Committee Meeting of SENATE ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY COMMITTEE ASSEMBLY TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND UTILITIES COMMITTEE Senate Bill No. 3560, Assembly Bill No. 5330 “Establishes Nuclear Diversity Certificate program” LOCATION: Committee Room 4 DATE: December 20, 2017 State House Annex 10:00 a.m. Trenton, New Jersey MEMBERS OF COMMITTEES PRESENT: Senator Bob Smith, Chair Senator Richard J. Codey Senator Stephen M. Sweeney Senator Christopher “Kip” Bateman Senator Samuel D. Thompson Assemblyman Wayne P. DeAngelo, Chair Assemblyman Benjie E. Wimberly, Vice Chair Assemblyman Joseph V. Egan Assemblyman Eric Houghtaling Assemblywoman Eliana Pintor Marin Assemblyman Andrew Zwicker Assemblyman Sean T. Kean ALSO PRESENT: Kevil Duhon Richard Diaconu Kate McDonnell Ben Graziano Judith L. Horowitz Senate Majority Assembly Majority Tara M. Howley Rebecca Panitch Glen Beebe Office of Legislative Services Senate Republican Assembly Republican Committee Aides Committee Aides Committee Aides Meeting Recorded and Transcribed by The Office of Legislative Services, Public Information Office, Hearing Unit, State House Annex, PO 068, Trenton, New Jersey TABLE OF CONTENTS Page Assemblyman John J. Burzichelli District 3 3 Ralph Izzo, Ph.D. Chairman, President, and CEO Public Service Energy Group (PSEG) 5 Stefanie A. Brand, Esq. Director Division of Rate Counsel State of New Jersey 10 James J. Florio Former Governor State of New Jersey 40 Mauricio Gutierrez President and CEO NRG Energy, Inc. 43 Edward H. Salmon, Ed.D. Chairman New Jersey Energy Coalition 45 John E. Shelk, Esq. President and CEO Electric Power Supply Association (ESPA) 48 Dean M. Murphy, Ph.D. Principal The Brattle Group 52 Janet Tauro Chair Board of Directors Clean Water Action New Jersey, and Founding Member Grandmothers, Mothers, and More for Energy Safety (GRAMMES) 60 TABLE OF CONTENTS (continued) Page Michael Maloney President New Jersey State Association of Pipe Trades, and Business Manager Plumbers and Pipefitters Local 9 62 Tanya Bodell Executive Director Energyzt Advisors, LLC 63 Carlos Medina Chairman Statewide Hispanic Chamber of Commerce of New Jersey 67 Mary Barber Director New Jersey Clean Energy Program Environmental Defense Fund 68 Michael V. Kerwin President and CEO Somerset County Business Partnership 70 Chip Hallock President and CEO Newark Regional Business Partnership 71 Paul Bordreau President Morris County Chamber of Commerce 72 Peter Crowley President and CEO Princeton Regional Chamber of Commerce 72 Kenneth “Buddy” Thoman President and Business Manager International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 94 74 Wyatt Earp Recording Secretary New Jersey State Electrical Workers Association, and International Representative District 3 International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers 74 TABLE OF CONTENTS (continued) Page Jeff Tittel Executive Director New Jersey Chapter Sierra Club 77 AJ Sabath Representing William Mullen President New Jersey State Building and Construction Trades Council 82 Steven Gardner, Esq. Director New Jersey Laborers-Employers Cooperation and Education Trust (NJLECET) 83 Ryan Fitzpatrick Deputy Director Clean Energy Third Way 84 Joe Kerecman Director Government and Regulatory Affairs Calpine Corporation 86 Judd A. Gregg Former Governor State of New Hampshire, and Former U.S. Senator 7th Congressional District, and Member Advocacy Council Nuclear Matters 89 Evelyn Liebman Director New Jersey Advocacy American Association of Retired Persons (AARP) 91 Maria Korsnick President and CEO Nuclear Energy Institute 94 TABLE OF CONTENTS (continued) Page Brett Rampal Nuclear Innovation Associate Clean Air Task Force 98 Joseph Bowring, Ph.D. President Monitoring Analytics, and Independent Market Monitor PJM 104 Melissa DeCastro, Esq. Freeholder Salem County Board of Chosen Freeholders 107 Geoffrey Brown Representing Grandmothers, Mothers, and More for Energy Safety (GRAMMES) 108 Joseph Dominguez Executive Vice President Governmental and Regulatory Affairs and Public Policy Exelon Corporation 110 Steven S. Goldenberg, Esq. Representing New Jersey Large Energy Users Coalition 119 Joshua Unruh Chair Selectboard Vernon, Vermont 124 James E. Benton Executive Director New Jersey Petroleum Council 126 Jennifer Tutterow Private Citizen 129 Dennis Hart Executive Director Chemistry Council of New Jersey 132 TABLE OF CONTENTS (continued) Page William Radigan Procurement Manager DSM Nutritional Products, Inc. 132 Joel E. Givner Manager J Givoo Consultants Inc. 136 Diane Slifer Consultant Power Providers Group (P3) Pennsylvania, Jersey, Maryland Power Pool (PJM) 139 Anthony M. Lowman, Ph.D. Dean Henry M. Rowan College of Engineering Rowan University 140 William Paulin Senior Vice President Kuehne Chemical Company, Inc. 142 Dale Bryk Chief Planning and Integration Officer National Defense Resource Council 144 Barbara Blumenthal, Ph.D. Research Coordinator New Jersey Conservation Foundation ReThink Energy New Jersey 149 Sara Bluhm Vice President Environment and Energy New Jersey Building and Industry Association 151 Jerome Montes Business Representative New Jersey Main Street Alliance 153 TABLE OF CONTENTS (continued) Page Doug O’Malley Director Environment New Jersey 155 David Pringle Campaign Manager Clean Water Action 157 APPENDIX: Testimony, plus attachments submitted by Ralph Izzo, Ph.D. 1x Testimony submitted by Stefanie A. Brand, Esq. 15x Testimony submitted by Governor James Florio 25x Testimony submitted by Edward H. Salmon, Ed.D. 28x Testimony submitted by John E. Shelk, Esq. 30x Salem and Hope Creek Nuclear Power Plants’ Contribution to the New Jersey Economy submitted by Dean M. Murphy, Ph.D. and Mark P. Berkman, Ph.D. 34x Testimony submitted by Tanya Bodell 37x Testimony submitted by Carlos Medina 43x Testimony submitted by Mary Barber 46x TABLE OF CONTENTS (continued) Page APPENDIX (continued) Testimony submitted by Michael V. Kerwin 48x Testimony submitted by Chip Hallock 49x Testimony submitted by Paul Bordreau 51x Testimony submitted by Kenneth “Buddy” Thoman 53x Testimony submitted by AJ Sabath Representing William Mullen President New Jersey State Building and Construction Trades Council 55x Testimony submitted by Ryan Fitzpatrick 56x Testimony submitted by Joe Kerecman 60x Testimony submitted by Judd A. Gregg 63x Testimony submitted by Evelyn Liebman 65x TABLE OF CONTENTS (continued) APPENDIX (continued) Testimony submitted by Maria Korsnick 67x Testimony submitted by Brett Rampal 73x Testimony submitted by Melissa DeCastro, Esq. 80x Testimony, plus attachments submitted by Joseph Dominguez 81x Testimony submitted by Joshua Unruh 92x Testimony submitted by Jennifer Tutterow 94x Testimony, plus attachments submitted by Dennis Hart 96x Testimony submitted by Joel E. Givner 103x Testimony submitted by Diane Slifer 105x Testimony submitted by Anthony M. Lowman, Ph.D. 109x TABLE OF CONTENTS (continued) APPENDIX (continued) Transitioning Away from Uneconomical Nuclear Power Plants submitted by Dale Bryk 111x Testimony submitted by Sara Bluhm 116x Testimony submitted by Jerome Montes 118x Testimony submitted by Doug O’Malley 119x Testimony, plus attachments submitted by Robert Perciasepe President Center for Climate and Energy Solutions (C2ES) 121x E-mail, addressed to Committee From Unknown 152x Testimony submitted by Karen D. Alexander President New Jersey Utility Shareholders Association 153x Testimony submitted by Paul Stockton, Ph.D. Managing Director Sonecon, LLC 156x TABLE OF CONTENTS (continued) APPENDIX (continued) Testimony submitted by Vinod O. Menezes President and CEO Atlantic Subsea, Inc. 164x Testimony submitted by Eric Blomgren Associate Director Government Affairs New Jersey Gasoline, Convenience Store, Automotive Association 166x Testimony submitted by Erica L. Jedynak New Jersey State Director Americans for Prosperity 167x Testimony submitted by Marlene Z. Asselta President Southern New Jersey Development Council 169x Testimony submitted by Pierre P. Oneid Senior Vice President, and Chief Nuclear Officer Holtec International 172x pnf:1-171 SENATOR BOB SMITH (Chair): We’re now going to meet as a Joint Committee to talk about today’s main event, which is S-3560 and A-5330. We previously had a hearing to review many of the issues associated with this legislation. But to make it official, I think we need to start with a roll call from the Senate side of the Committee. MS. HOROWITZ (Committee Aside): Senator Smith. SENATOR SMITH: I’m present. MS. HOROWITZ: Governor Codey. SENATOR SMITH: He’s here; yes. MS. HOROWITZ: Senator Sweeney is present. And Governor Codey is present. Senator Bateman. (no response) SENATOR CODEY: I’m here. Did you do roll call already? SENATOR SMITH: Yes, we’re doing it. SENATOR SMITH: And Senator Thompson is here, too. And I think that’s everybody, right? Okay; so, with your permission, Chairman-- ASSEMBLYMAN DeANGELO: Yes. SENATOR SMITH: --our first witnesses will be the sponsors of the legislation, and I am proud to include myself in that on the Senate side. We have our Senate President Steve Sweeney and Assemblyman John Burzichelli. Gentlemen, if you would describe for the Committee what we’re doing here today. 1 SENATOR SWEENEY: To both Chairmen, thank you for taking up probably one of the most important issues that we’re going to deal with since I’ve been in the Legislature, which is ensuring that our environment has clean energy. The nuke plants in Salem provide 40 percent of the energy in the State of New Jersey, and it’s important that we find a way to keep them open, providing clean energy. There has been a