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1 00:00:51.900 --> 00:00:53.070 18605142053: Jay, can you hear me.

2 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:54.900 18605142053: I can. Hi, Jay.

3 00:00:55.710 --> 00:01:10.950 18605142053: Hi. How you do and I just wanted to check. I just wanted to check. I'm gonna, you know, I think you probably already know this, but I was just connected kind of report out what I know about the state like forum and forum. When you get the public when you get the public comment.

4 00:01:11.220 --> 00:01:13.740 18605142053: Yeah, that's fine. That's okay.

5 00:01:15.030 --> 00:01:15.480 18605142053: I'll me

6 00:01:16.860 --> 00:01:18.060 18605142053: Thanks for being here, Jay.

7 00:01:19.080 --> 00:01:22.620 18605142053: Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you for tolerating be

8 00:01:23.850 --> 00:01:25.680 18605142053: contacting you every day with something

9 00:01:27.540 --> 00:01:28.920 18605142053: I can't help myself.

10 00:01:29.190 --> 00:01:31.350 18605142053: I didn't know what to tell you. I can't help myself.

11 00:01:32.220 --> 00:01:35.280 Jo Keogh: My dear so active on the behalf of many

12 00:01:35.340 --> 00:01:36.870 Jo Keogh: Important causes in the state.

13 00:01:37.830 --> 00:01:53.550 18605142053: Well, I mean, I appreciate your saying that I'm trying, and I you know i'm i'm not only am I retired. I'm also sequestered because of covert. So this is my respite just being involved in stuff is my respite. You know, so

14 00:01:54.900 --> 00:02:02.010 18605142053: It. Anyway, I'll mute myself again until it's my turn to talk. I just wanted to say hi. Hello to everyone who's there. Okay.

15 00:02:02.070 --> 00:02:04.050 Thanks, Jay. Yes.

16 00:02:06.420 --> 00:02:06.930 I see.

17 00:02:08.130 --> 00:02:08.430 9BeEQU: Hello.

18 00:02:10.230 --> 00:02:12.210 Jo Keogh: Hi, Tracy. Thanks for being here.

19 00:02:15.510 --> 00:02:17.580 Jo Keogh: Did everyone have a good holiday.

20 00:02:18.690 --> 00:02:19.380 Juan Colberg: Yeah, quiet.

21 00:02:20.670 --> 00:02:21.270 9BeEQU: Quiet.

22 00:02:21.540 --> 00:02:22.440 That can be good.

23 00:02:44.550 --> 00:02:46.230 Andy Gottlieb: Happy New Year to most forgot

24 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:51.540 Andy Gottlieb: Everything still seems kind of the same. I know well

25 00:02:51.690 --> 00:02:56.250 Jo Keogh: Because it is except for one digit in the year, write it out.

26 00:02:57.660 --> 00:02:57.870 Yeah.

27 00:03:03.300 --> 00:03:04.320 Jack Evans: Hey, good evening.

28 00:03:05.070 --> 00:03:05.760 How you doing,

29 00:03:08.490 --> 00:03:12.030 Jack Evans: This is my fourth zoom meeting for the day.

30 00:03:13.140 --> 00:03:13.710 Jo Keogh: You

31 00:03:14.100 --> 00:03:14.220 Know,

32 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:18.420 Jack Evans: I, I just love it. So,

33 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:21.000 Jo Keogh: You know,

34 00:03:22.020 --> 00:03:24.060 Jo Keogh: It never gets never gets old, does it

35 00:03:25.590 --> 00:03:27.720 Jack Evans: No, it was the first one.

36 00:03:48.810 --> 00:03:49.170 Juan Colberg: Andy

37 00:04:22.440 --> 00:04:22.710 Jack Evans: Do you

38 00:04:23.010 --> 00:04:27.120 Jack Evans: Do you, do you get involved with product litigation.

39 00:04:30.540 --> 00:04:37.620 Juan Colberg: That I have worked with yes I have given depreciation. So someone might patents, I guess. Yes.

40 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:42.390 Juan Colberg: That'd be challenged or we're chatting do another patent, but yeah.

41 00:04:44.940 --> 00:04:49.560 Jack Evans: But, but, but nothing you're challenging patents, not necessarily

42 00:04:51.450 --> 00:04:51.840 Effort.

43 00:04:53.430 --> 00:04:53.790 Jack Evans: You know,

44 00:04:55.110 --> 00:04:58.170 Jack Evans: Call call it product performance or anything like that.

45 00:04:59.130 --> 00:04:59.730 Juan Colberg: No, we have

46 00:05:00.810 --> 00:05:03.540 Juan Colberg: No, we have the compliance division deal with all that so

47 00:05:04.380 --> 00:05:04.800 Okay.

48 00:05:06.330 --> 00:05:07.260 Jack Evans: Interesting. Okay.

49 00:05:10.080 --> 00:05:10.680 Jo Keogh: How are you

50 00:05:16.470 --> 00:05:17.610 jtpow: I'm doing fine. Thank you.

51 00:05:18.630 --> 00:05:20.190 Jo Keogh: Thanks for joining us tonight.

52 00:05:20.460 --> 00:05:21.660 jtpow: Well, thanks for inviting me.

53 00:05:22.980 --> 00:05:23.580 Jo Keogh: Hey, Eric.

54 00:05:34.830 --> 00:05:36.060 Jo Keogh: Well, we have a quorum.

55 00:05:37.170 --> 00:05:48.540 Jo Keogh: So I'd like to go ahead and get started. I know that Stephanie and Clarice are on their way. I'm not sure what the situation is for marine I am

56 00:05:49.080 --> 00:06:01.410 Jo Keogh: I know that she's still been, you know, working crazy, crazy hours at the hospital with everything that's going on. So hopefully, she'll be here and I believe Knowles going to be there as well.

57 00:06:02.970 --> 00:06:10.020 Jo Keogh: But I would like to call this meeting to order. And I get a second on that.

58 00:06:10.890 --> 00:06:12.780 Jo Keogh: Second. Thank you Andy

59 00:06:15.540 --> 00:06:26.100 Jo Keogh: Okay, so I'd like to ask to approve the minutes from our last two meetings. Anyone have any changes concerns suggestions.

60 00:06:30.210 --> 00:06:32.250 Jo Keogh: No. Okay, then.

61 00:06:32.610 --> 00:06:35.730 Jack Evans: I have, I have just one personal and that is

62 00:06:35.910 --> 00:06:36.360 OK.

63 00:06:37.710 --> 00:06:47.310 Jack Evans: You do an excellent job but you don't, I don't think you need to be as detailed as you are, if you can catch just the main points then might make it easier for you. That's all.

64 00:06:47.850 --> 00:06:48.120 Okay.

65 00:06:51.150 --> 00:07:04.950 Jo Keogh: I actually Jackie brought up at our last meeting the fact that some members might not be able to attend two meetings, a month, specifically the first meeting of the month.

66 00:07:05.490 --> 00:07:15.000 Jo Keogh: And that since the second meeting of the month is going to be a voting meeting that it's actually imperative that the Minutes be fairly detailed

67 00:07:15.390 --> 00:07:26.550 Jo Keogh: So that anyone not in attendance at the first meeting of the month will have all the information they need to make an informed decision. During the vote for the second meeting of the month, so I think

68 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:36.600 Jo Keogh: For that reason, primarily, it might be better for sue to continue. So as long as you're okay with that. I'm writing a minute so she has them.

69 00:07:41.610 --> 00:07:46.020 9BeEQU: I'm fine with continuing along how we've done

70 00:07:47.130 --> 00:07:47.940 So far,

71 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.730 Jo Keogh: Anyone else have any comments about that.

72 00:07:55.200 --> 00:07:56.040 Jo Keogh: Stephanie, we're just

73 00:07:57.540 --> 00:08:00.180 Jo Keogh: Going over the minutes from our last meeting.

74 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:08.460 Jo Keogh: Okay, then I'd like to make a motion for the minutes from our last meeting to be approved. Can I get a second on that.

75 00:08:09.150 --> 00:08:14.010 Jo Keogh: Second, Stephanie and one in tandem. A second and a third

76 00:08:15.750 --> 00:08:31.740 Jo Keogh: Yep. Okay. Um, so I wanted to put out a call for any email or Facebook Messenger notifications that any of our commission members have had from anyone outside of the Commission about business being undertaken by the Commission.

77 00:08:32.550 --> 00:08:44.310 Jo Keogh: There is an email from desk Colton that was attached to the agenda that we'll get to. When we get to that item, and I did receive an email from

78 00:08:45.870 --> 00:08:54.120 Jo Keogh: David Tennant, I believe, his name is the new town council, just before the sun damage. Sue actually brought to my attention. So thank you, Sue.

79 00:08:54.510 --> 00:09:05.430 Jo Keogh: And I'll get to that a little bit later on. Okay. Has anyone else had any communication from outside parties that they'd like to share with the rest of the Commission at this time.

80 00:09:07.050 --> 00:09:09.510 Juan Colberg: outside parties. We had the puck immigration that

81 00:09:09.510 --> 00:09:14.490 Juan Colberg: Yeah emails that we receive that Andy and I said, will cover later identity.

82 00:09:14.940 --> 00:09:15.270 Great.

83 00:09:16.470 --> 00:09:17.430 Jo Keogh: Okay, great.

84 00:09:18.540 --> 00:09:30.450 Jo Keogh: So I'm moving to the public forum. We've got Jay to learn here tonight from Farmington I'm going to get this wrong. I know. Is it human rights and relations Commission check

85 00:09:31.530 --> 00:09:46.380 18605142053: human relations commission. I know we all have kind of different names and where the, where the human relations commission. Thank you. So, you know, it's all, it's all kind of at all kind of washes out the same. In the end, but that's technically what our title is. Thank you. Thank you.

86 00:09:47.070 --> 00:09:47.670 Jo Keogh: And I'm sorry.

87 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:51.840 18605142053: Don't be sorry. So Jay

88 00:09:51.870 --> 00:10:07.230 Jo Keogh: Is sort of spearheading effort to put together a forum for all of the human rights, human relations and human rights and relations commissions in Connecticut to meet and just wanted to take a moment to update us all.

89 00:10:07.560 --> 00:10:12.090 Jo Keogh: On what's happening there. So Jay. If you want to take the floor on that.

90 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:20.730 18605142053: Yeah, I'm kind of a humble guy. So I just gotta say for the record folk. First of all, for the record, J tool in Farmington human relations.

91 00:10:21.330 --> 00:10:25.620 18605142053: Commission chair you're giving me way too much credit but I appreciate that.

92 00:10:26.550 --> 00:10:35.670 18605142053: I'm just trying to help you know the powers that be, collect information from communities that they had some questions about, you know, whether or not they're active

93 00:10:36.090 --> 00:10:47.190 18605142053: And, and, more importantly, who is kind of interested. So I've been kind of, you know, helping Joe and you guys and the West Hartford folks and

94 00:10:47.670 --> 00:11:05.250 18605142053: The hand and chair Sean Cardwell who I am. Communication not it's not quite as much as I'm in communication with you, Joe, but enough to kind of collect some information like as I said about communities that we're not sure about. So I just kind of wanted to report to you what I know.

95 00:11:06.870 --> 00:11:17.730 18605142053: I've been, you know, I've been working out some lists that Sean gave me and it also our staff liaison, who is the director of community and Senior Services for the town of Farmington

96 00:11:19.110 --> 00:11:34.980 18605142053: You know, with what they've had up until now. So what, and I've been doing this for about a month or so because I basically have no life other than being on the computer and trying to help people put things together, as Joe said so what started out with some, you know,

97 00:11:36.030 --> 00:11:46.470 18605142053: Guilford hand in West Hartford and Farmington we've been able to get commitments from South Windsor Windsor and weathers field and hopefully Middletown

98 00:11:47.700 --> 00:11:56.550 18605142053: Oh that's seven that's seven or eight communities, which is great. You know, I think that the you know the folks that are kind of coordinating this

99 00:11:56.970 --> 00:12:06.120 18605142053: would like it to be more. But, you know, so I'm still kind of determined to collect some information. And so I don't know if this is going to be pertinent anyone

100 00:12:06.660 --> 00:12:17.520 18605142053: But in I don't know who knows about other towns, but some other question mark communities. I have our Bloomfield Glastonbury Mansfield Newington Norwalk

101 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:25.560 18605142053: That's about it. So there's six or seven communities there.

102 00:12:25.890 --> 00:12:37.260 18605142053: That some of which may be dormant, but I haven't been, you know, really getting much response I get I'm communicating with people during you know Christmas New Year's time so that might explain some of it.

103 00:12:37.560 --> 00:12:48.600 18605142053: Also on these lists are some chro central offices and I'm not sure I've reached out to them. I'm not sure they're going to be included or if we're

104 00:12:48.900 --> 00:12:57.840 18605142053: I mean, not trying not trying to take anything away from the importance of th Hello, I'm not sure if they're intended to be part of this or that. So,

105 00:12:58.380 --> 00:13:12.900 18605142053: When I'm leading up to it is I believe that Sean, who has told me that something will go out a little bit more official kind of explaining what we all envision this forum to be which

106 00:13:13.380 --> 00:13:20.820 18605142053: Would I understand would be whatever chairs are interested to kind of compare notes and talk about what each of us should be doing.

107 00:13:21.090 --> 00:13:30.780 18605142053: And then maybe I made the mistake of Middletown of saying that this was going to become a coalition. We're not so sure about that. That would be great. You know, if we could have some

108 00:13:31.020 --> 00:13:40.500 18605142053: Kind of consensus of things we're doing and then form some kind of cool coalition but Sean indicated to me that that's going to depend on how this discussion goes

109 00:13:40.950 --> 00:13:50.730 18605142053: I think his plan or whoever's plan is to get something out over the next couple of weeks to have kind of an introductory zoom meeting to maybe setting the agenda.

110 00:13:51.390 --> 00:14:00.780 18605142053: And, you know, kind of discuss. You know what we all kind of envision and then sometime in the spring actually having this forum and

111 00:14:01.830 --> 00:14:09.120 18605142053: You know that's that's really what I what I wanted to report what started out as four months ago is now seven maybe eight

112 00:14:10.470 --> 00:14:16.920 18605142053: The hopes are that this will be more. But, you know, we're still not sure about some of those communities that I just mentioned.

113 00:14:17.250 --> 00:14:27.120 18605142053: I don't want to take up all my time. I know you guys have other stuff to talk about. But you know, I like go into other towns meetings, I think I said it last time, my son lives in Guilford

114 00:14:28.170 --> 00:14:34.710 18605142053: He's on the building Commission I talked you mentioned that. So, you know, I started have half of my heart and Guilford, I get is there.

115 00:14:35.160 --> 00:14:41.430 18605142053: So you can probably count. It doesn't mean being being at most your meetings just out of interest of what other communities are doing

116 00:14:41.970 --> 00:14:50.370 18605142053: And that's about it. I appreciate the opportunity to talk to you today and I'm actually going to get off of my phone. I'm here twice that I'm here on my phone.

117 00:14:50.730 --> 00:14:59.940 18605142053: And you see my name, which is actually James, so I'm gonna hang up my phone. I'm going to hang with you guys for a while and just can't listen to what you're talking about. So thanks again and have a good night.

118 00:15:00.390 --> 00:15:01.590 Jo Keogh: Thank you so much. Day.

119 00:15:01.590 --> 00:15:03.150 Jo Keogh: I just want to say that you

120 00:15:03.300 --> 00:15:10.590 Jo Keogh: You know and I know you can answer now because you just hung up the phone, but what to say that, you know, doubling the number of

121 00:15:11.550 --> 00:15:21.780 Jo Keogh: Conditions that are interested in working together in a month, especially over the holidays is fairly outstanding work. So thank you so much for doing the legwork on this and

122 00:15:22.470 --> 00:15:31.230 Jo Keogh: We will definitely look forward to hearing from Sean and seeing a lay of the land is so. Thank you, Jay. You're always welcome.

123 00:15:32.400 --> 00:15:43.950 Jo Keogh: Farmington meeting is next Monday. I'll have the zoom information for that I'm planning to attend. If anyone else would like to attend, just let me know. And I'd be happy to share this with you all.

124 00:15:46.290 --> 00:16:06.630 Jo Keogh: Okay, I know, Tracy and Jim. You're here for specific conversation. Is there anything that you wanted to throw it in the public forum, before we get to that, no. Okay. All right, well then let's move to this specific conversation about the Henry Whitfield documents in town hall.

125 00:16:08.190 --> 00:16:12.510 Jo Keogh: I sent the official letter that Matt who you sent me

126 00:16:13.740 --> 00:16:35.970 Jo Keogh: About the vote that was taken at the last selected meeting where they approved our request to craft the documents educational documents to accompany the Whitfield documents that are currently hanging in town hall. Um, I can't remember who asked me, I think it was Barry

127 00:16:37.140 --> 00:16:39.150 Jo Keogh: Who I did invite to tonight's meeting.

128 00:16:40.920 --> 00:16:43.800 Jo Keogh: And I think he couldn't be here. He asked if

129 00:16:45.270 --> 00:16:54.840 Jo Keogh: I was planning to bring up the issue of moving the documents at the last meeting, you know, not out of town hall, but to a separate location and town hall and

130 00:16:55.470 --> 00:17:06.300 Jo Keogh: I told him that that would actually be part of our proposal to the Board of selectmen after everything's crafted you know that point we can you know submit

131 00:17:06.990 --> 00:17:13.500 Jo Keogh: Location that we think might be a better location within town hall. We can submit a couple of different design ideas.

132 00:17:14.100 --> 00:17:30.210 Jo Keogh: We can talk about how the actual print the printing and framing is going to be paid for all of that. But first we need to craft the educational documents. And so, Eric, you will be heading the subcommittee.

133 00:17:31.350 --> 00:17:42.960 Jo Keogh: On this project. And so I will hand it over to you. Do you have any questions, thoughts on how you'd like to get this process started.

134 00:17:50.010 --> 00:17:50.520 Eric: I have

135 00:17:51.660 --> 00:17:53.850 Eric: A bunch of research on the

136 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:57.540 Eric: Context of the other timeline there and

137 00:17:59.370 --> 00:18:01.590 Eric: I think that maybe we can

138 00:18:03.330 --> 00:18:06.600 Eric: Put in some some timelines that would that would be helpful.

139 00:18:09.900 --> 00:18:21.330 Eric: I do think that maybe we should move it away from its current location. So I agree with Barry and and so I would like I had to as a recommendation and the current

140 00:18:21.990 --> 00:18:32.940 Eric: Stuff that's up there you see some of it, it's like kind of like old and not really very easily readable. So we might want to actually redo the whole presentation there but

141 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:34.590 Eric: Either way,

142 00:18:35.940 --> 00:18:39.840 Eric: I'm open to any idea that anybody has one thing for

143 00:18:43.380 --> 00:19:04.770 Jo Keogh: Jim, it's my understanding that your knowledge base please correct me if I'm wrong on this, but that your knowledge base is specifically pertaining to the relationship between the colonists and Native Americans that. Am I right there.

144 00:19:05.700 --> 00:19:20.220 jtpow: Yeah, based on the research I did over the last couple of years. Yes, indeed. And I got quite a bit. I got into it and a lot of detail. So, and it's a quantic complex story that's certainly true. And I think

145 00:19:21.510 --> 00:19:34.890 jtpow: There's a lot of rooms still for interpretation, obviously, because you know as time changes our view of history changes. And so I'm interested in continuing in regard to this.

146 00:19:36.420 --> 00:19:44.400 jtpow: You know, this whole issue, only because I would like to see a fair and realistic.

147 00:19:46.650 --> 00:19:53.460 jtpow: Depiction and description of exactly what what happened to create those documents.

148 00:19:54.690 --> 00:20:02.070 jtpow: With also I think with something that will be really, really important would be the story about what happened after those documents.

149 00:20:02.430 --> 00:20:13.740 jtpow: Which is really a very, very powerful and a sad, sad story. In the end, not necessarily for the people of McClintock exclusively but for the Quinnipiac in general.

150 00:20:14.970 --> 00:20:26.400 jtpow: So that's really where my interest lies. I'd like to make sure that anybody who comes in, or I'd like to contribute in a way that anybody who comes into look at these documents will really be able to understand

151 00:20:26.760 --> 00:20:44.580 jtpow: Not only the historical context, but the full story in terms of in terms of what happened before those documents were were were created, why they were created and then more importantly, in the end, why, what happened afterwards. I think that that's that's one of why I want to be involved.

152 00:20:46.080 --> 00:20:54.270 Jo Keogh: You know, one, one thing that I was thinking about since we have sort of limited space for what is going to hang from the wall.

153 00:20:55.590 --> 00:21:10.650 Jo Keogh: About whether it might make sense to also put together a handout that could both be you know also maybe on the wall that people could take that would give sort of more thorough explanation.

154 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:22.980 Jo Keogh: Of events and something that then might also. We might also be able to give to you know the library would feel house. Is that right, Tracy Yeah.

155 00:21:23.040 --> 00:21:34.800 Tracy Tomaselli: Yes, I think that's a great idea, Jim. I love all of your comments. I also can add it any of the stuff that we want to post on the visit Guilford CT calm website, which is

156 00:21:35.580 --> 00:21:51.810 Tracy Tomaselli: posted by the Gilbert Preservation Alliance, I helped manage that. So we would definitely want to put some history, anything that's compiled there too, which is free to get out, you know, as part of our website. We can also promote that information as well, they're

157 00:21:52.770 --> 00:21:56.700 Juan Colberg: Great job, if I can make it come maybe also stepping back a little bit.

158 00:21:57.780 --> 00:22:01.050 Juan Colberg: One of the things that you know every cat to probably

159 00:22:02.190 --> 00:22:09.120 Juan Colberg: Start with is the team, right, that will be working so so we can get feedback, you know, and I think as we

160 00:22:10.260 --> 00:22:13.830 Juan Colberg: Discuss it in the previous meeting, you know, have

161 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:27.150 Juan Colberg: You know, Gene Tracy, you know, Eric, certainly, but also some of the historian right to have a chance to have the dialogue with of course having making sure that

162 00:22:27.690 --> 00:22:39.660 Juan Colberg: It's understood what is the scope. Right. What is the final product just to to get the opportunity to have that open discussion before we actually put the document and also I think one of the

163 00:22:41.220 --> 00:22:50.040 Juan Colberg: Recommendations that will come. Prior to executing the plan from these team will be kind, what kind of budget, they would need because you're gonna have to print out

164 00:22:50.550 --> 00:23:09.840 Juan Colberg: So kind of formalize the proposal, which is what we told the the board selectmen that will happen, right. So, you know, we have a more elaborate proposal, who's going to be part of the team, how we're going to do it like say timelines and potential budgets needed to execute the plan.

165 00:23:12.570 --> 00:23:28.710 Jo Keogh: So Jim Tracy. I'm, I'm assuming that I think you said before that you'd like to be part of the committee, working on that right. I know. Joel Freelander also is interested in very interested as well.

166 00:23:30.870 --> 00:23:42.750 Jo Keogh: I'd like to be involved in a small way, not with historical part but I'm interested on the design end of things I've done some of that work before so I know how to get quotes and do all that.

167 00:23:44.730 --> 00:23:49.710 Jo Keogh: Is there anyone else on commission. Who wants to be involved with this particular project.

168 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:52.380 Juan Colberg: Jack also has for us today. Yeah.

169 00:23:54.300 --> 00:23:56.640 Jo Keogh: Anyone else Stephanie.

170 00:23:59.340 --> 00:24:00.030 Jo Keogh: So,

171 00:24:01.140 --> 00:24:04.050 Jo Keogh: Eric, how would you like to structure this

172 00:24:05.100 --> 00:24:09.390 Jo Keogh: If we're going to have a subcommittee meetings on this, then

173 00:24:10.830 --> 00:24:15.750 Jo Keogh: What are you thinking in terms of how often that committee meets and when

174 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.900 Eric: I haven't really thought of that. Um, what would you recommend

175 00:24:24.090 --> 00:24:28.980 Jo Keogh: Well, what do we think in terms of what's reasonable and workable for everyone involved.

176 00:24:29.670 --> 00:24:35.910 Juan Colberg: I think you have to decide for when you want the final product, then go backwards and CO chair for you had to put

177 00:24:36.390 --> 00:24:43.740 Juan Colberg: And that will give you an idea how aggressive. You had to be with the maintenance or not. So it's like January next year, you have, you know, softballs. You can

178 00:24:44.220 --> 00:24:56.370 Juan Colberg: Probably you know have it. I don't know monthly meeting with some ad hoc meeting just to discuss research and and so if you want to do it earlier than you probably going to have, you know, a couple of other you know

179 00:24:57.390 --> 00:25:02.130 Juan Colberg: Living more of the ad hoc meetings right to get it ready. So it's all up to the team. I think

180 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:12.780 Juan Colberg: So bringing the team together and come back with a proposal and why you think when you want to have to find a product that will give you a better idea. How frequently, you're going to have to meet, I guess.

181 00:25:15.210 --> 00:25:31.590 Tracy Tomaselli: I have a question about who is going to find the final displays and maybe I think we need to think about how large, they're going to be because then that will limit or allow will know how much room is available for these roundups

182 00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:32.790 Tracy Tomaselli: By on both

183 00:25:32.850 --> 00:25:36.270 Tracy Tomaselli: Perspectives. So do you have funding for this.

184 00:25:36.360 --> 00:25:46.860 Jo Keogh: We do not have any budget of our own to speak up. So we have two options for this one would be to apply for a grant from to guilt. The foundation

185 00:25:47.610 --> 00:25:57.240 Jo Keogh: The other would be to do some community fundraising and I think my gut on this one is for this particular project to try

186 00:25:57.660 --> 00:26:15.480 Jo Keogh: Going to community fundraising groups first. And the reason I think that is because I think that this is a project that will be have enough interest to the community that people would be interested in sponsoring yet but I'm very open to other people's thoughts on that.

187 00:26:20.370 --> 00:26:29.880 Jack Evans: As a thought. Joe, maybe the Committee on have come up with the as, as I was saying, Come up with the budget and the timeframe.

188 00:26:30.660 --> 00:26:46.590 Jack Evans: And then the committee could also come up with. I would say sources of funding this thing funding whatever needs to be done because once the scope is determined then then the final budget is going to be easier to define

189 00:26:47.100 --> 00:26:56.850 Jo Keogh: Well yeah, I absolutely agree with that, just in answering you know Tracy's question. Just want to you know make clear that we don't have a budget of around to work with at this point.

190 00:26:58.770 --> 00:27:06.840 Jo Keogh: Yeah. And the other reason that I'm a little bit reluctant to apply to Guilford foundation for this project is because we have

191 00:27:07.530 --> 00:27:22.980 Jo Keogh: Another couple of projects that I think we will be applying for grant funding for probably this year. So they've very generously offered to help us, but I don't want to take advantage of that either because they're funding other important things in the town as well.

192 00:27:24.540 --> 00:27:25.440 Juan Colberg: I used to wonder if

193 00:27:26.460 --> 00:27:39.930 Juan Colberg: I know dances thought on the phone anymore, but it's it's listening if there will be another other commissions in Connecticut working on similar projects that we could reach out to learn or have done something similar, right.

194 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:56.340 Jack Evans: Yeah, it could be the answer is yes. And we have we have one in town Whitfield house and all that. That's why I think as this project goes forward we'll be able to tap on to their expertise and they'll guide us. And there's also some state guidelines to

195 00:27:56.910 --> 00:27:59.760 Jo Keogh: I think one was actually referring to other human rights.

196 00:27:59.760 --> 00:28:00.510 Juan Colberg: Commission. Right, right.

197 00:28:01.800 --> 00:28:05.520 Juan Colberg: Other Human Rights Commission. Correct. Yeah, well, human relations.

198 00:28:06.600 --> 00:28:06.930 Yeah.

199 00:28:09.270 --> 00:28:24.000 Jo Keogh: Okay, so for the people who are going to be involved in this and Eric for you specifically what what is the timeline and ideal timeline for us and then manageable, doable timeline.

200 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:43.110 Juan Colberg: And Eddie, just to be clear, I didn't volunteer, because I think that the larger the team or difficult will be to schedule meeting. So I think you have great great experts are already in the team. So, but I'm also very interested to stay in the loop and everything happening so anyway.

201 00:28:44.370 --> 00:28:51.690 Andy Gottlieb: Yeah, I mean, I'm very interested do and I'm looking forward to hearing what others have a subcommittee does and seeing, seeing what you offer do this.

202 00:28:53.520 --> 00:28:53.850 Yeah.

203 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:06.450 jtpow: I've been involved. Now, a couple of years with because research person for a project and Essex, Connecticut.

204 00:29:07.590 --> 00:29:12.960 jtpow: That deals with the evolution of the Community along the falls river and

205 00:29:15.150 --> 00:29:20.610 jtpow: My experience in terms of the meetings is that, you know, obviously I'm not sure if you're you're

206 00:29:21.270 --> 00:29:34.620 jtpow: We're assuming that there'll be in person meetings, but the the ability to get a lot done quickly, since the zoom has come along and that context is not really we haven't been super productive.

207 00:29:35.610 --> 00:29:47.520 jtpow: So I would just in order to make sure this works well. I would not want to hurry a schedule. I certainly think maybe within a year, certainly is is doable.

208 00:29:49.020 --> 00:30:01.470 jtpow: A lot of it depends on how things go in terms of the health of the community and the individuals involved in in on the committee over the next, I would say five four to five to six months.

209 00:30:02.670 --> 00:30:11.010 jtpow: That's just, that's just my observation. I think this is too important to story to to hurry and and and run through

210 00:30:11.820 --> 00:30:23.250 jtpow: You know the you're all discussing the logistics in terms of how this is going to be displayed. And yeah, I mean, that's a big issue right there in itself. That has to be worked out. So I would recommend

211 00:30:24.330 --> 00:30:35.460 jtpow: You know, a longer term project as didn't make sure it's done well and dun dun dun right as opposed to hurry and something just to sort of satisfy

212 00:30:36.780 --> 00:30:39.240 jtpow: The need to get something out there.

213 00:30:40.590 --> 00:30:41.040 So,

214 00:30:42.180 --> 00:31:06.180 Tracy Tomaselli: Thanks. CASEY I agree. I think a six month to 12 month time period. Seems like a realistic time period. I think that Eric might have the hardest job in getting the Native American perspective information. I know I personally can't find much about that.

215 00:31:10.050 --> 00:31:10.440 Jo Keogh: Know,

216 00:31:13.020 --> 00:31:14.190 Eric: That that perspective. Yeah.

217 00:31:15.390 --> 00:31:22.920 Eric: So there's not a whole lot out there, but I do have a lot of books about, you know, that were written by people, you know,

218 00:31:23.730 --> 00:31:39.360 Eric: Close to that timeline and stuff like that. So there's a lot of information about out there about on what went down in that time. So craft a perspective. Just, just kind of takes, you know, understanding all of what happened.

219 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:58.170 Jo Keogh: And what happened. I'm sorry, one second. No, and then I'll yeah I want to hear what you have to say the initiatives in Massachusetts might be a good place to work to I can send you their information, Eric. Sorry. No, go ahead.

220 00:31:59.220 --> 00:32:09.990 noelpetra: I was just gonna say my experience on longer term projects like this, it's easy to it's easy to lose track of deliverables. So I would recommend like every quarter or every

221 00:32:10.500 --> 00:32:27.810 noelpetra: Couple of whatever period, we want to give it was a check in with a full report of progress and next steps so that you know there is a constant sense of urgency. Otherwise, it just becomes too open ended and you know it's driven strictly by interest in not by you know need to deliver

222 00:32:29.550 --> 00:32:30.390 Jo Keogh: Good advice.

223 00:32:32.070 --> 00:32:33.000 Jo Keogh: Okay, so

224 00:32:34.950 --> 00:32:58.800 Jo Keogh: Jimmy said you thought maybe about a year, Tracy, about six months to a year. Do we want to possibly aim for December of 2021 and if things move more quickly. That's fine. And if we need an extension, that's fine too but just as a as a deep potential date. Okay.

225 00:33:01.980 --> 00:33:06.210 Jo Keogh: And so with that being said, how often

226 00:33:08.370 --> 00:33:10.980 Jo Keogh: Should supplementing me Tracy

227 00:33:11.610 --> 00:33:19.380 Tracy Tomaselli: I would say once month. And if you can share the emails with everyone that's on the subcommittee working

228 00:33:20.670 --> 00:33:24.030 Jo Keogh: Does that sound good for everyone involved.

229 00:33:25.080 --> 00:33:25.980 Jo Keogh: Stephanie jack

230 00:33:27.330 --> 00:33:28.260 Jo Keogh: Yeah. OK.

231 00:33:29.280 --> 00:33:37.230 Jo Keogh: OK, I will absolutely do that. And then maybe it would make sense for just the members of the subcommittee to figure out scheduling.

232 00:33:38.730 --> 00:33:41.940 Jo Keogh: You know, from there, rather than trying to do it tonight.

233 00:33:42.930 --> 00:33:45.270 Juan Colberg: But remember, you're gonna have three meetings, a month. Right.

234 00:33:46.350 --> 00:33:48.240 Juan Colberg: The Commission's at one of the city. So

235 00:33:48.630 --> 00:33:49.050 Jo Keogh: I only

236 00:33:50.010 --> 00:33:52.260 Jo Keogh: Want to be involved with the design stuff so

237 00:33:52.350 --> 00:33:54.540 Jo Keogh: All that history that's all you guys

238 00:33:56.610 --> 00:34:01.650 Stephanie (she/her): Won it'll be for if anybody else volunteers for the second for the culture fast.

239 00:34:08.910 --> 00:34:10.020 Jo Keogh: Okay, great.

240 00:34:12.930 --> 00:34:18.960 Jo Keogh: Does anyone else have anything that they want to comment on, on this particular issue. Tracy

241 00:34:19.740 --> 00:34:26.730 Tracy Tomaselli: Mentioned Something in general that I found when I was researching for someone else recently that I had not

242 00:34:28.140 --> 00:34:40.080 Tracy Tomaselli: Heard about and just briefly that there was another land purchase and I can't quite remember exactly where but it struck me as so particular of interest that because

243 00:34:40.560 --> 00:34:59.340 Tracy Tomaselli: The purchase price if you want to call it that was in consideration for 12 coats 12 hose 12 patches 12 classes 12 nights to kettles and for fathoms of white welcome and I just thought that the the description or the the particular items.

244 00:35:00.600 --> 00:35:10.680 Tracy Tomaselli: So closely and even some of the quantities that it just struck me, so I'm going to be sharing that with a subcommittee in further detail, but I just thought I'd throw that out there tonight.

245 00:35:11.040 --> 00:35:12.600 Eric: No more numbers are man.

246 00:35:13.860 --> 00:35:14.250 Tracy Tomaselli: Yeah.

247 00:35:15.720 --> 00:35:17.040 Interesting, thank you.

248 00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:28.140 Jo Keogh: I think one thing that I'd like to say on this is that just to say again that part of the reason I think maybe the primary reason

249 00:35:28.710 --> 00:35:42.660 Jo Keogh: That the Human Rights Commission got involved with us apart from the fact that it was brought to us by a member of the community is that we really feel a responsibility to make sure that

250 00:35:42.810 --> 00:35:46.590 Jo Keogh: Voices have been historically disenfranchised are hurt.

251 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:55.860 Jo Keogh: And that people who have been historically disenfranchised, have a seat at the table. So I just wanted to be.

252 00:35:57.240 --> 00:36:12.900 Jo Keogh: Very clear that I'm really grateful to have the help of people who've studied this for a long time, Tracy gem, especially the two of you, Joel, and that Eric

253 00:36:14.790 --> 00:36:15.660 Jo Keogh: Is the one running

254 00:36:16.860 --> 00:36:20.640 Jo Keogh: And that I it's really important to me that his perspective.

255 00:36:22.050 --> 00:36:26.070 Jo Keogh: Is really seen in all of the some of the Native American perspective to see

256 00:36:27.090 --> 00:36:28.590 Jo Keogh: So I just want to put that out there.

257 00:36:30.030 --> 00:36:34.500 Juan Colberg: If I have my ad right i'll do you guys brought this to my

258 00:36:35.550 --> 00:36:42.750 Juan Colberg: Company, the Commission attention. I know put out of the thought on this, I see the document show it. And when you read it.

259 00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:54.030 Juan Colberg: And and and you tried to come temporize how you do deals and contracts. Now I didn't see a lot of the details of how one person could you know basically decided for the whole

260 00:36:54.600 --> 00:37:06.690 Juan Colberg: You know, even the king had the power. Right. And so again, if anything, at least put attention on what that current document his tail, how we get there.

261 00:37:07.230 --> 00:37:13.590 Juan Colberg: And put it right perspective. So the community. Understand, right, because I was not aware until I start reading more and more so.

262 00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:32.220 Juan Colberg: If anything that's that's to be one of the main objective make people understand how it really happened. And, you know, and provide some perspective on why we think kind of far fetched from my opinion. But anyways, I'm gonna jump to conclusions. So anyway,

263 00:37:33.720 --> 00:37:49.710 Jo Keogh: No, I think that's it. I absolutely agree. One, and I think this is such an exciting opportunity for us to fulfill our primary initiative, which is to be an educational body. So Tracy, Jen. Thank you so much for agreeing to be a part of us.

264 00:37:50.940 --> 00:38:01.050 Jo Keogh: Everyone involved with the Subcommittee on us. Thank you excited to see what everyone, Eric, thank you for agreeing to be in the hot seat on this one.

265 00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:06.960 jtpow: So you'll be you will be in contact with us right

266 00:38:07.710 --> 00:38:09.990 Eric: Yeah, I was looking for your contact information, actually.

267 00:38:09.990 --> 00:38:17.400 Jo Keogh: Myself. Okay, I've got some Tracy and Jim and Joel's email addresses and various will send them all to you.

268 00:38:17.490 --> 00:38:17.880 Eric: Okay.

269 00:38:18.060 --> 00:38:19.590 jtpow: Good, good, good, good.

270 00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:29.340 jtpow: And I would also like to offer and what we do have it. The Dudley Farm Museum, the Quinnipiac Don land museum is as possible resource.

271 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.770 jtpow: Of information. There is a lot Air Jordan Brainerd from

272 00:38:36.780 --> 00:38:47.070 jtpow: He is in a long term care facility, and I don't think he's coming out, who was the individual who sort of put the whole thing together over the last 40 years and

273 00:38:47.970 --> 00:38:56.100 jtpow: Some of the information is historically accurate. Some of it's a little questionable, but we have a tremendous amount of information that we could probably utilize

274 00:38:57.060 --> 00:39:04.020 jtpow: To help get this whole thing going. So I'd like to offer that to the as a place

275 00:39:04.530 --> 00:39:21.240 jtpow: That were maybe we can even start. Unfortunately, it's not in a heated building right now so we may have to pick a day when, you know, if we want to do a field trip where where everyone can kind of get a look at what is there. So,

276 00:39:21.450 --> 00:39:23.700 Eric: I just thought about there as well.

277 00:39:24.120 --> 00:39:28.110 Eric: Like was a good friend of my mother's and he taught me beekeeping so

278 00:39:29.700 --> 00:39:33.240 jtpow: Check that place out good. Okay, great. Okay.

279 00:39:33.630 --> 00:39:35.430 Jo Keogh: Yeah, I love a field trip thank you john

280 00:39:38.250 --> 00:39:39.660 jtpow: Mask mask required

281 00:39:41.850 --> 00:39:45.750 jtpow: Okay. Well, thank you very much. I'll leave unless you want me here for any more anything else.

282 00:39:46.470 --> 00:39:47.460 Jo Keogh: No, you're released

283 00:39:48.750 --> 00:39:49.230 jtpow: Okay.

284 00:39:50.370 --> 00:39:52.260 jtpow: pleasure working with you folks. Thank you.

285 00:39:52.650 --> 00:39:54.540 Jo Keogh: Well, thank you, Tracy

286 00:39:54.540 --> 00:39:55.530 Tracy Tomaselli: With me. Thank you.

287 00:39:56.970 --> 00:39:57.750 Jo Keogh: Have a great night.

288 00:40:00.030 --> 00:40:01.080 Jo Keogh: Okay, great.

289 00:40:02.640 --> 00:40:12.150 Jo Keogh: Alright, moving on to our next agenda item Parks and Recreation holiday calendar want and Andy

290 00:40:13.230 --> 00:40:14.730 Juan Colberg: How do you got all the email so

291 00:40:15.240 --> 00:40:16.290 Juan Colberg: Yes, it does.

292 00:40:16.980 --> 00:40:19.440 Andy Gottlieb: Yes. So we did get

293 00:40:21.330 --> 00:40:34.170 Andy Gottlieb: One and I drafted an email back to Rick Maynard about kind of just following up on some of the questions we were still had after earlier correspondence with him so

294 00:40:36.630 --> 00:40:38.580 Andy Gottlieb: We said we asked, Rick.

295 00:40:41.100 --> 00:40:50.130 Andy Gottlieb: That about the reaction from the youth sports groups that he'd mentioned he'd spoken to. And if we can be put in touch with

296 00:40:50.760 --> 00:41:08.100 Andy Gottlieb: The sports leagues themselves and they also extended an invitation to Rick as, as well as Rosasco who is the Chair of the Parks and Recreation commission to attend our next one. Our next but our, our January 19 meeting that was one, they can make

297 00:41:09.990 --> 00:41:16.080 Andy Gottlieb: So we could establish a good working relationship with them they they they accepted that which I'm very pleased with

298 00:41:18.150 --> 00:41:21.570 Andy Gottlieb: They have Rick also clarified that

299 00:41:22.620 --> 00:41:27.000 Andy Gottlieb: Fields parks and facilities under the jurisdiction of the Parks and Recreation Commission.

300 00:41:28.560 --> 00:41:30.900 Andy Gottlieb: Are not are not closed for any holidays.

301 00:41:32.520 --> 00:41:40.410 Andy Gottlieb: And that he spoke with the President of each youth sports youth sport league that uses the fields and

302 00:41:41.130 --> 00:41:54.030 Andy Gottlieb: That some have played or have had practices on holidays. They all stated that if a player cannot play on a holiday, they would honor the players beliefs and values. No one would be pressured to be at the game that doesn't exactly address their concerns, but

303 00:41:54.030 --> 00:41:54.270 Yeah.

304 00:41:55.470 --> 00:42:03.330 Andy Gottlieb: But he said he will get an updated list of contacts for from the the sports leagues for us haven't gotten those yet, but I'll certainly

305 00:42:04.620 --> 00:42:06.810 Andy Gottlieb: Let let people know when we receive that

306 00:42:08.250 --> 00:42:24.270 Andy Gottlieb: Yeah. So I mean, though the good, the good news though is that will have Rick and rose at our next Commission meeting where maybe we can learn a bit more about Parks and Rec and convey our concerns, perhaps more effectively and get some more information out of them.

307 00:42:28.350 --> 00:42:28.800 Well done.

308 00:42:30.630 --> 00:42:31.950 Andy Gottlieb: Thanks. Yeah.

309 00:42:32.250 --> 00:42:45.780 Jo Keogh: I'm happy to be here at our next meeting. So that will probably take up a fair chunk. I would say at least half an hour minimum of our next meeting. So be sure to make time for that.

310 00:42:47.160 --> 00:42:47.610 Jo Keogh: That's great.

311 00:42:50.910 --> 00:42:51.930 Jo Keogh: Anything else about them.

312 00:42:57.300 --> 00:42:58.530 Andy Gottlieb: One has anything else I think

313 00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:05.220 Juan Colberg: No, I think that's a good to least get them to attend the meeting to have a discussion.

314 00:43:06.930 --> 00:43:07.740 Juan Colberg: You know, probably will.

315 00:43:09.750 --> 00:43:19.770 Juan Colberg: I know that still stating that there's there's no closure or feature closure, I guess, then the holiday. But again, I had kids, I go through youth sports and

316 00:43:20.700 --> 00:43:37.050 Juan Colberg: I remember things like facilities will not be open for Christmas. Maybe that was the interpretation of the President of the league and I take it as part of the package recreation, but by G gnashing at the schools were not opening, you know, in certain days so

317 00:43:38.610 --> 00:43:47.550 Juan Colberg: Is this because the school property. I don't know. Right, so it was good to have that discussion. Right. So what really is.

318 00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:50.880 Juan Colberg: You know, done.

319 00:43:52.170 --> 00:43:54.060 Juan Colberg: For some holiday versus others.

320 00:43:55.770 --> 00:43:56.550 Jo Keogh: And it's great.

321 00:44:00.090 --> 00:44:01.230 Jo Keogh: Okay, great. Well,

322 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.810 Jo Keogh: We look forward to that discussion in two weeks.

323 00:44:06.630 --> 00:44:10.200 Jo Keogh: So, anyone else have any questions, comments about any of that.

324 00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:24.720 Jo Keogh: No. Okay. Actually want to circle back for a moment to the Whitfield documents discussion because I realized that I forgot to talk about email from Dennis Colton

325 00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:30.300 Jo Keogh: Speech on that subject up and Eric, do you

326 00:44:32.310 --> 00:44:35.220 Jo Keogh: Want to be in contact with the

327 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:41.730 Jo Keogh: Bride student or recently recently graduated student

328 00:44:43.200 --> 00:44:46.980 Jo Keogh: On this as well, to ask the team. Do you want me to get

329 00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:50.910 Eric: I looked him up. He looks like he has a website there and

330 00:44:51.180 --> 00:44:53.460 Eric: A bunch of good information. So, I'm sure.

331 00:44:55.020 --> 00:45:00.330 Jo Keogh: Okay. Um, if I so do you have his email address. I can't remember if it was printed on

332 00:45:01.020 --> 00:45:02.220 Eric: I'm not sure if I have it or not.

333 00:45:04.350 --> 00:45:09.000 Jo Keogh: I'll make sure to get that to you. If you want to

334 00:45:10.050 --> 00:45:12.720 Jo Keogh: Reach out to him and asked him if he wants to be involved.

335 00:45:14.220 --> 00:45:14.790 Eric: Okay, great.

336 00:45:15.570 --> 00:45:16.200 Jo Keogh: Sorry about that.

337 00:45:17.850 --> 00:45:20.160 Jo Keogh: Too much holiday cheese. Okay.

338 00:45:21.870 --> 00:45:36.870 Jo Keogh: So our next item is a quick update on the review status, the legal review status of our governance manual. And so as I said earlier in the meeting just heard back this afternoon from Peter Barrett

339 00:45:37.560 --> 00:45:45.900 Jo Keogh: Town Council. His name is not David Tennant, which is what I said, which shows that I've been watching a lot of Dr lately. Yes, I see you laughing at me, clearly it's

340 00:45:46.470 --> 00:45:59.100 Jo Keogh: So Peter Barrett has started the review process for the governance manual and is in that process. Now, interestingly, he's pushing back a bit against the idea of having co chairs.

341 00:45:59.640 --> 00:46:06.390 Jo Keogh: And I think a big reason for that is that it's not what's traditionally done in Guilford

342 00:46:07.140 --> 00:46:16.230 Jo Keogh: admissions committees, your time to have a chair and vice chair and he outlined the reasons why that tends to work better for commissions.

343 00:46:16.620 --> 00:46:29.130 Jo Keogh: And that it's part of Robert's Rules of Order, which we decided as a Commission early on we would not be using as our sort of guiding principles for this Commission so

344 00:46:30.330 --> 00:46:49.860 Jo Keogh: If it's alright, with everyone. I'll write something back one I'll share it with you before I send it back, but I just, I think, you know, for all the reasons that we've discussed, having co chairs for this particular word is a much better idea. So I'd like to push back on that a little bit.

345 00:46:51.420 --> 00:46:55.440 Jo Keogh: So for, for now, mon. I'm still considering your chair.

346 00:46:56.580 --> 00:47:06.450 Jo Keogh: Apple one path and less until and unless it becomes absolutely clear that we're not able to, but I think, you know, if it came down to meeting to ask the Board of selectmen

347 00:47:07.680 --> 00:47:26.850 Jo Keogh: About that, that they would probably give approval to to approach our system. And in fact, I introduced one as Co chair at the last board of selectmen meeting on that in an eyelash. So we'll see if I can get town council to promote work with you on this particular subject.

348 00:47:29.490 --> 00:47:34.200 Jo Keogh: Okay, um. Any questions about that, comments, concerns.

349 00:47:35.340 --> 00:47:36.360 A question.

350 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:39.750 Jack Evans: If he's pushing back for

351 00:47:41.250 --> 00:47:45.720 Jack Evans: All the things you mentioned there. There are a number of

352 00:47:47.010 --> 00:47:59.910 Jack Evans: Commissions committees groups that differ. A lot of the operation to the vice chair and in many in some basically it's a division of duties.

353 00:48:00.450 --> 00:48:12.750 Jack Evans: Between the chair and the vice chair and essentially they are co chair, but not in title so that may be another option if you if you get real pushback from the town for some other reason.

354 00:48:14.310 --> 00:48:26.400 Jo Keogh: Yeah, I, I can see that as an option. I appreciate the idea. I think before taking that option. I'd actually wanted to take this in front of the board of selectmen know i think that

355 00:48:27.690 --> 00:48:43.680 Jo Keogh: You know, one of the reasons that we originally started talking about having to coach their system was to have a division of power to get away from sort of the standard patriarchal system of having one person in power.

356 00:48:45.120 --> 00:48:47.310 Jo Keogh: And I think that's important. So

357 00:48:48.420 --> 00:49:02.580 Jo Keogh: I understand what you're saying jack and I appreciate that. But I think I want to want to explore other avenues, especially since we also already loaded as a body to have co chairs and voted one is one of them.

358 00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:09.180 Jo Keogh: And want to think work on that a little bit more first but I appreciate the suggestion.

359 00:49:10.770 --> 00:49:11.640 Jo Keogh: Anyone else

360 00:49:14.190 --> 00:49:29.610 Jo Keogh: No. Okay. Um, one. Do you want to talk about the next item which is your idea of why it might be a good idea to start having at least two people working on different projects and issues.

361 00:49:31.140 --> 00:49:41.550 Juan Colberg: Me. This is schema when working with Andy on the park and recreation each you certainly having two people helping follow up, you know, have a discussion.

362 00:49:42.810 --> 00:49:49.110 Juan Colberg: You know, help us to keep the momentum right and made sure that we could push in and I think I mentioned it to

363 00:49:49.530 --> 00:50:00.000 Juan Colberg: To to Joe the good cop and bad cop, you know, me being the back cover the time maybe and said they open up to, they run to and they say, Andy Yeah. What do you want, you know, kind of

364 00:50:00.450 --> 00:50:18.720 Juan Colberg: But, but seriously, I think that having more than one person dealing with a single issue how I again to maintain the momentum and the timeless. So my suggestion would be that if, if the Commission agree that for every item that we have, you know, agreed to take on

365 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:40.680 Juan Colberg: You know, to have at least two of the Commission members working on, and secondly will be in some cases more like the the the sub team that Eric will be leading or Stephanie and their cultural day. So, but, but, at minimum have to that help to move along issues, you know, and

366 00:50:41.940 --> 00:50:42.990 Juan Colberg: You know, share that

367 00:50:44.070 --> 00:50:48.600 Juan Colberg: The work on making sure things get on you know better, I guess.

368 00:50:49.650 --> 00:51:01.920 Juan Colberg: That, that, that's basically my suggestion right don't don't assign things to only one person just. We have to help drive every item that we pick up at least two

369 00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:11.220 Jo Keogh: Yeah, I think it's a good suggestion. We can't take a vote on the suggestion tonight because our voting meetings are second Tuesday of the month, but

370 00:51:13.260 --> 00:51:16.920 Jo Keogh: How does everyone else feel about that just in principle.

371 00:51:19.110 --> 00:51:34.530 Andy Gottlieb: I mean, yeah, I think it's worked well with with lawn and the Parks and Rec project. So I think I'd agree with his conclusions itself. What have a partner in on this, and someone to keep things focused sort of play, Bad Cop good cop case dictates

372 00:51:36.390 --> 00:51:36.900 Jo Keogh: Okay.

373 00:51:38.070 --> 00:51:45.270 Jo Keogh: I think it's a great idea to. And also, you know, wanting to said, just to help keep things on track as well.

374 00:51:46.350 --> 00:51:49.470 Jo Keogh: Make sure that things are moving along with a decent club.

375 00:51:52.230 --> 00:51:53.940 Jo Keogh: No Eric worries.

376 00:51:55.260 --> 00:51:56.040 Jo Keogh: Yeah name. Yay.

377 00:51:56.460 --> 00:51:57.420 Jo Keogh: Yeah, not

378 00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:04.860 Eric: Have at least two people to keep things driving and have somebody, you know, double check everything and have another extra set of eyes.

379 00:52:08.100 --> 00:52:21.870 Jo Keogh: Right. So right now, we've got three projects other events are apart from the Whitfield documents that are sort of on the table that we've been discussing one is

380 00:52:23.340 --> 00:52:31.680 Jo Keogh: Getting a high school, he is on our liaison for the Human Rights Commission from high school, which has been working on.

381 00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:37.620 Jo Keogh: Is there anybody that would like to volunteer to join Clarice on that particular issue.

382 00:52:40.380 --> 00:52:41.730 noelpetra: Right, which just shows this again.

383 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:44.100 Jo Keogh: No, no, it's okay, it's

384 00:52:44.700 --> 00:52:49.050 Jo Keogh: The idea of creating a position for a liaison at the high school

385 00:52:50.100 --> 00:53:08.430 Jo Keogh: Who would be working with us, you know, able to attend meetings, not obviously a full member of the Commission, but would keep us informed of what's going on of the high school level and also keep them informed of what's going on here. So sort of serve as a go between

386 00:53:09.900 --> 00:53:13.470 noelpetra: I'm happy to help with that lies the Guilford Foundation has

387 00:53:14.550 --> 00:53:30.690 noelpetra: A lot of contact with the with high school students. They both apply for a lot of grants and they also have leadership awards, so I can, I can talk to her about some suggestions, like a shortlist or something along those lines. So I'm happy to help it if you want it.

388 00:53:32.250 --> 00:53:43.260 Jo Keogh: Is. Yeah. Okay, great. I know we talked about the need to get approval from the principal for this idea

389 00:53:44.520 --> 00:54:00.270 Jo Keogh: We needed to figure out. Cool. You know, if people could be nominated or if it should just be open for anyone to apply if it should be restricted to a specific year or, you know, years you know say junior, senior

390 00:54:01.500 --> 00:54:10.080 Jo Keogh: And then also we needed to get an application put together something that we could review and will probably also need

391 00:54:11.580 --> 00:54:15.360 Jo Keogh: Consent from the board of selectmen on this one. I would imagine so.

392 00:54:16.110 --> 00:54:27.810 Jo Keogh: Which I think we would be better to ask for after we have these other initial steps put into place before we actually send out the applications asked people to apply to say to do. So this is what we're thinking about

393 00:54:28.260 --> 00:54:34.740 Jo Keogh: And make sure that's okay. And it might just be something to meaning to one by not only for people about the photo.

394 00:54:36.150 --> 00:54:36.450 Yeah.

395 00:54:37.560 --> 00:54:42.870 Stephanie (she/her): Just a question. Do we have an idea or any

396 00:54:45.750 --> 00:54:46.830 Stephanie (she/her): Sorry, I can't think of the word.

397 00:54:49.020 --> 00:54:54.090 Stephanie (she/her): Restriction about age like this, the student needs to be at least a sophomore. Do they need to be.

398 00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.390 Stephanie (she/her): Reacted other committees, like where does the

399 00:54:57.690 --> 00:55:00.270 Stephanie (she/her): qualifications and what's the

400 00:55:01.380 --> 00:55:07.410 Stephanie (she/her): I guess the rubric, we're using to sort of see who might be appropriate.

401 00:55:10.020 --> 00:55:11.580 Stephanie (she/her): To think about, I guess. Yeah.

402 00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:21.060 Stephanie (she/her): Absolutely not to, you know, not to do any ages and but I feel like perhaps an older student who's been at the school for maybe a year or two.

403 00:55:21.930 --> 00:55:33.870 Stephanie (she/her): Or two or three years rather might have a better idea of what's actually going on versus someone who's just getting there, and still kind of delighted about the situation. So that's just my thought on it. But obviously,

404 00:55:34.740 --> 00:55:39.330 Juan Colberg: Yeah, I think if you're going to have an application process. We had to have what criteria.

405 00:55:39.750 --> 00:55:47.430 Juan Colberg: You're going to use for the selection to be transparent and fair but also who's gonna you know it's going to be full commission and so

406 00:55:48.000 --> 00:56:03.900 Juan Colberg: We're going to have a little bit more after we get the okay from the principle of course, which is I think that, you know, grade that I said that rubric or a criteria that we go with the application. So we can make the first selection of who you know.

407 00:56:08.070 --> 00:56:08.880 Stephanie (she/her): That was the word

408 00:56:13.260 --> 00:56:16.950 Jo Keogh: Alright so knowing furious. That's all you. Thank you.

409 00:56:21.090 --> 00:56:28.200 Jo Keogh: And who would like to help Stephanie with the cultural festival

410 00:56:30.060 --> 00:56:30.450 Jo Keogh: Very

411 00:56:33.120 --> 00:56:33.990 Juan Colberg: Happy to help to

412 00:56:34.650 --> 00:56:34.890 You

413 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:38.520 Eric: Right now.

414 00:56:44.550 --> 00:56:45.870 Jo Keogh: And I don't want to join too many

415 00:56:47.520 --> 00:56:53.700 Jo Keogh: Movies all the time, but I do have an interest in this one too. So if there's anything I can do, please don't hesitate to

416 00:56:55.650 --> 00:57:00.600 Jo Keogh: Know is that your hand up where you volunteering or warding off the cat.

417 00:57:01.530 --> 00:57:02.670 noelpetra: warding off the cat. Sorry.

418 00:57:03.930 --> 00:57:05.070 noelpetra: I volunteer to eat.

419 00:57:05.130 --> 00:57:06.780 noelpetra: Lots of food at the festival, but

420 00:57:10.470 --> 00:57:11.670 Juan Colberg: As a fundraising part

421 00:57:16.500 --> 00:57:16.860 Stephanie (she/her): Thanks.

422 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:25.830 Jo Keogh: Stephanie. I'll leave it to you to reach out to one Eric inquiries about that and

423 00:57:27.150 --> 00:57:40.770 Jo Keogh: Also, I know that your proposal was in its final tweaking stages so that we can submit that just, you know, the first draft to do is just to get you know the green light basically

424 00:57:41.370 --> 00:57:48.030 Jo Keogh: For the Whitfield documents project, we need the green light to at least start putting together a bigger proposal from them.

425 00:57:48.570 --> 00:57:51.450 Stephanie (she/her): Yeah. So what I'd like to do is just

426 00:57:52.530 --> 00:58:05.160 Stephanie (she/her): For the four of us are the five of us to at least have a meeting and just kind of look over the proposal again and we can tweak it together before we submit it because I would like some more input on on where it is.

427 00:58:05.850 --> 00:58:12.810 Juan Colberg: Actually, I think that will be also good idea. Once we have one to include in the in the script in the

428 00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:14.910 Juan Colberg: Student Life.

429 00:58:16.110 --> 00:58:20.550 Juan Colberg: Dictate can bring the schools right to pay, right. So,

430 00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:22.470 Juan Colberg: We need to

431 00:58:23.550 --> 00:58:27.330 Juan Colberg: Do to fill that that to seek him first, before we get over it.

432 00:58:28.860 --> 00:58:35.220 Jo Keogh: Yeah, and I think there will be quite a few members of the community that will want to be involved with that one, too. I was

433 00:58:36.240 --> 00:58:41.850 Jo Keogh: Looking over notes from LINES OF PETRA from the community conversation on compassion.

434 00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:49.230 Jo Keogh: That they held for community leadership. A few years back, and they did have a full steering committee with a lot of

435 00:58:49.650 --> 00:58:59.880 Jo Keogh: You know, members of the community who are in leadership positions and I have a sense that probably a lot of hands are going to want to get into stirring the pot to once it gets going. So, yeah.

436 00:58:59.910 --> 00:59:01.320 Stephanie (she/her): We're gonna need a bigger cauldron.

437 00:59:01.620 --> 00:59:04.620 Jo Keogh: Yes, we're going to need your culture. And it's true.

438 00:59:06.660 --> 00:59:18.510 Jo Keogh: And speaking of community conversations. Is there anyone who would like to work with me on putting that together, something that we're hoping will be an annual meeting.

439 00:59:19.740 --> 00:59:25.920 Jo Keogh: Conversation slash training or on this from nation for Guilford community and leadership.

440 00:59:26.970 --> 00:59:28.170 Jo Keogh: Stephanie. Thank you.

441 00:59:30.180 --> 00:59:32.040 Jo Keogh: Anyone else want

442 00:59:34.710 --> 00:59:35.100 Okay.

443 00:59:38.340 --> 00:59:39.060 Jo Keogh: All right.

444 00:59:41.220 --> 00:59:49.440 Jo Keogh: Okay, I think that's everything we have going, thus far, except for the next item on the agenda, which is something we talked about, I think,

445 00:59:50.010 --> 00:59:57.630 Jo Keogh: Before half of you joined us. So the idea was to get a logo for

446 00:59:58.290 --> 01:00:10.260 Jo Keogh: The Human Rights Commission something that we can use on our Facebook page on banners, you know, for tabling when we can actually table at events. Again, brochures promotional materials, things like that.

447 01:00:10.740 --> 01:00:29.400 Jo Keogh: And the idea was that we would actually have a competition and have a member of the community or members of the community submit design ideas for us. So it would be something that they can add to their portfolio and that we would not have to pay for. So hopefully win, win.

448 01:00:30.870 --> 01:00:38.940 Jo Keogh: And the reason that we did not move forward with this before, is because we felt that it was really important to get our values, our mission.

449 01:00:39.630 --> 01:00:47.400 Jo Keogh: All of that our vision statement in place before reaching out to do this. And now we have that so

450 01:00:47.820 --> 01:00:53.700 Jo Keogh: It's something that I'd like to move forward with so that we can start branding, because I think that will be important.

451 01:00:54.300 --> 01:01:04.530 Jo Keogh: Moving ahead. And I also think, again, this is a great way to get members and community involved and excited about what we're doing, or at least aware of the fact that we exist so

452 01:01:06.390 --> 01:01:13.380 Jo Keogh: I guess we need to take formal vote on that on Thursday, so I'll put that up them.

453 01:01:14.520 --> 01:01:19.950 Jo Keogh: Is there anyone who would like to help me. Yes.

454 01:01:22.230 --> 01:01:24.450 Stephanie (she/her): I do what I volunteered for too many things already

455 01:01:29.070 --> 01:01:29.760 Jo Keogh: Andy

456 01:01:31.980 --> 01:01:34.350 Jo Keogh: Anybody looking to you guys.

457 01:01:36.330 --> 01:01:41.580 Eric: What would you need in front of the graphic artist. I mean, what would you need for help. I'm not gonna if I can do whatever I can.

458 01:01:42.330 --> 01:01:45.180 Jo Keogh: Um, I think, really, we just need to put the

459 01:01:46.350 --> 01:01:56.010 Jo Keogh: You know, put in an application together for people. We already have clearance on this from Tracy Brinkman in the board of selectmen his office. She said, it's fine board of selectmen

460 01:01:56.850 --> 01:02:10.200 Jo Keogh: Will be voting ourselves but then they're going to need to vote on our vote the ball so they will be involved in this, but we're at least allowed to move forward with the process. So I think it's mainly just getting the application together.

461 01:02:10.770 --> 01:02:11.400 Jo Keogh: Man.

462 01:02:11.670 --> 01:02:13.440 Jo Keogh: I think that's about it. So,

463 01:02:13.470 --> 01:02:15.540 Juan Colberg: I'm assuming the application will have the

464 01:02:16.560 --> 01:02:32.430 Juan Colberg: Review and all the texts from the the towel legal bicycles gonna have to be some kind of release and trademark whatever I that make sure that whatever it is the outcome that we own it right that because he's been abusive is

465 01:02:33.570 --> 01:02:35.640 Juan Colberg: A legal language and the applications with people.

466 01:02:36.780 --> 01:02:40.230 Jo Keogh: Tracey Bregman so patients. Yeah.

467 01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:41.520 Juan Colberg: Right, but the application. I mean,

468 01:02:43.260 --> 01:03:00.690 Jo Keogh: Yeah, so actually know maybe since you are also fluent in legalese much like one if you would just be willing to look it over the application before I submit it at our next meeting. And then from there, can get submitted to Tracy and kind of go down the daisy chain. Yeah.

469 01:03:02.100 --> 01:03:02.400 Thank you.

470 01:03:04.020 --> 01:03:04.380 Jo Keogh: Okay.

471 01:03:06.330 --> 01:03:06.750 Jo Keogh: All right.

472 01:03:08.490 --> 01:03:11.610 Jo Keogh: All right, that's all I've got folks anything from anyone else.

473 01:03:14.790 --> 01:03:21.780 Jo Keogh: All right, meeting in record time one hour before no starts taking off like a rocket

474 01:03:24.510 --> 01:03:25.650 Stephanie (she/her): I think he's hungry.

475 01:03:28.680 --> 01:03:30.360 Juan Colberg: I think you can play tonight. Right.

476 01:03:31.110 --> 01:03:33.330 Juan Colberg: Getting ready to go to watch the game so

477 01:03:34.110 --> 01:03:36.540 noelpetra: I thought the game was at seven and I was

478 01:03:36.540 --> 01:03:37.380 panicking and then

479 01:03:43.350 --> 01:03:48.240 Jo Keogh: Make a motion to to close this meeting to have a second

480 01:03:50.670 --> 01:03:51.090 noelpetra: Begging

481 01:03:51.180 --> 01:03:53.340 Jo Keogh: God yeah I have like all of you. Second,

482 01:03:54.390 --> 01:03:55.620 Jo Keogh: Ones that are first

483 01:03:57.720 --> 01:04:00.120 Jo Keogh: Alright, great. Thanks everyone.

484 01:04:00.810 --> 01:04:01.380 Happy New Year.

485 01:04:12.930 --> 01:04:13.470 Jo Keogh: Right.

486 01:04:13.950 --> 01:04:14.760 All right.

487 01:04:16.380 --> 01:04:16.950 9BeEQU: What

488 01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:18.060 Jo Keogh: Well, good for you.

489 01:04:18.450 --> 01:04:26.280 9BeEQU: Yeah, I'm good. So I just want to make sure there wasn't anything extra. But I will continue to take notes as I have been and

490 01:04:26.910 --> 01:04:27.390 Jo Keogh: Thank you.

491 01:04:27.660 --> 01:04:33.900 9BeEQU: Get them to hopefully before my goal usually is to get them to you before the weekend.

492 01:04:34.200 --> 01:04:43.200 9BeEQU: Yeah, um, because that you know, um, so hopefully I can do that. This week, and the meeting was shorter. So hopefully that won't take as long

493 01:04:43.350 --> 01:04:48.780 Jo Keogh: As well. Yeah, I think our next meeting. I'm not expecting to be quite as brief but

494 01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:50.280 Jo Keogh: Yeah. Who knows.

495 01:04:50.370 --> 01:04:56.910 9BeEQU: I'll prepare myself for something similar like when Paul Freeman visited that was probably. Yeah.

496 01:04:58.530 --> 01:04:59.700 9BeEQU: Yeah, okay.

497 01:05:00.300 --> 01:05:00.690 9BeEQU: All right.

498 01:05:01.290 --> 01:05:02.460 Jo Keogh: All right, thank you so much.

499 01:05:02.490 --> 01:05:05.550 9BeEQU: Yeah, a couple weeks later.

500 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:06.120 Bye.