- Salfords and Sidlow Parish Council Minutes ONLINE 8 March 2021 Meeting opened at 7:30pm and closed at 8.10pm Email: [email protected] Website: www.salfordsandsidlowpc.org.uk Councillors (Cllrs) present: Apologies: Attending: Cllr James Allen (JAll) 2members of public Cllr Jim Blackmore (JB) Cllr Martin Burton (MB) Cllr Wayne Clarke (WC) Chairman Apologies Cllr Caroline Clarke (CC) Dave Brown Cllr Paul Edwards (PE) Cllr Mark Lodge (ML) Cllr Stephen Rolph (SR) In attendance: Claire Minter (CM), Clerk Ref Agenda item Who 21/03-001 To receive apologies for Absence. WC welcomed Councillors and residents to the meeting Dave Brown sent apologies of absence. 21/03-002 Declarations of Interest and dispensations There were no declarations of interest. 21/03-003 Public Notices - Councillors Surgery on Zoom – Friday 8 March 2021 – 19:00 – 19:30hrs - Parish Council Meeting on Zoom – Monday 11 March 2021 at 19:30hrs 21/03-004 Public Question Period WC welcomed residents Sue W and Ian H and thanked them for their time and efforts to clear up the footpath leading from the A23 to the Train Station. A resident asked if the Council had an update on the 2020/2074 - Sawmills, Green Lane, Outwood application. WC confirmed that S&SPC objected sending a detailed response. R&BBC had also been contacted and were proposing to respond. Nothing further had been received to date. 21/03-005 To confirm the Minutes of the Council meeting held on Monday 8 February 2021 The minutes were approved and recorded as a true and accurate record of the meeting. 21/03-006 Planning Applications A Planning Applications See attached Appendix B – February/ March 2021 Planning List with full commentary. 1 March 2021 JB advised 5 of the 8 Councillors attended the Councillor surgery on Friday 5 March when all planning applications were reviewed. He apologised to JA and ML who appeared to be in the ‘waiting room’ but could not get them into the meeting. The Councillors agreed to respond to 3 planning applications with 2 object and 1 no objection with comment. B Planning decisions made by R&BBC Refer to Sheet 328 March 2021. There were 4 planning applications: ▪ 2 Approved ▪ 1 refused ▪ 1 No EIA needed C Redhill Aerodrome APP/L3625/C/18/3217679 Redhill Aerodrome Ltd The land at Taxiway C/D, R&BBC and RAL have asked the Planning Inspector to defer the date of the Public Inquiry for the enforcement notice above. This is because both parties have been in discussion and have come to an agreement with planning application 20/01486/CONLA 20/01430/F. New date proposed 25/5/21. Planning Application 20/01486/CONLA 20/01430/F will be going to the R&BBC Planning Committee on 18/3/21. It is proposed the Planning Officer will recommend approval with conditions including one for 85 movements per day. JB/WC and CM have met with Andrew Benson to review the application. AB was advised that S&SPC could support the application if an acceptable level of flights and control was agreed with the planning conditions. But if not S&SPC would have no alternative other than to object. WC and JB highlighted our serious concerns on the high number of flight movements and making recommendation to reduce the number to a more manageable one that will not have such an impact on our residents. This was based on historical data and previous request by RAL in their 2016 application where the request for movements was not at 85/ day. S&SPC recommendation is for a maximum of 6080 movements during the winter months which would average at 40/ day and with a ceiling max of up to 100 in any one day. R&BBC recommendation was 6800 movements at 45 movements / day. Winter months were classed as 5 months from November to March but in recent correspondence Winter is referred to as 6 months from October to March. This would have an impact on the numbers. WC and JB advised A Benson it was imperative to have a unilateral undertaking and cap on flight numbers which were acceptable to Salfords. It was noted RAL were not proposing to use the taxiway in the summer months. It was also important to note there are no conditions on the grass runway and the taxiway is for Winter use. A Benson agreed to review all this. 2 March 2021 JB/WC and CM have met with Tony Schofield (R&BBC Councillor) expressing our concerns advising it is imperative S&SPC are supported on any decision that is made. If the planning application 20/01486/CONLA 20/01430/F is approved the Enforcement Notice Public Inquiry will not be required. It is essential that if the application is approved the number of movements has the least impact to our residents. Picketts Lane D A large static home was delivered to site on 26/2/21. This was reported to Planning Enforcement immediately. All the caravans and mobile buildings are included within the Enforcement Notice so will be looked at as part of the appeal at the Public Inquiry (14/9/21). JB stated he believed there was a ‘stop’ notice on the site which would contravene what they were doing. CM agreed to confirm this with Enforcement. Action ▪ Clerk to respond to3 planning applications with 2 object and 1 no objection with comment CM ▪ CM to liaise with Planning Enforcement as to whether there is a Stop notice on site at Picketts Lane which can prevent any further works CM 21/03-007 Meeting Reports 22/02/21 – RAL Overview with A Benson – WC/JB/ CM – Agenda item 23/02/21 – Your Fund Surrey meeting – CM 25/02/21 – CAGNE Parish Council Forum – JB 25/02/21 – GATCOM extraordinary meeting – SR 27/02/21 – Food Hygiene meeting with R&BBC - CM 02/03/21 – RAL Overview with Cllr Schofield – WC/JB and CM -Agenda item A Your Fund Surrey meeting When making the application it is important to remember it is for capital expenditure – not running costs. There will be further sessions with experts and will cover info such as environmental sustainability, etc. The next stage of the application process is open and Alan Mills, Sustainable Manager at R&BBC, has offered support. B CAGNE Parish Council Forum Guest speakers were Green Jobs for the Gatwick Area Information for the night flight consultation was shared and reminder of the second part for future regime with closing date of 31/5/21 WSCC detailed at GATCOM support for the roll-over of 11,200 and 3,250 flights per season plus dispensations for next 2 years Gatwick Noise Community Forum (NCF) report was shared. JB of S&SPC (north) and Chris Leyland of Slinfold PC (west) will share the seat. 3 March 2021 The NCF workplan has some interesting elements. The one of concern is a study into how the Secretary of State noise abatement procedure (NAP) at night (arrivals joining the final approach at not less than 10nm being removed without fair say from councils that will be impacted. Noise groups have been speaking on behalf of these councils’ behalf without them having been consulted and they seem to be doing this because councils are members of these noise groups. The study seeks to lift the NAP which is being pushed by the majority of noise groups – some noise groups that had voted in favour of this do not receive arrivals. JB confirmed that with S&SPC there are various arrivals procedures at Gatwick Airport, NAP flight design below 7,000ft – CDO operations – keeping arrivals high for as long as possible to reduce noise. The next NCF meeting is 11/5/21. Workplan from the NMB NEX small working group was shared with only one councillor attending from Wealden and community noise group (east arrivals over East Sussex and Kent resident). Environmental talk Webinar with international climate change panel on 24/6/21 on 2nd runway at LGW JB needed to clarify certain aspects of the minutes with CAGNE. C GATCOM extraordinary meeting SR stated he was an observer at this meeting as SSPC is not represented at GATCOM even though we are overflown by Gatwick flights. The significant points raised were: - A comprehensive presentation from Andy Sinclair of GAL setting out current night time flight numbers and all within their quota or limit on these flights. Ian Green, from the DfT, presented the DfT’s position on night flights. He set out the reasons for night flights are not all are commercial. The Chair started the debate by indicating that the GATCOM response had to be balanced in acknowledging health risks from interrupted sleep against the economic benefits that the Airport generated. There was minimal support for wanting total night flight ban whilst some wanted QC2 (Quote Count) category aircraft banned from night flights. Some commented that the majority of night flights are leisure orientated and others gave an example of a recent football special flight that came into Gatwick at around 03.30 am and flew out some 45 minutes later. There were comments about noise interrupting sleep patterns and potential risks to health, whilst others were dismayed that the DfT were proposing another two-year extension to the current night flight regime in effect the airlines have benefitted from the ‘laxity’ of the current arrangements for at least 7 years. Towards the end of the debate Paula Street, the Deputy Secretary for GATCOM, introduced comments received by her office. One of the 4 March 2021 comments was about greater emphasis on recording high level Single Event Levels of noise as the draft response was rather lacking.