House of Commons Health Committee

Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee

Session 2006–07

The Health Committee

The Health Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the expenditure, administration, and policy of the Department of Health and its associated bodies.

Membership Rt Hon Kevin Barron MP (Labour, Rother Valley) (Chairman) Mr David Amess MP (Conservative, Southend West) (discharged 22.10.07) Charlotte Atkins MP (Labour, Staffordshire Moorlands) John Austin MP (Labour, Erith and Thamesmead) (discharged 31.10.05) Mr Paul Burstow MP (Liberal Democrat, Sutton & Cheam) (discharged 24.4.06) Mr Ronnie Campbell MP (Labour, Blyth Valley) (added 31.10.05) Jim Dowd MP (Labour, Lewisham West) Sandra Gidley MP (Liberal Democrat, Romsey) (added 24.4.06) Anne Milton MP (Conservative, Guildford) (discharged 11.12.06) Dr Doug Naysmith MP (Labour, North West) Mike Penning MP (Conservative, Hemel Hempstead) Mr Stewart Jackson MP (Conservative, Peterborough) (added 11.12.06, discharged 16.7.07) Mr Lee Scott MP (Conservative, Ilford North) (added 16.7.07) Dr Howard Stoate MP (Labour, Dartford) Mr Robert Syms MP (Conservative, Poole) (added 22.10.07) Dr Richard Taylor MP (Independent, Wyre Forest)

Powers The Committee is one of the departmental select committees, the powers of which are set out in House of Commons Standing Orders, principally in SO No 152. These are available on the Internet via www.parliament.uk.

Publications The Reports and evidence of the Committee are published by The Stationery Office by Order of the House. All publications of the Committee (including press notices) are on the Internet at www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_committees/health_committee.cfm.

Committee staff The staff of the Committee are Dr D F Harrison (Clerk), Emma Graham (Second Clerk), Ralph Coulbeck (Committee Specialist), Christine Kirkpatrick (Committee Specialist), Duma Langton (Committee Assistant) until 30.9.07, Frances Allingham (Committee Assistant) from 1.10.07, Julie Storey (Secretary) and Jim Hudson (Senior Office Clerk).

Contacts All correspondence should be addressed to the Clerk of the Health Committee, House of Commons, 7 Millbank, London SW1P 3JA. The telephone number for general enquiries is 020 7219 6182. The Committee’s email address is [email protected].

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Proceedings of the Committee

Thursday 21 November 2006

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Dr Doug Naysmith Charlotte Atkins Mike Penning Sandra Gidley Dr Howard Stoate Anne Milton Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into Aspects of the NHS IT Programme, the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, and Audiology Services.

2. NHS Deficits

Rt Hon Patricia Hewitt MP, Secretary of State for Health, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 23 November at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 23 November 2006

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Sandra Gidley Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Dr Richard Taylor Jim Dowd

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Public Expenditure

David Nicholson CBE, NHS Chief Executive, Hugh Taylor, Acting Permanent Secretary, and Richard Douglas, Director of Finance and Investment Department of Health gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 29 November at half past Nine o’clock.

Wednesday 29 November 2006

Members present

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Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Mike Penning Charlotte Atkins Dr Howard Stoate Anne Milton Dr Richard Taylor Dr Doug Naysmith

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Public Expenditure

Rt. Hon. Patricia Hewitt MP, Secretary of State for Health, David Nicholson CBE, NHS Chief Executive, and Hugh Taylor, Acting Permanent Secretary, Department of Health, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 7 December at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 7 December 2006

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Dr Doug Naysmith Charlotte Atkins Mike Penning Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor Anne Milton

1. The Work of the Committee

Ordered, That Professor Bob Sang be appointed Specialist Advisor to the Committee in its inquiry into Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS (The Chairman).

2. NHS Deficits

The draft Report proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the First Report of the Health Committee HC 73–I.

[Adjourned till Thursday 14 December at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 14 December 2006

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

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1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter

2. Workforce planning

Anne Rainsbury, Director of People and Organization Development NHS London, John Sargent, former Chief Executive, Greater Manchester Workforce Development Confederation, and Trish Knight, Director of Workforce Development. Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, and Rutland Strategic Deanery;Peter Stansbie, Director of Organisational Development, Skills for Health, David Highton, NHS Partners Network gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 11 January at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 11 January 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Mr Stewart Jackson Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Mike Penning Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

1. Declaration of Interests

Mr Stewart Jackson declared a pecuniary interest, namely a donation to his constituency party by the United and Cecil Club.

2. The Work of the Committee

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into Child Migrants.

Resolved, That the Committee visit Canada and the United States of America in connection with its inquires into NHS IT and NICE, and that the Chairman do seek the approval of the Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said visit.

Resolved, that the Committee do visit Medway in connection with its inquiry into Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS.

[Adjourned till Thursday 18 January at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 18 January 2007

Members present

Mr David Amess Dr Doug Naysmith Charlotte Atkins Mike Penning Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

In the absence of the Chairman, Dr Doug Naysmith was called to the Chair

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1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Workforce Planning

Sir Jonathan Michael, Chief Executive, Guy’s and St.Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust, Mr Mike Sobanja, Chief Executive, NHS Alliance, and Ms Susan Hodgetts, Chief Executive, Institute of Healthcare Management;Professor Christopher Foster, Director of Workforce Planning, Royal College of Pathology, Mr Phil Gray, Chief Executive, Chartered Society of Physiotherapy, and Ms Lousie Silverton, Deputy General Secretary, Royal College of Midwives, gave oral evidence

[Adjourned till Thursday 25 January at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 25 January 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Mr Stewart Jackson Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Mike Penning Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Workforce Planning

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, Minister of State for Quality, Clare Chapman, Director General of Workforce and Nic Greenfield, Deputy Director of Workforce, Department of Health, gave oral evidence

[Adjourned till Thursday 1 February at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 1 February 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Mr Stewart Jackson Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Dr Howard Stoate Jim Dowd Dr Richard Taylor Sandra Gidley

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

Draft Report (The Work of the Committee in 2005-06), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

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The draft Report was agreed to; the Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Second Report of the Health Committee HC 297

2. Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS

Professor Celia Davies, Visiting Professor at the LSE, Dr Ed Mayo, Chief Executive, National Consumer Council, and Dr Jonathan Tritter, Chief Executive, NHS Centre for Involvement gave oral evidence.

Mr Harry Cayton, National Director for Patients and the Public, and Mr Meredith Vivian, Head of Responsiveness and Accountability, Department of Health, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 8 February at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 8 February 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Dr Doug Naysmith Charlotte Atkins Mike Penning Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor Mr Stewart Jackson

1. The Work of the Committee

Further to its decision of 11 January, the Committee decided to visit Nashville instead of Washington.

2. Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS

Ms Sharon Grant, Chair, Commission for Patient and Public Involvement in Health, Ms Elizabeth Manero, Director, Health Link, and Cllr Barrie Taylor, Chair, City of Westminster Health Scrutiny Task Group; Ms Mary Adams, Head of Public Involvement, North Somerset PCT, Ms Anna Coote, Head of Engaging Patients and the Public, Healthcare Commission, and Dr Albert Day, Chairman, Harrogate and District NHS Foundation Trust, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 22 February at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 22 February 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Mr Stewart Jackson Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Mike Penning Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter

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2. Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS

Mrs Jennifer Beesley, former Chair, Great Yarmouth PPI Forum; Ms Penny Robinson, Chair, United Bristol Hospitals NHS Trust PPI Forum; and Mr Barry Silverman, Chair, Southwark Patients Forum for Primary Care; Mr Nigel Edwards, Director of Policy, and Mr David Stout, Director, PCT Network, NHS Confederation; Dr Brian Fisher, PPI Lead, NHS Alliance; Professor Angela Coulter, Chief Executive, Picker Institute, Ms Frances Hasler, Head of User and Public Involvement, Commission for Social Care Inspection, and Mr David Wood, Chief Executive, Attend, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 1 March at half past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 1 March 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Sandra Gidley Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Dr Richard Taylor Jim Dowd

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter

Ordered, That Professor Joe Collier, Professor Alan Maynard and Dr Hilary Pickles be appointed Specialist Advisers to assist the Committee in its inquiry into the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence.

Resolved, That the Committee visit France in connection with its inquiries into NHS IT and NICE, and that the Chairman do seek approval of the Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the said visit.

Several memoranda relating to Audiology Services were ordered to be reported to the House for printing.

2. Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS

Ms Candy Morris, Chief Executive, South East Coast Strategic Health Authority, and Mr Richard Stein, Partner, Leigh Day & Co, Solicitors; Ms Rosie Winterton MP, Minister of State for Health Services, Mr Harry Cayton, National Director for Patients and the Public, and Mr Meredith Vivian, Head of Responsiveness and Accountability, Department of Health, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 8 March at half-past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 8 March 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Mike Penning Sandra Gidley Dr Howard Stoate Mr Stewart Jackson Dr Richard Taylor

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1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter

Ordered, That Professor Ross Anderson, Dr Jem Rashbass and Professor John Williams be appointed Specialist Advisers to assist the Committee in its inquiry into The Electronic Patient Record.

2. Audiology Services

Dr John Low, Chief Executive, Royal National Institute for the Deaf, Mrs Ruth Thomsen, Audiology Services, Charing Cross Hospital, and Mr Jeffrey Murphy, Chief Executive, Ultravox Holdings Ltd; Mr Ivan Lewis, MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health, Mr Nick Chapman, National Director, 18-week Target, Professor Sue Hill, Chief Scientific Officer, Department of Health, and Ms Helen MacCarthy, Director of Facilities Management and Utilities, NHS Purchasing and Supply Agency, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 15 March at Ten o’clock

Thursday 15 March 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr Ronnie Campbell Dr Howard Stoate Jim Dowd Dr Richard Taylor

The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

Draft Report (Workforce Planning), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fourth Report of the Health Committee HC 171

[Adjourned till Thursday 22 March at 9.30 am.

Thursday 22 March 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Peter Bone Dr Doug Naysmith Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor Mr Stewart Jacksn

1. Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

Draft Report (Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

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The draft Report was agreed to; the Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Third Report of the Health Committee HC 278

[Adjourned till Thursday 19 April at 9.30 am.

Thursday 19 April 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Charlotte Atkins Mr Stewart Jackson Jim Dowd Dr Doug Naysmith Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned til Thursday 26 April at half-past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 26 April 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Charlotte Atkins Mr Stewart Jackson Jim Dowd Dr Doug Naysmith Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

Several memoranda relating to National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence were ordered to be reported to the House for printing.

2. The Electronic Patient Record

Resolved, That the Committee do make two visits in the UK to see demonstrations of the Detailed Care Record and the Summary Care Record.

Mr Richard Granger, Director General of IT for the NHS and Mr Harry Cayton, National Director for Patients and the Public, Department of Health, and Dr Gillian Braunold, National Clinical Lead for GPs, Connecting for Health; Dr Martyn Thomas, visiting Professor of Software Engineering, University of Oxford, Mr Andrew Hawker, NHS Patient, and Dr Paul Cundy, Chair, General Practitioners’ Joint IT Committee, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 2 May at half-past Nine o’clock.

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Wednesday 2 May 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter

Draft Report (Audiology Services), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Minutes of Proceedings relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fifth Report of the Health Committee HC 392

[Adjourned till Thursday 10 May at half past Nine o'clock.

Thursday 10 May 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Mr Stewart Jackson Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Mike Penning Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter

3. The Electronic Patient Record

Professor Douwe Korff, Professor of International Law, London Metropolitan University, Ms Joyce Robins, Co-Director, Patient Concern, and Mr Jonathan Bamford, Assistant Information Commissioner, Information Commissioner's Office; Mr Guy Hains, President, Europe Group, Computer Sciences Corporation, Professor Brian Randell, Chair of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, and Dr Rob Hale, Confidentiality Working Group, Royal College of Psychiatrists, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 17 May at half-past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 17 May 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

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Mr David Amess Mr Stewart Jackson Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Mike Penning Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee take evidence from a Department of Health Minister in July.

Resolved, That the Committee visit Homerton Hospital in connection with the Electronic Patient Record Inquiry on 6 June, and visit in connection with the NICE Inquiry on 4 and 5 July.

2. National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE)

Dr Felicity Harvey, Head of Medicines, Pharmacy and Industry; Mr Simon Reeve, Head of Clinical & Cost Effectiveness in MPI, Dr Fiona Adshead, Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Professor Mike Richards CBE, National Cancer Director; Professor Sir Michael Rawlins, NICE Chairman, and Mr Andrew Dillon, NICE Chief Executive, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 7 June at half-past Nine o’clock..

Thursday 7 June 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Dr Doug Naysmith Charlotte Atkins Mike Penning Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor Mr Stewart Jackson

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Electronic Patient Record

Dr Mark Walport, Director, The Wellcome Trust; Professor Carol Dezateux, Head of the MRC Centre for Paediatric Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Institute of Child Health; Professor Simon Wessely, Academy of Medical Sciences; Mr Patrick O'Connell, Managing Director, BT Health; Mr Alan Shackman, Independent IT Consultant; and Professor Naomi Fulop, Chair of Health and Health Policy, King's College London, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 14 June at half-past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 14 June 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

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Charlotte Atkins Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Ronnie Campbell Dr Howard Stoate Jim Dowd Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

The committee considered this matter.

2. Electronic Patient Record

Professor John Feehally, President, The Renal Association; Dr Gill Markham, Vice President, The Royal College of Radiologists; Mr Frank Burns, Former CEO, Wirral Hospital NHS Trust; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, a Member of the House of Lords, Minister of State for Quality; Mr Richard Granger, Director General of IT for the NHS; and Dr Simon Eccles, National Clinical Director for Hospital Doctors, Department of Health, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 28 June at half-past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 28 June 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Charlotte Atkins Dr Howard Stoate Mr Stewart Jackson Dr Richard Taylor Dr Doug Naysmith

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

2. National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE)

Professor Peter Smith, Centre for Health Economics, University of York; Professor Raymond MacAllister, Chair, Use of Medicines Committee, UCHL; Professor Stirling Bryan, Health Services Management Centre, University of Birmingham; Mr Ian Beaumont, Director of Press, PR & Public Affairs, Bowel Cancer UK; Dr Kiran Patel, Chairman of Trustees, South Asian Health Foundation; and Dr David Anderson, Chair, Faculty of Old Age Psychiatry, Royal College of Psychiatrists, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 12 July at half-past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 12 July 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr Ronnie Campbell Dr Doug Naysmith Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

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The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into Modernising Medical Careers and Dental Services.

2. National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE)

Dame Gill Morgan, Chief Executive, NHS Confederation; Dr Tim Crayford, Association of Directors of Public Health; Dr Lise Llewellyn, Chief Executive, Berkshire East PCT; Dr Richard Barker, Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry; Mr Eddie Gray, General Manager and Senior Vice-President, GlaxoSmithKline; and Dr David Birchwood, Vice-President, International and Government Affairs - Europe, Johnson & Johnson, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 24 July at half-past Nine o’clock.

Tuesday 24 July 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Dr Doug Naysmith Charlotte Atkins Mike Penning Jim Dowd Mr Lee Scott Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee take evidence from Professor the Lord Darzi of Denham KBE, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department of Health.

Ordered, That Professor Morris Brown, Professor Charles Easmon, and Dr Fiona Moss be appointed Specialist Advisers to assist the Committee in its inquiry into Modernising Medical Careers.

[Adjourned till tomorrow at half-past Nine o’clock.

Wednesday 25 July 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Mr David Amess Dr Doug Naysmith Charlotte Atkins Mike Penning Mr Ronnie Campbell Mr Lee Scott Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

Draft Report (The Electronic Patient Record) , proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.

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The formal minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Sixth Report from the Health Committee, Session 2006-07, The Electronic Patient Record, HC 422-I, pp 108-109.

2. Responsibilities of the Secretary of State for Health

Rt Hon Alan Johnson MP, Secretary of State for Health, and Hugh Taylor, Permanent Secretary, Department of Health, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 11 October at half-past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 11 October 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Charlotte Atkins Mr Lee Scott Jim Dowd Dr Howard Stoate Sandra Gidley Dr Richard Taylor Dr Doug Naysmith

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That Mr Bob Dredge be appointed a Specialist Adviser to assist the Committee in its inquiry into the Public Expenditure Questionnaire.

2. The National Institute of Health and Clinical Evidence (NICE)

Professor Karl Claxton, Centre for Health Economics, York University; Professor Jon Nichol, Sheffield University; Professor Adrian Towse, Office of Health Economics; and Simeon Thornton, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 18 October at half-past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 18 October 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Charlotte Atkins Mr Lee Scott Sandra Gidley Dr Howard Stoate Dr Doug Naysmith Dr Richard Taylor

1. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter

2. The National Institute of Health and Clinical Evidence (NICE)

Professor John Appleby, Chief Economist, The King’s Fund, and Professor Nancy Devlin, Department of Economics, City University; Professor Roger Atkins, British Orthopaedic Association, Dr Beverley Hunt, Medical Director, Lifeblood: The Thrombosis Charity, and Dr Anita Thomas, Chair of Expert Panel on VTE;

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Steve Winyard, Campaigns Manager, Royal National Institute of Blind People, and Dr Rafiq Hasan, Director of Market Access, Novartis, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 25 October at half-past Nine o’clock.

Thursday 25 October 2007

Members present

Mr Kevin Barron, in the Chair

Jim Dowd Mr Lee Scott Sandra Gidley Dr Howard Stoate Dr Doug Naysmith Mr Robert Syms Mike Penning Dr Richard Taylor

1. Declaration of Interests

Mr Robert Syms declared no pecuniary or other interests pursuant to the Resolution of the House of 13 July 1992

2. The Work of the Committee

The Committee considered this matter

4. Our NHS, our future

Professor the Lord Darzi of Denham KBE, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department of Health, David Nicholson, CBE, NHS Chief Executive, and Ruth Carnall, CBE, Chief Executive NHS London, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Thursday 8 November at half-past Nine o’clock.