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Vol. 623 Thursday, No. 3 6 July 2006 DI´OSPO´ IREACHTAI´ PARLAIMINTE PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES DA´ IL E´ IREANN TUAIRISC OIFIGIU´ IL—Neamhcheartaithe (OFFICIAL REPORT—Unrevised) Thursday, 6 July 2006. Requests to Move Adjournment of Da´il under Standing Order 31 ………………1193 Order of Business ………………………………1195 Visit of French Delegation ……………………………1217 Order of Business (resumed) ……………………………1218 Business of Da´il………………………………1219 Child Protection: Motions ……………………………1220 Standing Orders: Motion ……………………………1221 Broadcasting Legislation: Motion of Instruction to Joint Committee ……………1221 Estimates for Public Services 2006 …………………………1222 Vote 40 — Health Service Executive (Supplementary) …………………1222 Disposal of Shares in Aer Lingus Group plc: Motion …………………1240 Ceisteanna — Questions Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism Priority Questions ……………………………1293 Other Questions ……………………………1306 Adjournment Debate Matters ……………………………1319 Adjournment Debate Farm Waste Management……………………………1319 Schools Building Projects ……………………………1322 Remedial Works Grants ……………………………1325 Social and Affordable Housing …………………………1327 Questions: Written Answers ……………………………1333 1193 1194 DA´ IL E´ IREANN Mr. J. O’Keeffe: The Deputy should withdraw his support for the Government. ———— Mr. Timmins: Where is the Minister for Arts, De´ardaoin, 6 Iu´il 2006. Sport and Tourism when the Deputy needs him? Thursday, 6 July 2006. Ms McManus: I seek the adjournment of the ———— Da´il under Standing Order 31 to raise a matter of national importance, namely, the alarming Chuaigh an Ceann Comhairle i gceannas ar MRSA infection rates and the emergence of 10.30 a.m. similar and potentially life threatening infections in our hospitals. ———— Mr. Gogarty: I seek the adjournment of the Paidir. Da´il under Standing Order 31 to raise a matter Prayer. of national importance, namely, the increasing MRSA infection rates in our hospitals and com- ———— munities and the need to put in place a national surveillance system for measuring the extent of Requests to move Adjournment of Da´il under health care associated infections to bring infec- Standing Order 31. tion rates under control. An Ceann Comhairle: Before coming to the Dr. Cowley: I second Deputy Finian McGrath’s Order of Business I propose to deal with a appeal to the Minister for Justice, Equality and number of notices under Standing Order 31. Law Reform regarding Peter Preston, who has been outside the Da´il for the past 44 days on Mr. Connolly: I seek the adjournment of the hunger strike. Da´il under Standing Order 31 to raise a matter of national importance, namely, the lending An Ceann Comhairle: The Deputy cannot go restrictions imposed on credit unions in the Cre- off on a tangent. He is messing with Standing dit Union Act 1997, which restrict lending to 20% Orders. If he does not wish to pursue his matter, of the union’s loan book over five years and 10% I will move on. over ten years; the consequent stifling of the cre- dit unions ongoing growth and development, Mr. F. McGrath: It is a serious situation. It has whereby their limited lending capacity may force been going on for 44 days. Get off the stage. many families with minimal equity to resort to moneylenders who charge exorbitant interest Dr. Cowley: I seek the adjournment of the Da´il rates; and a call on the Minister for Finance to under Standing Order 31 to raise a matter of level the playing field for credit unions by issuing national importance, namely, how AIB Wexford a ministerial order revising the lending restric- could overcharge a small business, Tweedswood tions upwards from 20% to 40% over five years Ltd. in Wexford, so much that it almost went into and from 10% to 20% over ten years. bankruptcy last week; that AIB has admitted this overcharging but disputes the amount of \460,000 Mr. F. McGrath: I seek the adjournment of the on foot of overcharging calculated by a specialist Da´il under Standing Order 31 to raise a matter company Bank-Check of Belfast and is offering of national importance, namely, the very serious \66,000 as the amount overcharged; to ask how condition of a hunger striker, Peter Preston, who much overcharging is going on and how this can has been protesting at the Da´il gate for many happen, despite legislation and a financial regu- weeks; the urgent need for the Minister for lator; whether legislation can be brought forward Justice, Equality and Law Reform to meet this to protect the citizen who has little remedy before victim of crime; and to urgently support this per- he can take action, as the courts and the Ombuds- son and his family in this urgent situation. man can take at least a year to deal with such matters; and the lack of independent audit of the Mr. Healy-Rae: I seek the adjournment of the banks to ensure they are accountable. Da´il under Standing Order 31 to raise a matter of national importance, namely, to appoint a tem- Mr. Costello: I seek the adjournment of the porary teacher to a school in County Kerry in Da´il under Standing Order 31 to raise a matter which 118 pupils will be on the roll on 30 of national importance, namely, the recent report September 2006 and which will have three classes that showed that Ireland was second from bottom with 30 or more pupils before amalgamating in in a league table of 26 European countries in the 2007. As a result the school will not be able to delivery of health services and particularly the make this appointment and, therefore, it needs to total failure of the Government to address the be granted a temporary appointment with effect ongoing crisis in accident and emergency units from 1 September 2006. throughout the country. 1195 Order of 6 July 2006. Business 1196 An Ceann Comhairle: Having considered the ance tell the House when it is expected we will matters raised they are not in order under Stand- discuss that? I raised this matter yesterday with ing Order 31. the Taoiseach and he personally did not have any objection to discussing it. The Minister for Order of Business. Justice, Equality and Law Reform was reluctant to allow any discussion on the Sullivan report, Minister for Finance (Mr. Cowen): It is pro- even within the committee being established to posed to take No a12a, motion re establishment deal with this matter. Will the House have an of joint committee on child protection; No. a12b, opportunity to discuss this report today? motion re membership of committee; No. 12, motion re Standing Order 121; No. 13, proposals for legislation on broadcasting — instruction to Mr. Rabbitte: I raised this matter on a number joint committee; No. 14, Supplementary Estimate of occasions with the Taoiseach. This issue con- for Public Services [Vote 40] — back from com- vulsed the country and it seems the Government mittee; and No. 14a, motion re proposed approval has deliberately contrived to hold over the Sulli- by Da´il E´ ireann of the disposal of shares in Aer van report until there is no opportunity for the Lingus Group plc by the Minister for Finance in House to debate it. People outside this House accordance with section 3(2) of the Aer Lingus have a genuine difficulty in appreciating why an Act 2004. issue which caused such tumult in the country It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in cannot be discussed in the Da´il before the sum- Standing Orders, that (1) the Da´il shall sit later mer recess. than 4.45 p.m. and business shall be interrupted I notice it is all over the newspapers this morn- on the conclusion of oral questions to the Mini- ing and that the Taoiseach was able to tell us the ster for Arts, Sport and Tourism, which shall be essence of the report as long ago as last taken for 75 minutes immediately on the con- Wednesday. This is in keeping with what hap- clusion of No. 14a; (2) Nos. a12a, a12b, 12 and 13 pened to the electronic voting report, where it shall be decided without debate; (3) the pro- was passed to the Minister, either knowingly or ceedings on No. 14 shall, if not previously con- otherwise, or perhaps because he was one of the cluded, be brought to a conclusion after 60 affected parties against whom adverse findings minutes, any division demanded thereon shall be were made. I do not know the rationale. taken forthwith, and the following arrangements The Taoiseach had the report and was able to shall apply: the speeches shall be confined to a tell us last Wednesday what is in it. His spin Minister or Minister of State and to the main doctors were able to tell whatever journalist is spokespersons for the Fine Gael Party, the covering the story for this morning’s newspapers Labour Party and the Technical Group, who shall what is in it. However, it is deliberately contrived be called upon in that order and who may share that it will be published to the Members of this time, and which shall not exceed 15 minutes in Da´il after the Order of Business. That is not each case; (4) the proceedings on No. 14a shall, if acceptable. not previously concluded, be brought to a con- I propose that, as the House is to conclude clusion at 4 p.m. today and the following arrange- business on No. 14a at 4 p.m., the Minister for ments shall apply: (i) the speech of a Minister or Finance agree to permit at least one hour for pre- Minister of State and of the main spokespersons liminary statements to be made in the House on for the Fine Gael Party, the Labour Party and the the Sullivan report and that Question Time be Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that taken after that.