24 Ez. 2 MAC 2 Mnd, Mrh , Two OCOCK .M. Prayers by Capt. l. Mr. Speaker gave his reserved decision on the matter of privilege raised by Mr. Gbn on February 27, 1975, as follows: nrbl Mbr,—h Honourable Member for North Vancouver- Capilano raised as a matter of privilege last Thursday a complaint relating to the disclosure of settlement figures between Public Service Union bargaining units and the Government. He cites the Hon. Provincial Secretary as stating on February 25 to the House in question period: "I intend to adhere to the agreement I have with the union involved not to release the details of settlements until all negotiations are complete." He considers news of disclosure to the public and not to the House to be a breach of privilege of the members and a contempt. There is no evidence from the honourable member that press releases or public statements to the newspapers and media have been made by the Hon. Provincial Secretary. Therefore the fact that the public has become aware before some honourable members of this House does not preclude the information having been received by the Employers' Council of British Columbia by some other simple means. For example, the public may be astute enough to examine existing Orders in Council. Had they done so, certainly the information sought in question period would have been easily discovered. That means, of course, that the Honourable Member for North Vancouver-Capilano could have satisfied his curiosity without the assistance of question period. I have secured most if not all of these Orders in Council for the honourable member. Both May and Beauchesne declare that information already available in public documents (such as Orders in Council, Statutes, or Government reports) should not be sought in oral question period. It follows therefore that such readily acces- sible information can hardly be the springboard for a matter of breach of privilege. In the 18th edition of May, page 327, it states: ". questions requiring information set forth in accessible documents (such as Statutes, treaties, etc.) have not been allowed when the member concerned could obtain the information of his own accord without difficulty." Thus no prima facie breach of the privileges of the House can be attributed to the Hon. Provincial Secretary, nor need this decision on these existing facts require at this time any consideration by the House as to the whole subject of privileges of parliament in relation to the subject of release of information outside the House. G. H. DOWDING, Spr Order called for "Oral Questions by Members." Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the motion "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair" for the House to go into Committee of Supply. 28 MAC 1975 h dbt ntnd. On th tn f th n. G. rr, th dbt djrnd t th nxt ttn f th . lv f th , th n. A. Wll d ttnt rltn t th Clb vr rjt Ct lltn Std Ctt nd, b lv, tbld Ctt nt nd rnd rltn thrt. h n. A. Mdnld (AttrnGnrl prntd th flln: prt f th fr Cn f rth Clb n Cvl ht (rjt . , rt I—A rdr fr dl v f th Atn f Stttr An. prt f th fr Cn f rth Clb n Cvl ht (rjt . , rt III—rdr fr Stttr An. h fth Annl prt f th fr Cn f rth Clb fr th lndr r 4. h hrd prt f th Wrr Cpntn rd dntrn th Crnl Injr Cpntn At, fr th prd nr , 4, t br , 4. h Snd prt f th .C. Enr Cn. h n. Ernt ll (rvnl Srtr prntd th 6th Annl prt f th bl Srv Cn fr th r 4. Mr. Spr prntd th rprt f th brrn, prnt t th ltv brr At, hptr 26, .S..C. 60, fr th r 4. Mr. rdn d th n. th Mntr f Arltr th flln tn Wth rpt t th In Arn rr . Wht th ttl rvnl nt pd t t dt nd t hh dt rp? 2. Wht th ttl drl nt pd t fr nptn t dt nd t hh dt rp? h n. Stph rpld fll: ". Sn, $26,2.62 ppl, $2,82,20. fld tt, $2,04. dr (t br , 4, $4,264,4.6 ttl, $,6,84.0. (Ct t Gvrnnt r ndnt l prdr pr. "2. l." lvd, ht th , t t rn, d tnd djrnd ntl 2 l p.. trr. And thn th djrnd t 6.08 p.. 24 Ez. 2 MAC 2 d, Mrh 4, Two OCOCK .M. Prayers by the Rev. P. Hawkes. Mr. D. A. Anderson rose on a matter of privilege relating to information given to the House by the Hon. Lorne Nicolson (Minister of Housing). Mr. Speaker stated that he would take the matter under advisement. Order called for "Oral Questions by Members." Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the motion "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair" for the House to go into Committee of Supply. The debate continued. On the motion of the Hon. Eileen E. Dailly the debate was adjourned to the next sitting of the House. Resolved, That the House, at its rising, do stand adjourned until 2 o'clock p.. tomorrow. And then the House adjourned at 4.59 p.m. Wdnd, Mrh , Two OCOCK .M. Prayers by the Rev. Charles A. Barker. By leave of the House, the Hon. Lorne Nicolson (Minister of Housing) tabled Memorandum of Agreement dated January 14, 1975, between Casa Loma Motel Ltd. and Her Majesty the Queen in Right of the Province of British Columbia. Order called for "Oral Questions by Members." Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the motion "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair" for the House to go into Committee of Supply. The debate continued. Mr. Schroeder moved in amendment, seconded by Mr. Richter— "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair" for the House to go into Com- mittee of Supply be amended by adding the following words: "but this House 30 MARCH 5 1975 rrt tht n th pnn f th th n. th Mntr f nn h fld t tblh bdt prrt n h t prvd dt fnnl pr vn fr rvnhrn th ll vrnnt, nntv t tlt hn, nd nntv t dvlp rtr nbr f jb pprtnt n th rvn f rth Clb." h dbt ntnd. On th tn f Mr. Bennett th dbt djrnd t th nxt ttn f th . h n. G. V. Lauk (Mntr f En vlpnt r n ttr f prvl rltn t th rpnblt f br fr ft ttd n pttn tn drn th tn prd. Mr. Spr ttd h ld rrv ndrtn f th ttr. lv f th , Mr. Curtis thdr th flln t f Qtn tndn n h n n th Ordr pr: 2 Mr. Curtis t th n. th Mntr f rtn nd Cnrvtn th flln tn: . In h ltn n th rvn, h n r bd hv bn rhd b prtn SAM (Slv Abl Mnftr n nr , 4, t th t rnt dt fr hh nfrtn vlbl? 2. hh rhn plnt( r r bd, lltd ndr th prr, dlvrd? . n rnl dtrt thrht th rvn n prt th th prtnt n th prr? h n. A. B. Macdonald (AttrnGnrl prntd th Annl prt f th .C. rd f rl fr th r 4. h n. Phyllis F. Young (Mntr f Cnr Srv prntd th rt Annl prt f th prtnt f Cnr Srv fr th r ndd br , 4. h n. Gordon H. Dowding (Spr prntd th fth prt f th Spr n th Legislative Procedure and Practice Inquiry Act. Resolved, That the House, at its rising, do stand adjourned until 8.30 o'clock p.m. today. And then the House adjourned at 6.03 p.m. Wdnd, Mrh , HALF-PAST EIGHT O'CLOCK P.M. Mr. Speaker made a statement relating to the accuracy of and the responsibility for facts stated in the course of putting questions during question period. 24 Ez. 2 MAC 6 31 Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the amendment to the motion "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair" for the House to go into Committee of Supply. The debate continued. On the motion of the Hon. rn ln the debate was adjourned to the next sitting of the House. lvd, That the House, at its rising, do stand adjourned until 2 o'clock p.m. tomorrow. And then the House adjourned at 10.57 p.m. hrd, Mrh 6, Two OCOCK .M. Prayers by the Rev. G. ttrn. On the motion of Mr. nntt, Bill (No. 34) intituled Ctzn Inttv At was introduced, read a first time, and Ordrd to be placed on the Orders of the Day for second reading at the next sitting after today. Order called for "Oral Questions by Members." During the question period, by leave of the House, the Hon. rn ln (Minister of Housing) tabled correspondence from Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation to the Department of Housing relating to Casa Loma Motel Ltd. Pursuant to Order, the House resumed the adjourned debate on the amendment to the motion "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair" for the House to go into Committee of Supply. The debate continued. The amendment was negatived on the following division: YEAS-17 Gibson McClelland Anderson, D. A. Phillips Gardom Richter McGeer Bennett Schroeder Wallace Fraser Smith Morrison Williams, L. A.