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MODERN MASTERS VOLUME TWENTY-SEVEN: RON GARNEY By Jorge Khoury & Eric Nolen-Weathington Modern Masters Volume Twenty-Seven: RON GARNEY Table of Contents Foreword by Howard Porter . 4 Part One: Ron Throws His Hat into the Ring . 6 Part Two: From Unknown to Suddenly in Demand . 15 Part Three: The Good Soldier . 31 Part Four: Branching out in Art and Life . 50 Interlude: Friends and Colleagues . 67 Part Five: The Real Ron Garney Shines Through . 70 Part Six: Storytelling and the Creative Process . 86 Art Gallery . 93 Afterword by Alex Ross. 117 3 Ron Throws His Part 1: Hat into the Ring MODERN MASTERS: Who was the artist in the family? Thing versus the Hulk on the George Washington Bridge. Where do you think that comes from? For some reason the image of the Thing wrapping up the Hulk in one of the suspension cables from the bridge has RON GARNEY: My grandmother was a painter, and my always stuck in my head. You really felt the Hulk being father had some artistic ability. I think what influenced me wrapped up in this thing. There was just something about to draw early on was seeing my grandmother painting. Kirby’s work that had so much weight to it. I can remember When I was only three I was taught how to draw Bugs Bunny. looking at that, thinking he really felt it when he was being I think I saw the attention I got from it. I think somewhere squeezed by the Thing. And I also very vividly remember I have some of the drawings I did at three years old of John Buscema’s stuff. Those two guys, more than anyone Superman and Batman. I started there and kept drawing. else, I remember. MM: Were you interested in comics as a child? Do you MM: Were there any art teachers that were important to remember having books around? you growing up? RON: Yeah, sure. I mean, I grew up in a very rural area, so RON: My art teacher in grammar school, and actually he there wasn’t a lot became my art of access to teacher in high them, but every school, some - now and then my what, too— mother would come home with MM: The same some comics or a person? Famous Monsters magazine—I got RON: Yeah, into that kind of yeah. He worked thing for a while. at both schools. I was really His name was into Star Trek David Orrell. I early on—in the just talked to him early ’70s I got again on into it after it Facebook recent - went into syndi - ly. I hadn’t spo - cation. And Godzilla—on Saturdays I would watch ken to the guy since probably the late ’70s, and I found him Godzilla movies on Chiller Theater . Lots of different things on Facebook, funny enough. like that. MM: Did you send him some of your comics? MM: You were into Batman, too, right? RON: Yeah, he asked me to. Maybe I could send him one RON: Yeah, the Batman TV show, the Adam West thing. I of these books, too. So, yeah, yeah, he was very influential. loved the opening credits with the comic book stuff. I just I remember him telling me to squint my eyes because it thought that was the coolest thing. You see all the villains would make the composition make more sense. It helps you going by to the left in this sort of graphic shape, and then eliminate some of the distracting details. You can see the with a “Biff!” and a “Pow!” they’d be flying off to the right. composition as a whole if you just squinted your eyes at That was pretty cool, you know? I was drawn to it early on, the piece. I never forgot that, and I do it to this day. If you that sort of graphic, comic book look. see me drawing sketches at conventions, people wonder what I’m doing with my eyes. It became a habit, and I can’t MM: Did you recognize different art styles early on? get out of it. I’ve tried to get out of it, and I can’t. RON: Yeah, definitely. I remember looking at Kirby’s stuff, MM: Early on, where did the desire to draw come from? gosh, as far back as ’60-something. I remember reading the Was it just the attention you were getting fueling that? 6 RON: Back when I was growing up, there weren’t many people around me that drew. I was the only guy at the school. I got the art award when I left grammar school. I don’t remember what happened in high school, but there was a guy one year ahead of me—his name was Jim Lawson—and he actually draws Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles . I don’t know if he knows we went to the same school. I mean, because he was older than me, I remember seeing his drawings in high school, thinking how cool they were. Especially coming from an area where nobody else drew pictures. MM: He works for Peter Laird now, right? RON: Yeah, and he went to Valley Regional High School. I might have talked to him once or twice, but I don’t know if he’d remember me, because I was younger than him, but I remember him and his distinct Kurtzmany style, and thinking how great he was. I had forgotten about him and years later rediscovered him, found out that he was doing all that. It was cool to see that he went into the same field I went into. MM: Did you get to a point where you were tired of comics as a kid? RON: Yeah, I wasn’t into comics that much, I would say, right around high school. I really got into music. I started getting into girls. I was always into sports. I played sports all through grammar school, but that didn’t stop me from geeking out, as they say. Now it’s hip to be a geek, but back then it wasn’t. But, yeah, I was into girls, into sports. I got to high school and played a little basketball, but I got more into music at that point. As you’re growing up, you’re developing MM: But you didn’t stop drawing? new friendships. You go to a new school, and you develop new friendships with different RON: Oh, no, I kept drawing. That’s what I people based on things you’re into. A couple was really good at. I would draw from TV Previous Page: The Hulk of my friends were in a band, so I was all, “I shows. Like, I remember this guy had a TV temporarily gets the gotta learn guitar.” I could play guitar, but show—Captain Bob I think his name was— worst of it in his rematch not really well at that point. So I really start - and he would draw wildlife, which I loved to with the Thing in Fantastic ed focusing on that, because my friends at draw—manatees, dolphins, alligators—and Four #25, drawn by Jack Kirby with inks by that time were into it. There weren’t a lot of he would teach you how to do all that stuff. I George Roussos. guys my age who were into comic books and would sit there on Sunday with my sketch - Above: Ron got to do his that kind of thing where I grew up. So the pad and draw along with him, and I had own take on the exposure to music and sports was more them all pinned up in my room. And then, in classic rivalry in Hulk #9. prevalent back then, as opposed to Star Trek . I high school, I drew and painted and sculpted Inks by Sal Buscema. was the only Star Trek fan in my whole gram - and all that stuff. That’s when I really got mar school, you know? I was looked at as, into Frazetta; that was my junior year. Hulk, Thing ™ and © Marvel Characters, Inc. “Who’s this kid talking about the f-ing Enterprise?” That’s was my experience. MM: What was it about him? Just his tech - nique? 7 been a painter, so my sensibility wasn’t about tightness of line. It was more about the painted cover. It wasn’t so tight. I was more of an abstract thinker when it came to color and form, and that’s what I was really into. When you look at Frazetta’s stuff, none of it looks really tight when you look at it closely. The arrangement of color and the way he laid the brush down is a technique all unto itself, and it’s completely different than doing a tight pencil drawing. MM: Did you find yourself struggling with that Marvel Tryout book, or did it come relatively easy for you? RON: Well, the only thing I struggled with was having no feedback on it to tell me what was good. You know, all my friends and family, and I don’t know how serious they thought I was about it, but they always supported me. “It looks great,” you know? So I was always second-guessing myself, and redoing it, and redoing it, and redoing it. As a matter of fact, I redid so much that I might have even sent the thing in late, [ laughs ] past the deadline, which may be the reason I got a “no, thank you” letter.