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Paul F. Sanders Shows Findings To Support Share Your Beliefs About John Sanders of Weeke Favorite Story Several recent issues of Sanders They were John “Senior” of Landford Genealogy would get a little dull Siftings have had articles about the and the Hamlet of Weeke, Downton if all we did was spend time in Sanders or Saunders who settled in Parish, , , and John libraries, courthouses, and cemeter- Maine, New , and Massa- “Junior” of Weeke (bp. 1613). Other ies just to put names and dates into chusetts, but who may have been researchers rely on a “paper trail” and our computers (or notebooks). It’s improperly related or confused with one vital statistics whereby I have not only those extra little unexpected stories another—depending on which used some of the paper trail but also, I that come along the way that can researchers you listen to. First, in issue have included important information make this work so interesting. 33, some of the early research of Sarah about John Sa(u)nders’ life and his rela- Saunders Smith was printed, connecting tionships, geographical and social, with One such story that caught my eye the John Sanders of Weeke, Downton his relatives and friends, in England. was the “My Life” account of Grant Parish to Salem, Mass. Sanders that was shared over the Relationships. The close, geographi- internet by Glenn D. Sanders, Grant’s Next, in issue 34, Paul F. Sanders dis- cal relationship of John Saunders of grandson. It was the main story in cussed the relationship and added more Weeke, related families, and friends in the first issue of Sanders Siftings that from his research. In issue 40 we had an neighboring communities to Weeke in was published in April of 1995.. article detailing more about this John Wiltshire, England, help show the lives Sanders and a stone that was erected of two related John Saunders. Stories like that one can come commemorating his work in helping from similar autobiographies or from Local Maps. Maps of Downton establish the Weston Colony at Parish, Southhampton, and letters written in times past. Some Wessagussett, Mass. can be products of interviews done show how close to John Sa(u)nders’ while compiling an oral history of In the last issue, No. 43, we had an home at Weeke, Downton Parish, your family. article showing a different viewpoint, England, lived his relatives and friends, stating that the two John Sanders was as follows: We have printed stories like this in really a composite of three different, many past issues, but we have also 1) Hamlet of Weeke in Downton unrelated persons. This was put forth Parish (Saunders family), published an enormous number of by Ted Chadbourne and supported by queries. We need more stories that recent research by Barbara Brett Sanders. 2) White Parish (both Pike and Rolfe show that our ancestors were real families), people with problems, dreams, suc- Please refer to those past issues for the arguments put forth previously. 3) City of Salisbury, after which was cesses, failures, and fun times. named the Town of Salisbury, Mass., Also, you may have interesting Now comes a rebuttal printed below where John Sa(u)nders, Senior, daughter accounts of your genealogical pur- from Paul F. Sanders, 2680 169 Ave. SE, Sara, her husband Major Robert Pike, suits and travels that are insightful or Bellevue, WA 98008, . her parents lived; happenings in cemeteries? [Editor’s note: There will be a prize 4) Landford (Langford) (Longford Share your stories. Help us make of a lifetime subscription to Sanders Castle) (Gorges family). this hobby fun as well as productive. Siftings for anyone who understands all of this and can write a clear summary in 5) Landford Castle is next door to Maybe you have some good sug- 500 words or less explaining both sides where John of Weeke’s gestions for finding illusive Sanders or of the argument. Principals on either brother, Sir Richard Saunders, lived. Saunders ancestors, or even some side are not eligible, but I’d like to see 6) Landford to where John tales of how you “accidentally” found them try to do it in 500 words.] of Weeke’s second brother, William some important new information. Saunders, lived. THERE ARE JOHN SA(U)NDERS genealogy I don’t want to encourage the exclu- researchers who believe there were more 7) Barford (Cole family). sive use of the internet for genealogy than two, unrelated, adult John Sa(u)nd- Melchitt Park, White Parish and the research, but do you have some good ers in New England in the 1630s time Rolfes. Melchitt Park has been described web sites you’d like to share? period. My research so far (and it is not as an extra-parochial liberty in the Don Schaefer, editor finished) shows there were only two John Hundred of Alderbury (Allerbury), in Sa(u)nders and they were related. (Continued on page two) SANDERSSiftings No. 44 Jan/2006 Page 2 Will of John Sanders of Cape Porpoise, Maine, John Sanders of Weeke (Continued from page one) Reproduced From Book By Robert H. Sanders White Parish, nine miles southeast of Following is a will of John Sanders of deuided, amongst them, after thejr Salisbury, England. It was the home of Cape Porpoise, Maine, from the mother's decease, hereby makeing &. the Rolfes. Hester Rolfe became John Genealogy of the Saunders Family of Deer appoynting my dearly beloved Wife to Sanders’ 3rd wife in Salisbury, Mass. Isle, Maine and Essex County, bee my executrix & my sonn Thomas White Parish is close to Weeke, being Massachusetts and Related Maternal Sanders abouesd my executor / and this only two to three miles away. Lines, by Robert Henry Saunders of New my last will & Testament may in all The Saunders and Pikes. John York. N.Y., 1981, revised 2005: thinges bee accomplished & fullfilled Saunders, Senior, John Junior, daugh- In the name of god Amen/ the according to my true Intent and meane- ter/sister Sara, and Ales (Cole) Saunders, Thyrteenth day of June 1670: I john ing, I request my Loving Neighbours, John Senior’s 2nd wife, lived at Weeke. Sanders Senior of Cape Porpus in the Symon Booth of Winter Harbour & John The Pikes, John Pike, Senior, and son, County of Yorke in New England Barrett of Cape Porpus to take vpon Major Robert Pike, who married John Planter, being very sicke & weake in them to bee supervizers of the same. Saunders Senior’s daughter, Sara body but of sound & prfect memory John X Sanders Senjor Saunders, in Salisbury, Mass., lived in (prayse bee given to god for the same) & Witnessed by nearby White Parish. This makes me knowing the vncertenty of this life on Seth Fletcher/ wonder if Major Robert Pike and his earth & being desirous to settle things in Joseph X Cooles wife Sara Saunders knew each other order, do make this my last will & testa- marke before they emigrated to New England, ment in manner & forme following/ Acknowledged 24 June 1670, before she in 1638. They were married in That is to say first & principally, I Bryan Pendleton Commissioner; record- Salisbury, Mass., April 3, 1641. Sara commend my soule to Almighty god, my ed 13 March 1670-71; Inventory Saunders arrived in Salisbury in 1638 Creator hopeing & beliuing that I shall appraised at £139: 18:0, by Griffine after a voyage on the Confidence with her bee saved by the praetious death & mer- Mountegue and Charles Potum and brother John Saunders, Junior, Hester rits of my blessed Sanjor & Redemer returned by the Widow Ann Sanders 23 Rolfe, her parents, Sara’s uncle, John Jesus Christ, & my body to the earth Aug. 1670. Cole, and three of John Sanders, Senior, from whence I twas taken, to bee buried indentured servants. in such decent manner, & Christian, as Another Francis Sanders? Barford/Coles/Salisbury/Wells. to my executrix & Executor hereafter Barford is shown on the maps twice, named shall bee thought meete & Here was a reply on the internet when once as a village, about five miles west of Convenjent/ someone wanted information about a Salisbury and eleven miles north of Francis Marion Sanders who had ties to Weeke, and second as Barford Lane And as touching my worldly estate, as Arkansas and who married a Rachel the Lord in mercy hath lent mee, my will going north out of downtown Downton Baumgarner. Here is Gary Sanders’ (of about two miles from Weeke. & meaneing is the same shall be Denton, Texas) reply. Imployed & bestowed, as here after by Ales Cole selected St. Laurence this my will is expressed/ & first I do There were several individuals named Church in Downton, as the place for revoake renownce frustrate & make Francis Marion Sanders who lived in her marriage to John Saunders, Senior. voyd all wills by mee formerly made, & Arkansas in the nineteenth century. The Their marriage is recorded in the declare & appoynt this my last Will & one who was shot and killed by bush- church records which I and cousin testament. whackers on December 31, 1864 was Pauline (Holman) Hadley have seen. born about 1836 in Jefferson County, Item: I give & bequeath all my estate The church is only two miles from Illinois. He appears to have been the son Weeke. to Ann Sanders my deare & loueing of Moses and Gooley Sanders. He mar- wife, dureing her life, & at her decease I ried Malinda Jane Jones November 12, Also, John Saunders, Junior, age 25, bequeath thc house & Land belongeing: 1857 in Johnson County, Arkansas. He returned to New England on the & appurtenances there vnto, with all the served in the Confederate forces but it Confidence in 1638 with his “Uncle John priviledges & appurtenances there vnto appears he was pro-Union and served Cole,” Ales Cole’s (John Saunders’ sec- belonging that now I liue in unto my only under duress. He later joined the ond wife) brother. sun Thoms Sanders, & at his decease to Union Army and was killed while visit- Here, then, are three close connec- his sun John Sandes, & soe from heyre ing his family near Clarksville, Arkansas. tions between the Cole and the Saunders to heyre & next of kine surviueing the After his death his wife and children fled families—first, geographic (nearness of deceased proprietor; to Illinois. Further information about towns in England), second, religious Item I now do bequeath a Tract of him is in an article by Ron Eagan in the (marriage at St. Laurence Church, Land Wch I Judg to bee one thousand January 1996 issue of Sanders Siftings. I Downton), and third, as fellow passen- Acers more or lesse, being or lijng about have no information about whether he is gers on the same ship (Confidence, eight or nine Miles aboue Cape Porpus related to the Francis Marion Sanders 1638). River falls, vnto my son John Sanders to who married Rachel Baumgarner. To Two more relationships between the take possession of & Injoy at my add to the confusion, there was another John Saunders family at Weeke in decease. Francis Sanders with a wife Rachel—my Downton Parish and the Cole family of Item: I bequeath the rest of my estate g-g grandparents. They died in Arkansas Barford follow: vnto all my children to bee equallly about 1860. (Continued on next page) Page 3 No. 44 Jan/2006 SANDERSSiftings

(Continued from page two) where in England they came or whom Some of the Cole family moved 1) to Siftings Back Issues Available they married. On the other hand, we Salisbury, Mass. where John Sanders, Back issues of SANDERS Siftings have a wealth of information about the Senior, was one of the original twelve are available at $3.00 each. They are: life and geographic locations of John of founders, and 2) to Wells where John No. 2, July 1995 through No. 43, Weeke Saunders, the names of their Sanders, Senior, lived also. October 2005. If you order eight wives, his relatives the Coles, Pikes and Rolfes, and his business friends, the The Coles and Saunders were friends issues or more, the price will be $2.00 Gorges, all living in the same geographic since: per issue. area of England. 1) they lived in nearby communities, A copy of issue No. 1, April, 1995, will be included free with any For the above reasons, I lean heavily 2) attended the same St. Laurence order for back issues. toward agreeing with Sarah Saunders church where daughter Ales Cole mar- Smith in her Founders of Mass. Bay ried John Saunders Senior soon after his Colony that John Saunders of Weeke is first wife died. the same man as the John Sanders of the since he is also shown by some histori- 3) “Uncle” John Cole was on the Weston Colony (Weymouth, Mass., ans as “of Landford.” Confidence 1638 1622-3), Sanders Poynt (Rye, N.H., 4) Ales Cole’s brother, John Cole, also Now why is Landford an important 1623), Ipswich 1635, and Salisbury, had a lot in Salisbury, Mass., near John part of this puzzle? What is the connec- Mass.1639, Exeter, 1643, NH, Wells Sanders, Senior’s lot. tion? I think it’s because it was the 1645-1663, and Cape Porpus, Mayne, home of Sir Thomas Gorges and wife, 5) John Sanders, Senior, brother-in- 1663-1670. Newbury, Mass. (1642) and Hellena Gorges, parents of Sir law, John Cole, acted as a barrister in Hampton (1643) are still being Ferdinando Gorges, who became the some of John’s property transactions. researched. Lord Proprietor of the entire Province of Landford. I do not know the exact Salisbury, Mass. To me it’s black and Mayne and whose son, Thomas Gorges, connection between the Saunders of white that John Saunders, Senior, of granted 200 acres, consisting of two Weeke and Landford in England. I sus- Weeke is the same as the John Sanders beautiful beaches, a plum, in Wells to pect instead of owned by John Saunders, of Salisbury, Mass. since his daughter, John Sanders (Senior) in 1643. Sara, (and three indentured servants, of the 1100-acre Weeke Farm (later Also, Capt. Robert Gorges, a son of which two were Robert Ring and Roger reduced to the current 400) was leased Sir Ferdinando Gorges is the one who Eastman), came over on the Confidence from the owners at Landford, which is led 150 settlers to New England in Sept. in 1638, married Major Robert Pike and now called Longford Castle. Some his- of 1623. They settled on the very same settled closeby to her father in Salisbury. torians have said that after the fight with land purchased by and settled on by the Also, John Sanders’ wife Hester Rolfe’s the Indians at Wessagusett (Weymouth) Weston Colony, governed by John of father and mother, John and Joane March 1623, John Sanders went back to Weeke Saunders, and abandoned after Rolfe, settled only two lots away north England where he “owned a large the fight with the Massachusett Indians from son-in-law, John and daughter, estate.” I doubt that John was rich March 1623. This shows another con- Hester. Also, two (Roger Eastman and enough to have owned the estate but nection between the Gorges family of Robert Ring) of the three indentured rather leased it. Longford Castle is the Landford and John Saunders of the servants settled close to John and Hester seat of the Earl of Radnor. The current nearby Hamlet of Weeke. Sanders on Mudnock Road. Robert 400-acre farm of Wick (was Weeke) is Ring was only two lots away south. Also, one of the main roads through currently leased from the Earl of Radnor. Roger Eastman lived a dozen or more the town of Cape Porpus, where John John Saunders might have been assigned lots away northwest. Nearby Ring’s of Week Sanders died, is named by the then owners at Landford to man- Island in Salisbury was probably named Langford. Langford Road lead to the age the 1100-acre farm at Weeke for after indentured servant Robert Ring Langford House (Hotel) on the water- them. who purchased a couple of acres from front. Although this road was not built Gorges. A book about the Gorges is the Towne of Salisbury there. until the 1800s, it makes one wonder The Story of the Family Through Eleven after whom or after what the road and Landford/Langford/Longford Castle. Centuries or History of the Family of House were named and who named There is a connection between John Gorges by Raymond Gorges, 1944. them. Saunders, Senior, and perhaps John . On one of the three Saunders, Junior, with Landford. Some The above relationships among John maps, it shows how close Southampton historians have mentioned it. They Sa(u)nders, his relatives, and friends in is to Downton Parish. Historians write write....John Saunders (Senior) of Wiltshire lead to my conclusion that John Saunders left on ship such and “Landford.” They also write John there were but two John Sa(u)nders, such from Southampton, and that he Saunders (Junior) of “Landford,” indi- John Sa(u)nders, Senior, of Weeke, and later returned to Southampton. cating that John Saunders, Senior, either John Saunders, Junior, of Weeke and Southampton is the closest port to was born at Landford, lived there, was Salem, Mass. This agrees with the find- Downton Parish, Barford, White Parish, employed by the Gorges who lived ings of Sarah Saunders Smith in her and Landford. It would be relatively there, or had a business relationship book, Founders of Mass. Bay Colonies. easy for John Sa(u)nders, Senior, or his (lease of Weeke Farm and John Sanders People who write about additional son, John Saunders, to go from New Farm in Wells, Mayne) with the Gorges. John Sa(u)nders do not give us the dif- England to Southampton, then to Apparently, John Saunders, Junior, had ferent John’s parents names for our fami- some connection with Landford, too, ly trees nor any information about from (Continued on next page) SANDERSSiftings No. 44 Jan/2006 Page 4

What is the Relationship of These Sanders in Hempstead County, Arkansas? by Don Schaefer, editor house in Washington, Ark. It happens Sarah Virginia Sanders, the oldest Have you ever found other Sanders or that the Archeological Survey offices are daughter, married Augustus H. Garland Saunders in the same place as some of less than a half mile from my home in in the Sanders’ home 14 June 1853. your Sanders relatives? Right away, you Fayetteville, so I went to see Mary after Isabella married Capt. J. V. Thomas 14 think, “Are these people related?” Gary sent me some of her material. November 1861. Zenobia H. married Several years ago I requested a land I gave Mary some copies of the Col. John P. Bull 3 March 1864. Not bounty record for a Francis Sanders from Francis Sanders land bounty files and much is now known about Simon, Jr. Alabama who had served in the Florida she took me to the room where there Augustus Hill Garland, who married Indian War. It appeared that this might were artifacts from a “dig” at the Sanders Sarah Virginia Sanders, was a Union dele- be Francis Sanders, my g-g-g-grandfather. home in Washington. There were china gate to the State convention that passed After getting the land bounty records, it plates, pieced together, and silverware, the ordinance of secession in 1861; mem- became even more possible this was my among other things. She explained that ber of the provisional congress that met in Francis. He was the right age, according the Simon T. Sanders home had been for Montgomery, Ala., in May 1861 and sub- to the last census record of him in DeKalb many years identified as the Augustus sequently of the Confederate Congress County, Alabama in 1850. The applica- Garland home. Augustus Garland, an and served in both houses; elected to the tion had started in Marshall County, Ala., Arkansas governor and U.S. senator, United States Senate for the term begin- stating that he was a resident of DeKalb never lived in that house, but may have ning March 4, 1867, but was not permit- County. There was a surprise when I saw worked there studying law with his ted to take his seat, as Arkansas had not that Francis was in Hempstead County, father-in-law, Simon T., according to been readmitted to representation; argued Arkansas, when the bounty land was what Mary had found. the test-oath case as to lawyers in the claimed. Mary Kwas pieced together informa- Supreme Court of the United States and Now, we get to the other Sanders --- tion about Simon T. Sanders from sever- won it; followed the precipice of law until The Bounty Land Claim completed in al sources. First, there was an article the fall of 1874; Governor of Arkansas Washington, Hempstead County, Ark. about Sanders in the Arkansas Historical 1874-1876; elected as a Democrat to the was drawn up by Simon T. Sanders, the Quarterly (Vol. 39, p159) written by United States Senate in 1876; reelected in county clerk in Washington, Ark. It was Don Montgomery, an Arkansas Parks 1883, and served from March 4, 1877, to witnessed by J. J. Biddie and William employee who had worked at the park March 6, 1885, when he resigned, having Sanders. Were they related? in Washington, but now is at the Prairie been appointed Attorney General in the Cabinet of President Cleveland, and In an article in Sanders Siftings (No. 41, Grove Battlefield State Park, just a few miles west of Fayetteville. She was also served from March 9, 1885, to March 5, April 2005) by Gary Sanders, it becomes 1889; resumed the practice of law in clear that the William is William Patrick able to get some newspaper accounts and genealogical information from Gary Little Rock; died in Washington, D.C., Sanders, a son of Francis (and Rachel) January 26, 1899. Sanders, and the J. J. Biddie is the James Sanders and others. Here is a summary: Simon T. Sanders, with his long back- Jones Biddie (or Biddy) who married Mary SIMON T. SANDERS was born 16 April ground in public service and politics, very Jane Sanders, a brother of William Patrick. 1797 in Wake County, N.C., son of likely had a great influence on the distin- You will need to read the whole article, Hardy Sanders and Edith Turner. At age guished career of Augustus H. Garland. but the evidence is convincing. That 17 he worked in the North Carolina Simon T. Sanders died 10 June, 1882. leaves Simon T. Sanders. Is he related? Secretary of State’s Office, and later Now, we come to another question of We really have no evidence that he is, but became a private secretary to future N.C. the relationship of Sanders being in the let’s look at what we know about him. governor Montford Stokes. In 1828 he same county. Simon T. Sanders spent While Gary Sanders was running down moved to Denmark, Madison County, about five years in Madison County, leads in his research, another researcher Tennessee, where he was in the mercan- Tenn. There were other Sanders there at found him because of Gary’s many postings tile business. He married Zenobia A. the same time, possibly related. on the internet. Mary Kwas, a survey Meredith there on 15 June 1830. Some abstracts from the newspaper research associate with the Arkansas In 1833 they moved to Columbus, Archeological Survey, saw that Gary had were found in Family Findings, Vol. IV, Hempstead Co., Ark., and the next year No. 3, July 1972, p. 27-39, Vol. IV, No. 4, already put together some genealogy and moved a few miles to Washington, Ark. facts about Simon T. Sanders. Mary Kwas October 1972, p. 109. Copyright, Mid That same year Simon became the clerk West Tennessee Genealogical Society, was interested in Simon T. because she of the House of Representatives of the was doing archeological work on his old 1972— “Abstracts from Early Madison Arkansas Territorial Legislature. In 1838 County, Tennessee, Newspapers.” These he was elected the clerk for Hempstead can be found at . Downton, and then to Landford to con- Simon and Zenobia had three chil- [Because of space resctrictions there duct business with the Gorges, such as dren, Sarah Virginia (1835), Isabella W. is not room to print the newspaper obtaining patents for land or colonies in (1838), and Zenobia H. (1843). Simon’s abstracts concerning the Sanders in Mass. and Mayne, or to arrange for rela- wife Zenobia died in 1848. Madison County, Tennessee. They will tives and friends such as indentured ser- In 1852 Simon married Mrs. Martha be printed in the next edition of Sanders vants (Roger Eastman and Robert Ring) Cook. Martha died in 1855 while giving Siftings, or if you like, you can access to travel to New England. birth to Simon T., Jr. them at the web site listed above.] Page 5 No. 44 Jan/2006 SANDERSSiftings

Gary Sanders Traces the Civil War History of Isaac Sanders, Sr. Here is another product of research hundred or so who crossed the nied by some of the related Biddy and by Gary B. Sanders, P. O. Box 309236, Mississippi and fought in the battles in Lamb families who also had formerly UNT Station, Denton, TX 76203, other states only about a dozen survived fought for the Confederacy. Isaac’s eigh- . The the war. teen-year-old son Jesse joined the 4th Isaac Sanders, Sr. in the article is a broth- The nature of Isaac’s combat experi- Cavalry in February, 1864. Isaac himself er of editor Don Schaefer’s g-g-grandfa- ence is not clear, though it is known he enlisted at Dardanelle in Yell County in ther, John Sanders. John, of northern was a member of the Montgomery March, 1864. Alabama, fought for the Union in the County Hunters and Company F. We do According to the Edward G. Gerdes Civil War. Gary’s article follows: have a record that Isaac enlisted on Civil War in Arkansas Web page, I have been ordering several Civil War October 21, 1861 at Fort Smith http://www.couchgenweb.com/civilwar/, military records recently. The most Arkansas, and that he was furloughed quoting from a contemporary account of important recent find is that not only did from December 17, 1861 to March 1, the 4th cavalry, Isaac’s unit was involved my grandfather serve in the Union army, 1862. Apparently, he returned to duty in the skirmish at Dardanelle on May 17, but his father Isaac also served. Anyway, with pneumonia because in April, 1862, 1864: here is a brief summary of what I now he was released from duty. His dis- “At that date Dardanelle was attacked know about Isaac’s war record: charge paper states that “the within by Shelby in the night with 2,000 men When the war began my great grand- named Isaac Sanders, a private of and four pieces of artillery. The com- father Isaac Sanders was living near Captain John M. Simpson’s company of manding officer of the post had ordered Mount Ida in Montgomery County, the 4th Arkansas Regiment of Arkansas the camp equipage across the river and Arkansas. He had three sons already of Volunteers, born in Randolph County in at the time of attack, it was slowly cross- military age, and one, Jesse, my grandfa- the state of North Carolina, age 44 ing in a single flat boat. Capt. Wood, ther, who would become old enough to years, five feet nine inches high, fair Co. G, in charge. The town was held serve during the war itself. complexion, blue eyes, sandy hair, and until it was completely surrounded and The sentiment within Mount Ida was by profession a farmer, was enlisted by for nearly two hours after it had been overwhelmingly in favor of secession, and Major G. W. Clark at Fort Smith, Ark. abandoned by the post commander. All those who had doubts were too intimidat- on the 21st day of October 1861 to serve records of the company were lost, except ed to protest. On July 17, 1861, a unit one year and is now entitled to a dis- for copies of muster-in rolls found in the called the “Montgomery County Hunters” charge by reason of chronic pneumo- Adjutant General’s Office. Some of the was organized. It would later be designat- nia.” His son Aaron enlisted on men escaped by swimming the river and ed as Co. F of the 4th Arkansas infantry. November 21, 1861 at Fort Smith and some by cutting their way through The small rural community celebrated the was present on December 31, 1861; his enemy’s lines. Many of the men report- occasion with a home made drum and fife son Benjamin enlisted on October 21 ed missing in action are in the woods show using improvised instruments and 1861 at Fort Smith and was with near Dardanelle, unable to rejoin the joints of sugar cane stalks. Their collect- Humphries’ battalion at Shelbyville, regiment on account of guerillas.” ed baggage consisted of bed quilts, pots, Tennessee on April 29, 1863. His son The official military record of Isaac’s skillets, coffee pots and other household Isaac, Jr., enlisted on October 21, 1861 service indicates that he was listed as items, all drawn by yokes of oxen. Their at Fort Smith and died on January 10, “missing in action” during the skirmish. weapons of war against the Yankee 1862 from illness or an injury. What happened to him immediately invaders were old squirrel rifles and dou- By June 4, 1863 Isaac, Sr., was back in afterwards is not clear, though we know ble barreled shotguns. Montgomery County because he signed that he survived the battle and lived for The leader of this group, Captain John up for Earnest’s local defense company, at least another sixteen years. Maybe he Lavender, would later write a book about which was established to defend the escaped from the woods and joined his war experiences, The War Memoirs of home front. Apparently, this was the some other unit to continue fighting the Captain John W. Lavender, C.S.A. (W. M. only unit of its kind in the state. Isaac’s war; or maybe he, like many other sol- Hackett and D. R. Perdue Publishers, the son Aaron was a first sergeant in the dier-farmers of the time, went home to Southern Press, Pine Bluff, Arkansas, same company and Isaac’s seventeen- Montgomery County to take care of his 1956). He wrote, “we was in high spirits year-old son Jesse appears for the first family’s needs. and no one complained fearing he would time in the war records as a private if the Sometime between 1865 and 1870 be accused of being a coward or playing “J. Sanders” who appears in the company Isaac and his family moved back to the baby act..” The company was mus- roll is the same person as Jesse. Booneville in Tishomingo County (now tered in Missouri and participated in the In the fall and winter of 1963-64 most in Prentiss County), Mississippi, where battles of Elkhorn, Richmond, Perryville, of the Sanders family in the Montgomery they are enumerated on the 1870 and Murfreesboro, Chickamauga, Georgia County area appears to have switched 1880 censuses. campaign of 1864, Franklin, and sides from the Confederacy to the Union Nashville. There were some changes in forces. Whether this was from convic- From Helen Hanley, 920 Mallory the organization of the company during tion, expediency, or for economic con- Road, Knoxville, TN 37919, . Does anyone have informa- many of the original men who joined in William Patrick Sanders and two of his tion on Edward (Eddie) A. Sanders, b. July of 1861 survived the war, but sons joined 4th U.S. cavalry in 1899 or 1900 in Tennessee? Last known Lavender later estimated that of the one November of 1863. They were accompa- home was in Cookville, Tenn. SANDERSSiftings No. 44 Jan/2006 Page 6

ASSORTED QUERIES . . . 5. Benjamin Sanders and Mary Davis 6. Benjamin Sanders and Ann From Earl H Taylor, 2060 7th St., La 40 (William), one male 80 to under 90 Wheaton Verne, CA, 91750-4411, . My grandmother was eran), and one female age 30 to under Kesiah Bunn Rebecca Anne Vickers, a descendant of 40 (William's wife). By 1850, William 8. Hoton/Horton Sanders and Sue Joshua Saunders through James Vickers and his family have moved on, leaving Palmer (Michigan) who married Elizabeth Saunders. I have three sons behind: Wm. Jr., 18, (born in 9. LeRoy Sanders (I think he was the three generations of Sanders/Saunders: Coatesville, Pa.), a carpenter’s appren- first to go to Snohomish Co., Wash.) Daniel; Joshua, b. 1749 Charlestown, R.I. tice for Washington Hinkson in and Mary Taylor; Lymon Sanders and Middletown; Henry, 19, a farmhand on 10. Owen Sanders Elizabeth Bagley; Elizabeth Saunders and the Elton Lewis farm in Nether 11. Jack Sanders James Vickers. The Mary Taylor who Providence Township; and James, 17, in 12. Jack Sanders living in Washing- married Joshua was from another line of the South Ward of Philadelphia, appren- ton (age 2; he befriended my mom who Taylors in Rhode Island, not mine. ticed to Edmund Elliot as a carpenter. I was 100 this year when she died) so I ______assume that William Sr. was also a car- tried very hard to work on this line. Got penter. Does anyone have any informa- some wonderful help with the census Jeanne Folck, P.O. Box 171, Unity, tion as to where William Saunders may from some folks on the Godfrey OR 97884, . I have come from, and where he may have Memorial Library mailing list to cut am a direct descendent of Azariah gone to? His wife's name? through the census data in Michigan Sanders, b. abt 1770 probably in ______and Seattle, Wash. Those are two good Kentucky and Zephora Richardson, b. web sites for archival data if anyone abt 1775 in Maryland. My g-g-grand- Theresa Hammond, 1815 Oak Ridge wants them. With the help of this list I mother is Mary Ellen Sanders who is Road., Oak Ridge, NC 27310, was able to find census information to Azariah and Zephora’s g-granddaughter. . I am illustrate the descendants of Ben and Zephora is the daughter of John researching the Thomas Sanders (1779- Ann through New York, Vermont, Richardson and second wife Sarah. 1854) family of Oak Ridge, Guilford Co., Michigan (some of the preliminary work What was Sarah’s last name? Was Sarah N.C. I have information for three genera- in Michigan had been done) to Cherokee? Family tradition says tions of ancestors (Joel, John, John), but Snohomish County in Washington Azariah was English and of the Quaker I’ve been stymied by tracing some of his where Jack Sanders, age 2, lives. faith. He managed an Indian trading descendants’ paths. The children’s names If you see any errors in my logic, post and was Indian commissioner in are: Elizabeth (c.1804-1847, m. Chas. G. please let me know. The hardest part was Hardin Co., Kentucky. Saunders 1837), Ann (c.1806), Polly (c. connecting Ann Wheaton and Ben ______1808-1832), John (c. 1809 “went to Sanders to the next generation but I Alabama, married Patience Givens; after- think with the data from rootsweb and Joe L. Sargent, 14 Blue Hill Road, Los wards went to Texas where he died”), Lunas, NM 87031,. John Sylvester Sanders (c.1813, m. Ed Givens 1837, lived in La. was born in Ark. 23 Sep 1890, he died conjecture and I would appreciate some- and Ala.), Thomas (c.1815, m. Laura one else pointing out the errors. Other 30 Mar 1928 and he is buried in Geary, Wilson in 1850), Caroline (1818, m. Okla. This is what I’m not real sure of. lines I have worked on for my own fami- Chas. G. Saunders 1849, had three kids, ly have involved Sanderson name as well; Supposetly his parents are buried next to lived in Lincoln, La.), Priscilla (c.1822). him: (father) James E. Sanders, born 14 at least this time it was only Feb 1859, died 2 Feb 1901; (mother) I also do not know his wife’s maiden Sanders/Saunders with an occasional mis- Susan A Sanders (maiden name could name, but she was referred to in histori- spelling or leaving off the final “s,” etc. have been Combs), born 15 Aug 1865, cal documents as Mary “Betha,” and as ______died 3 Jun 1951. There is another “a Pierce from South Carolina.” She and Thomas are buried near our house. Hal McCawley 4789 Pindar Way, Sanders buried there also who might be a Oceanside, CA 92056, . Hal’s line follows: born 20 Oct 1884, died 21 Mar 1966. ______John S. Sanders is my g-grandfather. Descendants of James Albert Sanders Would be nice to verify this information. Jean Sanders, 154 Morgan Drive, James Albert Sanders, b. bet 1819 - ______Haverhill, MA 01832-1295, is trying to follow this family 1864 in Sarcoxie, Jasper Co., Mo; mar- Kelly O'Leary, 25311 63rd Ave., from the east coast to the west coast. ried Leah Virginia Wilson, b. 1823 in Mattawan MI 49071, is seeking information on the fol- 1. John Sanders and Hester Rolfe lowing William Saunders who appears, Oct 1845 in Kanawha Co., W.Va. Their (early emigrants to northeastern coast of children were: for the first time, in the 1840 Pennsyl- Massachusetts/Maine) vania census, Delaware Co., Middle- 1. Charles Benjamin, b. 2 Feb 1846 in town Township. In the household are 2. James Sanders and Sarah Page Kanawha Co., W.Va., d. 27 Jan 1902 in two males age 1 to under 5, two males 5 3. John Sanders and Mary Sargent Madill, Marshall Co., Okla.; m. Sarah to under 10, one male age 30 to under 4. Jacob Sanders and Ann Barney Lora Dillard, b. 30 Aug 1871, d. 27 Apr Page 7 No. 44 Jan/2006 SANDERSSiftings

1902 in Madill, Marshall Co., Okla.; m. Polk Co., Tenn., d. 2 Jun 1942 in 1886 in Jacksboro, Jack Co., Texas Wainwright, Muskogee Co., Okla.; m. 27 Bettie Kilgore is Searching 2. John William, b. 8 Jan 1850 in Nov 1879 in Vinyard, Jack Co., Texas Two Lines of Sanders Kanawha Co., W.Va., d. 25 Jul 1936 in I would like to correspond with any- Clovis, Curry Co., N.M.; m. Sarah one of this Sanders line. My Sanders From Bettie Kilgore, 208 Elizabeth Foutch, b. 4 May 1852 in were also in the Springtown, Parker Co., Esmeralda Drive, Santa Cruz, CA Lincoln Co., Tenn., d. 28 Feb 1928 in Texas and Jacksboro/Vinyard, Jack Co., 95060-1918, . Clovis, Curry Co., N.M.; m. bef 1874 in Texas areas from 1870s to 1900. I have two separate Sanders lines I Texas. ______am researching. First is my line, starting with Elijah Sanders, b.1779; 3. James Albert, b. 2 Sep 1857 in From Joy Durrett, 814 Grant Avenue, then Elihu D. Sanders, b. 1814 Sarcoxie, Jasper Co., Mo., d. 25 Jun Medford, OR 97501-3406, . I am looking for the par- James Crawford Sanders, b. 1837, d. Adeline Dillard, b. 20 Jul 1861, d. 25 ents of Abner Sanders born abt 1810 in 1897, m. Elizabeth Caroline Apr 1904 in Ardmore, Okla.; m. 2nd Virginia, d. aft 1841 in Gasconade, Marcrum. They had these children: Zella, d. in Miami, Ariz. Osage Co., Missouri, m. on 7 Aug 1828 Leanna Lucinda (my great grand- 4. Mary Katie, b. 15 Aug 1861 in in Franklin Co., Virginia Polly Gilbert mother), James Franklin (this is the Sarcoxie, Jasper Co., Mo., d. 16 Feb 1932 (her first name may have been Mary) b. one that was murdered), Elihu in Wainwright, Muskogee Co., Okla.; m. abt 1811, d. aft 1840. Children of Abner Daniel, Elias Franklin, Benjamin William Jason Young, b. 27 Apr 1857 in Sanders and Polly Gilbert were: Holloway, Charley Vance, Arrilia, William Harrison Sanders, b. 15 May Sedalia, Pitts, and John Jasper. Ilene Jones Finds Patriot 1831 in Mo., d. 16 Mar 1881 in Texas, This is my husband’s line: John From Ilene Jones, 9319 Admiral buried at Lyons Cemetery, Dallas Co., Sanders, d. about 1875. m. Lucinda Lowell Place, Albuquerque, NM 87111- Texas, m. on 19 Feb 1852 in Osage Co., Johnson. Their children were: Al, 1263, . I just Mo. Elizabeth Ann Quick, b. 27 Aug Bill, Belle, and Lucinda Eveline (my received your Sanders Siftings (Oct. 1833, d. 9 Dec 1899 (One or both of husband’s g-g-grandmother), b. abt. 2005). I saw the list of Sanders Rev. War them were Native American) (My hus- 1868, m. 1st Robert Green Bice, b. Soldiers sent to you by Dorothy Hughes band’s grandparents) abt. 1850, m. last Zacharia Fanning. from the Rev. War pension files. I have Jesse James Sanders, b. abt 1833 in I am looking for any information just recently been able to prove another Gasconade, Osage Co., Mo., d. aft 1880 on either of these families. Sanders which was not listed. The DAR in Texas?, m. on 31 May 1855 in Osage # is 751581, Supplement A854. Co., Mo. Sarah (Sally) Ann Quick, b. aft Robert Sanders, b. abt 1735/1740 in 1836, d. aft 1880 (Elizabeth Ann Quick Goochland Co., Va., d. 1780/1782 in and Sally Quick were sisters.) (m. Matthew Gray), John Merrell (m. Wilkes Co., N.C. He was a patriot, serv- Abner John “AI” Sanders, b. abt 1838 ____ Adams), Orinda (m. Charles ing as a constable 1778, assessor 1777, in Osage Co., Mo., m. on 14 Oct 1858 in Emerson), and Abedinago Jr. (m. Harriet road builder 1777, 1779, juror 1778, Osage Co., Mo. Mary Jane Quick (sister Shank). Around 1818 Abedinago and grand jury 1778. He was married to of Elizabeth Ann Quick and Sarah his family moved to Rockcastle Co., Ky. Ann Elmore. Robert was a son of a John “Sally” Ann Quick.) About 1825, he moved to Delaware Co., Sanders, b. abt 1710 whose grandfather Mary A. Sanders, b. abt 1839 in Ind. and some of his children went with was probably another John Saunders, b. Gasconada, Osage Co., Mo., m. on 21 him. I have a lot of info on this line of about the mid 1600s and married Sarah Apr 1858 in Osage Co., Mo. Carl Henry Sanders, but a lot of blanks. Hardgrave. He may have also been mar- ______Hubler. ______ried to a Mary Risle. They were in the York Co., Va. area. This John died 1701, Tim Mattingly, 3602 Columbus Ave., Judy Saunders, 26 Belmont Street, but his birthdate is not known. Maybe Anderson, IN 46013, Just thought I would . I've been this John. The line goes John, b. mid- shake the genealogy tree and see if any trying, unsuccessfully, to find out infor- 1600s, m. Sarah Hardgrave and Mary new information was out there. My line mation on my paternal grandfather, Risle. It is not known which is the starts with Abedinago Sanders (abt Alfred Robert Saunders. His father was mother of the children: Christobel, 1776-7 May 1835) born and raised in Alfred George Saunders and his mother John, Robert I. (b. abt 1685), George (b. Guilford Co., N.C. area, married Amy was Louisa Pinnick. I don't have any abt 1707), Hargreave (b. abt 1709), Cook (abt 1789 - Oct1869) on 11 Aug other information on them. Alfred Peter (b. 1711), Sarah b. 1713), and 1802 in Wilkes Co., N.C. Abedinago’s Robert was born in Surrey, England in Susanna (b. 1715). children were: Elizabeth (m. James 1876 and he came to the United States Robert I.’s wife is unknown. They had Sisk), Mary Ann (m. Joel Adams), Wyatt (New York) in 1888 with his maternal a son named John II who married Sarah (m. Susan ____), Jane/Janie (m.George Aunt Emma Pinnick. I believe he was in Cox. Their child was Robert the Rev. Leaky), Aaron (m. Sarah Edmonson and Brooklyn, New York in 1898 working as War veteran who married Ann Elmore. Nancy Smullen), Matilda(m. Francis A. a pipefitter. He married Mary Jane They also had a son John, b. abt 1772 in Gravatt), Sarah Caroline (m. Joseph Dickens and they settled in Bridgeport, Cabarrus Co., N.C. He married Nancy Sisk), James (m. Phoebe Rector), CT in 1910 and they had 8 children. Triplett 1787 in Wilkes Co., N.C. William (m. Nellie ____), Margaret A. Alfred died in 1924. SANDERSSiftings No. 44 Jan/2006 Page 8

About This Issue Romulus M. Saunders Was a Public Figure In Not much has changed concern- United States and North Carolina Politics ing the need of material for this The following is taken from several members of the convention were made newsletter since the last issue. As far biographical sketches in Wikipedia, the necessary for a nomination. The adop- as I know, all queries received by free encyclopedia. tion of this rule resulted in the defeat of December 27 have been used. Let ROMULUS MITCHELL SAUNDERS was Martin Van Buren for the nomination and me know if I missed yours. born 3 March, 1791 near Milton in the selection of James K. Polk. I still need good stories about Caswell County, North Carolina, the son He continued in Congress until 1845, Sanders or Saunders people such as of William Saunders and Hannah when he was appointed minister to articles from family histories, biogra- Mitchell. Spain. He was especially directed by phies from county histories, or obit- His uncle, James Saunders, represent- President Polk to negotiate for the pur- uaries. I especially need queries. I ed Orange County in the Provincial chase of Cuba, and was authorized to need more queries from subscribers! Congress of North Carolina which met at offer $100,000 for that island. He Review your research and see if you Italifax, 4 April, 1776, and also in the returned home in October, 1849, and can put together a new query. congress held at the same place, 12 was elected to the House of Commons I still have several articles of vari- November, 1776, and was appointed from Wake County in 1850, where he ous sizes left over, but prefer to have colonel of the northern regiment of his was involved in securing the construc- a good back log. county. James’s younger brother, tion of the North Carolina Railroad, in I need more stories of various William, the father of Romulus, was an the reconstruction of the Raleigh and lengths, wills, your genealogy officer in the North Carolina line. The Gaston Railroad, and in the development odyssey, old letters, great research son was educated at the University of of internal improvements by the state. ideas, obituaries, etc. Keep sending North Carolina, studied law in He was elected judge of the superior in products of your research, but I Tennessee, and was admitted to practice courts in 1851, and one of the commis- need quite a few short items. Also, in that state in 1812. Having been sioners to revise and codify the laws of more good pictures are needed to adopted by his uncle James on the death the state. He served as judge until 1865, support stories. Think about the of his father, he returned to North when he was deposed by Governor kind of things you like to read here, Carolina and was elected to the House of William W. Holden. He served on the and send similar stuff. Commons from Caswell County from University of North Carolina Board of Trustees for forty-five years. It will be very much appreciated if 1815 till 1820, serving as speaker of the you send me your queries and other house in 1819 and 1820. In 1821 he was Saunders first married Rebecca Peine material via e-mail. Send it to me at elected as a democrat to Congress, where Carter 27 December 1812, and they had . If you can’t e- he served until 1827, and in 1828 he was five children. After her death, he married mail, send cleanly typed copy. I can chosen attorney general of the state. Anne Heyes Johnson 26 May 1823 and scan it with OCR software and a In 1833 he was appointed by President they had at least four children. He died 21 scanner to save time. Whichever is Jackson one of the board of commission- April 1867, and is buried in the Old City okay for you—but send me something! ers to decide and allot the amounts that Cemetery, Raleigh, North Carolina. If you are reading this in a library were due citizens of the United States for injuries by France, as settled by the treaty or from another person’s copy and Mary Lu Makes Connection you are not a subscriber and have of 4 July, 1831. In 1835 he was elected never received a complimentary copy, by the legislature as judge of the superior The following was received from send me a query, with your U.S. mail courts, which post he resigned in 1840 to Mary Lu Sanders, 5203 Fieldbrook address. I will send you a free sample become the candidate of the democratic Drive, Greensboro, NC 27455-1119, copy that includes your query. party for governor, but he was defeated . E-mail addresses of contributors by John Moorehead. “Hi, Don - I just received my October are listed right after their regular In 1844 he was again elected to Sanders Siftings (thanks for printing my mailing address in these signs < >, if Congress, and in the Democratic items!) and lo and behold Dee Couvillon the person has an e-mail address. National Convention of that year he was looking for Namun Sanders! Poor This newsletter was done in introduced the celebrated two-thirds rule, Nahum, his name has been listed in vari- QuarkXPress 5.01 on a PowerMac by which the votes of two thirds of all the ous documents, transcriptions and G4 computer and output is on a genealogical listings as Nahom, Norman, Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 2200D. Nathan, Naaman, plus Sanders, Saunders Text type is 10 pt. Berkeley Medium Is This Your Last Issue? and Landers! I had the names that Dee on 11 pt. line spacing. Display type If the address on the envelope in listed in my database as far as John is Berkeley and Opine Heavy. which your newsletter was mailed has Alexander Wilson and sent Dee a PDF Scanning is done with a Microtek this—Jan 06, your subscription ex- lineage chart showing the connection ScanMaker IIHR using ScanWizard, pires with this issue. Renew now if between her John Wilson and Nahum. PhotoShop, and OmniPage Pro. this is your last issue, by sending $12 “It’s always great to find a connection! The envelopes are addressed on for another year’s subscription. Please And, thanks to your efforts, Dee and I the HP LaserJet 2200D printer. include your current e-mail address. have found one. “Mary Lu” Sanders Siftings

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