19th February 1945 THE· LEOISLATIVE ASSEMBLY DEBATE� Official Report Volume I, 1945 . - (8th Febraary to 23rcl February, 1945) TWENTY-SECOND SESSION OPTHB FIFTH LEOISLATIVE ASSEMBLY� - 1945 �EGISLA TIVE ASSEMBLY \ • [ Prtaidcnt : The Honour&ble Sir 1ABDUB DABZR, K.C.S.L . Depvly President : Mr . .AxmL Clu.NDRA DATNt, M..L.Ai. Pantl of Chairmen : Mr. ABDUL QilYUM, M.L.A. Syed GBULA.HBmx N.A.IlliNo , M.L.A. Mr. K. 0. N:mooy, M.L.A. SirHENRY RICHARDSON, M.L.A. Suret,ary : Mia.n MUHillHA.D RAFI, Ba.rrist&r-a.t-La.w• .A� o/ 1kt &uclarfl.:. Mr.M. N. KAUL, Barrister-at-Law. Khan Ba.b.adur S. G. HAsNAIN. Mara'hal! Captain HA.JISARDAR NUB Amlin KHAN,M.C., I.O.M., I.A. Committee on Petitions : Mr. AxmL CJwro��"rB, M.L.A. (Chairman). Syed GHULill BmxNAIBANo, M.L.A. Mr. GOVIND V. DEsmmxH, M.L.A� Mr.N. M. Josm, M.L.A. Sa.rda.r SA.NT $U(Gfl,l!LL.A. CONTENTS Volume I-8th Febr~ary to 23rd February, .l~ • PAGBS , -7Jr0B8DAY, 8TH FBIIllUABY, 1945- MONDAY, 12T~ FBlIRUARY 1945-cOtltd, 1,68 Members sworn . , , , 1-30 Indian Merc.handil!e Marks (Amendment) ~tarred Questions and AnsWeIII . Supplementary Bill Referred to Select Unstarrea Question and Answer , 30 31;-46 Committee _ . • . 267-72 statements I&Id on the Table . • , Indian Patents and Designs (Amendment) Deaths of Mr. Umar All' Shah and Mr. Khecian 47-48 Btll-Motion not moved 272 48 H~ the ~ovenior 'General;s Assent to'BIlIs' WBDNBSDAY, 14TH FBBRUARY, 1945- Motion for Adjournmellt r~ Withdrawal by Starred Questions and AlI8wers • _ 273-3110 Government of India of Assurance to feed 48-49; Transferred StRrred Questiona and Answers 8~ Calcutta-Withdrawn 77-78 Transferred Unstarred Question and Answer 343-4& Declaration of Exemption under the Registra- Motions for Adjournment re- 49-50 Violation by Government of terms Df tion of Foreigners Act . Delhi Railway Station Hindu B:efreab- Amendment to the Insurance Rules • . 50-53 Indian Tea Control (Amendment) BIU-Intro- ment Room Catering Contru:tr-Dla- duced. _ - . - 54 allowed. _ . .". .- 3" lBd1an Companies (Amendment) Bill-Intro- Granting War Allowance for Senior Mem· duced. _ . - . 54 bers of Indisn Civil Service:-Dlftallow- Indian Patents and Designs (Amendment) .ed ...• _ .. ~7 54 Declaration directing certain Budget Heads Bill-Introdnced _ - . , of Expenditure open to disoussion bv the Indian MerchandIse Marks (Amendment) Sup- Legislative Assembly. _. _ 347 plementary Bill-Introduced. - . 54 Report of the Public Accounts Committee- Appointment of the Honourable Sir Edwaro. M-otlon to consider adopted as amended . 54-77.J Benthal to perform functions of the 78-8:> Finance Member at Railway Budget General discussions . 347 X otiflcations under the C-entral EXCise and 3l'lUDAY, 9TH FEBRUARY, 1945- Salt Act . _ . 348---49 Starred Questions and Anwaers - 87-125 The Hindu Marriage Disabiltties Removal Unstarred Questions and AnsweJ'8 . - . 125-26 RIII-Discussion on the motIOn to refer to Motion for A<!journment re failure to enforce Select Committee-Not concluded . 34~ Economic Sanctions against South Africa and to recall the High Commissloner- THURSDAY, 15TH FEBRUARY, 1945- Adopted 126-27, Starred Questions and Answers 381-402 . 150-67 Unstarred Question and Answer 402 Nomination of the Panel of Chairmen 127 Short Notice Questions and Answers . 4Oll-4O Committee on Petitioll& . , . 127 Amendment to Coorg Motor Vehicles Rules 404 Resolution r. National War Front-Discussion ~resentation of the &I!way Budget for not concluded 127-50 . 1945-46 • . • • . • 404-15 Statement of Businces 415 -SATURDAY, 10TH FEBRUARY, H)45- Starred Questions and Answers . 169-202 MONDAY, 19TH FBBRUARY, 1945- Unstarred Qnestion Ilnd Answer . 202 ¥ember Sworn . _ Short Notice Question and Answer 202-03 Starred QllestiOIl8 and Answers :Motions for Adjournment re- TrlUlSferred Starred Questions and A.Dsweni Accident to Punjab Mail near Arrah-DIs- Transferred Uustarred Questions and An- allowed. - . 203 Outrllge within the Premises of HamaYllIl M~tlg:;s for Adjournnlent ;'e War Allowance 464-67 _ Railway Station-Disallowed. 203-04 for Senior Members ofIndian Civil Service Immediate need of Nutrition Research in -Nngatived . _ ,467-09, India-Disallowed. 204 . 495-513 Appointment of Iln lI.rmy ReorganlsatiGn "-General DIscussion of the Railway Budget 46~ Committee-Disallowed. , 204 Bombing of Pathall Villages in North TUESDAY, 20TH FBBRUARY, 1945- Wazlristan-Disallowed. 204-05 Bannin!! of certain Public Meetings, etc. Member Sworn . ,. 515 in Karachi and other Towns in Sind~ Starred Questions and AnSwers 515---39 Disallowed . 205 Unstarred Questions and Answers 539-46 Simla Dcputy Commissioner's Order to Short Notice Question and Answer 546--48 Messrs. Keveutero re sale of Eggs- Motion for Adjournment re Restriction on Disallowed . 205 cO~ Sale of Matehes in AhmWabad Munlc!pal Misuse of Congress Flags in Delhi and ~antonment Limits-Disallowed "1mt".. Not moved . _ 205 The Railway Budget-List of Demands 548-82 'Reducing Supply of Paper for Printing • Demand No. 6·G.-Working Expenses"':' of Hindu Calendar In Bengali-:liot MlsceIlanooUB ExpeIl8e8 549-75 moved. • 206 Refusal. to In"ant Funds to' run Motor Recent Ra(llal and Religious Distinction Lorries. 549-75 set up by Labour Departtnent about Demand No. l.-Railway Bo&rd' . 575-82 Allotment of Quarters-WithdraWn 206-07 Use of Unfair Means on the Public of Paucity of Muslims in Riulway SerVices : 575-82 Bihar for Purchase of National Savings WEDNESDAY, 21ST FEBRUARY 1941>- Certificates-Adopted 20.-08, Member Sworn ' 583 224---43 Starred Questions and Answers . 583--630 "Demands for Excess Grants for 1942-43 208-24 UlI8tarred Questions and Answers 630--32 The Insurance (SecOnd Amendment) Bill"":' Railway Budget-lAst. of Demands 632-66 Presentation of the Report of the Select Deman.. No_ I-RailwaY Roard 632-66 • Commlt~. 224 InC?nv~uiences to Third Class Passengers 632-60 Cllill'fDAY, 12TH FEBRUARY, 1945-, Indlanlzatlon of the Higher Grades . eeOo-e66 Member Sworn 245 ~~.'~,Y. 22ND FEBRUARY, 1945- Starred Questions aDd Aniwers ' 245-61 ~. Questions and Answers 667-82 "Motion for Alijournmeltt re Fanure to ap: Unstarred Questions and Answers 682-88 prise the Governor General about Sltu- Railway Budget-LIst of Demands. 68~719 &tlon re Recrultment to Indian CiVil Ser· Deman!1 No. I_-Railway Boqd: ,684-719 vice and Indisn Police Serv1ce-Ruled Flnancml Position of the RailWays 684-704 out ofONer 261-63 Inadequacy of the Scale ofDearneu AJII/I- • 'Indian Tea Control (AmendID.ent) 'Bm-:. "anee to Railwaymen . 7-19 Passed 268-64 'tndlan MercBandise Marks (AmeDdmellt) " -~ 'Indian ComJlimtes' (AmflDdment) 'Bm": eupplementary Bill-Presentation of the Motion to eonsIder adopted , 26(-66 Report oC the Select Committee "719 PAGB8 PA-GlIIF I'JD)AY, 23BD FBJIll1fARY, 1~1 --,. FRIDAY, 28&D FBmr.UARY, 1946--c0llt4. Starred Questions and AJia ....ers 721-37 Demand No. 6-C.-Worklng EneIllle8- PDBtponed Quest10na and Answers 78i Malntenance of Carriage and Wagon lJnatarrpd Question "and Anner 737 Stock. • • • Statemeute laid on the Table . 7~7 Demand No. 6-D.-Worklng hpeIlIIe8- JI.aI1way Budget-LlBt of Demands 747-86 Malntenance and Worklng of Ferry Demand No. L-Rallway Baird. • 747-84 Steamers and Harbours. • • ~, Hours of work fbr Railway Stair. • 747--66 Demand No. 6-E.-Worklng ~ Non-employment of Orlyas on Bengal Expenaes of TraJIlc Department • ~ Nagpur Railway . • 766--68 Demand No. 6~F.- or lng JjlXJ)e1llle8- Paucity of Sikhs In RaIlway Servicell • 769-66 of General Depa1tn:ients • POIIt-War PoHcy re Ownersbip and Expenses 786 lilanagement of Steam V_le}llying Demand No. &-G.-Worklng ~ In Indian WateN. • 766-77 MfsceDaneoue Expenaes. • • '18& Des1rablUty of Judfclal Enquiries Into Demand No.II-H.-WorkinJ! ~ RaIlway Accidents involving Lou of Expenaes of Electrical Department • 786 Human LIfe. • • • • 777-84 Demand No. 7.-Worklng ElQleIlIIe8- Demand No. 2.-Audlt • • . '784 Appropriation to DepreClatioli J!!und • Demand No. 8.-MIsoeIIaneoue Expendi- 7a5 ture • • • • • • 784 Demand No. S.-Interest Obarges • f86 Demand No. 6.-Payments to Indian. Demand No. lO.-Appreprlation to Be- States and Companies • • • 784 serve . • • • .... f86 Demand No. II-A.-worIdng EXpeDsee-- Demand No. 10-A.-Withdrawal from JWntenauOll of Structuril Worb • "'184 ~. 'I8e Demand No. 6-B.-Worklna ~ JWntenauce and Supply of Looomo- Demand No.1l.-New CoIIatrIiatIon '181 UvePower 784 Demand No.lL-Open LIne Works 'I8e - LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Monday, 19th February, ,1945 The Assembly met in the Assembly Chamber of the Council House at Eleven of the Clock, Mr. President (The Honourable Sir Abdur Rahim) in the 4Jhair. MEMBER SWORN: Colonel Henry Wynter Wagstaff, M.C., M.L.A. (Government of Indi,,: Nominated Official). STARRED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS . (a) ORAL ANSWERS t290*--G9* RJ:J'USAL TO INTERVIlDW TllIIlIB RELATIVES BY DBTAINED CONGRESS WOBltDfG CoIOlI'l"l'EE MBMBEBS 330. *JIlr. T. S. AviIlashiliDgam Ohettiar: Will the Honourable the Home Membe!" please state: ,.; (a) whether Maulana Azad, PtIJldH Jawaharlal Nehru and other Members of the Ullngress Working Committee have refused to avail themselves of the privi- lege of having interviews with their relaiives; (b) the reasons for which they have refused to exercise this privilege, and wr.ether It is true that to this privilege were attached humiliating conaitioru;; and (c) whether Government have considered the matter and resolved to remove these conditions? The HOJ1Ol1I'8ble Sir I'rancis J[udie: (a) Yes. (b) I would invite attention to the answer given to parts (a} and (b) of Mr. K. S. Gupta's question No. 219 on the 14th February. No humiliating condi- tions were attached. (c) Does not arise. lI1'. T. S. AvinaBhili.ngam Ohet.tiar: May I know whether it is true that some of the Working Committee members were forced to speak in languages ,_ other than their own and that is the reason why some ')f them refused theae interviews? The Honourable Sir I'rancis ]l[udie: I think there is a specific question on that subject.