Fishmonger 1911 This group, with 21 household in the 1911 census, is descended from Elizabeth Kipling, via her sons Lionel and James. Elizabeth was most likely the daughter of Joseph and Mary Kipling (see “Staindrop 1911”). Lionel and some of his descendants were fishmongers in Bishop Auckland in the 19th century. James and his family were shipbuilders, moving to West Hartlepool, Whitby and, in the 20th century, to Birkenhead. Elizabeth ,---------- ---------------- ---------------- -----|----- ------------ -----¬ Joseph Lionel James dsp? | see later ,---------- ------,------ ---------------- -----|----- ------,------ ------------ -----¬ Samuel Joseph =Jane Anne Lionel John Henry Nathanael = Margaret Ewbank #42 dsmp #28 #37 #35 dsmp #36 #384 | `-------- ---------------------¬ |------- ------,------ ------,-----------¬ |------- ---------------- ------,------ ------,-------------¬ | George Thomas May Rowena John William Lionel Samuel Edward | William #155 #113 Willink #169 #62 dsp dsp | ? #350 |--------------¬ |------- ------,-----------¬ |------- ------,------ ------,------ ------,-----------¬ James John Samuel Henry John Joseph Jonathan Harold Adam Robert | William #32 #18 William dsp #33 Lionel Bertie Joseph | dsp | ? ? #90 ? |--------------¬ |--------------¬ John Adelina William Jack Casmere Theodora #82 #274 Baptisms, Teesdale District - Record Number: 711777.0 Location: Barnard Castle Church: St. Mary Denomination: Anglican 22 Sep 1805 Joseph Kipling of Bishop Auckland, born 3 Mar, illegitimate son of Elizabeth Kipling (single woman, native of Sunderland) Baptisms, Auckland District - Record Number: 782009.0 Location: Auckland Church: St. Andrew Denomination: Anglican 15 May 1812 Liney Keppling [Kipling] of Bishop Aukland, born 23 Apr, 2nd illegitimate son of Elizabeth Keppling [Kipling] (native of Sunderland) 1 Baptisms, Auckland District - Record Number: 628604.0 Location: Auckland Church: St. Andrew Denomination: Anglican 4 Apr 1817 James Kipling of Bishop Auckland, 3rd illegitimate son of Elizabeth Kipling (spinster) 1 Oddly, there is also this baptism record. Was it a second baptism (this time at Barnard Castle) or did the first Lionel die and this was another baby? Was it even the same Elizabeth?. Joseph may have died in Barnard Castle in 1824. Burials, Teesdale District - Record Number: 674457.2 Location: Barnard Castle Church: St. Mary Denomination: Anglican 10 Nov 1824 Joseph Kipling, of Barnard Castle, age: 20 Lionel Kipling Marriages, Houghton-le-Spring District - Record Number: 299870.1 Location: Houghton-le-Spring Church: St. Michael & All Angels Denomination: Anglican 6 Oct 1832 Lionel Kipling of this parish married Mary Ewbank of this parish, by banns Witnesses: George Wilson, Ann Watson They had three children at Barnard Castle, Philip (b 1834, d 1834), Sarah (1835) and Samuel Ewbank (1837). Baptisms, Teesdale District - Record Number: 575556.0 Location: Barnard Castle Church: St. Mary Denomination: Anglican 3 May 1834 Philip Kipling of Barnard Castle, son of Lionel (labourer) & Mary Kipling Burials, Teesdale District - Record Number: 498984.2 Location: Barnard Castle Church: St. Mary Denomination: Anglican 5 May 1834 Philip Kipling, of Barnard Castle, age: 6 hours Baptisms, Teesdale District - Record Number: 575703.0 Location: Barnard Castle Church: St. Mary Denomination: Anglican 20 Apr 1835 Sarah Kipling of Barnard Castle, daughter of Lionel (labourer) & Mary Kipling Marriages, Teesdale District - Record Number: 337615.1 Location: Barnard Castle Church: St. Mary Denomination: Anglican 13 May 1837 William Brownless (bachelor, iron moulder) of this Chapelry married Catherine Ewbank (spinster) of this Chapelry, by banns Witnesses: Lionel Kipling, Alice Thompson Lionel and Mary then moved to Bishop Auckland. Baptisms, Auckland District - Record Number: 863065.0 Location: Auckland Church: St. Andrew Denomination: Anglican 2 Dec 1839 Catherine Kipling of Fore Bondgate, child of Lionel (quarryman) & Mary Kipling Newgate Street, Bishop Auckland. 1841 Burials, Auckland District - Record Number: 1015472.2 Location: Auckland Church: St. Andrew Denomination: Anglican 26 Dec 1842 Catherine Kipling, of Bishop Auckland, age: 3 Durham County Advertiser - Friday 13 January 1843 Their further children included Joseph (1846), Lionel (1848), John Henry (1851) and Nathanael/Nathan (1854). Bishop Auckland 1851 Durham Chronicle - Friday 18 September 1857 Durham Chronicle - Friday 29 January 1858 Durham Chronicle - Friday 20 August 1858 65 Newgate Street, Bishop Auckland. 1861 Newcastle Journal - Monday 06 September 1869 Clayton Street, Bishop Auckland. 1871 Northern Echo - Tuesday 20 April 1875 York Herald - Thursday 15 March 1877 18 Thompson’s Cottages, Bishop Auckland. 1881 1 Saddler St., Bishop Auckland. 1891 Thomas Patterson had married Mary Elizabeth Kipling, John William senior’s sister, in 1875. Lionel died in 1895 Samuel Ewbank Samuel married Mary Gilroy/Kilroy at St Andrew Auckland in October 1861. They had sons John William, Lionel, Samuel and Edward. Mary died in 1870. Edward died in 1871 and Samuel jnr. in 1872. In 1871 and 1881 Samuel was living with his father (see above). Clayton Street, BA. 1891 Samuel died at Bishop Auckland in 1921 although his intervening history is as yet undiscovered. John William John William initially worked as a herbalist in Gateshead, where a son James was born (I have not found any record of a marriage, however). They were briefly in Glasgow… Glasgow 1881 …followed by spells in Hartlepool, where a second son was born… Baptisms, Hartlepool District - Record Number: 867428.0 Location: Hartlepool (West) Church: St. James Denomination: Anglican 17 Jun 1885 John William Kipling of Tennant St., born 1 Jun 1885, child of William (herbalist) & Elizabeth Kipling … and Bishop Auckland, where he died aged 18 months at his uncle’s house (for whom see 1891 census record above). Name: John William Kipling Gender: Male Burial Date: 28 Dec 1886 Burial Place: Auckland-St. Andrew, Durham, England Age 1 The trail then goes cold, until James married in 1902, curiously naming his father as Thomas William and stating that both he and his father were ‘artistes’. James’s occupation was expanded to ‘music hall artist’ when a son was born. Casmer (or Casimer) was the second name of Wilhelmina’s father. Daughters Adelina Theodora (1903) and Margaretta Florence (1904) preceded him. James was then describing himself as a labourer. St Paul’s, Middlesbrough. St Paul’s, Middlesbrough. In 1911, John Casmere was living in lodgings(#82)…. .. and sister Adelina was living with her maternal grandfather (#274). It seems likely that William and Elizabeth were the couple describing themselves as ‘medical specialists’ in Widnes, Lancs at this time and claiming to have been born in New York (#169). This is because cousin Martha Snowden was born Martha Kipling, the daughter of Joseph Kipling (#43), who married a Frederick Snowden. Mary E Snowden was their daughter. Who knows what snake-oil he they were peddling! What happened to William and Elizabeth after this is not known. However, son James served in the army during WW1. Adelina married in 1930; her mother and her sister Margaretta were witnesses. James was still working the music halls in 1939. The Hub, Welburn, Kirkbymoorside 1939 (note the day and month of birth coincide with those on his birth certificate, even though the year is advanced by one – also the “KOY[LI]” (King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry) Sunnyside, Stokesley. Yorks. 1939 Daughter Margaretta was working in Doncaster. 125 Thorn Road, Doncaster. 1939 James died in 1950, his death certificate showing that he was a ventriloquist. Leonora died in 1975 in Cleveland district. These are likely to be earlier newspaper references to James: . Durham County Advertiser - Friday 11 May 1906 Walsall Observer, and South Staffordshire Chronicle - Saturday 09 September 1916 Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer - Saturday 06 August 1921 John Casmere Kipling John married in 1938. Name: John C Kipling Spouse: Christina M Costelloe Marriage: Sep 1938 - Durham Eastern, Durham Other: QMar-Jul-Aug-Sep 1938 In 1939 he was an ambulance driver in Essex. Dagenham 1939 17 Linden Gardens, Chiswick. 1948 John emigrated to Australia in 1952 (see ‘The Kiplings of Australia’), as did his sister Margaretta in the late 1970s. Lionel Lionel married Elizabeth Howe in 1883. He followed the family trade and was fishmongering in Clayton Street in 1891 and 1901, with sons Samuel (1884), Henry (1885) and John W (1892). Baptisms, Auckland District - Record Number: 850619.0 Location: Bishop Auckland Church: Wesleyan Methodist Circuit Denomination: Methodist 14 Jul 1896 Ada Kipling of Clayton St., Bishop Auckland, born 20 Jun 1896, daughter of Lionel & Elizabeth Kipling He also made the news from time to time. Northern Echo - Tuesday 16 February 1892 Northern Echo - Saturday 07 April 1894 Tuesday 29 September 1896 , Northern Echo And so did son Henry. Northern Echo - Tuesday 27 October 1896 In 1911, he was living with daughter Elizabeth Ann and her family at Tudhoe (#62) Lionel died in 1928. Henry Henry probably married Mabel Forbes in 1907. In 1911, they had two sons (#18). 1939. Gurney Valley. BA Henry probably died in 1945. 1939. Low Melbourne St, BA. William died in 1994. I have been unable to trace any records of “Jack”. Samuel Samuel joined the East Yorkshire Regiment as a reservist in 1909, quickly getting in to trouble on his initial training. Driffield Times - Saturday 06 February 1909 In 1911, he was unemployed and boarding locally