STANDING SENATE COMITÉ SÉNATORIAL COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PERMANENT DES FINANCE FINANCES NATIONALES MEMO/NOTE DE SERVICE TO / DEST. : Members of the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance / Membres du Comité sénatorial permanent des finances nationales FROM / EXP. : Maxime Fortin Committee Clerk | Greffière de comité Committees Directorate | Direction des comités Senate of Canada | Sénat du Canada Room 1037, Chambers Bldg. | pièce 1037, édifice Chambers [email protected] 613 990-6080 DATE : Thursday, February 27, 2020 / Le jeudi 27 février 2020 SUBJECT/SUJET : Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada: Follow up to December 9, 2019 meeting on Supps. A / Relations Couronne-Autochtones et Affaires du Nord Canada : Suivi de la réunion du 9 décembre 2019 sur le Budget suppl. des dépenses A Honourable Senators: Honorables sénateurs, Please find attached the response provided by Veuillez trouver ci-joint la réponse fournie Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern par les Relations Couronne-Autochtones Affairs Canada to a question posed in the et Affaires du Nord Canada à une question course of the committee’s study of the posée dans le cadre de l’étude par le comité Supplementary Estimates (A), 2019-20, as a du Budget supplémentaire des dépenses (A) follow up to their appearance on December 9, 2019-2020, en suivi de leur comparution, le 2019. 9 décembre 2019. Thank you. Merci. Response to Follow Up Request from the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance – December 9, 2019 Question/Request #1: Senator Pat Duncan: It may be that the witnesses redirect me to the website. In going through the supplementary and in looking at many of the contributions and so on, I was looking for a breakdown by line item. For example, in Indigenous Affairs: Funding to renew 25 self-governing Indigenous fiscal transfer arrangements. My query, in looking at items like this, is can I have a breakdown by province and territory? What I think I heard in your initial presentation was that this is available on the website. If I were to go online and do a word search by “Yukon,” could I get that information? Answer: The information provided on-line at https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board- secretariat/services/planned-government-spending/supplementary-estimates/supplementary- estimates-a-2019-20.html provides a detailed listing of all supplementary estimates by organization but does not provide detail of funding with subtotals by provinces and territories. Therefore, below is a breakdown of 2019-2020 funding for the renewal for the 25 self-governing Indigenous governments fiscal transfer arrangements by province. Newfoundland and Labrador $ 11,709,264.00 Manitoba $ 2,817,608.00 Northwest Territories $ 15,601,298.00 British Columbia $ 29,549,546.00 Yukon $ 35,252,302.00 $ 94,930,018.00 Réponse à la demande de suivi du Comité sénatorial permanent des finances nationales – 9 décembre 2019 Question/Demande #1: Sénateur Dennis Glen Patterson: Il se peut que les témoins me redirigent vers le site Web. En passant par les dépenses supplémentaires et en regardant beaucoup de contributions et ainsi de suite, je cherchais une ventilation par point de ligne. Par exemple, dans les Affaires Autochtones: Financement pour renouveler 25 accords de transfert fiscal autonomes pour les Autochtones. Ma question, en regardant des éléments comme celui-ci, est ce qu’il y a une ventilation par province et territoire? Ce que je crois avoir entendu dans votre exposé initial, c'est que cela est disponible sur le site Web. Si je devais aller en ligne et faire une recherche de mots par «Yukon», pourrais-je obtenir cette information? Réponse: L’information en ligne à l’adresse suivante https://www.canada.ca/fr/secretariat-conseil- tresor/services/depenses-prevues/budgets-supplementaires/budget-supplementaire-depenses-a- 2019-2020.html fournit une liste détaillée de tous les budgets supplémentaires des dépenses par organisme, mais ne donne pas de détails sur le financement, avec des sous-totaux par province et territoire. Par conséquent, voici une allocation par province des fonds alloués pour 2019-2020 au renouvellement des 25 accords de transfert fiscal pour les gouvernements autochtones autonomes. Terre-Neuve-et-Labrador $ 11,709,264.00 Manitoba $ 2,817,608.00 Territoires du Nord-Ouest $ 15,601,298.00 Colombie-Britannique $ 29,549,546.00 Yukon $ 35,252,302.00 $ 94,930,018.00 Response to Follow Up Request from the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance – December 9, 2019 Question/Request #1: Senator Scott Tannas: Can you give us any figures you have with respect to a head count in your own department from the day that you came into existence as CIRNA until now? […] That didn’t include the Health Canada people? […] Would you be able to? That would be a nice baseline for us to work from is what is the combined 5,160 plus the Health Canada FTEs that were transferred over, and then we can compare that with what is now over 8,000 people. Answer: Before the split, Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) had a headcount of 5,160. In November 2017, when the Order-in-Council came into effect that created Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs(CIRNA) and Indigenous Services Canada (ISC), 2,490 employees from Health Canada transferred to what is now ISC. In April 2018, another Order-in-Council came into effect which led to an additional 270 employees being transferred from Health Canada to ISC to assist in the fulfillment of internal services’ functions. In sum, as of November 2019, ISC and CIRNAC have a total of employee headcounts of 6,356 and 1,959 respectively. Réponse à la demande de suivi du Comité sénatorial permanent des finances nationales – 9 décembre 2019 Question/Demande #1: Senateur Dennis Glen Patterson: Pouvez-vous nous donner des chiffres que vous avez en ce qui concerne le nombre d’employés dans votre propre ministère depuis le jour où vous avez vu le jour? [...] Cela n'incluait pas les gens de Santé Canada? [...] Seriez-vous capable de le faire? Ce serait une bonne base pour nous de travailler à partir de ce qui est le combiné de 5 160 employés plus les ETP de Santé Canada qui ont été transférés, et puis nous pouvons comparer cela avec ce qui est maintenant plus de 8 000 personnes. Réponse: Avant sa division en deux ministères distincts, Affaires autochtones et du Nord du Canda (AANC) comptaient 5 160 personnes. En novembre 2017, lorsque le décret est entré en vigueur pour la création de Relations Couronne-Autochtones et Affaires du Nord du Canada (RCAANC) et Services aux Autochtones Canada (SAC), 2 490 employés de Santé Canada ont été transférés à ce qui est maintenant SAC. En avril 2018, un autre décret est entré en vigueur, ce qui a entraîné le transfert de 270 employés de plus de Santé Canada au SAC afin d’aider à remplir les fonctions des services internes. En résumé, en novembre 2019, les SAC et les RCAANC ont respectivement un total de 6 356 et 1 959 employés. Response to Follow Up Request from the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance – December 9, 2019 Question/Request #1: A member of the committee would like to receive a detailed breakdown of cost from your department, regarding the operating expenditures, grants and contributions to meet obligations under land claims and self-government agreements, p. 1-13 of the Supplementary Estimates A. Answer: Please find below the grants and contributions for negotiation and implementation of comprehensive land claim and self-government agreements (including sectoral agreements) for the last five years. GRANTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS - ALL DEPARTMENTAL FUND CENTRES (including ISC 2015-16 to 2018-19) Note: Majority of Self-Government and Comprehensive Land Claim Agreements have annual escalators based on Final Domestic Demand and Implicit Price Index. Fiscal Year Fund Type of Funding Actual 2015/2016 309 - C-NEG&IMPL OF AGREEMENTS OR INITIATIVES CONTRIBUTION $ 296,499,378.52 2015/2016 435 - G-COMP LAND CLAIMS&SELF-GOVT AGREEMENTS GRANTS $ 436,540,831.33 $ 733,040,209.85 Fiscal Year Fund Type of Funding Actual 2016/2017 309 - C-NEG&IMPL OF AGREEMENTS OR INITIATIVES CONTRIBUTION $ 263,435,739.77 2016/2017 435 - G-COMP LAND CLAIMS&SELF-GOVT AGREEMENTS GRANTS $ 477,415,036.86 $ 740,850,776.63 Fiscal Year Fund Type of Funding Actual 2017/2018 309 - C-NEG&IMPL OF AGREEMENTS OR INITIATIVES CONTRIBUTION $ 311,866,152.46 2017/2018 435 - G-COMP LAND CLAIMS&SELF-GOVT AGREEMENTS GRANTS $ 707,993,766.93 Note: Increase in actuals due to: Recognition of Indigenous Rights and Self-Determination (RIRSD) funding 13M ; commencement of Anishinabek Education Agreement 53M$; $200M Bill C-70 Cree Nation Government - New Relationship between Canada and the Cree of Eeyou Istchee. $ 1,019,859,919.39 Fiscal Year Fund Type of Funding Actual 2018/2019 309 - C-NEG&IMPL OF AGREEMENTS OR INITIATIVES CONTRIBUTION $ 328,101,849.02 2018/2019 435 - G-COMP LAND CLAIMS&SELF-GOVT AGREEMENTS GRANTS $ 642,093,387.68 $ 970,195,236.70 Fiscal Year Fund Type of Funding Actual 2019/2020 309 - C-NEG&IMPL OF AGREEMENTS OR INITIATIVES CONTRIBUTION $ 183,627,247.47 2019/2020 435 - G-COMP LAND CLAIMS&SELF-GOVT AGREEMENTS GRANTS $ 622,616,526.34 Note: Expenditures as of January 13, 2020 $ 806,243,773.81 The following reflects operations and maintenance expenditures related to the implementation of comprehensive land claim agreements and self-government agreements for the last five years. OPERATIONS & MAINTENANCE - DETAILS OF ACTUALS - IMPLEMENTATION SECTOR (TREATY MANAGEMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION FUND CENTRES) Fiscal Year Fund Actual 2015/2016 SALARY $ 3,587,850.71 2015/2016 NON-SALARY OPERATING $ 1,374,737.87 $ 4,962,588.58 Fiscal Year Fund Actual 2016/2017 SALARY $ 3,686,707.53 2016/2017 NON-SALARY OPERATING $ 1,457,677.52 $ 5,144,385.05 Fiscal Year Fund Actual 2017/2018 SALARY $ 4,295,976.88 2017/2018 NON-SALARY OPERATING $ 945,257.94 $ 5,241,234.82 Fiscal Year Fund Actual 2018/2019 SALARY $ 4,726,804.31 2018/2019 NON-SALARY OPERATING $ 1,173,884.64 * Increased salary associated with creation of sector $ 5,900,688.95 Fiscal Year Fund Actual 2019/2020 SALARY $ 3,451,148.67 2019/2020 435 - G-COMP LAND CLAIMS&SELF-GOVT AGREEMENTS $ 867,015.12 Note: Expenditures as of January 13, 2020.