I. i' i ! i 2, I 1· I 11ve John Henrvwl C I 1781-1853 of North Staffordshire and his Descendants. BY PERC-Y~ \\~. L. .J..~D'"~{s .J,... ....-1..~, .l ( A Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries of London) Author of "A History of the Adams Family of North Staffordshire" "The Douglas Family of Morton in Nithsdal,e" •'Notes on N ortk Staffordshire Families " "The Jukes Family of Cound, Sal.op" Contributor to ..Memorials of Old Staffordshire " Sometime Hon. Editor & Sec. of " The Staffordshire Parish Registers Society," dk. I Printed at the Press of l G. T. BAGGULEY at NEWCASTLE in the County of Stafford 1947 I Every generation needs regeneration- C. H. SPURGEON : "Salt Cellars" ~.......- ....,_;_ ~' ., ~,'..~ ,r- . .,--.,.. ~~.. :-_·:· 1781) (1853 DEDICATED TO THE MEMORY OF ROBERT CLEMENT AND MARY CLIVE FOREWORD Some ten years before the death of my parents' old friend, Col. Robert Clement Clive, of Graven­ hunger, W oore, he handed over to me a mass offamily papers, knowing that I had written several f amity histories in my spare moments. I looked through them, but being very busy at the time nothing materialised, and I returned the papers. I, however, did form a scrap of a pedigree, and after his death I passed what I had made out to his son, Col. Harry Clive, of Willoughbridge, who was so much interested that in odd moments I was encouraged to add a good deal more to the account of the family until I was astonished to find it had run into a great many pages. I wish I could have found out more about the immediate parentage of John Henry Clive, born 1781, but certain parish registers are missing at that date, and I can only state what tradition hands down to us. However, there is, we believe, sufficient to be of interest to the general public of North Staffordshire, as well as to the Clive family, and to be well worth recording for a newer generation. I have to thank Col. Harry Clive for help as the book progressed, for re-writing and condensing his great grand/ather' s " Notes on the Origin and Use of Names" ; to Sir Geoffrey Callender, for his help concerning John Henry Clive's " Double Sextant for Observing Lunar Distances" ; to Mrs. Robert X FOREWORD Clive, Mrs. Horace Clive and Miss May Clive, for the loan of old family MSS and books; to the Rt. Hon. the Earl of Powis, the Lady Magdalen Herbert and Miss Mary Newill Owen, of Welshpool, for information concerning the Shropshire family in the eighteenth Century; ·to Mrs. R. W. Heath, of Greenway Bank, Mr. Biddulph and Mrs. Nadin, for help concerning " The Bridestones " and other local history in Biddulph; to my friend, M'r. Aleyn Lyell Reade, for reading the whole for the press and for the Index ; and to my wife for long suffering general help at odd moments, as she had given /or others of my books. To Messrs. Bagguley & Son, Printers and Publishers, Newcastle-under-Lyme, for their care in the production of the book ; Wood, Mitchell & Co., Hanley, for the pedigree, and the Cotswold Publishing Co., Wootton-under-Edge, for the collo­ type illustrations, a difficult job in some instances, for some of the daguerreotypes and old photographs were very faded. The reproductions in those cases very much exceed the originals in their clearness and general appearance. Woore Manor, Shropshire, September, 1946. xii CONTENTS. CHAPTER I. Concerns John Henry Clive (1781-1853), relating the chief events of his life, from such MS.S. as have been handed down and now for the most part in the possession of his various descendantS-His birth in Somersetshire ; his Staffordshire days; back in later life to Somerset-His early work in engraving on copper, at the famous Turner Potteries, Stoke-on­ Trent where his stepfather was a partner-Partnership with Smith Child, Admiral of the Blue, at the Newfield Potteries near Tunstall, and in Collieries-Guardianship of the children of Thomas Cartlich of Sandyford-References to the family of his first wife Lydia Cash, and to the Roylances of Newton Manor, Cheshire, in connection with his second marriage-His pioneer work for the first Town Hall, and public life of Tunstall, and in the Corps of Infantry which were formed in North Staffordshire 1803, a company of which he commanded. His published works, in various editions, from 1810-1830, concerning his new system of Shorthand-Extracts from his MS., note books packed with information for his history of the Clive family-The first Theatre of North Staffordshire, 1820-His invention of a double Sextant for observing" lunar distances" for obtaining a ship's longitude, and Sir Geoffrey Callender' s explanation of it-His property of the 'Bridestones' and its prehistoric megalithic remains-His interest in, and skit of, the Parliamentary Election of 1832-His interest in, and explanation of, the derivation of many local words and phrases, also the origin and use of names-His plan for a Suspension Bridge exhibited at the great Exhibition of 1851- His interest in Metropolitan drainage schemes when living part of the year in London-His diary written in London at the close of his life, revealing his wide interests-His death and burial at Bath, Somersetshire. ... ... page I xiii CONTENTS-(continued). CHAPTER IL Henry Clive (eldest surviving son of John Henry Clive) 1810-1865, of Broomhill, Tunstall, and Moor House, Biddulph, his marriage and large family-Enoch Wedgwood, Master Potter, of Tunstall, his relationship with Josiah Wedgwood the famous 18th century Potter. Mrs. Henry Clive, a lady of strong character-the early death of Henry Clive and his burial at Biddulph-Robert Clement Clive of Gravenhunger, 1846-1930, and his long life of public service-His son Robert, 1878-1944, an eminent Yorkshire Mining Engineer-Harry Clive, C.B., O.B.E., of Willoughbridge-William Bolton Clive of Tunstall (1847-1920) and his family. ... ... page 103 Pedigree of the Clive Family of Huxley & Styche facing page 125 Index ... • •• ••• • •• page 126 . XIV LIST OF ILLUSTRATIONS FYontispiece JoHN HENRY CLIVE (1781-1853) with his signature, in possession of Col. Harry Clive, C.B., D.L., of W illoughbridge. ~h&. ~p Signature of Sarah Clive and Charles Simpson 3 Facing Page II MRs. SARAH CLIVE (1749-1833) afterwards Mrs. Simpson, with her signature. Mother of John _Henry Clive .•. •.. 6 III MARY (1813-1851), elder daughter of John Henry Clive, Mrs. Meir ; and ANNE (1815-1900) second daughter of John Henry Clive, Mrs. ,vm. Kenwright Harvey 10 IV ELIZABETH ROYLANCE CLIVE (1824-1894). and Lucy, her sister (1828-1902) (Mrs. Christopher Smith)... 14 V NEWFIELD HALL. The Seat of the Child family - the home of John Henry Clive from 1813-1824. From an etching for the author by Reginald G. HaggaY, A.R.C.A. F.R.S.A. N.R.D. 18 VI -Sketches by JOHN HENRY CLIVE : Newton Manor, Cheshire, 1823 ; Duke's Drive, Buxton, 1829 ; and Chell House, Staffordshire, 1833 20 VII Staffordshire Volunteer Cavalry Officer, 1798 ; Volunteer Infantry Officer, 1808 •.. 22 VIII The Linear System of SHORT HAND by John Henry Clive, (engraved by himself), his title page, published in London, 1830 •.. 24 IX Plate II from J. H. CLIVE'S Linear System of Shorthand •. •. 26 X Plate I from J. H. CLIVE'S Linear System of Shorthand . •. .• 28 XI Notes from CLIVE'S MS.S. book No. IV., concerning the forbears of the Cartlich family of Sandyford and W oore, with his sketch of SARAH CARTLICH, 1828 ..• 30 xv LIST OF ILLUSTRATIONS. Plate No. Facing Page XII THE WooRE BEAGLES: Minnie and Beatrice Clive Cartlich ; Tom Cartlich, (Huntsman) ; Ahia Taylor, (Whipper in) ; Stanley John Weyman; Sydney Horsfall ; and Mabel Daltry 32 Page Tom Cartlich ; Ahia Taylor ; John Henry Cartlich, (Harry}, Carica.tures 35 Beatrice Clive Cartlich ; Stanley J. Weyman ; Minnie Cartlich, Ca-ricatures 36 Mrs. Tom Cartlich Junior, 1882, and her son, Caricaturts .. • 39 Facing Page XIII Front Page of prospectus of A HISTORY OF THE CLIVE FAMILY, engraved and issued by John Henry Clive, circa 1820 ••• 40 XIV THE CLIVE BRASS, 1572, in the Lady Chapel of Holy Trinity Church, Chester. ... 48 XV Sketches of CLIVE Shields of Arms, by J. H. Clive, from bis M S.S. book No. VI. ... 50 Page Signatures of H. H. Williamson, (Greenway Bank) ; John Wood, (Brownbills); John Henry Clive, (Newfield) ; Joseph Brindley, (Longport); and Thomas Cox, (Hanley), 1820 54 Facing Page XVI Birmingham Fire Office receipt for one year's premium paid by Mr. John Wood of Brown­ hills, and John Henry Clive, (Newfield), in 1820, believed to be in connection with the Potteries Theatre. 54 XVII Instrument by J. H. CLIVE and another, being a double sextant for observing Lunar distances for obtaining a ship's longitude on the high seas, 1825 56 XVIII Sketch of The BRIDESTONES, Biddulph, about 1840, etched for the author by Reginald G. Haggar, A.R.C.A. F.R.S.A. N.R.D. ... ... 58 xvi LIST OF ILLUSTRATIONS. Plate No. Page Drawing by J. H. CLIVE of his suspension bridge shewn at the London Exhibition of 1851 86 Facing Page XIX A page from CLIVE'S Diary ... ... xx "Casting all your care upon God for he careth for you", written by John Henry Clive (born 1781), in 1840 ••• ••• 94 XXI Tombstone of JoHN HENRY CLIVE (1781-1853) and his family in Bath Abbey Churchyard. 98 XXII Crest and Arms of CLIVE of North Staffordshire as on record at the College of Arms : arg. on a fess between three wolves' heads erased sa. as many mullets of the field all within a bordure engraikd erminois.