Nunavut Canada

LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF NUNAVUT

2nd Session 4th Assembly

HANSARD

Official Report

DAY 4

Monday, May 26, 2014

Pages 82 – 135

Iqaluit

Speaker: The Honourable George Qulaut, M.L.A.

Legislative Assembly of Nunavut

Speaker Hon. George Qulaut (Amittuq) Tony Akoak Steve Mapsalak Allan Rumbolt (Gjoa Haven) (Aivilik) (Hudson Bay) Deputy Chair, Committee of the Whole Hon. Johnny Mike Alex Sammurtok (Pangnirtung) (Rankin Inlet South) Pat Angnakak Minister of Environment (Iqaluit-Niaqunnguu) Hon. Tom Sammurtok Simeon Mikkungwak (Rankin Inlet North-Chesterfield Hon. Monica Ell (Baker Lake) Inlet) (Iqaluit-Manirajak) Deputy Chair, Committee of the Whole Minister of Community and Deputy Premier; Minister of Health Government Services Samuel Nuqingaq Joe Enook (Uqqummiut) Joe Savikataaq (Tununiq) (Arviat South) Deputy Speaker and Chair of the Hon. Paul Okalik Committee of the Whole (Iqaluit-Sinaa) Isaac Shooyook (Quttiktuq) Minister of Culture and Heritage; Minister

George Hickes of Justice; Minister of Languages; Minister Hon. Peter Taptuna (Iqaluit-Tasiluk) responsible for Immigration; Minister (Kugluktuk) responsible for Labour; Minister David Joanasie responsible for the Qulliq Energy Premier; Minister of Executive and (South Baffin) Corporation Intergovernmental Affairs; Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs; Hon. George Kuksuk Hon. Keith Peterson Minister responsible for the Utility (Arviat North-Whale Cove) (Cambridge Bay) Rates Review Council Minister of Economic Development Minister of Finance, Chair of the Financial and Transportation; Minister of Management Board; Minister responsible Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk Energy; Minister responsible for the for the Workers’ Safety and Compensation (Netsilik) Nunavut Housing Corporation Commission Government House Leader; Minister of Family Services; Minister Hon. Paul Quassa responsible for Homelessness; Minister (Aggu) responsible for the Status of Women Minister of Education; Minister responsible for Nunavut Arctic College Officers Clerk John Quirke

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Table of Contents

Opening Prayer ...... 82

Budget Address ...... 82

Members’ Statements ...... 90

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery ...... 95

Oral Questions ...... 97

Tabling of Documents ...... 112

Motions ...... 112

First Reading of Bills ...... 113

Second Reading of Bills ...... 113

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters ...... 114

Report of the Committee of the Whole ...... 134

Orders of the Day ...... 135

A. Daily References

Monday, May 26, 2014 ...... 82

B. Ministers’ Statements

010 – 4(2): Budget Address 2014-2015 (Peterson) ...... 82

C. Members’ Statements

030 – 4(2): Happy Birthday, Paul Okalik (Mapsalak) ...... 90

031 – 4(2): Congratulations to Jordan Takkiruq (Akoak) ...... 90

032 – 4(2): Congratulations to Nunavut Quest Mushers (Enook) ...... 91

033 – 4(2): Tribute to Judah Taqtu (Shooyook) ...... 91

034 – 4(2): Recognition of Annie Manning Lampron (Joanasie)...... 92

035 – 4(2): Baker Lake against Suicide Team (Mikkungwak)...... 92

036 – 4(2): Recognition of Elisapee Ishulutaq – Order of Canada (Mike) ...... 93

037 – 4(2): Kugaaruk Fishing Derby (Ugyuk) ...... 94

038 – 4(2): Cambridge Bay High School Graduates (Peterson)...... 95

D. Oral Questions

032 – 4(2): Need for Continuing Care Facilities (Sammurtok) ...... 97

033 – 4(2): Government Liaison Office (Joanasie) ...... 98

034 – 4(2): Follow-up on Constituents’ Correspondence (Shooyook) ...... 100

035 – 4(2): Status of Public Housing Construction in Sanikiluaq (Rumbolt) ...... 101

036 – 4(2): Community Justice Committee (Angnakak) ...... 102

037 – 4(2): Temporary Social Workers (Mapsalak) ...... 104

038 – 4(2): Income Assistance Rates (Enook) ...... 105

039 – 4(2): Bilingual Education Models (Savikataaq) ...... 106

040 – 4(2): Iqaluit Landfill Fire (Hickes) ...... 108

041 – 4(2): Access to Justice Services (Mikkungwak) ...... 109

042 – 4(2): Food Price Survey (Enook) ...... 110

043 – 4(2): School Bus Service at Baker Lake (Mikkungwak) ...... 111

E. Tabling of Documents

011 – 4(2): Office of the Legislative Assembly Business Plan 2014-2017 (Speaker) ...... 112

F. Motions

003 – 4(2): Extended Sitting Hours and Days (Mikkungwak) ...... 112

G. Bills

Bill 02 – Appropriation (Operations & Maintenance) Act, 2014-2015 – First Reading ...... 113

Bill 03 – Supplementary Appropriation (Capital) Act, No. 1, 2014-2015 – First Reading ...... 113

Bill 02 – Appropriation (Operations & Maintenance) Act, 2014-2015 – Second Reading ...... 113

Bill 03 – Supplementary Appropriation (Capital) Act, No. 1, 2014-2015 – Second Reading .... 114

Bill 02 – Appropriation (Operations & Maintenance) Act, 2014-2015 – Health – Consideration in

Committee ...... 114

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Iqaluit, Nunavut Please feel welcome and warmly Monday, May 26, 2014 welcome them. Thank you. Members Present: Mr. Tony Akoak, Ms. Pat Angnakak, Before we proceed, it is one of my Hon. Monica Ell, Mr. Joe Enook, Mr. grandchildren’s birthday. Please have a George Hickes, Mr. David Joanasie, good birthday, Arnaralaaq. You’re 11 Hon. George Kuksuk, Hon. Johnny years old today. I’m very happy and I Mike, Mr. Simeon Mikkungwak, Hon. recognize you in the House on your Paul Okalik, Hon. Keith Peterson, Hon. birthday. Paul Quassa, Hon. George Qulaut, Mr. Allan Rumbolt, Mr. Alex Sammurtok, Item 2. Budget Address. (interpretation Hon. Tom Sammurtok, Mr. Joe ends) Minister of Finance, Mr. Peterson. Savikataaq, Mr. Isaac Shooyook, Hon. Peter Taptuna, Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk. Item 2: Budget Address

>>House commenced at 13:29 Minister’s Statement 010 – 4(2): Budget Address 2014-2015 Item 1: Opening Prayer (Peterson) Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker (Hon. George Qulaut) Speaker. Good afternoon to (interpretation): Before we proceed, can Nunavummiut and my constituents in you please say the opening prayer, Mr. the Cambridge Bay Riding. It’s good to Quassa. be here today to present the 2014-15 main estimates. >>Prayer Mr. Speaker, I rise today to present the Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. government’s budget for the fiscal year Welcome, Nunavummiut and my 2014-15. This budget provides resources colleagues. Please feel welcome, to achieve the mandate established in everyone. Before we actually get started Sivumut Abluqta. We aim to develop a here, I am really pleased to introduce strong, prosperous territory. some visitors from the Newfoundland Nunavummiut should have a positive and Labrador government. They are outlook on life. We will be well visiting us here today. They are sitting in educated and self-reliant within the House this afternoon. Let us all successful communities. We will live welcome the Speaker of the Legislative comfortably in the modern world, guided Assembly, Sean Lyall. by Inuit values and traditional culture.

>>Applause We will govern ourselves wisely and obtain full value from taxpayers’ The Clerk of the Legislative Assembly, resources. We can achieve this vision by Mary Sillett, and the Deputy Clerk of the stepping forward together. We are here Legislative Assembly, Hilda Hunter. to help all Nunavummiut build a future that we both desire and deserve. In >>Applause stepping forward together, we can secure a better future for us all.

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Fiscal Overview approach that meets today’s needs while preserving our ability to respond to Let me begin with the big picture. This developments. The overall picture is budget anticipates revenues of $1.6 reasonably good. Our finances are in billion, an increase from last year of 4.8 good shape, as attested by Moody’s percent. Fully 90 percent of our revenue decision to maintain our credit rating at will come from the federal government, Aa1, in line with most provinces. Our including $1.5 billion, through the economy is growing. Last year, Territorial Formula Financing. The employment rose almost 6 percent, with federal government also provides funds Nunavummiut finding jobs in through transfers for health and social government and construction. This year, programs. the Conference Board of Canada predicts the Nunavut economy will grow Our budget includes about $90 million a further 4 percent or more. Last year, of revenue raised primarily through the average weekly wage topped $1,000 taxes on personal and corporate incomes for the first time. and payrolls. Our revenues from all these sources are growing, which >>Applause indicates that the territorial economy is also growing. With wages rising faster than inflation, Nunavummiut have more purchasing On the spending side, we have allocated power. All of these are excellent signs $1.4 billion to departments, plus $150 for the future. million in capital infrastructure and a further $150 million in capital spending I am also encouraged by the progress our carried forward from last year. The government is making in managing overall spending amount is up from last taxpayers’ dollars. We are positioned year’s main estimates by 4.4 percent. properly to deliver on our service commitments to Nunavummiut. I will provide details on key programs and initiatives in a few minutes, but let Self Reliance and Optimism me describe the overall approach first. Let me turn now to the four main themes In line with Sivumut Abluqta, half of our of Sivumut Abluqta. Our top priority is spending will be invested in health, the self-reliance and optimism that education, and housing, the three pillars Nunavummiut will bring to bear as they of our economic and social development. move ahead in today’s economy. Our Investing in these programs will best people need the capacity to work. They prepare Nunavummiut for the future. must find their way in a modern life that differs fundamentally from that of their In balancing our spending against our ancestors. revenues, we anticipate a surplus this year of almost $36 million and have set The government’s role is to provide aside a further $38 million for quality education and training that contingencies. Prudence remains my prepare Nunavummiut for employment. watchword, Mr. Speaker. It’s an Investments in education and

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 84 employment are the way to reduce In enabling students to complete high poverty, improve health, and realize our school, we should expect that many of destiny. them will go on to college, university, or career and vocational training. Through Quality education and high student improving career training and achievement depend on students’ ability professional development, we have to find the right path at the earliest helped Nunavummiut to find work, but opportunity. The government recognizes we must recognize that education the value of early childhood [education]. continues throughout one’s career. Post- This budget provides increased funding secondary education will also become for early childhood education, including attractive. Nunavummiut should have a nearly $1.3 million for enhanced security wide range of options for advanced systems and program supports. education and occupational training.

Additionally, the Department of This budget provides Nunavut Arctic Education will create an Early College with an additional $1 million Childhood Learning Division to review this year to improve its community and the Child Day Care Act and support distance learning program and establish early childhood programs and facilities. an Inuit Language and Culture Centre of Excellence within the college. >>Applause >>Applause Moving up into the elementary and secondary schools, young Nunavummiut These improvements will better equip face challenges in sustaining their Nunavummiut for employment while attendance. Through our work with integrating Inuit language and culture district education authorities, we will into all college programs. involve parents more actively in encouraging their children to attend While we take these steps to strengthen school. This budget allocates an our education system, we will also additional $1 million to the district address the unique challenges of education authorities. providing for the health and well-being of Nunavummiut. It’s important that we While we are talking about schools and provide an adequate level of medical daycares, let me point out that the service in each community. Previously, government takes very seriously the we focused on the number and type of Auditor General’s comments about health care providers, and now we must adequate fire protection. The focus on the actual needs of our people. Department of Community and Government Services is working with The better we understand the balance the school system to implement fire between the demand for health services safety guidelines and correct all of the and our ability to meet these needs, the problems raised in the Auditor General’s better we can allocate our resources. The report. health department, in spending nearly $300 million, accounts for 22 cents of every dollar we spend. This is why we

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 85 must strengthen our health care developing community initiatives and management to ensure our health system building social networks. It is bringing is effective and efficient. people together with a dedicated poverty reduction fund. Healthy Families, Strong and Resilient Communities Too often, poverty coincides with suicide, criminal activity, and family Mr. Speaker, the success of Sivumut violence. Inuit women experience Abluqta depends on self-reliant violence 14 times more often than the Nunavummiut, living in healthy national average. The government tabled families, and strong communities, the Ilagiitsiarniq Family Violence contributing to our shared future. Prevention Strategy in this House last year. We are now recruiting staff to We recognize the need to support the move forward with that program. individual and the need for community- based solutions to improve health, social At the same time, we must also renew well-being, and local economies. There and strengthen our efforts to prevent are many challenges. Mental health, suicide. Part of the answer lies in our suicide, food security, social assistance ability to provide mental health and — these are issues for too many addiction services in the communities. families. The Department of Health is working to expand its counselling and treatment Investments in economic development services. The government has increased will help, and we can see the signs of funding for mental health and addiction progress. Over the past five years, the services to $15 million. number of working Nunavummiut increased by around 1,700. Employment >>Applause has been growing around 3 percent per year. We will continue to work closely with our partners, including the RCMP, NTI, We need more jobs. We also need and the Embrace Life Council. people who can fill them, but many Nunavummiut struggle with challenges Addiction remains a difficult issue for that prevent them from contributing their Nunavummiut. As my ministerial task skills and knowledge. force on liquor pointed out, there is a Today, two families in five depend on role for the government to play in income assistance. As their poverty helping Nunavummiut to make healthy endures, so do our challenges of food and informed decisions about alcohol. insecurity, poor health, and inadequate These decisions would become education. increasingly important in the context of beer and wine stores. We should help In this fiscal year, the government will Nunavummiut to avoid patterns that lead complete and implement the Makimaniq to individual and social harm. My five-year poverty reduction action plan. department will take steps this year to The Department of Family Services, strengthen the government’s social and working with NTI and other partners, is

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 86 corporate responsibility with respect to all linked to our continuing housing liquor. crisis. Nearly three in five Nunavummiut live in public housing. Nearly half of our In strengthening our families and children live in homes that are communities, we must also find a way to overcrowded. As our children grow up, reduce crime. Nunavut’s rate of violent they too will want homes of their own. crime is at least eight times greater than Our housing shortage of roughly 3,600 the Canadian average. The justice units is a serious problem. department will move ahead this year with the development of a crime By providing us with $100 million in prevention strategy and deliver crime last year’s federal budget, the federal prevention programs across the territory. government has shown that it remains Departmental officials have been willing to help. The Nunavut Housing consulting Nunavummiut in all of the Corporation put $30 million of that fund hamlets about their priorities. to work last year. The remaining $70 million will support this year’s housing Effective crime prevention requires that construction, but the scale of our the police know and understand the housing problem requires a far greater communities in which they operate. The investment than we can make now. The RCMP is stepping up their efforts to Government of Nunavut will continue to recruit Inuit language speakers and to lobby Ottawa for long-term housing improve their own language skills. The investments. police are holding monthly information sessions in all three districts. Their In the meantime, we will do what we can Aboriginal Pre-Cadet Training Program with what we have. This year, the has expanded into Nunavut to attract government will provide the Nunavut young Inuit into careers with the RCMP. Housing Corporation with an extra $7 The police are also working with million, mostly to cover the rising cost Nunavut Arctic College to improve of utilities in public housing and for officers’ knowledge and skills in the additional staff housing. Inuit language. At the same time, the housing Crime prevention will eventually reduce corporation will advance its Blueprint the stress on our corrections system. for Action. The blueprint will focus on Overcrowding remains a serious the need for housing that is more challenge for the Baffin Correctional economical, more energy efficient, and Centre. We have made some progress. better able to meet our population’s The justice department will have a new varied needs. In particular, the housing building in Iqaluit ready by the end of corporation will target the needs of a this year. Looking further ahead, the growing elder population. justice department is developing a plan for a more effective long-term solution >>Applause to the crowding problem.

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Economic Development More broadly, the government is working closely with the Nunavut In developing self-reliance and Economic Forum to renew the Nunavut optimism, healthy families and strong Economic Development Strategy. This communities, our most powerful ally is a updated plan will guide our development strong, growing economy. Ours must not through the next ten years. The only grow, but also diversify so that Department of Economic Development Nunavummiut can choose their own path and Transportation expects to release the to our shared success. Today, that path updated strategy following the leads most probably to a job with the Sivummut Four conference next fall. government, as we are the territory’s dominant employer, but the private Creating opportunity for Nunavummiut sector holds massive potential. also means a stronger focus on the intent of Article 24 of the Nunavut Land The number of jobs grew 6 percent last Claims Agreement. Following a year, with strong growth in construction. comprehensive review and extensive Some 12,500 Nunavummiut earned discussions with Nunavut Tunngavik paycheques last year. Nearly three in Incorporated, the government will draft a five working-age Nunavummiut found renewed NNI Policy. This instrument work. Looking to the last five years, should strengthen the ability of Inuit employment has been rising more than 3 firms to sell goods and services to the percent per year. The trend is positive government. At the same time, we will and now it must accelerate. preserve the government’s ability to obtain the best value for money. We will invest in projects and opportunities that provide our healthy, Successful economic development educated workforce with a wide range of means that we manage our resources choices. responsibly and that we manage wildlife sustainably. Harvesting plays a critical Sivumut Abluqta points to the need for role in social and economic economic development that is development. Our wildlife management responsible and sustainable. This is an system recognizes that our fragile important priority, and the Department ecosystems have long recovery times. of Economic Development and Future generations must be able to live Transportation has several initiatives from the land as Inuit have always done. underway. The Department of Environment will Transportation is central to our way of work this year to complete a life. Health care, education, and training management plan for Baffin Island all depend on a safe and efficient caribou. It will also implement a polar transportation system. This year, we bear management plan across the expect to complete improvements at territory and continue the development Rankin Inlet and to start construction at of a management plan for grizzly bears. the airports in Iqaluit and Cambridge The department will also survey the bear Bay. populations in the McClintock Channel

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 88 and Gulf of Boothia to determine the developing policies and programs and number of bears and where they live. delivering services. We see it as well in our decisions about money. The environment department will also The budget papers that I am presenting complete the renewal of the Nunavut today are the result of thousands of Fisheries Strategy and it will support the decisions involving the elected Members development of new commercial inshore of this Assembly, the public service, fisheries in all regions. Nunavummiut, and other stakeholders. Good fiscal management depends on The availability of land plays an people with the right knowledge, skills, important role in economic attitudes, and resources. Our ability to development. As members know, forecast developments and budget for Nunavummiut decided in 1995 not to our activities is essential to our success. allow municipalities to sell their land for at least 20 years. As we approach that The finance department has been 20-year mark, the Department of holding fiscal workshops with all Community and Government Services departments and public agencies. This is will prepare this year for a referendum part of our work to adopt a standard and on land sales in 2016. consistent process within the government for preparing, analyzing, >>Applause and monitoring departmental budgets. As our internal processes improve, we Good Governance will strengthen our ability to plan further into the future. As members know, we Mr. Speaker, our plans to grow the aim to plan three years forward so that economy, to strengthen families and we gain greater control over our communities, and to foster self-reliance financial resources and improve our all depend on the government’s ability to services to the public. manage its resources wisely. Our government must become very focused This year, the government will fully on achieving the results that implement the Expenditure Management Nunavummiut expect and deserve. We Handbook, which guides public servants will invest our human and financial in making budgets and forecasts. By resources to enable Nunavummiut to live improving the analyses submitted to the healthy, productive lives. Financial Management Board, the public service will contribute to better decision- Sivumut Abluqta commits us to provide making. good government through the wise use of our resources. This means that We must ensure that the Government of government employees need the skills Nunavut provides full value for the and the tools to make management taxpayers’ dollar. Our government will decisions based on timely, accurate review all its programs to ensure they information. are being delivered in ways that are economical, efficient, and effective. We Our approach to good government will also review processes this year for reveals itself in our approach to monitoring grants and contributions to

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 89 ensure that we receive good value from for Inuit in all recruiting actions. The these agreements. government also provides leadership development opportunities, training, and My department will work closely with internships. Our government remains the Department of Executive and committed to achieving a representative Intergovernmental Affairs to conduct workforce. these reviews. At the same time, these We must ensure that our public service two departments will complete the represents Nunavummiut. Through its government’s Human Resources Official Languages Program, the Strategy and implement it this year. Department of Culture and Heritage The government took very seriously the continues to lead the government and observations made by the Auditor public agencies in meeting our language General during the Third Assembly. Ms. obligations. Fraser told us that we needed to do better in identifying human resource shortages Government departments have been and to improve the timeliness of staffing improving language training and competitions. proficiency testing, and expanding training for interpreters and translators. It’s important that we improve our The government has increased its ability to recruit and retain the financial support for publications and employees we need so that we can other media that promote Inuit language deliver programs and services to use in communities and among our Nunavummiut. Staffing vacant positions youth. has long been a challenge. As of December 31, 24 percent of government This year, the government will establish positions remained vacant. a song-writing contest to promote new music in Inuktitut. In the coming year, Through the new Human Resources we will establish an award to recognize Strategy, we will gain the ability to place the authors whose works promote the right person in the right job at the Inuktitut literacy among youth and right time. adults.

It is important to this government that Conclusion we make continued progress toward a representative level of Inuit Mr. Speaker, there you have it. I have employment. Our public service should described how our government will reflect the population that it serves. It marshal its resources to support fully the must embrace Inuit societal values and goals of Sivumut Abluqta. improve its use of the Inuit language. We approach this challenge with As of December 31, Inuit represented 50 optimism and a commitment to make percent of employees in the 10 progress. We are going in the right government departments. The Inuit direction. We are building on the Employment Plan provides departments accomplishments of three previous with tools to increase this number. The Legislative Assemblies. Working measures include priority consideration together, this Fourth Assembly can help

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Nunavummiut to step forward toward a Mr. Speaker, Jordan Takkiruq is a better future. student of Gjoa Haven’s Qiqirtaq Ilihavik School who competed at this Finally, Mr. Speaker, I would like to year’s Canada-wide science fair, which thank our public service. We appreciate was held earlier this month in Windsor, their hard work and their commitment to Ontario. delivering our public services to all Nunavummiut. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This national event brings together students from across the country. This >>Applause weeklong national event is held each year in May. Approximately 500 top Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. young scientists from grades 7 to 12 Ministers’ Statements. Item 4. Members’ compete for over $1 million in prizes Statements. Member for Aivilik, Mr. and scholarships. Mapsalak. Mr. Speaker, Jordan’s project concerned Item 4: Members’ Statements dental health. Using an innovative approach, Jordan exposed caribou teeth Member’s Statement 030 – 4(2): to a number of different substances. His Happy Birthday, Paul Okalik project confirmed the importance of (Mapsalak) promoting better dental health in Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank Nunavut. you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to recognize our fellow MLA whose Mr. Speaker, Jordan’s hard work earned birthday it is today. I hope Mr. Okalik him a silver medal award of excellence has a good day today. Thank you, Mr. in the junior category, a $300 cash prize Speaker. and a $2,000 entrance scholarship to Western University. >>Applause Mr. Speaker, Jordan is already hard at Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. work preparing for next year’s science Member for Gjoa Haven, Mr. Akoak. fair, where his project will focus on how garbage and sewage can be converted Member’s Statement 031 – 4(2): into energy. Congratulations to Jordan Takkiruq (Akoak) >>Applause

Mr. Akoak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I strongly encourage all Thanks for saying my name right today. young people in Nunavut to consider pursuing a career in the sciences, and I >>Laughter will ask all members to join me in congratulating Jordan Takkiruq in his Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to accomplishments. Thank you, Mr. congratulate Jordan Takkiruq of Gjoa Speaker. Haven. >>Applause

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Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. years older than his 16-year-old Members’ Statements. Member for competitor from Igloolik, Isaac Irngaut. Tununiq, Mr. Enook. Mr. Speaker, it is with great pride that I Member’s Statement 032 – 4(2): am able to congratulate such talented Congratulations to Nunavut Quest young men. They have displayed great Mushers (Enook) commitment to their heritage and completed a very demanding race. These Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, young men are truly role models to all Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, people of Nunavummiut. Pond Inlet and my fellow Nunavummiut. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to recognize Finally, Mr. Speaker, my congratulations the individuals and organizations that to this year’s Nunavut Quest first place took part in this year’s Nunavut Quest, winner and three time champion, Andy which recently celebrated its 15th Attagutaalukuttuk from Igloolik. anniversary. This year’s race was made possible Mr. Speaker, the Nunavut Quest was through the collaboration. Mr. Speaker, I founded in April 1999 to commemorate ask all members to join me in the creation of Nunavut. congratulating everybody who contributed to this year’s Nunavut Quest. Mr. Speaker, I would first like to Thank you, Mr. Speaker. recognize Moses Oyukuluk from Arctic Bay and Niore Iqalukjuak, who used to >>Applause live in Arctic Bay and now lives in Clyde River. Moses is still taking part in Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. the dog team races. Members’ Statements. Member for Quttiktuq, Mr. Shooyook. On April 24, nine teams left Igloolik and began a 400-kilometre journey to the Member’s Statement 033 – 4(2): finish line in Pond Inlet. The teams were Tribute to Judah Taqtu welcomed to Pond Inlet and invited to (Shooyook) celebrate their achievement during a Mr. Shooyook (interpretation): Thank closing ceremonies event. you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to recognize a person who is no longer with Mr. Speaker, I wish to extend my us, Judah Taqtu, who started polar congratulations to the competitors from hunting in 1983 by using dog teams back my constituency of Tununiq: Panoele when dog team driving was no longer Okango, Lee Innuarak, and Michael utilized at all. He was able to go and Innuarak, who was this year’s third place raise dogs from an outpost camp. finisher. Mr. Speaker, today, in Arctic Bay, when Mr. Speaker, I would also like to note we saw how the dog teams were able to that Michael was the youngest be utilized, we were then able to revive competitor from Tununiq and only a few dog team raising.

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I would like to recognize him because he was able to receive it during the was able to utilize dogs for 22 years Christmas holidays. It came at a very without using any mechanized form of opportune time when she had entered transportation. Occasionally, we do use that competition. mechanized transportation. He was able to utilize traditional dog teams 100 I would like to encourage Nunavummiut percent. Because of someone like Judah to do artwork. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Taqtu, Mr. Enook was able to recognize people who participate in dog team >>Applause quests. There were other pioneers. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Even though the person is now deceased, Members’ Statements. Member for while he was still alive, he said to take Baker Lake, Mr. Mikkungwak. part in the HTOs. I have been trying to get the HTOs to recognize his Member’s Statement 035 – 4(2): accomplishments, but they never did Baker Lake against Suicide Team formally recognize him. Now I would (Mikkungwak) like him recognized for having been one Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): of the early pioneers. Thank you, Mr. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I Speaker. would like to welcome our guests from other places. >>Applause As a resident of Baker Lake myself, I Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. rise today to recognize BLAST, the Members’ Statements. Member for Baker Lake against Suicide Team. South Baffin, Mr. Joanasie. Before we came here on May 16, they have been in operation and will still be Member’s Statement 034 – 4(2): able to continue with their work. For the Recognition of Annie Manning first time, young people were able to Lampron (Joanasie) make a presentation to their fellow citizens. Christian Tapatai Tagoona, Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank Kelsey Atangalaaq, Dwayne Parker, and you, Mr. Speaker. Good day to Kelly Nasaujaittuq started their opening everyone. I rise today because I want ceremonies with drum dancing. this piece I’m holding here that was made by a person from Cape Dorset. Secondly, with my fellow MLA and This is a very fine piece of artwork Nunavummiut, I would like to recognize because Inuit have great skills in all Nelson Tagoona, who actually gets to kinds of art, whether it be drawing, perform overseas. Through his singing, carvings, sewing, and otherwise, and are called throat boxing, Nelson is giving well liked. suicide prevention messages to his fellow youth. I am very proud of him for I would like to recognize Annie that and commend him for his leadership Manning Lampron, who was able to win on this issue. a prize from the telephone company. Mr. Speaker, her prize was $2,000 and she

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During the last evening of this special I would like to mention another person event, another aboriginal person was who doesn’t live in Nunavut, but he’s able to come to Baker Lake, who is a another recipient of the Order of Canada. comedian, Don Burnstick. Even the My relatives, cousins, and daughter were young people were very happy and were part of Nunavut Sivuniksavut and one of in merriment. I am very happy with my the teachers, Morley Hanson, has helped fellow Baker Lake residents for having many Inuit since 1988 to date. The organize that festive event, so I want my young Inuit people he has helped were fellow Inuit to enjoy life too like they trained by him to be able to get into did. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. careers in Nunavut.

>>Applause I would like to ask for unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Thank you. Members’ Statements. Member for Pangnirtung, Mr. Mike. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The member is Member’s Statement 036 – 4(2): seeking unanimous consent to conclude Recognition of Elisapee Ishulutaq his statement. Are there any nays? – Order of Canada (Mike) (interpretation) There are no nays. Please proceed. Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to Hon. Johnny Mike (interpretation): share my pride with all the MLAs here Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my and my fellow residents in Pangnirtung colleagues. that are aware. Another person who was presented with the Order of Canada by Morley Hanson has helped a great deal. the Governor General of Canada is People like us up here in Nunavut, Elisapee Ishulutaq. although we live in Nunavut, he has helped in ways that we are unable to. I Elisapee is an artist promoting our would like to recognize him for culture through drawings, printmaking, receiving the Order of Canada. Even and carvings. She produces things that though he’s not a resident of Nunavut, we’re no longer able to see in our lives he’s done great work for Nunavut. today from her previous life. She has helped promote Inuit culture through Mr. Speaker, I’ll have a statement about printmaking, drawing, and sewing. She recreation in Pangnirtung tomorrow and has been involved for over 40 years. also marine matters. Thank you.

She was one of the recipients of the >>Applause Order of Canada, and I want to share my pride and happiness on behalf of her. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Elisapee Ishulutaq from Pangnirtung Members’ Statements. Member for received the Order of Canada, Netsilik, Ms. Ugyuk. recognition from the Queen.

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Member’s Statement 037 – 4(2): The 10th prize went to Alexandro Kugaaruk Fishing Derby (Ugyuk) Inutuinaq, who got first prize, and he got a rechargeable stove. Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I say “good Kenneth Illuitok won a 1-burner stove day” to the people in my community and and a backpack. in Taloyoak and Kugaaruk. To my grandchildren in Taloyoak, I say, “I love Guido Tigvareak… . you.” Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask for Last weekend in Kugaaruk, they were unanimous consent to conclude my trying to catch the biggest, heaviest fish. statement. Thank you. The Adluat Committee held a fishing derby. There were 15 prizes. Speaker (interpreter): Thank you. (interpretation ends). The member is The first prize was a four-wheeled seeking unanimous to conclude her Honda and it went to Alexandro statement. Are there any nays? Inutuinaq. (interpretation) I don’t hear any nays. Ms. Ugyuk, please proceed. The second prize, which is an outboard motor, went to David Illuitok. Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): The 12th prize went to Guido Tigvareak The third prize went to Niptayuk, a floe and he got a fishing rod. edge boat. The 13th prize went to Angela Qavvik The fourth prize went to Columban and she got a thermos bottle. Pujuardjok, a queen-size mattress. I’m sure she had a good sleep after winning The 14th prize went to Johaulli that mattress. Inutuinaq and he won a bicycle.

Maria Pia Inutuinaq got a washer. The 15th prize was another bicycle, a smaller bicycle and it went to Rodney Sixth prize was a sewing machine and it Sigguk. went to Lionel Tigvareak. The people who didn’t go fishing had a The seventh prize went to Maria Pia sculpin fishing contest with a $200 prize Inutuinaq and she won a table and and they are: Tannis Kukkuvak, Rhoda chairs. Nasalik, Colin Jr. Inuksaq, George Kakkianiun, and Annie Aleekee. The eighth winner who received a dryer is Gaetan Apsaktaun. I thank the Adluat Committee for holding these fishing derbies in The ninth winner was Jerome Kugaaruk. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Kakkianiun and he got a 3-burner stove. >>Applause

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Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Jorden Lyall Members’ Statements. Member for Cambridge Bay, Mr. Peterson. Mia Otokiak

Member’s Statement 038 – 4(2): Amy Pike, and Cambridge Bay High School Graduates (Peterson) Presley Taylor.

Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Mr. Speaker, these students now have Speaker. I rise today to inform the House one of those valuable treasures we can of a significant milestone for 11 youth in give our youth: an education. With their my community. This past Saturday, 11 diplomas, they now have a greater high school students in Cambridge Bay opportunity for jobs and can enter celebrated their grade 12 graduation with college, trade school, or university of their parents, elders, families, and their choice. friends at the Kiilinik High School. Finally, Mr. Speaker, let’s recognize the Mr. Speaker, I know many of these dedicated teachers, parents, family young people personally and I know members, and friends who motivated how hard each of them worked to reach and encouraged these children and youth their goal. One of the young men in the along from kindergarten to grade 12. class could teach us all a lesson in (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. dedication. He underwent open-heart surgery last fall, and I’m very proud to >>Applause say he persevered through that challenge to reach this landmark. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Members’ Statements. I have no more Mr. Speaker, all of these graduates are names on my list. Item 5. Returns to role models for the younger children in Oral Questions. Item 6. Recognition of our schools. I ask my colleagues to join Visitors in the Gallery. Member Pat me in congratulating: Angnakak for Niaqunnguu.

Kelsey Barton Item 6: Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery Siobhan Bligh Ms. Angnakak (interpretation): Thank Cecily Evalik you, Mr. Speaker. I would first like to recognize my constituent, Virginia Chanda Evalik Lloyd. I also represent my nephew, Pauloosie Akeeagok, and I would like to Amos Fletcher further recognize… . (interpretation ends) I am very pleased to have this Nathan Gray opportunity to recognize a number of visitors in the Gallery today who have Donna Lyall joined us from the Parliamentary

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[Internship] Program of the House of recognize a couple of my constituents Commons. here this afternoon.

My colleague Joe Savikataaq and I had a Ms. Navarana Beveridge eluded my great time yesterday talking about recognition the first time she happened Nunavut and about this great Legislative to be in the House, so I am very happy to Assembly. recognize her.

These young Canadians are currently Also, Mr. James Arreak, I would like to working in the offices of Members of recognize him as well. I would also like Parliament and are in Nunavut this week to thank him for bringing my brother up for their annual study tour. from his new position in Ottawa.

Please join me in welcoming: My brother Brad is here with NTI. He is working out of the Ottawa office. His  Adam Casey, perhaps you can stand. life took a little bit of a fork in the road, and I am very happy that he is back in  Robyn Gibbard Iqaluit, even if it is only for a few days. Welcome. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  Christine Guyot, sorry if I mispronounced your last name. >>Applause

 Sarah Hunter Speaker (interpretation): Welcome to the Gallery. Recognition of Visitors in  Olivier Jacques the Gallery. Member for Aggu, Mr. Quassa.  Avalon Jennings Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As soon as I  Ivan Narvaez, sorry. stopped looking at them, the people I want to recognize left the building.  Jonathan Paradis

>>Laughter  Andrea Stuart, and

Maybe you will recognize their faces  Tim Styles. when they come back. I would like to acknowledge Zacharias Kunuk. He was Thank you, Mr. Speaker. just here a minute ago. He may have been recognized, although he is quite >>Applause tanned. His younger brother Paul Irngaut was here as well. I don’t see them Speaker (interpretation): Welcome to all anymore, but I would just like to the visitors. Recognition of Visitors in welcome them. I remind my colleagues the Gallery. Mr. Hickes. that they are brothers.

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I’m sure you all know Zacharias Kunuk, Rankin Inlet North, who is also the who is the filmmaker of Atanarjuat and President of NTI, Cathy Towtongie. other productions. He is a professional (interpretation) Thank you. filmmaker in Igloolik. I’m sure you know that my community of Igloolik as >>Applause the (interpretation ends) “Hollywood of the North” (interpretation) now. That’s Speaker (interpretation): Welcome to what I wanted to say. Thank you, Mr. the Gallery again. Recognition of Speaker. Visitors in the Gallery. I have no more names on my list. Going to the orders of >>Applause the day. Oral Questions. Member for (interpretation ends) Rankin Inlet South, Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Sammurtok. Welcome to them both, although they’re no longer here. Recognition of Visitors Item 7: Oral Questions in the Gallery. (interpretation ends) Premier Taptuna. Question 032 – 4(2): Need for Continuing Care Facilities Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. (Sammurtok) Speaker. It’s not often that I stand up to Mr. Sammurtok (interpretation): Thank recognize anybody in the House, but I you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct want to recognize Nunavut Tunngavik my question to the (interpretation ends) Incorporated President Cathy Minister of Health. Towtongie, who has been working very hard on a number of key initiatives. (interpretation) Mr. Speaker, Nunavut’s population (interpretation ends) is Sen. Patterson is no longer sitting here, growing steadily, with over 15 percent but I would like to recognize him also. increase in just seven years. Since 2006, Thank you, Mr. Speaker. our population of elders over the age of 65 has grown by over 400 individuals. >>Applause The need for long-term care and support is growing. Speaker: NTI president, (interpretation) please feel welcome and your staff, As the minister is aware, Nunavut has Virginia Lloyd. Recognition of Visitors two 24-hour continuing care facilities, in the Gallery. Mr. Sammurtok, Tom. one in Gjoa Haven and one in Igloolik. There is also a facility in the community >>Laughter of Iqaluit.

Hon. Tom Sammurtok: Qujannamiik, Can the minister provide an update on Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) The what consideration has been given by Premier beat me to the punch on this her department and in collaboration with one. her counterparts in Family Services, Community and Government Services, (interpretation) I would like to recognize and the Nunavut Housing Corporation to (interpretation ends) my constituent in opening another continuing care facility

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 98 in Nunavut? (interpretation) Thank you, are some people on the waiting list for Mr. Speaker. continuing care and they have to be looked after in their own home and they Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. have to be near their community to (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister receive treatment. We’re looking at of Health, Ms. Ell. doing a needs assessment for long-term care facilities in Nunavut. Thank you, Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank Mr. Speaker. you, Mr. Speaker. As I have said, the Department of Health is doing a needs Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. assessment to find out the people who Your final supplementary, Mr. need long-term care in Nunavut. That’s Sammurtok. what we’re working on right now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Sammurtok: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the minister commit to Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. working with her cabinet colleagues to Your first supplementary, Mr. consider building and staffing another Sammurtok. continuing [care] facility in Nunavut? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Sammurtok: Mr. Speaker, I am confident that the minister will agree that Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. it is much better to keep our ailing and (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister elderly Nunavummiut closer to home, of Health, Ms. Ell. family, and community instead of sending them away to an unfamiliar and Hon. Monica Ell: Thank you, Mr. lonely environment. Speaker. (interpretation) The Department of Health has been Can the minister provide an update on brainstorming with the housing how many individuals are currently corporation, for example, units for elders receiving care in Nunavut’s continuing that are suitably served so that elders can care facilities and how many stay home longer, which is called Nunavummiut are receiving a similar assisted living. We also work closely level of care outside of the territory? with Family Services. Thank you, Mr. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Oral Questions. Member for of Health, Ms. Ell. (interpretation ends) South Baffin, Mr. Joanasie. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Department of Question 033 – 4(2): Government Health has two things that the member Liaison Office (Joanasie) talked about, continuing care facilities in Igloolik and Gjoa Haven. It’s presently Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank in operation. There are over 10 rooms you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for for long-term care in the facility. There

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 99 the Minister of Executive and We are dealing with the problems at the Intergovernmental Affairs. present time. As soon as this has been resolved, I will respond to the question. In 2007, the Government of Nunavut Thank you. provided equipment and training to each municipality in the territory in order to Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. allow local officials to take passport Your first supplementary, Mr. Joanasie. photographs of residents. Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank As the minister will recall, I asked him you, Mr. Speaker. A number of my questions on March 10 of this year colleagues have also raised concerns regarding concerns that had been raised about access to general identification with me regarding the condition of cards and driver’s licences, which are equipment that is presently located in issued by the Department of Economic our communities, including the Development and Transportation. Can communities of South Baffin that I the minister indicate what specific represent in the Legislative Assembly. actions his department’s Government Liaison Office is taking to work with the Can the minister update the House on Department of EDT to improve these what actions his department’s services? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Government Liaison Office has taken in response to the concerns that I raised Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. earlier this year? Thank you. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Economic Development and Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Transportation, Mr. Kuksuk. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Premier of Nunavut, Mr. Taptuna. Hon. George Kuksuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said Hon. Peter Taptuna: Thank you, Mr. earlier, the people who take photographs Speaker. I would like to defer that for passports and driver’s licences are question to the minister responsible for delayed at the present time. There are the issuing of driver’s licences and ID several things that have been delayed cards. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. and because they want to have new things that we would like to begin, we Speaker: The Hon. Minister, Mr. are training the people. Kuksuk. The GLOs at the present time and my Hon. George Kuksuk (interpretation): department are looking at how to Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I understood improve services to take photographs for his question, it was asked by some of the identification cards, for instance, the Members of this House. I can say again same as having a health care card. I that issuing of driver’s licences or know that this improvement will be general identification cards for the made shortly to the services that we people in Nunavut is the responsibility provide. I will be able to provide an we have in my department. There has update as soon as those things are been a complaint that these are too slow. resolved. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. I have been asking the minister various Your final supplementary, Mr. Joanasie. questions and I will not stop asking questions in relation to a couple until I Mr. Joanasie (interpretation): Thank get an answer I can understand. Last you, Mr. Speaker. It would be very March, when I was here, I had provided helpful to both the government and a letter to the Minister of Health and I communities if we had a comprehensive indicated to them how they can be and current inventory of photography assisted in two communities. The couple equipment in each community. Will the has never received an answer as to what minister commit to having his kinds of services they could obtain. department’s Government Liaison Office work with the departments of I would like to know whether or not you EDT and CGS to undertake this work have done any follow-up because of the over the coming summer? Thank you, fact that the couple has never received Mr. Speaker. their answer in relation to people who require assistance with living. Thank Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Economic Development and Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Transportation, Mr. Kuksuk. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Health, Ms. Ell. Hon. George Kuksuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank earlier, this is being done at the present you, Mr. Speaker. This question, I think, time. The hamlets are helping our is directed to Family Services. Thank department. This has to be resolved you. because there are many problems and I agree with the member, but at the Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. present time, I’m not really sure exactly (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister when this will be resolved. I expect that of Family Services, Ms. Ugyuk. we will be working on this rigorously. Thank you. Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank the Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Member for Quttiktuq for that question. Oral Questions. Member for Quttiktuq, I had provided a written reply. I imagine Mr. Shooyook. he has not received it yet. We should not be talking about one issue endlessly, but Question 034 – 4(2): Follow-up on I will undertake to look to see what Constituents’ Correspondence happened to that letter. Thank you, Mr. (Shooyook) Speaker. Mr. Shooyook (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Minister of Health and it’s in relation to Oral Questions. Member for a question about health. (interpretation ends) Hudson Bay, Mr. Rumbolt.

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Question 035 – 4(2): Status of Public Speaker: The Hon. Minister responsible Housing Construction in for the Nunavut Housing Corporation, Sanikiluaq (Rumbolt) Mr. Kuksuk.

Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. George Kuksuk: Thank you, Mr. I would like to direct my questions to the Speaker. The tenders for the construction minister of the housing corporation. for the Sanikiluaq housing project have just closed on May 16, I believe. Things As the minister is aware, the Nunavut are rolling along fairly smoothly. Thank Housing Corporation plans to build a you, Mr. Speaker. new five-plex unit in Sanikiluaq as part of the corporation’s 2014-15 public Speaker (interpretation): Your first housing construction season. supplementary, Mr. Rumbolt.

Can the minister confirm if the Nunavut Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Housing Corporation has finalized the Concerns have been brought to my tender process for this construction of attention that the length of time that the the new five-plex and awarded the Nunavut Housing Corporation allowed contracts for the new public housing for this tender was very short, which units? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. impacted the ability of local companies in Sanikiluaq to bid on the project. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Can the minister indicate how the responsible for the Nunavut Housing Nunavut Housing Corporation works Corporation, Mr. Kuksuk. with local companies in Nunavut to ensure that they have adequate time to Hon. George Kuksuk: Thank you, Mr. submit bids on construction tenders? Speaker. Yes, I would love to inform the Thank you, Mr. Speaker. member from Sanikiluaq in regard to the question. Thank you. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Speaker (interpretation): Your first responsible for the Nunavut Housing supplementary, Mr. Rumbolt. Corporation, Mr. Kuksuk.

Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. George Kuksuk: Thank you, Mr. I don’t think this is my first Speaker. The process that the housing supplementary because he didn’t answer corporation uses when tendering my first question. construction projects in Nunavut is pretty much standard across Nunavut. I >>Laughter believe it was handled the same as it would be in other communities in the Mr. Speaker, I asked the minister if he community of Sanikiluaq. could provide an update on the tendering process for the construction of the five- Now, all I have at the moment that I can plex in Sanikiluaq. Thank you, Mr. answer to the question is I have the Speaker. closing date, which was May 16. I would

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 102 have to look up when and how long the Question 036 – 4(2): Community tenders were open and, if the member Justice Committees (Angnakak) wishes, I can get back to him at a later date. Thank you. Ms. Angnakak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) Speaker (interpretation): Your final My questions are for the minister supplementary, Mr. Rumbolt. celebrating a birthday today, the Minister of Justice. Happy birthday. This Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. is my birthday present to you. Another concern that has been raised with me relates to the housing >>Laughter corporation’s design for new units in Sanikiluaq. As the minister is aware, our Mr. Speaker, as I stated during Friday’s location results in Sanikiluaq having a sitting, I attended a community meeting warmer climate and less permafrost than for the development of Nunavut’s Crime other Nunavut communities. Prevention Strategy earlier this month in Consequently, there have been problems Iqaluit. The minister will recall that I with the use of steel piles in warned him that I would have questions construction, including significant for him on this subject. shifting of buildings, with much added cost in repairs. Can the minister indicate Mr. Speaker, community justice if the Nunavut Housing Corporation has committees provide intervention taken these concerns into account in the alternatives for criminal offenders who design of Sanikiluaq’s new five-plex? may be entering or re-entering criminal Thank you, Mr. Speaker. prosecution. In some cases, intervention in the form of counselling, cultural Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. activities, or mediation have prevented (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister the prosecution of offenders and, responsible for the Nunavut Housing arguably, the individual’s future Corporation, Mr. Kuksuk. involvement in criminal activity.

Mr. George Kuksuk (interpretation): Mr. Speaker, it is recognized that Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When these engaging communities in the houses are delivered to the community, development of a crime prevention various issues are raised as to the strategy will require collaboration with appropriateness. There were discussions community justice committees and their about the pros and cons of using piles outreach workers, coordinators, and versus gravel or what kind of designs specialists. needed to be made. There are issues that relate to appropriate ventilation in Can the minister indicate what buildings, for example. All of these communities, if any, currently do not things were discussed. Thank you. have a fully operational community justice committee? Thank you, Mr. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker. Oral Questions. Member for Iqaluit- Niaqunnguu, Ms. Angnakak.

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Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Hon. Paul Okalik (interpretation): (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We will be of Justice, Mr. Okalik. discussing how we can implement the recommendations, especially in relation Hon. Paul Okalik (interpretation): to such issues as counselling, and Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Most of the hopefully, people will begin to lead communities have community justice better lives. When these kinds of things committees. There used to be one in begin to be implemented, there is less Iqaluit, but it’s not functioning anymore crime at the end of it. Those are the due to various impediments. There are kinds of things that we will be striving efforts being made to have the justice for. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. committee revived in Iqaluit and our staff has been initiating and having Speaker (interpretation): Your final discussions about how committees like supplementary, Ms. Angnakak. this could be revived in Iqaluit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The government’s annual Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. reports on its Community Justice Your first supplementary, Ms. program describe the number of cases Angnakak. received, community activities, and measures taken for crime prevention by Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. each committee. Speaker. Community justice committees are comprised of community volunteers, The annual report for the 2010-11 fiscal whose meetings and activities are year was tabled in the Legislative coordinated by a paid community justice Assembly on May 16, a year ago, 2013. committee coordinator or outreach worker. Will the minister commit to tabling the 2011-12 and 2012-13 annual reports A recent report published by the federal before the end of the current spring Department of Justice indicates that sitting? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. there has been a lack of funding for the training and salaries of community Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. justice committee coordinators. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Justice, Mr. Okalik. Can the minister indicate what specific actions his department is taking to Hon. Paul Okalik (interpretation): enhance the resources and capacity of Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m sorry I was community justice committees? Thank not a minister then or a member in those you, Mr. Speaker. years. However, I will undertake to see what the conditions of those reports are Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. at. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Justice, Mr. Okalik. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Oral Questions. Member for Aivilik, Mr. Mapsalak.

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Question 037 – 4(2): Temporary That is all we are doing to try to address Social Workers (Mapsalak) this issue in relation to family services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. my question to the Minister of Family Your first supplementary, Mr. Mapsalak. Services. Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank Mr. Speaker, social workers visit various you, Mr. Speaker. They do important communities. They come to the work; they are missed when they do not communities that I represent and they do visit and when they do not come to not spend a very long time there. Once provide services. It is unfortunate that you see them and then you don’t. I people who work in this field only stay wonder if the minister can answer as to for a few months. We do know why they what they do once you see them, then do not spend a long time. Maybe the you don’t. I wonder if the minister can workload is too much or they aren’t answer why there cannot be full-time getting appropriate services. Perhaps the social workers that could provide minister can provide me with an answer. services to communities. Is it because Thank you, Mr. Speaker. the communities don’t have that many people who require their services? Speaker (interpretation): Thank you Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Family Services, Ms. Ugyuk. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): of Family Services, Ms. Ugyuk. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank my colleague for that question. Yes, we Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): know that many social workers do not Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank my stay here. They find their workload too fellow MLA for that question in relation difficult. We are trying to keep that in to communities. We don’t have too mind. They get overworked. That’s many employees in this field of social usually one of the reasons they do not services, but they are trying to address stay. It’s because they are not in their this issue. own land and they usually go back to their own land. We are working with Arctic College so that there could be more people working We need to have more Inuit social in Family Services that could gain workers. For that effort, we have been appropriate qualifications to be able to training social workers in Cambridge work in this field. It is preferable to have Bay to try and strengthen our workforce. beneficiaries who have lived in the north We are trying to correct it properly. because, as we all know, people who Thank you, Mr. Speaker. move in from the south do not stay very long and the turnover is high. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Your final supplementary, Mr. Mapsalak.

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Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. you, Mr. Speaker. Has the minister (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister reviewed or checked into… ? As you of Family Services, Ms. Ugyuk. just stated, social workers have very difficult jobs. Have you looked into any Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): ways to support social workers so that Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank the they end up spending longer times in the Member for Tununiq for asking about communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. who we should be talking to in the Department of Family Services Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. concerning income support. I have new (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister information. I was meeting with my staff of Family Services, Ms. Ugyuk. yesterday afternoon.

Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): The department decides as to how much Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my income support people get, but we really colleague for asking that question in his have no say in how much money we get efforts to support the matter to improve from the federal government and we things. The Minister of Finance, Keith have to look for other ways to try and Peterson, and I are working together help. We meet with the Yukon and with the Minister of Human Resources NWT. We follow what the Yukon and to see how we can improve or increase NWT have been doing and tried to get the number of social workers in the more help for the Income Support government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Program. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Oral Questions. Member for Tununiq, Your first supplementary, Mr. Enook. Mr. Enook. Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, Question 038 – 4(2): Income Mr. Speaker. If I understand this Assistance Rates (Enook) correctly, the Department of Family Services decides how much they pay for Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, income support and without any outside Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my direction. It’s terribly expensive to live question to the Minister of Family in the Arctic. The way I see it, you will Services. be able to increase the monthly income support for Nunavut recipients. Thank Mr. Speaker, on pages 16 and 24 of the you, Mr. Speaker. Hansard, I know it hasn’t been published yet, but I would like to base Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. my question on that to get clarification (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister on what has been written. The minister of Family Services, Ms. Ugyuk. said previously that she has to speak with the other departments in regard to Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): food security. Which departments do Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank the you have to speak with? That is my Member for Tununiq for that question. question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We know that income support in

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Nunavut is affected by these things. Inuit Once we know the figures, we will be in Nunavut get helped a great deal able to work with that information. We through electrical support, utility will be expecting to hear more about it. support, and other forms of assistance, Thank you, Mr. Speaker. for example, for rent or housing payments. We get support from the Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. government and then we have to pay the Oral Questions. Member for Arviat balance, not the full cost of the house. South, Mr. Savikataaq.

We rely on the Department of Finance to Question 039 – 4(2): Bilingual get the most income support that we can Education Models (Savikataaq) give. If we’re going to increase income support, then all the MLAs would have Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. to agree to that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Education. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Your final supplementary, Mr. Enook. Mr. Speaker, I am well aware that a review of Nunavut’s Education Act and Mr. Enook: Mr. Speaker, its relevant regulations will be (interpretation) the minister said undertaken by this Legislative Assembly yesterday in her reply that there will be a in the near future. However, reviewing review of income support. Let me ask, and possibly bringing forward once you are doing your review, what amendments to legislation can be a long exactly are you reviewing? Thank you, and time-consuming process. Mr. Speaker. Regulations, on the other hand, can be changed relatively quickly. I believe that Speaker: The Hon. Minister of Family the issue at hand is sufficiently important Services, Ms. Ugyuk. to warrant immediate action.

Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): Mr. Speaker, the majority of the Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the bilingual education models established Member for Tununiq for asking as to under the Education Act’s Language of what we will be reviewing. We will be Instruction Regulations require that 85 to reviewing the high cost of food. We 90 percent of instruction from don’t have all the information on the kindergarten to grade 3 is delivered in cost of food, so we need to get statistics the Inuit language. Education officials from many communities. have noted that subjects such as mathematics cannot be taught in the There are price differences in the stores Inuit language due to the lack of for different communities. There are terminology. many uncontrollable costs that we have to incur. Food is brought in by sealift Can the minister clearly explain how our and air cargo. We have no control over children in kindergarten through to grade those prices. In many communities, the 3 receive adequate math education if it price of food is very different from cannot be taught in the required others. We will be looking at that.

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Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Speaker. I believe that the current of Education, Mr. Quassa. language requirements under the Language of Instruction Regulations Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): severely restrict our ability to provide a Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank my solid educational foundation in one of colleague for asking that clear question. the cornerstone subjects of modern We all know that in Nunavut, we have to education. Math, along with reading and use four languages in all of our schools. writing, is critical to any student’s English, Inuktitut, French, and success. Can the minister provide an Inuinnaqtun are the languages. update on how his department assesses and monitors the delivery of math What you’re saying is true. The education from kindergarten through to Language of Instruction Regulations that grade 12? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. were agreed upon in 2012 were supposed to be reviewed after every five Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. years. The Language of Instruction (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Regulations that are used today… . It’s of Education, Mr. Quassa. true what you’re saying. It’s set up that way. The education committees are the Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): ones that advise as to what language of Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Math instruction should be used in a particular instruction, like you’re saying, is not school. It’s decided by the district about language; it’s just numbers. Up to education authorities. now, we have been discussing the matter with the department that math refers to It’s a three-level system. The first one is one thing. It’s not English; it’s just called Qulliq. The DEA can decide numbers. which one they can follow. They can say that our students can speak Inuktitut very The Education Act states that Inuktitut well and if that’s the case, English and English should be the language of instruction is made stronger because instruction. It’s an Act and we cannot they already have good Inuktitut in that break it, so we’re going to be looking to school. The other one is called see how we can apply the Education Act immersion. If a student can speak after it’s reviewed this week. English better than Inuktitut, then he would learn Inuktitut more. The third I have directed our staff that math should method or option, if that person is be a subject on its own and not divide bilingual already in Inuktitut and the issue. It’s just numbers and not a English, would be a dual instruction language thing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. system. That’s what we follow from kindergarten to grade 12. Thank you, Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Your final supplementary, Mr. Savikataaq.

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Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. and Government Services on the local Speaker. I’m glad that the minister fire here. acknowledged that math is numbers and not a language. When we were here as a Mr. Speaker, the fire at Iqaluit’s landfill Committee of the Whole, his deputy site continues to burn and according to minister stated that they cannot teach Nunatsiaq News, it is no end in sight for math because of terminology from Iqaluit dump. The city has indicated that kindergarten to grade 3. I’m glad that the it is “working together with minister states that they will be looking representatives from both the territorial at it. and federal governments to ensure that the safety of our citizens is our priority.” Will the minister commit to amending Also, they state that there are discussions the current Language of Instruction being held on a regular basis to ensure it Regulations to ensure that the bilingual is being dealt with. education models permit adequate English language instruction to allow for Mr. Speaker, can the minister indicate the proper teaching of mathematics from how the Government of Nunavut is kindergarten to grade 3? Thank you, Mr. coordinating its support to the city in Speaker. response to this situation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. of Education, Mr. Quassa. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Community and Government Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): Services, Mr. Sammurtok. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like I stated, we will be reviewing the Education Act. Hon. Tom Sammurtok: Thank you, Mr. Hopefully, this week, we will be looking Speaker. Yes, my department is working at the Education Act because we look at very closely with the city officials, the kindergarten to grade 3 classes. We particularly the fire department. We are are also dealing with grade 12. When we monitoring the situation along with the review the Education Act, we will be Department of Environment and the looking at it that way. Thank you, Mr. Department of Health to ensure that the Speaker. dump fire doesn’t present a health hazard to the community of Iqaluit. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Oral Questions. Member for Iqaluit- Tasiluk, Mr. Hickes. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Your first supplementary, Mr. Hickes. Question 040 – 4(2): Iqaluit Landfill Fire (Hickes) Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the minister for that response. Mr. Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I Speaker, this is not the first fire to have think we have been quite lucky with the broken out at the landfill here in Iqaluit wind direction, so I’m going to ask some in recent years. Can the minister indicate questions to the Minister of Community if the GN will be sitting down with the

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 109 municipality to review the lessons Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. learned from this experience? Thank Oral Questions. Member for Baker Lake, you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Mikkungwak.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Question 041 – 4(2): Access to Justice (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Services (Mikkungwak) of Community and Government Services, Mr. Sammurtok. Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to extend my Hon. Tom Sammurtok: Thank you, Mr. birthday greetings and my questions will Speaker. Yes, we will be consulting with be to the Minister of Justice. the city and we will ensure that we come up with the best solution for the The business plan of the Department of situation. Thank you. Justice indicates that one of its ongoing priorities is to “Continue to expand the Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Justice of the Peace program in Your final supplementary, Mr. Hickes. Nunavut.” However, concerns have been raised with me that the community of Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Baker Lake currently has only one The City of Iqaluit has been working to Justice of the Peace. develop a long-term, sustainable solution to solid waste management. However, as Can the minister indicate what steps his the minister is aware, this issue is department is taking to recruit and train complex and the city’s resources are not new Justices of the Peace in Baker unlimited. Can the minister indicate how Lake? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. his department is working with the city in the development of solutions to solid Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. waste management in our capital city? (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Thank you, Mr. Speaker. of Justice, Mr. Okalik.

Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Hon. Paul Okalik (interpretation): (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That’s a good of Community and Government question. Some communities have a Services, Mr. Sammurtok. shortage of Justices of the Peace, but I am happy to say that they have Justices Hon. Tom Sammurtok: Thank you, Mr. of the Peace in most communities. We Speaker. Yes, dump fires are very will be providing training for more difficult to extinguish. In southern Justices of the Peace and we usually Canada, they sometimes need to use work with the hamlet in each Nunavut specialized equipment to deal with community to work with them with situations like this. This is something respect to getting more Justices of the that we will be looking at as a Peace. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. department to see what we can do to help the city deal with this issue. Thank Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. you. Your first supplementary, Mr. Mikkungwak.

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Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Speaker. I thank the minister for his (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister response. The Justices of the Peace Act of Justice, Mr. Okalik. was amended by the previous Legislative Assembly to provide for the Hon. Paul Okalik (interpretation): establishment of a new Justices of the Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I recently met Peace Appointment and Remuneration with the chair of the Legal Services Committee. The role of this body is to Board. They are reviewing their review the applications of candidates for operations. I will be speaking with them appointment as justices of the peace. again after they complete this work. Can the minister indicate when these Thank you, Mr. Speaker. provisions of the Act will come into force? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Oral Questions. Member for Tununiq, Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Enook. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Justice, Mr. Okalik. Question 042 – 4(2): Food Price Survey (Enook) Hon. Paul Okalik (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is part of Mr. Enook: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. the Justices of the Peace training in each (interpretation) My question is for the community. The committee meets every Minister of Family Services with respect so often to appoint Justices of the Peace. to social assistance. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I understand the minister’s response Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. correctly, they will be reviewing the cost Your final supplementary, Mr. of food in the communities. We all know Mikkungwak. that food is very expensive in the communities. If I can help the minister, I Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. could say that… . You can look at the Speaker. I thank the minister once again Facebook page, “Feeding My Family.” It for his response. The Department of also states how much food costs in the Justice also provides funding for the communities of Nunavut. They will be legal aid system in Nunavut, including reviewing that. the operations of the Keewatin Legal Services Centre. My question, Mr. Speaker, is: because there’s a high cost of living in Nunavut, Concerns have also been brought to my what are you going to do after you attention about the need for more legal complete a review of food prices in aid workers in the Kivalliq. Can the Nunavut? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. minister indicate what steps are being taken to address this need? Thank you, Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Family Services, Ms. Ugyuk.

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Hon. Jeannie Ugyuk (interpretation): and checked properly by mechanics. Are Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to the bus routes appropriate? Those are the respond to the member’s question things we look at in assessing those properly. I will take his question as funding requests for bus services. I notice. Thank you. cannot state at this moment what the appropriate answer will be. Thank you, Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Oral Questions. Member for Baker Lake, Mr. Mikkungwak. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Your first supplementary, Mr. Question 043 – 4(2): School Bus Mikkungwak. Service at Baker Lake (Mikkungwak) Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. My thank the minister for his answer. question is directed to the Minister of However, I can state in this manner in Education. relation to what he said, whether the buses would be kept properly and As we are all aware, education is very maintained, I can say that they can be important. It’s one of the first priorities maintained properly in Baker Lake. in Sivumut Abluqta. In Baker Lake, there’s one bus service for all of the The issue is money. Obviously they are schools. Can the minister try to find out requesting more money because of the if there can be two buses provided for number of students that require bus the community of Baker Lake? Thank service. They will be finishing in the you, Mr. Chairman. spring and summer. However, we are already looking forward to the fall when Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. weather will become an issue again and (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister that is why I directed my question to the of Education, Mr. Quassa. minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is an (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister excellent question. I will answer it of Education, Mr. Quassa. appropriately. We received the request for an additional bus from the education Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): committee at my office on May 20. My Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are department’s staff are reviewing the various issues that need to be looked at, request and we have not yet drafted an such as the distance, for those who are appropriate answer as to what action the age of 5 and are .5 kilometre away, could be taken. there are a number of regulations with respect to busing. This includes how However, I can add that we received many students in the 7 to 11 age group requests for school bus services. We are have housing that is over one kilometre looking at whether the bus will have a away or whether they live 1.5 kilometres lot of room and if it will be maintained

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 112 away from the school. There are all these questions from the MLAs are all very things that need to be look at. excellent. By the end of this week, the ministers will be receiving a lot of This year, we have already indicated questions. We should be able to provide that. As per our Minister of Finance, more appropriate answers once our who has already indicated what the cabinet has begun to gel. Thank you, Mr. budget for the provisional services will Speaker. be. However, when there are urgent matters, they could also be revisited. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) Question period is Having said that, I am not sure exactly over. Item 8. Written Questions. Item 9. how we will respond to that question as Returns to Written Questions. Item 10. we just received the letter and haven’t Replies to Opening Address. Item 11. had the time to put together a complete Replies to Budget Address. Item 12. response. We know that request will Petitions. Item 13. Responses to require an increase in funding, so we Petitions. Item 14. Reports of Standing will scrutinize that very closely. Thank and Special Committees on Bills and you, Mr. Speaker. Other Matters. Item 15. Tabling of Documents. I have one. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Your final supplementary, Mr. Item 15: Tabling of Documents Mikkungwak. Tabled Document 011 – 4(2): Office of Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): the Legislative Assembly Business Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I Plan 2014-2017 (Speaker) thank the minister for that answer. We now know some of the things that we did I am pleased to table the Business Plan not know before. for the Office of the Legislative Assembly of Nunavut for the years My final question is: will the minister be 2014-17. (interpretation) Thank you. able to provide clarification before the next school year starts? Perhaps you can (interpretation ends) Item 16. Notices of provide an answer before the start of the Motions. Item 17. Notices of Motions fall semester due to the number of for First Reading of Bills. Item 18. students that need to utilize the bus Motions. Member for Baker Lake, Mr. services when the cold weather comes Mikkungwak. again. Would there be two school buses operating in the community of Baker Item 18: Motions Lake? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Motion 003 – 4(2): Extended Sitting Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Hours and Days (Mikkungwak) (interpretation ends) The Hon. Minister of Education, Mr. Quassa. Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the Hon. Hon. Paul Quassa (interpretation): Member for Netsilik, that the Speaker be Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All these authorized to set such sitting days and

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 113 hours as the Speaker deems fit to assist Pangnirtung, that Bill 3, Supplementary with the business before the House Appropriation (Capital) Act, No. 1, during the spring sitting of the 2014-2015, be read for the first time. Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The motion is in Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. order. All those in favour. (interpretation ends) The motion is in (interpretation) Thank you. order. To the motion. All those in (interpretation ends) Opposed. The favour. (interpretation) Thank you. motion is carried. (interpretation ends) Opposed. The motion is carried. Item 20. Second Reading of Bills. The Hon. Minister of Finance, Mr. Peterson. Item 19. First Reading of Bills. Minister of Finance, Mr. Peterson. Item 20: Second Reading of Bills

Item 17: First Reading of Bills Bill 02 – Appropriation (Operations & Maintenance) Act, 2014-2015 – Bill 02 – Appropriation (Operations & Second Reading Maintenance) Act, 2014-2015 – First Reading Hon. Keith Peterson: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the Hon. Hon. Keith Peterson: Mr. Speaker, I Member for Pangnirtung, that Bill 2, move, seconded by the Hon. Member for Appropriation (Operations and Pangnirtung, that Bill 2, Appropriation Maintenance) Act, 2014-2015, be read (Operations and Maintenance) Act, for the second time. 2014-2015, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this bill authorizes the Government of Nunavut to make Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. operations and maintenance (interpretation ends) The motion is in expenditures for the fiscal year ending order. All those in favour. Opposed. March 31, 2015. Thank you, Mr. (interpretation) Thank you. Speaker. (interpretation ends) The motion is carried. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The motion is in First Reading of Bills. Minister of order. To the principle of the bill. Finance, Mr. Peterson. Question has been called. All those in favour. (interpretation) Thank you. Bill 03 – Supplementary (interpretation ends) Opposed. The Appropriation (Capital) Act, No. motion is carried and Bill 2 is referred to 1, 2014-2015 – First Reading the Committee of the Whole.

Hon. Keith Peterson: Mr. Speaker, I Item 20. Second Reading of Bills. The move, seconded by the Hon. Member for Hon. Minister of Finance, Mr. Peterson.

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Bill 03 – Supplementary In Committee of the Whole, we have the Appropriation (Capital) Act, No. following items to deal with: Bills 2 and 1, 2014-2015 – Second Reading 3. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Rumbolt. Hon. Keith Peterson: Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Hon. Member for Mr. Rumbolt: Thank you, Mr. Pangnirtung, that Bill 3, Supplementary Chairman. We wish to commence with Appropriation (Capital) Act, No. 1, the review of Bill 2 and the main 2014-2015, be read for the second time. estimates starting with the Department of Health. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Speaker, this bill makes supplementary appropriations to defray Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Rumbolt. the capital expenditures of the Are we in agreement that we first deal Government of Nunavut for the fiscal with the main estimates for the year ending March 31, 2015. Thank you, Department of Health? Mr. Speaker. Some Members: Agreed. Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. (interpretation ends) The motion is in Bill 02 – Appropriation (Operations & order. Question has been called. All Maintenance) Act, 2014-2015 – those in favour. Opposed. The motion is Health – Consideration in carried and Bill 3 is referred to the Committee Committee of the Whole. Chairman: Thank you. I would like to Item 21. [Consideration in] Committee ask Minister Ell, do you have officials of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters. you would like to appear before the Bill 2 and Bill 3 with Mr. Akoak in the committee? Chair. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Yes, I Before we proceed to the Committee of do, Mr. Chairman. I would like two of the Whole, we will take a 20-minute my officials to join me here, please. Do I break. have to state their names now? Thank you. (interpretation) Sergeant-at-Arms. Chairman: Thank you, Minister Ell. >>House recessed at 15:44 and Does the committee agree to let the Committee resumed at 16:17 minister and her officials go to the witness table? Item 21: Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Some Members: Agreed. Matters Chairman: Sergeant-at-Arms, please Chairman (Mr. Akoak): Thank you. I escort the witnesses in. would like to call the committee meeting to order. Welcome to the people For the record, Minister Ell, please watching TV and listening to the radio. introduce your officials.

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Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank (interpretation ends) Mr. Chairman, as you, Mr. Chairman. On my right is the members know, Health began delivery Interim Deputy Minister, Rosemary of additional diagnostic treatment Keenainak, and on my left is Johan services in Iqaluit with the installation of Glaudemans, Interim Finance Controller. the CT scanner. Health is seeking one- Thank you. time funding of $891,000 to operate this program. It is expected that funding for Chairman: Thank you, Minister Ell. future years will be provided through Please proceed with your opening savings in medical travel to Ottawa. comments, Minister Ell. The only other changes to the Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank department’s budget were a transfer of you, Mr. Chairman. Good day, my $68,000 to Family Services and an colleagues and the people watching the increase of $25,000 for the recent fuel proceedings. I am pleased to present the price change. Department of Health’s business plan and main estimates for the fiscal year In addition to the funding that is 2014-15. provided to the Department of Health via the Vote 1 funding, the department The Department of Health is seeking a receives additional Vote 4/5 funding for net increase of $18.5 million from the specific activities. The funding 2013-14 main estimates and this agreements are expected to provide the represents an increase of 6.6 percent Department of Health with an additional from last year’s funding. $49.6 million in fiscal year 2014-15. The main items are highlighted below. Mr. Chairman, during the winter sitting on March 19, 2014, the department  The Health Portfolio Wellness brought forward a supplementary Contribution Agreement ($19.3 appropriation request of $26 million to million) is focused on initiatives for: add to the 2013-14 O&M budget and o Healthy Children, Family and most of the $18.5 million increase in Communities - this funding aims 2014-15 is directly related to areas of the to improve the quality of and budget where Health has historically access to culturally sensitive been experiencing budget shortfalls. wellness programming, such as community prenatal nutrition The increase will address shortfalls in programs, otherwise known as the following program areas: CPNP, child development programs, and youth  $6 million in the Medical Travel empowerment projects at the Program; community level ($6.1 million);  $9 million in the Out-of-Territory o Chronic Disease and Injury Hospital Program; Prevention - funding helps to  $2 million in the Pharmacy Program; reduce the high rates of chronic and disease and its complications,  $700,000 in the Physician Services prevents injuries, and improve Program.

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healthy eating patterns ($3.2 In alignment with the government’s million); mandate laid out in Sivumut Abluqta, the o Mental Health and Addiction - department will work towards healthy this funding increases the families through strong and resilient awareness and understanding of communities by focusing resources on: mental health issues and addictions, and focuses on  supporting activities outlined in the providing culturally appropriate Nunavut Food Security Strategy and wellness information ($1.7 Action Plan ($715,000); million);  realizing growth in mental health and o Home and Community Care addictions service capacity (HCC) enables people with (internally funded); and performing a disabilities and chronic or acute needs assessment for enhancing illnesses to receive care at home long-term care services ($30,000). in their community in order to live as independently as possible The department will also continue to ($6.4 million); work on: o Program Management - to support compensation, travel,  The Nunavut Interoperable materials, and supplies for Electronic Health Records Program program leads ($1.1 million); ($3.4 million); o Health Services Integration Fund  Long-term Care ($5.3 million); - to further develop the capacity  Mental Health and Addiction ($17.3 of community health and million); and wellness committees across  Tobacco Reduction, including Nunavut ($822,000); implementation of the Tobacco  The First Nations and Inuit Health Reduction Framework for Action Insurance Benefits (NIHB) ($27.8 ($2.5 million). million) - The Government of Nunavut provides this service on Mr. Chairman, the department has yet behalf of Health Canada for non- again set out an ambitious business plan insured health benefits to eligible in the upcoming year, one that will Inuit and First Nations of Canada; depend upon adequate fiscal and human and resources. I am certain that members  Other programs that Health obtained will have questions and I would be funding also include: pleased to take questions. Thank you, o Electronic Health Information Mr. Chairman. That concludes my System ($824,000); opening comments. o Nunavut Family Physician Residents Project ($985,000); Chairman: Thank you, Minister Ell. o Canadian Chronic Disease Does the Chair of the Standing Surveillance System ($199,000); Committee on Social Wellness have and comments? Please proceed, Mr. o Maternal Child Health Joanasie. Surveillance ($152,000).

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Mr. Joanasie: (interpretation) Thank Members fully support the department’s you, Mr. Chairman. Members of the initiatives to ensure quality of care at all Standing Committee on Social Wellness community health centres and to achieve have reviewed the 2014-15 main full-time staffing and continuity of estimates and business plan of the service across all communities. Department of Health. Mr. Chairman, Nunavut’s unique The standing committee notes that the population characteristics and geography 2014-15 operations and maintenance as well as the linguistic and cultural budget for the Department of Health is aspects of health service delivery are almost $299 million which, at 22 significant cost drivers when it comes to percent, is the largest share of the delivering health services to Nunavut government’s total Operations and residents. In recent years, the federal Maintenance budget for 2014-15. government recognized the financial impacts related to delivering health While the proposed 2014-15 budget for services in the North and provided the Department of Health represents an additional funding through such increase of approximately 6.6 percent programs as the Territorial Health over the main estimates for 2013-14, System Sustainability Initiative. members are aware that costs for service delivery in the health care field are The standing committee strongly driven by various demands which can be supports the minister’s efforts to work unpredictable and expensive to address with her territorial counterparts to again and that the department has brought access additional federal funding to forward supplementary appropriations address specific health care and medical on a consistent basis over the years. service needs across the northern territories. The committee looks forward to updates on the department’s efforts to reduce The committee further encourages the costs, especially in the area of travel, department to work collaboratively with with a greater focus on delivering representatives from the community- services within Nunavut. level and well as from the federal level to address specific health issue needs With the department’s new CT scanner with funding, resources, and other finally becoming operational at the supports. Qikiqtani General Hospital, members anticipate that there will be long-term The standing committee recognizes the cost savings as fewer medical clients department’s ongoing efforts to improve will have to travel out of the territory for the administration of health care services diagnostic tests. with initiatives such as the Patient Relations Office, the Interoperable Members encourage the department to Electronic Health Records System, and maintain its efforts in recruiting and amending policies relating to medical training health workers both at the travel. community level and at the regional health centres.

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Members encourage the minister to Funding and support for breakfast closely monitor developments in these programs in schools, parenting, life areas especially as they relate to skills and nutrition programs for pre- concerns regarding rights, natal mothers and families, and responsibilities and privacy. supporting healthy food choices by both retailers and consumers can go a long Mr. Chairman, the standing committee way towards promoting good health and fully supports the department’s well-being across the territory. initiatives in the areas of long term care and support for elders and individuals Mr. Chairman, that concludes my with chronic illnesses. opening remarks. I anticipate that Members further encourage the individual members will also have department to address issues facing questions and comments as we proceed. Nunavummiut with disabilities, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. including improved wheelchair accessibility for medical travel clients Chairman: Before we proceed, I would and providing additional support for like to remind members of the following: parents with disabled children including according to rule 77(1), you have 10 those suffering from illnesses such as minutes to speak, and according to rule autism. 77(2), subject to the discretion of the Chair, a member may speak more than Members note that a review of the once to a matter under discussion but not Extended Health Benefits Program will until every member wishing to speak has be conducted in the upcoming fiscal year spoken. and look forward to updates in this area. I suggest to members that wherever Mr. Chairman, the standing committee possible you ask your detailed questions has noted that mental health and during the page-by-page review of the substance abuse problems are often at departmental estimates. Do members the root of many other social and health have any general comments? Mr. issues. Members support the concept of Hickes. culturally relevant, community-based programs being delivered in Nunavut’s Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. communities and encourage the I just have a couple of questions department’s plans to focus on mental regarding the opening comments from health and addictions during the 2014-15 the minister. On her second page it talks fiscal year. about focusing resources on three different bullet points. With regard to the Mr. Chairman, the issue of food security last bullet point of performing a needs is a growing concern across Nunavut. assessment for enhancing long-term care Members strongly encourage the services, there are $30,000 budgeted for. minister to work with her ministerial Is that a community by community colleagues and community-based groups assessment, or is that regional or to address this concern. territorial? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Hickes. dollars are being anticipated to be spent Minister Ell. outside of the territory? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are looking at Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Nunavut-wide perspective. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Those Chairman: Thank you, Minister Ell. Mr. funds are for the facilities in Nunavut, Hickes. mainly for Gjoa Haven and Igloolik. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have repeatedly brought up the topic of Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Hickes. looking at care and services being provided in the territory. Will this Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. assessment identify needs from a Thank you for that, Minister Ell. With territorial standpoint? Will this include the third bullet, Mental Health and looking at facility needs across the Addictions of $17.3 million, the same territory? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell.

Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) you, Mr. Chairman. This mental health Health is planning for a needs issue will be directed to my deputy assessment to determine how best to minister, if possible. Thank you. meet the long-term care needs of Nunavummiut, having gauged a Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Keenainak. territorial lead for long-term care planning. The assessment will include Ms. Keenainak: Thank you, Mr. care delivery model, such as community Chairman. That’s currently we provide and in-home support model for support within the territory. We do have mental of living and residential programs. The health positions in the regions. We are results of the assessment will help starting to have some psychiatric nurses inform future strategic planning and in some of the communities, which we’ll development. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. have territorially. That also includes Akausisarvik here in the facility. We Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Hickes. also have a facility in Cambridge Bay, which we been using the money to kind Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. of operate. Long-term-wise, it’s not in I thank the minister for that response. this particular time, but we’re also in this Also on the same page right underneath particular plan, but we’re also looking at that it talks about the department will one in Rankin Inlet. Thank you, Mr. also continue work on…It’s got four Chairman. bullet points, but specifically I’d like to ask about the middle two - long-term Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Hickes. care of $5.3 million. How much of those

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Mr. Hickes: Thank you for that Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, response. I just wanted to let you know Mr. Chairman. If my question is not as well that I recently met with the City appropriate, you will advise me. I have a Council of Iqaluit and they had a number question on the opening comments. Be of good things to say about the welcome, hon. minister and your staff. If psychology services improvement in I could be provided with an answer… . I Iqaluit. have a lot of paper here. In the opening comments, it is stated that there will be With regard to Vote 4/5 funding for 13.5 PYs. I’m not specifically asking too specific activities that you mentioned much. towards the bottom of the first page of your opening comments, you talk about My question is; there are two of them, $49.6 million in fiscal 2014-15. Are but they’re not specifically directed to there dollars included in that from the that. It’s directed to mental health previous Territorial Health System workers and to psychiatric nurses. Sustainability Initiative? Thank you, Mr. What’s the difference between these two Chairman. professions? In English, they look different. In Inuktitut, how else can we Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. distinguish between them? If they’re able to be distinguished, how do you Hon. Monica Ell: No. Thank you, Mr. base your decision as to what Chairman. community should have which of which of these different kinds of health Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Hickes. professionals? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. From what I understand, funding for that Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. initiative expired on March 31 of this year. Have there been discussions with Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank your federal counterparts to revisit and you, Mr. Chairman. I thank my fellow have those dollars being put back into MLA for the question. The Inuktitut our health care system? Thank you, Mr. terminology for these, we would need to Chairman. use what we have heard so far, that they deal with minds. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. The psychiatric nurse relates to having a Hon. Monica El: Thank you, Mr. higher, more professional specialized Chairman. For the TC funding the education for those that are required to federal government announced, we are see doctors, but the mental health worker still waiting to hear the details of that is more of a support person to the other, announcement and we’re expecting to real professional “mind-dealer” in the hear the details later this fall. Thank you, Inuktitut sense. However, they do work Mr. Chairman. in support of each other in relation to the severity of what the mental illness of a Chairman: Thank you. Next on my list person would be and what the mental is Mr. Enook. illness of the person would be.

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I would like to be working with the last questions was. Psychiatric nurses terminology people in terms of whether have more education than mental health there does need to be better terminology workers because people in the for those professionals. Thank you, Mr. communities have more knowledge Chairman. . about their community and they can be taught by a psychiatric nurse to have a Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Enook. mental health worker. Mental health workers know what kind of help people Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, need in the communities. Mr. Chairman. My question is what do you use to provide mental health What we want to have in each workers or psychiatrists to be brought to community is a mental health worker the community? How do you figure that and a psychiatric nurse. If there’s more you need those kinds of people? Thank work to do in a community, there can be you, Mr. Chairman. . more than two people. The mental health workers can get more training on what to Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. do from the psychiatric nurse. Thank Minister Ell. you, Mr. Chairman.

Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. you, Mr. Chairman. . At this time, what Mr. Enook. we have in place is in each community to have a psychiatric nurse and their Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, mental health worker assistant to make Mr. Chairman. Do I understand that all sure that all of the communities to have the communities in Nunavut will have a those mental health workers and psychiatric nurse and a mental health psychiatric nurses. Thank you, Mr. worker? Are you trying to get a mental Chairman. . health worker and a psychiatric nurse in all of the communities? Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Mr. Mapsalak. Chairman. .

Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to get some more clarification; are the Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank psychiatric nurse and the mental health you, Mr. Chairman. That’s what we worker two different positions? Are you want to do. This is the long-term goal trying to get all the communities to have that we have as a department. It has to be a mental health nurse and a psychiatric agreed to by the financial management nurse? How do you make sure that you board and the Members of the get those two positions in each Legislative Assembly. community? Thank you. That’s the plan that; we have to have Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. those two positions in each community if possible, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. . Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am unsure what his Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Enook.

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Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, mental health nurse? Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chairman. I am happy to hear the Chairman. plans that you have for the Department of Health. At the present time, do you Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. have a policy in place or do you have a goal in place to provide those two Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank positions to each community and what you, Mr. Chairman. I’ll give this you want for each community? Thank question to my deputy minister again. you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Keenainak.

Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank Ms. Keenainak (interpretation): Thank you. I would like my deputy minister to you, Mr. Chairman. I’m sorry if I didn’t respond to the question. Thank you. understand your question properly. We work with the communities. We work Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Keenainak. with the regional offices, such as the Kivalliq region, and we work with the Ms. Keenainak (interpretation): Thank director of mental health to figure out you, Mr. Chairman. There’s a policy in which communities will get a psychiatric place, but it needs changes. It’s called nurse or a mental health nurse. They’re the Mental Health Act and it’s an old all called health and community Act. We’re going to make amendments wellness committees. We work with to that Act. I think it was in 2002 that them to decide which communities need there was a framework for action those positions. I don’t know if that implementation plan. The Nunavut answered your question or not. Thank Suicide Prevention Strategy was also you. provided by the cabinet. We’re going to be reviewing it this year before March Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Enook. 31 to see what kind of amendments have to be provided. Thank you, Mr. Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, Chairman. Mr. Chairman. Lastly, I’m beginning to understand. Do you work with the Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Enook. community wellness committee in each community and who do they report to, to Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, say that we need a psychiatric nurse or a Mr. Chairman. Maybe my question was mental health nurse? Who do they talk to not clear and that’s why I didn’t get a when they want those positions? Thank proper response. My question was: how you, Mr. Chairman. do you figure that a community needs a psychiatrist or mental health nurse or Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. psychiatric nurse? What is your basis for getting a mental health nurse or what Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank criteria do you have to provide a you. They would tell us that this community with a psychiatric nurse or a community needs those psychiatric or mental health nurses. They would

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 123 encourage us that we need those two have been overspending in that positions. My department will do the department or in that budget line. planning along with the Financial Management Board so that we can Mr. Chairman, I have asked the minister request some funding from the Financial and I have stated in the past, have you Management Board and our request ever investigated to see if there has been would go to the Members of the any mismanagement of the Pharmacy Legislative Assembly for approval. Program, for example, the puffers? Also, Thank you. there are other things that we don’t know about that have been abused. Have you Chairman: Mr. Enook. looked into the Pharmacy Program to make sure it’s being managed properly? Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, Have you looked into it at all? We have Mr. Chairman. With respect to the hon. been very concerned about it. Thank minister’s report, it states that there you, Mr. Chairman. would be $6 million in the Medical Travel Program and $9 million in the Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Out-of-Territory Hospital Program. I would like to ask that question. That $9 Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank million for the Out-of-Territory Hospital you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) Program, Mr. Chairman, I would like Health funds a short-term supply of clarification on the $9 million for the prescribed pharmaceuticals to cover the Out-of-Territory Hospital Program. Is time it takes prescribed pharmaceuticals that the whole amount? Thank you, Mr. to arrive in the mail to clients who do Chairman. not have access to privately run pharmacies in remote communities. This Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. is for those that have pharmacies in the health centres. I would like to ask my Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank deputy to have further clarification. you, Mr. Chairman. It’s for services that Thank you, Mr. Chairman. we cannot provide, but it could be provided for the out-of-territory Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Enook. hospitals. According to where they come from, for instance, if they live in Mr. Enook: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. . Winnipeg, Ottawa, Yellowknife, Before you respond to my question; you Churchill, or Edmonton, that $9 million said something that I didn’t ask about. is for those. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’m trying to ask this instead; we have been very concerned about the pharmacy Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Enook. program.

Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, Pills that are no longer under the Mr. Chairman. This will be my last one, prescription for the patient, they keep I think. It states that you used $2 million sending them to the patient even though in the Pharmacy Program. I know it’s they are not supposed to be taking that not just for pills. It also states that you kind of medication anyway and they just

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All medication have a cost. We ask: Can Chairman: Mr. Mapsalak. you look into this? Have you done nothing on the matter? Thank you, Mr. Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank Chairman. . you, Mr. Chairman. I would like some clarification on what my fellow MLA Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. was trying to ask about.

Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank In regard to the $9 million stated for the you, Mr. Chairman. I would like my out-of-territory hospital program; in that deputy minister to respond to that. program, does that include the medical Thank you. boarding home? Is that included in the $9 million? That’s my first question. Chairman: Ms. Keenainak. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. .

Ms. Keenainak (interpretation): Thank Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. you, Mr. Chairman. (interpretation ends) The department does have a territorial Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank pharmacy position, but it has been you, Mr. Chairman. No, that program is vacant for awhile. That’s one of the not within this $9 million. Thank you. things that we need to recruit for. Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Mapsalak This particular budget item is only for, as the minister indicated, in the health Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank facilities just to tie you over until you get you, Mr. Chairman. . Do I understand your medication. The department does that out-of-territory medical patients are not pay for….like, for regular not paid out of this $9 million program? prescription they are either funded by the Thank you. NIHB program or an employee’s medical insurance company. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell.

Right now, we don’t have the Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank mechanism, but once we recruit the you, Mr. Chairman. No, you were asking territorial coordinator issues like that if the medical boarding homes were paid should be looked at. Thank you, Mr. out of the out-of-territory hospital Chairman. . program, and they are not. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. . Chairman: Thank you. We are skidding a little bit off track. We are on 2014-15 Chairman (interpretation): Thank you. proposed budget. We can stick to that. Mr. Mapsalak. Thank you. Mr. Enook. Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank Mr. Enook: Mr. Chairman you, Mr. Chairman. When we are (interpretation) I thought we would be

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 125 working on the main estimates, I will ask Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank more questions about this. you, Mr. Chairman. Before I respond to that, let me explain. The $891,000 is just I have another question that has to do for the operation of the CT scanner in with your opening comments. Just below Iqaluit. That’s it. The actual CT scanner what I was asking about. You informed that can look inside your whole body, us at one point that you have a new CT the plan is to have it available for all of scanner in Iqaluit. That was welcome Nunavut patients to come to Iqaluit and news that there is one now in Nunavut. be scanned. However, right now if Many patients have to travel south for you’re in the Keewatin, Winnipeg is that kind of diagnosis. They literally closer. For emergency cases, they will become southerners because they have continue to use Winnipeg because it’s to wait for such a long time to get on the closer and they’ll get there sooner. CT scanner list. So Health is seeking That’s the way it is set up for the $891,000 to start the program. Is the CT interim. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. scanner being utilized now for the people of Nunavut? Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Angnakak. Chairman. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Chairman. My first question is related to the $6 million in medical travel increase. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Yes, I know that historically you’ve been the CT scanner was installed in Iqaluit. experiencing budget shortfalls. I am You can, basically, look inside the whole wondering if you feel that the increase of body. It has been utilized since the $6 million in regard to medical travel is beginning of this year at the Qikiqtani enough to meet the needs. Thank you, General Hospital. The $891,000 is to be Mr. Chairman. used for the future operation of this scanner. There are other things called X- Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. rays in the communities, so we can set up X-ray programs in the communities. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank Thank you, Mr. Chairman. you, Mr. Chairman. When we were planning the budget and looking at the Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Mapsalak. historical budget documents, using those, that’s how we planned for our Mr. Mapsalak (interpretation): Thank budget. We don’t know what the future you, minister for the response. It’s great holds. We don’t know what the future that there is one like that here in holds. We don’t know if there were Nunavut. When will it be available for going to be more medical travel patients all the people of Nunavut? I should ask that need to fly out. We don’t know at for if it’s for patients in Nunavut. If this point. We won’t know if it’s going that’s the case, when will be used for to be enough or not enough. Thank you, patients in Nunavut. Mr. Chairman.

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Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Chairman. I’m losing my earpiece here. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): This Thank you for that answer. I hope that is a federally run program. I’ll hand this you can come up with ways of trying to over to my deputy minister to answer. make sure that we’re not going over Thank you. budget. I also look at the $700,000 in the Physician Services Program. Is the Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Keenainak. increase because we need more doctors or is the cost of hiring doctors going up? Ms. Keenainak: Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman. This is federal money that the department has been able to access and Chairman: Minister Ell. they have flagged mental health and addictions as one of their priorities. So Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank that is supplementing the funding that you, Mr. Chairman. I would like my we currently have. This funding has also deputy minister to respond to that. helped fund up to March 31 of the Thank you. Cambridge Bay Mental Health Transition House. We have been able to Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Keenainak. staff that facility in Cambridge Bay where we have been able to repatriate Ms. Keenainak: Thank you, Mr. some patients from southern institutions. Chairman. It’s a combination of both, There has also been a reduction in the the fee that doctors are giving are number of medevacs that we’ve had to growing higher as well as the fact that send out because they have been able to we are increasing specialist physician be seen at the mental health facility in visits rather than the patients going down Cambridge Bay, as an example. Thank south. That’s part of the reason why you, Mr. Chairman. there was an increase in physician service fees. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Ms. Angnakak.

Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Angnakak. Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’m just going down the page Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. here now. On page 2 of your opening Chairman. Thank you for that answer. comments, you talk about tobacco Just going into the second page of your reduction, including the implementation opening comments, mental health and of a reduction framework. What age addictions, the funding increases of $1.7 groups do you target when you’re [million], you talk about “this is for addressing this area? Thank you, Mr. awareness and understanding of mental Chairman. health issues and addictions, and focusing on providing culturally Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. appropriate wellness information.” Can you elaborate on how these funds will be Hon. Monica Ell: Thank you, Mr. used using perhaps some specific Chairman. We’re targeting all age examples? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. groups. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Chairman: Ms. Angnakak. They’re taking in in-patients. And also they have beds there, and are also taking Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. in-patients. I believe it’s doing well. Chairman. How often does your Thank you, Mr. Chairman. department, who work in this area, go into the schools and work in the schools, Chairman: Thank you. Mr. and what kind of initiatives have you Mikkungwak. implemented? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the Chairman: Minister Ell. minister and her assistant who created an excellent opening address. Hon. Monica Ell: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The youth action teams have My first question relates to the opening been established in several communities address where it states that the and are being promoted in all Department of Health’s O&M will be communities. The department’s health increasing to $18.5 million compared to promotion specialist for schools is the previous year. Some of their working with the schools, in the schools, responsibilities have been handed over and the Department of Education to to some other department. Why is there integrate tobacco reduction into the such a big increase in this of $18 curriculum, and other school million? programming. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell.

Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Angnakak. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It’s in my opening Ms. Angnakak: Thank you, Mr. statement so the increase is Chairman. Just one last question on the representative of the $6 million is for opening comments. When you talked transportation of medical services and about the Cambridge Bay facility for the $9 million was for out-of-territory addictions treatment. I know it’s a pilot hospital costs, and the other costs are for project, but how well is that working so pharmaceutical supplies. What we did far? What can you tell us about that? I have to hand over some responsibilities understand it’s early days. Thank you, to the Department of Family Services. Mr. Chairman. We used to be called Health and Social Services so we needed to hand over Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. some of those responsibilities over to Family Services. Some of the funding Hon. Monica Ell: Thank you, Mr. went to Family Services. Chairman. The Cambridge Bay facility has been working quite well in the Chairman: Thank you. Mr. community. Right now they have been Mikkungwak. able to bring some people back from out-of-territory into that facility. So we Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): repatriated some patients to the facility. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 128 minister for the answer. More on the how they want the money they provide same page in the second part of the first to us to be utilized. We work with the page, I have a question in relation to the committees in the communities as to the delivery of fostering of wellness in the development of those specific programs communities, which is $6.1 million for for youth. I don’t have any specifics on Family Services. Is that for all the that, but I can return to it tomorrow with communities? a more specific answer as to the breakdown of the use of culturally Chairman: Minister Ell. appropriate programs. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is related to that Chairman: Thank you. Mr. particular program. One of the Mikkungwak. community wellness groups requested further funding relating to food and other Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): things. This funding is for those kinds of Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I community programs. will elaborate more in relation to the money. I would want to know Chairman: Mr. Mikkungwak. specifically the use of elders. What proportion of it will be going towards Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): the youth in terms of mental wellness? Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. How will the elders be utilized? Thank you for that answer. At the bottom of the page, mental health and I also have a third question. At the very addictions, according to the way it’s top where it’s home and community written, it will be providing culturally care, on the next page, the money has a appropriate wellness information to the budget of $6.4 million to be used in the tune of $1.7 million. Could they communities. What specifically is this elaborate on the breakdown? What the money to be used for? It talks about proportion of that $1.7 million will be disabilities or chronic and acute directed for Inuit specific areas? Thank illnesses. Specifically, what kind of you, Mr. Chairman. illnesses are you talking about? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will hand this over Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank to my deputy minister. Thank you. you, Mr. Chairman. Are you talking about home care services? Thank you, Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Keenainak. Mr. Chairman.

Ms. Keenainak (interpretation): Thank Chairman: Mr. Mikkungwak. you, Mr. Chairman. This $1.7 million is from the federal government. We have a Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): funding agreement as to how it will be Thank you very much. I’m trying to used. The federal government specifies understand if you are talking about

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 129 mental illness or physical ailments. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank Chairman: Minister Ell. you, Mr. Chairman. It’s got to do with Non-Insured Health Benefits. The Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank money that the federal government you, Mr. Chairman. These are more for provides that’s only directed towards the home care when nurses or doctors need Inuit and First Nations. Thank you, Mr. it. Doctors have to specify whether a Chairman. person needs home care services and need to be visited by health professional, Chairman: Thank you. Mr. for example, when an elder is becoming Mikkungwak. more and more incapable of looking after himself or herself or whether there Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): needs to be rehabilitation services, or Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I’m out of whether they are related to homemaking, line, let me know, Mr. Chairman. I will or eating well, and eating healthy food, say it in English. (interpretation ends) To that kind of thing, personal and other eligible Inuit, how do you define eligible care. Those are the kinds of services. It’s Inuit? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. about visitation by nurses and health professionals that needed to look the Chairman: Minister Ell. ongoing wellness of patients, should there ever need to be homecare services. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank This is the funding when there is a you, Mr. Chairman. All Inuit in Canada question as to what they would be paid are eligible, as well as First Nations. for. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Chairman: Mr. Mikkungwak. Mikkungwak. Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the it, but I’m not really sure exactly how I minister for the answer. I have a can ask the question. We’re all Inuit so question in relation to the bottom of the we should all be considered Inuit. It page. The highlighted one. The First states in English. (interpretation ends) Nations and Inuit Health Insurance The electronic health records program, Benefits, which is $27.8 million and the (interpretation)which will cost $3.4 Government of Nunavut provide this million. When will this be enough service on behalf of Health Canada for money? Non-Insured Health Benefits to eligible Inuit and First Nations of Canada. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell.

It states here that eligible Inuit. How do Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you define eligible Inuit? Is it for all you, Mr. Chairman. What we mean Inuit, or is it for identifiable Inuit or about the electronic health records is that Inuit residents of Nunavut? to have the electronic health records

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 130 through the computer to be provided to what would that be identified as? The the doctors and the nurses to have Martha Talerook Centre? Thank you, records available such as laboratory Mr. Chairman. . work for Inuit electronically. We use that in a computer. Thank you. Chairman: Minister Ell.

Chairman: Mr. Mikkungwak. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The long-term care Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): in Baker Lake, Arviat, and Iqaluit is Thank you. Also, my question is at the operated by Family Services. Thank you, bottom of the page to do with $ 5.3 Mr. Chairman. . million long-term care. Is that the for the Nunavummiut? Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Chairman. . Mikkungwak.

Chairman: Minister Ell. Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank minister for her response. The last you, Mr. Chairman. Can the member question that I have is….tobacco rephrase the question? reduction, $2.5 million will be spent.

Chairman: The minister is asking for I know that in Nunavut there is a lot of clarification. smokers and there’s also chewing tobacco. Does that include both the Mr. Mikkungwak (interpretation): smoking tobacco and chewing tobacco? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. (interpretation ends) I will rephrase my question. Long-term care, $5.3 million. Chairman: Minister Ell. Does every community in Nunavut access this particular fund? Thank you, Hon. Monica Ell: Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chairman. . Chairman. . The smoking cessation medication, including nicotine Chairman: Minister Ell. replacement therapy is available to all Inuit residents of Nunavut through Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank NIHB and it includes the two-week you, Mr. Chairman. It’s directed to Gjoa doses of nicotine replacement therapy Haven and Igloolik long-term care that are available to all Nunavut facilities. Thank you. residents at community health centres and hospitals. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Mr. . Mikkungwak. Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. Mikkungwak. Chairman. You can rule me out of order if you want, but in reference to that, Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. there is a program in Baker Lake. So Chairman. Maybe I’ll rephrase my

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 131 question. Tobacco reduction, does that at is with respect to environmental health also focus on chewing tobacco? Thank officers who could go to the you, Mr. Chairman. establishment. We want to work with them. They can go to the establishment Chairman: Minister Ell. to see whether those establishments are not selling to people who are under age. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Yes, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. all tobacco products. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Second round of questions, Mr. Enook. Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Mikkungwak. Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for allowing me to ask Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. more questions. I just want to get some Chairman. Lastly, I’m sorry I said that clarification too, Mr. Chairman, and I was the last question, but with respect to will not have any questions after I get a all tobacco, the minister responded to the response. member’s question, I don’t remember which member it was, but there’s also Mr. Chairman, on page 3 of the legislation with respect to tobacco minister’s opening comments, it reduction. mentions mental health and people who… . What are you talking about in Chairman: Minister Ell. that sentence with respect to mental health and addictions services? Thank Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. you, Mr. Chairman. Can you rephrase your question again? Thank you, Mr. Chairman: Minister Ell. Chairman. Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank Chairman: Mr. Mikkungwak. you, Mr. Chairman. With respect to mental health and addictions services, Mr. Mikkungwak: Thank you, Mr. we want to be able to… . They could be Chairman. When we look at tobacco just some of the things that I can think reduction, there is also legislation across of. We want to be able to provide some the territory, if not in Canada. In order to services in the communities with respect purchase a pack of cigarettes, you have to health staffing positions and to have to be 19 years of age. I’m just asking out more psychiatric nurses in communities of curiosity if that legislation is also and to have local workers. Even though taken into consideration when you’re they’re not properly trained, we want to focusing on tobacco reduction. Thank be able to have a plan in place to provide you, Mr. Chairman. for those workers in the communities in the future. That’s what we want to plan Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. to have.

Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank (interpretation ends) The plan focuses on you, Mr. Chairman. What we’re looking four key areas: quality programming,

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 132 human resource capacity development, University has been recognized as a community capacity, and resource place of rural medicine where they teach leveraging. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. doctors in rural areas.

Chairman: Mr. Enook. We have an agreement with Memorial University and I believe it’s $6 million Mr. Enook (interpretation): Thank you, that Health Canada has created for that Mr. Chairman. I have a question on page for 2014-15. We have medical students 3. There are three questions that I have. coming here to do their practicum. Mr. Chairman, if you don’t mind, I Under the agreement, once they finish would like to ask all of them because I their education, they have to work up just want to get clarification. here for a set time.

You have a list of initiatives and one of We get the funding for maternal child them is the “Nunavut Family Physician health surveillance from the federal Project ($986,000),” another one is government. That looks more into our “Canadian Chronic Disease Surveillance babies when they’re born and as they are System ($199,000),” and “Maternal being brought up and to keep track of Child Health Surveillance.” I just want what sort of illnesses they go through to get some clarification as to exactly when they are between zero and seven what they mean. Thank you, Mr. years of age. That is a computer database Chairman. that tracks that and the funding is for that purpose. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Chairman: Thank you. The last name Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): That on the list, Mr. Savikataaq. funding is coming from the federal government. We just want to get some Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. information disseminated to the Chairman. I might have to get longer members how we can have more money arms or bigger hands, I think, to get for Nunavut family physicians. To make noticed. it a little bit clearer, I would like my deputy minister to respond to that >>Laughter question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. An Hon. Member: Both. Chairman: Ms. Keenainak. Mr. Savikataaq: I would like to ask the Ms. Keenainak (interpretation): Thank minister on the second page there about you, Mr. Chairman. The funding for our CT scanner. It’s asking for one-time (interpretation ends) the Nunavut Family funding of almost $900,000. Just a Physician Residents Project clarification if that includes airfare to run (interpretation) was created by Health the program. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Canada. We work with Memorial University through an agreement. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. Medical students who are learning to become doctors come up here. Memorial

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Hon. Monica Ell: Thank you, Mr. software and bandwidth to transfer that Chairman. No, I don’t believe that information. That’s the cost of $891,000. includes airfare. Thank you, Mr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Savikataaq. Chairman: Mr. Savikataaq. Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for that clear Chairman. It would just be salaries, answer; now we understand where the supplies, and a whole lot of electricity. cost is. Can you please enlighten us on why a machine costs that much to operate? On page 2, I know my colleague has Thank you. asked this too, mental health and addiction line of the last bullet. It says, Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. “This funding increases the awareness and understanding of mental health Hon. Monica Ell: Thank you, Mr. issues and addictions and focuses on Chairman. It’s to operate several things. providing culturally appropriate wellness It’s for the radiologist and the diagnostic information.”, but the minister stated imaging department. The CT scanner earlier that this is also used for, I believe provides diagnoses. It also provides she says, PYs for Cambridge Bay to get referral wait time. It’s to run the the cost down. diagnostic equipment and the PACS program. I’ll have my deputy minister If she can just clarify what it is used for explain. Thank you. because according to this headline, it seems like it is just information being Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Keenainak. given out, not actual treatment. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ms. Keenainak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The $891,000 is specifically Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. requesting for operational support of $125,000. Ottawa hospital cost is 113 Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): Thank because we have to have an agreement you, Mr. Chairman. I could’ve easily with the Ottawa hospital. They are the said we could provide that information ones that do the reading. tomorrow. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

The actual operation of the CT scanner Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Savikataaq. itself here. Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. The PAC System is the Picture Chairman. On page 3, half way down on Archiving Communication System and the bullet list is support activities then the bandwidth issue was the outlined in Nunavut Security Strategy $436,000 for a total of $891,000. and Action plan. Can the minister explain how this money is going to be The CT scanner itself has a piece of spent, is it to buy food? A small equipment. It needs to function with

Monday, May 26, 2014 Nunavut Hansard 134 explanation on how the $700,000 will be For those companies that make spent. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. companies, why can’t they just make it so that it just smokes and it doesn’t have Chairman: Thank you. Minister Ell. any bad contents in it?

Hon. Monica Ell: Thank you, Mr. Looking at the issue, there’s people Chairman. The Nunavut Food Security hungry out there….extremely hungry out Strategy and Action is an action plan there in Nunavut, and the $2.5 million… that includes the development of a new . I think we have to change the way we country food procurement and handling think. We have to try and help give guidelines for government-funded healthy food to the people who are facilities and programs. It is to expand hungry. What can we do about the core recipe project throughout cigarettes? How can we correct the Nunavut and a creation of an annual issue? I’m very concerned about the fact report. Just recently, health also that chemicals have been added to completed a launch of a website called tobacco is no good. They’re no good for “Healthy Living” Thank you, Mr. our body. If was the big boss I would tell Chairman. the tobacco company just make tobacco smoke safe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Savikataaq. Chairman: I think that was more of a Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. comment and not a question. Mr. Enook. Chairman. Just for clarification. None of this money will be used to purchase Mr. Enook: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I food. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. move to report progress.

Chairman: Minister Ell. Chairman: We have a motion on the floor to report progress and the motion is Hon. Monica Ell (interpretation): No. not debatable. All those in favour of the Thank you, Mr. Chairman. motion? Opposed. The motion is carried. I will now rise to report progress. Chairman: Thank you. I have another last name on the list. Mr. Shooyook. Thank you to the ministers and staff.

Sergeant-at-Arms. Mr. Shooyook (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am concerned Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. about tobacco as well. I will be speaking Item 22. Report of the Committee of the on that matter now. Tobacco is a very Whole. Mr. Akoak. difficult issue. The $2.5 million is set aside for it. How can we do this? Item 22: Report of the Committee of Looking at a cigarette it’s got a bunch of the Whole contents in it, some of it is poisonous, some of it can kill you. No wonder it’s Mr. Akoak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. bad for you. Your committee has been considering Bill 2 and the main estimates and would like to report progress. Also, Mr.

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Speaker, I move that the Report of the 14. Tabling of Documents Committee of the Whole be agreed to. 15. Notices of Motions Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 16. Notices of Motions for First Speaker: Is there a seconder? Mr. Reading of Bills Okalik. The motion is in order. All those in favour. Opposed. The motion is 17. Motions carried. 18. First Reading of Bills

Item 23. Third Reading of Bills. Item 24. 19. Second Reading of Bills Orders of the Day. Mr. Clerk. 20. Consideration in Committee of

Item 24: Orders of the Day the Whole of Bills and Other

Matters Clerk (Mr. Quirke): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just a reminder that there’s a  Bill 2 meeting tomorrow morning at nine o’clock in the Tuktu Room with the  Bill 3 Standing Committee on Legislation. 21. Report of the Committee of the

Orders of the Day for May 27: Whole 22. Third Reading of Bills 1. Prayer 23. Orders of the Day 2. Ministers’ Statements Thank you. 3. Members’ Statements 4. Returns to Oral Questions Speaker: Thank you. This House stands adjourned until Tuesday, May 27, at 5. Recognition of Visitors in the 1:30 p.m. Gallery (interpretation) Sergeant-at-Arms. 6. Oral Questions 7. Written Questions >>House adjourned at 18:01 8. Returns to Written Questions 9. Replies to Opening Address 10. Replies to Budget Address 11. Petitions 12. Responses to Petitions 13. Reports of Standing and Special Committees on Bills and Other Matters