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THE - INDIANAPOLIS - Sources close to former Vice President are saying that he likely won't make a decision on whether to run for governor of until nthis summer or fall. n HOWEYT ~e has a very heavy travel schedule this spring, nsaid Anne Hathaway, executive director of Quayle's nlssues '96" committee. nlt lightens up in May. He'll be spending more time in Indiana and he'll POLITICAL talk to people about whether his involvement will be on the interna­ tional, national or local level." As for a short-term deadline - one that has been requested from gubernatorial candidate Rex Early - that isn't likely. ni wouldn't REPORT put a deadline on a decision, nHathaway said. nit will be made some­ time this summer or fall.n The Weekly Briefing On Indiana Politics Sources in and close to the Quayle camp say the dilemma facing the former vice president is one where many of his ardent Hoosier supporters are urging him to make the race for a probable The Howey Political Report is published by The 1996 matchup against Lt. Gov. Frank O'Bannon. Those supporters Newsletter Center,a subsidiary of Nixon Newspapers Inc. include former Indiana State GOP Chairman Allan Hubbard. The Howey Political Report is an independent, non­ ~ut for every good reason there is to enter the race, there partisan newsletter analyzing the political process in are as many reasons not to," one source said. Indiana. It neither endorses candidates nor advocates Supporters of a Quayle gubernatorial bid cite the short "shelf positions of public policy life" of former vice presidents - four years.After the four-year cycle Brian A. Howey, editor Office/Fax:219-420-0909 between presidential elections, former vice presidents tend to fade 1707N.Anthony Blvd. Mobilenet: 219-438-5105 from the public eye. Fort Wayne, IN 46805 AOL: [email protected] "There is a school of thought that Dan Quayle needs to For Subscription information call: 317-473-3091 maintain his public stature and being would fit © 1995, The Howey Political Report that profile," the source said. A Quayle entry into the gubernatorial race would almost

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"(Dick Lugar) would have made • Witwer sees GOP '96 issue in prevailing wage page 4 an excellent secretary of state in the • Ticker Tape: No Hamilton retirement seen in '96 page 4 • Columnists Tuley, Kaul, Broder, Smith page 5 Clinton administration ...• " • HPR Interview: catching up with McCloskey pages 6-7 - Frank Mccloskey • Wandering: Eyes on the jerks in the DC press page 8 ·------···Q.. 1)age 2of8 Thursday, March 2~,, 1995

1-IIDv.1~8~ R~ M I L L automatically make bu1m the front-runner, b :· 1~ bid see numerous pitiaJls. One is the le:vel of • • in the Republican primary a.11d genm.1 elec1!ion. expectations that wo1 k l 1e created by his mere While Quayle can't transfer campaign mcine}' entry. If Quayle defea1 ed 1..)'Bannon, but only by a "Well, now, everyone knows th is • from federal races into an Indiana race, virt1rnllir narrow margin, it woulld l1iurt his natiicinal pro­ state is supreme when it comes no one believes that Quayle would have my file. to. .. pro basketball. - Brian Howey problem raising the n1~cessary money to wag1e· a "If I were in Mr. Quayle's camp, I would winning campaign. L1diana Democra1·s reac ily advise caution," said B1ri1E1n Vargus, who heads ••• acknowledge that a Q11ayle candidacy wc11lc 's r~:tbil.ic Opinion Laboratory. De11il's Dictionai;f, pose a formidable task for O'Ba.nnon. "He's got much more to lose." by Ambrose Bierce Should Quay:le win th.:· electn ~n, he Vargus note:!> tbmt the "de-evolution" of would be in a positiorn to seize he "rn:v1-1.ede ml·· federal programs bad: 1o the states might pro­ ism" concept sweeping Congre!>S whe1e marry,r vide a proper political 1. l1; tform. "But Indiana is Lap,.n. One of the most impo1tant federal programs would be transferred to the: such a weak governor i; .a Le," Vargus said, "he organs of the female system - an states, many in the form of block grants. "A~ might find himselfbi(11:1wd in." admirable provision of nature for governor, Quayle woulld have a] oppon.unitr 1··0 There is the "1962 scenario" where for­ the repose of infancy, bU't chie~y develop and pioneer the new roles for sta1tes ," a. mer Vice President Riclha1rd Ntxon ran and lost a usef JI in rural festivities to support proponent of his candidacy said. gubernatorial bid. No tin~: that O'Bannon will be plates of cold chicken and heads of Quayle has made it clear that he wants no patsy since he will 1t• · 1ble to tap i.J111to main­ adult males.The male of our species to run for president beyond 1996. The fa,:t th~tt stream donation sourn: ~ as part of the current has a rudimentary lap, imperf1~ctly Woodrow Wilson, FraJi1iklin Roosevelt, )irnmr state administration, dd:ractors say that the developed and in no one mtnbut·· Carter, and Bill Clinto :1 1 Uwer·e supreme risk for Quayle'. fa that by losing, his ing 10 the animal's substantial wel­ propelled into the pre.:.idency after serving c:.s political career would h1~ finished. The wild card fare. governor this century bolsters the arg1men1 that is a short "disenchanl rn e•11t cycle" nationally that it would make a propt!r platfornrn to larnnch sLlch could prompt a back11·, · against the 1992 Politeness, n. The most acceptable a bid. "Republican Revoluti 1)11· .' A CNN Poll released hypocricy. Detractors of a Quayle gubematori al Tuesday reveals that Corngress has. a 3?' percent • continued on page 3 ------·----a••-·------Page 3of8 Thursday, March 23, 1995 approval rating and a 56 percent disapproval "Issues '96" office in Carmel open.A staff of 10 rating, while President Clinton's pro/con ratings maintained there includes Jim Huston, who stand at 46-45 percent. managed Linley Pearson's 1992 gubernatorial TICKER Others view Quayle as having little campaign as well as U.S. Rep. John Myers' 1994 T A p E experience or inclination in dealing with state re-election bid.Another is Susan Wehrenberg, issues, both past and present. Hubbard, a top who came over from the state GOP committee aide to Quayle during the Bush administration, last winter. Leave it to former Agriculture made that transition as state chairman and "You have to read something into the Seaetary Earl Butz to put aDick proved to be successful. Bill Schreiber, fact that there's still staff there," one source Lugar presidential bid in blunt per­ O'Bannon's key strategist, is partially in a wish­ commented. Huston's reputation has not been spective.Speaking in Linton, Butz ful mode when he says that either Dan or hurt by the candidate's self-destructive nature of sald,"Dick is perhaps the most Marilyn Quayle "have the profile to serve in the Pearson's campaign, and he took a moribund intelligent man in the United States next Republican administration cabinet" in Myers organization which appeared to be ripe Senate, which isn't saying too much. Washington. for defeat last year and beat Greencastle Mayor But he's probably too honest politi­ Many believe the next governor of Mike Harmless with 65 percent of the vote. cally to make agood president. n Indiana will have to raise taxes to face the rising Officially Quayle has said," I will take demands placed on states after eight years of the some time to think about it and talk to people in Richard L Berke writes in the Bayh administration. Detractors of the bid are Indiana. The people in Indiana will help make a New York Times that lobbyists from convinced that President Bush's tax hike in 1990 decision on what my next step will be. I will not the Indiana Fann Bureau "trted after his "read my lips" assertions in the 1988 be able to make that decision for some time for more than two months to call on presidential campaign doomed his re-election. now." Rep. Mark E. Souder" but that 0 he Then there is the reason why Quayle Vargus thinks it's noteworthy that refused to see them. "The reason? A opted out of the '96 presidential race. Marilyn Quayle has yet to sanction a poll to see how he late October endorsement at an Quayle quoted her husband last week in would stack up in a race against O'Bannon. Arcola hog farm of his opponent, Birmingham, Ala., as saying he "didn't want to That says volumes about the Quayle former U.S. Rep.Jiii Long."They spend the next two years looking at motel timetable. made abad political choice, and rooms" while their three teen-agers grew up. they chose to do it in my face, and While running a gubernatorial campaign isn't • QUAYLE NOTES: Hathaway says then they got rolled," Souder said. as intense as a presidential bid, it would still take inquiries into Issues '96 cover an array of topics. He met with the Farm Bureau only a great deal of time away from the family. The "Some want him to re-enter the presidential after bowing to his demand to difference is that he would be able to come home race, some expressed disappointment. We're get­ replace its lobbyists with people most nights after stumping the state, but many ting support on the national level for him to run sympathetic to his conservative evenings and weekends would be spent on the for governor. vlews."They need to getthe mes­ stump. Hathaway added, "We're keeping very sage in the PAC community that From all accounts, Quayle will give the busy here at Issues '96:' they need to hire staff people that bid serious consideration. He has kept his represent the members' wishes and want to keep us In power," Souder said.

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Labor clolfU1t ha~i1n't ·~u'a 1r1!i·lated tQ1 poU~:o in yeiolln"s; 1~ICKEB~ RepMblicam11s bE~loe1J~,m~ th m~f can de1usirn· rnssue T A p E INDIANAPOLIS- The ques :icn to acknowledged. "The 1·f. ~on RepubHcam did so • ,ii 'I I UW. Brian Vargus was simple: is there any 19 94 well is so many Dem1.Ji:r<1 1ts stayed hone. If there House• Speaker Paul polling data on how organized labor voted in the is a regular Democntk turnout or i1t goes high­ Mannweiler's insistence on - 1994 election? er than normal, there wiill be a whole: different Tue5daythat his proposal to redis­ The intent 111ras quite simple, mo.A dynamic." trid: the House to 99-seats 1s 'not week after 20,000 members and sympathiz,~rs ,:if Yet Witwer bdkves if GOP :legislative politic.al" rings abit hollow. Rumors organized labor protested the revamping ol' candidates "explain thdr stance on prevailing about redistricting began surfacing Indiana's 60-year-old preva:lmg wage: law, no wage, I think they wi 1 11 at argument:' attl1e Statehouse on the heels of one seemed to have any data on how 1:h<:1t might He noted tbait S!late Rep. Jeff Linder the two huge labor rall1 ~s Thi~ rea­ translate to the polls iln 1996. recently found hinm ff t:rlking to "a real angry son: it would allow the GOP to shore Vargus, who heads Indiana Unlversity's labor guy" at a pubhc 111r um. "Jeff sa:ld, 'I repre­ up seven districts vulnerable to a Public Opinion Laboratory, plowed tl1rolllgli hi~. sent you.I also repre:~( 1i1 the eldeirly citizen on a labor backlash. files, finally ending up with the Roper Crnt, .. r's set income.Am I suppo:;,~d to transfor that "America at the Polls in 1994." The demogrcipl· 1c money to you, or let tbd ~: elderly person keep The Feb. 8 edition of the Cook breakdown hit gender, education, race, 2.ge, rel.!· more of her money?"' Political Report speculated that U.S. gion, party ID, '92 votie -virtually every :;ocietal "Taxpayers. l/ll'i Ube better off by $300 Re11. Lee Hamilton's 9th CD seat subgroup except for "organized labor." million," Witwer said.' "Jr nese legisla1us who might be"open"in 1996 due to "That should speak v1olumes on the voted to revise prevalUngwage basically said 'I reti1·ement. But Hamilton aide press political clout of organized labor," Vargus S1tid. don't care whether I :io~1a~ my seat or nl)t.It's so Hol.ly Baker told HPR, "11·1 :i1 e "Most political scientists will tdl you l.~b Jr rote overwhelmingly cone ct."' abs:ilutely no indlc.ation that he is a thing of the past, m terms cf actL a: .: ~L l' 1::r ,. Bill Styring c I lhe Indiana P1olicy won't run." Baker suggested of votes." Review Foundation 1;:, 1.nid an essay on prevail­ Hamilton might have been fodder Many politkal analysts are not dis­ ing wage. "None of tbe ;ffguments for retaining fomtirement speculation be:ause counting the potential impact the preva in;~ Indiana's prevailing w< g ~law can stand scruti­ • "they always look that way a1 peo­ wage issue will have on the vote in 19 ~6 .. HF'R ny," Styring writes. H1 ', major pomts mclude: ple nearing their mid-60s." last week outlined seven Indiana House seat.s - 1111 Indiana Joe.all governmen!s spend where Republicans won with pluralities rar ging $1.5 to $2 billion in an average year on public Howard County Democratic from 1,457 to 7 votes - in communitks 1 l~a li1ad construction. Chairman DJ. Bolinger hc1s ruled a history of high labor involvement. 1111 Labor conit1mt ranges close to 50 out a5th CD run for 1996. H~s lool<­ "The Democ:rats' problem in the 1w percent of costs. ing at possible races in either'98 or election was pretty much turnout,'' Va ".5 i:s :~ c DJ Putting t 11,~ '>"olume and 1a.bor con­ '00. "But you have to look at Republican kac.m l:u1 p tent together "we find I rndiana tru.Tayers are on this prevailingwa.ge issue, ~~ven the buying something ar- ~ i: aching $1 billion per Democrat Jo111atltlan D.. Republicans poll coll1::ction :mthods. Th;y :rn't year in public constr w1: trnn labor subject to the Weinzapfel,a public relations seem very frightened:' prevailing wage law. managerforthe Old National Bank Indiana's economy is based on m~ 1'1'U .. l!1 Prevailing •,11ge represents a transfer in Evansville and aformer a1je to facturing, with General Motors as its ::~,3·ed of resources from taxp l) ers in general to union­ U.S. Rep. Frank McClt>s~:,e:1, 1s employer.But labor hasn't delhr1ered i1 :; nenber­ ized construction wo r l~ r :'"s, who, as a whole, have testing the waters in the 8th :o. ship at the polls - onlly campaign funds. "Tt.e higher incomes than t.: :rnayers. ISTA is a classic example," Vargus said. "Th 1 ~y [] Styring w1 :1, ·s that union officials The Chicago lffbune reported that were terribly ineffectual at C.ehvering 6 en argue that highly ski ~,~d workers can complete a during his trip to the Windy City last membership at the polls." week, Gov. aske,j project with fewer m :i1· hours. "This argument Republican gubernatoria] candidae defies all logic plus a g? 11:lt deal of empirical evi­ O'Hare Airport officials for aplace 1:0 George B. Witwer worked on lb~half of most cif jog.A special area was created for dence. If it really wer:~ ·r rue, union labor is lower­ the endangered Hous'~ Repubhcans identified. by the run, but officials were then told cost labor, when prnd111:1 ivity is taken into HPR last week with hiis Opportunity Prc~ec of the guv had c1anged his m11d account. If this were 1.1 uc:-, union firms would Indiana. "1996 will be a tough irear,'' Wi1we1· have a bidding advanta.g1e over nonunion firms". contmut'd on 1nge 5 • Pages of8 Thursday, March 23, 1995 TICKER COLUMNISTS 0 N IN DIANA T A p E

Don Kaul, Des Moines Register - (Richard nation's attention. It will be interesting to see State Rep. Craig Fry, D­ Lugar) is, in short, everything the American whether Lugar gets a gimmick and buys into the Mishawaka, may have set a new people say they want in a leader. So why does he entertainment side. standard for political crudeness. He have not a prayer of winning the Republican responded to seven-term Mitchell nomination, let alone being elected president? Tom Tuley, Evansville Courier - Since we fre­ Mayor Jerry L Hancock's letter in Several reasons. The television camera doesn't quently and without hesitation head for the which the mayor backed repeal of like him. He's not a bad-looking guy in person, woodshed with our representatives in the the prevailing wage. 0 Don't bother to but on the tube he comes across as a funeral Indiana legislature when we are unhappy with send me aletter ever again because I director who's telling you that there's this little their performance, it is only proper that we also don't represent Mitchell, Ind.," Fry problem: they seem to have lost the body of your send flowers when we are pleased. Today, bou­ began (Jack Colwell, South Bend loved one. He doesn't get the breaks. Losing out quets to Vaneta Becker, Greg Server and Larry Tribune).°Further, I don't like your to Quayle for the vice presidency is like finishing Lutz. What's important today is that Lutz, Ms. uninformed position on prevailing second to Roseanne in a Miss Congeniality con­ Becker and Server are standing up in the wage and IOSHA. I'm sick and tired of test. General Assembly, sending strong signals that small-town mayors like you express­ they will no longer be blindly controlled - ing opinions that lack understanding David Broder, Washington Post - Republicans ordered to be more precise - by the Indianapolis of the big picture." And Fry dosed his 0 and some Democrats are eager to "redress the power elite.Perhaps if they stand there long letter this way- Please leave me off balance," as they say, between the federal gov­ enough, others in the Legislature will recall that your Christmas card list, too!" Said ernment and the states. It needs redressing. But this body was never constructed as a monarchy, Hancock, "I dont send Christmas no one in either party except (HUD Secretary but, instead, an organization of citizen legisla­ cards.The postage is too high." Henry) Cisneros wants to talk seriously about tors entrusted and empowered with promoting redressing the balance between cities and sub­ the general welfare of Indiana. Legendary high school basketball urbs. Even Sen. Richard Lugar, who engineered coach Marvin Wood is seeking a the last city-county consolidation when he was Brian Howey, HPR- Now, the common man Republican seat on the Mishawaka mayor of Indianapolis a quarter century ago, might wonder why declarations have to be made Oty Council.Wood coached Milan HS says the federal government can offer little more some 14 months before the '96 Republican to the 1954 boys basketball title. In than "moral suasion" on that topic now.Lose gubernatorial primary. The reason is the 1990, he lost alegislative race to Fry. Cisneros and you lose HUD. Lose HUD, and let Republican primary will likely be a bruising the Republican Congress convert more and multi-candidate affair not for the faint of heart. Lugar campaign sources tell HPR the more federal programs into block grants for the A load of money will have to be spent just to nerve gas terrorist assault in the states, and the suburban-dominated state legis­ wrap up the nomination. Then there's Lt. Gov. Tokyo subway system Monday is a latures will steer those federal funds to their Frank O'Bannon, who will have the significant prime example of the kind of security own constituencies. fund-raising punch that comes when you've concerns that could thrust his presi­ been in the incumbent administration for eight dential campaign into acredible one. Sylvia Smith, Fort Wayne Journal-Gazette - years. "I think I made the right gesture," Early 0 lt's the kind of trouble facing the Perhaps the Lugar camp hopes to create a cult of said of his offer to make way for Quayle. "If he president over the-next two years Americans who find Lugar endearing despite wants to run for governor, just let me know." In and for Americans as we head into his elegant verbiage, his Victorian manners these somewhat bizarre times, when the O.J. the next century,"the source said .. (Newt Gingrich should find that appealing), his Simpson trial seems to permeate many aspects Lugar is the only candidate who has Boy Scoutness, his dignity, his ... well, dullness. of a baseball-less society, Early's is the plaintive emphasized foreign policy and secu­ It's not a far-fetched idea: Ross Perot and his wail of Hoosier politics. rity concerns. charts and ears and 78 rpm voice certainly grabbed attention in the last presidential cam­ The Sullivan Daily Times becomes the paign. But the difference between Perot and Ii 25th Indiana newspaper to publish Lugar, at this point, is that Perot did capture the Brian Howey's weekly political col­ T umn. ------···· Thursday, March 23, 1995 Page6 of8 McClos~1~e)r 1 01P1trn~:1~ 1 1rDs operrn um~til fmrrl~~; • sees 'bizarr1e si~·~~J1~~::r~tion' i~'D G~:::11 P ~~(~11,use

Frank McCloskey says he's been ir Mccloskey: The contract was nearly­ Washington as an a ~torney for Cohen & Ma l.1d, ! won't say totally - wa1 ~ ignificantlly to thor­ PC, almost as much as he was 'ill'hen he repre· oughly inconsequenli.L : s far as the election HPJR sented Southwestern Indiana's 8th CD. results were concem.:d .J think it had some 1 INTERV~E W Heis carefully watching his sui:ce~.s ()J, impact, but I don't tbirtk it was in tbe top five 11111111111 1 1 1.1, 1m1 Republican U.S.Rep.)ohn Ho~t~ttler, and k1:ep .. reasons why the Republicans moved Hke they I - inghis options open until this fall.fa the me:uI·· did. time, he's still involv·f:d iill efforts to get aid :rnd HPR: When did you sense that you relief to Bosnia, living in BloO]jiJngton, and were in trouble? '1' tell people i'hat commuting to Indialllapolis. McCloskev: I knew it colllld be very HPRran intitl McCfoskey on th ewes.t­ close weeks or montl:rn Ii efore the ekction. I was I 1vould decitle· ern steps of the State btouse du:ring th1~ h~ar, :b 14 in essence not shocke.] by losing, I knew that labor rally against mcinding the pre'!ailing intellectually and ps;r< H ilogically it 1:•1mld go al7salutely on wage statute. Then w1e caught up with him i;ilJl: either way.I figured 1JJlf of us would win 51-49 neut year's raife days later and conducted this telephone inter- rather than losing by 52··48. If anythilrng we had view: improved and built up 011 our performance in n1~ 1 late1than' HPR: What are your genera'! obsenr.a·· the last week or two before the electi(Jtn. We had 1 tions about the 104tb Congress, the '"Cor.itrai~t great media. In fact, we had a great month. It e.11/yfall.. eo ' with America" and the Republican RevC1lut: on was one of the best clo:~ing months l 1~ver had in • .. J~rank McCloike.y headed by Newt Gingrich, who, ironically, got ie1n an election. I think giveR11 Gingrich's masterly his leadership track due to his outrag.e ov,er ymiir negative tactics, the ds e of Rush Limbaugh talk controversial seating in 1985? radio, the beating th.11' 1Jiie crime bill took in con­ 0 ,r have foun!!tr Mccloskey: I'm starting to hear some servative districts, it J 1. '.· resulted in too much of mixed reviews on the contract OveraH, [ woukl the Democratic labc·r l.1.a.se staying home or

GJngrid11 to bd! say Gingrich and Co. were pretty shr:w1-. Nearly sending them into thf H1epublican camp. all of those items polled and tested p.retty wdL HPR: You 'l./1' ·f at the Sta1tehouse labor mo~tf om1e of the They did that beforehand. I think there's a .sen· rally last week. Is lab m neinvigorated·~ t1i;aboliGallJ' Md c!g·· era! feeling they've di:iine the easy stuff so fo: and Mccloskey: One of the conversational it's g1etting tougher now in some way:dt te;;ts themes gomg around 1h1~ two labor events at the aitive individue.a/s their sincerity. I don' I: know that now 1that the Statehouse is the fact tl:mt many of th,e guys are Republicans are in tlbe majority they an: m:1er .. saying they're going wltl1 the Demo1;rnts in '96; C!Ver lll' 0 I enco&f ested in term limits. Obviously GingricL ar d Co. that they're not going ·1 c, have a '94-type prob­ tered in publi(: are going to fight those variations of t·erm Umits lem. They're going to smy on point w11th their - legislation that wou11d call for any retrnac1ive leadership and the Dfmocratic Party. It's proba­ life. I will bt! SUll· compilation of service to the i:·~:tent u :1i th·~r bly going to be the c.1:;1;, but quite frankly, it's a p,rised ifhe is§ in could not run in '96. ][ don't see a lot of hope for long way to the elect10 ·1 and there could be a lot term limits. I don't think it's good poHcy any­ of issues and strategic:; ;oming up on all sides in tlle long run, " way. '96. But the message h 11 gotten out that, lo and HPR: All the contract calls for is c. vote behold, surprise, Re11 1.1) icans are J~oi11g to Sl'ICCeSSeo .." on the floor on issue~ such as term limits. behave like Republua].tl. You see them going 1 Mccloskey: That's reallv nia:. after prevailing wag1~ iru Indiana and Davis- -iFranlr McCla1J~key ' ' HPR: During your '94 campaign, did Bacon in DC. Gingricli :rnd my succe:;sor getting • you see the contract ms a strength for out there wanting to c.11 school lunches and food Republicans? stamps. ------·-----·------continued on page 7 Page 7of8 Thursday, March 23, 1995

HPR: How do you see Hostettler's stances to drive Wright out when, if anything, stance on food stamps and school lunches play­ Gingrich's book deal is bigger than anything ing in the district? ever thought about. If there's one McCloskey: I hear there's a lot of peo­ key watershed moment as to why we have TICKER ple expressing disappointment and lifting eye­ Republican leadership now it was the day Jim p brows and saying -I don't know what the word Wright resigned with a lot of Democratic com­ T A E would be - a bizarre situation. It's going to have plicity forcing him from Congress. That in to play out into the '96 election. essence was having Newt Gingrich naming the HPR: Are you looking at a rematch Democratic speaker of the House. Johnson County Prosecutor with Hostettler? HPR: This Congress began by voting Lance Hamner has closed an McCloskey: I'm not ruling anything in a number of reforms, such as members of investigation into Republican out. I'm keeping in touch. Whether l run or not, Congress having to live under the same laws Greenwood mayoral candidate I have friends all over the 8th District. I'm occa­ normal citizens do. Charles Henderson, aformer sionally going out to events. My main priority Mccloskey: That's fine. Ninety-eight police chief"I have agood reputa­ really has to be my professional life in percent was basically passed intact already any­ tion, and my integrity was ques­ Indianapolis and DC. I'm doing governmental way. I don't have any quarrel with that. tioned unjustly for political rea­ relations, trade and promotional stuff in HPR: Gingrich's book deal and the sons," Henderson told John Southesast Asia. I have some interesting work dealings of GOPAC - do you see the seeds for his Masson of the Daily Joumaf in to do. I'm starting to establish some reasonable downfall there? Johnson County."The charges economic prospects. I tell people that I would Mccloskey: Oh, I don't know. I'll be stemmed from allegations that decide absolutely on next year's race no later fairly plain-spoken and blunt. His corruption is city police officers were using than early fall. not in the book deals or PAC building. He truly garage facilities to work on their HPR: It's been said that instead of a has in a world of massive egos - and I wouldn't own vehicles, and how Henderson generational, eight- or four-year "disenchant­ say mine is minimal- he has the most massive used acity credit card. ment cycle" we're in a two-year cycle of change. restrained ego without any sense of his ov:n What are your thoughts? human proportion or limits. I think we have a Political observers in Lake County Mccloskey: Change has some healthy classic American political story in the making are saying former Judge Charles aspects. Obviously Republican majorities are there. 6raddock appears to have the responsible for the work product of the House. HPR: Rep. Hostettler has taken an ide­ momentum in the Gary They ultimately can't afford just to be negative ological stance on, for instance, the I-69 fund­ Democratic mayoral race.They or to be all things to all people. They're making ing. What are your thoughts on that? note his chief opponent State the decisions. It's on their backs. Working Mccloskey: Southwestern Indiana Sen. Earlene Rogers, has had Americans are going to see more than ever really needs it. Evansville needs it. All these little time to campaign due to the what their values are. I have been in various small and medium sized towns need it and not legislative session. encounters with Newt Gingrich over the years. just the counties that are immediately involved Chris Temet on Paul Helmke's As you know, his poll numbers are very low - on the route. It takes a congressman and a con­ mayoral campaign in Wayne worse than 's.I have found Gingrich gressional delegation to continue to push and Fort to be one of the most diabolically negative indi­ lead on that. So without a champion for it, and told HPR that the two-term incumbent wants to "lower viduals I ever encountered in public life. I will greater citizen involvement, we'll see the thing expectations"in orderto"build up be surprised if he is in the long run a success. fade indefinitely for years and some $30 million the race."The Helmke camp fears HPR: When you were seated by House allocated for continued work, planning, engi­ that 1f contributors don't see a Democrats in 1985 after your recount, it's been neering, environmental reviews, land acquisi­ race shaping up, the money won't said that Gingrich was so galled by that issue tion will be allocated for other priorities. So the flow properly."You want there to that it put him on a leadership track. highway really is on the drawing board. Serious be arace so he can articulate ahis McCloskey: It's one of the reasons and significant work is being done, but I don't accomplishments and vision." why he went after (House Speaker) Jim Wright. think Hostettler cares to be a champion of it. Helmke expects to face Wayne To me, Gingrich's real problem with Jim Wright HPR: Is that shaping up as a big issue Township Trustee Thomas was that he was looking at one of the best in '96? Essex, who first must win afive­ speakers in the history of the U.S. House. He Mccloskey: It's hard to say. It really is way Democratic primary."The had started to build a solid record of achieve­ a bipartisan issue. I don't want to see it as a silence is deafening over there," ment and Gingrich didn't want that to happen. partisan issue. Temetsaid. They exploited a particular set of circum- Page 8of8 Thursday, March 23, 19 95

ll:[ A··p1 Ci~ PERr.. rl., t.,J 01 (11·,.irnalists have been well stopped him. "Wherie's your ta:pe record1~r?" tbe taught in terms of pciHi:ics. "And thm's been a Indianapolis Democrat asked. decent job of teachir g tic urnalism. But they've Unger said he didn't need one. Jaobs' done a lousy job of t·: ·<1 l1ing the confluence of face lit up with a smile as wid~: as fu,e 1N3 J< sh. "I the press and politic.:;. Tl.tat is crucial:' Read Brian Howey's can tell you're an old pro;' Jacobs said. In a profes~ii:m where its stars have weekly column in To Unger, the opportunity was to gone after and brougbi L own the biggest power these great Indiana "share information'' with Jacob', as opp c1: 1ed 1iD brokers in town, Ung.en 1ees a probkm within newspapers "going for the heat" by documenting ev<'JY vm[d. the press corps simila[ to a calcified government Unger spok1;: to the Indiana Democ:ndc that brought on calls for term limits. "Most An!7ola Herald-Republican Editorial Association last wed:end iil this Erovm Washington reporten·s me as out of touch as Anderson Herald-Bulleti.~ County resort town. Working for suc11 5 rea·1 much of the governme111i11:'he said. "They live in the beltway bottle:' Aui1um Evening Star newspapers as the Cbkago Tribune and tlie Kansas City Star, the Sullivan, Ind., native i:; nc·w The consequie1nce is that ins :ead of sub­ Bedford nmes-Mail teaching at the University of Missouri at stantive reporting, V1l21:;bington beccimes a Bluffton News-Banner Columbia. process that is akin to "i1n on-going family spat" He portrays the Washington p:r,es~ reported as a torren11 (1if 'inconsequential BS:' • Bmzil nmes corps almost as an unfortunate chap·;er in '1fa "The proces$. 11J.f journalism; the Columbia City Post &Mall life - a kind of 'inimal House" in $300 ! uit »Vf:r­ process of news overshadows the pro.duct of the bal toga parties in the East Room in a c-u.lttu:e government of our nat 1c1n. The product gets Connersville News-Examiner where top network correspoml.ents hav1~ in j .. shoved aside:' he sru d (rG 1tbersville llmes mate relationships wlith key sources. Unger is ev m challenging .s~>me of the

1 major tenets of rep•o· r 11 ng, such as th~: newsroom Duatur Daily Demoaat "Why do Washington reportm acit :like such jerks?" Unger asked at one poin:. "Because taboo of reading a s! 01 y back to a source prior to Elkhart Truth they are:' publication, saying that many editors. are "isolat­ Fountain County Neighbcr "Ifs incredibly easY,'Unger sa.idl of the ed and out of touch:·· He did that as a young many national correspondent!. who form tlH: reporter in 1970 and '111ras told by an editor, FrG1nkfort Times media horde. "The Washingtc rn press 1:orps i.s "Nobody reads the Ckcago Trib1J1De before it hits Indianapolis Business Jm..1mal lazy. Most days they never venture oi.:.t .cif tt.e the streets!" office:' The news on any given day com 1~s frnm a At the time, I fr ger said, that admoni­ lncfianapo/is News culture where there me dozer.!. of pre·ss ruicle:s for tion got his testostero nE level up. But now he Kei7dallville News-Sun each reporter, feeding out the spm o: the d;i.y. pauses. "Where did wi: get the id1ea that we are so "Everybody gets the same ball of wa:::;' ~Tnger high and mighty? We ~;h ould be showing the Munde Evening Press said. story, defending the truth to our s om ces and Michigan Gty News-Dispatch He uses a:inther example: fae AP take it to the people, lrn1 with the subject having the chance to challe 1.• ~ ~ the story:' New Castle Courier-Times reporter who dashes to the ph{me after a: big news conference, yelling into the phcne the story The Firs Ulm t:ndment, Unger said, is Newton County Ente~'rise lead. "He doesn't need to shou1t;' Ung~r said. now feared by much cf ·1·he p~blic. l.il:tle wonder Peru Tribune "He's really yelling to the other reporte!s. He's a Harris Poll shows p 1. bic confidenc1e in news­ setting out the story line for that day:'· papers at 11 percenl (d~1 1 wn from 28in1979). • Shelbyville News He noticed over the years ho1w hii sto­ The First Arn c:ndment, he said, "was Sullivan Daily Times ries in the Kansas City Star didn't m

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