Nlatla SerIeI, Vol. I. No 4 Tha.... ', DeeemIJer 21. U89 , A..... ' ... 30. I'll (SUa) LOK SABHA DEBATES (English .Version) First Seai.D (Nlntb Lok Sabba) (Yol. I COlJtairu N08. 1 to 9) LOI: SABRA SECRE1'AlUAT NEW DELHI Price, 1 Itt. 6.00 •• , • .' C , '" ".' .1. t; '" CONTENTS [Ninth Series, VoL /, First Session, 198911911 (Saka)] No. 4, Thursday, December 21, 1989/Agrahayana 30, 1911 (Saka) CoLUMNS Members Sworn 1 60 Assent to Bills 1--2 Introduction of Ministers 2-16 Matters Under Rule 377 16-20 (i) Need to convert the narrow gauge railway 16 line between Yelahanka and Bangarpet in Karnataka into bread gauge tine Shri V. Krishna Rao (ii) Need to ban the m~nufadure and sale of 16-17 Ammonium Sulphide in the country Shri Ram Lal Rahi (iii) Need to revise the Scheduled Castes/ 17 Sched uled Tribes list and provide more facilities to backward classes Shri Uttam Rathod (iv) Need to 3et up the proposed project for 18 exploitation of nickel in Sukinda region of Orissa Shri Anadi Charan Das (v) Need to set up full-fledged Doordarshan 18 Kendras in towns having cultural heritage, specially at Varanasi in Uttar Pradesh Shri Anil Shastri (ii) CoLUMNS (vi) Need to set up Purchase Centres in the cotton 18-19 producing districts of Madhya Pradesh Shri Laxmi Narain Pandey (vii) Need for steps to maintain ecological 19 balance in the country Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh (viii) Need to take measures for normalising 19-20 relations between India and Pakistan Prof. Saifuddin Soz (;x) Need to take necessary steps for an amicable 20 solution of the Punjab problem Shri Mandhata Singh Motion of Confidence in the Council of Ministers 20-107 110-131 Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 20-21 116-131 Shri A.R. Antulay 25--46 Shri L.K. Advani 47-60 S.hri Janeshwar Mishra 60-69 Shri Somnath Chatterjee 69-75 Shri lndarjit Gupta 75-84 Shri R. Muthiah 84-85 Shrimati Rajinder Kaur BuJara 86-89 Shri Nani Bhattacharya 89-90 Shri Chitta Basu 90-95 Shri Piyare Lal Handoo 95-100 (iii) CoLUMNS Shri Shibu Soren 100-101 Shri Ibrahim Sulaiman Sait 101-104 Shri Vamanrao Mahadik 104-106 Shri Gopalrao Mayekar 110-113 Shri P.C. Thomas 113-114 Shri .A.K. Roy 114-116 Supplementary Demands for Grants (General), 1989-9<;>­ 47 Statement presented Statement by Minister 108-110 ,e: US intervention in Panama Shri I.K. Gujral 108-109 Message from Aajya Sabha 131-132 Constitution (Sixty-second amendment) Bill 132 As Passed by Rajya Sabha-Laid LOK SABHA DEBATES LOKSABHA (2) The Nagaland University Bill, 1989 (3) The Direct Tax laws (Second Amendment) Bill, 1989. Thursday, December 21, 19S9lAgrahay­ ana 3D, 1911 (Saka) 2. .Sir, I aiso lay on the Table copies, duty authenticated by the Secretary-Gen­ eral of Rajya Sabha, of the following four Bills passed by the Houses of Parliament The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock during the second part of the Fourteenth Session of Eighth Lok Sabha and assented [~,,~R. SPEAKER in the Chair] to since a report was 1ast made to the House on the 11th October~ 1989:- {English] (i) The Warehousing Corporation (Amendment) Bill, 1989 MEMBER SWORN (2) The General Insurance Business (Nationalisation) Amendment Bill, MR. SPEAKER: Secretary-General may ':989 call out the names of Members who have not yet taken the Oath or made the Affirmation. {3} The Snlallindustries Development Bank of India Bin, 1989 Shri Kapil Dev Shastri (Sonepat) (4) ThE: Customs (Amendment) Bill, 1989, 11.02 hrs. ASSENT TO BillS 11.03 hrs. [Eng/ish] INTRODUCTION OF MINISTERS SECRETARY-GENERAL: Sir, I lay on the Table the following three Bills passed by [Eng/ish] the Houses of Parliament during the second part of the Fourteenth Session of Eighth Lok MR.SPE,~KER: The Prime Minister. Sabha and assented to since a report was last made to the House on the 11 th October t THE PR!~AE MIN:STER (SHRI VISH­ 1989:- WANATH PRATAP SINGH): I have the pleasure in introducing to you and ihrough (1) The Appropriation (No.5) Bill, 1989 you, Sir, to the House my colleagues: 3 Introduction of DECEMBER 21, 1989 Ministers 4 Shri Arun Kumar Nehru Minister of Commerce and Tourism. Shri M.S. Gurupadaswamy Minister of Petroleum and Chemicals. Shri Ram Vilas Paswan Minister of Labour and Welfare. [English] [English] MR. SPEAKER: Now statements under SHRI BHOGENDRAJAH (Madhubani): rule 377. The !ssue of US aggression is a non-party affair. The whole House must condemn SHRI SAIFUDDfN CHOUDHURY it ... (Interruptions) (Katwa): Before we take up the other issue, I have to make a submission. I have given a [ Translation] notice under rule 184. Yesterday, a very dangerous thing has taken place. USA had MR. SPEAKER: Alright, the Govern­ attacked Panama and dethroned the Gov­ ment has taken note of your sentiments and ernment there. Now, this has been widely it will do whatever is necessary. condemned by many countries. I think that our Government should also join in the world­ [English] wide condemnation. Even the Security Council is meeting there. And this will also SHRI ERA ANBARASU (Madras Cen­ hetp the members there in the Body to take tral): I have given a Calling Attention Notice a firm stand. I want that the Foreign Affairs that five Custom officials from Thanjavur Minister should make a statement in that have been taken into custody by the LTIE. regard. Nothing is known about that for the last 11 days. What is the Government doing about [ Trans/ation] it? i want the External Affairs Minister to make a statement regarding that. MR. SPEAKER: Alright. I may tell the hon. Members that all their notices would be [ Translation] considered. Right now, I am asking Shri V. Krishna Rao to raise a matter under Rule MR. SPEAKER: Alright. 377. Please allow me to proceed with the business before the House. [English] ... ( Interruptions) ... SHRI ERA ANBARASU: Regarding invasion on Panama also I have given a [English] notice ... ( Interruptions) SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM (Sivaganga): The discussion can take place later on, but I sought your permission to raise in this the Government should make its stand clear. House the anti-reservation stir which is Government should condemn the US action spreading from one State to another. This is of aggression ... (Interruptions) because this Government is speaking in so many voices. Bus services have been sus­ [ Translation] pended in UP. Planes have not landed in Patna. Students have been asked to vacate MR. SPEAKER: O.K. the hostels. The Allahabad High Court has 5 Introduction of AGRAHAYANA 30, 1911 (SAKA) Ministers 6 intervened. The Government is maintaining both in the House and outside it. I would like a total silence on this. They must make a to know whether Shri Devi Lal is behind the statement today as to what is their position. anti-reservation agitation ... (Interruptions) ... PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. As for' American action in Panama kindly accept my Calling Attention on this. Sec­ DR. RAJENDRA KUMARI BAJPAI ondly, I have given notice of a Calling Atten­ (Sitapur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, life has been tion Motion on communalism in the ·country paralysed in whole of Uttar and I have also given a notice of a motion Pradesh ... (Interruptions) ... under rule 193. I want a full-scale discussion on what happened in Bhagalpur and who MR·. SPEAKER: I have allowed only Dr. were responsible for that. So kindly allow Rajendra Kumari Bajpai to speak. that under rule 193. ... ( Interruptions) ... MR. SPEAKER: I will look· into it. DR. RAJENDRAKUMAAIBAJPAI: Life THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION has come to a halt all over Uttar Pradesh. AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF Students are agitating. Two students have PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. lost their lives. Buses have stopped plying, UPENDRA): The Government has taken schools, colleges and Universities have been note of the US action in Panama Govern­ closed down, and running of Railways trains ment has already issued its reaction. I will has also been stopped. Even then the Gov­ request the External Affairs Minister to come ernment is totally silent. I would like to know before the House and make a statement the policy of the Government on the issue? after the lunch break. SHRI LALOO PRASAD (Chapra): Mr. [ Translation] Speaker, Sir, a Bill on reservation is being brought, which will make the position as to SHAI JAGPAL SINGH (Hardwar): Mr. who is in favour of whom. In fact the reality is Speaker, Sir, I have also given a notice. ... ( Interruptions) ... Please listen to me. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Chidambaram, MA. SPEAKER: O.K. Please speak. this is not good. Please listen to him also. SHRI JAGPAL SINGH: I have given a SHRI LALOO PRASAD: The hon. notice on the issue of reservation. In para Member, Shri Jagpal Singh, is referring to No. 13 of his Address, the hon. President Shri Devi Lal again and again because he has said that the period of reservation would was an aspirant for the Janata Oal ticket in be extended by another 10 years and the the elections, which was denied to him by Han. Prime Minister has also made a com­ Shri Devi Lal. mitment in this regard. However, Shri Devi Lal, made a statement on 17th and 18th of SHRIJANAAOAN TIWARI (Siwan): Sir, this month against the extensior. of the Indian cricketers in Pakistan were target reservation ... (/nterruptions) ... which made of brick-batting. My submission to the Gov­ head lines in all leading national dailies. Mr. ernment is not to allow the Indian team to Speaker, Sir, so I would like to know whether play matches with Pakistan in future.