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IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD Proceeding 91223952 Party Plaintiff Sky International AG Correspondence MARK H TIDMAN Address BAKER & HOSTETLER LLP 1050 CONNECTICUT AVENUE NW, SUITE 1100 WASHINGTON, DC 20036-5304 UNITED STATES [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] 202-861-1500

Submission Other Motions/Papers Filer's Name Jacqueline M. Lesser Filer's email [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Signature /Jacqueline M. Lesser/ Date 09/28/2018 Attachments 91223952_180928_Testimonial Declaration of Jonathan Levy_Redacted.pdf(717422 bytes ) Exhibit A ALLRefer.pdf(955508 bytes ) Exhibit B Sky _ News International.pdf(744312 bytes ) Exhibit C Macrumors Sky ESPN.pdf(529527 bytes ) Exhibit D Sky Press Release US Presidential Coverage.pdf(373410 bytes ) Exhibit E YouTube.pdf(367199 bytes ) Exhibit F YouTube.pdf(452440 bytes ) Exhibit G Sky Zuckerberg Congressional Testimony.pdf(5247940 bytes ) Exhibit H YouTube Hurricane Florence.pdf(333432 bytes ) Exhibit I The Latest News from the UK and Around the World _ .pdf(725473 bytes ) Exhibit K FB.pdf(784243 bytes ) Exhibit L .pdf(1243696 bytes ) Exhibit M FB Analytics_Redacted.pdf(234541 bytes ) Exhibit N Twitter Analytics_Redacted.pdf(399134 bytes ) Exhibit O Sky News Washington cameraman Duncan Sharp on shooting with the GH5 - Newssh.pdf(1241180 bytes ) Exhibit P Sky New Emmy Press Release.pdf(356669 bytes ) Exhibit Q Fox News Bug.pdf(254016 bytes ) Exhibit R Sky Sports.pdf(1769125 bytes ) Exhibit S CBS Sky News Weinstein Melissa Thompson.pdf(3110632 bytes ) Exhibit T Sky Youtube Weinstein.pdf(317646 bytes ) Exhibit U Sky News 2011.pdf(567927 bytes ) Exhibit V The Guardian Sky News 2018.pdf(863941 bytes ) Exhibit J Statistics_Redacted.pdf(168853 bytes ) IN THE UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD

SKY INTERNATIONAL AG, Serial No.: 86/481,934

Opposer, Opposition No. 91223952

v. Mark: SKY CINEMAS

SKY CINEMAS LLC, Publication Date: May 26, 2015

Applicant.

TESTIMONIAL DECLARATION OF JONATHAN LEVY

I, Jonathan Levy, do hereby declare that:

1. I am the Director of Newsgathering and Operations, Sky UK Limited. I am responsible

for all of the newsgathering operations for SKY NEWS, including the United States. I

have been employed by Sky UK Limited since 2002, and am resident in Sky UK

Limited’s office. I have held my current position since 2011. I make the

following statements in support of Sky International AG’s opposition to registration of

SKY CINEMAS by Sky Cinemas LLC. All statements made herein are based on my

personal knowledge, or records kept by my company as they relate to SKY NEWS in the

United States.

2. By way of personal background, I began my career as a news editor and producer for the

London office of NBC News, in 1998. Thereafter, I was employed by Sky News in

positions of increasing responsibility. In 2002, I worked as an output producer for SKY

NEWS. From 2003 – 2005 I worked as a producer on stories in the UK and across the

world, including America. Between 2005 and 2011, I ran Sky News’ political coverage and in 2011, I was made Director of Newsgathering and Operations for SKY NEWS. In

my role, I am responsible for journalists and technicians in the UK and internationally,

including in our U.S. offices.

3. SKY NEWS is a 24 hour multimedia news source that is available throughout the world.

SKY NEWS was launched by in 1989. Since its inception, SKY

NEWS has become one of the top news sources worldwide. SKY NEWS is the fourth

highest rank news source worldwide, ranked with the BBC, FOX News and MSNBC.

Attached hereto as Exhibit A is a true and correct copy of a news article and third party

reference to most popular news channels throughout the world, located at:

http://www.allrefer.com/top-10-popular-news-channels-world. Television viewers

throughout the world are familiar with SKY NEWS. SKY NEWS is an unrivalled,

world class breaking news service with a spirit of innovation and a fresh approach to

news broadcasting. It reaches 102 million homes worldwide. Attached hereto as Exhibit

B is a printout of pages from the Sky News International website, located at:

http://www.skynewsinternational.com/about.

4. SKY NEWS International is available in the United States, as well as throughout the

world. In the U.S., SKY NEWS is an emerging market. SKY NEWS International

became available to U.S. consumers through Apple TV and ROKU in 2013. Attached

hereto as Exhibit C is a true and correct copy of a third party article on the introduction

of SKY NEWS International through Apple TV, located at:

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/19/apple-adds-watchespn-hbo-go-sky-news-and-

more-to-apple-tv/.

2 4840-1188-3381.1 5. Since that time, SKY NEWS International has covered the most prominent U.S. news

stories. Attached hereto as Exhibit D is a true and correct copy of the press release for

SKY NEWS U.S. Presidential coverage. This document is a company record,

maintained in the ordinary course of business.

6. On September 30, 2014, SKY NEWS began live streaming the channel on YouTube.

Exhibits E located at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=For_WjPZ8qo and Exhibit F

located at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty5gpCdDrWQ are true and correct

copies of YouTube downloads of SKY NEWS coverage of the U.S. Presidential

election.

7. Attached hereto as Exhibit G is a true and correct copy of SKY NEWS footage of the

Congressional questioning of Mark Zukerman, the CEO of Facebook, located at:

https://news.sky.com/story/live-zuckerberg-faces-second-day-of-questions-11326338.

8. Attached hereto as Exhibit H is a true and correct copy of SKY NEWS footage on

Hurricane Florence, available on the SKY NEWS YouTube channel, located at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u9n2iEYJEg.

9. SKY NEWS is also available through a live feed on the SKY website, located at

https://news.sky.com/. Attached hereto as Exhibit I are downloads of the SKY NEWS

website. The viewership for SKY NEWS live feed in the U.S. is represented as follows

in the *Confidential – Attorneys Eyes Only* table:

3 4840-1188-3381.1 10. The website is also available to viewers in the United States. The *Confidential –

Attorneys Eyes Only* table below sets out the cumulative daily unique figures for USA

in relation to Sky’s principal English websites for each financial year from 2012-2013

until 2017-2018. The daily unique figures represent the number of visitors (IP addresses)

who have used one browser application to view the relevant website at least once per

day. A granular breakdown of the yearly sums of daily unique figures is included in the

attached supporting evidence at Exhibit J.

11. We are also available on Facebook at: https://m.facebook.com/skynews and Twitter at:

https://twitter.com/skynews. Attached hereto as Exhibit K is a true and correct copy of a

downloaded page from the SKY NEWS Facebook and, as Exhibit L is a true and

correct download of the SKY NEWS Twitter feed. The U.S. represents the third largest

number of Facebook fans for SKY NEWS, and the second highest number of Twitter

account users. Attached hereto as Exhibit M are the *Confidential – Attorneys’ Eyes

Only* analytics for Facebook fans. These documents are business records of the

company, kept in the ordinary course of business. Attached hereto as Exhibit N are the

*Confidential – Attorneys’ Eyes Only* analytics for Twitter users. These documents

are business records of the company, kept in the ordinary course of business. SKY

NEWS is also available on the SKY NEWS App. The *Confidential – Attorneys Eyes

Only* table below set out the statistics of U.S. viewers of SKY NEWS on the App:

4 4840-1188-3381.1 This information is a summary of the confidential business records of the company, kept

in the ordinary course of business.

12. As a multinational newsgathering operation, we have resident news bureaus in the

United States. Sky operates two U.S. news bureaus – in Washington D.C. and New

York City in which we provide U.S. news for distribution throughout the world. In

addition, we have a live studio in Los Angeles. We have had a dedicated U.S. team since

the mid-1990s. Our U.S. newsgathering operations includes Cordelia Lynch; Hannah

Thomas-Peter; Greg Milam; and Amanda Walker. Our press credentials identify our

news team as SKY journalists and technicians. We are well known in the trade, and to

television viewers in the U.S.

13. The U.S. newsgathering team has been the subject of acclaim. Sky News U.S. bureau

photographer, Duncan Sharp has been the recipient of several White House News

Photographer’s awards for filming and editing. Attached hereto as Exhibit O is a true

and correct copy of an article on Sky News photographer, Duncan Sharp. Attached

hereto as Exhibit P is a true and correct copy of a press release on SKY NEWS receipt

of an International Emmy award, located at: https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/media-

centre/articles/en-gb/sky-news-wins-international-emmy. The presentation was made in

New York in September 2016 for the category of News and Current Affairs.

5 4840-1188-3381.1 14. Additionally, through its relationship with Fox News, Sky has regularly provided Fox

News with news footage by way of clippings of international news and sports news

events. When Fox News uses SKY clippings, the SKY bug appears on the upper left

hand corner of the television screen. Attached as Exhibit Q is a true and correct copy of

the SKY NEWS logo bug as it appears on a Fox news screen. SKY SPORTS is also

available through www.skysports.com. Attached hereto as Exhibit R is a true and

correct copy of a download of the skysports.com website.

15. SKY NEWS is also the subject of attributions in third party press, often sets the lead

with news-breaking content. For example, recently CBS aired footage from SKY

NEWS on the Harvey Weinstein rape allegations. Attached hereto as Exhibit S is a true

and correct copy of CBS News release of the exclusive Sky News video of Harvey

Weinstein caressing rape accuser, Melissa Thompson, located at:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvey-weinstein-video-shows-movie-mogul-caressing-

rape-accuser-melissa-thompson/. Attached hereto as Exhibit T is a true and correct copy

of the actual SKY NEWS exclusive footage of Harvey Weinstein behaving

inappropriately, and is available on YouTube at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC4eog5cY9Q.

16. Even before the introduction of the SKY NEWS International service in the U.S., third

party press referenced SKY NEWS in articles because of our ability to scoop our

competitors, and our commitment to reporting, regardless of perilous conditions. For

example, in 2011, SKY NEWS correspondent, Alex Crawford’s scoop of the Libyan

rebel’s advance in 2011 was called out by third party press. Attached hereto as Exhibit

U is an article from The Guardian, U.S. edition, detailing Sky News’ broadcast of live

6 4840-1188-3381.1 footage, located at: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/aug/22/sky-news-libyan-

rebels. Ms. Crawford was subsequently part of the SKY NEWS team that received an

International Emmy for reporting on migrant refugees at the Hungary-Serbia border.

17. More recent examples of U.S. third party press using SKY NEWS content is found at

Exhibit S hereto, from The Guardian, U.S. edition, July 30, 2018, which featured

footage from SKY NEWS. Attached hereto as Exhibit V is a true and correct copy of

the article, “Offering second Brexit referendum would strengthen PM against Tory

Brexiters, says Mandelson – as it happened,” located at:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/jul/30/post-brexit-scheme-for-eu-

nationals-should-be-prototype-for-national-id-card-scheme-says-thinktank-politics-live.

18. In summary, based on my professional, industry experience in the news industry, and

my years at SKY NEWS, I am able to state, without question, that SKY NEWS is

known to U.S. viewers, both expats who live in the U.S. and increasingly by Americans.

Americans have become familiar with SKY through SKY NEWS and SKY SPORTS

NEWS. American viewers identify SKY NEWS from attributions in third party

publications. Americans view SKY NEWS via the live feed https://news.sky.com/ or

the YouTube channel site, as well as other SKY sites. Americans are increasingly SKY

NEWS Twitter followers and Facebook fans. Americans subscribe to the SKY NEWS

YouTube channel. Americans view SKY NEWS on our various media platforms.

Expats from many countries of the world – not just the UK, but from India, Brazil, the

EU, Italy, any place around the world know the SKY name – and connect SKY with our

7 4840-1188-3381.1

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

I, Andrew Hsu, hereby certify that a true and correct copy of the foregoing Testimonial

Declaration of Jonathan Levy was served on Baxter W. Banowsky, counsel for Applicant, by email at: [email protected] on September 28, 2018.

/s/ Andrew Hsu Andrew Hsu

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DDaddyx2 69 months ago

Probably not but Amazon does have their video app for iOS devices A channel similar to what's on the iPad, where Prim e subscribers can watch their free content, shouldn't be a threat to Apple any more than Netflix is. If I want to rent a movie that isn't on Prime, then Apple can still force you to use iTunes.

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acidblue 69 months ago

Yeah, what's the theory here? One can enjoy watching HBO on the same TV as before but with a different remote? Snazzy!

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Well, if you know someone that has HBO and they don't use their HBO Go service... I'm just sayin'....

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Did they also add Cinemax Go?

Apple isn't big on porn. ;-)

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More presenters, specialists and social media producers deployed than ever before

New nightly show, America Decides, Hosted by Jeremy Thompson

Sky News will kick off its special multi-platform US election coverage from America on Monday 31 October with a nightly show presented by veteran news anchor, Jeremy Thompson, who is covering his 6th US election. America Decides will air at midnight to 1am (UK) Monday-Friday, bringing Sky customers the latest developments, interviews and analysis of the closing stages of the campaign.

Sky News will then be presented live from Monday 7th November from a specially created studio overlooking Times Square in the heart of New York. Non-stop coverage will continue through to the end of Wednesday 9th November before transferring to Washington on Thursday 10th November, as attention turns to the US capital and the job facing the new President.

Adam Boulton, Kay Burley, Gillian Joseph, Sarah-Jane Mee, Dermot Murnaghan and Jeremy Thompson will all anchor the channel's coverage from Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump's home state of New York. Special editions of Sunrise, All Out Politics, Sky News Tonight and MURNAGHAN will all be broadcast from the US. There will also be teams embedded with both campaigns and reporters in the key swing states that will determine the outcome of the election.

On election night, Jeremy Thompson will anchor Clinton v Trump: America Decides from the studio in Times Square, will be in Washington and Kay Burley will be travelling around New York City speaking to voters, campaigners and officials. The show will start at 10pm (UK), ahead of the first polls closing at midnight (UK), through to Sunrise the next day, and will air both on Sky News and Sky Atlantic.

The coverage will also be streamed live via Sky News’ Facebook, Twitter and YouTube channels as part of Sky’s ongoing multi-platform engagement with viewers. Bespoke social

https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/media-centre/articles/en-gb/sky-news-announces-multiplatform-us-election-coverage-plans[9/20/2018 4:30:44 PM] Sky Corporate | Sky.com media content includes a 360 degree film telling the story of the night, US Election explainers demystifying the campaign, a ‘Disunited States’ social series featuring interviews with election experts and a collection of Facebook Lives taking place across the US with the Sky News team.

There will be also be a comprehensive, instantly responsive results service on TV, mobile, social and Sky Q, bringing customers every result as it happens.

Sky News is subscribing to the official National Exit Poll for the most immediate result and comprehensive analysis of the election, even before the result is officially called. Sky News will also carry the official exit poll data from the 5 most important swing states, bringing unrivalled insight into how, why and where the election is won and lost. Economics Editor Ed Conway will present this information overnight, with Sophy Ridge taking over the next day. Throughout election night Jeremy Thomson will be joined by one of America's foremost polling experts and election forecasters, Professor Todd Donovan from West Washington University.

There will also be teams live in all the swing states that matter; Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida and Arizona. There the teams will talk to the voters who will decide the outcome, bringing the human stories behind the election to the fore.

Sky News is sending more people than ever before to cover the election including social media and mobile video producers who will be making bespoke content for all platforms. Sky News specialists and correspondents who will be offering their expertise include Dominic Waghorn, Amanda Walker, Cordelia Lynch, Hannah Thomas-Peter, Greg Milam, Mark Stone, Michelle Clifford, Lisa Holland, Ian Woods, Siobhan Robbins and Nick Martin.

Head of Sky News John Ryley said: “No American election campaign has captured the world's attention like this one. We are sending more people than ever before to cover the most bitter and controversial election in modern US history bringing our customers the best news, debate and analysis from our unrivalled team of specialists and presenters across TV,

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WHAT IS YOUR BACKGROUND AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING IN THE INDUSTRY?

I am currently based in Washington DC for Sky News as one of four camera operator/editors based in the US.

I have worked for Sky News for 14 years and during that time I have also been based in the and Brussels bureaus as well as working on a wide variety of stories while I was based in London.

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As well as working on the day-to-day news demands, since arriving in Washington I’ve been given the opportunity to shoot and edit several one-hour documentaries and “Special Reports” that have been broadcast on various Sky channels.

I have won several White House News Photographer’s awards for filming and editing and I was also nominated for “Young Journalist of the Year” at the RTS in the UK.

I AM SURE YOU HAVE ACCESS TO AN ENG BROADCAST CAMERA, WHY DO YOU CHOOSE TO USE A GH4 AND GH5?

I am provided with several cameras to do my job including a Sony PXW-X400, a Sony PXW-X200, and a Sony

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X70. However, I also use my GH4/GH5 camera as much as possible. There are several reasons these cameras are often better suited to what I do and the “aesthetic” or “look” that a larger sensor camera provides is the most important one.

A lot of people would argue that a Micro 4/3 sensor isn’t large enough but compared to the 2/3’ chip it’s huge! I find the GH4/GH5 are a great combo for solo operator two camera interviews. I love the form factor and flexibility that the lenses provide me which help me to achieve the style that I think best tells the stories I work on. Obviously, news is quite a unique beast but I find that the portability and stabilization of the camera to be extremely versatile. In the past, we’ve all been jealous of the locations and positions that photographers can get to with the kit that they have been using for decades.

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Numerous foreign media outlets were banned from covering the events where their kit clearly identified them as such. But I was able to queue up as a member of the public while concealing my GH4, a few lenses and a microphone in my bag. Using this kit gave me access to locations that many of my colleagues could not reach and this allowed me to shoot pictures that no one else could get from the official “press pen”. As well as this freedom I enjoyed, the camera’s features allowed me to shoot material at a much higher frame rate which added another aspect to my pictures.

Despite these huge advantages, I must point out where this setup is lacking. Following a subject while on a tripod or hand-held while broadcasting LIVE pictures is virtually impossible due to the lack of a broadcast lens. But this is exactly why this is not the only camera in my arsenal and for such instances, I would choose to use another, better-suited camera for the job.

WHY CHOOSE THE GH5 OVER SAY A CANON C300 MARK II OR A SONY FS7 FOR INSTANCE?

Great question. I bought into the Micro 4/3 infrastructure early, starting with the GH2 back in the day. I had a few lenses (nothing compared to what I have now) and at that time it was a camera I only used on specific assignments – mainly in hostile environments or stories that required discretion.

At this early stage, there were concerns that this new breed of cameras was lacking some of the features that traditional ENG news cameras had but nobody could ignore the potential they were showing at the time.

I was very keen to get my hands on some of this kit but as it was not yet supported by the organisation that I worked for, I had to be smart and decide what would best do the job without costing too much of my own money. I invested in a GH4 kit and lenses while I was based in Brussels in 2013 – something I could never have done if I had needed to purchase the more expensive C300 or FS7 options. Their size and form would also have made it difficult to justify during these early days when I had to travel with essentially two kits – my large ENG camera and my GH4 kit.

It was a decision that not only paid off but also set the ball rolling (along with the help of a few other Sky News

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operators out there) to establish this new and alternative approach to capturing the news that sits alongside the more traditional broadcasting cameras that continue to sit at the centre of Sky News’ newsgathering operations.

This continues to develop today as improvements in technology and features are giving us the best of both worlds.

After years of developing my workflows and techniques, I now feel confident only using the larger ENG cameras for specific jobs and rely on my GH4/5 setup, coupled with a Sony X70, to deliver the majority of my work out on the road for Sky News. It’s not always perfect and arguably the ENG camera would produce better results on certain occasions but the form factor and flexibility more than makeup for this most of the time.

These days it is all about having choices

WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT THE GH5?

Trump tradeof - Sky News from Duncan Sharp

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Panasonic has nailed the colours. In my opinion, it’s nicer than the Sony A7sII

IBIS – I touched on this briefly, this has really been a game changer. I could never really move with the GH4, Hand holding shots was fine but only with image stabilized lenses. Now I can shoot with any of my prime lenses handheld.

Ex-tele mode – This is just fantastic for news and I use it all the time. It enables the camera to crop the sensor

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only using the HD section. This gives you a 2x crop factor while running around, with a push of a button I now turn my f2.8 12-35 (35mm equivalent) to a 24-140(ish). Same goes for picking off a shot from a distance with the 35-100. There are limitations – this mode gets pretty noisy at ISO1600 and above.

The kit is small, light and affordable by comparison. Making this idea for news. I can fit all my kit in a medium backpack.

Codecs – I don’t shoot in 4k, Sky news doesn’t have the infrastructure but having the option is great at 50p Occasionally I’ll shoot an interview in 4k so I can step into it in the edit. This was an issue when having to step down to progressive, Sky needs footage delivered in 1080i50, you can get away with turning 50p to 50i but not 25p. The new 200mb All-Intra codec is brilliant and actually a better codec than my x400 ENG camera. Of course, this is 50p only.

Finally, I would argue that with the range of codecs available for the GH5 – 10 bit 4k60p etc, the gap has closed considerably. You can’t beat the reach of the GH5 with the Leica 100-400mm it’s not fast but in daylight absolutely fine, with the EX-tele mode enabled this turns into a 1600mm lens. IBIS has been a game changer with the GH5 paired with the 12-35. It’s not quite as smooth as a gimbal but certainly not far off. Leagues better than walking with a large ENG camera on your shoulder.

ARE THERE ANY DOWNSIDES TO USING THE GH5?

A few as far as I’m concerned. Its form factor has both pro’s and cons and this wouldn’t be exclusive to the

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GH5 – all DSLR suffer on something.

It takes me longer to assemble the camera, put the monitor on, XLR attachment, ENG cameras are ‘good to go’. Certainly, not a deal breaker but does add time. It is quite heavy and awkward to hold when the monitor is attached. With dual IS it isn’t a problem but my arms get tired quickly just because I can’t distribute the weight.

Low light – I don’t like to push it above ISO1600.

I’m really looking forward to getting my hands on the GH5S, also to see how clean the images are when using the EX-Tele mode.

HOW DO YOU CAPTURE YOUR AUDIO?

I use the Panasonic XLR attachment with two Sennheiser AVX Radio mics – I upgraded the standard mics to the MKE2-Gold Sennheiser Lavalier mics. This made a huge difference. The standard mics shipped with the units aren’t fit for purpose in my opinion.

I also use a Sennheiser MD-46 handheld mic for loud environments and snatched interviews – I just run an XLR to mini jack into one of the AVX transmitters. This mic is pretty good – the dynamic range isn’t amazing but with minimal work in Adobe Premiere Pro, you can get it sounding great, and importantly voices aren’t drowned out by loud background noise.

WHAT LENSES DO YOU USE?

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I’ve amassed quite a few lenses now:

Panasonic 12-35 mk2 – Great with dual IBIS – Main run and gun lens

Sigma 18-35 f1.8 with Speedbooster Ultra – Great for interviews and low light filming – I used this for both pieces to camera in the Utah piece and filming in both factories.

Laowa 7.5mm f2 – pin sharp wide angle.

Leica Nocticron 42.5 f1.2 – My go to interview lens, super sharp at 1.2 and has dual IBIS so also a great lens for hand held shots and interviews

Zeiss Millvus 100 f2 with speedbooster Ultra – 35mm equivalent focal length of 142mm – This is a great tight interview lens.

Panasonic G X Vario 35-100mm f/2.8 II POWER O.I.S. Lens – speaks for itself really

Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400mm f/4-6.3 ASPH. POWER O.I.S. Lens – Get out of jail lens, I use this way more than I thought I would, Super handy for getting shots you’d only really get using an ENG camera. Super sharp through the range.

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I like to have a variable ND filter on each of my lenses. That way I don’t waste time when swapping.

ARE YOU SHOOTING IN V-LOG OR A STANDARD PICTURE PROFILE?

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I shoot in Natural picture profile with saturation/contrast/sharpening turned down to -2. I just love the colours. LOG produces nice results and I have used it for an entire piece but for quick turnaround stuff it’s not that practical and I have to be able to send pictures back to London ready to go to air.

I definitely plan on filming a long-form piece entirely in LOG but want to wait until I have another GH5 / GH5S to match up when filming two camera interviews.

I use the Leeming LUT for LOG, which I would highly recommend.

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– shot in LOG using LEEMING LUT – one day shoot and edit piece

HOW BIG IS THE KIT YOU TAKE ON THE ROAD, AND WHAT DOES IT CONSIST OF?

GH5 Panasonic DMW-XLR1 XLR Microphone Adapter 2 x Sennheiser AVX mics Blackmagic video assist with Small Rig cage Smallrig articulating arm 2071 Alladin A-lite – top light Zacuto GH5 cage Rode Video Mic Pro with XLR to mini jack adapter (for use with Panasonic XLR arrachment) 6 x LP-E6 Batteries – with Blackmagic power supply (charges the batteries when connected to monitor) 6 x GH5 Batteries

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2 x Dual USB GH5 Battery charger 1 x Dual LP-E6 Battery charger 2 x 16×9 Cine lock quick release for articulating arm to monitor / GH5 Lenses listed above

I can fit my entire kit including audio/monitor/lenses and body into the Lowpro Protactic 450 backpack.

It’s pretty heavy but it’s a great backpack so the weight doesn’t really bother me. This fits into all the overhead compartments on US domestic flights – some of the planes are really small, anything bigger and I could be faced with having to gate check it.

ARE YOU EDITING YOUR OWN MATERIAL, IF SO, WHAT SYSTEM ARE YOU USING AND WHAT IS YOUR WORKFLOW?

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Yes, I edit my own material using Premiere Pro. The Blackmagic Design Video Assist monitor has become key to this workflow. The broadcast standard Sky News uses is 1080i50 – The GH5 only records 10bit in 50p so I have found a handy work around. I set the camera to output 1080i via HDMI and I use the Video Assist to record that signal into Pro Res 422. Before getting the monitor I was having to transcode all my material into 50i before the edit. It was really time-consuming and often put me under pressure. Now I can start editing instantly with Premiere Pro’s very clever ingest settings. Once this has been enabled and you’ve set your ingest destination – you drag the clips directly from the SD card to your premiere project and start editing right away, you can create sequences, mark clips, pick interviews. Seamlessly in the background Media encoder starts copying the clips you’ve introduced into your project to your scratch disk, once each clip has copied it lets premiere know to look for the clip there rather than the SD card. In a news environment, this is a game changer.

When shooting in slow motion I actually like to use media encoder to transcode for that entire scene. The monitor only reads the high frame rate clips as 50p as this conversion is done in camera, so to keep my shots in sequence I find it best to encode off the card

I use two methods to deliver the final cut piece. If it is for on the day news I use Media encoder – H264 2-Pass 10mb/ps target bitrate with a max of 30mb/ps. If it’s not for on the day then I just do a match source rewrap in Prores or MXF OP1a AVC-Intra 100

I use the built-in Lumetri colour panel in Premiere Pro for color grading.

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Sky News Special Report - MS13: Murder in the Suburbs from Duncan Sharp

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HAS SKY NEWS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR DECISION TO USE THE GH5?

In the early days, there were concerns about how these cameras would stack up against traditional broadcast

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equipment, in particular regarding codecs, data rates, and formats.

Technological advances, coupled with extensive R&D in the field by a group of dedicated operators, have meant a lot of these concerns have been addressed and Sky News continues to develop their approach to using large sensor cameras that better serve their goals in an ever-changing news landscape.

Duncan’s body of work is certainly impressive and it just shows you what is capable with a small, compact camera kit. As I always say, it’s not about the kit, it’s how you use it. In the hands of a highly skilled operator such as Duncan, the GH5 can be used to great effect.

What did you think about Duncan’s work? Do you have any questions for him? Are you shooting news or documentaries on small cameras? Let us know in the comments section below.

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Chris R. • 8 months ago +1 Great Article! I also use X70 and GH4/GH5 but coming from big shouldermount ENG cameras. Sometimes i miss

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the handling of the big ENG camera and lenses. And to have one camera and one lens for everything. But not often. I really like the possibilities this little cameras have to offer. And as im getting older and older i LOVE the weight of this gear :-)

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David Patterson • 8 months ago Great article! It is reassuring to see what the GH5 can do in the hands of a working professional. Duncan's work is great all around, so thanks for posting this article. +1 for more articles like this.

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Isaac Alonzo • 8 months ago That's my GH5 kit, difference is that my monitor of choice is the SmallHD Focus, it helps a lot when shooting log to be able to apply a LUT and configure a couple of screens with false color and focus peaking. The GH5s it does shoots with a larger sensor but it lacks IBIS so it depends how you move it around and auto focus isn't fast enough to be in a gimbal expecting to pull focus for you. These cameras with great codecs are changing the way I look at shoots since I am not chained to a tripod or shoulder mounted positions.

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RentEmSpoons • 8 months ago Great article , thank you.

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Roly • 8 months ago Just to add my voice to the chorus…

Great article. More like this, please!

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Caine • 8 months ago It's so refreshing to have an article like this, especially exploring the workflow benefits, challenges and constraints it has; plus links to quality, real paid work, n not just bloggers making personal projects.

I definitely also appreciate your takes a gear reviews too, but more of this content too please, and especially around these people working in international long form / short form news gathering roles.

Cheers Matt Caine

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Larry Templeton > Caine • 8 months ago I agree. This is a great article. It really digs into what NewsShooter is all about. It’s easy to get distracted by gear and accessories.

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Superhypernatural • 8 months ago A very impressive write-up and a great inspiration! I also shoot news and mini-documentaries for TV over here in Europe. In the old times it was the PDWs of the stations but in the last years it's either my own C300 MkII or the Sony FS5. Recently I've purchased the Sony A7Rm3 for fast-paced jobs that require a really small footprint so it's just a backpack (holds mics, lenses, camera etc.) and a tripod. It's a lovely setup, great image quality and not comparable to the days when we had to drag those heavy guns around. I ingest the UHD footage directly to HD 422 via EditReady on my Macbook for conformity.

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Duncan Sharp > Superhypernatural • 8 months ago Edit ready is great but can't transcode my rushes from 50p to 50i - so it doesn't really have a place in my workflow. Also the speed I need to turn stuff around playing directly into the liveu really leaves me only one option - monitor recorder. I wish atomos made a decent 5" screen but the Blackmagic is doing a solid job

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Patrick > Duncan Sharp • 8 months ago Really interesting, and useful, piece. Talking about Atomos 5" monitors, what don't you like about the Ninja Blade?

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Duncan Sharp > Patrick • 8 months ago A few reasons, no SDI. Occasionally I need the option for feed from the monitor via SDI. It uses 2.5" HDD, I'd rather record on SD cards. The batteries it uses are much bigger and heavier making the whole unit much larger.

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Superhypernatural > Duncan Sharp • 8 months ago I haven't used it so far but I just checked and EditReady has a 50i option. Around here there are a lot of stations that also accept progressive material. How does your interlaced Prores material then get to the station? Do you send it online (I think that wouldn't be possible here) or do you give the card to the journalist?

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Duncan Sharp > Superhypernatural • 8 months ago I either feed from our office (export to playout server) 100mb fibre to the UK.

Or I store and forward out of the liveu.

Edit ready does transcode 50i if you give it 50i but last time I tried, it would only match source on the frame rate.

Great news if that's changed.

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eric westpheling • 8 months ago Great writeup. Curious if Ducan has gotten hands on with the new Sony 1" camcorders that have the next-gen autofocus, compared to the X70 he mentioned at the top. I personally am looking towards a kit with the GH5S (using the 12-100mm and some primes), the Sony PXW-Z90, and a Mavic air. Amazing things how small things have gotten these days.

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Duncan Sharp > eric westpheling • 8 months ago Hi Eric, yes am looking to upgrade to the z90. I'm happy with the mavic pro but would love better codecs / 1" sensor but then that puts it too close to the P4P. The fact the mavic air uses wifi worries me a bit.

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Scott R • 8 months ago Great article. I'm curious about handheld shooting with just the Zacuto "cage", as rigs can get very top heavy. Is the cage and IS sufficient, or does Duncan ever use more of a shoulder rig?

Also, I tried out a rubber eyecup for the GH4 and it covered part of the evf. What is the rubber eyecup? Thanks.

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Duncan Sharp > Scott R • 8 months ago Hi Scott, no I never use a shoulder rig. For me it would take up too much space, would take to long to build and really with dual IS I don't think it's that necessary.

I got the rubber eye cup from eBay. It's good, quite stuff but doesn't cover any part of the evf. I'm waiting for more options but it does the job for now.

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Scott R > Duncan Sharp • 8 months ago Thanks Duncan, I'll give it a try. Great work btw.

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Mark Dobson • 8 months ago Thanks Matt. Another really spot on informative article about Duncan Sharp and the kit he uses.

It's very tempting to go back down this route and the GH5 produces very appealing images.

I started off on my large sensor journey about 8 years ago with a Canon 7D. You quickly realise you need a lot more than just the camera and lenses. Monitor, ND filters, Zacuto Z-Finder to see the screen etc etc . I've now worked up to a C300mk2 with a Zacuto recoil rig and Gratical Viewfinder. Fantastic Images but it is a very heavy set up to carry around so reading this article is real food for thought.

I think, apart from the picture quality and ability play around with depth of field, that the form factor of DSLR filming is very attractive and that maybe over the years I've lost sight of the advantages of using these cameras.

Does Duncan carry a tripod around with him with this set up?

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Matthew Allard ACS Newsshooter Team > Mark Dobson • 8 months ago Yes I would think he absolutely carries around a tripod.

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Duncan Sharp > Matthew Allard ACS • 8 months ago Sorry. Totally forgot to mention my tripod. Yes, in fact I've had my Miller Ds20 for 6 years and still going strong.

It's a great tripod. Very light and sturdy. Goes pretty high and extremely low.

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LOLA • 8 months ago Great video pieces. Sadly since moving to the US I don't get to shoot as many non-reporter mini-docs as I used to. Been shooting as much as possible with the GH4/5 the last two years (often over my FS7 or Arri). Incredible for the money. Can't agree with him about the 100-400 enough. So useful! That, the Olympus 12-40 (or Pana 12-35), the Pana 20mm, the Laowa, and the 42.5 and you're set for any situation.

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LOLA > LOLA • 8 months ago And the SLR Magic Vari-NDs are the best.

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Rusty Earl • 8 months ago Excellent article! Thanks to both of you for your time. we have shot three feature length docs with the GH4 and now the GH5. They are brilliant little cameras for the money and certainly can get you into some tight spaces.

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Jim_Feeley • 8 months ago Great article. Thanks Matthew and Duncan!

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Sky News: Alex Crawford reporting live from the Libyan capital, Tripoli As the Libyan rebels swept into Tripoli last night and Muammar Gaddafi's regime began to disintegrate, Sky News emerged as the runaway winner in the battle of the broadcasters.

While journalists from the BBC and other networks were contained within the city's Rixos Hotel by armed guards loyal to Gadaffi, Alex Crawford, Sky's special correspondent, scooped all her rivals by broadcasting dramatic live footage from within the advancing rebel convoy.

Her bravery won legions of fans. At one point on Sunday night, Crawford was trending worldwide on Twitter, while Baroness Ashton, the EU's foreign policy chief, said her reporting was "quite astonishing".

Sky said that Crawford, a three-time journalist of the year, was able to transmit the footage, including scenes of the rebels celebrating in Green Square, via an ingenious marriage of old and new technology.

Footage from cameramen Jim Foster and Garwen Advertisement McLuckie was beamed live via an Apple MacBook Pro, connected to a BGAN mini-satellite dish, while the whole setup was powered via a charger attached to their pick-up truck's cigarette lighter socket. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/aug/22/sky-news-libyan-rebels[9/20/2018 4:41:33 PM] Sky News in the frontline as Libyan rebels advance | Media | The Guardian

In the back of the vehicle, Andy Marsh, the producer, sat holding the satellite dish and a , constantly readjusting the dish to track the satellite above. The arrangement proved so stable that at one stage Crawford was able to broadcast live and uninterrupted for 40 minutes, answering questions from Stephen Dixon, Sky's anchor in London.

Sarah Whitehead, the channel's head of international news, said: "It is still the cigarette lighter that is the source of power for everybody. But another key point is the producer in the back being able to track the satellite. The difference last night was that we were getting a good enough signal to keep filming as they were moving. Andy would have been constantly tilting the dish to track the satellite.

"I haven't seen the technology used like that before, and a lot of it has to do with the geographic situation of . But we are a 24-hour rolling news channel and it is all about following

Sign up to the the story." Media Briefing: news for the news- Whitehead said that the key to Crawford's access to the convoy makers was her contacts in Zawiyah, the western town from which she Read more had reported in March, under siege from Gaddafi's forces.

Crawford returned to Zawiyah on Saturday, as it was retaken by the rebels, and was able to re-establish contact with those she had met months earlier, securing passage with them on to Tripoli. "That stood us in good stead with the rebels," Whitehead said.

Despite the fact that Crawford was unharmed during the advance, the situation in the capital is far from safe. The BBC posted footage this morning of its correspondent Rupert Wingfield-Hayes coming under fire from Gadaffi's forces.

Kevin Bakhurst, controller of the BBC News channel, wrote on Twitter: "All credit to Alex Crawford and her team for her very brave reporting from Tripoli. It looks incredibly dangerous. Many teams on that convoy decided it was too risky/ dangerous to continue with rebels – which I also respect."

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At least three international broadcasters ended up with teams in Green Square in the early hours of Monday morning, all led by female correspondents. Crawford was followed into Green Square by crews from Al-Jazeera English and CNN: Zeina Khodr of AJE reached the square just before 2am local time, and Sara Sidner of CNN got there shortly afterwards. Sidner was forced to pull back to the outskirts of the city when the mood of celebration in Green Square turned tense.

Kodhr said her colleagues in the Rixos hotel, where international journalists sanctioned by the Gaddafi regime have been based, were still holed up there. "They are not able to leave the hotel because there are Gaddafi men in the building and around the area. They have been trapped there even before the rebels advanced into the city," she reported.

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30 Jul Afternoon summary 2018 11:03 UK negotiators have told their counterparts in Brussels that about 7,000 European-based investment funds that rely on British clients for their cash and profits will be hit by regulators unless the EU changes its position on the City of London after Brexit. As Daniel Boffey reports, as frustration grows within Whitehall at what is seen as a dogmatic position taken by the EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, the British side has upped the ante by making an implicit threat to EU interests. A section of a UK presentation made to the European commission’s negotiators last week, and seen by the Guardian, says that unless Brussels allows all UK sectors of the City of London to continue to operate after Brexit as they do today, at least initially, obstacles to European financial interests operating in the UK could also be put in place.

Peter Mandelson, the Labour former trade secretary and former , has said Theresa May should back a second referendum on Brexit because the prospect of such a vote would help her face down Tory Brexiters. (See 11.01am.) His advice was not welcomed by Downing Street, which said May remains opposed to a second referendum “in any circumstances”. (See 12.42pm.)

The Charity Commission has announced an investigation into the Institute of Economic Affairs thinktank after it em erged that the thinktank offered potential US donors access to UK government ministers as it raised cash for research to promote free-trade deals demanded by hardline Brexiters.

Two-thirds of Greater Manchester residents have experienced hateful behaviour on the grounds of characteristics such as race, religion and gender, according to a report commissioned in the aftermath of the Manchester Arena bomb.

The Scottish Labour party has published a report saying that children in care in Scotland are more likely to die than other children. But it is not known exactly how much more vulnerable they are because comprehensive death statistics are not maintained, the report says. Publishing it, Kezia Dugdale, the former Scottish Labour leader, said:

It’s a scandal that we don’t know exactly how many care-experienced young people die before their 25th birthday – but we do know it’s far too many.

This report has examined three keys aspects of their lives. Firstly, they are far more likely to die than their non-care experienced peers. Secondly, if they live, their lives will be poorer both in terms of their health and economic outlook. Finally, we have demonstrated beyond all doubt that their lives don’t count in public policy terms because we don’t count them. We don’t record either their lives or deaths properly, and the absence of data m eans the absence of public policy to improve their life chances.

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We hope that the Scottish government and MSPs will be moved to act in response. Together we can stop care experienced young people falling through the cracks.

A thinktank has said the “settled status” scheme fo r EU nationals living in the UK after Brexit should become the prototype for a national ID card scheme. (See 9.28am.)

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Jeremy Hunt, Britain’s new foreign secretary, has m ade an awkward debut in China when he sought to curry favour with his hosts by mentioning his Chinese wife, but accidentally referred to her as “Japanese”.

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30 Jul Here is some reaction to the Sky Data polling on Brexit mentioned earlier. (See 2018 10.48am.) This is from Sir , the Lib Dem leader. 10:17 In overwhelming numbers, people are concerned about the negative consequences of Brexit. However, the Tories are just not listening. They are instead consumed by chaos and confusion.

The Liberal Democrats do not accept the fatalistic view that people voted to be poorer. We do not believe the Brexit battle is over.

That is why we are fighting to give the people the final say on the deal, and an opportunity to exit from Brexit.

And this is from the Labour MP Phil Wilson, in a statement issued by the People’s Vote campaign.

We have reached a tipping point. With polling now consistently showing huge support for a People’s Vote, the will of the people is clear - they think Brexit is a mess and they want a say on the final deal. The car-crash that is the Prime Minister’s Chequers proposal has clearly succeeded in uniting the country - almost everyone thinks it would be terrible. With public opinion clearly against both the Chequers proposal and a no deal Brexit, the only way to sort out this shambles is through a people’s vote on the final terms of Brexit. Because Brexit is a big deal, but it’s not yet a done deal.

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30 Jul Peter Mandelson has also given an interview to LBC. In it, he accused what he 2018 described as “Brextremists” as being nationalists who “hate other countries”. Making a 10:00 distinction famously made by George Orwell (although on slightly different grounds), Mandelson said that he saw himself as a patriot. Nationalists were different, he went on:

These Brextremists are nationalists in the sense that they hate other countries, and they hate foreigners. And that is, in my view, what motivates them and drives their behaviour.

UPDATE: The ’ Sebastian Payne thinks Mandelson is going around the bend.

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With all due respect, I just can't understand what folks like Peter Mandelson hope to achieve with comments like this. Brexit has driven some usually smart people entirely round the bend. pic.twitter.com/nUXm1tzBcN

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Removal men take out belongings from the foreign secretary’s grace-and-favour residence in Carlton Gardens near Buckingham Palace Photograph: Jack Taylor/Getty Images

Boris Johnson appears to have accepted that “leave means leave” as removal vehicles were spotted outside the grace and favour home he lived in as foreign secretary the Press Association reports. Three weeks after quitting the cabinet in a row over Theresa May’s Brexit plans, his belongings were being removed from One Carlton Gardens in central London. One lorry and a minivan were parked behind the black gates of the property on Monday. A series of white boxes were loaded into the lorry - along with what appeared to be a case of Jacques Depagneux wine, a large painting, a luxury armchair and a home gym kit with a light set of dumbbells.

Impersonator Drew Galdron, who calls himself the Faux BoJo, arrived at the scene to celebrate, the Press Association reports. “It’s about time he left, said the 35-year-old, of Tooting, south-west London. The MP was not seen during the move, but his wife, Marina Wheeler, was. The removal lorry was packed up and moved on with the minivan by 2.15pm.

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Boris Johnson look-a-like Drew Galdron demonstrates outside as removal men remove belongings from the former foreign secretary’s grace-and-favour residence in Carlton Gardens Photograph: Jack Taylor/Getty Images

30 Jul The Charity Commission has announced an investigation into the Institute of Economic 2018 Affairs thinktank after it emerged that the thinktank offered potential US donors access 09:28 to UK government ministers as it raised cash for research to promote free-trade deals demanded by hardline Brexiters, my colleague Robert Booth reports.

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30 Jul Voting in the Green party leadership election opens today. There are four candidates for 2018 leader (the current co-leader Jonathan Bartley and Sian Berry on a joint ticket, Shahrar 09:26 Ali and Leslie Rowe) and five candidates for deputy leader. If one leader is elected there will be two deputies, but if Bartley and Berry are elected co-leaders, there will be just one deputy. There are more details here. The results will be announced in early September.

30 Jul , the home secretary, has announced today he is doubling the amount of 2018 money in the early intervention youth fund, which pays for projects designed to steer 09:02 young people away from violence. Funding is being doubled, and now £22m will be available over the next two years.

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30 Jul David Goodhart has been defending the Policy Exchange report he co-wrote saying 2018 the “settled status” scheme for EU nationals living in the UK after Brexit should become 08:18 the prototype for a national ID card scheme. (See 9.28am.)

David Goodhart (@David_Goodhart)

No need to carry a card indeed no need for a card at all with a unique number scheme, you make it voluntary and it is so convenient almost everyone will want to use it, then some time down the line you make it mandatory

July 30, 2018

Denis MacShane, the former Labour Europe minister, suggests the centre-right thinktank Policy Exchange was not so keen on the idea when the Blair government was promoting it.

Denis MacShane (@DenisMacShane)

I wonder where @PolicyExchange was leading up to 2010 when every right-winger and too many lib-lefties were ranting against ID as meaning Gestapo arriving in UK? May's abolition of ID removed a key tool in FoM management. @David_Goodhart @m_glendenning @JohnBew @stephenkb https://t.co/J1PQYLvSAh

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Who cares, says Goodhart in a reply.

David Goodhart (@David_Goodhart)

Who cares what PX thought in 2007? The good news is that its no longer only the embattled ex-Blairite gang who fly the flag for an ID system (no card needed now). And if PX has changed its position, well “There will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents etc”

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(See here for a bit more from me, in the comments BTL, on why the English/ British seem to have a cultural aversion to ID cards.)

30 Jul Javid defends his decision to accept death penalty as option for two 2018 jihadists facing trial in US 08:03 Sajid Javid, the home secretary, has insisted that he is opposed to the death penalty despite his decision to accept it as an option for two jihadists facing trial in the US. Speaking to the Press Association, he said:

Personally I don’t support the death penalty but on this particular case it’s in everyone’s interests that those individuals are brought to justice in the most appropriate jurisdiction.

Given, however, there may be some legal action over this it would be inappropriate for me to say anything further.

30 Jul Downing Street lobby briefing - Summary 2018 07:42 Here are the main points from the Number 10 lobby briefing.

The prime minister’s spokesman dismissed claims that the government was planning to call in the army in the event of a no deal Brexit. (See 11.34am.) ’s Tom Newton Dunn thinks the claim that ministers were planning for an army intervention was flawed in the first place.

Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn)

The idea that the Army is on standby to save the nation from no deal chaos is farcical - if only for the reason that years of cuts have left it far too small to do that. Perhaps 20,000 troops tops are now deployable.

July 30, 2018

The spokesman denied claims that the government has delayed the publication of around 70 technical reports explaining what plans are in place for a no deal Brexit. He said:

There is no delay. The prime minister said they would be published in August and September and that is what is going to happen.

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The spokesman rejected claims that the no deal repo rts are intended to alarm people so much that they conclude a no deal Brexit would be unacceptable. Tory Brexiters have been claiming this recently (despite the fact that for much of the last year they have been urging the government to say more about no deal planning) and today (paywall) splashes on these claims. Its story starts:

Theresa May has been accused of taking a “kamikaze” approach to leaving the without a deal by deliberately highlighting the negative consequences for the UK ... A cabinet source said: “It is designed by No 10 to do the opposite of what Brexiteers want. We could have made a strong case for no deal and said we were prepared. The way they are presenting it makes it look like Armageddon. “It is a kamikaze approach to no-deal. The truth is, it’s total chaos. They are deliberately trying to make no-deal look bad. “It’s a fallacy to say it will be a total disaster. It won’t. We need to highlight the risk for the European Union, the negatives for them .”

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The Telegraph (@Telegraph)

The front page of tomorrow's Daily Telegraph: 'May 'no deal' stance is kamikaze, say Leavers' #tomorrowspaperstoday pic.twitter.com/ZJutNizsW8

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The spokesman rejected this interpretation of the government’s motives. He said that the no deal reports were about “good planning and taking sensible precautions and absolutely nothing else”. He stressed that the government wanted a Brexit deal, and that this would be in the interests of the UK and the EU.

The spokesman refused to say whether the government would publish an

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analysis explaining what the impact of a no deal Brexit would be on EU countries. Steve Baker has revealed that, before he resigned as a Brexit minister over the Chequers plan, he commissioned research intended to show the negative effects of a no deal Brexit on the EU27. He wanted that published alongside the details of the government’s no deal planning, to reinforce the argument that the EU would suffer if it did not offer the UK a deal. Asked if this research would be published, the spokesman said “a lot of work” was being carried out by the Department for Exiting the EU (DExEU). He went on: “I would urge you to wait until the [no deal reports] are published before speculating on their contents.”

The spokesman played down a report in (paywall) claiming that the UK has privately conceded that the European court of justice will settle disputes about payment to the EU and the rights of EU nationals after Brexit. The Times story says:

Britain has privately conceded that EU judges will be legal arbiter of disputes over payments to Brussels and the residency rights of more than three million European citizens. In an attempt to break the deadlock in a key part of the negotiations the government has agreed to give the European Court of Justice (ECJ) the final say in the arbitration of arguments over the working of Brexit and any disputes over Britain’s £39 billion bill.

EU judges will also have the final say over a Irish border “backstop” if the trade deal between Britain and Europe leads to frontier checks.

Asked about this, the prime minister’s spokesman said that he did “not recognise” that report and that the Brexit negotiations were ongoing.

The spokesman reiterated May’s opposition to holdin g a second Brexit referendum “in any circumstances”. This was in a response to a question about Peter Mandelson’s claim that promising a second referendum would help the prime minister in her dealings with her Tory Brexiter critics. (See 11.01am.) Asked if the PM would be taking Mandelson’s advice, the spokesman said: “No.”

The spokesman said that David Lidington, the minister, is the most senior member of the government in the country. May is on holiday in Italy. In newspaper parlance that means Lidington is now “running the country”, although Number 10 insists the PM remains in charge even when she is abroad.

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30 Jul Boris Johnson is finally moving out of the foreign secretary’s official residence in 2018 Carlton Gardens, three weeks after his resignation, Sky’s Faisal Islam reports. 07:06

Faisal Islam (@faisalislam)

Removal lorry turned up outside Foreign Secretary’s residence in Carlton Gardens, started moving furniture out... after an interim period, leave now means leave pic.twitter.com/0vw2fxYJaQ

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30 Jul No 10 rejects claims government planning to call in army in event 2018 of no deal Brexit 06:34 I’m just back from the Number 10 lobby briefing. There was quite a lot on Brexit, although generally it did not add much to our sum of knowledge about what the government is up to. But the prime minister’s spokesman was keen to quash one of the more eye-catching stories in the Sunday papers.

Downing Street said there were “no plans” to call in the army in the event of a no deal Brexit. This was a response to a story in (paywall) saying:

Ministers have drawn up plans to send in the army to deliver food, medicines and fuel in the event of shortages if Britain crashes out of the EU without a deal. Blueprints for the armed forces to assist the civilian authorities, usually used only in civil emergencies, have been dusted down as part of the “no deal” planning. Helicopters and army trucks would be used to ferry supplies to vulnerable people outside the southeast who were struggling to obtain the medicines they needed.

Referring to this story, and talking about no deal planning, the spokesman said: “There are no plans to involve the army in this.”

I will post more from the briefing soon.

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30 Jul Offering second Brexit referendum would strengthen PM against 2018 Tory Brexiters, says Mandelson 06:01 Peter Mandelson, the Labour former trade secretary and former European trade commissioner, was on Sky’s All Out Politics earlier talking about the Sky Brexit poll. (See 10.48am.) He is one of the pro-Europeans who have been calling for a second referendum, but on the programme he put forward a relatively new argument in favour - that it would be not just democratically, but helpful to Theresa May too. He explained:

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People know want to make an informed judgment and choice between what is on offer as a result of this negotiation and the benefits we already have in the European Union.

Also I think, if [Theresa May] promises a people’s vote, it will strengthen her hand against the Brextremists in her own party. She’s got to turn around to them and say, ‘Look, what I negotiate has got to pass muster. It’s got to gain the support of the British people. So untie my hands, let me negotiate properly, because you’re going to face a public vote at the end of the day.’ And unless she can say that to them, they’re going to continue keeping her hostage ... In my view the only way we are going to give democratic legitimacy and approval to the final deal is if the people themselves can sign off on it. That’s what’s got to happen. And I think that Mrs May will be greatly assisted in dealing with her own party if they know that that public sanction, that backstop, is in place, at the end of the day. People have got to be able to make an informed choice and judgment between the best negotiation Mrs May can produce and the benefits we have existing in our membership of the European Union.

May, of course, has categorically ruled out accepting a second referendum.

I’m off to the lobby briefing now. I will post again after 11.30am.

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30 Jul Sky Data has released the results of an extensive poll on Brexit. Its headline figure is 2018 that 78% of people think the government is doing a bad job of negotiating Brexit, up 23 05:48 points from when Sky last polled on this in March. This reflects the findings of many

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other polls suggesting confidence in how the government is handling Brexit is falling, including ours last week.

Here are some of the other poll findings.

65% of people think the government will get a bad Brexit deal, the poll suggests - up 15 points from March. Amongst leave voters, 51% think the government will get a bad deal.

People are increasingly likely to think that Brexit will be bad for the economy (52%), the country generally (51%) and themselves personally (42%), the poll suggests.

Half the public support a three-option referendum on the final deal, leaving with no deal, or staying in, the poll suggests. Some 40% of people opposed the idea. With a preferential voting system, staying in would win, the poll suggests.

Asked to choose between those options, not leaving the EU would be the preferred option for 48%, with 27% preferring to leave the EU with no deal, and 13% choosing the government deal - 8% say they would not vote, 3% don’t know ... Were a referendum to take place asking for second preferences, in the final round remaining in the EU would have a clear lead over no deal Brexit by 59% to 41%, excluding those answering don’t know and those who would not vote.

Sky Data polls are controversial because they poll Sky customers. But their customer base is enormous (they have more than 12m in the UK and Ireland), and they weight the sample they use to make it representative of the population at large, and as a result their poll results tend to be in line with those of other polling companies.

30 Jul Conservative party members are more negative about the prospects of their party 2018 forming the government after the next general election than at any time since the last 05:19 one, according to a ConservativeHome survey of members. Here is an extract from Paul Goodman’s ConHome write up.

The previous lowest total for those believing either a) that there will be a Conservative majority after the next election, or b) that it will produce a Tory-led coalition, or c) that a minority Conservative government will take office was 59 per cent. That was January’s finding. This month it is down to 55 per cent, from 73 per cent last month – a dizzying fall of 18 per cent, and the lowest total on record for this question since we began asking it in the wake of last year’s general election.

30 Jul Immigration policy is obviously very important, but the best story of the morning is 2018 undoubtedly Jeremy Hunt, the new foreign secretary, telling his hosts at a meeting

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04:47 during his tour of China that his wife is Japanese - when in fact she’s Chinese.

Here is the story on our website.

Jeremy Hunt makes 'terrible' gaffe about his wife in China

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And the BBC’s Norman Smith has the video.

norman smith (@BBCNormanS)

Woop...woop.. Clanger Claxon ! Jeremy Hunt in China in diplomatic and domestic pile up .... pic.twitter.com/QyXdLn7tw8

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Anglo-Chinese relations are bound to suffer - in the Hunt household, if nowhere else.

It is quite something to follow Boris Johnson in a ministerial role and still look gaffe- prone on your first major trip.

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30 Jul Post-Brexit scheme for EU nationals should be turned into national 2018 ID card scheme, says thinktank 04:28 Brexit will undoubtedly change the UK in many way, and this morning a centre-right thinktank, Policy Exchange, suggests the government should use withdrawal from the European Union to resurrect an idea last popularised during the era - identity cards. The report says the new “settled status” system for EU nationals who stay in the UK after Brexit (which does not at present involve a card, although the Brexit committee said recently it should) should be converted into a national ID card system.

It says:

The one welcome consequence of the Windrush scandal has been a revival of the debate about ID cards. With more people living in the country temporarily, with more conditions on their residence, some form of unique number identification for establishing status (with the state, employers, landlords and so on) is vital for all those without permanent residence status. The identity management experiment for EU citizens remaining in the UK after Brexit should be a prototype for a national system.

And it claims that having a national ID card scheme could avert the repeat of another Windrush-style scandal.

We also strongly recommend re-opening the debate about ID cards or some form of national identity management system to reassure people in a world of ever rising human flows that we know who is in the country, for how long, and what

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their entitlements are. This is surely a bulwark against ugly forms of nativism. The move from a low control to a higher control border goes hand in hand with the move from a low documentation society to a higher documentation one. The often elderly Caribbeans caught up in the Windrush scandal were victims of that process being mismanaged, not the process itself. The justified outcry over the Windrush failure should not extend to challenging this shift to a higher control border, indeed a proper national ID system would have prevented the harassment of the Windrush victims. The system has evidently been too tough in some areas and not tough enough in others

The report has been written by Richard Norrie and David Goodhart, the “Road to Somewhere” author whose reservations about mass migration and support for the principle of native favouritism in the allocation of public services have made him a bête noire for liberals. It is a long report and there is a lot in it for those interested in border control policy.

Otherwise ... well, it’s recess, and the Westminster news fountain is starting to run dry. There are only three items in the diary today.

11am : Downing Street lobby brieifing.

11am : The Scottish Labour party publishes a report about the life chances of young people who have been in care in Scotland.

12pm: , the mayor of Greater Manchester, speaks at the launch of a report into extremism and social cohesion in Manchester following Arena bombing.

As usual, I will also be covering breaking political news as it happens, as well as bringing you the best reaction, comment and analysis from the web. I plan to post a summary at the end of the day.

You can read all today’s Guardian politics stories here.

Here is the Politico Europe round-up of this morning’s political news. And here is the PoliticsHome list of today’s top 10 must-reads.

If you want to follow me or contact me on Twitter, I’m on @AndrewSparrow.

I try to monitor the comments BTL but normally I find it impossible to read them all. If you have a direct question, do include “Andrew” in it somewhere and I’m more likely to find it. I do try to answer direct questions, although sometimes I miss them or don’t have time.

If you want to attract my attention quickly, it is probably better to use Twitter.

Updated at 6.24am EDT

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YorkerBouncer 30 Jul 2018 4:31 475

It's hard to think of any time in history when a Government could be telling people they're stockpiling food and medicines on the basis of choices taken by that Government which they don't have to take while still remaining popular. Although I'm enjoying the Brexiters throwing their toys out of the pram at the Government releasing details about what it's doing for "No Deal" after they kept pressing for them to do so. Obviously they expected the Government to go full unicorn.

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Fatnick YorkerBouncer 30 Jul 2018 4:35 126

It's hard to think of any time in history when a Government could be telling people they're stockpiling food and medicines on the basis of choices taken by that Government which they don't have to take while still remaining popular.

The only other times would be an actual war wouldn't they?

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crashdown88 YorkerBouncer 30 Jul 2018 4:35 134

That's been excellent "We should prepare for No Deal and just walk away!"

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"No, not like that!"

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Raptou 30 Jul 2018 4:32 81

Ah, ID cards. Comes up every 15-20 years like clockwork.

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LondoMolari Raptou 30 Jul 2018 4:35 42

I wonder why not just get done with it instead of talking about it over and over again.

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timothy1234 LondoMolari 30 Jul 2018 4:37 89

Because it's a shit idea

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