 make it more attractive for the people to join years. It is because we are generating 5 it. The han. Finance Minister, as I said, was million jobs a year. If we cannot absorb aU my boss in the Defence Ministry and he had 70,000 ex-servicemen because all 70.000 accepted the Territorial Army also under may not be in need of jobs, at least those who Maj. General Sparrow, who ;s an hon. wish to have them, you can absorb them. Member of this House. Today, the very Ministry of Finance is putting impediments Secondly employmentto retired people. and penalising people from the general in- They retire at the age of 33 years to 38 years. surance and banks who are members of We will also reduce the pensionary liabilities Territorial Army for going in and taking part in and at the same time, we will be utilising for the exercise and training. I have met you in nation building activities their patriotic, your chamber and I have also drawn your democratic, discipline and dedicated trained attention. I have also written tatters to you. skilled manpower. But these people who are employed in banks and insurance, when they come for thoir [ Trc-tnslation] training, their promotions are stopped, their increments are stopped and their salary is ·SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN deducted, This is against the provisions of (Palghat): Mr. Chairman, I riseto support the the Territorial Army Act which had been Finance Bill moved by the Hon'ble Finance passed by this august House in 1949. Minister. I also welcome the new conces- sions he announced while moving the Fi- MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. nance Bill.

SHRI K.P. SINGH OED: Just one sec- When we look at the economy we find ond, Sir, that during the past four years there has been phenomenal growth in all sectors of the MR. CHAIRMAN: I have already given economy. The industrial production in- you sufficient time. creased by 9% and the agricultural produc- tion went up by 20%. Similarly there has SHRI K.P. SINGH OED: Sir, the han. been great increase in the G.N. P. I will give Finance Minister was not in his 5eat, when' you an example. Between 1980-81 and 1983- was speaking about the Ex-servicemen. He 84 the increase in the GNP was Rs. 62300 was my Minister in the Ministry of Defence crores whereas between 1 984-85 and 1987- when the Report was handed over to him. 88 the increase was to the tune of Rs. 85144 So, I would like to draw his attention. crores. In the same way employment oppor- tunities have been created as a result of the MR. CHAIRMAN: Do not repeat the Implementation of the Various anti-poverty points which you have already conveyed to programmes. I do not want to go into the the hon. Minister. statistics. All this indicates that there has been unprecedented improvement in the SHRI K.P. SINGH OED: Sir, otherwise, economy. This is the result of the policies I will get a computerised answer after two formulated by the Prime Minister. I take this months that is has been sent to such and opportunity to complement him and the such Ministry for implementation. Government.

MR. CHAIRMAN: The Minister of Fi- Sir, there are two factors which affect nance was here. He was taking all the notes the Indian economy very adversely. These from your speech. He will convey it to him. It are black money and price rise If we are not is not necessary to repeat the points again. at b to control these two factors the common

*Translation of the speec' h originally delivered in Malyalam 435 Finance Bil" 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill, 1989 436

[Sh. V.S. Vijayaraghavan] sell it to the consumer at reasonable prices. However we have not been able to achieve man will not be able to get the benefits of that objective Neither the farmer gets a development. Today black money is increas- remunerative price nor are we able to sell ing. How many crores of rupees of black things tothe consumer at reasonable prices. money are being generated everyday. I will Rather the consumer has to pay very high give you just one example to showthe extent price for his essential requirements. I will of black money being generated in the coun- give you just one example. When a farmer in try. Hundred of crores of rupees of black Maharashtra who produces onion gets only money are generated in the property trans- 30 to 40 paise per kilo gram, the consumer actions in the major cities of India. Take the in Delhi has to pay 300 to 400 paise per case of this capital city. The prices of land kilogram for the same. The consumer has to and houses are going up by leaps and bounds pay a much higher price for each and every here. The reasons that the rising population commodity he purchases. The cooperative of this city needs accommodation. So natu- societies were established to avoid this situ- rally the prices of land and houses will in- ation. If we are able to pay atleast one rupee crease. People who have a lot of money will for a kilo of onion to the farmer who produces purchase land and construct houses and it and sell it at 1.50 paise or Rs. 2/- to the within six months or one year will sell it. In consumer both will be benefitted. The farmar one deal itself he will make lakhs of rupees. will get a little money in his hands and the It is all black money. The Government has consumer will be able to save more. H the laws to deal with this situation. It can acquire cooperative sector had succeeded today we the property which is undervalued. But I would have been able to find enough money would like to ask you how many such prop- to finance our plans with the savings of our erties have been acquitted in this city so far. people. But this is being taken away by the The law does not just work. Thus crores of middle man. Therefore the Government rupees worth of black money is generated in should realise the fact that we will be strength- this city alone every day. This is just a small ening the economy by strengthening the example. The problem is very serious. I may cooperative sector and should take suitable not be able to suggest any specific meas- measures in this regard. ures to check the black money. But the Government must pay serious attention to We have been hearing for a long time this problem and should take stringent thatthe tax-structure is going to be reformed. measures to root out black money because But so far no concrete steps have been black money is distorting the economy of our ta!{en in this respect. There is a general country. feeling that the direct tax base in rather small. In fact there are two problems here. Now I come to the question of price rise. One is with regard to the raising of the There are mainly two methods to control the exemption limit of income tax. The second prices-one is to strengthen the public distri- one is to tax the rich who are not paying any bution system and the other is to strengthen tax at the moment. So far as the first problem the cooperative sector. The public distribu- is concerned, it is very essential to raise the tion system today covers 15 to 200/0 of the exemption limit of income tax in orderto give total food requirement of the people. My the much needed relief to the fixed income opinion is that in order to have effective group. To say that under the present scheme control cover the prices the public distribu- of concessions tax does not have to be paid tion system must have a wider coverage and upto an income of As. 1 lakh is absolutely more items should be distributed through it. wrong. There is no logic in the argument that Another instrument for controlling prices is a salaried employee can get out of the tax net the cooperative sector. The main objective if he saves his entire salary. I, therefore of this sector is to provide remunerative strongly demand that the exemption limit prices to the farmer and buy his produce and should be raised to As. 30,000/-. With regard 437 Finance Bil" 1989 VAISAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 438 to the second problem all of us know that the central investment subsidy to the small even a pan seller in major towns and cities scale industry. This has adversely affected earns 300 to 400 rupees per day but he does the industrial development of Kerala I not pay any tax. Similarly there are people demand that this decision be reconsidered who earn on an average one thousand to two and the investment subsidy be restored. thousand rupees daily and yet do not pay any income tax. Cannot these people be Sir. before I conclude I want to raise one taxed? The Government must think about it or two important points regarding my State. seriously. Coconut plays a very important rolEl in the economy of Kerala. In fact Kerala derives its Now I come to some of the problems of name from coconut. Of late the price of my state--Kerala. Kerala is being ruled by a coconut has sharply declined which has Government which has no interest in the almost ruined the small coconut growers in development of the State and therefore no the State. The Minister for agriculture has development is taking place there. The pres- assured in the House that a decision would ant state government come to power prom- be taken SOO'1 about fixing a floor price for ising to create 10 lakhs jobs every year. But coconut. But it has not been done yet. I they have not been able to create even ten demand that immediate decision be taken to jobs. There are about 30 lakh people in the fix the floor price for coconut. State who are unemployed. According to tne statistics upto June 1988, there were eleven Similarly we were given an assurance lakhs seventy three thousand uneducated by the Minister for agriculture last year that persons who were unemployed. Similarly Kerala will also be included inthe programme the number of educated unemployed per- for intensive food production. It has not yet sons was 15 lakhs 53 thousand. The prob- been done. I request the Government to lem is so serious that immediate and urgent include Kerala in the list. A little while ago I remedy has to be found. On this occasion I spoke about the negative attitude of the must congratul~e the Prime Minister for Government of Kerala. There are many announcing the new employment scheme. I examples to prove this. My District. Palghat welcome the scheme. In fact it has been is a drought prone district which has serious welcomed by all right thinking people in the problem of drinking water. Considering this country. But unfortunately the Chief Minister the Prime Minister sanctioned the technol- of Kerala has criticised it. This only shows ogy mission for this district. But now I find that the Chief Minister is not interested in that the Kerala Government has not included providing jobs to the unemployed people. In Palghat in the list of drought prone districts. fact wherever the leftist governments are in They have listed only six districts and Palghat power the same negative attitude is being has been shown as only a partially drought shown by them in respect of serious prob- prone district. I charge that this has been lems of the people. They donot want our done on political considerations. Same is the youngsters to get employment. If they get case with the implementation of anti-poverty employment these parties will not get people prog"rammes. Political considerations are to shout the slogan 'InqullabZindabad'. That brought to bear on every aspect of imple- is the problem. In order to solve the unem- mentation. It is time that we took it seriously. ployment problem of Kerala industrialization I would demand that a strict monitoring ar- has to take place. Till 1985-86 the central rangement be made by the centre to ensure investment in the industrial sector in Kerala that the mon&y given by the centre is prop. has been coming down. According to the arly utilised without political considerations statistics in 19'88 the Central investment in and the benefit reaches the real beneficiar- Kerala was a rn'ere 1.60/0. This situation ies. should change. We must get more indus- tries. On this occasion I want to make an important point. The centre has withdrawn I once again support the Finance Bill. 439 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill. 1989 440

SHRI HARfSH RAWAT (Almora): Mr. sector. One such industrial group is called Chairman, Sir, I would like to support my M.R.T.P houses. It starts with the daughter- friend, Shri Murli Oeora that a separate in-law setting up an industry in the small scheme on the line of Jawahar Rozgar Yojana scale sector and availing of a Jot of conces- should be formulated for the urban areas so sions besides export ooncessions from the that loans could be provided to the unem- Government in the name of small sector. ployed and the poor living in cities. I was Thus she tries to save money. There should reminded of 1985 Budget when Shri Deora a limit in this regard and a check should be was giving some important suggestions. At there on the people related to big industrial that time, I was one of those few people who houses that they do not get entry into the said in subdued voice, that this budget would small scale sector. It will be better, if we encourage consumerism and will help the reserve the small scale sector for those rich people. I am happy that the hon. Minister youngman whose first generation of entre- of Finance while presenting the 1989 Budget preneur is missing and no one has set up has kept in view all the constraints and industry in their family. They should be given limitations. Not only he rectified the distor- licenses. During the las two-three years, a tions that took place at that time, but also sort of competition has starod in consumer- took steps to control consumerism and to ism. When we see the advertisement on check capitalists and to help the poor, which television, it appears that everyone is living has been the ideology of the Congress party. in that world of fantasy as shown in the I would like to thank the han. Minister of advertisements. There is a competition Finance for these steps. It is good that for- among the advertisers of scooters and mo- eign companies are allowed to participate in tor cycles and even the poorest person feels the development in India on large scale. that the world has changed and progressed They participate within their own limits and a lot. It causes disappointment to him. we welcome it. But it is necessary to have Numerous collaboration have been entered some kind of control on them. My friend said into in the field of automobiles. A close check that there should be democratic mass par- should be kept on them. U should be seen ticipation in the public sector. But if we try to whether they have done indianization or not dilute the concept of public sector further, it because they had undertaken to do indiani- will have adverse effect on the people work- zation at the time of getting license. I am ing in that secter. It will effect our baSIC afraid that very few companies have done concept also. This fact should especially be indianization according totheirword. Througt"l kept in view. Under fiscal policy, many con- them OUI precious foreign exchange will cessions have been given to the big houses. continue to flow out. The Government will A demand is raised on different fora to make have to fiX a time limit for it. My fnend Shri it more liberal. But it has been seen thnt even K.P. Singh Oeo said that some of the states aftqr providing concessions, these big in- are ir. a very backward state, Utt3r Pradesh, dustrial groups are not fulfilling theIr national Bihar, Orissa and Madhya Pradesh are obligations the way it was expected of them. amo'1g them. For how long will they continue Whose capital has been invested in it? A to be backward? In some States, the Gadgil smaa entrepreneur sets up his industry after formula, on the basis of which the plan outlay taking loan from different sources and fulfils is fixed and which is also the basis for the his national obligations. At pI esent, ninety functioning of the Finance Commissions, i$ per cent of our import is done by small and not being in,plemented. The Government is modium sector. B,g industrial groups do not assisting those states where the capital in- fulfil the ~xport obligations whk.h they under vestment is increasing, but the states which take at the time of getting licenses. Some are poor are not getting any assistance. I penalty should be imposed on them, if they WOUld, therefore like to request you to re- do not fulfil It. The licenSing policy has been formulate the Gadgil formula in such away framed In such a way, that it is beneficial to so that the regional imbalances, which have the big houses, who are emerging from small since cropped up, could be removed. Head- 441 Finane. Bill. 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Finance 8ill_ 1989 442 quartt=trs of none of the nationalised banks is for them. Presently negotiations for wages located in Uttar Pradesh. Similarly none of are being made in the Public Sector under- the big companies or Public Sector Under- takings. Negotiations are being made in these takings, barring one or two, have their head- undertakings after every four years. When- quarters in the state. Such states should be ever any settlement is made, discontment given major share in their small savings., among Central Government employ99s Presently, only 80 per cent share is given, increases. If the Government constitutes a b\Jt I request.that it may please be raised to permanent wage review board for Central 90 or 95 per cent in respect of Uttar Pradesh. Government employees on the ~ine of pay This will effect great changes in these States commission, ii will provide a great reHef to and will be of great help to them. Financial them. On behalf of the Central Government institutions functioning inthe State should be employees I would like to urge upon you to allowed to go in for market borrowing. With- pay ad-hoc bonus to these employees out which states like Uttar Pradesh are reel- immediately and also change th~ present ing under extreme financial hardships. The system of paying bonus by making it equal to state is confronting many problems. There is 30 days salary. If you make an announce- a need to pay attention to this aspect. ment to this effect in the current financial year itself, it will have a good impact on the I would like to make two to three sug- Central Government employees. gestions in this regard.One is that there :s not need of further \4I#idening the role of Ncw I wou1d like to make my final sub- Public Sectors. There is a need to reconsider mission and conclude. The concessions we the issue of tran~ferring the Private compa- expected from the Ninth Finance Commis- nies to Public Sector. The case of scooter sion for the' hill areas have not been re- India limited is one such instance. It has not ceived. Particularly, until and unless all the been beneficial and it will not be beneficial Central Government departments prepare a too. If property worth crores of rL!pees con- separate plan outlay for the schemes being centrate is one capitalist, how many people undertaken by them. With specific directions will get employment, how many people will that such and such amount should be spent be benefited? Will they have any social ob- on the development of hill areas, there can ligation? This aspect should be reconsid- be no improvement in the economic condi- ered. My hon colleagues said a lot of things tion of these people. Presently some relaxa- about the income tax limit. I would like to tions have been given in the criteria followed share my views with them. The concessions by the banks and post office. But I feel that extended by Government to small income these relaxations should be extended on the tax payees are welcome, but the people basis of the needs of the land. We had sent belonging to limited income groups, the . a representation to the Nineth Finance Government 'servants are not able to avail of Commission with the request that states these benefits. You have, perhaps given where the hill areas are large in number these concessions to. encourage savings in should be given maximum financial assIs- an indire~ way. I would like to urge you to tance so that these hill areas could be devel- directly raise this limit from Rs. 18,000 to Rs. oped. The ministries of Central Government 25,000 so that the fixed income group could should be asked to spend a specific amount get some relief. For some reasons if it is not of funds or earmark certain percentage of possible to fix thelim:t at Rs. 25,000, you can expenditure on the basis of the areas for the at best, lower it by one or two thousand development of these hill areas. rupees. Because, after the implementation of the Fourth Pay Commission report all the' This year you have given many conces- people have come within the purview of sions and I welcome them. But, barring a income tax. It is a long standing demand of few, the benefits of these concessions have the Central Government employees thatthere not reached the consumers. For example, should be a perr:nanent wage review board let us take the cases of matches. There has 443 FinanC8 Bil/, 1989 MAY 2, 1989 Finance Bill, 1989 444

[Sh. Harish Rawst] cated. In a country which ;s divided and which is full of disparities, both horizontal been no difference in its prices even after and vertical, obviously his task is much more concessions given by the Govemment. difficult. Unfortunately, wa did not have much Similarly, there has been no difference in the time for a real discussion on the Budget. prices of condensed milk. As the Minister of Over the last few years, we have hardly ever Finance, you have given a definite dimen- touched the planning process, the progress sion, a social dimension to our Budget. To- towards the objective of development which day we can say with confidence that our should be reviewed from time to time. Budget is jotroriented, pro-poor and in the intf:lrest of middle class, seH-employed class, Today, we find lengthening shadows labourers and farmers because a number of over our economy. Many weak points which schemes have been included for them in it. had been foreseen by experts are now reach- A few days back the Hon. Prime Minister ing, shall I say, crisis limits. For example, the made a mention of the Jawahar Rojgar deficit financing, despite the injection that is Vojana. This scheme will become a big source administered annually as a matter of course in changing the life standard in rural areas. of administered prices, is reaching a very I would like to request you to allocate maxi- high unsupportable level. Inflat;on may be mum funds for this scheme this year. The hidden behind a mask of sophisticated sta- more we allocate for this scheme, more will tistics but ask the common man, he will tell be improvements in the economic condition you that ~he inflation is reaching absolutely of our Panchayats. But I find one lacuna in unbearable limits. We have become the the implementation of the policies and pro- fourth largest borrowing country, debtor grammes of the Government. The lacuna is nation in the world. We speak of increase in the absence of committed machinery which our experts, again a game of statistics. Look is particularly seen in banks. Our banks are at it in rupees it is 28 per cent; look at it in not able to provide the concessions to ex- dollars, it IS 16 per cent; but look at it in SDR service men and un-employed youths as terms, it is just above ten per cent. And that much as the Government wants to give is why the gap between import and export is them. The banks do not adopt a liberalised rising. Our foreign debt levels have reached outlook for the poor. I want that our socia~ a debt-service ratio of something of the order and financial policy should exercise strict of twenty-five percent. A few years back. the control over the banks. It should be the economists considered it to be impossible responsibility of the banks or the banking for the economy to tolerate a level of debt· sector to see that the benefits of Govern- service ratio of more than twenty per cent. ment's policies reach the poor and the bene- Our imports are rising. One cannot say how ficiaries smoothly. With these words I sup- much of it is really essential because we also port the Finance Bill. find that the non-development expenditure is rising at a much higher ate than the devel- [English] opment expenditure. We have Come 10 a point where our entire plan expenditure is SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN (Kishan- being financed partly by deficit financing and ganj): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the Finance Minis- partly by borrowed money. All our real in- ter has my sympathies. In a democratic come is going to support only non-develop- polity, buffeted as he is by pulls and pres- ment and non-productive expenditure. I am sures from all sides, the Fin~nce Minister sure that this is a matter of concern for the has an unenviable task, and more so when Financ9 Minister as well. The administrative it comes to the econom ic and financial costs must be brought down. But I would management of an elitist society based on a particularty plead with him that let us bring high cost economy wrth low productivity and down the prestige expenditure, let us bring low efficiency and which, in turn, is based on down the wasteful expenditure. In my view, a miJ( of technology, prim itive and sbphisti- the government machinery, the bureaucratic 445 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 446

machinery is over-staffed, the public sector Sir, I am very happy that today there is is over-staffed. I think they have to be pruned. emphasis in the country as a whole about evolving a new system of Panchayati Raj. I . The Finance Minister says he is spend- hope this initiative succeeds. But Jet that be ing so much on subsidies. Whom is he trying based on one single test that the reaf devel- to subsidies? If the object of the subsidy is to opmental effort shall be made at the grass- subsidise the consumer, the common man, root level, that every village shall receive its let there be no hidden subsidy, let there be a due in terms of financial resources. that one-point subsidy, subsidy at the point of every Gram Sabha shall be free to determ ine consumption, so that it really.benefits the its own priorities and .free to execute the comm\)n man in articles.of Q1ass consump- schemes that it chooses for its welfare. With- tion. I would like him to subsidise the low out that the Panchayati Raj will again simply income groups but not the profit makers, not be a scheme of centralisation. tre people who live on the fruits of exploita- tion. . Sir, I would like to say a few words about the taxation system. I would like to ask the hon. Minister whether jn tact all income is Many Members have pleaded about being taxed. My plea ;s that all income, remunerative pi ice for agriculture. In fact, for whatever the source, must be subject to all primary production, there has to be remu- taxation. I would certainly plead that the nerative price. But so far, as a nation. we are exemption limit should be raised to the level yet to conceive of a proper basis of remu- whore an average family can have a real neration. The remuneration should not be benefit. Let U3 raise it to Rs. 34,000 or R. the subsistence wage for the man who is 30,000 as the case might be and give ex- engaged in primary production, the remu- emption for expenses of education. on neration must be for a life of dignity, for a life medical expenditure, on building a small fit to be lived by a human being, for the house and even on social expenditure such common agricultl.:rists, for the masses. as political funding, I WOUld grant thet. But Similarly, Sir, wefind that much of our devel- first let all inoome be booked and let all opmental effort is being diverted away from income be taxed, Sir, the taxatior. system meeting the minimum need of the people. was sought to be rationalised some time There are minimum needs both human and back. t do recall receiving a Circular from the social. Every village in India today asks for then Financa Minister who is now on our side d. inking watt3r, for village link roads, for a of the fi"ance, in which he had asked for our small primarl school building, for a small suggestions and promised to rationalise and health-service, They ask for some bridges restructure the e:1tire taxation system. I would and culvert& and you are not able to provide like to ask the hon. Minister what happened these to them. On the other hand, there ar3 to that exercise. I do n"t find that either the schemes galore to give them things which excise duty system or the customs duty they do not "IIant, things for which they feel system or the income-tax system which has no need. Sir, the system of planning is being bpcome like a veritable jungle impossible for imposed from the top. Sir, our objective of a man of ordinary intelligence like myself to development planning must be to meet 1he w~dethrough has to be simplified. Similarly, felt needs of the people and to provide them for all w~Cllth beyond a certain limit must be essential articles of mass consumption. Our taxed. There should be no exemptions. There planning system, if I may say so, lies buried must be no concessions. rf we really want to under a multiplicity of schemes which over- reach the goal of the socialist society then lap with each other, V\'hi~h are not universal wealth leve's must be brought down in order in content or in extent. The.r administrative to eliminate or minimise the disparity. Simi- cost therefore shoots up &n'd the level of larly, In terms of excise duty, I would plead delivery goes down and this gives rise to a lot with the han. Minister to go through the of disparity, excise Jjs~ and exempt all manufactured ar· 447 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill. 1989 448

[Sh. Syed Shahabuddin] tural year. let there be no incidence of any interest on it. tides of mass consumption from the inci- dence of excise duty, the articles meant for Sir, as far as industry is concerned. I the common man like match box, like coarS9- would suggest for the hon. Minister to con- cloth, like ordinary foot-wear, like cycles-I sider that liberalisations should not mean am not worried about the motor-cycles and diversion of our scarce resources towards other vehicles-like paper which is needed non-priority items. I do not have time. Mr. by all children. Let these items be completely Chairman, to give examples. The hon. Min- free from all incidence of excise duty. I would tster knows the way the industrialists are also like to plead with him for a more vigor- proliferating in directions and in areas and in ous system of tax on consumption pattern in sectors which have absolutely nc meaning our country which has become one of ~igh for the masses, which have nothing to do living. This high-living must be brought down. with the like of the people. Therefore, this I do not mind if the han. Finance Minister diversi~n of resources must be brought to an over-taxes air~ravel, over-taxes the 5 Star end. hotels. over-taxes clubs, over-taxes drinking let him go to the sky, I do not mind, but let him Sir, I welcome the Jawahar ROJgar have some sympathy for the common man. Yojana, but let it go to all districts. There are unemployed youth in all parts of our country Sir, as far as land is concerned, we have and if unemployment is to go, let the han. been speaking about socialism. But de we Minister think in terms of prefer~ntial treat- know of the profiteering by the new 'rajas' ment for the local poople when the employ- who are coming up because of exploitation ment is generated and let this apply to the of urban land. I Nould suggest forthe consid-' public sector undertakings as well. I would eration of the Government that all urban land suggest for the consideration of the Govern- should be nationalised and there should be ment, let the scheme of one primary school a ceiling on urban property just as there is a for every group of 300 people be imple- ceiling on agricultural property. Sir. I would mented on a war priority basis, as it will plead with the hon. Ministerthat if agriculture generate lakhs of emplagment opporunities has to be the mainstay of our economy, at for our educated unemployed youth. Let least he should think In terms of spending d there be land army in various parts of the few hundred crores of rupees on crop insur- country, in every district, and that will gener- ance, and make it completely universal. Let ate a lot of new employment. him devote a few more hundreds of crores of rupees on irrigation projects. We have irriga- I would like to draw the attention of the tiol1 projects in this country which have been han. Minister towards the banking system languishing for funds for decades and they which is a law unto itself, which is a State have not been completed. Eitherthe battlo is within a State, which is not accountable even drawn between the state and te centre orthe to the han. Minister. It does not accept any battle is tjrawn between one technical com- social control, it is completely CCirrupt from mittee and another technical committee, but top to bottom, And it has been multiplying In the real reason is the paucity of resources. I a haphazard manner. Let there be a new WOUld, therefore, pl~ad for high priority for Banking CommiSSion to reorganise the irrigation. And certainly I would like that the banking system in order to provide not only agricultural credit for the agriculture season a rational system of banking, but also a is canalised to the farmer, to the agriculturist, certain measure of social control. in a more regular and organis9d manner and subjected to no interest, but only to a small Similarly, the public sector has been service charge. So long as the loan that is grC"wing. I am for the public sedor, but t"e taken for a particular crop is to be repaid at public sector was supposed to com ma:ld the the harvest of that crop in the same agricul- heights of the scor.omy not to go into produc- 449 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 450 tion of consumer articles~ I do not w&nt it to socialist budget. It is a populist budget. It is compete with the 'ordinary industry. There- an election-year budget. And I am sorry to fore, I would like the t'lon. Minister to review say that it is not yet a socialist budget. the place of public sector in the consumer industry. . 'ROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR (Hamirpur): Sir, I support the Finance Bill. Finally, Sir, on the question of technol- The most common demand of the Members ogy, we have been importing high technol- who have participated in the discussion on ogy as part of foreign investment Sir. high the Finance Bill has been with regard to technology without bringing any immediate taxation proposai, partfc1Jlarly the income- results is displacing our labour and leading tax. I also find myseH in agreement with the to new contradictions in our society and demand that the conditions are so warrant- foreign invesfment again is going into non- ing that we should raise the exemption limit priority channels, it is being into consumer from As. 18,000 to at least Rs. 25,000. No goods. Let there be a stop. doubt. it i~ true that at present, after various deductions and rebate, a person having an Sir, black money is rising at a very fast income of As. 36,000 does not pay any rate. Evasion is rampant. I know in an elec- income-tax. But still the present sxemption tion year the han. Minister cannot do very limit up to Rs. 1 B,OOO is very low and the much,but I would like to suggest to him one salaried classes are the hardest hit. May I way of bringing out this black money. Letthe bring to your notice that the salaried classes black money be invested in socially useful are the only honest tax-payers in this country sectors, for example, investment in mass bpcause ·the income-tax is deducted at housing for the common man--simple te- source. If the most honest group of people in nanments, chawls should be exempted. Let th9 country are the hardest hit, then you can no question be as!~ed about where the money imagine their plight and I also want some comes from. Similarly, if there is investment relief to be given to them at your hands. in the bonds for the development of infra- structure like communications, transport, A refenance has been made to the special railways or power, let that be ex~mpted. treatment to Hill States and in this connec~ Perhaps that might enable us to utilise the tion, I would like 10 point out two or three black money that exists-something we things; cannot control--at least to the nation's bene- fit. Most of the Central Government em~ ployees in the hill States and States known Finally. Sir, I come to the question of as special category States, which are mostly concessions, the concessions that the han. hill States, have the grouse that whereas the Minister has outlined before the House in his State Government has given to its employ- opening speech have hardly touched the ees hills allowances, the Central Govern- fringe of the problem. They do not really go ment has continued to harp on the old theme into the depths and do not touch really the of 1,000 metre attitude as the basic criterion common men. However, there is one item, of granting hill allowance. With the result, which I very warmly welcome, i.e. conces- there is an anomaly that the persons em- sions on the question of paper and paper ployed on comparable position in State boards because that really affect t,he future Government are drawing higher pay packets of their nation. than the persons having the similar jobs in the Central services. Now this criterion of The han. Finance Minister has tried to 1,000 metres in height for a station to be give this year a prudent budget. no doubt. eligible for hill allowance is rather very falla- But it does not take us anywhere towards the cious because there are stations which are socialist society of our dreams. I do not think be'yond stations of 1,000 metres height and that the han. Minister will claim that it is a actually situated on a river bed but may not 451 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance BiD, 1989 452

[Prof. Narain Chand Parashar] giving a LDPT in a village. Similarly, upgra- dation of post office. They would not regard be having that height and the life would be it as something of a basic necessity. They more costly there. Therefore. I have sug- say "No. Opening a branch office is sufficient gested and written to the Pay Commission but, upgrading is not abasicfacility"whereas also, met the members and submitted a the quality of service is much better and for memorandum that this criterion for giving hill a longer period and is of a higher order and allowance sh

areas get very low priority. Industrial area savings from the household side, from the gets high priority. Project-orianted Raflway private corporation and public sector and all lives gets very high priority. If the idea is to this comes to about 21 % of the GOP of these attract more money to the areas which are sectors. But the small saving collection industrially developed, which are metropoli- agencies are post offices. You are giving tan towns, which are hub of industry and very poor treatment to these post Offices business and commerce, then the hill area is which are collecting the savings. I would ask gone. The desert area is gons. The balanced you to compare the cost of canection of Rs. development is gone. The concept of re- 1 ,000/- by a Post Office and the cost of gional development is over. But, I am told collection of the same Rs. 1,0001- by a bank. that is not the aim of the Government and the What are you spending on collecting one Government would realise the need to wake rupee from income -tax? What are you spend- up and also yoke each one of the Central ing on colleding one rupee from the post departments tothis primary task of removing office? What are you spending on collecting regional imbalances and giving due justice one rupee from other agencies like the banks to the hill areas and hill States which are etc.? If you compare this, then you will see covered under one special type of classifica- that the poS( office are not getting enough tion called the "special category States". remuneration or agency remuneration, whatever you may call them. So, they de- Himachal Pradesh is the State which serve a better deal. Therefore, I plead for .has been linked with Punjab. Part of it was in some kind of a relief to them also. The point PlJnjab. Our Chief Minister has been plead- is that the Commission should be increased ing for a special allocation of about Rs. 80 and they should be given greater control. crores because this is a burden which we have to carry over from Punjab. Whenever Similarly, there is another side of the the Punjab Government releases its pay case. Your Income-tax officers are working scales, the burden is automatically thrown hard. But that commitment has been vanish- upon the shoulders of Himachal Govern- ing now. That is disappearing because you ment. The Himachal Govemment has no are not providing them the basic infrastruc- say. Our Legislative Assembly has no say. ture. A cursory visit by you without announc- Our people do not have any say. Whatever Ing your programme to the private salary the employees in Punjab get, automatically circle collection of the ITOs in Mayur Bhavan it comes down to the employees of Himachal would show you the inhuman condition under Pradesh and Himachal Pradesh has to bear which they have to work. Two or three offi- this burden. So, our Chief Minister has been cers are clubbed together in one room. pleading with you and he has met you per- Nobody can even listen to the telephone. sonally and has said that this relief should be About five officers are having one phone with given to us. All the MPs from Himachal the result that the seriousness is disappear- Pradesh have pleaded again and again. ing. Thoy are also taking the business as a They have met the Prime Minister also and routine matter. There was a time when the made this request. I hope that today at least Income-tax Officer knew what was happen- when the Finance Bill would be passed by ing in this area in the circle allotted to him, in this House, you would allow this small pit- the division allotted to him. But now all those tance to Himachal Pradesh so that the State seriousness is gone. I would plead with you does not suffer, for a fault not of its own that you should give better amenities to making but for a link that is of historic nature. them; look into their service condit;ons and look into their infrastructure, basic facilities. For your information. I would say that the I would like to point out one or two more persons who are collecting money for you. if things which are of immediate relevance. they do not receive any kind of encourage- Small savings is one sector where you have ment from you, any facilities from you, then done well. At the moment, you have small who else will receive it? 455 Finance Bill. 1989 MAY 2.1989 Finance Bill. 1989 456

[Prof. Narain Chand Parashar] the demands for grants of ~he Ministry of Defence. Therefore, this point has to be 14.27 hrs. highlighted. The High level Committee had recommended one-rank one-pension. I would [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the request the hon. Minister to consider it Chair] sympathetically and set up a Parliamentary Committee to see that all these concessions I would very much like to deal with you are availed of rightly and there is proper class of people and one such class is the a~­ scrutiny. Servicemen. I find myself in full agreement with Shri K.P. Singh Deo when he was My second request to the hon. Minister saying about the High Powered Committee is to kindly pers'Jadethe States to implement of which he was the Chairman and I was also what is called the Chattopadhyaya Commis- a Member. It gave its report. It was irony of sion Report regarding grades and aJso the fate that the Comm~ttee presided over by a UGC scales. In this country, when you Minister of State of the Government of India adopted the National Policy on Education should submit a report and it should be with such fanfare and when the Constitution subjected to scrutiny by the officers and the was amended, when the Education became officers say now that this is possible and this a Concurrent Subject, the teachers expected is not possible. We are cutting a very sorry that at least the Central Government will be figure to see that the very persons who are in discharging the primary duty of ensuring charge of the Department. when they are uniformity in emoluments and grades all shifted to the other Departments, they reject over the country and pay to them whatever their own recommendations. I do not war.t to they are lacking now and that all other uni- say many things on this point. I would like to formities can wait. But at least teachers of say one thing. We have to take the larger Andhra Pradesh and Himachal Pradesh and picture into account. The case of the ex- teachers of Assam and Nagaland. Manipur Servicemen for a better deal is there for all to and U. P. should be able to have a similar pay see. This is one potential and one area which and similar status. So, these two categories- you should exploit it to your advantage. They the teachers and ex-Serviceman-who de- are a disciplined force, a force dedicated to serve a better deal from you. They expect the case of our nation. So. one-rank one- sympathy from you. You have given many pension is a longstanding demand. It is not concessions and I admire you. I want to correct to say that this will be projected by all thank you personally because when I re- the Government officers, Government func- ferred to you the case of opening new post- tionaries throughout the country belonging offices, which the han. Prime Minister had to State service. public sector units and the sanctioned out of his own initiative for the Central Government. It is not so. There. the two years of the Seventh Plan i.e. 6000 ·post service conditions are different. Here, the offices, the file got stuck in your Ministry and service conditions are quite different. So, you personally took the initiative and cleared taking into consideration the risk and the that file. I would like to say that a case of a hazards involved in the army service, you RMS division has been referred to you by the may consider this possibility and try to utilise Minister of Communications. He has written the opportunity. The point that it is in the a personal letter to you regarding the special Supreme Court doesn't cut much ice be- division for Himachal Pradesh. I hope you cause there are many points under'consid- will approve that division. Further, you know eration Supreme Court on which the Gov- half of the portion of Himachal Pradesh is ernment of India takes decision. If the Gov- under Punjab and the other half is under ernment has the will and the initiative, then it Haryana at the moment for mail sorting ar- can take a decision. It is for the hon. Minister rangements. If this H.P. division comes up. to decide. I am highlighting this point be- the whole of Himachal Pradesh will be one cause this time there was no discussion on unit. Therefore, we want that the Hill State 457 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) FinancfI Bill, 1989 458 should not be left to the mercy of those people to educate their children. They en- States from which they parted earlier. And gaged their children in collecting fuel or they are not left to the whims of those very grazing cattle. The Government of Orissa people who think that there are areas which has started 1200 hostels, one in every Pan- should be re-claimed and brought to their chayat, to provide boarding and lodging own territory. The hilly people deserve a facilities. They have completed it in almost better deal. And with you as the Finance all the Panchayats. But the expenditure for Minister, we expect that Himachal Pradesh this boaraing and lodging facility would be specifically and all other hill State genoraily enormous and the State Government is would get their due share. unable to meet this expenditure. I hope, the Finance Minister through the Welfare Minis- With these words, I once again thank try, will assist the State Government to pro- you forgiving a new orientation tothe Budget. ceed with their proposal. You have worked hard. There is no doubt about it. I support the Finance Bill with all the The Government of India, through the reliefs that you have given and with all the Welfare Ministry, have offered an incentive suggestions that I have rnade. allowance to the poor peC'ple who are living below the poverty line specially in Rajasthan SHAI K. PAADHANI (Nowrangpur): Mr. where the literacy percentage of girls is very Deputy speaker, Sir, I rise to support the low. They say, the Iiteracy percentage is only Finance Bill moved by our Finance Minister two. But it should be not limited to Rajasthan for the year 1989-90. I support, this Bill be- alone as the same is the situation throughout cause this is a popular and pro-poor Budget the country especially in tribal areas. You with a minimum deficit from that of the last may be surprised to hear that literacy per- year. centage in tribal areas for girrs .is less than five and for boys it is ten. This scheme of Our Prime Minister on 27.4.1989 incentivestothe parents should be filxtended launched a scheme the Jawahar Aozgar to all the tribal areas where the literacy Yojna. This is a step further to eliminate the percentage is too low. poverty in addition to the existing. anti-pov- erty programmes like the IRDP, ITDA etc. I now come to the upgradation of ad- This will engage one member of each poor ministration in tribal areas. The Eighth Fi- fanily living below the poverty line to the tune nance Commission awarded As. 30 crores of 40 lakh persons throughout the country. as compensatory allowance to the employ- This will be entrusted to the Gram Pan- ees amployed in the tribal areas. This allow- chayats who will plan out and implement the ance-instead of giving them incentives- scheme properly and steadily. has proved a disincentive because in the report they have mentioned that they could With this, school buildings, roads and not get the proper statistics of employees official buildings for the peeple employed in who were working there. That. is why, they tribal areas will be constructed. According to could not give proper allotment. This allot- the statistics given by the Education Minis- ment was too meagre to be distributed among try, 13.5 per cent primary schools have no the employees serving in the tribal areas. It buildings and four per cent of upper primary was distributed 10 only a few persons. Many schools have also not buildings throughout people were displeased because they could the country. In the tribal areas, the position is not get this money. If they want to implement quite different. Twenty to thirty per cent of this scheme properly, allotment should be primary schools h~ve\ no building of their given properly to the employees. in a proper own. They sit under a tree or in an open way and according to the rates prevailing public place and the teaching goes on. That there. I along with some other MPs met the is why, education in tribal areas is very poor. 9th Finance Commission and submitted a In tribal areas, poverty prevent these tribal memorandum. We have also given the 459 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bin, 1989 460

(Sh. K. Pradhani] Oandakaranya Project in my constituency. It was started about fifteen years back at a cost memorandum to the State Government to of As. 16 crores . But the implementation and subm it a list of employees working in tribal the execution of this irrigation project has areas so that it will enable them to prepare a been so slow that it could not be completed list and give proper allotm entfor these people. and it is left half done. The irrigation project is complete; but the canal work is incom- I rome to the banking system. In tribal plete. To some extent they have done it; but areas the banking people are charging now they have again estimated it to cost As. compound interest for all the anti-poverty 83 crores. CWPC has estimated it as As. 83 program mes, as is done elsewhere. Many crores. It started from As. 16 crores, it has people are unable to repay the loan. They crossed that amount and gone upto As. 83 are being harassed to repay the loan. They crores. Due· to the delay in implementation are taking some drastic action. I would and execution of this project the cost has suggest to the Hon. Minister that specially in gone up high. I draw the attention of the the tribal and scheduled caste areas there Han. Finance Ministerto release money early should be simple interest instead of com- so that the projed can be completed easily pound interest so that they can easily repay and the tribal people can be benefited. the loan and are not subjected to harass- ment. Drinking water is scarce in every part of the country and everyday we find in the In tribaJ areas there are TDCCs for newspapers that there is scarcity of drinking collection of minor forest and agricultural water in every place. The level of ground produce. They have being guided by the water has gone down and the cost of tube Government of India. The State Govern- well has gone up. That is why the State ment assist them. TRIFED is a tribal devel- Government are unable to meet the drinking . opment cooperative federation which has water demands. Unless the Government of been constituted by the Government of India India cames to the· rescue of the' _ tade through the Welfare Ministry. It is going to Governments, it is not possiIJle on the part of help the branches of TDCC in every State to the State Governments to meet the problem procure ad give remunerative price for the of drinking water. forest produce and agricultural produce to the tdbal people and market them within or I hope our Hon. Finance Minister would outside the country. look into these things and give more money.

Madhu Flower is an item which is widely collected by the tribal people. It is a very SHRI NITYANANDA MISRA (80Iangir): important item. They get money during the Sir, I thank the han. Finance Minister for spiring season for their cloth and food. Last announcing some concessions which have year it so happened that many people dis- been very warmly welcomed by the people. tilled liquor out of it and the Government of Orissa refused to give licences to any private After the devastating drought, the eco- individual to purchase it. They authoriserl 'lomical recovery last year, specially in the the TOCC to purchase the Mahua Flower agricultural sector has been remarkable. The and send it outside the district to avoid the economic growth has also been impressive. illicit distillation. The TDCC could not do it Still there are certain areas which need our due.to constraint of resources. I urge upon special attention. the Finance Ministerto provide proper assi&- tance to the TRIFED and TDCCs in every The problem of unemployment has State. assured very serious proportions. There are millions of youths without employment, with- There is an irrigation project started by out any job, who are experiencing a sense of 461 Finance BiOll 1989 VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA)· Finance Bil" 1989 462 economic insecurity, despair and frustra- nated against and that they have been de- tion. This may lead to social and. political prived of an equal share in the development tension and unrest. Therefore the Govern- and prosperity. This feeling has created an ment should pay adequate attention and intense regional feeling and sustained . devise ways and means to provide employ- emotional estrangement which aredetrimen- ment to these millions of unemployed youths. tal to national unity a~d integrity. Therefore the Government should devise ways and Irrigation can playa very vital and cru- means and implement programm~ for the cial role in providing employment. When all round economic development of the irrigation is extended to a piece of land, it backward and undeveloped areas of our grows three crops instead of one, the volume country. of agricultural operation also increa~s three- fold and the employment provided also in- Some of the hon. Members have sug- creases there times. Therefore if sufficient gested that the exemption limit of Income amount of weightage and priority is given to Tax should be raised to As. 25000 because irrigation it can solve the problem of unem- inflation has eroded the value of money. ployment, specially in the rural areas sub- There is some justification in this argument. stantially. The educated unemployed clam- Government should consider the possibility our for Government jobs and services. They of linking the exemption limit to the price have not received any vocctional education index so that as the price increases the or skill or training. So it is difficult for them to ~xemption limit also goes up. stand on their own legs and seek self-em- ployment. It is high time the Central Govern- Our export performance has been ment along with the State Governments admirable but we have observed that im- should incorporate vocational education into ports also have gone up very very high thus the curriculum of the educational system. creating trade deficit of an alarming nature. Therefore. imports wherever they are avoid- Jawahar Rojgar Yojana which has been able should be curbed. We are importing placed before this August House three days some technologies from foreign countries back by our Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi will which are obsolete, out-dated and even go a long way ~n providing employment with abandoned in their own country. When we . special emphasis on women of the rural import such technologies we should be very India. It is in the fitness of things that most of judicious and careful. us felt that this employment programme should be named after Pandit Jawaharlal There are multi-nationalism and big Nehru. the architect of modern India. industrial houses who enjoy the advantage of she1tered and protected domestic market The factor which creates deep resent- in our country and get good margin of profit. ment and bitterness in the minds of the They should be tied down to some export people is regional disparity and imbalances commitment for the interest of the economy which are increasing. In our country there of the country. Some industrial houses pro- are areas which are highly und~veloped and duce goods and commodities which fetch backward, specially the mountain and hilly good prices in the market and the margin of areas where there is no fertile land or irriga- profit is also substantial. They are keen to tion facilities for the improvement of agricul- generate black-money for their own advan- ture, where there is no communication and tage. They should invest all their resources infra-structure facilities for industrial devel- to upgrade the te~nology and to produce opment. This has inhabited by scheduled goods and commodities at international castes, scheduled tribes and backward competitive prices so that our exports can classes who have less of education. These pick up. We have observed that the cost of areas need special attention. These people administration has become 8xhorbitantly high have a feeling that they have been discrimi- and the efficiency and the functioning of the 463 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2.1989 Finance Bill, 1989 464

(Sh. Nityananda Misra] pre-independence days. The country has made maximum progress whether it is the administration has deteriorated over the case of education, construction of road~ and years. bridges or generation df power. there has been progress in Avery field during these 40 Our developmental programmes are years. Fourty years ago the condition of very sound and they are also welcome. agriculture was such that foodgrains were There is sufficient amount of finance for the ir produced only when there were rains. I have implementation but we have observed that also seen many a time when the country the implementation is haH-hearted and tardy. experienced famine. Lakhs of people died of Therefore, steps should be taken to stream- starvation for want foodgrains. But now the line the administration, to reduce the cost of situation has reversed. The central as well administration and to eliminate the wasteful as the State Governments executed a expenditure wherever it is clear visible. number of irrigation projects and constructed several dams and canals. This has resulted We have observed that the foreign debt In large c;cale production of foodgrains in the position has become very serious It is country. Not only that. now the country is mounting very high and the foreign loan that able to make export of foodgrains abroad. we get is utilised for debt servicing. We The farmers as weI! as the scientists deserve should reduce the heavy burden of the for- our congratulations for this. eign debt and take steps in that direction. Sir, the country has also made tremen- We find that whatever industrial activity dous progress in power generation. There we have in our country centres round goods was a time when power was I ,at at aI' gener- and commodities which are produced to ated in the country t but now during these 40 cater to the needs of the middle class, upper years power in large quanty is being gener- middle class and the rich. When most of our ated in the country. There is power in the countrymen are living in abject poverty; when cities. At the same time power connection for they are denied the basic and fundamental one bulb is also being given to poor people's needs of subsistence and whey they are huts. Due to availability of power in the condemned to sub-standard living at that country large number of industries have time the resources of the nation should not been set up and tube wells have been in- be invested to cater to the needs of the stalled in agriculture fiqlds. We have been affluent section of the society. able to produce large quantity of foodgrains with the help of power. Therefore, the Government should see that first of all the basic and primary needs of Sir, prior to 40 years we have seen that the poorer sections are fulfilled. The needs there were no means of communication in of the more privileged class can be taken the country. There were no bridges on rivers consid~red. and there were no roads also and whatever were there were Kuchcha. During these 40 With these words 1support the Finance years the Central Government provided a Bill. numberof facilities in transportation. I would like to congratulate the Central Government [ Translation] for this. Our country became independent due to our Venerable Bapu, Mahatma SHRI KAMODILAL JATAV (Morena): Gandhi, hen. Tilak, Hon. Chandra Shekhar Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. I express my thanks Azad who became Martyrs for the freedom to you for providing me time to speak. At the of the country. Had we not become inde- some time I support and welcome the Fi-- pendent and had the Britishers been con- nanca Bill that has been presented by the tinuing here, it would not have been possible hon. Minister of Finance. I have seen the to make so much of progress. For the prog- 465 Finance Bill, 1989 VAfSAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Finance SRI, 1989 466 rass taking place in the country, I would like I want that the hon. Minister of Finance to express my gratitude to Pandit Jawaharlal should ask the Government of Madhya Nehru, Shastriji and 1ndiraji who sacrificed Pradesh to immediately oonstruct raft bridges their lives for the country's' sake. Today our on small rivers. country is making progress under the lead- ership of our young Prime Minister, Shri Considerable land area in the Chambal RaJiv Gandhi. He deserves our congratula- Division in lying barrEin. In no other part in tions for this. India such a large area is lying barren. I would like to submit to the hon. Ministe( that

Sir J along with this, I would like to make if a paper mill is set up in the region, thou- S few submissions sMut my constituency sands of people in the area could be pro- and my State. I would like to inform the hon. vided employment. I would like to say further Minister of Finance that in terms of area, that there are 5 development blocks in my Madhya Prad\)sh is the most backw~rd state constituency. They are Kelaras, Pahargarh. in the country. I say this with confidence Sabalgarh, Vija~/pur and Karhal. There are because I have seen the whole country. large deposits of limestone in this area, but There are many areas in Madhya Pradesh tnere is no cement factory there. Limestones which consist of hilly areas. There are still are taken to Shivpuri and Bhind from this some areas in the State where there are no area and cement is made there. No cement facilities of transportation. Even now there factory has so far been set up in Morena. No are no provisions of water for farmers in Industrialist prefers to come here because many areas. The Chambal Division which onl} 10 per cent subsidy is available to this falls in my constituency is one of such areas. place as against 30 to 35 per cent subSidy in You must have heard the name of Chambal other places. H 30 to 35 per cent subsidy is Division. Chambal is notorious for the daco- given to this place also, industrialists can set i!s in the whole c,",untry. The Government is up cement factories in this area. t request the ignoring this region. There are a number of hon. Minister of Finance to take this point rivers on which there is no bridge. There is into a~unt. dacoit menance in this region. Sir, you might have heard that this r~gio" has produced So far as irrigation is concerned, water uncountable number of dacoit~ like Putii Bai, is supplied from Gandhi Sagar which hap- Man Singh and Pan ~ingh. Earlier a:50 I had penf to be situated at about 600 km away made a petition to this a"'9ust House for the from my constituency. A number of tributar- construction of abridge. But what happens·s ies like Kuwan, Parwati, Keono etc. flow that the requests made by big people are there and if the water of these tributaries is easily implemented, but requ6$ts made by put into the canal and lift irrigation f?cilities poor Harijanslike me are never implemented are provide then. milliOns of farmers may be even after repeated requests. I had made a benefitted. request to the han. Prime Minister for the constt uction of a bridge on Chaillbal river. If With these words I thank you for giving this bridge is constructed, between AfTlba- me an opportur ity to speak. Pcras tehsil, it will facilitate traffic mOV9- ments and curb dacoit nenance in the re- DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI gion. This will also fc-cilitate easy movement (Khalilabad): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise of police forces. to support the Finance Bill presented by the hon. Mini~ter in the Housp. The Budget I would also like to say that a large presented by him has ::Wen appreciated in all number of rivers flow in this region and in thE' the fields. Efforts have been made ~o gener- absence of bridge~ over these rivers. the} ate emt>loyment opportunities. Keeping in foodgrains of farmers don' reach in mandis. view the unemployment prOblem, the hon. Thirty rivers flow in my constituency but Minister has not imtJOssd ar.y tax on con- there are no raft bridge on a number of rivers. sU.Tler goods and that is a commendable 467 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill. 1989 468

[Dr. Chandra Shekhar TripathO tlie development of the country. step. Besides, the concessions given on For the last 5-7 years, about 16 districts television, plastic goods and various other in Uttar Pradesh have been facing starvation commodities are also welcome as all these conditions the weaver community in my commodities are of the utility of middle class constituency is facing starvation conditions. people. In the new Textile policy, 22 items hava been reserved which neither powerloom nor mills, I would also like to urge that Uttar can manufacture. Provision has also been Pradesh has been getting step motherly made to provide them loans at a low rate of treatment from the Government. I would like interest. A corporation has also been consti- to recite a urdu coupl9t to the hon. Minister of tuted and the Central Government has made Finance. . provisi(,ns to provide them grants. Arrange- ments have also been made to provide yarn 15.00 hr•• to them. All these measures are commend- able. But the factors· responsible fcr their As regards Industrial Development, Uttar poverty are that they could never get the Pradesh has never been able to get its full yam of the desired count. They demanded a share In act"'..ordance with the population and yarn of 32 counts and they were supplied the area of the state. No attentioil has been yarn of 42 counts. The Corporation pur- pain to the matter inspite of the repeated chased their cloth but did not make pay- demands made in this regard inside as well ments for 6 months. In view of such circum- as outside of the House. Sir, I do not intend stances, how can a poor man invest m9ney to make any allegation against you because and m3nufacture cloth. About 16 districts in we are facing a number of problems and the eastern Uttar Pradesh. having the popula- area of this state is also qUitA bi~ I remember t:O:1 of about 2 to 2.50 crores, reached the a couplet:- verge of starvation only because they could not get the nelJded yarn in time, their pay- If Tabibon se main kya poochun ilaje ment was delayed and they had to run from darde-dil apna, pillar to post for getting loans sanctioned Marz jab zindagi khud ho to phir uski from banks which resulted in heavy loss of dawa kya hai. working days as well as of money. The Government should make such arrange- The han. Minister of Finance is an intel- ments, so that poor people may get loans ligent and experienced man. We have great within 5-7 days of submitting their applica- expectations from him. I would I:ke to reierto tions. They should not be Made to run from 2-3 technical points. Government announce pillar to post time and again. exemptions from time to time whether it is income tax, excise duty or custom duty. But, -:-he other important issue is regarding the reality ;s that the benefits of these con- exemption in income tax. Due to the unre- cessions eto not reach the consumers. All the stricied inflation, and fast devatuation of bene.its go to the T:a1ers and manufactur- Rupee exemption upto income limit of As. ers. If survey is conducted in this regard, yC:J 1800/- has got no meaning. H the limit is not will find that an amount of As. 100/-crores on raised, it will encourage corruption and ..Jccount of excise duty is refunded to the generation of black mO!ley. As our econo- traders and manufactures every year as mists s.ay, the black money is a parallel amount paid in excess, though in reality, the economy in o .... r country. So, in orde. tocruch excise·duty is paid by the consumers. I would the increasing pressure of black money, the like to urge that this ~mount sbould not be Government should ir. ::reasa the limit from refunded to· these industrialists, rather a As. 1800~/- to 250001- or 30,0001- or so. separate fund should be raised with this money which shoutd ultimatety hQ utilised for My third request is that our economy is 469 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) FinatJC9 BiR, 1989 470 in shamble because of this black-money. It and agricultural implements. I would like to is, therefore, necessary that more and more urge upon the Government that thd farmers raids should be conducted to unearth it. Han. should be given special concessions on Minister, 1 have no hesitation in saying that agricultural implements beCause the finan- no section in India today is free from the cial position of the farmers is not good even clutches of black-money, whether he is a today. pan walla, a grocer, an official or a political leader. You conduct the raids and you will Jawahar'Rozgar Yojana is a very good find the hidden income there. n.is will dis- scheme. This scheme is likely to be imple- courage corruption and build up a national mented in certain selected districts of the character. These oorrupt people who have country. Thi$ scheme with certain minor accumulated huge sum of money byexploit- changes may be implemented all over the ing the poor people of the country should be country so that the whole of country may exposed. The Government should raid the avail its benefits. houses of such people and take stringent measures against them. If this black money In this context, I would like to submit two is unearthed and seized, the Government things about, my constituency, Khalilabad. may not have to impose new taxes and may We have many sugar factories and alcohol is get billions of rupees which will facilitate available in abunjance which is not being financing those projects which have not been properly utilised. Alcohol based industries taken up so far want to funds. can prove quite successful there, The Gov- ernment should consider this issue sed- I would like to make a request in regard ously. At the same time there is still much to drinking water supply. I woul1 like to scope for more sugar industries to be set up. congratulate the Governm&nt for the steps The Government ;s urged upon to pay atten- taken in this regard. But the list of prohlem tion in this regard also. villages in Uttar Pradesh prepared in 1972 has got no rT'eani'lg at present. A number of [English] villages have come up, population has in- creased and so the number of the houses. I SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI (Kalia- would urge upon the Government to revise OOr): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you this list and to take steps to provide drinkir.g very much for giving me an opportunity for facility in all the problem villages. pa.ticipa1ing in the Finance Bill.

I would like to give one more sugges- Sir, we are the representatives of the tion. The Government deserve congratula- paople. This is the House of the People. tions for giving subsidy on insecticides, fer- Every year the Members in the House r~ ise tilisers and making available different high very important matters pointing out thJ dete- yielding Varieties of seeds. But all these riorating cond:tions of the Government and measures prove futile when there ;s nobody also some impollant issues, including the to purchase the produce. When it is in abun- basic issues which are to be done by the dance. The Government should take meas- Government. This has been raised and ures to fix support price of the foodgrains continuously raised but the outcome is abso- which are produced in aLlundance to avoid a lut31y nil. The Government Rssures that they situ~tion that there is none to purchase wheat will took into the matter but it is found that at the rate of As. 101- per quintal when it is they don't do anything. Regar~ing develcp- produced in abundance. The farmer in our ment of the States, you will find that after 40 country I"las been a victim of such circum- year$ of independence, there are some tiny stances. I would urge upon the Government States which are Jagging behind in many that the farmer should get the remunerative resp')cts, So far as the development is con- price even when the production more. No cerned. There are 9"en States where they is concession has been given for the inputs no university; there are States whare !here if Fin!fncfI Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill, 1989 472

Constitution it is said that the Prime Minister [Sh. Bhadreswar TantQ knows the leaders of the Opposition better no industry. It should not be the case that than he does his own wife. But in our country, only big and powerful States are looked it is quite the reverse. I do not find any reason after, and that the small States neglected. for it.

Government had arrived at some Ac- Poverty alleviation scheme!.; are there. cords, like the Mizoram, Punjab and Assam But people at the grassroots level are not accords. These accords remain as scraps of benefited thereby. Disparity in Government paper. We have seen no implementation. employment is there. In the services, such Nothing has been done regaiding their im- people are found in the lowest category, plementation. Why don't you look into these where they get hardly Rs. 500 or Rs. 1.000 matters and implement these accords? per month. But such people are also affected by increase in cost of living, i.e. as far as Before the elections, Government, par- prices are concerned; for example, potato, ticularlythe Prime Minister goes tothe States rice and other items are sold at t"'e same and make promises like the one about Kar- rates both for the lAS and Class IV employ- nal refinery. He laid !he foundation for it ees. So, this disparity should be removed. before the Haryana election was held. Why Only then people will have some hope, and has the refinery not come up? What about get benefit. the promises made to the people of Tamil Nadu, just befor~ the elections? What is their We have regional imbalance also. This outcome? Why hav9 promises no! been should be corrected. All tho regjons should implementod till now? develop equally.

What about the Assam accord? Under There are some issues before the gov- that accord, you are bound to implement ernment now, like the Bodo problem and the promises relating to projects relating to refin- Ram Jannmabhoomi and Baleri Masjidis- ery, gas, paper mills and others. But nothing sue. Who are benefited by these problems. ? has been done about them even aftar a There are also some inter-State border dis- lapse of fiva year~. Shoold we raise these putas in the country which should be imme- matters time and against? This means that diately solvtld by the intervention of the our exercise becomes a meaningless one. Central Government. Now the question is who are benefited by these burning issues? This is very important: you must do positive things for the people of this country. H is the political parties ~hjch are bene- There are States like Arunachal Pradesh, fited, not the people. They want these issues Mizoraln, Nagaland, "4anipur and Megha- to be alive. You see that these issues are 'aya. How many public sedor industries have im mediately solved sp that people will be yc,u been able to set up there? No ind\Jstri~s happy. You depend on them. are there. No oommunic3tion facilities are there. When floods occur in Assam. nobody Recently, on the Nagaland border, 30 is there to look into that problem. People, innocent persons have been killed. All the standing crops, dwelling houses and proper- houses have been set on fire and gutted and tic~ are lost. You do not go to the rescue of you have not come forward to arrest those the pqople. Whdt is :he mea"i~g of democ- people who have done th!s act. They are the rar;y tller.? Wi1en -Ne, particularly the UjJP~­ citizens of India. This is the test of the free- ~Itlon leaders say som'=tthl~g, you always dom of the poor people in the country. doubt us. The laws which you have passed in You are initiating the British sys~9m of Parhamenl should be implemented. In As- parliamentary democracy. Under the British sam there are about 800 tea estatos. A 473 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12.1911 (SAKA) Finance BII/, 1989 474

labourer is getting Rs. 12-15 per day there. people should be materialised; you make Can a man survive with his family of 3/4 promises before the elections in the country persons on As. 12-15 per day? Whereas the in the interest of the people so that people Manager of a tea garden gets as pay and get benefit, but Immediately after the eJec- allowance, apart from other perquisites, more tions are over, you forget everything. You than Rs. 5000/-. You see this disparity. These must see that all those promises are materi- workers are earning foreign exchange for alised which were made before the Haryana the country and building this nation. What is election, before the Assam election and your policy towards those people? What is before the Tamilnadu election. After the your policy towards the industrial workers? elections you keep silent. You go on passing laws in the Parliament. But you are keeping silent on their imple- The policy of removing poverty, unity mentation. These laws have been made and integrity, should not remain on paper only for the purpose of those persons or alone; it should not also be discussed in the those industrialists who very early violate public meetings alone. You see that this is these laws and are not interested not for the properly implemented. These things have implementation of these laws. A labourer become mere slogans and nothing else. working in a tea garden is getting Rs. 12115 per day. How will he be able to send his So far as Government employees are children to the school? How will you expect concerned. there should not be much dis- him to become a good citizen of this country? parity in their salary; there should be a limit. What is your commitment towards him? You One person is working for eight hours a day do not have any commitment to the persons is getting Rs. 10001- per month; whereas who are earning foreign exchange for this another person working for eight hours a day country. Out of 55 lakh Tea and Ex-tea is getting Rs. 80001- per month. He is also worker in my State, there are hardly 100 purchasing the commodities from the mar- Graduates, five doctors, ten engineers and ket at the same price as the class I employee five Professors. This is a percentage of is buying. How will be look after his family? education' out of 55 lakh people in Assam, How can he work for the country? This must who are earning foreign exchange for this be avoided and there should he some rea- country. These industrial houses go on vio- sonable disparity in pay and allowances in all lating the Plantation Labour Act and the rules categories. (Interruptions) Some standard made thereunder. These have never been should be maintained. Asl have explained. implemented properly. Under these rules, expenditure is incurred by the Government they are to be provided with houses; they are in season and out of season for their public to be provided with hospitals; they are also to purposes. This should be curbed. Our coun- be provided with drinking water and other try is very poor. Thirty per cent of people live facilities. But, absolutely, there is nothing below the poverty line. The Government except a few Tea Gardens. So, you must do should not allow the money to be spent on something positive for those workers. luxuries, that somebody is riding on the horse and is living like a prince while some Last lime, the number for amendment others are living below the poverty line. and passing in this House of the Plantation Labour Ad. was 16 in the list. But in this When natural calamities like flood, Session, it has not rome for amendment and drought and cyclone take place the Govern- passing in this House. So, I would suggest ment should immediately come forward and that the hone Minister should see that it is see that the people are properly rescued and immediately amended and properly imple- rehabilitated. In 1983 about 1,0000 people mented in Tea Estates in Assam. were killed in a holocaust in Assam and the money which the Government had sanc- The promises made before the elec- tioned was about Rs. 438 crore. All the tions in the country in the interest of the money was eaten up by the Custodian of the 475 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance SHI, 1989 476

[Sh. Bhadreswar Tanti] India also. govt at that time. It was not spent on relief and rehabilitation at that time by the Govern- Our own friends have been asking for ment. And this year also the money which increasing or for raising the exemption limit has been sanctioned for relief and rehabilita- of income-tax. " is all very reasonable. tion of the flood affected people of Assam is Inadequate. So I request the Hon. Ministerto The prices are rising, inflation is grow- allot adequate funds for the flood affected ing, money value is coming down, with the people of Assam for their relief and rehabili- result that the people who were having some tation programme. surplus after they paid their taxes upto the exemption limit of Rs. 5000 at one time, Rs. PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): Mr. 10000 at another time; find themselves very Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I wish to lay stress on much hurt because the exemption limit has two or three points only because this is a not been increased. They are asking for all debate where the whole gamut of Govern- these things. Where from are we going to get ment and governance of the country are the money? And that is where all these being revieWed. At one time we used to think people who were helping the rich people to that the Finance Minister would be able to evade payment of taxation, come to play pay special attention to all the criticisms that their own role. And whatever they help the we make, suggestions that we offer and people not to pay to the Government is being then perform his duty as a watchdog of the considered as black money, although it is government over the activities of all the also hard earned money. It is not the money Ministries, and so on, since he was sup- that has been stolen from anybody's house, posed to be in charge of raising funds and but it is the money which is not being paid to getting them together, seeing to it that every the Government according to the laws of the paisa was put to use very very economically land, laws and taxation. and so on. There- and effectively. We used to make all those fore, there is a limit, beyond which people suggestions as we have been making here cannot be taxed, as things stand, either by over the whole sphere of Government. But the Government of India or by the State things have changed. Governments. And that is where the point comes. . He is today only one of the many MiniS- ters. All the Ministers are subjected to the Where from are we going to get the control or overall control or supervision or resources? You can get the resources, if you guidance or mere an overlook of the Plan- put all the labour that is being wasted today. ning Commission. The Planning Commis- Is it not going waste? Millions and millions of sion deals with these Ministers one by one, people are unemployed. They are willing to sometimes by groups by groups and after- work. but they are not being employed by wards the money is being allotted. "We can anybody. The question is, how can they be see now more from the tenor of the debate in employed and through whom? Some people this House in the Budget as well as the say, that through millionaires and some others Finance Bill thatthe lim its have been reached say, through the Government directly. But for raising any more money through taxa- then. it is not being done. They can be helped tion. through this Government and also from to employ themselves through their own the State Governments. The State Govern- resolutions and throughtheirown decisions- ments are not willing to raise any money decisions in favour of what?; resolutions for through taxes either because they are afraid what purpose? In order to provide them of the public opinion or because they do services with any number of social utilities sincerely feel that the people cannot bear which are not available today; collective utili- any more t8.(es on the lines and in a manner ties like roads, houses, school buildings, In which they are empowered to levy taxes. bridges, culverts, tanks, small irrigation proj- Same is the case with this Govemment of ects, etc. 477 Finance Bil" 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 478

Once a village in England was washed people began to cry against their own pov- away because of a disaster. It was calcu- erty. They were becoming politically con- lated that the total net social wealth that the scious. Not that there was no poverty here in village had before that disaster, was worth this country. Indeed after swaraj we have more than one hundred million pounds be- been able to reduce the impact of poverty in cause the village was connected with the our country. There is no doubt whatsoever rest of England by roads, culverts, and vari- about it. But the poverty that they had to ous other social amenities. They are not suffer from, the unemployment to which they available today in our country. They have got were condemned, became more and more to be constructed; they have got to be pro- unbearable because of the rising tempo of vided to the people. Who is going to do it? social consciousness and political conscious- Our people expected that the State Govern- . ness. At was at that stage that Indira Gandhi ments would raise money in order to help inaugurated the scheme of 'Garibi Hatao'. A these people to do these things. But they number of our people in the opposition at could not do it. Many of us suggested that that time said that this was only a gimmicks, there should be Panchayats in every village an election stunt. But by now, it has become and they should be empowered to raise a national programme. In between Janata funds locally for local purposes with the Party came to power. For three years, they cooperation of the local people. But then rao the show. They had the opportunity of Panchayats were not given so much of implementing the programmes of the leader encouragement. by whom they began to swear just as pas- sionately as we have been swearing by At the time of the Constituent Assembly, Mahatma Gandhi. Jawaharlal Nehru and the a number of us including myself, pleaded for rest ofthem. But were they able to succeed? another tier of governance, Le. Panchayat They did not. Was it an election stunt. It was governance. With great difficulty, we were not. But they were simply not very keen on it. able to get it included as one of the items in Later on, we have become more and more the directive principles. The Central Govern- keen. Then Maharashtra took the lead. Then ment and the State Govern ments at the most they instituted the programme of providing were prepared to go right upto the District work, full employment for at least one adult Board, but they would not like to go beyond person in every family-full employment in that. Could these three tiers of governance the sense including the number of days on be enough to raise necessary funds and which they themselves find employment provide all social amenities. We did not fund through their own self-employment either in it possible. Therefore, a little later, my good agriculture or in various arts and crafts, old friend Shri Jaiprakash Narayan, a social- handloom weaving. pottery and the rest of it ist, thought of the Panchayati Raj and he and for those days for which they could not wanted to develop that. He created as at- find employment. According to the register mosphere within the socialist party in favour that they would be keeping, the village pan- of Panchayati Raj. Jawaharlal Nehru who chayat would be able to say that so and so is saw centuries ahead and there face, tried to entitled for 100 days of employment be~ initiative the Panchayati Raj system. And cause he remained unemployed for 100 they organised it in Rajasthan to start with days and, therefore, he should be provided and then in Gujarat and Andhra also. We necessary maintenance. They instituted it. already had it in Madras. Therefore, we But they could not make much success. further developed it. But it did not make much progress. In the meanwhile, people Nevertheless, the scheme was there. began to demand more and more facilities We took it up. Fortunately for us, the present for social amenities. Government has taken up that respQnsibility of providing employment in some such And also the need arose for more and manner not only for one State but for the more employment. Millions and millions of whole of India. they wished to name it after 479 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2,1989 Finance Bill, 1989 480

{Prof. N.G. Ranga] people who are employed in our villages in various arts and crafts headed by the hand- Jawaharlal Nehru. I am all in favour of it loom weavers themselves. They have to be dedicating the scheme to Jawaharlal Nehru. given priority. This is whatthe Prime Minister But at the same time, we must also be has now begun to divert the attention of the prepared to examine how it is to be done, nation to. La and behold, here comes criti- how it can be done. Our friend has just now cism from one of the Opposition leaders said that you go the wrong way. There are saying it is only an election stunt. The same millions of hand loom weavers who are un- charge was made when 'garibi hatao, pro- employed. Some of them are even starving. gramme was there which Indira Ji inaugu- Some died out of starvation the other day. rated in 1971. Now all the parties have And yet we go the wrong way of encouraging accepted the 'garibi hatao' programme. So powertooms and then increasing their so- far as unorganised labour is concerned, I called scientific efficiency and create condi- have been pleading for them for almost three tions for more and more unemployment generations, sixty years, and now at long among the hand loom weavers. Therefore, last, from the high pedestal of the Prime thought has got to be given as to how to Ministership of India, attention is being con- reconcile these growing demands of our centrated on the plight of these people, on nation. One is employment for all those their demands, their needs and the manner people who are already self-employed and in which they can be made use of. also the scientific upgradation of our own large scale industries where smaller number In Japan, the workers go on working of people are employed producing so much and the continental labour leaders are won- wealth which is needed, nevertheless, they dering why Japanese workers do not go on have got to be controlled. Now who is to do more and more holidays so that there will be it? Finance Minister or the Textile Minister? less and less production in Japan, with the These are the things which have got to be result that there will be less competition from reconciled some way or the other with the Japanese goods and services against the cooperation of the Ministers but at the level European goods and services. That means of planning. The next five-year plan is going that more and more Japanese workers are to be made. But who is going to do it? producing more and more goods which again Therefore, at that stage, serious thought has creates more and more competition for the got to be given and the thoughts that we are European producers and so on. So, they placing here from all sides of the House, want the Japanese workers to go slow. We have got to be properly weighed and then co- want the tens of crores of our unorganised related. labour to come to be employed so that we can produce more and more social wealth, Then, Sir, I wish to congratulate the and that is exactly the slogan today that the Prime Minister on the latest declaration he Prime Minister is placing before the country has made. In a very brave manner, he has and I give him all praise for it. But how is it to tried to pay special attention to the needs be done? I started in the beginning saying and the demands of the unorganised labour. that there were only three tiers. Now there is Till now we have paid adequate attention to a fourth one. Jai Prakash Narayan started organised labour. We have tried to give them his movement in Bihar although he was not sufficient protection too. There are those very successful. Now the present Govern- who have not succeeded. As our friend from ment wants to make it a success. The pres- Assam has just now said, in regard to plan- ent Government may not be able to succeed tation labour they have passed laws but they within the gamut of one year but certainly it have not been able to implement them be- is a kind of a chal1enge to the Opposition cause of their inefficient ways of doing things. also, to all parties in this county. Let them Now, what do we mean by unorganised also say, yes, we want this Panchayati Raj. labour? Unorganised labour means all those we want more and more power to be given to 481 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 482

Panchayats so that they would be able to you give them some certain responsibilities raise, not taxes, not corvee, but contribu- and then certain responsibilities with the tions from every one. What happens then? District Boards. then if you cometo the State, Suppose there is a tank. It has got to be it would be easier to administer. It is an expanded, it has got to be improved. There- experiment, it is an experience which has got fore, so much money is needed, money in to be faced with and as a kind of challenge terms of labour, money in terms of carts and from the national point of view. That is where other kinds of services. How would they get the Prime Minister has taken this courage it? Now the agricultural workers want unem- with both his hands. All that they say is that ployment insurance for hundred days of it is an election stunt. All right. But then we unemployment. For ten days' contribution, are going to the people and let the people they would be paid for the next ninety days. decide them. We are going to pass a law to That means, with the minimum wage level of amend the Constitution. Thereafter, if the Rs. 10-15 per worker, it will be Rs. 100 per people do not want it, they will throw this part workers. Then the rich people, the well-to-do outy. If on the other hand, the people want it, people, all those who are above the poverty then your State Governments themselves line. would not like to go and work. Manual are powerless we would have to be satisfied work is not yet fashionable enough. In spite in saying that the District Boards are also of all the campaigns, that we have been playing as honourable a role, as important a carrying on during the days of Mahatma role in the national development of our coun- Gandhi and afterwards also, it is still unpopu- try, as a State Government. Today. there is lar. Therefore, they do not want to go and between states and Central Government, work with their spades. All right, let them pay jealousy, Ohl Sarkaria Commission is there for 10 days, some Rs. 200 or Rs. 100. and all kinds of complaints are there. Why? Because they are themselves helpless and Each person who is unwilling to handle you want to supplement their capacity by the spade will have to pay money and that raising the power of the village Panchayat money would be paid to the unemployed and then the District Panchayats. With these people, unemployed people coming to be two supports on which you can develop the employed and those who are rich, who are social reconstruction more effectively, I do prepared to pay for this kind of labour contri- not know why States should be jealous about bution. all this will be put together and it will Panchayats. The Prime Minister had day, he be the fund with which you would be able to paid a very good compliment to these friends construct or reconstruct keeping in good in the Com munist Party in West Bengal and condition or repair all these social wealth in they are supposed to be doing this work terms of houses for the poor, school build- much more satisfactorily. But the other State ings, roads, culverts and all the rest of them; Governments seems to be jealous of it. we can go on building. Now, that power has Therefore, here is a challenge and you have got to be given. To whom? Not to the district to come forward and accept these chal- boards alone, Zila Parishad as it is called, lengas. These are the two great challenges but also to the Village Panchayat. You start that the Prime Minister has placed before us. with the Village Panchayat; then come to the How is it to be completed? Not because he District Boards, then from there you reach is an experienced politician. Here is our upto the level of the State. Now, the States Finance Minister. He is a politician, he was are not able to raise any more taxes and yet the Chief Minister in Maharashtra and now they have got to make provisions for all he is the Finance Minister here. As Chief these. But then they are not able to imple- Minister there, hs wanted more and more ment their projects also. You plan for Rs. 10 from the Finance Minister here. from the crores; in 10 years time you are not able to government of India and then after having complete it. You are obliged to spent Rs. 30 come here. he finds there it is not enough to or Rs. 40 crores because of inflation. But if on be distributed. He is not able to raise the the other hand you start from the villages, funds, he is in the happy position of under- 483 Finance Bill. 1989 MAY 2.1989 Finance Bill, 1989 484

[Prof. N.G. Ranga] [ Translation]

SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA standing this problem from both sides. The (Motihari): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I wel- State Governments on that side and the come the Finance Bill that has been pre- Government of India here, have reached the sented by the hon. Minister of Finance in this tether and of their resources so far as the august House. There are many reasons for taxation and control of the black money are which I welcome the Bill. Concessions to the concerned. There is now in the shape of un- extent of Rs. 123 have been given in the used labour, unemployed labour of workers, Budget out of which Rs. 118.90 crores are in crores of them willing to work, crying for excise duty. Besides, concessions have also more and more work and and unable to work been given in respect of customs duty. just because there is nobody to provide the necessary leadership-you call it employ- 15.48 hr•. ment. it is leadership. to provide the neces- sary leadership. so that they can all be made [SHRI SHARAD DIGHE in the Chaiij to work in a constructive manner. I have had the honour, Sir. of having a large number of I would like to draw the attention of the workers working under my leadership, under hon. Minister of Finance to a problem. Most my supervision and my trainees. we organ- of the people who are poor and destitutes do ised out of 960 villages of . not get the benefits of these concessions. which is my own district. village panchayats Out of the concessions, the producers get in more than 700 villages. When the British more benefits and the consumers get less. were there, Swaraj had not yet come, we You should look into it. began to develop all the social wealth. We should be able to do it now in a larger way, There are several important aspects greater way, more effectively and more included in the Finance Bill as well as in the successfully also, if only we all put our heads Budget. The programmes for eradication of together. Therefore. for God's sake. mydear poverty and for providing employment op- friends in the Opposition, just as you all have portunities and laudable. The programme to come to accept our slogans of parity be- provide sarees free of cost to destitute women tween rural and urban people. parity be- is good. The announcement made by the tween agriculture and industries. parity be- hon. Prime Minister on 28th April about the tween urban workers and rural workers, so Jawahar Rozgar Yojana is commendable. also come and join us all in hailing these two The decision to reserve 30 per cent seats for leads that are given. You need not call them women in this scheme will enable the women after the name of Rajiv Gandhi or anybody. fold to become self-reliant and it will make but these are the two leads-one to look them capable of doing. afterthe unorganised labour. helpthem to be organised from the village upwards, the other Mr. Speaker, Sir, our country has forged one 10 develop themselves their own de- ahead after 40 years of independence, but mocracy, make it strong, strengthen its roots the hollowness of our financial policies is from the village upwards and let there be real proved by the fact that there are still such panchayati raj of Mahatma Gandhi's con- people. such women who are required to be ception and the fashion coming from Ma- given sarees because of their poverty. The hatma Gandhi. Jawaharlal Nehru. Jaiprakash Government should pay attention as to how Narain and so many of us of the earlier to improve our. financial system and generation. you come and join hands with strengthen our economy. As a matter of fact us. Let us march in step one with the other. our Government is making all our efforts in It is a competition here-you do your best this regard. A lot of work is being carried on and we do our best. Whoever will please the in this direction. The rate of inflation has people. will come back again here. declined. In 1987-88 the rate of inflation was 485 Finant» BiD, 1989 VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 486

10.6 per cent whereas in 1988-89 it has Government has set up a Housing Bank for come down to 6.7 per cent. Thereafter. in the poor and intend to do a lot through this January. 1989 it has further come down to 5 bank. It has been provided therein that a per cent. person who contributes at the rate ot Rs. 30 per month continuously for 5 years will be Sir. a student of economics is not per- given double the total amount he has depos- turbed in inflation. Inflation is necessary for ited, after the expiry of 5 years. In this con- stabilisation of prices. But continuous deficit nection I would like to say that even a small financing has become a matter of concern house cannot be constructed with As. 70,000. for us. Deficit of Rs. 337 crores is less than Then I am at a loss to understand as to how the figure of 1988-89. But after giving con- you are going to solve the housing problem cessions of Rs. 123 crores. the deficit will and provide a shelter with an amount of As. further increase. 7000 to As. 8000.

There is one more thing which the hon. You have provided a sum of Rs. 21 Minister of Finance should take care of. The billion of the Jawahar Rozgar Yojana and the industrialists have been given a lot of incen- Panchayats have been entrusted with the tives. The hone Minister has warned them in responsibility of its implementation. It is a their meeting that they are not promoting good thing. In Bihar 40 to 50 per cent people export. Where export has been 4 per cent, live below the poverty line. The Han. Prime the goods imported for these industries has Minister has said in his announcement that a been 19 per cent which was 17 per cent sum ranging from Rs. 80,000 to Rs. 1 lakh earlier. Besides providing employment op- will be spent on the Panchayats which have portunities and achieving success in indus- a population of 3000 to 4000 and there will be trial produdion. one more thing which has guarantee for providing employment to the become a matter of concern for us is that gap people for 50 to 100 days. It will provide between plan and non-plan expenditure goes employment to 30 per cent women. All con- on increasing. Our non-plan expenditure has cerned will be duly informed as to what jobs touched the mark of Rs. 54.0054,347 and we will be made available to them and what will are over burdened because of foreign debts. be their remunerations. It is an open and When a question about external debt was categorical announcement. I welcome this taken up in the House and Shri Faleiro was step. But I am doubtful as to howthis scheme replying to that question. I was listening to will become successful in Bihar where to no him with rapt attention. Howsoever polished 50 per cent people live below the poverty answers you may give, but I shall certainly line. The amount is too meagre. How will you say that we are overburdened by the foreign be able to provide employment to 30 per cent debt. One of its reasons is that your non-plan women and guarantee employment for 50 to expenditure is that of Rs. 54 thousand crores. 100 days. It will not be possible to solve this The main reason is that you pay Rs. 17,000 problem with this small amount. This scheme crores towards interest. Apart from that a cannot be successful in those States which sum of Rs. 7,000 crores is being spent on are backward and do not have any resources subsidy on foodgrains and promotion of and which face flood havoc every year. You export. In this manner it comes to Rs. 24,000 should launch at least this scheme in every crores on these two items. You should set district in Bihar. Please provide at least As. things right because financial discipline and 21akhsto each Panchayat, only then it will be solution to tha financial problems are the possible to achieve the target to some ex- main characteristics of the Budget, only then tent. it beoomes a balanced Budget, ideal Budget. The Budget presented by the han. I would like to draw you Attention to- Minister of Finance is based on social jus- wards a couple of problems. Our hon. Minis- tice. seH-sufficiency and modernisation and tar of Urban Development is sitting here. The it is a commendable Budget realising the 487 Finance Bi/I, 1989 MAY 2. 1989 Finance BiD, 1989 488

[Smt. Prabhawati Gupta] You may look at the Five Year Plans. I have got the figures with me. The assistance basic ideals of a planned economic develop- given from First Five Year Plan to Seventh ment. Five Year Plan is the lowest not only in the case of Bihar but also in the case of all While making a few more submission, I eastern States. The Government announced would like to say that there should be finan- that one hundred growth centres will be set cial discipline for efficient financial manage- up in the country but they have not been set ment without which the Budget is meaning- up so far. At least in Bihar, which was num- less. This time a funny thing took place. ber five on the list. these growth centres Discussions could be held in respect of a should be set up. couple of Ministries only and majority of the Members were unable to express their views. Bihar does not get remunerative price Either the hours of the House should be for minerals. Such step-motherly treatment increased to it should be so arranged that we should not be meted out this State. Bihar is are in a position to hold discussions on the such a State which played a significant role activities of each and every Ministry or on inthewarof independence. Secondly, freight their reports. In 1985 Shri H.K.l. Bhagat had equalisation should be done away with. If the said that a Budget Committee should beset prices in Bombay, Madras and Calcutta are up in respect of every Ministry for an effec- at par with those in Bihar, then why should tive oontrol over the Budget. If the Commit- the big industrialists set up industries in tee has not been constituted, it should be Bihar when they can get minerals in their constituted and efforts should be made to own State at a tow price? Thus how can ensure that discussion is held in respect of government's slogan of employment be fruit- all Ministries. This time no discussion could ful? be held on important ministries like Defence, Home and Human Resource Development. Regarding loyalty my ~ubmission is that Discussion was held in respect of Agricul- Bihar produces coal, manganese and iron- ture, Power and only half a day could be ore but gets the minimum loyalty. The Gov- devoted to discussions on External Affairs. I ernment should implement the pre-nation- want to know what is this Budget and what is alisation policy which consisted before 1971 this budget session. Please devise certain for coal royalty. The Government fixes the ways by which maximum Members may price of coal in accordance with local prices participate in the discussions. Otherwise but while Gujarat and Assam get the profit of there will be no control over the Ministries. petroleum products manufactured there, why does Bihar not get the same profit? The hone Even after many plans. Bihar continues Finance Minister should enable Bihar also to be most backward. Bihar required at least get the same price for cooking coal as Gujarat Rs. 12,000 crores to reach the national 3nd Assam get the petroleum products Le. average, but it was provided only Rs. 5,100 keeping the profit factor in view. Why this crores in the Seventh Five Year Plan. Even double policy is being followed the royalty for though it is the most backward State. In the coal should be ad valorem. It is only then that case of per capita income, Bihar ranks sec- they would be able to get remunerative price ond after Nagaland. The State has abundant for coal. natural resources. Its agriculture production is also good. But continuous floods and Not even a single industry has been set drought have deteriorated its economy. There up in the Public Sector in Bihar. Only Steel is one more reason for this. The rate of Plant was established in Bokaro 1964, had capital investm&nt is very low in Bihar whether Shrimati Indira Gandhi made an announce- it is by public sector or by private sector. ment that petro-chemicals industry should be established near the refinery in Barauni. Central assistance is also too meagre. At present why are 22 thousand minor and 489 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Finance BiH, 1989 490 major small scale industries lying closed in revolution should take place in Orissa also. Bihar? This is so because there is shortage of power there as that State has only 3 power With these words I welcome the finance stations. Moreover the central assistance for Bill and thank the han. Finance Minister and power is almost negligible there. A thermal also Mr. Speaker for having given me time to power station was set up first in Pateratu and speak. then in Barauni but the one being set up in Kahalgaon is still lying incomplete. My sub- [Eng/ish] mission is that the small as well as major industries are facing closure because of MR. CHAIRMAN: I am sorry now I shortage of power. cannot allow any other hon. Member to speak. The Finance Minister will have to reply. I would like to draw your attention to my constituency in North Bihar where all the THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHAI industries are lying closed due to shortage of S.B. CHAVAN): Mr. Chairman, Sir, at the power. outset I must express my grateful thanks to all the hon. Members who have participated 16.00 hrs. in the discussion of the Finance Bill and if you allow me to say so, the discussion on the I would like to submit that just as the Finance Bill turned into a general discussion hon. Prime Minister has set up a Food Proc- on the Budget and not only on the Budget but essing Ministry and a Pepsi Industry has most of the Ministries which were left out been set up in Punjab, similarly a food proc- where also brought under the purview of this essing industry can be set up at least in discussion. Motihari in North Bihar. Agro based indus- tries should be set up there. I would like to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Ra- submit that injustice has always been done japur): It is post guillotine. to Bihar and I feel that the hon. Minister should remove it. Bihar should be given SHAI S.B. CHAVAN: I do not want to maximum assistance and in order to remove difateonthatpointunnecessarify and Iwould the wide gap and disparity which is even not like to provoke him. The entire Budget increasing, maximum funds should be allo- session was converted into a non-Budget cated to it in the Eighth Five Year Plan. The Session. That is how the whole thing had entire region is backward and the Govern- happened. At any rate, I must say that it will ment should take steps for its upliftment. The be rather difficult for me to reply on behalf of Budget presented by the han. Finance Min- all the administrative Ministries which were ister provides social justice, basic and infra- not discussed on the floor of the House and structure facilities. This will help in the devel- the Hon. Members will bear with me that it opment of the country and in strengthening will not be possible for I have taken note of all its basic structure. I welcome the Budget the points which the hon. Members had prepared under the leadership of our able raised but it will be rather difficult for me to Finance Minister. I would again like to draw respond to most of the suggestions which your attention once again towards Bihar. 10 have no relevance so far as the Finance Bill per cent of the Cement used to be produced is concerned. in Bihar but now it produces only 3 per cent. The mills in Japla and Rohtas etc. are lying PAOF. MADHU DANDAVATE: They closed. The government should get them should do it before the reshuffle. opened and pay more attention to the indus- trialisation in Bihar. "this is not done then the progress in Bihar will be hampered and it will SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA (Poonani): no more exist on the map of India in so far as The points should be communicated to the industry is concerned. Similarly industrial Ministries. 491 rllJallC8 BiI. 1989 MAY 2, 1989 Finance 811. 1989 492

SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I \¥Ot.td request all SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I didn' means my esteemad colleagues in the Cabinet that friends outskie. but I meant friends who are they wiD take up aH the points which the hone sitting opposite. While criticising the budget. Members have said on the flood oftha House. criticising some of the schemes of the Gov- emment. I can well understand the self- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE introspection which in fad is expected in a DEPARTMENT OF EXPENDITURE IN THE debate of this nature. I must really thank all MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI B.K. those han. Members who made very con- GADHVI): That is our practice. crete suggestions as to what needs to be dona. Immediately I will not be able to say as PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: They to what ultimately is going to happen. But if should do it before the reshufflel the self-criticism were to go beyond a par- ticular limit, then it ultimately becomes seH- SHRI B.K GADHVI: We are doing it in denigration and I do not think that any of the respect of every Ministry. hon. Members would be interested in creat- ing an atmosphere where we should lose the SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I must especially confidence and face the entire people with a thank Prof. N.G. Ranga. though he is not sense of frustration. I don' think any of the here, for making a very forceful speech. hone Members would be interested in that kind of a thing. Why I was provoked to say I must say at the outset that this Finance this was one of the hon. Members stated that Bill translates the Budget which was pre- ultimately being an election year, the Gov- sented into action, into a sort of mechanism, ernment has to produce a pro-poor budget. by which all the taxation proposals are brought I must express my gratitude that he has within the purview of the Rnance Bill. conceded that this a pro-poor budget. But he prefixed it by saying that because of the I have very clearly stated all details not election year, the Government had to do it. only at the time of the presentation of the Certainly, I would not like to hide fads. Ours Budget but at the time when I made the is not a charitable organisation. We are a speech when the Finance Bill was placed political party. I believe that you are also a before this House for consideration and in a political party. When you say this, I am sure very straightforward manner I have pointed that you are not saying with any other mo- out which are the issues on which we have to tives than the political. Ultimately, all the be more careful. I think the hone Members political parties are bound to put forth their will agree with me that this is the year when ideas, their point of view with a view to say we should consider all issues before we that their policies would be implemented if commence our Eighth Five Year Plan. The they are to be voted to power. There is Eighth Five Year Plan is in the offing. A nothing wrong to say so. I do not know why number of things are being discussed at this we should try to run down any kind of phi- stage. This is the proper time when all the Iosophy. This is the kind of programme which hone Members if they had concentrated on the hone Prime Minister has put before the most of the issues which are in fact going to people. There is nothing wrong about it. We find a place in the Eighth Five Year Plan. they do not want to hide it. This is going to be our would have done a tremendous amount of programme. We are going to reach every service for preparing the Eighth Five Year village panchayat. For the last almost one Plan as such. In this context, the friends year. hone Prime Minister has been going sitting outside will excuse me... ( Interruptions) round the country, going to the smallest village hamlet. (/ntenuptions) I think. he is the first Prime Minister who has gone to the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Do you remotest village in our country. Some of the mean Members outside the Government. State Governments have reacled in a differ- (lntfHTlJllions) ent way. They said that they would not par- FIIIIInC9 811. 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) FIIIIIIJC9 Bill. 1989 494

tidpate in the discussion that our Prime other. State Governments and Zila Parishads MiniSter is going to have. They boycotted used to tell us that this did not happen. some of the meetings which were called by (/ntem..ptions) the hone Prime Minister. That became a matter of prestige for some ofthe hone friends. SHRI AMAL DAnA (Diamond Har- But certainly I would not like to go into the bour): I am glad that you admitted it, though political aspect of it. Anyhow, I think that after belatedly. going through the entire country. visiting the smallest of the villages, seeing the hut of a ..sHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Yes, yes. We are poor man. the Prime Minister comes back accepting it. There is nothing wrong in it. H and he gives the very revolutionary pro- we are going to start a new programme. gramme. According to me, this is a revolu- certainly. we have to give justification for that tionary programme which he has given to the and this is our justification. (intemlptions) country. We must have at least the minimum courtesy of saying that this is really a very SHRt AMAL DAIT A: The Prime Minis- good programme which ultimately is going to ter has also said which you have forgotten to transform this entire society. We have been mention that the Panchayat system is the talking about democratic set up of our coun- best in West Bengal and that should be try. this is the basic thing that he has given. emulated. (Interruptions) If our base is going to be strengthened, the super-structure thereafter. in act, will be very SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: If the Prime Min- very strong. We have been neglecting the ister has said this. I do not know why you are Panchayati Raj and for that matter, the entire getting provoked here. You should be exercise which was carried out so far was an happy... ( Interroptions) exercise of mistrust. Some of the those who are sitting here and some State Govern- SHRI AMAl DA1T A: I am filling in the ments consider that Zita Parishad people gaps which you have left out. cannot possibly transform our ideas into adion. Similar thing used to happen in this SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: H it is already case of Panchayat Samitis and even in the there, we are very happy and we will be able case of Gram Panchayats. Now the Prime to implement the programme in a more ef- Minister is fully convinced that unless we fective manner. This is exactly what we start from the root, there is no idea in giving want. Irrespective of party affiliations. wher- a programme whether it is 'Garibi Hatao' or ever the village panchayat is effectively in a whether it is Employment Generation Pro- position to translate this programme into gramme, Poverty Alleviation Programme or action, certainly we will welcome the idea It giving some kind of a relief to unorganised is not given only to Congress-ruled States. It labour etc. It is the list of the people below the is given to all the States. I will take this poverty line which is ultimately going to decide opportunity to say that there has been some the whole thing. The District Collectors and kind of misunderstanding with some of the all those people who are sitting in the district, hone Members here who were talking on the used to decide as to who are the people who subject as if this Jawahar Rozgar Vojna was are belawthe poverty line. Now. even if it is still confined to 120 districts. It is not so. Now, in the village, no wrong person can possibly it is extended to all the districts in our country. come in the list of those who are below the All States and all the villages are going to be poverty line. Immediately. he will be caught covered. So, it is for all·the hone Members there and wiD be asked: 'how is it that your now to see and go to their villages and name has come in the list of persons who are concentrate there and see that the commu- bebw the poverty line.· So also. when this nity assets are aeatad out of the money programma is being implemented. we re- which is being given to them. Whether it is quire the assistance of large number of As. 1 lakh or As. 21akhs. according to me, is people. We used to have some excuse orthe not an important factor. The important factor 495 Financs Bill, 1989 MAY 2, 1989 Finance BiD, 1989 496

[Sh. S.B. Chavan1 the other and uttimately it does nm mean much, is nothing new. Actually I would not is that every pie that we are going to spent in like to go into the details of it. There is no this is properly utilised for the good of the harm. Though I was in America, I know the community at large and is not wasted. That kind of ruling given by the Han. Speaker. At is the point on which we have to concentrate. the same time, since the House knows what I am sure, the States Governments will be ruling has been given, I don't want to say able to see reasons. One han. Chief Minister more on that. seems to have reacted to it though his counter-part in West Bengal seems to have I would like to merely say that it was also welcomed the idea. Mr. Nayannar still seems a very bold and deliberate decision with a to have some other idea in his mind. I do not view to seeing that the trend of deficit is know what exadly has made him think like reversed. It is not that accidently things that. I think Mr. Jyoti Basu will be able to happened. It is a deliberate matter of policy persuade him in order to see that this pro- that we would like to reverse the trend. Also gramme is also implemented in Kerala. in the case of Defence, the same thing happened. These are the two very bold At this stage the one point on which I decisions which I am sure most of the Hon·. would like to give information is about con- Members would appreciate that we have cessions. A number of concessions have started with this. been announced after the Budget was pre- sented. The Hon. Members are right in say- You may also have a kind of lurking ing that when the concessions are announced suspicion in your mind that may be during it has been our experience also that on the the course of the year the kind of deficit first day when the Budget is introduced, from which we have shown to the Parliament will that day the whole thing becomes effective; get increased. I would like to inform the prices are hiked; and when the concessions House that every effort will be made to see are given, they just don't want to reduce the that we stick to the deficit that we have prices. This time we have taken a decision presented to the Parliament-unless there that we will set up a monitoring group. In are very compelling reasons. Somewhere every scheme where the possibility of reduc- something very unusual happens, some tion of prices is there, the benefit of the natural calamity takes place and we are concessions should reach the targetted group required to go to their assistance are all that we have in mind. This will bea kind of things which are beyond our control. But left mechanism which in fact is going to look to ourselves, certainly we would not like to after that the concessions are reaching the increase the deficit. It will be my conscious targetted group. I am sure that Hon. Mem- effort to see that the deficit is reduced to the bers will also look into the matter. bearest minimum. The day I had presented the Budget to the House, on the very same There is another point which at thIs day I had written to all my cabinet colleagues stage I would like to bring to the notice of the requesting them for giving the kind of coop- House. That is about our deliberate attempt, eration which in fad is necessary. Last year I should also at this stage say that it is also we could succeed because of the fad because of the Prime Minister that we have that I have got cooperation from all the been able to reduce our deficH-both the administrative ministries. I am sure this year revenue deficit and the overall deficit. That is also I gat the same kind of cooperation. Non- also a very bold step that he has taken. But developmental and non-plan expenditure trying to belittle it by saying that afterall this should be the bearest minimum. Establish- is from the acc that you have transferred ment charges should be brought down to the about As. 2000 crores from one account to extent they are absolutely necessary. 497 Finance BIH. 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Finance BiR, 1989 498

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Last States are covered under Special category, year, with their cooperation, the deficit went where it is 90% grant and 10% loan. An. han. up. Member from Jammu & Kashmir raised a point as to why Jammu & Kashmir has not SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: You seem to been covered under Special Category States. forget that last year means before 31 st March. It is difficult for me to go into the details of it. Since we are continuing for three months, But in some areas of Jammu & Kashmir, I that kind of feeling is there. think, it is the Ladakh area, which becomes entitled for 900/0 grant and 100/0 loan and for Last year everybody cooperated and rest of the areas, it is the general formula of that is why we could conta;n the deficit to that 70-30, which in fad, becomes effective. So level. I will also make an appeal to all the hon. this is a Special Category State which ai- Chief Ministers of different States and re- most-both Plan and non-Plan-is being quest them to cooperate in this matter. In the financed by the Central Government-both matter of overdraft, try to follow the guide- the Finance Commissions and some times lines given by the Reserve Bank of India and even by the Planning Commission. They are I can barely inform this House that there will given non-Plan grants. There is another be no exception so far as the overdraft category called the middle category where position is conr.,erned. If there is overdraft the per capita income happens to be below beyond the permissible limit, then, of course, the per capita average of the country. In this the drill which is prescribed by the Reserve category, six to seven States are there and Bank of India will come into being. I do not if I am not mistaken. Bihar is also one of the think that any State Government will possi- States under this Category. bly go to that length.To the extent possible, we try to help them out. At the same time, I DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI (Sam- will expect that the kind of discipline which balpur): What about Orissa? we expect from all the State Governments will be forth-coming and that there will be no SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I am talking about room for taking any action which is contem- Bihar and not Orissa. h depends on the per plated under the Reserve Bank scheme. capita income. If the per capita income is below the national average, then certainly it Sir, the next point I would like to empha- ;s covered by that formula-the modified sise at this stage, is that most of the hon. Gadgil formula-by which special grant is Members were saying something about the given to such category of States. imbalances in the country. Though in fact. this is not the time for giving all kinds of The third category will be those States figures and also not exactly within the sphere which are not covered under the two. of the finance Ministry.-actually, it is within the sphere of the Planning Commission- since a number of hon. Members made this So these are the three categories of point and since I have some kind of back- States which in fact are oovered under the ground. on that basis I would like to put-forth assistance which is being given by the Central this point of view. Government. I only hope that the kind of assistance that they get-both Plan and fhere are three categories of States for non-Plan-will be fully utilised in a batter which Central assistance is given by the manner so that after a particular lapse of Centre and that too on the basis of the time, they should be on par with the rest of recommendations given by full Finance the country. How it is being done, whether Commission. they have been able to do it or not, is a matter which wiD require the attention of the Plan- Sir, the first category is that of 'Special ning Commission. I am sure that the Plan- Category State--all hilly States. Hill area ning Commission will be able to do it. 499 Fmance BiI. 1989 MAY 2.1989 Fmance Bill, 1989 500

PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): What the international market or not. My approach about the North-Eastem States? to the problem will be that import and export is a matter in which these policies are being SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: All North-Eastern followed with a view to see that our products States are being covered under the Special become internationally competitive. If there Category. They wiD be entitled for 90% Grant are out-dated technologies which have been and 10% loan. (/ntenuptions) imported by some people certainly you bring that to our notice and we will take action I think you will allow me to complete and against them. But our approach is to get the thereafter if there are any questions. then I latest technology so that we should be able will try to respond to that at that point of time. to produce goods of such a nature which At this stage. I think. you will bear with me. I uttimately become competitive in the inter- may be allowed to continue. (Interruptions) national market. By 1992 European Eco- nomic Community is going to come into The next point on which I would like to being. If we really want our goods to be enlighten this House is regarding our bal- competitive there certainly we will have to ance of payment position about which I have introduce the new technology and with obso- made matters absolutely clear. I have not lete technology if we try to produce the hidden anything from this House. There was goods then certainly we will be happy in that only a discrepancy between certain figures we have reduced the imports but we will not because of different sources from which be able to export the items that will be these figures were compiled. Our figures produced. So we have to make a choice and show that our total foreign debt is of the order the choice has to be conscious. Government of 42.5 billion dollars or so while there IMF has taken a conscious decision that our figures show it is 55 billion dollars. In these goods haveto be competitive. Forsometime two figures there is discrepancy because of on the basis of some kind of good relation- various reasons like methodology. ourdiffer- ship they may accept our goods but if those ent exchange rates are also taken into ac- goods are not good quality-wise then. I do count by them and there are other factors not think. on the basis of goodwill of any involved which, in fact, it will be difficutt to go country we can possibly depend. Our goods into here now. have to be competitive and on the basis of quality they should be able to compete with SHRI AMAL DAITA: Why don't you the international market. There is no reason circulate? why we should fall behind. We have the capability to produce the goods. The only 5HRI 5.B. CHAVAN: They are printed point is there is shortage of foreign exchange documents. Of course. with little effort it and that is why this crunch is being felt. I can should be possible for anyone of the hon. assure that hone Members that now the Member to find out what exactly is the basis 5DRs which we have taken in 1981 have on which they are being Worked. reached the peak this year. After this year, it will taper down and thereafter the kind of Sir. our effort;s to see that the percent- crunch that we are feeling today will be age of the debt servicing to the total export is reduced to a certain extent. But we will have brought down. It is on the increase. I have not to see that lUXUry goods and other items denied H. It is on the increase. We have to which are being imported are not allowed to make a special and a oonscious effort to Sge be imported merely because they are under that the kind of imports that we are having OGL. We have made an effort to see that are curtailed and imports should be linked they are taken on the restrict&d list so that with export effort that we are doing. Now it is they are not able to misuse the powers given a matter of policy about which we will have to for importing certain goods. take a decision whether the hon. Members would like our oountry to be competitive in Regarding the price front. I would like to 501 FInance SiB, 1989 VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Finance BiR, 1989 502

inform this House that if W8 have to compare agricultural sector and the industria' sector. the rate of inflation, the rate of price hike in For the middle classes also, these things 1987-88 and 1988-89, we will have to com- have been attempted. Since these public pare the comparable figures. The wholesale documents are available to afl the hone price index on the one side and the con- Members, I do not think that I should go into sumer price index on the other side will not the details of them. work... (/nt9/T1.f)tions) ••• When we take the base of WPI, it will have to be the corre- The next point which was voiced by sponding WPI of 1988-89 with which we will almost all the hone Members was about have to compare. We have to compare on raising the exemption limit under the Income that basis. Then we can see that the rate of Tax Act from Rs. 18.000 to Rs. 25,000. I inflation has come down. That day, at the would like to enlighten this House that I have time of the question hour, I did concede the done some exercise. First of all, let me bring point that we should not be complacent to the notice of the hone House that some about it and every effort should be made to hone Members have asked as to how is it that see that the consumer price index does not more emphasis in on the indirect taxes. The go beyond a particular limit. In one year, if I excise and customs duty and other things have to make a claim that I am going to do it, have been attempted and so far as the direct I do not think that it is going to materialise. taxes are concerned, you try to shy away; We have to make an effort over a period of you don't try to expose the same. So. the time and if we continue the same thing, I am basis has to be exhaustive. That was on one sure, the consumer price index will be brought point. This was the contention and that is down to some extent but not to the original also the policy which we have enunciated in level which is going to be almost impossible. this House. So. consistent with that the effort I do not think that we will be reaching that that we have made is that in the first place we level before ten or fifteen years. To some have brought down the entry group from 25 extent. this kind of price rise is bound to be to 20. Now. I will try to inform the House there. I do not think that there will be any about the savings instruments which are short cut for this. At the same , we have to available and under which almost up to make efforts to S99 that the public distribu- 62,000 to 65,000 people get thG exemptions tion system works well. the cooperatives are under the Income Tax Act. 'I able to operate properly and the consumer resistance is also there for certain things. SHAI G.M. BANATWALLA: But noth- Actually, this kind of educative movement ing is left to save. will have to be carried out. Our hon. Prime Minister has been emphasising very much SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: "I have to inform that there should be some kind of consumer the House, these figures will be very useful resistance on certain goods. So long you are for the Hon. Members. If the limit is raised prepared to take anything, I do not think that from Rs. 18000 to As. 20,000 the loss of the kind of price rise that we find can be revenue--if the entry rate is 20 per cent avoided and that is why consumer resis- which we have brought down-is going to be tance should be there. The public distribu- Rs. 225 crores. And the number of people tion system has to be streamlined and if all who will go out of income tax net will be 91akh the goods reach the poorer sections espe- in the first case. " it is raised to As. 25,000 cially. then I am sure that the prices will be then the number of people will be 17 lakhs. controlled to some extent but not fulty. The loss of revenue at 25 per cent will be Rs. 550 crores. So, with this I don't think that it is Sir, the next thing about which I would going to be possible for the Government to like to inform the hone Members is about the lose the revenue which in fad we very badly number of benefits which in fact is given in require. It is because of this that such a huge the Budget itself. You will find that a large resource mobilisation effort had to be taken nUmber of things have been done both in the and that is why I thought it fit to bring it to the 503 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2.1989 Finance BiH, 1989 504

[Sh. S.B. Chavan] income is almost Rs. 1000 or Rs. 1200 or so. I am not quite sure about the figures. Butthey notice of the Hon. Members that the number will get the maximum relief under the income of people who are paying income tax is 70 tax if it is extended to that area. If 97 per cent lakhs. In a population of almost 80 crores, of the people have to submit their selt-as- their figure is 70 lakhs. If we try to give more sessment, we are prepared to accept it. exemption and if we allow these people to go They are bound to sustain some kind of a out of the income tax net, 17 lakh people, it loss. I may assure them that if they sustain will mean that it will have very long rapercus· any loss. the Government of India will see to sions. On the other hand, our effort is to see it that they will be compensated for it. So. that the income tax rates are brought down with this kind of understanding I don't find with a view to see that we get greater reve- any justification as to why resistance should nue. H we are able to do that, then a large be there for extending the Direct Tax laws. number of people will have to pay the income Might be that some people who want to tax; otherwise there is no other method. If I evade the tax in the country and who have give this exemption, indirect taxes will have located their industries in order to avoid the to be increased to that extent and then you payment of the income tax, will be hit by this will ask, why is it that the indirect taxes are to some extent. But I don't think Sikkim as a being increased with a view to give benefit to whole is going to suffer. I do not think Sikkim the direct taxes payers? I don't think that this as a whole is going to suffer. fits into our policy and that is why I am sorry, I will not be able to concede the point which Another point is about the Grop Insur- the Hon. Members have raised here. ance Scheme. Actually, as envisaged, we had implemented the scheme during the Another point which the lady Member Kharif Season and quite a huge amount of from Sikkim has raised is about the exten- money had to be given and some rather sion of the Direct Tax laws to Sikkim. Fortu- undeSirable activities came to our notice nately, I must say that the Han. Chief MinIS- both in Gujarat and Maharashtra. The basis ter of that area has been gracious enough to itself is not very sound. This is why. we sat in say, -We will not create a kind of confronta- a Group of Ministers' Meeting and every- tion between the Centre and the State." The thing was thrashed out. Actually. it is a kind Central Government has to merely appoint of benefit which the banks are going to get. some kind of team in order to see that all the We are trying to see that 40 per cent is difficulties which they are experiencing should contributed by the Central Government, 40 be looked into. percent by the State Government and 20 per cent by the Banks and instead of giving them PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You 150 per cent of the money, it will be some- can refer to her but not to her husband. where near 100 per cent of the total amount of premium which is being paid by these SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Her husband's people. So, that much amount will be made statement is there. I cannot help it. available so that they do not become defaul- ters with the bank. SHAI MUALI OEORA (Bombay South): He is complimenting him. I will try to find out as to how cross- subsidisation is going to be possible. At this SHRIS.B.CHAVAN: He saw the Prime stage, it is very difficult for me to say anything Minister and thereafter issued a public state· on this point. Shri Patil had made a point that ment saying, -We are not opposed to ex- if this scheme would be extended to other tending. Direct Tax Ad to Sikkim but our money~rops, we might get more money and difficulties are bound to be there." I must we would be able to cross-subsidise the inform the House that there the income tax is scheme. As I said, immediately I will not be being levied for very small people whose able to say anything on this aspect. It is the 505 Finance SiR, 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Finance Bill, 1989 506

Gle which has to look into the matter and subsidies so far as fertilizers are concerned. give their reactions on the total implications At least the information which is given to me of the scheme. But this scheme has been clearly shows that we are almost giving Rs. made applicable to the Rabi area and from 3000 crores. next year. it will become a regular scheme, which in the modified form wUl be made I had called ·for a pre-Budget discus- applicable. That is why all the agriculturists sion. We have had pre-Budget discussion will be able to take full benefit of the scheme. with a large number of people. The agricul- turist group was specialty invited for discuss- I would like to bring to the notice of the ing this aspect with me. They were unani- hon. members one more point about the mous on this point. They have brought to my agriculture sector. This is about the small notice that though these manufacturers are and marginal farmers who in fad happen to getting the benefits of it but they are not be in a biS number. When natural calamities being passed on to the cuttivators. I have not occur, we give them res~uling benefit. yet finalised my views. But I am fulty con- According to me rescheduling is not a relief vinced that they are not passing any of these at all. They have to pay back the money with benefits to the cultivators. In fact. I am per- interest. That is why I have asked all the sonally interested in going through and find- banks that specially in the case of small and ing out a solution to the problem as to how marginal farmers, they should try to see that best we will be able to work out the schemes it is not more than the principal amount. That so that the cultivators get the benefits and is known as 'Dhamdhupad' principle has to not these manufadurers. be made applicable in the case of small and marginal farmers. This. in fact. is going to Now, I will come to the question of rates benefit quite a large number of agriculturists of irrigation. power, pesticides and other in the country. assistance being given to these cultivators. Some hon. Members were saying that if AN. HON. MEMBER: It should be ex- there is greater production. the cultivators tended to all farmers. suffer badly. So far as the cereals and other things are concerned the support price which PROF. N.G. RANGA: Penal rate of has been announced by the Government of Interest Will have to be dropped. India-it is the responsibility of our organisa- tions under the Agriculture Ministry to enter SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I have discussed the market when the prices fall very much with all the bank people and other officers below. In order to give protection to the and this is the final conclusion to which we cultivators. let them not have a feeling that if have come at this stage. We can at least they were to produce more. they are going to make a beginning with small and marginal be penalised. farmers and give them the benefit. When we gain some kind of experience. we will try to PROF. N.G. RANGA: Not only the extend the scheme H it becomes absolutely Agriculture Ministry but also the Commerce necessary and if we find that Govemment is Ministry. not losing heavily. In one year we have lost Rs. 500 crores in two districts in two States. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: The Commerce That is why everybody is rather frightened. Ministry will come into the picture only when So, the entire scheme has to have some kind it is a matter of exports. of a relook as to why we are losing 30 heavily. This is th9 new formula that we have brought PAOF. N.G. RANGA: No, no. about. First. this is being extended to the small and marginal farmers. SHAI S.B. CHAVAN: If it is absolutely necessary, certainly at that stage, we can We have been giving a huge amount of consider as to what is to be dona in order to 507 Finance Bill, 1989 MAY 2.1989 Finance Bill, 1989 508

[She S. B. Chavan] in order to strengthen the Panchayati Raj institutions and also to see that the schemes give protection to the agriculture sedor. The as envisaged are being properly imple- things which we wanted to do forthe agricul- mented. turists, to some extent, we have been able to do for them. I am not fully satisfied that SHRI ATAUR RAHMAN (Barpeta): In everything has been done which in fact was his reply, the Minister said that he has made required under the circumstances. Butthis is a special provision for the hill States-in the first effort that we are making in that which case hilly states lire given 900/0 graf1t direction. and 100/0 loan. For the State of Assam, ther!:! is 70c};' grant and 30% loan. But one point: in the State of Assam. we have 18 tribes. You I know that Prof. Ranga has very clear know the case of Assam: it is a very poor views on thiC3 issue. To the extent possible, State, and is surrounded by foreign coun- certainly we Will try to see that his views are tries on all sides. It should be treated spe- also being implemented. But there is a re- ciaily,likethe hill States forthe saka of tribes. source crunch. Whatever may be the re- sources, we will have to J..eep ourselves SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: So far as the within the limits that we have set for OUI- State of Assam is concerned, I \/lIould say selves. If we try to go very much beyond our this. Actually, the kind of approach that we capacity to raise the resources, then again have adopted for the hill-area States applies the question of deficit financing and all other to States which do net have any kind of bad effects to the economy will be seen. I resource-raising base: very tiny States liJ..e don't think that we should try to resort to that Mallipur. Mizoram and Nagaland which are kind of a situation which in fact :s not desir- small States. We had them In view; and that able. Fortunately, out economy is very buoy- is why Arunachal also .... ant. All along the line in the S~venth Plan, you will see that whatever physical targets PROF. MADHU OANDAVATE: Mahar- we have decided for ourselve~. we have ashtra, compared to U.P ... been able to achieve, barring one or two very small items. But in most of the itgms we have SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Maharashtra and been able to reach the target. That is why, U.P. are big States. They have very big this gives an added confidence. The rate of resource-base. I do not think they deserve growth in the beginning was 3 per cent to 3.5 any kind of spectal treatment. But, at the per cent. Now, for over 10 years, the rate of same time. because of comoulsions, these growth comes to 5 per cent or 5.2 per cent. tiny States had to be created; and for those So, this gives an added confidence that with who do not have their own resource base, 6 per cent rate of growth, we would be able Government of India will have to go to their to I?unch (Jur Eighth Five Year Plan. It will not rescue. But I do not think that Assam, for that be totally unreasonable to expect that we will matter, can possibly claim any kind of pro- be able to raise the resources In order to taction under this scheme. reach that level of 6 per cent rate of growth. So, this IS a kind of confidence that we get. I SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH (Uluberia): am quite sure that with the kind of resources The hone Minister said th~t the Chief Minis- that we have invested in different areas-- ters should strictly follow the rules of eco- growth with social justice is our objective-it nomic discipline, and that the quostion of should be possible for us to achieve the expansion of their resources was under the same and reach to the targetted group of consideration of the Government of India. people who need to be helped in this matter. The decision has to be taken by the Central Government on the question of consigllment In that respect, I will again request all tax. Have you decided on it? If so, what pre the hon. Members to give their co-operation the details? 509 Rnance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Finance Bi/I, 1989 510

Another small point I have. creative arts like dance, music, graphic arts and letters. The details in this regard will be MR. CHAIRMAN: He has already worked out shortly. committed it. As in integral part of the Government's SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: During the emphasis in the Seventh Plan on the broad- course of the discussion on the Finance Bill. basing and development of excellence in the 'Prime Minister announced the Jawahar sports in the country; it has been our policy Rozgar Yojana. The Minister also praised to make avaflable to sports persons equip- that programme-with a big fanfare. The ment and facilities of the highest standard. clarification I want to have from the hon. With this end in view, import of high quality Minister is whether he has increa$ed the eqUipment, not currently In the range of money for it; or was it the same as earlier indigenous manufacture, has been facili- announced, and that only the programme tated towards the building up of sports infra- was announced during the course of the structure of international standards. Gov- debate; the entire money, whatever it was, ernment are, however. conscious of the need had been given in the budgetary provisions, to further liberalise the policy in this behalf, and on that day, only the lecture was there. especially in view of our participation in inter- Was any money added to it? national events like the Olympics and World Games, Commonwealth Games, Asian SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: The han. Prime Games, Afro·Asian Games and the like. The Minister having announced the programme, libarafised policy, which the Government I c.an assure the Members that first, two propose to introduce in this behalf, would be; things have been amalgama:ed. The As. in respect of individual sports persons of 500 erore!> that we are going to raise on an outstanding eminence as well as for upgrad- 80/0 surcflarge on the income tax-if they are ing of ourgeneraJ training facilities to interna- taken together. it comes to the figure of As. tional standards. Details of the policy are 2100 crores. So, it has been fully provided being worked out. for; and jj, according to the scheme, some more money needed to be there. certainly at Hon'ble Members will recollect that that particular stage, we will consider it. had stated the Government's Intention to formulate certain schemes for weak units I was talking orally; there are 2 or 3 and for promoting savings. I am happy to things which, I think, I will have to mention. In inform Members that these have now been order to be very precise, they are written, formulated and I am in a position to give the and that is why I would like to mention them. details within the Budget Session itself.

let me now tum to thosa who aim at SAVINGS SCHEMES excellence of mind and of body-our artists and sportsmen. Members are aware that The Equity linked Savings Scheme is there has been a phenomeral upsurge in meant to encourage Investment in equity by cultural activities in recent times. Still our house-holds. The basic features of this creative artists and writers are suffering from scheme will be as follows: several handicaps, and one of them is lack of appropriate equipment and material. Some 1) The Scheme will operate throug h of these have to be imported, as tJiese are closed-end funds sat up for this not available indigenously; and when they purpose by UTI or other mutual are imported. the duties on such items make funds. them costly. Government have, therefore, decided to provide a limited privilege of duty- 2) A sum of upto Rs. 10,000 in- free imports to se'ected individuals and insti- vested in these funds will be eli- tutions after due appraisal in the fields of gible for full deduction from tax- 511 Finance BRI, 1989 MAY 2. 1989 Finat'lCfl BiR, 1989 512

[Sh. S.B. Chavan) following:-

able income in the year in which (a) balance at the credit investment is made. A new sec- of the employee in Govern- tion will be introduced for this ment Provident fund; purpose in the Income Tax. (b) retIrement/superan- 3) The amounts collected by the nuation gratuity; funds wilt be invested in equity of new and old companies. (c) commuted value of pension; 4) Dividends realised by eacn such clos_ fund wHI be fully distrib- (d) cash equivalent of uted and will be eligible for de- leave; and duction under section 80L. (e) savings element of 4) Withdrawals will be permitted Government insurance after a lock-in period of three scheme payable to the years at a repurchase price based employee on retirement. on the net asset value of each fund. The part of the withdrawal (3) Investment will be for a period that corresponds to the purchase of three years. At the option of value of the unit will be added to the depositor, the account can income and the part correspond- be continued even thereafter. ing to the increase in the value of the unit as reflected in the repur- (4) The depositor will be paid inter- chase price will be added to the est on the balance in the ac- capital gains in the year of with- count at half yearly intervals. drawal. The rate of interest may be 9 percent. I had also announced the formulation of a scheme for retiring government servants. (5) The scheme will be operated This has also been formulated and will have through public sector banks the following features:- and the depositors will be given pass books. The banks will (1) The scheme will be open for pass on to Government ac- investment by retiring Central and count the credits for receipts State Government employees. and the debts for payment The benefit of the Scheme will made. also be made available to Gov- ernment employees who have (6) As the scheme is a combined already retired. Retiring employ- scheme for Central and State ees should make the investment Government employees it is within three months of the date of proposed that 500/0 of the net retirement while retired employ- collection in the banks situ- ees should do so within 3 months ated in a State may be passed of the date of commencement of on to that State Government the scheme. as loans on the lines of sharing of small savings deposits. (2) The retirement benefit eligible for investment in this scheme The third savings scheme was the n"w should not exceed the total of the National Savings Certificate. Series VIII. This 513 FlnancB BII, 1989 VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Finance BiD, 1989 514 proposal has been implemented and the payments, finanoial restructuring, Notification in this regard has been issued. repaym&ntofterm loans and such The sale of the certificates will commence other items as are directly r.le- shortly. The main features of the scheme vant for the purposes of rehabili- are: tation, modemiaation or diversi- fication. The investments in the NSC VIII Issue will be opM to individuals (3) The "~t'" would he en... and also to institutions like titled to an ~-fr.e Ioans, Companies, partnership firms, with a grace period of three years local authorities, corporations, ·Mld,~ersevenyears, trusts etc. amounting to 50 per ~nt of its ·"ualeMCts.payments for three 17.00 hr•• years subsequent to the approval of the scheme. The total amount (2) The investments will carry the inter- given by way of such excise est of 12 per cent

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: When I that we are taking a complacent view. sought a clarification, the Minister said that he would give the clarification later. MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:

SHRI K.P. SINGH DEO: What about "That the Bill to give effect to the some relief to ex-servicemen'? financial proposals of the Central Government for the financial year PROF. M~DHU DANDAVATE: Mr. 1989-90, be taken into considera- Chairman, I would t1ke to seek a clarification tion." from the hon.Minister on one point. I am very sorry that he has taken a very complacent The motion was adopted attitude about the external loans and has again repeated it today. (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: Now. we shall take up Clause by Clause consideration of the Han. Member, can I draw your attention Bill. to me? He seems to be talking always. He Clause 2 to 6 does it at twelve O'Clock and now also he is MR. CHAIRMAN: There are no amend- talking. ments to Clause 2 to 6.

Sir, I am very constrained to find that the The Question is: hen. Minister had taken a very complacent attitude abouf external debt and it IS very "That Clauses 2 to 6 stand part of clear that he still feels that 23 to 24 per cent the Bill." of debt service ratio IS not at all alarming. In fact, if you go through all the economic The motion was adopted journals, it is pointed out. Clauses 2 to 6 were added to the Bill MR. CHAIRMAN: He has already stated it. Clause 7 (Amendment of Section 32AB)

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Let me Amendment made: seek the clarification from him not you. It is 30 per cent. Therefore. will you at least take Page 5, for line 28, substitute- cognizance of this dangerous trend that has developed and try to see that there is some (c) in sub-section (3), with etfectfrom restraint on the external debt that we are the 1st day of April, 1991,- trying to have? (i) forthe portion beginning with 5HRI 5.B. CHAVAN: If the han. Mem- the words "The profits of ber has heard what I have stated in the eligible business or profes- House, in fact. it IS clear that we have not sion' and ending with the taken a complacent view. At the time of words "eligible business or initiating the debate on this Finance 81111 had profession are maintained. ", made this point very clear. Even at the time the following shall be substi- ofreplying also I have said that thiS is in fact tuted, namely:- a matter of great cO.neern to us. We would like to take a very serious view of the entire "The profit or business or thing. But to say that it has become very profession of an assessee alarming is not correct. I do not think that it for the purposes of sub- is very alarming. We can definitely manage. section (1) shall"; And I do not think that things are going'out of control. But it does do not n9C~ssarilv mean (ii) in the existing clause (a) as 517 Finance Bill, 1989 VAISAKHA 12,1911 (SAKA) Financ9 Bill, 1989 518 so amended,- MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:

(1) for the words "Sixth "That Clause 19. as Schedule-, the words and amended, stand part of figures "Schedule VI-shall the Bill." be substituted; The motion was adopted (2) the word "and" occurring at the end shall be omit- clause 19, as amended, was added to the ted; Bill

(iii) clause (b) shall be omitted; (4) Clause 20-(Amendment of Section 153)

Amendment made: (Shri S.B. Chavan) Page 8, for lines 39 to 45, substitute,- MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: Amendment of ··20 In section 153 of the "That Clause 7, as amended, stand Income-tax Act (as amended by section 153 part of the Bill.· section 59 of the Direct Tax Laws (Amend- ment Act, 1987). for sub- section(1).4of Th9 motion was adopted 1988 the following sub-section shall be substituted, namely:- Clause 7, as amended, was added to th9 Bill "(1) No order of assessment shall be made under sec- MR. CHAIRMAN: There are no amend- tion 143 or section 144 at ments to Clauses 8 to 18. any time after the expiry of- The question is: (a) two years from the end of ''That Clauses 8 to 18 stand part of the assessment year in the BiII.1I which the income was first assessable; or Th9 motion was adopt9d (b) one year from the end of Clauses 8 to 18 W9re added to the Bill the financial year in which .. a return or a revised re- Clause 19-(Amendment of Section 1155) tu,n relating tothe assess- ment year commencing Amendment made: on the 1st day of April, 1988, or any earlier as- Page 8, in line 36, for "after the 1st sessment year. is filed day of April, 1988·, substitute- under sub-section (4) or sub.section (5) of section "in a previous year relevant to the 139, assessment year commencing on or after the 1 st day of April, 1988". whichever is later.", (6) (5)

(Shri S.B. Chavan) (Shri S.B. Chavan) 519 Finance BHI, 1989 MAY 2.1989 Finane» BiR, 1989 520

MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: -That Fourth Schedula. as amended, stand part of the BiII.- -That Clause 20, as amended. stand part of the Bill." The motion was adopted

The motion was adopted Fourth Schedule, as amended, was added to the BiR Clause 20, as amended, was added to the Bill Fifth Schedule

MR. CHAIRMAN: There are no amend- Amendment made: ments to Clauses 21 to 51. Page 34, afterline 10. insert The question is: (5) in sub-he~dmg Nos. 5902.10 u-rhat Clauses 21 to 51 stand part of and 5902.20, for the entry in the Bill." column (4), the entry IIRs. 4.20- per kilogram" shall be substi- The motion was adopted tuted;

Clauses 21 to 51 were added to the Bill (6) in sub-heading No. 5902.30, for the entry in column (4). the MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is entry "Rs. 2.10 par kilogram" shall be substituted; "That First Schedule, SecondSchedule and third Schedule stand part of the Bill. (7) in sub-heading No. 6001. 12, for the entry in oolumn (4). the The motion was adopted entry "10%" plus Rs. 2.10 per square metre" shall be substi- First Schedule, Second Schedule, and tuted." (3) third Schedule were added to the Bill (Shri S.B. Chavan) Fourth Schedule MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: Amendment made: '7hat Fifth Schedule. as amended, Page 28. aftsr line 14, insert- stand part of the Bill."

(c) in sub-heading No. 2504.31, The motion was adopted for the entry in column (4), the entry "As. 15 per square metre" FIfth Schedule, as anJend9d. was add9d to shall be substituted; 't (1) the Bill

Page 29, after line 33, insert- MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:

(ii) in sub-heading No. 4823.90, for "That Sixth Schedule stand part of the entry in column (4), the entry the Bill· ~%. shall be substituted;". (2) The motion was adoptee/.

[Shri S.B. Chavan) Sixth Scheduls was added to the Bill

MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: MR. CHAIRMAN: The Question is: 521 Finance BiI. 1989 VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Disc. reo 522 Communal Situatio"

-That ~use 1. the Enacting for- 17.11 hr•• mula and the long tide stand part of the BiD.- DISCUSSION UNDER RULE 193

The motion was adopted [English] . Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the long title were added to the SiR Communal SItuation In Various Parts of the Country-Contd SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I beg to move: MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Vijaya Rama '1"hat the Bill, as amended, be Rao. passed.- DR. G. VIJAYA Ri\MA RAO (Sidipet): MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: After forty years of independence, today we are discussing the communal situation in our "That the Bill, as amend~, be country. Every year. communal riots take passed.- place in our country and they are on the increase. The figures from 1981 to 1987 are The motion was adopted as follows:

Total com munal incidents 3223

Muslims killed 1.822

Hindus killed 753

Muslims injured 8653

Hidus injured 10563

Loss of property Rs. 25.• 34,12.032 crores

casualty of the people was minimum 12 (T!le1ve)

17.12 hr•• few days and then they will go back. But in this period, peace and harmonieous living [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chaij conditions will not be established among the people. The main root cause· of the problem What does this indicate? Every time will not be removed. Every time a riot takes when the riots tale place, people from either place. the Govemment, the administration the minority community or the majorcommu- and the political set up do not try to find the nity are killed and injured. They lose their solution of this problem in our country. property. 1)leir living condition is also changed because of communal riots. Recently in the Hindi belt particularly like Delhi, UP, Madhya Pradesh, Bihar and What is the tendency of the Govern- Gujarat, communal riots are on the increase. ment? Immediately anerthecommunal riots. Why? It is because of irresponsible and police go there. It works as a fire brigade inefficiency of Administration of Government approach. Police will come, stay there for a and due to and provocative speeches of 523 Disc. fB. MAY 2.1989 Communal Situation 524

[Dr. G. Vijaya Rama Rao] eating the people. bring changes in the administrative set up as well as in the politi- some of the political and religious leaders. cal set up, communal disturbances will not this innocent, ignorant and poor people are be rooted out from our country. misguided and they participate in the com- munal riots. This does not happen in one In places where riots take place, what is community alone. It is happening in both the the anatomy, what is the predisposing fac- communities--Hindus and Muslims. Some tor? Mostly the local political leaders have organisations among Hindus like Vishwa been involved in these riots. Immediately Hindu Parishad, Shiv Sena and ASS, have after the riots, whenever our Government continuously been creating communal ten- has instituted an inquiry through a Commis- dencies. They have been organising the sion. every time the Commission's Aeport people for communal thinking and they have points out a particular political party. Also, not been advocating for secular thinking. the Government never tries to take action People have therefore, bee separated. iden- against the people who are found to be tified and provoked because of these com- involved in the riots or in the communal munal organisations. disturbances. On the other hand. every time for the sake of getting votes, those people The political set uP. the administrative have been encouraged. they have been set uP. since beginning. has not been advo- awarded and. therefore, the riots are in- cating for secular thinking. Even those who creasing day by day. Particularly in Andhra speak of secularism, in practical life will not Pradesh, till six years back, every six months, follow the secular tendencies. Every time every three months, there used to be com- they preach for secularism whereas in their munal riots in Hyderabad city. But after the practicailife, they will be practising religious Telugu Desam party came into power in thinking. Even in government functions. 1983, the local government has been able to whether it is a fundion of the Central Gov- control the communal riots in Hyderabad city ernment or of a State Government. pooja is because of their rigid action, because of a performed. Ministers belong to Hindu relig- perfect administrative set up. In Hyderabad ion, while going to inaugurate some govern- city, the communal riots have come down, ment fundion, will do pooja there. This type whereas in U.P. or in Gujarat or in Bihar or of pooja also will provoke the people belong- Delhi they are not coming down rather they ing to other religions. This will create a feel- are going up day by day. So, what I would ing of disoomfort among them. So, this type plead with the Minister is that unless you of activities from our administration side, maintain rapport and harmony among the from our political side should be discarded people, and you educate the people, have a permanently. Not only this, even the student good political set up, as well as good admin- in schools and colleges and other youth istrative set up which will work for secularism sedions also were separated every time by and thus this disease will be rooted out from the adm inistrative set up. This type of activity our country. has also to be discarded so that in future the younger generation will not get attracted [ Translation] towards religious tendencies. In future. it can only be checked up when the individual SHAI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT political leaders or the individual administra- (Nagpur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, commu- tive officers leave religious type of thinking nal riots have always been a matter of great and they throw out the views on pro-cas- concern in the House and have always been teism from there mind and dissociate them- debated seriously here. Every time the view selves from religious organisations, then only of each hone Member has been that this is people also will not leave their religious going to be the last such incidence. Past is tendencies. I am of the firm opinion that past and now we should make all efforts to unless you rectify the root cause. like edu- avoid such oommund riots in the country. 525 Disc. fS. VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Communal Situation 526

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would very leaders from every community not to indulge humbly like to submit the reason behind in undesirable activities. You may visit communal riots. Unless mutual affection is Ayodhaya and see for yourself.Our history is developed, each individual enjoys freedom very ancient and I do not want to delve into and we share common views, a solution to it. However in the present circumstances, these riots cannot be found. There is a need thousands of people are visiting that place to develop brotherly affection among the and all religious practises are being ob- people of every community and caste. Only served there. Do you want to destroy Ram then can this violence and the agony of Janrna Bhoorni and put an end to the prayers? people be done away with. It is possible that this will give rise to a great deluge. Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. we cannot Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the trauma of interfere there (Interruptions) I am only partition looms large even today. We have speaking of what is absolutely correct. learnt a lot from the sufferings caused by the partition of India. A agree that the com· SHRI EBRAHIM SULAIMAN SAlT munalists never leave even a singJe oppor· (Manjeri): The stand of your party is different tunity to mislead the innocent, poor. illiterate and you are indulging in communal propa· people. I would like to remind you of an ganda. incidence a few days ago-a rally of Babri Masjid was held at Boat Club in Delhi and if SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: This we go through the speeches delivered by has nothing to do with communal propa· their leaders which were published in the ganda. I do not believe in hearsay. I am only newspapers, we feel extremely ashamed. speaking what is right. I have myself gone Such things should not happen and should there and see this and my submission is that be banned. Is it proper to say that the Con· you have not even visited that place. Had stitution would be burnt? Should such you visited Ayodhaya as you would have speeches be delivered in independent In- never stated that it can be converted into dia? Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. all this is very mosque? (Int8rruptions) wrong. SHAI SYED SHAHABUDDIN (Kishan- Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. I would like to ganj): There is no question of converting it submit that a new issue viz. Ram Janma into mosque. it is mosque (/nt9rruptions) Bhoomi has come up. The issue is whether that place is Ram Janma Bhoomi or Babri SHAI BANWAAI LAl PUROHIT: You Masjid and efforts are being made to spread cannot silence me by raising the pilch of your that tension in each village of the oountry. voice. You will have to agree with what is The masses should remain vigilant against truth. [Interruptions] it. I would like to ask as to what was the need to give undue importance to the Ayodhaya [English] issue. An idol of God is there and is worshi· pad with deep reverence and great devolu- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order. or- tion. The case was taken to the court after der. I am not allowing. Mr. Shahabuddin. which it was unlocked and the devotees now what is this? go to worship there. What is the cause of creating hue and cry there? If the Hindus and Muslims in Ayodhaya live with harmony and have no ill-feeling. then what is the cause of raising such hue and cry? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will call you after this. You speak after this. This should be avoided as it is danger· ous for the country. I appear to all the hon. (Interruptions) -Not recorded. 527 Disc. reo MAY 2,1989 Communal Situation 528

[ Translation] advocating the cause of either the Hindus or the Muslims. I am speaking in this august SHRI BANWARILAL PUROHIT: I am House. . requesting that there is no need to interfere in my speech. My speech is continuing and So much of hypocrisy exists inourpres- he can speak on his turn. ant-day society. H Banwari Lal Purohit fa- vours the Shahi Imam it is called secularism (English] but if he favours the Hindu Dharamguru Jagatguru Shankaracharya it is called com- SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDDIN: He is munalism. This is how society sees it. And preaching communalism. (Interruptions) this is the sort of perception that shoutd be abandoned. We have to face the facts. (Inter- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: h is Parlia- ruptions) I am speaking to the hon. Member ment; it is not a public platform. most humbly.

( Intenvptions) SHAI SYEO SHAHABUDDIN: Howean the idol remain, inside a mosque? SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDDIN: He has made a false allegation in the House. SHRI BANWARI LAl PUROHIT: I have made myself quite clear. When Pakistan [ Translation1 was created, and the country was divided.

SHRI BANWARILAl PUROHIT: This SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDOIN: Is this a is not wrong. (Interruptions) form of revenge for the creation of Pakistan? Win every mosque be made into a temple? [English] SHRIBANWARILAlPUROHIT: Please MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You refute it listen to what I have to say. when you get your turn. SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDDIN: It is not [ Trans/ation] fit to be listened to. so you may please sit down. What you are saying is not true. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: As an hon. Member of this august House I enjoy SHRI BANWARllAL PUROHIT: He is the rightto express my views and no one ean using unparliamentary language. After Par- debar me from this right. (Interruptions) tition, Pakistan became an Islamic republic When Pakistan was created. thousands of Mr. Deputy-Speaker Sir. these were the temples there, were demolished. In the few people who had said althe Boat Club thatthe that were reft. the idols have been removed Constitution should be burnt. How the times and pictures have been kept in their place. have changedt Where there should have been love. people indulge in these things. [English] This has become the order of the day in this country. (/ntenuptions) SHRI G.M. BANATWAlLA (Ponnani): Is that the answer to Partition. SHRI EBRAHIM SULAIMAN SAlT: Please do not make incorrect statements. [ Translation] Tell us what the hon. Prime Minister says. SHRI EBRAHIM SULAfMAN SAlT: Do SHAI BANWARILAL PUROHIT: I am they want to take revenge? not speaking as a member of any party but as a patriotic citizen of this country. I am not ( Interruptions)- -Not recorded. 529 Disc. reo VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Communal Situation 530

[Eng/ish] SHRI EBRAHIM SULAIMAN SAlT: He - is defaming the Government, defaming the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Whatever Prime Minister, defaming the secularism ..... he says will not go or record. SHRI BANWARILAL PUROHIT: ,.rot at all. My views are very clear. (lntsffuptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You speak, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am giving when your tum comes. you chance. You can also refute it. He is making his point. H there is anytfling unpar- (Intsrruptions) liamentary or anything like that, I would not allow it to go on record. That is the kind of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, procedure. Please do not interrupt when a please. Member is speaking. You may not agree with what he ways... ( Interruptions)

[ Translation] ( Interruptions)

SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: I shall MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: But if every- speak only when order is restored. body goes on speaking like this, wha! can I do; then why am I here? [English] ( Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please, Order. When our Members are not able to MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You csn control themselves here, what about the object or refute it. do not get so angry and situation outside? I cannot understand. Here infuriat9d. itself, I am finding that Members are shouting at each other and there are a lot of interrup- I also request the hon. Members when tions. I request the hone Members to be very they are putting their points :lot go get unfu- patient. riateel.

( Interruptions) Shri Banwari Lal Purohit.

SHAI G.M. BANAlWALLA: Is it the [ Translation] official stand of the Government? SHAI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: Mr. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Deputy-Speaker Sir, I was saying that thou- MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS' (SHRI sands of tf'mples have been demolished but SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): He is giving his the temple OT lord Rama and where lord individual opinion. Aam& was born .. ( Interruptions)

(lnt(Jnvptions) SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDOIN: Have you got any proof in support of your ar:gu- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please, ment? What you are saying is not true. Order. What is there? SHRI BANWARI tAL PUROHIT: You go and see for yourself. Daily ·puja'is be:ng (/ntBnvptions) performed at that place. (/ntenvptions) .. Pujas' are being performed overtherp since MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Let him the last 50 years. You are welcome to go continue there and see it for yourqelf. 531 Disc. re. MAY 2, 1989 Communal Situation 532

SHR1 EBRAHIM SULAIMAN SAlT: A temple that comes up and vice versa An mosque has been there for the past 50 application is sent in at first and if it is years .. (Interruptions) .. rejected. encroachment is made. New temples, mosques, churches and gu· SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: The rudwaras are coming up while older temples, reason behind this problem and the resultant mosques and gurudwaras are decaying for communal tension ... ( Interruptions) ... want of proper maintenance. The Govern- ment should impose a total ban on establish- SHAI EBRAHIM SULAIMAN SAlT: It is ment of new places of worship. If need be people like you who create such problems. only the Chief Minister of a State should be authorised to grant permission for a new SHRIBANWARILALPUROHIT: Please place of worship. This will also put an end to do not cast such baseless aspersions. I shall wirtful use of places of worship for non- certainly say what is correct ar.d you cannot religious purposes. What were the reasons stop me from doing so. You can have your behind the recent riots in Bombay? New say when you get an opportunity to speak. leaders like Haji Mastaan are coming up. You helve "10 business to disturb the pro- The pe~ple have accepted Haji Mastaan as ceedings of the HO:.Jse their leader...

Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir. speaking on SHAt SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Who are the "Ram Janmabhoomi issue I wC'uld say these people? that it is the birthplace of Lord Rama and of religi.)us sanctity for 800/~ of Hindus. So 1 SHAI HARISH RAWAT: His finger is re'-ll.!~)st the hone Members not to blow the pointing at members of the Janata Oal and iSSU9 out of proportion (Interruptions) We not at the members of the Janata Party otter. see loudspeakers installed in temples ( Interruptions) and mosques in small villages competing with each other. If a mosque has a !oud- SHR! BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: It is speaker the temple in the neighbourhood your indifferent attitude that has led the people will also have a Icudspeaker and both try to to follow such lead~rs. Haji Mastaan has outdo each other in terms of sheer volume. formed his own Party and is going around This matl~1)f has been discussed here before trying to enhance his politica~ image. This is and I had clearly said that permission should dangerous and steps should be taken to deal not given for taking out religious proces- with it. sions. And there is no need to USft a loud- speaker when 'pujas are being !)erformed. The third point is the influx of funds, be Religious rituals in temples. mosques and it from any source. Funds are received by the gurudwaras should best be done in a noise- Vishwa Hindu Parishad and other such insti- free atmosphere. Processions are another tutions from various sources. But I have major cause of communal clashes. There reliable information to the effect that funds can never be a ~eeling of brotherhood unless received from abroad by religious and edu- a religious procession has representatives cational institutions are being misused. These of all communities, Theil there will net be any funds are used to increase tension between possibility of riots breaking out. For this con.munities and between castes. This purpose the uovernment should make a rule matter should be thoroughly investigated that in a religious procession taken out by and we should beware of foreign money that one community there must be a SOk to 100/0 is sent into our country with a dubious mo- representation of every other community. tive. As t,as been proved several times the The placet; of worship have beCOMe He maximum tension exists at the Pakistan greatest breeding ground for communal border. Some foreign countries want te tension. These days in villages it has be- destabilize India through internal strife. And comti a trend 10 establish a mosque for e',ery for this they are supplying arms, ammuni- 533 Disc. f'9. VAISAKHA 12, 1911 (SAKA) Communal Situation 534 tion, cash and even tracing facilities so that was not to hutt their feelings. What f meant a rift is created between castes and commu- to say was that it is not a conflict over a nities. May I know from the Government as temple and a mosque but the interests of the to who are these foreign elements and what country are at stake. You should not take it are the sources of funds from abroad'? Which otherwise and act a bit prudently. It is not is the border through which all this comes merely a question of temple or a mosque but into the country and why has that border not there are one or two major issues. There are been sealed as yet? We would certainly like thousands of other mosques where they can to know the answers to these questions. pray. One temple has beoome the centre of dispute and people are prepared to shed Lastly. 'want to say that when we talk of blood for it. which is not at all good, as it is the Education Policy, the Constitution says detrimental our national interests. There- that our countty should make progress fore. I wOlolid request you to end this conflict. through secularism. This means that all re- The present practice of worship should con- ligious, be it Hinduism. Islam or Christianity, tinue. If the local people desire. the Govern- be given equal status. Secularism means ment should sanction Rs. one crore from the religious tolerance. So why should there be public exchequer and construct a splendid different rules for different religions? This is and grand mosque on 2·3 acrss of Govsrn- a serious matter. We talk of our country ment land three km. a.way from the place of being independent and we talk of having a dispute as we do not have any objection to secular outlook. So there shoulo be a com- that ... mon law for a" Indian citizens whether they are Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims or Christians. H (lnterruptio..,s) separate laws are enacted for every religion our daim ~f secularism will prove to be SHRI EBRAHIM SULAIMAN SAlT: hollow. Now time has come when we should Temple can also be constructed at dis:ance think over this matter seriously. I would like of tlueEt kITIS from the place 01 dispute. to say in this august HOUSe that the Govern- ment should also take steps in t.,is dire<.-1ion SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: You so that there may be ::>arity and equality have personally seen that worship is being among all religions. what has been said performed thttre. H ad you not seen it person- about the minority is also tr ue. It is the duty ally, it would have been a different thing. I am of th3 Governmept to protect the minority of the opinion that Government should seeft and their pfaces of worship at every cost. Not the sanction of Rs. e"ne crore from the Parlia- the Government alona but the majority ment to construct a new, unique mosq:Je of c()mmunity should also share this responsi- excellent craftsmanship wl1ere prayers could b:lity. The Government as well as every be offered in peace. We do not have any citizen of the cou niry are responsible to look objection it Government gives them land after the welfare of minority community. also. It is my suggestion and I reques: you to Besidas , would also like to say that tne elder accept it and pay attention to brother alone is not respons!ble but the it .... ( Interruptions) younger brother is also equally responsible. He should pay due regard and not hurt the [English] feelings of the elder. :1 is our ancient culture ,. which we have inherited. I have said earlier MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER. No interrup- als\) that it is a question of feelings. Commu- tions. I have cailed Shri Banatwalia. nal riots create enmity among communities. The ~nmity can be wiped 0lP. from the soci- ( Interruptions) ety !f we live am icably and cordially and do not become violent ill our behaviour. Once SHAI G.M. BA~!ATWALLA (Ponnani): again I would like to teU those hon. Members Mr. Deputy- Speaker, Sir. it is with gr~at who got annoyed with me that my intention an,uish and pain that' rise to participato in 535 Disc. reo MAY 2. 1989 Communal Situation 536 [She G.M. BanatwaJla) responsible for that. this discussion on communal violence In ·Jai Hind. Jai Hindu· several parts of our country. I have repeat- 'Hindu Sena- edly been asking tor a discussion on this issue in this current session. I even wrote a [English] detailed letter to the hone Home Minister Mr. Buta Singh. It is our misfortune that we could What has the intelligence been doing secure the discussion only after the escala- when all these posters were being printed. tion of violence. when locks were being put on as many as five mosques in Faizabad. U. P.? I, therefore, VIOlence has recently enguned Mathura. say that the situation is a serious situation Aligarh. Kalpi near Kanpur in U.P., Hazar- and there is hardly any effective aaion against ibagh in Bihar. Burhanpur and Bhopal in the misaeants. This has encouraged com- Madhya Pradesh, Makrana and 8igod in munal elements. The negligence of the Rajasthan. Dhulia in Maharashtra and sev- administration to the building up of tension eral other places. I must emphasise that all by fQrC8S like Bajrang Oal. Veshwa Hindu the~e riots are part of a sinster conspiracy to Parishad. RSS is criminal and inexcusable. disturb the communal peace far and wide. There are already declaration of ·Dharm Take the situation at Mathura. We had Yudli. The objective is-and we had a just visited that place also and it is our demonstration right now-to frighten Mus- considered view that the nots at Mathura lims in preparation for demolition of Sabri were an outcome of planning by the Bajrang Masjid and construction of temple in Novem- Oal and V.shwa Hindu Parishad and derelic- ber,1989. tion of duties by the police and administra- tion. This thif"g is very clear from the inci- dencethat we are having today. Take Faiza- At Kumbh Me/a recently. there were bad for example. The communal folqts there open provocations and it was openly de- declared Yudh Maha Yudhand had even the clared that attempl would be made to 50- audacity to put locks on as many as fIVe called lberate even the Shahi Idgah at mosques in Faizabad. During the night be- Mathura as it is Krishna Janambhoomi tween 25th and 25th March, 19SQ, the Hindu Bajrang Dell and Vishwa Hindu Parishad Sena Incked up MasJid Tat Shah. locks vitiated the atmosphere at Mathura. There were also put on Madina Masjid. Jinn210n were provocative slogans ° 1 repeat those Wali MasJid. Masjid Kanghi Gali, Masjid slogans which were raised and it was put up Qasab;MJra. The hone Members from Nagpt!r on the walls of Mathura. woo was just now speaking has sought to turn a Nelson's eye to all this state of affairs. [ Translation] Mosques were locked and then posters were put there. I quote what W&s written on those -Ramjanam bhoomi hamari hai, ab posters. I quote: Mathura ki bar; har (Ramj:tnam bhoomi is ours and [ Translation] now it is tum of Mathura) [English] In the grip of blood staiNK! claNS of There were slogans on the wall. every- muslim fundE':nentalists our rntnhertand is where. The slogan saying: wailing and writhing in pain. It demands sac- rifices. Now. there wiD be )0 udha and Ma- [ TlanSlation] hayudha to free the rvli(ious piaces. The Govemment of India who wanlstosell:Sharcd Hindi rashtra btl" kar rah6ga. Hin- and Bhsr8t at the hands of Muslims wi. be duon ke /iye hai Hindustan 537 Disc. re. VAISAKHA 12. 1911 (SAKA) Communal Situation 538

(There 'will definitely be a Hindu What I am submitting is thatthe pattern nation. Hindustan is for Hindus) of communal violence everywhere is almost the same-whether it is Kalpi in UP or Bur- [English] hanpuror Bhopal in Madhya Pradesh. There was tension built up, there were grave provo- All these provocations go on; and our cations, the riots were pre-planned on the administration, our police, our Government occasion of Ram Navami. snores. I must say that this communal violence A Krishna Janam Bhoomi Mukti Sena which we recently had was a gift of the was formed. On 1st March 1989 a joint Hedgewar Centenary Celebrations. The delegation of Hindus and Muslims at Mathura violence was aided and abetted by the fail- "at the District Magistrate and brought all ure of the police to take preventive measures ,~se things to his notice. This joint delega- and because of the police conniving at vio- tion of Hindus and Muslims submitted a lence. I say that this violence on account of etition, made a representation to the Dis- Ram Janam Bhoomi is a gift of the centenary trict Magistrate. But there was hardly any celebrations that were being made through- action or any preventive measure from the out the country of Dr. Hedgewar. Here I may administration. say that during these celebrations through- out the country there were a spate of meet- After Maharashtra, Mr. Bal Thakeray ings. what was going on in the meetings? I Iso tried to make Mathura his target. He quote from the Indian Express dated April vas to visit Mathura and preparations started 17, 1989 about a Bombay meeting, I quote to occupy the Idgah. Throughout, all this the report: time, when all this was going on at Mathura, the police and the administration was negli- ''The theme throughout the three gent. There was no preventive measures hour proceedings was RSS role in and as a result, from 16th to 18th April, the strengthening Hindu society and in " jrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad let retaining the identity of the land as ose a spate of violence. a Hindu nation."

There was an attemptto instal an idol in So, the call for Hindu Rashtra voiced by the S op which was the property of Jama RSS, which was a call in wildness till about .gjid. The Hon. Member who had just two or three years ago has now acquired a ooken should know all these-things of what new militancy and belligerency. This is con- 'S ~appening. We cannot put them under the -sequentto a vigorous propaganda reinforced et. The result at Mathura was that nearly with rancor against the minority. The Gov- ;'R shops were looted and burnt, seven ernment has unfortunately developed cold Mosques were badly damaged and copies feet and there is hardly any action. ,} the Holy Quran were burnt, Imams of two Mosques were badly injured, one of them Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, look at what is oeingiired' upon. happening in Rajasthan. We have had sev- eral riots in Rajasthan. Recently at Makrana There are allegations that the police there was violence. At Makrana, for a long a chsd at certain places fourto seven hours time, there was vicious propaganda and not "1ter. Despite the fact thatthere was no early a single wall in Makrana was left without i ventive action by the police, even if the provocative slogans aqainst the minority. , olice bandobast had been made effective Violence erupted on 23rd March. Butthe !lfterthe burst of violence on the 16th April at beginning of the violence was as early as in Mathura, perhaps the violence the next day February. There was a Hindi Weekly by the IIJ en most of the damage took place could name "Geosohra". In February, it published ave been averted. an ArtiCle in favour of Sal man Rushdie, in 539 Disc. reo MAY 2, 1989 Communal Situation 540 [She G.M. Banatwalla] wave-length as the communal groups'. most unabashed language and published most provocative and filthy stuff. Thera was This passage deserves to be repeated an agitation. Police arrested the Editor and and I repeat: after three days, he was released and then that Editor undertook a "Padyatra' along with 'It can be safely said that major one Mr. Banwarilal Rat Purohit. One ban- flare-ups occur when the adminis- daged arm of the Editor was displayed eve- trative personnel are at the wave rywhere and provocative speeches were length as the communal groups'. made. There were miscreants, provocating against the Muslim minority. But the admini- Several judicial reports, the Report of stration was, as usual, in a state of deep the Minorities Commission, Amnesty Inter- slumber. Then the resutt was violence where national Report have all exposed this 'wave- hundreds of crores worth property were lost. length'. Instances abound which expose this Today. the damage that has been made over 'wave-length' which is there between the there, is so great, that we cannot even imag- administration and the communalists. ine it. How many places am I to refer to, in order to point out that the pattern is the 18.00 hrs. same? There is another place in Rajasthan called Bigod. At Bigod police was a silent Sir, in Hazariba~h. for example, we have spectator when the mosque was being dese- found the same wave-length. Violence was crated and then blaming the Muslims, there pre-planned with administration and the were indiscriminatory arrests. Even Muslim police looking the other side. women were insulted and badly treated by the police itseH. long before the violence almost every well in Hazaribagh carried the following slo- SHRt GIRDHARILAl VYAS (Bhilwara): gan: It is totally wrong. "Hindu Jaga to desh jagega Bharat SHRt G.M. BANATWAlLA: These are Hindu rashtra hai.· facts which are there. You cannot shut your eyes to this. I must stress that unless and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The hon. until the police and the administration take Member may continue with his speech to- up their duties with sincerity and impartiality, morrow. The House stanc4s adjoumadto re- peace is difficult to be established. assemble at 11.00 a.m. on Wednesday, th( 3rd May, 1989. Sir. let me here quote what Mr. D.R. Goyal has said: 18.01 hr••

'It can be safely said that major The Lo/( Sabha then adjourned till Eleven flare-ups occur when the adminis- of the Clock on Wednesday, May 3, 19G trative personnel are at the same Vaisakha 13, 1911 (Saka).

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