11/19/2019 EPA Committee 1 ENVIRONMENT, PLANNING & AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE 2 3 OF THE 4 5 SUFFOLK COUNTY LEGISLATURE 6 7 MINUTES 8 9 10 11 A meeting of the Environment, Planning & Agriculture Committee of 12 the Suffolk County Legislature was held in the Rose Y. Caracappa 13 Legislative Auditorium of the William H. Rogers Legislature 14 Building, 725 Veterans Memorial Highway, Smithtown, New York on 15 November 19, 2019. 16 17 18 19 MEMBERS PRESENT: 20 Leg. Kara Hahn, Chairperson 21 Leg. Al Krupski, Vice Chair 22 Leg. Sarah S. Anker 23 Leg. Thomas Muratore 24 Leg. Bridget Fleming 25 Leg. Thomas Cilmi (excused absence) 26 27 28 29 ALSO IN ATTENDANCE: 30 Sarah E. Simpson, Counsel to the Legislature 31 Jessica Nowak, Assistant Counsel/Legislature 32 Amy Ellis, Chief Deputy Clerk/Legislature 33 Laura Halloran, Budget Review Office 34 Elizabeth Stroehlein, BRO 35 Sarah Lansdale, Director/Department of Planning 36 Melissa Kangas, Department of Planning 37 Janet Longo, Real Property Acquisition & Management 38 Frank P. Castelli, Economic Development & Planning 39 Darnell Tyson, Acting Commissioner/DPW 40 Catherine Stark, Aide to Leg. Krupski 41 Dorothy Cavalier, Aide to Leg. Anker 42 Irene Donohue, Aide to Leg. Fleming 43 Jillian Kampf, Appointee/Single Use Plastic Reduction Task Force 44 And all other interested parties 45 46 47 48 MINUTES TAKEN BY: 49 Diana Flesher, Court Stenographer 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 * Index Included at End of Transcript 1 11/19/2019 EPA Committee 1 THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER AT 1:44 PM 2 3 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 4 All Legislators report to the horseshoe for the Environment, 5 Planning and Agriculture Committee. If we could all rise for a 6 salute to the flag led by Legislator Anker. 7 8 SALUTATION 9 10 Okay, welcome. No correspondence. Any cards? No cards for Public 11 Portion. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to address 12 the Committee and has not filled out a card? Seeing none, we will 13 close the Public Portion. 14 15 APPOINTMENT RESOLUTIONS 16 17 Appointment Resolutions. Introductory Resolution 1889, Appointing 18 a member to the Single Use Plastic Reduction Task Force Jillian 19 Kampf. (Hahn). Come on down, Jillian. I'll make a motion to 20 approve. 21 22 LEG. KRUPSKI: 23 Second. 24 25 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 26 Seconded by Legislator Krupski. Welcome. 27 28 MS. KAMPF: 29 Thank you. 30 31 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 32 Surfrider has been a wonderful addition to our Task Force. And we 33 were sorry to lose Colleen as she got to go on over to -- 34 California? 35 36 MS. KAMPF: 37 She is part of the national water coordinating. 38 39 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 40 Yeah, she's so lucky to be part of the national effort, sorry. So 41 if you would like to tell us a little bit about yourself and why 42 you would want to be part of our Task Force. Thank you. 43 44 MS. KAMPF: 45 Hi. My name is Jill Kampf, native of East Hampton, born and 46 raised. And I now work for Surfrider as the Eastern Long Island 47 Chapter Coordinator. So very passionate about water quality and 48 environmental issues in my home, in our area; and really excited. 49 I come from a marketing background and real estate as well so I'm 50 excited to put those talents to use not only for the Task Force but 51 for Surfrider and creating positive environmental change. Thank 52 you. 53 54 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 55 Thank you, thank you. So is there anyone who has any questions for 56 Jill? Legislator Krupski. * Index Included at End of Transcript 2 11/19/2019 EPA Committee 1 LEG. KRUPSKI: 2 So welcome and thanks for volunteering. There's a lot of -- and 3 it's a good task force and I have to thank Legislator Hahn because 4 a lot of good has come out of it. But a lot of us have a lot of 5 high hopes for the future of it. And one of my suggestions was to 6 do a survey of the garbage on the roadway to see what -- you know, 7 because I obviously have to do that on a regular basis to pick 8 garbage up. And so anecdotally I have a good idea of what most of 9 the garbage is. So I was wondering as the Task Force would you be 10 willing to conduct that sort of road survey to try to focus in on 11 the next area to focus on for plastic reduction? 12 13 MS. KAMPF: 14 It's possible for sure. One cool thing that Surfrider has at its 15 fingertips is whenever we do a beach cleanup, we catalog -- we're 16 recording everything that we find and there's no reason why we 17 couldn't take that to the road. 18 19 LEG. KRUPSKI: 20 So what you're finding on the beach could be sourced who knows 21 where? What you're finding on the road is coming right from people 22 driving so it's really -- it'd be easier to see where the source is 23 on the roadways. 24 25 MS. KAMPF: 26 A cool feature of the tool is that it has a map and you're able to 27 then share it directly to social media and other places where you 28 can make that data publicized. 29 30 LEG. KRUPSKI: 31 Thank you. 32 33 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 34 I also have found -- I use an app when I do beach cleanups, which I 35 do very frequently, from the Ocean Conservancy, which I think I was 36 showing you at the last -- our last Task Force meeting. So, we 37 catalog, you know, you click each time you pick up a cigarette 38 butt, you click; you pick up a straw, you pick up a battle cap, 39 bottle, etcetera, etcetera. There was, I think, 25 different-- 40 divisible by three so 21 different categories. But what's 41 interesting, what I found interesting which we were talking about, 42 is that it kind of depends on where you are. So when I clean up 43 Smithtown Bay area, I rarely find a cigarette butt, when I clean up 44 the Port Jeff Harbor beaches, cigarette butts all the time and I 45 can't explain -- 46 47 LEG. KRUPSKI: 48 Are you emptying your ashtray on that road that's there? 49 50 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 51 (Laughter) And, you know, depending -- and if you're at a 52 intersection, because we do cleanups at the Stony Brook Railroad 53 Station which is along 25A in the Stony Brook/Setauket area, if you 54 do cleanups at an intersection where there's a stoplight, you're 55 more likely to see cigarette butts. You're more likely to see all 56 kinds of trash because people think, oh, my car is stopped, I * Index Included at End of Transcript 3 11/19/2019 EPA Committee 1 should throw junk out the window for some reason, including 2 cigarette butts. 3 4 But my point being it will depend on where you are as to what is 5 most often found, but certainly, you know, please remember when you 6 come to the next committee meeting, and I'll make a note myself, 7 hopefully we'll remember (inaudible) as well that we will discuss 8 some sort of roadsides or bay and/or look to some of the 9 organizations that do roadside cleanups if they track that 10 information here in Suffolk County already. It may already be 11 being done. I certainly -- I see a huge difference between the 12 National Ocean Conservancy numbers, the percentages of different 13 types of trash nationally and what I find in the few beaches in my 14 district that I clean up. You know, there are a couple of 15 categories that I see much more often than are seen nationally. 16 And so it is very interesting to look at. And local surveys would 17 be very informative. 18 19 LEG. KRUPSKI: 20 Thank you. 21 22 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 23 Any other questions? Okay. So, we have a motion and a second. 24 All those in favor? Opposed? Abstentions? 1889 is approved. 25 (VOTE: 5-0-0-1. ABSENT: LEG. CILMI) 26 27 Jill, you do not need to come to our meeting of the full 28 Legislature, which is next week, because you came here. So, we'll 29 let you know whether or not it passes; it's more than likely to. 30 Usually the full Legislature takes the advice of the Committee, but 31 we will let you know. 32 33 MS. KAMPF: 34 Great. Thank you. 35 36 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 37 Thank you. Look forward to working with you. 38 39 Okay, we have no presentations today. Okay. No tabled 40 resolutions. 41 42 INTRODUCTORY RESOLUTIONS 43 44 Introductory Resolution 1864, Authorizing the acquisition of 45 Farmland Development Rights under the New Suffolk County ¼% 46 Drinking Water Protection Program (effective December 1, 2007) for 47 the Brookhaven Nursery, Inc. Property - Town of Brookhaven (SCTM 48 No. 0200-751.00-01.00-007.001 p/o). (Co. Exec.). 49 50 LEG. FLEMING: 51 Motion. 52 53 CHAIRPERSON HAHN: 54 Motion by Legislator Fleming; seconded by Legislator Muratore. On 55 the motion we have Director Lansdale here and -- hello. 56 * Index Included at End of Transcript 4 11/19/2019 EPA Committee 1 DIRECTOR LANSDALE: 2 This property is located south of Sunrise Highway east of Barnes 3 Road in the Hamlet of Brookhaven, Town of Brookhaven.