Folio Archives Six Philosophies Atma tattva das ”The four vaisnava sampradayas” (tapes 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 & 13) This is Sri Sri Radha and Krsna, the Supreme Absolute truth and here is the four handed form of Narayana and here are the four sampradayas. This is Laksmi. In Laksmi’s line after so many acaryas, we discussed the Alvars, we discussed Natha Muni. In that line after Yamunacarya comes Ramanujacrya. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu in His unmanifest pastimes in Mayapur He met Ramanuja and He gave him instructions what to do and how much he should preach, what aspects of impersonalism he should defeat and He also predicted: I am coming to preach acintya bedhabedha tattva, then your philosophy will find it’s culmination. Here is our line coming from Brahma, Narada, Vyasa, Madhvacarya. From tomorrow we will discuss Madhvacarya’s pastimes, how Madhvacarya met Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu in His unmanifest pastimes in Mayapur, then we will go into Madhva lila, then we will find out how that instruciton was carried again from Madhva to Pancatattva. Here is the Pancatattva, this is the manifested pastime of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu 500 years ago. This is the transcendental form of Sri Caitanya which was always present, who is now present here and who will always be present here. This is how He instructed the sampradaya. This is Kumara, the four Kumaras, then comes Nimbarka. The Nimbarka sampradaya also had darsan of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu during Caitanya’s unmanifested pastimes. Here is Lord Siva from whom comes Visnu- swami and in Visnuswami’s line.. later it is known as Vallabha sampradaya, Vallabhacarya was personally there with Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu in His pastimes. Nimbarka appeared as Kesava Kasmiri during Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s pastimes. In this way Sri Caitanya instructed the four sampradaya founder acaryas how to defeat impersonalism and establish pure devotional service. As Caitanya He took two points from each sampradaya and He formed the instructions which were given to the Goswamis. Here are the Goswamis. After the Goswamis so many things happened, that is subject matter for another seminar, it is not possible in this one. Then Bhaktivinod Thakur, he organised everything and on his prayer came Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur. He took initiation from Gaurakisordas Babaji, the disciple of Bhaktivinod Thakur. From Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati came visnupad paramahamsa parivrajikacarya astottara asatta sri srimad AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada KI JAY!!! Srila Prabhupada KI JAYA!!! Srila Prabhupada KI JAYA!!! So Bhaktivinod Thakura predicted that all the sampradayas will find their culmination in Brahma sampradaya and he said that all the religious principleç,,li0e rVvers entering the o8ean will enter the ocean of Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, ,RTma Rama, Hare Hare. This was Bhaktitinod Thakur’s prediction. So all the sampradaya’s find their actual culmination and actual practical appliction of their philoso phy in the Hare Krsna movement. So now all the sampradayas are united under one flag and that is the flag of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. That is why He is the yuga avatara, He is the incarnation for this age. By taking shelter of Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna.... we will please all these acaryas. They are all pleased, Ramanuja is pleased, so pleased when he sees 8hat in Russia they are chanting Hare Krsna. Nimbarka is so pleased that in Africa there is a Radha Krsna temple. Visnuswami is so pleased that Srimad Bhagavatam is recited in Folkland and here is Madhvacarya who is so happy that in New York they are chanting Hare Krsna maha mantra. They are all pleased and most of the acaryas in the four lines, it is also predicted that they would make their appearance in the Hare Krsna movement. This is also a prediction by the Alvars. So this Hare Krsna movement has come here to stay but we don’t know whether we are here to stay in this movement. That is up to us. By seeing so many different things happening to this movement, by seeing that so many people are stoppingPchanting Hare Krsna if anyone will leave this movement then he is the most unfortunate person. Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura said: do not get discouraged by the circumstances that hfppen to the Hare Krsna movement, do not get discouragep that so many have left chanting Hare Krsna. Take shelter of the lotus feet of Rupa and Ragunatha, the feet of RupMtand Ragunatha are the only shelter and keep away from vaisnava aparad and keep on chanting Hare Krsna. This is even the instruction of Y0aktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura and Srila PrabPupada said: never leave. ”With all the defects of ISKCON I love you!”, he said. So if anything happening, if one will just stick unto this movement and speak as he has spoken and do as he has done then there is no scarcity, no scarcity of strength. The strength is coming from the purity of the principles and books are the basis, p0eaching is the essence, utility is the principle. This has been thaught by all these acaryas and this is what they dreamed that one day this Kali should be destroyed and how can it be destroyed? Only by the Hare Krsna movement, nobody else has this potency and all these people, all these religions2 all these sampradayas will one day or other merge into this Hare Krsna movement. This is the prediction of Bhaktivinod Thakur. So Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu took 2 principles from Sri sampradaya: puretunalloyed devotion devoid of karma, jnana and yoga and vaisnava seva - serving vaisnavas. These instructions were given by Mahaprabhu to Ramanuja. Then he came in Gauranga lila and he took those instructions and he gave them to Rupa Goswami and Sanatana Goswami, the rest of it we will see intthe future classes. Before we start with Brahma’s line this is Laksmi 0ampradaya and this is Ramanujacarya and we 2iscussed the Alvars. Then Ramanuja, as we discussed in the stories, by the mercy o2 Jagannath came to Mayapur and Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu He instructed him on how much he should bring the philosophical understanding and what aspects of impersonalism should be defeated, in what manner. Then His manifest pastimes Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu took two principles from Ramanuja’s dardsan, this was ordinarily known as vasistadvaita. After Ramanuja’s 6ime it was known as Ramanuja siddhanta because of his expertise in that prilosophy. So He took 2 principles: pure unalloyed devotional service devoid of karma, jnana and some mental platform of bhakti which was at that time knotn as bhakti )oga. So he established prapati which is devotional service, active devotiPnaI servMce in our terminology. So these two principles were taken. The Goswamis were instructed by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, these principles were instructed to them. So in this way Krsna comes through these different successions and then He comes as Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and He organized them. In His manifest pastimes He takes principles from them and in this way He continues to establishing Absolute Truth. There are many philosophical points in the vasistadvaita philosophy and it is not necessary for and we don’t need to go into all the details. What are the different ways in which impersonalism is defeated by vasistadvaita philosophy is a subject matter for another type of class. Here we will only discuss those points, philosophical points where they seem to be different from our line and where exactly these two principles fit in. Because they are just TYke, we dittu,sed the other day mathematics department and biology department, so these are just growing into the other one explainng it in one angle and another one explaining another angle. Sometimes it looks like they are two different, it’s only those points we will discuss here. In the Ramanuja siddhanta the Supreme Absolute is Lord Visnu, every other form is His ocean of planery portion or expansion. In Sri Caitanya’s line Sri Krsna is the Supreme Absolute Truth, every other form is His expansion and both understand the visnu tattva principle. So in Ramanutl line when they see the form wf Krsna they see it as: here is our Visnu in a child form, here is our Visnu playing rasa lila, here is our Visnu in two handed form. This is how they see Krsna and Krsna is considered as purna avatara, complete incarnation of Visnu. But then the supreme abode, because Visnu is Supreme their acarya is Laksmi and for Laksmi Visnu is Supreme, the supreme abode of Vaikuntha. Goloka is one part of Vaikuntha planets, this is their understanding. Because of taking instruction from Laksmi, for Laksmi Narayana is the Supreme, this is why Vaikuntha for them is ... There are very many technical details in it just touching the subject matter, later if anyone wants to go into details then we can discuss some other time. So bhokta thogya and prerita they have svarupa bedha, in other words enjoyer, enjoyment and he director of that enjoyment they have difference in their constitutional position. This is Ramanuja siddhanta. It is a same understanding explained more clearly. In Sri Caitanya’s line there are bhogya and bhokta, there are both energies of the prerita in other words the living entity and this material energy they are both energies of the Supreme Lord. Then simply just understanding that they have some difference in constitutional position does not answer many questions. If you accept the Lord as energetic and these two as energy then those questions are answered. Then in Ramanuja siddhanta brahman is visesa and cetana cita visesana, that means the Absolute Truth Brahman is qualified substance.