December 2017

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What’s Inside First Class Mail Class First The Midget Chassis Editor David Edgar, 1454 Chase Terrace 92020 El Cajon, CA President’s Remembrances . . . . . 3 October TCMG Meeting ...... 5 Rancho Los Encinos Tour ...... 6 Fires ...... 8 Aftermartket TC Wheels ...... 9 October Meeting Minutes . . . 12-13 Presidential The MIDGET CHASSIS Remembrances December 2017 Richard Loe Published in by the TC Motoring Guild can hardly believe another visited historic Southern PO Box Number 263 TCMG year is about to end! California locations, seen Montrose, CA 91021 I It seems like it was only abundant wildflowers, eaten www .tcmotoringguild .org about 2 months ago that Gene Chicago hot dogs, viewed Olson was leading us through interesting movies, had a picnic The Midget Chassis is the “Wheel of Misfortune” published eleven times a year, and parties, been instructed bowing out to the full size game at our monthly meeting . on TC maintenance, learned Classic Chassis occasionally What monthly meeting was about decorating gourds, and that? Oh yes, that was the more . Beside all that, we had All contributions: articles, January meeting! letters, advertisements, and a very pleasant weekend trip to captioned photos for the next Well, a lot has happened since Big Bear Lake, participated in issue should be sent to: that January meeting . Probably an outstanding GoF West, and The Classic Chassis the most significant change hosted Conclave at Morro Bay . c/o David Edgar, the club has experienced for I guess I shouldn’t be surprised 1454 Chase Terrace a long time happened shortly the year is almost over . They El Cajon, CA 92020 after the year began . We were say time flies when you are email: djedgar@pacbell .net informed our traditional meeting having fun, and we sure have place in Montrose would no had a lot of fun! longer be available . That news There is a long list of devoted triggered a scramble to find a TCMG Officers and Chairs for 2017 members who have made all new location . After looking at that has happened this year President Richard Loe . . . . . 818-790-2332 fordydelux@yahoo .com many possibilities, we settled on possible . You know who you Vice Pres . Ron Simon ...... 818-708-2033 simon90248@yahoo .com a new meeting place in Studio are . To you, my sincerest Secretary Sandra Loe . . . . . 818-790-2332 fordydelux@yahoo .com City and have been there since thanks . Treas/Memb Joyce Edgar ...... 619-593-8255 djedgar@pacbell .net April . For the years to come, let us all Director/Web/Events Steve Simmons . . . . (see directory) mail@mgnuts .com Starting with the January continue to wear out the roads! Director Gorden Bundy . . . . . 760-806-3849 gdbundy@gmail .com meeting, we have had a great Ex Officio/Programs Curt Sorensen . . . . . 818-991-6152 curtwlv@aol .com lineup of programs and events . Richard Loe Editor David Edgar . . . . . 619-593-8255 djedgar@pacbell .net We have seen outstanding Historian Don McLish ...... 818-352-3741 dmclish1@hotmail .com displays of members’ cars, TCMG President 2017 Regalia Linda Simmons . . . . (see directory) linda@mgnuts .com Sunshine Chair Bobbie Simon . . . . 818-708-2033 simonbobbie@yahoo .com Hospitality Jan Sorensen & Bobbie Simon {janwlv@aol .com Tuesday, th + Our Nov. Nov 14 Meeting 8:00 PM

Interesting The exact video has not been chosen MG Video yet but Steve is looking through his archives . If you have a suggestion, then From Steve’s please contact Steve at mail@mgnuts . com or call using number in our TCMG Video Vault Directory .

TCMG Meeting Spot 36th Church of Christ, Scientist Community Room 36th Church of Christ Scientist 4032 Whitsett Avenue Studio City, CA 91604

About a mile south of the 101 Freeway Use this and two blocks north of Ventura Blvd parking lot Take the Coldwater Canyon or Laurel Whitsett Ave

Canyon exits off the 101. Valleyheart Drive Wilkinson Ave

Use the parking lot on corner of Wilkinson and Valleyheart. Meet in the River Community Room (labeled school).

BRITISH SLANG LESSONS by Curt

British English Donkey’s years = A long time

Gaffer = The manager or boss Rancho Los Encinos Tour TCMG Annual Meeting and Party November Sunday Evening Sportsmen’s Lodge 12th December 3, 6pm Caribou Room More details with 12833 Ventura Blvd, gathering location TCMG Auction with Larry Studio City and time as well as Einhorn as Auctioneer other specifics will be Select your meal Three door prizes (one in a flyer mailed out. Atlantic roasted salmon with dill sauce $50 and two $25 cash Watch for it. prizes) will be given Sliced tri-tip with mushroom sauce out at the party . Must be Porcini Mushroom Ravioli - with white truffle present to win . cheddar cheese sauce Reserve Early to Meals include salad, dessert, coffee & tea service, Guarantee You a Place tax and service fee and Save too No Host cash bar will be available in the room . Join us on November 12 for a tour of Rancho Reserve and Pay for Your Meal Reservations received after Nov 27, may not be Los Encinos, an adobe rancho built in 1849 on Dinner is $35 each if reserved by Sat . Nov 15 . accommodated . Avoid the site of an ancient Reservations Nov 16th thru to Nov 27th are $45 late decisions if possible, as it creates much more Native American village . The rancho in the shape of a Spanish guitar built Note we only subsidize two meals per membership so if you require more than 2 meals, please contact Joyce . work for the coordinators is located on the original El Camino on a spring by the Garnier brothers in and the meals will not Send checks made out to TCMG or TC Motoring Real route (now Ventura Blvd) in the the early 1870’s . be subsidized . Contact city of Encino (spanish for “Oak”), Guild to: TCMG, 1454 Chase Ter, El Cajon CA A driving tour will precede the Lucy McCanne direct which is named for the rancho . We 92020-8368 and specify your menu choices . event, circumnavigating the original (323-463-9869) . If the will learn the rich history of the border of the 4,460 acre property OR we accept Paypal or bank transfers reservation can be added, rancho and tour the various buildings . use TCMG@TCMotoringGuild .org as the recipient the cost will be $60 . Afterward we will gather for lunch at constructed on the site in the mid to Note that PayPal charges a fee while bank transfers a restaurant adjacent to the pond . late 1800’s, plus the stone-lined pond, do not . Be Generous Check our TCMG The Toy Drive recipient this year will of Children’s Services is not only be the Foster Children’s Resource website for given an assortment of new clothing, Center . Esther Belland has been a school supplies and toiletries but latest info. long time volunteer with the group also the hope that they are going to be and provided this information on what okay . As they leave our Center they they do and what they need . stop by our “Toy Shelf” and may pick Image of the rancho out a toy or book . Right now we need in the 1800’s. Note It is staffed entirely by volunteers Ventura Blvd here. and supported entirely by donations toys for babies 6 mo . to 2 yrs and for from individuals and groups like ours . toddler 2 yrs . to 4 yrs . And Legos Each child referred to us by the Dept . for all ages are really loved . Bring toys for the drive and donate items for the auction California Fires Aftermarket TC Wheels The fires in northern California were devistating. Here are a couple reports from Abingdon Rough Riders who live up there .

Original Dunlop rim with Curt’s wheel on the left and closeup of rim above. rolled edge and note the drain hole. Andrew Avellar was able to get his TC into evacuated at 4:00am and I stayed to help At the October meeting, Curt Sorensen Richard was also surprised when it was town from his Scribe Winery in Sonoma: protect our winery . 25 hours later, along brought over the spare tyre and wheel from pointed out . He had to really look hard to with my two nephews and two firemen, we his TC . Seems this one was different from notice the difference . He wrote: “My wife and I moved the the rest and he wondered what it was from . created enough fire breaks to save all four One thing that always bugged me is I MGTC out of the barn at 3:00am and Turns out it was not an original Dunlop TC buildings on our Scribe property .” bought TC spokes to replace some bad parked it in a garage in town . She wheel but an aftermarket wheel (maybe ones and while they worked on my odd Dayton or MWS) . Everyone focused on hub, some threads were exposed . I had the rim which was just a formed single chalked it up to bad quality control by the layer while the original Dunlop has rolled supplier of the spokes while it was the odd edges . Note the drain hole above . hub that was the cause . But another clue was the hub itself . Curt’s Take a look at your hubs and see if you odd wheel hub had much more pronounced might have an odd hub or even rim . As curvature to it compared to the Dunlop . hubs wore out, aftermarket hubs may have See below . I for one had a single odd hub been installed on your original rim . on my TC for many years before Mike Goodman pointed it out to me . In my case I can only comment on the originality of I had an original rim but not the hub . I what is correct . As to what is better or just had not noticed it all the years . After I stronger all together another subject . Dick Nyquist lost a home and a well as two Triumph 2000s . Photo learned of this I pointed it out to Malcolm big barn full of vintage cars . In the to the right was from a 2010 ARR on his TC and he had not realized it either . David Edgar, TC 5108 barn was his yellow TC (above) as tour . A very sad event for sure .

Bill Young (both a ARR and a TCMG member) from Sonoma reports his home and TC survived the fires. That’s good because his grandson’s two favorite vehicles are the TC and his little pedal car, shown to the right here .

Close up of aftermarket hub with Original hubs with much more pronounced curves. shallower curvature. TCMG Dues for 2018 are Due by Annual Mtg GoF West 2018 21 members (21%) of our members have September 10-14, 2018 already renewed their TCMG dues for 2018 at this point . Dues are DUE on Lake Tahoe, Nevada 12/3/17, the day of our “Annual Meeting” Dues and holiday party . $55.00 USD before June 30, 2018 $60.00 USD after July 1, 2018 As always your prompt attention to this In Spirit $25.00 saves work for the “treasurer” and is Time much appreciated . Of course we still take checks and Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Lake Tahoe cash . $26 for local members* and Use group rate code of “GOF WEST 2018” $99 For additional information: GoFWest.org The Motoring Guild has made it easier by $22 for non local (unless you want room rate plus taxes & fees making PayPal available . Just go to: all local event mailings and then it [email protected] tcmotoringguild .org/membership/renewal is $26) . Or do a bank transfer to: TCMG@TCMotoringGuild org. Send to: TC Birthdays (Build Dates) Note to Everyone - Double check your TCMG Joyce Edgar Nov 18, 1948 TC7149 Allen & Linda Chalmers Directory to see if your info is correct . If you TCMG Treasurer 1454 Chase Terrace Nov 19, 1947 TC4103 Stan & Esther Belland have changed addresses, phones, emails, or Nov 23, 1948 TC7175 David Mathison bought or sold a TC, please inform us so we can El Cajon, CA 92020 update our database . Send changes to Joyce at Nov 25, 1948 TC7220 David & June Simon djedgar@pacbell .net or to address to the right . * Local is zip code 90000 to 93300 Nov 28, 1946 TC1877 Don McLish Nov 29, 1946 TC1882 Ron Wong Dec 1, 1948 TC7255 James Ogden Dec 15, 1948 TC7383EXU Joe Douglass Dec 15, 1948 TC7385 Reed & Phylis Dickinson Dec 16, 1948 TC7409EXU Joh & Susan Hermance 44th ANNUAL Happy 69th, 70th Dec 16, 1948 TC7410EXU Doug & Carol Pelton and 71st Birthdays VINTAGE MG CLUB OF Dec 17, 1947 TC4314 Ernie & Elizabeth Page SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Dec 19, 1946 TC2014 Ed & Dee Koskie ALL MG PARTS EXCHANGE Dec 23, 1948 TC7481 John & Donna Visconsi Dec 30, 1946 TC2040 Tom & Emily Wilson Sunday, Nov. 19th 2017 8am to Noon

For More Information, call: John Seim 949-786-5697 [email protected] Bob Christian 714-998-7281 [email protected] Simmons, Curt Sorensen, Sandra Loe, Joyce Edgar, October 24thMeeting Minutes Mel Appell, Lucy McCanne, and Joel Shapiro . Those nominated and declining were: Ron Simon, The meeting was called to order at 8:10 David Reid, and David Coleman . Ballots will be PM by President Richard Loe . The sent to members by the Loes early in November attendance sheet was circulated . There and need to be returned to Linda Simmons with were no new members or guests present . the results being announced at the Annual Meeting Richard thanked the Simons and December 3rd . Sorensens for providing refreshments for Richard recapped: November 12th - tour, the Halloween Party and Linda Simmons November 14th - next meeting, November 15th - Apple and pumpkin pie for dessert for planning the games . deadline to RSVP Holiday Party for $35 cost, and December 3rd - Holiday Party . Thanks were extended to everyone that Two faithful red TCs make the meeting again made the 61st Conclave a success including The meeting was adjourned at 8:40 for the Simmons and Sorensens for making all the 12th . We will be touring Rancho Los refreshments before the Halloween Party games the arrangements, the Sorensens for hosting Encinos in Encino at 11:00 AM . There began . brunch, and the Thelander’s for leading will be a drive before the tour and afterward Respectfully submitted, the tour north to Morro Bay with a stop in lunch on site at the Lakeside Cafe. A flyer Photos by Sandra Orcutt for lunch . Everyone enjoyed the with details will be sent by mail . Loe, and Steve venue and it was suggested we meet there Sandra Loe Simmons .Thank Programs Chairman Curt Sorensen Secretary again in two years for the 2019 Conclave . suggested the November meeting program You, Thank you We were all saddened to hear that Dick be a video from Steve’s collection or the Nyquist lost his collection of classic cars second half of the video on Los Angeles Joe and Eleanor cleaned their plates in the fires surrounding Santa Rosa, CA in area racetracks which highlights newer race October . venues . The November meeting has been scheduled There was nothing new to report by Chairs for November 14th . Curt offered to send a of the newsletter, regalia, sunshine, and reminder email of the date change to local club history committees . Hospitality members that typically attend the monthly chairs Jan Sorensen and Bobbie Simon meetings asked for someone to bring refreshments for the November meeting and the Loes volunteered . Reports by the website chair and bylaw committee were status quo . Lucy McCanne reviewed progress on the Holiday Party/Annual Meeting plans . She is meeting with the Sportsmen’s Games included Web Lodge representative November 8th to Splat, Hanging Pumpkin Toss, Witch’s Hat Ring Linda does the finalize details. Dinner reservations can Toss, Mummy Bowling, Mummy bowling be made for $35/person until November and Beanbag Toss 15th , November 16th - 27th the cost is $45 and call Lucy for late reservations Annual dues are to be paid by the annual or reservations for guests . The club only meeting December 3rd . Payment can be subsidizes two meals per membership . made by sending a check to Joyce Edgar or There will be a no host bar in our dining by PayPal . room, a toy drive with emphasis on toys The September general meeting minutes for young children or any Lego sets, and were submitted as published in the auction led by Larry Einhorn . newsletter and were approved as written . The new business portion of the meeting Bobbie won the game The financial statement was posted. was consumed with nominations for the competition and was awarded 2018 Executive Council . Those nominated Sandra plays pin the skull on the a Starbuck’s gift card Steve Simmons announced the and accepting the nomination include: Steve skeleton as a tie breaker between Lucy, November outing is to be held on Bobbie and herself Club Regalia

TCMG Car Badge ...... $25 ($30 if mailed) members only TCMG Cloth Patch ...... $5 ($6 .50 if mailed) members only TCMG Lapel Pin ...... $3 ($5 if mailed) TCMG Lapel Vintage Pin ...... $3 ($5 if mailed) MG TC Pin & MG Car Club Pin ...... (inquire) MG TC Color Specs ...... $2 members, $3 non-members, Postage $2 TCMG Photo Puzzles . . . . $15 plus postage (contact Linda for postage cost, design and availability) Vintage TCMG T-shirts . . . . . $15 for short sleeve, $18 for long + postage Modern TCMG T-shirts . . . . . $15 for short sleeve, $18 for long + postage TCMG Hoodies ...... $30 + postage NEW for 2017! TCMG embroidered ball caps are See our website for more details available in two styles – Flex Fit tcmotoringguild.org with modern style TCMG logo, and Traditional with Vintage TCMG logo . Modern Cap Features: Flex Fit cap with spandex rim band Modern style TCMG logo on front with our web address on rear Charcoal Grey with white logo, sizes SM/M or L/XL Vintage Cap Features: Vintage 1950’s TCMG logo on front and “Est . 1954” on rear Available in tan with green brim or solid black . (gold color on logos varies slightly between hat colors for best visibility) Please specify style and color (where applicable) when ordering . Alternate colors may be available upon request . Inquire for details . $15.00 each, plus postage facebook .com/jctaylorinsurance REGALIA CHAIR Linda Simmons linda@mgnuts .com J .C . Taylor Antique Automobile Insurance Prices beyond our control 320 South 69th Street subject to change Upper Darby, Pennsylvania International postage is extra