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Vol. 961 Tuesday, No. 1 7 November 2017 DÍOSPÓIREACHTAÍ PARLAIMINTE PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES DÁIL ÉIREANN TUAIRISC OIFIGIÚIL—Neamhcheartaithe (OFFICIAL REPORT—Unrevised) Insert Date Here 11/2017A00100Leaders’ Questions � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 2 07/11/2017J00100Order of Business � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 11 07/11/2017Q02500Terms of Reference of Select Committee on Rural and Community Development and Fourteenth Report of Com- mittee of Selection: Motion � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 26 07/11/2017Q02800Finance Bill 2017: Financial Resolutions � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 26 07/11/2017Q03200Cabinet Committee Meetings � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 27 07/11/2017S03850Brexit Documents� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 33 07/11/2017U00400Topical Issue Matters � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 37 07/11/2017U00700Ceisteanna - Questions (Resumed) � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 38 07/11/2017U00900Departmental Agencies Reports � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 38 07/11/2017W00450JobPath Programme � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 41 07/11/2017X00600State Pension (Contributory) Eligibility � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 44 07/11/2017X01600One-Parent Family Payment Eligibility � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 45 07/11/2017Y01175Other Questions � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 48 07/11/2017Y01200Social Welfare Benefits � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 48 07/11/2017Z00550Unemployment Levels� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 50 07/11/2017AA00200Pension Provisions � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 53 07/11/2017BB00050State Pension (Contributory) � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 56 07/11/2017BB01150Legislative Programme � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 57 07/11/2017CC00100Citizen Information Services � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 59 07/11/2017CC00800State Pensions � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 60 07/11/2017DD00250Working Family Payment � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 62 07/11/2017DD00650State Pensions � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 63 07/11/2017DD01500Topical Issue Debate � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 65 07/11/2017DD01550Care Services Provision� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 65 07/11/2017FF00250Primary Care Centres � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 67 07/11/2017GG00500Planning Guidelines � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 70 07/11/2017HH00600Housing Provision � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 74 07/11/2017JJ00400Water Services Bill 2017: Order for Report Stage � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 77 07/11/2017JJ00700Water Services Bill 2017: Report Stage � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 77 07/11/2017ZZ00200Private Rental Sector Standards: Motion [Private Members] � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � 112 DÁIL ÉIREANN Dé Máirt, 7 Samhain 2017 Tuesday, 7 November 2017 Chuaigh an Leas-Cheann Comhairle i gceannas ar 2 p�m� Paidir. Prayer. 11/2017A00100Leaders’ Questions 07/11/2017A00200Deputy Micheál Martin: Today again witnesses huge disruption for up to 155,000 pas- sengers on our railway system, the DART and so on� These are people going to work and to hospital appointments on intercity routes� This huge disruption is not good for our economy� The rail workers have not had a pay increase in ten years� They do not want to be on the picket line and they are very anxious for an orderly, proactive resolution of this dispute� The origins of and background to this lie in a lack of proactivity from Government, in particular the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, in regard to public transport policy in general and in terms of investment in our railway system� In the aftermath of the bus strike the Minister made serious commitments to convene a stakeholders’ forum involving the Na- tional Transport Authority, NTA; his Department, Irish Rail and the unions, but it was never convened� The whole idea was to try to prevent the industrial relations turmoil that, sadly, has been too much of a feature of the public transport system in the past two years� I would like to know why the stakeholders’ forum has not been convened� A national rail review was initiated 12 months ago and submissions were sought from ev- eryone� Political parties made submissions, as did various interested bodies, but the review has never seen the light of day� Where is it? There is an overall funding issue pertaining to Irish Rail and the railway system� The NTA has stated there are major issues and that, at a minimum and just to stand still in the next five years, Irish Rail will need €103 million over and above what it is receiving in order to ensure the tracks will be up to speed and existing deficits will be bridged. If we are serious about tack- ling climate change, public transport will be a key enabler in Ireland meeting its targets in that regard� Investment in public transport, including railways, will be essential if we are to meet the climate change targets we have set� That is the policy background to today’s industrial dispute� I argue that we are where we are because of a lack of proactivity on the part of the Minister and his lack of empathy towards the idea behind public transport� Given his public utterances during the years, he has a long track record of lacking basic sympathy for and empathy with Bus Éireann, Irish Rail and CIÉ overall� That has been his form� However, a country is now at stake� Instead of tweeting about 2 7 November 2017 the fortunes of Manchester United or contemplating publicly a fantasy visit to North Korea, he would be far better off focusing on issues within his realm of responsibility, including industrial relations in the transport sector� It would be far better if he were to concentrate on having these issues resolved and proactively deal with them well in advance in order that we do not arrive at a situation like today’s� When will the national rail review be published? Why did the Minister not convene the stakeholders’ forum? Does the Taoiseach accept that, in the context of an effective and viable rail network, a step change in investment will have to occur? Will we see more proactivity on the part of the Minister in terms of public transport policy? 07/11/2017B00200The Taoiseach: I thank the Deputy� As far as I know, the stakeholders’ forum has been convened, or at least efforts are being made to set a date for its first meeting, but I will double check with the Minister, Deputy Shane Ross� I do not have a date for publication of the rail review, but the Deputy will be aware of many public----- 07/11/2017B00300Deputy Micheál Martin: I am sorry----- 07/11/2017B00400The Taoiseach: I do not have a date for publication of the rail review, but the Deputy will be aware that there have been many other publications of rail reviews in the not too distant past� Today is the second day of the train strike� I understand the unions have now announced plans for three more strike days in the next few weeks� I agree with the Deputy that the strike is very much to be regretted� Some 150,000 passengers are being inconvenienced today - people who are trying to get to work, to go about their daily business and to get to hospital appointments� Of course, others are being very badly affected, too, in buses that are more crowded and because of much heavier traffic on the