FINAL FANTASY EXPLORERS Community Discussions Stagger Lanayru79 07/08/2017 9:06 PM t Event Closed “whatever this becomes” I'm too lazy to rummage around for my Explorers cartridge, but eventually this post should deal w/ Final Fantasy X being played on PS4. I'm too wound up from reaching the Grandmaster Galaxy in SMG2 right now, and must rant and rave about how obnoxious that game is first. :p WARNING: Spoilers are awfully likely and I'm not marking unless a participant requests it ... E Yeah! e 7 r 100 Advertisement Share this Post 2 Share Embed Comment Stagger 07/08/2017 9:09 PM That there is a fully-faced Ed quote in the subject line. It's under seven words though, so anyone can plagiarize it ruthlessly. 3ds Miiverse doesn't show total comments very conveniently, so I was unaware my last post filled up while I was off in Mario's inferior set of galaxies. I'd really like a defense from you SMG2 proponents to my final indictment of the green star hunt. Why couldn't this E Yeah! e 2 Stagger 07/08/2017 9:13 PM have taken place during the main game, and furthermore, why are they given the whole cut-scene and exit to ship treatment? It's just excessive, and shows no regard for the player's time. Most of them are essentially just presented to the player for going through the stage again and making a sporty jump. I will say that in doubling my star count from 120 to 240, I generally had fun and was E Yeah! e 1 Stagger 07/08/2017 9:16 PM pleasantly challenged. I appreciate the stages to a certain extent, but they strike me as an inferior collection to the original SMG's. Again, my opinion of Mario games isn't all that high to begin with ... Grandmaster Galaxy was awesome. I got the 241st star and 49th comet coin, but that's where I'm stopping for now. Going through that unscathed w/ no checkpoints is not what I'd consider a reward E Yeah! e 0 Stagger 07/08/2017 9:20 PM for the time I've spent getting that far. It's cruel and unusual punishment. In conclusion to Mario jabber, playing the Wii titles did convince me that Odyssey will be worth my time eventually, but conversely, mainly reaffirmed my suspicion that Sunshine is probably the SMB for me. Hope that makes the Switch VC ... Tomorrow, FFX. Bile succesfully purged. :p E Yeah♥ e 1 Blake 07/08/2017 9:23 PM Screenshot for color. I actually rather liked this game. I should finish off some of the DLC sometime, even if it is by myself. With ZNGers would be better, of course. Also, this comment is a rehollad because it was upsetting seeing one white comment breaking up your thoughts. E Yeah! e 0 D Stagger 07/08/2017 9:23 PM Oh Blake-chan ... the only way I'd play more of this is w/ Zaganaga's Nefarious Gasbags. Definitely open to doing so, but you must summon. E Yeah! e 0 Blake 07/08/2017 9:28 PM And I forgot the screenshot in the reupload. My appreciation for this game is probably 80% because of the ZNG. The other 20% is probably fond memories because of the ZNG. E Yeah♥ e 2 D Rau 07/08/2017 9:29 PM I need to get sunshine for my game cube. I don't even know how I haven't olayed that yet. I remember getting to the last level of mario galaxy ages ago, but the only mario ive EVER beaten is the first NES one. I like that one. All in all I'm not much of a mario fan. E Yeah! e 1 Stagger 07/08/2017 9:36 PM Do you fancy any other platformers Rau? I don't like Sonic, heh. Old time Crash was good. DKTCF and Shovel Knight are the best. Now that I've played SMG2, Sunshine and 3D World are the only two main series, console titles I haven't played and finished. I'm tough to please at this point in gaming life, when it comes to pure platformers and RPGs especially. *shrug* E Yeah! e 3 Rau 07/08/2017 9:51 PM I very much enjoyed Kero Blaster. I've never played a DK game, but my friend has a cartridge i can get for a steal. I have some fond memories of Prince of persia. I have a feeling sands of time may hold up well. I do plan to play sly cooper, but honestly it's not my genre. I'm trying so hard to think of platformers but I'm drawing blanks. I oft confuse the genre with collectathons E Yeah! e 0 Rau 07/08/2017 9:54 PM If one could call cave story a platformer than I'd nominate that alongaide kero blaster. Both have great worlds and storylines for their genre. Oh! Yoshi games intrigue me, and I'll give an opinion when i get my hands on wooly world. Shovel knight was one heck of a game. E Yeah! e 1 Stagger 07/08/2017 10:02 PM Captain Toad can't jump. I think that eliminates it from the genre. Metroid, modern Castlevania and their ilk are given a distinction despite subsuming most of platforming's elements. Item locked instead of stage locked progression is the discrepancy. Cave Story falls w/in that niche, right? Ergo, not a pure platformer ... E Yeah! e 0 Rau 07/08/2017 10:10 PM Alas then, the genre becomes more barren. I think kero blaster and shovel knight may be my favourites in this case. Care to illuminate me on your issues with RPGs? I'd love to hear. E Yeah! e 1 Christian 07/08/2017 10:15 PM I daresay 3D World will impress you. Compared to many other games that came around the same time, it's great, but compared to the whole of the 3D Mario scene, it's one of the weakest. Didn't stop me from enjoying it, though. One of the highlights was the inclusion of Captain Toad levels. My green star argument is the devs were very intentional about how the stars might impact players. Including E Yeah! e 1 Stagger 07/08/2017 10:18 PM Much more muddied genre - to me, Souls, LoZ, and a number of other games are incorrectly lumped in w/ RPGs when they are in fact action/adventure games. In video gaming, to me RPG means indirect combat when it comes to player input. I select my action from a menu, palette, what have you, and watch it unfold, rather than see simultaneous results of my input on the screen. The line gets blurrier all E Yeah! e 1 Stagger 07/08/2017 10:23 PM the time there. Give Final Fantasy XV a shot, heh. Still, I'm just not okay w/ The Witcher III and Shadow of Mordor being in the same genre w/ Earthbound and Dragon Quest. I'm much more forgiving about action/adventure games, whether they are open world or more stage to stage. So to get to the point, my problem playing RPGs is I'm incredibly bored in traditional turn-based combat. E Yeah! e 2 Christian 07/08/2017 10:27 PM them in the main game would remove any semblance that the stars are, in fact, meant to be a reward for the player. The simple act of rewarding the player with the ability to collect the stars *after* completing the main game is an important one, because it communicates that the player has accomplished something big and they are now being promoted. E Yeah! e 0 Rau 07/08/2017 10:32 PM Rpg should only mean what it stands for. It is an element rather than a genre. Role playing game. Action adventure rpg, turnbased rpg, but instead we now use the terms western and jrpg as if they actually help us identify something. Which they really don't. E Yeah! e 3 Stagger 07/08/2017 10:33 PM That's a fair rebuttal to my critique Christian. I didn't feel special or advanced though. I felt like the game had been padded, and perhaps moreso than any game I've ever played. Double the objectives just to look back through the same 48 stages I've just played and make two or three fancy jumps? One at a time? Bother and balderdash. E Yeah! e 0 Stagger 07/08/2017 10:37 PM Right right right Rau. I mean, I grew up playing the dice and character shhet variety ... but your larger point is spot on. Every game involves playing a role. It's all mumbo-jumbo at this point. I just know playing Final Fantasy or Xenoblade does not feel like playing Mass Effect or Red Dead. They can't all be RPGs. The shame is it's too late to get the term out of the culture. E Yeah! e 0 Rau 07/08/2017 10:37 PM On the subject of being bored in turn based games.. that's hard for me to say. It took me a long time to beat ffX. I both loathed the slow monotany and adored the difficult strategic segemnts. I also seem to enjoy turn based strategy titles like the GBA fire emblems. I prefer static combat, but I find during busy times in my life, that i like to slowly tackle these games at a different pace.