Commonwealth of Pennsylvania House of Representatives Appropriations Committee Hearing Budget Hearing
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COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HEARING BUDGET HEARING STATE CAPITOL MAJORITY CAUCUS ROOM HARRISBURG, PENNSYLVANIA WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2006, 9:00 A.M. BEFORE: HONORABLE BRETT FEESE, CHAIRMAN HONORABLE DWIGHT EVANS, CHAIRMAN HONORABLE MATTHEW BAKER HONORABLE STEVEN CAPPELLI HONORABLE GENE DiGIROLAMO HONORABLE PATRICK FLEAGLE HONORABLE DAN FRANKEL HONORABLE KATHY MANDERINO HONORABLE ANTHONY MELIO HONORABLE PHYLLIS MUNDY HONORABLE SCOTT PETRI HONORABLE DOUGLAS REICHLEY HONORABLE SAMUEL ROHRER HONORABLE JOSH SHAPIRO HONORABLE JERRY STERN HONORABLE MICHAEL STURLA HONORABLE THOMAS TANGRETTI HONORABLE DON WALKO HONORABLE JAKE WHEATLEY HONORABLE PETER ZUG ALSO PRESENT: EDWARD NOLAN MIRIAM FOX JEAN M. DAVIS, REPORTER NOTARY PUBLIC 2 1 I N D E X 2 WITNESS PAGE 3 HONORABLE THOMAS TIGUE 4 4 HONORABLE KAREN BEYER 9 5 HONORABLE PETER DALEY 14 6 HONORABLE KATHY RAPP 18 7 HONORABLE JENNIFER MANN 22 8 HONORABLE DARYL METCALFE 28 9 HONORABLE JOSH SHAPIRO 32 10 HONORABLE PAUL CLYMER 38 11 HONORABLE GENE DiGIROLAMO 42 12 HONORABLE MICHAEL TURZAI 47 13 HONORABLE MICHAEL STURLA 52 14 HONORABLE DAVID MILLARD 56 15 HONORABLE PAUL COSTA 58 16 HONORABLE DOUGLAS REICHLEY 63 17 HONORABLE ROBERT GODSHALL 68 18 HONORABLE TIMOTHY SOLOBAY 72 19 HONORABLE BERNIE O'NEILL 77 20 HONORABLE RICHARD GRUCELA 83 21 HONORABLE JOSEPH MARKOSEK 85 22 HONORABLE CHERELLE PARKER 89 23 HONORABLE JOHN PAYNE 93 24 HONORABLE JOHN SIPTROTH 96 25 HONORABLE SCOTT BOYD 101 3 1 WITNESSES (cont'd.) PAGE 2 HONORABLE JOHN BLACKWELL 105 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ATTACHMENTS 11 12 HONORABLE MICHAEL HANNA 13 HONORABLE FRANK OLIVER 14 HONORABLE JAMES ROEBUCK 15 HONORABLE LARRY SATHER 16 HONORABLE CURT SONNEY 17 HONORABLE W. CURTIS THOMAS 18 HONORABLE JOHN YUDICHAK 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 4 1 CHAIRMAN FEESE: I would like to call this 2 hearing of the House Appropriations Committee to 3 order. Today is the time for members of the 4 Pennsylvania House of Representatives to present their 5 testimony concerning the Governor's proposed 2006-2007 6 budget. 7 Our first presenter today is Representative 8 Thomas Tigue. Representative Tigue, thank you for 9 appearing today and presenting your testimony. 10 REPRESENTATIVE TIGUE: Thank you, 11 Mr. Chairman. I'm sorry about my voice. If you have 12 problems hearing me, I have a little problem with my 13 throat. But anyway, I'll try to be short. 14 Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Chairman Evans 15 and members of the committee. Thank you for allowing 16 me to make this presentation. I just want to mention 17 three items which I am concerned with in the budget. 18 The first item is, because of the expected 19 enrollment and utilization of the new Medicare Part D 20 prescription drug usage by those who are currently 21 enrolled in PACE and PACENET, the proposed budget, the 22 Governor's proposed budget, estimates that there will 23 be a savings of more than $200 million for PACE and 24 PACENET. I believe that we should use these savings 25 to expand the eligibility for PACE and PACENET to 5 1 include individuals who are disabled or to those who 2 are 62 years old. Currently, you know, it's 65. 3 In addition, I think some of the savings 4 should be used to pay any of the premiums or increased 5 co-pays required by Medicare Part D. We must insure 6 that no one currently enrolled in PACE or PACENET will 7 be forced to spend more for prescriptions than they do 8 under PACE or PACENET. 9 As an example, if you're paying PACENET right 10 now, of course, you have to pay $40 a month. Whatever 11 the premium might be in Medicare Part D would be added 12 to that, depending on how we change it. So what I'm 13 saying is, make sure that those folks under PACENET 14 don't pay $40, a premium, plus a co-pay that's higher 15 than what they're doing now. In fact, we should be 16 able to lower or eliminate the amounts they currently 17 spend. I think some of the savings should be used to 18 do that. 19 Secondly, in his proposed budget, the 20 Governor has proposed a new program, "Science: It's 21 Elementary." I think that's a giant step in the 22 right direction. The President mentioned in his State 23 of the Union address that we're having, again, this 24 math and science efficiency which must be addressed. 25 The purpose of this program is to improve science 6 1 programs in elementary schools. I request that we 2 consider similar targeted funds for math and science 3 programs in middle and secondary schools. To complete 4 the sequence, I strongly suggest that we provide 5 $2 million to fund equipment for our engineering 6 programs in our colleges and universities. We have 7 not provided this funding for the past three years. 8 Studies are showing that we are falling behind in the 9 number of engineers that we are graduating from 10 colleges. There's a dire need for engineers in this 11 country. I think in the future there's going to be a 12 push towards math and science efficiency. 13 On that same theme, to complete the sequence, 14 I also think that we should restore a line item that 15 had been in the budget for a number of years but has 16 not been in for the last three or four budgets. And 17 that's a small line item of $2 million for engineering 18 equipment for the colleges and universities that 19 provide programs in that particular area. 20 And last, it's a small item in the budget. I 21 get tired of doing this each year. All the proposed 22 budgets take out a $250,000 line item so we come back 23 and we put it back in and everybody says, yes, yes, 24 yes. It's a very small piece of the budget which is a 25 very important program because it has benefited 50,000 7 1 disabled veterans. It's the Disabled American 2 Veterans Transportation line item. I'm sure we can 3 put the $250,000 in, but I think that it's time that 4 we go beyond the $250,000 and add perhaps a small 5 amount, maybe $100,000. 6 This program is great. A number of 7 volunteers provide necessary transportation to those 8 veterans who are disabled and who need medical care. 9 Actually, Ford Motor Company has been very helpful in 10 providing vans at cost, in fact, less than cost. So 11 this is a very good program. I think we should put 12 some more money in that. 13 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And if anyone has 14 any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. 15 CHAIRMAN FEESE: Thank you, Representative 16 Tigue. 17 Are there any questions from the committee? 18 Representative Baker. 19 REPRESENTATIVE BAKER: I am intrigued by your 20 comment about Ford Motor Company. Do they donate 21 those to the organizations? 22 REPRESENTATIVE TIGUE: Yes. They provide the 23 vans. And the money is used, you know, obviously for 24 the cost of the operation of the vans as far as the 25 program and providing some of the cost to the people 8 1 who have to be reimbursed for different things. Ford 2 has been great on this. I think they've been doing 3 this for five years. It's been a very successful 4 program. Not many people know about it. It's a very 5 small item. It's $250,000 in this budget. It should 6 be more. 7 REPRESENTATIVE BAKER: Are you aware if Ford 8 ever donates or provides vans for the disabled 9 individually? 10 REPRESENTATIVE TIGUE: I'm not aware of that. 11 They may, but I'm not aware of that. 12 REPRESENTATIVE BAKER: Thank you. 13 REPRESENTATIVE TIGUE: Thank you. 14 CHAIRMAN FEESE: Representative Tigue, I just 15 wanted to mention -- I understand you will not be 16 seeking re-election. I just wanted to mention that 17 working with you -- you have been an outstanding 18 member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives. 19 I think you've served the Commonwealth exceptionally 20 well. I think you will be missed by your constituents 21 as well as the members of this House. 22 REPRESENTATIVE TIGUE: Well, I appreciate 23 those kind words, Mr. Chairman. And I noticed that 24 you made the same decision. There's going to be life 25 after the Legislature and we're going to enjoy it. 9 1 Thank you for all you've done. 2 CHAIRMAN EVANS: Mr. Chairman, I would like 3 to say that Tommy and I got elected in the same class. 4 REPRESENTATIVE TIGUE: Yes, we've been here a 5 long time. 6 CHAIRMAN EVANS: You have always been 7 forthright, Tommy. Maybe you'll come back as a 8 citizen and do the same thing. 9 REPRESENTATIVE TIGUE: Next year Brett and I 10 could come back and start something different. 11 Thank you. 12 CHAIRMAN EVANS: Thank you, Tommy. 13 CHAIRMAN FEESE: Thank you. 14 Our next presenter will be Representative 15 Karen Beyer. 16 REPRESENTATIVE BEYER: Good morning, 17 Mr. Chairman. 18 CHAIRMAN FEESE: Good morning. 19 REPRESENTATIVE BEYER: Good morning, Chairman 20 Evans. 21 CHAIRMAN EVANS: Good morning. 22 REPRESENTATIVE BEYER: Thank you for giving 23 me the opportunity to testify before your committee 24 this morning.