Friday, July 8, 1977 Asadha 17, 1899 (Saka) LOK SABHA DEBATES (Series) v o l. m [June 23 to July 4, 1977/Asadha 2 to 13, 1899 (Saks)] ***<**> Second Session, i*77/i*9J (Saka) (Vol. I l l contains Nos. 11 to 20) L O K SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI CONTENTS N o. 24, Friday, July S, lyjjlAtadha 17, 1899 (Saka) C olumns Oral Answers to Questions : V ♦Starred Questions Nos. 385 to 388 ' . 1— 28 Short Notice Question No. 1 4 ..................................................... 28________ 36 Written Answers to Questions : Starred Questions Nos. 389 to 4 0 4 ...........................................36— 59 Unstarred Questions Nos. 2873 to 2884, 2886 to 2912 and 2914 to 3 0 1 2 ............................................................................................... 59— 187 Papers laid on the Table ................................................................ 187— 88 Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance— Reported swindling of crores of rupees by exchanging at the Reserve Bank of India mutilated currency notes meant for destroying . 189— 200 Leave o f Absence from the sittings o f the House 200 Personal Explanatio 1 by Minister o f Railways re. alleged use o f Rail­ way stationery l>y a private publishing house .... 199— 202 Demands for Grants, 1977-78— Ministry o f Industry ............................................................... 202— 270 Shri George F e r n a n d e s ............................................................... 204— j 5 Shri K. P. U n n ik ris h n a n ............................................................... 219— 31 Shri Madhu Limaye ............................................................... 231— 51 Shri K. V e n k a t a r a m a n ............................................................... 251— 61 Shri George Mathew ....... 261— 67 Shri Sushil Kumar Dhara . 267— 70 Committee on Private Members’ Bills and Resolutions— First Report .......................................... 270— 71 ♦ •The sign + marked above the name o f a Member indicates that the guestion was actually askel on the floor of the House by that Member. Columns Resolution re. Subversion of Democratic norms by the Former Prime M i n i s t e r ..............................................................................................271— 328 Shri Hari Vishnu K am ath .............................................................. 272— 87 Shri Chandrasekhar S i n g h ...............................................................290— 97 Shri Vasant S a t h e .........................................................................297— 305 Dr. Subramaniam S w a m y .............................................................. 306— 15 Shri Somnath C h a t t e r j e e .............................................................. 315— 25 LOK SABHA t>EBATES •I 2 LOK SABHA (d) whether the said three posts have now been filled and if sof by whom, when and how? Friday, July 8, 1977/Asadha 17, 1898 (SaJca) gvrtrnr :(t) & (^). iftim tjqT % TOTOT ar The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock T^T ^ JTT fajjftrT I % ^T- srara %o afU [Mh. S peaker in the Chair] % srfHfacr ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 1 1 ™6— 77 ^ trifT % SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA TT ^ I tniT ^T (Delhi Sadar): Sir, we want to con­ gratulate you ... % f t —tJTl-9-76 1-76— ff5TT*ft<TSf I MR. SPEAKER: Not now. I am still the Speaker. V i t t T^Tftrrrfnfr THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS % ***** if qr (PROF. MADHU DANDAWATE): On f^ T T falfT 3|T T^T ^ I your success as Speaker. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am happy to have got Vacant Posts in Indian Airlines priority number one today. May I respectfully offer you our felicitations and wish you the best in your new •885. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: and onerous duties at Rashtrapati Will the Minister of TOURISM AND Bhfiwan... CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: MR. SPEAKER: You can do so on (a) whether the posts of Chairman Wednesday when I tender my resigna­ and Managing Director as also two tion. Deputy Managing Directors of Indian Airlines are vacant for quite some PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: time, without any permanent incum­ Before I ask my two supplementaries, bent on them; let me also, before you leave the Chair, seek your protection today at (b) if so, full facts thereof; least. I find that the Minister’s reply to my question—I do not attribute' (c) the reasons for not filling these any motive^is put in such a way important top positions promptly; that a number of important points ol and information arising out of my original 1314 LS— r. 3 Oral Answers JULY 8, 1977 Oral Answers 4 question have been le ft out. So, you Mehta was the Acting Chairman of will have to give me a chance to ask the Indian Airlines Corporation, two four, rather than the usual two, posts of Deputy Managing Directors sup^ementaries today; otherwise, it were not filled up; (c) Is it a fact that will je difficult for me to make him another Deputy Managing Director answer my question. along with Mr. Mehta—I believe his name is Mr. Satyamurthy—was not MR. SPEAKER: In the first made a Member of the Board of supplementary, you may have (a), Directors of the Indian Airlines Cor­ (b) and (c), and in the second supple­ poration and, therefore, he went yn mentary also you may have (a), (b) leave and then left, and that was one and (c). I have never objected to way of keeping Mr. Satyamurthy also that. out so that Mr. Kehta could remain on the top? PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: I am glad you have asked me to do that, Sir. 3T|5T t t <T>o o STTST I may say that I have nothing against this or that individual in the U p R 1-8-73 ^ 31-7-76 cPFrfcr Indian Airlines, because they are all *TFT% fiTTT gm 5 12-4-76 competent officers, but I have raised t t if 7^ I ^80 this matter because it relates to the appointment and conduct of senior- *TT *FT I (w m i* ) SUslsrRf most officials who are involved in *t Sft fH 'M qW JpTT cTff STPT ^ I policy-making and whose decisions and implementation affect the entire work­ ^ft T^TT j? 3T? ing of the Indian Airlines. That is Terr ^ i srnr iff e r r *rJ f e z t why, the individual posts are im­ l f ^ * r mVVTT portant. In view of this, may I ask the Minister whether it is a fact 1 % j® for cr^ JT^f^nr that Air Marshal P. C. Lai, when he if was the Chairman of the Indian Air­ lines, was working very efficiently o o IT^f0 ^Vo ^ PrcftcT ^ and competently, and he brought the fe n 5r*T^ft^r nr°M Indian Airlines to great heights; that ^ fkm 1 fr^zr s m ft r he was haunted out during Emergency somewhere around April, 1976 by (tsf j * * fe=zt $ 3ft f% threatening a CBl inquiry against him; f e r irf rrr It ^ i that, when he left, one of the then Deputy Managing Directors, Mr. ^ f^nrr w t , Mehta, was made Chairman for some months and was confirmed for one *TT vft TOT T^ZX S ^ fcT year as an Acting Chairman in November. 1976; and then Mr. Mehta ^SZE\ *TT ?fk VZZ\ *TT *T f t had seen to it that no post of Deputy feTTT ^ I Managing Director was kept filled so that he, 0n his own, could run the whole show according to his likes and PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: Th* dictates? If that is so, it is a serious Minister has replied to my original matter. So, my first question is (a) question that an officer from Air whether it is a fact that Mr. Mehta India, by name Mr. K. G. Appusamy, did act as Acting Chairman when Air is acting temporarily as Chairman of Marshal Lai was haunted out from the Indian Airlines Corporation besides April 1976 to November 1976 and from continuing in Air India—and both of November 1976 until Mr. Mehta these are large Corporations. He has resigned; (b) Why is it that when Mr also mentioned that two Deputy 5 Oral Answers ASADHA 17, 1899 {SAKA) Oral Answers Managing Directors’ posts are still ^ T T | T T S I W vacant. I would like to know how long the Government will take m TT* faJTT *TtT Ttf^Teft f a q T * ^ 3TT regard to the filling up of the two *f # dr+W 3RT? Rft ^ HT5TT g I posts of Deputy Managing Directors. Secondly when will the new per­ manent Chairman be installed so that SHRI SONU SINGH PATIL: Will the Indian Airlines can work efficient­ the hon. Minister clarify whether it ly; and, thirdly, is it a fact that while is indispensable to have one incumbent Mr. Mehta was Chairman of the Indian for the post of Chairman and Manag­ Airlines Corporation the Corporation ing Director, Indian Airlines and was placing orders directly with the whether it is proper to appoint one ex-Prime Minister’s younger son's person as Chairman and Managing Maruti Aviation Ltd. and was giving Director, because one deals with certain facilities and advantages to policy and the other with execution? the latter with regard to air-craft hangers etc. Was this done by Mr. Mehta, and, was it because of this kind sft : sre cPT *5“JtftPT of dealings with Maruti Aviation Ltd., f i x 3W t tT^r ^ sn?*ft that he was made Chairman, and that no other Deputy Chairman was ft% «r i *tcttt % | fa appointed so that he alone could do 5TTf^ tt tt** tft r whatever he liked? 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