59 PsUUon SEPTEMBER 17.1891 Pers.ExpL under 60 Rul»357 Special Protection Group Sir. I beg to present a petition signed by Shri (Amendment)Blli, 1991 .which D. T. Jayakumar. Ex M. L A. Karnataka and was passed by the Septem­ Shri ChMuunadu. Zila Parishad Member. ber. 1991.* Hunmur. District Mysore, regarding need to 00 I aiTKflrectedto informthe LoK amend the Indian Tnists Act. 1882. Saiiha that the R % a Sabha. at its sitting held on Tuesday, (II) Re removal of disparity between the 10th September. 1991 uitMui and rural population In adopted the following nwtion the matter of standard of Ihr- In regard to the Joint Commit­ Ing', etc. tee on offices of Profit:- SHRIRAMPALSII^(OomariaganJ): Th a t this House concurs in the Sir. I beg to present a petition signed by Shri recommendation of the Lok Sabha that Bhanu Pratap Singh of village and P.O. a Joint Committee of tfie House to be caiiedthe Joint Commitleeon offtoes of Sohna district SMharthnagar (Uttar Pradesh profit be constituted for the purposes and others regarding (I) removal of disparity set out in the motion adopted the Lol( between urt>an-njral population in the matter Sabhaatitesming held onthe 26th July. of standard of living, Itteracy and mortality; 1991. and resolves that this House do and (ii) treating 'Agriculture' as an 'Industry. join in the said Joint Committee and proceed to elect, in accordance with the 13.11 hrs system of proportional representation by means of the single transferable vote, five mentbers from among the PERSONAL EXPLANATION UNDER members of the House to serve on the RULE 357 said Joint Committee.* [English] 1 am further to Inform the Lolc Sabha that in pursuance of the above motion, the SHRI INDERJIT (Daijeeilng): Mr. fbilowing members of the Rajya Sabha have Speaker, Sir, my attentton has been drawn been duly elected to the said Commitlee:- repeatedly during the past fortnight to 1. Shri E. Balanandan separate but shocking statements made against me by two Members of Pariiament 2.ShrbraHKailashpatl of the Sikkim Sangram Parishad. Shri mati Dll Kumari Bhandari in the Lok Sabha on 3.ShrlSomPal July18 and Shri Karma Topden In the Rajya Sabha on July 19 last. Both attacked me on 4. Shri Santosh Kumar Sahu the t>asis of a stalerpent alleged to have 5. Shri Subramanlan Swan^ been made by me at put>lic meeting at Kurseong, whteh is apart of my constituency of Daijeeiing. I was stated to have dedared 13.12 hr* that *The Nepalese have no place in Imfia.* PETmONS Friends,among some veteran members of the House advised me to Ignont the two (i) Re need to amend the Indian Trust Act. 1882 statements. But I now find that these felkiw members and their partons hawe exptoited lE n g m n y dedskm not to formaHy contradid their statemente. Consequently, many innocent SHRIK D. DEVEOOWDA(HASSAN): and fine people in different p ^ of our 61 PBfs. ExpL under BHAORA26,1913(S4/M) Pars. ExpL under 62 Ruh3S7 Rub 357 country tiave been misled, promptlng'nie. anything against a Member of the Rs^ya Mr. Speaker. Sir, to approach you and get Sabha. He is just giving an explanatton to yourkind permission to madcethls statement what has been alleged against him. He today and set the record straight. cannot go to Rs^jya Sat>ha if he is also not allowed to make a statement here, then It I want to make it clear once and for all does not become a part of the record of the that I never staled what has t>een attributed PariiamenL That is why, he is altowed. to me. The statement alleged to have been made by me Is false and fabrteated. (Intem^ftlons) It Is a cakHilated effort to malign and [TmnslaOori^ vilify me. I wish the Members concerned had extended to me, as a fellow Member of SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: What Parliament, the minimum courtesy of wlH t>e its result? Today, Shri Inderjit ki giving checking the veracity of the statement. At a rejoinder to the Utterances in one stage, Mr. To p ^n said in the Rajya ............. made in Riyya Sabha, tomorrow Sabha: ‘Such a statement. If tme, would...* there will be a counter reply In Rajya Sabha They shouM have checked with me before to the statement made by him here today attacking me...(/n«9m<prtons) ...(/fntemyXtons). SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE [TmnsleOoril (Lucknow): Sir, whateverthat has been sakJ in the Rajya Sabha need not be refened to MR. SPEAKER: No, actually.____ here. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAEE: When MR. SPEAKER: A Member of Rajya Sabha has alleged something against him. will this questton-answer series end? He cannot go and make a statement over there. This is why, he is making a statement MR. SPEAKER: l4o Member of this hers. House will be altowed to spee^ against the memt>er of that House. He us giving SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE explanatton in what has gone on record. V (Bolpur): Do not give personal explanation there is any such thing on. (or something made outside...(fri<»rFuptf9ns) Sir, he can go to the pr»ss...(/lnl0mi^ibns) lEngOsNi MR. SPEAKER: I will just read out the H he wants to allege anything against ruflng. It says: him, he won't be aHowed to do that There te a difference between giving explanatton and If the ^legations are made In Rs^ya naking an allegatton, and it is the ruling. Ssdbha againstaMemberofLok Sabha, the latter may be permttted to make a {htemjpHoruii personal ex^anatton to clarify his posltkm." MR. SPEAKER: We wOlappiy our mind. But, these are the luHngs. SHRI INDERJIT: Thank you. Sir, ....{ManupUons) SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur): Sir, It is not that we are just MR. SPEAKER: He te not aHeging supporting anything saM In the Rajya Sabha 63 P^EMpLtmdar S E P T B i ^ 17.1991 Pm . EKfiLmOtr m fU a a S T . A * W |Sh.SomnafthCtiattei)M] redproceiba*. I amadseaiMMflrihirfiiet that many Napideee^hwre asrvecl ln 'tlie against tiw Member of the Lok Sabha. Not mdtan Am y ftwn the drUsh flnriM i M that The c^jeslion is how it is to tw deait continue to do so tier l o i ^ in the Q oiMm wtth? (Iniemiotfon^. Regiments. We In India hsMe evsty mason to be grateful to themfortheirsacdHoasiM MR. ^>EAKER: This is exactly whitt i een^ioes. Few bi ttie woM can equal Iheir have read out to you. If ttie allegations are vatour. I am glad ourown Qoridiasare now made in Rajya Sabha against a Member of coming forward in iaiger mmters to seive Ssdiha, the latter may be pemnltted to theb-motheiland. There is noquestton of my make a personal expianatton, to clarify his ever casting any asperston on the toyaly of posRton. This IsaRuHng given on30 August, ttiese Jawans. 1969. Tim e is a IRuling given also on 1 April. 1970 and there is athiid Ruling given on 4 Finally. Mrs. Speaker. Sir. I have been April. 1970. There are many Rulings. accused of trying to cflvMe more than 10- miUton Nepali-speaverkftig people. Nothing SlIRi INI3ER JfT: Thank you. Sir. for couklbeforlherfromthetnjth.True. Idraw uphoMing justice, {tttamptkms). aciearaisttncnon— —t---- A*-------Al--- between■- - «----- Indians---■ - -----— and -nonoe -■-----» --- for-lndians. We have this in India persons SKRiK.P.UNNIKRiSI-INAN(Bagdora): win are Indints andtiiosewhoare Nepalese. What are the poiitk»i cempuistons? You Both have their respective places in M ia. cannot bdng In a personal exptenatlon. One as Indian nattonals and ^ other as (kitemptton^ Nepalese under the Indo-Nepai Treaty. There is no scope for any confusion. SHRi INDER JIT: K has been my pleasure, indeedto haveknow Mrs. Bhandari I request both Shri KaumaTopden and well during the past few years and so also Shrimati Oil Kumarl Bhandari and their Mr. Topden.whomifirst met as the Secretary supporters to stop maligning me. to the SMdm Chief Minister In Gangtok. I know ttiey have their personal and poiitk»l SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR (BaiHa): computekms. Both are aware of my role as Mr. Speaker. SJr, 1 amsony you have allowed a mecHator in bringing about the t>wjeeli(^ him. But. he cannot make a statement on Accord. They know on too well my affectton Indo-Nepalese rslattons in seif-expianatton. foriythefine people of the Daijeeinghllis and I do not know what he Is talking of? my commitment to dobig my best forgetting {Interruptions). Mr. Speaker. Sir, I am them tong-delayedfalrpla^ and Justice. Both speaking. I amfiHUng thattiiis istoodelcate know equally well thcrt it is the tove and amattertobedealtwithbythehon.Mennber. affectkMi of ttie people of the Daijeellng hill He shouW make a statement and he shouM areas that has enabled me to win the Lok say that he has no disregard or disrespect Sabha electkm Mrith a huge majority twice In for Nepalese. But he has quoted bido- two year»4n 1989 and again In May iJ »L NepaieseTrealy and ay that Has he known the implcattons of what he is siQfing in this The indo4lepal Treaty grants to the Mouse?HaveyouconsUeredtheknpiicaUon Nepalese bilmfiaandtothe Indians k)N^)al of what is contained in his statement? And certain reciprocal rights in regard to how does it come under seif-explanatkNi, -l resMmoe. tiade and emptoyment. etc. Tlie do not know. Nepalese y e fuUyenHaed to reskte in India m d these lights and piitHieges on a IrecogniBettie right of sel^qiianadon., «5 Bik*.B9>Lim(hr flHW3RA26.1013(S«M4) P M ».E x p L m ^ 66 AUlraS/ TheWleirtber h eniiiM » about tfw wiioto Jndo-ttopalM} ratatiofit and tlw NapalM* In India.