Mill Valley Oral History Program A collaboration between the Mill Valley Historical Society and the Mill Valley Public Library RICHARD DILLON An Oral History Interview Conducted by Carol Wilson in 2000 © 2000 by the Mill Valley Public Library TITLE: Oral History of Richard Dillon INTERVIEWER: Carol Wilson DESCRIPTION: Transcript, 14 pp. INTERVIEW DATE: February 18, 2000 Born on January 16, 1924 in Sausalito, Richard “Dick” Dillon attended Central School in Sausalito and Tamalpais High School. He was drafted right after Pearl Harbor and sent to Europe where he was wounded, hospitalized, sent back to the front, and wounded a second time. Richard earned his master’s degree from UC Berkeley, taught at several universities, and eventually became the Sutro Librarian. In 1950, he married Barbara Allester, with whom he had three children. Richard was a Milley Award recipient for his long career in writing and teaching. He authored several books, the first of which was Embarcadero. In this oral history, Richard describes daily life in Mill Valley, attending the local schools, memories of local residents and shops, the 1929 fire, and his experience in the service during World War II. ii Oral History of Richard Dillon Index Addeo, Ed…p.13 Burke, Alice Mabel (Mother)…p.1-2,4-5,10-11 Central School (Sausalito)…p.2 Dillon, Barbara Allester (wife)…p.7,9,12 Dillon, Brian (son)…p.12-13 Dillon, David (son)…p.12-13 Dillon, Eugene “Gene” (brother)…p.2 Dillon, John A. “Jack” (brother)…p.2 Dillon, Ross (son)…p.12-13 Dillon, William “Bill” (brother)…p.2 Dillon, William Tarleton (father)…p.1-5 "Duke" (nickname)…p.3 George, John R. (teacher)…p.3,11 grandchildren…p.12-13 Hayakawa, Sam…p.13 Hogan, Bill…p.13 Hub Theater…p.5-6 Inverness Park…p.5 Jolly Beach (Cronkhite)…p.4 Military Service -World War II…p.6-10 Milley Award…p.12 Pearl Harbor Day…p.6 San Francisco, California…p.1-2,6,10,11 Sausalito, California…p.1-2,4-6,10-11 Stump, Vera…p.3 Sutro Library…p.11 Tamalpais High School…p.2-3,11 University of California, Berkeley…p.2,6,10,11 University of Hawaii…p.12 University of San Francisco…p.11-12 Wasserman, Abby…p.3 Wasserman, John…p.3 Wasserman, Louis…p.3,11 iii Oral History of Richard Dillon February 18, 2000 Carol Wilson: I am Carol Wilson and today is February 18, 2000. I am at the home of Richard H. Dillon at 98 Alta Vista Avenue here in Mill Valley. Mr. Dillon is a longtime Mill Valley resident and he lives here with his wife Barbara. Let me start by congratulating you for receiving the 1999 Milley Award. I would also like to thank you for having me here today to interview you for the Mill Valley Historical Society. Where were you born, Dick? Richard Dillon: I was born in Sausalito on January 16, 1924 at 524 Johnson Street which is now 508 Johnson Street and the house is completely remodeled so you wouldn’t recognize the place. Carol Wilson: Was that the family home? Richard Dillon: Yes, that was my mother and father’s home and I was born there. I would like to say that there is no historical plaque denoting the occasion as they have in England. Carol Wilson: How did your parents happen to come to Sausalito? Richard Dillon: My father was in the military. He was a career soldier and was stationed at Fort Baker and Fort Barry, so he lived in Sausalito. He married my mother who lived in Sausalito and they set up housekeeping there. My father was born in Watertown, Wisconsin. My mother was born in Chicago, Illinois so they were both Mid-Westerners. My father’s name was William Tarleton Dillon. He was called “Captain” after he retired. My mother’s name was Alice Mabel Burke. She always went by Mabel. She did have kin in Mill Valley, but I can’t remember their names. My parents were married in Sausalito and they lived in small quarters at Fort Baker. My father was a non-commissioned officer, I think. I remember seeing the house, but it is gone now. My father was a career army officer. My mother was very sharp and intelligent, but I don’t think she went to college. She did attend Girls’ High and Lowell High School in San Francisco. She commuted from Petaluma, where she lived with her father, to San Francisco. She then worked in the City during the earthquake and fire. She had a story about going to the City after the earthquake to her office to rescue some things from her desk. She was a typist, or what they called a “typewriter”. She couldn’t make it through the tumbled-down bricks and dead cows. Apparently, they used to drive the cattle in from Butcher Town and it was a real mess. Carol Wilson: Was there a ferry from Petaluma to San Francisco? Richard Dillon: No, there was not. I recall that her father was in the fruits and vegetable business, but my niece thinks that he was in pickling business in Petaluma. I think that my mother ordered vegetables from the City and had them shipped to her father. So she did commute on the ferries from Sausalito. My father was an electrician as a very young man in Wisconsin. He went to the Army during the Spanish-American War and then to the Boer War, illegally as an American. He was 1 fighting with the Boers as an Irish-American against the British. At that point he changed his name. My real name should be Dervin. What he did was change his name when he was with the Boer Forces. Somewhere in my papers I have a Change of Name document of 1899 signed by a cornet, which I believe was a second lieutenant in the Boer army. My father took his mother’s name, so there was not much difference. Carol Wilson: Why did he do that? Richard Dillon: I believe it was illegal for an American citizen to go over there and fight for someone else. However, my son went to Ireland this summer and he said that apparently a lot of the people there changed their names often for some social or business reasons, not criminal. Quite often they take the other side of the family’s name. My maternal side of the family’s name is Dillon and my paternal side’s name is Dervin. We are all Dillons now, but should be Dervins. My father served in our Army during World War I and was gassed. When we were young, we used to visit him at Letterman Hospital in the Presidio. Some of my early memories were of taking the ferryboat from Sausalito to San Francisco to visit my father. I remember on those trips we would stop at a little coffee shop at the end of the streetcar line near the Presidio. I always had a fried egg sandwich, which was my favorite when I was eight or nine years old. Carol Wilson: Was your father hospitalized a long time? Richard Dillon: Yes, he suffered from mustard gas poisoning. He died in 1938 when I was fourteen. Carol Wilson: Did you have any brothers or sisters? Richard Dillon: Yes, I had three brothers. John A. Dillon, known as Jack, lives here in Mill Valley. Eugene, who was the next to me in age, died in Fresno. I was the baby. William, known as Bill, was the oldest and he is no longer living. Bill was an F.B.I. agent, Jack was a banker, Gene was a teacher and I am a librarian and writer. Carol Wilson: What schools did you attend? Richard Dillon: I went to Central School in Sausalito. I remember playing on that field and attending the classes in the schoolhouse above the playground. I am glad to say that the building is still there and now houses the Library, City Hall and the Sausalito Historical Society. They have done a nice job on the old building. After Central School, I went to Tamalpais High School. It was wonderful commuting on the Northwestern Pacific electric trains. I went there from 1937 to 1941. I went to University of California at Berkeley in 1941 and when the war started, I received a deferment until I received and A.A. degree. By going double semesters, I was able to get two years done early. I received my A.A. degree in February of 1943 and was immediately drafted. 2 Carol Wilson: Do you remember any special teachers at Tamalpais High School? Richard Dillon: Oh, yes. There were two teachers at Tam that I mentioned at the Milley Awards. One was Louis Wasserman, a teacher I remember well. He was a great teacher. He taught public speaking, which included vocabulary and how to quiet your fears in front of an audience. He had such high standards. His course was like a college course and I was impressed with it. His daughter, Abby Wasserman is active in the Milley Awards and she is the editor and publications person at the Oakland Museum. His son, John, was the famous jazz critic at the Chronicle. Another wonderful teacher was John R. George who was our journalism teacher and adviser on the school paper. I wrote an awful Herb Caen-like column called “Rumah Hazzit” for the Tam News. Carol Wilson: The Tam News was wonderful, wasn’t it? Richard Dillon: Of course, we made it that way.